Open Thread – Tues 23 May 2023


Harbour of Trieste, Egon Schiele, 1907

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caveman
caveman
May 23, 2023 12:35 am

I coulda been first.

caveman
caveman
May 23, 2023 12:38 am

Looks like I am, I’m giving my first position to the 47th post.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
May 23, 2023 12:53 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 23, 2023 1:05 am

well, this is early.

win
win
May 23, 2023 1:09 am

My dear little grand son has just had an epileptic seizure . brought on by chest congestion due to the frigid class room conditions at his special school. I have no problems with Queensland health but the education department is a matter for concern.
A school ,somewhere on the gold coast had a women turn up to announce her child was now to be known as a Tree. A non binary species apparently.
No further seizures off to bed.

Tom
Tom
May 23, 2023 4:45 am

The new fred was late, so today’s cartoons are on the old fred, starting here.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 23, 2023 5:00 am

From old thread.

So much quality stuff dropped into my inbox overnight.
The Gates funded Pro Publica has a puff piece on using bats in research (winged ones, not Gray Nicolls).
TikTok have named their project to Americanfy their servers Project Texas.
And according to the big brains, Bakhmut was a trap to bog the Russians down & to get ready for the biggest summer counter offensive from Ukraine ever.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 23, 2023 5:01 am

&.
And Ray Stevenson is brown bread.
Rome was one of my favourite shows, a delightful romp.
Only 58 years old.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 6:46 am

Labor have been backslapping themselves over their first year in orifice. Perhaps they shouldn’t be…

Aged care facilities struggle to conform to reforms (Sky News, 23 May)

At least 23 aged care facilities have closed as they struggle to conform to the Albanese government’s newly imposed reforms to the sector.

Aged care provider Wesley Mission has been vocal about its decision to close its Sydney homes – citing difficulty in attracting and retaining staff to meet the government’s minimum care requirements, which include 24/7 mandatory registered nurses.

How long until we are experiencing a full-on Aged Care Crisis™? And I wonder if the MSM will notice? They seem not to like reporting stories inconvenieent to the Left. It’ll be made worse if as BHP is warning today that Labor is going to ban labour-hire companies, since aged care sector is likely to be a big user of such services to plug the gaps.

Cassie of Sydney
May 23, 2023 6:54 am

I posted this link last night on the old fred, but I am reposting again on the new fred because people should watch it. Matthew Goodwin doesn’t mince words. Speaking at the National Conservatism Conference last week in London….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRasyYVYyjI&list=WL&index=2

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 7:02 am

today’s cartoons are on the old fred

Thanks Tom! Bob Moran gets the gong, although it might offend the luvvies in a Mark Latham-ish sort of way. Accurate though. The ABC is obviously from the same species.

Warwick
May 23, 2023 7:04 am

“http://https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-22/nsw-police-boss-defends-call-not-to-watch-95yo-being-tasered/102376328″>

This may have already been posted but the Commissioner of NSW Police will not watch the body cam footage. Another Christine, ” A Girls got to Eat!” Nixon. Sack her this morning. Unbelievable.

Cassie of Sydney
May 23, 2023 7:20 am

“This may have already been posted but the Commissioner of NSW Police will not watch the body cam footage. Another Christine, ” A Girls got to Eat!” Nixon. Sack her this morning. Unbelievable.”

Yep, and I’m reminded of another useless female, Catherine Burn, who was the deputy police commissioner at the time of the Lindt Cafe terrorist incident. Whilst men and women, two of whom later died, were being held hostage, Burn clocked off and went home. She also later deleted phone texts of that afternoon and night.

My mother thinks female policewomen are useless. I used to think that she’s was being a tad unfair but I now agree with her. The current useless female Commissioner of NSW Police should resign.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 7:23 am

Faux is getting worse.

Fox News Employee Handbook Embraces Woke Gender Rules (22 May)

Fox News has been imposing “wokeness” in its ranks for at least two years, based on guidelines in a leaked copy of an employee handbook, a new report claims. … The handbook, that was first issued in 2021, allows employees to use bathrooms that align with their gender identity.

Staff are also encouraged to dress in alignment with their preferred gender, and that employees must be addressed by their preferred name and pronouns in the workplace.

Fox has received a perfect score on the HRC’s Corporate Equality Index, “the nation’s foremost benchmarking survey and report measuring corporate policies and practices related to LGBTQ+ workplace equality.”

Add in the net-zero support policy which also was announced in 2021 and you can see where this is going. Sad to see Roger Ailes’ legacy being destroyed like this.

MatrixTransform
May 23, 2023 7:25 am

a qualifier for my own mother who reads here in this forum,
just like her, I’m not a very religious person.
unlike my grandmother, her mother, who most certainly was

unshakable and devoted, it used to puzzle me greatly as a kid and a young adult that she could subscribe so completely to what appeared to a me as paper-thin dogma or tall tales.
well, not so anymore … not that I subscribe to a church,

we are surrounded by simplistic idiocy akin to ‘Che Guavera thinks you’re a Nazi’
or the stupid sign I saw on a car at the shops yesterday
… blak voices must be heard over “white noise”

anyway, these days when the pious talk, especially if they aren’t dogmatic, I will very happily listen to and try to deeply consider what is being said.

the video below … I initially thought, a hour of listening to some religious bloke prattle on? .
Not a chance.

and an hour later and I’m posting this.

Most Christians Don’t Know THIS About Babylon

caveman
caveman
May 23, 2023 7:27 am

On Monday night I will present my Q+A program, then walk away. For how long? I don’t know,” he said

He hasn’t thought it through enuff . Emotion on the run. Channelling the Elders is hard work even for the Emperor of the Voice.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 7:39 am

Feminists fall another rung on the totem pole.

Uber Suspends Head of Diversity After ‘Karen’ Talks (22 May)

Uber reportedly put its head of diversity, equity and inclusion on a leave of absence after employees complained about two “Don’t Call Me Karen” events that focused on white women’s experiences. According to the New York Times, Bo Young Lee, the ride-hailing company’s head of diversity, is on leave pending Uber’s “next steps.”

The events, one last month and another on May 17, were billed as “diving into the spectrum of the American white woman’s experience” and hearing from white women who work at Uber, with a focus on “the ‘Karen’ persona.”

The Times reported that by referring to “Karen” as a hurtful term, Uber workers felt the diversity team was minimizing racism by white people.

It’s a bit confusing but I gather that you can now call a white woman “Karen” perjoratively because not calling her “Karen” would be racism. Or something. I’m not entirely sure. But it’s clear that white women are now below Black and Hispanic people on the virtue ladder.

sfw
sfw
May 23, 2023 7:43 am

Cassie, a lot of police work is just talking to people, listening to them and offering solutions. I worked with more than a few good women like that. They’re utterly useless at anything that involves force, but then quite a few men are useless at that as well. The problem is talent, Jordan Peterson had a great video on the spread of talent in men and women, there are way more men who are great at what they do than women, just as there are way more men who are low IQ than women.

The establishment really wants to demonstrate their desire to have women in senior posts in gov and business, the trouble is that the talent pool simply isn’t big enough and never will be if you want really really good people. So the result is the promotion of women (and other minorities) who maybe smart and good at what they were doing but not good enough for the next step or higher. They end up out of their depth and ruin everything they touch. I think Christine Nixon was a senior officer in some NSW outback town and was promoted way above her ability in one step, we all know how that ended.

The problem is the end of meritocracy and the rise of the Midwits, Midwits who are the right sex or colour or other desired physical attributes and have some talent but not nearly as much as they think they have. Albanese is a classic midwit.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 7:45 am

Let me guess we ban labour hire companies and other job seeker grifters & the unions take over those roles?

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 7:46 am

Please note that PEPE tokens are “jokes”, with no real purpose. They have a tendency to be extremely volatile and it is possible that you may lose money in the long term.

I shouldn’t have bought $30 worth of Everyday Shiba Inu?

sfw
sfw
May 23, 2023 7:50 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu__97bVyOc

Jordan Peterson: What Kind of Job Fits You?

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 7:50 am

Albanese is a classic midwit.

You sir, are too kind.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
May 23, 2023 7:51 am

Even though it is only May I think Stan Grant has the ‘Virtue Signaller of the Year’ award wrapped up.

shatterzzz
May 23, 2023 7:51 am

Winter is coming/bloody well here, at least early morning ! .. time to add Brussel Sprouts back to the standard vegie menu ..
Local Woolies $15.90 kg .. Fairfield fruit shop $2.99 kg ……….!

rosie
rosie
May 23, 2023 7:52 am
Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 7:56 am

Yep.

The justice system is a stitch up, it’s high time people realised this.

Thanks for posting rosie.

The many problems of how our courts work need to be openly discussed, but mockingbird wreckers & gatekeepers like Ray Hadley prefer to live in an authoritarian utopia where justice is blind but also has bad aim and no conscience.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 8:03 am

Fun graph.

WTF Chart Of The Day: Bud Light Sales Dump For 6th Straight Week (23 May)

New industry data, according to The Wall Street Journal, shows that sales of Bud Light have declined for another week amid the controversy over the company’s decision to engage in a social media campaign with transgender influencer and activist Dylan Mulvaney.

Here’s the graph by itself. Interesting that first both Coors and Millers have risen in lockstep until the most recent datapoint…which is after the Miller Lite woke ad went viral too. I wonder if beer executives will notice the trend?

rosie
rosie
May 23, 2023 8:04 am

Does anyone know what CCTV is supposed to be missing from the Higgins matter?
There must be some as Higgins was allowed to see it, which is a disgrace in itself.

132andBush
132andBush
May 23, 2023 8:08 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
May 23, 2023 at 6:54 am

Thanks Cassie.
The last 90 secs sum it up.
“ Too many status conscious Tories”

Indeed.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 8:10 am

LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/may/17/miller-lite-ads-women-clothing-misogyny

A similar harassment campaign is now being waged against Sofia Colucci, the chief marketing officer for Molson Coors.

You can never disagree with a strong and independent girl boss.

As some wags have called it: “Girl bossing too close to the sun”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 8:10 am

On Monday night I will present my Q+A program, then walk away. For how long? I don’t know,” he said

Walkabout?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 23, 2023 8:10 am

He hasn’t thought it through enuff . Emotion on the run. Channelling the Elders is hard work even for the Emperor of the Voice.

Yeah, I think he might be overestimating the impact of his flounce.

Most people will not really care – sTan is just not that big of a deal, although most people have probably heard about his whinging about the Coronation, but as more of the voice becomes known the narrative of plight of Aborigines against ubiquitous racism will lend less buoyancy to those who would paddle their own grievance dinghies about Misery Bay.

As for the ABC people, they will do everything in their power short of anything at any cost to themselves. The inmates in that particular asylum or entitled and lazy believing it is enough for them to hold an opinion, from which point on it is up to others to do the hard yards and pay the cost of implementing them. They consider it a good week’s work to splice together some dodgy clips from Animal groups and then destroy an industry (and all the people in it). They will sign sign petitions claiming the ABC’s governance must change, do programs to explain that the racism in the ABC is actually the fault of middle Australia and not theirs, or demand new quotas – but they will make sure that they themselves remain as ensconced and sclerotic as they have ever been.

After all, the ABC is really only staffed by aging Sydney Uni undergraduates from the 70’s. You can bet when the free-trade organic soy-almond milk gives them a rash they still blame their Dads.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 8:11 am

LOL again…

Rather than protecting their employees and sticking by a consistent set of principles, Anheuser-Busch, which owns Bud Light, seemed to throw its executives under the bus and kowtow to the bigoted masses.

If they don’t give the masses what they want, no one has a job, you femme bot cretin.

Crossie
Crossie
May 23, 2023 8:11 am

Warwick says:
May 23, 2023 at 7:04 am
“http://https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-22/nsw-police-boss-defends-call-not-to-watch-95yo-being-tasered/102376328?>

This may have already been posted but the Commissioner of NSW Police will not watch the body cam footage. Another Christine, ” A Girls got to Eat!” Nixon. Sack her this morning. Unbelievable.

Apparently the Commissioner’s own mother suffers from alzheimers and watching the recording would be triggering. We have a teenage girl running the NSW Police.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
May 23, 2023 8:12 am

Couple of names from this blog sprung to mind;

“Above all, don’t lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others.”
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Cassie of Sydney
May 23, 2023 8:13 am

“There must be some as Higgins was allowed to see it, which is a disgrace in itself.”

Yep, and I’m going to some words that will annoy the Queanbeyan bee here, but when I read that in the Oz last night, along with Sharaz threatening the ACT police, I felt physically sick.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 8:14 am

Does anyone know what CCTV is supposed to be missing from the Higgins matter?
There must be some as Higgins was allowed to see it, which is a disgrace in itself.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0AbvnTgGH8s

duncanm
duncanm
May 23, 2023 8:14 am

Bear Necessitiessays:
May 23, 2023 at 7:51 am
Even though it is only May I think Stan Grant has the ‘Virtue Signaller of the Year’ award wrapped up.

I’m not even going to go near his self-immersed sob story. It’s not about you, Stan.

What a flog. What a child.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
May 23, 2023 8:15 am

Dot.

That is exactly what the CFMMEU is trying to do but it has been going on for years. Casuals generally aren’t unionised and most of us are happy with the arrangement of no sick/holiday pay for a 15-25% loading on wages.

Crossie
Crossie
May 23, 2023 8:16 am

H B Bear says:
May 23, 2023 at 8:10 am
On Monday night I will present my Q+A program, then walk away. For how long? I don’t know,” he said
Walkabout?

Maybe he should spend some time with NT teenage night raiders and then just tell us what he learnt, not what we should do. They will have to come up with solutions to their own problems, we can’t make them change. But then again that is the white colonisers’ way so the likelihood of change is nil.

duncanm
duncanm
May 23, 2023 8:16 am

meet the government’s minimum care requirements, which include 24/7 mandatory registered nurses.

ah yes – jobs for the wukkas – sexual equality edition.

duncanm
duncanm
May 23, 2023 8:18 am

Tomsays:
May 23, 2023 at 4:45 am
The new fred was late, so today’s cartoons are on the old fred, starting here.

thanks for your service, Tom.

Spooner a cracker this morning.

Cassie of Sydney
May 23, 2023 8:19 am

“We have a teenage girl running the NSW Police.”

She’s a complete mediocrity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 23, 2023 8:20 am

rosiesays:

May 23, 2023 at 8:04 am

Does anyone know what CCTV is supposed to be missing from the Higgins matter?
There must be some as Higgins was allowed to see it, which is a disgrace in itself.

There was footage of them going through security and leaving the building and also, I think, in a main corridor.
Contrary to the assertions of Googlery LLB, KC, there is no CCTV from the office suites.
The “CCTV” which Dumgold and his feminista sidekick imagines was destroyed was, in fact, a Fork Orners re-construction.
And, yes, there is no way Britnah should have been permitted to look at it before giving statements and evidence. The time-stamps alone give her an opportunity to frame her story.

Crossie
Crossie
May 23, 2023 8:20 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
May 23, 2023 at 8:13 am
“There must be some as Higgins was allowed to see it, which is a disgrace in itself.”

Yep, and I’m going to some words that will annoy the Queanbeyan bee here, but when I read that in the Oz last night, along with Sharaz threatening the ACT police, I felt physically sick.

It does seem extraordinary that a nobody like Sharaz can threat the police and they fold. Who did he say sent him? When we know that we will know everything.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
May 23, 2023 8:21 am

Farmer Gez, what worse is he doubles down on his hypocrisy. Wow how did such a dim bulb get so high on the corporate tree?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 8:22 am

She’s a complete mediocrity.

That has never been a career limiting characteristic.

caveman
caveman
May 23, 2023 8:23 am

Does anyone know what CCTV is supposed to be missing from the Higgins matter?
There must be some as Higgins was allowed to see it, which is a disgrace in itself.

I think Higgins was looking to make sure her VPL wasn’t showing.

Crossie
Crossie
May 23, 2023 8:25 am

Dot says:
May 23, 2023 at 7:50 am
Albanese is a classic midwit.
You sir, are too kind.

And still better than KRudd. Kevni an apt ambassador to the current crap American government.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 8:26 am

One suspects Dave Sharaz hasn’t had his 15 minutes of fame yet.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 8:26 am

Well said sir.

‘The Truth of My Life Disproves Their Lies’: GOP Sen. Tim Scott Launches Presidential Campaign in North Charleston (22 May)

He has no chance of getting the nomination, but a pretty fair one of being the running mate to whoever is the Presidential candidate, especially if he does well in this campaign effort.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 8:29 am

If there are jobs for the girls, they’re going to try to maximise the wage bill as this increases union coffers the most.

RNs are better paid than a lot of experienced teachers and better than rookie cops.

I’m not against the being paid well but the image from the 1960s of AINs being paid peanuts does not represent ENs, RNs or NPs being paid now. It’s absurd to continually play such a small violin without tuning it frequently. NPs are paid better than doctors in training (excluding OT).

The NSW Ambos are trying on another wage rise (heard an ad campaign on the radio yesterday IIRC); “worst paid in Australia”, again I don’t begrudge these people. There are many pay grades from “patient transport officer” to fully qualified aeromedical paramedics; the senior staff and overtime and allowances.

See here

https://www1.health.nsw.gov.au/pds/ActivePDSDocuments/IB2022_046.pdf

What they’re actually paid is likely a closely guarded secret.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 23, 2023 8:32 am

There used to be a sex shop in Queanbeyan called the Queen Bee.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 23, 2023 8:32 am

Yep, and I’m reminded of another useless female, Catherine Burn, who was the deputy police commissioner at the time of the Lindt Cafe terrorist incident

Wasn’t she the police officer who rejected the offer of Two Commando to storm the Lindt Cafe? They had built a replica of the cafe, and worked out how to storm it? Unkind souls suggested that she wanted “Negotiated end to terrorist situation” on her resume?

shatterzzz
May 23, 2023 8:32 am

It’s a worry! .. 2nd time in a week I’ve upticked ROWE ….. LOL!

Crossie
Crossie
May 23, 2023 8:33 am

H B Bear says:
May 23, 2023 at 8:22 am
She’s a complete mediocrity.
That has never been a career limiting characteristic.

That is very true particularly when said mediocrity is just a figure head while a hatchet person, usually an assistant, is the real power wielded. I have worked in such an environment where the director was mostly PR and we listen politely in meetings and then listened carefully when the hatchet woman rose to speak.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 23, 2023 8:34 am

Agree Crossie that Rudd rubbish is a very good fit into the degenerate DC scene.

duncanm
duncanm
May 23, 2023 8:36 am

Interesting chat with JP from “AwakenwithJP”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M043Qj46Ww

like many others, becoming a parent seemed to flip a responsibility switch.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 8:38 am

There used to be a sex shop in Queanbeyan called the Queen Bee.

You wonder who formed the client base? The less time spent in the outer suburbs of Canberra (or just outer suburbs generally) the better.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 8:41 am

Pulitzer Prize news.

Pulitzer Prize Goes to Queer Troll Author* (21 May)

The Pulitzer Prizes embraced the transgender agenda in a major way this year by awarding transgender “woman” Andrea Long Chu with the prize for criticism, recognizing “her” book reviews that have appeared in Vox Media-owned New York magazine and its site, Vulture.

So who is Andrea Long Chu?

For starters, Chu is a heterosexual man who identifies as a woman, though he has called himself a “trans lesbian.” By one account, the Duke University and NYU graduate’s birth name was Andrew. Even before joining New York magazine in 2021, he was a darling of the cultural elite due to this essays on feminism and gender transitioning.

But of course. Trannies, even just men who wear women’s clothing are at the peakiest peak of the totem pole right now. Everyone has to have a tranny on their books or an apocalypse happens, or something. Incidentally WaPo and NYT still haven’t given back their Pulitzers for their fake Wussians dossier “reporting”.

(*I’ve cut short the headline as it’s too early in the morning for the rest of what it says.)

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 23, 2023 8:41 am

At least 23 aged care facilities have closed as they struggle to conform to the Albanese government’s newly imposed reforms to the sector.

Another example of government ‘destroying the village to save it’?

sfw
sfw
May 23, 2023 8:43 am

Dot – “RNs are better paid than a lot of experienced teachers and better than rookie cops.”

Maybe in some places, however my wife is an RN with plenty of experience. She was working at an NE Vic aged care facility near Wodonga, RN in charge of her area with around 50 residents and a fair number of EN’s and PCA’s, she was getting $32 an hour (full time). That’s crap money, real crap money. She tried to negotiate a better rate, she wanted $40/hour but they wouldn’t budge so she left and is now doing contract nursing in the aged care sector. It’s casual of course but the base rate is $62/hour with up to $110/hour on weekends an public holidays etc. She also gets a big living away from home allowance, airfares, hire car and serviced apartment provided. It must cost on average up to $1000 for an eight hour shift for the nursing home.

The thing I don’t understand is that these facilities refuse to pay a reasonable wage to full time employees but pay big money to agency staff. Where she currently is most of the staff are agency, there’s usually only one or two permanents on out of a dozen staff at anytime. I can’t see how they afford it, unless the gov subsidises the agency staff or something. Someone suggested that the home owners may get kickbacks from the agencies or that the home operators also own the staffing agencies. Either way it doesn’t make sense to me.

We don’t care, she is making in one week what used to take her three weeks and putting money in the bank for the hard times on the horizon.

CharlieP
CharlieP
May 23, 2023 8:43 am

A school, somewhere on the gold coast had a women turn up to announce her child was now to be known as a Tree. A non binary species apparently.

As someone dear to me retorted
‘A chip off the old block.’

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 8:46 am

Crossie at 8:33 – that reminds me of a meeting we had with a particularly senior guy with one of the major building materials companies. He was vey good but all the numbers and modelling had to go through his guy. The relationship struck me as the regent and his knights. Apparently they swapped companies together. We were chasing money – they told us to go away. The next few years proved our market analysis was actually pretty good.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 23, 2023 8:48 am

ABC presenter Stan Grant lashes online hatred needs a break from the media

Julian Leeser defends Stan Grant following ‘online hatred’

By Sophie Elsworth
Media Writer
@sophieelsworth
8:38AM May 23, 2023

Q+A host Stan Grant said he is “down right now” but “will get back up” after taking a much-needed break from his role at the public broadcaster.

Visibly upset, the Wiradjuri, Gurrawin and Dharawal man hosted his final Q+A program on Monday night before taking an indefinite break and in the final minutes of the show he condemned those who had racially attacked him and his family and said the online abuse had taken a toll.

“To those who have abused me and my family I would just say, if you’re aim was to hurt me you’ve succeeded and I’m sorry, I’m sorry that I must have given you so much cause to hate me so much to target me and my family and make threats against me, I’m sorry,” he said on air.
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“Please send that support and care to those of my people who feel abandoned and alone and are wondering whether they have a place in this country and who don’t have my privileges.”

Grant announced last Friday he was standing down as host of Q+A and would no longer write columns for the ABC after declaring he was the target of “relentless” racial abuse.

He received a standing ovation from the Q+A audience just days after he expressed his “disappointment” in the lack of support offered to him by his employer after the public broadcaster received intense criticism for its coverage of King Charles III’s coronation earlier this month.

Grant was critical of the media during his final on-air address and said: “We in the media must ask if we are truly honouring a world worth living in.

“I’m not walking away for a while because of racism, we get that far too often, I’m not walking away because of social media hatred, I need a break from the media.

“I feel like I’m part of the problem and I feel like I need to ask myself how or if we can do it better.”

Independent senator David Pocock who was part of the Q+A panel broadcast from the ABC’s Melbourne studios in Southbank, said during the show: “We clearly have a long way to go”.

“When you see someone like Stan and what’s happening to him or watching Adam Goodes getting booed, that’s not just Adam Goodes getting booed that has a ripple effect,” he said.

Other panellists included Labor MP Dr Michelle Ananda-Rajah, Liberal MP Zoe McKenzie, independent senator Tammy Tyrrell and Greens MP Max Chandler-Mather.

ABC managing director David Anderson issued a public apology to Grant on Sunday and expressed sorrow that he had been the target of “such sickening behaviour”.

On Monday hundreds of ABC staff walked off the job across the country, some holding signs that read, “I Stand With Stan” and “We Reject Racism”, while others held Aboriginal flags.

Among those present at the protests including Grant’s wife and ABC broadcaster Tracey Holmes and Grant’s ex-wife and NITV host Karla Grant, while the ABC’s director of news Justin Stevens addressed staff and said: “I am incredibly sorry that he (Grant) felt let down by our organisation, we could have done better by him, by defending him”.

Grant was part of a one-hour panel in the lead-up to the coronation that discussed at length colonisation and the detrimental impacts of the British monarchy on Indigenous Australians, resulting in more than 1700 complaints by viewers.

The fallout has since resulted in the ABC ombudsman Fiona Cameron conducting a review of the coverage, and whether it breached editorial standards.

Grant was formally appointed as the sole host of Q+A in July 2022, a full year after Hamish Macdonald quit and was replaced for several months with a rotating roster of presenters.

Radio National breakfast host Patricia Karvelas will host Q+A next Monday while Grant considers his future.

ABC news director Justin Stevens said on radio on Monday the Q+A program would go on a break in a few weeks and “hopefully he (Grant) will return after the mid-season break”.

Indolent
Indolent
May 23, 2023 8:50 am
132andBush
132andBush
May 23, 2023 8:50 am

Rockdoctor says:
May 23, 2023 at 8:21 am
Farmer Gez, what worse is he doubles down on his hypocrisy. Wow how did such a dim bulb get so high on the corporate tree?

Haven’t looked him up but no doubt has all the right credentials (very important).
His quote “Not all wind farms are the same”, wow!

News for you, you crony capitalist carpet bagger. They ARE all the same. Towering, useless monstrosities, despoiling the landscape no matter where they propagate, which will one day be considered symbols of the abject stupidity and craven greed of a clique among us who give used car salesman a good name.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 23, 2023 8:51 am

A school, somewhere on the gold coast had a women turn up to announce her child was now to be known as a Tree. A non binary species apparently.

“Rip, rip woodchip – turn it into paper….”

Or,

“You’re in luck when you’ve got a McCullough chain saw – you’ve got power by the hour in your hands….”

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 8:51 am

With the Victorian state budget looming, The Guardian’s Benita Kovolos asks, ‘Who will pay Victoria’s massive covid debt?’

Who do you think will, Benita? Take a wild guess…

Indolent
Indolent
May 23, 2023 8:53 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 8:55 am

Anyone who raises Adam Goodes generally doesn’t know what they are talking about, doesn’t care or is just a flog. At the same time “racists” were booing Goodes Eddie Betts, Burgoyne and others were being revered.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 8:55 am

Holy cow these kids are dumb (and probably very racist) criminals.

He f*cked around and found out.
Paul Joseph Watson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJqJbOxL32c

The hilarity will end when someone takes his “pranks” as a threat and stabs or bludgeons him to death in one fell swoop.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 23, 2023 8:56 am

Don’t forget “National Sorry Day” this Friday, Cats! No me, neither.

How often would you say sorry to someone and why?

This Friday is National Sorry Day. Every year on May 26 we remember and acknowledge the past injustices against Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples who were removed from their families and became the Stolen Generations.

Sorry Day is a time to think about the impacts of Australian practices and attitudes towards Indigenous Australians. It could be through reflecting on the past by conducting your own research, or it may be through thinking about the thoughts and perspectives you have about Indigenous Australians and asking yourself why you hold these views. It is not an easy task.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 8:57 am

The current useless female Commissioner of NSW Police should resign.

She’d be out of her depth running a country town station.

What were they thinking?

Oh yes, Diversity!…Equity!…Inclusion!

(Remember when the prog left derided three word slogans?)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 8:59 am

It was always going to happen.

California school district removes Nazi symbols from ‘The Sound of Music’ (2 May)

A California school district has removed Nazi symbols from a sixth grade performance of “The Sound of Music.”

Rolling Hills Elementary school in Fullerton, California will perform the play this week, originally a 1959 stage musical that became a classic movie released 1965 starring Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer that takes place in Austria in the years before the Holocaust, without any Nazi imagery over age appropriateness and what they said was concern that it could be exploited by far-right extremists.

More likely they are afraid someone might notice that California is now run by Nazis. The movie will be next to get the treatment.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 23, 2023 8:59 am

It does seem extraordinary that a nobody like Sharaz can threat the police and they fold. Who did he say sent him? When we know that we will know everything.

Yes, it does seem like there is more to that.
It wouldn’t be the first time the spouse/boyfriend/root du jour of a complainant tried to hurry things along. Normally they would get a “your call is important to us” and ignored or, at best, a soothing call-back from “the manager” and then also ignored.
ACT Plod were obviously spooked by the call and the threat.
Technically, Sharaz could be on the hook for attempting to pervert the course of justice. That law normally doesn’t apply to those connected with a complainant, but that is precisely what he was doing.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 9:01 am

The “CCTV” which Dumgold and his feminista sidekick imagines was destroyed was, in fact, a Fork Orners re-construction.

You could not possibly make this up; if it was fiction it would be dismissed as too unbelievable, sheer nonsense.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 23, 2023 9:01 am

Caroline Wilson on Neil Mitchell discussing Hardwick’s departure as Richmond coach.
“A doyenne of football journalism” according to Mitchell… Ooh boy!
Hardwick was a tough and highly talented footballer – two premierships with the Bombers as a player – three premierships for the Tigers since 2010 as coach.
Caro thought it could be seen as a bit weak for him to leave mid year.
Give me a break.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 9:02 am

Technically, Sharaz could be on the hook for attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Proving gens rea and mens rea has always been a technical argument, technically.

rosie
rosie
May 23, 2023 9:04 am

I loved watching your video Bear.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 9:07 am

A school, somewhere on the gold coast had a women turn up to announce her child was now to be known as a Tree. A non binary species apparently.

When you belong in Northern NSW but just leave the cheap meth and your amateur porn career.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 9:08 am

A school, somewhere on the gold coast had a women turn up to announce her child was now to be known as a Tree. A non binary species apparently.

Little darling this is the end
I needed you like oxygen
“I am an island”, some sucker scrawled
“I am an island”, On a city wall

*No man is an island*. Well sir, I identify as an island.

—-

Heh heh heh heh

Years ago
I was an angry young man
And I’d pretend
That I was a billboard
Standing tall
By the side of the road
I fell in love
With a beautiful highway
This used to be real estate
Now it’s only fields and trees
Where, where is the town
Now, it’s nothing but flowers
The highways and cars
Were sacrificed for agriculture
I thought that we’d start over
But I guess I was wrong

duncanm
duncanm
May 23, 2023 9:09 am

Julian Leeser defends Stan Grant following ‘online hatred’

I’m seriously disappointed with Leeser, but maybe that’s my fault for expecting anything from the SFL’s these days.

Yesterday, I heard he’s pushing for laws against the use of the swastika and other Nazi symbols (salute etc).

Yes – banning speech.

Very liberal of you, Julian.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 9:10 am

Caroline Wilson

The AFL’s in-house crone.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 9:12 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 9:15 am

You could not possibly make this up; if it was fiction it would be dismissed as too unbelievable, sheer nonsense.

This is why my satire career foundered and my Australia Council grant applications keep getting rejected.

Crossie
Crossie
May 23, 2023 9:15 am

flyingduk says:
May 23, 2023 at 8:41 am
At least 23 aged care facilities have closed as they struggle to conform to the Albanese government’s newly imposed reforms to the sector.
Another example of government ‘destroying the village to save it’?

Before the election when the promise of an RN in every nursing home 24/7/365 there were very few details so that people could add their own assumptions. I think the general assumption was that the federal government was going to assure the provision of the RNs. I don’t remember if anyone read the fine print, or even if there was any, that the nursing homes will be forced to provide the RNs or risk their accreditation.

The whole point of the proposal was to generate good vibes and votes for Labor, mission accomplished. At some point the current initiative will be changed or scrapped.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 9:17 am

How’s “the post industrial economy” working out for you, America?

Alexander Hamilton chimes in.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 9:17 am

Just saw a dumb ad on YouTube telling me work from home lacks connection so I need to join the failing and epically shit-tastic MetaVerse for da “connection”.

Also

“Cheerleaders at their best”

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gkYxoNbOcE8

Cheerleaders at their best… Size does not matter!

Haha…I beg to differ. That was a horrifying and bizarre spectacle. They’re not beautiful, they’re dying.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 23, 2023 9:20 am

Caroline Wilson.

A footy fan website that I frequent has long called Caro “custard pants”.

I won’t name the team the site supports. Not Richmond though.

Crossie
Crossie
May 23, 2023 9:21 am

duncanm says:
May 23, 2023 at 9:09 am
Julian Leeser defends Stan Grant following ‘online hatred’
I’m seriously disappointed with Leeser, but maybe that’s my fault for expecting anything from the SFL’s these days.

I wasn’t surprised at all, Leeser is one of them who had simply infiltrated the Libs to get elected. If all the LibNats who are lefties actually joined the party of their beliefs, Labor and greens, they would never get preselected let alone elected. So stupid Liberals and Nats had to be it though admittedly less so the Nats.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 23, 2023 9:23 am

Has that relentless career ending racial abuse sTan endured ever been detailed?
Was it along the lines of being refused service at his favourite tanning salon,
or getting a tune-up by the wallopers for driving a nice car while tan?
Or was it something worse, like online shit posting?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 23, 2023 9:25 am

The whole point of the proposal was to generate good vibes and votes for Labor, mission accomplished. At some point the current initiative will be changed or scrapped.

Having a RN in every nursing home was an unachievable pie dream.

A bit like spastic Bowen’s ruinables. 22,000km of transmission lines that won’t/can’t be built in the next decade.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 23, 2023 9:25 am

flyingduk says: May 23, 2023 at 8:41 am

At least 23 aged care facilities have closed as they struggle to conform to the Albanese government’s newly imposed reforms to the sector.

Another example of government ‘destroying the village to save it’?

When any level of service is better than nothing, raising the minimum legal standard of quality does damage to some people.

Speaking of “the Albanese government’s newly imposed reforms to the sector”, what’s with the alleged upset over buy-now-pay-later services (AfterPay, Zipmoney, etc)? AlboInc will be regulating them as credit too now.
Consumer Action Law Centre chief executive Stephanie Tonkin said, via AFR:

“The primary concern from consumer groups is that people are being given credit that they simply can’t afford,” she said. “People are relying on buy now, pay later for essentials. They’re loan-stacking, or using one buy now, pay later to pay for another, and prioritising paying that over eating because it’s a free line of credit that they couldn’t normally access.”

It’s an entire service sector based on people buying things they can’t afford. I’m surprised it has been able to run at all. How anyone can put lipstick on that pig is a mystery.

I don’t know if this counts as elitism, but people with better statistical models of what you can afford probably could help by saying No when you’d be inclined to say Yes. It is possibly a conflict of interest for the credit provider to say Yes too often so they can earn more interest, although at the same time they need to be able to recoup their loans. So one has to question why normal market forces are insufficient for keeping the approval rate low enough.

The sob story about skimping on food comes without any context of how many really are doing that – and is that sufficient for regulating all the credit providers?

Looking at the other possible motivations for the regulation, there is much more consumer info that has to be downloaded to meet the new assessment requirements. Possible data hoovering motive there. Not clear from the article if that is all new info that was not being gathered from the consumer directly and warehoused already.

Are these companies effectively loan sharks with a spiffy badge? Maybe this new regulation is a good move.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 9:25 am

I think the general assumption was that the federal government was going to assure the provision of the RNs.

Possibly because the RNs were part of a $2.5bn aged care reform pledge from Albanese before the election implementing the RC recommendations.

Liars gotta lie.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 23, 2023 9:25 am

“pipe”

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 9:28 am

Here’s something I’ve been wondering for a while.

Economic forecasting using AI. I’m sure people have been using web scraping for a while to get data. It’s commonplace now and has been for a while.

But I mean hidden algorithms in security cameras, dashcams and so on. The data is used as real time or near continuous sampling of discrete industry level to individual consumer level and shop level data.

Imagine the predictions that are being made on inventories, rainfall & agricultural production, rental vacancies, business starts and closures.

Then start thinking about voice recognition. Google had an ad in my GMail today about Goolag AI doing voice to text recognised AI.

Anyone else starting to feel like livestock?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 9:28 am

Liberals and Nats had to be it though admittedly less so the Nats.

A love of big government and market interference has never held anyone back in the Nationals.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 9:31 am

What I’m also saying is that AI might be listening to market sensitive information let alone some cluey people talking about their bright ideas. I’m not saying it will steal your ideas but the raw data will be revealed in some way before market announcements are actually made.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 9:32 am

I wonder if the options markets might even show this with out of the money options trades before things like the Bud Light implosion, etc.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 9:33 am

Barking Toad at 9:25 – St Jacinta’s 10,000 public houses. People fall for this monorail stuff every time. No wonder the kids-in-short-pants love it.

vr
vr
May 23, 2023 9:38 am

Paul Simon’s new album: Seven Psalms

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 23, 2023 9:42 am

oops. Once again, caught out by commenting on the end of the old fred on a Tuesday morning. All on gender issues, so anyone interested can hop back in before the whole lot descends into the forgettery, or report back on how the freebie tampons are going in the male toilets at Sydney University.

If you have time, also check out Quadrant here for a very good article and video.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 23, 2023 9:47 am

Caro thought it could be seen as a bit weak for him to leave mid year.
Give me a break.

Caro is just shitty she didn’t get the scoop.
Players retire mid-year all the time.
No biggy.
Speaking of which, I think a few old tigers will be following him out the door. Revoldt and Cotchin to name just two.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 23, 2023 9:48 am

The new fred was late, so today’s cartoons are on the old fred, starting here.

I personally don’t get angry about things like late threads.

I bide my time. Until I am good and ready.

But, that’s me.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 23, 2023 9:49 am

A “team” of detectives investigate no less!

Comments made?

Investigation to take “weeks”?

Senior Constable Kristian White has been stood down from the NSW Police Force while a team of detectives investigate what transpired when he found himself opposite 95-year-old Clare Nowland, who was standing at her walking frame with a knife in the dementia ward of Yallambie Lodge nursing home last Wednesday.

Snr Const White allegedly discharged his weapon, causing Mrs Nowland to fall to the floor and hit her head, suffering injuries that have left her receiving “end of life care” in Cooma Hospital surrounded by family.

Several police sources have told The Daily Telegraph the comments made by Snr Const White in the moments before he opened fire will be key to the investigation being led by the State Crime Command‘s Homicide Squad.

Snr Const White joined the force more than a decade ago and his work had been featured on the Monaro Police District Facebook page over the years.

(Senior Constable Kristian White has been stood down, pending an investigation, over the incident at Yallambie Lodge last week. Picture: NSW Police Facebook)

Police sources warned an outcome and any charges could yet be weeks away, with a crucial report from the Weapons Training Unit expected to take up to a fortnight.

NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb defended the fact she had not watched the footage on Monday morning, saying that doing so could “taint” a decision she may be required to make about Snr Const White‘s employment.

Daily Tele

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 23, 2023 9:51 am

Jurgen Tampkes book “A Perfidious Distortion of History” makes good reading on the subject of the Armistice that ended the First World War, the Versailles Peace Treaty and the rise of the Nazis.

Regarding Grogarly’s claim that the Allied blockade of Germany extended past the Armistice, and hundreds of thousands of Germans starved as a result, it seems that the Allies allowed, as a condition of the Armistice, that Germany be allowed to import food, provided it used its own merchant shipping. German shipowners refused, because they feared that their ships, having left their harbors, would be confiscated. (Page 132.)

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 23, 2023 9:51 am

That was a horrifying and bizarre spectacle. They’re not beautiful, they’re dying.

Well, they’re lithe enough and exercising and relatively young, so dying is a stretch yet to come.
All they have to do now is stop excessive eating for a year, keep dancing and be the women they are.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 23, 2023 10:04 am

Sky News host Sharri Markson said if NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb doesn’t understand that the tasering of a 95-year-old dementia patient Clare Nowland is “abhorrent” and “unacceptable” then “she has to go.” … “What we need to hear is that the police officer has been sacked – or at the very least stood down while the investigation is underway.”

Sharri versus Karen; A blue-on-blue incident? 😀

Part of me says mistakes happen and certain kinds of professions have to be able to risk mistakes just to do their job (doctors and soldiers spring to mind) and firing somebody isn’t constructive. But another part of me agrees with Sharri. When the mistake is the sort that can be fatal to the suspect (or other member of the public), a condemnation and some action to show this will remain an exception and not the new normal would be the least the Commish should do. Markson was only asking for words, which we know are pretty cheap these days.

Chris
Chris
May 23, 2023 10:06 am

LIBERTY QUOTE
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

— C. S. Lewis

Worth stuffing and mounting. Maybe a fridge magnet for Parliament House bar fridge.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 23, 2023 10:08 am

I bet you the Taser constable gets off. His defence will likely be (KD?) that his training said “if knife then use Taser”.

It might be that “common sense” says throw a blanket over her, or contain her with a chair, but his training didn’t say that, so if he goes outside his training he is dead meat. So he didn’t.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 23, 2023 10:08 am

Nightmare fuelled failure of psychiatry.
I suspect the horror show/clown show account is heading for a ban.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 10:14 am

Speaking of which, I think a few old tigers will be following him out the door. Revoldt and Cotchin to name just two.

At least one other club needs to have a mid winter bonfire of the deadwood.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 23, 2023 10:17 am

New Zealand’s sheep-to-people ratio at record low (five to one)
Joshua Thurston
Monday May 22 2023, 6.00pm BST, The Times
New Zealand
ALAMY
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For years New Zealanders have endured jokes about how they are massively outnumbered by sheep. But figures show that the gap between humans and the country’s most famous livestock is narrowing and now stands at fewer than five to one, the lowest ratio since the 1850s.

The Agricultural Production Census has revealed that the national flock fell by 400,000 sheep, or 2 per cent, to 25.3 million in June 2022. The country is home to 5.2 million people. That is a huge reduction when compared with the recent past. In 1982 there were 22 sheep for every person.

“The ratio of sheep to people dropped below five to one in 2022, for the first time since the 1850s, when national sheep numbers were first recorded,” said Jason Attewell, an analyst at Stats NZ.

The rising cost of farming and falling wool prices is being blamed for the drop in woollyback numbers, which peaked at 72 million during the 1980s. As one of the world’s leading wool exporters, New Zealand sent £228 million worth overseas last year.

The sheep census is carried out every five years but this year has provoked controversy among some farming groups, who disagreed with how Stats NZ measures agricultural emissions. As a result, the farmer lobby group Groundswell urged those in the industry to boycott the survey.

calli
calli
May 23, 2023 10:20 am

Chris says:
May 23, 2023 at 10:06 am

Lewis’ famous quote dovetails neatly with Matrix’s post early this morning. Isles giving an address to young people about “Babylon” and the modern age.

You will be punished, but it will be for your own good.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 10:21 am

I bet you the Taser constable gets off. His defence will likely be (KD?) that his training said “if knife then use Taser”.

Otoh, training says if body mass is low, as in child or frail & elderly, do not taser as could be fatal.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 23, 2023 10:23 am

Excellent article by Samuel Mullins at Quadrant about Sleazy.

“The Midwit Shallowness Of Anthony Albanese”

His only real job was for 12 months in a bank.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 10:23 am

NZ population Ponzi.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 10:24 am

…if body mass is low, as in child or frail & elderly, do not taser as could be fatal.

I understand this is the manufacturer’s recommendation and if it isn’t inlcuded in NSW police training it should be more than just Const. White’s job on the line.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
May 23, 2023 10:24 am

Re-posted from old thread, as worth reading.

One of the benefits of the increased focus on all things Aboriginal is that we may be prompted to test some of what we are told to see if it is actually true.

Regrettably, even a cursory examination reveals that much of what we are told about the ‘oldest continuous living culture on earth’ seems to not be as accurate as others would have us believe.

That’s not to denigrate the history of Aboriginal tribes, it’s just that I wonder why some groups need to make things up if there is already so much to be proud of.

We’ve previously discussed the ubiquitous welcome to country ceremony.

It was invented in the 1970’s by Ernie Dingo to appease some performing Pacific Islanders.

Now it’s become an ancient ritual that only gets performed when someone woke corporate or government agency seems to be paying for it.

But that’s just the start of the myth-making.

DNA research suggests that Aboriginal people are descendants of the first people to leave Africa up to 75,000 years ago.

Australian Geographic reports:

A century-old lock of hair, given by a West Australian indigenous man to an anthropologist, has led to the discovery that ancestors of Aboriginal Australians reached Asia at least 24,000 years before another wave of migration that populated Europe and Asia.

Experts from the University of Western Australia (UWA) and Murdoch University were part of an international team that analysed DNA from the hair, and found no hereditary material from European immigrants to Australia. This made the man’s DNA a perfect candidate for looking at the history of Aboriginal migration.

Another study from the American Journal of Human Genetics found that when these ancestors of Aboriginals crossed through Asia, they may have interbred with Siberian people.

For that study, DNA was extracted from a finger bone excavated in the freezing temperatures of Siberia to analyse the migration of people to tropical parts of Asia and Australia more than 40,000 years ago.

Examining DNA from the finger, researchers from the Harvard Medical School in the US and the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany concluded that the Denisovans – a primitive group of humans descended from Neanderthals – migrated from Siberia to tropical parts of Asia. They contributed DNA to Aborigines along with present-day New Guineans and an indigenous tribe in the Philippines known as Mamanwa.

History is certainly fascinating and these studies seem to confirm that everyone in Australia actually migrated here from somewhere else.

It also suggests that the cultures that didn’t leave Africa can lay claim to the title of oldest continuous living culture on Earth.

One of those cultures is the San people, also known as Bushmen. They are among the indigenous people of Southern Africa.

A DNA study of fully sequenced genomes, published in September 2016, showed that the ancestors of today’s San hunter-gatherers began to diverge from other human populations in Africa about 200,000 years ago and were fully isolated by 100,000 years ago.

That’s just one example of human history that doesn’t conform with the narrative we are being fed about our earliest migrants.

Here’s another one.

You’re likely forgiven for thinking that ‘dot painting’ is traditional Aboriginal art. I mean, that’s how it has been presented to us for as long as I can remember.

Imagine my surprise to learn from Creative Spirits that:

“dot painting on canvas emerged in central Australia only in the early 1970s as a result of Aboriginal people working together with a white art school teacher, Geoffrey Bardon.”

The ‘dots’ were apparently added to disguise the original art which reportedly depicted secrets. It’s a fascinating tale but one I feel few would be aware of.

I don’t doubt there are many more historic inaccuracies in the legend of our first migrants.

Maybe it really is time to support the ‘truth telling’ but somehow, I don’t think these inconvenient truths are the telling that the indigenous lobby is demanding.

Until tomorrow.

Cory

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 10:25 am

His only real job was for 12 months in a bank.

Meh. Even I managed over 24.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 10:26 am

His only real job was for 12 months in a bank.

Which bank?

[rhetorical question; we can guess.]

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 10:27 am

TEN SHEEP FOR EV-ERY GUY……OHHHHHHH! (WAH WAH WAH WAH)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 23, 2023 10:27 am

His only real job was for 12 months in a bank.

Even Sarah Sea Patrol managed eighteen months in a bank.

P
P
May 23, 2023 10:29 am

MatrixTransform says:
May 23, 2023 at 7:25 am

Most Christians Don’t Know THIS About Babylon

How good is this.
Thanks for posting.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 23, 2023 10:31 am

With the Victorian state budget looming, The Guardian’s Benita Kovolos asks, ‘Who will pay Victoria’s massive covid debt?’
Who do you think will, Benita? Take a wild guess…

Hun:

Big business is set to bear the brunt of paying down Victoria’s record debt with a new levy expected to be introduced in Tuesday’s budget.

It comes as the Andrews government plans to keep spending more money than it brings in for at least another year, before returning to a promised operating surplus.

It is understood a new business tax will be a centrepiece of the government’s Covid-19 Debt Repayment Plan which aims to pay down $31.5bn of pandemic borrowings.

The move follows a controversial new tax on thousands of businesses introduced to fund reforms to the state’s mental health system.

Defending the mental health levy at the time, Treasurer Tim Pallas said it was ­appropriate businesses that benefited during the pandemic made substantial contributions in its wake.

Forecasts ahead of Tuesday’s budget predict Victoria will record an operating surplus of $1bn in 2025-26.

That figure is $100m higher than forecast in last year’s pre-election budget update. The surplus is forecast to grow to $1.2bn by 2026-27.

The bold prediction is to be realised on the back of significant cuts to government programs and the number of public sector employees.

An increase in taxes, fees and charges are also tipped to feature in Mr Pallas’s ninth budget as the government reins in spending and pays down its record debt.

The debt is on track to soar to $165bn by 2025-26 with senior government sources saying that figure is forecast to grow significantly higher.

But it is understood all ­efforts have been made to keep it below $200bn. (phew, that’s a relief!)

Shadow treasurer Brad Rowswell said net debt was projected to reach $187bn by 2026-27 based on annualised growth forecasts in the pre-election budget update.

The same forecasts expect interest payments to rise to $9.2bn and tax revenue to climb to $37.1bn, up from $31.2bn estimated for 2022-23.

“It it’s big business that pays, or it’s small business that pays, Victorians pay, that’s how it works,” Mr Rowswell said.

“(The) budget will show that under Labor, Victoria is broke.”

Opposition finance spokeswoman Jess Wilson said three key components desperately needed to be addressed in the budget, calling for better ­financial management of Big Build projects, relief of housing pressures and more support for small business.

“Unfortunately there is no case for optimism in the budget,” she said.

“This is going to be a brutal budget … Under Labor, Victorians are being punished for this government’s incompetence.”

The government has already announced businesses face a 42 per cent hike in WorkCover premiums, making the scheme one of the most expensive in the country.

Thousands of public service jobs are expected to be cut, funding to community groups and government programs slashed and infrastructure spending to take a hit.

Major projects including Melbourne Airport Rail have been paused, with the budget to reveal the true scale of cost blowouts and timing delays.

Deputy Premier Jacinta Allan on Monday dodged questions about new taxes, but suggested families would not be affected. However, she ­refused to rule out new or increased taxes such as changes to registration or licensing fees.

“This will not be something that will be affecting hardworking Victorian families,” she said.

But she doubled down on blaming the Reserve Bank for Victoria’s debt saying it was “taken on because of the urging of the RBA”. (FMD)

It came after economists shot down the government’s claims that the budget emergency could be blamed on RBA governor Philip Lowe.

AMP chief economist Shane Oliver said Victoria’s finances were not the same as those of homeowners caught out by ­interest rate hikes.

But Ms Allan said the government was “simply stating the facts” because both the commonwealth and the RBA urged the states to spend to get through the pandemic.

“Governments around the country joined together through forums like national cabinet where there was the obligation put forward to support communities, families and businesses through this unprecedented of times,” she said.

“We have come through that time but there is still the task before us to look at how we bring down that investment that was made during that Covid period.”

Already Victoria is paying $10m in interest payments a day, while Victorians are paying more per person in tax than any other state in Australia.

In 2021-22, Victorians paid an average of $5638 to the state government and local councils compared to $5537 in NSW.

The total collected by state and local government was $36.9bn, up from $29.6bn the year before – a staggering 24.6 per cent increase.

The Cassar family are doing it tough after listening to the Reserve Bank about interest rates. After monthly mortgage repayments for his home spiked $600 a month, Aintree father Luke Cassar now battles to keep his family warm.

“Every dollar you spend ­really counts,” he said, adding he was worried about the state’s debt and what it would mean for his son, Mason.

“I would be very worried if my son had to help with paying back the debt because with inflation going up and house prices rising he wouldn’t be able to get anywhere in life or earn a good living,” he said.

“We have already had to make many cuts to be able to afford things so it would be ­unfair for our kids to suffer.”

Anus of Victoria, be reintroduced to rough end of pineapple.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 23, 2023 10:32 am

if he goes outside his training he is dead meat.

Not unlike the Grey Funnel Line, where everything is in The Book.
If The Book didn’t work, you should’ve used your initiative.
If using your initiative didn’t work, you should’ve followed The Book.
Court Martial or medal.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 23, 2023 10:33 am

It does seem extraordinary that a nobody like Sharaz can threat the police and they fold. Who did he say sent him? When we know that we will know everything.

Looking from the other end of the squalid transaction – another abuse heaped upon Lehrmann: His arrest was at the whim of a private citizen, although obviously ‘more equal than others’.

What is most appalling is that what happened to Lehrmann didn’t start with him. Various aspects and practices will have been visited upon countless other people whose abuses went unnoticed because it never made it to the national spotlight. The people behind this (and others like them) will have been doing this deliberately and strategically for a long time – just this time they got caught.

If this inquiry had not been held, we would have nothing but strong suspicions denounced by imperious bureaucrats and activists, amplified by a self-important media.

The last thing people would have heard Drummkopf on the steps outside the court saying that a naughty juror had scuppered the trial, and Lehrmann would certainly be frogmarched off to prison except he would not re-try because of the stress on poor Brittany (who, though Lerhmann’s sadistaic refusal to admit guilt, was still being victimised by him).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 23, 2023 10:37 am

H B Bearsays:

May 23, 2023 at 10:14 am

Speaking of which, I think a few old tigers will be following him out the door. Revoldt and Cotchin to name just two.

At least one other club needs to have a mid winter bonfire of the deadwood.

I believe they are building the pyre around Mr Simpson as we speak.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 23, 2023 10:39 am

After pay and its copycats should have been operating under the credit act all along.
The government mongs chucked rental goods into the “ have to be a registered credit agent” 20 years ago but somehow something explicitly offering credit sailed on for 10 years.
Anyway my new brainspasm involves driving a truck through the same laws with a new “ totally not credit- but you pay later, in instalments, for more than the normal purchase price”.
Then get 5 years in before they catch up and regulate it into oblivion again.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 10:40 am

Christian, somewhat sceptical, but rigorously academic apologetics.

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-story-of-Jesus-based-on-the-Egyptian-God-Horus?no_redirect=1

Ah yes, that old meme about Jesus being a copy of Horus.

Every year, around this time, you start seeing memes claiming that Jesus is “a copy of” some pre-Christian deity. One of the most popular deities for people to claim Jesus is “a copy of” is Horus, a god who was worshipped in ancient Egypt from prehistoric times until after the rise of Christianity in around the fourth century AD. Horus was believed to have been the son of the god Osiris and the goddess Isis. He was closely associated with the pharaoh and he is usually depicted in ancient Egyptian art with the head of a falcon.

The truth is, all the memes claiming that Jesus is “a copy of” such-and-such deity are wrong. Historians agree that Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure who lived in Galilee in the early first century AD and who was crucified in Jerusalem in either 30 or 33 AD under the orders of the Roman governor of Judaea, Pontius Pilatus. The stories about Jesus’s life recorded in the gospels are certainly heavily embellished with legend and fiction, but, ultimately, there was a real man who stands behind the mythological tradition. While the stories about Jesus recorded in the gospels have probably been influenced to varying extents by stories of various pagan deities, it is entirely wrong for anyone to claim that the whole story of Jesus is copied directly from any single pagan deity.

In other words, Bill Maher would have honestly been closer to the truth if he had claimed the Book of the Dead was a magical instruction manual about how to avoid eating your own poop.

—-

Nearly all the claims Bill Maher makes about Horus in Religulous, as well as nearly all the claims made about Horus in the 2007 conspiracy theory film Zeitgeist: The Movie and nearly all the claims about Horus you see in memes on the internet, can be traced directly back to Gerald Massey. Gerald Massey, however, made even more bizarre and radical claims about the connections between Jesus and Horus than even Bill Maher was willing to make.

For instance, Gerald Massey at one point seems to suggest that the King Herod mentioned in the gospels is a mythical figure based on the mythical hydra serpent Herrut from Egyptian mythology. In reality, the existence of King Herod the Great is extremely well-established and his reign is documented extensively in non-Christian sources. We even have the remains of King Herod’s tomb. Claiming that King Herod did not exist is about as reasonable as claiming that Julius Caesar did not exist.

All in all, Gerald Massey actually makes a very strange hero for New Atheist polemicists. The guy was a kook whose ideas have been completely dismissed by modern Egyptologists. It is also ironic to see atheists championing Massey’s ideas, since Massey himself was an avowed spiritualist who did not believe in Darwinian evolution because he believed it failed to account for humanity’s “spiritual evolution” (whatever that means).

At “best”- early Christians copied some iconography of the holy mother and child god incarnate.

Chris
Chris
May 23, 2023 10:40 am

His only real job was for 12 months in a bank.

Which bank?

[rhetorical question; we can guess.]

When I was long ago a Field Assistant in the wild Gulf Country we had a mixed bag of colleagues; one smug fellow had been a BNSW bankie in country postings. He boasted how he used his MGB as a surefire pickup tool for naive girl tellers, nurses and teachers being posted to the country for the first time. Invite new girl on picnic, show up with MG and cool picnic basket of champers and chicken…

When our Exploration Team Leader told us he used to work for a bank too, ‘old smug’ riposted “Which bank? The Rude and Ignorant?”
Shameface.

(For non-WA folks, the R&I Rural and Industries was a WA bank that is now known as Bankwest, and being amoebically digested into the Commonwealth)

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 10:42 am

Some commodities have some really quirky unregulated trades that occur, even in risk hungry offering to sellers. (Shhhh).

mem
mem
May 23, 2023 10:44 am

Dotsays:
May 23, 2023 at 10:27 am
TEN SHEEP FOR EV-ERY GUY……OHHHHHHH! (WAH WAH WAH WAH)

Wasn’t that,” Bah, Bah, bah”!

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 10:46 am

Baa baa baa baa
Baa baa baa rah ann…

Pogria
Pogria
May 23, 2023 10:46 am

While I agree emphatically that Taser Cop did the wrong thing and should get the boot, the nursing home must carry a lot of the blame for this awful business. My mother had dementia and I had to place her in a nursing home because she kept running away from my home. A common occurrence in dementia sufferers. She had lived with me for ten years before I had to make the decision to place her into care.
The nursing home I placed her in was excellent. There were the occasional violent ones, but there were measures and protocols in place to deal with them. Calling Police would never have occurred to staff.

Someone mentioned in the earlier thread that, one way of dealing with a patient who has a knife or other weapon, was to have two people walk toward said patient with a large towel or sheet and envelope them. Absolutely! Poor Clare was 95 and weighed 45 kilos and used a walking frame. How fast do you have to be to throw a towel over the hand holding a knife?! And yelling “put the knife down!”, is never going to work. As anyone who has had a parent or rello with dementia can attest, making demands and/or yelling only makes the oldie even more belligerent. As I read more about this sad affair, I still cannot get my head around WHY the nursing home thought the only way to deal with this problem was to call the Police. It would have taken up to half an hour for the coppers to come out. What the hell were staff doing in the meantime?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 10:47 am

I believe they are building the pyre around Mr Simpson as we speak.

The schtick is wearing a bit thin. I’m not sure he is the real problem but hey … it won’t hurt.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 10:47 am

Satire is now reality so much that satire is banned.

John Cleese is forced to cut famous Life of Brian scene about men having babies from his new West End show (22 May)

Cleese told an audience at his one-man show last week that when the scene (co-written with the late Graham Chapman) was performed at a read-through for the new show in New York last year, doubts emerged. ‘At the end, I said to the American actors: ‘What do you think?’ And they said: ‘We love the script, but you can’t do that stuff about Loretta nowadays.’

No Nazis allowed in Sound of Music and no tranny jokes in Life of Brian? Well that’s one thing the Romans never did for us. They’re going to have to cut all Brian’s mum’s scenes now, especially the one with the centurion.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 10:47 am

Or

Baa baa baa
Baa baa baa ram

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 23, 2023 10:48 am

His defence will likely be (KD?) that his training said “if knife then use Taser”.

I have heard it said in beer gardens that ‘the training’ is actually knife (a lethal use of force) may be met with firearm (a lethal use of force).

HOWEVER:

‘The training’ apparently also says these things should not be used on someone who:
1. Is covered in fuel (to avoid a ‘whoof’ moment);
2. Is a child;
3. Is known to be epileptic;
4. Is known to have existing cardiac issues; and
5. Similar.

I do not know if it specifically says ‘do not use on 95 year old women powered by walking frames’, but then again, in a Captain Obvious moment, it shouldn’t have to.

I don’t care if she went skydiving 15 years beforehand. If you can’t disarm someone almost 100 years old and who cannot stand unassisted, I’m here to say – man or woman – you have no business doing cop stuff.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 10:49 am

Best we not open up on old banking stories. It is a rich vein.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 10:51 am

At “best”- early Christians copied some iconography of the holy mother and child god incarnate.

You need to define “early” Christians.

Mary did not appear in Christian iconography did not appear until the 5th C.; as the Virgin with child from later 5th C. & 6th C. following the chief christrological debates, which were directed against Arianism.

They were more likely copying a Roman theme rather than an Egytpian one. Indeed, several secular Roman mosaic images were mistakenly thought to be the Virgin Mary with the child Jesus.

Real Deal
Real Deal
May 23, 2023 10:51 am

On Monday night I will present my Q+A program, then walk away. For how long? I don’t know,” he said

“My Q+A” “For how long? I don’t know,”
Let’s leave race out of this. He is a pompous entitled grifter. I thought he was resigning from the ABC. No just Q+A. No one resigns from the ABC. He will get bumped to some sort of “Special Projects” division with Fran Kelly etc.

I have left one or two jobs due to stress issues. When I did I lost my wages until I found another job. But Stan can stay on the public teat at the national broadcaster.

It makes me respect old ABC personalities like Clive Robertson who could leave the ABC and work successfully in commercial networks. These days people like Grant stay sinecured in taxpayer funded positions till beyond retirement age.

It’s not about race, Stan. It is purely about journeyman hacks who feel they are several cuts above everyone else. Kindly resign and take up a position that is commensurate with your abilities. I can’t begin to imagine what those abilities are.

CharlieP
CharlieP
May 23, 2023 10:52 am

My dear little grand son has just had an epileptic seizure . brought on by chest congestion due to the frigid class room conditions at his special school.

Win, I am sorry – in the general hilarity over the ‘identification as tree’, I neglected to wish your grandson a speedy recovery and no recurrence of seizures. Must have been very frightening for him, and worrying for his parents and grandparents. I hope all is well now.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 23, 2023 10:53 am

As far as calls for an immediate sacking go, I could imagine the head sheds at NSWPOL haven’t done that yet because it may prejudice a future jury.

The fact that they haven’t taken that action is a very strong indicator they intend to charge him – at the conclusion of an investigation where all defences are thoroughly negated and all bases well and truly covered.

They are learning lessons from the NT about what happens when people are charged before an investigation starts, rather than when evidence meets a certain threshold.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 10:56 am

No one resigns from the ABC. He will get bumped to some sort of “Special Projects” division with Fran Kelly etc.

Waiting for the Quentin Dumpster long goodbye. Some people die before it comes. Good luck sTan.

Crossie
Crossie
May 23, 2023 10:58 am

Top Ender says:
May 23, 2023 at 10:08 am
I bet you the Taser constable gets off. His defence will likely be (KD?) that his training said “if knife then use Taser”.

It might be that “common sense” says throw a blanket over her, or contain her with a chair, but his training didn’t say that, so if he goes outside his training he is dead meat. So he didn’t.

But if a blanket were thrown over the old lady and she fell and injured herself with the knife she was holding there would still be a furore about it. To me it seems that no matter what the police did would have been the wrong thing. If there was a right way to deal with this the nursing home staff would have used it, they wanted somebody else to be responsible.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 23, 2023 11:01 am

the Commissioner of NSW Police will not watch the body cam footage. Another Christine,

The policeman’s lawyer would benefit from reading about Charlemagne. There was a story of him sending ambassadors to Constantinople (“Not Istanbul…” – nah, you can’t sing it.) The Ambassador caused an uproar when he turned over a fish on the plate he was eating from – there was some rule that you could not do that in front of the monarch. The King told the ambassador that the rule extended to everyone, native or no, and the penalty was death. He then offered to grant the ambassador one wish – anything short of saving his own life. The ambassador requested that anyone who saw him turn the fish should have their eyes gouged out. One by one all around the table people pleaded that they had not seen it so, with no witnesses, the ambassador’s life was spared.

Well, ‘Christine’ is ultimately Greek.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 11:03 am

Dot – I think you could make a better case that Aten came from a child’s memory of a certain set of traumatic events centred on a bunch of slaves and someone called YHWH. Made quite an impression.
Akhenaten appears to’ve inherited the job of pharaoh as a child, after his elder brother Thutmose disappeared in mysterious circumstances. Then, once he was old enough to swing it, he brought monotheism to Egypt for the first time ever, and from out of nowhere archaeology-wise. Never been a hint of that sort of thing hitherto. After he died the priestly class staged a soft coup and re-established the old religious concoction.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 11:05 am

If there was a right way to deal with this the nursing home staff would have used it, they wanted somebody else to be responsible.

I’m not sure what the protocol is. The fuzz were often around when I was in the brain injured place. And certainly always if someone went missing through the gate.

Dot
Dot
May 23, 2023 11:08 am

What’s the validity of Thutmose being Moses, or is this poorly pieced together amateur crud that rigorous researchers know is invalid (and can prove)?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 23, 2023 11:08 am

Matthew Goodwin doesn’t mince words.

I just watched it, Cassie. It is an excellent critique, but I don’t see the way forward yet.

I am hopeful that a win in the gender wars, which I do see coming, because most people do still believe in the existence of two sexes, may be the start of some other changes to the cultural zeitgeist. A reaction might come then, looking back to the Biden years and the madness therein, as well as the parallel confusions in Britain of Brexit vs the Remainers. Politics can change. Maybe knocking down the gender madness is the start of it, one reason why I comment here a lot about that. It’s a depth charge on our culture and stopping that might allow the convoy of good sense to get through at last.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 23, 2023 11:10 am

In reality, the existence of King Herod the Great is extremely well-established and his reign is documented extensively in non-Christian sources.

Ah, but there is a genius free-thinker woman with conventionally unconventional hair who believes…the Roman Empire never existed.

sfw
sfw
May 23, 2023 11:13 am

Dot, have you ever read ‘The Golden Bough’? it’s worth reading, modern anthropologists don’t like it but that’s because it doesn’t agree with the ‘current thing’ in anthropology.

It’s quite clear that from the earliest recorded times that Gods often had children with humans, that the God/King was part of most early societies and that the God/King often performed miracles, his subjects worshipped him often had cannibalistic rituals (communion anyone?). That the Christian Church like may others, adopted and adapted previous religious rituals etc to their religion.

Read it and see if it changes your mind.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 11:13 am

No one resigns from the ABC. He will get bumped to some sort of “Special Projects” division with Fran Kelly etc.

Frankly’s “special project” just got axed.

Didn’t find an audience, apparently.

Frankly stays on the payroll, naturally.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 23, 2023 11:14 am

No worse, there is none!
Rumour has it that Fox News is in the grip of wokesters.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 11:15 am

the Commissioner of NSW Police will not watch the body cam footage. Another Christine,

Not necessarily. Some of these high management positions have an inherent conflict- almost inevitable when you have police investigating police. I’m not sure there is any real way around it. Giving investigatory powers to CCCs and IBACs creates another set of problems.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 23, 2023 11:15 am

Just had a deco at your selected painting, Dover. Nice!

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 11:17 am

I’m not sure Frank Elly even did 12 months in a bank.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 11:17 am

It’s quite clear that from the earliest recorded times that Gods often had children with humans, that the God/King was part of most early societies and that the God/King often performed miracles, his subjects worshipped him often had cannibalistic rituals (communion anyone?). That the Christian Church like may others, adopted and adapted previous religious rituals etc to their religion.

Frazer (1st ed 1890) is good but a lot has been uncovered since.

Read CS Lewis, ‘Myth Became Fact’ , in God in the Dock. He knew a thing or two about mythology and Christianity.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 11:21 am

Florida is a terrorist state that’s nice to go on holidays to.

MSNBC Guest: I Just Went to Florida for Spring Break Even Though It’s a ‘Terrorist State.’ (22 May)

Democrat strategist Aisha C. Mills: “I think it was extremely clever and I really appreciate the NAACP’s guidance on this issue. You know, I just took my family to spring break in Florida recently. And I think about all of the folks who travel there for sun and joy and peace and restoration. And to be reminded that actually this is getting to the point where Florida is about to be a terrorist state to many of us here in America.

I’m surprised they seem not to go to Afghanistan for their holidays instead. It’s a mystery.
The context:

Nolte: Two Fake Civil Rights Groups Issue Travel Warnings About Florida (22 May)

The far-left NAACP is using desperate scare tactics to stop black Americans from moving to Florida, something black Americans have been doing by the tens of thousands over the past few years.

Some fake Hispanic “civil rights” group called LULAC is doing the same with Hispanic Americans.

Anyone else notice how crazy lefties have been getting lately? Well I suppose if it scares lefties from migrating to Florida that’s OK by me. They can stay in San Francisco, Chicago and New York where they feel more comfortable.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 11:22 am

Not necessarily. Some of these high management positions have an inherent conflict- almost inevitable when you have police investigating police. I’m not sure there is any real way around it.

These sorts of positions can be occupied by leaders or bureaucrats, but not both.

As a society we’ve opted for bureaucrats.

Maybe not so much of a problem in the police, but defence is another matter.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 23, 2023 11:25 am

Crossie

I wasn’t surprised at all, Leeser is one of them who had simply infiltrated the Libs to get elected. If all the LibNats who are lefties actually joined the party of their beliefs, Labor and greens, they would never get preselected let alone elected. So stupid Liberals and Nats had to be it though admittedly less so the Nats.

See also Turnbull, Malcolm.

Real Deal
Real Deal
May 23, 2023 11:30 am

I’m not sure Frank Elly even did 12 months in a bank.

Given the fact that she looks like she should be wearing a boiler suit, maybe she was a plumber, tightening pipes in the staff dunny.

Or should be.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 23, 2023 11:34 am

Eyes away for a minute now, Sancho, because I’m going to say about Succession that in its Murdoch/Fox parallels which come out strongly as the final series does a redux take on the 2016 election, you see the grip of terror that the Trump ascendancy had on the media, both the front ownership crew who were self-interested but also the back up brigade working the TV consoles, all lefties losing it. America has to resolve this – either by re-electing Trump following the 2020 coup (which is what it was) or by moving on with new players and a new round and a new cultural zeitgeist that will have international repercussions in the anglosphere. Change in the universities is where the biggest change of all is needed for this is the crucible in which woke is mixed, especially the denigration of the traditional family. People may look back on the early twenties as we now see the Weimar Republic – a time sexual experimentation and of failed hopes and disenchantment in equal measure. What were they thinking, may be our grandchildren’s question as they cope with the Chinese ascendancy, the irrelevance of the invented ‘climate’ and gender cults, and the economic failures, social catastrophies and rioting it all bequeathed.

Succession has at its heart the failure of a family to do what families should do, properly nurture their children, which the episode viewed last night displayed in emotional spades. Matthew Goodwin in Cassie’s video above knows that well-functioning families matter for security, poignantly pointing out he is a child of a divorce himself. As a child myself too from what was called very rightly ‘a broken home’ back then, my own unwanted divorce in the Whitlam-era seventies brought bitter consequences upon all of my four children, most particularly on the two from the divorce.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 11:36 am

These sorts of positions can be occupied by leaders or bureaucrats, but not both.

The cops are a special case. Each copper serves while they retain the confidence of the Commissioner of Police. Not unlike but not quite the same as the armed forces. From a legal, and especially an administrative and IR law perspective, it gets pretty complex, pretty quickly.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 11:39 am

I wasn’t surprised at all, Leeser is one of them who had simply infiltrated the Libs to get elected.

If you consider his CV he doesn’t come across as that – worked for Justice Callinan, John Howard in the No republic referendum campaign, later advised Tony Abbott on workplace relations & Phil Ruddock as A-G.

That being said, he hasn’t impressed since entering parliament.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 11:40 am

What’s the validity of Thutmose being Moses, or is this poorly pieced together amateur crud that rigorous researchers know is invalid (and can prove)?

Wut? Dot, I’ve posted on this before, you don’t remember?

Thutmose is Amenhotep III’s eldest son. He is in the record with several archaeological inscriptions and sites. Akhenaten, or Amenhotep IV as he was then known, was Amenhotep’s second son. He got the gong after Thutmose, the heir, was suddenly no long around. Maybe he should’ve learned to swim.

Akhenaten changed his name from Amenhotep after he instituted monotheism.

After Akhenaten died his son Tutankhaten became pharaoh, but changed his name to Tutankhamun after the priestly class reasserted control. He was a kid who died aged 18, so had no chance to prevent the putsch even if he wanted to.

Moses by inference wasn’t Thutmose, since the latter is recorded to be a son. He might easily’ve been an adopted son of Amenhotep III though, the timeline fits with that.

This is analysis from first principles, ie the actual archaeology, although I’m linking the wikis for convenience.

calli
calli
May 23, 2023 11:41 am

The stories about Jesus’s life recorded in the gospels are certainly heavily embellished with legend and fiction

Really? And yet eye witnesses decided to face horrible deaths rather than recant a word of it.

Heavy embellishment my eye.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 23, 2023 11:41 am

H B Bear says: May 23, 2023 at 10:47 am

I believe they are building the pyre around Mr Simpson as we speak.

The schtick is wearing a bit thin. I’m not sure he is the real problem but hey … it won’t hurt.

Yeah, the flames won’t hurt you, but advocating for witch hunts is hardly a sustainable plan, Humphrey, no matter how high the TV ratings. Perhaps you’d rather the whole team be sent into the Colosseum and form next season’s squad from the survivors?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 23, 2023 11:43 am

Calli evangelised:

And yet eye witnesses decided to face horrible deaths rather than recant a word of it.

The problem with eye witnesses is that, unless you’re still actually talking to them now, you really have word-of-mouth.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 11:46 am

One of the big issues is, whatever you do, sooner or later you end up in management. People, risk, finance … . That was the basis for the MBA (which remains legitimate if done properly). The guys on the tools think Head Office doesn’t do much, yet expect to get paid every fortnight.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 11:46 am

From a legal, and especially an administrative and IR law perspective, it gets pretty complex, pretty quickly.

Yes, as I said, as a society we’ve chosen to go the bureaucratic route with police chiefs.

The roles of leading the police and the administrative/legal stuff could have been separated.

The same mistake was made in the churches, where the bishop is meant to be a ‘spiritual father’ to the clergy, but can also wield the power of canon law against them.

It leads to a lack of trust & demoralisation, which certainly appears to be a problem for police atm.

calli
calli
May 23, 2023 11:48 am

Well gee, got me there Crispin.

You missed the second bit. Anyone can write down a lie. Anyone can repeat a lie. It’s very, very rare that many, many people will die for what they know is a lie.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 23, 2023 11:48 am

The point of view of the creators of Succession on the leftie madness in the media during the 2016 election is, as we might expect, somewhat sympathetic to the left side. That said, it’s a realistic enough portrayal of how most (though not all) working within the Roy (read Fox) network that night were responding to the unexpected Trump win. They don’t introduce a Hillary element into the show at all either. Too difficult for half of the Succession audience, I expect, though the other half would have enjoyed seeing her shot down again.

As we are now seeing, Fox is and has always been a haven for left media personnel behind the scenes.
They’ve now introduced a policy of toilets for whatever gender you think yourself to be at the time of heeding’s nature’s call, no matter with what equipment such a call has been delivered to you.

Robert Sewell
May 23, 2023 11:50 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 11:52 am

Yeah, the flames won’t hurt you, but advocating for witch hunts is hardly a sustainable plan, Humphrey …

After whatever it is, 8 or 10 years, he may be coming up with great ideas I have no idea. I would have to be convinced. Managing a football club is tough. But it doesn’t stop everyone from thinking they could do it.

Roger
Roger
May 23, 2023 11:53 am

What’s the validity of Thutmose being Moses, or is this poorly pieced together amateur crud that rigorous researchers know is invalid (and can prove)?

Dot, look up Kenneth Kitchen and chase down his On the Reliability of the Old Testament (2003), if you are interested. He is an archaeologist and Egyptologist as well as well as a recognised OT scholar.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 11:57 am

Yes, as I said, as a society we’ve chosen to go the bureaucratic route with police chiefs.

I’m not sure there is any real alternative. The WAPol Commissioner does a regular radio segment on the ALPBC morning radio show and it is clear all these various matters feature heavily in his thinking.

Chris
Chris
May 23, 2023 11:58 am

Heavy embellishment my eye.

Embellishment seems an acceptable term to me; heavy embellishment is not.
As Christian myself, I still doubt the literally true event that at Jesus’ expiry on the Cross, the curtain of the temple was torn from top to bottom, and the dead came out of their tombs and appeared to many. These are massively symbolic, but likely ‘rhetorical statements’ of the impact of the death and resurrection.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 23, 2023 11:59 am

Then, once he was old enough to swing it, he brought monotheism to Egypt for the first time ever, and from out of nowhere archaeology-wise. Never been a hint of that sort of thing hitherto.

Probably a result of a climate catastrophe, Bruce. When the sky goes dark due to a major volcanic explosion the crops fail, there are tsunami floods, and later plagues of insects and disease. The sun god appears either defeated or angered. A cult arising to placate the sun god seems to explain Akhenaten, with the removal of administration to a new centre, signifying a new ritual site. Sunrays predominate in the iconography of Akhenaten.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 23, 2023 12:00 pm

36 minutes ago
Taser case cop suspended with pay

The NSW senior constable who tasered a 95-year-old in an aged care home has been suspended from duty with pay.

Clare Nowland, who suffers from dementia and is currently receiving end of life care, fell and sustained critical head injuries after the officer used a taser on her.

The 33-year-old constable is attached to the Monaro Police District and was one of the officers who responded to the incident where the elderly woman was found holding a knife.

Ms Nowland, who weighs 43 kilograms, was using a walker and approaching officers at a slow pace.

Robert Sewell
May 23, 2023 12:02 pm

Knuckle Dragger:

I don’t care if she went skydiving 15 years beforehand. If you can’t disarm someone almost 100 years old and who cannot stand unassisted, I’m here to say – man or woman – you have no business doing cop stuff.

I wonder if the coppers were wearing stab vests?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 12:03 pm

If you split the role all you would get is a constant chorus of “ We would have much better policing with more money and staff.” Health and the AMA would be the parallel.

dopey
dopey
May 23, 2023 12:04 pm

Stan Grant “please send this support and care to those of my people who feel abandoned and alone…”
It’s always MY people with these types.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 23, 2023 12:05 pm

From what I can see this story is from NSW since the original source appears to be 2GB:

Two Women Are Told They’ve Broken the Law by Criticizing Male Attempting to Breastfeed a Child: Report (22 May)

Two Australian women were reportedly given notices informing them that they committed a crime by criticizing a male, who identifies as a woman, that was trying to breastfeed a baby.

According to the outlet, Twitter contacted the two women — Jasmine Sussex and Leah Whiston — on May 16, notifying them that they had violated Australian law in several of their tweets.

The platform told the two that a “government entity or law enforcement agency” had informed them of their alleged crime, and that the platform had been forced to hide the content from Australian users.

You have to go to the link, then the link to the Daily Mail story to see the mention of 2GB. That suggests NSW plod, or someone, has informed these ladies it’s illegal to say a man can’t breastfeed a baby. Then this lady was fired from the Australian Breastfeeding Association for ‘hate speech’ for using the word “mother”.

I think the science of biology has suffered a fair bit of depreciation lately. It’s a wonder the human race still can breed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 12:08 pm

It’s always MY people with these types.

No greater love than to lay down your ALPBC on-air role for the cause.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 23, 2023 12:10 pm

I get the impression no-one has watched Matthew Goodwin on Conservatism in Britain, nor Succession, on familial conflict and leftist media in the US. So I am probably talking to myself here again.

I have other things to do, in that case. Will call in again later and see if the readership has enlarged.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 23, 2023 12:10 pm

Putting the noblesse into the noble savage.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 23, 2023 12:16 pm

For Spectator readers of Real Life:

Jeremy Clark died on 21st May.

Vale to a brave man with whom many vicariously shared his take on the ups and downs of life.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 23, 2023 12:17 pm

I have just found out on the Speccie site, my alternative to here, and I am deeply saddened.

Vale, Jeremy.

slackster
slackster
May 23, 2023 12:19 pm
calli
calli
May 23, 2023 12:19 pm

Chris says:
May 23, 2023 at 11:58 am

Why would they add a lie to what they knew to be the truth? They knew that lying about anything was a serious, spiritually deadly, offence. The truth was astonishing (and dangerous) enough already.

My only observation on the event was that it actually happened, that a disciple, or several disciples, were there and saw it happen. I have zero doubt that many would have popped up to the temple during the darkness. The rip itself was unthinkable, given that the thing was a handspan in thickness (which probably means it wasn’t woven at all, but its core made from felted wool – we don’t know, so this is idle textile speculation on my part).

We’ll know all about it one day.

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