Open Thread – Weekend 24 June 2023


Burial at Ornans, Gustave Courbet, 1849-50

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Muddy
Muddy
June 25, 2023 9:06 pm

Prosciutto is a disgrace.

He’s THEIR disgrace.
Not ours.
Not mine.
I care not a whit.

If I lived in his state, he would (possibly) give me the time of day during the interval between picking up that stubby pencil and writing F.U.ALL on the paper (underlined six times). After which I would be a mirage to him; a figment of imagination.

Muddy
Muddy
June 25, 2023 9:07 pm

It looks like the time I took to check the spelling of F.U.ALL, has paid off with a top-o-the-page spot.
Noice.*

*Soon to be declared hate speech.

cohenite
June 25, 2023 9:09 pm

2 sensible comments in a row from crotchless. Well done crotchless. Have the rest of the night off to fold your panties.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 25, 2023 9:16 pm

Also re Dot’s link to da Voice polling.
The trend is horrendous for Elbow.
Mid 60’s running off to under 50:50 in three months.
There is no way he can arrest that slide without totally neutering the thing, formally and unequivocally.
Which will piss off those holding gravy train tickets yuuugely.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 25, 2023 9:17 pm

Excellent. Audio is good.

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Restore Old Videos:

Up On The Roof – The Drifters

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

It looks like the time I took to check the spelling of F.U.ALL, has paid off with a top-o-the-page spot.
Noice.*
*Soon to be declared hate speech.

Unless referring to: Peter Dutton, Pauline Hanson, Barnaby Joyce, Jacinta Price, Malcolm Roberts, Rupert Murdoch, Andrew Bolt, & so on.
Those are beyond the pale & naturally speaking ‘truth’ about them shall not be considered hate speech.

rickw
rickw
June 25, 2023 9:19 pm

Field Marshall mUntgomery will be taking some R & R. He left a nasty stain on the velour seat cushion last night. Does anyone know a good steam cleaner?

Not to be left on the over the page.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 25, 2023 9:22 pm

Interesting listening to 3AW “news” yesterday with a piece on Voice polling.
The reporter says “it is most concerning that the Yes vote has dropped below 50%”.
Err, wut?
“Concerning”?
For who?
I think an impartial reporter says “it would no doubt be most concerning for the Yes campaign that their support has dropped below 50%”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2023 9:23 pm
JC
JC
June 25, 2023 9:23 pm

Zurich airport has a smoking lounge named : Camel Lounge. And cigs are like 8 bucks a pack duty free.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 25, 2023 9:23 pm

Crossie:

They asked where are the small cities and towns along the highway and I had to explain that there are none.

Though maybe not as close to each other as would be the case in Europe, there still exist plenty of towns and cities adjacent to the Hume, although now mostly bypassed.

See as examples Mittagong; Moss Vale; Marulan; Goulburn; Gunning; Yass, Bookham; Jugiong, Gundagai; Tarcutta; Holbrook; Woomargama; Mullengandra; Albury, all north of the Murray.

While Wodonga, Chiltern, Wangaratta, Glenrowan, Winton, Benalla, Violet Town, Euroa, Avenel, Seymour, Broadford, and Wallan are all on the Mexican side.

One of the other half’s early work supervisor’s was of Dutch origin. At one point, and before the Hume was fully duplicated, some of his relos arrived from the old country.

With all the trees so close to the road their trip along the Hume was too stressful. They said that almost at every turn they envisaged running off the road and hitting one.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 25, 2023 9:25 pm

Question over on Bolt – If Linda Burney was aware of a community that didn’t have drinking water, it wouldn’t be beyond the bounds of her office to organize a tanker of drinking water as a temporary solution?

I still remember seeing Graeme Richardson, Minister for Health at the time circa 1993/4, on a 60 Minutes show, in a remote aboriginal community standing next to a 44-gallon drum where he said to the effect — See this? this is where they get their drinking water — I thought why? you are in government why haven’t you fixed this? Nothing has changed —

Whitlam and Nugget Coombes hmm I wonder if it were a cunning plan to commit genocide because that seems to be the result of their ‘good intentions’ except the hell their policies created continues to be suffered by those who are least able to extricate themselves.

JC
JC
June 25, 2023 9:26 pm

Correction

Camel Smoking Lounge

Muddy
Muddy
June 25, 2023 9:26 pm

How many of us would advise another to stick with someone (life partner/friend/employer) who doesn’t value them?
Why do we remain attached to a political party that does not value us?
Is our self-esteem so low, we tell ourselves that a brief wink once every three years is all we deserve?

miltonf
miltonf
June 25, 2023 9:27 pm

3AW is almost as bad as the ABC. Reminds me of Max Walsh in 1987- “we’re winning!”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 25, 2023 9:27 pm

Just looked at the OceanGate website:-

Join a Titanic Expedition

Explore the world’s most famous shipwreck

LEARN MORE

*Limited space available

Limited space indeed.
Like 5 cubic metres less than this time last week.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 25, 2023 9:32 pm

miltonfsays:

June 25, 2023 at 9:27 pm

3AW is almost as bad as the ABC. Reminds me of Max Walsh in 1987- “we’re winning!”

That doesn’t worry me.
I think the more shrill the media and political class become, the stiffer the resolve of No voters will become.
My two ALP Rustadon mates who have declared themselves to be No votes have said, “Sick of hearing about it on the ABC” and “Don’t like being fckn told what to think”.
Saturation Yes pleading?
Bring it on.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 25, 2023 9:32 pm
Bar Beach Swimmer
June 25, 2023 9:32 pm

There is no way he can arrest that slide without totally neutering the thing, formally and unequivocally.

I was pleased to see that Luigi did not take Dutton’s advice to pull it. I want to see it really go down in flames so that it really is the end of the thing for at least a couple of generations.

miltonf
miltonf
June 25, 2023 9:38 pm

take your point Sancho

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2023 9:44 pm

Albanese at record low approval ratings as No vote overtakes Yes for first time on voice: Newspoll

EXCLUSIVE
By Simon Benson
Political Editor
9:30PM June 25, 2023
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The referendum to enshrine an Indigenous voice to parliament and executive government would fail if a vote were held next weekend, with more voters for the first time opposed to altering the ­Constitution to achieve it and a majority of states lined up to ­deliver a “No” vote.

The new blow to the “Yes” campaign comes amid fresh warnings from Anthony Albanese, whose personal approval ratings have also fallen to their lowest level since the election, that a failed referendum would set back the cause of reconciliation.

An exclusive Newspoll conducted for The Australian shows the referendum on a path to possible defeat, with the “Yes” campaign falling short of achieving the ­double majority test of more than 50 per cent of the national vote and majorities in a majority of states.
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The special Newspoll of 2303 voters conducted between June 16 and June 24, coinciding with the referendum bill’s passage through parliament and an intensifying political debate over the remit of the voice, shows the “Yes” vote falling three points to a new low of just 43 per cent.

The “No” vote rose four points to 47 per cent, confirming for the first time that more people are ­opposed to the Albanese government’s referendum model than those who support it.

Just as critical was the shift in the second key test for a referendum to succeed – a majority in a majority of states – with four of the six states now indicating a “No” vote and just two delivering “Yes” vote majorities.

Queensland, Western Australia, South Australia and Tasmania are now poised to vote “No” with only Victoria and NSW likely to deliver majorities for the “Yes” case, according to an aggregated Newspoll of 3852 voters conducted between May 31 and June 24.

The rise in the “No” vote came from Labor voters as well as ­Coalition voters, with Greens supporters alone hardening their views in favour of the voice. But the sharpest fall in support came from 35 to 49-year-old voters, with a seven-point fall among those who support it – from 53 per cent to 44 per cent.

Equally, men have hardened their opposition, with the “Yes” vote sliding from 45 per cent a month ago to just 38 per cent in the latest survey.

The only demographic where the “Yes” vote is above 50 per cent is among those aged between 18 to 34 and university graduates. Women are more likely to vote “Yes” but those supportive still ­remain below 50 per cent.

The state-by-state breakdown shows Victoria remains the strongest state for the “Yes” case, with 48 per cent in favour and 41 per cent opposed, followed by NSW with a 46-41 per cent split in support of the voice but with 13 per cent still undecided – the highest of all states.

Queensland produced the strongest “No” vote with 54 per cent against and 40 per cent in favour. WA also had a majority in the “No” camp – 52 per cent against compared to 39 per cent in support. In Tasmania the “No” vote was 48 per cent compared to 43 per cent for the “Yes” camp and in SA it was almost evenly split, with 46 per cent against and 45 per cent in favour.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 25, 2023 9:47 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
June 25, 2023 9:49 pm

A ‘good samaritan’ pushed Farley’s wheelchair up a ramp, turned around to walk off, and Farley fell outta the wheelchair.
Okay.
At the time, he’s only been able to say yes and no for 6 months.
Burney was a bit touchy when asked about their relationship.
Burney’s son was a junkie and died ten years later.
Her daughter is some kind of SexPerv who was knocked back for an AVO against a woman covered in piercings.
Something just doesn’t add up.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 25, 2023 9:52 pm

He’s going to need a helluva lot more than that to establish ‘truth’.

Sal, a career ending decision, there. Can’t come soon enough for his state.

Arrogance and hubris: two dangerous human traits, of which politicians have them in abundance.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 25, 2023 9:59 pm

Which tends to indicate that Linda was pushing the wheelchair at the time.

Really? One might want to be pretty certain of that assertion, this kind of thing doesn’t make a throwaway line.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 25, 2023 10:04 pm

Really? One might want to be pretty certain of that assertion, this kind of thing doesn’t make a throwaway line.

Is this a threat?

Zatara
Zatara
June 25, 2023 10:04 pm
JC
JC
June 25, 2023 10:13 pm

Mud

You’re delving really deep there, buddy. Is it something you picked up at marriage counselling?

JC
JC
June 25, 2023 10:19 pm

No kidding, how many times a day to we need to read some commenter having a spaz and reminding us the third time that day that the Libs don’t represent them and they won’t get their vote.

At least Cassie does it in a colourful rant like way that’s interesting.

Some of the repeat offenders are male acting like battered wives. FFS, grow a pair.

rickw
rickw
June 25, 2023 10:33 pm

The Amish on the Move

Just wow.

Yeah, but what’s with them needing to move their sheds all the time?! ?

Dot
Dot
June 25, 2023 10:39 pm

Ummmm….

https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/06/23/rub-it-with-your-finger-who-teaches-kids-masturbation/

The World Health Organisation teaching kids to masturbate.

It’s a good thing these guys stopped those pandemics.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2023 10:45 pm

A ‘good samaritan’ pushed Farley’s wheelchair up a ramp, turned around to walk off, and Farley fell outta the wheelchair.

Didn’t you know? Rick Farley was murdered by militant members of the Labor Party, after the stand he, and the National Farmers Federation, took over the Mabo judgement, and the Mudginberri meat works dispute.

slackster
slackster
June 25, 2023 10:58 pm

You can’t move troops in secret in 2023. You need to move them under some guise.
The fallout from this Russia business is that Wagner is now less than 100km from Kiev.
Belarus received Nuclear weapons from Russia this month
Is it just me or is anyone else uneasy of what’s going on right now?

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 25, 2023 11:08 pm

slackster> its games without frontiers

Indolent
Indolent
June 25, 2023 11:11 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 25, 2023 11:18 pm
slackster
slackster
June 25, 2023 11:20 pm

Alamak!
This song is more of the mood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U61iSnhi7MY

Indolent
Indolent
June 25, 2023 11:23 pm

Undoubtedly orchestrated. It’s quite clear that most of our problems have been deliberately created, from energy shortages to Covid tyranny to gender bending.

A Look at Society Shows an Orchestrated Decline

Indolent
Indolent
June 25, 2023 11:28 pm

Tom Elliott
@tomselliott

The more we learn about the 2020 election, the more undeniable it becomes that Biden owes his “victory” to blatant political corruption. To wit:

Eighteen points that don’t even include the out right cheating and vote manipulation that went on. Despite all of this, Trump actually won.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 25, 2023 11:45 pm

Mr Panzer at 1.07:

I see m0nster has gone straight to the St Ruth playbook this morning.
Firstly, “Well, what was I supposed to think”, followed by, “I will be proven right eventually, cock-smokers.”

Coming up:

mUntler provides daily ‘get a clot and die’-inspired wordwalls from the Last Holdout, which turns out to be the almond milk-infested leafy east.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 25, 2023 11:48 pm

Louis at 4.34:

Knuckles
Effin arsie with the help of those 6 Cambridge philistinist against the crows.
You guys are ,not up to it

Presumably this is about the Pies’ unchallenged expertise.

Spoken like a true barrel-stuffer.

P.S. Tex Walker is an overpaid fairy.

P.P.S. One of the Crows – number 2 – had the dignity to literally shit himself on the field. Clearly had one too many pie floaters.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 25, 2023 11:53 pm

C.L. at 9.28:

Tattoos have not aged well as a phenom.
Poor souls who got them.

In my defence, I got mine before they were cool. Now every noodle-armer’s got ‘sleeves’, which I am told are handed out with the assistance of numbing cream.

My last was over ten years ago. If I’d asked for numbing cream I would have been presented with a mallet.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 26, 2023 12:06 am

Crows supporters hyphen-ventilating I see.

John H.
John H.
June 26, 2023 12:38 am

JCsays:
June 25, 2023 at 10:19 pm
No kidding, how many times a day to we need to read some commenter having a spaz and reminding us the third time that day that the Libs don’t represent them and they won’t get their vote.

At least Cassie does it in a colourful rant like way that’s interesting.

Some of the repeat offenders are male acting like battered wives. FFS, grow a pair.

Recent the Tories lost in a thousand local elections, the GOP is banning books, the Libs in Australia are lost and don’t know what to do. I rarely read Cassie’s comments so I don’t know what she is on about. Mr. Palmer’s attempts to politically revive conservatism were laughable. Conservatives are too often in a negative frame of mind and not enough positive ideas. Stop complaining, stop being victims, and provide a working definition of conservatism beyond the facile lower taxes, less regulation, less welfare. How low, how few, and what cuts? If you can’t answer those questions you will keep losing the PR campaign.

Zatara
Zatara
June 26, 2023 2:07 am

The summary provided at Indolent’s link of 1128 is excellent.

Point number 18 is particularly galling. Especially when some resort to crowing about Trump being impeached.

18) At the time Trump was being impeached for asking Ukraine to investigate Biden’s alleged corruption in Ukraine, the FBI & IRS already knew the Bidens had indeed laundered more than $10 million from Burisma, via fake companies and dozens of bank accounts, while at the same time VP Biden had used U.S. aid as leverage in getting the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma fired.

So as was obvious at the time to anyone not fully invested in the Dem chicanery, Trump was impeached for doing his job by the kangaroo court of the Pelosi controlled congress.

JC
JC
June 26, 2023 2:14 am

But seriously, the only contenders are the US or Ukraine

Bullshit. There’s the UK, there are Scandinavian countries and there’s also Russia itself. Lastly, could actually have been accidental.

Zatara
Zatara
June 26, 2023 2:32 am

But seriously, the only contenders are the US or Ukraine

Throw in the German (or any western European) eco-nazis.

Tom
Tom
June 26, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
June 26, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
June 26, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 26, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 26, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 26, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
June 26, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
June 26, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
June 26, 2023 4:12 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 4:25 am

From the Oz.
Newspoll.

The special Newspoll of 2303 voters conducted between June 16 and June 24, coinciding with the referendum bill’s passage through parliament and an intensifying political debate over the remit of the voice, shows the “Yes” vote falling three points to a new low of just 43 per cent.

The “No” vote rose four points to 47 per cent …

So the national majority is a “No”.
How are we going state-by-state?

Queensland, Western Australia, South Australia and Tasmania are now poised to vote “No” with only Victoria and NSW likely to deliver majorities for the “Yes” case, according to an aggregated Newspoll of 3852 voters conducted between May 31 and June 24.

The state-by-state breakdown shows Victoria remains the strongest state for the “Yes” case, with 48 per cent in favour and 41 per cent opposed, followed by NSW with a 46-41 per cent split in support of the voice but with 13 per cent still undecided – the highest of all states.

Queensland produced the strongest “No” vote with 54 per cent against and 40 per cent in favour. WA also had a majority in the “No” camp – 52 per cent against compared to 39 per cent in support. In Tasmania the “No” vote was 48 per cent compared to 43 per cent for the “Yes” camp and in SA it was almost evenly split, with 46 per cent against and 45 per cent in favour.

SS Voice has hit the iceberg and is taking water.
Cap’n Elbow will now start shouting at the iceberg through a bullhorn.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 26, 2023 4:34 am

Thanks Tom.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 26, 2023 4:57 am

It doesn’t take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men who goes into battle.

– Norman Schwarzkopf

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 5:01 am

Thanks Wodney.
Vewy pwofound.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 26, 2023 5:04 am

From Michael Smith News –

Tony Abbott AC on the death of Simon Crean
Sunday, 25 June 2023

Fzdl-2kaQAIrhZI

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 26, 2023 5:07 am

Whoops !!!!!! –

From Michael Smith News –

Tony Abbott on the death of Simon Crean –

https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02c1a6cbb419200b-pi

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 26, 2023 5:13 am

Thanks Wodney.
Vewy pwofound.

Medical advice for Mrs Stencho Pantyhose –

You should see a doctor about that lisp of yours. Otherwise people may well think that you are a ‘Sirry Iriot’…………………………………..

calli
calli
June 26, 2023 5:27 am

In the late afternoon, the setting sun beats golden upon the Western face of Bath Abbey.

In the square below, ringed by restaurants and bars, a busker sings a Paul Simon song, and a lyric rings out – “angels in the architecture”. Look up, and there they are – on either side of the vast mullioned window are stone angels climbing and descending Jacob’s ladder from the bottom to the heights.

Within, evening service is on, so we go in. The soaring roof, upheld by beautiful fan vaulting, sends the music swirling around us. The service ended, I turn and see a glory of stained glass, telling the ageless story of God’s dealings with mankind.

From Genesis 28 – When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, “Surely the Lord is in this place, and I was not aware of it.” He was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God; this is the gate of heaven.”

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 26, 2023 5:41 am

“When the seagulls follow the trawler, it’s because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea.”

– Eric Cantona

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 6:19 am

When seagulls go to battle it’s because trawlers are the real heroes.
-from great quotes of the 20th Century

Muddy
Muddy
June 26, 2023 6:24 am

Some see the crumbling around them and try to fix it, albeit with children’s glue.
Others mock them from a distance, keeping their fingernails clean and gazing longingly in the mirror.
Which one of these is the psychological leper?

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 6:39 am

Though not surprised I was pleased to see my youngest son, in between watching car YouTubers watching an American YouTuber reviewing the US Senate “Protecting Pride” hearing with clips of questions by Ted Cruz and Neely Kennedy, neither taking prisoners.
and being very non supportive of Kelley Robinson

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 26, 2023 6:44 am

2. Xi is going to be ousted!

At the time Greg Sheridan wrote a piece that included this silliness.
But now, try as might, I can not find the column.
I can’t believe the Oz would memory hole a column.
Maybe it happens a lot but this is the first time I’ve noticed it.

Cassie of Sydney
June 26, 2023 6:47 am

” I rarely read Cassie’s comments so I don’t know what she is on about. “

I occasionally your comments and never know what you’re on about.

Cassie of Sydney
June 26, 2023 6:49 am

Bath is my favourite English city.

Enjoy callie, and thanks for your kind thoughts about the “oldies”.

Cassie of Sydney
June 26, 2023 6:50 am

“At least Cassie does it in a colourful rant like way that’s interesting.”

Thanks JC, I do like a rant!

Cassie of Sydney
June 26, 2023 6:55 am

” the GOP is banning books

Bullshit.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 26, 2023 6:55 am

In case this hasn’t been flagged already.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/06/yes-us-elections-can-be-hacked/

Yes, US elections can be hacked
A long-suppressed expert report settles the argument
Kerry Wakefield

Getty Images
Kerry Wakefield
24 June 2023 9:00 AM
After years of lawfare, a smoking gun report on US election machinery has come to light – and it shreds the supposed security of electronic voting machines in the 2020 election. The report says the system’s flaws would allow vote switching and the alteration of election results ‘without detection’.

The report’s author says wryly it’s not even hard to do: ‘No grand conspiracies would be necessary to commit large-scale fraud, but rather only moderate technical skills….’ And while the report focuses on Georgia, it notes that the same unsafe equipment was used in 15 other states in the 2020 election, including swing states such as Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania.

….

PeterM
PeterM
June 26, 2023 7:00 am

We enjoyed an evening service when we were in Bath including gazing up at the beautiful stonework on the ceiling. I may have been a bit distracted from the service.

At the other end of town The Circus is worth a walk around

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2023 7:03 am

The special Newspoll of 2303 voters conducted between June 16 and June 24, coinciding with the referendum bill’s passage through parliament and an intensifying political debate over the remit of the voice, shows the “Yes” vote falling three points to a new low of just 43 per cent.

Brilliant news. We shouldn’t have the beginnings of apartheid.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 26, 2023 7:11 am

Once again – thanks, Dan (NewsCorp):

One of Victoria’s most vicious rapists, sentenced to a rare indefinite jail term in 2007, will return to court within weeks to seek his release.

William Craig Forde, who has been convicted of raping four women, will appear in the County Court in August to review his sentence. A recent meeting of lawyers from the Office of Public Prosecutions and Legal Aid is believed to have agreed on funding for an appeal.

It comes just days after the Andrews government did not back an opposition Bill to keep serial killer Paul Denyer from applying for parole after his bid for freedom was rejected.

Forde had just done 16 years for three earlier rapes, when the first thing he did once out of the bin was find, bind, gag and repeatedly rape another woman at knifepoint. He refuses to complete any sort of ‘program’, and has zero remorse.

It is unsurprising that Andrews’ own personal spats have given this animal a chance he would otherwise never have had to do all this again to someone else. Andrews, who will be gonski in 18 months or less, and the women he cares about will be far away from the Fordes of this world.

The rest of the ladeeeeees – well, they won’t be so fortunate. Will they, Dan?

Cassie of Sydney
June 26, 2023 7:11 am

The Tories lost bigly in recent council elections, just like they’re going to lose bigly next year. UK Tories is a party that, despite being in power since 2010, despite winning a massive majority in 2019, is on the nose even with the most rusted on voters in middle England. Why? Because the Tories have done nothing to curb legal immigration, with an estimated one million legal migrants projected to arrive over the next twelve months on an island already desperately overcrowded, and with massive housing shortages, the Tories have nothing to curb illegal immigration, with such porous borders that people in living in English coastal villages and towns regularly see young African and Middle Eastern males pull up boats on the pebbly shores of Kent and Sussex, Brexit is a empty cardboard of nothingness because UK laws are still subject to EU laws and regulations, taxes, particularly company taxes, are at an all time high, the Tories have done nothing to fight the culture wars such as the gender nonsense, and Bonking Boris, beset with Carrie virus, signed the UK up to net zero emissions and the climate con.

People are angry. They’ve been lied to and taken for granted. That’s why they lost in recent council elections.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2023 7:20 am

Yes, US elections can be hacked

It looks increasingly likely that Brazil’s election was stolen also. With very large input from the Biden Administration.

Exposed: Biden Was Behind Socialist Coup in Brazil (22 Jun)

“The Financial Times has spoken to six former or current US officials involved in the effort, as well as to several key Brazilian institutional figures, to piece together the story of how the Biden administration engaged in what one former top state department official calls a “very unusual” messaging campaign in the months leading up to the vote, using both public and private channels.

The solution was a concerted but unannounced campaign across multiple branches of the US government, including the military, the CIA, the state department, the Pentagon and the White House. “This was a very unusual engagement,” says Michael McKinley, a former top state department official and ex-ambassador to Brazil.

The US also provided some practical help to the election process, helping to overcome supply chain difficulties to obtain components, especially semiconductors, needed to manufacture new machines. The former US ambassador to Brazil, Anthony Harrington, was able to leverage connections inside chipmaker Texas Instruments to, he says, “distinguish semiconductor needs and give priority to the impact on democratic elections”.

The US state department and some senior Brazilian officials also asked Taiwanese authorities to give priority to Brazil’s need for semiconductors(opens a new window) made by Nuvoton, a Taiwanese company, which are used in the voting machines, according to two sources.”

Not only a lot of “unusual messaging” but also they bent over backwards to get voting machines in place for the election. Very CIAish. Bolsanaro of course was seen as the Brazilian Trump, and was similar in his policies such as hostility towards the climate scam.

Cassie of Sydney
June 26, 2023 7:23 am

“WA also had a majority in the “No” camp”

Given the recent legislation passed in WA, that “No” camp will increase in WA.

Still, as comforting as the polls are, nobody should sit back and smack their lips. The NO campaign needs to continue to apply pressure, to say NO, to stress the fact that the Voice is inherently racist and so on, because the next few months will see the Yes campaign, with corporate, media, sporting and academic largesse behind them, ramp up the Yes advertising.

However, apart from the fact that people are naturally wary of constitutional change, I have a feeling that many Australians are quite angry about how their kindness and decency has been taken for granted and abused, particularly with the SSM vote back in 2017, because they now see how that kindness and decency is manipulated, and I think many just won’t fall for that again.

Leon L.
Leon L.
June 26, 2023 7:31 am

Indolent posted this link last night at 11:18 under a heading “Thrown to the Wolves.”
(Keep up the good work Indolent.)
It is from City Journal on transgender ideology in medicine as related by a paediatrician in a US children’s hospital.

I have been engaged in an ongoing dialogue with a physician who works in a major children’s hospital in a blue city. This physician has witnessed firsthand how transgender ideology has captured the medical profession and jeopardized the first commandment of the healing sciences: do no harm.

He has now chosen to speak out, on condition of anonymity, because he is alarmed by the sudden corruption of the medical community. His colleagues, many of whom oppose transgender interventions, have so far chosen to stay silent. This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

Transgender Ideology and the Corruption of Medicine.
It is titled Thrown to the Wolves.
Compulsory reading for any who cares about this most evil and abhorrent assault on humanity.

Leon L.
Leon L.
June 26, 2023 7:31 am

Any = anyone

Vicki
Vicki
June 26, 2023 7:45 am

Simon Crean passed away “suddenly” in Berlin this morning. Apparently after exercising.

On the weekend I had dinner with friends – one of whom was host at his home to cardiologist Dr. Aseem Malhotra during his stay in Sydney. We later sat around & viewed a recording of the Perth conference at which Malhotra spoke, along with Ed Dowd, the Wall St guru who has taken up the campaign against the mRNA vaccines based on the devastating statistics of harm that he has analysed. We also saw a video link up with author Naomi Wolf, who has also extensively investigated the vaccines.

If you can view this telecast, please do. I have watched a lot of material on this topic – but the latest analysis by these amazing individuals is staggering. I will see if I can obtain it from my friend if it does not have copyright & I will post it if I can.

Meantime – no doubt many of us are suspecting that Simon Crean’s passing may have been connected to a recent booster. The evidence is substantial that the boosters are particularly causing damage, since the effect may be cumulative. I have got assurances from my family that they will refuse any further pressure from schools and/0r workplace for boosters.

BTW Malhotra is brave and determined. He was very honest about his reversal on the question of vaccine safety after his father’s death from a heart attack. It is interesting, because he has always been a distinguished maverick – having previously earned the ire of the medical establishment by questioning Statins.

I have to say that these guys – including my friend Dr. Phillip Altman who hosted Aseem, & is a founding member of AMPS – are inspirational. They get out into the community and tell it like it is. And let me tell you – they get plenty of abuse and personal threats. I do very little compared to some of my friends.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 26, 2023 7:45 am

Unintentional comedy value from the ABC (the Courier-Mail):

Play School has stirred debate online for the “bad timing” of its Saturday morning episode which followed the sea floor adventures of two ocean explorers.

In a segment of the “Sea And Space: 2” episode that aired on ABC Kids on June 24, hosts Kaeng and Rachel take Jemima and Kiya into the ocean’s “cold and dark” midnight zone.

Very topical, I would have thought.

In the Play School segment, a chirpy Rachel tells viewers they’re “going to the bottom of the sea” before the camera cuts to a close up of the dolls zooming deep into the “ocean” in a submarine-like prop.

“They’ve made it all the way to the bottom of the sea floor,” Rachel says, before adding “it’s very dark” and she wonders if they’ll see any bioluminescent sea creatures.

No mention of whether the dolls hired 50 year old uninspirational white guys.

After taking the sub to explore some glow-in-the-dark jellyfish, Rachel breaks into a singalong with the lyrics:

“Two explorers went to sea sea sea to see what they could see see see see. But all that they could see see see was …”

‘But all that they could see see see, were their skulls being crushed instantaneous-leeeee…’

Excellent. Mind you, that’s what you get when you ignore the square and rectangle windows, and try and see what’s behind the round window.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 7:50 am

The cat which catches the seagull which has dined on sardines is a truly happy cat.
– Sun Tzu

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2023 7:50 am

Now let’s see what’s outside Paul Allen’s window.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 26, 2023 8:01 am

Skip the grauniad’s review of Julius Caesar and go straight to a paying punter’s.

You thought words were important in Shakespeare? Think again.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 26, 2023 8:03 am

The new blow to the “Yes” campaign comes amid fresh warnings from Anthony Albanese, whose personal approval ratings have also fallen to their lowest level since the election, that a failed referendum would set back the cause of reconciliation.

What a hapless bunch of mongs.

Governments (of both stripes) created the need for reconciliation. Activists saw an opportunity for manipulating government with the single (frankly magnificent) insight: That they should make, in any choice, the option of not doing what was wanted a personal risk, while the option of doing what was wanted could be achieved at no personal expense.

So in the service of the first we have the threat of being slandered as a racist in a society that deplores racism and where politicians rely upon votes, and in service of the second they need merely legislate other people’s money, extortionate rules on businesses etc.

And now, after decades of acceding to repeated lucrative but ineffectual solutions politicians are continuing in the same way they they do in economics: The last stimulus didn’t work? Well, we better double it then. In the case of ‘Reconciliation’ they have finally broken beyond the bounds of what mere law might get them and are demanding special privilege in the Constitution.

The idea that this would be the end depends on the idea that the people running the agenda would ever be satisfied. That is pretty naïve.

The other observation I would make is that while we keep hearing from the likes of Albo and Burney that Da Voice would only be an advisory body with no formal powers, we have seen how far they have got without formal powers. All they need do, as they do now, is label politicians and policies racist and it has an actual force that is not based on their current formally recognised authority, but instead operates on political timidity.

How much worse will it be when they have prestige in line with the constitution. Instead of deranged rants in stage costumes of beads paints and possum skins from radio studios, we will have deranged rants in stage costumes of beads paints and possum skins from expensive offices from people who are recognised in their role the same way Federal Court justices are.

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2023 8:07 am

You thought words were important in Shakespeare? Think again.

I thought he was credited with single-handedly increasing the vocabulary of early modern English, but okay!

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2023 8:16 am

This is what the elitist, sons of Earls communists believe that Bill Shakespeare actually was:

Monty Python’s Flying Circus – “Working Class Playwright”

*Tungsten carbide drills?!”

*Coal mining is a wonderful thing father, but it’s something you’ll never understand!*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQDeU6dHX-c

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2023 8:17 am

Star Wars goes qwerty.

Disney’s Downhill Slide | Power Line (25 Jun)

Disney’s Star Wars has cast its first transgender actor in a major role, hiring British male-to-female YouTube personality Abigail Thorn for the role in the upcoming Disney+ series The Acolyte, according to multiple reports. … The Acolyte reportedly takes place during the High Republic period, which is set before the events of the Star Wars movies. The series has already cast “non-binary” actress Amanda Steinberg in its lead role.

All the Disney movies released recently have bombed horribly because woke. Still let’s do the same thing again shall we? Sure to work this time. On the other hand we now know why Stormtroopers can’t shoot straight: straight they ain’t.

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 8:19 am

No-one has a heart attack that isn’t caused by the vaccine.
Before the vaccine no-one ever suddenly dropped dead of a heart attack.
It just didn’t ever happen.
Not even once.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 26, 2023 8:21 am

Andrew Bolt:

I thought the Albanese government’s excuses for the Voice – for dividing Australians by race – couldn’t get dumber. But then Linda Burney started babbling about sweet cordial.

The Indigenous Australians Minister has struggled for months to explain how a Voice of 22 unelected black activists, written into our Constitution to act as an advisory parliament, will make any practical difference.

So last Wednesday, Burney tried again to explain what the Voice could do that our giant Aboriginal bureaucracy, 30 land councils and 3000 Aboriginal corporations cannot do already.

She told Parliament: “I have been to communities where babies are drinking sweet cordial instead of water because it’s cheaper … Do not tell me that the proposition that the Prime Minister has outlined is not needed in this country.”

Seriously, Linda? Even if this cordial claim were true, how does it prove we need the Voice?

Burney is the minister. She’s heard this cordial story. She even launched a report last year into water quality in some Aboriginal communities.

Does she really need to wait for a Voice to tell her to fix it?

Mind you, I also wonder about mothers who chose to feed their babies cordial, even if it is cheaper than water. Will the Voice make them more responsible parents?

But I wonder if Burney’s story is even true.

I’m assuming she means babies are drinking unmixed cordial, straight from the bottle. If it’s mixed with water, the mums could simply stop adding the cordial and save that money.

But I checked. The biggest problem with Burney’s story is that cordial isn’t cheaper than water, or shouldn’t be.

Even on special at the discount Aldi chain, I found cordial selling for no less than $2.09 a litre.

But Woolies sells 10 litres of bottled water for just 64c a litre, less than a third of the price. Bulk water would be even cheaper.

Sure, there won’t be a Woolworths in the community Burney visited, but it can’t be hard to organise for bottled water to be sent in instead of cordial for babies, if you don’t trust the water in the taps or rain tanks.

The parents could do it themselves. The local land council could help. No Voice needed. No need to change our Constitution.

So I’m calling bull on Burney. Is this cordial story really why Australians should be divided by race in our Constitution for the rest of our lives?

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 8:24 am

I’m more concerned about the sour cordial.

Vicki
Vicki
June 26, 2023 8:26 am

The other observation I would make is that while we keep hearing from the likes of Albo and Burney that Da Voice would only be an advisory body with no formal powers, we have seen how far they have got without formal powers. All they need do, as they do now, is label politicians and policies racist and it has an actual force that is not based on their current formally recognised authority, but instead operates on political timidity.

Great post, Mother Lode. The Labor government has made a bad call in believing that their electoral success would translate into obedient agreement on significant matters by the electorate. I am relieved to see that apparently the Australian electorate maybe has retained some of its historic “BS” detection ability, after all. I have been worried about the issue since the latter can’t be maintained when the Anglo ancestry component is said to have slipped to 40% of the population. But maybe our new multi-cultural component has a better “BS” detector than Anglo Ozzies!

areff
areff
June 26, 2023 8:30 am

The truth about shakespeare? He was Marlowe.

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2023 8:33 am

Leaked Star Wars script for Star Wars XXXI the battle for the Pritzker Empire.

I remember the Old Republic, Luke.

Your father’s first true enemy was a flaming old Queen who loved to read old Jedi fables to the younglings and always attempted through force magic and surgery to find their “true” form. Master Yoda hated this, but as a Count, he had political power and had Yoda censured by the Council. This old enemy, “Flaming” Count Dooku was truly a Sith Lord but also a venerated thespian speaker from a more refined age. He had the most subtle of passes he would use on lonely young Jedi knights, usually barely legal in most systems.

You should have seen Count Dooku, err, I mean Danielle Serrenian sashay around with those rainbow-coloured Jedi robes. The review of the early stormtroopers was like a rich Coruscant lord visiting an all ages bath house at Mos Eisley, it was ridiculous, like an underground stag film banned in over 3,000 star systems. It was surreal. He’d constantly lose “grappling matches” in secret “training sessions” almost every other day. The way he gripped lightsabers and Bothan scalps was oddly similar. It was a constant parade of an ever-expanding knowledge of the various age of consent laws, you have no idea.

…and he was a good friend.

Vicki
Vicki
June 26, 2023 8:34 am

No-one has a heart attack that isn’t caused by the vaccine.
Before the vaccine no-one ever suddenly dropped dead of a heart attack.
It just didn’t ever happen.
Not even once.

Rosie, of course you are right. We all know that. And we also know that apparently fit and healthy 70 plus individuals still succumb to coronary illness.

Nonetheless, given the statistics of unexpected deaths by heart attacks, strokes and other clotting related fatalities since 2021, it is fair comment to wonder if the sudden death of Simon Crean is another of the effects of the mRNA vaccines on the vascular system. Most vaccinees, for whatever reason, have thankfully escaped the adverse effects of the spike protein, just as they did when they contracted Covid19 itself. For the exact reasons we have not yet isolated, it appears fairly certain, that some do not.

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 8:37 am

On the weekend I saw a woman wearing a top covered in the words ‘tread lightly, Aboriginal land’.
Without it I would never have guessed she was Aboriginal, maybe she wasn’t.
I was curious about the ‘message’ so googled it.
It’s the work of the designer that dressed Jana Stewart for the midwinter ball.
Needless to say her range of locally made clothing is very expensive.
$50 for a beanie
$120 for a hoodie.
Signing up for their website you were asked for your heritage information.
Seems racist to me.

shatterzzz
June 26, 2023 8:40 am

Meantime – no doubt many of us are suspecting that Simon Crean’s passing may have been connected to a recent booster.

Couldn’t care! .. mediocre Union man who climbed the pardy ranks on Daddy’s reputation .. crossed swords with him whilst he was running the Storeman & Packers protection racket .. jus a commie “yes” man following party orders …
Main annoyance is we’ll (taxpayers) will be left footing the bill for his dig ..
Why, oh why! can’t “rich” pollies ever afford their own funerals?.. it’s a mystery, a mystery .. I tellz ya!~

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2023 8:43 am

I can’t drink cordial…

bons
bons
June 26, 2023 8:47 am

Yep, our artistic betters have taken live productions and made them unbearable.
I research thoroughly before attending any these days. It is so difficult to scramble along the rows when you walk out.
I took the grand kids to the ‘Nutcracker’ a couple of Christmases ago. I was excited, it was their first big stage event.
What the dishonest creeps did not say in their blurb was that it was a ‘reinterpretation’ based upon ‘new relevance’, ‘contemporary truths’ crap crap crap. It was the Nutcracker FFS!
It was appalling, the kids were bored, I was homicidal and the audience explosive.
I copped some serious stick during the subsequent ice cream bribe.
I did avoid joining our pals at ‘Hamilton’ however. No gloating, no snide giggles, no “tell me again about Hamilton”. Cause not.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 26, 2023 8:48 am

The Voice will fix this no doubt.

https://bigrigs.com.au/2023/06/16/veteran-truckie-fights-off-carload-of-assailants-in-northern-nsw-town/

Talked about this with a local truckie at the pub last night. The word is out in the industry and they’re as mad as hell with the cops for failing to keep these lawless predators away from rest stops.
This won’t end well.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2023 8:48 am

Daily Mail.

EXCLUSIVE: The disturbing family secret driving Jacinta Nampijinpa Price’s concerns about the Voice – as she tells Daily Mail Australia what well-meaning Yes supporters don’t get about ‘traditional culture’

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price exposes Voice issues
Senator warns: ‘we’re talking about a patriarchal society here’

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 8:49 am

No it’s ridiculous to question every ‘celebrity death’ trying to pin it to the vaccine.
Clearly in 2021 there were vaccine related deaths and serious health issues for people that were directly attributed to recent vaccinations.
If you are going to have an adverse reaction I’m extremely sceptical that it’s going to sneak up without warning many many months later and look like a conventional heart attack.
I know someone in their sixties who went hiking in Europe, dropped dead in a most inconvenience location from a heart attack, this was perhaps twenty years ago.
Family was devastated as he was fit, trim and did lots of exercise.
I knew two other men, one in his forties, one in his fifties who died of sudden unexpected heart attacks in the middle of vigorous exercise, again both fit, trim and healthy doing lots of said vigorous exercise. .
At least Tim Blair didn’t blame his heart attack on the vaccine.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 26, 2023 8:49 am

All the Disney movies released recently have bombed horribly because woke.

I believe that much of this is due to the woman who currently heads Lucasfilm, Kathleen Kennedy. She has also killed the Indiana Jones franchise. As an aside, I believe they had to re-shoot the end of the Duh of Destiny – that they were originally going to have Indiana Jones die to protect the timeline but have changed it so he returns to the ‘present’. She now says that the hero of the franchise would be Indiana Jones goddaughter, who has been widely panned as an egotistical dismissive Mary Sue.

She has also worked feverishly to ‘feminise’ Star Wars, being behind the decision to get rid of Luke Skywalker to make way for some new character she invented called Rey. Luke is now described as a cautionary tale for Rey, and Rey is another Mary Sue because Kathleen Kennedy seems to think that the hero arc is not to suffer defeat, to gather themselves together, to push themselves, to train and learn, and then go back into the fray. No, she thinks it is about women beating men, and the effort that goes into becoming strong enough is a waste of time. Just start out with the woman perfect in everything.

It is weird but that movie Joe Somebody (I watched it because I liked Galaxy Quest) has a more developed hero arc than the entire of the new Star Wars: Joe was humiliated when the company bully hit him in front of his daughter – he wallows for a period – he then decides to learn self-defence – he challenges the bully to a rematch – he turns up on the day full of confidence and…realises he does not feel the need to fight any more. It is a decision that he would not have made before the training.

Rey would just have cut the guy in half in the first scene using some weapon she had never even seen before but using it perfectly.

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 8:53 am

That’s a pretty appalling story Gez, especially the police indifference.
When I first had occasion to drive Melbourne to Queensland a family member advised me never to overnight in Moree or Goondiwindi, so I didn’t.
As the article said, truck drivers don’t have that option.

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 8:54 am

Oh and I think premature vaccine speculation is pretty disrespectful to the families of the deceased.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 8:56 am

I thought the Albanese government’s excuses for the Voice – for dividing Australians by race – couldn’t get dumber. But then Linda Burney started babbling about sweet cordial.

I was part of the cordial generation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 8:57 am

rosiesays:

June 26, 2023 at 8:24 am

I’m more concerned about the sour cordial.

The Jonestown Kool-Ade?

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2023 8:58 am

She has also worked feverishly to ‘feminise’ Star Wars, being behind the decision to get rid of Luke Skywalker to make way for some new character she invented called Rey. Luke is now described as a cautionary tale for Rey, and Rey is another Mary Sue because Kathleen Kennedy seems to think that the hero arc is not to suffer defeat, to gather themselves together, to push themselves, to train and learn, and then go back into the fray. No, she thinks it is about women beating men, and the effort that goes into becoming strong enough is a waste of time. Just start out with the woman perfect in everything.

It’s the same reason why I didn’t even bother giving Chivalry a chance.

The women are not perfect but they are flawless. The men, no matter how good or great, MUST be critically flawed in the least. Because it is so out of touch with reality the story is not relatable and any comedy must be very good to overcome a surreality that is difficult to suspend disbelief for.

As a one-off, it would be tolerable, but it is in everything now. You’re a Nazi if you point it out.

duncanm
duncanm
June 26, 2023 9:00 am

The word is out in the industry and they’re as mad as hell with the cops for failing to keep these lawless predators away from rest stops.
This won’t end well.

worse than that.. for your link

“The coppers rang from Moree and they weren’t that interested. They just said if you see the cars again give us a ring.

“I found out later that they [the attackers] must have gone back to the Shell and bashed up another truck driver pretty badly. He’s not real good in hospital, from what I’ve been told. He’ll need facial reconstruction.”

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2023 9:04 am

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11714570/reviews/

5/10
Not a comedy, but a commentary
CrazyArty19 August 2022
A feminist filmmaker is brought into a film production to make it more appropriate for female audiences. Stars Steve Coogan.

I watched the first 2 episodes and quickly realised this was not funny. The third episode drops a huge bombshell. I started to realise this was not in fact a comedy but a drama with social commentary.

I really like Coogan’s work and he comes with an excellent back catalogue but this is not good. It’s not funny, it’s not very interesting, it’s almost pointless as a TV show. Almost. Avoid.

1/10
borefest
jefferons22 April 2022
I had high hopes for this show, with steve coogan in it. I watched the first episode all the way through ,and didn’t laugh once, i was bored in many places, maybe i’m missing something. The total lack of reviews , on imdb was odd as well. Nothing seemed to happen, or if it did it was very strange or unsettling.

1/10
Great cast Terrible script
marklegothique23 April 2022
What always amazes me with total duds like Chivalry is that “did no one realise it just isn’t funny” during the filming?

Total dross. Completely unfunny. Clever in places. But utterly dire.

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1/10
Him & Her, it ain’t
frukuk23 April 2022
I’m not sure what the creators/writers were trying to achieve. Is this meant to be a drama that gets you thinking about topical issues or is it meant to be a comedy that highlights the absurdity of some old/new political positions? Or is it meant to be a blend of both?

Unfortunately, the drama is insufficiently dramatic and the comedy is exceptionally cliché. I watched the first two episodes and it didn’t pull me in, it didn’t make me think and it didn’t make me laugh.

I’m aware of the “sunk cost” fallacy and I do wonder if this was commissioned as likely to be a “sure thing”, but the producers were unwilling to pull the plug after reading the disappointing scripts?

Sarah Solemani was wonderful as an actor in Him & Her (2010), but I really don’t rate her writing here. And Steve Coogan has done some wonderful work elsewhere, but his writing here is far too poor. Rather than lifting each other’s writing, they seem to have weighed each other down.

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2/10
Vapid, vacuous vanity polemic!
bosporan23 April 2022
Pretentious poppycock with no redeeming features (other than Sienna Miller obviously). The king is naked, leaving salacious, puerile humour, devoid of coherent core content. This is neither as intelligent, funny nor sophisticated as it purports to be.

Endured two episodes (medal deserved) and would rather stab my eyes with a pencil, than suffer the remainder.

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2/10
Really Poor
eselim917527 April 2022
First thing I have ever seen Steve Coogan in I didn’t appreciate. Cast is ok, (except for Aisling Bea hamming it up as usual), but the script is confusing and the “plot’/purpose of this programme unclear. Overall this is just a turn off. Steve Coogan so often totally nails whatever he is involved in. Not here, not sure why! But maybe just the co-writing collaboration doesn’t work. Really disappointed because I wanted and expected to like it because of Steve, but just couldn’t.

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3/10
Some good scenes, badly linked together.
davidallenxyz9 May 2022
Bobby (Sarah Solemani) is an independent film director who finds herself pulled into reshoots of another director’s work by producer Cameron (Steve Coogan). Despite working in the industry they are totally different characters, so how will they be able to work together?

This is the premise. And it’s intriguing. But despite a talented cast and a costly production budget the series just fails to deliver.

It feels like Solemani and Coogan had a handful of good ideas (a conversation with the outgoing director, a self-conscious body double, a revelation of abuse, an unexpected racist rant) but couldn’t find a good way of linking them all together.

The single biggest problem is Bobby. She is effectively the lead character, and the early episodes encourage you to side with her, because she is the one exposing the bad behaviour of Hollywood men (as per the over-used hashtag). Bobby is also a working mother who is having problems in her own relationship. Easy to sympathise with, right?

Wrong. Because it turns out that Solemani’s Bobby is just as self-serving as the rest of the industry. And she simply doesn’t have the charm or heart of Coogan’s Cameron.

Ultimately the person that is exposing bad behaviour is the worst behaved of them all. Although that is actually quite believable, it doesn’t work in the context of this show, which has been set up to sanctify the issues she is fighting for.

Many storylines are barely explored, or resolved suddenly so that they can move on to the next scene. All very unsatisfying, with the final episode going for a dramatic climax that comes out of nowhere, and a bizarre scene involving a cake.

I think there was a good series buried somewhere in the script, but in trying to tweak it to meet the political agenda of the day, it lost its way.

One really weird thing about the show that I just have to mention is Sarah Solemani’s wardrobe. She’s in great shape. But did every outfit need to be quite as tight fitting and revealing? Didn’t seem necessary for her character, and several scenes seemed more dedicated to showing her body off Baywatch-style than anything else. Odd.

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1/10
OMG
annabelle-7166725 April 2022
The is proper rubbish please don’t waste your time. The only thing that works in this is sienna miller maybe she needs the money. It’s so bad I actually I felt bile coming up from my stomach into the back of my mouth not good.

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2/10
Unfunny
garyjbaker30 April 2022
Not sure what it wanted to do, wasn’t funny or edgy or interesting. Steve is a brilliant performer but unless he’s writing with someone funny he falls flat sadly. Just seemed a bit tired.

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1/10
Lacking in comedy and drama.
donmazeu30 April 2022
This is portrayed as being a comedy drama and is lacking in both elements.

If you manage to watch the entire series, You should receive a reward.

I couldn’t make it through two episodes.

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1/10
Not funny at all.
johnahayes-7584428 April 2022
Firstly I will say that I absolutely love Steve Coogan. I’ve watched everything he’s been in, and I felt that this show held him back. I had high hopes for this show because of Steve Coogan but it’s an absolute disappointment.

I found myself constantly saying “Needs more Alan Partridge”. Quite frankly, Steve Coogan is brilliant, but I felt he was held back in this series.

Helen
Helen
June 26, 2023 9:05 am

Crossie,

The government’s repose to COVID has made life unbearable for so many, from Mums turning to the wall and dying because they couldn’t get out any more, to loved ones dying alone in nursing homes or hospital because of ridiculous protocols. I am filled with a cold rage over it. You should have been able to spend as long as you wanted to be with your mum, she still may have died while you were not there, but not while you weren’t allowed to be there. Life and dying is hard enough with out the government making it a torture. You did all you could, Crossie and that is what counts.

Hospitals and even wards in hospitals and states vary. When Mum died last August, Darwin Hospital gave us a side room where we could all gather around her and we sang and joked and chatted, just like we would have around the kitchen table, but this time it was a bed, and Mum was dying. This was after we were offered palliative care, just 200 m away from the hospital, but she would have had to have a covid test to go there (go figure) and we would only be allowed two at a time to be with her. And the transfer had to be by ambulance, we weren’t allowed to wheel her over there with an oxygen bottle in the sunshine, which she would have loved. We were lucky in that we had a tremendous ward sister who took control and made it happen. I could go on about many, many things but that is the bones of it.
She was a fighter, a bush woman and she fought to live until the end. I miss her terribly and have not yet reached a place where I can let her go – one day I will, it is just me, I have always been this way. Grief affects each of us individually, and Crossie, don’t try to make it quicker or lesser, just go with it and try to remember times when you were happy together.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 9:05 am

Sleazy just on 3AW telling us “conssisushional change issss hard”.
Presumably almost as hard as saying the word “conssisushional”.
He is “confident that when sporting organisations, corporate Australia and faith groups start talking to people, the Yes campaign will get up”.
He is not reading the tea leaves here.
It is precisely because we are being hectored by the AFL, NRL and the big banks that people are turning off it.

Vicki
Vicki
June 26, 2023 9:07 am

If you are going to have an adverse reaction I’m extremely sceptical that it’s going to sneak up without warning many many months later and look like a conventional heart attack.

We would all hope like hell you are right. And in the cases are talking about – fit people with no prior cardiac problems – fatal heart attacks do happen. But statisticians – like Dr Jessica Rose and Prof. Norman Fenton – look at the probabilities in respect to these recent anomalous events.

I could also refer to the unusual vascular configurations that are turning up in the cases where autopsies are performed. But I know you will single out some early finding errors, so that is useless. At the end of the day, the evidence will mount to the point that it is accepted. This is already happening in the some quarters of the medical profession.

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2023 9:07 am

Conssisushional Albanese vs Ohseeahniuck Turnbull

James Hird vs James Joyce

It’s your choice.

What are ya?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 26, 2023 9:14 am

To know that we know what we know, and to know that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge.

– Nicolaus Copernicus

Vicki
Vicki
June 26, 2023 9:15 am

She was a fighter, a bush woman and she fought to live until the end. I miss her terribly and have not yet reached a place where I can let her go – one day I will, it is just me, I have always been this way. Grief affects each of us individually

I feel your grief, Helen. It is hard to let go. I dealt with the passing of mum and dad, but I struggled with the death of a friend – a young mother and also my doctor (and personal friend) at the time. I was asked to give the eulogy at her funeral and that was one of the hardest things I have done. I bottled the grief up for years and it was only when I was able to release it that I realised how much distress had been prolonged. All the best.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 26, 2023 9:19 am

No-one has a heart attack that isn’t caused by the vaccine.
Before the vaccine no-one ever suddenly dropped dead of a heart attack.
It just didn’t ever happen.
Not even once.

for those of you who have not read ‘ the art of the argument’, the above is a combination of 2 sophist techniques:

1) Straw man (misrepresenting your opponents argument, then attacking that misrepresentation).
2) Reductio ad absurdum (taking the general principle of your opponents argument, and taking it to the extreme, as if that is their argument).

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2023 9:19 am

Judge for yourself. Strong stomach recommended. Part 3 is in second comment. What it does show is the high level administrative structure underpinning this.

Shawn ?
@YoumotherFUDer

WARNING:
I wouldn’t watch this if I was you.
Viewer discretion is strongly advised.
Sensitive content: Ages 18+ ONLY

PART 2

OCEANGATE CULTGATE PIZZAGATE EARTHGATE

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 26, 2023 9:20 am

Re Burney and the cordial…

Spent some time in the last five years in an Outback “community”.

Its only local store, heavily fortified with steel mesh, featured a large range of fried chooks, tinned food, frozen kangaroo tails, and an extensive range of lollies and chips. And Coke. Lotsa Coke. Not the diet sort. Everything at least double the price of town.

Apparently there is an occasional push to sell “healthy options” but there’s very little purchased by the locals. The kids clamour for Coke all the time.

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2023 9:22 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 9:24 am

On underwater misadventures.
I saw someone last night refer to the submersible as a “submissible”.
That is either an inadvertent spelling error or the best pun evah.

Jorge
Jorge
June 26, 2023 9:28 am

“I found out later that they [the attackers] must have gone back to the Shell and bashed up another truck driver pretty badly. He’s not real good in hospital, from what I’ve been told. He’ll need facial reconstruction.”

S Africa, or the Israeli border with Gaza come to mind. Lucky they don’t have Stinger missiles. And lucky we’ll soon have the Voice.

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2023 9:30 am

I thought the Albanese government’s excuses for the Voice – for dividing Australians by race – couldn’t get dumber. But then Linda Burney started babbling about sweet cordial.

This is why her minders insist she stick with the highlighted scripts.

The kids clamour for Coke all the time.

And get free dental care for life, I presume.

And so it goes on.

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2023 9:32 am

The real message here is that food inflation is roaring ahead.

In Italy, strike call lowers pasta prices

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 9:39 am

Its only local store, heavily fortified with steel mesh, featured a large range of fried chooks, tinned food, frozen kangaroo tails, and an extensive range of lollies and chips. And Coke. Lotsa Coke. Not the diet sort. Everything at least double the price of town.

Which da Voice will solve, no doubt.
Or maybe not.
Because, if the people profiting from the store are closely connected with someone on da Voice …

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2023 9:42 am

The real message here is that food inflation is roaring ahead.

Wine may get cheaper though.

Europe Drowns In Wine As EU Adopts ‘Crisis’ Measures To Rescue Producers (25 Jun)

Global warming doesn’t seem to be making a dent in wine production, despite regular screeching from the usual suspects (like this one from a few days ago). So at least we can drown our sorrows as the planet perishes abjectly.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 26, 2023 9:43 am

And get free dental care for life, I presume.

And so it goes on.

Dont forget the free dialysis and the diabetic meds too…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 9:47 am

1) Straw man (misrepresenting your opponents argument, then attacking that misrepresentation).

Not so.
The person making the argument is up to “sudden death # 362”, many of which have later been shown to be from other causes (e.g. suicide, long standing cancer or some other known chronic condition) but has never once considered the probability that any one of the “sudden deaths” may not be vaccine related.
So, a reasonable characterisation of their position.
This is the lesson currently being learned by Elbow.
Over-reach.
It will kill your message every time.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 9:50 am

Dont forget the free dialysis and the diabetic meds too…

I actually don’t mind that.
Diabetes (or rather, neglected or undiagnosed diabetes) is a serious problem in remote communities so, of all the money spent on Aboriginal issues, that is the least of my concerns.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2023 9:50 am


Oh and I think premature vaccine speculation is pretty disrespectful to the families of the deceased.

Why?
The bloke died well before his time, since both his parents lived into their nineties, and he lived a moderate lifestyle.
The only thing that stands out is his recent booster.

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2023 9:51 am

Sleazy just on 3AW telling us “conssisushional change issss hard”.

Apparently Hamish Macdonald gave Elbow hard time on The Project last week.

From the transcript:

Macdonald: PM, I’m trying to keep this as simple as possible. I’m trying to keep this as simple as possible, with respect, Prime Minister.

After which Kate Langbroek said housing affordability was a more pressing issue for Australians than the Voice, so why has the government let in 400 000 migrants in 12 months?

Elbow’s perforamnce was, reportedly, Burneyesque.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 9:51 am

Speaking of remote area spongers on the health system, do we need to do a roll call?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 26, 2023 9:54 am

Vicki,
If you go to the AMPS web page you can access video of all the different talks during the recent Malhotra visit.

Club Grubbery com au has Graham Hood and John Larter conducting many interesting interviews with Aussie and overseas Dr’s, politicians and vaccines injured etc.

Dr Altman was on last week and gave a summary of recent developments. Said could not keep up with the information.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 26, 2023 9:55 am

but has never once considered the probability that any one of the “sudden deaths” may not be vaccine related.

This is also an example of ‘straw manning’ 😉

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 9:56 am

Dont forget the free dialysis and the diabetic meds too…

My reading of the Medicare website tells me that dialysis is fully covered in a public hospital, irrespective of race.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2023 9:58 am

The kids clamour for Coke all the time.

Seen that at the local roadhouse, on many occasions. Mum, sending the children off to school with “breakfast” – a bottle of Coke, and a bag of chips.

MatrixTransform
June 26, 2023 9:59 am

The person making the argument is up to “sudden death # 362”

yr very fluent in Fallacy
…is it yr first or second language?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 26, 2023 10:01 am

So, Tennis Elbow is asking the Voters to vote ‘Yes’ to the ‘Voice’. But what is this ‘Voice’? And as an addition/change to the Australian Constitution (Constitutional Law), no wording whatsoever is being put forward as to what this ‘Voice’ is and what a Voter can vote on. All rather strange and sinister in fact IMHO.

Would you sign a blank cheque and hand it over to the ‘Pollies’/Authorities? Because this what they are asking the Voters to do. ‘Trust me’ states Tennis Elbow. The ‘Voice’ will be a modest change to the Australian Constitution. LOL. Its is so modest, that Tennis Elbow is ‘too shy’ (devious) to fully explain.

So the decision as to how a Voter should vote seems very straightforward to me.

A Very Big NO and ‘up yours’ Tennis Elbow and to all your Cronies.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 26, 2023 10:01 am

Speedbox,

Another detailed update from

Nuclear Falseflag on Zaporozhye NPP Heats Up + Major Wagner Updates and More

SIMPLICIUS THE THINKER
26 JUN 2023

Good assessemt & Explanation of the Wagner Situation

areff
areff
June 26, 2023 10:01 am

Indolent, don’t see why the Masons are upset. If you want to screw around with gender, surely the place to start is an organisation where the blokes already wear aprons. It’s only Western transphobics who say a billygoat can’t be a nanny.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 26, 2023 10:01 am

Dont forget the free dialysis and the diabetic meds too…

I actually don’t mind that.

I do, because the meds, the medical care and all the other socialised wealth transfers which support poor life choices are not ‘free’, they are stolen from people like me who earned that wealth, and make my childrens’ future poorer. I paid millions of dollars of tax in my life (well above any benefit I received) and would rather have retained control of those funds to direct at my children, not theirs.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2023 10:03 am

The person making the argument is up to “sudden death # 362”, many of which have later been shown to be from other causes (e.g. suicide, long standing cancer or some other known chronic condition)

Perhaps.
But Colin Powell, Hammerin’Hank Aaron, Marvelous Marvin Hagler &
Jamie Foxx didn’t just drop dead because of Suicide, long standin’ Cancer, or sump’n else, y’all know wut i’m sayin’?

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2023 10:04 am

The thing is, if the “lifestyle issues” aren’t addressed, the chronic health problems will persist, the “gap” will never be closed and it will all continue to be our fault and grist for the activists’ mills.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 10:04 am

flyingduksays:

June 26, 2023 at 9:55 am

but has never once considered the probability that any one of the “sudden deaths” may not be vaccine related.

This is also an example of ‘straw manning’ ?

Nup.
Fact.
Time and again we have “Bing Bong! Sudden death alert!” only have the most cursory research show the cause to be something totally unrelated to vaccines.
In one case the unrelated cause of death was articulated in the third paragraph of Chicken Little’s linked article.
So, yes, if someone is so myopic as to see every headline mentioning the unexpected death of someone as vax related, and is proven wrong time and again, that needs to be called out.
There are problems with vaccines, no doubt.
But indiscriminately throwing every suicide, cancer death and fall off a ladder onto the body count pile is counter-productive to making a sound argument.
….
Cue in 3 … 2 … 1 …
“But the other side lied and exaggerated too.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2023 10:05 am

I paid millions of dollars of tax in my life (well above any benefit I received) and would rather have retained control of those funds to direct at my children, not theirs.

Well said!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 10:08 am

Calling “strawman” at every turn might be straw-gaslighting.
Is that a thing?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2023 10:10 am

I wished my mum had sent me off to school with “breakfast” – a bottle of Coke, and a bag of chips.

You’ve just got it in for Aborigines, Zulu.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2023 10:14 am

You’re not being serious if you think one of the Scandinavians have done this

The one which never got discussed much was the possibility of ecoterrorism. Lots of yowling from Greens at the time about how the EU had to stop burning gas immediately, to save the planet, and NordStream was as much as a cause celebre for them as Keystone XL.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 10:24 am

 I paid millions of dollars of tax in my life (well above any benefit I received) and would rather have retained control of those funds to direct at my children, not theirs.

I think you might be missing a fairly major point there.
How much of your gross income before you returned some in tax was actually tax-payer funded?
Time with the CMF (or whatever it is called now)? Fully taxpayer funded. I could argue than any money spent on glorified camping trips to Afghanistan or Iraq was a complete waste of my taxes.
What about income from medi-vac jobs? Mostly taxpayer funded (maybe with some corporate donations thrown in). Why should I pay to airlift a drunk driver to hospital after an altercation with a gum tree? Just his poor lifestyle choices.
And presumably you received some Medicare funding over the journey? Were any of those operations conducted on people who were on the table as a result of poor lifestyle choices? I need to know, because I don’t want my millions in taxes funding that stuff either.

Crossie
Crossie
June 26, 2023 10:26 am

Farmer Gez says:
June 26, 2023 at 8:48 am
The Voice will fix this no doubt.
https://bigrigs.com.au/2023/06/16/veteran-truckie-fights-off-carload-of-assailants-in-northern-nsw-town/
Talked about this with a local truckie at the pub last night. The word is out in the industry and they’re as mad as hell with the cops for failing to keep these lawless predators away from rest stops.
This won’t end well.

Our elites have destroyed a whole generation of indigenous* boys by telling them they have been wronged, the world owes them and nothing will happen to them if they do the wrong thing. In fact the voice will make it far worse, it will legalise their depredations against the rest of the citizenry.

*I have made the assumption these are indigenous teenagers based on the location. Furthermore, non-indigenous teens would have been pursued, arrested and prosecuted.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2023 10:31 am

Theodore Dalrymple:

World Gone Cuckoo (23 Jun, via Lucianne)

I don’t know whether there’s a paywall, but clicking through from Lucianne worked for me. He has an excellent candidate for a Liberty Quote:

Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make Woke.

Yep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 10:40 am

Rogersays:

June 26, 2023 at 10:04 am

The thing is, if the “lifestyle issues” aren’t addressed, the chronic health problems will persist, the “gap” will never be closed and it will all continue to be our fault and grist for the activists’ mills.

Health and medical issues arising from poor lifestyle choices are not the sole preserve of Aboriginals.
My point was, if a member of the medical profession argues for limiting funding which might be treating “lifestyle” medical conditions, there might be unintended consequences. Extended across the whole population that might just put a crimp in the Medicare funding hose.
A coronary funding blockage if you will.
Purveyors of Sporty Beemers would be collateral damage.

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2023 10:48 am

Health and medical issues arising from poor lifestyle choices are not the sole preserve of Aboriginals.

No, but the issue is “chronic” in those communities and, unlike the rest of Australia, public health measures, beginning with education, never seem to be consistently applied (the booze bans being a notable exception that actually worked). A cynic might aver that it is in some peoples’ interests for the poor health outcomes and related misery to continue.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 26, 2023 10:50 am

A pupil in Scotland told their school they identified as a fox amid what teaching unions have warned is a ‘toxic’ environment for staff.

Secondary teachers have been left fearing disciplinary action for either denying children their rights or indulging bizarre whims.

Union leaders are now demanding that ministers and councils act decisively to clear up the moral minefield.

Daily Mail

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2023 10:53 am

Surely there were easier targets to sabotage than undersea gas pipelines.

Not if you don’t want to go to prison for a long time. Also polonium tea is worth avoiding if possible. 😀

I don’t really think it, but it’s more plausible than Sweden. The motive, method and opportunity were all there. Just ask the various aquatic ferals infesting the Port of Ncl these last few weeks. (Which hasn’t been widely reported in the MSM for some odd reason.)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 10:53 am

Top Endersays:

June 26, 2023 at 10:50 am

A pupil in Scotland told their school they identified as a fox amid what teaching unions have warned is a ‘toxic’ environment for staff.

Secondary teachers have been left fearing disciplinary action for either denying children their rights or indulging bizarre whims.

Easy to fix.
The teachers should all identify as chooks and say the classroom is no longer a safe space.

Gabor
Gabor
June 26, 2023 10:56 am

Re. camping trip, I think these people and their relatives would strongly disagree.
Whether us being there in the first place is neither here nor there as far as the outcome goes.

Conflict Dates of conflict Number of deaths
——————————————-
Afghanistan 11 October 2001 to 8 October 2021 46
Iraq 16 July 2003 to 14 December 2013 4

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 26, 2023 10:59 am

Simon Crean passed away “suddenly” in Berlin this morning.

they had his replacement on the wireless this morning Claire O’Neil(?)

Had been a polli since she was 16 years old and mentored by the great man himself….
What a disgusting ruling class we have.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 26, 2023 10:59 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2023 11:00 am

A pupil in Scotland told their school they identified as a fox amid what teaching unions have warned is a ‘toxic’ environment for staff.

I liked the kid who identified as a mushroom. Given what goes on in schools that seems reasonable.

‘This is ridiculous!’ Top Catholic school allows pupil to identify as a mushroom (24 Jun)

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2023 11:02 am

A Scottish Government spokesman said: ‘Schools should be a safe, supportive environment for all pupils, regardless of gender, where everyone’s rights are respected. All local authority guidance to schools should reflect this.’

So children now have a “right” to identify as animals.

The SNP makes the Monster Raving Loony Party look quite sensible.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 26, 2023 11:04 am

Chanticleer

Desperate PwC split could change big four firms forever

If it works – and that’s a big if – PwC’s plan to split off its government consulting practice could send shockwaves through the local professional services sector.

There’s more than a whiff of desperation about PwC’s plan to sell its government consulting practice to a partner buyout backed by private equity firm Allegro.

There’s the $1 fire sale price; Allegro’s key role is to provide the capital required to set up the new business, which has the working title of Bell.

There’s the fact partners, staff and hangers-on from PwC’s global leadership have been parachuted in to take control.

And finally there’s the Sunday briefings and extremely tight time frame that all parties are working under to complete one of the most unique and complex transactions seen for some time.

But if PwC, Allegro and the 10 partners who will lead Bell can actually pull it off, it could change the big four accounting/consulting oligopoly forever.

That’s because Bell, or whatever the business ends up being called, will give up all private sector work, a move specifically designed to deal with what a Senate report last week described as the conflict at the heart of the PwC scandal: the fact the firm has always worked as a tax agent and adviser for the private sector while also advising the public sector.

Bell would specialise in work for government departments and agencies, public sector organisations such as universities and public health bodies. The idea is that by steering clear of the private sector, Bell simply couldn’t do what PwC did – use secret government information to help corporate clients and make profits for itself. (The new body will also need to adhere to the Australian Public Service code of conduct.)

Notably, none of the 63 PwC partners and staff on the infamous list of people who received the leaked tax information would work for the new company, nor will anyone associated with other government scandals such as robo-debt.

The hope is that a pure-play, independent government consulting firm would have a distinct advantage over the likes of Deloitte, KPMG and EY, which would continue to face the challenge of managing the structural conflict that the Senate committee wants addressed. That’s not to mention McKinsey and Boston Consulting Group, who have a model where they advise governments on policy and then companies affected by that policy on strategy.

Which begs the question: if Bell does get off the ground – and that remains a big if at this stage – could the other members of the big four be forced to contemplate a similar split?

Of course, a lot of water needs to go under the bridge at Bell before such a question is even worth considering.

Allegro briefed the 150-odd partners on its plan on Sunday afternoon – about 130 partners will be invited to join Bell – two weeks after PwC effectively told these same partners that they were out and the firm would approve a partner buyout.

The plan is to set Bell up as a company rather than a partnership, with an independent board to appoint a chief executive in due course. It is expected that Bell would need to perch on PwC’s systems and back office functions for a period of up to six months as it sets itself up; Allegro’s funding package will help pay for Bell’s set-up costs.

Partners and staff in the government business still need to be convinced to shift across to Bell. And while it is hard to see what other options they have, partners will need to leave behind their entitlements, ownership stake in the main PwC business and the other trappings of the partner track, including lucrative retirement payments partners receive. That is obviously no small thing if you’ve spent your life on the famous “partner track”.

A fresh start?

Still, the Allegro camp is confident that staff will want to make a fresh start. Indeed, Allegro expects that the challenge may well be convincing PwC to let some partners go; the firm must release partners and staff from non-compete clauses if they are to move across to Bell and it may be that many inside PwC are keen to put some distance between themselves and the tarnished firm.

Other parties need to be convinced of the merits of this deal, too.

Current government clients will need to be convinced to transfer their contracts from PwC to the new firm. And perhaps most importantly, politicians and bureaucrats that Bell is sufficiently different from PwC.

The firm’s chief political persecutors, Labor senator Deborah O’Neill and Greens senator Barbara Pocock, are clearly unimpressed with the move and the fact it comes before PwC has formally identified the full list of people involved in the tax leaks scandal.

“The haste to deal with profit pain, as evidenced here, is at odds with the tardiness of a response to questions (by the Senate and the media) of probity, ethical failure and the multi-year cover-up they have enacted,” O’Neill said on Friday.

Those concerns are unlikely to have been soothed by Sunday’s news. But the Allegro camp say their private soundings of senior government have been positive. The view from the Bell protagonists at least is that rightly or wrongly, governments have become reliant on the work that PwC’s government business does, and removing that capacity would be problematic.

The announcement on Sunday that PwC global clients and industries leader, Kevin Burrowes will take over as Australian chief executive from Kristin Stubbins should be well received, given it suggests PwC’s global leadership has finally woken up to the size of the mess here.

But there was nothing on Sunday about PwC explaining how and why it ended up here. And notably nothing about giving up the names of the full group of people involved in the tax leaks scandal, as the Senate has demanded.

Until the firm does that, the political pressure will not abate.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 26, 2023 11:07 am

BWAHAHAHAHA who could have guessed?………………..oh wait.

It’s a bloodbath in the wind industry.

Despite the wind being free, collecting it appears to cost a fortune. Siemens Energy lost a third of its stock price on Friday. Just like that, seven billion dollars in market value disappeared.

Only a month ago they were expecting to break even, as the Wall Street Journal reports, the executives appear to have been blindsided by the rapidly escalating maintenance costs. The problem is so bad, and perhaps fundamental, that shareholders in other turbine manufacturers are selling out. Vestas Wind fell 7% Friday.

https://joannenova.com.au/2023/06/siemans-energy-stocks-fall-36-turbines-are-degrading-faster-than-expected/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2023 11:11 am

The other thing about the ecoterrorism line that makes no sense is the reticence of Western powers to admit any such thing.

Dover – You been living under a rock for the last decade? Of course they would never admit such a thing! The ecocrazies are protected warriors doing Gaia’s holy work. They are a useful arm of the statist Left, like mostly peaceful BLM rioters and the Antifa fascists. The amount of MSM reporting of ecoterrorism is nearly nil – like all those substation attacks in the US.

Given subsequent events and various wheezes used in the media I am fairly sure it was a CIA or SEAL op. I wasn’t at the time, but later stuff in the MSM bolstering plausible deniability and muddying the waters does sound like the usual dissimulation from the Biden regime. Note there’s a story out a day or so ago pooh poohing the Covid lab leak theory, which smells like the same sort of tactics.

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2023 11:14 am

Despite the wind being free, collecting it appears to cost a fortune. Siemens Energy lost a third of its stock price on Friday. Just like that, seven billion dollars in market value disappeared.

Wind “farms” to government: “We’re gonna need bigger subsidies.”

(Every wind turbine in Australia attracts $500 000k + per annum.)

Lysander
Lysander
June 26, 2023 11:15 am

I don’t often agree with that NATO shill Konstantin but he was right on the weekend when he said “Putin must remain in power” because “a coup by several opposing warlords wouldn’t be so great for Russia’s many independent nuke silos.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 26, 2023 11:20 am

Ed Casesays:
June 26, 2023 at 10:10 am
I wished my mum had sent me off to school with “breakfast” – a bottle of Coke, and a bag of chips.

You’ve just got it in for Aborigines, Zulu.

Turd Case

Have you dug out the evidence yet to support your claims:

That the Queensland Native Police killed some 41,ooo aborigines;

That Fraser Junior killed an aboriginal in Toowoomba;

That Fraser Junior killed “thousands” of aboriginals over 28 years in Queensland;

That “98%’ of aborigines were killed by colonists?

Or did you just make all of those stories up, as usual?

Delta A
Delta A
June 26, 2023 11:20 am

(Every wind turbine in Australia attracts $500 000k + per annum.)

Roger, do you have a link for that? I need this sort of info for my ongoing arguments with climate crazies.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 11:23 am

Gaborsays:

June 26, 2023 at 10:56 am

Re. camping trip, I think these people and their relatives would strongly disagree.

Gabor.
I exclude the tiny minority who actually ventured outside the wire and put themselves at risk.
I am talking about the long tail of shiny arses collecting deployment allowances and per diems to “support” the 0.5% actually fighting.
And to declare the whole thing in Afghanistan and Iraq a folly and a waste of taxpayer’s money is not to denigrate the casualties at all.
That is why people refer to it as expenditure of blood and treasure.
My underlying point is that I could find a significant minority of taxpayers who would disagree with almost any element of government expenditure.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 26, 2023 11:25 am

Went to see vascular specialist at canbra hospital last week. Saw an Indian registrar first, he explained what is going on at the moment, very surprised he told me the truth about the dangers of surgery if I have to have a stent put in and life expectancy after. The head of department came in and said the same things. Still got a way to go before surgery is necessary unless something untoward happens and the I’ve got to get fixed again. The last time I got fixed I stopped chasing cars. Seems like a different fix. The surgeons usually gloss over the downsides. Off to see an Orthopaedic guy again next week. It never ends.

shatterzzz
June 26, 2023 11:28 am

Simon Crean .. At least he died doing what he did best .. ripping off the public purse! .. 74 and topping up his bloated pension with a “jerbs fer the boyz” trade mission ..
same bloke took his wife to France, on the taxpayer dollar , cos she wanted to learn French ..
I’m gussin’ it’ll be us (tax money) that’ll be bringing him back for a us, again, funded farewell ……!

rickw
rickw
June 26, 2023 11:28 am

The coppers rang from Moree and they weren’t that interested. They just said if you see the cars again give us a ring.

Seems they’re only interested in bashing and tasering grannies.

If the truck driver had of beaten the shit out of the mongrels, naturally they would be there to arrest him in a heartbeat.

Selective policing wouldn’t be a problem if Australians hadn’t given up their guns and the right to use them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2023 11:32 am

GreyRanga says:
June 26, 2023 at 11:25 am

Went to see vascular specialist at canbra hospital last week. Saw an Indian registrar first …

Gasp!
A truck-stop doctor?

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2023 11:36 am

Roger, do you have a link for that? I need this sort of info for my ongoing arguments with climate crazies.

Advance Australia, Delta.

I imagine a little digging around RET payments could confirm the figure (as at 2022).

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2023 11:39 am

…he was right on the weekend when he said “Putin must remain in power” because “a coup by several opposing warlords wouldn’t be so great for Russia’s many independent nuke silos.

Yes, very much a case of better the devil you know.

If only he hadn’t over-reached with this stupid war.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 26, 2023 11:39 am

Elbow’s perforamnce was, reportedly, Burneyesque.

“‘Ere, get some of this cordial inna ya!”

I have seen Labor in Parliament. They obviously do not know what cordiality is.

They may think that ‘congenial’ means born with two heads, and that is why they think Lambie should be more congenial.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 26, 2023 11:45 am

You’re not being serious if you think one of the Scandinavians have done this

Ikea now sells pipelines in flatpacks. Not saying they are connected, but…

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2023 11:45 am

😀

That’s cheered me up, ML.

Are you here all week?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 26, 2023 11:46 am

Are you here all week?

Let’s just say I’m “Trying the veal.”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 26, 2023 11:48 am

The thing is, if the “lifestyle issues” aren’t addressed, the chronic health problems will persist, the “gap” will never be closed and it will all continue to be our fault and grist for the activists’ mills.

They serve a useful purpose.
It allows the grifters an ample supply of other peoples scabs to cover themselves with while they wail for more munni.
……

Our elites have destroyed a whole generation of indigenous* boys by telling them they have been wronged, the world owes them and nothing will happen to them if they do the wrong thing

Yup, nothing more corrosive to a persons sense of right and wrong than letting yourself fester on how you have been wronged.
You think Bunter Hiden thinks hes been wronged?
It oozes through his emails.

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 11:48 am

I don’t know.
Relative by marriage was told it wasn’t worth while getting surgery after his 60 something heart attack, went private and all of a sudden it was possible.
He got another fifteen years, possibly would have gotten more if he hadn’t decided to eat whatever he felt like, whenever he felt like it.

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2023 11:49 am

I’m going to keep paying for private health insurance, anyhow.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 26, 2023 11:52 am

a coup by several opposing warlords wouldn’t be so great for Russia’s many independent nuke silos

IF the alphabet agencies have a brain they would have a standing offer “per head” for nuclear material/bombs in the event of civil strife.
Along the lines of “all you need to do is keep the gates closed, and do your job until we come to collect them and you will be a multi millionaire in a new country”.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 26, 2023 11:53 am

I can assure you Thancho there were no holes in the floor.

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