This is rapidly becoming the Celebrity Defence (the Tele): NRL personality Paul Kent will seek to have allegations he was…
Open Thread – Weekend 20 May 2023
- Bumtree #12
- Bumtree #11
- Open Thread – Mon 13 May 2024
- Australia ain’t what it was
- A Military Realist’s View of the Ukraine War Thread
Red Tories as in commie Tories? Yep, that’s pretty accurate. Except Farage is actually taking them from the Blue Tories,…
Budget night and I want to see what Shorten is doing to rein in the Rolls Royce NDIS. For 2…
The Hun: Former Jetstar pilot Greg Lynn admits to hiding and burning the bodies of high school sweethearts Russell Hill…
Perhaps they should have a posthumous trial with standard rules of evidence applied (i.e. no hearsay) and all parties in…
‘Victorian Opposition Leader John Pesutto has been booed and heckled by his Liberal members as tensions flare over the decision to expel upper house MP Moira Deeming from the parliamentary party.
Derision rose from the floor as the opposition leader took to the stage to give a speech at the Liberal Party’s state council in Bendigo on Saturday.’
The Age, 9:59am
Anything else purporting to be evidence presented in Lehrmann’s trial was not. Funnily enough, that includes any “witness” statement presented by Cassie’s favourite meeja amphibian.
Rog – JJJ also reporting that Guiseppe Prosciutto was “not well recieved” by the audience at the gliberal forum.
Ask someone at the desk what her favourite song from the ’40’s was.
I would say dependence on the cops is unique to Australia because the population has been disarmed, whereas in America the right to bear arms was one of the first things mentioned in the US Constitution.
People who’ve been disarmed have no choice but to rely on the cops and in Australia the cops behave exactly as you would expect from government monopolies with a legislated, exclusive right to bear arms — that is, they couldn’t give a sh*t about the safety of citizens they’re sworn to protect.
Why would they? The citizens should never have given up their right to bear arms. QED.
C.L:
Respectfully, CL, I disagree.
One branch of our family was in the Dresden area when it was bombed. They were in one of the ‘treks’ of refugees moving away from the Red Army.
They disappeared, God knows where. Hopefully it was under the bombs and not the Red Army.
Dresden was a legitimate target – it was the Main Supply Route for Army Group Centre which was slowly getting a defensive line together to stop the Soviets. It had to be disrupted.
The tragedy was that the railways through Dresden were one of the first things put back into use. Within 3 days, if the records are correct.
Here’s a TIK episode on the raid which appears to me to be the best and – as far as I’m concerned – final word on the subject.
They’ll definitely need that soap. Does Dove make it on a stick as well?
These are young women with all their lives ahead of them. Lives now shortened by morbid obesity and the curious cult worship surrounding it. Venus of Willendorf was a fertility symbol, not a template for body shape.
That’s every second Saturday night in the Panzer boudoir.
Rogersays:
May 20, 2023 at 10:58 am
‘Victorian Opposition Leader John Pesutto has been booed and heckled by his Liberal members as tensions flare over the decision to expel upper house MP Moira Deeming from the parliamentary party.
Derision rose from the floor as the opposition leader took to the stage to give a speech at the Liberal Party’s state council in Bendigo on Saturday.’
Beautiful in its ugliness.
I don’t recall being asked.
THE BAKHMUT CRUCIBLE: Part 1 Ukrainian Logistics: Varicose Veins vs Interior Lines
Great thread on the centrality of Bakhmut for events in Donbass.
Until late2019…
And on the topic of plus-sized go-grrrls…
1 in 3 Female Recruits Injured in Army Basic Training (Daniel Greenfield, 20 May)
And this is after the training course was substantially softened. You have to wonder if the body pride stuff is causing young ladies to join up, only to then find that the laws of physics aren’t subject to fat-phobia prosecutions.
Legal Aid is full of junior poorly paid law graduates with a practicing certificate and little experience. It is much easier to get a client to plead guilty and let the prosecutor have his or her way than to get legally active and inventive and pursue innocence, even if the case may actually warrant a not guilty plea.
My observations regarding work from home from visiting numerous high profile company offices in Melnuristan:
John Holland: one floor almost deserted, level 9 maybe 50%, one floor almost normal.
CYP: maybe 50% on deck.
Rail project: 8 floors with maybe 10% occupancy.
As an aside, on a visit to VicPlod HQ yesterday I swear one of the K9 handlers is a Grampian Nastie.
Of course I meant Melburnistan
Oh God.
1000 days of war ended a week after the 2nd bomb dropped …. sounds like they were military targets to me
PS …. in ‘total war’, there are no civilians, their morale, and its effects on production, their leadership, and those in uniform, makes them a military target – the weapons of war are not just kinetic (reference the last 3 years).
Bar Beach Swimmer:
Murder is a sin. Just a minor correction, BBS.
“War is Hell”. Yes it is, but sometimes all you get is shitty options.
I suggest you get a copy of Top Enders “Atomic Salvation” available here.
The CCTV footage went missing.
What a coincidence.
Anyway, if the Channel 10/NewsCorp shakedown doesn’t pan out, perhaps Lehrmann and Reynolds could hit the Leagues Club circuit doing Stand Up comedy?
I’d pay good money to see that, even though the entertainment has been free so far.
The after effects of that bombing divided one family, I know rather deeply.
Parents had suffered during the War – Father a prisoner of war on the Burma Railway, mother a civilian internee in a camp in Java.
One of their children spent a year in Japan as an exchange student, visited the Atomic Museum at Hiroshima, and came home horrified.
“How could you DO THAT to women and children?”
My workplace still has quite a few predominately working from home but they want more people in the office. At the same time they want to move us to smaller digs and hot desk (called something else that escapes me), and get rid of senior manager offices.
Women are simply no match for men physically. Of course there’s an overlap at the edges, with a strong woman and a less well built man, but even there, that overlap is often spurious. He has the testosterone muscle and bone development that she, if normal, lacks. He also has that male aggressive urge to fight against other competing men. She uses quite different skills to attract a mate. You can see it in women’s football, a game about which I know nothing. As an outsider, I can only notice differences in the way players move. Women don’t tackle much and make poorer judgements about doing it. They don’t run as fast and they hesitate more. They call out to each other more and have heaps more communicative eye contact. Men seem to be more aware of where the ball is and they spot it readily.
Tell me I’m wrong.
Following BoN’s post above:
It’s bitterly disappointing – scandalous, in fact – that thus far, I’ve never seen myself represented in popular culture.
Every weekend I dust and re-categorise my bellybutton lint collection – tonight I’m separating the flecked from the speckled (nightmare!), finally placing the mauves adjacent to the aubergines, and cataloging a new sub-category of random organic aromas which have replaced the citrus undertones as my new favourites.
Yet I’m still waiting for a Navel Flora Appreciation Round in the footy, or an approach from an advertising company seeking a natural ‘inny’ model.
Is that fair? No.
I feel so brushed off right now!
1000 days of war ended a week after the 2nd bomb dropped …. sounds like they were military targets to me
It sounds to me like there was no connection between the 2 events.
Otherwise, why the week’s wait?
America could’ve ended the War anytime in the previous 2 years by negotiation.
Setting the Terms as Unconditional Surrender just stretched it out to the benefit of American War Profiteers.
It’s not Rocket Science, though you seem to be having a hard time picking it up.
I think men have a ‘game plan’ of football in their mind and with their team. They act in unison more. It seems to be quite decisive. I can’t see much evidence of this in women’s playing.
Again, am I wrong?
Bear in mind that I have no idea of the rules of any football game, I am going purely on observations made as a bored observer whenever Hairy is ardently watching and I am nearby. I gather than women have some different rules for tackles? Is that correct? Or do men have new rules so that women can play?
Correct …. at my first bail appearance, I was represented by legal aid, working at what I judged to be ‘student’ or ‘ intern’ level – the result, a week in solitary until I got proper, private representation by a senior criminal lawyer … the same one who successfully defended me at trial.
The state might think they are saving money by paying new grads ‘minimum wage’ to act as public defenders and prosecutors, but if the result is un-necessary jail time, not only are costs increased , but justice diminished.
Older games from years ago that Hairy sometimes enjoys seem to be much rougher for men than they are now. Men here have spoken of the game being sissified.
Anyone who thinks they can answer the morals and ethics of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs in one word or one sentence is grossly over-simplifying it.
The “do nothing” option had moral hazards as well.
The fifth century calls. They fought like men back then, that’s for sure.
Someone just downticked me and i upticked it to a 1.
The “do nothing” option had moral hazards as well.
In that case, why didn’t the January 1945 firebombing of Tokyo result in immediate surrender?
It’s forgotten today in the breast beating over Hiroshima, but it was a far greater crime in terms of death and destruction.
Well what have you been doing all this time? And Mother wants to know why all your tube socks are so crusty?
Ooops. Blockquote fail.
Never mind, as we say here about important matters. 🙂
Humphrey, please don’t explain what that means. I don’t want to know.
I’m not going to quibble about six days.
After their experiences with the Treaty of Versailles?
In May 1945 my dad spent his 19th birthday in the jungle in Borneo hunting down Japs. Had the war continued he may well have not seen his 20th birthday.
He for one was well pleased that the war was foreshortened by the bomb(s)
How is this for a theory?
The price of lamb has dropped
This is because Colesworth have warehouses full of frozen lamb
The high prices met buyer resistance so it didn’t move out of the warehouses
So Colesworth have dropped out of the buying market thus causing prices to plummet
Thus perpetuating their misery
It is now *6 months* since I handed the AFP their arses in the Canberra courts, and they are yet to pay my costs, as they were ordered.
Lotza years ago I had occasion to take on a NSW gummint dept legally .. ended up winning and being granted compo & costs totalled $3 500) .. knowing this mob were extremely tardy payers I asked the judge for a time limit then penalties if not complied with ..!
He gave ’em 21 dayz (working) and 50% interest for every day following ……!
Thet coughed up (courier delivered, signature) on the 20th day ………
Indeed. Rucking in rugby was not for the fainthearted. If you were doing your job as a forward (and your opponents were doing theirs), everybody came off the field with a striped torso. A proud sight on Monday morning. Every man in his 20s loves the shiners and scars of sporting violence.
That said, rugby scrums were exceedingly dangerous for amateurs before they introduced stepped engagement. Another sensible change was the banning of spear tackles. The football codes, cricket, netball and horse racing, however, are all now controlled and run by the state. Which is to say, they are owned by Labor – which sees sport as something given to the masses, under supervised and strict conditions.
Robert,
@ 11:13
yes.
. knowing this mob were extremely tardy payers I asked the judge for a time limit then penalties if not complied with ..!
Brilliant!
There’s wrong, there’s very wrong and then there’s Ed
There’s wrong, there’s very wrong, so bad it’s not even wrong and then there’s Ed.
Fixed it for you.
Beautiful painting dover, so sweet, there should be more of this family time — reminds me of my sons family time putting their two littlies to bed.
My grandfather was there as well.
A bit older, wife & two children at home.
Take out a judgment pursuant to the order then sue by statement of liquidated claim in whatever ACT jurisdiction is appropriate.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
— Joseph Goebbels
Having read the articles in the Oz vis a vis Dumbgold and what appears to be a parlous state in the administration of justice in the ACT I have a couple of questions:
1. was Dumbgold promised an appointment to the Federal court bench?
2. on what basis did the ACT Legal Aid Office not grant aid to Lehrmann’s counsel?
3. on what basis did the ACT Legal Aid Office refuse aid to Lehrmann for the solicitor of his choice?
As a reward for compliance.
If the Voice goes down in the referendum and/or Tasmania rejects it, will Hobart get its new stadium?
My grandfather had just been involved at Balikpapan. Never knew his opinion on the atom bombs but I know my grandmother thought it was necessary.
Chris Kenny wants bipartisanship on the Voice. I presume he means all parties should advocate the No option.
There are a number of things you need to keep in mind re the bombing of civilian areas. Firstly, the intended action must at least be morally permissible or alternatively, not evil. Secondly, the good effect must follow immediately from the action itself, as must the evil effect, and the good effect can never be the result of the evil effect. Thirdly, the evil effect can never be intended, but merely permitted. Lastly, there must be a proportionate and sufficiently serious reason to go through with the permissible action despite the foreseeable evil effects. So hitting a nuclear weapons facility that may also unavoidably kill a few dozens civilians is justified while killing several thousand in order to disrupt transportation and communications for a few days may not be proportionate or sufficiently serious.
With respect to using the A-bomb on Hiroshima, the hurdles seem to apply at the second stage, the good effect (surrender) appears to follow from the evil effect (the demonstration of the destructive potential of a single bomb over a city) whereas the second hurdle would probably be cleared if the target was a concentration of troops or ships in the field or at sea, respectively. The third hurdle is a problem too because it appears that the destruction of civilians was intended as opposed to permitted. If it wasn’t, then the fourth hurdle applies, and we need to ask whether whatever was gained by the action of dropping the bomb in Hiroshima immediately (the destruction and interruption of whatever military infrastructure) was proportionate and sufficiently serious as to justify the evil permitted (the killing of tens of thousands of civilians).
Calli:
Reminds me of my first Mother-in-Law, who was one of the nastiest and manipulative people I’ve ever met. We eventually moved from Sydney to Brisbane in a vain event to break the nexus between the mother/daughter war. Even then, she would call the daughter on a Sunday and the house would be in an uproar for the next week. Both knew how to press each others buttons and did so, with no regard to the consequences to everyone around them.
One thing to remember about dropping the bombs. The Americans were having trouble supplying enough fuel for the large fleets of B29s and they were also running out of money. The war needed to be ended ASAP. Really I don’t think there was a realistic choice.
Why do people think that killing large numbers of people efficiently is morally worse than doing so inefficiently?
Excellent questions.
We have never had the “right” to bear arms. It was, reportedly, never included in our Constitution because that “right” was deemed self-evident, a given, and a situation where it would be otherwise couldn’t be countenanced.
Black Ball:
Do we send flowers, BB?
(I assume Last Rites will be administered.)
The possibilities are terrifying, that’s why.
An extension of the right to self-preservation.
– Blackstone.
rosie:
Yes.
I read an article years ago claiming none lethal weapons increases the use of force.
Daytime Sky having a love-in with the Climate Council Director of Research.
Why do people think that killing large numbers of people efficiently is morally worse than doing so inefficiently?
The possibilities are terrifying, that’s why.
Explain why destroying a city with one B29 and a nuke is worse than using 300 B29s and firebombs.
2. on what basis did the ACT Legal Aid Office not grant aid to Lehrmann’s counsel?
3. on what basis did the ACT Legal Aid Office refuse aid to Lehrmann for the solicitor of his choice?
No reasonable prospect of success + Without Merit for #2 & #3.
In light of the result [11/1 for Conviction, the Trial was aborted due to Juror misconduct by the 1], that was an accurate reading of the Facts.
Lehrmann coulda had Legal Aid for a Guilty Plea.
I’m suspecting that perhaps Lehrmann was offered the option of pleading Guilty at the start and receiving a Non-Custodial Sentence, but he nixed that, so he didn’t get Legal Aid.
Judge McCallum did just that in a recent Rape Case, citing the Rapist’s previous unblemished character.
Lehrmann is trying to have his cake and eat it too, something no one has yet been able to do.
All these references to the bombing of Japan brings back memories of my early dayz in Oz .. I joined the Federal PS about 3 months after arrival (1967) and was placed in the Dept. of Air ( the 3 services having separate depts back then) and sent to a very small office (35) on George Street between Dymocks & the Tatler Hotel (now gone, sadly!) .. anyway this, specialist, branch was staffed 90% by ex POWs, mostly RAAF with a sprinkling of Army/Navy, a couple of female secretaries/typists and me, 19 years old ……..
My in-depth knowledge of the Pacific War at that time was having read Knights of the Bushido by Baron Liverpool .. 22 years after the War and I got a, cloe-up, personal education into what some folk went thru & a lot of the traumas still being felt …
PITY THEY DIDN’T HAVE 2 DOZEN BOMBS and GLASSED ‘EM ALL …!
NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE … !!!
Stop trying to play cute, Eddles*. You know which CCTV footage I’m referring to.
*You’re bloody hopeless at it.
This is coming from the very same individual who was incessantly complaining to the blog owner and exactly the same thing he suggested ought to get people banned. The only difference is who Hallward opposes and supports. What a scumbag.
Why I’m entirely sick of war in Ukraine, no-one is interested in negotiations, it’s just more weapons, more lives.
Way to late for talking .. lotza egos wouldn’t survive a “negotiated” peace ………FFS!
For the viewing pleasure of the Catallaxy collective hivemind (or “you lot”) , from Bendigo this morning, here is video from this morning, of John Prostitutto being:
Booed
Catcalled
Chanted at
& a member walkout.
Heh!
Because of the devastation from a single bomb, you dickhead. It’s the reason conventional bombs have been frequently used after WW2 and why nations refrain from using nuclear. The devastation is mind boggling, you ridiculous cretin.
Dover.
Word to the wise.
Mzz Maiden, Mzz Wilkinson et al, are being sued for far less than what Googlery is posting about Lehrmann here.
Let it stand at your peril.
Why would anyone plead guilty in such an instance? You (or Drumkopf) cannot prosecute a rape case based on an accusation, without anything even remotely resembling actual evidence being tendered.
You are being a seriously obstinate blockhead, Eddles (again).
One of the Islands, the Japs were down one end, the Australians had the rest.
No fighting occurred for months, because both sides knew the War was ending soon.
That was way before The A-Bombs were dropped, so the reality was the War was ending whenever America got around to calling it off.
Black Rock have the moral authority of a tin of tuna.
“If I can’t see you, how do I know you’re working”
Basically means you don’t know how to measure my output, let alone my KPIs and have no plan to reward me for performance.
An internet connection and software subscriptions are what is required to bang out reports; sales jobs can be done by anyone with a mobile phone.
One upshot of COVID was people no longer had excuses to call useless and extremely awkward meetings.
Truck driver
Lab tech
Security guard
Barrister during a trial
Need to be at work.
Many ancillary jobs to these can work from home and its better for everyone.
(Pure) sales and call centre jerbs – for the love of god, go into work, think fo your suffering customers!
I don’t think ‘efficiency’ is the operative distinction at least so far as C.L. is concerned.
Every man in his 20s loves the shiners and scars of sporting violence.
The back spasms and pain to this day I suffered from being a front row forward in school days hasn’t been something to love, but sport back then was certainly a way to earn peer approval.
JC is projecting again.
Car dealerships have staff there, purely sales and tech staff. The contract management and finalisation and even finance is done by WFH contractors the head offices trust who service multiple franchises.
Bespoke, what are you using to improve your written language dese daies?
One of the locals – since gone to God – told the story of when his camp was liberated, and the offer was made
“Any of these yellow bastards you want , taken into the bush and shot?”
“No, let them be. There’s been enough killing, and dying, already.”
Ed is certainly circling the drain at the moment.
Why would anyone plead guilty in such an instance?
#1. There was a complainant
#2. Lehrmann had means, motive and opportunity
#3. Lehrmann his out in a Psych Hospital 6 months, avoiding being interviewed.
#4. Lehrmann told 3 different sories to the AFP about why he returned to PH that morning
#5. Lehrmann told the AFP he intentionally left his pass at home, even though he always intended to go to PH after the Drinks Function in Canberra.
#6. Lehrmann’s eyes are too close together.
It’s all fun and games until you lose bits and pieces of leg muscles from pugilism and cross country wrestling. Not as bad as the Muai Thai guy having his shin break (which almost makes me puke every time I watch it) but heavy rehab and years to be able to run properly again for a decent distance; I question the utility of my “valour”.
I regret having those injuries. The concussions I got as an adult were not glamourous but I saw an absolutely sickening one watching our 1st grade team; our winger and the opposition winger clashed head to head at full tilt.
Mad bloke came to the pub that night!
I’d bet that all physically confrontational sports will be banned or go out of business over the next 30 years. Brain damage from knocks is very real and these sports will either be banned or sued to death. I’m not passing judgement, but just as I see things unfold.
LOL, it certainly will. Climate and covid rubbish to eleventy. But I think what Mr Clare actually fears is that students might hear narratives not approved by the blob.
Education experts fear AI implementation in schools will spread disinformation (Sky, 20 May)
That second para sure ain’t going to happen. The absolutely last thing the Left wants is students who can “think creatively and critically, be able to recognise bias and discern fact from opinion”. If they ever allowed it the kids would turn into righties.
JC plz. This is a highly reguarded blog.
Just as a refresher, apparently in a court room not far from where Drumgold was doing his railroad best for Ms Knickerless there was another rape trial going on where the complainant chose anonymity. I wonder how much support that complainant got from Ms Heidie Yates?
Cassie of Sydney:
Israel is in a particularly horrible position in regards to Iran.
Iran has told of its intentions on multiple forums, that it will kill all the Jews it can reach.
Israel’s nightmare is that Iran’s lunatic leaders, who believe that their 12th Imam will arrive when they attack and defeat Israel, wait until they have at least 8 nukes and can wipe out half of Israel. This will allow the other Arab nations to use their conventional armies to slaughter the remaining Jews.
So what does Israel do to defend itself? Wait for the first Iranian nuclear test? Or the second? Or wait until Tel Aviv is hit?
It has few non nuclear options, none of which will endear it to the rest of the world, but then, the rest of the world – especially the leftist part – seem unwilling to step up to defend her anyway.
Interesting that Legal Aid was set up to correct power imbalances in our Courts, but is now being used to “fortify inequity”.
I think the key Legal Aid parameters for rejecting counsel would be budgetary or, at the other end of the spectrum, inexperience.
Not liking the cut of Whybrow’s jib doesn’t really cut it.
I remember years ago working for a company which got into a legal wrangle over some commercial contract or other.
The company secretary was old school C of E and was complaining about the Jewish firm engaged by the other side.
“They’re a bunch of ruthless ‘take no prisoners’ head-kickers”, he says.
“Oh?” I said. “So why aren’t we using them?”.
Which was, no doubt, Lehrmann’s position on Whybrow. He wanted someone who would go in hard.
Well, grasp that plug chain and go for it.
I’m serious.
The stuff he is posting would be a slam dunk for a defamation lawyer.
Cassie:
I forgot to add this –
That’s correct – there has been no apology acceptable to Japan’s victims ever made, and that continues to annoy them.
We only recently found out we had two Uncles who died in action against the Japanese in Burma. That makes 3 dead and two wounded out of 8 enlisted in our family.
Not in the workplace? Lining up to collect the dole!
I have no idea whether Whybrow’s statement that Wilkinson’s speech (and resultant trial delay) effectively got Lehrmann off is true or not.
One thing is for sure.
It is epic, Olympic standard trolling.
Mollerween really put a spanner in the Drumgold – Jerome Works.
Ed Casesays:
May 20, 2023 at 11:13 am
The CCTV footage went missing.
Prove that it ever existed.
I am currently bedtime reading the latest novel (his 3rd) by Amor Towels, author of best-selling ‘A Gentleman in Moscow’, one of my favorite books. His ‘Rules of Civility’, about New York in 1938 is also excellent in character analysis and period setting, so I recently purchased ‘The Lincoln Highway’, a road story of young men on the run along this highway, ending up in New York, in the 1950’s. The characters are are busy resolving various matters of honour among men, and giving and taking shiners and scars is all part of it. It is brutal at times, but so well written, as is all that Towels does. A born storyteller, as the blur says, yet he worked in corporate life until retirement and has come late to writing. He is not a leftie.
America could’ve ended the War anytime in the previous 2 years by negotiation.
Possibly, but it would have been the negotiation of a US surrender. See my comment earlier on the locations of Japanese ground forces in mid-1943.
You really are quite ignorant, Grandpa Cletus, the inbred, semi-literate slack jawed yokel.
.. as the blurb says, ie the back cover description
The stuff he is posting would be a slam dunk for a defamation lawyer.
The stuff you and plenty of others have been posting about Higgins non stop for 2 years would be a Slam Dunk for a Defamation Lawyer too, then?
Your Concern Trolling doesn’t extend that far, eh?
Daily Mail.
No. It’s all in the Moller memo.
I think it was Ian Toll’s account of the U.S.Navy in the Pacific war, that made the claim that some elements of the Japanese forces saw there as being a cunning plan, by which the “perfidious Yankees” would be lured close to the Home Islands, and smashed in the final, decisive battle…
Presumably Mz Webb didn’t rise to the top of the NSW Fuzz on her communication skills.
Rogersays:
May 20, 2023 at 11:50 am
In May 1945 my dad spent his 19th birthday in the jungle in Borneo hunting down Japs.
My grandfather was there as well.
A bit older, wife & two children at home.
And had the war continued, their next destination was the invasion of Java.
ZK2A:
I have my doubts Tokyo would have been hit by a 3rd bomb – after all, you need someone in charge to be alive to surrender, and there’d be no guarantee the Emperor would survive. Perhaps the 5th, 6th, and 7th bombs at once would be sufficient. Not that they would have been ready until 1946.
Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach.
Study finds 90% of Australian teachers can’t afford to live where they teach (Phys.org, 19 May)
by Ben Knight, University of New South Wales
I’d be more empathic about their terrible plight except that they seem these days to want to turn kids into transvestite Marxist drones with no useful skills. So the violin I’m playing is very small.
(I suspect he’s the ABC’s Ben Knight, but apart from circumstantial evidence I can’t confirm it.)
Grandpa Cletus
In light of the result [11/1 for Conviction,
You have yet to present even the weakest shred of evidence to support this assertion.
Until you do, it would be prudent for readers to regard it as your personal fantasy.
Saturday, 20th May? World Whisky Day?
Work, Keep Working, and Then Work Harder
Bruce O’Nuke:
There is probably a frenzied nuclear arms race going on in SE Asia at the moment. Japan, Vietnam, South Korea, Taiwan, and Indonesia come to mind as having the need and the resources.
Ed Casesays:
May 20, 2023 at 12:38 pm
One of the Islands, the Japs were down one end, the Australians had the rest.
No fighting occurred for months, because both sides knew the War was ending soon.
That might have been Bougainville, except that fighting there was pretty continuous throughout 1945, but is more likely to be New Britain, where around 10,000 Australians had around 100,000 Japanese confined in the Gazelle Peninsula. Significant fighting occurred to get them there, but 10,000 attacking 100,000 was never an option. Also, the Australians controlled around 90% of the island, and maintained active patrol activity to keep the Japanese quiet.
You are an ignorant dickhead.
We can sure breed ’em.
Saving humanity: here’s a radical approach to building a sustainable and just society (19 May)
Mark Diesendorf, Honorary Associate Professor, UNSW Sydney
The answer of course is communism. It always is. UNSW seems to’ve gone right down the rabbithole lately.
Because of the devastation from a single bomb, you dickhead. It’s the reason conventional bombs have been frequently used after WW2 and why nations refrain from using nuclear. The devastation is mind boggling, you ridiculous cretin.
So you decide you need to flatten an enemy city during TOTAL war and you have a choice between using one single aircraft plus bomb and 300 aircraft and firebombs, which is better?
We haven’t actually had a TOTAL war since 1945. Also not vast fleets of bombers, which we won’t see again. Precision Guided Weapons have seen to that.
Makka:
That would explain its younger citizens incomprehension at the very hostile reception they get when touristing in some of those nations.
No, Keiki and Yuki – the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere wasn’t well received elsewhere, *biffo.*
Actually, my parents wedding anniversary date, also, 35 yrs today we moved into this home 🙂
There’s some hope still that comedy will gather skeptical force amongst rising generations to satirise the woke. Here’s an example that made me laugh.
On this day:
Any further ideas on what happened?
That was never the choice you discussed. You can try to move the goal posts on another dildo such yourself, but don’t try that shit with me champ. In any event there’s more chance of civilians surviving conventional attacks than a nuclear attack.
Here’s a question for you, you cretin. Since the use of those bombs on Japanese cities why has there been a reluctance to use nuclear bombs when there has been countless use of conventional bombs.
Answer the question!
There’s been plenty of concentrated (conventional) bombing since WW2. Vietnam and the use of the Daisy Cutter would be a example. And the bombing of Hanoi? Just STFU, you useless big-noting buffoon.
How can you come to a conclusion with such narrow criteria?
Seem convenient.
But if the dole was not below the poverty line it would look like an attractive option. That’s the purpose of it being so low. Surely there aren’t… but even as I type this I realise there are people out there who want a UBI for their lifestyle.
Nuclear fallout. Get the iodine and drink at least a liter or two.
B-Newc posited:
This is the natural course of all kids unless it is interfered with – which it routinely is.
Have any of you older Cats been tasered today?
Put down your cuppa, pick up a knife, and get a different kind of heart-starter in the morn. It’s the new thing to do, apparently.
Interesting story, so I had a look. It has been attributed to extensive forest fires, as layers of ash and soot were discovered, along with evidence from tree rings that a fire occurred at that time.
I have indigestion from too much pumpkin soup. Does that count?
I see the midget Italian chimpanzee with anger management issues has returned. Run in, shit on the floor and start flinging your poo.
You are capable of polite argument even though you are ignorant/wrong on most topics so I can only conclude you have been drinking (a little early in the day), you have mental problems and your meds get out of kilter or you think that your schtick is somehow funny. It is actually early juvenile.
J.C., Jimmy Chimp.
We also lost Mum eight years ago today.
Actually, we lost a lovely white-haired lady who didn’t even know who we were. We lost Mum to Alzheimer’s several years before that.
Lizzie promoted:
I watched that skit.
At the end I got an advertisement for an upcoming Mission Impossible movie. More stunt than a kid on a vegan diet.
Oh great answer from a worthless 10 pound limey piece of shit. who deserves his visa revoked.
Sure, I am more than capable in the same way you are, you hypocritical dickhead. But I won’t ever be with you. Ever. You went after eddles in the same way you’re criticizing me. You’re arguments are shit awful too. Now piss off and go big-note somewhere else about your model plane remote control.
Eyrie the Aviator = Hallward Hughes.
A chimpanzee carrying a hand bag dog.
Hilarious!
What narrow criteria, that provided at 12.03pm?
NOBODY EVER EXPECTS THE PUMPKIN INDIGESTION!
Cardinal Fang, fetch…. the fluffy cushions.
The Lads.
Good stuff.
Bespoke, what actual conclusion have I arrived at from C.L.’s allegedly narrow criteria? Just to be clear.
I was referring to the the lads use of a narrow criteria. Dover.
Sorry I wasn’t clear.
I’m not sure C.L.’s criteria is unreasonably narrow, bespoke.
Er, perhaps because said rich are earning the money which said dolees are receiving, as charity …. and tax cuts for the ‘rich’ improves their incentive to work, whereas increasing the dole reduces the incentive for those that receive it.
Get back to us after re-reading the Bradford-Hill criteria.
Get back to us after reviewing the Bradford Hill criteria on causality, especially numbers 4, 6 and 7.
Re the atom bombs on Japan
If China invaded Taiwan, would destroying the Three Gorges Dam be justified?
If China invaded Australia, would destroying the Three Gorges Dam be justified?
If China invaded anywhere would, destroying the Three Gorges Dam be justified?
Funfact, the codeoird for success in the Dambuster raid was ‘Nigger’, after Guy Gibsons dog …. or my cat, coulda been either.
Feelthebren:
The refusal to watch or release the video suggests ‘butter knife’ may be correct.
I’ve a feeling a lot of our coppers haven’t come down off the Covid Enforcement High.
Wodger:
Video or it did happen.
FlyingDuk, you actually wrote the N-word! Any lefties reading here will be traumatised for life.
So, you hate cats or dogs eh? Which is it?
I am. Being dismissive or non responsive is a sure sine.
We are possibly going to be face with delema soon with Tiawan.
Unfortunately, he is not finished. Like Photios’s NSW former Liberals, the Vic membership’s beliefs and morality are irrelevant to the Party nomenclatura.
Logic would suggest that losing the Party base would dictate that the Party collapses. Sadly, the evil genius of taxpayer funding of elections has ensured that control of the Party rules is all that is necessary to ensure an unassailable totalitarian rule. They don t need the base’s money or support.
Radically, one could speculate upon the Andrews propaganda machine working to ensure that the corrupt and venal Liberal machine remains unassailable.
Chuckle
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-justice-covid-emergency-restrictions-85401feb29bea6db2f2ea4ac61cdeff2?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
Conservative Supreme Court Justice Gorsach called the Covid restrictions as among the greatest intrusions on civil liberties in the history of the US.
I’m forced to challenge Flyingduk’s comment re the codeword for the breaching of the Moehne dam:
On the superduper overthetop ultra pedantic grounds that:
There are no capital letters in a morse transmission.
The code word was actually: “nigger”
Crikey Bob, link to video has at least twice been posted upthread.
Daily Mail. Words fail me, they honestly fvcking do.
Sounds like you’ve done this before. Might as well add interest as well. There is usually a statutory rate somewhere.
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
May 20, 2023 at 3:26 pm
I’m forced to challenge Flyingduk’s comment re the codeword for the breaching of the Moehne dam:
On the superduper overthetop ultra pedantic grounds that:
There are no capital letters in a morse transmission.
The code word was actually: “nigger”
I think that the messages are written both for transmission and on receipt in all upper case. That is, there are no lower case letters in a morse transmission.
You have bested me Sir!
I saw somewhere, possibly on Insty, that the size can on whj=ich Bud Light put the tranny photo is known in the US as a Tallboy.
Turned out to be a big bomb!
No, no, and no.
… on which. Always proofread!
“On an elderly or disabled subject.”
How is C.L.’s criteria unreasonably narrow?
One of the few pieces of litigation I was involved in before going and doing something more worthwhile we bankrupted two people, our client got divorced and I don’t think we got paid. Nowhere to go after that.
ZK2A:
I vaguely remember that one, but cannot remember where I read it…
For the record we won the original case although that was probably forgotten along the way.
Not acknowledging allied casualties or Japan’s culture at the time for justification.
The war started like all wars as resulte of egos and stupidity.
Once they start those doing the fight fighting deserve every advantage possible.
Hehe, this would make flyingduk’s code word even more inaccurate, having only one uppercase.
You are however, correct. It has been my experience that anything actually written is in uppercase. Then again, that applies only if messages are written down, before sending or after receipt. In my experience very little is written, if at all.
The 80th anniversary of the Dambusters’ raid was on Tuesday.
Dambusters raid at 80: Incredible story of one of Britain’s most secretive WW2 missions (16 May)
I have no idea whether Whybrow’s statement that Wilkinson’s speech (and resultant trial delay) effectively got Lehrmann off is true or not.
One thing is for sure.
It is epic, Olympic standard trolling.
One could only imagine the texts between Wilkinson & co today.
Where is Zaluzhny?
Big week for Albo if the hop across to China happens after the meetings in Japan.
If Albo gets the meeting with Xi it is a huge win for Albo.
If Albo meets with anyone else, even though the Australian media would paint it as a win, it would be a huge embarrassment.
Time will tell.
The best litigators know how to twist the knife.
Double plus bested then, Sir, Sir?
ZK2A:
Why yes! Yes it is!
I currently buy my wines via Naked Wines. It’s a subscriber service where you pay a certain amount per month for new and unknown vintners.
Is there a Whisk(e)y version of this anyone heard of ? Seeing Australia is becoming a bit of a spirits maker perhaps it would be worthwhile.
He didn’t ignore it. He stated that either side reducing their own combat casualties by deliberately targeting the other’s civilians is evil.
Sure they do but that can’t involve deliberately targeting civilians.
Albo discovers the beauty of the departure lounge.
Possibly in War Plan Orange, under which the Philippines would hold out until the Battle Fleet arrived to smash the Japanese Fleet.
Didn’t quite work out in the short term, but it could be argued that Leyte Gulf was its culmination.
Forgot the intro:
Robert Sewellsays:
May 20, 2023 at 3:45 pm
ZK2A:
I think it was Ian Toll’s account of the U.S.Navy in the Pacific war, that made the claim that some elements of the Japanese forces saw there as being a cunning plan, by which the “perfidious Yankees” would be lured close to the Home Islands, and smashed in the final, decisive battle…
I vaguely remember that one, but cannot remember where I read it…
HZ Housewife:
You should celebrate now.
With whisky!
Yes, if the Taiwanese did it
Yes, if we did it.
Yes, if whoever they invaded did it.
Not on your nelly.
I stated the code word was: “nigger” when really it was “NIGGER”, thus with “Nigger” you were more accurate than I.
Salvatore
It has been my experience that anything actually written is in uppercase. Then again, that applies only if messages are written down, before sending or after receipt. In my experience very little is written, if at all.
In both my experience as a CMF CP clerk, and as a public servant in Defence (pre much wider use of email), formal messages were written, authorised, then sent.
Colonel Crispin…
That initially occurred to me – was the old girl making herself a cuppa and a sandwich because she woke up early, and some prick tried to shuffle her out of the kitchen because it was off limits? And they got stroppy and she got stroppy in return?
Calli:
Close, but no cigar.
Have the woke edited Brickhill’s book yet? Must be about to happen.
At least I have it in HC, so they’d have to raid my house with textas to censor the naughty codeword.
OK. I do not like targeting civilians but if it saves more lives then it is a necessary evil especially if it’s your own citizens. Making it just and moral.
can still enter the words with upper/lower/any case in this page: https://morsedecoder.com. Its all the same in this version.
Mixed with coke.
Guthosays:
May 20, 2023 at 2:36 pm
Re the atom bombs on Japan
I reckon the Three Gorgeous Dams will be top o’ the pops in Taiwan’s targeting list if Communist China gets too frisky.
Not sure whether this has been posted but thought of Farmer Gez.
Residents of Brewster, west of Ballarat, are worried a wind farm proposed for the area will be approved despite its proximity to populations of an endangered bird.
Key points:
A nest of endangered brolgas is near a proposed wind farm at Brewster
The Brolga Guidelines recommend that a 3.2 km turbine-free buffer from breeding sites and flock roost sites
Calls are mounting for ministerial intervention for two western Victorian wind farm plans, due to a lack of community consultation
Wind energy company RE Future has submitted a planning permit for a seven-turbine, 42-megawatt wind farm which, under new planning provisions, will bypass council and be assessed directly by Victoria’s planning minister.
Fourth-generation grain farmer Brett Swan said he was worried about the project’s effect on the
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-20/fight-brewing-over-proposed-brewster-wind-farm/102364054
The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb
In recent months there has been much comment about the decision to use atomic bombs in attacks on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This decision was one of …
Henry Lewis Stimson – 01 Feb 1947
Very interesting.
Some of it I’ve read in detail. Much I’ve only glanced through.
I can also agree with CL that dropping those nukes was a terrible act and that it was immoral. I’m not going to excuse it.
However, I’d also argue that I support the nuking on the grounds of good old fashioned retribution. They freaking well deserved it. Germany was lucky they weren’t on the receiving end because they deserved a decent nuking if not more than the Japs.
Being honest and not looking for excuses is the best way to treat it. They totally deserved a good walloping and got it in spades.
BoN said:
Birthgap – Childless World: Official Trailer
And then you did, Markle.
A vignette from somewhere in the Pacific …
A father, his fourteen year old daughter and a plantation. The two older sons are in New Guinea, slugging it out. They had already been in the ME, and one was a Rat. Desert to jungle. All the fighting men are gone.
The Japanese are making their way down through the Islands, one by one they fall and the locals learn their fate. Messages are sent far and wide, anyone in the path of these creatures knows what will happen.
In the drawer is a handgun. The father explains as best he can to his little girl that the Japanese are on their way and he will not, under any circumstances, allow her to fall into their hands. He knows, you see, what will happen to her. He has seen enough horrors over his lifetime to know.
So they wait, because the race down the Pacific is on.
Finally, after anxious weeks…the US Navy makes its way to the islands. The unthinkable has been averted.
Crikey! Who wrote that?
Black Rover was run over & killed earlier the same day, when Gibson was well & truly not only on the ground, but at RAF Scampton.