Open Thread – Weekend 15 April 2023


A Game of Preference, Viktor Vasnetsov, 1879

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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Maybe the shooter actually made a good call, given the actual circumstances.

News reports say:
Police were given an address to attend.
They attended another address.
Approaching the (wrong) address they walked past the clearly illuminated house number.
Before doorknocking officers checked the address with their dispatcher.
The dispatcher clearly stated the actual address, which was not the address they were at.
Police then opened fire on the householder who responded to their doorknock.

The only just outcome is a death sentence for the officers.

cohenite
April 16, 2023 2:37 pm

When cohenite’s book titles go wrong.

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/41451858

My titles are much more tasteful.

Winston Smith
April 16, 2023 2:39 pm

Salvatore:

When pre-selecting a candidate, the committee meeting in my electorate was attended by a young pup from head office. Wearing a three-piece suit, this squirt ordered the electorate branch to pre-select a parachuted in candidate chosen by head office.
Considerable threats were made, plus the whippernsnapper told a room full of farmers that primary production was “the past” & they’d better “get with” tourism.
To a man the electorate committee left the meeting vowing to vote One Nation. The flow-on effect of respected pillars of the community recommending (in private) voting against the party, this cannot be understated.

Not exactly the same, but it rhymes:

He is a perfect symbol of a problem that afflicts high-end corporate and government culture: a shocking blindness toward the mainstream of Australian life, including working classes and other people less privileged.

(adapted to fit.)

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

calli says: April 16, 2023 at 12:18 pm
I ordered a small item from Melbourne on Wednesday. ETA next Thursday.

Anything ordered from Melbourne usually takes so long to arrive we’ve forgotten we ordered it.
Rare for anything to arrive from Melbourne in under a month, can be up to four months.

We order a lot from Paris (France): best delivery time, six days (for a tea chest of tea), average time, 10 days.
No mystery why I order from Paris instead of Melbourne.

Winston Smith
April 16, 2023 2:49 pm

Chris:

And then, we need to understand a bit more. Maybe the shooter actually made a good call, given the actual circumstances. I once praised fast action by the Police in London and ten minutes later we found they had executed an innocent South American backpacker.

I remember that one – London? was undergoing a few islamic suicide bombings and this South American illegal immigrant was dressed in similar gear. Coppers tried to arrest him and he ran for a crowded train station. All the things you’d expect a suicide bomber to do.
I’ll give the coppers their due – it took guts to tackle a bloke they thought was wearing a suicide vest he could detonate at any time. Tough call.
Stupid man. Had he stopped when challenged, he’d be alive today.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 2:49 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/04/atrocious.html

Number of notified cases of gonorrhea in children under 16.

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 16, 2023 2:50 pm

Professor Marcia Langton.
Such a cheery looking chap.

Aye, and as such, congratulations on winning the interwebs for today.
So much hate in her face. Hard work fleecing the taxpayer

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 16, 2023 2:54 pm

So much hate in her face.

Yes- typical commo. They hate hard work and honest dealing.

Chris
Chris
April 16, 2023 2:59 pm

Maybe the shooter actually made a good call, given the actual circumstances.

News reports say:
Police were given an address to attend.
They attended another address.
Approaching the (wrong) address they walked past the clearly illuminated house number.
Before doorknocking officers checked the address with their dispatcher.
The dispatcher clearly stated the actual address, which was not the address they were at.
Police then opened fire on the householder who responded to their doorknock.

The only just outcome is a death sentence for the officers.

Maybe.
If we can trust a media writer, who would of course not seek to inflame to get clicks.
On the other hand, its not out of the question that the householder was what Knuckle Dragger calls a frequent flyer, or who due perhaps to being a little ‘tired and emotional’, saw police and then responded inappropriately. If it were so I would expect that exculpatory information to be in the first announcement, so I really don’t know.

We will follow this case.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 16, 2023 3:02 pm

F8ckheads!

Can you believe this sh*t? Four wankers ( Bandt types ) exposed.

Congressman STUMPS Four Witnesses with Simple Question

John H.
John H.
April 16, 2023 3:07 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
April 16, 2023 at 2:44 pm
calli says: April 16, 2023 at 12:18 pm
I ordered a small item from Melbourne on Wednesday. ETA next Thursday.

Anything ordered from Melbourne usually takes so long to arrive we’ve forgotten we ordered it.
Rare for anything to arrive from Melbourne in under a month, can be up to four months.

We order a lot from Paris (France): best delivery time, six days (for a tea chest of tea), average time, 10 days.
No mystery why I order from Paris instead of Melbourne.

I was waiting for an item from Britain and did a trace. It had been stuck in a facility in Melbourne(DAIpost) for a fortnight. I contacted them and they said they would investigate. Last I ever heard from DAIpost. I was presumed it was lost so I contacted the seller who also presumed it was lost and sent me another, free of charge. Then the two items were delivered a week apart. When I order from the USA, no problem.

John H.
John H.
April 16, 2023 3:08 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
April 16, 2023 at 2:49 pm
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/04/atrocious.html

Number of notified cases of gonorrhea in children under 16.

Yep, I remembered that from way back. It was the proxy I had in mind. Funny how it never makes the news … .

Chris
Chris
April 16, 2023 3:08 pm

I remember that one – London? was undergoing a few islamic suicide bombings and this South American illegal immigrant was dressed in similar gear. Coppers tried to arrest him and he ran for a crowded train station. All the things you’d expect a suicide bomber to do.
I’ll give the coppers their due – it took guts to tackle a bloke they thought was wearing a suicide vest he could detonate at any time. Tough call.
Stupid man. Had he stopped when challenged, he’d be alive today.

My recollection, seared into my memory by publicly approving the killing a few minutes too soon, was that he was not an illegal immigrant, just a young tourist with a backpack dressed like a young tourist with a backpack; the inquest concluded that he had mistaken the very plainclothes coppers for muggers.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 16, 2023 3:10 pm

Via JC

This is apparent in what is called “pluralistic stakeholderism.” Among other things, this school of thought holds that companies must consider the effects of their choices on potentially infinite numbers of stakeholders, even to the point of requiring businesses to consult with, if not receive approval from, numerous constituencies before making any significant decisions.

Sounds like the model for the inVoice.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 16, 2023 3:11 pm

Alex Stein running amok:

Alex Stein and his wife’s boyfriend Dontarius revealed the racism at New York City Council by the way they treated Dontarius. Do you think New York City is racist?

Kicked Out for EXPOSING the NYC City Council

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 3:17 pm

“JCsays:
April 16, 2023 at 12:15 pm
I agree with Don Jr. on the Bud Light thing. AB leans Republican and one stupid ad initiated by an idiotic girl shouldn’t be used by the Right to try and destroy a major American company. That’s just cancel culture.”

JC, I probably once would have agreed with you but I’ve now reached the stage where I have had enough and I want to throw it back in their faces. I don’t particularly like cancel culture but when a major corporation like Nike uses a transgender pervert and all round exhibitionist and fetishist, who’s on record fantasising about tampons, menstruation and female breasts, to spruik women’s sporting attire, I say, nup, kaput, I won’t buy their stuff ever again and quite frankly, I hope the company collapses. There must be some push back. Nike deserves to go broke, I know they won’t however in the short term the corporation should, at the very bare minimum, incur some financial consequences for using a pervert like Mulvaney. The Mulvaney Nike advert mocks, parodies and denigrates women. If Nike holds women in such contempt, then biological females such as myself will no longer buy their stuff.

I now no longer have a problem destroying a major American or Australian company, if they’re going to treat people such as myself with contempt. For years now, across the West, almost every institution, almost all major companies and corporations, entertainment and even the effing Royal Family, have gone woke, they spruik woke rubbish, and preach and lecture to us about how phobic we are, be it about transgenderism, Islam, LGBTQI+, critical race theory and all the rest of the bullshit that is steadily destroying the West. My philosophy now is that if I’m going to be smeared every day as a “phobe”….then I will be phobe about certain products and companies. I am now a Nikephobe.

P
P
April 16, 2023 3:18 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 3:22 pm

Marcia Langton 1986

“Our communities can run themselves.” Great job they’re doing, if the graph on Michael Smith News is any guide…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 3:28 pm

It isn’t about the base, though, Bruce.

Yes it is CL. I love the primaries, they allow the ordinary people a voice. There’s that word again, the Voice! Except this is a real voice, like what we don’t have here in the face of the elites running the Libs. DeSantis ain’t chiming with the ordinary people, since he doesn’t fight. Not like Trump does, ie with real irate fury. DeSantis is too polite, we’re past that point. I love what DeSantis is doing in Florida, but that doesn’t count except in Florida, for reasons I’m about to say.

It’s about, say, four million voters who were (allegedly) in Biden’s column switching over to Trump’s in 2024. Can’t see it happening.

No Republican can win in 2024, you surely know that CL already. It will be stolen again, since the alphabet agencies are in the Dems pocket, and so are the electoral administrations in all the so-called swing states. The courts are too terrified to intervene.

So why is Trump doing what he’s doing if he knows this? Two reasons. One is to educate the ordinary people in the knowledge of the increasingly less soft dictatorship they are now living in. Two, to prepare the ground for the second US civil war. Which is why he wants DeSantis in Florida, to be a core base for that war. If what Trump does works it will be a cold second civil war, not hot. But I suspect Trump would settle for a hot war if the Dems and the deep state want that.

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 3:29 pm

“It’s about, say, four million voters who were (allegedly) in Biden’s column switching over to Trump’s in 2024. Can’t see it happening.”

I agree C.L. It won’t happen.

rickw
rickw
April 16, 2023 3:29 pm

Beautiful dark blue Lear Jet just took off from here. Particularly caught my attention because she was making a bit of smoke as they mashed the throttles.

If there were some impoverished normies staring at it through the airport security fence, it would have been the perfect image of our destination.

Chris
Chris
April 16, 2023 3:29 pm

I now no longer have a problem destroying a major American or Australian company, if they’re going to treat people such as myself with contempt. For years now, across the West, almost every institution, almost all major companies and corporations, entertainment and even the effing Royal Family, have gone woke, they spruik woke rubbish, and preach and lecture to us about how phobic we are, be it about transgenderism, Islam, LGBTQI+, critical race theory and all the rest of the bullshit that is steadily destroying the West. My philosophy now is that if I’m going to be smeared every day as a “phobe”….then I will be phobe about certain products and companies.

Onyer Cassie. The main woke corporate brand I would choose to obliterate if I could is the ABC.
I just got to choose a new razor, and chose a Schick because of that woke Gillette all-men-are-abusers ad a few years ago. However no-one else still cares that I have heard of.

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 3:33 pm

“The main woke corporate brand I would choose to obliterate if I could is the ABC.”

I don’t think you’re alone there.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Peter Dutton visits The Alice, consults with lots of locals, holds a press conference about lawlessness.
In a breathtaking exhibition of chutzpah* Their ABC pretty much jeers that this is fake news.
Their ABC & the kneepad left, standing up to their necks in decades of evidence empirical & anecdotal of Central Australian lawlessness, brush all this aside to start a national chant of “what proof have ya got?” implying Dutton is a clueless moron, making stuff up to promote his profile.

Their ABC, in revisionism that would make any communist propaganda office blush, tell us they’re simply holding politicians to account, & that Peter Dutton & Jacinda Price should report any child sexual abuse to police. (In a tone of reporting implying that Dutton & Price have nothing)

Simply holding politicians to account eh?
I look forward to this new police of holding politicians to account being extended to include government politicians.

Dutton & Price should comment only upon verified facts. Where the heck did this come from?
Woweeee.. I’m old enough to remember exactly how much disdain there was for innuendo in Their ABC’s reporting of the allegations against Cardinal Pell.

Dutton & Price should report sexual abuse allegations to police eh?
Woweee… I’m old enough to remember Their ABC’s reporting of Brittany Higgins.
So where the heck did Their ABC get this new policy of demanding people in the news who know about sexual abuse should report it to the police?

* (hat tip; Cassie)

Winston Smith
April 16, 2023 3:35 pm

Chris:

My recollection, seared into my memory by publicly approving the killing a few minutes too soon, was that he was not an illegal immigrant, just a young tourist with a backpack dressed like a young tourist with a backpack; the inquest concluded that he had mistaken the very plainclothes coppers for muggers.

OK, I’ll bow to your superior memory – God knows that mine is nowhere near as flash as it used to be.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 16, 2023 3:42 pm

“It’s about, say, four million voters who were (allegedly) in Biden’s column switching over to Trump’s in 2024. Can’t see it happening.”

I agree C.L. It won’t happen.

And even if 4 mil did ‘switch over’, the ballot stuffing would be tuned accordingly. Full marks to Trump. What a guy. I wonder if he sometimes wonders why he bothers.

Winston Smith
April 16, 2023 3:42 pm

Chris:

Onyer Cassie. The main woke corporate brand I would choose to obliterate if I could is the ABC.
I just got to choose a new razor, and chose a Schick because of that woke Gillette all-men-are-abusers ad a few years ago. However no-one else still cares that I have heard of.

Gillette is still on my shit list, and will remain there until they kiss my pasty white arse for their failure to sack their advertising department for that travesty of a campaign with the trans whacko.

calli
calli
April 16, 2023 3:47 pm

“Our communities can run themselves.”

The word she’s looking for is “ruin”.

The missing “I” is out of character.

sfw
sfw
April 16, 2023 3:54 pm

Ordered some motorcycle parts from England, posted on the 28 March, sat in the UK for 12 days then sent to Melbourne , been sitting in Melbourne ever since, I post a letter to my mum every week, it usually take 5 to 7 days to get to Melbourne. The theme of ‘Ulysses Shrugged’ is the breakdown and loss of expertise and the ability to do things in an efficient and timely manner, we are living in this time.

Fat people and planes, I had to go to Brisbane a couple of years for work, last minute flight and got a seat right at the back, where the fuselage curves in, very tight seating, three seats across. I had the window seat. Sure enough I see two enormously fat women coming sideways down the aisle, they couldn’t walk straight they were so fat, both had the fat chick aprons and wearing revoltingly tight leggings. Of course they were seated next to me. The first one squeezed her way into the seat next to me, as she fell into the seat her companion did the same. She was so fat her massive thighs oozed under the armrest and forced it up to a 30 degree angle. They both had that smell that some very fat people get when they can’t wash themselves properly. Sydney to Brisbane, lucky I didn’t have to use the toilet it would’ve been close to impossible to get to it. The airlines have the nerve to charge for a flight under those conditions.

cohenite
April 16, 2023 3:55 pm

I’ve surfed all over the world but the surfing strip from Schnappers to Kirra is the best in the world. All those guys can’t be wrong. Here is Kirra at its best.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Chris says: April 16, 2023 at 2:59 pm
Maybe.
If we can trust a media writer, who would of course not seek to inflame to get clicks.
On the other hand, its not out of the question that the householder was what Knuckle Dragger calls a frequent flyer, or who due perhaps to being a little ‘tired and emotional’, saw police and then responded inappropriately. If it were so I would expect that exculpatory information to be in the first announcement, so I really don’t know.

Gotta question your methodology, as the police bodycam video, released by the Farmington New Mexico police dept (the ones who did the shooting) has been available online for two days.

It matters not who the householder was. The police clearly went to the wrong address, & when it was confirmed the wrong address they did not proceed to the correct address, instead proceeding with the doorknock.

Neither did they identify themselves as police officers.

Regardless of whether he was a “frequent flier” or an upstanding citizen, he wasn’t in the frame for the job they were on, wasn’t even at the address of the job they were on, & has a right to answer his door during the night without cops arbitrarily shooting him dead.

Anyone want to guess how it would have worked out had he refused to open the door?

shatterzzz
April 16, 2023 4:02 pm

Ordered some motorcycle parts from England, posted on the 28 March, sat in the UK for 12 days then sent to Melbourne , been sitting in Melbourne ever since, I post a letter to my mum every week, it usually take 5 to 7 days to get to Melbourne

This is what the “watches ” were for! .. all those contracts that Oz Post secured were with companies guaranteeing specific delivery times for a fee …… The ordinary punter is pushed to the back to ensure the dollar paying company gets 1st preference ..
I’ve bought several items from KOGAN that have come via Oz Post .. You not only get delivery within 3 days of being notified they’ve been packed but an email telling you both day & approximate time of delivery …..

shatterzzz
April 16, 2023 4:04 pm

or who due perhaps to being a little ‘tired and emotional’

New Mexico is “open carry” so the householder was entitled to answer the door armed …..

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 16, 2023 4:07 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
April 16, 2023 4:07 pm

I’ve surfed all over the world but the surfing strip from Schnappers to Kirra is the best in the world.

Few blokes from around Margaret River would happily have that argument for Yallingup to Augusta. Never been to the North Shore but I expect it to be similar.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 16, 2023 4:09 pm

Would concede full flight Kirra probably edges out North Point for first place.

Tom
Tom
April 16, 2023 4:12 pm

Pert arses are cute. Big ones are revolting.

Correct, JC.

The phat ass fetish seems to be A Thing only with African American men.

Fat-arsed white girls are the height of ugliness.

Anyone can eat too many hamburgers and, for white girls above 20 years of age, the calories go straight to their bottoms — unless they’re born skinny like Jessica Rowe (who’s ugly anyway without TV lights and slabs of pancake primer).

sfw
sfw
April 16, 2023 4:16 pm

The Tim Blair piece is very good as most of his writing is. Got me thinking back to when I was in the MFB and we first started doing the ‘first responder’ stuff. I remember talking to an ambo about a job we were at he he mentioned the ‘rule of seven’. I’d never heard it and he explained, “if someone has seven or more things attached to their body it isn’t good at all” seems that if you’re at that point in or out of hospital the future isn’t bright.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Joh was all about Joh and his cronies.

This could be written only by a someone who wears a three-piece suit. Either in Trades Hall or a boardroom.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 16, 2023 4:32 pm

They both had that smell that some very fat people get when they can’t wash themselves properly.

No. NO.

Big, brave, beautiful and comfortable in their own bodies.

Also stinking like fury, and attempting to cover it with volume. Guaranteed the airport scanner picked up the TV remote which was lost for months, was hiding under one of the gunt rolls, but is still there because the security dude wasn’t paid enough to further investigate.

cohenite
April 16, 2023 4:32 pm

Nothing will happen to these bastards:

Fifty arrested in Newcastle coal train protest

Annie
Annie
April 16, 2023 4:32 pm

Cassie of Sydney @ 8:14pm 15th April:

Well, that was very funny. It was a bit different from the various ‘Swan Lakes’ I’ve had the pleasure of enjoying over the years. Most performances were at The Royal Opera House at Covent Garden but also once at the State Theatre in Melbourne when the Bolshoi Ballet were visiting. I fear that I do not have the energy any longer to keep traipsing in from the country to the city to the ballet. I used to wear a track from Reading to the ROH in my younger days!

Frank
Frank
April 16, 2023 4:34 pm

The problem here is that you lot are judging the photo on the character of the person and not judging the arse and the rest on the merits.

How many diabetics went into a coma for lack of the ozempic required to get her into that shape. Meanwhile, Jessica Rowe should have avoided the sun more often.

Chris
Chris
April 16, 2023 4:37 pm

Regardless of whether he was a “frequent flier” or an upstanding citizen, he wasn’t in the frame for the job they were on, wasn’t even at the address of the job they were on, & has a right to answer his door during the night without cops arbitrarily shooting him dead.

Absolutely but ‘the job they were on’ and ‘a citizen has a right to be armed in his home’ are not relevant if they believe they are about to be shot. Behaviour of the victims is relevant to whether they had a well-founded belief at that instant.
If they were trained to shoot a citizen with a gun innocently answering his front door, their senior officers are responsible.
‘Arbitrary’ is in the mental state of the Police at the moment they are faced with the choice to shoot or not shoot. I dont trust even my own side, the pro-citizen, pro-gun side, to give me truth while things are shouty.

calli
calli
April 16, 2023 4:42 pm

Thanks for the link to Blair’s heart attack report. He’s the same age as Dad was when he had his – that porridge-like colour is a good indicator.

It could even be a form of in-built protective mental barrier, common to all of us and deployed in moments of unendurable stress.

I think most of us can relate to that. His writing is sharp and funny as every. At least his humour artery didn’t collapse, bless him.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 16, 2023 4:44 pm

When looting and pillaging drives Walmart out of the ‘hood,
it’s important to know who the real villains are.

Frank
Frank
April 16, 2023 4:45 pm

Re Tim Blair, wonder if he has decided to quit the smokes. Hope so.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Absolutely but ‘the job they were on’ and ‘a citizen has a right to be armed in his home’ are not relevant if they believe they are about to be shot.

They should not have been there.*
Their senior officers are another matter.
These officers walked past a clear house number, checked the address via radio, still got it wrong, then shot the householder.
They should go to jail for the rest of their lives. Qualified immunity is not licence to kill.

(Total mystery why from time to time someone takes pot shots at cops in the US.)

*(the same line they pull when a citizen does not have a permit for something which went pear-shaped for reasons outside that citizen’s control)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 4:57 pm

Hope Downs iron ore mines: Two courtrooms booked for multi-billion-dollar legal showdown over ownership
Neale Prior
The West Australian
Sun, 16 April 2023 2:37PM

A judge has booked two courtrooms to accommodate 20-plus barristers for the multi-billion-dollar showdown over ownership of Hope Downs iron ore mines.

Justice Jennifer Smith also had to put the start of the hearing back by a month to July 12 so she could deal with an array of legal, technical and logistical complexities in a row over the dealings of late Pilbara prospector Lang Hancock and his daughter Gina Rinehart.

Justice Smith said on Friday afternoon they would be better off delaying the start and getting preparations right rather than rushing.

“When you rush you end up wasting time when the trial starts,” she said.

She hopes to spend less than four months hearing competing claims over Hancock Prospecting’s 50 per cent stake in the Hope Downs iron mines, which are operated by mining giant Rio Tinto.

In an action that has been dragged through the courts since 2010, the family company of Mr Hancock’s late former business partner Peter Wright is claiming half of Hancock Prospecting’s stake in the Hope Downs 4 mine and royalties from Hope Downs 1.

Both of these actions conflict with claims by Mrs Rinehart’s two eldest children, John Hancock and Bianca Rinehart, that they are entitled to Hancock Prospecting’s half share in the Hope Downs operations.

The Supreme Court defences and claims of the eldest children in turn overlap with confidential Federal mediation among Lang Hancock’s descendants — now being overseen by Chief Justice Wayne Martin.

After giving several prerequisite rulings in John and Bianca’s favour, Justice Smith will hear legal arguments on May 10 about whether they can use documents from the arbitration in their Supreme Court fight.

Their lawyer Christine Ernst said these 2500 documents could “be a significant part of our case”.

Justice Smith has pencilled in May 23 for hearing legal arguments about confidentiality orders that will be imposed on documents sourced from Rio Tinto.

Rio Tinto’s status as the operator of the joint venture is not challenged.

Despite the battling parties still arguing about the evidence to be used, Justice Smith set a tight schedule for legal teams to finalise their cases and file legal arguments.

She left John and Bianca scope to tweak their case if necessary after May 10.

Hancock Prospecting barrister Christian Bova favoured delaying the original June 12 trial start date as the complexity of legal arguments around the mediation documents became apparent.

Mr Bova told Justice Smith he was confident they could all have the trial completed by the end of October.

Justice Smith replied: “I might hold you to that, Mr Bova.”

Justice Smith asked the lawyers to discuss pencilling in some extra dates in late November and December just in case there were trial delays.

And she asked solicitors to talk to her team about what provisions needed to be made for them to tune into her court by phone or videolink.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 16, 2023 4:58 pm

The Moody Blues channel:

Justin recalls the phone call from Jeff Wayne to record “Forever Autumn” and how he can go anywhere in the world and people will know it. Watch Justin’s performance from his 2019 Nights tour.

Justin Hayward – “Forever Autumn” (Live)

rickw
rickw
April 16, 2023 5:01 pm

Who would you barrack for: muzzies or the trannies:

Can we just watch the death match without picking a side?!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 16, 2023 5:01 pm

a shocking blindness toward the mainstream of American life, including working classes and other people less privileged.

The same nonsense is heard from less privileged people. I don’t think it was the insulated express lane to the top that explains her choices, it only explains here ability to deploy it with wide effect.
If you really believe privilege was the problem then you are in the same camp as that Other Lot that want to eliminate privilege. The aspect of previous brand image that she objected to is the hint.
The solution is to Make Heterosexuality Legal Again.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 5:01 pm

Gillette is still on my shit list

I’ve been buying Bic ever since Gillette went in-my-face-woke.
Maybe they’ll get lots of sales from trannies who shave their legs or something.

Tom
Tom
April 16, 2023 5:05 pm

Re Tim Blair, wonder if he has decided to quit the smokes.

He has, Frank.

The best bit is he is discovering he doesn’t need a fag in his mouth to write well — unlike most male journos who still smoke.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 5:07 pm

Gillette is still on my sh*t list

I use schick, as I have been for decades.

We’re now up to “five”* on this mighty journey.

The only thing I hate more than shaving is facial hair. The Romans got it right (again).

*Blades, as in the hydro majestic five

rickw
rickw
April 16, 2023 5:07 pm

The same nonsense is heard from less privileged people.

I agree, the problem isn’t just an idiot elite, the problem also includes idiot normies.

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 5:10 pm

“The only thing I hate more than shaving is facial hair. The Romans got it right (again).”

Rabzy, a beard would suit you.

rickw
rickw
April 16, 2023 5:10 pm

I use schick, as I have been for decades.

We’re now up to “five”* on this mighty journey.

I just use the schick pleb razor with two blades, and the ejector that shoves the whiskers out from between the blades.

calli
calli
April 16, 2023 5:11 pm

the problem isn’t just an idiot elite, the problem also includes idiot normies.

I’d nominate that for a Liberty Quote, rickw. Except for the fact that I often identify with it.

*throws caution to the winds*

Liberty Quote!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 5:13 pm

Justin recalls the phone call from Jeff Wayne to record “Forever Autumn”

Nice, Steve! I like that he mentions he did Eve of the War, which imho is even better.

Jeff Wayne – The Eve of the War (Official Audio) ft. Richard Burton, Justin Hayward (1978)

calli
calli
April 16, 2023 5:14 pm

Next they’ll have you at the ballet, Rabz.

😀

calli
calli
April 16, 2023 5:18 pm

The more micro-dick Zeros my comments, the more determined I am to make them.

You’ve picked the wrong target halfwit.

Roger
Roger
April 16, 2023 5:22 pm

“The only thing I hate more than shaving is facial hair. The Romans got it right (again).”

Romans had beards.

They went in and out of fashion.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
April 16, 2023 5:23 pm

A gentleman shaves with a double edge blade in a quality razor.

Like the Feather AS-D2 Safety Razor.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 16, 2023 5:24 pm

The demo movie from FlawlessAI here is amazing https://twitter.com/Flawlessai/status/1618954444510728192
The algorithm resynthesises new lip movements to match the target language being dubbed and replaces the mouth with the synthetic version.
They call the technique “generative AI filmmaking”, but I call the product fraud.
When this is done in realtime it is going to make certified origins of video material absolutely essential to interpreting/believing them, because sheer visual authenticity is no longer an adequate test.

And the CEO is named Nick Lynes. Really? An amazing co-incidence that his business is to steal dialogue from one person’s mouth and put it in another person’s mouth, or to nick lines basically.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 5:26 pm

Nice to see there’s another Groove Aramada fan here, Alamak!

Roger
Roger
April 16, 2023 5:32 pm

This time last week I tuned in a little early to the ABC to watch Antiques Roadshow and caught the end of a panel discussion program on the arts.

Four brown people talking about the need for diversity in the sector.

This week I’m taking no chances; the TV is not going on until 5:35pm.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 5:32 pm

Next they’ll have me at the ballet sporting a beard, calli.

It ain’t going to happen. My ol’ man used to refer to facially haired men as “weirdos with beards”.

Eventually portmanteaud into “Beirdos”.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 5:33 pm

And a turtleneck.

Frank
Frank
April 16, 2023 5:33 pm

Feather AS-D2 Safety Razor.

Terrifying object for a congenital klutz.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 5:34 pm

Rog is one of the few people in this country who willingly watches the ALPBC.

Sad. 🙁

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 16, 2023 5:36 pm

Rabzsays:
April 16, 2023 at 5:26 pm
Nice to see there’s another Groove Aramada fan here, Alamak!

1,056 views 1 Dec 2021
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Groove Armada – Superstylin’ (Remastered) 4K

Roger
Roger
April 16, 2023 5:39 pm

Rog is one of the few people in this country who willingly watches the ALPBC.

Only Antiques Roadshow, Rabz.

The militaria that usually features on each episode is worth the price of admission.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 5:41 pm

Romans had beards.

I suspect the King of Spades shaved with one.
He was a tough guy. Boy could his guys dig dirt or what?
Just ask Mr Vercingetorix.

Razey
Razey
April 16, 2023 5:43 pm

Back of the envelope calc for debt per tax payer in Victoria.

Hunchback’s debt = $165 billion / 3.5 mil tax payers = $47k
Federal debt = $1 trillion/ 14.7 mil = $68k
Total = $115k each tax payer.

With the overlords running a permanent deficit, the debt will never be paid. It will only increase.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 5:44 pm

ooops – that should be “willingly watches, reads to listens to the ALPBC” given it’s a multi meeja taxpayer funded vampire squid nowadays …

Cats, I hate the gliberals so much – nine years of staggering mediocrity, during which they willingly allowed those collectivist cockheads to pillory them at every turn.

One of the (many) lowlights being the Porter tearfully announcing the end of his utterly inglorious political career on the back of a whole bunch of unsubstantiated allegations levelled against him by a mad dead harridan megaphoned by the aforementioned taxpayer funded propaganda organ.

Pathetic.

And don’t get me started on the Beetrooter, I tells ya.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 16, 2023 5:47 pm

“The only thing I hate more than shaving is facial hair. The Romans got it right (again).”
A few cold water hospital shaves would have reconsidering this position. A beard is good for stroking while thinking. I think may have held me back.

Tom
Tom
April 16, 2023 5:51 pm

Rog is one of the few people in this country who willingly watches the ALPBC.

Rabz, it sounds to me like you should be tuning in to American Pickers on 7 Mate (Foxtel channel 157) week nights at 6pm, which aims to discover “American history — one town at a time”. Highly recommended for history and pop culture buffs.

It’s my go-to when there isn’t footy or Outback Truckers.

Frank
Frank
April 16, 2023 5:54 pm

The Romans got it right (again).

Those communal rags in the toilets were a bit of an oversight though.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 5:54 pm

Some more Groove Armada, these two are live.

Groove Armada – At The River (2007)

Groove Armada – Hands of Time (2002)

The second one is nicely bluesy.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 16, 2023 5:55 pm

Someone has done an excellent animation showing what The WEF future has in store for us…

25 minutes, well worth watching if you have the time.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 6:00 pm

No thanks, Tommy – not while I have my music videos …

A northern man in Londoninium

Winston Smith
April 16, 2023 6:01 pm

Colonel Crispin Berka:

The same nonsense is heard from less privileged people.

rickw:

I agree, the problem isn’t just an idiot elite, the problem also includes idiot normies.

The idiot normies don’t have the social and economic power to instigate these lunatic fads. All they can do is follow them.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 6:04 pm

Later with Jools delivers again

Groove Armarda – Hands of time

Rabz
April 16, 2023 6:12 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 6:18 pm

Here you go Rabz. This is in honour of the guy commencing his next movie at age 93.

Damon Albarn – Clint Eastwood LIVE (2004)

calli
calli
April 16, 2023 6:19 pm

Steve T. mentioned Justin Hayward up thread.

My favourite Moodies would be Voices in the Sky.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 6:19 pm

Oops, that was from 2014 not 2004. As you were.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I just got to choose a new razor, and chose a Schick because of that woke Gillette all-men-are-abusers ad a few years ago. However no-one else still cares that I have heard of.

How many people make a point of purchasing other-than-gillette-shaving-products?
A lot more people than one may first realise.
Every now & then the topic crops up in small talk, & I’m usually surprised at the quiet determination to avoid gillette, by someone who I’d have otherwise picked as likely to forget any boycott after a few months.

A certain cheese brand has caused a similar degree of determination among former consumers to avoid that brand.
Likely a certain brand of beer in USA has now a similar toxic brand name.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 6:23 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 16, 2023 6:26 pm

Crikkit WAG Candice Warner is releasing a memoir, of sorts. It is said to be called ‘Running Strong’.

In it is a vignette relating to possibly the most hilarious moment in sporting history, and in which Sonny Bill Williams plays an indirect part.

Candice was horrified that her midget ranga houso cack-handed husband had been caught out as the driving force behind the 2018 ball-tampering disaster in Seth Efrica, and then even more horrified that the Saffies had accurately sensed the snivelling dwarf’s weak spot, and within 18 hours had brought – and were wearing – hundreds of Sonny Bill Williams masks when the Australian second innings began.

The Saffies accurately sensed a weak spot (the Hun):

The next day it got worse … They said they were going to stop the masks and the songbooks being handed out, when in fact … the South African officials said, ‘No, no, we’re not going to stop this. This is OK.’ So they then allowed the masks to go out again. South African officials [were] having photos [taken with spectators] with the masks on.

24 hours after the blackest day in Australian sporting history, this was the only moment that brightened it. I will forgive South African cricket fans absolutely anything after this brilliant display of twisting the knife.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 16, 2023 6:28 pm

A certain cheese brand has caused a similar degree of determination among former consumers to avoid that brand.
Likely a certain brand of beer in USA has now a similar toxic brand name.

CoonBusch.

Oh no. That won’t do at all.

C.L.
C.L.
April 16, 2023 6:28 pm

Blair’s heart attack remembrance at Quadrant is the perfect column.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 6:29 pm

Calli, you bring back fossilized memories. I think I had Seventh Sojourn and A Question of Balance on vinyl when I was a uni. On graduation I gave all my discs and turntable to a flatmate then started work in Tassie in my first job. This is from Seventh Sojourn:

The Moody Blues – I’m Just A Singer (In A Rock And Roll Band) (1972)

Glorious song. It’s fun how woke the lyrics are – the seventies were the proto-2020s.

rickw
rickw
April 16, 2023 6:30 pm

Those communal rags in the toilets were a bit of an oversight though.

Definitely! I think they may have actually been sea sponges on a stick. Potentially the natural biocide effects within the sea sponge and stick might have saved the day…… barely.

Winston Smith
April 16, 2023 6:31 pm

Rabz:
Evie.
Classic.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

CoonBusch.

Classic!

Rabz
April 16, 2023 6:37 pm

Tender Is the Night

The case of F. Scott Fitzgerald has become distressing. He is boozing in a wild manner and has become a nuisance. His wife, Zelda, who has been insane for years, is now confined at the Sheppard-Pratt Hospital, and he is living in Park Avenue with his little daughter, Scottie.
—H. L. Mencken, 1934 diary entry[43]

For some context, a 1930s bimbette

rickw
rickw
April 16, 2023 6:37 pm

CoonBusch.

Oh no. That won’t do at all.

Don’t be so hasty, when you’re in a hole, why not team up with another woke US corporate to make things even holier?!

Now, are we marketing cheese flavoured beer, or beer flavoured cheese, or something altogether different?!

rickw
rickw
April 16, 2023 6:39 pm

CoonBusch.
Classic!

Winston, I think you need to crank up the T shirt machine again!

Makka
Makka
April 16, 2023 6:39 pm

Re: The Moodies. A hot fave of mine;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPLWBhNW3FM&ab_channel=MoodiesFan

Tuesday Afternoon.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 16, 2023 6:40 pm

Now, are we marketing cheese flavoured beer, or beer flavoured cheese, or something altogether different?!

As much as I would like to add the word ‘Limburger’ to the equation, decorum on this august journal of record must prevail.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 16, 2023 6:41 pm

Went to see if anything of interest on TNT radio. Ex neighbours actor Damien Richardson has an afternoon show. Schedule showed he has co hosted show with Aussie Cossack 3 x last week.

Went back to YouTube.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 6:45 pm

Since we’re doing pommy, here’s some BAD music.

Big Audio Dynamite – Medicine Show (1986)

Big Audio Dynamite – E=MC2 (1986)

The first is an anthem for our time, given climate rubbish, covid and all the various insanities we’re currently stuck with.

Frank
Frank
April 16, 2023 6:48 pm

Funny how Gillette et al are still on the nose for some dalliance with whiny woke but Nestle, Union Carbide and other corporate boogy men seem to survive the attempted cancellation. Almost as if people are willing to tolerate evil but preachy tranny stuff is the kiss of death.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 16, 2023 6:54 pm

callisays:
April 16, 2023 at 6:19 pm
Steve T. mentioned Justin Hayward up thread.

My favourite Moodies would be Voices in the Sky.

All new to me.

The Moody Blues – Voices In The Sky

Makka
Makka
April 16, 2023 6:55 pm

Another thing of beauty from the Moodies;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSt1vXiY-yU&ab_channel=InaChansons

Way ahead of their time.

Winston Smith
April 16, 2023 6:55 pm

rickw:

Winston, I think you need to crank up the T shirt machine again!

I’m currently waiting on the latest output -“Me Being Vaccinated Won’t Cure Your Hypochondria.”
The last one was “The Unvaccinated Aren’t a Threat to Society – They Are a Threat to Authority.” That one got a couple of “I love the T Shirt” comments in Chermside shopping centre last time.
Looking at “The Voice = An Aboriginal House of Lords” but not sure how that will translate.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 16, 2023 6:56 pm

The next day it got worse … They said they were going to stop the masks and the songbooks being handed out, when in fact … the South African officials said, ‘No, no, we’re not going to stop this. This is OK.’ So they then allowed the masks to go out again. South African officials [were] having photos [taken with spectators] with the masks on.

Possibly the greatest mass trolling effort in the history of world sport.
Following Greg Norman with a noose, or turning up to a Tyson fight with an ear bandaged might go close, but the SBW masks topped the podium.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 16, 2023 6:58 pm

I know Marvel has gone woke, but do check out this series.

Welcome to The Framework – Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 4×15

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Frank says: April 16, 2023 at 6:48 pm
Funny how Gillette et al are still on the nose for some dalliance with whiny woke but Nestle, Union Carbide and other corporate boogy men seem to survive the attempted cancellation. Almost as if people are willing to tolerate evil but preachy tranny stuff is the kiss of death.

There is a limit to what a bloke can boycott.

The Liberal party are in their 27th year of it with me.
They get my vote back when I get my guns back.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 7:01 pm

Tender Is the Night

What backing singers were made for!
That and the Black Crowes’ “Remedy”.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Oh-my-God. Mastermind
Just now – question: “F.W. DeClerk was the final Apartheid Prime Minister of which African country?”
<30yo Mastermind in the chair: “…ahm…….. Kenya?….”

MatrixTransform
April 16, 2023 7:05 pm

I was wandering through Bunning on Grik Easter today and its a bit quiet.

Passed the help desk and some old fella in a work apron is holding forth for a couple of kiddies.

He goes, “Dead set, when I was at primary school they used to deliver little milk containers every morning and leave them in the sun for a couple of hours before making us drink them”

A 30-something mole responds, “bull-tish Johnno, you are suuuch a lair!”

I couldn’t help it. I looked up and says “yeah, nah, true…they did”

With a you’re-both-taking-the-p155 look she says, “What the actual? Where exactly do youse codgers go to school?”

Johnno says, “yeah, used to be in little milk bottles, and then they switched to tetra packs … like Sunny-Boys

the kiddies are blank

I said, “and you get a ‘free’ Johnno, they cant even hear you”

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 16, 2023 7:05 pm

Saw this comment on another site:

… traditional Confucian culture kept women illiterate to save money & trouble, and we are all paying the price for disregarding the wise words of the sage:

“A woman’s virtue lies in her lack of talent.”

– Confucius

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 16, 2023 7:06 pm

make up your own mind.

Cohenite, I have done so, after a good look at your ‘type’. You seem to go for women who look nothing like real women, but who have either worked out to excess on steroids to turn male, or trimmed and surgically shaped themselves into some sort of Barbie female, all in order to conform to some ideal that no woman in nature has. The Kardashian female has super-filled lips, silicon bum and breast breast inserts, evidence of liposuction around her stomach and is thin as a rake around her ribs and shoulders. She’s spent a fortune on that image as well as her skin and hair.

Half-starved and surgically mauled. Not sexy.

Erk.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 7:08 pm

He goes, “Dead set, when I was at primary school they used to deliver little milk containers every morning and leave them in the sun for a couple of hours before making us drink them”

A 30-something mole responds, “bull-tish Johnno, you are suuuch a lair!”

The lime flavoured ones were always the last that we’d drink. Warm by then and excruciatingly disgusting.

bons
bons
April 16, 2023 7:12 pm

I am on my knees grovelling in abject apology to Margaret (from Margaret and David) for all those years of sneering.
Her hit job on ‘Married at First Sight’ is outstanding compulsory viewing. (Micheal Smith today).
Sure, it is the ABC attacking a competitor, but it is fantastic. Viscious, foul mouthed, unforgiving, and given her facial expression, probably from the heart.
Granny finally beating up the bikie next door who has been kicking her cats for years.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 16, 2023 7:13 pm

Renoir and Rubens painted beautiful images of well-rounded well-fed women.
Botticelli perfected the image of the natural female face and form in good health.
Degas showed women in all of their deeply feminine grace.
All enticing for the male gaze.

The painters of the past knew where it was at.

Crossie
Crossie
April 16, 2023 7:14 pm

The only thing I hate more than shaving is facial hair. The Romans got it right (again).

And yet so many trannies are sporting not just a beard but a moustache as well. If you aspired to be a woman wouldn’t you want to look like one? That the beard and a moustache are worn by trannies tells me that these are no such thing but are rather pleased with their masculinity. What they want is intrusion into women’s spaces and to threaten the women there. It also tells me that people who accept their claims are worse than they are.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

OMG, Mastermind.
“An aerial battle, fought entirely between aircraft of opposing sides, the Battle of Britain, was fought in which war?”
<30yo Master-bluddee-mind (not the same one as before) "First World War"
No recognition on their face at being told the correct answer. He'd have been just as blank had the compere said "US Civil War" – the millennial had absolutely no idea in which was was the Battle of England… or whatever the question was.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 7:19 pm
Crossie
Crossie
April 16, 2023 7:19 pm

Tom says:
April 16, 2023 at 5:51 pm
Rog is one of the few people in this country who willingly watches the ALPBC.
Rabz, it sounds to me like you should be tuning in to American Pickers on 7 Mate (Foxtel channel 157) week nights at 6pm, which aims to discover “American history — one town at a time”. Highly recommended for history and pop culture buffs.
It’s my go-to when there isn’t footy or Outback Truckers.

My husband loved all those programs and had great fun watching them. He was nice enough to watch them through the day and then let me choose what to watch in the evenings.

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 7:21 pm

“Her hit job on ‘Married at First Sight’ is outstanding compulsory viewing. (Micheal Smith today).
Sure, it is the ABC attacking a competitor, but it is fantastic. Viscious, foul mouthed, unforgiving, and given her facial expression, probably from the heart.”

I’ve never watched “Married at First Sight”, however I’ve just watched Margaret’s smackdown and it’s a corker.

Crossie
Crossie
April 16, 2023 7:22 pm

A small addition to my previous comment. My husband’s all time favourite program was The Pawn Stars and of course we had to visit the store when we were in Las Vegas in 2018.

Dot
Dot
April 16, 2023 7:22 pm

Lime flavoured milk???

You’re having a lend, surely?

Zipster
Zipster
April 16, 2023 7:26 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 7:26 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV4uvOn8Mzo

Lydia Thorpe, displaying all the style and grace, of a farting competition.

H/T Michael Smith.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 7:27 pm

well-rounded well-fed womanages

Let’s not get all carried away here, Lizzie.

The “not a gram of excess fat” look will always attract the lustful male gaze … 🙂

Makka
Makka
April 16, 2023 7:28 pm

Zelensky Skimmed $400 Million In U.S. War Funds! Reveals Seymour Hersh

And how much of this is going to be channeled back into the Senile Old Perv’s 2024 election campaign, one wonders.

Crossie
Crossie
April 16, 2023 7:31 pm

calli says:
April 16, 2023 at 6:19 pm
Steve T. mentioned Justin Hayward up thread.
My favourite Moodies would be Voices in the Sky.

For me it has to be Nights in White Satin. It was the song the band played on our first date in 1973, the dance was sublime. The cover band did a very good job.

Nights In White Satin

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

And how much of this is going to be channeled back into the Senile Old Perv’s 2024 election campaign, one wonders.

“Money gets half” – so $200 million.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 16, 2023 7:33 pm

I’ve never watched “Married at First Sight”, however I’ve just watched Margaret’s smackdown and it’s a corker.

Best thing on the AB friggin C in along, long time.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 16, 2023 7:33 pm

“Dead set, when I was at primary school they used to deliver little milk containers every morning and leave them in the sun for a couple of hours before making us drink them”

I remember these from the early fifties. Never heard of flavoured milk in those days. Some of us used to look forward to them and drink any spares. This was the case if we didn’t take much lunch, sometimes none, or it was often thick stale bread, rancid butter and a smidgeon of jam which had all crusted together. Children from the ‘better’ homes away from the Commission Houses used to have greaseproof paper wrapped sandwiches of peanut butter, Vegemite, or sliced Devon, plus an apple or a banana, put into a small cardboard case with a single slip (not the Globite cases you got in high school). They often sat a bit away from the rest of us and swapped sandwiches. I had an old string bag with butchers’ paper wrapping saved from the meat; others came with just a paper bag which they had to take home to use again.

For a short period of only a few weeks some charity arrived, set up trestle tables, and served us free ‘Oslo lunches’ of fresh bread, butter and cold meats with lettuce and tomato; there was also a raisin and nut mix with honey, which I loved on the soft white bread. Heaven sent, but still no match for the meat pies we could buy from the cake shop up near the Mechanics Hall if we’d saved for one or mum gave us a treat. I had one just like it a Glenrowan on the way home from Bendigo. What the hell’s in this thing? queried Hairy about his as he peered at its contents. But I knew. It was pie meat.

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 7:34 pm

“Half-starved and surgically mauled. Not sexy.”

Agree, and the surgically enhanced lips, which makes them look like a gothic freak from a horror movie.

MatrixTransform
April 16, 2023 7:35 pm

The lime flavoured ones

omg … flavoured milk is pretty posh

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 16, 2023 7:36 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
April 16, 2023 at 7:13 pm

I probably cop a proverbial flogging. You have nice boobies…based on your avatar from years back when you visited the States.

Just saying….all in good fun.

As for the Kardashian…yuck!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 16, 2023 7:36 pm

.. that’s a single clip, not slip.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 7:36 pm

Lime flavoured milk???
You’re having a lend, surely?

No, sorry. I’m the one who is sorry. It was disgusting. Primary, early 1970’s.

John H.
John H.
April 16, 2023 7:37 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
April 16, 2023 at 6:45 pm
Since we’re doing pommy, here’s some BAD music.

Big Audio Dynamite – Medicine Show (1986)

Big Audio Dynamite – E=MC2 (1986)

The first is an anthem for our time, given climate rubbish, covid and all the various insanities we’re currently stuck with.

Thanks for E=MC2 reminder Bruce. The neighbours always knew when I got home from work because I used to blast that out.

Dot
Dot
April 16, 2023 7:38 pm

I reckon Albo will promise a student debt jubilee, just before the Voice referendum.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/costs/australian-taxation-office-reveals-list-of-the-nations-heftiest-hecs-debts/news-story/ea18461bc961c464d1827be24c55430a

They’re slow leaking this sort of data with their favourite left wing journalists. You have to ask why.

MatrixTransform
April 16, 2023 7:38 pm

Margaret’s smackdown

any chance of a link ?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 7:38 pm

Chocolate, strawberry and vanilla would all go first. Then, after a pause, banana. Lime was always last.

Jorge
Jorge
April 16, 2023 7:39 pm

Senator Lidia Thorpe last night found herself effing and blinding as she left a Melbourne bar/ nightclub in an exchange with a group of young men. ‘Racists, effing racists’, lots of loud ‘Eff you, you c…ts’ and swirling melee of threats and profanity as she and her female friends pushed against a crowd of northern suburbs ethnics who were in no mind to defer politely to foul mouthed, graceless females. ‘I can’t believe someone like you is in parliament,’ one young bloke says in response to Thorpe’s screeched profanities in the 7 News report.

Funnily enough I can find that report nowhere now and there is no mention of the incident anywhere that I’ve seen. Certainly not on SBS or the ABC.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 16, 2023 7:40 pm

Winston

Looking at “The Voice = An Aboriginal House of Lords” but not sure how that will translate.

Try “The Voice – An Unelected Activist House of Lords”.

Dot
Dot
April 16, 2023 7:40 pm

If Fiona Apple had a sandwich she would have been a 10/10 almost.

As for lime – I assume it is a synthetic flavour.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 7:42 pm

Funnily enough I can find that report nowhere now and there is no mention of the incident anywhere that I’ve seen.

I’ve posted a link – H/T Michael Smith.

John H.
John H.
April 16, 2023 7:42 pm

Boambee Johnsays:
April 16, 2023 at 7:40 pm
Winston

Looking at “The Voice = An Aboriginal House of Lords” but not sure how that will translate.

Try “The Voice – An Unelected Activist House of Lords”.

A government funded lobby group with more power than any other lobby group in history.

MatrixTransform
April 16, 2023 7:42 pm

If Fiona Apple had a sandwich

I’d have one already prepared for if she wakes up

Crossie
Crossie
April 16, 2023 7:45 pm

I’ve never watched “Married at First Sight”, however I’ve just watched Margaret’s smackdown and it’s a corker.

Now she can go after all the ABC programs that are worse and that nobody watches.

Jorge
Jorge
April 16, 2023 7:45 pm

ZK2A at 7.26, thanks for posting that report.

shatterzzz
April 16, 2023 7:45 pm

Funnily enough I can find that report nowhere now and there is no mention of the incident anywhere that I’ve seen. Certainly not on SBS or the ABC.

Enjoy, especially the video .. LOL!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11978169/Senator-Linda-Thorpe-shouting-match-outside-strip-club-3am-Youve-got-small-penis.html

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 7:46 pm

Lidia Thorpe in clash outside Melbourne strip club
By Ellie Dudley
Reporter
@EllieDudley_
7:38PM April 16, 2023
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Lidia Thorpe has been filmed leaving a Melbourne strip club, yelling profanities and telling men they had small genitalia.

The former Greens turned Independent senator was filmed leaving the Brunswick club about 3am on Sunday while celebrating a friend’s 50th birthday, Seven News reported.

The video showed Senator Thorpe shouting at men standing outside, and being dragged away by a companion.
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“You know what I say to you? You know what I say to you?” she said. “Small penis, small penis.”

A man off-camera can be heard calling Senator Thorpe a “racist dog”. She then yelled at him: “Any black man that stands with the f…king white little c… like that youse can call get f…ked like you.”

“We’ve been repressed all our f…king life in this country and you let this little dog speak.”

It’s not the first time Senator Thorpe has been caught in controversy.

Last year she was forced to resign as deputy greens leader after she failed to declare her relationship with former bikie Dean Martin.

At the time, she said she met the former Rebels president through black activism, and they bonded over a passion for Indigenous rights.

In February, she quit the Greens after refusing to support the Indigenous voice to parliament, saying she would continue to represent the black sovereign movement as an independent.

Later that month, she lay in front of a float at the annual Sydney Mardi Gras halting the whole parade.

Last month police pushed her to the ground on the lawn of Parliament House after she attempted to take the stage at a rally organised for Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull.

In a statement to Seven News, Senator Thorpe said she was provoked by the men outside the club, who harassed her on her views on Indigenous affairs.

“It’s sad people are utilising whatever they can to drag me down when we’re trying to discuss important issues in this country,” she said.

The Australian has contacted Senator Thorpe for comment.

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 7:47 pm

“Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
April 16, 2023 at 7:26 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV4uvOn8Mzo

Lydia Thorpe, displaying all the style and grace, of a farting competition.”

My God, what a slag she is, uncouth, foulmouthed, disgraceful. As one of the men said, “how the f*ck does someone get in parliament like you”. And then she threatens the men. I suppose the MSM will go quiet on her. Imagine if that was Pauline or Jacinta.

Australia 2023. Great country we live in.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 16, 2023 7:47 pm

All class:

Controversial independent senator Lidia Thorpe has been video delivering a profanity-riddled rant to a group of men outside a north Melbourne strip club early on Sunday.

The footage was captured on the pavement outside Maxine’s Gentleman’s Club at around 3am as Ms Thorpe was leaving the venue after celebrating a friends’ 50th birthday.

Ms Thorpe can clearly be seen pointing, swearing and trading insults with a group of men.

“You know what I say, to you, you know what I say to you and you …” she said, in the footage captured by 7 News Melbourne.

“Small penis, small penis.”

“You’re a racist dog,” one of the men replied.

Her friend can be seen pulling her away from the men and edging her closer to a taxi, not before screaming “how dare you say that to her.”

As she was ushered into the back of a waiting vehicle the independent senator gestured towards the group of men and shared a racially charged message.

“All I’ve got to say to the black brothers there and anyone that we’re fighting.”

“Any black man that stands with the f*** white little c*** like that, youse can all get f***** too”

One man replied by asking “how the f*** does someone get in parliament like you?”

“We’ve been oppressed all our f**** life in this country and you let this little dog speak” she said.

Before Ms Thorpe left the club, she appeared to have pulled out her phone and started recording the men still lingering on the pavement.

“You, you are marked,” she said.

In a response to the leaked video, Ms Thorpe claimed that the men had provoked her while she left the venue, taking aim at her Indigenous affairs views.

“It’s sad people are using whatever they can to drag me down when we’re trying to discuss important issues in this country,” she remarked in her statement.

This is not the first time this year that Ms Thorpe has attracted controversy.

Apparently ran on Channel 7 tonight.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 7:50 pm

ZK2A at 7.26, thanks for posting that report.

My pleasure, Jorge.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 7:50 pm

omg … flavoured milk is pretty posh

Nambucca Heads public school 1970-72. Then Macksville High School. No free milk there though.

I have no idea who came up with the idea of giving out small bottles of flavoured milk to primary school students in the early seventies, but I really liked the chocolate ones when I could get in early enough.

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 7:50 pm

Here’s the link to the Margaret smackdown.

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/

It’s really good.

shatterzzz
April 16, 2023 7:51 pm

Just waded my way thru 8 seasons (86 episodes) of SPIRAL .. excellent French detective series .. possibly, on of the best TV plod shows made .. well worth a look ..
If you like plod drama you’ll luv this ..!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477507/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_7_nm_1_q_spiral

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 16, 2023 7:52 pm

The best character in the Marvel Universe….Phil Coulson.

Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D – Hive’s True Form

Grant Ward as Hive was cool, too.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 7:52 pm

The McLaren:

Duk duk duk

I’m a bounder

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 7:52 pm

The Australian has contacted Senator Thorpe for comment.

The Oz is allowing comments, it will be interesting to see how long it is before they go down the memory hole.

Crossie
Crossie
April 16, 2023 7:52 pm

Never heard of flavoured milk in those days.

We flavoured our own milk at home with Nestles Quick. I had chocolate and my sisters preferred strawberry.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
April 16, 2023 7:53 pm

omg … flavoured milk is pretty posh

You could buy straws with chocolate inside them for a while, stick them in plain milk but get chocolate milk in your mouth. We got school milk too, we all lived on dairy farms and were brought up on full cream milk, homemade butter and ice-cream, yet they still deliverd warm bottles of milk. The stupidity of it didn’t last too long however, I think our parents laughed the authorities out of the idea.

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 7:53 pm

Ponder this, what would have happened to one of Ms Thorpe’s very distant Aboriginal female ancestors, pre-European settlement, if she’d screamed at a man accusing him of having a small penis.

I wonder how tribal law would have dealt with her?

Roger
Roger
April 16, 2023 7:55 pm

As one of the men said, “how the f*ck does someone get in parliament like you”.

You can thank the Greens for that.

Mind you, the alternative canddiate was Julian Burnside.

Dot
Dot
April 16, 2023 7:55 pm

I think we need to platform Lidia Thorpe and let everyone hear her reasonable views.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 16, 2023 7:55 pm

“Any black man that stands with the f*** white little c*** like that, youse can all get f***** too”

God it’s a hag.

Winston Smith
April 16, 2023 7:56 pm

Dot:

Lime flavoured milk???
You’re having a lend, surely?

Nope – even I remember the little green bottles of lime flavoured milk.

MatrixTransform
April 16, 2023 7:56 pm

Here’s the link to the Margaret smackdown

thank you

actually just saw it on the missus’ phone

she’s on the pace

Indolent
Indolent
April 16, 2023 7:56 pm

This is about Tiffany Dover, who collapsed on camera shortly after receiving the jab in 2021.

2023.04.15 About That Nurse (Line B Is The Longest)

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 16, 2023 7:57 pm

From Courier Mail.
Controversial independent senator Lidia Thorpe has been video delivering a profanity-riddled rant to a group of men outside a north Melbourne strip club early on Sunday.

The footage was captured on the pavement outside Maxine’s Gentleman’s Club at around 3am as Ms Thorpe was leaving the venue after celebrating a friends’ 50th birthday.

Ms Thorpe can clearly be seen pointing, swearing and trading insults with a group of men.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 7:57 pm

If Fiona Apple had a sandwich she would have been a 10/10 almost.

On a bad day. Usually she hovers around the 13/13 level.
I’m not going to link any of hers in case my keyboard melts.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 7:57 pm

I wonder how tribal law would have dealt with her?

Both legs smashed, and left behind to die, when the tribe moved on?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 16, 2023 7:58 pm

what would have happened to one of Ms Thorpe’s very distant Aboriginal female ancestors, pre-European settlement, if she’d screamed at a man accusing him of having a small penis.

I wonder how tribal law would have dealt with her?

Suffice to say that to call an indig lady person a ‘big hole’ is about the worst insult one can deliver.

That’s how they would have dealt with her. Prior to having her skull fractured and left for the meat ants.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 16, 2023 7:58 pm

I probably cop a proverbial flogging. You have nice boobies…based on your avatar from years back when you visited the States.

Thank you, Steve. That was in March 2020 when we visited my elderly aunt in Louisiana, having been thrown off our Panama cruise due to Covid – not due to Covid on board, but due to the panic.

Yes, my natural boobies have always been an asset (there, I’ve said it again). Yet I was fairly under-developed myself until about fifteen or sixteen, when I blossomed. Still quite reasonable, even at eighty. That’s oestrogen HRT for you. Keeps everything firm. Bushie did say he didn’t really believe I was as old as I claimed, so that was a recent compliment at our Bendigo meet up. And I am never one to reject those, especially from a tall handsome farmer in a country checked-shirt and denim jerkin whom Hairy said was centre-row forward material.

I feel so sorry for the young girls today getting mastectomies due to gender confusions. Breast feeding a baby is such a joy that they’ll miss out on if they decide to get real again and return to being female.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Just waded my way thru 8 seasons (86 episodes) of SPIRAL

Thanks for the reminder Shatterzzzz.
It’s on “my list”.

bons
bons
April 16, 2023 7:59 pm

Matrix,
I can’t get the link to work (clutz) but here is the address.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/04/thank-you-margaret.html

Indolent
Indolent
April 16, 2023 7:59 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 16, 2023 8:01 pm

From Courier Mail.
Controversial independent senator Lidia Thorpe has been video delivering a profanity-riddled rant to a group of men outside a north Melbourne strip club early on Sunday.

I don’t think the fair Lidia will be short of Press coverage for her little rant.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 16, 2023 8:01 pm

H B Bearsays:

April 16, 2023 at 4:07 pm

I’ve surfed all over the world but the surfing strip from Schnappers to Kirra is the best in the world.

Few blokes from around Margaret River would happily have that argument for Yallingup to Augusta.

Some surfers do crazy shit in pursuit of the perfect wave.
Out on the fishing boat a few weeks ago and we got close in to shore on the way back.
The skipper points out these blokes scrabbling down steep cliffs, hanging on with one hand and the board under the other. They throw the board in from the last six feet or so and launch in after it. Apparently there is a reef about 200-300 metres offshore which consistently throws up a pretty good break. Even with a gentle swell elsewhere they were getting some epic waves.
But absolute madness getting in and out.

Crossie
Crossie
April 16, 2023 8:02 pm

This is not the first time this year that Ms Thorpe has attracted controversy.

Apparently ran on Channel 7 tonight.

It was, I saw it.

Cassie of Sydney
April 16, 2023 8:02 pm

Thorpe needs her own reality show, it would compete with MAFS.

By the way, I’m still waiting for the stupid effing Liberals to put up a motion to censure the slag Thorpe. I do recall how they willingly supported a motion to censure Bettina Arndt back in early 2020. Or is this more spinelessness from the Liberals and Nationals?

Rabz
April 16, 2023 8:03 pm

Controversial independent senator Hydia Thorpey was recorded on video delivering a profanity-riddled rant to a group of man bunned knobheads outside a north Melbourne strip club early on Sunday

Well, thank goodness I missed that seemingly interminable moment in irredeemable idiocy.

C.L.
C.L.
April 16, 2023 8:03 pm

I hate to say this but most of these Thorpe one-eight ‘Aborigines’ seem to resent that they’re not passably white.

Winston Smith
April 16, 2023 8:06 pm

Bruce O’Nuke:

I have no idea who came up with the idea of giving out small bottles of flavoured milk to primary school students in the early seventies, but I really liked the chocolate ones when I could get in early enough.

Albert Park Public School 1958 – first day there and I found out about the chocolate milk mafia, and got into my first fight (at that school) when I arrived early at the milk crates and helped myself.

Indolent
Indolent
April 16, 2023 8:07 pm
C.L.
C.L.
April 16, 2023 8:09 pm

Barrister Ishita Sethi on Stoker (occasionally on Sky panels) a very impressive contributor to discussions.

Rabz
April 16, 2023 8:10 pm

Hydia Thorpey, addressing a bunch of bums in laneway at 3:00am:

“Youse f***ing white little c*** like that, youse can all get f***** too and you can go and stick a F***king big c*#* up your house sized a*#*s you white colonialist c*#ts, I tells ya!”

I’m tempted to apply for a gig as her impromptu speech writer. After applying more nugget boot polish than Stan and Turdeauxm put together.

Crossie
Crossie
April 16, 2023 8:10 pm

The footage was captured on the pavement outside Maxine’s Gentleman’s Club at around 3am as Ms Thorpe was leaving the venue after celebrating a friends’ 50th birthday.

A Gentleman’s Club? With strippers? Or are they still called exotic dancers? I would have thought Lidia would disapprove of the exploitation. But then again her friendships indicate otherwise.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
April 16, 2023 8:11 pm

So if the ‘Voice’ gives us an aboriginal House of Lords, where will they sit? Is there another big chamber in Parliament House? Or will they sit out on the grass in front of Old Parliament House so they can punch on in peace and conduct other ‘cultural’ practices?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 16, 2023 8:11 pm

The best character in the Marvel Universe….Phil Coulson.

Seconded. “Help me Obi Wan Kenobi you’re my o…”.
Excellent straight man.
I think Cobie Smulders would be a pretty good Honor Harrington, or Gal Gadot.

Jorge
Jorge
April 16, 2023 8:13 pm

Lidia-speak: ‘we’ve been oppressed.’

Translation: ‘I’m pissed and foul mouthed and ready to rumble.’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 16, 2023 8:14 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:

April 16, 2023 at 7:13 pm

Renoir and Rubens painted beautiful images of well-rounded well-fed women.

a.k.a. fat chicks.
Like you might see towards the end of a Kraut opera.
As in, “it’s not over until …”

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