Open Thread – Tues 20 June 2023


The Battle of Waterloo: The British Squares Receiving the Charge of the French Cuirassiers, Henri Félix Emmanuel Philippoteaux, 1874

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Arky
June 20, 2023 6:10 pm

I don’t read your blog much anymore to know.

..
Not because it isn’t any good, I hasten to add.
I just stay off the social media’s these days as much as possible.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 20, 2023 6:10 pm

A bit of circumspection is in order, lest you be considered a credulous fool.

I think the credulous fool is more likely to be the person who calls the blog owner ‘you clown’.

Dover is far more patient than I could ever be with improper discourse pretending to be reasoned debate.

miltonf
miltonf
June 20, 2023 6:11 pm
m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 6:16 pm

Lizzie, if there’s one thing that brings out the feral country boy lingo in me, it’s people who think they are better than they are. Closely related is those who are arrogantly dismissive of anyone else’s position despite believing in patently ridiculous things. db ticks both of those boxes.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 6:16 pm

miltonf says:
June 20, 2023 at 6:11 pm

Another ANU waste of space

miltonf,

that is why I added his pedigree – Robert Breunig is director of the Tax and Transfer Policy Institute at the Australian National University.

How to turn stamp duty into a land tax overnight

There is a way that Australia’s most inefficient tax could be phased out without states losing a lot of revenue upfront.

Robert BreunigTax expert

Chris
Chris
June 20, 2023 6:17 pm

BoN! I am excited! I saw a bird I had never seen before, earlier this year. Wasn’t sure what it was, until someone put up a pic on Facebook.
Mallee fowl!
Only ever seen one nest site before, out bush from Kalgoorlie. The nest was a YUGE pile of sticks and bits; I understand they run it like a silage, controlling the warmth of decay to keep the eggs coddled.
I have seen two sightings in Feb/March/April, one an individual and one a pair, same locality.
Worryingly they were beside a busy road, but I have been a regular there; I have watched for a cloud of feathers beside the road and so far so good.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 20, 2023 6:19 pm

Starting early! I believe you: today I had a noisy at my office window collecting spider webs to line her nest.

Old Mum Currawong has been back lately. A few juniors had come over for the bits of Attapuss’ leftover dins that I put out, but the Old Mum arrived. I recognised her immediately and we had one of our little talks, with her beady yellow eyes following every soft murmur I spoke to her.

Then this morning, snuggled in bed at 8.30 in comes Attapuss whining for his brekkie, and I ignored him till be went away having a wail down the hallway; but next we heard the distinctive Currawong cry in the Jacaranda outside out bedroom which leads onto a verandah. Not once, not twice, not three times nor ever four, but five times did she chorus to us. So I got up and fed her.

This cruel cold weather is hard on birds. Less so on spoiled cats, who have to wait till I’m ready.

miltonf
miltonf
June 20, 2023 6:20 pm

Appreciate you posting it Old Ozzie- these marxist dons are an absolute menace. 10th rate trash.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 20, 2023 6:22 pm

Mum Currawong is taking stuff to a larder down in the lower garden. I think she’s nesting again.
I wonder if she perhaps even has some chicks. Lardering, which she does for chicks, seems to be early.

Delta A
Delta A
June 20, 2023 6:28 pm

people who go to live shows in Thailand

We had a live show thrown in as a freebie when we visited Thailand. Chew your leg off boring!

(Sorry. I’ll see myself out.)

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 6:30 pm

Making predictions is treacherousgiven that circumstances and intentions are subject to to change, but I’m not going to avoid making them if they’re reasonable in the circumstances. That would be intellectually cowardly.

So by your words upthread, you have been a coward for the past six months.

You are all over the shop db, take a visit to the hall of mirrors.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 20, 2023 6:35 pm

db ticks both of those boxes

With regard to you Munt, DB has the patience of Job and the goodwill of Mother Theresa. And stays firm to his intent to have as open a blog as possible.

You wouldn’t get that much consideration from me. Especially as you haven’t apologised to the blog for your approval of violence towards women. Nor have you shown any capacity for good faith, ie. sincerity in your commentary towards others. You are simply trolling. But I guess we all knew that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 6:35 pm

You have to respect your own ignorance.

That’s the most hilarious thing I’ve ever seen Monty write…

Arky
June 20, 2023 6:37 pm

Making predictions is important.
Remembering what they were and if you were right is the important bit of the prediction.
Doing it out loud in public is the brave part.
I don’t fault you for making predictions.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 20, 2023 6:37 pm

Now why would the USA sound soft with China about Taiwan?

Biden Doesn’t Know What Year It Is, Has to Be Led Around by the Hand

Ah, there’s the reason.

Joe Biden was again at his beach house in Delaware for more vacation over the weekend.

Weekend at Biden’s. Almost writes itself.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 6:38 pm

“lest you be considered a credulous fool.”

The pervert apologist would never ever have written that about Sinclair.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 6:39 pm

I didn’t even get to serve in ping pong.

Delta A
Delta A
June 20, 2023 6:41 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
June 20, 2023 at 5:30 pm
Here’s why women should not be in combat situations.

Thanks for that post, Elizabeth. It shows exactly what would happen to women on the frontline in war. Then there is the (almost certain) possibility of rape and mutilation, goading her comrades to risky responses borne of anguish.

The best service women can offer their country is one where they are as safe as possible, whilst supporting the efforts of their fighting men.

Chris
Chris
June 20, 2023 6:42 pm

With regard to you Munt, DB has the patience of Job and the goodwill of Mother Theresa. And stays firm to his intent to have as open a blog as possible.

You wouldn’t get that much consideration from me. Especially as you haven’t apologised to the blog for your approval of violence towards women. Nor have you shown any capacity for good faith, ie. sincerity in your commentary towards others. You are simply trolling. But I guess we all knew that.

Monts displays good qualities including flashes of intellectual charity; not displayed in that remark at all.
But when did we let a day go by without expatiating on the dumb sods that differ with us, including a certain threat to the world supply of donuts?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2023 6:42 pm

I can remember when Crikey! was the brave new world of innernets and was going to rule the world.
How is that working out?

I remember when Magrot Kingston, aka The Margoyle (both Tim Blair-isms) created her Webdiary. Initially as part of Fauxfacts but when even they realised how unhinged she was they let her go, and she took her Webdiary with her.

I also recall some of the slobbering tributes to her genius, including some guy who is by now probably some unnoticed drone in the public service settled where the upward force of his progressive devotion is in equilibrium with the downward force of his lack of progressive accomplishment.

He wrote of the day (in the future) when his son would express astonishment that there was a world before the Margoyle’s Webdiary and its especial brand of citizen j’ism.

Well, we have seen the world where ‘citizen journalists’ post their reports under an editorial regime to filter out disinformation – pre-Musk Twitter.

The pre-Musk Twitter (Twatter) where people were censored because Twats couldn’t refute opinions they did not like.

And, as far as I know, Margoyle still spends her time in a bathrobe at a table sized for children and in a sterile ward arranging her teeth on a napkin in order of size, shape, or name – depends on the day and the meds.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 6:44 pm

You have to respect your own ignorance. If you are arrogant enough to gloss over the holes in your own knowledge, you may sometimes get lucky when things fall your way, but more often you will look like a goose.

The fat fascist fool needs to look in a mirror occasionally.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 20, 2023 6:46 pm

people who go to live shows in Thailand

Would that be Thai Opera, like Japanese or Chinese Opera?

Must be.

Although I did hear of a Thai place where men take their choice of younger fellows swimming around in a glass tank on display as in a restaurant they do to fish. That sort of show, or worse? Heaven forbid.

Chris
Chris
June 20, 2023 6:46 pm

The best service women can offer their country is one where they are as safe as possible, whilst supporting the efforts of their fighting men.

Whatever they damn well turn their hands to! Filling shells with TNT, piloting drones, riveting, ferry pilots for fighting aircraft, running computers, Prime Ministering a country at war, sniping;
but leave out pretending to be what one is not.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 6:47 pm

Mallee fowl!

Chris – never had a mallee fowl or a bush turkey at the Cafe. Cool! At rare times I see a rail or a quail in the local reserve a few hundred metres from my house, but I don’t get the ground birds here since I’m in a fairly built up suburb. I had a nice walk around the reserve this arvo, temperature was cold – well below BoM’s forecast maximum – but there were a nice bunch of wrens and thornbills in the brush to observe.

Lizzie – The currawongs like starting as soon as they can, since the channel-bill cuckoos return in about September. If they can get going before they arrive they can avoid raising an enormous mouth-with-wings. That seems to me to be the equation: nature in tooth and parasitism.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 6:47 pm

… but when even they realised how unhinged she was they let her go, and she took her Webdiary with her.

Fauxfacts also gave us Van Badham. They sure can pick ‘em.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 6:48 pm

Then there is the (almost certain) possibility of rape and mutilation, goading her comrades to risky responses borne of anguish.

There were such cases of gang rape and mutilation of Israeli women soldiers, in the 1973 war, yes.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 6:49 pm

“Monts displays good qualities including flashes of intellectual charity; not displayed in that remark at all.”

Really, I don’t see any good qualities, and his justification for violence against those whose opinions he doesn’t like is not a “good quality”. When he writes that he’s all for “punching a Nazi”…that’s code for punching you, me and others.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 6:50 pm

m0ntysays:
June 20, 2023 at 6:16 pm
Lizzie, if there’s one thing that brings out the feral country boy lingo in me, it’s people who think they are better than they are. Closely related is those who are arrogantly dismissive of anyone else’s position despite believing in patently ridiculous things. db ticks both of those boxes.

LOL. Mirror, mirror, on the wall …

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 6:51 pm

A land tax, ideally an annual impost on the unimproved value of land, is far more efficient and equitable

This has reared it’s ugly head more frequently of late.
Of course, it’s “da equity”.
Except for the pea and thimble promise that it is a “revenue neutral” straight switch from transactional stamp duty to an annual levy.
You just know we will be left with a “transitional” arrangement which never goes away … a slightly reduced stamp duty, plus an annual charge.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2023 6:51 pm
Delta A
Delta A
June 20, 2023 6:53 pm

Mallee fowl!

My late brother, a loveable pyromaniac turned loveable greenie, received an award for his work in promoting Mallee fowl and their environment.

He took hour after hour of video of these boy birds obsessively covering up their eggs*, then uncovering them to cool them down again. Rinse and repeat, ad naseum. And he loved to show the videos at every opportunity. I got hit several times because I loved the silly bugger, but it was endless, truly leg-chewing entertainment.

No sign of the females while poor old dad ran himself ragged.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 6:55 pm

This has reared it’s ugly head more frequently of late.

Long been a favourite with people who think they can spend your income better than you.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 6:55 pm

You just know we will be left with a “transitional” arrangement which never goes away … a slightly reduced stamp duty, plus an annual charge.

You mean to say they’re not proposing it out of the goodness of their hearts to benefit present and prospective home owners?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 6:56 pm

Victorian politicians win 3.5 per cent pay hike

The base salary for Victorian politicians has been bumped to $198,839 after they were awarded a generous pay rise, with Daniel Andrews to remain the country’s best paid premier

Words fail me…

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 6:56 pm

That’s it.

The final straw.

My sub-editor (formatting) is sacked.

They’d better not tell me they weren’t warned.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 20, 2023 6:57 pm

Delta suggested

The best service women can offer their country is one where they are as safe as possible, whilst supporting the efforts of their fighting men.

Would a comfy chair in an AWACs at 29,000ft be safe enough?
Bombers and fighter jets seem to be on the way out with cruise missiles and UCAVs taking over.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 6:57 pm

Daniel Andrews to remain the country’s best paid premier

I take it he’s not subject to performance reviews.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 20, 2023 6:59 pm

There is nothing worth watching on the TV, so the wonderful Sunbather is watching an old match between Souths and Easts from 1968 in black and white – entertained notwithstanding the blurry images – thank goodness for old videotapes

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 7:00 pm

I’m not sure people will fall for that “We’ll remove these taxes with this new tax” after Howard and the GST.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 20, 2023 7:00 pm

Daniel Andrews to remain the country’s best paid premier

The Viktoristans love him – they voted him back in.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2023 7:02 pm

Fauxfacts also gave us Van Badham. They sure can pick ‘em.

They breed them.

miltonf
miltonf
June 20, 2023 7:04 pm

A land tax, ideally an annual impost on the unimproved value of land, is far more efficient and equitable

This has reared it’s ugly head more frequently of late.

Yes first I heard of it was from the unlamented liboral gubmint in NSW. Essentially another assault on property rights. You already have to pay rates.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 7:05 pm

Mother Lodesays:

June 20, 2023 at 5:56 pm

If you are going to Osaka I can direct you to my favourite restaurant. In Amerika-mura amazingly.

Thanks for the tip, ML, but no Osaka this trip.
This will be our first time in Japan, but I doubt it will be the last.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 20, 2023 7:06 pm

Europe breaks against puberty blockers as US becomes outlier in defending treatments for transgender minors.

Note too how young the US protesters demanding these ‘rights’ are. They are barely out of adolescence themselves, stamping their feet and howling it’s all so unfair, it’s their transition and they’ll trans if they want to.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 20, 2023 7:06 pm

“I think that’s reflective of the nature of the debate so far. We haven’t been able to have the debate with the community as much as we’d like to. We’ve started putting that in process.”

Says Dean Parkin, who is apparently the head honcho of the Yes campaign.

Is it just me, or does getting the debate out of Canberra and into the community sound eerily reminiscent of once she has some clear air?

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 7:07 pm

Sleazy and his comrades went to the May 2022 election promising more transparency, more honesty and “more polite discourse”. Well, we’ve seen just how transparent and honest this government has been around da Knickerless affair and her multi-million dollar payout for a job well done, and this government isn’t very interested in “more polite discourse”……

Government refuses to rebuke Mayo’s Howard comments
Jenna Clarke

The government has refused to rebuke Thomas Mayo’s comments that described former prime minister John Howard as a “bastard” and threatened to tear down Australian institutions.

Videos discovered by the No campaign show the member of the First Nations Referendum Working Group also saying politicians would be “punished” if they ignored advice regarding the voice, as first reported by The Australian’s Geoff Chambers on Monday.

A prominent face of the No campaign and Opposition Indigenous Australians spokeswoman Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, on Tuesday referred questions to Senator Katy Gallagher in the Senate regarding Mr Mayo’s conduct.

“The government claims the voice to parliament proposal is modest yet as per recent reporting, Thomas Mayo also says we keep going we maintain this momentum until we change the system until we tear down the institutions that harm our people. Does the Minister agree with these comments?,” Senator Price asked.

Senator Gallagher, who is the Minister representing the Minister for Indigenous Australians Linda Burney in the upper house, deflected the question on Tuesday.

“I don’t want I don’t want my answer to be misrepresented. I haven’t seen the comments that Senator Nampijinpa Price refers to but I have listened to Mr Mayo in the past. I have always found him to be an articulate and passionate advocate for the voice.

“I accept that it is not a voice Senator Nampijinpa Price agrees with, but this referendum is an opportunity to bring the country together not to divide. It’s about working together, showing each other respect, listening to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people about matters that are relevant to them.”

Vote NO to this race based Voice, all it will do is empower grubs like Mayo.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 20, 2023 7:07 pm

Fauxfacts also gave us Van Badham. They sure can pick ‘em.

And who could ever forget Clammy Ford – haven’t heard much from her lately — perhaps her gorgeous little boy changed her from a hater of all men to hmmm …they’re not so bad after all.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 20, 2023 7:11 pm

There is nothing worth watching on the TV, so …

It’s 24/7 cricket and The Ashes around here. Hairy hauls into bed in the early hours and the Teev is on again as soon as he’s up. Blessed relief right now, he’s at the gym. That, and the supermarket, are his only excursions away from what used to be called the box, now the Big Screen.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2023 7:12 pm

There is nothing worth watching on the TV,

Amadeus is on Netflix tomorrow.

I am still working out what food and wine goes with it.

It is cold with lots of indoors shots, so something hot rather than spicy, high protein, with warm brownish hues. And red wine!

A poached chicken salad and Pinot Grigio and gelding shears is not the order of the day.

mem
mem
June 20, 2023 7:13 pm

Tonight at 7pm what do I see? All of a sudden when things get tight in Victoria for energy it finds some gas. Indeed 23% energy in Victoria is now being supplied by gas whilst renewables are only providing 1% (solar and wind together) and good old brown coal is providing the majority at 55%. Vic is also importing 21% from Tas hydro to keep lights .I’m not sure that we, the public, are being kept abreast of the shenanigans being played to fiddle our fuel supply and the high prices.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 20, 2023 7:16 pm

A poached chicken salad and Pinot Grigio and gelding shears is not the order of the day.

If it were me it’d be Pollo a la Cacciatora and polenta with a nice Merlot. Salute

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 7:16 pm

m0nty says:
June 20, 2023 at 6:08 pm

Let me tell you a secret about intelligence, db. Personal intelligence, not the military tautology.

You have to respect your own ignorance. If you are arrogant enough to gloss over the holes in your own knowledge, you may sometimes get lucky when things fall your way, but more often you will look like a goose.

I can’t help but defer to your extensive knowledge of the nature of ignorance.

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 7:23 pm

If you are going to Osaka I can direct you to my favourite restaurant. In Amerika-mura amazingly.

Sancho may not be stopping in Osaka but I am.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 7:26 pm

H B Bear says:
June 20, 2023 at 6:47 pm

… but when even they realised how unhinged she was they let her go, and she took her Webdiary with her.

Fauxfacts also gave us Van Badham. They sure can pick ‘em.

Margot Kingston.
Van Badham.
And, of course, Catherine Deveny.

Bruce
Bruce
June 20, 2023 7:27 pm

The entire “battery” caper is as dodgy as Hell.

Megajoules in vs Megajoules out is the ONLY metric.

There is NO SUCH THING as a “lossless” system.

We are being lied to by utter sociopaths, and that is just the “good bit”.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 7:27 pm

Senator Gallagher, who is the Minister representing the Minister for Indigenous Australians Linda Burney in the upper house, deflected the question on Tuesday.

So we have a social worker and a school teacher* responsible for presenting the case for one of the most significant referendums ever presented to the Australian electorate.

A cynic might aver that Labor has set this up to fail.

* No disrespect implied to these otherwise valuable callings.

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 7:28 pm

We have bought 21 day tourist rail passes which should cover all longer trips, will get metro tickets for Tokyo and whatever we need Narita to Tokyo.

bespoke
bespoke
June 20, 2023 7:31 pm

Local affluent white female liberal claims that the New College mascot, a banyan tree, “closely resemble[s] an angry, threatening brown individual.”

Advice for white libs: if you see a tree and immediately think “looks like a scary minority to me,” you might be the racist.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 7:32 pm

A cynic might aver that Labor has set this up to fail.

I don’t normally go in for conspiracy theories, but, if the referendum does fail, won’t Albo just legislate the Voice, saying the failure is proof that Australians are a mob of rednecks, who can’t be trusted to vote on such issues?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 7:32 pm

A cynic might aver that Labor has set this up to fail.

Alternatively, one might wonder how Albo could set it up to succeed?

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2023 7:34 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
June 20, 2023 at 6:38 pm
“lest you be considered a credulous fool.”

The pervert apologist would never ever have written that about Sinclair.

Let’s not forget the pervert apologist’s constant tongueing of Sinc is why Sinc informed us that munster would be a wise and benevolent blogmaster for us. puke. bleaaaach.

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 7:35 pm

Kanazawa and Takayama look great.
Pencilled in for potential second visit.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 20, 2023 7:36 pm

Local affluent white female liberal claims that the New College mascot, a banyan tree, “closely resemble[s] an angry, threatening brown individual.”

She’s right.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 7:37 pm

Seems Barry Cable is to be stripped of his football honors, and removed from the Hall of Fame, after the court found he had sexually interfered with young girls.

cohenite
June 20, 2023 7:37 pm

Good that this tommy mayonnaise thug has come out of the closet. Wouldn’t it be great if he and thorpie got together in a traditional 3rd nations way.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 7:38 pm

Especially as you haven’t apologised to the blog for your approval of violence towards women.

Cranky keeps banging on and on and on about this, but it never happened. I did not approve any violence towards women.

You lot do have some funny ideas.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 7:39 pm

Barry Cable: WA footy great to be stripped of ‘legend’ status, removed from Australian Football Hall of Fame
Ben Smith
The West Australian
Tue, 20 June 2023 1:59PM

Barry Cable is set to be stripped of his ‘legend’ status and removed from the Australian Football Hall of Fame in the wake of being found by a judge to have sexually abused a young girl.

The Herald Sun has reported former Perth, East Perth and North Melbourne great will be stripped of his legend status in the wake of the historical sexual abuses he was found to have committed.

The decision is set to be made after the Australian Football Hall of Fame dinner next Tuesday, with the AFL Commission due to convene prior to discuss a number of issues, including Cable’s eligibility.

The Herald Sun understands Cable has been urged to resign before the decision, which will likely result in the commission writing to him to inform him he has been stripped of football’s highest honour.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 7:39 pm

I don’t normally go in for conspiracy theories, but, if the referendum does fail, won’t Albo just legislate the Voice, saying the failure is proof that Australians are a mob of rednecks, who can’t be trusted to vote on such issues?

Divide and rule.

Someone on 32% of the primary vote needs all the help they can get.

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2023 7:41 pm

Monotesticle is starting to backpedal. Faster mono, faster!

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 7:42 pm

“Cranky keeps banging on and on and on about this, but it never happened. I did not approve any violence towards women.”

Yes you did.

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2023 7:42 pm
m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 7:43 pm

An honest person would have admitted they made a mistake about the last 6 months whereas you decided to take a cheap shot. Speaking of mirrors, it pains you every time you look in one, Monty.

You literally just did the exact thing you accused me of. Are you even listening to yourself?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 7:45 pm

mem says:
June 20, 2023 at 7:13 pm

Tonight at 7pm what do I see? All of a sudden when things get tight in Victoria for energy it finds some gas.

I think I know where they are getting some of it.
The Iona gas plant at Port Campbell pumps surplus gas produced during periods of low demand into depleted underground wells to be recovered during periods of high demand.
The underground storage has a capacity of 26 petajoules.
At this time in 2021 and 2022 it contained about 16 petajoules.
I wonder what it is right now.
That is the buffer which protects the winter energy market in Victoria and SA, and will help disguise renewable lunacy until it is too late.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 20, 2023 7:46 pm

The lights are going to go out folks.
It’s no joke.
The mad bastards can’t even get the materials to build the ruinable vision let alone get farmers to agree to put them on their land.
The noises from the energy industry today at the Melbourne energy conference is thinly disguised admissions of panic.
Albo and Bonehead are too thick to know the signal.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 7:49 pm

Yes you did.

Devastating riposte Cranky, your usual intellectual standard.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 7:50 pm

I don’t really believe Albanese set it up to fail, but if fail it does that’s the way he’ll go.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 7:51 pm

rosie says:
June 20, 2023 at 7:28 pm

We have bought 21 day tourist rail passes which should cover all longer trips, will get metro tickets for Tokyo and whatever we need Narita to Tokyo.

We will be there roughly three weeks with Tokyo book-ending the trip, so 21 day passes for intercity trips should cover it.
Apart from Tokyo, I think we will figure out the metro subway stuff on the fly.
I think Takayama and Kanazawa are relatively small and easy to get around.

MatrixTransform
June 20, 2023 7:52 pm

so probably vanadium flow

hmm … like solid state, flow batteries have been around for a very long time too

power is proportional to plate-size and energy is proportional to volume and all that
too bad the negative electrolyte is disturbingly toxic
and energy density is a bit shit
and severe temperature constraints
etc

the iron-chromium RFB isnt any less toxic either

still, probably slightly less poisonous than JC is

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 7:53 pm

“Devastating riposte Cranky, your usual intellectual standard.”

You don’t like the truth, do you pervert apologist? Your limited intellect struggles with truth and facts. I think my intellectual standard here is pretty high.

Oh and pervert apologist, why are you here? Only a few days ago you were denouncing “us lot”, however you can’t stay away from “us lot”, is it because you have no friends?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 7:56 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
June 20, 2023 at 7:32 pm
A cynic might aver that Labor has set this up to fail.

I don’t normally go in for conspiracy theories, but, if the referendum does fail, won’t Albo just legislate the Voice, saying the failure is proof that Australians are a mob of rednecks, who can’t be trusted to vote on such issues?

He can if he likes, but without the Constitutional change, all he will end up with is an updated ATSIC, with all of its known downsides.

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 7:57 pm

I shall be looking at any mature Australian couples on the train from Tokyo to Kyoto with eyes of suspicion if you happen to be travelling in September.

cohenite
June 20, 2023 7:57 pm

You lot do have some funny ideas.

Thanks dickless. As Thomas Love Peacock famously spluttered:

The worst thing is good enough to be laughed at, though it be good for nothing else; and the best thing, though it be good for something else, is good for nothing better.

That’s why we laugh at you

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 7:58 pm

however you can’t stay away from “us lot”, is it because you have no friends?

It’s not as though his own blog is attracting a roaring crowd of devastating wits….

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2023 7:59 pm

Cohenite,
that is an awesome quote.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 7:59 pm

m0ntysays:
June 20, 2023 at 7:38 pm
Especially as you haven’t apologised to the blog for your approval of violence towards women.

Cranky keeps banging on and on and on about this, but it never happened. I did not approve any violence towards women.

Suuuuuure you didn’t. You spoke out angrily about the many Victoria Police attacks on women during the COVID lockdown, and against the attacks on Posy Parker, both in Melbourne and New Zealand.

I remember, the sun was shaded out by the vast armada of flying pigs.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 8:01 pm

Pogriasays:
June 20, 2023 at 7:41 pm
Monotesticle is starting to backpedal.

Beautiful!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 8:03 pm

 1

rosiesays:

June 20, 2023 at 7:57 pm

I shall be looking at any mature Australian couples on the train from Tokyo to Kyoto with eyes of suspicion if you happen to be travelling in September.

I’ll be looking a bit like this.

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 8:05 pm

You have a Scottish accent?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 8:06 pm

I shall be looking at any mature Australian couples on the train from Tokyo to Kyoto

Keep an eye out for those with upside-down pineapples on their luggage.

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 8:07 pm

Uh oh.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2023 8:09 pm

“We do not want to be part of the colonial constitution and the attempt to rule over us and our lands.

Except for CentreLink and the $39billion a year .. that is ..!

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 8:09 pm

I know what would happen if I pointed out one of those to my travelling companions.
There would be repeated outbreaks of giggling interspersed with ewws.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2023 8:10 pm

no Osaka this trip.

It is funny that, when I was a kid and to the extent I knew such things from war movies back in the 70’s say, Japan was still the defeated enemy – even though a lot of my childhood cartoon faves were from there: Prince Planet and Marine Boy (Neptina was a babe in my 5-year old eyes).

It is funny how ‘Japanese’ the music is. Clearly not if the western tradition. But who cares, as a kid they were riveting cartoons, and as it turns out rather more intellectually sublime than Huckleberry Hound.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2023 8:11 pm

Don’t forget to show your workings Special. Don’t just pull stuff out your arse. That’s where the real LOLs are.
https://ibb.co/y540Htg

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 8:14 pm

too bad the negative electrolyte is disturbingly toxic
and energy density is a bit shit

MT – the plus with flow batteries is you can have two ginormous tanks full of catholyte and anolyte. And only electrolytic one cell between them to charge up or release electricity. So the capital cost is not too bad.

On the other hand with vanadium the energy density is limited by the solubility of the vanadium ions V2+, V3+, V4+ and V5+ depending. At best a vanadium electrolyte might have 50 g/L of the good stuff…so 5%. Can’t be higher than that because of aqueous solubility. On the other hand ginormous storage tanks are cheap, so as a grid backup I can see a use for these critters.

I prefer sodium sulfur batteries for that duty but. More compact, cheaper materials, although they have to operate at about 200 C.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 8:17 pm

General mUntler at 6.16:

Lizzie, if there’s one thing that brings out the feral country boy lingo in me, it’s people who think they are better than they are

mUntler, you’re not hitting the target here. At all.

In fact, and to use a bit of ‘feral country boy lingo’ – you couldn’t hit a bull in the arse with a bucket of wheat.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 8:18 pm

“only one electrolytic cell”…I should edit. Grr.

I’ve been watching clips of the movie Lucy with Scarlett Johansson. I need some of what she was on.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 8:18 pm

“We do not want to be part of the colonial constitution and the attempt to rule over us and our lands.

You were conquered so utterly as few races have ever been.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2023 8:19 pm

BTW, the Immigration Minister announced that he just issued 7,900
Visas to Afghans, and he sees that figure as ‘a floor, not a ceiling’.

Bit baffling? .. the media keeps telling me the Taliban are bloody thirsty savages intent on holding the populace in thrall thru terror but, apparently, they are quite happy to allow folk who aren’t happy to leave .. peacefully ……..!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 8:22 pm

You were conquered so utterly as few races have ever been.

Murdering a few white settlers, their wives and children doesn’t make you Sitting Bull at Little Big Horn.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2023 8:28 pm

So who has an axe to grind re Entsch, who’s feeding the Oz?
Sounds pretty close to home.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 8:29 pm

I am thinking the Barnesy headband will enable to fit right in.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 8:30 pm

Cassie

Oh and pervert apologist, why are you here? Only a few days ago you were denouncing “us lot”, however you can’t stay away from “us lot”, is it because you have no friends?

It’s because his own blog is a wasteland. Last time I looked, the most recent article was in early April, a rebuttal of a comment you made here. The only comments visible in the recent comment’s list were from the Fat Fascist Fool, Homer the Idiot and Steve from Brissy.

I didn’t bother reading either the article or the recent comments. Life is too short.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 8:30 pm

I am thinking the Barnesy headband will enable to fit right in

Bring back some Hattori Hanzo steel.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 8:30 pm

feelthebernsays:

June 20, 2023 at 8:28 pm

So who has an axe to grind re Entsch, who’s feeding the Oz?
Sounds pretty close to home.

I think we are seeing some good old fashioned score settling.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 20, 2023 8:33 pm

Yes23 campaign director Dean Parkin and Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney have distanced themselves from comments made by prominent Yes campaigner Thomas Mayo, who threatened that politicians would be punished if they ignore the voice advisory body.

Mr Mayo – who sits on the board of Australians for Indigenous Constitutional Recognition which leads the Yes23 campaign – has previously said colonial institutions must be torn down and that the voice was a step towards “reparations and compensation”.

After The Australian revealed comments made by the militant unionist between 2020 and 2023, including calling John Howard a “bastard”, senior Yes campaigners on Tuesday called for a “respectful” conversation.

Darkies finding the inVoice. From the Oz.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2023 8:37 pm

So who has an axe to grind re Entsch, who’s feeding the Oz?
Sounds pretty close to home.
I think we are seeing some good old fashioned score settling.

Bit late the opm’s spent and the profit banked ………!

MatrixTransform
June 20, 2023 8:37 pm

from Wiki…

Early on the morning of September 21, 2011, a 2000 kilowatt NaS battery system manufactured by NGK, owned by Tokyo Electric Power Company used for storing electricity and installed at the Tsukuba, Japan Mitsubishi Materials Corporation plant caught fire. Following the incident, NGK temporarily suspended production of NaS batteries

2000 kW … far-fkn-out !

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2023 8:39 pm

Watching Sky last night, they showed a very ugly, thin-lipped, ghastly female from the far-left Grattan institute preaching about how all gas appliances need to be removed from Australian homes pronto so that this country can reach “net zero emissions”

Unfortunately, the Grattan institute is writing the policies of the federal government.
Scary shit.

Beertruk
June 20, 2023 8:39 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare:
June 20, 2023 at 5:30 pm
Here’s why women should not be in combat situations.

Here is another brutal reason.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 8:41 pm

“Unfortunately, the Grattan institute is writing the policies of the federal government.
Scary shit.”

Yep.

Gabor
Gabor
June 20, 2023 8:44 pm

Pogria says:
June 20, 2023 at 7:34 pm

“Cassie of Sydneysays:
June 20, 2023 at 6:38 pm
“lest you be considered a credulous fool.”

The pervert apologist would never ever have written that about Sinclair.”

Let’s not forget the pervert apologist’s constant tongueing of Sinc is why Sinc informed us that munster would be a wise and benevolent blogmaster for us. puke. bleaaaach.

Funny that, like most normal person who detects the BS of politicians, the Cat community saw the real M0nty and duly rejected him.

Same as they did with the Lollipop blog, to an extent. Dictatorial disguised as “no BS” allowed.

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2023 8:44 pm

Weather report says it will be -5 here in the wee hours of the morning. Since I moved here, the cold has taken a bit of getting used to. I have always hated the cold, but I am adapting. I see the beauty in a hard frost and I was surprised at how much I enjoyed the snow dump early last month. Fire is burning fiercely and I am snug in my recliner with two dogs and revolving cats to keep me or them warm.
Just thought I’d share. 😀

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 20, 2023 8:45 pm

Complex Systems Won’t Survive the Competence Crisis:

Excellent essay, thanks for sharing.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2023 8:46 pm

Might not be everyone’s cup of tea but as a stamp collector this isn’t a bad offer .. your own pix on a stamp (sheet of 20) for $27 .. on special from usual price of $37 ..
You just upload your pix and choose a frame ..
comes out great I had one of the 8 grandees together pix dun and has turned out perfect …
https://ibb.co/QbsPycc
https://auspost.com.au/sending/stamps/personalised-stamps

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 8:48 pm

2000 kW … far-fkn-out !

NaSx grid support batteries of 1 or 2 MWh capacity have been around for a long time.

The chemistry is elegant. Can’t be used for consumer stuff as they have to operate above 200 C.
But sodium is abundant, the ocean is full of it. And sulfur is nearly as abundant. So I like the chemistry and economics of the system.

Johnny Rotten
June 20, 2023 8:49 pm

What’s the cost to Australia of keeping a Ten Pound ingrate

I wouldn’t know as I paid my own way to Australia in 1976 after being invited here by the Australian Government to help improve the stock. Well, haven’t you seen the sheep looking happier lately.

So, you reckon that most of the 39 Billion Australian Dollars goes on wages for White Professionals. LOL. Please show me the evidence for that ridiculous statement.

No, Head Case and a Suitable Case for Treatment. Just do us all a favour and go out and play in the traffic at Rush Hour. Now, that could be very entertaining for all of those blood sport enthusiasts.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 8:50 pm

Toad:

Here’s why women should not be in combat situations

Brilliant.

You could see it. The stocky Mah-reen chicky poncing all over the ring, suitably empowered by all the glossy pamphlets – until she hit the deck from the first punch.

Then a slowly devolving series of standing eight counts, turning her back on her opponent and hanging onto the ropes (while said opponent excellently shrugs his shoulders to the crowd) until her grrrl-power brought her back for a final go, which ended with her getting a straight right, right down the pipe. Goodnight.

The finale was her absolute refusal to touch gloves with her opponent once she was eventually upright.

Reality’s a bit different. Now piss off, toots, because at least one of the crowd who’s going outside the wire in the morning wants a sandwich.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 8:52 pm

Johnny Rottensays:

June 20, 2023 at 8:49 pm

What’s the cost to Australia of keeping a Ten Pound ingrate

I wouldn’t know as I paid my own way to Australia in 1976 after being invited here by the Australian Government to help improve the stock. 

And thank you.
The national goat herd has shown some improvement since your arrival.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 8:52 pm

Here’s why women should not be in combat situations.

It might not be a “combat situation”, but when the A.D.F bought in mixed sex units in basic training, there was an outbreak of court’s martial s where the instructors couldn’t keep their paws off the girls, with all that that entailed. There was a case where all the girls on the course put in money, and the first one to seduce the drill instructor won the lot…

shatterzzz
June 20, 2023 8:53 pm

Watching Sky last night, they showed a very ugly, thin-lipped, ghastly female from the far-left Grattan institute preaching about how all gas appliances need to be removed from Australian homes pronto so that this country can reach “net zero emissions”

NSW Housing has approximately 250 000 properties .. at least 95% have gas connected thru a decades old contract with AGL (AGL payz NSW gummint for each property connected) ……..
I can’t quite picture Ho Chi Minns okaying a full conversion to all electric out of gummint funds .. LOL!

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 8:54 pm

“Lollipop blog”

Is that Dash Cat?

It’s coming up two years since Sinclair suddenly pulled the plug.

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2023 8:55 pm

Shatterzzz,
that is an achingly beautiful portrait of your grandchildren. You are a very fortunate soul.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2023 8:55 pm

Tasmanian senator Jacqui Lambie has referred senior leadership of the Australian Defence Force to the International Criminal Court over alleged war crimes committed in Afghanistan.

Well done.
Putting the shiny bums through the wringer.

miltonf
miltonf
June 20, 2023 8:58 pm

Sinc was great with the first Catallaxy files and I appreciate it very much but he’s not a good judge of charcacter.

Johnny Rotten
June 20, 2023 8:59 pm

Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.

– T. S. Eliot

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 9:00 pm

bern

Unfortunately, the Grattan institute is writing the policies of the federal government.

So why do we have policy branches and divisions in the Commonwealth Public Service?

miltonf
miltonf
June 20, 2023 9:01 pm

Set up by Bracks and Costello apparently.

Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2023 9:01 pm

I had a nice walk around the reserve this arvo, temperature was cold – well below BoM’s forecast maximum –

I have noticed the same particularly in the last six weeks, forecast for both daily maxima and minima are at least two degrees off the actual temperatures. It just so happens that BOM continually overestimates when you would think they might scale it down after a while when their forecasts don’t pan out and always in one direction. One would be tempted to think the higher forecasts are to mask the actual cooling which must not be acknowledged.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2023 9:02 pm

The Australian Federal Government has released a new Critical Minerals Strategy, which sets out to strengthen global energy supply chains and achieve net zero emissions.

Madeleine King, Minister for Resources and Northern Australia, has released the new Critical Minerals Strategy to make Australia a globally significant producer of raw and processed critical minerals.

That sounds exciting – although I stupidly thought Australia was already reasonably globally significant in the minerals and energy sector.

Strategically, Australia benefits from mineral geology and scale, and increasingly struggles with the Dead Hand of Government, red/green/blak tape, economic and political uncertainty, and globally ridiculous input costs that make value-add processing unviable.

Shirley the Strategy is going to address these very issues and invigorate the otherwise hopeless and incompetent mining industry?

The Strategy’s six focus areas are:

• Promoting Australia as a world leader in environmental and social governance (ESG) standards;

• Unlocking investment in enabling infrastructure and services;

• First Nations engagement and benefit sharing, to strengthen engagement and partnership with First Nations people and communities, and to improve equity and investment opportunities for First Nations interests;

• Attracting investment and building international partnerships, to optimise trade and investment settings for priority technologies;

• Developing strategically important projects, with targeted support; and

• Growing a skilled workforce.

So, no.
Just fetishise the least attractive aspects of Australia’s minerals sector and try to pick winners offering HiViz sod-turning opportunities.

These people walk amongst us.
Top Men.

miltonf
miltonf
June 20, 2023 9:03 pm

The persecution of SAS NCOs and ORs but not orroficers is just so so wrong.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 9:03 pm

Might not be everyone’s cup of tea but as a stamp collector this isn’t a bad offer

Once, when I was a kid with a stamp collection, we went for a drive up the Princess Highway from Bega to Sydney. We bought a kilo of cheddar at the Bodalla cheese factory, and shaved off slices to eat as we drove north.

Some miles onwards we spotted an old sawmill, off the road to the east. So we stopped to explore.

Interesting old machinery and stuff, but the most interesting was the tiny office. It was not more than 2m x 3m, perhaps even smaller. But the whole floor of it was ankle deep in envelopes.

Creepiest thing ever. The envelopes had stamps on them. Georges and Lyrebirds and all the early stamps. Quite amazing. We gathered up hundreds of the envelopes, and took them home, whereupon I steamed off the stamps. For years afterwards I swapped them for other stamps at school.

Sometimes you stumble upon something weird and interesting. We did that. I have no idea how a small abandoned office building could be ankle deep with old letters. But it was. The cheese was nice too.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 9:03 pm

Charlie don’t surf!

– Lt-Col Kilgore

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 9:04 pm

“Well done.
Putting the shiny bums through the wringer.”

Agree.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 9:05 pm

I wouldn’t know as I paid my own way to Australia in 1976 after being invited here by the Australian Government to help improve the stock.

I had the privilege of working with a number of the “Ten Pound Poms” in the early 1970’s. They were veterans of North Africa, Burma, Normandy, Arnhem and similar places, and, if you kept your mouth shut and your ears open, you learned a lot.

Johnny Rotten
June 20, 2023 9:05 pm

And thank you.
The national goat herd has shown some improvement since your arrival.

Wrong as usual Mrs Stencho Pantyhose. The improvement in the national goat herd has been all down to the muslims.

cohenite
June 20, 2023 9:09 pm

Sinc was great with the first Catallaxy files and I appreciate it very much but he’s not a good judge of charcacter.

Correct. He clearly preferred head prefect to me.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 9:10 pm

I have noticed the same particularly in the last six weeks, forecast for both daily maxima and minima are at least two degrees off the actual temperatures

Yah. I checked the forecast for Ncl this morning: 18 C.

Then in the arvo I checked my nearest AWS. We got to 15.9 C at 2 pm.

Their climate model is the problem, it has CO2 disease.

Lee
Lee
June 20, 2023 9:12 pm

Vote NO to this race based Voice, all it will do is empower grubs like Mayo.

Mayo is on video admitting that the Voice is all about handing power to communists such as himself, under the guise of “helping aborigines.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 9:13 pm

Seems that “Fantales” are being discontinued. Regular purchase at the drive in when I was a young bloke.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2023 9:15 pm

. The envelopes had stamps on them. Georges and Lyrebirds and all the early stamps. Quite amazing.

That Lyrebird goes for up to $15 used these dayz and a couple of the higher denomination George’s can run into the $1 000s ..
Several pre decimal stamps/sets are worth far more than any of our decimals .. the only decimals with value ($40/80) are the whole set or two high values of the 1966 Navigators everything since is very average …..
Word of advice on stamp collecting from someone who has spent lotza dosh on stamps over the years ….. DON’T .. unless you like pretty pix .. LOL

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 9:17 pm

“It’s coming up two years since Sinclair suddenly pulled the plug.”

I must also add, thank God for Dover and this site.

Lee
Lee
June 20, 2023 9:20 pm

I must also add, thank God for Dover and this site.

And C.L. for his site (if I am allowed to put up a free plug for it here.)

Dot
Dot
June 20, 2023 9:21 pm

First Tangible Sign that NATO “Exercise” May Go to LIVE WAR with Russia in 4 Days

Please stop with this ridiculous scaremongering nonsense.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2023 9:22 pm

What’s the cost to Australia of keeping a Ten Pound ingrate

I pondered over this but decided NO just let it go ….!
June 28 1967 .. 5.15am Mascot airport .. Oz IQ rose several points …….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 9:22 pm

A series of stories running in the popular meeja and the soshuls about two crickit related subjects:-
Firstly is the worst evah sledge in history delivered by Ollie Robinson to Usman Khawaja.
Secondly is the horrid Barmy Army taunts directed at our brave lads.
OK, the sledge. Was this about the moral standards of Mrs Khawaja or Usman’s mum, or even drawing into question the paternity of Usman’s children?
No.
It was a simple “Fck off you prick!”
Wow! How bad is that?
As for the Barmy Army taunts, they are no different to the usual stuff served up for 10-15 years – some witty, some banal and repetitive but nothing extraordinary.
So why the sudden indignation?
There is a telling sentence in every story.
“The Australian team had no comment to make.”
Huh?
Normally they would just dismiss it as banter which is part of the game.
The silence tells me that someone in the dressing room is sooking to the media.
My money is on Sniffy Smiff and the Houso Ranga and Mrs Ranga.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 9:25 pm

Mayo is on video admitting that the Voice is all about handing power to communists such as himself, under the guise of “helping aborigines.”

I don’t normally go in for “Reds under the bed”, but there;s a fair amount of evidence that the early days of the “land rights” movement, including the “Wave Hill Stockman’s strike” was fomented by the Communist Party.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 9:25 pm

“And C.L. for his site (if I am allowed to put up a free plug for it here.)”

Yes, absolutely.

Dot
Dot
June 20, 2023 9:26 pm

She’s a femme bot.

Trust me.

Madeleine King, Minister for Resources and Northern Australia, has released the new Critical Minerals Strategy to make Australia a globally significant producer of raw and processed critical minerals.

I’ve got a better idea for her: stay the hell away from mines and miners.

turnip
turnip
June 20, 2023 9:27 pm

Funny to be reminded of Margot Kingston upthread.

Wasn’t the running joke that she ran out of money due to the cost of bolding on her blog?

All them extra pixels cost more than ink!

Dot
Dot
June 20, 2023 9:27 pm

Sinc was great with the first Catallaxy files and I appreciate it very much but he’s not a good judge of charcacter.

SECOND Catallaxy Files.

Razey
Razey
June 20, 2023 9:28 pm

New BOM forecast for the next 365 days.

Temp: -5 – 55 degC
Rain: 0 – 1000 mm (0 – 100% chance)
Wind: 0 – 100 km/h

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 9:30 pm
WesternDecliner
June 20, 2023 9:31 pm

Ramey> wot … no snow?

Dot
Dot
June 20, 2023 9:33 pm

Chris – never had a mallee fowl or a bush turkey at the Cafe.

What do they taste like?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 20, 2023 9:33 pm

I must also add, thank God for Dover and this site.

A big yes Cassie!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 9:34 pm

The silence tells me that someone in the dressing room is sooking to the media.
My money is on Sniffy Smiff and the Houso Ranga and Mrs Ranga.

Mrs Ranga.

Back it in.

Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2023 9:35 pm

My new pet peeve is media people who don’t know how to pronounce penchant, if you are not sure don’t use it. It is a French word and does not rhyme with chant. All they have to do is Google it then click on the little speaker icon. It seems research is for losers.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 9:46 pm

Sinc was great with the first Catallaxy files and I appreciate it very much but he’s not a good judge of charcacter.

Well, let’s just say blind spots with regard to a couple of particularly odious types, who thankfully Dover has been successful in keeping at bay here.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 9:50 pm

Well, let’s just say blind spots with regard to a couple of particularly odious types,

That’s no way to speak of Numbers Bob!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 9:51 pm

Mrs Ranga.

Back it in.

Yes, but Captain Carbon must be buying into it, otherwise they would have tried to hose it down with, “No biggy. Heat of the moment with Ollie.” and, “Well, people pay good money to come to a Test Match, and if they want to engage in a bit of banter, that is their right”.
Fatal mistake.
They are up for a constant barrage now.
Just like when Mrs Ranga tried to get SBW masks banned in South Africa. They blew up two printing presses that night banging out 50,000 of them for the next day.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 9:52 pm

penchant

pronounced ‘pin-chint’.

Obviously.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 9:52 pm

That’s no way to speak of Numbers Bob!

Bzzzzt.
Try again.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 9:54 pm

Penchant?
Pronounced “Pom – c..nt”?
As in, Wodney Woddenhead is a penchant?
Am I close?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2023 9:54 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 9:57 pm

John Wick once killed three men in a bar.

With a penchant.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 9:59 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djt7dcXvVNw

The immortal Warren Zevon…

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 20, 2023 10:01 pm

Barmy Army giving it to Smiffy
When you bring the game into disrepute, and you are lucky to be playing at any level again, you deserve it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 10:01 pm

WHY OUR ELECTRIC GRID IS THREATENED

America (Australia) used to have stable, cheap electricity. This is really the definition of a first-world country; or it used to be, anyway. Now, for the first time in many years, we can’t safely rely on the electric grid, while at the same time the price of electricity is spiraling upward.

This video by Kite & Key Media provides a good, if simple, explanation of why our grid is now under threat and soon will be wholly unreliable.

The culprit, of course, is intermittent “green” energy:

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 10:15 pm

The Greens’ Program: The Suicide of Europe

. Beyond Growth is the annual ideological gathering of European environmentalists, and their countless relays in the world of government-funded, supposedly “non-governmental” organizations (NGOs).

. What do most people remember when they look at the Beyond Growth report? The European Parliament. The link between Beyond Growth’s radical proposals and the European Parliament is presented as perfectly natural: If the European Parliament wants radical environmentalism, how could you, a small local voter, oppose it?

The star of the most recent conference was the Anuna De Wever, a Flemish Belgian representing the young greens.

You have to read and listen to what these activists are saying. Most announce what, if they attain power, they will do.

Let us, then, listen to the “proposals” of the charming, smiling De Wever:

1. “We must redistribute the wealth”, De Wever begins. To whom, how? No details. This has been a standard feature of every self-respecting, moonstruck European speech for a century. Would it be out of line to suggest starting wealth redistribution with the salaries and assets of the Green Members of European Parliament (MEPs)?

2.”Cancel climate debt”: In the minds of environmental activists, countries in the “global North,” which have undergone significant development, have an ecological obligation to the countries in the “global South.”

Even though Western capitalism has rescued the greatest number of people from poverty in the history of the world, apparently the West also created the greatest emissions of greenhouse gases.

In addition, Europe and the US still allegedly “exploit” and “colonize” many regions in the “global South” through their multinational corporations, systematically depleting natural resources. Therefore, the “debt” to the “South” must be cancelled, even if this “debt” might have nothing to do with the climate.

3. Let us introduce a “universal basic income” immediately, tomorrow. One can imagine the eagerness of China, Russia, Japan, the U.S. and Cuba to introduce a common universal income — which is of course is probably only conceivable through the establishment of a “universal” world government: a mere formality.

4. The West must decline. Indeed, the West is evil. The proof is that it is “rich”. Therefore, the West must be punished, by throwing it into a collapse — a “degrowth” — while others not in the West will continue to grow, of course.

5. Universal public services must be increased (doubled? tripled?). How, in a context of decline, will this increase be financed? Those details are not specified.

“All this,” De Wever continues, to a great deal of applause, “will of course only be possible if we destroy… white supremacy.”

White supremacy? What does white supremacy have to do with economics, you might ask? It would seem that in the minds of many environmentalists, economic growth and white supremacy are effectively synonymous. After all, the reasoning seems to go, it was the West, embodied by Adam Smith in 1776, that “invented” economic growth, and the West at the time was largely white, so by destroying white supremacy we destroy the very idea of economic growth.

They seem to be into a kind of magical thinking which, seeing two realities in the same whole — “whiteness” and capitalism — they then postulate a causal link between them.

If, according to Adam Smith, economic growth for everyone is the key to being lifted out of poverty – with the goal of making the poor richer, not the rich poorer – then destroying growth does not appear as an economic model that will provide much help. Worse, there are now those pesky choices such as: Would you rather encourage growth by allowing people in poor countries to use fossil fuels — coal, oil and natural gas — or drive these people even further into poverty by denying them fossil fuels?

This strange goulash of Marxist remnants — imperialism, decolonization and badly digested Critical Race Theory — creates a program that is unlikely to unite the majority of Europeans.

The program even has been given a name: Immediate European Suicide.

If Europe engages in economic “degrowth,” as the Greens wish, this “degrowth” implies the destruction of entire sections of the European and Western economies. “Degrowth” and economic destruction are perfect synonyms.

“Degrowth” means curtailing economic activities — or taxing them so punitively that they cease to exist.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 20, 2023 10:24 pm

Warlpiri Elder from Yuendumu in the Northern Territory Ned Hargraves says his community does not understand the Voice.

“I’m here today representing my community, representing because people out in the community really don’t know what is ‘the Voice’,” Mr Hargraves said.

“If I hand you a piece of paper in my language, in Warlpiri, would you ever dare to sign it? No you wouldn’t, because you wouldn’t know what I am saying, what I am asking.”

He speaks not only for his community – the entire country is in the same boat.

Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2023 10:29 pm

The star of the most recent conference was the Anuna De Wever, a Flemish Belgian representing the young greens.

“All this,” De Wever continues, to a great deal of applause, “will of course only be possible if we destroy… white supremacy.”

I had a quick search for Ms De Wever and lo and behold, she is rather pale. Being so against white supremacy the decent thing for her to do is resign her position at the European Parliament and campaign for a non-white candidate. I wonder if anyone had thought to suggest it to her.

Young, self-regarding hypocrites will be the death of us.

Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2023 10:32 pm

“If I hand you a piece of paper in my language, in Warlpiri, would you ever dare to sign it? No you wouldn’t, because you wouldn’t know what I am saying, what I am asking.”

Would he be writing the message in his alphabet or the English one?

Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2023 10:43 pm

The program even has been given a name: Immediate European Suicide.
If Europe engages in economic “degrowth,” as the Greens wish, this “degrowth” implies the destruction of entire sections of the European and Western economies. “Degrowth” and economic destruction are perfect synonyms.
“Degrowth” means curtailing economic activities — or taxing them so punitively that they cease to exist.

These Young Greens don’t even know that they are Nazi heirs with what they are trying to inflict on others. I would not be concerned if they wanted to lead by example and live Stone Age lives in the hope of inspiring others. It’s the arrogance of making everyone live in their hell that is unforgivable.

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2023 10:49 pm
JC
JC
June 20, 2023 10:58 pm

Dover

You asked the other day about the feeling in NYC about Trump and politics, etc. Well, here’s an update.

Last night we went out with some old pals. I used to work with the guy, and our wives became friendly. I asked how she felt about the recent Trump shenanigans, knowing she’s an outlandish demonrat. She told me that Trump deserves whatever he gets because he was responsible for the J6 insurrection. I reminded her that both Crooked and Hiden essentially did the same thing with regards to documents etc, and she said she didn’t care because Trump is a bad person. I reminded her there’s currently an investigation by the House, which strongly suggests Hiden and his family were influence peddling, raking in millions of dollars in bribes. She said that she didn’t care because all politicians are crooks, and it’s unfair that Hiden, a good man, is being singled out by the terrible Republicans. This is what you’re dealing with in Demon land.

You can’t break through this level of cognitive dissonance.

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2023 11:02 pm

Brrrrrr. I let the dogs out to do their business and to load the wood wagon and the front yard is frozen. 🙁

MatrixTransform
June 20, 2023 11:06 pm

rewatching one of his favourite movies – Gran Torino!

not just another show full of hmongs

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 11:12 pm

I remember getting in more admin trouble with the Doomlord at times than I ever have with db. I guess we have all been here too long to take anything said online all that seriously any more.

If one of us was going to do something stupid in meatspace, a la that dickhead who doxxed the scientist bluing with Joe Rogan the other day, they would have done it by now.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2023 11:14 pm

Thancho the JR rail pass doesn’t cover the two fastest bullet trains but does the slightly slower ones. Some of the subways are not JR and you have to pay separately. I never had a problem simply walking from one station to another if no interconnection. When you’re in Kanazawa think about going to Ogimachi in the highlands. Day trip by bus.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Crossie says: June 20, 2023 at 9:35 pm
My new pet peeve is media people who don’t know how to pronounce penchant…

Hmmm…. Some common newsreader/reporter mispronunciations (correct first, then the common error)
Dance rhymes with Pants, not with Arts
Suit is pronounced like Boot, not like Beaut
Pool rhymes with Jewel, not with Full
School, likewise
Stupid starts with the same sound as Schnapps “Schewpid”
Bag rhymes with Haig, not with Rag
Bottle vowel “o” sound is similar to the “L/R” sound in Japanese.
Throttle likewise
Paddock rhymes with Static, not with Wallop
Bullock, likewise
Mattock, likewise
Route (stock route) rhymes with Spout
Route (other) rhymes with Scoot
Tractor rhymes with Backed Up, not with Back Door
Dog rhymes with Ford, not with Frog
Off rhymes with North, not with Cough
Mongrel rhymes with Scott Morrison

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2023 11:19 pm

JC I couldn’t be in the room as that Demonrat. Sounds a lot like my late mother. My sister told me recently that our mother admitted she was wrong about her support for the Liars.

JC
JC
June 20, 2023 11:22 pm

Dover

She’s a Barnard alum. It’s unreal. Not a single word I posted is exaggerated or made up. It’s what she said!

Ranga

Sure, but you can ignore nonsense at times and look, I’m not a US citizen, so it’s really on them.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 11:24 pm

Memories of Margok Ingston?

Clammy Ford divorced her sperm donor as she resented him having a social circle outside her and the bub.

JC
JC
June 20, 2023 11:30 pm

thefrollickingmole says:
June 20, 2023 at 11:24 pm

Memories of Margok Ingston?

Remember the anti-gravity machine she reckoned Boeing had developed for the US military?

JC
JC
June 20, 2023 11:31 pm

dover0beach says:
June 20, 2023 at 11:30 pm

She’s a Barnard alum.

Of course she is.

Oh yea!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Apropos discussion this morning of pencils on ballot papers is this snippet from the Electoral Commission:

But while the act instructs the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) to provide pencils, it doesn’t instruct voters to use them.
People can bring and use a pen if they wish to do so,” Electoral Commission spokesman Evan Ekin-Smith said.

Okay, not direct from the Electoral Commission, it is
reported by SBS

JC
JC
June 20, 2023 11:44 pm

Get a load of this.

Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden, has agreed to plead guilty to federal criminal tax charges, a court filing revealed.

Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden, has agreed to plead guilty to two federal crimes of willfully failing to pay federal income tax, a court filing Tuesday revealed.

Hunter Biden also has agreed to enter a so-called pretrial diversion agreement in connection with a charge of possession of a firearm by a person who is a user or addict of illegal drugs, according to the filing in U.S. District Court in Delaware. Typically, such agreements calls for the related criminal charge to be dismissed if a defendant complies with the conditions of the deal for a set period of time.

NBC News, citing two sources familiar with Hunter’s plea deal, said that U.S. Attorney for Delaware David Weiss agreed to recommend to a judge that Hunter receive a sentence of probation for the tax crimes.

Probation for tax fraud. Just unreal.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2023 11:44 pm

JC thats mutley level of stupidity then I remembered you have lunch together occasionally. Sorry mate. How long did it take you to get over it.

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