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What if you prefer your women tawdry and crass?
Shame I’m on Keto right now, because this calsl for a brekkie of .. Whisky Porridge, double shot!!
This is why I shall vote SFL Cassie. Not happy about it but the best of a bad lot.
Dotsays:
June 18, 2023 at 6:30 pm
Damn this blockquoting. I may as well get an iPad.
Here is your new IPad…………………………………..
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Meetings coming up, through the West Australian wheatbelt, about the new Aboriginal Heritage Legislation. Second and third generation farmers, on freehold land are not happy….two expat South African, one forced off his family farm in the Transvaal, are furious, to say the least…….
Super snazzy looking wheels, Rabz! 🙂
Youse wimps (I’m surprised at you, Rabz as a former denizen) should try living around here. Maxima struggling to get into double figures, wind chill keeping it even lower. Below zero every night.
I firmly believe that a bit of cold weather is good for the constitution – provided of course that a properly warmed refuge is available. Despite the increasing infirmities of age, I do walk almost every day (draw the line at driving rain). While it is not always agreeable to leave the warmth, I have to say that on returning I do feel braced and stimulated, with a bit of rose in the cheeks.
That said, the skyrocketing energy prices for those who live around here must be causing a lot of misery, especially for those on fixed incomes. I have the heating on all day unless I am out or napping, and it would cost at least $250 a week at current prices for my small space. Fortunately it is included in the price where I live – it’s a bargain considering the alternatives.
I can’t imagine how pensioners and low income earners (especially those with children) are managing. When I moved to Canberra for the first time in the 1970s, it had the cheapest energy prices in the country. Even impoverished students in draughty group houses could afford to stay warm.
Thanks to ‘progress,’ thousands of people are shivering at home and dreading their energy bills, and students are not so impoverished as many have rich parents from the Asian elites who arrange comfortable accommodation for the sprogs.
Anyone who has visited Parliament House and many Departmental buildings in Canberra in winter knows that, if anything, they are overheated. While pensioners and stay at home parents shiver, government employees have at least eight hours a day of paid for comfort. Their domestic heating requirements are considerably less than those on much lower incomes.
I think it will need a charismatic leader and popular movement to rise up and hit these parasites and ideologues in the chops and the nads before anything will change. No politician or public servant is suffering – yet.
Meetings coming up, through the West Australian wheatbelt, about the new Aboriginal Heritage Legislation. Second and third generation farmers, on freehold land are not happy….two expat South African, one forced off his family farm in the Transvaal, are furious, to say the least…….
First port of call, track down McGowan.
The obvious thing to do with any ruling is to see how much it differs from the ruling it replaces.
I’m not seeing any significant gotchas.
Eg section 80 goes on to say if you rent out your family home on an arm’s length basis etc
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We’re under attack from the political class from all directions- property rights, water, energy, housing, immigration. They work for foreign interests.
Went to lunch at brother’s today for family gathering. They are all lefty and one nephew works in renewables industry. Nothing said all day about any of the controversial subjects. As leaving commented on the new double story opposite and the fact that there were no window furnishings. Huh, says brother, they probably got their first electricity bill and can’t afford the extras! I also noted my bro had no heating on at all today even though it was quite cold. I think the cracks are appearing.
OK people, I’m off now to watch Dancing With The Stars. I will be back later.
There are some truly vile pollimuppetts but nastiest of all award would be a toss us between “Dr” Emerson and the SLF (IMO).
Pensioners in Canberra should spend their days in the public areas of parliament house.
A quiet protest.
Wow. Hard to disagree with him.
Meetings coming up, through the West Australian wheatbelt, about the new Aboriginal Heritage Legislation. Second and third generation farmers, on freehold land are not happy….two expat South African, one forced off his family farm in the Transvaal, are furious, to say the least…….
And this is even before the Voice is decided!!!
It’s another putsch by the political class.
The local Greenies are very sternly reminding the peasantry that the “Voice” and this legislation are entirely separate issues….
NSW, QLD and WA can sink the voice.
Good. We shouldn’t have race-based laws.
Mel
They are just waiting for the latest programming to be uploaded from their ABCcess.
Corporate profits is getting a bit of a run, but how to square that with renew- balls and saving the planet is a hassle.
I suspect a major outage in a coal fired plant will get the blame.
Their logic of successfully selling an idea is not very strong. They want people to understand that, in being unrelated, the WA legislative changes will have to take into account the voice changes. Let’s see how that works.
Rabz – just told husband that you are buying a BMW M3 Z4. He said, “That’s a rocket ship!”. Won’t tell him about your plan to drive down through the Royal National Park – he’ll want to get the Audi R8 out & drive down with you! He ’s only done 3,000km in it in 4 years – but every drive is savoured.
Calli, my apologies for the fascists on either side of the Russia-Ukraine border, but it’s splendid you are safe and able to deliver us your marvellous travelogues. Thank God.
a work mate of mine George, was leaving the underground carpark in his pretty blue Z4 that he’d just picked up somewhere.
he was passing us as a group and he had one of those BMW smiles on his dial
flagged him down with an urgent-gotta-talk-to-you immediately waves
so he stops and pulls the window down
I says, “you didn’t tell us you have a new girlfriend”
he goes, “I don’t”
I said, ” well, whose car are you driving then?”
he called me a colourful name
All ‘conservative’ parties in the West have this problem:
It’s the traitors within that continually undermine conservative parties, because they are careerists who only care about saving their skin at the next election. Nothing, absolutely nothing, is more important than that.
I see today that some woman National whose name I forget (but this is her chance to lift her profile) is endorsing the execution of Van and the rest of the charade about sexual politics in Parliament House. She even provided partial cover for Gallagher, using the sophistry of ‘confidentiality.’
The MSM is thrilled, nothing like a bit of bloodletting to generate headlines.
Meanwhile, props to the Daily Mail for the latest revelations about Brittie and Sharaz cooking up a political hit job well in advance, including Gallagher getting a copy of the Project transcript four days before transmission.
TheirABC is sticking to stories about how many ‘programs’ are crying out for more taxpayer funds, as usual.
On another topic, TheirABC ran a story last week about the need for more taxpayer funds for airstrips and medical facilities near some dirt road in western Queensland. Apparently it is a favourite spot for daredevil motorbike riders to go and do daredevil stuff. In the last month, two have come to grief and experienced serious injuries. It is an outrage that taxpayers are not funding more airstrips and outfitting nearby properties with first aid facilities so that these daredevils (until they’re not) can do their thing.
Eejits.
That pub looks very nice, Rabz. Makes me want to take a drive down there.
Vicki – then he should.
That drive through the Royal National Park from Sutherland to Clifton is one of the World’s great drives.
Made for sports cars. The U bends at the end are a particularly nice touch and the tarmac half way through becomes super slippery in winter when the Sun just does not get through. Lots of dappled sunlight as well, at any time of the year.
Then you emerge on the shoulder of the Pacific. Just bloody breathtaking. 🙂
“It’s the traitors within that continually undermine conservative parties, because they are careerists who only care about saving their skin at the next election. Nothing, absolutely nothing, is more important than that.”
Yes.
Top Ender……
Their quest for “diversity” etc is actually very silly. For if you follow their “logic” then there should be a quota for Greek-Australians, or short people, or very tall people, or those with red hair.
And descendants of Irish convicts like me : Hobart 1818 on Minerva.
4
We need those cracks to become great big cavernous ones, mem. Huge things that will force all those swayed by the touchy-feely vibe to get it good and proper quickly.
That’s the only way to force politicians to change policy; when it hits their poll numbers.
Great choice we have here. Hard Left or Not Quite As Hard Left.
Dark Knight Rises has to be one of the top 10 best ever made.
Hey man! You seen dem ads for folks who’s retired and then woiken in da veg gardens?
I reckon if you’s still able to jive in dem gardens, youse can ge da fuck out of the retirement gig and live where you was.
Fuck you too. Moderation pricks.
Train trip to Austinmer from Sydney is good too Rabz.
Christian Bale was the best Batman.
The Green Knight was a case too many mushrooms in the writing room.
The train trip from Central to Wollongong is nice in the middle of the day when the train is half empty.
The aura of NATO will take a hammering from this stillborn offensive.
I think NATO is seen for it is now.
The funnel through which taxpayers buy defence contractors beach houses & put their kids through 50k per year private schools.
Any actual military action is secondary.
“Christian Bale was the best Batman.”
Yes, Bale is one of my favourite actors. He’s superb in everything.
Gavin Wanganeen on Dancing With The Stars calls himself the first indigenous AFL player yet he is whiter than I am. Yeah, nah.
You can say that again.
I find it odd how anyone can say with any certainty what the hell is going on in Ukraine.
Apart from blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines.
That was a Ukraine/US party.
Eddles delivering yet more interesting and insightful commentary on political events of no relevance to anyone with a functioning brain (again).
Just give it up, son. You may fancy yourself as the new Pwobes, but the ALPBC is not going to be frantically contacting you with a jerb offer any time soon.
You’ll just have to keep on hypothesising about the many (cue spookee muzak …) spooks and flamers that exist among us.
Rabz
You’ll need a second car. Convertibles should only be driven jn summer. Kind of like the American rule that you only wear linen between Memorial and Labor Days.
Feelthebern
Report for reducation, room 101.
The gruinaid loved the movie, especially the casting choices….
….
Universities and the class of people they have spawned have replaced rights decided by birth to rights decided by which people you networked with in uni.
Just to compare my skin colour to Gavin Wanganeen’s, I am European and get a deeper tan than Gavin’s by simply hanging out the weekly washing out on the Hills hoist.
Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
June 18, 2023 at 7:17 pm
And this is even before the Voice is decided!!!
The local Greenies are very sternly reminding the peasantry that the “Voice” and this legislation are entirely separate issues….
McGowan might well have guaranteed a NO vote in WA.
And even those on suburban blocks less that 1100 sqm might recall the assurances at the time of Mabo/Native Title that they would “not be coming for your suburban backyard”. Well they are now coming for freehold, including some larger suburban backyards. Will the suburbanites still believe that assurance?
How to increase your lifespan by 50%.
I was surprised that there were no Wanganeens in the list of elected members for the Victorian ‘treaty’.
Have they fallen from grace? Or are they hidden under married names?
Gaslighting.
What conservative parties?
NIMBUC!
(Not In My Bloody Underwater Country).
Pretty simple really.
If Ukraine were achieving anything strategically significant, it would be all over Western news.
Instead, there is basically blanket media silence now after 12 months, no reports of Ukraine ‘gains’
This means that Ukraine is getting its shit kicked in…
JC – I’ve not had a practical car since 1995.
That’s what I love about convertibles. Not having a woife or kiddies helps.
Goils however, do love being driven around in them.
That “wind in their hair” factor.
Quite a few pubs along that road worth a look Rabz. That one you linked especially so.
Tom, at 11.58:
A question for the ages.
He cops a couple of floggings.
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Dust:
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You can redo your life, but you have to die first | Sci-Fi Short Film: “CTRL Z”
I’ve been rather sternly reminded that ” follow the process you get an outcome. Our country is being destroyed for economic gain and this helps maintain the little pristine we have.”
DB, that vid that Indolent put up the other day – Dr Peter McCullough giving evidence – at the Pennsylvania assembly, I think it was. There’s the true situation in it’s full disgrace. Well worth the watch.
Has Danger Dan appeared on Open Forum before?
I was surprised that there were no Wanganeens in the list of elected members for the Victorian ‘treaty’.
More South Australian johanna. Firebrace and Briggs are big in black fella politics as are Thorpe and Bamblett in Victoriastan.
B John
Can you satisfy my curiosity. Are there any specific suburban blocks currently in danger?
JC – Convertibles in winter – Raiders Cap, Brando, tartan B&W scarf, leather gloves, black 501s and black suede adidas boxers.
June 2000, driving from Jindabyne to Melbourne. Started at midday expecting to be there by 5:00pm, got caught in a blizzard with the roof down in the Snowy National Park, without chains. Had to turn around and head towards Melbourne via the coastal road.
Arrived at my mate’s place on Bridge Road Richmond at 10:00pm. Absolutely buggered.
Parked the car in the Hospital and then we adjourned to Barassi’s, just across the road.
Good times, although I was lucky to get there in one piece. No phones with detailed maps or GPS, for example.
Past experience, bern. During the loss of territory in Kharkov and later Kherson my info channels never gilded the lilly. And during most other events they’re days, weeks, months ahead of mainstream sources.
Cassie 17/6 @ 9:57
Paul Kelly point that the higgins affairs was aided by Liberals/ Morrison . To me this shows that truth and decency is trashed. A person who is innocent is framed and ruined by labor and the entertainment industry. No one said hang on let’s investigate this.
Stop making excuses everyone who accused Lerhamm and accused the Liberals of ha,ving a problem with females.
The issue is the student union in Labor. They are sick, unskilled and gutless – they hide in their throng a gang.
I am about to loose it as the misses and the widow next door came over for a drink and I cracked it about Merkel o Bama Toni blair macaron – who they think are wonderful.
JC, earlier, and apropos of the pajama lady arrest in The Rat some time back:
Vicki at 2.54:
Firstly (and allegedly, not to mention apparently): I have heard it said that as an investigator, your job is your job. Not your bosses’ job, not the Premiers’ job. Your job. And while looking at that job, you need to a) look at its context, and most importantly b) go where the evidence takes you and nowhere else.
Context – Ballababy Lady had all the hallmarks of being a bogan pest who was problematic for Ballarat VicJack Inc people for years. But that’s all she (apparently) was. A master criminal – yeah nah, but yeah nah nah.
Evidence – Allegedly, a charge of incitement must have a little more substance than a Facebook post, particularly one where caution is issued to cause undue disruption to normal punters. Which, incidentally, this particular post contained. Supposedly.
From arms’ length, this looks like a failed ‘gotcha’ moment by local VicJack Inc bosses, intent on ‘uhl teach you er lesson’. Unfortunately they ignored the first two points above, then were apparently silly enough to try and seize the phones of other people present when the search warrant was executed, and which were not listed in the warrant. So they got filmed, and rightly so – for any circumstance, not just this one – and were also filmed making dills of themselves.
Back to whose job (investigation) it is – an arrest is generally a last resort, and for when a summons or something similar will not suffice for a variety of reasons. A preggers chick – who the jacks know, and know well – in PJs, and who tells the jacks about a medical appointment related to that pregnancy that very day may very well fit the bill for a non-arrest at that time.
As someone in charge of that job, you have every right to make that call – backed by all sorts of guidelines and policy.
But they didn’t. Without knowing any more about this job than what’s been in the papers (and yes, this is the MSM that people moan about yet stick to like glue any time something they want to hear or read appears in it) it smacks of the investigator in charge bowing to his/her local shiny-arse’s wishes when there was every chance to do it differently.
The motives of said shiny-arse back in the office – well, that’s open to all sorts of interpretation.
Re Rabz’s Royal National Park / Clifton Coledale run, I grew up from childhood knowing those roads like the back of my hand.
First time I drove it myself (after getting my licence) I “borrowed” my Dad’s 1963 Chevrolet Bel-Air one cold windy night and all was good until I hit a dog at Coledale. Poor mutt deceased. Right near where the Police station was. Local Constable comes out of his combined Police Station / residence to check things out.
The dog had no collar and the Constable couldn’t identify it, so he walked across the road to the cliff edge and chucked it over.
No questions asked, no breath tests administered. Simpler times.
PS I’m a dog lover so I was rather upset.
But gee I loved driving that big lump of Detroit iron !!
Suffice to say that the Chev didn’t ( couldn’t ) negotiate all the bends on the run as elegantly as some other types of cars.
Do the HR people really say this? How dare they! What a put down.
If you want longer than that read the Bible.
Rabz, what a babe magnet you are aiming to buy.
You go you good guy. You only live once.
But don’t tell Hairy I said that or he’ll come home with a 70’s Mustang, and I will not be pleased.
except of course it was the the same bald-headed polis flog that magically appeared in about 5 different “real of a copper” lock-down videos
Ballarat to Collingwood, the guy gets around.
luckily there’s a camera everywhere he goes
Hotez? Who is this prick?
I know most ( nearly all ) of all the evil faarkers in the game … a new name to investigate. Digging required.
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Then he’s not the shiny-arse, is he?
No.
Years ago when my first husband walked out leaving me with two kids under three, I spent my spare money on a new sporty (I thought) Alfa Romeo. But Hairy liked it when his soccer team hooted at his new girlfriend in her Alfa, for I was looking pretty good for 39.
It proved to be a disaster. It got stuck in third gear on one of our romantic trysts away and Hairy had to drive it back like that, very difficult avoiding all traffic lights. It was also badly made and rattled.
I sold it and put in a new kitchen in my Lilyfield house with the proceeds.
Made money instead of wasting it.
I wonder what happened to the ‘concentration camp’ at Attwood that was an open secret to those ‘in the know’?
Oh, right.
I always as a young lad in Pomgolia going to a village called Upper Upnor. Next door was a village called Lower Upnor. There was no Middle Upnor though……………………………LOL
As a small kid I grew up in a coal mining village, Winlaton Mill, County Durham about a mile up the road was another village, Winlaton Mill no one seemed to find it strange or considered asking the question, “Why?” .. we were just used to knowing who lived in which village, population combined would have been lucky to top 200 .. I suppose, not having many, if any, “outside” visitors made differentiating surplus to requirements .. my WM was 80% family anyway! .. LOL! ..
Nowadayz, with population growth the pair have come together so … problem solved ….!
But not the beautiful li’l personage who recently fractured my heart, Lizzie. 🙁
Yes. Mikey needs to do exactly that. 🙂
I just ran an internet speed here in NYC. With, I’m receiving 246.7 mbps. In Australia, it’s around 50. Unreal.
Falling Rocks Do Not Stop!
I remember 6 foot snow drifts in Pomgolia as a young lad in 1963
Winter, 1963 .. never to be forgotten if you was in Geordieland tho to be honest, living at the top of Sheriff Hill beside St. John’s Church* we did have a week off school .. there was no way up or down, without skis ….. which for some reason weren’t available … LOL!
*The tip of St. John’s steeple, the highest point in Tyneside ……
Just back from a session at the local and chatting with a group of grumpy old farmers.
You haven’t seen grumpy until you have seen (and heard) these old boys “discussing” Sneakers’ aboriginal heritage plan.
Sailors are supposed to have a good vocabulary of filthy swear words, but the locals leave them for dead when it comes to this outrageous bullshit.
I will be very surprised if any farmer actually asks permission from anyone, much less some .gov grifter, to dig a hole or cut down a tree on his property. I foresee massive civil disobedience. I see upthread that Zulu is getting a similar reaction on his patch as well.
I hope the Dorper’s paddock isn’t declared a sacred site come 1 July, the spare bedroom is pretty small and I don’t think they will like the colour scheme.
Perth.
Dr Malhotra visiting West Australian Parliament.
Dr Aseem Malhotra: If We Don’t Act, Big Pharma Will Keep Harming People for Profit for Years to Come
Really Nick? Who gives a toss?
Stop pretending to be one of those mythical “rational consumers”, Squirette.
Ever since gaining my economics degree I’ve been on a mighty quest to encounter and interview a “rational consumer”.
It’s now been over three decades and I’ve emerged empty handed. 🙁
However, in that time I have encountered three Unicorns, Bigfoot and the LochNess Monster. 😕
Circumspect.
Sorry.
I thought it was random word night.
‘Rational Economic Man’- Ever Brian Toohey’s Tumbling Dice? He had a go at the RBA and Treasury but they are probably a lot worse now than they was then.
Ever read Brian Toohey’s Tumbling Dice? *
JC
887 here in the for sale section will have to comply.
https://www.realestate.com.au/buy/property-house-land-size-1200-in-perth+-+greater+region,+wa/list-1?source=refinement
I thought it was that you paid taxes in the country where you lived and earned the money. If not then another country is ripping you off.
The bloke facing the wrath of the law here – nine months in the tronk and a twenty thousand dollar fine – was dobbed in by one of his neigbours…..
“Rugged up”. Typical bloody Northerners … ?
https://ibb.co/R9NszD9
The bloke facing the wrath of the law here – nine months in the tronk and a twenty thousand dollar fine – was dobbed in by one of his neigbours…..
despicable
The Van Saga
If he did pinch/ grope Stokers bum my question is how many of you have done that in the workplace.
This question was put to me by my cleaner on our Saturday arvo chat when I’m pushing out jobs.
My reply is never and I could not think of that happening or seeing that happen.
Only aggregating experieNces were with women who had a, chip on their shoulders because they thought they had something to prove, and one was just vile in a posi of authority, not because she had to prove it as a woman but she got off on it – worst she hurting this polite really well mannered girl, happy and gentle of spirit.
Calli, my cousin’s uncle from her mother’s side travelled through Europe on a motorbike all the way up to the top of Norway. It was his bucket list item.
Can you satisfy my curiosity. Are there any specific suburban blocks currently in danger?
In the Lake Macquarie area you cannot put a pool in without 3rd nations approval.
Calli, Federation Square in Melbourne is ground zero for Australian ugliness.
Mole
They have to comply with what though? We’ve been through this before and the conclusion was that, no, aboriginals couldn’t simply drive up to your driveway and tell you to leave the premises as they were claiming ownership. That’s not happening. There is interference with property rights and that’s for sure, but it’s not going to be wholesale confiscation. In any event, the only entities allowed to confiscate land in Australia are the state and federal governments and only then on just terms … ie market value.. as described by the constitution.
shatterzzz – Northern English Roses are the best.
Classics!
Dresses below the knee.
Old Movie Stars Dance to Uptown Funk
Puts hand up.
Crossie
We have Yagan square, named after a First Nations murderer which has become a magnet for derros. To the extent there is a permanent “ temporary” police station there.
Overseen by a fugly statue of the murderer himself a couple of stories high.
That’s the same in Victoria and has been the case for the past 20 years. That’s not wholesale confiscation though as some folks here were suggesting during the last time this issue was raised. It’s certainly interference with property rights though.
Cassie @ 18/6 @ 7:44am
So Ellis uses her bod to get the attention of the boys who give her a leg up.
Yeah sure, she used her sex appeal to get what she wanted and not her talents.
BTW like mod labour not that smart, impractical and unskilled.
Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
June 18, 2023 at 8:09 pm
. Will the suburbanites still believe that assurance?
I’ve been rather sternly reminded that ” follow the process you get an outcome. Our country is being destroyed for economic gain and this helps maintain the little pristine we have.”
Century or more old farms and suburban blocks of any size are far from “pristine”. When they lie all the time, you have reason to suspect that their motives and not pure.
The Calvary Hospital compulsory takeover has not been done on just terms. I don’t think the ACT has paid anything for it. It simply passed legislation to do it.
It’s that but also something else: mental weakness. These people are nihilistic squishes who don’t believe in anything. They end up loving the respectful tone, the soft questions, the friendly demeanor of journalists and the ‘you know what – he isn’t such a bad bloke after alls’ they suddenly get when they turn on their own.
That empty weakling Arnold Schwarzenegger, for example, just had a lovely chat with Chris Wallace on CNN where his rubbishing of Trump and plea for conservatives to become leftists meant he was treated with great reverence.
white adjacent
Um
1. Black
2. Asian
????
Deros
CHUDS
Blue chickens
Greys
Talking dogs/cats/horses
I am struggling here to come to grips with the concept.
JCsays:
June 18, 2023 at 8:16 pm
And even those on suburban blocks less that 1100 sqm might recall the assurances at the time of Mabo/Native Title that they would “not be coming for your suburban backyard”. Well they are now coming for freehold, including some larger suburban backyards. Will the suburbanites still believe that assurance?
B John
Can you satisfy my curiosity. Are there any specific suburban blocks currently in danger?
JC
No, but around 30 years ago we were assured that they would never even come up for discussion. Now they are included in Heritage legislation. Pardon me if I am cynical.
JC
Parks
State held land
https://www.noongar.org.au/about-settlement-agreement
320,000 hectares sighed over
….
Link doesn’t work on this section
Noongar Standard Heritage Agreement – standard processes for determining when and how to carry out heritage surveys on Noongar Lands
For some reason….
That’s the same in Victoria and has been the case for the past 20 years. That’s not wholesale confiscation though as some folks here were suggesting during the last time this issue was raised. It’s certainly interference with property rights though.
Give it time head prefect; loss of property rights is the commie/WEF wetdream. In the meantime if its financially prohibitive for you to do what you want on your property then your property right is non existent.
Gasp!
It’s … it’s … a sporty Beemer!
JC, what’s the political mood like on the Upper East Side?
The video of Bill Shorten perving on Kate Ellis that Cassie referred to this morning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSfRP-zifnw
I promise … its only a cold-sore
I will be very surprised if any farmer actually asks permission from anyone, much less some .gov grifter, to dig a hole or cut down a tree on his property. I foresee massive civil disobedience. I see upthread that Zulu is getting a similar reaction on his patch as well.
I always get fascinating when anyone mentions “getting permission” from some authoritive body or other .. out here in South west Sydney “houso” land you just do it! .. there ain’t anyone, in their right mind, coming out to say, “No, no, no” …
Joh – about (twenty years ago?) the female members members complained that parlyfax house was underheated so that the male members could get around in suits without discomfort.
While the poor li’l incessantly sexually ‘arrassed ladeez were freezing.
The whinging never stops.
If it was nuked from orbit, the issue above would no longer be of any relevance. To anyone. In this galaxy or the next.
Mole
We may differ on this, but I don’t give a flying turkey about state “owned” parks. If aboriginals end up with those, good for them as I’m personally against the state owning any land. I hope aboriginals find some native ornaments in marine parks whereby the can claim ownership and perhaps open them up to fishing. 🙂
That was the agreement that was derailed when six Noongars claimed they hadn’t been consulted, and went to Court demanding billions of dollars in compensation?
A rational consumer isn’t some the most stereotypical Scottish economics lecturer you’ve ever met.
“Och aye laddie, ‘m takin’ tha train tooh inspec’ ma uhn’vest’men’ ‘partments to save $80 on peeeartrol!”
Those were not the days. “Hong Kong is extremely right-wing…” okay dude, calm down.
I think my neighbours have one of those as their weekend car providing the weather is good. For weekdays they have a Honda.
JC
Remember this bait and switch by Howard?
https://amp.smh.com.au/politics/federal/why-are-nationals-voters-angry-about-climate-policies-it-s-not-coal-20210415-p57jjp.html
States able to effectively confiscate property without compensation.
I didn’t not think outright grabbing land is much on the cards, just an intimate adding of 10% to the cost of conducting most business which requires any access to land or water.
The tax situation about overseas work is reasonably simple but quite harsh.If you are working overseas you need to convince the ATO that you are not coming back.If you have property here ,bank accounts etc you have zero chance of convincing them.
Accordingly all your earnings will be taxed in Australia but graciously the ATO will allow you to offset any tax paid in your current country of residence.
It used to be easier to establish foreign residence but it’s hot harder.
I must admit that I haven’t looked at the rules for a while so things may have changed again.
Taylor Swift. Some of the most worst music on the planet.
Not here.
“Oh Well” Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac performed by Rumours of Fleetwood Mac
JC
In any event, the only entities allowed to confiscate land in Australia are the state and federal governments and only then on just terms … ie market value.. as described by the constitution.
The Commonwealth Constitution refers to “just terms”. I’m not sure about the various states, but in NSW there was a notorious case where a farmer effectively had a large part of his land taken out of productive use by the state government, as part of Howard’s “vegetation” get out of jail trick on “carbin” emissions.
It went to the High Court, which rejected any claim for compensation on any terms, just or not.
Indeed, Pancho. It will go beautifully with my Bayern München adidas designer range of leisurewear. 🙂
Z2ka
That court case went all the way to the high court and was dismissed.
That noongar link above has the details
Dover
Judging by the folks I’ve spoken to, there’s not a great deal of support for what they’ve tried in Trump. Even lefties see it as it is – political- which eventually will come back and bite them on the rear. They can’t stand Trump (lefties) and that don’t like what’s happened.
Upper East Side always pristine though.
Bar Beach Swimmersays:
June 18, 2023 at 9:18 pm
only then on just terms … ie market value.. as described by the constitution.
The Calvary Hospital compulsory takeover has not been done on just terms. I don’t think the ACT has paid anything for it. It simply passed legislation to do it.
IIRC, there is ACT legislation dating back to the 1990s, requiring “just terms”, but the hospital acquisition legislation has a clause specifically exempting this case from that law.
6 Reasons DOJ’s ‘Get Trump’ Documents Case Is Seriously Flawed:
Another reason why that Reuters piece Monty was trying to sell recently is tendentious. The indictment rides on the PRA, without it it falls.
RTWT.
Boa bee John
So Cavalry hospital got the Sneakers vs Palmersaurus treatment?
Where the law applies up until you are singled out as a kulak.
Quite right, but it derailed the process for some years, and there were those of us who were wondering if a similar legal dogfight would be a feature of any “Treaty.”
My understanding is that “just terms” is set on valuation by independent valuers. You get your own, which the state pays for incidentally, and then you negotiate from there. My dad’s farm was set off a main road and the state government confiscated about 40 acres along front boundary for road expansion. It was all pretty reasonable and they were actually quite decent about it. That’s just anecdotal though.
Lovely lady … all dramas aside.
Songbird ~ Christine McVie ~ Tribute
An Ozzie Siren with one of this country’s most gifted musical personages … 🙂
Whoops
With Trump
Matrix – That’s interesting you think you noted the same copper – I could have sworn similar in multiple vids over the last few years – thought I was seeing things. Same older white haired cop showing up in a lot of the vision, often acting with unnecessary force.
ATO are prepping for when Bali introduces tax free 5 year visas for foreign sourced income. Remote working makes this very possible to achieve and the loss of their money makes the ATO angry.
Are the rational consumer and the man on the Clapham omnibus related?
Asking for a friend.
thefrollickingmolesays:
June 18, 2023 at 9:37 pm
Boa bee John
So Cavalry hospital got the Sneakers vs Palmersaurus treatment?
Where the law applies up until you are singled out as a kulak.
Indeed. Remember that much of what Hitler did, at least in the early years, was covered by the Enabling Act. That was enough for consignment to a concentration camp, and property confiscation. Also, most of those executed had at least the form of a trial.
Sancho Panser 18/6 @ 9:44am
Garry Glitter is one of yours.
No. The man on the Clapham omnibus has actually existed at various points in time.
The rational consumer, not so much.
My brother in law just did that drive with a friend this afternoon in his Porsche on which he showered $75,000 this year in repairs. He had a wonderful time while my sister and I stayed in where it was warm.
Are there unwritten rules governing tasseled loafers too?
Wanganeen is definitely Aboriginal.
But not Victorian.
that’s the one
Rabz, we had the same sort of attitude the first time we visited Hawaii with our teenage daughters. We rented a Jeep to drive around Oahu. As soon as we took off the daughters’ hairdos that took ages to arrange went up with the wind. There were lots of complaints from the back seat. The final straw arrived when we stopped for lunch and could not leave anything in the car. That afternoon we returned the Jeep and arranged a sedan for the rest of the stay.
Who is buying the BMW?
A bloke I’m on another forum with is a German Car mechanic (from Tennessee) & he loves BMW – he says his family is fed by their oil leaks.
“If it wasn’t for the oil leaks in them, I’d be out of a job”
Apparently the mechanics call them Bring My Wallet.
As big as a whale?
About to set sail?
Good documentary on the reasons for the delays by Ronnie RAAF in taking on the F 111.
I was in primary school and my parents were on the path to divorce in 83.
Stevie Nicks – Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around – Live 1983 US Festival
Bazball update.
Poms 393/8 declared.
Aussies 386 all out.
Re-set and go again.
Seems like the ruling has been updated specifically to cover remotely working from home.
Not surprising, really.
In South Africa, BMW was said to stand for “Blak Man Wants.”
MatrixTransform says:
I says, “you didn’t tell us you have a new girlfriend”
he goes, “I don’t”
I said, ” well, whose car are you driving then?”
The equivalent from the 1980s was the Toyota Celica. A real ladies’ hairdresser’s car.
Don’t see any around any more.
That was enough for consignment to a concentration camp, and property confiscation. Also, most of those executed had at least the form of a trial.
All Communist revolutionaries.
Cash and Rowdy.
—-
woof bark growl:
Cash 2.0 Great Dane at Lake Balboa 12
Pronounced “Silly-car”.
I’ve had BMWs since the 80s and never an oil leak. All German cars are over-engineered.
Driller, please don’t this into another one of the 52 licenses and permits bullshit because you’re craving attention. Remain silent.
Probyn – effin he’ll – unbeleivable – the reality of what Rick – spotty, silent p from the young ones becomes.
Sanchez reckoned once that the carmakers have worked their way through the dictionary and running out of names. I don’t agree as I think they’re still on names beginning with “r”
Bin painting all day.
Doing it myself because my painter is sunning himself in warmer climes and the area I am doing will be really hard to get at when all the fixtures go in.
Hate it.
But you do get to see where the plasterer has cut corners on the finishing and sanding.
Grrrr.
From the Oz. I’ve posted the whole article.
Maybe not the worst, just boring. All of her songs sound the same.
Kiwis liked those big Celicas, they were the Ford Zephyrs of the late seventies, early Eighties.
Can’t remember seeing one in 30 years, saw a restored Datsun 240 Z on the freeway, was surprised how tiny it was compared to modern cars.
She’s also way past her used-by date especially with this hottie taking steps up the ladder.
Zulu,
Could you also put up that article from the Oz – John Howard and property rights (re the Calvary Hospital). Thank you
What I said was that it is a race between Big Pharma and Big Auto to see who would run out of names first.
I was suggesting that car names Tiida and Qashqai indicate that it is end of days in the Brand Naming Department of Big Auto.
But they have my sympathy.
“OK. How about ‘Pinchara’ as a name for our new compact 4WD?”
“Uh-uh. No. It means ‘small penis’ in an ancient Mayan dialect.”
OK.
I just threw up my Hawaiian pizza all over the velour couch.
Oh no. No, no no no no.
No. No, it is not.
Precisely correct. Neuter the people you need to do the nasty stuff, at the exact time you need them to do it.
No.
JCsays:
June 18, 2023 at 10:25 pm
All the best health to your family.
Pineapple on pizza has that effect.
KD
Wouldn’t body camera addition be a good idea though? It would likely trounce any bullshit propagated against the troops from the likes of our esteemed ABC types. It could also help the brass review battlefield tactics too. Just thinking out loud.
CL 18/6 11:53
Effen hell CL
Big Pharma has no idea when it comes to naming drugs.
They need to appeal to the patient’s vanity a bit more.
Example.
Viagra.
I get it. It is a play on “vital” and “vigourous” I think.
But too subtle.
I would go “El Toro” for the stiffy tablets.
And anti-depressants have such depressing names.
Prozac.
Zoleft.
FMD.
They should get the perfume companies to help with the naming.
Sales would rocket up if Prozac was re-branded “Allure” or “Elegance”.
The canned orthodoxy regarding the indictment that ‘OMG! Trump’s in trouble this time’ strikes me as bullshit and has from Day 1.
The Supreme Court (where this will end up) is not going to allow the Intelligence Community to stand over the President and the executive. Not going to happen.
He means Ben Roberts-Smith and a few others.
Sancho Sander
Never whinge about prep or you get to do it all yourself.
Hahaha, that’s Lizzo, Tickler. Demonstrates that we’ve had it all wrong until now. Ugly is now gorgeous. Think of it this way. Lizzo weighs in at 3 Taylor Swifts for 1 lizzo, which means we get two for free.
Unless your story is confirmed by your chauffer, we’ll stick to the first version.
Oh yeah Cowboy, the confirmation and citations angle. We’re still waiting for the 52 licenses and permits bullshit.
I know, I know.
A couple of rough spots and a bit of ‘orange peel’ high up in one corner.
I don’t mind knocking bits off, but filling tiny divots and waiting for it to dry gives me the shits.
Your tears of frustration are delicious.
Yeah Cowboy.
Very rare for a modern car with good seal technology to leak oil in appreciable quantities.
Get Jeeves to take you for a spin in the BMW, you’ll feel so much better.
(Then after you’re safely put away again with a rug across your knees, he’ll pop out to the nearest servo for a half bottle of Castrol.)
There’s the notorious reframing creeping in.
You’re such a worthless piece of envy ridden dogshit, Driller.
Rabz announces that he’s bought himself a new car and appears that he’s a happy little wanderer.
Captain Kebab, though, has to announce that he knows someone who knows someone who knows a BMW mechanic south of Mason Dixon (where else) who reckons that BMWs drip oil from the day of purchase. You envy ridden crudball. Be happy for him.
Chief Defence scientist professor Tanya Monro said the project could enhance the ADF’s war-fighting capabilities and allow early detection of chemical or biological threats.……
…….
And any after hours drinks or other activities we disapprove of.
I think we need to roll this out in federal parliament first. Body worn cameras and the new “ girthmaster Violator health assessment anal probes”.
If it stops just one case of harassment…
JC:
Yeah, I get it. But – bullshit according to who?
What it would devolve to is a coven of fat chicks – who’ve never been anywhere near involved with what it physically takes to actually get through what these people do – analysing frame-by-frame footage of people doing yucky stuff to other people.
Then they would overlay that with the ‘killing with compassion and humility’ garbage propagated by the current lot of ADF brass, and then overlay that with endless ‘policy and procedure’ resulting in commentary similar to ‘ooooh, you shouldn’t have done that because that’s not in the policy’.
Before you know it, you’ll have yet another bunch of lawyers agitating for a charge and/or trial for something that the people viewing it don’t know about, let alone been involved with, and there’ll be an attitude of ‘just take the path of least resistance and put it to a jury’, which is exactly what happened to Pell and Lehrmann et al.
I absolutely can cop the Go-Pro stuff being live-streamed to military commanders during an operation. On occasions. But as a ‘see, we didn’t do anything wrong!’ tool to be dissected by nuffies years after the event, I think it will fail on almost every level.
I heard TAS is more likely to say No than NSW. Plausible?
Good point, KD. Didn’t consider the fat chicks angle.
Exactomundo.
Polite & civil, as usual.
Nice family you got raised in, manners, class, all those things.
Oh yeah, coming from the dipshit calling people “dagos” in a blog argument. Who taught you that, dad? You know, dad who spent his adult life under state supervision?
As I said, you couldn’t be happy for the guy who just bought himself a new car and wanted to talk about it. What a filthy family you come. Just disgusting excrement.
Wow, the gutter dago has to act like a …. gutter dago.
Classy.
Here’s a tip you piece of stinking shit: You don’t like being called a dago – then stop acting like one.
It wouldn’t be some good ‘ole boy not torquing things up proper fer a bit ‘o repeat bizniss now would it?
I think I saw the leaking Beemer thing on an episode of Dukes of Hazzard once.
Ok KD
You are in charge of fitting the girthmasters.
Just be prepared for a lot of calls from Adam Bant complaining his wife’s boyfriend says it’s not girth enough.
“Hey Rabz, your car leaks oil, hahahahahahaha”
Very classier.