Open Thread – Tues 13 June 2023


The Death of King Arthur, James Archer, 1860

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Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 8:54 am

Couple of things. I don’t think Miss Swift would be on vinyl.
As for appearing on FM pukeness, trying to appear hip whilst calling the aforementioned artist as ‘Tay Tay’ is vomit inducing.
And as to the last point, whoever advised him to say that, (guessing a ponytailed git) should be summarily dismissed.

On vinyl? Yeah, nah, as the kids who say Tay Tay would say.

My guess is Swift is his much younger girlfriend’s favourite and raves to him about her.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 9:01 am

An amended statement of claim, filed in court this week, alleges Professor Sutton was personally responsible for the loss and damage caused to I Cook Foods.

Amazingly, when this first came up his defenders said “he had to sign off on the closure of i-Cook, because others had a conflict of interest and couldn’t sign it”.
FMD!
The first thing a responsible Department Head or CEO should ask is, “Oh? And what exactly is that conflict of interest? I’ll leave this execution notice in my in-tray until I get a written statement of the conflict of interest from each and every party involved.”

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 9:04 am

“It was Tay Tay,” the PM replied. “I think she’s terrific, and I think that she’s empowering of young women. If people actually listen to Shake It Off, the lyrics are fantastic. I think it is, I quite enjoy her.”

Radio Birdman should tell Elbow never to wear one of their t-shirts again.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 16, 2023 9:04 am

Dutton then gave Stoker the O.K. to go public, and a clinical execution followed.
Done & dusted.

There is one flaw with this theory, Van is sitting on the crossbench. It’s in Dutton’s interest, rightly or wrongly for Van to resign from parliament so he can get back to the real story.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 9:07 am

Only the wisest and stupidest of men never change.

– Confucius

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 9:07 am

West Australian Liberals finally developing a spine?

Libby Mettam: Same old WA Labor with Roger Cook at the helm
Libby MettamThe West Australian
Fri, 16 June 2023 2:00AM

Do you hear that? That is the same dog whistle that has been blown in this Parliament by that side of politics for decades.

“Every time, like a dog returning to its vomit, these guys trot out their straw man arguments to simply distract members of the community and raise these issues in people’s minds.”

That was new Premier Roger Cook in Parliament this week as he set the standard for how he intends to govern, debate and respond to the legitimate concerns of West Australians.

Asked a fair and reasonable question about the implementation of the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act and he refers to the Opposition as dogs returning to vomit.

A class act.

If West Australians were hoping the first week of the Cook Labor Government would somehow be the start of a more consultative and collaborative style of government, then they would have been sorely disappointed.

After being sidelined two years ago for his mismanagement of the health portfolio to become the minister for special events and concerts, the new Premier failed to prove he was capable of much more in his first week.

Instead, when faced with his first challenge to explain the chaotic implementation of the new laws to protect culturally significant sites, he reverted to the divert and deflect playbook favoured by Labor.

He accused the Opposition of being racist for raising it and said the concerns of farmers were inaccurate.

More than 17,000 West Australians who have signed a petition in the last week calling for a pause on the implementation of these changes disagree with him.

As I wrote in this paper last Friday, the changes to the act will mean landowners with more than 1100sqm may have to obtain a permit to undertake works, such as putting in a fence, footings on a building, or digging a dam, if their land is deemed a cultural heritage site.

It will be up to the landowner to seek out whether there is a culturally significant site on their property, and they will then have to find a local Aboriginal cultural heritage service to survey the site and issue a permit, all at their own expense.

Except, the LACHS aren’t yet established, the guidelines around the permits and appeals process are not yet finalised and the IT system to apply for a permit won’t go live until July 1, when the changes are enacted, meaning affected landowners could wait weeks for a permit.

The Opposition has been inundated with messages from concerned landowners, particularly pastoralists and graziers, about the implications of the changes but also the process, with hundreds turning out to sessions in the regions this week to try to understand them.

The Kimberley Land Council and other Aboriginal groups have also raised concerns, claiming native title groups are “vastly under-resourced” for its roll-out and LACHS are still not established.

As we have stated all along, the Opposition supports the intent of the bill, which is to protect culturally significant sites and ensure that nothing like the destruction of the Juukan Gorge happens again.

However, after ramming the bill through in 2021 and gagging debate in the chamber or any opportunity for it to be scrutinised, the Government now seems intent on rushing out the implementation before the proper processes are in place.

We are asking for a six-month pause to enable the processes to be properly set up and to allow landholders to get across the new requirements and provide appropriate training and gain approvals before any penalties come into effect.

However, instead of considering and listening, the new Premier gave a nothing-to-see-here response before dismissing any concerns as “dog-whistling”.

It was the kind of response that was a hallmark of his time as the Teflon health minister and one we hoped he would have abandoned as Premier. But alas not.

Rabz
June 16, 2023 9:08 am

Amanda Stoker has dropped a lot in my opinion. A sincere apology from Van should be the end of the matter but she raises the issue now in support of an erratic hater like Thorpe.

I always thought she was a useless unprincipled narcissistic airhead. As I noted last night, all the stupid bint has done is give some semblance of legitimacy to the insane fact and evidence free rantings of that Thorpey slag, which were intended purely to take the heat off those equally vile labore slags.

Stoker has caused major damage to her party just when they were gaining ground on Labor’s mean girls.

She was dumped from an electable position on the gliberals senate ticket in Queensland last feral election (obviously for very sound reasons). Her petty allegation against Van is pure petulance, leavened with, “hey, I’m a victim too” bullsh*t.

Let’s have immediate 24/7 video surveillance of every feral politician from now. You know it makes sense.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 9:08 am

HotCopper has a punter’s club.

I’m done.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 16, 2023 9:10 am

My wife reckons 50% of the male population of Australia in the 70’s & 80’s would would be in jail if bum grabbing was a crime back then.
She also added that 100% of the European male population would be in the clink.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 9:10 am

Real Dealsays:

June 16, 2023 at 8:49 am

Get (Gez)

Amanda Stoker has dropped a lot in my opinion.

And what’s with the awful hairdo?

I think she’s auditioning for the role of Wendolene Ramsbottom.

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 9:13 am

To answer your question Cranky, yes my wife knows my politics and shares them. As I have said before on here, we are friends with many of our neighbours including a lesbian couple, one of which was the Greens candidate in recent elections. We normally vote Labor, but we went Green this time because our friend is awesome.

Specifically on the Posie Parker situation, I asked her whether she thought getting jostled and having tomato soup thrown at you constituted assault, she said yes. We will agree to disagree on that one. No court would convict.

She is a true Catholic, a pillar of our church and school communities, a powerhouse of charity and community work. She understands Catholicism as being about compassion and works, unlike the trad weirdos on here who are Calvinist Protestants in all but name (and one of the more extreme variants thereof).

I will not take seriously your “pervert apologist” malarkey, since you continue to defend Bettina Arndt who was famously on the side of an actual rock spider in Nicolaas Bester.

Arndt is a fake and so are you. Why do you continue to use the word “globalist” as a pejorative when you should know very well that it is used mostly as an anti-Semitic slur? Or do you choose to ignore it because it suits your politics to join with the anti-Semites.

You are all over the shop. Have a think about it, Cranky.

calli
calli
June 16, 2023 9:14 am

the lacquered power-bitch look.

Stoker and Cash can go head to head.

I’m putting my money on the Member For VO5.

CharlieP
CharlieP
June 16, 2023 9:15 am

To change the subject entirely, yesterday we visited our youngest grandson’s school for a ‘science’ exhibition. The theme was natural disasters and there were many volcanoes, earthquakes and bushfires depicted. The kids had obviously had a ball. There was even a model of an oil rig that exploded, causing serious loss of life and leaking oil. It did have a special dispensation as somewhat off topic but the enthusiasm of the builders of this model made up for their lack of attention to the brief.
What really caught my eye were the brochures, produced for each model and written by the participants. These were Grade5 and 6 pupils in the Victorian state school system.
I quote from one of these.

Facts about Floods
The biggest flood was in 1219 and it was in the Neverlands
Just six inches of water can knock you down
Floods hlast for days or mothes
Floods are the most natrul disaster in Australier
After floods your house is ruind and mostly everythin
Floods can contain poison dead animals
And you can drow in mater of seconeds
Floods cankill people in
seconed it can kill
people in 10 seconeds or
hurt them really bad
Hope you like my broush and my
informatin reports
and lots of facts and my
modle

Don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I’m more inclined to the latter as this was not the only example of its kind.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 9:15 am

Yeah, Stoker might be settling old scores, but it doesn’t alter the fact that Handsy Van is an A-Grade Olympic standard dickhead.
Yes, I know, bum grabbing was a national sport in the 1980’s (actually it wasn’t) but this was 2020 at a work function, FFS.

Zipster
June 16, 2023 9:17 am
Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 9:19 am

Hope you like my broush and my
informatin reports
and lots of facts and my
modle

Billy, you sleep outside with the Pit Bull and Mastiff for the next three years. Shower with a hose and enjoy a meat-based diet.

Arky
June 16, 2023 9:23 am

These were Grade5 and 6 pupils in the Victorian state school system.

..
Get them the fk out of there Charlie.

Zatara
Zatara
June 16, 2023 9:23 am

UK motorists warned of wearing jeans this summer or risk £1,000 fine and licence points.

“If you wear inappropriate clothing that restricts manoeuvring correctly, you could find yourself with a £100 on-the-spot fine and three penalty points on your licence for careless driving.

“If an incident goes to court, the penalty could go up to a £5,000 fine, nine penalty points and even a driving ban.”

Now tell us all about how you are going to enforce that law on hijab, niqab, or burka wearers. No fear, no favor right?

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 9:24 am

They are tough bastards.

From 2014.

https://patch.com/michigan/wyandotte/bullet-ricochets-pit-bulls-head-injuring-police-officer

A Harper Woods police officer was injured Sunday morning when a bullet fragment ricocheted off the head of a pit bull another officer had shot as they and other members of the suburban police force tried to corral a pair of dogs that had been described as “vicious.”

Maybe promote the dog to the front row of the Wallabies and see if it makes a difference.

calli
calli
June 16, 2023 9:25 am

Heads-up on lounges at Cairns. International is closed, so we wended our way through security to the one in Domestic for breakfast. Being cheapskates, why spend money when you can eat “free”.

Looking out on a beautiful day here. The gardens in Cairns are bursting with colour and delightful palms – I passed a massive Lipstick Palm on my able along the blue line from the International Terminal.

The Beloved could only get seats on Get Stuffed to Narita, fortunately pointy end. I’ve folded myself into Economy on the Bali shuffle…not fun. Grim as any air travel I’ve ever done, made worse by deadbeat parents buying Business and relegating their foul brood to Economy to run riot. There were several couples partying hard at the front while I had feet marching up my back all the way.

Should be an interesting sector…we’ll see. 😀

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 9:29 am

Figures says:
June 16, 2023 at 8:43 am
Thorpe is now calling Dutton a racist because he didn’t care about her allegations, only Stoker’s.
I’m utterly shocked.
I could have sworn that Dutton would now be loved by everybody for his “swift action”.

Ha, ha, or as Sara Hoyt says, this is my shocked face.

So much for all those people who said Dutton is way ahead of the game. Who are his advisors? Knickerless and Sharaz?

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 9:30 am

She is a true Catholic, a pillar of our church and school communities, a powerhouse of charity and community work. She understands Catholicism as being about compassion and works, unlike the trad weirdos on here who are Calvinist Protestants in all but name (and one of the more extreme variants thereof).

Catholic trads, the gauntlet has been thrown down.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 9:31 am

My guess is Swift is his much younger girlfriend’s favourite and raves to him about her.

Probably on the music mix at the luv you long time rub n tug.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 9:33 am

Hope you like my broush

IS THIS MEANT TO MEAN “BROCHURE” ???

My fifth-grade teacher was an old school no nonsense strong woman before the cream puff feministas sullied that epithet. She would kick our arses for errors like those. She was brilliant.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 9:34 am

trad weirdos on here who are Calvinist Protestants in all but name (and one of the more extreme variants thereof).

The Carnival Barker is now an expert on Reformation Theology. What do we call a quasi-Catholic Titus?

Zatara
Zatara
June 16, 2023 9:34 am

Unfortunately not the Bee:

Army considers scrapping ranks including Guardsman and Rifleman because they are too masculine in move to make regiments more inclusive.

In an attempt to make regiments more inclusive, General Sir Patrick Sanders is poised to break hundreds of years of battlefield tradition.

Historic titles used by world-renowned Guards regiments and even his own regiment, the Rifles, could be ditched in favour of gender-neutral ranks.

Sir Patrick’s final decision, expected soon, also has implications for the Royal Navy. If the Army goes gender-neutral, the Navy could be forced to abandon historic ranks such as ‘midshipman’ and ‘seaman’.

When commanders are more concerned with their units being ‘inclusive’ than combat effective and dedication to their traditions the west has gone full-on suicidal.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 9:35 am

Let’s have immediate 24/7 video surveillance of every feral politician from now. You know it makes sense.

Well, those stairs for a start will need cameras installed asap. Buy the Chinese ones so you will always have downloaded content in Beijing for backup.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 9:36 am

calli says:
June 16, 2023 at 9:14 am
the lacquered power-bitch look.
Stoker and Cash can go head to head.

I’m putting my money on the Member For VO5.

Calli, you are a card!

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 9:36 am

“Arndt is a fake and so are you. Why do you continue to use the word “globalist” as a pejorative when you should know very well that it is used mostly as an anti-Semitic slur? Or do you choose to ignore it because it suits your politics to join with the anti-Semites.”

Nah pervert apologist, I’m no fake, it’s you who’s the fraud. Funny, I do recall how you once write on these pages, in response to Jews being murdered, that some Jew killers have “legitimate grievances”, they were your words, you just don’t like to own them. You also wrote on these pages back in March that you support violence against women whose opinions you don’t like. Oh and nice you admit above that you voted for Australian’s one and truly Jew hating party. How quaint, Jew haters always like to stick together.

Every time you come here and post your adolescent, offensive dribble, you’ll be pulled up.

As for this…

“She is a true Catholic, a pillar of our church and school communities, a powerhouse of charity and community work. She understands Catholicism as being about compassion and works, unlike the trad weirdos on here who are Calvinist Protestants in all but name (and one of the more extreme variants thereof).

Firstly, so you send your children to Catholic schools? Interesting, in other words, you’re a hypocrite. Secondly, does your wife, a so called true Catholic, and pillar of the community, also think Pell was a rock spider, like you do, even after the bruising HC verdict?

You once used the word “unseemly” here. You described yourself to a tee. Everything about you is “unseemly”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2023 9:39 am

Here’s a more likely scenario:

You don’t have to live in the Stone Age to have a Dreamtime.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 9:40 am

It’s in Dutton’s interest, rightly or wrongly for Van to resign from parliament so he can get back to the real story.

No, it isn’t.
Dutton has booted Van from the Party Room, what Van does for the rest of his 6 year Term is up to him.
He’s been disgraced, so he might as well snatch it, but he’s got a hide like a rhinoceros too.
There is a bigger issue, that is that some in the Liberal Party had known about this for years and kept a lid on it, which supports what Brittany Higgins has said.
You’d hafta wonder what Political Staffers and others might say about Senator Van, since there’s a pattern of disturbing behaviour around women?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 9:42 am

On reading comprehension.

I dont have the links but there are terrifying threads (generally on reddit) of people admitting they cant comprehend of understand adult language being used in books.

Not dyslexia or anything so grand, but just “I am having to stop every page and google 2-3 words for their meanings” stuff.
Ive also seen people speculating this is why the young adult book market is doing fairly well. It effectively caters for people who cant comprehend language beyond grade 7 stuff.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 9:44 am

Hope you like my broush and my
informatin reports
and lots of facts and my
modle

Don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I’m more inclined to the latter as this was not the only example of its kind.

I don’t blame the kids, this is a reflection on the teaching staff. Not only have they failed in their primary duty to make the kids literate but they are either too lazy or too stupid to cover their failures. They couldn’t even be bothered to proofread the exhibits and insist on corrections.

On the other hand, they may be from the new generation of teachers who are themselves illiterate so they saw nothing wrong there.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 9:46 am

Army considers scrapping ranks including Guardsman and Rifleman because they are too masculine in move to make regiments more inclusive.

No prizes for guessing what wil come of this: a drop in recruits.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 9:47 am

She understands Catholicism as being about compassion and works

That’s very commendable, but it isn’t entirely accurate. What is in the catechism & magisterium is Catholicism – which is the unbroken church line back to Simon Peter and Christ, in one church for all of humanity, the Church teaches this is true, scripturally based Christianity – the original and apostolic Church.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2023 9:47 am

The timing of Thorpe’s allegations are both helpful and coincidental. As others have noted, you suspect they have been in the back pocket for some time. I wonder what she’s been promised?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 9:49 am

She understands Catholicism as being about compassion and works

So she had compassion for that Mr Pell chap after his wrongful imprisonment?

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 9:49 am

Yes Cranky, our kids do go to a nice little Catholic school. It is very important to my wife and I did not fight her on it, at least not at primary level. The issue might be more pertinent once the kids reach high school because there aren’t any really good ones in Melbourne’s west, especially for boys. She reckons we might put our boy in the train every morning by himself to go to a school over east. I am dubious. We shall see in due time.

No one really knows whether Pell was guilty other than him. There was a time when he was a convicted rock spider, now he isn’t. That is part of the majesty of the law, it can confer such status and take it away. He won the process, good for him. Who can say with any certainty exactly what happened? It wasn’t made up from whole cloth, but it couldn’t be proved in court. Somewhere in the middle is the truth.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2023 9:50 am

This is from the WSJ and is paywalled. But the heading seems to speak for itself.

The World Economic Forum Is Coming for Your Cars
How about the Davos crowd first give up their private jets?

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 9:51 am

What is in the catechism & magisterium is Catholicism – which is the unbroken church line back to Simon Peter and Christ, in one church for all of humanity, the Church teaches this is true, scripturally based Christianity – the original and apostolic Church.

I am sure that made more sense in the original Latin.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 9:51 am

Army considers scrapping ranks including Guardsman and Rifleman because they are too masculine in move to make regiments more inclusive.

Guardsperson, Rifleperson, Midshipperson just don’t have the same cachet, do they?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 9:53 am

Bell ends switch population ponzi up to 11.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/15/australias-population-grew-at-fastest-rate-since-2008-amid-post-covid-migration-boom

“Our population at 31 December 2022 is 26.3 million people, after we recorded an increase of 496,800 people over the year,” she said.

“There were 619,600 overseas migration arrivals and 232,600 departures, resulting in Australia’s population growing by 387,000 people from overseas migration.”

Cho said a recovery of international student arrivals was driving the net overseas migration rate to “historic highs”, while departures were lagging behind levels typically seen during the past decade.

“This pattern is expected to continue as international students return following the reopening of international borders, however there are fewer students ready to depart because very few arrived during the pandemic,” she said.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 9:53 am

That’s very commendable, but it isn’t entirely accurate.

It isn’t even basic Christianity.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 9:53 am

Thorpey is a blunt instrument to Blackwash the No Case.

Obviously the Liberal Party has a problem with covering up assaults on women by sleazebags and it’s better that it’s been revealed now instead of later, but i’m not seeing how this hurts Dutton unless he knew about it all along and Stoker acted without consulting him.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2023 9:55 am
Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 9:56 am

monty if you’re arguing that tradition doesn’t matter in a 2000-year-old institution, you can’t be helped.

No one really knows whether Pell was guilty other than him.

“Jay” perjured himself at least three times before trial, during the committal and during each trial.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 9:58 am

“No one really knows whether Pell was guilty other than him. There was a time when he was a convicted rock spider, now he isn’t. That is part of the majesty of the law, it can confer such status and take it away. He won the process, good for him. Who can say with any certainty exactly what happened? It wasn’t made up from whole cloth, but it couldn’t be proved in court. Somewhere in the middle is the truth.”

LOL, you really are a disgraceful low life. I note that only the other day you came here, dissing this place, telling us how busy you are, and smearing us as “you lot”, yet oddly you can’t stay away from “us lot”. Odd that.

Oh and hear this pervert apologist…

GEORGE PELL WAS INNOCENT

Now piss off.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2023 9:59 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 10:00 am

LOL, you really are a disgraceful low life. I note that only the other day you came here, dissing this place, telling us how busy you are, and smearing us as “you lot”, yet oddly you can’t stay away from “us lot”. Odd that.

It’s not as though there is a great deal going on on his own blog, is there?

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 10:00 am

Cho said a recovery of international student arrivals was driving the net overseas migration rate to “historic highs”…

You mean to say they’re never going home?

Rabz
June 16, 2023 10:01 am

I wonder what she’s been promised?

Multiple millions of OPM.

“Parliamentary Sex Pest Allegation Lotto”.

Step up with your hysterical fabricated allegations and win the big one!

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2023 10:02 am
Figures
Figures
June 16, 2023 10:09 am

People that Monty and his wife have zero compassion for:

The unvaxed.
The vaccine injured.
Right wingers.
Babies.
Women who don’t want to be raped in prison by “women”.
Men who are falsely imprisoned.
People who start or invest in businesses.
People who go to churches that teach the Bible rather than the Rainbow Flag.
Anybody who doesn’t want themselves or their children to be bombarded with gay porn every minute of their lives

People that Monty and his wife do have compassion for:

Murderers
Rapists
Thieves
Those who bear false witness

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 10:12 am

The friend who rang me last night to ask about Amanda Stoker also said that there are too many women in politics.

I suspect she has a point.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2023 10:13 am

“Our population at 31 December 2022 is 26.3 million people, after we recorded an increase of 496,800 people over the year,” she said.

Great replacement in action.

Statistics suggest Australians are having less children (Sky News, 15 Jun)

Latest data from the Bureau of Statistics suggests Australians are having less children on average.

Perhaps the Australian government could encourage more births, like Hungary does? One for mum, one for dad and one for the country!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 16, 2023 10:15 am

I’m with you CharlieP, cry. At first I thought you wre talking about 5-6 yr olds and thought they did a pretty good job, then reread. Oh dear. While I was reading your comment I could hear Bill Shortone saying it. My nearly 3 grandson can now count to 20 and can recognise the numbers. He regularly uses 4 syllable words and uses them in context. His favourite videos are how machines work, from vacuum cleaners to excavators, how to pull them apart and put back together. I expect to find the vacuum cleaner in pieces one day soon. When I was 3 my grandparents gave me a tinplate racing car, 15 minutes later I had it apart to see how the friction drive worked. Nana was horrified, Granddad was proud. We never spoke baby to our kids and the don’t either. We don’t think our kids or grandchildren are exceptional. As they have proved to their employers, they are. Probably because most these days are hopeless and my kids stand out. My outlook is, if you don’t have standards don’t be surprised by the lack of results. I think the majority here, aka you lot, have family the same as me. They aren’t special apart from the parenting received which by today’s standards make them special. I guess being responsible for them. Only smacked them on a few occasions, instead offered them the choice of a smacked bum or a cuddle. Which showed them even though they’d done the wrong thing we still cared about them. When they got older all I said was “disappointing”, then carried on as if nothing happened. Always stood up for them if in trouble at school. Children are the only hope humanity has. They deserve better. Gotta go, the pelicans have a school of fish trapped. Much excitement.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 10:16 am

Scoffing at the use of Latin, Hebrew and Greek really is an ignorant and dumbed down, modernist and spiritually dead version of Christianity.

You could always join Lions, Rotary or Apex.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 16, 2023 10:17 am

I suspect the Deputy Mayor of Malmö wouldn’t.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2023 10:17 am

As a Senator installed by and of the Greens (but no longer) Thorpe’s time as a Senator is finished at the next election. See Cory Bernardi for how that works. Lydia will have an eye on the future. No Jacqui Jacqui natural base of Tasmanian bogans for her.

CharlieP
CharlieP
June 16, 2023 10:19 am

Arky, if it were down to me I would definitely have grandson out of there. He was at a really lovely Catholic school with his two elder brothers but the family moved further out and this is the local school he can walk to. His class has just been given a 65yo teacher who is ‘very strict’. The kids all love her, apparently, so we shall wait to see if she has any impact. This was a multi-class effort and I don’t think the writer of the quoted brochure is in his class. His spelling can be a bit creative because he is somewhat dyslexic but the brochure from his group was a pretty good effort.
I’m still processing yesterday’s experience. One of the funniest moments was when the group from a different class who had chosen a solar energy project told us that their model house should have lights on but because the sun wasn’t shining their system wasn’t working.
And Crossie, you are absolutely right about the level of competence of the teachers. But the parents dismiss concerns about spelling and grammar with an airy wave of the hand – spellchecker will deal with all that. Except that it doesn’t.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 10:20 am
calli
calli
June 16, 2023 10:21 am

the trad weirdos on here who are Calvinist Protestants in all but name

I’m happy to identify as one. And I’m sure heaven’s many rooms have a weirdo one just for me.

Make sure there’s accommodation set aside for you. Don’t leave it too late.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 10:23 am

One of the funniest moments was when the group from a different class who had chosen a solar energy project told us that their model house should have lights on but because the sun wasn’t shining their system wasn’t working.

Now there’s a “learning” for them!

😀

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 10:27 am

As a Senator installed by and of the Greens (but no longer) Thorpe’s time as a Senator is finished at the next election.

Her term expires in June, 2028.

vr
vr
June 16, 2023 10:28 am

new tucker monologue just dropped.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 10:28 am

I’m happy to identify as one.

Tell me you haven’t swum the Tiber, calli!

JC
JC
June 16, 2023 10:31 am

Figures, why are you bringing Fatboy’s spouse into your comment? What has she got to do with it?

If people aren’t playing in the sandpit, it’s a good idea to leave them out.

Arky
June 16, 2023 10:34 am

Charlie, the primary school will be a feeder for a state secondary.
Make sure you check that place out early.
Look for LGMGBGT posters, rainbow flags, blue haired staff, bearded blokes in tutus, etc, etc. All indications of an ideology you may not be fully aboard with as a family. While in civil society we might want to give opposing folk a little tolerance, if it flips over to full blown indoctrination + stupid incompetence, that’s another thing.
On the other hand, the school might be OK.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 10:36 am

WTF?!

“We Have Plans To Build A Railroad From The Pacific All The Way Across The Indian Ocean”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRmCL_vOin4

“I’m going off script, I’m going to get in trouble…”

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2023 10:36 am

Her term expires in June, 2028.

Plenty of time to get a few QANGOs lined up. The Liars are great at warehousing. The Greens can’t do that yet.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 10:39 am

While in civil society we might want to give opposing folk a little tolerance…

Tolerance is so last century.

They now demand obeisance.

cohenite
June 16, 2023 10:39 am

Jackson was a pioneer. She, along with Baez pioneered the arrogant, bullying, intolerant and very agressive marxist woman that became the role model for our contemporary hard left political she creatures.

Yep; she was a bitch, on celluloid and off.

Speaking of bitches, I have mixed feelings about Stoker; this smacks of revenge for losing her pre selection or maybe she knew the liars and thorpie knew about her bum tingling from Van, were going to do something about it and she had to head them off. In any event this has all the earmarks, pussymarks, whatever, of another superb bit of political machination by the liars. It’s now all about the spineless libs and who is Kate Gallagher again.

C.L.
C.L.
June 16, 2023 10:40 am

Judge Dutton goes full ScoMo, says Van should leave Parliament.
That is, he’s guilty.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 10:40 am

Plenty of time to get a few QANGOs lined up.

A QANGO drafting the treaty to be imposed on Australia?

Jorge
Jorge
June 16, 2023 10:44 am

She also added that 100% of the European male population would be in the clink.

While Australians were given garment-rending and sackcloth and ashes in Canberra yesterday, Italians were watching Silvio B farewelled in a state funeral from Milan cathedral. A number of girlfriends in mourning, along with his children and last wife, 53 years his junior, helped fill the front pews.
The sermon, very much on point, was about ‘enjoying life’.
Adults vse children.

C.L.
C.L.
June 16, 2023 10:45 am

Speaking of bitches, I have mixed feelings about Stoker; this smacks of revenge for losing her pre selection…

Or just a reckoning if he really did grope her bottom.
In which case, he FA and FO.
Hadn’t really heard of Van but I see in reports that he’s a Ukwaine Forever! tragic.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 16, 2023 10:46 am

Knuckle Dragger says: June 16, 2023 at 6:51 am

Aaaaand a very good morning to the lurKerspooKflaMerTraiTors.

A totally redundant statement.
The sun never sets on Spookville.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 10:48 am

Indolent says:
June 16, 2023 at 9:46 am
Biden’s DOJ Turned Trump’s Secret Service Detail Into Informants

From what I read Trump always had his own security on top of those assigned to him. This is just another attempt to further alienate him from the Secret Service but probably doesn’t matter at this stage.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 10:50 am

Roger says:
June 16, 2023 at 10:00 am
Cho said a recovery of international student arrivals was driving the net overseas migration rate to “historic highs”…
You mean to say they’re never going home?

Nope. Our universities are simply permanent residency factories.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 10:54 am

Before quotas for women, we had the likes of Margaret Thatcher, Golda Meir, Edith Lyons, Dorothy Tangney, Margaret Guilfoyle and so on.

Now with quotas for women, we have the likes of Thorpe, Faruqi, Pong, Stoker, Gallagher, and so on.

You be the judge.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 16, 2023 10:54 am

Beef producers are asking Colesworth why meat prices aren’t dropping as the sale-yard prices are well down and they are angry that high shop prices are causing a big hit on demand.
The response is blather about customer first an’ shit.
A butcher quoted in the rural press is more honest – he said it’s insurance, power, labour and transport costs that keep the price up.
Why is meat so expensive when the laws of supply and demand say it should be getting cheaper?
Government interference in the economy in pursuit of climate policy – but you already knew that.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2023 10:55 am

Our universities are simply permanent residency factories.

Lucky the Doomlord isn’t here. Or is he? Uber drivers perform a more valuable function than contract lecturers.

Bill P
Bill P
June 16, 2023 10:58 am

Gez

My wife reckons 50% of the male population of Australia in the 70’s & 80’s would would be in jail if bum grabbing was a crime back then.

I have heard that pubs such as the Wanker & Grope* in Richmond were quite the place on a Friday night in the seventies.
* Anchor & Hope

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 10:59 am

Back from my “puberty for primary kids” talk…

Kids were ok, main takeaway I wanted to impart (after we went through the whole “longer/stronger/hairier/smellier”) was ‘its normal to feel confused or worry, but talk to mum/dad or someone (dr/psych etc) face to face if you think you need help or have more questions”…

Think they got it, one lad piped up with “if you go on the internet you might get scammed” which was perfect.

And no, I didnt bring on a 1/2 time drag clown to entertain them.

Parents are buggers though, they were told Id be doing the presentation, now they want me to do follow ups….

Heres what i based it on.
https://www.healthline.com/health/parenting/stages-of-puberty

The tanner stages.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 16, 2023 11:00 am

There is a bigger issue, that is that some in the Liberal Party had known about this for years and kept a lid on it, which supports what Brittany Higgins has said.
You’d hafta wonder what Political Staffers and others might say about Senator Van, since there’s a pattern of disturbing behaviour around women?

This is rolled gold bullshit. The only thing Van is guilty of is pinching someone on the arse. He was solidly rebuked at the time for it, he desisted and there is no evidence he did it again. Perhaps he should have excused himself from this topic.

Thorpe would need to have more than her say so for anyone to believe anything that comes out of her mouth. She’s made that bed, no one else. Stoker should know this, she is doing no one any favours by pretending an arse pinch is evidence of serial sexual harassment.

It is a clumsy, schoolboy attempt at a sexual advance and we would all hope that elected members of parliament are better than that. On that basis, was I Dutton, I’d suggest to him his time is done here and he should resign from parliament. Brazen is for the alp, the greens and Thorpe.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 16, 2023 11:04 am

Crossie @ 9:44am….

On the other hand, they may be from the new generation of teachers who are themselves illiterate so they saw nothing wrong there.

That is the more likely explanation. I suspect we’re about 2 generations into basic illiteracy and it will grow

I’ve seen it in mid 20’s young adults who don’t understand the basics of english expression. From a teacher decades ago of grade 5 whose comments on a report card were incoherent to a 24 year old employee 7 years ago who didn’t know how to correctly address and write a letter or the envelope.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 11:10 am

Rabz

Let’s have immediate 24/7 video surveillance of every feral politician from now. You know it makes sense.

With Grandpa Ed Cletus-Case in charge of the CCTV library?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 11:10 am

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.

– George S. Patton

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 16, 2023 11:14 am

. But the parents dismiss concerns about spelling and grammar with an airy wave of the hand – spellchecker will deal with all that. Except that it doesn’t.

I had a teacher tell me that kids didn’t need to have handwriting because everything would be done on a keyboard in future.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 11:15 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
June 16, 2023 at 10:12 am
The friend who rang me last night to ask about Amanda Stoker also said that there are too many women in politics.

I suspect she has a point.

That also occurred to me last night but my thought was more age related than male/female. Too many young women are either in parliament or work as staffers which evidently leads to stupid behaviour. When women entered politics in the past they did it at a mature age after their families were grown up. We should go back to that practice and then will find that the current peccadillos will disappear overnight.

What’s more, mature age women have a much great life experience and acquired wisdom to bring to the parliament and government. I would prefer women 50 and over with serious attitudes to life, law and politics.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 11:15 am

She is a true Catholic, a pillar of our church and school communities, a powerhouse of charity and community work. She understands Catholicism as being about compassion and works,

Unlike the fat fascist fool?

And what are the odds she is on some form of Plenary Council?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 11:17 am

Thorpey drew 40,174 BTL votes at the election [as a Green], at least 10,000 more than any other candidate.
So, she’s got a constituency out there, and she’s not shy about putting herself forward.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 11:17 am

H B Bearsays:

June 16, 2023 at 10:55 am

Our universities are simply permanent residency factories.

Lucky the Doomlord isn’t here. Or is he? Uber drivers perform a more valuable function than contract lecturers.

Err, most contract lecherers are Uber drivers.

Zatara
Zatara
June 16, 2023 11:20 am

Guy Buys Physical Encyclopedia Set to Prepare for Information Doomsday

“… a little voice in the back of my head reasoned that it would be nice to have a good summary of non-woke human knowledge in print…”

I started collecting old classics to pass on to the future generations of the family when ‘they’ started censoring/rewriting them. The Dr Seuss collection for example. But a good set of encyclopedias would be key.

Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 11:21 am

The Liars are great at warehousing. The Greens can’t do that yet.

Oh yes they can: the Filth have the Ponds Institute where illiterate activists like Richard Dennissss pretend to understand economics and mouth off endlessly about expanding Big Government Keynesianism.

The Filth love pretending to be experts about economics while welcoming Chinese imperialism where the communist state creates a fake free market and encourages Western bureaucracies to put more obstacles in the way of Western competition.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 11:22 am

Before quotas for women, we had the likes of Margaret Thatcher, Golda Meir, Edith Lyons, Dorothy Tangney, Margaret Guilfoyle and so on.

Now with quotas for women, we have the likes of Thorpe, Faruqi, Pong, Stoker, Gallagher, and so on.

Quotas certainly don’t help, but the calibre of politicians has dropped across the board.

I read it as a sign of the decline of Western cultures (which on can also see evidence of in military leadership).

Giorgia Meloni is an interesting exception.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 11:22 am

Grandpa Cletus

There is a bigger issue, that is that some in the Liberal Party had known about this for years and kept a lid on it, which supports what Brittany Higgins has said.

In your enthusiasm for shilling for Labor, you forgot to mention the very many allegations against Liars MPs, which have been hinted at, and the Party had “known about … for years and kept a lid on [them]”. Strange how such a (claimed) Liberal supporter as you had such a memory loss.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 11:23 am

This is rolled gold bullshit. The only thing Van is guilty of is pinching someone on the arse.

No.
He grabbed Stoker’s buttock with his claw – twice.
If you think this was his Van’s only rodeo, you’re even stupider than I thought.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2023 11:24 am

The Ponds Institute is a respected think tank frequently relied on by Australia’s most trusted news source.

Entropy
Entropy
June 16, 2023 11:25 am

Quotas certainly don’t help, but the calibre of politicians has dropped across the board.

the bigger the cowpat the more blowflies turn up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 11:27 am

Before quotas for women, we had the likes of Margaret Thatcher, Golda Meir, Edith Lyons, Dorothy Tangney, Margaret Guilfoyle and so on.

Anybody care to speculate how Margaret Thatcher or Golda Meir would have reacted to fondled buttocks?

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 16, 2023 11:29 am

Ed, you are just indulging gossip. Dutton has called for him to resign. Prove someone covered something up, don’t use more gossip.

As for calling someone stupid, well you have disgraced yourself so many times here your credibility is lower than Thorpe’s.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 11:29 am

Fat Fascist Fool

No one really knows whether Pell was guilty other than him. There was a time when he was a convicted rock spider, now he isn’t. That is part of the majesty of the law, it can confer such status and take it away. He won the process, good for him. Who can say with any certainty exactly what happened?

Not even his accuser? Anyone with even a basic understanding of Catholic high Mass ritual would immediately know that the story as presented to the Court was physically impossible. Clearly your knowledge is deficient. Ask your PP to enrol you in a confirmation course.

Frank
Frank
June 16, 2023 11:32 am

My fifth-grade teacher was an old school no nonsense strong woman before the cream puff feministas sullied that epithet. She would kick our arses for errors like those. She was brilliant.

A picture begins to take form on the mind’s eye. Associated with this is a long developmental pathway leading to the full flowering of the present day psychology.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 11:32 am

Thorpey drew more below the line votes than any other Senate candidate anywhere in the Country.
Legend.

areff
areff
June 16, 2023 11:34 am

Tucker’s latest best yet. Am loving what he’s doing to Fox and what Fox is doing to itself.

Meanwhile, Rupert in his dotage proposes marriage to random passing women, shoots himself up with extract of monkey testicles and accepts the forelock-tugging praise and fealty of executive straps like, well, the sort of editor who installs leftoid J-school grads as comment moderators.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2023 11:34 am

Guy Buys Physical Encyclopedia Set to Prepare for Information Doomsday

The guy who got canceled by Amazon because someone thought his doorbell was racist might agree.
I’d hate having my Kindle turned off by Amazon. Fortunately I have a dozen bookcases of dead trees.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 11:34 am

Bill Psays:

June 16, 2023 at 10:58 am

Gez

My wife reckons 50% of the male population of Australia in the 70’s & 80’s would would be in jail if bum grabbing was a crime back then.

I have heard that pubs such as the Wanker & Grope* in Richmond were quite the place on a Friday night in the seventies.
* Anchor & Hope

I think any ladies attending the Wanker and Grope back then were like young chaps engaging in the Running of the Bulls in Pamplona.
If you got knocked down, knocked up, gored and pawed it was totally on you.
Truth is, I think it was about then that things started to turn.
Someone I know started out as an emergency teacher (lowest on the totem pole) in a rough Westie tech school in the mid ’80’s. One day during a recess or class changeover a year 9-10 boy grabbed her on the arse. When she complained to the Principal, he just laughed it off as “Boys will be boys”.
She stewed on it overnight and went back the next day and approached the Principal again. “Look” he said, “there really isn’t much I can do about it”.
“I know” she replied. “That’s why I am just letting you know I am going down to the local Police Station after school today to report it as an assault”.
The colour drained from his face.
She was called to his office after lunch and the boy was there with his father.
Forced to apologise and expelled on the spot.
Of course, this didn’t enhance her regard for the Principal at all. He had just taken what he saw as the line of least resistance both times.

areff
areff
June 16, 2023 11:34 am

satraps, not ‘straps’ (one day I’ll learn to type)

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 11:37 am

JCsays:
June 16, 2023 at 10:31 am
Figures, why are you bringing Fatboy’s spouse into your comment? What has she got to do with it?

If people aren’t playing in the sandpit, it’s a good idea to leave them out.

Fatboy brought her in.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 11:39 am

Remember that Staffer for Craig Kelly who got handsy/kissy/huggy with junior female staff?
What happened to him?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 11:41 am

Fatboy brought her in.

Wrong.
Cassie of Sydney spent the last 6 months talking about his wife in crude terms.
He just set her straight on a few things.

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 11:41 am

It isn’t even basic Christianity.

Compassion and works aren’t basic Christianity, Roger? You do say the strangest things.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 11:43 am

Ed Casesays:

June 16, 2023 at 11:17 am

Thorpey drew 40,174 BTL votes at the election [as a Green], at least 10,000 more than any other candidate.

Oh dear, Googlery.
Let me explain what happened in Victorianistan at the last election.
The Gweens, in their wisdom, chose Thorpey as the face of their campaign (I know, right).
So, at every booth, there were coreflutes everywhere exhorting voters to “Vote 1 Thorpey”. Their local lower house candidates must have been fuming because their advertising collateral amounted to some low quality HTV cards.
Without all the Gween money being thrown at promoting her, she will sink like so many others before.
Watch this space.
If she stands again and her polling shows the merest flicker of life, the dirty laundry will drop from the Gweens.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 11:43 am

cohenite

Opinion please on Garrett v VWA [2023] VSCA 144

You can point a loaded gun at a coworker’s head…apparently.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 11:44 am

Van Damned.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 16, 2023 11:44 am

Compare the pair, Gallagher admits to misleading parliament, inappropriate payout made, Albo, nothing to see here. Van accused by serial liar and bikie consort of inappropriate behaviour, Dutton investigates, finds more that he likes, removes him from party room and calls for resignation.

One deserves to represent the people, Albo is a partisan hack who represents himself via his leisure time at rub and tuggeries.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 16, 2023 11:45 am

The commentary in the Australian, currently enraging Albanese and Mark Dreyfus:

Ms Higgins was “diagnosed as medically unfit for any form of ­employment, and has been given a very poor prognosis for future ­employment” following the incident. She was therefore due $2,521,314.40 in economic loss, it [solicitor’s letter] states.

The document, dated March 29 last year, claimed Ms Higgins had “not been engaged in any form of employment” since February 8, 2021, except for one day, after she resigned from her politics staffer role.

Which document also contained a cleverly worded threat of moah damages, huger and more expensive damages – inevitable costs that could only be avoided by settling promptly and without legal proceedings:

“If the matter proceeds, the claimant will obtain a forensic ­accounting report, but anticipates that this part of the claim for future economic loss will be in order of at least an additional $1,000,000.”

But, but, but:

Since March 2021, Ms Higgins worked as the media Adviser for the First Peoples’ Assembly of Victoria – a job she obtained with the assistance of her partner David Sharaz and his friend, former Labor Adviser, Emma Webster. She was also an interim media ­Adviser with the Queensland Human Rights Commission, according to her LinkedIn profile.

Ms Higgins was appointed a ­visiting fellow at the Australian National University Global Institute for Women’s Leadership at the end of 2021.

She is currently writing a book that will “shine a light on the toxic workplace culture of parliament”, and has this year teamed up with Ms Webster to launch a new company called Power Blazers Pty Ltd.

Just imagine what Our Brinny might have accomplished without a “very poor prognosis for future ­employment”. A cure for cancer and peace in the Middle East would have been assured – and war in the Ukraine would have been avoided.

An acid test for Brereton and the NACC. Squib this one and become another eunuch in the Court of the ALP.

CharlieP
CharlieP
June 16, 2023 11:46 am

Yes, Arky, the chosen high school ( private) seems pretty conservative and has high standards. The two older boys have gone through already.
I pity the high school teachers having to deal with the semi-literacy of this cohort though. I think the incompetence of newer teachers is really beginning to show. And who is to teach them grammar now that those of us who had a good grounding in the subject are past retirement age? Even Quadrant needs a sub-editor quite often.
And the attitude that children must never be told they are wrong contributes.

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 11:46 am

Another reason why Trump is fu.ked:

Why Donald Trump Cannot Get a Top-Tier Lawyer: by Alan M. Dershowitz
June 15, 2023 at 5:00 am. Gatestone Institute

Two main reasons:

1. Trump has a very long history of stiffing his employees on the bill.

2. Trump also has a very long history of incriminating his lawyers.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 11:48 am

Ed Casesays:
June 16, 2023 at 11:41 am
Fatboy brought her in.

Wrong.
Cassie of Sydney spent the last 6 months talking about his wife in crude terms.
He just set her straight on a few things.

Wronger. Cassie made some general remarks asking whether Fatboy’s wife knew about the stupidities that he indulged in here. Fatboy himself made the very specific remarks that led to various responses today.

Try to gain some kind of comprehension skills, even if they are limited.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 16, 2023 11:49 am

Cassie those magnificent women didn’t achieve greatness to get a snout in the trough. I saw a bit of a movie about Maggie the other day. I doubt it would be made today. How accurate it was, I don’t really know, but the bit I saw had her saying ” it’s all about feelnz today, not thoughts and idea’s. Has life become so easy one doesn’t have to think anymore?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2023 11:49 am

Monty really does like fascism, doesn’t he?

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 11:54 am

So Cranky, no response to Bettina Arndt’s shameful association with convicted rock spider Nicolaas Bester? You come at me with “pervert apologist” all the time but that is exactly what Arndt is, and so are you by defending this association.

It is always, always projection with you lot.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 11:54 am

Compassion and works aren’t basic Christianity, Roger? You do say the strangest things.

It would only appear strange to someone unfamiliar with the Bible.

cohenite
June 16, 2023 11:55 am

Tucker almost 6 mill already for his 4th program. He’s spot on and begins by detailing the inglorious decline of his former employer, Fox.

His subject is, is biden a dictator. He notes that Fox initially had up a screen comment saying dictator imprisons rival beneath a split screen of biden and Trump. The Fox employee who put up the comment was fired. Reaction from the demorats was instant with the usual crowd calling for the closure of Fox. They have no self awareness at all. In the natural world they advocate they would be the first to be eaten.

eric hinton
eric hinton
June 16, 2023 11:57 am

re

Social justice is to justice what ‘social science’ is to science.

-Mother Lode upstream.

Any field that has the word ‘science’ in its name is guaranteed thereby not to be a science.

– Frank Harary

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 11:58 am

It would only appear strange to someone unfamiliar with the Bible.

You seem like an Old Testament guy, Roger. Did you skip over the parts with Jesus?

Aaron
Aaron
June 16, 2023 11:58 am

From hellcat taking on a nightclub at 3.00 am to weeping virgin in one political movement.

Meanwhile, I wonder if Ms Phillips is packing the bags for some more European tours courtesy of Combet.

Maybe Burke’s “secretary” could give her some tips on spots for the well heeled to see.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 12:02 pm

Barry Cable just lost a civil case involving abuse of an underage girl in the 1960’s – 1970’s.
$800,000 damages.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 12:04 pm

You seem like an Old Testament guy, Roger. Did you skip over the parts with Jesus?

Since you mention him…

‘Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”’

“…my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

John 6.

The heart of Christianity is faith in Jesus; good works are the fruit of that faith.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is putting the proverbial cart before the horse.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 16, 2023 12:04 pm

Anyone catch First Inventors last night? Or shall I see myself out?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 16, 2023 12:05 pm

In Do Their Mothers Know Where They Are? news:

High-performance guidelines released for transgender and gender diverse inclusion in Australian sport

The Australian Sports Commission (ASC) has released its guidelines for the inclusion of transgender and gender diverse athletes in high performance sport, reminding sports governing bodies of their commitment to promoting a ‘spirit of inclusion’ and abiding by Australian law.

They are in line with the International Olympic Committee’s (IOC) guidelines, advocating inclusion-first, with exemptions determined on a case-by-case basis.

Sports such as World Athletics, World Swimming and World Rugby have largely ignored the IOC guidelines, opting instead for a blanket ban on transgender women who experienced male puberty.

If Australia’s governing bodies from those same sports adopt the ASC guidelines it would put them at odds with their international federations, but if they follow their international federation policies, they risk breaking Australian law.

The CEO of the Australian Sports Commission, Kieren Perkins, told The Ticket that the guidelines were developed to offer the clarity domestic sports asked for.

“What we’ve been able to do…working with medical professionals, people involved in sport – both cisgender and trans athletes, as well as the LGBTQ+ community and others… [is] to actually find the Australian context and come up with guidelines that allow for a pragmatic approach.”

A pragmatic approach? Good work.

Oh:

Complications could arise where Australia hosted an international event in a sport where domestically transgender women were allowed to compete, but internationally they were not.

An athlete excluded under such conditions could challenge the decision in court.

“When an international governing body is owning and managing a competition in Australia, do their international guidelines supersede the, I guess the context of Australian law? That would be an interesting one for us to navigate,” Perkins said.

Stunning, brave and interesting support for the gender challenged. And, luckily for female women, the Australian Sports Commission is committed to “maintaining meaningful competition in the female category“.

In Good Hands.

cohenite
June 16, 2023 12:05 pm

So Cranky, no response to Bettina Arndt’s shameful association with convicted rock spider Nicolaas Bester?

You’re such a liar dickless. Here is Arndt’s association with Bester. Which is to say no association at all. But you’re typical of all lefties: punishment is just revenge for those with different political views. Arndt gets pursued by the fu.king left because she’s not of the left. The left’s hideous crimes are ignored:

1Tits
2 Rub and tug
3 Female Labor staffers warn male MPs they will ‘no longer keep their secrets’
4 Mrs Coutts-Trotter

Anyway off you go and look after the milko’s kiddies.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 12:06 pm

The Fat Fascist Fool seems to have a memory loss problem.

He appeared late yesterday, assuring “us lot” that only the Liberals had a problem with allegations of sexual assaults. After being reminded about the very many documented crimes and allegations against Labor figures (including reference to convictions for assaults against minors) he disappeared for a few hours. He then re-appeared this morning to start the whole process again.

Perhaps he just likes being reminded of the protection available to leftards involved in such incidents?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 12:08 pm

Barry Cable judgment: District Court Judge Mark Herron finds WA footy legend sexually abused young girl
The West Australian
Fri, 16 June 2023 9:40AM
Tim Clarke

Barry Cable — long heralded as one of Western Australia’s greatest ever sportsmen — did sexually abuse a young girl for years, according to a WA judge.

After decades of allegations, denials, suppressions, legal threats — and nearly five years of litigation — a judge today concluded that he believed that Cable persistently sexually abused the girl from the age of 12 into her adulthood.

District Court Judge Mark Herron found that Cable groomed and then persistently sexually abused the woman — and ordered Cable pay damages of $818,700.

As first revealed in The West Australian in 2019, the girl who lived close to the Cable family had lodged a writ, claiming she had been targeted and terrorised by the former North Melbourne rover over five years of her childhood.

The woman who grew from that girl sued Cable for damages, claiming the abuse at the hands of the Sandover and Simpson medallist left her “catastrophically damaged”.

But she had first gone to WA Police in 1998 with her allegations, detailing them in a long and harrowing statement — which became the centrepiece of her evidence in the civil trial earlier this year.

The abuse is said to have occurred in Mr Cable’s car, at his home, at bush locations where he used to drive, and at the swimming pool in Thornlie where he used to work. It also alleged it occurred when he played some of the best football of his storied sporting career.

“On 2 August 1971 the defendant took the plaintiff to the Perth Football Club in Lathlain,” the claim says.

When there, Mr Cable is alleged to have kissed the girl, pushed her against the wall, attempted to rape her on a bench, and then “struck the Plaintiff across the mouth as he was driving her home afterwards.”

She would have been 16 years old.

In her evidence she described how she was often alone with the star footballer in his home, in his car and his company — and he would abuse her at every chance he got — while telling her she was his “special girl”.

“Barry used to say it was our secret and that he was my coach and we weren’t hurting anyone and that I was a very lucky girl,” she said.

“It was always all about him getting what he wanted. I felt like I was programmed by Barry. I was worthless, a piece of meat, an object for his pleasure. I wished I was dead.”

In a written defence, first filed in April 2019, Cable issued strenuous denials to virtually every allegation. He also claimed that he had had a consensual sexual relationship with the woman when she had been in her late 20s.

But, he never appeared in person during the trial, didn’t give evidence and didn’t have a lawyer representing him — after declaring personal bankruptcy on the eve of the trial.

That meant he was not present to hear the testimony of four other women who claimed they were abused by him as children.

The second said her abuse began when she was 8, while saying Cable had been “shielded” from the public for years — while in private told he was seeking solace in the church.

Another described how she was molested in a spa while Cable was the coach of North Melbourne.

And two sisters then told Cable exposed himself to them frequently when they were 10 and 11 years of age, and also fondled them in a spa.

“He was a neighbour, but he was more than that … he was regarded as a sporting icon in this state,” barrister Tim Hammond said.

mem
mem
June 16, 2023 12:10 pm

Rogersays:
June 16, 2023 at 10:39 am
While in civil society we might want to give opposing folk a little tolerance…

Tolerance is so last century.

They now demand obeisance.

I was also thinking that the word “tolerance” has virtually disappeared out of the contemporary conversation. Perhaps because it doesn’t foster the divisive agenda currently being peddled by the left? Maybe because it is a Christian principle?

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 12:13 pm

“So Cranky, no response to Bettina Arndt’s shameful association with convicted rock spider Nicolaas Bester? You come at me with “pervert apologist” all the time but that is exactly what Arndt is, and so are you by defending this association.

It is always, always projection with you lot.”

Nope pervert apologist, she doesn’t have an “association with convicted rock spider Nicolaas Bester”.

Not that you ever had much credibility here, but you lost all credibility here a few months when you openly and unashamedly advocated for women. whose opinions you don’t like, be threatened, bashed and assaulted. In fact, I suspect you got off on it.

Pervert apologist, you’re a blackshirt, no wonder you vote for the blackshirt party….the Greens.

Talk about “projection”.

duncanm
duncanm
June 16, 2023 12:13 pm

m0nty says:
June 16, 2023 at 9:13 am

Specifically on the Posie Parker situation, I asked her whether she thought getting jostled and having tomato soup thrown at you constituted assault, she said yes. We will agree to disagree on that one. No court would convict.

as usual, you’d be wrong.

Tossing a litre of cold water over his partner helped land a Masterton man in hot water in Masterton District Court on Wednesday.

Hayden Oscar Polden, 25, unemployed, was convicted of assault on a female and sentenced to nine months’ supervision.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 12:15 pm

The pervert apologist likes to spend a lot of time here with “us lot”. I suspect he doesn’t have too many friends.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2023 12:18 pm

Further to the English abilities of 5th and 6th grade kids that CharlieP raised upthread, here’s a study today from LaTrobe.

Reading taught inconsistently in primary schools, finds Australian survey (Phys.org, 15 Jun)

A survey of 284 Australian primary school teachers looking at the strategies used to teach reading comprehension, reveals practices that are ad hoc, with little agreement in the Australian primary teaching community about how reading skills are taught.

According to lead co-author, Associate Professor Tanya Serry, despite recommendations about effective reading practices made by three national reviews undertaken in Australia, the U.S. and the U.K. since 2000, reading instruction in Australian classrooms is still highly contested.

The fun thing about this story is they are totally mystified. A whole article of complete waffle. But anyone with a brain knows what the problem really is: that phonics is seen as righty and the Left controls the schools. But they say nothing about that embarrassing elephant.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 12:22 pm

Dr F at 12:05.

In Good Hands.

You forgot to add …
Top men.
Or women.
Or those who identify as either.
Or not.

Aaron
Aaron
June 16, 2023 12:22 pm

Anybody found a female trans in male sport yet?

Hugh
Hugh
June 16, 2023 12:25 pm

I don’t think Miss Swift would be on vinyl.

Actually…

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 12:28 pm

areff says:
June 16, 2023 at 11:34 am
Tucker’s latest best yet. Am loving what he’s doing to Fox and what Fox is doing to itself.

That episode is a body blow to Fox. I hope he hires the producer they sacked.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 12:31 pm

But anyone with a brain knows what the problem really is: that phonics is seen as righty and the Left controls the schools. But they say nothing about that embarrassing elephant.

I’ve mentioned this before…I could read before I went to school. My mum taught me phonetically. It may not be a perfect system but it’s the best place to start. You soon learn about digraphs and idiosyncratic rules of grammar as you read widely. The newspaper was good for learning those. Of course, without a stay at home mum this wouldn’t have happened. I don’t know how children manage with “whole language” theory – evidently many don’t.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 12:33 pm

“Anybody found a female trans in male sport yet?”

Indeed…and anybody found a female trans in male sport that has beaten the biological males?

johanna
johanna
June 16, 2023 12:34 pm

On the other hand, they may be from the new generation of teachers who are themselves illiterate so they saw nothing wrong there.

That is the more likely explanation. I suspect we’re about 2 generations into basic illiteracy and it will grow

What a tragedy. Allegedly in the interests of students (ensuring that they don’t fail/feel bad/get bored yada yada) the dumbing down of school education has condemned generations of pupils to semi-literacy.

When I was in fourth class (average age 10 yrs) we had a roneoed, stapled handout from Mr Dawson of poetry and prose, which we worked our way through. It included prose from Joseph Conrad, poetry from Australians including everyone from Paterson to Slessor, short stories by Lawson, examples of different accents, and more.

I can still recite big slabs of it, more than half a century later.

I feel sorry for kids today, who are treated like morons with no capacity to appreciate beauty and quality. Because some of them can’t, the rest are denied the opportunity.

Mind you, their younger teachers come from the same miserable, defeatist tradition. Many are barely literate and numerate themselves, so are hardly likely to correct deficiencies in their pupils.

There are two important consequences of this catastrophe.

The first is the reversal of the trend in Western civilisation for the last 150 years or so whereby the benefits of education were expanded to include almost everyone.* This caused unprecedented social mobility, economic growth and cultural development.

The second is that there is now a very small elite who have received a good enough education, usually via rich parents, who are fit for the very top jobs. Sure, there are plenty of parasites in the middle where precision and accuracy don’t matter – see the diversity industry, the environmental industry, the MSM, etc etc. But the very top jobs belong to a tiny elite who are lucky enough to know the difference between ratios and percentages, or what a subject and predicate are in a sentence.

When I was growing up, the pool of people who knew that stuff was very much larger and broader.

*The first half of the C20th in the West was characterised by night schools, Schools of Arts and Science buildings in towns and suburbs offering avenues for self improvement, privately funded public libraries and so on. Both wealthy people and the rest agreed that education, including appreciation of culture, was a public and private good. But it was never a free-for-all about ‘affirming’ people’s feelings. It was about concrete achievement.

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 12:36 pm

Sorry Monty, Keen- Minshull has been charged with common assault and has a pretty darn good chance of being convicted.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 16, 2023 12:36 pm

Van Damned

Off to the naughty corner for you and don’t come back until you’re sorry.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 12:40 pm

Can someone tell me what Senator Van Damned was talking about when Thorpey interjected?
She made some remark about “can’t sit here listening to him talk about wymminses”.
Please don’t tell me they wheeled out Van Damned to lead the charge against Gallagher.
Would they be that stup … oh, sorry, forget I asked.

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 12:46 pm

I wasn’t a stay at home mum (only for a year, then six months or so on maternity leave, from first to fourth) but I was very actively involved in teaching my children to read, I took Margaret Mahy’s advice re priorities to heart.
I also worked part time when I could so I could help with primary school activities too.
I taught myself to read before I started school, my stay at home mother was too busy with younger siblings to do that kind of one on one.
All my children still read for pleasure, even my youngest tradie son who prefers non fiction.

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 12:53 pm

Many Asian parents, Chinese and Indian are extremely aspirational re children’s education which encourages a greater deal of competition in both private schools, selective entry high schools and certain high schools in Melbourne. I don’t know all of them but I do know a BIL rented a house (which stayed vacant) in the catchment for one local high school so his children could get in. He wasn’t the only one prepared to fork out several thousand dollars to get into high school of his choice.
Balywn High, Glen Waverley Secondary College are other examples of that.

shatterzzz
June 16, 2023 12:53 pm

He’s been disgraced, so he might as well snatch it, but he’s got a hide like a rhinoceros too.
The bloke is guaranteed $210K + freebies for the next 6 years to do nuttin’ ..
Dudzy’s got more chance of a dirty weekend in Biloela with Chlamydia than Van calling it quitz cos “it would be the honourable thing to do” .. FFS!

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 12:55 pm

Of my son in laws ethnic cohort woe betide the child that didn’t score a VCE score of 99.9.
99.7 was shame country.

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 12:58 pm

I remember reading a few years ago of a woman convicted of assault for throwing a pair of sunglasses at a another women over a parking space.
And an eighteen year old boy convicted of throwing an egg at a teacher on muck up day (which got him turned back at LA international airport).

shatterzzz
June 16, 2023 12:59 pm

GreyRangasays:
June 16, 2023 at 10:15 am

Just back from bike riding and scrolling ….. definite 12/10 ……. wellsaid!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 16, 2023 1:01 pm

Not finished episode yet but first 20 minutes interesting.

Timcast IRL – Matt Walsh Drops HUGE Expose On Fox News FORCING Pride On Staff

shatterzzz
June 16, 2023 1:04 pm

As a Senator installed by and of the Greens (but no longer) Thorpe’s time as a Senator is finished at the next election.

Shirley, she still has 6 years left so not a bad earner, regardless ….. If I remember, correctly, tho a Greens replacement earlier she was still up for re-election last time around ….

shatterzzz
June 16, 2023 1:07 pm

One of the funniest moments was when the group from a different class who had chosen a solar energy project told us that their model house should have lights on but because the sun wasn’t shining their system wasn’t working.

The turtle’s office called .. they have several vacancies for six figure advisors available ..
apply now .. LOL!

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 1:08 pm

“Sorry Monty, Keen- Minshull has been charged with common assault and has a pretty darn good chance of being convicted.”

Umm yes, but I think you meant to write that the cock in a frock who threw the tomato sauce over Minshull in Auckland has been charged.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 1:08 pm

The problem with the liberal view of Jesus is its poverty.

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”

? H. Richard Niebuhr

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
June 16, 2023 1:10 pm

Seriously – the alelgation against a Liberal Male pollie – same shit differnet toilet.

As Gomer Pyle says ‘Surprise Surprise Surprise”

Not knowing the facts but I wish Duttom would make a stand and continue on the trsut agaisnt Gallagher Wong Luigi the Unbeleivable etc.

Bring them all down.

This is shit and the perversity is extreme.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 1:11 pm

By the way, there were other women physically assaulted in that Auckland Park that awful day. They were supporting Kellie-Jay and were direct and immediate targets of the frenzied mob. One women was punched.

It’s very telling that Keen has said that she only felt safe when she arrived in Dubai after leaving NZ.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 1:12 pm

“Top Endersays:
June 16, 2023 at 12:44 pm
Three weeks before Amanda Stoker went public with groping allegations against Senator David Van, she invited him on her Sky News TV show…”

Thanks TE…I knew I’d seen Van Damned on Sky recently.

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 1:12 pm

Hzh I remember my oldest daughter telling me a teacher at her school had said the same.
I scoffed, asking how many people in the world were yet to have access to electricity let alone computers.
And the way things are going that lack of access will include most of the so called first world.
And ss the price of electricity climbs people will start thinking about not running four TV’s in the house simultaneously.
I’m reading more paper books, if for no other reason that to reduce my electricity bill.
Have to say one plus of visiting Canberra is the abundance of little street libraries and a very comfortable and well stocked free book exchange at the local shopping centre.

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 1:14 pm

You are correct Cassie Eli Rubashkyn is the name.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 1:15 pm

This Poem seems quite appropriate to these days of Craziness going on all around us –

“If” by Rudyard Kipling

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 1:16 pm
MatrixTransform
June 16, 2023 1:18 pm

Figures, why are you bringing Fatboy’s spouse into your comment?

this from JC …. really?

does this mean he’s going to lay off doling out pointed personal abuse at other commentators and their familie ?

of course not … it’s just more wank

another day of supercilious bullshit from JC, mUnty, and sancho

shatterzzz
June 16, 2023 1:21 pm

Thorpe would need to have more than her say so for anyone to believe anything that comes out of her mouth. She’s made that bed, no one else. Stoker should know this, she is doing no one any favours by pretending an arse pinch is evidence of serial sexual harassment.

Reality is 2023 is post BAT FLU dayz .. proof is sooooo 2019-ish ,, anything after 2020 BAT FLU beginnings only requires the accusation to be made to be accepted as proof of guilt …….

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 1:23 pm

Roger at 12.04pm

I was going to reply to mOnster, but you summed up the heart of Christianity beautifully. Great stuff.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 1:24 pm

The first is the reversal of the trend in Western civilisation for the last 150 years or so whereby the benefits of education were expanded to include almost everyone.* This caused unprecedented social mobility, economic growth and cultural development.
The second is that there is now a very small elite who have received a good enough education, usually via rich parents, who are fit for the very top jobs.

Johanna, that’s why the elite schools are so expensive, to make sure only the right people can afford to send their kids there. This has been the case for at least two decades but the effects are wearing off. They may have received a better education but they are still just as stupid. Look at the Anheuser Busch debacle in the US, followed by Target, Disney et al. These companies are run by the children of the elite who will eventually crash the world economy but they will still be OK while everyone else suffers.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 1:24 pm

The first half of the C20th in the West was characterised by night schools, Schools of Arts and Science buildings in towns and suburbs offering avenues for self improvement, privately funded public libraries and so on.

And it was an article of faith among the left that education and achievement/improvement were a social good.
Unions used to have educational facilities and classes for its members.
Now it seems the hollow skinsuit version only survives. Instead of education you attend a uni to emerge with a qualification, sometimes with poor underlying knowledge.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 1:28 pm

Top Endersays:

June 16, 2023 at 12:44 pm

Three weeks before Amanda Stoker went public with groping allegations against Senator David Van, she invited him on her Sky News TV show…

Look, I am not a fan of Stroker by any means, but I kind of understand that to a point.
It is possible that, up until yesterday, she thought her interaction with Van Damned was a one-off, or at least the last in a series and he had learned his lesson.
As of yesterday, she probably now thinks the apology was an “NRL sorry, not really sorry”, apology, and feels like he duped her.
I am a little disappointed in Stroker, but I assign primary responsibility for this shit-show to Van Damned.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 1:29 pm

another day of supercilious bullshit from JC, mUnty, and sancho

I’ll take that as a comment.
You’re welcome.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 1:32 pm

Louis Litt says:
June 16, 2023 at 1:10 pm
Not knowing the facts but I wish Duttom would make a stand and continue on the trsut agaisnt Gallagher Wong Luigi the Unbeleivable etc.

Bring them all down.

Dutton is not the man for the job. By the time he has made up his mind the caravan had moved on.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 16, 2023 1:33 pm

Thorpe is unhinged now but has a long time before must contest her Senate seat again.

But how will she go if (and, pray) the Voice fails?

I can see her lashing out madly even against the people who, to whatever degree, support her. In fact the only real support she may end up with is a small number of hard core lunatic voters who never actually have to meet her, but who shower the Teh Gruniad with comments like the abyssal snow at the bottom of the Marianas trench, made from disintegrated tissues or excreta from the layers above and which sustains a host of blind freakish, alien creatures.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 1:35 pm

Top Ender says:
June 16, 2023 at 12:44 pm
Three weeks before Amanda Stoker went public with groping allegations against Senator David Van, she invited him on her Sky News TV show…

What a fraud? Didn’t she think anyone would remember? I wonder if any there is a journalist who will ask her an uncomfortable question.

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 1:36 pm

A couple of ACT police approached us with stickers and offered my 3 year granddaughter and her cousin the opportunity to sit in their police car.
They won’t do that again.
Not after my granddaughter turned on the police siren about six times.

shatterzzz
June 16, 2023 1:39 pm

Dutton is not the man for the job. By the time he has made up his mind the caravan had moved on.

This is the big problem .. Dudzy isn’t up to Liberal leadership but he’s still a street ahead of anybody else they have ……. Luigi & co know this and act accordingly …. the Liars can do anything they like without fear of realistic opposition ……..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 1:40 pm

Remember.
The Liberals relegated Jim Molan to fourth on their NSW Senate ticket, but handed Van Damned the #3 spot in Vic in 2019.
The argument was that they didn’t think they would win three quotas.
FMD.
One of the two major parties doesn’t consider the possibility of winning 3 out of 6 spots?
Or is this part of the cutting loose of Van Damned?

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 1:42 pm

Most elite schools in Victoria have academic scholarship programmes, my cynical view is this is probably to help maintain high ENTER scores that would otherwise by dragged down by the dumb children from old money families who get in under father son rules.
Not to mention music and sports scholarships.
Some also have scholarship programmes for aboriginal children.

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