Open Thread – Tues 13 June 2023


The Death of King Arthur, James Archer, 1860

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Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2023 7:18 pm

Dr. John Campbell

Young excess deaths

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 15, 2023 7:19 pm

The Vanster coulda made friends with Thorpey.
I wouldn’t think it would be all that difficult.
Jacqui Lambie, that might be a different story.
Making growling dog noises while she was speaking, that’s just poking the bear.

Crossie
Crossie
June 15, 2023 7:19 pm

calli says:
June 15, 2023 at 7:03 pm
Oh, and I got welcomed to country too in Brissie. From what the hostie said, the elders past present and emerging could fly.

Are they aware how silly it all sounds?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Are they aware how silly it all sounds?

Yes.
On a recent flight, as soon as we touched down one of the hosties read it out in one big long breath. She sounded very procedural about it.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 15, 2023 7:27 pm

Regarding the Distraction Squirrels versus the serious shenanigans, and 15-minute cities specifically.

When you go driving in suburban areas, speed limits are usually 50km/h. You’ll maybe spend 90% time driving and 10% stopped at lights. That’s an average of 45km/h. Travel for 15 minutes and that is a radius of 11.25km.
Is it more than a random co-incidence that during lockdown you were not allowed to exercise more than 10km from your home? Almost like it was a test run.

I used to laugh off the whole “plandemic” conspiracy theory (a phrase I use here in its original legal sense). I could grant the Big Pharma “scamdemic” theory had legs but the WEF “plandemic” was going a bit too far.
Well, now, I’m not so sure. Any more amazing co-incidences that people have found between WEF stated plans and totally-unplanned-accidental-emergencies?

Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2023 7:28 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2023 7:30 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 15, 2023 7:30 pm

Are they aware how silly it all sounds?

Don’t worry, after we knock back the voice, maddened aborigines will deprive us of it. We were promised.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2023 7:33 pm

Don’t worry, after we knock back the voice, maddened aborigines will deprive us of it. We were promised.

I’ll be devastated at not being welcomed to country. Utterly devastated.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 15, 2023 7:35 pm

Funeral held for Silvio Berlusconi in Italy

I expect there was plenty of room for the girls in the jacuzzi-shaped coffin.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Indolent says: June 15, 2023 at 7:24 pm
British couple who uprooted their family to move to Australia eight years ago will be kicked out of the country because they’re ‘too old’ to get residency at the ages of 50 and 57 after visa rules were changed

Clueless bimbo j’ismist.
1/. The article does not mention which visa rule has changed. This may be because the relevant rule has not changed. However more likely is the bimbo j’ismist possesses insufficient attention span to investigate.

2/. If what is in the article is true, the one of the family members has breached the terms of their visa. This is not mentioned, probably because the bimbo j’ismist possesses insufficient ability to perform due diligence on a story.

The j’ismist is: female [check], named Jade [check], the immediate past 200 articles she’s written are this exact same type of non-news guff.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 15, 2023 7:36 pm

It’s a #metoo Tsunami!
Anyone notice a pattern here?

Yah. I thought Dutton’s response was due to the “Liberal’s women problem”.
Which renders them totally defenseless to mean wymminses.
Propaganda works.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2023 7:37 pm

Dutton’s first action on the next sitting day should be to seek leave to make a statement to the House. In that statement he should move that the Speaker ask the President of the Senate to require from Senator Thorpe a full list of all Senators and MHRs whom she alleges have assaulted her, verbally, physically and sexually.

She should also be required to provide a list of all MPs and Parliament House staff whom she claims witnessed any of these events. The President of the Senate and the Speaker, as the Presiding Officers, must then refer the lists to the AFP.

He should conclude by referring to the claims made by Mizzz Knickerless, and her claims to not have received proper support, and emphasise that the alleged incidents must be fully investigated, and any necessary support be provided to Senator Thorpe, so that future claims of inadequate support cannot be made.

In the hushed silence that follows, watch who keeps their head down.

Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2023 7:40 pm
cohenite
June 15, 2023 7:41 pm

I don’t know, I couldn’t count the times some bint has squeezed my taut arse or fondled my lumpy groin.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 15, 2023 7:41 pm

Anyone notice a pattern here?

The lack of contemporaneous reporting invites adverse inferences. To give Stoker the benefit of the doubt, she may have done so with no action made public at the time. I’m not sure I would do the same for Brittany (or Dave).

Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2023 7:45 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2023 7:46 pm

m0ntysays:
June 15, 2023 at 6:35 pm
Former Lib Senator Amanda Stoker just released a statement detailing a sexual assault by David Van in November 2020. Couple of bum pinches.

No doubt this is not the last incident that will come out. Why do Liberal politicians (and staffers) keep committing sexual assault?

Bearing in mind who Thorpe is, what makes you think that her alleged abusers are all Liberals? We need her to provide a full list, on oath.

Pogria
Pogria
June 15, 2023 7:46 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
June 15, 2023 at 7:14 pm
There has been far more Labor politicians and “staffers” who’ve been charged and convicted of sexual assault. Far more.

Also, an abnormally large percentage of them have had proclivities for the under-aged.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2023 7:48 pm

Dotsays:
June 15, 2023 at 6:37 pm
Why do Liberal politicians (and staffers) keep committing sexual assault?

People are watching your comments monty. We know you would want this blog shut down. If anything bad happens, I hope you are thrown under a proverbial bus.

The fat fascist fool is cranky with this blog because it is far more successful that his Phat Pussy blog, where the tumbleweeds blow.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 15, 2023 7:48 pm

Wow.
The chap who directed The Road is going to direct Blood Meridian.
Talk about pressure, now the great man is dead.

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2023 7:49 pm

“Also, an abnormally large percentage of them have had proclivities for the under-aged.”

Correct.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 15, 2023 7:50 pm

Van Man is big on Gender Issues, according to his site:

During his time in the Senate, David has spoken in Chambers extensively on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade, Energy and the Environment. He is a vocal advocate on gender issues, Australia-Israeli ties and small business.

Wokester.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 15, 2023 7:53 pm

Basically, the left in the USA is now trying harder and harder to provoke a violent response from the citizens on the right.
That’s so they can move right along to martial law. Not sure how good the rainbow people in the military are at containing a real insurrection rather than just dealing with an erection.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 15, 2023 7:53 pm

Bearing in mind who Thorpe is, what makes you think that her alleged abusers are all Liberals? We need her to provide a full list, on oath.

Give it up, Skidmark, the Van has left the building.
I repeat,
The Van has left the building.

Rabz
June 15, 2023 7:53 pm

Is it more than a random co-incidence that during lockdown you were not allowed to exercise more than 10km from your home? Almost like it was a test run.

Colonel, I was discussing this with Gilas on Sunday evening and we came to exactly the same conclusion.

Jorge
Jorge
June 15, 2023 7:54 pm

Look, go easy on Lydia. She was auditioning for the new game show built on accusations of sexual harassment against Liberal pollies, Brittanee’s Got Talent.
Silvio Bersculoni had been booked as a judge. What a pity.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 15, 2023 8:01 pm

https://thechillitblog.com/index.php/2023/05/11/murder-of-australian-journalist-ean-higgins/

At this time, the claim that Ean Higgins was murdered in Port Moresby should be unsubstantiated, as is every other possibility that has come to the fore. [….]
But in a sense, this uncertainty adds weight to the possibility that Higgins was murdered for his role in casting doubt on the Canberra government’s ability to mount a responsible, informed search for MH370.

Throw mud, eat a club?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 15, 2023 8:04 pm

Give it up, Skidmark, the Van has left the building.

Dr Groogarly heal thyself.

cohenite
June 15, 2023 8:07 pm

Indolentsays:
June 15, 2023 at 7:46 pm
IN-DEPTH: Trump Indictment Rests on Untested Legal Theory, Experts Say

Very good summary. In a just world Jack Smith would be gutted and everyone else connected to this charade eviscerated. But it’s not a just world although I note even the left wing media is conceding Trump has many defensive avenues: Multiple defenses open to Trump in classified documents case

Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2023 8:16 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 8:17 pm

Dotsays:

June 15, 2023 at 6:22 pm

Why else do you think Thorpe is only making these allegations in the Senate?

I was under the impression she said some of her later statements outside of Parliament.

Nup.
Tethered to the red leather all the time.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 15, 2023 8:20 pm

Rabz revealed:

Colonel, I was discussing this with Gilas on Sunday evening and we came to exactly the same conclusion.

Oh great. Juuuust great. Ya just had to say it didn’t you.
So now in a basement in Canberra there is a record of a CatallaxyFiles Far Right Extremist Terrorist Cell with 2 now with 3 members in it, and growing at 50% per year.
As if I wasn’t getting enough performance pressure already.
So what’s your training regimen? Dawn service to Hayek. PE at 7am. Online Insult training at 9am. Anything-other-than-a-latte break at 10. Then Truth Bomb construction thru to lunchtime?
Lucky for me ASIO already know that I’m all talk and no action. Hi spooks!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 8:25 pm

Why do Liberal politicians (and staffers) keep committing sexual assault?

To be fair, m0nster, the bottoms they tend to pinch are not attached to children.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 15, 2023 8:25 pm

Here in Marybrook got resident white-tailed black cockatoos- no, not the fancy Baudin’s Blacks or Carnaby’s, just the good OG mob. For a few years I religiously noted their appearance, altitude, amplitude and number in order to see if they indeed could be used to forecast rainfall- nup, no correlation much at all.
My rule of thumb now is if you can hear them, it’s going to rain, if you can’t, then it is already raining.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 15, 2023 8:28 pm

Tethered to the red leather all the time.

Safest place to be. Pays well too.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 8:30 pm

I’m betting Labor knew of these allegations and got Thorpe to make false claims. Labor finding even lower bottom of barrels than ever before.

I suspect something like that went on.
Van got a bit handsy with Stoker.
The story got around Parliament House.
Thorpe put a non-descript “uncomfortable” complaint in the bank at the time.
She cashed that cheque today.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2023 8:31 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 15, 2023 at 7:53 pm
Bearing in mind who Thorpe is, what makes you think that her alleged abusers are all Liberals? We need her to provide a full list, on oath.

Give it up, Skidmark, the Van has left the building.
I repeat,
The Van has left the building.

No, the Van is still in the building, sitting near Thorpe on the Senate cross-bench.

PS, I’d assume you wear a jockstrap to avoid that problem, except, as is well known, you have neither dick nor testicles to put in one.

Muddy
Muddy
June 15, 2023 8:34 pm

Indolent says:
June 15, 2023 at 7:28 pm

Link to 1984 online.

Thanks for that.
I have a vague recollection of reading the novel in school, but I may be thinking of either Animal Farm or A Brave New World. I have the first series of a modern adaptation of the latter on DVD somewhere.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 15, 2023 8:35 pm

Old Nyoongar name is wargiar. Also heard ngarlook, which I think is from further north, but chimes in with the -ook suffix which accompanies many birds.
Red-tailed blacks come and go, ie over decades. I remember them from when I was a kid, then we didn’t hear them for a few decades really, now they’ve been back for a few years. Went scouting for firewood in old jarrah bush and adjacent pine plantation, and they are thrashing the pines…
Local bloke has named them karak, which is bogus, he’s all but admitted to making it up. Any WA Cats know any old WA names?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 8:37 pm

Sorry, but who sponsors this Van character?
Not like he has set the fkn world on fire.
They knew about the Stoker-Groper matter, yet they took him to an election in the midst of the Britnah thing.
They must have known this would come back to bite them on the arse.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 15, 2023 8:40 pm

BREAKING: Nadine Dorries Is Bringing Down Rishi Sunak

The Tories are like our Libs. Both have a total death wish.

Victorian Coalition faces slump in polls (Sky News, 15 Jun)

The Victorian Coalition is facing a difficult time ahead of the crucial Warrandyte by-election. Polling conducted by Resolve Strategic has John Pesutto’s Liberals 15 points behind the Dan Andrews led Labor. The Coalition’s primary vote had fallen from 30 per cent to 26 per cent since April.

Primary vote of 26%? I suspect half of those people have pegs on their noses also.
Maybe try something different guys. Being Labor Lite doesn’t appear to be working.

Dot
Dot
June 15, 2023 8:41 pm

Boambee John says:
June 15, 2023 at 7:37 pm

Correct.

Muddy
Muddy
June 15, 2023 8:44 pm

Don’t worry, after we knock back the voice, maddened aborigines will deprive us of it. We were promised.

I’m confident the taxpayer would (unwillingly/unknowingly) FUND indigenous-only militia – on account of the severe physical threat to life ‘n all that – but I’m not sure how many volunteers they’d get? Conscription?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 8:46 pm

Prior to entering politics, Van was the managing director of South Melbourne public relations firm the De Wintern Group since 2003 where he advised clients on Royal Commissions and other Government inquiries. He was a board director of the Australian Association of Franchisees. A St Kilda resident, he was also the co-convenor of neighbourhood group Friends of St Kilda Hill, which was outspoken about crime and safety, specifically in relation to the Gatwick Hotel boarding house and public housing.

Van holds a Masters degree in International Relations from Monash University.

Right.
Another grifter who has never had a real job.

Dot
Dot
June 15, 2023 8:46 pm

Tethered to the red leather all the time.

So she retracted her statements then made some even more fanciful ones entered into Hansard?

My god, Dutton could still get a scalp out of this. I reckon no one put her up to it. She just wants constant publicity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 8:47 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

June 15, 2023 at 7:14 pm

There has been far more Labor politicians and “staffers” who’ve been charged and convicted of sexual assault. Far more.

Their hit rate with minors is far, far higher too.

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2023 8:49 pm

The fruits of feminism……

Men competing in women’s sport
Cocks in frocks in women only bathrooms
Instead of slapping a sleazy man who smacks, touches or pinches a bottom, we women now wail, cry and scream…………I’m a victim.

So much for female empowerment. What a joke. Women in the west in 2023 are an insult to those strong women who came before us.

Time to rename Helen Reddy’s song….

I am victim, hear me sob

johanna
johanna
June 15, 2023 8:50 pm

I find this whole phenomenon of women resurrecting alleged sexual assaults years later, at times when ‘a tide in the events of men’ is running the right way, malicious, unprincipled and cynical.

If this Van chap was a groper for years, why did nobody nip it in the bud long ago? Why wait till now to get a headline? Either he is innocent, or is a low level pest who could easily have been dealt with if a few women tipped the wink to the leadership. The leadership would realise the consequences of private complaints becoming public.

It’s all so phony, so theatrical, so staged – and that encompasses Britanny, Lidia and the worms coming out of the woodwork about Van.

Bad luck for genuine sexual assault victims, like the Aboriginal women being violated with sticks and broken bottles.

An unwanted pinch or pat on some portion of the anatomy at a function or in Parly House in Canberra hardly rates.

I suppose this is what is meant by a ‘microagression.’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 8:50 pm

Dotsays:

June 15, 2023 at 8:46 pm

Tethered to the red leather all the time.

So she retracted her statements then made some even more fanciful ones entered into Hansard?

My god, Dutton could still get a scalp out of this. I reckon no one put her up to it. She just wants constant publicity.

No.
No he won’t.
Actually, it is a rat-cunning tactic to defeat standing orders.
1. Name someone.
2. Withdraw.
3. Make another statement along similar lines to 1. but don’t name names (wink, nudge).

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2023 8:55 pm

So much for female empowerment. What a joke. Women in the west in 2023 are an insult to those strong women who came before us.

Well said!. I’m remembering the oaf who smacked a female Reserve soldier on the buttocks, made an obscene suggestion, and was beaten to a pulp by one of her colleagues…

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 15, 2023 8:56 pm

I see those black cockies with red tails all the time in the Shoalhaven. We have Casuarinas all round. I wouldn’t call them small though. Yesterday a magpie was giving a hurryup to a sea eagle.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2023 8:59 pm

Sancho

See my comment at 1937. Dutton can get on the front foot in both the Knickerless and Lydia matters.

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2023 8:59 pm

“johannasays:
June 15, 2023 at 8:50 pm”

I think you’ve said it best.

Crossie
Crossie
June 15, 2023 9:01 pm

Chris Kenny is a fan of Andrew Probyn, no surprise there. I am sick and tired of supposedly conservatives media people idolising their ABC counterparts.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 15, 2023 9:01 pm

They knew about the Stoker-Groper matter, yet they took him to an election in the midst of the Britnah thing.
They must have known this would come back to bite them on the arse.

Wrong.
Van was elected in 2019 to a 6 year Term.
He seems to be a bit of an old school noblesee oblige type as far as Aussie sheilas are concerned.
Any idea of his origins, Sancho?

Muddy
Muddy
June 15, 2023 9:02 pm

Colonel Crispin Berka says:
June 15, 2023 at 8:01 pm

https://thechillitblog.com/index.php/2023/05/11/murder-of-australian-journalist-ean-higgins/

At this time, the claim that Ean Higgins was murdered in Port Moresby should be unsubstantiated, as is every other possibility that has come to the fore. [….]
But in a sense, this uncertainty adds weight to the possibility that Higgins was murdered for his role in casting doubt on the Canberra government’s ability to mount a responsible, informed search for MH370.

Huh.
Dunno what to make of it, but … interesting.

shatterzzz
June 15, 2023 9:04 pm

The two headline ‘best sellers’ they advertised were – wait for it – Michelle Obummer’s memoirs and Ranga Harry’s self-pitying weepie, Spare!

Haven’t seen any copies of “Spare” around but Michael’s book (H/C) is a regular $2 offer in the op shops

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 15, 2023 9:04 pm

We have to meet in a basement so ASIO don’t get us mixed up with the garage nasties. Hi Mike. Found your arse yet.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 9:06 pm

Indolent says: June 15, 2023 at 7:24 pm
British couple who uprooted their family to move to Australia eight years ago will be kicked out of the country because they’re ‘too old’ to get residency at the ages of 50 and 57 after visa rules were changed

And what if they were a Sri Lankan couple?
Or a Somali couple?

Crossie
Crossie
June 15, 2023 9:09 pm

For once Paul Murray is right, he asks what about all those 50+ Labor women who complained about being sexually abused by those in their party’s parliamentary ranks. Yes, where are they? Why aren’t they coming forward?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2023 9:11 pm

Posted before on the situation of one of the local “indigenous” youths. He’s decided he doesn’t want to be a “blakfella” – in and out of gaol, and living on the dole, like most of his relatives. He wants to be a “whitefella” – finish school, get a job and earn a wage. The community has done a bit of “mentoring” – he’s part of the cadet unit at school, and was asking about joining the A.D.F. Couple of the “old and the bold” sat him down, and had a talk to him.

His useless pisswreck of a mother is buying him marijuana,on the basis that she thinks smoking weed with her son is a very companionable thing to do……What the fvck do you do?

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 15, 2023 9:14 pm

Gang-gang Cockatoos are grey-black with a red crest. Galah sized. Common in Canberra and the Alps.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 15, 2023 9:18 pm

Actually, it is a rat-cunning tactic to defeat standing orders.
1. Name someone.
2. Withdraw.
3. Make another statement along similar lines to 1. but don’t name names (wink, nudge).

It is staggering to imagine that ocean going idiot having enough intelligence to make that happen. Is it too outrageous to suggest she has been ‘mentored’ by a senior government senator?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2023 9:20 pm

The local school has a policy that, if you want to go to the High School prom, you have to show that you have attended school regularly. The locals organized the lad with a hired suit, and a taxi to collect he and his girlfriend, and take them to the prom…Country towns…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 9:21 pm

Boambee Johnsays:

June 15, 2023 at 8:59 pm

Sancho

See my comment at 1937. Dutton can get on the front foot in both the Knickerless and Lydia matters.

I saw that and totally agree that it would be tactically very smart.
So it won’t happen.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2023 9:21 pm

Crossiesays:
June 15, 2023 at 9:09 pm
For once Paul Murray is right, he asks what about all those 50+ Labor women who complained about being sexually abused by those in their party’s parliamentary ranks. Yes, where are they? Why aren’t they coming forward?

Ask the fat fascist fool?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Sancho Panzer says: June 15, 2023 at 9:06 pm

British couple who uprooted their family to move to Australia eight years ago will be kicked out of the country because they’re ‘too old’ to get residency at the ages of 50 and 57 after visa rules were changed

And what if they were a Sri Lankan couple?
Or a Somali couple?

He was on an employer-sponsored skilled temporary entry business visa.
If a Somali was on such a visa, they’d be subject to the same rules – i.e. would be repatriated.

However; Rules have not been changed, & one of the family has breached visa conditions.
On their own, these don’t mean much, as the Immigration dept isn’t all that sharp at their own game.

johanna
johanna
June 15, 2023 9:30 pm

The alarmists claiming that snow is a thing of the past have to postpone their doom-laden predictions for another year:

Ski lifts will start to spin at Victorian alpine ski resorts on Friday following generous dumpings of snow this week.

Mount Hotham is enjoying a 33-centimetre snow base, while storms have delivered 36cm at Falls Creek.

The resorts were unable to operate their ski lifts during their King’s Birthday long weekend opening due to lack of snow.

Mount Buller’s lift were in operation, but relied heavily on snow machines.

Mount Hotham’s general manager of operations, Len Dobell, said with significant snow falling over the past week, the team had been hard at work getting the mountain “ready to spin lifts.”

“We can’t wait to welcome guests back for another great season,” he said.

No wonder alarmists are seeking treatment for their mental health. The Arctic and Antarctic remain stubbornly frozen, there are massive snowpacks above California, and even Australia’s soggiest snow resorts are open for business.

Unfortunately, when the next drought cycle comes – as it will – we will have to go through the same BS all over again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2023 9:34 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all on the Cat.

“Selling Hitler” makes interesting reading. There were, by 1980, over seventy biographies of Hitler in existence – twice as many as there are of Winston Churchill, and three times as many of Roosevelt and Stalin. Only Jesus Christ has had more words dedicated to him.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Wow, some cognitive dissonance on Twitter! Donald Trump, indisputably the most anti-war president of recent times, is being framed by some kangaroo court. The people most overjoyed are those who are vehemently anti-war.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 15, 2023 9:44 pm

If this Van chap was a groper for years, why did nobody nip it in the bud long ago? Why wait till now to get a headline?

My guess is that it was one of those sleeping insurance policies the left keep to break open at an opportune time, I’m guessing Albo is spewing it needed to be used 18 months out from an election.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 15, 2023 9:44 pm

Finished castles of steel.
Quite a good read on ww1 naval history.
Apparently Tirpitz had one criteria in his ship designs. “ a ships duty is to stay afloat”

Also the battle of Cornell is awful, nearly an entire Pom naval group wiped out. No survivors from any of the thousands on the sunk ships.

Muddy
Muddy
June 15, 2023 9:46 pm

Zulu.
Tough one about the indig kid.
Sometimes we’re forced to become ‘big men’ before we’re ready, and be responsible adults to the adults in our life who cannot or will not, perform their role; being a ‘cycle breaker’. It’s a lot to ask some young thing who may feel he’s being pulled in several directions, and risk potentially losing family. While only knowing what you’ve told us, the fact he’s shown a desire to explore his options and opportunities seems like he might have a little extra maturity. I’d empathise with him and tell him you wouldn’t want to be facing the choices he is, but you admire him for even getting to this point of decision.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2023 9:52 pm

No survivors from any of the thousands on the sunk ships.

The Brits got their revenge at the Battle of the Falkland Islands, some weeks later – two German cruisers, sunk with almost all hands.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2023 9:56 pm

I’d empathise with him and tell him you wouldn’t want to be facing the choices he is, but you admire him for even getting to this point of decision.

Thanks for that one, Muddy. Much obliged.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 15, 2023 9:57 pm

Grey Ranga spat:

Hi Mike. Found your arse yet.

Hey now. That is going too far.
Insulting the head of the organisation by their personal name is inappropriate.
If you dumped that guy they’d instantly be replaced by someone else, with similar organisational output.
Especially when they are excellent at finding people. Credit where it’s due.
Play the ball, not the man.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2023 9:59 pm

My guess is that it was one of those sleeping insurance policies the left keep to break open at an opportune time, I’m guessing Albo is spewing it needed to be used 18 months out from an election.

Correct.
Rumours would have been circulating and I think Thorpey put a little vague accusation in the bank.
I don’t think the double-fake with standing orders was pre-planned, but it was definitely work-shopped overnight to return with the “no names” wink-nudge reprise of yesterday’s outburst.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2023 10:06 pm

From the Hun.

Transition planning has started for potential handover from Daniel Andrews to Jacinta Allan

The transition to Victoria’s next Premier is underway as speculation mounts that Daniel Andrews’ successor may take over at a moment’s notice.

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 15, 2023 10:09 pm

Boambee John> Great idea @ 7:37. Attack is the best form of defence …

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2023 10:10 pm

Also the battle of Cornell is awful, nearly an entire Pom naval group wiped out. No survivors from any of the thousands on the sunk ships.

There’s a memorial to those men in the cathedral, at York, in the U.K. The attendant found it curious that a West Australia wheat farmer had heard of Christopher Cradock, and those losses.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 15, 2023 10:14 pm

Indolent says:
June 15, 2023 at 6:53 pm

Glad I’d eaten before I watched that.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 15, 2023 10:22 pm

Wrong berka. This is the wanker thats busy looking for garage nasties as a priority stated in his senate estimates statement 18 months ago. Where was he when the melbourne coppers son showed up as a garage nasty at the womens rally a month ago. Is ASIO still lost in the Grampians. Political bullshit artists R’ Us is a better name.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 15, 2023 10:23 pm

For Calli:

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 15, 2023 10:25 pm

That was to add to her collection, just in case anyone thought otherwise.

shatterzzz
June 15, 2023 10:27 pm

And what if they were a Sri Lankan couple?

Flee to Biloela & claim refugee status ……. !

Megan
Megan
June 15, 2023 10:28 pm

Thanks Bruce. We often get the yellow tailed Black Parrots at our place. I can often identify them without seeing them by the sounds they make when they get stuck into the gum nuts in the massive and mutant mountain ash next door.

On reflection I don’t think the group I saw this afternoon were cockatoos. They were definitely black, bigger than a Rosella but about half the size of a standard cocky.

More work on birds of the Hunter region required, when I have time.

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

johanna
johanna
June 15, 2023 10:28 pm

shatterzzz says:
June 15, 2023 at 9:04 pm

The two headline ‘best sellers’ they advertised were – wait for it – Michelle Obummer’s memoirs and Ranga Harry’s self-pitying weepie, Spare!

Haven’t seen any copies of “Spare” around but Michael’s book (H/C) is a regular $2 offer in the op shops
2

Good point.

The shelves of op shops are an informative guide to readership habits. For example, there are always numerous copies of books by authors like Danielle Steele, and shelves of romance novels.

You rarely find an Ian Fleming, an Agatha Christie or a Robert G Barret.

But now and then you do. I think that some deceased estates or people going into retirement homes donate books, and there are some good finds. Not that I’m likely to find a James Ellroy. But, I’ve found things like compilations of Jeremy Clarkson’s columns, Murray Walker’s and Billy Thorpe’s autobiographies, an original Inspector Morse novel. To name a few. At $2 to $4 each.

Much more interesting, and far cheaper, than any chain bookstore.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 15, 2023 10:40 pm

Cradock was placed in an awful position.
His ships and crews were 3rd rate and the “ battleship” that was supposed to be the core of his force was so crap they ended up beaching it as a fixed defence at the Falklands.

Lot of navy high command stuff ups as well, with Cradock acting in the best traditions of Nelson but knowing realisticly the best befouls hope for was to cause enough damage to slow them down for a proper task force to smash.
They even crewed the ship’s partially with naval cadets.

Megan
Megan
June 15, 2023 10:45 pm

For once Paul Murray is right, he asks what about all those 50+ Labor women who complained about being sexually abused by those in their party’s parliamentary ranks. Yes, where are they? Why aren’t they coming forward?

Ah yes, the powerful, mighty fierce women of either party are too simpering, pathetic or cowardly to stand up to these alleged abusers. If you’re in a public place such a creep can be easily and loudly humiliated. Maybe trickier if you’re alone when alleged abuser is trying it on. But surely, SURELY, any woman with an ounce of sense would report it immediately, record any ensuing conversation on their mobile, or take steps to report it to HR or their senior immediately to make them cease and desist.
Why, oh, why do these excuses for fierce girl boss, power babe’s wait 3 freaking years or more to out these blokes? They’ve entered, survived and mostly thrived in one of the toughest work environments in the world, politics, yet they don’t have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to an idiot jerk of this kind?

It means I don’t believe them. Report immediately or file it under Do Better Next Time.

Sigh.

Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2023 10:46 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2023 10:50 pm

Mr Panzer at 11.53, and apropos of wallet thieves in footy sheds:

We used to play with a bloke who was never upset if taken off at 3/4 time.
“Gee. $80. I could have sworn I had $100.”
Eventually caught.

Yep.

We had one of those 50-year ‘trainers’ who used to come round before the game, as you were getting changed with one of those calico ANZ bank bags. All the wallets went in them.

Never any problem is all those years. Mind you -had there been ‘lost’ wallet and/or cash drama, the club in the town I lived in and played for would have looked upon that very dimly.

Veeery dimly indeed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2023 10:55 pm

Today’s takeaway, after scanning through:

Brih-nee’s allegation of sexual assault is actually ten times better and more credible than that of Lidia Thorpe, who lays down in front of Mardi Gras floats and who tells blokes outside strip clubs at 3.00 a.m. that they have small dicks.

Never thought I’d see the day. And yet, here we are.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2023 10:59 pm

The Hun:

Succession planning for a potential handover of power from Daniel Andrews to Jacinta Allan has accelerated, prompting speculation the Premier is closing in on the end of his political career.

Multiple sources have told the Herald Sun that transition planning has been under way in recent months, with the Deputy Premier advised to start building a team around her that would be ready to hit the ground running at short notice.

Told youse.

The well’s running dry. Time for someone else to be left with the bill. McGowan led the way.

JC
JC
June 15, 2023 11:03 pm

Told youse.

The well’s running dry. Time for someone else to be left with the bill. McGowan led the way.

It’s always a sheila that ends up carrying the turd bag too.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2023 11:03 pm

Attention Lidia Thorpe – here’s another bandwagon you may wish to spreadeagle yourself on (the Hun):

Nine more women have accused Bill Cosby of sexual assault in a lawsuit filed in Nevada on Wednesday

Off you go, toots. Have a crack.

Dot
Dot
June 15, 2023 11:14 pm

Why Nevada?

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 15, 2023 11:36 pm

Megan says:
June 15, 2023 at 10:45 pm

Which is why the Stoker claim doesn’t make any sense, given that she’s a solicitor and should know how to say “cease and desist” to a handsie type.

But then, again, during covid and holding down the Assistant Attorney General job, she couldn’t find it in her to stand up for the many, many Victorians who’d written to her begging the Fed govt to intervene in the new pandemic laws, which Andrews had announced.

“No, we’re not doing that” she said at the time, and then tittered her little, school girl laugh on Gary Hardgraves’ Sky show.

On principal, she could have resigned from the front bench if she couldn’t move Scummo on the liberation of those poor sods in Victoria. So, so much for her conservative credentials of small govt and individual freedom.

As to the actual pinching. Is she really saying that, with all the den of iniquity stuff in the place, this is the sum total of her experience of it and the only time it’s happened? Surely there’s something else and someone else she can hang her newly minted feminist “how dare you” cause on.

From what Paul Murray reminded his audience of in that private Labor female FB? group, every single parliamentarian and staffer must have been either a witness to, or the object of, the most disgusting and disgraceful behaviours in any workplace in the country. And yet Stoker can only cry “pinched bum” and grasp her pearls.

If not, then though Van may have a case to answer, Stoker has made the whole thing an anticlimax while simultaneously moving media attention away from the shit show that is Gallagher, Brittnee and the dosh.

m0nty
June 15, 2023 11:41 pm

If this Van chap was a groper for years, why did nobody nip it in the bud long ago?

Excellent question, johanna.

My guess is that women in the Liberal Party didn’t trust Scott Morrison to actually do anything about it. Or they did and complained to him, and he broke that trust by… not doing anything about it.

Either way, it is yet another datum pointing to a historical and deep-seated problem with women within the Liberal Party. It starts at the top, and goes all the way down to their Neanderthal rustadons like the ones who gibber their sexist rants on here.

The Party has done zero introspection in the wake of its shattering defeats, and it deserves all the pain it will go through over the next decade. It is nearly unrecoverable.

MatrixTransform
June 15, 2023 11:51 pm

stfu mUnty

JC
JC
June 15, 2023 11:56 pm

Either way, it is yet another datum pointing to a historical and deep-seated problem with women within the Liberal Party.

Ha

1.The Albanian was caught coming out of a Thai nob cleaning shop.
2. Tits has credible accusations of rape against him – certainly more credible than what the Liars party came up against Brucey.
3. There are claims that Tits office is complaint machine against harassment.
4. Tits told his wife he wanted a divorce at the Football
5. Keating told his wife they were divorcing at a dinner party
6. Hawke was a complete root rat.

And you’re whining about the libs?

Get back in the basement, you fat idiot and this time don’t come out.

JC
JC
June 15, 2023 11:57 pm

Thank God Trans is here, to counter Fatboy’s comments.

m0nty
June 15, 2023 11:58 pm

It is also hilarious that you lot have been joining the right-wing media frenzy of shouting WHAT DID LABOR KNOW about the entirely intra-LNP Lehrmann thing for weeks on end, and then this happens to remind everyone that this is all about the Liberals.

MatrixTransform
June 15, 2023 11:59 pm

stfu JC

MatrixTransform
June 15, 2023 11:59 pm

youse wankers all sound the same

JC
JC
June 16, 2023 12:02 am

Piss off Trans, you clown. Go on piss off. You dickhead.

JC
JC
June 16, 2023 12:03 am

MatrixTransform says:
June 15, 2023 at 11:51 pm

stfu mUnty

That’s really telling him. Evidence filled comment that counters exactly what he said. Thanks Trans, you eggnog.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 12:16 am

If not, then though Van may have a case to answer, Stoker has made the whole thing an anticlimax while simultaneously moving media attention away from the shit show that is Gallagher, Brittnee and the dosh.

Bar Beach Swimmer, it’s almost as if right on cue just a they had Labor on the ropes they throw in the towel. Stoker may be getting a lot of media love for her “bravery” but voters are unimpressed.

caveman
caveman
June 16, 2023 2:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:13 am
Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 4:16 am

Thanks Tom. Happy Friday.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 16, 2023 4:32 am

Thanks Tom – Happy Thursday here

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 16, 2023 4:36 am

Rita Panahi:

Australians should be enjoying the cheapest, most reliable energy on the planet but instead we have among the highest prices that are crippling businesses and seeing an increasing number of households plunged into energy poverty.

Now, we are being told to turn off heaters, dryers and even kettles to reduce soaring electricity bills.

Insane advice for the citizens of a prosperous nation uniquely blessed with natural resources. Australia is the world’s biggest exporter of coal and among the biggest producers of uranium and liquefied natural gas (LNG).

We are indeed the “Lucky Country” but sadly our political leaders are willing to sacrifice the nation’s prosperity for a net-zero pipedream.

Instead of ensuring the comfort and prosperity of Australians and giving our industries a competitive advantage, we have tumbled down the path to unreliable and expensive sources of energy with no baseload power to replace coal.

And, unlike other first world nations including France, UK, US, Sweden, South Korea and Finland, we have no nuclear energy to fall back on.

The spectacularly wrong climate catastrophists whose predictions of doom and gloom never eventuate have created their own existential crisis.

It’s not global warming that will kill Australians, but the cold.

A 2019 paper in Internal Medicine Journal revealed that in just two inner-city emergency departments in Melbourne, more than 200 patients (the overwhelming majority of whom were pensioners found indoors) presented with hypothermia, with 23 people dying, over a seven-year period to 2016.

Now, what would the numbers look like today and not just from two Melbourne emergency departments but hospitals and medical centres around the country?

Energy costs have soared since 2016 and pensioners, working class and even middle income Australians are struggling to pay the exorbitant prices.

It should shame this nation’s leaders that a single person dies from hyperthermia because they are reluctant to adequately heat their home.

Around the world the cold kills many more people than the heat; even in relatively warm climates like Australia deaths due to cold are significantly higher than deaths due to heat.

Around 6.5 per cent of deaths in Australia are attributed to cold weather, while hot weather accounts for 0.5 per cent, according to Monash University researchers.

And now the populace is receiving advice from experts about limiting use of personal heaters so their energy bills are a little less frightening.

Under the headline Aussies Urged to Reduce Use of Heaters As Cold Weather Sets In, news.com.au provided advice from “experts” to “go easy on the heating this winter” to avoid bill shock.

Leading energy comparison organisation Canstar Blue’s utilities editor Tara Donnelly said: “While there are some appliances a family can’t avoid using, such as the fridge, other appliances are more of a luxury that save time or add comfort or entertainment … portable heaters, electric blankets, even TVs and gaming consoles.”

Apparently, portable heaters are a “nice-to-have” item, not a necessity in 2023, and people can instead wear extra layers of clothing.

Households struggling with electricity and gas bills were also advised to cut the number of laundry loads put through the dryer and to consider heating the kettle just once a day, and then using a Thermos rather than re-boiling throughout the day.

That could save you a whopping $2 a month!

Have we lost our collective minds? Instead of making full use of the natural resources we are blessed with and ensuring our living standards are not only maintained but improved, we are opting to regress to appease the climate gods.

One in four Australian households struggle to pay their energy bills, according to research published by RMIT in April.

The researchers identified six hidden energy vulnerabilities including “underconsumption where households limit or turn off cooling, heating and/or lights to avoid disconnections”.

They also found “some households disguise energy poverty by using public facilities such as showers or pooling money for bills between families”.

Federal and state governments, of all stripes, have failed to prioritise cheap, reliable energy and have been hyperfocused on emission targets.

That will ultimately see many more Australians plunged into energy poverty. And, if you still believe the lie that renewables are the cheapest form of energy, then you’re not the brightest bulb in the box.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 16, 2023 4:42 am

Tweet of note. Expect monty to get flustered.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 16, 2023 4:46 am

Have we lost our collective minds?

Yes. Green insanity has taken over our political class.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 4:58 am

youse all sound the same

mongs

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 5:08 am

It is also hilarious that you lot have

We have a “you lot”. Now we know Monster has won the argument.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 5:12 am

Thanks Tom – Happy Thursday here

Welcome back Old Ozzie. You’ve been missed

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2023 5:24 am

JFK Jr is pretty jacked for an old guy.
He’d easily beat Biden or Trump in a push up contest.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2023 5:25 am

Make the RFK Jr, lol.

132andBush
132andBush
June 16, 2023 6:24 am

“He did so by squeezing my bottom twice. By its nature and by its repetition, it was not accidental. That action was not appropriate. It was unprofessional and uninvited,” Ms Stoker said.

“I raised the matter with Senator Van at a meeting the following day. I described the action, told him it was unacceptable, and that it was not to be repeated. He apologised and said he would never do it again. I accepted his apology and his undertaking.”

Mme Zulu advises that etiquette in her day, was any bottom pinchers got a slap across the face.

Indeed.
When my wife was in her early 20’s she was pinched on the bum at a work do (Yarra cruise or some such), the bloke got a “slap” that broke the plaster cast on her, broken from netball, wrist!

I don’t understand why these women don’t address these instances in similar fashion.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 16, 2023 6:28 am

Are Black Holes racist? Jo Nova reports that CEOs are more circumspect about wokeism these days.
Meanwhile over at American Thinker, The Rules of the Soro-sphere tries to work out what motivates him to try and collapse the USA. Perhaps it’s just to see if it can be done. Looks like it can be, unless there’s another sort of revolution or civil war.

sfw
sfw
June 16, 2023 6:28 am

Someone upthread wrote about ‘Proms’, don’t know where you live but in our part of Australia I’ve never heard the word used outside US films and TV shows. Schools here have ‘Formals’, that’s what everyone kids and adults call them. my youngest finished high school last year and he says that the function is a ‘Formal’.

Maybe the ever increasing use of Americanisms is further advanced in some parts of Oz.

132andBush
132andBush
June 16, 2023 6:30 am

Cassie

Secondly, pervert apologist, you need shut your mouth, you happily support, as you’ve said on these pages, the bashing and assaulting of women whose opinions you don’t like.

The least of his issues.
He has amply demonstrated on these pages why he should be kept away from children.

Zatara
Zatara
June 16, 2023 6:35 am

Marlboro Adds Puberty Blockers To Cigarettes To Make Them Legal For Kids

Cited as “lung-affirming care,” the cigarette manufacturer’s decision to supplement their products with puberty blockers has caused progressives to praise Marlboro as a true advocate for children’s health.

“Well, if these things have puberty blockers in them, they must be good for kids,” said Pediatrician Dr. Ima G. Reumer, who specializes in non-invasive, gender-affirming mastectomies and genital mutilations for tikes. “I’ll have my staff add a couple of packs of Marlboros to my patients’ recovery packages.”

The Bee strikes again.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 16, 2023 6:36 am

One in four Australian households struggle to pay their energy bills
This will remain the unacceptable consequence of electing idiots and ideologues to state and federal governments, while at the same time allowing the public debate to be overseen by mostly left/green media.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2023 6:38 am

I don’t understand why these women don’t address these instances in similar fashion.

Those instances would have had to have actually happened for women to react in that entirely appropriate way.

It is plausible to suggest that a) Van has an existing reputation for handsiness (but not towards Thorpe), b) that Thorpe was aware of this, and consequently that c) Van is now the target for Thorpe’s limitless attention-seeking.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2023 6:40 am

Pediatrician Dr. Ima G. Reumer

Snicker.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 16, 2023 6:47 am

Glenda Jackson brown bread at 87.
I think she was the first film actress I saw do a full frontal complete with pubes in a feature film. Married one chap, but he later sued for divorce when she had an affair with another. In due course she became a Labour member of UK parliament.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2023 6:50 am

Married one chap, but he later sued for divorce when she had an affair with another. In due course she became a Labour member of UK parliament.

A ladeee version of Bob Hawke then.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2023 6:51 am

Aaaaand a very good morning to the lurKerspooKflaMerTraiTors.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 16, 2023 6:59 am

Pro-Russian Hacktivist Groups ‘KillNet, Anonymous Sudan, and REvil’ Announce to Destroy European Banking System in the “Next 48 Hours”

Who needs paper money and/or bullion? Making everything electronic and reliant on the internet has vulnerabilities, so as the scouts used to say, be prepared.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 7:16 am

“It is also hilarious that you lot have been joining the right-wing media frenzy of shouting WHAT DID LABOR KNOW about the entirely intra-LNP Lehrmann thing for weeks on end, and then this happens to remind everyone that this is all about the Liberals.”

Hmmm NO. It’s about male conduct, speaking of which, I’ll ask you again, you stinking grub, have you told your wife that you’re an apologist for perverts and that you support women, whose opinions you don’t like, being threatened, bashed and assaulted? You openly admitted your support for violence against women on these pages. And I suspect Senator Van, for all his faults and his adolescent behaviour, doesn’t support women being threatened, bashed and assaulted…LIKE YOU DO.

In the meantime, PISS OFF.

bons
bons
June 16, 2023 7:18 am

Jackson was a pioneer. She, along with Baez pioneered the arrogant, bullying, intolerant and very agressive marxist woman that became the role model for our contemporary hard left political she creatures.

Beertruk
June 16, 2023 7:20 am

POETS Day.

Piss Off Early Tomorrow’s Saturday.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2023 7:21 am

Marlboro Adds Puberty Blockers To Cigarettes To Make Them Legal For Kids

A few fun stories around today on how the tobacco companies are acing ESG rankings.

The ESG Ruse Continues: Legacy Tobacco Companies Are Posting Higher ESG Scores Than EV Maker Tesla (15 Jun)

The latest “reality check” for ESG investing and the inane “scores” that companies receive comes courtesy of the Free Beacon, who this week profiled how tobacco companies – yes tobacco companies – are blowing away EV-maker Tesla in their ESG rating.

The report noted that this month S&P Global assigned Tesla “a lower environmental, social, and governance score than Philip Morris International, the maker of Marlboro cigarettes.”

Tesla earned just 37 points on their ESG scorecard while Philip Morris posted a score of 84. Similarly, the report notes, the London Stock Exchange has given British American Tobacco a score of 94.

The tobacco companies are gaming the system by embracing corporate progressivism, the report says. Yes, despite the fact that they are manufacturing products that aid in the slow, unhealthy deaths of those who use them.

The Bee is probably channeling this story, they don’t miss much! Like North Korea being appointed to the WHO executive board a couple weeks ago problem children like to make themselves look as nice as possible.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 7:24 am

Glenda Jackson played Elizabeth I, she WAS Elizabeth I.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2023 7:25 am

The picture wireless informs me that Geelong influencer Patrick Dangerfield was taken to hospital after a rib injury during the footy last night.

Sources indicate that he was stabilised with the aid of choppered-in hair product.

Thoughts and prayers.

calli
calli
June 16, 2023 7:33 am

Greetings beautiful FNQ, Cairns to be precise. Flying out to Narita in a few hours. Would have far preferred a direct flight to LHR, but these are the vagaries of FFPs and luck. One advantage of short sectors…a real bed, not those concrete airline ones with a blanket that always slips off just as they’re lowering the cabin temps.

I look out my window on the second floor of the motel and see skinny palms festooned with orchids and an enormous salmon Mussaenda formosana in full, glorious bloom. The tropics in winter are beautiful.

duncanm
duncanm
June 16, 2023 7:34 am

Anchor Whatsays:
June 15, 2023 at 7:53 pm
Basically, the left in the USA is now trying harder and harder to provoke a violent response from the citizens on the right.

I think you’re right, Anchor.

I can’t see any other reason for the Trump charges, for example.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 16, 2023 7:34 am

Knuckles I was flicking channels on fta, as you do, and saw Dangerous Dangerfield being interviewed. Never seen him before only references of his hair products. I cracked up. He looked like his mummy made sure he was spic’n’span before sending him off to Sunday school.

calli
calli
June 16, 2023 7:36 am

Sad to hear about Jackson. Looks like Mary Queen of Scots survived Elizabeth I after all.

She was a marvellous actress.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 16, 2023 7:38 am

Amanda Stoker has dropped a lot in my opinion.
A sincere apology from Van should be the end of the matter but she raises the issue now in support of an erratic hater like Thorpe.
Stoker has caused major damage to her party just when they were gaining ground on Labor’s mean girls.
She may stupidly think it’ll boost her ratings on SKY but I imagine many conservatives will tune out after this stunt.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 16, 2023 7:39 am

I think the indictment of the NW Subway Good Samaritan gives a pretty handy measure of the state of Justice in that benighted city.

johanna
johanna
June 16, 2023 7:41 am

The evil TGA strikes again, demonstrating monumental ignorance and callous disregard for human suffering – as is its wont:

The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) advises that opioids are no better than placebos when it comes to chronic pain unrelated to cancer.

According to these ignorant creeps, there is a special kind of chronic pain associated with cancer (which is not one disease, but many) which responds to opioids, whereas every other kind of chronic pain is unaffected by them except as a placebo.

Leaving aside the utterly unscientific nature of this ridiculous notion, i.e. that there is a special and unique type of pain associated with the various cancers, it is unsupported by the experience of millions of chronic pain sufferers, of whom I am one.

If I accidentally forget to take my slow release opioid tablet morning or night, I am quickly aware of it because the hip, lower back and wrist start to ache, and soon ache very badly indeed. These are not withdrawal symptoms, you idiots. They are chronic pain symptoms which are not related to one of the cancers, but to incurable, degenerative arthritis.

So what do they suggest we do instead?

While chronic pain is best treated by a multidisciplinary approach including psychology, physiotherapy and specialist advice, this kind of treatment often comes with long-wait times and steep price tags.

Jeez, the only things they left out are aromatherapy and homeopathy. So effective when your bones are crumbling and rubbing up against each other.

The TGA is a menace to public health and wellbeing, probably the worst in the country.

Urb
Urb
June 16, 2023 7:41 am

Welcome to gods country calli

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 7:46 am

Amanda Stoker has dropped a lot in my opinion.

I haven’t had any time for her since she joined the Bettina Arndt pile on in parliament.

A disgraceful example of the political bullying of a citizen.

At some point parliamentary privilege will have to be revisited.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 7:47 am

Andrew Probyn’s services no longer required by the ABC.

He certainly won’t be the last “big name” to go, either.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 7:52 am

“Amanda Stoker has dropped a lot in my opinion.
A sincere apology from Van should be the end of the matter but she raises the issue now in support of an erratic hater like Thorpe.
Stoker has caused major damage to her party just when they were gaining ground on Labor’s mean girls.
She may stupidly think it’ll boost her ratings on SKY but I imagine many conservatives will tune out after this stunt.”

Agree, a friend rang me to ask, why has Amanda Stoker done this? It’s a good question. All she’s done is assist and give legitimacy to a nasty, nasty woman like Thorpe, the same Thorpe who’s been banned from a Melbourne Strip Club for inappropriate behaviour, the same Thorpe who routinely hurls insults at other women in the senate, just ask Holly Hughes and Pauline Hanson. Does Stoker really think, and does anyone here also think that the likes of Lidia Thorpe, Sarah Hanson-Dung, Penny Pong, and all the other females on the left in Canberra would do the same to one of their own? NO. The ALP and the Greens run a protection racket for their own, they’ll even protect pedophiles running amok in the party. Oh and the Labor party, contrary to what the pervert apologist wrote last night, has a much, much more sordid history of inappropriate behaviour, sexual assaults, allegations about rape and REAL rapes.

Stoker was relegated to third sport on the Liberal Party senate ticket in QLD, and she lost to Pauline Hanson, someone who, whilst not always perfect, does stick her head up for us. I’m glad Hanson beat Stoker. If I’d lived in QLD last year, I wouldn’t have voted for Stoker either.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 7:57 am

Megan

Why, oh, why do these excuses for fierce girl boss, power babe’s wait 3 freaking years or more to out these blokes? They’ve entered, survived and mostly thrived in one of the toughest work environments in the world, politics, yet they don’t have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to an idiot jerk of this kind?

The ALP’s vengeance on those who are perceived to have broken with the “party line” is swift and relentless. The gentlest reprimand is likely to be given the label of a “Labor Rat”. Exclusion from any professional or social connection and active harassment will follow.

For a good example, see the treatment of Kimberley Kitching.

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 8:00 am

Amanda Stoker.
I’m not going to get het up over a man having a couple and getting a little squeeze in.
On a scale of 1 to rape that’s a zero.
But great work taking the heat of Labor’s allegation weaponising.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 16, 2023 8:00 am

What Johanna said x 100. The slow release opiods ended up not being enough when I needed it and when I do need it it takes too long to work in tablet form. I’d be a junky if I took enough to stop the pain from happening.

rosie
rosie
June 16, 2023 8:01 am

Cairns sounds better than Canberra, yesterday was bright and cold, which I don’t mind but today is grey.
To indoor pursuits!

Pogria
Pogria
June 16, 2023 8:02 am

Have fun Calli.
And like everyone else here has stated, keep up with the travelogue.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 8:03 am

m0ntysays:
June 15, 2023 at 11:41 pm
If this Van chap was a groper for years, why did nobody nip it in the bud long ago?

Excellent question, johanna.

My guess is that women in the Liberal Party didn’t trust Scott Morrison to actually do anything about it. Or they did and complained to him, and he broke that trust by… not doing anything about it.

Either way, it is yet another datum pointing to a historical and deep-seated problem with women within the Liberal Party. It starts at the top, and goes all the way down to their Neanderthal rustadons like the ones who gibber their sexist rants on here.

What is your assessment of the multiple complaints from (carefully anonymous – see my comment at 0757) Labor women, including the Facebook group, the reference by Plibbers and an ALPBC j’ismist at the time of the last election, and the Paul Murray comment last night?

Is it that women in the Labor Party didn’t trust AnAl to actually do anything about it. Or did they complain to him, and he broke that trust by … not doing anything about it.

Either way, it is yet another datum pointing to a historical and deep-seated problem with women within the Labor Party. It starts at the top, and goes all the way down to their Neanderthal rustadons.

And what about Billie Shortone? Why is he still in Parliament? Is it that Labor believes only those women whose complaints benefit the Party politically?

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 8:04 am

“I haven’t had any time for her since she joined the Bettina Arndt pile on in parliament.

A disgraceful example of the political bullying of a citizen.”

Stoker did later apologise to Arndt. But it should have never ever have happened. What was done that day still sticks in my throat. My understanding is that Scumbag and the Belgian forced Liberal and National senators to join the Keneally, Gallagher and Pong notion. Which tells us a lot about Scumbag and the careerist Belgian, now in Europe hobnobbing with globalists. But it also tells us a lot about how weak so called conservatives, like Stoker, Canavan, Barnabus, and others are when push comes to shove. They talk the talk, which is easy, but when it comes to walking the talk, they fail. They later did the same with net zero, they simply capitulated.

What was done to Bettina Arndt remains infamous and a stain on the senate. I should also remind others here that the IPA was asked to assist Bettina during those awful days in February 2020, when she was being harassed, ridiculed, targeted, lied about, cancelled, smeared and silenced. And the IPA’s response? They refused to help her, they refused to speak up for free speech. Arndt did receive some assistance from Toby Young’s Free Speech Union in the UK.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 16, 2023 8:04 am

All this carry-on about a maybe bum pinch. What did the metoo movement in parliament say about jackie jacquie wanting a big salami to plug the gap. What was it again? Silence.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2023 8:07 am

a big salami to plug the gap

Empowering!

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 8:13 am

“And what about Billie Shortone? Why is he still in Parliament? Is it that Labor believes only those women whose complaints benefit the Party politically?”

Believe all women, except for Kathy Sherriff. LOL. Seriously, if you didn’t laugh you’d cry at the absurd double standards.

Let me also remind people how in 2014, the stupid Liberal Party under Tone Abbott did the right thing and refused to make political capital out of the Shorten allegation and so allowed the Vic plod to investigate Shorten. And whilst all of this was happening, Shorten REMAINED leader of the Labor Party, he didn’t stand down from his position, and he didn’t take any leave whilst the investigation was happening.

The pong of double standards.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2023 8:13 am

Hot Button Sutton may have to start stockpiling and selling his designer stubble (the Hun):

Outgoing chief health officer Brett Sutton resigned just days after the government was made aware he will a key figure in a $50m legal battle over the infamous slug-gate saga.

The Herald Sun can reveal that just days before the resignation last week the Department of Health was provided with a draft amended statement of claim that included substantial new claims against Professor Sutton.

It’s actually worse (for him) than the original allegations:

Mr Sutton was to be a bit player in the proceedings before a new legal team took carriage of the case and launched a new strategy in which Mr Sutton’s conduct in understood to be central to their fight.

But:

An amended statement of claim, filed in court this week, alleges Professor Sutton was personally responsible for the loss and damage caused to I Cook Foods.

Amazingly coincidental, that people responsible for Mount Everest-sized cockups resign from their sinecures just before being held to account.

The ‘personal responsibility’ claim’s a belter though. Bet Sutton’s sphincter’s doing a bit of five-cent fifty-cent at the minute.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 8:13 am

Further to Andrew Probyn (and several hundred others) being made redundant by the ABC, on Peter Smith’s thread I predicted the ABC will experience major cuts by 2030. I certainly believe their broadcasting presence will be much reduced by then.

I also think their much touted switch to digital platforms will fail. They simply don’t have quality content providers who can compete in that crowded market.

caveman
caveman
June 16, 2023 8:13 am

Stoker is doin it to stoke her/the ratings.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 16, 2023 8:15 am

The punishment should be something medieval.
With extra evil.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 8:15 am

Stoker did later apologise to Arndt.

Has she apologised to voters?

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 8:17 am

Close the gap.

KD, every man must do his duty.

I could quote Churchill but I don’t want to be mean to you or roast Lambie any further.

I blame all of these Naval war stories. I could smell the leather on the Admiralty board chairs for a moment.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 8:18 am

bons says:
June 16, 2023 at 7:18 am
Jackson was a pioneer. She, along with Baez pioneered the arrogant, bullying, intolerant and very agressive marxist woman that became the role model for our contemporary hard left political she creatures.

Glenda played herself in every movie of hers I saw. As you said, arrogant, belligerent, rude.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 8:20 am

The TGA are basically witch doctors at this point.

I’ve had broken bones. Opioids definitely help with pain management. No, I didn’t have cancer either.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2023 8:21 am

32 today, and cloudless.

To outdoor pursuits! Yet again!

Pogria
Pogria
June 16, 2023 8:26 am

Amanda Stoker has obviously hired a stylist and probably a publicist and for good measure, an advisor to help her have another stab at politics.
She’s gotten rid of the Goldilocks hair. Probably been told to stop it with the “head-tilty, little girl, aren’t I sweet”, visage and go for the lacquered power-bitch look.
Also, a Brittney “let’s get the c#nt”, storyline and she believes she’ll be welcomed into the foetid arms of either side of the uniparty.

Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 8:30 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
June 16, 2023 at 7:24 am
Glenda Jackson played Elizabeth I, she WAS Elizabeth I.

She also played the part of Cleopatra (seriously) and funnily as Cleopatra on the Morecombe and Wise Show –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtHNrRk3lQM

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 8:33 am

Amanda Stoker has dropped a lot in my opinion.
A sincere apology from Van should be the end of the matter but she raises the issue now in support of an erratic hater like Thorpe.

Is this take today’s ALP Talking Point?

Here’s a more likely scenario:
Once the story broke, Stoker contacted Dutton to tell him not to defend David Van because it is a Mug’s Game.
Dutton then gave Stoker the O.K. to go public, and a clinical execution followed.
Done & dusted.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 16, 2023 8:33 am

Sorry if mentioned but I did see this in yesterday’s dead tree Hun:

Appearing on Perf radio, the Prime Minister was queried about what was in his vinyl collection after hosting the Nova presenters at The Lodge on Tuesday evening.
“I asked a question, I said, ‘Do you have a certain artist on vinyl’? And you said, ‘Yes I do’. What was that artist Anthony Albanese?” host Nathan Morris asked.
“It was Tay Tay,” the PM replied. “I think she’s terrific, and I think that she’s empowering of young women. If people actually listen to Shake It Off, the lyrics are fantastic. I think it is, I quite enjoy her.”

Couple of things. I don’t think Miss Swift would be on vinyl.
As for appearing on FM pukeness, trying to appear hip whilst calling the aforementioned artist as ‘Tay Tay’ is vomit inducing.
And as to the last point, whoever advised him to say that, (guessing a ponytailed git) should be summarily dismissed.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 8:35 am

Farmer Gez says:
June 16, 2023 at 7:38 am
Amanda Stoker has dropped a lot in my opinion.
A sincere apology from Van should be the end of the matter but she raises the issue now in support of an erratic hater like Thorpe.
Stoker has caused major damage to her party just when they were gaining ground on Labor’s mean girls.
She may stupidly think it’ll boost her ratings on SKY but I imagine many conservatives will tune out after this stunt.

I made a similar comment last night about Amanda Stoker. All her accusation did is bolster Thorpe and direct attention away from Katy Gallagher. Good work, Amanda. Won’t be watching your program on Sky from now on.

Beertruk
June 16, 2023 8:37 am

The punishment should be something medieval.
With extra evil.

I concur.
Truly nauseating, disgusting and disgraceful.
Parent should be shot along with looters, deserters and mutineers.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 8:39 am

“It was Tay Tay,” the PM replied. “I think she’s terrific, and I think that she’s empowering of young women. If people actually listen to Shake It Off, the lyrics are fantastic. I think it is, I quite enjoy her.”

I thought it was a good effort for a country singer to transition to being a pop singer.

It’s not the greatest song in the world.

There’s a point where stop envying these people.

“I think that she’s empowering young women”

Imagine having to coach yourself to believe this or actually thinking this is true. Who actually blurts out nonsense like this in a conversation?

I can’t imagine being that much of a retard.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 8:40 am

Jeez, the only things they left out are aromatherapy and homeopathy. So effective when your bones are crumbling and rubbing up against each other.

The TGA is a menace to public health and wellbeing, probably the worst in the country.

Johanna, I bet TGA have all sorts of experts and stakeholders providing input except those most impacted – the pain sufferers.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 16, 2023 8:42 am

Just saw something on my company’s internal website thingy.

It says that, in order to ‘foster a culture of inclusion and removal of barriers to success’ they need to measure demographics.

My immediate thought was that actually you absolutely should not. You should be blind in all your processes so you assign the best people to roles. If you believe that competence is spread evenly over all demographics then you can assume that this will be reflected in your staffing.

BUT, if you are wrong that everything (skills, aptitude, and preference for roles) is spread uniformly but you make uniform distribution your guiding light, then you will be doing a lot of people injustice.

Well, I suppose ‘social justice’ is to justice what ‘social science’ is to science – a blatant misuse of a good word to allow you the airs to meddle in things you wouldn’t know if it bit you on the bum.

I assume the business assumes that it has these wonderful processes to allow merit to show through: They don’t trust their employees to not be prejudiced. The people rather than the processes are the source of injustice.

Surely, few things are as laughable as a corporate conscience.

Figures
Figures
June 16, 2023 8:43 am

Thorpe is now calling Dutton a racist because he didn’t care about her allegations, only Stoker’s.

I’m utterly shocked.

I could have sworn that Dutton would now be loved by everybody for his “swift action”.

Pogria
Pogria
June 16, 2023 8:45 am

The punishment should be something medieval.
With extra evil.

This would fix it.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 16, 2023 8:48 am

-Albanese is a flog
-Taylor Swift is a successful marketer of products to children
-“Shake It Off” is not empowering, it’s bogan-confirming “I’m perfect just as I am, yes I would like fries with that” guff
… having said, Swift has never pretended to be anything other than very good at what she does, fabulously wealthy, famous, and doing it easy too.
…she’s no Dua Lipa though

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 8:49 am

Roberts-Smith’s notoriety could spare him trial if charged, top silk says
Erin Pearson
By Erin Pearson
June 16, 2023 — 5.00am

One of Australia’s leading defence barristers says ex-soldier Ben Roberts-Smith could avoid ever facing trial if he’s charged with war crimes because it would be impossible to find an impartial jury.

Robert Richter, KC, said the level of media reporting surrounding the former SAS corporal’s alleged war crimes could mean that if he was charged, he could apply for a hold on any future criminal proceedings because under the Constitution, federal charges must be decided by a jury and not in a judge-alone trial.

But other legal experts argue the Australian jury system has proven to be robust, and Roberts-Smith could fairly face a trial ruled on by 12 of his peers.

Earlier this month, Federal Court Justice Anthony Besanko ruled in a defamation case won by The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times that Roberts-Smith was involved in illegal killings while in Afghanistan.

In a finding that received national attention, Besanko found the disgraced war veteran was responsible for the murders of Afghan villager Ali Jan and another unarmed man in 2012, and also murdered two unarmed men on Easter Sunday 2009.

Richter, a former chairman of Victoria’s Criminal Bar Association who has handled a number of high-profile cases including defending Cardinal George Pell at trial, said if Roberts-Smith was charged, “jurors from outer space” would be needed given the former soldier’s public history.

Richter believes there are no judicial directions that could produce an impartial jury, and he anticipated a desperate contest over an application for a permanent stay given the case’s public history.

“The Constitution mandates trial by jury without the option of a trial by judge alone, which is not an option that was available in the civil trial,” Richter said.

“If and when criminal charges are laid, one can also anticipate a desperate contest over an application for a permanent stay because it would, given the public history of Roberts-Smith, require the empanelment of jurors from outer space to try the case. No judicial directions can produce an impartial jury.”

A permanent stay is a ruling made by a judge to halt legal proceedings indefinitely. If granted, charges are not dropped, but the case remains in a legal limbo.

Barrister Gideon Boas, who has previously represented a Balkans war criminal, said juries had historically shown themselves capable of putting aside what they knew to deliver a fair result.

Boas said permanent stays on prosecutions were undesirable, and he believed it was impossible to prove a person could not receive a fair trial.

He also highlighted other high-profile cases subject to extensive media coverage, including the Pell and Bruce Lehrmann cases, which did proceed to jury trials. And if juries did get it wrong, Boas said, a case could be referred to the Court of Appeal.

“It is often the expressed view of the courts, including the highest courts, that juries can be trusted to fulfil their obligations, they do listen and do follow instructions. If that’s true … then it really can’t be said that a person like Ben Roberts-Smith cannot receive a fair trial,” Boas said.

“A more cynical person might take the view that a jury is probably not best placed to make that assessment; for 12 people to set aside both prejudices and knowledge of a matter so notorious it’s been in the media for months and months, if not years.”

In Roberts-Smith’s case, Boas said it was inconceivable criminal charges would not be laid and if Australia failed to act, the International Criminal Court could step in if it felt Australia was unwilling and unable to prosecute war crimes.

Roberts-Smith, who is the subject of a war crimes investigation, arrived home from overseas on Wednesday night and spoke for the first time since the Federal Court judgment.

He said he was “100 per cent” proud of his time in the Defence Force and would not be apologising to anyone.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 8:49 am

Get

Amanda Stoker has dropped a lot in my opinion.

And what’s with the awful hairdo?

As we used to say in high school, she looks like she stuck her finger in a live light bulb socket.

And taking away the glasses, she still looks like Olive Rudge from On the Buses. Without the glasses.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 8:50 am

It is plausible to suggest that a) Van has an existing reputation for handsiness (but not towards Thorpe), b) that Thorpe was aware of this, and consequently that c) Van is now the target for Thorpe’s limitless attention-seeking.

That is my take.
Which doesn’t alter my opinion that Van is an Olympic standard dickhead.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 8:50 am

Gez, sorry not Get.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 8:53 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

June 16, 2023 at 7:25 am

The picture wireless informs me that Geelong influencer Patrick Dangerfield was taken to hospital after a rib injury during the footy last night.

#metoo
I popped a rib laughing as the Port Adelaide Car Thieves put the Handbaggers to the sword.

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