Open Thread – Tues 4 April 2023


The Moreno Garden at Bordighera, Claude Monet, 1884

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Pogria
Pogria
April 4, 2023 12:03 am

Little Jack Horner
Sat in the corner,
Eating a Christmas pie;
He put in his thumb,
And pulled out a plum,
And said ‘What a good boy am I.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 4, 2023 12:06 am

Pot Shots Part Deux

Alamak!
Alamak!
April 4, 2023 12:10 am

Lock him up

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 4, 2023 1:53 am

Will this be the end of botty sex chatter?

Bruce in WA
April 4, 2023 2:53 am

Greetings from the Danube at Passat. Cesky Krumlov today. It snowed. I froze. That is all.

Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 4:18 am
Gabor
Gabor
April 4, 2023 4:25 am

Peter Broelman.

We had a lot of PM or opposition leader aspirants lately who want the position but are like a dog chasing a car, once they get it, they have no idea what to do with it.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 4, 2023 4:26 am

Thank you very much Tom.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 4, 2023 4:28 am

Why do Irish dogs all have flat or broken noses?

Cos’ they are always chasing parked cars.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 4, 2023 4:42 am

A computer would deserve to be called intelligent if it could deceive a human into believing that it was human.

– Alan Turing

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 4, 2023 5:25 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
April 4, 2023 5:26 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 4, 2023 6:04 am

Try again-where do they find these crumbs?

I reckon they harvest them from the bottom of my red wheelie bin.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 4, 2023 6:14 am

Can someone post a link to Shy Ted’s post on the departed Yunupingu from whatever blog it was on? Knuckles’ references to it are compelling but confusing…

Davey Boy
April 4, 2023 6:15 am

Little Jack Horner sitting on the corner
With no shoes and clothes
This ain’t funny, but he took his money
And sniffed it up his nose!

H/t Melle Mel

132andBush
132andBush
April 4, 2023 6:30 am

Top Ender.
Here

Pogria
Pogria
April 4, 2023 6:30 am

Top Ender,
go to the side bar on this page, right hand side and scroll to the end of the blog roll. You will find “Adam’s Cat” at the end of the list. Click on that link. Should take you there straightaway.
Don’t click munty’s link.

Pogria
Pogria
April 4, 2023 6:31 am

Davey Boy, that’s funny.

m0nty
m0nty
April 4, 2023 6:34 am

Trump en route to NY to get arrested.

caveman
caveman
April 4, 2023 6:51 am

Trump en route to NY to get arrested.

Watching the greatest TDS of all time.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 4, 2023 6:54 am

Watching the greatest TDS of all time.

Great theatre.

Please, please please let Biden hold a presser later today that starts with him saying:

‘We got him.’

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 6:57 am

An Easter show trial. Some things never change.

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 7:02 am

Ted’s comment mirrors my brother’s experience in the Kimberley. Unspeakable cruelty to the weakest, all condoned and celebrated by the Big Men whose taste for rivers of money (and other things) never abated. And through that income stream, we finance it, enable it, condone it.

Savages all. But I mustn’t say that because it was magical savagery with all mystical weight of a feather.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 4, 2023 7:02 am

But I thought they were saving the planet!

Non! Paris to Ban Rented Electric Scooters After City-Wide Referendum (3 Apr)

“Rental electric scooters are to go the way of the dodo in Paris after residents of the city voted to ban them in a referendum on Sunday. … According to a report by the Associated Press, around 89 per cent of voters who turned out to the referendum voted to ban the vehicle, despite attempts to stack the deck from rental agencies, who offered Parisians free scooter trips on the day of the ballot.

News of the rented electric scooter’s demise in Paris is likely to be greeted with much joy by many, not just within the borders of the French capital, but in other cities throughout the West.

Having exploded in popularity over the last number of years, the mode of transport has become extremely controversial in many cities and countries as accidents involving them have started to pile up, and discarded rentals litter pavements, disadvantaging pedestrians.

According to data published back in 2019, there were at least 1,545 injuries and deaths caused in the United States as a result of accidents involving e-scooters.”

Admittedly in the city of carbeques renting an e-scooter to get around would be much more convenient for some people than paying huge insurance fees for a car.

Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 7:18 am

“Can someone post a link to Shy Ted’s post on the departed Yunupingu from whatever blog it was on? Knuckles’ references to it are compelling but confusing…”

Shy Ted’s piece is superb.

Crossie
Crossie
April 4, 2023 7:21 am

calli says:
April 4, 2023 at 6:57 am
An Easter show trial. Some things never change.

I thought they might have waited until Thursday night.

Crossie
Crossie
April 4, 2023 7:26 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
April 4, 2023 at 7:18 am
“Can someone post a link to Shy Ted’s post on the departed Yunupingu from whatever blog it was on? Knuckles’ references to it are compelling but confusing…”

Shy Ted’s piece is superb.

It is glaringly obvious that the whole aboriginal culture thing is a huge tragedy for aboriginal people. The real culprits in all of this are the white do-gooders who refused to allow any oversight even when they knew that it all degenerated into a living hell. I think the Voice is an attempt to redirect attention and blame.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 4, 2023 7:27 am

Utes. Gigantic utes.

Not normal, purposeful utes. Not the Matchbox Holden maloo utes with hard covers over a tray you couldn’t fit a bag of tennis balls in. Not even 4WD utes with steel trays ideal for filling full of broken concrete. Massive, leviathan, purposeless expensive caricature utes (the NT News):

Backlash is mounting as the trend of monster US-style pick-up trucks continues to take over Australia, infuriating countless locals and causing havoc by taking up multiple parking spaces per vehicle.

In recent years, sales of American “pick-up trucks” have been booming Down Under, with figures proving the US vehicles – like the RAM 1500 and Chevrolet’s Silverado – are exploding in popularity.

The repeated diagonal parking of these things across four car parking spaces, combined with the knowledge these things will never actually be used as utes – observe their sparkling, pristine trays – has apparently enraged the average punter:

“Not a tradie vehicle. Probs an upper manager of some building group who has never touched a tool other than his own,” one frustrated Australian wrote.

“Not even an upper manager. Can be some eshay kid of cashed-up bogans,” another responded.

“Guy near me has one, I can sure tell you he’s not a tradie. These things seem to be the domain of construction site managers and insecure white collar workers,” another one wrote, with another adding: “And Boomers towing a 200k caravan.”

“I’ll be honest, 99 per cent of tradies I work with f***ing hate these things. It’s usually some 60-year-old grey nomad that thinks his 900kg Jayco popup needs a vehicle that barely fits in an Australian lane to pull it,” another said.

And if this wasn’t good enough:

The vehicles have become so ubiquitous they’ve even been given an Aussie nickname – the “emotional support vehicle”, or ESV

Emotional Support Vehicle. Oh my lordy, that’s good.

2dogs
2dogs
April 4, 2023 7:30 am

I thought they might have waited until Thursday night.

And have Adam Kinzinger betraying him with a kiss.

Major Elvis Newton
Major Elvis Newton
April 4, 2023 7:32 am

The cloying hagiographies and eulogising over Yunupingu is truly vomitous.

Anyone would think the rainbow serpent itself has been slain.

shatterzzz
April 4, 2023 7:32 am

Gotta luv the tear-jerkers from “our” ABC ..
I’m guessin’ they think there are hoping for folk who care! .. LOL!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-04/international-students-resort-to-living-in-tents/102179212

Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 7:33 am

God bless President Donald Trump.

132andBush
132andBush
April 4, 2023 7:35 am

Emotional Support Vehicle. Oh my lordy, that’s good.

Haha, yes!

And a widely known fact is they don’t last half as long as a Landcruiser.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 4, 2023 7:37 am

ShyTed’s piece should be put up with Cassie’s vivisection of the SFL as examples of excellence in Journalism Schools. Of course I’m only dreaming. Passing the mutley school of jism requires a nodding head. Nothing more.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 4, 2023 7:38 am

An Easter show trial. Some things never change.

Superb

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 4, 2023 7:41 am

ShyTed’s piece should be put up with Cassie’s vivisection of the SFL as examples of excellence in Journalism Schools.

Could someone pleeeeease put these two pieces up so I can read and re-read them respectively. Thank you in anticipation.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 4, 2023 7:41 am

Landcruiser’s don’t have good clutches. When have you ever seen an Emotional Support Vehicle with a stuffed clutch. A stuffed crutch, yes but not the other.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 4, 2023 7:45 am

Tinta I can’t link off my phone, but with Cassie’s pieces, its every time she’s written something not just once.

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 7:45 am

I thought images and eulogies of the Aboriginal dead were culturally forbidden.

Has something changed?

shatterzzz
April 4, 2023 7:46 am

The cloying hagiographies and eulogising over Yunupingu is truly vomitous.

prepare for a lot of this waffle as the VOICE “debate” hots up .. they (media & pollies) know they need a BIG sympathy vote to get it across the line ..!
and what better example than lotza tears and wailing for a “proud” warrior of his people ……!

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
April 4, 2023 7:46 am

DeSantis has just signed a bill for Florida which allows permitless concealed hand gun carry but not open hand gun carry. I can see some practicality problems. Florida can get quite warm, going outside in the middle of summer with a concealed hand gun would be quite uncomfortable after a few minutes.

Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 7:46 am

Just turned on Sky News to watch Trump arriving in NYC. They have Bill Shorten on. I’ve turned down the volume but I find it amusing that Shorten is giving his take on Trump. The allegation against Bill Shorten is far worse than anything Trump has been accused of.

Which begs the question, when will Bill Shorten be charged? When will Bill Shorten be arraigned?

Oh don’t be silly, such things only happen to right of centre politicians.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 4, 2023 7:48 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 4, 2023 7:48 am

Thank you 123andBush — missed it on first pass

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 7:49 am

Please, please please let Biden hold a presser later today that starts with him saying:

There’s an interesting story behind this nickel. Back in the day we’d call them bees. Give me five bees for a quarter we’d say.

shatterzzz
April 4, 2023 7:51 am

I thought images and eulogies of the Aboriginal dead were culturally forbidden.

Bruce has authorized an exemption whenever it involves positive publicity for the VOICE ….!

Crossie
Crossie
April 4, 2023 7:51 am

The utes and American pickup trucks is a reaction to the disappearance of the muscle cars and the prestige cars not being different from the run of the mill ones. In most cases you have to look at the badge to see that the owner paid a quarter of a house for it.

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 7:52 am

I’m still trying to work out what crime Trump committed over Daniels.

Firstly, I’ll assume he did have an affair with her. He says not, but let’s say he did for argument’s sake.

She blackmails him, seeking hush money.
His lawyer at the time pays her, and secures a confidentiality agreement.
She breaks this agreement by disclosing both affair and payment.

The End.

I thought blackmail was a crime, not the payment of blackmail. I thought breaking a legally binding agreement was also an offence.

What am I missing here?

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 7:52 am

I have not been paying attention.

I know “you can indict a ham sandwich” but how did they turn one “crime” into 34 “crimes”?

Also, what is the second indictment process about?

What is the credulity of a DA prosecuting a Federal (?) business record violation?

Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 7:53 am

Oh please, Alvin Bragg — the perfectly named low IQ George Soros chattel — please charge Donald Trump on Good Friday.

As Calli says, the persecution of the innocent by the powerful hasn’t changed in 2000 years.

Entropy
Entropy
April 4, 2023 7:54 am

shatterzzz says:
April 4, 2023 at 7:32 am
Gotta luv the tear-jerkers from “our” ABC ..
I’m guessin’ they think there are hoping for folk who care! .. LOL!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-04/international-students-resort-to-living-in-tents/102179212

Next to my workplace we have a student accommodation tower. For all of 2019 there were a few tents on unit balconys. There was a unit about seven floors up that not only had a tent, but a fridge and a low table with a kettle. There were two guys in the tent, seemingly living on instant noodles.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 4, 2023 7:54 am

GreyRanga says:
April 4, 2023 at 7:41 am

Landcruiser’s don’t have good clutches. When have you ever seen an Emotional Support Vehicle with a stuffed clutch. A stuffed crutch, yes but not the other.

Landcruiser 1994 Series 80 GXL 4.5l EFI – 116,00 Kms so far on original clutch – burns a little when slipping – will go with Heavy Duty Outback Extreme or Exedy Safari Tuff Clutch when replacing

Crossie
Crossie
April 4, 2023 7:55 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
April 4, 2023 at 7:46 am
Just turned on Sky News to watch Trump arriving in NYC. They have Bill Shorten on.

Is the producer on that show tone deaf or indulging in a bit of veiled sarcasm?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
April 4, 2023 7:56 am

Just got back from a few days of traipsing from one side of Perth to the other.
Good luck forcing Perth residents into 15 minute cities!

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 7:56 am

She blackmails him, seeking hush money.
His lawyer at the time pays her, and secures a confidentiality agreement.
She breaks this agreement by disclosing both affair and payment.

Cohen paid her, without Trump’s knowledge or permission. This is what Cohen said recently, keep in mind he confessed to a crime and Trump and he are not allies anymore.

Cohen’s fees allegedly were for the “hush” money.

You can’t even pay people to go away now. Not even whores or lawyers.

cohenite says Cohen paid her to get rid of her to stop her blackmailing dual clients of herself and Trump’s hotels and make her leave and not come back to the premises.

So yes, either way she’s a blackmailer and should go to gaol.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 4, 2023 7:57 am

Yes God bless President Trump. He is still making the evil reveal themselves.

Crossie
Crossie
April 4, 2023 7:58 am

calli says:
April 4, 2023 at 7:45 am
I thought images and eulogies of the Aboriginal dead were culturally forbidden.

Has something changed?

This has as much validity as the welcome to country performances and can be ignored after issuing the blanket warning.

JC
JC
April 4, 2023 7:58 am

Dot

All that is true but here’s the problem if you’re Trump.

1. Trying gambling your freedom in front of a NYC judge and jury

2. For other venues, try gambling your freedom in an large US inner city urban court

3. Then there’s DC.

Good luck.

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 8:00 am

Thanks Crossie. So it’s selective bullsh*t.

Thought as much.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 8:01 am

We had a lot of PM or opposition leader aspirants lately who want the position but are like a dog chasing a car, once they get it, they have no idea what to do with it

Unfortunately the PM job is like a lot of CEO positions, you never know how people will go until they’re are in the job. Thanks to KRuddy itis now virtually impossible to remove either a PM of LOTO between elections. And yes, this is a long running series of duds.

JC
JC
April 4, 2023 8:02 am

Apparently there was a skit with Trump asking not to be read his Miranda rights because he said, he didn’t want to end up with the ugly one in Sex And The City.

JC
JC
April 4, 2023 8:05 am

The left is now using and abusing the legal system and it’s coming here.

Don’t forget , they went close in trying to nail Morrison over the secret ministry thing but held back.

I reckon they’re going to try and nail Latham at some stage.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 8:05 am

calli at 6:57

An Easter show trial. Some things never change.

He will risen.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 4, 2023 8:07 am

I believe the charges are (or at least, as previously touted, were) that Trump authorised the hush-money be paid from campaign funds and, since there is a donation matching system in place in Presidential campaigns a portion of the money given to Stormy will have been public funds. Presumably it makes no difference whether there is some hypothecated campaign account which itself receives no public funds because if it was part of his private campaign money used for non-campaign purposes then he should have received less public money so they can pass it off as defrauding the public.

It is funny that the most sordid and dishonest part of the whole affair is not that Trump may have had a role in the hay with a porn star, but the way a NY DA is trying to go after him.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 4, 2023 8:09 am

Great explanation of Albanese’s Vanity Voice
Monday, 03 April 2023

Well said Colin Boyce.

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/04/great-explanation-of-albaneses-vanity-voice.html

caveman
caveman
April 4, 2023 8:10 am

Utes. Gigantic utes.

The utes and American pickup trucks is a reaction to the disappearance of the muscle cars and the prestige cars not being different from the run of the mill ones.

There’s no replacement for displacement.

Entropy
Entropy
April 4, 2023 8:10 am

Thing about those ESVs (love it) and boomer caravan owners is they aren’t towing a 900kg Jayco camper. That kind of thing is restricted to low income families going to Agnes Water for a couple of weeks’ holiday. Boomers are towing off road three tonne plus monsters with an ensuite larger than our downstairs bathroom.
For the classic grey nomad, the reality is the choice of vehicle to pull them is rather limited, a LandCruiser, Patrol, or a yank Ute. Some of the bigger tradie utes can pull them of course, but not as well as those yank tanks.
and then there are the fortunately rare fifth wheelers. For people or horses.

Now, one could rail on about how Australian built caravans are way overbuilt, they don’t really need a six inch chassis and they are much heavier than they need to be, and that for most boomers the most off road they might ever get is the burke developmental road, but that is the way it is. The market speaks.

And besides, the people that get most annoyed about ESVs are precisely the people I get enormous pleasure out of seeing them annoyed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 8:10 am

Knuckle Dragger at 7:27 – bit of an issue on Landcruiser sized tracks. I used to have the opposite issue trying to get the Suzuki down for a surf.

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 8:12 am

Thanks, Mother Lode. That clears it up.

Reminds me of The Untouchables and Capone.

All they have to do is prove he authorised it. Do they have documents? Audio? Anything concrete? Or is it just a house of cards?

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
April 4, 2023 8:15 am

The health experts lied to us. The government lied to us. The media lied to us. The fact-checkers lied to us. The tech tyrants lied to us.

There has never been a greater web of deception attached to public policy in the history of the world and yet, those guilty are not being held to account.

The Australian’s Adam Creighton was one of those who pushed the boundaries of acceptable reporting during the pandemic. I know first hand the pressure media figures were under not to buck the narrative. He acknowledged that pressure in a recent column.

Here’s part of what he wrote in the Australian yesterday.

“Throughout the pandemic criticisms of masks or lockdowns was permissible, if frowned upon, but the vaccines attained an almost exalted status that ensured any critics – no matter the quality of their evidence – were unfairly disparaged as ‘anti-vaxxers’, ‘cookers’ or simply ignored.”

Creighton, like a couple of others, found a way to convey their message without falling foul of the censors.

I can tell you from personal experience it was a tight rope to walk.

However, things are changing. As Creighton notes:

“The mountain of bias and ignorance that’s weighed on reporting on Covid-10 vaccines is starting to crumble.”

As well it should but who will be held responsible?

Our mainstream media were coerced into silence by financial inducements and threats of sanction by government.

With few exceptions, our ‘experts’ proved to be nothing more than highly paid puppets and our politicians demonstrated that most are indeed ‘lobotomised zombies’ who merely follow the narrative.

It reminds me of an old Scottish proverb that it’s only dead fish that go with the flow. The rest of us will choose to keep swimming upstream.

Until tomorrow.

Cory

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 4, 2023 8:16 am

callisays:
April 4, 2023 at 8:12 am
Thanks, Mother Lode. That clears it up.

Reminds me of The Untouchables and Capone.

All they have to do is prove he authorised it. Do they have documents? Audio? Anything concrete? Or is it just a house of cards?

House of cards. All they have is the word of a former Trump lawyer, who has already been jailed for some other chicanery.

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 8:18 am

Don’t forget , they went close in trying to nail Morrison over the secret ministry thing but held back.

How? It’s perfectly legal.

Don’t like it? You need to change the constitution.

Whitlam and Barnard held 27 Ministries between them; the national Cabinet isn’t a constitutional organ either and both major parties took part in that sham.

Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 8:18 am

Superb piece by Shy Ted (h/t Top Ender) marking the death of Galarrwuy Yunupingu — the Baron of Bauxite as he was known because he was the Big Man of the Arnhem Land Yolngu mob, who were given ownership of the Gove bauxite mine which bought hundreds of Toyota Land Cruisers for the Big Men.

As Ted says, the abolition of the missions and the imposition of land rights has destroyed the relative happiness the Arnhem Land blackfellas once had and replaced it with the misery of drug abuse, domestic violence and government dependence.

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 8:19 am

Then it dawned on me, if you abuse the legal process, the charges can of course be absolute trash.

Entropy
Entropy
April 4, 2023 8:23 am

One of the mysteries of life is that our car parks are so narrow and short that an ESV needs more than one to park.
Hard enough in a kingswood.

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 8:23 am

Interesting chap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Harper

Harper had a long-held theory that in order to play really well, sex was essential before a match.

“Sir, there are no women around!”

*Corporal, we are going to win this chukka god damn it!*

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 4, 2023 8:25 am

I thought images and eulogies of the Aboriginal dead were culturally forbidden.

Not among all the tribes.

rosie
rosie
April 4, 2023 8:27 am

I wonder if the only relative happiness for Aboriginal women and children was in the disciplined atmosphere of mission life.
I can’t see how any other variations have been happy.
Doled out flour and sugar and treated like serfs by station managers and still under the control of big men, no.
The only way is to join the rest of us properly, in modernity, and by that not the horrid world people like Monty pretend is the best.
Private ownership of propert, working, going to school, that kind of thing.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 4, 2023 8:28 am
Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 8:29 am

A morning musing…..

I watched Sky last night (though not Blot, he’s forever blotted from my Sky viewing, a shameless, mumbling prig) and I think it was Kenny, who is sensible on most things apart the Voice, and he mentioned how it took Robert Menzies, back in the early 1940s, to gather together disparate conservative and right of centre voices in a town in northern Victoria, and it was at this gathering/assembly/conclave/group where people (and yes, it was mainly men but there were women there too) thrashed out ideas and policies out and what the result? The Liberal Party of Australia was born. In other words, voices which had previously been fractured came together to discuss, debate, dissent and out of this a new right of centre party was born.

I believe it’s time for another such assembly/conclave/gathering, because once again the right of centre vote in this country is fractured. I don’t blame those who’ve walked away from the Liberal Party, I plead guilty your honour! The Liberal Party hasn’t just steered itself away from Menzian Liberal values, it’s trashed them, be it on religious freedom, free speech, individual liberty, fiscal responsibility, a party that wants to represent lifters, not leaners, a party that openly encourages small and medium sized businesses, a party that seeks to preserve the best of Western civilization, a party for middle and working Australia. When I think of the Liberal Party, in office from 2013 to 2022, I get depressed, and please note that I don’t dispense forgiveness on Tony Abbott for any of this current malaise. He must also shoulder a lot of blame for this current situation. However, onwards and upwards, we need a gathering where One Nation, the Lib Dems, the relics of Palmer’s UAP and so on are willing to sit down with Liberals and talk about ideas and perhaps, if their egos will allow them, to put aside differences. And one of the policies should also be, if you put your hand up to run for public office, you take off the kid gloves and you put on the boxing gloves, otherwise don’t bother.

I know, I know, it’s a tall order but we need to think of this country, of our children and grandchildren. Otherwise, the future will rest in the hands of creeps like our resident pervert apologist, who seems unable to tell the difference between an anus and a vagina and who defecates here daily, no wonder he’s covered in “fecal matter”.

I have a list of those who would not be invited to any such gathering, under any circumstance…..

Matt Kean
Michael Photios
Malcolm Turdbull
Scumbag Morrison
Dave Sharma
Trent Zimmerman
Bridget Archer
Tim Wilson
Jason Falinsky
Katie Allen

I’d invite Josh, because I think his heart is in the right place and I allow such things as teshuvah (forgiveness) however the rest of them, nyet, nup, nope and no, I think they’re all sinister pernicious individuals who should go join the Greens, because they are Greens, or in the case of Scumbag, he should just disappear from polite society.

As I said on Sunday night, on Sunday morning I walked past Dave Sharma. He said hello. I didn’t return any greeting. Normally I’m always up for a conversation but coming on the heels of Aston, I just couldn’t be bothered. It’s the likes of Sharma who’ve directly contributed to the current Liberal Party quagmire. As Kenny said last week, very brutally and very truthfully, about Dave Sharma, he didn’t just lose one election, he lost two elections.

Not a rant today, just a morning musing.

132andBush
132andBush
April 4, 2023 8:31 am

If Trump goes to goal Hillary should go to the chair.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 4, 2023 8:33 am

The cloying hagiographies and eulogising over Yunupingu is truly vomitous.

Anyone would think the rainbow serpent itself has been slain.

Marcia Langton’s and Pat Dodson’s articles in today’s Oz are prime examples.

Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 8:35 am

“The left is now using and abusing the legal system and it’s coming here.

Don’t forget , they went close in trying to nail Morrison over the secret ministry thing but held back.

I reckon they’re going to try and nail Latham at some stage.”

Yes JC, however they’re already using and abusing the legal system, just ask Cardinal George Pell and Bruce Lehmannn. Oh wait, we can’t ask Cardinal Pell because he’s dead. Speaking of that saintly man, it’s coming up to three years since he was released from prison, remember, remember…….7-0. My God, what a marvellous day that was, it still brings tears to my eyes.

And yes, they will go after Latham, although he knows how to kick a bucket or two and I reckon he will.

132andBush
132andBush
April 4, 2023 8:35 am

*gaol

rosie
rosie
April 4, 2023 8:40 am

Wasn’t this a family that lived the life, awash with new cars, big homes, helicopters while most others in the region live in poverty and no-one is allowed there without permission so very few know the truth?

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 4, 2023 8:44 am

I thought images and eulogies of the Aboriginal dead were culturally forbidden.

Which tribe?
There is no Pan Aboriginality, each of the 600 Tribes had their own Customs.
Obviously, it’s an invented Taboo, which comes in handy whenever there’s a Death in Custody, the MSM can dehumanise the victim by pretending they can’t publish his name.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 8:44 am

The cloying hagiographies and eulogising over Yunupingu is truly vomitous.

The noblest of savages.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 8:46 am

Something for our resident Black Shirt apologist and liar to discuss with his wife.
It’s not really violence, is it?

rosie
rosie
April 4, 2023 8:47 am
WolfmanOz
WolfmanOz
April 4, 2023 8:48 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
April 4, 2023 at 8:29 am

Excellent musings Cassie !

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 4, 2023 8:48 am

What am I missing here?

The fact that the Left now control all the levers of power in the US?

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 8:48 am

Private ownership of propert, working, going to school, that kind of thing.

Like my friends do here. Even ones who have suffered institutional abuse. They’ve just got on with it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 4, 2023 8:49 am

Wasn’t this a family that lived the life, awash with new cars, big homes, helicopters

I do remember someone being unkind enough to run images of the helicopters, yes.

rosie
rosie
April 4, 2023 8:49 am
Ed Case
Ed Case
April 4, 2023 8:50 am

Trump paid Daniels off with Campaign Funds, that’s his problem.

Sure, all the other candidates probably misused Campaign Funds by paying hookers too, but that doesn’t exonerate Trump.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 4, 2023 8:52 am

Thanks for the link – from somewhere on the east coast of NZ.

(It isn’t nearly so woke here as I thought – and locals are predicting Labor gets the boot in the election)

sfw
sfw
April 4, 2023 8:52 am

Cassie, agree with you. I’m amazed that the Libs can’t see that chasing leftie votes will never work for them, almost the entire party is now infested with professional pollies and other lefties. Last federal election the right of centre parties, I’m including the LDP even though it claims to be a libertarian party, got around 16% first preference votes together. Most of the 16% are voters who have given up on the Libs, that’s a great base to build on if you could the minors to agree to work together by building policy and philosophy that they could support. The big problem is that these parties are dominated by people who hate each other more than they hate the left, they want the power for themselves and will (and have) undermine each other to get it. It will take a very talented person(s) to make that happen.

Any suggestions for people places etc?

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 8:53 am

rosie says:
April 4, 2023 at 8:47 am
and liver cancer

Why doesn’t the author simply link substance abuse to climate change and be done with it?

These studies are worthless unless they point to the real cause. Then, they wouldn’t get funding because all roads must lead to climate change.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 4, 2023 8:54 am

Private ownership of propert, working, going to school, that kind of thing,
being a Wage Slave, in debt to the Banks, spend 20 years at School in a forlorn hope that you might get a job out of it.

Yeah, perhaps Aborigines aren’t dumb after all?

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 8:58 am

Last federal election the right of centre parties, I’m including the LDP even though it claims to be a libertarian party, got around 16% first preference votes together. Most of the 16% are voters who have given up on the Libs, that’s a great base to build on if you could the minors to agree to work together by building policy and philosophy that they could support.

It was the same in NSW for the Upper House last weekend prior. A consistent 16%, then you have to ask how many bitter clingers still vote LNP or don’t really know there are alternatives.

Pogria
Pogria
April 4, 2023 9:02 am

The trickle is hopefully turning into a flood.
I believe an Open Category is an excellent idea. It wouldn’t last long as blokes wouldn’t be happy competing against blokes again. Lol.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 9:08 am

As Ted says, the abolition of the missions and the imposition of land rights has destroyed the relative happiness the Arnhem Land blackfellas once had and replaced it with the misery of drug abuse, domestic violence and government dependence.

Even more telling, Shy Ted has spent a lifetime as a nurse in remote areas and he is very familiar with the physical breakdown of the whole population. Read the link to hear him speak of foetal abnormalities and childhood failures to thrive due to disease infections, alcohol and drug abuse, petrol sniffing and sheer neglect by adults made mentally incompetent.

The contrast to the joyous picture I saw in the Durak homestead in the Kimberley, painted by Elizabeth Durak, a Matisse-like painting of aboriginal stockmen relishing their independent lives, is so very stark. As Rosie says, the missions brought calm and order to aboriginal lives in transition from nomadic foraging. Visiting some in north western Australia was a very instructive experience for me, where even now there is some semblance of order and certainly a felt and expressed nostalgia for the mission oversight that these communities have now lost as a ‘welfare’ and drug culture moves in.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 4, 2023 9:09 am

Cassie,

Re the Liberal Party, the problem you have is the young are brainwashed and are in lockstep with their friends

During usual evening session of Grandkids coming in to say Good Night, my younger daughter & son-in-law had also come in – mentioned my wife had made an online GP appointment and had been asked what gender – Female but then a second question Gender at Birth – said how stupid it was – was pounced upon by Daughter saying people can change their minds, I then said was sick & tired of being welcomed to my own country and given $30 Billion per Annum spent on Indigenous in Australia, given violence in Darwin, Alice Springs, Townsville, Katerine etc what difference would the Voice make, other than creating Apartheid In Australia – told to change subject

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 9:10 am

The big problem is that these parties are dominated by people who hate each other more than they hate the left, they want the power for themselves and will (and have) undermine each other to get it. It will take a very talented person(s) to make that happen.

LOL

Not as much as the Liberals hate us though.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 9:10 am

In that of physical injuries Shy Ted alludes to, we need to add incest, cousin marriage and child rape.

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 9:14 am

Missions still exist in the Kimberley. Even thirty years ago they were under tremendous pressure to hand over children to abusive family. The little ones would be dropped off while mum, dad or others went on a bender, the child treated for all sorts of unspeakable ailments.

Then the rocks, broken windows, threats to return the frightened child to “country” – how hard it is to do this, but the law was on the side of the abusers. I don’t know how much further it has deteriorated by now.

rosie
rosie
April 4, 2023 9:17 am

That Q&A thread is getting very little love from feminists or, apparently, gay men.
Why hasn’t Monty joined the fray?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 9:18 am

was pounced upon by Daughter saying people can change their minds

Old Ozzie – The retaliation to that must always be that people can change their minds but they can never change their bodies, because there are only TWO sexes. Then you say ‘end of subject’. Two can play at that dismissal game your daughter played re The Voice.

Don’t forget that your grandchildren are listening and they need to hear some sense on both topics.
Stick to your guns.

rosie
rosie
April 4, 2023 9:19 am

Shy Ted mentioned ‘inbreeding’.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 4, 2023 9:19 am

I’m still trying to work out what crime Trump committed over Daniels.
He paid her off with Campaign Funds.
That’s a Felony.
Convicted Felons can’t run for president.

Firstly, I’ll assume he did have an affair with her. He says not, but let’s say he did for argument’s sake.

She blackmails him, seeking hush money.

Trump ran in 2016 as the guy who had never been unfaithful to his wife [except for Maria Marples], never had girlfriends, never taken Cocaine or even drank a beer, Stormy Daniels said
Gimme a break
so Trump’s gofers bribed her to shut up.
His lawyer at the time pays her, and secures a confidentiality agreement.
She breaks this agreement by disclosing both affair and payment.

It was a Bribe.
Not a lawyer, but I’m finding it hard to believe any Court would uphold
the Legality of a Bribe.

The End.
It is for the Trumpster.

I thought blackmail was a crime, not the payment of blackmail. I thought breaking a legally binding agreement was also an offence.

Stop thinking.
You’ll only give yourself and another headache.

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 9:20 am

Helen, now retired from the property, used to give us some contemporary stories about the life of rural aborigines. I would love to hear her insights now, but she is on her WEB. Perhaps she’ll return when debate about the voice hots up. That’s if there is any debate. Many are treating it as a fait accompli.

Figures
Figures
April 4, 2023 9:21 am

And one of the policies should also be, if you put your hand up to run for public office, you take off the kid gloves and you put on the boxing gloves, otherwise don’t bother.

Yes but there’s two parts to that. Anybody on our side who fights will be subject to vicious attacks from those on the side of the narrative.

That means that all right wing people need to resolve to have each other’s backs *at all times*. Basically, be the exact opposite of ScoMo.

Criticising a right wing leader for being too moderate is ok (if done in the right spirit) but never ever criticise any right wing leader for being too extreme.

Never criticise their behaviour. You don’t necessarily have to endorse their behaviour but. at worst, you should do what the left does – obfuscate and play games and whatboutism.

Jesse Kelly is the bestest in the world at understanding that the left’s strategy is what we must employ. The right have this bizarre idea that our principles should apply to people who have no intention of reciprocating.

When you realise that all right wing thought is based on the golden rule (ie reciprocation) then applying our principles to leftists is abject lunacy.

Allowing leftists the right to free speech or owning property is as stupid, immoral and suicidal as asking a bear to sign a non-aggression contract.

P
P
April 4, 2023 9:23 am

Google Blocks RSBN With 7-Day YouTube Ban on Eve of Trump Indictment
April 3, 2023 | Sundance
The need for control is a reaction to fear.

On the eve of the indictment of President Donald J Trump, Google, the parent company of YouTube, suspends Right Side Broadcasting Network from its broadcast platform.

Let there be NO DOUBT, the coordinated Big Tech effort to control U.S. politics continues….

Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 9:25 am

Re the Liberal Party, the problem you have is the young are brainwashed and are in lockstep with their friends”

True OO but we have to say out loud what we think and we must stop being shy about it.

My brother’s eldest is here from the UK. As I mentioned on Saturday night here, we all had lunch at my mother’s place on Saturday. Whilst he’s quite an opinionated young men, he sat and listened to his “far-right” aunties and “far-right elderly don’t mess with me” grandmother as we all held forth on many issues from climate change to transgenderism. Whilst at times I noticed him smiling, he did listen. We need to speak up and assert our opinions, the problem with us on the right is that we’ve been far too circumspect for far too long so that now we’ve gotten to the stage where you hear guff such as “transwomen are women”. Hear this, transwomen are NOT women.

rosie
rosie
April 4, 2023 9:25 am

Old Ozzie
Read the comments on the q&a thread.
Will give you some ammunition.
Adults can ‘change their mind’.
Did someone mention here it used to be mainly middle-aged men*?
That would be my personal observation over the last couple of decades.
Now it’s like hula hoops.
They can do what they like but when their wants collide with the rights of women and girls to have privacy in female only toilets, sporting competitions etc, I’m on the always was always will be female body.
Trans women as someone at qanda said wear being a woman like a dress.
*yes you Bruce Jenner

Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 9:29 am

The big problem is that these parties are dominated by people who hate each other more than they hate the left, they want the power for themselves and will (and have) undermine each other to get it. It will take a very talented person(s) to make that happen.”

And therein lies the rub.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 4, 2023 9:29 am

Aborigines are just a handy Victim Group to emotionally blackmail Whites with.
If Aborigines didn’t exist, it would be Torres Strait Islanders.

If they didn’t exist, it would be South Sea Islanders recruited for the Canefields.

If they didn’t exist, it would be the descendants of Convicts transported from England.

If they didn’t exist, it would be Convicts transported from Ireland.
Which would make some sense, if only to raise awareness that early Australia was built using White Slave labourers.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 9:33 am

Here’s another type of ‘non-violence’ to add to the injuries inflicted on women in the NZ rally.
Our resident Black Shirt should really discuss this with his wife, as well as historic pictures.
As Cassie says, does his wife know what he really gets up to commenting here?

Roger
Roger
April 4, 2023 9:35 am

Yunupingu and the other big men have been catastrophically bad for their people, amassing great wealth and failing to deliver any tangible outcome.

Time for some truth telling.

Frank
Frank
April 4, 2023 9:36 am

I thought images and eulogies of the Aboriginal dead were culturally forbidden.

Images of deceased people would only be an issue from the time of the invention of the camera.

bons
bons
April 4, 2023 9:38 am

The longed for implosion of the Liberals has brought forth those principally responsible to gloat and chant over the ashes.
The Turd of course, but even the reptile himself, Photios, emerged from his lair.
He was interviewed on Sky. The smug and arrogance was startling even for him.
Most shocking was the manner in which Sky treated him with respect, never once calling him out for his corruption.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 4, 2023 9:42 am

There’s no replacement for displacement.

There is also no substitute for cubic inches.

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 4, 2023 9:47 am

Milton says:
April 4, 2023 at 5:26 am

It used to be that politicians were caught out not knowing what the interest rate was; what the price of a loaf of bread was, a carton of milk…pilloried they were for that lack of knowledge.

Now, in “not knowing/understanding” what a woman is, everyone’s fine with fine.

How did we end up here?

bons
bons
April 4, 2023 9:48 am

I just saw another reference to ‘truth telling’.
No term better defines the corruption of the whole aboriginal industry mythology.
‘Telling’! Not seeking, not studying, not reviewing, not discussing – nope, you will be told what is truth.
A caravan on an isolated beach with no communications is looking increasingly compelling. Perhaps I could identify as something and have convoys of public servants arriving to give me stuff.

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 9:51 am

The DC Grand Jury hearing relates to the Mar A Lago “classified documents”.

What a joke.

Documents included party plans etc for WH functions.

Roger
Roger
April 4, 2023 9:53 am

It used to be that politicians were caught out not knowing what the interest rate was; what the price of a loaf of bread was, a carton of milk…pilloried they were for that lack of knowledge. Now, in “not knowing/understanding” what a woman is, everyone’s fine

Nicola Sturgeon is not fine.

And being asked that question is Keir Starmer’s recurring nightmare.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 9:53 am

Now it’s like hula hoops.
They can do what they like

Well, no, they can’t. They can’t proselytise their weird cult to children in schools, nor of toddlers and pre-schoolers in public libraries. They can’t run ‘gender’ clinics full of psychologists and doctors and even surgeons who profit from endorsing this cult and its beliefs and practices. But they do, so what can be our response?

Hairy, no stranger to senior management, puts it to me straight. Nominate the decision-makers. Who authorises these activities? Seek out the people who sign on the dotted line to agree to them? Name and shame them and bring them fully to account. Name the hospital administrators and medical bodies who agree to their hospitals being used to mutilate children. Name the editors-in-chief who approve the content of television shows praising these cults and their activities. Name the politicians who agree to funding organisations that carry forth this insane messaging to children. Name the education bureaucrats and school principals who endorse it and practice it.

This is not trans phobia. People who are ‘trans’ have always existed, and have generally been accepted for the rare minority that they are. What we are seeing today is proselytising, this is an extreme cult, this is extending the ‘trans’ population to a range of people not historically included as transgender people, including autogynophiliacs and other cross dressing males especially. This cult includes any sort of cross gender behaviour being played out at any time and it seeks to normalise this in all social recording documentation. It leads to the heights of ridicule when it asks pregnant women in maternity wards whether they are male, female or other. It is dangerous to young people. It compares well only with anorexia and other mental illnesses and disproportionately attracts autistic and socially-struggling adolescents.

Time to name and shame.

Roger
Roger
April 4, 2023 9:55 am

They’re back…

Canadian authorities are treating a knife attack on a Vancouver bus yesterday as an ISIS inspired act of terror.

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 4, 2023 10:00 am

Dot @ 8:18am on the multiple ministries.

Whitlam & Barnard we’re sworn in openly.

Morrison, rather than openly acknowledging to the people that there was a huge problem that the powers of *s475 of the Biosecurity Act conferred on the Health Minister – the one multiple ministry that was reasonable under the circumstances – he chose to keep it under wraps.

Then, when he realised that this was a useful strategy for a f*cking power mad arseh*le, he continued to gather up more and more ornaments of control by way of multiple ministries.

Do not say that he didn’t use that power; the fact is, he could have. He’d already sidelined parliament. And he the National Cabinet to negotiate ways and means with.

Not once did he say afterwards, when it was over that, because of the unlimited power of s475, amendments would be required.

As to the (possible) reason why the Liars have opted not to do much about it, that would be because to do so would force the govt to announce a RC.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 10:02 am

Nicola Sturgeon is not fine.
And being asked that question is Keir Starmer’s recurring nightmare.

When a tranny asks you, “Does my bum look big in this?”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 10:04 am

Let’s start with documentation. All forms requiring gender information, and that is most, because sex is a defining category of many things both social and medical, should simply offer male, female or no reply. That would cover all bases for general forms. For passports and birth certificates, birth sex should always be used. Dressing up is not a sex. Nor are feelz. Nor is sexual surgery.

We need to return our society to some sanity on these issues.

It may take some years, but it will happen.
This is a contagion of the West, not elsewhere in the world.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 4, 2023 10:06 am

Their ABCcess had a yank lawyer on to crow about the Trump charges.
its amazing how vocal they get once they are away from America about their real intentions.

In effect he was crowing over
a: being able to slap a gag order on trump to make commenting on the charges a offence.
b: The charges being able to be strung along one after another all the way through any election period.
c: The ability to keep the details of the charges at least partially confidential – therefore being able to have a “big” charge with SFA to back it up.

this will only stop when it goes the other way- Dem pollies being charged for ‘ham sandwiches” in red states.

Smacking someone else in the nuts is fun- until they do it back with a ball pien hammer.

Rabz
April 4, 2023 10:07 am

Shorter Eddles at 9:19 am:

“Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”

Shoot her before him, but make sure he sees it

Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 10:08 am

“How did we end up here?”

By being too compassionate
By being too kind
By being too polite
By turning the other cheek too often
By keeping too quiet
By being too scared to speak up.
By apologising all the f*cking time

Now, having done all of the above, and seen how it’s failed, spectacularly and catastrophically I might add, hands up those who think it’s high time we now…

Stop being compassionate
Stop being kind
Stop being polite
Stop turning the other cheek
Stop being quiet
Stop being too scared to speak up
STOP APOLOGISING

My hand are up.

132andBush
132andBush
April 4, 2023 10:10 am

We need to return our society to some sanity on these issues.

According to the “camp guard” this is nothing but hate.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 4, 2023 10:10 am

Dotsays:

April 4, 2023 at 8:18 am

Don’t forget , they went close in trying to nail Morrison over the secret ministry thing but held back.

How? It’s perfectly legal

Legal.
But politically and tactically stupid.
Politically it was always going to have a whiff of Napoleonic Complex about it.
Tactically it was a failure because it created a single point of failure in the back up mechanism (ScoMo) and the Ministers ScoMo was backing up for didn’t know he had done it. The risk was one of them getting crook and both making contradictory ministerial decisions simultaneously.
If he wanted back up the more robust way would be to create a daisy chain of back-ups around the cabinet table which didn’t rely solely on one person.
Of course, that doesn’t create fodder for the memoirs.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 4, 2023 10:13 am

ABCcess’ latest fainting couch issue of the day..

Democratic takeover of councils by non greenies…

Anti-vax group My Place is pushing to take ‘control of council decisions’

Dr Roose said councils needed to be aware of the group’s aims.

“What we’re seeing here is a movement that is quite politically extreme in its outlook,” he said.

“What we’re seeing here is a manifestation of the freedom movement, albeit in a more formal manner.”

This is fine.
Not sinister.
Very reasonable.
7.30 sent Home Affairs a series of questions on My Place, its plans to target local councils, sovereign citizens and the spread of misinformation.

A spokesperson said: “The Department of Home Affairs is concerned about the proliferation of misinformation and disinformation in online environments, particularly those that influence Australia’s national security, democratic values and social cohesion.

“The department is working across government and with academia to develop approaches to misinformation and disinformation.”

Oh noes- extreme freedom.
Can be only one response from the ABccess spokesdrones.

Quite frankly after the last 3 years Id rather vote for a 5g -“the holocaust has some questions” – tinfoil crank than a Liberal party uniparty pervert.
Because, in the immortal words of Mr Textor “we dont matter’.

Roger
Roger
April 4, 2023 10:14 am

In light of OPEC’s decision to cut oil production…

Putin’s Pals

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 4, 2023 10:19 am

Images of deceased people would only be an issue from the time of the invention of the camera.

In the tribes of the Kimberly’s and the Pilbarra of Western Australia, images of deceased people are an issue only during the period of mourning.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 10:20 am

ABCcess’ latest fainting couch issue of the day..

Good to see Bosi make an appearance on the 7:30 report last night. Still time to make the Grampians for Easter.

Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 10:21 am

“Good to see Bosi make an appearance on the 7:30 report last night. Still time to make the Grampians for Easter.

What was the context?

Roger
Roger
April 4, 2023 10:23 am

7.30 sent Home Affairs a series of questions on My Place, its plans to target local councils, sovereign citizens and the spread of misinformation.

Has 7:30 investigated CCP influence in Australian elections?

(Serious question; it’s years since I’ve watched it.)

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 10:26 am

Bar Beach Swimmer says:
April 4, 2023 at 10:00 am

I agree, I just don’t the stupid angle that it was illegal.

…and no, neither major party bloc has repealed or even talked about repealing the Biosecurity Act or Public Health Acts.

Legal.
But politically and tactically stupid.
Politically it was always going to have a whiff of Napoleonic Complex about it.
Tactically it was a failure because it created a single point of failure in the back up mechanism (ScoMo) and the Ministers ScoMo was backing up for didn’t know he had done it. The risk was one of them getting crook and both making contradictory ministerial decisions simultaneously.

Legal but definitively bad – we need to change the constitution in a large and complex manner, perhaps with a simple and elegant solution.

I’m sure you’ve never heard of this before, what I propose. 🙂

Sortition
Term limits
Subsidiarity
Confederalism
Recall elections
Jury nullification
CIR to vote down bad laws
Sunset clauses on all legislation

Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 10:29 am

Wasn’t this a family that lived the life, awash with new cars, big homes, helicopters while most others in the region live in poverty…

Yes, Rosie. The Big Men of Arnhem Land have lived like kings while the local blackfellahs fought among themselves and drank themselves to death.

… and no-one is allowed there without permission so very few know the truth?

Actually, during the life of the recently closed Bauxite mine, 15 kms to the east, the township of Gove has been open to anyone — but you need a permit to travel to nearby Aboriginal settlements like Yirrkala.

True story: in the 1980s, when I visited Gove to report on an Aboriginal ceremony ritually welcoming fishermen from Makassar, 1500 kms away (who used to visit Arnhem Land and inter-breed with the locals), an old blackfellah, after drinking at a local pub in Gove, fell asleep on the steps of the local post office.

He woke up the next morning to find he had been painted white.

Imagine the screeching if that happened today.

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 10:29 am

don’t agree with…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 4, 2023 10:33 am

The Ex Factor.
Have you noticed that when the child of a divorced couple exhibits some attribute or trait which is perceived to be undesirable – drug abuse, homosexuality, doing jail time, transgenderism, voting Green or barracking for Collingwood – it is always the fault of the ex-spouse.
It is not considered whether this is even something which blame should be attributable to parents. Blame is laid and any suggestion of contributory negligence is not considered. It is not 95% or 90% the fault of the ex-spouse. It is 100% the fault of the ex-spouse and his/her/xe’s broader band of fellow travellers.
The Ex Factor.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 10:34 am

Regarding the extremely rare cases of intersex and other two-sex reproductive processes gone awry, then the best decision concerning a child’s future should be made at birth using modern medical technologies to determine what went wrong. This could give a good indication of the extent to which one or the other sex will be expressed in any biological future, including at puberty. There may be a case for limited intervention and awaiting reviews at puberty. These unfortunate people can have improved life prospects without the introduction of some cultural ‘dysphoric’ content to muddy the waters even further. No sensible person wishes to make the lives of intersex people more difficult. Social inclusion is always desirable.

Cassie of Sydney
April 4, 2023 10:35 am

“My hand are up.”

My hand IS up.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 4, 2023 10:35 am

Here we go…

Any criticism of a racially selected group of people being given extraordinary powers over Australian government is racist if it points out the group is selected by race.

No campaign against Indigenous voice criticised for using ‘really dehumanising’ language
Tamworth event was attended by Pauline Hanson, Barnaby Joyce, Alan Jones and former Labor minister Gary Johns


Jones claimed the voice would be a “new Indigenous-only bureaucracy that will have sweeping constitutional powers”.

“That was once called apartheid and we set our face against it,” he said.

Joyce said giving First Nations people a dedicated advisory body would be racist. “If one group has a right based on their DNA, another group does not have that right,” he said.

Sutherland accused some of the speakers of using dehumanising language and racist talking points.

“The Aboriginal community have made it really clear that language like ‘Aborigines’, ‘real blacks’, or ‘true blacks’, or Aboriginal people as ‘them’ or ‘those people’ is not only really dehumanising, but really othering,” he said.

“And it’s that foundation of language that leads to the supposed superiority of one race over another – which is the core of racism.

“It made me feel, hearing the perspectives of the speakers and for them to then receive almost standing ovations, made me feel as though I was living in a different country in a different time, under a different regime.”

At the event, Johns argued that the voice was not necessary because “the 80% of [Indigenous] men who did not go to jail are doing about as well as other Australians”.

Followed by a deliberate misinterpertation of what Jones said…
Quite plainly fudging % who have been in prison with currently in prison.

The incarceration rate for Indigenous men in 2022 was just over 4%, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. Johns did not cite a source for the much higher figure he used.

A touch of free form racism from the dreamtime…
A Gomeroi woman, Amy Hammond, was one of a dozen people protesting outside the meeting. She told Guardian Australia the protesters had received a few negative comments from the audience before the event but after it those comments had escalated. Hammond said one person had said: “The whites will win.” Another said: “The dingos have been here longer than you.”

“It’s something that we deal with, we experience those kinds of comments from childhood,” she said.

Its quite plain the no campaign will be the target of the most yellow journalism – no allegation of “harm” will be too tenuous not to be aired.

Roger
Roger
April 4, 2023 10:36 am

Still time to make the Grampians for Easter.

Don’t forget the bucket hat.

Might be a bit cool for shorts but…black trackie dacks ‘d be the go, I reckon.

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 10:37 am

Don’t forget to be a douchey son of a Victorian cop too. Absolutely no problem seeing them in the dark!

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 10:41 am

Don’t forget the bucket hat.
Might be a bit cool for shorts but…black trackie dacks ‘d be the go, I reckon.

The biggest problem is getting a park for the half track.

Robert Sewell
April 4, 2023 10:42 am

Knuckle Dragger:

Not normal, purposeful utes. Not the Matchbox Holden maloo utes with hard covers over a tray you couldn’t fit a bag of tennis balls in. Not even 4WD utes with steel trays ideal for filling full of broken concrete. Massive, leviathan, purposeless expensive caricature utes (the NT News):

I’d buy another Patrol tomorrow if they put a decent bloody engine in the damn thing. A turbo 6 liter would do – if it was a V8.
And why not?
It comes down to consumer demand.
And if you lot want to restrict me from what I want, then I may just demand the only vehicles allowed in Australia are these: Renault Twizy.
If you can dictate my buying choices, then I can dictate yours, OK?

duncanm
duncanm
April 4, 2023 10:43 am

shatterzzz says:
April 4, 2023 at 7:32 am
Gotta luv the tear-jerkers from “our” ABC ..
I’m guessin’ they think there are hoping for folk who care! .. LOL!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-04/international-students-resort-to-living-in-tents/102179212

What’s interesting in that article.. are the Chicoms manufacturing our capital city rental ‘crisis’ ?

Ms Jiang is one of the thousands of Chinese international students who had to rush back to Australia or risk losing their qualifications under a new Chinese government policy.

Lysander
Lysander
April 4, 2023 10:45 am

The DC Grand Jury hearing relates to the Mar A Lago “classified documents”.

Where’d you read that Dot? The details haven’t been released yet – only news of the indictment has (thanks to a leak which carries a more serious felony than what Trumpy is facing)…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 10:45 am

It’s easy to blame an ex-spouse when youngsters go off the rails or have any undesirable traits.

However, most parents, if they are honest, can see both themselves and their ex in the children of their union. And it’s never clear why children turn out as they do, usually with a mix of admirable and unlikeable traits. Some pertain to cultural influences, which may be inflicted by a spouse, but personality traits always kick in too. Most of us know our own personality styles quite well – and golly gosh, they aren’t all the best they could be, and there they are, staring at us in our own daydreaming and stubborn child. Similarly, we also know the spouse, and lookee, there’s that sideways glance and tendency to dissemble coming out in your child too.

Oh, and parents aren’t the only ones expressed genetically in their child.
Why oh why is he so like my father in temper, or so reserved, just like the spouse’s mother?
And look at her, my kids’ cousin, the spitting image of my mother. Genetics matters.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 10:45 am

What was the context?

Not entirely sure, I switched over to MAFS. I think something to do with the NSW election and guilty by association. The usual in other words. Some badly lit, handheld video from some meeting.

rosie
rosie
April 4, 2023 10:52 am

What’s interesting in that article.. are the Chicoms manufacturing our capital city rental ‘crisis’ ?

Between that and buying multi million dollar houses for mummy and daddy’s needs I would think a significant influence on price and availability.
Drove down Union St in Surrey Hills the other day, now close to 50% faux French chalets.

Roger
Roger
April 4, 2023 10:52 am

Reports of Porter Davis new builds in Melbourne being vandalised and, in one instance, set on fire.

Disgruntled tradies suspected.

Not the sharpest tools in the box then.

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 10:57 am

My source was Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-former-secret-service-agents-testify-dc-grand-jury-friday-documents-case

Several U.S. Secret Service agents connected to former President Trump have been subpoenaed and are expected to testify before a Washington, D.C., grand jury likely on Friday this week.

The grand jury appearances are related to Special Counsel Jack Smith’s probe into the handling of classified documents at Trump’s personal estate, Mar-a-Lago.

A source familiar with the probe did not give a definitive number of agents involved, but confirmed the April 7 scheduled testimony.

Okay…

Smith’s team is alleging that Trump mislead his attorneys about the classified documents stored at his home.

The definition of a crime in the US is becoming more and more bizarre by the day.

Roger
Roger
April 4, 2023 10:58 am

Where’d you read that Dot? The details haven’t been released yet – only news of the indictment has (thanks to a leak which carries a more serious felony than what Trumpy is facing)…

One of Trump’s lawyers has been ordered to appear before a grand jury and essentually violate attorney-client privilege on matters related to the classified documents discovered at Mar-a-Lago.

This is potentially more serious than the Stormy Daniels matter.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 10:58 am

Drove down Union St in Surrey Hills the other day, now close to 50% faux French chalets.

They do make the renovate or demolish decision easier. Lot of great houses getting knocked over in the meantime unfortunately.

JC
JC
April 4, 2023 11:00 am

Good one Liz

How much self reflection did you notice on the pity trolling thread?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 11:05 am

“The Aboriginal community have made it really clear that language like ‘Aborigines’, ‘real blacks’, or ‘true blacks’, or Aboriginal people as ‘them’ or ‘those people’ is not only really dehumanising, but really othering,” he said.

Well, in that case, the wretched Voice is a total instrument of ‘othering’.

Whenever that term comes up in discourse, you know you are in for an ongoing mouthful of post-modernism. It is one of the key tenets of their overall world-view of ‘post-Colonialism’. Othering is anyone but whites. It is as crude as that. White people can never be ‘the other’. Others can be subdivided of course into various constituent groups. How they are ‘named’ by the Colonialists is said to be a signifier of the problem. So the simple use of that terms tells us immediately who has been fouling the minds of Australia’s aboriginal people, and setting them up as welfare dependents destined for continual failure. It is the people who’ve taught them to hate, and to use the word ‘other’.

‘Othering’ demands the use of a new terminology for the ‘oppressed’: hence First Nations.

It’s not hard to see how most of our current problems stem from the Marxist take-over of our key institutions, especially the media and educational institutions, which then normalise these post-Modernist versions of life and history.

Vote NO to all this. A great opportunity for Australia to resist these intrusions and to develop something better to offer aboriginal people.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 4, 2023 11:05 am

Personally, I’ve always relied on Landcruisers to get me to and from remote worksites. They aren’t the most powerful things (unmodified) and have their weaknesses (the standard clutch) – but they do the job and you can get parts and repairs all over this wide brown land.

I have absolutely no problem with people buying ESV’s (love the term) or whatever floats their boat. They are, however, taking the risk of being stuck in Bumcrack for a week, or so while someone wrangles a fix for a computer problem, or a buggered exhaust sensor on their Silverado, F650, or RAM.

Probably doesn’t matter too much if time isn’t money.

Dot
Dot
April 4, 2023 11:08 am

April 7 scheduled testimony.

Err

Good Friday?

These people are nuts.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 4, 2023 11:11 am

Several U.S. Secret Service agents connected to former President Trump have been subpoenaed and are expected to testify before a Washington, D.C., grand jury likely on Friday this week.

I did ask in passing a few years back – whats the odds slick Willy Clinton attended the Epstein bunga bunga parties surrounded by bodyguards?

if the dems are happy to break the “hear no evil, see no evil” code of the secret service i say bring it on – in spades.

Robert Sewell
April 4, 2023 11:12 am

Big Nambas:

It reminds me of an old Scottish proverb that it’s only dead fish that go with the flow.

Very good!

Tom
Tom
April 4, 2023 11:15 am

Several U.S. Secret Service agents connected to former President Trump have been subpoenaed and are expected to testify before a Washington, D.C., grand jury likely on Friday this week.

Hahaha.

A court hearing designed to bring down Donald Trump on Good Friday.

Satanism hiding in plain sight.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 4, 2023 11:15 am

I have absolutely no problem with people buying ESV’s (love the term) or whatever floats their boat.

The company doing the demolition work on a brownfield housing development have a customised RAM 3500 dual cab parked there from time to time. Covered in vinyl wrap. It’s basically advertising. I hate to think what it cost but at least the depreciation is deductible.

johanna
johanna
April 4, 2023 11:16 am

Re the alleged taboo of showing pictures of dead Aboriginal people:

It is my understanding that ‘taboos’ like the above, and not naming people after they have died, and having your picture taken steals your spirit – are pretty specific to tribes or groups of tribes in a particular area. They are certainly not nationwide, or didn’t use to be.

However, as part of the blurring of reality to make it seem that Aborigines were a ‘nation’ pre European settlement, we now see media morons and entrepreneurial activists of all shades appropriating regional customs as if they are applicable to all Aborigines.

It is both ignorant and dishonest, but when has that ever stopped the fabricators of truth?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 4, 2023 11:16 am

In tragic news there is one less set of ladyballs in the world.
In unsurprising news the world has gained a new festering groin hole in their place.
The original ladyballs- taken too soon…

https://theothermccain.com/2023/04/03/waxmyballs-update/

Frank
Frank
April 4, 2023 11:18 am

“Trans Activist Dylan Mulvaney Partners With Bud Light for March Madness”

Real men of genius.

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 11:20 am

Thanks Joh for answering my question about the photos. I haven’t watched the ABC for a very long time, but when I did they always prefaced programs with the warning about images.

Then, last night, there were photos on Seven news so I wondered.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 4, 2023 11:21 am

Doomed Planet

Bowen’s Blight, Greens’ Delight, a Nation’s Plight

Peter Smith

Anyone who has consulted the Federal Parliament’s website to find out what the Safeguard Mechanism (Crediting) Amendment Bill 2023 is all about, now that it has been amended by The Greens, good luck. As with all legislation it will keep lawyers in business. I found explanations by so called journalists wanting. Perhaps they didn’t take the trouble to understand it. I have to say that I think the ABC provided the clearest explanation; at least that I found.

The Safeguard Mechanism catches any entity or company (“facility” in the Bill) whose operations emit more than 100,000 tonnes of CO2 equivalent (CO2-eq) per year. CO2-eq theoretically converts all greenhouse gas emissions to the equivalent of CO2 in terms of their estimated global warming effect. Apparently 215 facilities are caught right now in the Mechanism, but this of course could change.

Coming into effect on July 1, the Clean Energy Regulator will establish baseline emissions for each facility which they will have to better by at least 4.9 percent each year until 2030. Bear in mind that the 4.9 percent is a constant number deducted from the initial baseline. So a baseline of 100 kilotonnes becomes 95.1 in year one; 90.2 in year two; 85.3 in year three and so on. In other words, the percentage reduction becomes more burdensome as the years roll on.

Back to real life and The Greens.

We’ve secured a pollution trigger that, for the first time in history … will require the Climate Change Minister to test a new or expanded project’s impact on the hard cap …The Minister’s action or lack of action would be subject to legal enforcement.

Legal enforcement. Ah, there’s the rub. A rub which will deter new projects from starting never mind stop them when they’re afoot.

As it is, in May 2021, Australian Federal Court judge Mordy Bromberg sided with a group of eight female teenagers who were intent on stopping a particular mining development because it would contribute to climate change. While his decision was reversed, it was undoubtedly ominous and predictive.

Now imagine what the courts will do when green and/or indigenous litigants, represented by the likes of the well-funded Environmental Defenders Office (EDO), come armed with the amended Safeguard Mechanism Act with its hard cap on emissions. It’s all over, Red Rover. Energy poverty and related deprivations ahead. Get used to it.

Meanwhile

Cement groups warn jobs at risk without local leg-up on carbon

Simon Evans – Senior reporter

The bosses of the biggest ASX-listed cement manufacturers echoed concerns aired by federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton, arguing the Albanese government needs to beef up protection for local manufacturers under the safeguard mechanism to protect jobs.

Mr Dutton warned of the prospect of cement manufacturers “leaving our shores” as the costs imposed on them by the safeguard mechanism on the 215 highest emitters in Australia becomes a handicap which would simply transfer carbon emissions to other markets.

Vik Bansal, chief executive of Boral, said a carbon border adjustment mechanism would help in ensuring local manufacturers could compete with rivals from other countries without a safeguard equivalent. Without that import parity, carbon emissions would simply be shifted overseas, as more cement is imported into Australia.

“We need to ensure local manufacturers remain competitive and there’s no carbon leakage or bleed that occurs with importation of materials from countries with lower environmental standards,” Mr Bansal said on Monday.

Boral, Adbri, and Cement Australia, a joint venture between global cement giant Holcim and Hansen, are all in the list of 215 companies captured by the federal government’s safeguard mechanism legislation agreed with the Greens last week.

A key element of the deal includes Labor legislating an intent to cut annual emissions from the country’s top 215 polluters from 140 million tonnes to 100 million tonnes by 2030.

Other changes struck in the deal include bumping up transition support to decarbonise industries including steel, cement and aluminium from $600 million to $1 billion.

Cement makers are among the companies able to buy carbon offsets to help cut their baseline emissions.

Adbri chief executive Mark Irwin said speed was important in bringing in a level playing field so that local cement manufacturers are not disadvantaged. Adbri has four cement plants in Australia. The group’s Birkenhead plant in Adelaide, which employs 300 people and has been in operation since 1914, is considered most at risk.

“A carbon border adjustment mechanism would preserve manufacturing jobs in Australia and also minimise the risk of carbon leakage,” Mr Irwin said.

“We hope that the government and the opposition can work together to implement a carbon border adjustment mechanism as soon as possible for sectors such as ours,” he said. Adbri applauded the move by the government to lift funding for industry transition support to $1 billion.

Boral’s Mr Bansal said a level playing field was needed in the cement industry, because if the safeguard mechanism resulted in more cement being imported from higher emitting countries, it did not solve the problem. Boral operates six cement plants in Australia.

Federal Opposition leader Mr Dutton said on the ABC’s Insiders program on Sunday that the cement industry in Australia had “grave concerns” about the future of their manufacturing plants at home.

“The cement industry is one such industry that I think is at real risk of leaving our shores,” Mr Dutton said. “They have very grave concerns about the future of their sector.”

He said the likely backlash on social media was a major part of the reason why more business leaders weren’t speaking out against the extra costs imposed on them.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 4, 2023 11:22 am

Have you noticed that when the child of a divorced couple exhibits some attribute or trait which is perceived to be undesirable – drug abuse, homosexuality, doing jail time, transgenderism, voting Green or barracking for Collingwood – it is always the fault of the ex-spouse.

And:

Blame is laid and any suggestion of contributory negligence is not considered. It is not 95% or 90% the fault of the ex-spouse. It is 100% the fault of the ex-spouse and his/her/xe’s broader band of fellow travellers.
The Ex Factor.

Haha. Snort.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 11:23 am

How much self reflection did you notice on the pity trolling thread?

Well, I know I do self-reflection, JC, all the time actually re my kids, but that wasn’t the issue there, where bringing up children in a co-parenting relationship with ‘progressive’ Marxists was the point of the discussion, and in Matrix’s case, of having his daughter slowly netted into the transgender cult.

The most useful thing there is to discuss how cults trap one’s kids. It’s a known phenomenon to which deprogramming has become an answer. We have to start thinking of how to promote deprogramming from some of the worst of the left cultish indoctrination that our kids are receiving; that’s the parental task now, not worrying too much about how one may have been contributory to any issues. The past is the unchangeable past. In responding to the chaos my sons from my previous marriage experienced I also have to acknowledge that I was caught up in some of the madness of leftism during their early childhood. Matrix certainly did that too, saying he helped out with his wife’s thesis etc and tried to live family life within the left’s ambit.

You do try to counter some of what was obvious early on was dangerous stuff, as Matrix also noted. My ex used to leave the boys, aged six and eight, unattended while he went to parties, sometimes they were seen wandering the streets during his absence, and I played merry hell about that. He also didn’t have beds for them, only bean bags, until I also shamed him into getting camp beds. Then, by marrying Hairy, a whole new system of authority was introduced to them, and of course, was resisted. They now appreciate what he did for them insisting on sports and coaching their teams, seeing him today as a really good guy, but they still did their worst to tear us apart by their behaviour. I was caught in the middle. He was so very protective of our two new little ones. They resented it. Not ideal.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 4, 2023 11:24 am

Hang on.

or barracking for Collingwood

How dare you, sir! D-mn your eyes! Retire, I say!

Robert Sewell
April 4, 2023 11:24 am

Cassie of Sydney:

Speaking of that saintly man, it’s coming up to three years since he was released from prison, remember, remember…….7-0. My God, what a marvellous day that was, it still brings tears to my eyes.

I understand there is a move to petition the Pope for granting Sainthood on The Cardinal.*
Is that the process?
* The move was printed here, in the august Journal of Record – ‘New Catallaxy Files’ today, by me. So technically it’s not a fib.
I’d push it more to show the government and media what arseholes they are. And if they campaigned against it, they’d have to take an anti religious line which would probably be the last straw for some of their voters.

P
P
April 4, 2023 11:26 am

Breaking911
@Breaking911
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NEW: Trump calls for Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg to indict himself

“He will go down in Judicial history, and his Trump Hating wife will be, I am sure, very proud of him!”

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1643052871833747456

Roger
Roger
April 4, 2023 11:27 am

In horse has bolted news…

Manu Macron kicked off his African tour last month in former French colony Gabon.

Gabon joined the British Commonwealth last year, one of several former French possessions in Africa to do so in recent times.

The official welcome was given in English.

calli
calli
April 4, 2023 11:28 am

If the ex is a diabolical lunatic and has custody rights over young children, then it’s fair to attribute the children’s resulting fragility/anti-social behaviour/poor grades to that person.

Of course Teflon types will try on the “you maaaade me do it”. Amicable breakups where parents share responsibility are fraught enough and kids are very good at playing one parent off against another.

There’s a lot of malice in the world and children make excellent pawns.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 4, 2023 11:33 am

No good Voice choices for Dutton tomorrow.

Yes: Playing straight into Uncle Luigi’s hands.
Farewell Broad Church. Dutton ends up generously sharing the political blame if the electorate votes ‘No’ at Referendum, or alternatively as Executive Government clogs up with generous consultation and Liberals are locked out of government. Conservative Liberal’s head for the hills.

No: Principled argument counts for nowt in this debate, because emotion.
Nasty Party hysteria in parliament, media, and in the Teal flavoured electorates. Plus the unedifying sight of wet Liberal members crossing the floor to support Uncle Luigi’s generous spirit.

Sqidge: ‘More information’, ‘Leeser’s Delay’, ‘Another Form of Words’ – all softcock options that have been bypassed by the politics. Dutton and the Liberals become irrelevant.

This is an Acid Test of the viability of the Liberal Party – and it’s very hard to see past ‘holed below the waterline’.

Uncle Luigi has played Dutton like a vuvuzela.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 4, 2023 11:33 am

He said the likely backlash on social media was a major part of the reason why more business leaders weren’t speaking out against the extra costs imposed on them.

CEO’s have to learn to ignore social media altogether; it is a only a loud minority.

Speak up, or die.

Robert Sewell
April 4, 2023 11:34 am

Shy Ted:

Shy Ted has spent a lifetime as a nurse in remote areas and he is very familiar with the physical breakdown of the whole population.

Have we crossed paths along the way, Shy Ted?
Would love to have a beer or two with you some day.
Happy to have Dover Beach give you my email address.

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