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Excellent stuff Crossie. Quadrant is a bloody good cause because it doesn’t get funded like the Lefty causes.
Look at these Canadian Pigs with their faces covered up. Absolute bullsh*t! That should not be allowed. Rebel News HQ:…
Good man – not the first time you’ve responded to my ‘gentle prodding.’
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Let’s see if there is a common thread running through the collected works of Joe Vialls.
All roads lead to Tel Aviv according to Joe.
Joe died in 2004 from a heart attack.
No doubt induced by a poison administered by Mossad.
Completely agree.
The first thing that stands out is ‘assuming the consequent’ aka ‘begging the question’ in Vialls nutty screed. Well, second thing; the first is the use of ALL CAPS to show how IMPORTANT his words are.
Charlie don’t surf.
Gimme Shelter – Apocalypse Now
Chris/Digger.
Agree.
It is possible that Bryant might have been “inspired” by others and somewhat influenced by the media, but he had an extremely violent predisposition anyway.
What isn’t in doubt is that he did it and he did it alone.
No help from Tel Aviv.
Well thank my stars for Joe Vialls.
I knew about Mossad and Shin Bet, but not the Mistaravim.
Why would the Israelis use border guard covert operators blending in as Palestinians to execute the Port Arthur false flag psy op?
This is too clever for me. God knows what their motivation would be given how widespread gun ownership is for Israeli settlers and the IDF openly carrying.
I think others can be blamed, they really were not and grabbing guns was seen as a better idea.
What cafe fire?
Talk about making it up as you go along.
Government don’t need to kill people in order to take their guns.
They do far worse without a blink or shame.
But wait, there’s more …
The Mossad tsunami, eh?
Can’t accuse Joe of not thinking big.
Not surprisingly, Joe was a big hit with the Mueslis in Indonesia and elsewhere.
What Bryant actually had
Oooh BABY! In one sports bag too!
from the same article
Are you suggesting someone added an extra zero to the quantity of ammunition?
The hallmark of the conspiracy theorist like Joe is the overwhelming need to be seen to have superior knowledge and special insights not possessed by mere mortals.
Which, in the competitive world of the innernet rabbit-hole, can lead to a phenomenon known as “making shit up”.
I think that was his total stockpile.
He had plenty of cash from his “inheritance”.
Panzer and Duk
You both sound the same.
Boldly stating conclusions that appear out of nowhere, with no firm reason to believe them.
If you aren’t citing primary sources, you’re just shooting the breeze (bad pun not intended).
At least Duk admits he does not know what happened. I reckon that “to know” ultimately means originating from your own bodily senses, so the only people who could say they “know” what happened were the survivors who were there. Everybody else, Duk, Panzer, Digger, myself, everybody, we are doing one of 2 things: choosing to believe the words of others, OR interpreting physical evidence in a particular way (and perhaps not the only way).
It also does not help to conjure strawman arguments that your sparring partner has never stated. Really, Panzer, when did Duk ever say that the conspiracy required hundreds of insiders? That “Joe Vialls” character, okay he sounds a bit obsessed with a certain middle eastern spy agency, but he does not need to correctly state who *did* do the crime in order to point out exculpatory evidence or unlikelihoods about who (he thinks) did *not* do the crime. So his error (?? presumably, I mean it’s a long way to fly for no apparent national goal) in naming the real culprit does not logically count against his critique of the conviction. That comes off as just a bit more ad hominem.
Sources. You guys gotta get back to original sources to have a decent argument. At least that’s what seeking the truth should lead to. Or you could just say (drum roll) “I don’t know.”
Quite! … and wasn’t it handy that the perp plead guilty so his story could never be examined in court, and the key forensics on the murder weapons were also impossible due to mysterious explosions in both of them!
We shall just have to rely on what the government and the media told us I guess … our ‘single source of truth’ eh? H/T Saint Jacinda.
The one that destroyed the Seascape the next morning, forcing Bryant out of the building, seriously burning him, and also burning the 2 weapons he is supposed to have used, including the FN which was later found on the roof of a separate building (which did not catch fire). … that latter point you have to admit is ‘curious’ no?
watch the short video?
While not having a dog in this fight, as the American expression goes, I heard that the Tasmanian Police were very anxious not to have Bryant go to trial. Not only had they ignored Bryant for years while he drove around in an unregistered car shooting near built up areas, but there were major inconsistencies in
the Police narrative, including the alleged firearms used – as Dr Duk suggests.
I heard Police suggested to Bryant that he plead guilty ASAP – they did not want close review of such issues by a competent defense in a prolonged trial – which would have been harrowing for the survivors, too.
This was addressed by putting Bryant in with other prisoners who took full advantage of this simple newcomer with long blond hair and a rather gender neutral air. From time to time over some days, maybe longer, Bryant was asked if he might like to end the bashing and raping by entering a guilty plea – if so he would be moved to secure accommodation. Eventually Bryant could not endure things and agreed to plead as suggested.
True? Don’t know – this what I was told years ago by a relative who had an acquaintance in gaol in Tasmania in 1996.
One thing about Labor no matter how incompetent eg Palachook .They stood by her until she learned the ropes.When she started and did know the GST.
AS for Dutton the hatred here is astounding.
win says:
May 15, 2023 at 1:48 am
I see it differently, not so much hatred of Dutton, but despair of his and his party’s ineffectual performance.
For what it’s worth, I never saw him as a foreman material.
Shows how shallow the talent pool is in the lib party. And mentioning ‘talent’ itself is a joke when the whole bunch consists of talentless shelve-serving grubs.
Don’t usually correct spelling mistakes, they are easily worked out, but how on earth self-serving got turned into that?
Johannes Leak #1.
Peter Broelman.
David Rowe.
Bob Moran.
Morten Morland.
Andy Davey.
Peter Brookes.
Dave Brown.
Michael Ramirez #1.
A.F. Branco.
Tom Stiglich.
Chip Bok.
Lisa Benson.
Ben Garrison.
I’d suggest more than one extra zero. I think he’d need a decent sized lorry for 150,000 rounds.
For reference, the average USMC rifleman in the assault on Fallujah carried 360-560 rounds of 5.56(.223) ammo on his person.
I see trudging through the Port Arthur massacre – again – became de rigeur overnight, with confirmation bias riding high and proud. Let’s see then. From the link at 10.45:
‘Calculate reliably’. Ah, no.
No.
Also no, and even if you were going down this path it would not be wise – or accurate – to compare US to Australian battlecraft. The US model involves hosing everything in sight. The Australian model does not.
Yes. Correct. On the premise that the shooter was being bitten by an ocelot and playing the accordion while firing. As was correctly noted (by Digger, I think) this was frozen fish in a barrel time.
It is interesting that people will believe this ‘hard science’ while believing other things promoted as ‘hard science’ to be ‘government lies’.
This is the most egregious example of horseshit in the entire piece, which is saying something. It also infers what some desperately, desperately want to believe – which is that a cadre of SF from somewhere fast-roped into the cafe and conducted a massacre before mysteriously disappearing, and leaving the local retard holding the bag.
The reason for this episode was, of course, a casus belli for the WEF’s confiscation of all the citizenry’s guns so they could easily be enslaved. Part of Klaus’ plan for one world government, of course.
Here’s another belter from the same piece:
Not only could the author not differentiate between blast and noise, he has also clearly not been in a room the size of a small cafe when rounds from ARs – and/or all their variants – have been discharged.
‘Huge’ is not the droid the author’s looking for. You barely need hearing protection for the things – in fact, the most noticeable noise when firing them is the sound of the spring working in the butt.
‘Huge muzzle blast’. Yeah righto.
Oh – also:
Nobody, and I mean nobody, should be using the words ‘recoil’ and ‘AR15’ in the same sentence – unless that AR15 was running at full auto, which it wasn’t.
Foxbody at 1.12:
The Tasmanian jacks were extremely anxious about the coronial process, not the trial – most notably because they had so little ability to combat what was happening at Port Arthur that they had to get the Victorian SOG flown over the Strait in choppers
Hang on. Didn’t someone overnight say Bryant had only used an air rifle previously?
Again, that’s a coronial issue rather than a criminal trial matter. If there were things that were ‘overlooked’, then Julian Knight in Hoddle Street in 1987 may have had an argument as well. But he didn’t.
Wait for it.
‘Do some research.’
‘It’s puzzling, don’t you think?’
‘Educate yourself.’
‘Interesting theories.’
‘Melting point of steel.’
Bryant, by the way, was initially separated from the mainstream population at Risdon Prison due to fears he’d be killed.
When he began interacting with other prisoners, though, he was removed again – not because he was being preyed upon, but because he was (and remains) a predator.
Forget about that evil Martin Bryant being responsible for Port Arthur, I now learn that it was an evil Zionist/Mossad/CIA cabal operation, in other words……………..da Jews!
Street Theatre, Deep State Style.
Khaki-clad Potemkin Patriots stage a March in DC to lend credence to Biden String-pullers assertion that white supremacy is the real threat.
Gateway Pundit.
Knuckle Dragger says:
May 15, 2023 at 6:33 am
Wait for it.
Some cooker theories makes me think for a microsecond, then I remember all of the above and say, nah.
At the same time I think, I could be wrong, but better be on the sane side.
Still, paranoids can have real enemies too.
I don’t know, some of the stuff we get from the governments are also questionable but not debatable in the MSM, so there is that.
“Anchor Whatsays:
May 15, 2023 at 6:45 am
Street Theatre, Deep State Style.
Khaki-clad Potemkin Patriots stage a March in DC to lend credence to Biden String-pullers assertion that white supremacy is the real threat.
Gateway Pundit.”
What, no Tiki Torches!?
They’re spraying us again.
Radars.
As I have been away from you norks for a couple of days, I thought I would ease my way back into the conversation. Tiki Torches first.
Then, the Manual of Military Marvels.
Thanks Chris, for your post last night at 10:38.
It’s a thought provoking description of media driving the narrative. We see it in all sorts of ways, especially the last few years re Covid and the interminable climatey “we’re all doooooomed” gibberish. And now “The Voice”, which is more “The Nag”.
As you point out, certain acts of violence come in waves. We know what churns the waters.
– Heavily cops escorted/protected
– No visible tattoos or even skin in some cases (carefully covered via sleeves or strategically placed armbands)
– Not only Balaclava style face masks but huge sunglasses to defeat facial recognition software
– Nobody interested enough, or allowed to, follow them back to their transport and get pictures of license plates and un-masked faces.
Nah, nothing sus about that.
Of course the Gov overlords narrative is always 100% true.
Bahhhhhhhhh
Progressivism In A Nutshell: Defund The Police, Decriminalize Most Crime, Then Sue The Auto Companies For Causing Car Theft?
City authorities in Milwaukee, Baltimore, St. Louis, and Seattle – all Democrat-run cities – are suing car makers Kia and Hyundai for “not doing enough to prevent [their] cars being stolen,” amid skyrocketing rates of carjackings.
Yeah, those darn cars just keep hijacking themselves. Couldn’t have anything to do with this stuff right?
Teens face only misdemeanor charges — of criminal trespassing — after crashing stolen car, killing infant in Chicago
9-Year-Old Boy Denied Kidney Transplant to Save His Life Because He Doesn’t Have COVID Vaccination
Oooh boy. Started with Chris last night, then read further. Yikes! Forget the eye witnesses. What would they know, poor buggers?
It had to be Shady Government Forces. Only question is…which government?
I’m picking Subterranean Lizard People.
China tightens stranglehold on Latin America and Caribbean… as Biden dithers: Generals warn that Beijing has built a SPACE STATION in Argentina that could blind US, signed 21 countries up to trade pact and bought key ports on Panama Canal
DHS Chief Mayorkas Says It’s “Sad and Tragic” When Governors Secure Their States’ Borders Amid Invasion
LOL. Keep drinking that .gov koolaid.
The Cargo Cult Mentality Behind “White Privilege”
Apropos of Government narratives:
For almost a thousand years Parliaments have been around (in England, Henry III kicked them off in the 1260s).
From that day to this day, governments have lied to their citizens. Before governments, Kings lied to their subjects. And they will continue to do so, in furtherance of their own self-interest.
This undeniable state of affairs does NOT mean everything shit that happens is a small cog in a giant, unseen global machine dedicated to enslaving the human race in tunnels and using it as a source of adrenochrome and red shoes.
The harbingers of constant doom from multiple sources, and who desperately want this to happen will die unfulfilled, without the satisfaction of saying a final ‘I told you so’ and being deafened by the sound of bow ties spinning at 9000rpm.
Anyone who believes anything the .gov says is a fucn idiot.
Filed under risible nonsense, again.
Biden Admin Launches Initiative to Train Public How to Spot ‘Radical’ Conservatives and Fight ‘Domestic Terrorism’
I believe it when they say I’ll get a fine if I don’t lodge my BAS on time.
Elites manufacture fake “hate” crisis as pretext for mass spying, blacklists, and censorship
If you’re not protecting yourself through daily iodine baths, you’re mad.
Mad, I say!
Or I shouldn’t drive around the boom gates if a train is approaching.
Also stop at the red light, go at the green.
And that Darwin is a really nice place to visit
What KoolAid? The “theorists” can’t even get their theory right.
The fire was in the B&B, not the cafe. There appears to be an anomaly on the weapons used, and the quantity of ammo carried as opposed as to what was in the stash. The eye witnesses, and there were many, all saw pretty much the same thing.
Now we find that the writer theorising is a Protocols kinda a guy. And there it ends. There are plenty of other sites to peddle this garbage on. And not hard to find at all.
Reminds me of a joke.
There were once Empires ruled by Emperors…
Then Kingdoms ruled by Kings…
Now we have Countries ruled by…
Crossie:
“Tolerance” is the creed of the coward who will never stand up for their Nation, their Culture, and themselves.
They get to think of themselves as superior, wrapping themselves in their blanket of warm, smug condescension, while they could get the same effect by eating lima beans and farting.
Effective lying requires a plausible narrative.
The dishonesty of government is more sophisticated than “if A, then B is true”.
Haven’t they branded practicing Catholics as radical? Thank goodness “devout” Catholics like Biden who advocate for abortion are exempt.
Bryant admitted to buying 3000 rounds from one Terry Hill who apparently had no problem selling weapons to him, for cash, even though Bryant didn’t have a gun licence.
The Public Trustee probably didn’t have a choice other than hand over large sums whenever Bryant wanted from his considerable inheritance from the elderly woman he befriended.
He also apparently set fire to the BMW he’d stolen.
Low iq or no he was judged competent to stand trial.
He knew what he was doing was wrong.
Did Pogria just describe us as Norks?
This trans stuff is off the charts.
A “Radical Conservative” is now a conservative who talks back. Wrongthink is only a heartbeat away.
Apparently it’s all okay because staff can join the CPSU and might even get little pay bumps.
And there was me thinking some might work at Calvary because they wanted to work in a Catholic Hospital and didn’t want to participate in abortion.
the Mandarin on the Calvary Hospital forced acquisition
from the waiting to be silenced Catholic Voice
There is a petition at the link for those who wish to support Calvary.
Things Mossad are responsible for, according to Joe Vialls:-
– The 2004 Boxing Day tsunami
– Port Arthur
– Trevor Chappell’s underarm vs NZ
– Lockerbie bombing
– Pineapple on pizza
– Blind factory adverts on 3AW
– The murder of WPC Yvonne Fletcher outside the Libyan embassy in London
– Marriott Hotel bombing in Jakarta
– Princess Diana’s death (obviously)
– The Wayne Harmes “out of bounds” incident in the 1979 grand final
– Prince Harry wearing a Nazee uniform
Here’s the thing.
I am not going to be lectured to “check my sources” by someone quoting directly from an anti-Semitic nut-job.
Is the Japanese government really bad, Razey-san?
“Here’s the thing.
I am not going to be lectured to “check my sources” by someone quoting directly from an anti-Semitic nut-job.”
Yep.
Governments ride the zeitgeist, because politicians by and large are physical* and moral cowards. There are parallels between the shaming of the populace to surrender firearms and the confected shame-nagging of The Voice.
The media and activists (no longer mutually exclusive) stir the pot with endless clickbait and agitation, politicians who may or may not be in on it respond with what they think is a popular solution to a non-existent problem, and we are then brainwashed or beaten by both using our own taxpayer dollars.
Rinse and repeat. There will always be another mountain to climb another “wrong” to put right. Elliot Carver was a template, not an outlier.
* the last truly brave thing I’ve seen a politician do was when John Feahy stood between Charles and a numbnut with a firearm (which turned out to be a starting pistol but he didn’t know that at the time).
A Brief History of Disease Hysteria
Another thing the naughty boys of Mossad are responsible for; Jewshi! Very yummy.
RADIOACTIVE PANIC: Russians Missiles Hit Ukrainian Ammunition Depot in Khmelnytsky Causing Massive Explosion – Cache of British Depleted Uranium Tank Shells Destroyed – Gamma Radiation Spikes in the Region’s Atmosphere
Calli,
John Fahey was a country boy, hence the unthinking bravery. On the other hand, I can’t envisage the Beetrooter throwing himself in front of anybody to protect them.
I had met him a couple of times years ago. Soft spoken, unfailingly polite. A good man.
Bernie’s Tweets
@BernieSpofforth
SERBIA – Protestors want their WEF servant President to resign. The breakdown of traditional Serbian values wasn’t part of what they thought they were voting for.
Nudging the people to accept Globalist ideology isn’t going down well!
Star Wars has been rebooted by Wes Anderson. The trailer shows promise. 😉
Witness says she went back to ‘thank’ Daniel Penny after Jordan Neely chokehold death, is ‘praying’ for him
I’m watching as Duk uses a word – ‘curious’ – in a way that he (and any other investigator) would use in a forensic investigation, and gets piled on by people who use the word ‘curious’ in a totally different context.
I’d suggest we go back and read Duks post within the context he wrote it in.
And for those who aren’t interested in searching, I’ll repost it:
So if one is investigating/looking at evidence, it is ‘curious’.
“1. deviating from what is standard, normal, or expected.”
Kid mess of Joe Biden’s making at border
One thing I admire about governments is their ability to seamlessly transform from parp-parp-wheeee Clown Circus in their day jobs – to ultra-effective conspiratorial masterminds, show-running improbably complex plots that would put Blofeld to shame.
There are some Iron Rules in judging government malfeasance:
• Always bet on self interest;
• It’s the cover up that kills;
• Follow the money;
• Cockup over conspiracy.
Here’s Bryant 25 years on: dim, fat, and exchanging blowjobs for chocolate.
Amazing that he’s been left alive as a loose end.
Miranda Devine
@mirandadevine
This guy is a menace. He’s creating the greatest threat by facilitating an invasion at the southern border. And presides over a disinformation infrastructure that criminalizes dissent.
Er no, the 5.56 is a centrefire and is definitely very loud, especially inside a confined space like a building, producing 155dB, the same as a .308 (156dB) or a 12g shotgun (151-161 dB). I agree the muzzle blast would be less, but still substantial, but the noise is not so quiet it ‘barely need(s) hearing protection’.
For reference, the pain threshold is around 140 dB, and given the base 10 exponential nature of the dB chart, 155dB is well over 10x more intense that the pain threshold, and ONE exposure can cause hearing damage, let alone 29 shots in 90 seconds.
https://earinc.com/gunfire-noise-level-reference-chart/
I know a friend who suffered *permanent* hearing loss after ONE unprotected shot of a rimfire .17HMR, which produces around 147dB.
I always double up (earplugs and earmuffs) when shooting centrefire from even a partial enclosure, like a covered stand at a gun-range.
No it’s not, it’s a rabbit hole of irrelevance for anyone who’s familiar with the circumstances of the mass murder at Port Arthur.
Anyone here that can’t see the difference probably thinks women breastfeeding their babies ‘in public!’ is on a par with masturbating in public.
Bruce O’Nuke:
I like that music – Good beat.
Zatarasays:
May 15, 2023 at 7:11 am
Khaki-clad Potemkin Patriots stage a March in DC to lend credence to Biden String-pullers assertion that white supremacy is the real threat.
– Heavily cops escorted/protected
– No visible tattoos or even skin in some cases (carefully covered via sleeves or strategically placed armbands)
– Not only Balaclava style face masks but huge sunglasses to defeat facial recognition software
– Nobody interested enough, or allowed to, follow them back to their transport and get pictures of license plates and un-masked faces.
Nah, nothing sus about that.
Much like our recent outbreaks of Grampians Nazis?
I’d never compare the report of a .17 HMR to a centrefire but I shoot out in the open.
My .243 makes a noise and I wear ear protection when I’m zeroing it and ear buds in the ute – tends to give you a Boom Box effect.
Pogria which one, John Fahey or the beetrooter?
Duk
Joe V, really?
Miranda may find herself being deported back home to Australia if she continues with this.
I tried joining the Grampian Nasties but when I found out that there no lederhosen, Oompah bands, Hugo Boss outfits and Bratwurst that was me done with them. On the other hand they sais they wouldn’t have me coz I’d been saying mean things to Munty and Nut Case.
they said
And get a load of the turtlehead explaining to us the different contexts when using words. FMD.
Quite frankly, that was a good thing, if it is in the rules, so be it.
Like mankadding. If it’s bad, change the rules.
Then again, they could change the rules each year like the NRL, to please the League Tag Soccer Karen Mums, who think little Billy will be signed to the South Melbourne Cronulla Hawks as flanker (LOL) along with John Aloisi.
Crossie,
I realised what I had done when I re-read my comment. John Fahey of course.
Thanks for the heads up.
It is early and I have been watching fit young men armed with chainsaws cutting trees down on my place and feeding them into a mega-mulcher. My grammar is suffering because I have been a little distracted. 😀
Bringing back British Leyland.
In 1188 Alfonso IX, King of Leon (in current day Spain) convened the three states in the Cortes of León and according to UNESCO it was the first sample of modern parliamentarism in the history of Europe
You are scum, sir. And not truly elected scum at that.
Arky:
My understanding was that she miscarried, which – emotionally – is a very different thing to aborting.
Does anyone know?
Crazy bullshit from Medium.
#1 Gay guy writes article about Meatball that Andrew Anglin would be proud of.
Ron DeSantis: The Fascist Weirdo Beast of Florida Politics Who Will Never Be President
DeSantis is trying to position himself as a cold-blooded culture warrior in the mold of Trump. But he’s just such a weird little guy
The political landscape in the United States is a murky cesspool of corruption, greed, and power.
And in the fever swamps of the conservative imagination — and in Florida — a man more beast than human has emerged. Ron DeSantis, Governor of the Disney state and potential presidential candidate has been called everything from “Trump with a brain” to “a strange no-eye-contact oddball.”
What we know at this point is that his teeth are sharp, his claws are lethal, and his skin is tough. He is shrewd, calculating, and probably soulless. Everything you need to run for president. Everything except Trump’s charisma.
#2 It’s okay to be supergay (or superstraight)
Confronting My Transphobia as a Gay Man
As a gay man, I always prided myself on being open-minded and accepting of all individuals, regardless of their race, gender identity, or sexual orientation. However, it wasn’t until recently that I realized that my beliefs were not as inclusive as I thought they were. In fact, I had been transphobic without even realizing it. But through education, self-reflection, and a desire to be a better ally, I was able to overcome my transphobia and become a better, more understanding person.
From the (very gullible) comments:
For me, the biggest eye opener was hearing about a transgender woman who used to be straight as a man, but now as a woman had become a lesbian.
It was a real eye opener for me, because it told me that gender identity and sexuality were not automatically linked; they were (or could be) independent of one another. The guy’s straightness did not disappear after he had become a woman, so she became gay.
Please stop enabling this mental illness stuff. Most trans people are deeply unahppy and only get worse after they transition. That’s just the cold hard facts. Homosexuality is observed in nature, self mutilation is incredibly rare.
Yes, Winston, I understood the use of “curious”, because that’s second nature to me too.
But I refuse to assuage my curiosity by accepting the theories of a Mossad Stole My Shoes type. There are plenty of other sources to garner information.
I found Digger’s comment interesting too. A trained person can assess a situation much faster than a room full of average citizens out for an early cuppa. Take the NYC subway incident for example. The marine knew how to respond to the threat…and now he’s being punished.
LOL, blockquote fail!
I met Johm Fahey a few times when he was Premier and I was working in The Cabinet Office.
He was very personable, unaffected and charming. Unfortunately, he wasn’t very bright, and the senior public servants ran rings around him.
Signed the petition Rosie.
The Grampian Nazis won’t have me either. Too right wing for them, being Socialists and all.
As for the Potemkin Patriots, I’d have to get an ESTA first. Except I could pretend I’m Mexican and cross that way.
The uniforms are a bit daggy though.
Morn all.
What cracking, news looks still as vacuous as ever, sleazy still sleazing and seems like interest rate hikes aren’t finished. Go figure…
My 2 weeks of fun. Had a vehicle completely stuck 40 deg angle leaning against a creek wall that the recovery guys after WTF took 4 hours to extract. Entered despite the crossing point clearly marked 20m upstream, realised the far bank was insurmountable then tried to turn to straddle a V shaped channel to get to said crossing point when he came unstuck with RHS wheels off ground.
Had a case of hypothermia, yup actual case that was backloaded out by QAS. Temps dropping into single figures inland now and said casualty had no warm clothing.
Fun & games. Enjoy your Monday all. Think I might have a counter lunch fore my first day in.
This week at the Sofronoff Inquiry sees Steve Whybrow in the box. It’s not clear – apart from Tedeschi – who will try to eviscerate him. He will probably be a vehicle to batter hapless Drumgold. (BTW, I thought Drumgold dealt with the Wilkinson bleating quite well. She had a lawyer sitting beside her as she pressed Drumgold to clear her Lergie’s speech. Her lawyer is surely responsible for what Wilkinson did.)
Back to my point. Whybrow’s statement contains material that raises a question about whether rulings by McCallum CJ prejudiced a fair trial. Such as: why was Whybrow not able to cross-examine Higgins about her evidence of what Reynolds and Cash said to her?
Really good hotdogs at Hall’s Gap.
Known to some as Frankfurts.
Frankfurts – mountains – Nasties.
the Eagle has built a Nest…repeat….the Eagle has built a Nest.
I scroll back and see I’ve suffered mild dyslexia over Fahey. Coffee deficit.
Stupid question, I know, but were there any repercussions for the TV station that put out the “This is how you acquire your illegal weapons and ammunition for your mass murder project” show?
Dot, “homosexuality is observed in nature”, nature observes homos don’t preserve the species. I’m pretty sure homosexuality in nature is practice for the real thing, not a conga-line in a bathhouse.
Don’t you just love the Labor Pardy’s approach to lessening the road toll! A grants program to improve data collection. More snouts in more troughs. Oh and its target of zero deaths by 2050. Sort of like no child shall live in poverty target. From the ABC Pravda daily bulletin:
Senator Brown said $43.6 million had been committed in last week’s federal budget, over four years, to establish a grants program for road safety, including data collection.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-14/road-toll-rises-in-almost-every-state-and-territory/102338652
Then why choose an anti-Semitic nut-job as your source to demonstrate your (ahem) “sciency curiosity”?
calli I didn’t know countries were ruled by trees
Ja!
Achtung!
The Krauts always shouted “Achtung!” at each other in the war comics I read as a kid.
Dunno what it means.
Presumably it is complimenting another on the cut of his lederhosen or something.
Which got me thinking about WW2.
Did it really happen?
How can we know?
I’m curious.
Local library yesterday with a trolley of books awaiting reshelving. Mein Kampf in big red letters stood out.
Brought down from the Grampians and smuggled through the police checkpoint in Melton, I suppose.
???
Ramirez’s TDS looks to be terminal.
sancho … you using a new ventriloquist doll today?
seriously though,
did it just use the exact same form of argument … an anti-Semitic nut-job…to make what it thinks is a logical point?
if it did, you better get rid of it because it’s a pretty stupid doll
The idea that a politician if they join the WEF they’re suddenly and irrevocably in the cult is a really trash fire level of idea; shoot, did Nixon become a Maoist after he visited China?
Many Western politicians despise the UN and the EU, does it mean Carl Benjamin and Daniel Hannan really were for the EU to remain?
I’d like to see any logical points Joe Vialls ever made.
The shitshow continues, Hun:
Enough of the depressing stuff – Wookada widdle faces!
I dunno who Joe Vialls even is.
oops … was
Signed, passed on Save Calvary petition to the usual suspects & correspondents.
https://www.catholicvoice.org.au/petition-to-save-calvary-hospital-bruce/
I wish I didn’t either.
If you’re after a bratwurst the QV markets are the go. Although they don’t heat the sauerkraut. You do get sauerkraut don’t you?
The idea that a politician if they join the WEF they’re suddenly and irrevocably in the cult is a really trash fire level of idea; shoot, did Nixon become a Maoist after he visited China?
No dot, I think the analogy breaks down. Anyone who is in the WEF is a lost cause.
“Robert Sewellsays:
May 15, 2023 at 9:46 am
Enough of the depressing stuff – Wookada widdle faces!”
Robert,
Ship’s Cat. 😀
Indolent:
But the Democrats don’t care – as long as the graft continues.
I note on the petition they assert:
You can just imagine how the ACT government (most government in Australia, probably) would defend themselves.
“Of course you must have freedom of religion. As long as you do it in the privacy of your home. With the lights off. Perhaps in a closet. Whispering the words into a shoe box which you must keep the lid on when not using it. But within those socially reasonable confines your freedom is absolute!”
I’m all for “happy” stories but gotta wonder at what is missing fom this one? ..
Save $50 000 by the time your 20 and then buy a house .. what sort of money can you borrow with only $50 000 as a deposit and, more importantly, what sort of security are you putting up? ..
read lotza tales of folks with twice that amount being knocked back for loans quite often ..!
Or are some financial institutions lending money on the “feel-good” where-you-came-from vibe for the sake of good publicity? ..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12082951/Peri-Ndakize-Son-buys-single-mum-house-Mothers-Day.html
Piers Morgan: “America has some of the fairest elections in the world” HA! Absolute BS!
He’s a dead set lying douchebag to be saying that and he does so deliberately. He’s not stupid, just another MSM agenda driven BS artist … as we all know.
Kari Lake handled him well.
Kari Lake and Piers Morgan Square Off Again
Ahoy Robert, I enjoy your well considered inputs and sense we have much in common … are you ever in the Adelaide Hills or Western Vic for a latte?
Incidentally, my recent use of the word ‘curious’ stems from the judge’s summing up after finding me not guilty on 4 fabricated charges laid at the Canberra protests. She labelled of the contrast between the 3 tightly correlated eye witness accounts told by the AFP of my ‘assault’ in Canberra, and my video evidence of said AFP admitting to me at the time that I had done no such thing – they ‘lost’ their body cam evidence of my innocence, allowing them to collude to ‘remember’ something different. Lucky for me I had my own cameras rolling.
Once a few more people here have gone through a similar experience, they may begin to join me in questioning some of the things our wise rulers say, particuarly where there are ‘curiosities’ about the evidence.
I assume the home was 500k and the deposit was 10%.
Good luck working 13 hour days for at least the next 28 years to afford that 450k mortgage at 6% interest (the same $641 saved/paid off per week).
Cassie:
So where did the Mossad theory come from? And who made the first reference to the peripheral theories?
FMD. Courier Mail:
I’m beginning to think this Pesutto chap doesn’t think things through.
JC: Ad hominem? really?
Sancho: ditto …
I started this whole thread by noting that labelling something a ‘conspiracy theory’ is not an argument … its been interesting to see all the usual suspects miss the point – reflective of our wider citizenry also.
Bet all the children are full bottle on gender issues and the “Voice.”
People have often asked how the “nazis” who are suddenly turning up at rallies across the Western world disappear without trace.
Now we know:
https://twitter.com/Mellecon/status/1657523791021449216
Hey, Titsoff!
Don’t tell me you’re a Joe Vialls fanboi too!
So.
Joe Vialls attributed all of the following to Mossad/CIA:-
– Port Arthur massacre;
– 2004 Boxing Day tsunami (yes, really);
– the murder of WPC Yvonne Fletcher outside the Libyan embassy in London;
– the Pan-Am Lockerbie bombing;
– the Australian Embassy and Marriott Hotel bombings in Jakarta;
– the death of Princess Diana;
– Prince Harry dressing as a Nazee;
What is the correct term for someone who assigns responsibility for all of those events to “Mossad/CIA”?
Yeah, I think “anti-Semitic nut-job” seems to be a pretty apt description.
Not much news that is interesting this morning. About the only story worth linking is Bowen being even stupider than usual.
‘Dumb idea’: Energy minister fires at Peter Dutton’s nuclear power plan, urging him to ‘come clean’ about the facts (Sky News, 14 May)
He is so Dunning-Kruger it’s hard to grasp. Almost everything he says is pretty much scientific and engineering rubbish.
CL,
I was gonna suggest they were using time-machines
but your video link makes more sense
try to stop being a wanker sancho
You don’t get to just dismiss it so easily by declaring “conspiracy theorist” a verboten term.
The seven events listed by me at 10:29 have all been cited by Vialls as the work of Mossad/CIA, which is clearly lunacy.
The 2004 tsunami?
Really?
If “conspiracy theory” is not an argument, where does “the government always lies” and “they’re coming for your super” and “only trust bitcoin, gold and guns” sit?
Well done Dot, breaking out of the matrix and asking to see the evidence! I would be happy to re-engage when you have done so. In particular, I await your (ad hominem free) refutation of Vialls’ concerns about:
– the unusually high kill to wound ratio (1.6:1)- at the level of a highly experienced operator, not a novice, both at close range inside the cafe, and at longer ranges outside it.
– the extremely high head/neck shot rate (19/20 of the victims in the cafe)
– the extremely high shot rate (the official timeline states 90 seconds to fire 29 rounds, killing 20 and wound 12, all the while ‘firing from the hip’
– the likelihood that an autistic imbecile who had never previously fired anything bigger than an airgun could expertly manage 2 different semi automatic weapons, including chosing the ideal platform (the AR) for the ‘inside work’ and the longer legged FN for the outside work.
– how said untrained imbecile managed to count to 29 with his first mag, then changed it before going on, ensuring no stoppage
– how *both* guns ended up not only burned (including the one not found in the burned out Seascape) but also blown up making forensic matching of those particular weapons to the recovered projectiles and casings impossible
Linky
http://www.whale.to/b/viallspam.html
I’m disappointed no one his given my theory on the death of Princess Diana the status of a conspiracy theory.
Try me.
It can’t be any sillier than “Tsunamis by Mossad”.
It has Prince Edward driving the white Renault. The rest is subscriber only.
Being a member has its upside, apparently.
Rumour has it (from a peckable source) that based on last night’s Cat debate, VicPol is to order another two light armoured vehicles.
Flyingduk:
Funny you should say that, because that was the usage – by the magistrate – that made me think of the differing meanings of the word you made when you used it!
Unfortunately, I live in the warm part of Australia Qld, Barcaldine. But I’m happy to converse via email – I’ll ask DB to send you mine.
There are several areas of military medicine/psychology I’d like to discuss with a doc.
Bryant’s victims were unarmed, in buildings with no viable escape, his victims were shot from close range and were often very young or elderly and he had hours to commit his crimes, he even set a diversion. Many laws were broken in his possession of those firearms (the NFA would not of stopped him if the pre existing laws were ignored anyway) and he was determined to be notorious.
If it took hours to receive medical care after being shot with a centre fire rifle at close range, I’m not surprised there was more dead than usual (the mass murder at Dunblane was committed with handguns, not centre fire rifles). If he shouldn’t be a in a nuthouse he is one of the very rare cases where he should have been hanged.
Also a bit of a problem to demand kids get their mathematics questions right when they are being told mathematics is White Patriarchal, right and wrong are judgmental and exclusionary. Then the written word, with its rules of grammar and orthography, is the very purist distillation of oppression.
I have occasionally quipped that a Year 8 maths teacher only needs to know Year 9 level mathematics to do their job, but truly just teaching a kid to spell is going to put them ahead of their teachers.
C.L.says:
May 15, 2023 at 10:20 am
People have often asked how the “nazis” who are suddenly turning up at rallies across the Western world disappear without trace.
Now we know:
https://twitter.com/Mellecon/status/1657523791021449216
FMD. I’m going to work. This country is cooked.
The Oz has two articles about treaties and reparations with Aboriginals. The comments are already several hundred and let’s say the subject is not helping the Voice campaign.
What is particularly annoying is that so called Opposition in Qld voted for the legislation last week and all in support.
I did not bother with a subscription because the paper has been moving to the left like a drunkard with only one shoe, but maybe the comments make it worth it.
Surely such matters were settled at the end of the Frontier Wars we hear so much about.
Three hours in and the guys have taken down four trees, with the two largest to go. Lots of fire wood piling up and huge mounds of very useful mulch. I love modern machinery and the guys who wield it!
Whybrow says “I was getting pissed off that Drumgold suggested I was taking ‘coaching points’ from Senator Reynolds.”
https://www.cjsinquiry.act.gov.au/public-hearings/livestream
One of the Lefts more effective tactics used when awkward questions get asked, is the immediate dragging in of ludicrous conspiracy theories which they bundle together with the awkward questions in an effort to discredit them.
Which is precisely what Sancho Panzer has done here.
Is there some confession you want to make Sancho?
Muddy:
Didn’t you ‘sort out’ Simons loyalty issues?
How come the ASIO Work Experience lad is still breathing?
I thought it was a good question but rejected.
“Will those currently being arrested for home invasions and car jacking etc be included in the reparations?”.
That’s because Crisafulli is a controlled opposition fag.
When the evil Chook passed her VAD laws, he was asked by Paul Murray (who was doing his usual, ‘I’m not judging, I only care about Da Kosta Living’) that he wouldn’t amend the legislation if elected to protect the conscientious rights of medicos in private hospitals. Leadership, he said, meant leaving such contentious matters rest. Murray was super-impressed.
I knew it.
My curiosity paid off.
Oh. The traditional ‘you must be a Communist then’ chestnut.
If the same bloke peddling this nonsense apropos of Port Arthur is also on record as saying the 2004 tsunami was a joint CIA/Mossad project, it’s not an effort to discredit.
It actually discredits it.
Someone buy Joe V a coffee. Big Tech is bound to shut him down now he’s blown the lid on Big SecrETs.
Any day now.
Err duk, my beliefs are out there for a standard conservative blog, let alone some of the LDP voters. I’m not trapped by the blue pill, I walked off the reservation a long time ago and now I languish in the jungles of Kampuchea where I am perpetually offended by the level of excise paid on cigarillos and pipe tobacco.
Viz my views on what sort of republic we ought to have. My perspective is alien to the mainstream debate.
Like people shitting their pants over 31 million paid for the third runway land in Sydney let alone the (frankly absurd) 11% payrise for all ABC staff when there is a public debt of 1360 bn AUD and taxes on housing are almost half of the price of a new home.
I just don’t get what these hairless apes are arguing over. Mainstream political debate is so superficial to me now, the only solace is listening to King Missile’s Sensitive Artist.
Sounds like an old pelt bounty.
wow Dot, I must congratulate you, you are one fast reader!! – but you missed the following:
1) According to the forensic experts, Bryant reportedly killed 20 and wounded 12 in the first *90 seconds* in the Broad arrow, almost all with head shots whilst firing from the hip. – he killed more than 1/2 the victims within less than 2 minutes – not hours, and the official record shows most were killed with single head shots – he *did not* corral them all, and spend his time popping them off at leisure, including those only wounded by the first shot.
2) The cafe was not a particularly small building… http://www.whale.to/b/images/broadarrow2.jpg are we to believe all these victims simply sat at one long table whilst he walked along it pulling the trigger (the link, btw shows he did not). There were multiple other rooms, doors and windows to flee to.
3) There were only 2 small children amongst the Port Arthur victims (the Mikacs, ages 3 and 6) and they were shout outside, not in the cafe there were also 2 teenagers amongst victims. The oldest was 72 and most were in their 30s, 40s, 50s or 60s: the victims were not ‘often very young or elderly’.
I started this thread by stating that labelling something a ‘conspiracy’ rather than examining the evidence (and conspiracies do exist btw – if they didnt, we would have no word for them) is not an arguement.
I pointed readers to a place where they could go down that ‘rabbit hole’ if they wished.
The last nearly 24 hours has been a cavalcade of the usual suspects instead arguing that they already know and don’t need to examine the contrary evidence, based, as usual on ad hominems, straw men and labelling.
For those who are still unaware what actually constitutes an argument, here are a couple of links:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqn9
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/225402024318?chn=ps&_ul=AU&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1AL603-3qQZO4Iot-of-6nQ30&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=225402024318&targetid=&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9071165&poi=&campaignid=15984321586&mkgroupid=&rlsatarget=&abcId=9300814&merchantid=522612189
causing damage to intangible cultural heritage areas that hold great significance to Quandamooka peoples,” the group said.
Wev can’t show you any evidence, but trust us.
PS, lotsa munni can solve the problem, Swiss banks only.
I don’t think it is hard to do what Bryant did. You don’t need to be ex military to have an opinion on this. Guns are not that hard to use. They’re a simple yet refined tool.
It is literally harder to learn how to drive a manual car than to use a firearm, ditto for a crash box truck.
No one needs a Cert IV or a B Eng to use a gun.
You don’t need a scope or a sharpshooter’s badge to hit human sized targets at short range.
1) regarding ‘the government always lies’ … I take the Crowder defence: ‘Change my mind’
2) regarding ‘coming for your super’ … I refer you to the existing taxes on super and the increases announced at the last budget
3) Regarding BTC… I would cite the relentless loss of value of the AUD since my childhood (a 17c icecream now costs $3.50 for the exact same thing) and the history of ALL FIAT currencies going to zero over time as a reason to look at BTC, which is the only sound money since gold and silver and is deflationary, uncensorable and non seizeable to boot.
4) As for guns – history has shown that tyrants *always* disarm their people to enable their tyranny (the US constitution itself recognised this, when written by the people right after defeating their tyrannical rulers, the British). Given the obvious march of tyranny around the world for decades, and especially in recent years, I expect increasing efforts by our government to continue disarming the people, and note that ‘high profile events’ (the Port Arthur shootings, 911, the NZ Mosque shootings) are often used to ram through ‘safety’ laws that increase the power of governments over the people.
Dr BeauGan
Is this a practical application of transforming integrals with awkward boundaries from the x,y,z planes to the p,q,r vector space?
“intangible areas”
Reminds me of the old video game villain, Giygas.
“You cannot grasp the true form of Giygas’ attack!”
“intangible areas”
Dot is feeling a little strange…
Has the MSM here in Oz even touched the recent destruction of two large ammo depos in Ukraine? The last of which appears to have involved a stock pile of depleted uranium ammunition.
Pogriasays:
May 15, 2023 at 11:10 am
Three hours in and the guys have taken down four trees
Unless it is the 5th of November, that’s “blokes”.
Don’t understand why Drumgold was so worried Ms Reynold’s hubbie was in the gallery… its a fricking public place…
“Boambee Johnsays:
May 15, 2023 at 11:44 am
Pogriasays:
May 15, 2023 at 11:10 am
Three hours in and the guys have taken down four trees
Unless it is the 5th of November, that’s “blokes”.”
Oops, my bad.
Scuttles back out to watch the blokes!
Shooting is not an easy skill to learn…
It is also something that requires constant practice to maintain ability.
Also, trying to panicking moving targets (I.e. unarmed civilians in a Cafe after you shoot the first one) is incredibly difficult.
It’s hard enough to hit moving targets with a shotgun, let alone a centre fire rifle…
To wit;
If your culture is intangible, you probably don’t belong in this four dimensional reality we inhabit.
You can’t physically relate to your culture and you have no system of writing. It’s arguable you cannot even have knowledge of it.
Some of these NT claims are word salad.
Pogria, I had a team of blokes about two years ago remove about four large ti-trees and they were done in well under two hours. I didn’t get them to mulch though, just to saw the wood down so I could use it to border the garden beds out front and back. Very efficient and capable.
Comparing what Bryant did to a real combat situation requiring proper military training is absurd.
For the time being…”reforms” in the offing.
The membership is “unrepresentative” of the wider community, apparently.
Rowan Dean seems to feel that Dutton is making his mark – first saying that the Libs would be backing the ‘No’ vote on ‘Da Voice’, and his budget reply speech which included a push for small modular nuclear rather than ruinables.
I had not even heard about it.