Open Thread – Tues 11 April 2023


Passage of the Jews through the Red Sea, Ivan Aivazovsky, 1891

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Razey
Razey
April 13, 2023 8:42 pm

Voldemort slays ABC sewer rat.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
April 13, 2023 8:45 pm

Why are there so many autistic children these days? I didn’t know a single one when I went to school and my high school was a large girls only school, 1200 of us. I don’t think it’s vaccines because Silicon Valley had/has a very high rate of autistic or Asperger kids.

Well it’s a spectrum so some aren’t obvious and some are so far along it’s irrelevant. I have a couple of attributes but they are immaterial, yet it is inevitable that standards will loosen and most people will get onto the NDIS.

Razey
Razey
April 13, 2023 8:46 pm

Worth it or Woke? If it aint woke, dont miss it.

Pretty useful website.

https://worthitorwoke.com/

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
April 13, 2023 8:46 pm

James Spaders best movie was ‘The Secretary’.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 13, 2023 8:50 pm

Thanks, Cassie, and so true, Bruce of Newc.

As a mother and grandmother (thank you E11R), my heart is always in my mouth when these things happen. My other son with my first husband is no better really, I call around weekly just to make sure he is still alive and usually give him $50 and some food. I pay for both of their internet and phones, as I need to keep in touch with them. Children of the 70’s left, and I love them both dearly. Also carrying a varied load of genes. As do I. Fortunately, my now-deceased brother and I didn’t express these or we hid it well, but my Big Sis, the strongest of us three in many ways, did express the mental frailties (to some extent) in the course of her many marriages. Stability really does matter. Thank you, Hairy.

Dot
Dot
April 13, 2023 8:53 pm

James Spaders best movie was ‘The Secretary’.

…and in my opinion, Maggie Gyllenhall’s.

shatterzzz
April 13, 2023 8:54 pm

Biden 2024 promo clip ..!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8sUCbt1Siyc

bons
bons
April 13, 2023 8:58 pm

Rocks,
In the spirit of Musk, name a genuine problem with grey nomads.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
April 13, 2023 9:02 pm

The Secretary…..oh to find a love that works. Extremely under rated movie.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 9:03 pm

Great view of Isla on Port Headland radar

My word it is.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 13, 2023 9:03 pm

James Spaders best movie was ‘The Secretary’

.

Been watching some old clips of Stargate lately. Spader is perfect in it.
I prefer Richard Dean Anderson to Kurt Russell, but the latter did well also.

shatterzzz
April 13, 2023 9:05 pm

When I’m minted, how much will Dolphins RLFC soak me to buy a signed inaugural round jersey?

At the moment, whilst they are punching above their weight probably worth a few bob but later it will depend on how they fare ove r the next coupla seasons ..
I have a full team signed Western Sydney Wanderers jersey from the Asian Champions League Cup win .. worth a sight more 4 seasons ago when they were a class team than now since they’re on the downhill to very average ….

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 9:06 pm

James Spaders best movie was ‘The Secretary’

No. NO.

Pretty In Pink, by a street, and ably assisted by the greatest soundtrack of the time.

If you leave
Don’t leave now
Please don’t steal my heart away

Aaaand so on.

Indolent
Indolent
April 13, 2023 9:08 pm
Eyrie
Eyrie
April 13, 2023 9:08 pm

The Russians didn’t like the Poles much in 1939 either. The pieces were just getting cleared off the board for the main event in 1941. Stalin certainly knew that main event was going to happen and if you were running Germany then you’d have a fair suspicion also.
Russia could afford to trade distance for time, Germany could not. Pretty much explains what happened. Barbarossa was a success but an intel failure as the Russians had far more reserves unknown to the Germans.

BTW this is what happens when you don’t have nukes.

They way the Poles are mouthing off now they could get the world in a whole lot of trouble.

shatterzzz
April 13, 2023 9:09 pm

Why are there so many autistic children these days?

Out here in “houso” land cos it qualifies for extra welfare benefits .. simples ..!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2023 9:12 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you mob.

My physician has declared my liver in good order and condition…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2023 9:15 pm

No tranny freaks here.

Stive Morgan – Ring Of Spring

Real Deal
Real Deal
April 13, 2023 9:16 pm

Confirmed.
Steve Tickler is Erich von Däniken.

I may be straying into Ed territory, but I seem to remember von Daniken used to smoke a pipe that was upside down.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 13, 2023 9:17 pm

Eyriesays:
April 13, 2023 at 9:08 pm
The Russians didn’t like the Poles much in 1939 either. The pieces were just getting cleared off the board for the main event in 1941. Stalin certainly knew that main event was going to happen and if you were running Germany then you’d have a fair suspicion also.

It’s all mutual.

Old Polish joke: Poland was invaded from the East by the Russians, and from the West by the Germans. Which do they fight first?

The Germans, of course. Business before pleasure.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 13, 2023 9:22 pm

Boambee John, yes just another episode in the Multi millennial Euro clusterf**k.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 13, 2023 9:27 pm

80km/h in 100 zone then at overtaking lane accelerate to 110. (Concede common occurrence by locals on Bruce Hwy from Ingham to Babinda and mine workers accelerating on Peak Downs hwy when someone indicates they are overtaking)

Convoy right up each others rear end so one cannot safely overtake by leap frogging said convoy.

My suburb on said Bruce Hwy the Coles supermarket said caravans taking anywhere between 8-12 spots in car park because they don’t want to park up on the service rd and walk an extra 100m. Seen it elsewhere too.

That’s off the top my head and about to turn in for the night. I have relatives (Aunties & uncles) who have all the gear and travel, I have no issue with that.

From my experience of spending years driving where the speed limit is 100km/h courtesy seems lacking and I will be fair in the fact a lot of the time I don’t think it is malicious or pig headed. Just absent mindedness witout the pressures of working life but is frustrating given the state of CQ & NQ highways. I drive to conditions/leave fudge factors etc.

That said, grey nomads pale into insignificance compared to backpackers erratic habits. Grrr, perhaps I should have mentioned them instead.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2023 9:27 pm

Good on the big screen.

Stive Morgan The crossroads of time

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 13, 2023 9:28 pm

I love the story of JFK sailing in Newport RI. when he was President. Pulled up at the New York Yacht Club and was told to F. off. This is a private club. Full of Republicans.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 13, 2023 9:30 pm

Knucks really picking up now.

165 sustained 202 gusts.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 9:34 pm

Knucks really picking up now.

Yup. Would be starting to get decidedly unpleasant, whether the punters there are used to four cyclones a year or not.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 9:38 pm

80km/h in 100 zone then at overtaking lane accelerate to 110

Oh yes. A thousand times yes.

The Rons and Dorises (Super Jayco Tourer, UHF channel 57, put your keys in the fruit bowl), being retired, have the firm belief that because they have nowhere particular to be then nobody else has anywhere to be, and why are people driving within 10kph of the speed limit on sunny days and why doesn’t anyone relax any more?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2023 9:40 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oXDXo96iAk&t=103s

Alan Brooke, and the Brittany redoubt. The British attempted to re – invade France after the evacuation from Dunkirk, in 1940.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 13, 2023 9:40 pm

Former DOJ Assistant AG @JeffClarkUS talks about the FOIA documents that reveal the Biden Administration ordered the Trump Mar-a-Lago raid:
“We have President Biden and his spokeswoman KJP saying on tape back in August that they knew nothing and didn’t authorize this… Well, they did authorize this. That’s the bombshell, they authorized it through this special access program, and they lied about it.

Nixon didn’t order the Watergate break-in to happen, but simply denying there was any connection from his re-election committee to the burglary (and then the coverup failing) was enough to start a likely impeachment trial.
Surely it is safe to say that the Biden admin’s decision to raid the next POTUS frontrunner is bigger than Watergate ?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 13, 2023 9:44 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

April 13, 2023 at 5:46 pm

‘That is such an ABC question.’

That was Dutton to an ABC reporter during a presser where he was asked ‘what evidence do you have that children are being sexually abused in Alice Springs?’

Now that is straight out of the Musk playbook.
Don’t go on the back foot and start scratching for stats and reports to support your position. Which they will then start picking holes in … “Ooooh. Dutton said 36% of Aboriginal children had been abused. Fact checker says No.”
(It’s 34%).
Remember, it was their ABC correspondent who reported “white supremacist” comments from an Alice Springs town hall meeting which they weren’t in attendance at.
Treat them like the enemy.
Because they are.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2023 9:45 pm
Crossie
Crossie
April 13, 2023 9:46 pm

We grumble a lot about journalists not reporting what is really going on and what is important but I think this blame is misplaced. The real culprits are editors, in the case of newspapers, who assign work and decide what will be reported and what is ignored. For TV channels we should blame producers and not so much the owners of the media. Of course, none of this applies to the ABC, they are all scum.

Cassie of Sydney
April 13, 2023 9:49 pm

“Treat them like the enemy.
Because they are.”

Yep.

Crossie
Crossie
April 13, 2023 9:50 pm

and why are people driving within 10kph of the speed limit on sunny days and why doesn’t anyone relax any more?

Ha, if only it were 10 kph under the speed limit. Some of the dodderers drive 30-40 under the limit, enough to drive you spare.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
April 13, 2023 9:53 pm

Looks like Ilsa will cross the coast between DeGrey and Pardoo in the next couple of hours.

Residents up there are used to battening down for cyclones and permanent structures are built like Fort Knox, but Ilsa looks like one angry beast at Cat5 and already gusting over 130 knots.

Fingers crossed for the next day or so.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 9:59 pm

Ilsa looks like one angry beast

Sustained winds of 193kph at Bedout Island now. God knows what it’s gusting up to.

Hooo boy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2023 10:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyNNlkJ3vvE

Peter Dutton reads the A.B.C. their horoscope!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2023 10:06 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 10:09 pm

198kph….

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 10:10 pm

You would forgive some sphincters in NW WA going five-cent fifty-cent at the moment.

Crossie
Crossie
April 13, 2023 10:11 pm

So much for both Liz Storer and Caleb Bond for insisting that Simon Birmingham has a right to be for the Voice. And this is even after the party room decided they will be pursuing the No vote. Liz and Caleb are insisting that Liberals allow for that. In that case I can see why they have lost the last three elections, federal, Victorian and Aston by-election. With the attitude like this they will also lose all forthcoming elections.

Pity about Liz and Caleb, they had promise but are now typical of the Libs. I expect more commitment in people who want my vote. You want to follow you conscience run as an independent.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 10:14 pm

The Tele:

“There is a threat to lives and homes. You are in danger and need to act immediately,” WA’s Department of Fire and Emergency Services (DFES) warned.

“Stay indoors now. It is too late to leave.”

Obviously.

Extremely destructive winds of up to 315 km/h are expected around the centre of Ilsa and will impact areas near Pardoo Roadhouse and De Grey.

Bloody hell.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 13, 2023 10:18 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:

April 13, 2023 at 7:46 pm

Prohibition ended in 1933, so I’m wondering why there would be restrictions on Whisky ten years later

Battle of the Atlantic…

And when was that?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 10:24 pm

Sustained winds of 209kph.

It got to 217 in D-Town during Tracy before the wind measuring gear broke.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2023 10:26 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 13, 2023 10:27 pm

And now 154kph. Going into the eye.

Cassie of Sydney
April 13, 2023 10:27 pm

“In that case I can see why they have lost the last three elections, federal, Victorian and Aston by-election. “

Actually five elections since March 2022…….SA, federal, Victorian, NSW and Aston.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 13, 2023 10:31 pm

Pranksters Vovan and Lexus posing as Zelensky tricked ECB President Christine Lagarde into disclosing her plan to launch a “Digital Euro” in October that will give central banks control over how citizens can spend money:
“There will be control. You’re right. You’re completely right. We are considering whether for very small amounts, you know, anything that is around 300, 400 €, we could have a mechanism where there is zero control. But that could be dangerous…
I don’t want Europe to be dependent on an unfriendly country’s currency, for instance, you know, the Chinese currency, the Russian currency… I don’t want Meta, Google, or Amazon to suddenly come up with a currency that would take over the sovereignty of Europe.”

It’s quite a spinout to realise we live in a world where people with influence actually want to create an Orwellian dystopia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 13, 2023 10:34 pm

Any of the bush lawyers on this blog help out? Any bets on how long it will be, before “Australia Day” and “Anzac Day” are on the list, to go, if the voice gets up?

rickw
rickw
April 13, 2023 10:35 pm

Strange things! LMI on CCP’s crane is accurate and working?!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 13, 2023 10:44 pm

Crossiesays:

April 13, 2023 at 9:46 pm

We grumble a lot about journalists not reporting what is really going on and what is important but I think this blame is misplaced. The real culprits are editors, in the case of newspapers, who assign work and decide what will be reported and what is ignored. 

Yes.
It is what they report as much as how they report it.
And the “how” might be about to change.
A standard ABC report goes like this:-
Intro (30 seconds).
ALP sound grab (30 seconds).
LNP sound grab (15 seconds).
Greens sound grab (45 seconds).
Wrap up (30 seconds).
In twelve months time it will be:-
Intro (20 seconds).
ALP sound grab (20 seconds).
LNP sound grab (10 seconds).
Greens sound grab (30 seconds).
The Voice sound grab (50 seconds).
Wrap up (20 seconds).

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2023 10:44 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2023 10:49 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
April 13, 2023 at 8:27 pm
Confirmed.
Steve Tickler is Erich von Däniken.

Go buy your newspaper in the morning.

MatrixTransform
April 13, 2023 10:52 pm

It is what they report as much as how they report it.

Sancho telling a variation of the same “joke” every day (4 years, 11 months, 13 days)

rickw
rickw
April 13, 2023 10:55 pm

Danish Bombshell: Three Levels of Pfizer mRNA Vax Batches with Various Association to SAEs, Including Deaths

Feel the quality! In your chest…

rickw
rickw
April 13, 2023 10:59 pm

Any bets on how long it will be, before “Australia Day” and “Anzac Day” are on the list, to go, if the voice gets up?

We’re starting National Cheese Day in retaliation!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE-al0xSFJo&t=5s

cohenite
April 13, 2023 11:02 pm
Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
April 13, 2023 11:10 pm

There was a 280kmh gust at Bedout Island (roughly 100km NE of Port Hedland) and it looks like the weather station there is offline, probably in pieces after Ilsa gave it a kick.

Bedout Island weather station.

Razey
Razey
April 13, 2023 11:16 pm

Feel the quality! In your chest…

It just means it’s working.

Winston Smith
April 13, 2023 11:30 pm

Indolent:
Should Charles be King?
You’re right – the oath says he must support the Church of England, but he is saying he will defend all faiths. The original is pretty simple. He must defend the Church of England. But is he saying he will defend ALL faiths, including the Roman Catholic, The Hindus, Buddhists and Jews. And even Islam?
The Cof E has a stranglehold on this coronation stuff and could – if they discovered they had balls – stop the process in it’s tracks.
Stay tuned….

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 13, 2023 11:39 pm

All the kids with a smile on their face. Priceless.

Cash and Rowdy:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane and Rowdy outside of a mall

Winston Smith
April 13, 2023 11:43 pm

Knuckle Dragger:

Sustained winds of 193kph at Bedout Island now. God knows what it’s gusting up to.

I’m blaming Global Warming.
…and the stupid bloody Liberals.

Winston Smith
April 13, 2023 11:45 pm

Extremely destructive winds of up to 315 km/h are expected around the centre of Ilsa and will impact areas near Pardoo Roadhouse and De Grey.

Lets take the yacht out for a spin!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 13, 2023 11:59 pm

Lizzie is across all this, has lived experience in relation to relatives, I imagine this is all old news to her.

True enough. The familial element is marked in ASD and schizoid phenomena. This was shown to be the case with suicidal ideation (and completing it) in Van Gogh’s family history. When it is in both families of a child’s heritage the risks get quite high – for eg. my ex, a talented logician, had clear Aspberger’s tendencies, his brother had a daughter with ‘mental problems’, while his father was extremely obsessive; and both of my parents had mental breakdowns, mother’s particularly schizoid in style, father’s ran to paranoia and grandiose delusional states, and my maternal grandmother was a ‘spiritual medium’ who enjoyed trance states, so enough said there. My brother had two sons, one of whom who is very like my first, intelligent but unable to function, prone to distraction and literal thinking. Since my brother’s death this son, who took that death very hard, has really been struggling, for parental support is needed lifelong for these kids. My brother’s other son was fine but one of his sons is also autistic. My two sons from my first marriage have diagnosable autistic/bipolar tendencies and my eldest son’s son is on the NDIS as autistic with ADD. My son with Hairy, that son with such sharp intelligence who masks his issues with humour, sometimes finds life’s normal problems overwhelming, but he copes, however he now has a four-year old son (birthday this week) who is severely developmentally delayed in speech, has poor facial recognition and has very marked ADD.

High intelligence, stellar academic performances and creative original inventiveness are not unknown either in our crew when opportunities are afforded.

After two years of counselling families and individuals in strife I have seen these sorts of patterns recurring constantly in families. There is nothing so very unusual about my own family, I concluded, but there is definitely a genetic trail for ASD and schizoid behaviours. Circumstances can also affect outcomes, that much too is clear.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 14, 2023 12:13 am

Here you go Zulu:

Australia Day and other national celebrations could be in the firing line of a future Indigenous Voice to Parliament, experts and campaigners have claimed, despite a denial from the government that no such change would occur.

Indigenous Australians minister Linda Burney on Thursday hosed down a possible change to the date of Australia Day should the Voice referendum pass, saying “the Australian government has a very clear policy on Australia Day”.

But the denial did nothing to allay the fears of critics.

“I expect Australia Day is one of the first things they’ll try and change,” Chris Merritt, vice president of the Rule of Law Institute of Australia, said.

“If you look at what all the leading proponents of the Voice have said … it will be high on the agenda.”

Mr Merritt said the Voice would be able to make representations on Australia Day because “as it is proposed, it will be able to weigh in on any aspect of Australian life and if the parliament tries to set rules around it, that will be challenged in the High Court.”

Aboriginal leader Warren Mundine, one of the organisers of the “no” campaign on the upcoming referendum agreed, saying: “If the Voice gets up it will be Australia Day and a lot more than that”, adding: “It is nothing more than a constitutional power grab for a minority of activists and elites.”

However, speaking in Darwin on Thursday, Ms Burney said the Voice “will certainly not be about making changes to things like Australia Day … we have no plans to change it.”

The Indigenous Australians minister’s comments were slammed by deputy opposition leader Sussan Ley who said “given the scope of Anthony Albanese’s proposal remains undefined, the minister cannot rule out the Voice having a de facto veto over our national days of commemoration.”

Daily Tele

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 14, 2023 12:21 am

The beauty of the female with a dress just below the knee. Imagination has its place and rewarded if you win the chance to explore.

Nothing beats it.

Rita Hayworth Is Stayin’ Alive

John H.
John H.
April 14, 2023 12:35 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
April 13, 2023 at 11:59 pm
Lizzie is across all this, has lived experience in relation to relatives, I imagine this is all old news to her.

True enough. …

Your compassion and commitment in helping those in your family line is admirable. Many would be overwhelmed by those challenges. Best wishes.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 14, 2023 12:36 am

Yep the Brits.
Fought the Germans in two wars and didn’t indulge in a rape-athon in Germany or anywhere else.
Debased systems produce debased soldiers.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 14, 2023 12:42 am

What was the excuse for the Russians murdering 22,000 Polish officers at Katyn before the Germans even invaded?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

President Biden (who is not senile, no siree honestly he ain’t) upon arrival in the UK is met by Rishi Sunak (the UKPM), brushes him aside (after all, he’s jest another coloured folk) to swap salutes & greetings with an important looking uniformed type, who at least was white and looked important.

Gabor
Gabor
April 14, 2023 1:12 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
April 14, 2023 at 12:45 am

President Biden (who is not senile, no siree honestly he ain’t) upon arrival in the UK is met by Rishi Sunak (the UKPM), brushes him aside (after all, he’s jest another coloured folk) to swap salutes & greetings with an important looking uniformed type, who at least was white and looked important

You sure that is not photo-shopped?
Had to look twice, if true it’s unreal.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You sure that is not photo-shopped?

On the internet you never really know.
From lotsa searching it seems fair dinkum.
The best defence that is being presented by pro-Biden types can be summarized as “Rishi Sunak isn’t as important as the King, thus Biden was justified in pushing him away to engage with a Royal representative”
This is just blather, as nobody commenting knows who the uniformed chap actually is.

Biden doubled down shortly afterward in a speech by confusing the Black & Tans for the New Zealand All Blacks.
(I am not making this up)

JC
JC
April 14, 2023 3:01 am

Certainly Britain could brag about its reputation (relatively speaking).

Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 4:13 am
Johnny Rotten
April 14, 2023 4:30 am

Thanks again Tom.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 14, 2023 6:23 am

Well, outa Auckland today and back to Oz. Not impressed by NZ’s capital – just another big city.

On our way out of the centre of the CBD where we are staying we will have to pass the “street people” as they are called here. Of course we have grown to know and love them. Not!

Amazing how many cities now tolerate aggressive and often dangerous bums camping in doorways and panhandling all day. “They’re sick” is the response in these enlightened times.

Secret sicknesses, I say, or instead self-imposed bad choices. There are five young men and women in our area who look fit enough to work. Instead they “ask” for money all day. I saw a young woman give one of them an orange the other day, and he took it civilly enough, but as soon as she was out of sight threw it into the gutter.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 14, 2023 6:34 am

I’ll think you find the the Capital is Wellington. Auckland is good for sailing. Probably the only thing.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 14, 2023 6:39 am

So it is GR!

Anchor What
Anchor What
April 14, 2023 6:40 am

Zinc, hyroxychloroquine, ivermectin.
All ignored or demonised by the “Health Authorities”, governments and running dog media.
Result: faith in authorities destroyed.
Now they want us to take boosters despite increasing evidence of damage caused by mRNA vaccines.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 14, 2023 6:58 am

What was the excuse for the Russians murdering 22,000 Polish officers at Katyn before the Germans even invaded?

Remind me again why Britain and France, who declared war on Germany because of the invasion of Poland, didn’t declare war on Russia when the Russians invaded Poland.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 14, 2023 7:00 am

Amazing how many cities now tolerate aggressive and often dangerous bums camping in doorways and panhandling all day. “They’re sick” is the response in these enlightened times.

So bring back loonie bins.

Beertruk
Beertruk
April 14, 2023 7:03 am

Top Endersays:
April 14, 2023 at 6:23 am

I am off to Un Zud on Tuesday to visit the MIL at Papkura. There are a few ‘street people’ in down town Papakura asking for money while smoking a durry and looking like they need to go on a diet and lose more than a few kgs.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 14, 2023 7:08 am

Result: faith in authorities destroyed.

I have to say health authorities have been getting pretty weird lately.

Male doctor stopped from donating blood to NHS after he refused to say if he’s pregnant (13 Apr)

A male GP was turned away from donating blood to the Scottish NHS after he refused to confirm whether or not he was pregnant. Steffen McAndrew, 41, said he had been turned away from a blood donation centre in Ayr, Scotland, after refusing to answer a “bonkers” question about if he was carrying a baby. He says he was told by a nurse he could not donate blood unless he confirmed he was not pregnant.

I suppose it’s logical if they can’t now tell you what a woman they also don’t know what a man is either.

Dot
Dot
April 14, 2023 7:10 am

The Cof E has a stranglehold on this coronation stuff and could – if they discovered they had balls – stop the process in it’s tracks.
Stay tuned….

They wouldn’t dare. Parliament chooses monarchs if it wants to and it also chooses their religion.

Trying to enforce an admittedly discriminatory policy that very few people support now is simply asking for disestablishment and the royals to stop being crypto Catholics and go back into the Catholic fold.

Who knows? Charles might think he’s a druid.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 14, 2023 7:11 am

From overnight:

My late mother-in-law was a young woman at the end of WWII and told me about the Red Army’s rampage across Europe and how young girls and women up until fifty had to be hidden to avoid being raped. Yep, memories are long and have been passed on to the younger generations. Russians do not have a good reputation for a reason.

Neither do the Chermans, and there aren’t enough pixels to list the atrocities they committed in the name of ideology disguised as lebensraum.

The Eastern Front in WWII was baddies vs baddies writ large.

Dot
Dot
April 14, 2023 7:12 am

I tried cohenite.

I really tried to like that home.

Modernism can’t do good exteriors and the interior has some good points but it seems soulless.

At least they understand great architecture needs good landscaping and that complements to ocean views to their credit.

Dot
Dot
April 14, 2023 7:16 am

The Russians had by that stage been fighting for 4 years. They were, near the end of ’41, on the verge of being annihilated by the Germans

I said something along the same lines and it was considered very controversial!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 14, 2023 7:18 am

TE did you notice in the bottom of the South Island there were not many fatties. I did.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 14, 2023 7:20 am

Dot charles thinks he’s a tampon.

P
P
April 14, 2023 7:21 am

‘No one is to be treated as subhuman’: Nuremberg prosecutor Benjamin Ferencz dies at age 103

Born in central Romania in 1920 to illiterate parents, Ferencz grew up in New York City after the family emigrated to escape antisemitism. He trained as a lawyer at Harvard and later fought for the U.S. in World War II. His legal experience led him to become a war crimes investigator, and he was recruited as a prosecutor for the Nuremberg Trials in 1946. Most of those Nazi officials whose prosecutions he secured were sentenced to death, even though Ferencz had not asked for the death penalty.

Dot
Dot
April 14, 2023 7:21 am

Pranksters Vovan and Lexus posing as Zelensky tricked ECB President Christine Lagarde into disclosing her plan to launch a “Digital Euro” in October that will give central banks control over how citizens can spend money:
“There will be control. You’re right. You’re completely right. We are considering whether for very small amounts, you know, anything that is around 300, 400 €, we could have a mechanism where there is zero control. But that could be dangerous…
I don’t want Europe to be dependent on an unfriendly country’s currency, for instance, you know, the Chinese currency, the Russian currency… I don’t want Meta, Google, or Amazon to suddenly come up with a currency that would take over the sovereignty of Europe.”

This needs WAY more attention. It is hard to find on Google because they’re pro-Putin.

(Sorry Chrissy, Vlad, Volod, Joe, Manny, Albo, Hipkinnykin, Poo Bear….there already exists BTC, ETH, LTC and others are trying digitised hard assets. Your central banks may become obsolete).

Dot
Dot
April 14, 2023 7:23 am

Dot charles thinks he’s a tampon.

Maybe he and his newly elevated Queen Camilla can form a syncretic version of gnosticism and vampiric late 19th century romanticism.

Dot
Dot
April 14, 2023 7:24 am

Pranksters Vovan and Lexus posing as Zelensky tricked ECB President Christine Lagarde into disclosing her plan to launch a “Digital Euro” in October that will give central banks control over how citizens can spend money:

Everyone ought to adopt crypto currencies and digitised assets ASAP.

calli
calli
April 14, 2023 7:25 am

Going to have to keep an eye on the windows this morning…crappy slices and hooks for sure.

The ATO Superannuation Guarantee squad are having a “fun” day. 😀

Crossie
Crossie
April 14, 2023 7:26 am

Dot says:
April 14, 2023 at 7:10 am
The Cof E has a stranglehold on this coronation stuff and could – if they discovered they had balls – stop the process in it’s tracks.
Stay tuned….
They wouldn’t dare. Parliament chooses monarchs if it wants to and it also chooses their religion.

It’s not that they wouldn’t dare, they don’t care. CofE is now pretty much a pagan religion with one of the previous archbishops saying he didn’t even believe in God. They are now just ceremonial and very flexible.

Cassie of Sydney
April 14, 2023 7:27 am

“On our way out of the centre of the CBD where we are staying we will have to pass the “street people” as they are called here. Of course we have grown to know and love them. Not!

Amazing how many cities now tolerate aggressive and often dangerous bums camping in doorways and panhandling all day. “They’re sick” is the response in these enlightened times.”

“Street people” (a somewhat benign description for drug addicted bums living on the street) are now a blight across many cities across the West. Well known cities on the US West Coast are now saddled with this problem of “street people”, particularly San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, San Diego and Los Angeles, and in the process these cities are being destroyed. “Street People” are akin to barnacles that encrust themselves to boats, it isn’t just that they are unsightly, they are menacing and dangerous, they are havens for drugs, disease and crime, and they destroy neighbourhoods because, just like with barnacles, they eat away at the very foundations of cities. But you want to know what is a common thread for these “street people”? It’s leftist/progressive city governance which is behind this phenomenon and it is this that directly enables and encourages “street people”. Auckland, since 2022, has right of centre city governance after over a decade of leftist governance. Hopefully they can now deal with the problem but it will take strong action and an ability to refuse to kowtow to the left wailings. But why does the left encourage street people? Well, Christopher Rufo spent a few years chronicling the decline of America’s once beautiful west coast cities such as Seattle and Portland. As he’s outlined, allowing tent cities of street people in central business districts or in inner-city suburbs the freedom to urinate, defecate, fornicate, and shoot up on footpaths, near homes, schools and most importantly near businesses, is all part of the left’s plan to destroy civil society. None of this is accidental. Expect more of this in Australia. Here in Sydney we had a taste of this a few years ago, and the Sydney example shows what happens when a progressive city government refuses to deal with this problem of “street people”. What happens is that if you turn a blind eye to one tent, soon there’ll be ten tents, then fifty, then a hundred and so on. They’re like fungi after rain and just as nasty and unsightly. Back in late 2016, tents began to appear in Sydney’s Martin Place (on top of Martin Place station) and in Belmore Park across from Central Station. The tents grew in numbers. The Malcolm Guardian referred to them obliquely as a “homeless camp”…LOL. Anyway, the tent city in Martin Place became a menace for commuters, they were ugly and filthy….BUT….the eternally hideous Clover Moore, who also happens to be the eternal Lord Mayor of Sydney (no one can get rid of her), and her mincy grovelling minions, refused point blank to deal with the problem. Why not? Because this is all part of their “progressive mindset”. It took Gladys and the state government to send the police to remove them in 2017.

However, I suspect Clover and her minions wouldn’t like it if it was in their backyard. I’ve long said that if it ever happens again (and it will) some of us should head to the tent cities and urge the inhabitants to head to Point Piper (where Mal the Miserable lives) and to Surry Hills (where Clover lives) and set up their “homeless camps”. Point Piper is very nice at any time of year, it’s right on the water with wonderful views, and Surry Hills is lovely, with tree lined streets and fabulous cafes where trendy inner-city hypocrites live and socialise. They can experience this progressive nirvana of “homeless camps” because nothing will change until the shit is placed squarely in their own backyards.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 14, 2023 7:28 am

The Soviets were sitting ducks for the Germans as they’d destroyed the command structure of the Red Army by purging the competent non political officers and replacing them with ‘right thinking’ apparatchiks.
Show trials were held to set examples and ensure blind adherence to the regimes policies……..Hang on a minute.

Dot
Dot
April 14, 2023 7:34 am

The internet is still like the wild west, apparently Camilla and Madonna are related…

Was Camilla’s ancestor actually Edward VII’s child?

There could be something more to this “oh she’s a real royal, actually and will sit on the throne as Queen” other than Charles’ ongoing devotion.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 14, 2023 7:39 am

“Street people” (a somewhat benign description for drug addicted bums living on the street) are now a blight across many cities across the West

There was a thankfully brief period in the NT where they were described in the papers, and in fashionable circles as ‘vulnerable people’.

Vulnerable to what, I wasn’t sure because they were (and are) damned near indestructible. The sobriquet was dropped after repeated instances of those people demonstrating that the ordinary punters walking past them in the streets were in fact the vulnerable ones, because they kept attacking them when sufficient cash wasn’t handed out.

Cassie of Sydney
April 14, 2023 7:41 am

“Neither do the Chermans, and there aren’t enough pixels to list the atrocities they committed in the name of ideology disguised as lebensraum.”

Correct. Sometimes I think that some here either have zero idea of history or just occasionally like to lose their marbles, particularly the person who last night wrote here that they “felt some sympathy for Hitler and the Germans in 1939“.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 14, 2023 7:48 am

Someone in the MSM might want to ask Bowen about this:

China doubles down on coal ahead of potential summer blackouts (13 Apr)

China plans to accelerate the approval of new coal mines and fast track the construction of already approved mines to support its baseload energy supply during demand spikes, Liang Changxin, an official from the National Energy Administration (NEA), said on Wednesday.

Peak energy demand is expected to exceed 1.36 billion kilowatts this summer, representing a “significant increase on last year”, Liang added.

And also ask Bandt whether he can get them to cease doing this, since he is so enthusiastic about stopping new coal mines here.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 14, 2023 7:48 am

particularly the person who last night wrote here that they “felt some sympathy for Hitler and the Germans in 1939“

Wait for it.

‘I was only joking. None of you ignorant people can see a joke.’

And/or:

‘Oooooh, I would never.’

calli
calli
April 14, 2023 7:48 am

On so-called “street people” here is PJW’s latest.

Scott Adams was right. That’s why they hate him so much.

Incidentally, it’s almost impossible to google PJW’s youtube channel and find it first hit (unless there’s something awry with my settings).

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 14, 2023 7:49 am

What was the excuse for the Russians murdering 22,000 Polish officers at Katyn before the Germans even invaded?

Umm… the Katyn Forest massacres began in 1940.

Dot
Dot
April 14, 2023 7:56 am

However, I suspect Clover and her minions wouldn’t like it if it was in their backyard. I’ve long said that if it ever happens again (and it will) some of us should head to the tent cities and urge the inhabitants to head to Point Piper (where Mal the Miserable lives) and to Surry Hills (where Clover lives) and set up their “homeless camps”. Point Piper is very nice at any time of year, it’s right on the water with wonderful views, and Surry Hills is lovely, with tree lined streets and fabulous cafes where trendy inner-city hypocrites live and socialise. They can experience this progressive nirvana of “homeless camps” because nothing will change until the shit is placed squarely in their own backyards.

A bus like Ken Kesey owned will ensure freakouts in the right places. A Merry Band of Tricksters.

Cassie of Sydney
April 14, 2023 7:59 am

“lotocotisays:
April 14, 2023 at 7:49 am
What was the excuse for the Russians murdering 22,000 Polish officers at Katyn before the Germans even invaded?

Umm… the Katyn Forest massacres began in 1940.”

Yep. Germany invaded Poland on September 1, 1939.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 14, 2023 8:01 am

Indolentsays:
April 13, 2023 at 11:06 pm
Robert Sepehr
@robertsepehr

DNA results of Takabuti, the famous 2,600 year old ancient Egyptian mummy on display at the Ulster Museum, show that her DNA is more genetically similar to Europeans rather than modern Egyptian populations. DNA results Published in Nature Communications: https://nature.com/articles/s41598-020-74114-9

Now, how much influence might a large influx of population from the Arabian Peninsula from around the 7th Century AD onwards have had?

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 14, 2023 8:08 am

What was the excuse for the Russians murdering 22,000 Polish officers at Katyn before the Germans even invaded?

Umm… the Katyn Forest massacres began in 1940.

He clearly meant *before* the main event started.

calli
calli
April 14, 2023 8:13 am

Takabuti was also a redhead. And she was murdered.

Pogria
Pogria
April 14, 2023 8:13 am

Mary Quant has passed.
Ladies of a certain age will remember her divine and fun fashions. 😉
One of my happiest memories when I was around eleven was receiving a pair of white Go-Go boots for my birthday. They weren’t Mary Quant, but they were great!

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 14, 2023 8:17 am

Yep. Germany invaded Poland on September 1, 1939.

No shit, Sherlock. Then the Russians invaded on 17th September. Poland happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Between two belligerent, dictator run, large powers who both knew they were going to fight each other in the not too distant future. Neither could afford to have the Poles ally with the other. Historically the Poles weren’t exactly lily white either but on their behalf the world plunged into war which resulted in ALL of Poland being handed to the Russians. Great result, huh?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 14, 2023 8:21 am

The Pentagon secrets leaker is 21 year old National guard!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 14, 2023 8:22 am

Takabuti was also a redhead. And she was murdered.

She, Anne Boleyn and Cleopatra all obviously should be played by black actors then.

Netflix Debuts Cleopatra Docuseries Trailer Depicting the Queen as Black (13 Apr)

At least she isn’t being played by a tranny, there’s that. With all this historical guff floating around right now it’s no wonder that students are confused and ignorant.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 14, 2023 8:23 am
Zipster
Zipster
April 14, 2023 8:26 am
bons
bons
April 14, 2023 8:26 am

The tent city violance in SF is triggering my lady who was a college student there during the ‘Summer of Love’.
I dare not play any of the ‘beautiful people’ extolling hits from that era for fear of her melting down.
Hippy SF according to her was a hellscape. Her university virtually ground to a halt due to academics joining the idiocy, beaches and restaurant strips were populated by filthy, stoned caftan wearing panhandlers who were, at best, threatening and often violent.
SF cops, not known for their gentle application of law enforcement, gave up trying to cope. Hippy chicks would regularly drape themselves around beat cops effectively neutralising them.
“Don’t mention the hippies”. At least not in this household.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 14, 2023 8:27 am

The Pentagon secrets leaker is 21 year old National guard!

Actually that kid seems only to be the administrator of the message board the docs were posted to, not the leaker himself, who hasn’t been found yet. They may be one and the same person, but I’m not getting that impression. I could easily be wrong. I suspect the Pentagon is under a lot of pressure to have someone to show off, so it makes sense they’d grab the administrator as an easy catch.

Cassie of Sydney
April 14, 2023 8:28 am

“No shit, Sherlock. Then the Russians invaded on 17th September. Poland happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Between two belligerent, dictator run, large powers who both knew they were going to fight each other in the not too distant future. Neither could afford to have the Poles ally with the other. Historically the Poles weren’t exactly lily white either but on their behalf the world plunged into war which resulted in ALL of Poland being handed to the Russians. Great result, huh?”

Huh! Last night you were expressing some sympathy for dictator Hitler and Germany’s actions in 1939?

Cassie of Sydney
April 14, 2023 8:29 am

“Mary Quant has passed.”

My mother had an original Quant dress. I also remember Australia’s very own Mary Quant….Prue Acton.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 14, 2023 8:36 am

I’m now part of Victorian Farmers Federation (VFF) task force to coordinate action regarding these recently announced transmission lines that have been dumped onto the rural community to provide Certainty* to the investor class.

*Crony Capitalism.

Johnny Rotten
April 14, 2023 8:38 am

A young man was looking for a place to sit in a crowded university library.

He asked a girl: “Do you mind if I sit beside you?” The girl replied in a loud voice… “NO, I DON’T WANT TO SPEND THE NIGHT WITH YOU!”

All the people in the library started staring at him. He was deeply embarrassed and moved to another table.

After a couple of minutes, the girl walked quietly over to his table and said with a laugh: “I study psychology, and I know what a man is thinking. I bet you felt embarrassed, right?” He responded in a very loud voice: “$1500 FOR ONE NIGHT? I’M NOT PAYING YOU THAT!”

All the people in the library looked at the girl in shock. Then he whispered to her: “I study law, and I know how to really screw people”.

Johnny Rotten
April 14, 2023 8:38 am

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

– H. L. Mencken

calli
calli
April 14, 2023 8:39 am

Go go boots! How I longed for a pair, but there was no money, sadly.

The makeup, the simple shift frocks, the slightly teased hairstyles and bobble earrings. And a big bow on the back of a half ponytail.

Good times, optimistic, positive times for teenagers.

calli
calli
April 14, 2023 8:40 am

Johnny, that’s the best joke you’ve told in a year. More of the same please.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 14, 2023 8:45 am

Nothing to see here.
Just those canny Scotchlandian National Socialists saving a few groats
by have just one form.
Probably.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 14, 2023 8:45 am

Here’s the report I read about the arrest:

FBI catching up | Power Line (13 Apr)

“The New York Times has seven bylines on its story identifying Massachusetts Air National Guardsman Jack Teixeira as “[t]he leader of a small online gaming chat group where a trove of classified U.S. intelligence documents leaked over the last few months.” That would be the group to which the leaker — Mr. OG — belonged, per the Washington Post this morning. At any rate, Teixeira dos not seem to conform to the Post’s description of Mr. OG. OG or not OG, that is the question.

The Times now reports that the FBI has arrested Teixeira. OG remains at large.”

On the other hand other reports suggest Teixeira was working in intelligence, which could give him access to such things.

Crossie
Crossie
April 14, 2023 8:48 am

“Street people” (a somewhat benign description for drug addicted bums living on the street) are now a blight across many cities across the West.

When I was in Berlin in October 2019 I saw the same blight on that city. The area around the Brandenburg Gate was clear but the park opposite the museum that was the Reichstag was a tent city. The park was overgrown and dirty and visitors kept away from it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 14, 2023 8:49 am

Huh! Last night you were expressing some sympathy for dictator Hitler and Germany’s actions in 1939?

Hallward!
Say it ain’t so!
Nazi sympathiser?

Razey
Razey
April 14, 2023 8:49 am

Dont worry everyone, Elbo has a plan………………

Crossie
Crossie
April 14, 2023 8:51 am

Pogria says:
April 14, 2023 at 8:13 am
Mary Quant has passed.
Ladies of a certain age will remember her divine and fun fashions. ?
One of my happiest memories when I was around eleven was receiving a pair of white Go-Go boots for my birthday. They weren’t Mary Quant, but they were great!

I had a pair of white Go-Go boots when I was fifteen. I worked a whole two-week school holiday to be able to buy them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 14, 2023 8:53 am

Razey-san!
See you in Japan in October!
They are letting in anyone now, even pure-bloods!

Vagabond
Vagabond
April 14, 2023 8:55 am

“Neither do the Chermans, and there aren’t enough pixels to list the atrocities they committed in the name of ideology disguised as lebensraum.”

Quite right. One of the tragedies of WW2 was that the A Bomb was developed just a bit too late to be used on Germany. The bastards really deserved it.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 14, 2023 8:56 am

Huh! Last night you were expressing some sympathy for dictator Hitler and Germany’s actions in 1939?
In light of the Polish mouthing off and sabre rattling going on at present. Where are the Polish calls for negotiations and cease fire in Ukraine? They don’t even have a border with Russia apart from the Kaliningrad enclave and that is more threatened by the Poles and the Baltic States than Russia is threatening Poland.
I have no sympathy for the current American invoked Euro cluster. It will likely get the world in much more trouble than it already has and the Poles aren’t helping.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 14, 2023 8:57 am

I did read that the NKVD killers spared the jewish Officers.
I’ll try to find a link for that.

Crossie
Crossie
April 14, 2023 8:58 am

Bourne1879 says:
April 14, 2023 at 8:21 am
The Pentagon secrets leaker is 21 year old National guard!

Even if he was not the leaker but the messenger it still begs the question, who is watching the people with access to sensitive information. I have a feeling that all the US surveillance resources are aimed at Republican voters and Catholics. Clear field for spies and traitors.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 14, 2023 8:59 am

GreyRanga says:…did you notice in the bottom of the South Island there were not many fatties. I did.

Yes indeed. The South Island of NZ appears to be non-woke and normal, at least in the areas we went to, which was Queenstown then down to the extreme south, and up the east coast for the air show at Blenheim. Very pleasant with beautiful scenery.

Callie’s writing above is loquacious and accurate as usual. There seems to be a hidden agenda in allowing derros to live on the streets because that’s how to “reform society” according to a Left agenda. But that doesn’t include drug-addicted “street people” to live in the fashionable suburbs.

Auckland didn’t have many police on the streets. Maybe they’ve given up.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 14, 2023 9:00 am

Quite right. One of the tragedies of WW2 was that the A Bomb was developed just a bit too late to be used on Germany. The bastards really deserved it.

WW2 is what you get when you don’t have nukes. If the belligerents in WW2 had all had nukes it likely would not have started.
We’ll find out soon though whether nukes prevent WW3.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 14, 2023 9:02 am
Ed Case
Ed Case
April 14, 2023 9:05 am

Even if he was not the leaker but the messenger it still begs the question, who is watching the people with access to sensitive information.
Shoot the messenger?
That’s not even the issue.
The issue is, if the leaks are legit, that the Ukes never had a hope and the U.S. can pull the plug on the war anytime.

Rabz
April 14, 2023 9:05 am

Mary Quant – groovy, baby. Classic mod fashion.

Here’s the Twiggster in some of Quant’s gear – not sure why one of the sneakers’ soles is almost twice the height of the other.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 14, 2023 9:06 am

‘Race shifting’ casts long shadow over cultural identity
Claire Lehmann

12:00AM April 14, 2023
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The 2021 census found the number of people identifying as Aboriginal in Australia had increased 25 per cent over a five-year period.

The huge uptick could not be explained by an Aboriginal baby boom, but the result of an increase in people claiming Aboriginal identity later in life, possibly after discovering a long-lost Aboriginal ancestor, or some other link to Indigenous heritage. According to the ABS, the uptick in Aboriginal-identified population has not occurred in the Northern Territory, but in the big cities on the east coast.

The establishment of the Indigenous voice to parliament may drive these numbers higher again. While some have described the increase as a “wonderful thing”, others are not so sanguine. Some community leaders argue that funding opportunities and jobs go to those who falsely claim to be Aboriginal, as opposed to those who are authentically Indigenous.

Nathan Moran, chief executive of the Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council, told 2GB last year: “We’ve now got a large proportion, if not a quarter of our population, (who) have chosen to self-identify rather than being born as Aboriginal to take up benefits of housing, scholarships, universities, employment opportunities and programs that are targeted for us to overcome our disadvantage.

Victoria Grieve-Williams, an Aboriginal scholar and researcher into Indigenous identity fraud, describes such people as “race shifters”. They tend to be “well educated and articulate” and “oriented to getting awards, scholarships, benefits, and financial assistance”, she wrote in The Australian in 2021.

Since the 1980s, the commonwealth has applied a three-part test to determine Aboriginal identity whereby a person must be of Aboriginal descent, must identify as Aboriginal, and be accepted by an Aboriginal community. But the explosion of Aboriginal identity appears to sidestep this test, with those claiming the identity later in life relying on self-identification only.

While the three-part test is frequently dodged by individuals claiming Aboriginal identity, it is often ignored by organisations as well. Indigenous representation is highly sought after in business, academia and the public service, which leads companies and organisations to welcome “box-tickers” with open arms.

Pambalong woman Kumarah Kelly, CEO of Awabakal Local Aboriginal Corporation, told SBS Australia last year: “We’re seeing people participating in cultural site surveys for the protection of artefacts and sacred sites. They’re making $1500 a day. Where did they get that cultural knowledge from?”

Dr Stephen Hagan, a Kullilli man from Queensland, also told SBS that those claiming fraudulent Aboriginal identity are protected. “They can sign a statutory declaration (to confirm they self-identify) and they’re in. They can take on a $200,000 job anywhere they want.”

The phenomenon is not unique to Australia. Last year Canada’s CBC aired a documentary titled “The Pretendians”, which follows a First Nations Canadian author as she explores the trend of white people claiming indigenous status. “Is it all about money and jobs, or is there something deeper going on?” she asks the audience.

It appears there is something deeper going on. Indigeneity, whether in Canada or Australia, while historically marginalised and stigmatised, now comes with unique cultural status. While “whiteness” is often negatively associated with the evils of colonialism and racism, indigeneity is positively associated with the qualities of spiritualism, ancestral lands and cultural wisdom.

It’s easy to dismiss those opportunistically claiming Aboriginal status for material gain as cynical race hustlers. But for those who genuinely feel affinity with Aboriginal culture the issue is not so clear cut. Should a desire to identify with a culture be immediately invalidated because a person has light skin or is from an urban background? The ethics are complex.

theaustralian.com.au03:46
SBS uses ‘heavily contested’ Indigenous man Bruce Pascoe for comment on ‘fake’ Aboriginals

In 2017, a philosopher named Rebecca Tuvel attracted worldwide attention when she published a paper arguing that if society accepts transgenderism then, on the same basis of reasoning, it ought to accept transracialism as well. The paper was inspired by a real case: Rachel Dolezal, an instructor in Africana studies at Eastern Washington University, and who identified as mixed-race, was publicly shamed when her white parents accused her of pretending to be black. Dolezal later admitted to being “white and born to white parents” but argued that her self-identification as a black woman was real, and that her transracial status ought to be respected.

In her paper, Tuvel grapples with the arguments against transracialism, and argues that each of these arguments (that it is offensive, it is an example of privilege, and it is not biologically possible to change one’s race) could also be used against transgenderism if extended to their logical conclusion.

And in the context of gender, self-identification is now widely accepted. In Victoria, for example, an individual born biologically male with XY chromosomes can change their recorded sex to female on the basis of self-ID only. No surgery or psychiatric diagnosis is required.

These philosophical issues may seem arcane and abstract, and only worthy of debate in academic journals. But when claims to power are involved, the stakes become much higher. The reality is that if the voice succeeds, it is likely the number of Australians identifying as Aboriginal will increase further. It is also likely the issue of self-ID will become increasingly divisive.

Claire Lehmann is the founding editor of Quillette

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 14, 2023 9:07 am

The 2021 census found the number of people identifying as Aboriginal in Australia had increased 25 per cent over a five-year period.

The huge uptick could not be explained by an Aboriginal baby boom, but the result of an increase in people claiming Aboriginal identity later in life, possibly after discovering a long-lost Aboriginal ancestor, or some other link to Indigenous heritage. According to the ABS, the uptick in Aboriginal-identified population has not occurred in the Northern Territory, but in the big cities on the east coast.

The establishment of the Indigenous voice to parliament may drive these numbers higher again. While some have described the increase as a “wonderful thing”, others are not so sanguine. Some community leaders argue that funding opportunities and jobs go to those who falsely claim to be Aboriginal, as opposed to those who are authentically Indigenous.

Nathan Moran, chief executive of the Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council, told 2GB last year: “We’ve now got a large proportion, if not a quarter of our population, (who) have chosen to self-identify rather than being born as Aboriginal to take up benefits of housing, scholarships, universities, employment opportunities and programs that are targeted for us to overcome our disadvantage.”

Victoria Grieve-Williams, an Aboriginal scholar and researcher into Indigenous identity fraud, describes such people as “race shifters”. They tend to be “well educated and articulate” and “oriented to getting awards, scholarships, benefits, and financial assistance”, she wrote in The Australian in 2021.

Since the 1980s, the commonwealth has applied a three-part test to determine Aboriginal identity whereby a person must be of Aboriginal descent, must identify as Aboriginal, and be accepted by an Aboriginal community. But the explosion of Aboriginal identity appears to sidestep this test, with those claiming the identity later in life relying on self-identification only.

While the three-part test is frequently dodged by individuals claiming Aboriginal identity, it is often ignored by organisations as well. Indigenous representation is highly sought after in business, academia and the public service, which leads companies and organisations to welcome “box-tickers” with open arms.

Pambalong woman Kumarah Kelly, CEO of Awabakal Local Aboriginal Corporation, told SBS Australia last year: “We’re seeing people participating in cultural site surveys for the protection of artefacts and sacred sites. They’re making $1500 a day. Where did they get that cultural knowledge from?”

Dr Stephen Hagan, a Kullilli man from Queensland, also told SBS that those claiming fraudulent Aboriginal identity are protected. “They can sign a statutory declaration (to confirm they self-identify) and they’re in. They can take on a $200,000 job anywhere they want.”

The phenomenon is not unique to Australia. Last year Canada’s CBC aired a documentary titled “The Pretendians”, which follows a First Nations Canadian author as she explores the trend of white people claiming indigenous status. “Is it all about money and jobs, or is there something deeper going on?” she asks the audience.

It appears there is something deeper going on. Indigeneity, whether in Canada or Australia, while historically marginalised and stigmatised, now comes with unique cultural status. While “whiteness” is often negatively associated with the evils of colonialism and racism, indigeneity is positively associated with the qualities of spiritualism, ancestral lands and cultural wisdom.

It’s easy to dismiss those opportunistically claiming Aboriginal status for material gain as cynical race hustlers. But for those who genuinely feel affinity with Aboriginal culture the issue is not so clear cut. Should a desire to identify with a culture be immediately invalidated because a person has light skin or is from an urban background? The ethics are complex.

In 2017, a philosopher named Rebecca Tuvel attracted worldwide attention when she published a paper arguing that if society accepts transgenderism then, on the same basis of reasoning, it ought to accept transracialism as well. The paper was inspired by a real case: Rachel Dolezal, an instructor in Africana studies at Eastern Washington University, and who identified as mixed-race, was publicly shamed when her white parents accused her of pretending to be black. Dolezal later admitted to being “white and born to white parents” but argued that her self-identification as a black woman was real, and that her transracial status ought to be respected.

In her paper, Tuvel grapples with the arguments against transracialism, and argues that each of these arguments (that it is offensive, it is an example of privilege, and it is not biologically possible to change one’s race) could also be used against transgenderism if extended to their logical conclusion.

And in the context of gender, self-identification is now widely accepted. In Victoria, for example, an individual born biologically male with XY chromosomes can change their recorded sex to female on the basis of self-ID only. No surgery or psychiatric diagnosis is required.

These philosophical issues may seem arcane and abstract, and only worthy of debate in academic journals. But when claims to power are involved, the stakes become much higher. The reality is that if the voice succeeds, it is likely the number of Australians identifying as Aboriginal will increase further. It is also likely the issue of self-ID will become increasingly divisive.

Claire Lehmann is the founding editor of Quillette

Oz. I am going to make a comment – bet it doesn’t get past their censors:

One of the oddest things about “discrimination against black people” is that it infers prejudiced behaviour against people because of their colour – that is, the actual colour of their skin being a very visible marker they are different. If you like, it’s a label.

But now increasingly people can claim they are “black” and their skin is the same shade as those who would label themselves as white. This is illogical. How are they being discriminated against?

Rabz
April 14, 2023 9:08 am

We’ll find out soon though whether nukes prevent WW3.

As someone noted yesterday, the longer they’re around the more chance there is of some lunatics using them.

See for example Russia, China and those medieval morons in Iran.

Zipster
Zipster
April 14, 2023 9:08 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 14, 2023 9:09 am

Hersh: CIA Knows Zelensky & Top Generals Are Skimming Hundreds Of Millions In US Aid

BY TYLER DURDEN

On Wednesday, Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh published a report on Substack that alleged the CIA was aware of widespread corruption in Ukraine and the embezzlement of US aid.

The report said the Ukrainian government has been using US taxpayer money to purchase diesel from Russia to fuel its military. Hersh said Zelensky “has been buying the fuel from Russia, the country with which it, and Washington, are at war, and the Ukrainian president and many in his entourage have been skimming untold millions from the American dollars earmarked for diesel fuel payments.”

Hersh said according to one estimate by CIA analysts, at least $400 million in funds were embezzled last year. Sources told Hersh that Ukrainian officials are also “competing” to set up front companies for export contracts to private arms dealers around the world.

The issue of corruption was raised during a meeting between CIA Director William Burns and Zelensky in January. An intelligence official with direct knowledge of the meeting told Hersh that Burns delivered a stunning message to Zelensky.

Hersh wrote: “The senior generals and government officials in Kiev were angry at what they saw as Zelensky’s greed, so Burns told the Ukrainian president, because ‘he was taking a larger share of the skim money than was going to the generals.’”

During the meeting, Burns presented Zelensky with a list of 35 generals and senior government officials whose corruption was known to the CIA. Zelensky responded by dismissing 10 officials who were engaged in flagrant corruption.

“The ten he got rid of were brazenly bragging about the money they had—driving around Kiev in their new Mercedes,” the intelligence official said.

Hersh said Zelensky’s “half-hearted response” and the “lack of concern” in the White House angered some US intelligence officials.

The intelligence official speaking to Hersh criticized President Biden’s two main foreign policy advisors, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan.

“They have no experience, judgment, and moral integrity. They just tell lies, make up stories. Diplomatic deniability is something else,” the official said. The official said there was a “total breakdown between the White House leadership and the intelligence community.”

The report said the rift started in the fall when the Nord Stream natural gas pipelines were blown up. According to Hersh’s earlier reporting, President Biden ordered the operation that took out the pipelines. “Destroying the Nord Stream pipelines was never discussed, or even known in advance, by the community,” the official said.

The official said there is “no strategy for ending the war” within the Biden administration and offered more scathing criticism of Blinken and Sullivan.

“Burns is not the problem,” the official said.

“The problem is Biden and his principal lieutenants—Blinken and Sullivan and their court of worshippers—who see those who criticize Zelensky as being pro-Putin.

‘We are against evil. Ukraine will fight ’til the last military shell is gone, and still fight.’ And here’s Biden who is telling America that we’re going to fight as long as it takes.”

Meanwhile, for a deeper look at just who is propping up Ukraine’s budget to the tune of hundreds of billions, see more below…

Indolent
Indolent
April 14, 2023 9:12 am

It’s not that they wouldn’t dare, they don’t care. CofE is now pretty much a pagan religion with one of the previous archbishops saying he didn’t even believe in God. They are now just ceremonial and very flexible.

This was already made clear in Yes Minister back in the Eighties. Talk about truth in humour.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 14, 2023 9:12 am

Here’s an interesting alternate history (Harry Turtledove, pay attention):

The Nazis fail to get into power in 1933. Germany staggers along with ineffectual, incompetent government and doesn’t arm up in the last half of the 1930’s. Meanwhile Stalin, in a resurgent, arming, Soviet Union bides his time before launching the mother of all Britzkriegs across western Europe. All of western Europe is communist by 1943 right down to Spain and Portugal.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 14, 2023 9:12 am

NY Times reporting that Jack Teixeira was identified from the backgrounds to some of the photographed documents. It looks like the kiddie may have been more than just a webmaster.

If he’s the source, you’d have to wonder at a security system that pushes a stream of state secrets through the hands of a junior Air National Guard tech.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 14, 2023 9:13 am

George Alexopoulos toon 2.
Something Hogarth would recognise.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 14, 2023 9:17 am

We’ll find out soon though whether nukes prevent WW3.
As someone noted yesterday, the longer they’re around the more chance there is of some lunatics using them.
See for example Russia, China and those medieval morons in Iran.

So let’s get rid of them. I’m all ears. What is your plan? You left out India, Pakistan and North Korea BTW.
Correct, there is no plan and no possibility of one, so the idea is to keep the level of violence below the nuclear use threshold. Think Korea 1950, Vietnam etc etc.

Indolent
Indolent
April 14, 2023 9:18 am

We’ll find out soon though whether nukes prevent WW3.

Only if they don’t actually want a nuclear war, which I seriously doubt. They haven’t shut up about it for months.

Pogria
Pogria
April 14, 2023 9:18 am

Calli and Crossie,
my Go-Go boots were the absolute cheapest knock off’s money could buy, but I felt so grand! I wore them until they fell to pieces and no longer fitted my growing feet.
That was the only time as a youngster I had been given a completely frivolous gift.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 14, 2023 9:19 am

They haven’t shut up about it for months.

Who hasn’t?

Indolent
Indolent
April 14, 2023 9:20 am

Are The Leaked Pentagon Documents A CIA Scam?

That was Gonzalo Lira’s first response, and he has a pretty good nose. As they control the media, there must be a reason it’s getting so much coverage.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 14, 2023 9:20 am

Two children trapped in NYC apartment die in fire thanks to another exploding e-bike

The National Fire Protection Association is a globally-recognized nonprofit, and an authoritative source on fire prevention — the organization is often tapped by legislative bodies and administrative states for rules and regulations recommendations. Speaking to the danger of e-bikes, the NFPA writes the following:

Most e-bikes and e-scooters are powered by lithium-ion batteries. This is the same type of battery that powers many of today’s electric vehicles, cell phones, laptops, and power tools. When lithium-ion batteries are damaged, they can overheat, catch on fire, and even lead to explosions. When fires occur, they also tend to burn very hot and can be difficult for firefighters to extinguish.

While there are no national or international statistics on how often e-bikes or e-scooters catch on fire, it does happen with some regularity—and the numbers are rising.

As expected, “rising” numbers equate to real human sacrifice.

Whether the “green initiatives” support Biden’s pursuit of greenism or the World Economic Forum’s “sustainable solutions” like 15-minute cities, the left’s demands for the temple of climate alarmism afflicts us all — and there’s yet another tragic case to prove it.

On Monday, two Queens children perished in a fire caused by the lithium battery of an e-bike. According to John Hodgens, the chief of New York City’s fire department, and relayed via Yahoo News:

We got here very quickly – and if this was not an e-bike fire, most likely we would’ve been able to put this fire out without incident. But the way these fires occur, it’s like an explosion of fire.

An Associated Press news blip from about a month and a half ago notes:

Lithium ion batteries used to power electric bicycles and scooters have already sparked 22 fires that caused 36 injuries and two deaths in New York City this year, four times the number of fires linked to the batteries by this time last year, officials said Friday.

calli
calli
April 14, 2023 9:20 am

Something Hogarth would recognise.

Bud Street?

Rabz
April 14, 2023 9:22 am

the result of an increase in people claiming Aboriginal identity later in life, possibly after discovering a long-lost Aboriginal ancestor, or some other link to Indodgeynous heritage

Encourage staggeringly stupid behaviour and unsurprisingly, you’ll get more of it.

Tom
Tom
April 14, 2023 9:23 am

The huge uptick could not be explained by an Aboriginal baby boom, but the result of an increase in people claiming Aboriginal identity later in life, possibly after discovering a long-lost Aboriginal ancestor, or some other link to Indigenous heritage. According to the ABS, the uptick in Aboriginal-identified population has not occurred in the Northern Territory, but in the big cities on the east coast.

Just as anyone can now pump their bodies full of sex-change drugs and claim they’ve changed genders, white people can now call themselves Aboriginal to scam the financial benefits reserved for Aborigines.

That’s the left’s vision for Australia: a nation of white Abos policed by a violent street mob of male homosexuals dressed as women, killing or beating up anyone who doesn’t like it.

Rabz
April 14, 2023 9:24 am

What is your plan?

I’ve never claimed to have one. Just picking up on some observations made yesterday about the subject.

calli
calli
April 14, 2023 9:25 am

Scroll down the Axelopoulos Twitter feed and you’ll see an interesting comparison – NYC and Tokyo.

My overriding impression of Japan after a brief three week visit was one of respect – self respect, respect for others and for materials and possessions.

Of course there are dark aspects to Japanese culture, but they are hard to find. No culture is perfect and some are better than others in hiding away unsavoury characters and habits.

There was never a feeling of being “unsafe” there. Not once either in the big cities or countryside.

P
P
April 14, 2023 9:26 am

DOES THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND NEED EVANGELICALS?
by Carl R. Trueman
4 . 13 . 23

Does the Church of England need evangelicals? The question is now a pressing one, given that the last few months of chaos over the issue of gay marriage seem finally to have done what decades of doctrinal indifferentism and even the advent of women priests failed to achieve: an evangelical rebellion among the Church of England’s most committed evangelical congregations.

Traditional, orthodox Anglicans are about to meet in Rwanda in order to assess the global situation and further attenuate, perhaps even completely sever, links with the Church of England. One reason is that the African bishops see the West’s attempt to foist this liquefied anthropology upon the global church as yet another act of Western colonialism.

Indolent
Indolent
April 14, 2023 9:27 am

You mean when it doesn’t rain for a while? They really are clutching at straws.

Climate change making ‘flash droughts’ more common: study

Cassie of Sydney
April 14, 2023 9:28 am

“I did read that the NKVD killers spared the jewish Officers.
I’ll try to find a link for that.”

Please do, because I reckon you’ll struggle to find a link for that statement. About 8% of the officers murdered at Katin were Polish Jewish officers, and I am pretty sure there was also a contingent of Polish Lithuanian Tartar Muslim officers who were massacred too.

I know you’re trolling Dick Ed and I know you like to post incendiary drivel but your claim above is straight out of a 2023 edition of the Protocols.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 14, 2023 9:31 am

Ed Casesays:
April 14, 2023 at 8:57 am
I did read that the NKVD killers spared the jewish Officers.
I’ll try to find a link for that.

I am a little skeptical of this entire post.
Especially the last outlandish claim.

Indolent
Indolent
April 14, 2023 9:31 am

She really was an amazing author, whatever her background.

Anne Perry death: Crime author and real killer behind Heavenly Creatures dies aged 84

calli
calli
April 14, 2023 9:31 am

From Indolent’s link:

California lawmakers penned the new law that demands more action from social media companies to silence voices the state considers hate and harassment, claiming many of the deadly attacks nationwide share a common thread on social media.

The Bee is hardly “hate” and it does advertise itself as a satire site.

More “harassment” – to the powers that be. They hate to be laughed at, especially by Christians. Little Neros all of them.

Pogria
Pogria
April 14, 2023 9:31 am

Something Hogarth would recognise.

Bud Street?

Gin Lane.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 14, 2023 9:35 am

I’ll try to find a link for that.
Alternately..

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 14, 2023 9:36 am

Posted on Facebook’s Action for Alice 2020

And another goes ….

Today is my last permanent day in my home town. Sadly I am joining the exodus of Aboriginal and non Aboriginal families leaving what is now a very unsafe place and where anarchy rules. To the cohort of youth who are sadly running the town instilling fear and intimidation go and learn something (anything) about your culture or f*** off back to your home communities. We the Arrernte people do not want you here.

To the NT Government and your useless elected representatives.. grow some balls , stop playing politics, spin and lead. Your spin does not work here in central Australia as it does in Darwin. Where police warn law abiding citizens to avoid the CBD says it all. This is not some war ravaged 3rd world country. Having been a victim of crime on 3 occasions in two months I realised this is not the town I once loved.

Finally I say to all the white young and dumb university educated scum that have come here to save the poor black people from themselves (patronising paternalitic racist pieces of shit), f**** off back to your comfortable homes in the east coast. You’re dividing the town.

I’ve heard some very sad stories from both my Aboriginal friends and family and non indigenous friends about the impact this is having on their businesses and general well being. Sadly I do not have too much faith in things turning around.

So it’s goodbye and farewell. Im optimistic about my future endeavours in the deep south and I will pass through on occasions but staying is entirely out of the question

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 14, 2023 9:39 am

Sounds like Turnbull’s pumped-storage white elephant is turning into an even bigger white elephant.

New Snowy Hydro setback adds to billion-dollar blowout (Daily Tele, paywalled)

The massive tunnel boring machine which was stopped in its tracks in December has hit another setback in the multibillion-dollar Snowy Hydro 2.0 project.

Federal Energy Minister Chris Bowen is “deeply concerned” by delays on the Snowy Hydro 2.0 energy project, as it can be revealed a tunnel boring machine halted in its tracks since December resumed drilling briefly this month before stopping again.

That’s all I can get about it since I’m not a subscriber and I can’t find the story anywhere else. But if true the Snowy 2.0 scheme is going to blow out in time and cost even more.

calli
calli
April 14, 2023 9:39 am

Pogria, Hogarth’s Gin Lane has it’s Bud equivalent, Beer Street.

Roger
Roger
April 14, 2023 9:40 am

The Cof E has a stranglehold on this coronation stuff and could – if they discovered they had balls – stop the process in it’s tracks.

Erm…it doesn’t work like that.

One reason is that the African bishops see the West’s attempt to foist this liquefied anthropology upon the global church as yet another act of Western colonialism.

More importantly, they reject it as anti-biblical, as I’m sure Trueman would acknowledge.

P
P
April 14, 2023 9:40 am

This was already made clear in Yes Minister back in the Eighties. Talk about truth in humour.

Modernists in the Church

Dot
Dot
April 14, 2023 9:42 am

Hoffman’s distaste for Trump’s authoritarian and anti-democratic tendencies

Trump lessened many regulations on Americans and could not overrule Congress. He pulled out of wars and was a populist.

He could have done a lot more but he even considered over-criminalisation.

These people don’t like Trump because he’s in the “wrong” party.

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