What would you do Monty if it was one of your children? https://twitter.com/ImtiazMadmood/status/1787810534743490769?t=nWI3NIpI3ahhIfKEr3bqsw&s=19
Open Thread – Weekend 3 June 2023
I enjoy your cafe stories BoN. Keep ’em coming!
Lisa Benson.
Tom Stiglich.
Steve Kelley.
If you can find someone competent to act for you that is an outstanding place to start litigation from.
Those tunnel storing remind me of a couple of my European adventures, one in Perpignan exploring underground Roman warehousing, part of which had been repurposed since medieval times into cellars by various householders much to the annoyance of the current caretakers judging by the comments on site.
And the old lady’s house in Naples, *they have a special name because they lack windows), build into the old Greco-Roman amphitheatre, a n oddly shaped door under her roll back bed took you into very extensive cellarage, all part of the original theatre.
She ate three million AUD worth of $50 polymer notes?
Anyway, according to Twitter, Gender Dysphoria is vanishingly rare, as is intersex, and the vast majority of Trannies are men who are attracted to Straight acting men.
Since men are generally attracted to secondary female sexual characteristics [T&A], these blokes do what’s necessary to achieve their aims.
So yeah, they’ve been using the Ladies when out in public, forever, with no problems caused, so what’s Moira Deeming’s problem?
Drive up the price, force ppl to eat bugs
Elon Musk Weeds Out Remaining Woke Twitter Employees With Avocado Toast Trap
SAN FRANCISCO, CA — After suspicions arose from users over lingering bias and political suppression, owner/billionaire/inventor Elon Musk immediately set out to find the responsible employees by building an elaborate trap baited with avocado toast.
“I hear woke millennials just can’t resist avocado toast,” Musk was heard murmuring as he constructed the complex apparatus of the trap. “My vast knowledge of industry and technology has taught me that if I’m ever going to root out the source of censorship at Twitter, this is how I must do it.”
Groogs. Back to trusted bloggers and Kangaroo Court. Twitter rots your brain like a tooth left in a glass of Coke.
Biden’s Green Rules Mean Appliances Will Soon Cost More And Do Less, Experts Say
A pledge by the Biden administration in December 2022 to take “more than 100 actions” to impose significantly tighter environmental standards on consumer goods is now becoming reality, and consumer groups are predicting a future in which Americans pay more for products that do less, while manufacturers warn of shortages and supply chain breakdowns.
her mum says she lost a lot of weight. Which is it ?
Wadeye was created in the middle of nowhere to give local Aboriginals a ‘better’ life. Now there’s 22 clans at war in the township – and there’s no end in sight to the brutal violence
Remote Northern Territory township has been torched as rival clans clash
Savage gangs arms with machetes, axes and hammers roam the local streets
One man died after being speared in head and another shot by a bow and arrow
Hundreds are now hiding out in the bush after being burned out of their homes
Town home to heavy metal gangs Megadeath Mob, Slayer Boys, Kylie Girls
“The Daily wire doco by Matt Walsh “What is a Woman””
What is amazing about this doco is that the left have a hyuuuge dummy spit about it – yet Matt gives them every opportunity to explain themselves. Needless to say, they cannot. They blame Matt because of their lack.
The looks on the faces of the African tribal people in the face of the left’s “ideas” on gender is priceless.
Julie Bishop was mentioned in the article earlier. I wonder what face she had for the Higgins brouhaha, Telegraph:
Gawd almighty
Dot – No, but as a kid me and my friends used to love to dig in the scrub forest patch on the other side of our street. We were about 10 or 11. Lots of moled out cubby houses, some with surface level attics, roofed with bits of corrugated iron and timber which we’d find. Many hours of fun!
I suppose some guys never grow out of that phase of life, like that guy. Although to be fair I still love underground mines. On such things here’s another recent story:
Bizarre house goes up for sale with four bedrooms, a bathroom, and Tudor era escape tunnel (21 May)
As an even younger kid I loved Enid Blyton stories which were full of hidden tunnels, secret passageways and such like.
??? Yes it does. It works better for us because our policies actually work. The left – when they’re in power – require continued scapegoats for the fact that their policies always make things worse. They *need* enemies to exist. If they don’t, they have to create them.
The right doesn’t need any enemies at all because our policies always work. If the left ceases to exist (or at least shuts its mouth) then civilisation continues just fine.
Of course they don’t. That’s the whole point. That’s why instead of calling the left “hypocrites” in the vain hope that they will start playing by their own rules, we just play to win.
Just like them.
Please keep up.
FMD. Everything you say is complete nonsense.
What’s demoralising for people on the Right is knowing that if we drink a $500 bottle of wine, every right winger will call for us to be punished severely. OTOH if a leftist politician rapes and murders children, every single leftist will provide full support and cover – they’ll say it was fine “because Trump and Murdoch”.
Canberra Hospital Part II
Health is a Bottomless Moneypit
One of the first things that struck me was that there were boxes of supplies everywhere – in corridors, piled up in corners, shoved under desks and counters. The lack of order and method meant that management could have no idea of how much, or what, they had on hand at any time. And, of course, the opportunities for theft were endless.
There was zero incentive to use resources prudently compatible with clinical standards. Half used boxes of tissues and wipes were routinely thrown out. Patients got a bottle of water with every meal, and yesterday’s was thrown out, even if it was untouched.
In terms of staffing, while cleaners were nowhere to be seen, the night shift nurses had a card game going every night in the room where medications were kept. There were as many of them as the day shift, even though they had much less to do.
What should have been a two day stay for me stretched to five because of inadequate hours allocated to orthopedic surgery theatre, according to the doctors there. I had my surgery cancelled in the late afternoon twice before finally getting treated on the third day. By the time they treated the emergency patients, time was up.
This meant that not only did I occupy a bed someone else could have used, it added thousands of dollars to the cost of my stay.
There were numerous other things that would make anyone who has ever run a business squirm, but you get the drift.
The top heavy management structure does not include anyone who actually manages. Nobody is walking around to make sure that the place is clean, or keeping track of supplies, or watching workloads and productivity. Instead, they sit in their offices and generate endless, useless reports.
It is impossible to control the budget in a setup like that.
Hmm
Specifically, in the ACT Jury Act, modelled off the old NSW Act most probably.
8 Reduced number of jurors
(1) If the judge is satisfied that, because of illness or other sufficient cause, a juror should not continue to act as a juror, the judge may order that the juror be excused from further attendance during the trial and during any further period that the judge specifies in the order.
There was no need to order a mistrial. This is a normal procedure in NSW to excuse an individual misconducting juror and would qualify under examples in case law.
Non-binary ex-Biden official Sam Brinton arrested for yet another baggage theft
Brinton is being charged with grand larceny in third airport baggage theft case
From Zipster’s link.
Their response is to say “well kids can’t get bottom surgery and even in the extreme circumstances where they can, it’s with thousands of hours of counselling and every living relative has to consent so there’s nothing for you to complain about”.
They then turn around and lobby for governments to change the rules so that kids can get bottom surgery without any counselling and parental consent.
Of course, they say nothing about top surgery which is done on minors. And even ignoring the issue of being a minor, these surgeries are horrific. Any doctor who performs one is no different to cutting off someone’s arm or foot because of a fetish. 15 years or 50, it is a violation of the Hippocratic Oath.
What possible explanation could there be for her claiming to be schoolies level shiffaced?
1. She “loaded up” on shots immediately before leaving 88 mph bar and they hadn’t taken effect by the time they reached Parliament House? However, the CCTV evidence from the bar doesn’t show this. Also, the elapsed time from leaving 88 mph to the last CCTV in the corridor at PH is just under seventeen minutes. Anyone who loaded up at 88 mph would be starting to show signs of drunkenness by then.
2. She got stuck into a high volume and/or an unfamiliar tipple in the minister’s office either in the company of BL or not. This might explain the later regurgitation of the Cadbury Favourites onto the ministerial flokati shag rug.
3. She was only moderately pissed and the “schoolies level hammered” affords a convenient cover for hazy memories* and lack of resistance.
….
* Amazing. She is crystal clear about “he was on top ‘o me” but conveniently vague about every other detail. We call that “going the full Witness J”.
2 years later she’s put on a fair bit of weight and she’s severely depressed.
I wonder what happened
Binging on mutton?
Gypsum overdose?
Captain Detmers and the whiiiiite suuuub force feeding her bon bons?
Kathleen Folbigg.
Media narrative – unjust, could happen to any mother and just extremely bad luck.
It is impossible to control the budget in a setup like that.
…
The top heavy management structure does not include anyone who actually manages.
Thats a feature not a bug for the bugmen in charge.
“Never apologise, never back down, never criticise allies (except for being too moderate), always combat criticism of yourself with attacks on your opponents.”
And most importantly, change the narrative to one that better suits your side.
Roy Higgins.
The Professor.
Hmm, seems familiar. I feel a song coming on.
Fits awesomely. 😀
Ed Casesays:
June 5, 2023 at 10:51 am
“Did you kiss her?,’’ he was asked.
“No,’’ he replied.
Independent witnesses gave statements to the contrary.
Channel 7 have already pissed a fortune up against the wall over Ben Roberts-Smith, are they going for 2 in a row with Lehrmann?
Then there’s the 24/7 attacks on John Pesutto for not being a total bigot.
It doesn’t make any sense, unless …
Grandpa Cletus desperately trying to salvage something, anything, from the wreckage.
The question was did he kiss her, not did she get all handsy and then try to give him a kiss.
A career book-ended by Lara Bingle and Laura Tingle.
Sad.
Ed Casesays:
June 5, 2023 at 11:16 am
Never apologise, never back down, never criticise allies (except for being too moderate), always combat criticism of yourself with attacks on your opponents.
In other words,
Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals
Problem is that it doesn’t work the other way around.
Laborites laugh off appeals from Liberals to live up to their own rules, because they don’t believe in those rules anyway.
Plus, it’s demoralising for Liberal supporters.
Grandpa Ed Simpson still shilling for Labor, pushing for the Libs to ignore effective tactics.
Ain’t Misbehavin’
Ed Casesays:
June 5, 2023 at 11:31 am
The pics of Brittany Higgins on 22/3/2019 show a vivacious young woman.
2 years later she’s put on a fair bit of weight and she’s severely depressed.
I wonder what happened [not really, it’s obvious what happened, unless you’ve got your head up your arse]?
Trying and failing to push for a career boost can cause that.
Unless you’ve got your head up your arse.
Bear at 11:08.
John Prosciutto.
Gets very animated when sticking the boots into Moira Deeming.
But his critiques of Stairman Dan are delivered with all the conviction of an NRL apology on a Monday morning.
Grandpa Cletus
So yeah, they’ve been using the Ladies when out in public, forever, with no problems caused, so what’s Moira Deeming’s problem?
The ladies don’t want to be “used” in their private dressing rooms and toilets? Anyone without their head stuck up their arse would be able to work this out.
Bingle Tingle Walla walla bing bang
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QZNYyrbACLs
Pesutto had to get his house in order and he did so.
By the time the next Election arrives, Andrews will be long gone, Moira Deeming will be packing her office up and Pesutto will be in the catbird seat.
Mmmyes.
One ‘witness’.
A Ms Gains.
Ms Gains claimed to have seen them snogging in one of the bars.
Interesting that she was called as a witness in the trial but wasn’t asked about that.
Why?
Well, by this time the CCTV (which covers every square inch of both premises) showed nothing of the sort, so Dumgold wouldn’t ask about it.
Whybrow would leave that sleeping dog lie if the prosecution didn’t push it, because Gains was a peripheral witness who added nothing either way.
Gains was simply a ‘colour and movement’ smear witness used by Sam Maiden, and was careful to add a “very pissed, hazy memory” disclaimer.
So.
“I saw it. But very pissed so maybe I didn’t.”
Well spotted< Black Ball, and typical Hunchback stuff. Free hits for junkies brought to you, but if a family of mere suburban breeders struggling to pay the mortgage have three kids who get conjunctivitis they will be $240 out of pocket with doctors' fees and prescription cots.
She looks great! Girl Power on heels.
With Kochie out of the way, Nat turns up the heat on Plibbers. Cash Cow is next with Katy Gallagher in his sights.
Did Ms Plibersek’s sympathy and concern extend, I wonder, to the victims of Labor harassers she and Leigh Sales briefly mentioned (no names, of course) during the election-night TV coverage?
The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people.
– Martin Luther King, Jr.
Looks like she is managing to keep the Cadbury Favourites down these days.
All fun and games till you end up in District Court.
Speaking of Canberra hospitals, have just returned this morning from my second elective eye surgery – but at Canberra Private.
Immaculate in every way; professional, courteous and friendly staff, and hopefully when the patch comes off later today I will be on the road – takes about a week to become perfect – of never needing the reading glasses again.
Any mention of her being the Australian board chair of Greensill’s Bank, the spectacular failure run by Jugears 2.0 from Queensssland?
Drunk witnesses are a problem (take notes Groogs legal war story coming up). Early in my pleasingly short career, we were at home enjoying a few quiet black Sambuccas when 6 patrol cars arrived …
Keith Richards always reminds me of a battleship who has sailed through all the guns of the enemy, shrouded in smoke and stained with fire-blackened scars. His wife, who I’ve never read about before, is the next battlewagon to emerge from the smoke behind the flagship:
‘Anita’ Review: Anita Pallenberg Gets Her Own Documentary, and It’s One of the Darkest Portraits of the Rock World (30 May, via Instapundit)
Looks fascinating, especially for rock Cats. How can you do what they did to their own bodies yet survive to a good old age? Especially Mr Richards who is still doing gigs. A tribute to how amazingly tough the construction of homo sapiens is.
(No Tomatometer scores yet, too new.)
Even by ex-Lieboral standards that was a big one. Leaves Stan Howard in the shade.
“Any mention of her being the Australian board chair of Greensill’s Bank…”
But, but, but…
Sancho my good man, wasn’t she compassionate?
Didn’t and doesn’t she support the current thing?
Doesn’t she deserve a sinecure for all her years of hardship, selflessly serving the public?
How dare you.
HOW DARE YOU.
Anyway, enough of Lehrmann.
Moving down the Ls, we find Jerry Lewis.
I’ll be you didn’t know this, Sancho:
Back in the early 50s, Lewis invited Carl Reiner and the other writers up to his place for Reiner’s birthday.
The group knocked and entered, the room was dark, except for a nude Jerry on the couch preparing to light the candle sticking out of his erect weenie.
He was singing Happy Birthday at the time.
Ever done anything like that, Sancho?
That was probably a cheap shot. Easy to get enmeshed in scrapes trying to fix other people’s messes.
Good to know the CPSU thinks the government takeover of Calvary is a good thing for administrative staff, free pay rises all round.
You must have been absolutely pasted by then. LOL.
Groogs, are you still traumatised from that birthday when Mother popped out of the cake and the other kids teased you?
Old Leftysays:
June 5, 2023 at 12:36 pm
Well spotted< Black Ball, and typical Hunchback stuff. Free hits for junkies brought to you, but if a family of mere suburban breeders struggling to pay the mortgage have three kids who get conjunctivitis they will be $240 out of pocket with doctors' fees and prescription cots.
Once again, society bears the cost and responsibility of drug users own choices. And potentially some innocent family pays the ultimate price when these selfish a-holes decide to get behind the wheel of a car.
It was in issue as I recall.
It wasn’t Mother. Well, apart from her skin.
Wow, the slope poke is trying to sound creative.
I dunno, call me a 59’s type hubbie with absolutely zero interest in girlie type machines for the home.
However, a 50s style dad would certainly prevent a kid from mutilating herself or at the very least there would be some introspection involved. A 50s dad wouldn’t be going around writing woe-is -me columns and blaming university tutors about what just happened.
What are your thoughts on that, trans?
Reports which will feature in the agendas of the endless cycle of useless meetings.
I remember how difficult it was to find funds for that constant trotting off to the doctor’s with sick infants in the late eighties.
You got to wait an hour or two and you didn’t pass go without forking out between $30 and $50 each visit.
Very glad to see our first bulk bill practice, where the young Chinese doctor was the only one of several I’d seen to correctly diagnose my four year’s whooping cough, Dr $50 had it down as asthma.
Abbott’s extraordinarily modest $7 copayment proposal was shot down in flames by the usual suspects and as pointed upthread now families are forking out up to $75 per to see a GP.
Add in mortgage, food, energy it’s a working family crisis.
(I still have 9 to 5 access to a bulk bill clinic, lucky me).
Queensland hospitals are for Queenslanders (paywalled)
Dot at 11:53.
Yes, but that option would leave them with an 11-0 vote to acquit, which just wouldn’t do.
The plan was to declare a mis-trial, then follow the Pell template. That is, no awkward second trial questioning for Britnah. A neatly edited video of her first trial Q&A taking out “superfluous material” (i.e. when she descends into tears after Whybrow asks her about lying).
This is why Dumgold is desparate for everyone to believe they were on the brink of conviction. No way does he want the juror # 12 sabotage to come to light.
One of the first users of the safe injecting room in Sydney was supposed to have injected himself, and lit a cigarette. He was reminded that “this is a non smoking area.”
Dot, earlier:
The entire basis of a rape case. Marvellous.
Ed Casesays:
June 5, 2023 at 12:55 pm
Anyway, enough of Lehrmann.
Looks like Grandpa Cletus has finally accepted that Mizzz Knickerless might not have a winning story.
Back in the early 50s, Grigglebot invited a German and the other backpackers down to his cellar for his birthday.
The group knocked and entered, the room was dark, except for a nude mummie bursting out of the well preparing to extinguish the candle sticking out of xirs erect weenie.
Xir was singing Happy Birthday at the time.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x31nwyw
Even as a greying grandmother, Brittany Higgins will probably still be reminded of her lack of knickers…
Keep yourselves tidy ladies.
“Ever done anything like that, Sancho?”
Well… this one time – at band camp -…
To be fair, having now seen the CCTV, it might be better to say Miss Higgins was underwearless, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Wasn’t she on some sort of girl power online date, but the fellow left after some mocking from her co-workers?
KD – that was a mate from the pub. Abandoned pretty early on as it didn’t suit either side’s narrative.
Best advice is never let your mates know if you’re on a date. Invite them to the wedding if it simply can’t be avoided.
The (just seen) video is pretty revealing.
Many here, as parents, will have some practical experience of young women under the influence of alcohol – usually cleaning up, or looking after the wreckage.
Brinny is clearly not shitfaced on the way in – sure, problem with the high heels, but not staggering drunk.
She may have preloaded before leaving the bar – leaving the question of dwell. But experience shows that even larger sized girls go downhill in minutes after a big nip.
She might have been chugging in the taxi, but she doesn’t say so.
Lehrmann may have forced drink on her once in the office – but she doesn’t say that either.
So the ‘pissed as a Schoolie’ and ‘comatose and unable to consent/resist a few minutes later’ arguments attract a fair degree of reasonable doubt.
Here we have the sort of tripe presented as ‘racism” by the Victorian bash whitey commission.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2023/jun/05/pregnant-aboriginal-women-are-living-in-fear-due-to-victorias-unborn-child-protection-notifications
This is a textbook case of social workers/police and support agencies doing what they should do to protect a potentially vulnerable kid & mum.
A notification made.
There had been an altercation with her partner at the time and neighbours had called police about a noise disturbance. Melissa was asked by police if she had been drinking. She said she hadn’t because she was pregnant.
Yet, in the officers’ eyes, this incident was enough to justify an unborn notification being made.
Yet further down the “noise disturbance is elaborated on a little more.
to explain that she had support, that she wasn’t living with her former partner anymore and wasn’t at risk of family violence.
Anyone want to bet the noise disturbance might have been a smidgen more than the activist is presenting it as??
…..
Legislation prevents child protection workers investigating or substantiating the alleged risk to the baby while it is still in utero, so the notification stays there until birth.
Most expectant mothers aren’t told about a notification; for the final eight-and-a-half months of Melissa’s pregnancy, it was never mentioned to her.
Then, once her baby was born, and before her family had arrived, child protection workers turned up at the hospital to consider removing the child.
So they followed up on a notification, then investigated and….
Melissa was allowed to take her baby home.
…
So the system worked as it was meant to, a mother to be was originaly highlighted as possibly having an environment leading to a bub being at risk. Later when bub born her circumstances had changed and bub was assessed as being at minimal risk.
….
Hundreds of unborn notifications are made against Aboriginal mothers in Victoria each year, of which at least one in five result in the child being removed before they are three months old.
The rates of SUBSTANTIATED reports requiring kid removal/interventions is roughly the same as for non Abbo parents.
The difference is in the sheer numbers being reported.
…
And overall the figures for Aboriginals abusing or providing unsafe living for their own kids is just disgusting.
Right now, about one in 10 Aboriginal children have been removed from their families and are living in state care, while about a quarter have been subject to a child protection report of some kind.
….
In evidence to Yoorrook, the Victorian government acknowledged that over half of all child protection notifications made against Aboriginal families were unsubstantiated, and that racism was a contributing factor.
The pipeline between child protection and the criminal justice system is well-established. Three-quarters of all Aboriginal young people aged 10 to 13 in the youth justice system have been in contact with child protection previously.
The reality for many Aboriginal babies subject to child protection notifications is that the state has already set them on a conveyor belt, stopping first in the child protection system before moving on to criminal offending.
Hands up anyone who thinks the end of this “inquiry” will improve the outcomes for kids involved if its spastic recommendations are followed??
Shark officially jumped.
Get your motor running: Former VP Pence rides a Harley to a showcase of Republican 2024 runners as he teases Wednesday campaign launch (3 Jun)
You can’t fake cool no matter how many hogs you ride on son. And betraying your voters, and your boss, tends not to go down well, btw.
“You can’t fake cool no matter how many hogs you ride on son. “
Not to mention HD’s work with Bud Lite…
Apologies, Cats.
The name I thought I heard in the wee hours (oh dear) was not Brittany Higgins but Brittany Keegans. It’s she whose mother went missing.
For shame, don’t you know that it’s all “inter-generational trauma” and the effects of “colonization.”
And betraying your voters, and your boss, tends not to go down well, btw.
Hogwash.
Trump is a sore loser, Mike Pence wasn’t going to encourage him.
Whaddabou’ vote stealin’, I hear you whine?
How do you think Trump won in 2016, it wasn’t on the level, that’s for sure.
As a matter of fact, the John Kerry steal in 2004 was even more blatant, Kerry just conceded on the Wednesday and got on with his life.
I’d say Pence could be a dark horse, if he can find the Donors.
I think your horns are fake
I’m almost in agreement with Dover on the source of morality. It comes from the moral sensibility that human beings are born with. Like the sense of humour, or as Calli points out, the aesthetic sense. Some music is better than others, some jokes are funnier than others, and some acts are morally better than others. There doesn’t have to be universal agreement about the details, because different people have different stages of development. All are shaped by culture insofar as different cultures will enable that development to different degrees.
We differ on the ultimate cause. I go with evolution and don’t believe God is necessary.
Ed – Tell me all about Hammer and Scorecard. I’ll wait until you get back to me.
Kanekoa Releases The Konnech Files: FBI Shielded Two Firms Tied to Chinese Communist Regime That Holds US Voter Data in Mainland China (4 Jun)
We’ve known about this sort of thing since a couple days after the 2020 election. But it is a very dangerous place to go, as Fox recently found.
Missing the point.
The core business of running a hospital is to make sure the frunnline wukkas are looked after.
Patients are often an unwanted encumberance on this important funtion.
What’s goin’ on?
Did someone put their arm in the way of a post-rammer, or get too close to a PTO shaft wearing loose clothing, or maybe left the guard off the meat slicer?
What?
Did I miss something?
Yours most certainly aren’t.
Everyone has tied a candle to their dick at least once.
But those who don’t choose waxless candles never do it again.
But I will concede that a Christian culture, particularly one including this blogsite, does more to develop a moral sensibility (and an appreciation of paintings) than most of the alternatives.
Well done, Johanna.
If you were a management consultant, I’d reckon you could sell an expanded version of your 11.53am post to the clowns who run Canberra Hospital for north of $50K — and it could be immediately added to their bottom line.
Ask Kamala Harris.
Dr F at 1:37
Covered off earlier.
The bar (88 mph) had 100% CCTV coverage and this doesn’t show any last minute loading, or any suggestion of spiking.
Nearly seventeen minutes elapse between them leaving the bar and the last CCTV vision before they enter the office, so any loading/spiking would be starting to show up by then.
No-one suggests that happened.
Or she may have raided the ministerial West Coast Cooler stash without Bruce’s help or encouragement.
Yes, Minister
One of the downsides to growing up in the 80s. There were very few situations aided by adding a few West Coast Coolers into the mix.
Anyone else hear or feel a loud sonic boom about 1:45 this arvo?
Heard simultaneously at two places 60 km. apart in NW NSW.
“We differ on the ultimate cause. I go with evolution and don’t believe God is necessary.”
One does not preclude the other, IMO – there is no reason God could not have created the universe with some very simple rules, and while knowing that complex creatures such as men would result, not knowing (or perhaps not caring to exert sufficiently to “know”, or deciding NOT to know!) the exact details. Much like “The game of Life” or “SimCity” etc – the rules are straightforward, but the complexity of the interactions often producing surprising results, even for those who decided on the rules.
Indeed, one could argue that “free will” is exactly the sort the thing that Gods actually wanted – even He doesn’t know exactly how you’ll react until it is before you! (perhaps because He doesn’t want to know, enjoying the discovery instead) What better “game” for the omnipotent than something that produces surprises.
Of course, this is along the same line as sentient aliens – if man was made in God’s image, how many images do you think He made?
West Coast Cooler?
Do the diabolical propensities of this appalling woman know no end?
I chatted during the weekend with a young Colonel; not infantry.
I hedged around the war crimes and the increasing ctitique of ADF senior leadership.
He didn’t. He claimed that the ADF was in the hands of a clique of self serving cronies whose focus is exclusively personal and who collectively prevent any questioning of contemporary ADF culture which they fashioned.
In his view, the majority of ADF problems stem from ADFA. (He was an ADFA graduate). Cliques, culture and hierarchies form at ADFA and continue in perpetuity.
In his view, ADFA must be shut down and true diversity of background implemented.
His Dad who is an ex-ADF senior officer and a traditionalist surprised me by saying that he believed that his son is correct. He added his views on the culpability of a series of disinterested Defence Ministers.
Hunter, Kamala, and Joe.
Smack, Cackle, and Drop.
West Coast Cooler – probably falls just short of a crime against humanity. Hopefully the people responsible for it are being eaten by their cats today.
True.
Cool, keep us updated.
Makes me feel positively… interventionist.
Is it purely coincidence that we have one conversation upon the source of morality and at the same time another about West Coast Cooler?
Questions of ‘good’ and ‘evil’, and West Coast Cooler, would seem to be inextricably intertwined.
Total mystery why they’re called the SFL party.
Re Kathleen Folbigg and her (today) unconditional pardon;
Last year in the Daily Telegraph, this is the NSW Attorney-General: (trimmed for blog brevity)
It would be undermining confidence in the judicial process and the justice system … no matter how compelling … the evidence is
Anyone know where Lidia Thorpe is today?
She has a very fulminous temperament connected to a hair-trigger for taking offence.
I’ve got more confidence in the system now it can right wrongs.
Speakman is an insufferable anti-citizen authoritarian.
If you can let me know where to get some of this concoction, I would be very grateful. Keeping a date’s glass topped with WCC is just courtesy, as is taking care of her when her attentions to one’s office furniture take a turn for the hydraulic.
My lips are sealed. I wish my nose had been, too.
One of those social evils – like double breasted jackets, suttee, or cherry cola – that you hoped humanity had moved on from.
You can never let your guard down. The examples you give were already a bad idea when they were implemented the first time. Merely being a bad idea will not prevent them being visited upon us once more.
If you can let me know where to get some of this concoction, I would be very grateful. Keeping a date’s glass topped with WCC is just courtesy, as is taking care of her when her attentions to one’s office furniture take a turn for the hydraulic.
My lips are sealed. I wish my nose had been, too.
If only she was partial to Cold Duck, you may have been in with a chance.
‘It would be undermining confidence in the judicial process and the justice system … no matter how compelling … the evidence is,’ Mr Speakman said.
What!? I don’t know about the Kathleen Folbigg case specifically but as a more generalised comment; if there has been some miscarriage of justice and the person is ether innocent or their conviction is based on dubious ‘evidence’, then they must be released.
I would have far more confidence in the judicial process knowing that errors will be promptly corrected. Sometimes, sh!t happens for all kinds of reasons, but as soon as that is discovered, it must be corrected. We will deal with the fallout later – but the person must be released without delay.
Fret not.
Reader, I married her.
The issue of consent. It’s a handy backup, but not so great if film emerges of you being well in control.
Anyway, enough of Lehrmann.
Moving down the Ls, we find Jerry Lewis.
“Mmmyes, not going the way I want so after many months of wrongology, I will change tack…”
I’d be happy to bulk up and sulk for 2 years if there was a hefty payout at the end.
I may have done it for free from 2018-22.
Ed Casesays:
June 5, 2023 at 1:59 pm
And betraying your voters, and your boss, tends not to go down well, btw.
Hogwash.
Trump is a sore loser, Mike Pence wasn’t going to encourage him.
Whaddabou’ vote stealin’, I hear you whine?
Grandpa Cletus has definitely moved on from Mizzzz Knickerless.
Sancho Panzersays:
June 5, 2023 at 2:16 pm
The top heavy management structure does not include anyone who actually manages. Nobody is walking around to make sure that the place is clean, or keeping track of supplies, or watching workloads and productivity. Instead, they sit in their offices and generate endless, useless reports.
Missing the point.
The core business of running a hospital is to make sure the frunnline wukkas are looked after.
Patients are often an unwanted encumberance on this important funtion.
See also that wonderful documentary Yes Prime Minister, which covered this subject very well.
Psays:
June 5, 2023 at 2:34 pm
The core business of running a hospital is to make sure the frunnline wukkas are looked after.
Patients are often an unwanted encumberance on this important funtion.
Yes, Minister
Snap!
bonssays:
June 5, 2023 at 2:45 pm
I chatted during the weekend with a young Colonel; not infantry.
I hedged around the war crimes and the increasing ctitique of ADF senior leadership.
He didn’t. He claimed that the ADF was in the hands of a clique of self serving cronies whose focus is exclusively personal and who collectively prevent any questioning of contemporary ADF culture which they fashioned.
In his view, the majority of ADF problems stem from ADFA. (He was an ADFA graduate). Cliques, culture and hierarchies form at ADFA and continue in perpetuity.
In his view, ADFA must be shut down and true diversity of background implemented.
His Dad who is an ex-ADF senior officer and a traditionalist surprised me by saying that he believed that his son is correct. He added his views on the culpability of a series of disinterested Defence Ministers.
At least some hope remains.
Recall the uncomplimentary Parliamentary Committee report in the 1990s, which described ADFA as a “military nunnery”, and recommended radical changes. Quickly stamped on by the ADF hierarchy, some of whom had been deeply involved in its establishment.
Canberra. Preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesent.
The full judgment of Ben Roberts-Smith’s defamation case has just been released. You can read it here – 736 pages long.
PS, even at the time, there were ADF officers (generally around the LTCOL (E)/COL (E) level who were unhappy with it. The location just over the hill from Duntroon did not help. It has since followed the course of most Australian universities into rampant political correctness/wokeism.
One suggestion was to revert to the old system, and re-use the facilities for senior officer education, but a new “campus” was later built at Weston Creek for that. Maybe the senior-sirs preferred to be less accessible?
The problem re evolution as ground of morality or truth is that its processes don’t operate at that level.
Sure, but if men are rational animals, they are obliged to care and to learn these things. Of course, deciding not to know would be a privation of the good, and thus evil.
Justice Besanko has today released more of his reasoning for his judgement in the defamation BRS case.
There was “no evidence of a plausible motive to lie or collusion” between the witnesses, Besanko said, and they “were independent, had no interest in the result and were aware of the significance of giving evidence. Furthermore, they were in a position to observe the events about which they gave evidence.”
On the other hand, Roberts-Smith “has motives to lie, being a financial motive to support his claim for damages in these proceedings, a motive to restore his reputation which he contends has been destroyed by the publication of the articles and significantly, a motive to resist findings against him which may affect whether further action is taken against him”.
Can’t say as I am impressed. Over the years since these accusations came to light (2018, I believe) I have read quite a bit about the circumstances of the matters. We know, for instance, that there was a significant amount of rivalry (involving animosity) between the special forces groups – the SASR & the Commandos. Besanko has not referred to this or defined the sympathies or origin of the specific witnesses.
Further, I was a bit surprised at the severity of Besanko’s implication of the motives for BRS to lie. After all, defamation proceedings are routinely brought because the alleged victim has suffered considerable harm.
there is no reason God could not have created the universe with some very simple rules, and while knowing that complex creatures such as men would result, not knowing (or perhaps not caring to exert sufficiently to “know”, or deciding NOT to know!) the exact details.
For me, the most beautiful explanation of our creation is that of the German metaphysical poet Rilke:
“We are here, so that God can know himself in you”
Thank you Indolent for this excellent article.
MT.
It says a great deal about you that you were willing to put yourself out there to warn others that this gender reassignment ideology isn’t just media speculation or click bait, but real shit affecting people.
Good on you man.
Other than being possible Taliban paid maintenance by the civil defendants to themselves and their entire (rather large) nuclear families, as well as the possible compensation to Bibi Jan, no there’s no motive there at all.
Breathtaking naïveté.
Let’s note the operative part of the statement.
no evidence of a plausible motive to lie
It is inconceivable that they even had a motive to lie.
Unbelievable.
It would be undermining confidence in the judicial process and the justice system … no matter how compelling … the evidence is
So hes resorting to justice by “the vibe”.
Ive been keeping 1/2 an eye on the case, I find the genetic argument unpersuasive myself, but it was accepted as bringing in enough doubt to make all 4 convictions unsafe.
If there is no conviction (and there no longer is) then shes to be considered innocent unless a new prosecution is successfully launched.
it probably doesnt help shes a bit fruity (possibly because she lost 4 kids)and has the whole “Lindy Chamberlin” unsympathetic accused thing going on as well.
She either receives a payout for wrongful imprisonment, or shes retried and found guilty, any thing else is compounding injustice.
Those of you who thought you could fit a little beach and sun in around the Prof van Wrongselen trial are going to be disappointed. Teh Paywallian are reporting he has got an expedited trial set down for 1 day on June 29th. So you should catch the winter sales.
It’s timely to warn folks: get your children and grands the fkn out of these public schools.
And vet any private schools for signs of the sh*t before enrolment.
If you want an animal to live in this corner of the universe with others of the same species, and with a sufficiently complex language, then that corner of the universe will select preferentially those animals which have a moral capacity. They will sanction liars and the immoral because failure to do so will destroy their culture. As we are now seeing.
We are designed by the corner of the universe we live in. A social system may keep reality at bay for a time, but you can’t beat the universe. The laws of nature are not altered for the convenience of man, neither those of the physical world outside our skin, nor those which operate inside us.
Seconded.
Any suggestion that disinterested truth-telling has a nodding acquaintance with any of the cultures of the region, is grounds for snorts of laughter.
The total abrogation of even a scintilla of parental responsibility.
It’s all the school/the ex/the ex’s new boyfriend/the uni friends/yada yada.
You don’t think years of strutting around projecting an attitude of “top dog on the worksite” and “people shit themselves when I walk into the room” and “I am a God Oracle” might … just might … be a contributing factor?
Not to mention talking faux intellectual gibberish in lower case with no punctuation.
Good luck in attracting applicants for Special Air Service Regiment and the Commando’s after this one.
Arkysays:
June 5, 2023 at 3:53 pm
It’s timely to warn folks: get your children and grands the fkn out of these public schools.
And vet any private schools for signs of the sh*t before enrolment.
Now, now, just because my pre-primary came home with a rainbow shark picture they had been colouring in.
https://gcn.ie/progress-shark-world-pride/
“Sure, but if men are rational animals, they are obliged to care and to learn these things.”
Indeed.
They say “truth wins in the end” and indeed it does – because if you fail to recognise the truth, then you are not acting optimally in terms of survival.
Industrial society has more than a little isolated many from reality – ask them where milk comes from, they are likely to say “the supermarket” rather than “a cow”. This sort of isolation from reality, together with “GovCo will look after me” produces such ridiculousness as “Modern Monetary Theory”, where we can just print more money to pay for things and nothing bad will happen.
There is sufficient wealth to allow this to continue for longer than you might imagine, and this is where we are now – we have over-indulged on debt, and we are not seeing the writing on the wall, or at least, not those who are notionally in charge and should know better. It will bite us sooner or later – hopefully sooner, which won’t cause as much pain, but alas, more likely later when it can no longer be ignored. Privation or war – there is no other way to fix it. And it only takes one side to start a war. China may be going down this path, so we may not have a choice. Hope not, but sure looks that way.
#metoo.
They managed to tenuously hang two off this new-found syndrome.
Three at a stretch.
Number four seems to come free as part of the package.
This is part of a push to enshrine the following in the legal system:-
.1 Wymminses never lie;
.2 Wymminses never commit infanticide;
.3 Wymminses never murder their partners;
.4 When there is irrefutable physical evidence of 2. or 3. it must be unbearable societal pressure or battered wife syndrome respectively.
See also, Kelli Lane.
“She didn’t do it. And if she did, blame her strict religious mother.”
Leadership is back, in his usual happy self. Guiding thought and ideas this site has sorely needed for a very long time.
His leadership ignores the fact that this similarly depressed dipstick has been posting nasty, useless comments about me for the past several days.
If chooses play this way, then the ultimate answer is to respond.
And no, we don’t go around blaming others for travails that occur in families. That’s just pathetic and sad.
I’m not Liz and if he chooses to play this way he’ll get it back in spades.
Pity leadership wasn’t around demonstrating equal outrage at the two year pile-on she received from the likes of Ivan Titsoff.
Our only hope is that the next time the flounce is permanent as the cameos are really getting really monotonous now.
Crybaby
Consider homeschooling or a private tutor; even the elite, C of E grammar schools swallow woke garbage like a foie gras duck.
These people have never grown into adulthood.
Sancho Panzersays:
June 5, 2023 at 4:07 pm
Close to my thinking, but its put up or payout for the justice system in that case.
If your going to accept as evidence a newly spawned ‘syndrome” then I think you are screwed anyway.
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Correct.
There are still some explicitly conservative Catholic and smaller independent Christian schools who have not succumbed, but most of the big main denomination schools have the ideology in their mission statements.
Says the drama queen who goes for the “dago” response when politely asked to refrain from stoopid plussing.
Nice, DrBeauGan.
I like to think that there is an original document from the same hand as the Bible, if what I choose to believe is true; the earth itself.
Sedimentology, palaeontology, chemistry, nuclear physics, biology, genetics; the palimpsest is there to be read and interpreted.
The laws of nature extend into the outcomes of behavior and ethics, as you point out, and the universe itself administers probabilistic punishments for maladaptive behavior. Kipling may be an old imperialist but the ‘gods of the copybook headings’ actually deliver.
Not a jot or tittle passes from that law.
West Coast Coolers and Cold Duck are amateur hour compared to Ben Ean Moselle, a nonpareil leg opener, when only the best would do. The decline of Australian society can be traced to the decline in sales of this liquid aphrodisiac.
calli says:
June 5, 2023 at 3:14 pm
What possible explanation could there be for her claiming to be schoolies level shiffaced?
The issue of consent. It’s a handy backup, but not so great if film emerges of you being well in control.
100%. Well established that a person who is ‘schoolies level shiffaced’ cannot give informed consent. Therefore, anything that is alleged to have happened ‘must be’ sexual assault and drunkenness is a handy foil for fending off uncomfortable questions. (at worse and if the accuser is shown to be a liar, she ‘misremembered’ due to the fog of alcohol.) The women’s brigade love it too because it feeds the stereotype that all men are rogues who will get a woman drunk then have their way with her, by force if necessary. The poor girl was deflowered by a cunning brute.
As you and others have noted, Brittany seems far from schoolies level shiffaced and I will say that my observation of the videos indicates Lehrmann to be more disinterested than interested. Its been a very long time since I’ve ‘followed up’ on a woman after being at the pub but I’m damn sure my hopes/intentions were clear and I certainly wasn’t standing in the background or walking 3 metres in front of her.
As with many Cats, I think the entire episode was an appalling manipulation of the justice system with undoubted political undertones. Not least of which was PM Morrison who apologised (!) to Higgins from the floor of Parliament for ‘what happened to her’. If Lehrmann had any hope of a fair trial, they were hopelessly tainted from the point. And as for the MSM, they could barely disguise their glee whilst trying to solemnly report on the ‘alleged’ assault. Farcical.
Others who thought they could get political or media mileage was in this with their boots on. What a disgrace. And then, to add injury to the insult to our judicial process, Brittany received a payout of some $3m. For what? Nothing had been (and still hasn’t) been proven. Meanwhile, Lehrmann is hounded out of his job, out of Canberra and his name is permanently sullied.
This country is a circus.
And don’t get me started on BRS……
/rant off
LOL. Our multinational employer is v concerned about Greenwashing. Hence we cannot participate in a number of local charities to raise funds and use the company’s name. This has effectively stopped most staff initiatives to run small events like morning teas etc. …except for one today. A few of us donated cakes for a morning tea and raised a few hundred dollars for a charity. The PR manager came down and said it wasn’t really appropriate because of greenwash risk. ‘The meja will have a field day!!!’ The Las running it effectively spat it and told her that was just a load of shyte. LOL. What a shit show. There is general feeling that the company doesn’t care nor give a shit about the community, too busy projecting and protecting itself. Im sure if we had a person of drag read us a story time we would get an ESG tick. Gotta love this woke stuff. Cake anyone?
Skip N’ Go Naked?
“Consider homeschooling or a private tutor; even the elite, C of E grammar schools swallow woke garbage like a foie gras duck.”
There’s a private girl’s school on Sydney’s north shore that currently has quite a few girls “identifying as boys”. I know this because a friend’s daughter is at the school. A lot of this gender gunk is a contagion, particularly among girls, it the 2023 anorexia nervosa for young girls. However, as Sancho said above, you can’t just blame the school, it’s also dysfunctional homes and parenting. Oh and this friend made the mistake of misgendering one of her daughter’s friends, she was asked to apologise and she said NO.
Any case that ‘their ABC’ has stuck its grubby little accusations in should be assumed ‘falsely accused’.
Ben Ean Moselle – when metho and milk are considered putting on airs?
Crybaby status confirmed – also possibly transitioning.
Drink cement.
Well, that’s all right then.
Class action launched against AGL over alleged competition and consumer law breaches
That sounds lovely and definitely elevates Mankind above the dust, but a sovereign God already knows himself. The story of the Bible is that of gradual revelation of God by God to his creation.
I prefer the Westminster Catechism:
By God’s grace, I intend to do just that.
Cassie of Sydney says: June 5, 2023 at 4:25 pm
“Oh and this friend made the mistake of
misgenderingcorrectly addressing, one of her daughter’s friends, she was asked to apologise [for being correct] and she said NO.”+1+1+1+1+1
If so, WHY are they still enrolled at a girls’ school? They should immediately be re-enrolled at the “brother” school to prevent any further damage to their already fragile psychological state.
If they are boys, be educated as boys.
Oh…wait.
If we are to believe “their” truth, then parents must follow through with the consequences.
Do these girls think they can have fake penises attached to their nether regions from bits of skinned arm flesh and still attend their nice ladies’ finishing establishment.
Time to have a go at the boys’ urinals. Put that piece of useless, crazed vanity to use.
Identify as a dog…eat Pal. Shampoo with gammawash.
I dare you!
That sounds like a just-so story to me. More detailed replies will have to wait until tomorrow.
Pity that most families don’t have one or even two high income earners able to absorb the cost of private schooling or a private tutor. If both parents work, then homsechooling is also out of bounds.
Dot, elite Cof E schools were woke even before the term was invented.
Look, almost every school to some degree has been infected with woke nonsense. Don’t think though , that high schoolers aren’t aware of the bullshit and don’t snigger about it amongst themselves as they do.
Anybody born in the 70s might owe their very existence to this ambrosia.
A bottle of Liebfraumilch and a candlelit dinner at House of Pancakes sets a nicer tone for ones worth having.
This is pro active.
So is this.
Things will only change when people go Bud light on education.
No way $20 espresso martinis can do the same job on apprentice or articled clerk wages. Lucky if you even had enough for a kebab on the way home. The introduction of the $2 coin helped.
Oh, and how would you achieve that, you genius? Most people can’t afford private schooling let alone bespoke (no pun) schooling suggested by Dot earlier.
Here:
Assume a 45% marginal tax rate and you need to make $82,000 a year gross just to cover school cost. Two kids is double. In any event, it’s the main job of the parents to put their kids on the right road. It begins at home, and unlike Leadership is intimating that the blame can only be placed on others rather than the parents. Bullshit.
We are not the only moral animals on this ball of floating rocks. Morals didn’t emerge in an evolutionary vacuum. A social system that arises as a product of natural selection needs a moral structure so that the group dynamic is optimised. Whether other animals consciously make moral judgements we don’t know. For a very long time the assumption was consciousness is specifically a human trait. That has taken serious hits in recent decades with most now admitting there is some type of consciousness there. Google it, many fascinating studies there. That or buy a dog. Dogs, like individuals with William’s Syndrome, are loaded to the hilt with oxytocin and in both humans and dogs oxytocin is a hug hormone.
Daily Mail.
By the second martooni, you may well have lost the capability. The true Snidely Whiplash will have persuaded his date to ‘Have some Madeira my Dear/ It’s really an excellent year!’
I kid you not, a family member works for a large financial. There’s someone there who is partially autistic and she’s demanded people accept that she identifies as a cat. I’m not making this shit up. The firm plays along with the bullshit.
For JC.
I presume she squats in a tray of Kitty Litter?
If not, it’s narcissistic bull. And if so, she needs a straight jacket.
not happy Shar
Yeah, John H. I haven’t read studies about it. I’m of the opinion that self awareness is also related to spatial awareness in the context of where and how say a dog fits into it’s environment. Animals are certainly spatially aware and therefore to a large extent self aware too probably.
Some of this self awareness is missing in humans though. You quite witness the absence by certain people on this blog. 🙂
Certainly and so do the senior executives of the firm allowing this garbage to go on.
Loin King is not a documentary.
You’re mistaken again. I think you mean it’s directed to Trans and the Leadership, his erstwhile defender.
An excellent name for a Butcher franchise.
Or something less savoury.
I double-dog dare you.
Another one for JC.
Re private tutors:
You don’t need one for all hours, all days. They’re actually affordable, given the cost of uniforms, voluntary and compulsory fees, TAS fees, sports fees, excursions…
The problem is for example in the ACT, the town council makes you supervise the tutors! Given you need a decent income to live in Canberra and it has a private sector dwarfed by the government and well-paid government officials, it tends to be only possible for the top officials and (much smaller segment of) elite business owners. If you’re a widow, forget it!
Bespoke, out of all the Liz pile-onners, unintentionally, you were indeed the funniest with all those mangled three-word sentences. What in God’s name made you want to join such a motley crew of losers and depressed idiots? Try to keep up with their nonsense here. Each and every one of those idiots (including you, of course) are defective in some way.
Good luck without atmospheric oxygen and thumbs. The super-intelligent, morally superior, “treat humans as chickens of the land” Great White Sharks were condemned to being fish and chips.
You’re thinking of gummy sharks. Not the same thing.
Most dayz I luv being a fit & healthy 75 years old OAP .. 1500 metres swim this morning and 1st coat paint job (ceiling/walls) on the bathroom this afternoon .. with Conway Twitty, George Jones, Merle Haggard and a host of other CW legends as my, bloody loud, backing support …..!
I wonder if they look for high oxygen concentrations are evidence of microbes in distant planets. The chances of civilisations like us are very remote and the chances of microbial life are much higher.
Summer wine…
Only the wilfully nieve wouldn’t see your concern trolling for what it is, JC.
Stop hiding under a skirt manchild..
And the God story looks like wishful thinking to me.
I asked the granddaughters about this when they came home from their private, Christian school today. “Nah,” says #2 (16 yo), “we don’t go in for all that.” She went on to say that maybe three girls (out of 1,000 students) state that they’re trans and want others to use they/their pronouns. “No one does, apart from their friends. Mostly people just ignore them.”
Imagine if everyone did that, as happened in the past. Or perhaps it’s too late now in this post Christian world of grifters, attention seekers and scoundrels.
Dear Almighty, Please don’t let this happen.
You know, the constitution may not prevent this from happening. I don’t think the Kenyan would play second fiddle the the Crook, but in desperation you never know.
What the constitution actually says.
and
More here:
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fthemessenger.com%2Fopinion%2Fbidens-2024-hail-mary-name-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate
But you stopped it though, didn’t you, you dyslexic nitwit. After you were embarrassed into stopping, you haven’t tried that shit again, have you? And you were once friendly towards me, but eggsactly since that time, you’ve become a hostile.
But hey, at least you’re using some software preventing the verbal abortions you got into. It’s also interesting how you put me down for reminding you of your behavior by suggesting I was white knighting etc, ignoring the fact that you joined up with a gang of defective beating up on a woman.
And fearful. God is the escape from death. The current picture is a universe where everything decays, possibly the universe itself ceases to exist. Not humans though, we are so vastly superior to everything else that us, and only us, will survive the end of everything. We are made of the same stuff that exists in the universe, there is no human particle or field, but the majority maintain we are not wholly of this universe. Computer says no.
Marty Robbins… (Long Version) “El Paso” 1959 with Lyrics
The Internet has been a Godsend for freaks and weirdos. The anorexics used to fill their address books as an inpatient.