Open Thread – Mon 10 July 2023


The Colosseum in Rome, Fyodor Matveyev ,1816

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Ed Case
Ed Case
July 10, 2023 12:09 am

4 wickets to get!

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 10, 2023 12:13 am

Re Vit D, I have had everyone in the family on supplementary Vit D ever since Covid. The evidence for it is very strong, and not all of us get the sunlight we need.

Stupid advice.
Vitamin D is a hormone, supplementing a hormone is madness.

C.L.
C.L.
July 10, 2023 12:27 am

Heh. Because I’m a parsimonious bugger, I’m sitting in the Free Wifi booth quayside here in Iceland with some of the ship’s crew.

I won’t write too much about the country right now, have to get my head around the beauty and ruggedness of the place. Also something odd…the sun didn’t set last night. We are above the arctic circle, the land of the midnight sun. Because of that all pervasive current from the south, the daytime temperatures are quite mild – it’s low twenties and t-shirts. There is still a dusting of last winter’s snow on the higher peaks and troughs that look like white fluffy aprons against the dark basalt. The rest is a brilliant green, mostly short cropped vegetation with a very few trees.

The grinding action of forgotten glaciers has left behind a landscape that appears to be quarried blue metal. Piles of broken, pounded and differentiated rock sprouting tufts of grass like a teenager’s chin.

Calli, you really have a talent.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 10, 2023 12:43 am

Basically, you’re not winning any Test Matches in England with only 2 bowlers.
Todd Murphy and Scott Boland are Victorian wastes of space!

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 1:41 am

Albanese was born on 2 March 1963 at St Margaret’s Hospital in the Sydney suburb of Darlinghurst.[12][13] He is the son of Carlo Albanese and Maryanne Ellery.[14] His mother was an Australian of Irish descent, while his Italian father was from Barletta in Apulia. His parents met in March 1962 on a voyage from Sydney to Southampton, England, on the Sitmar Line’s TSS Fairsky, where his father worked as a steward, but did not continue their relationship afterwards, going their separate ways.[15][16][17] Coincidentally, the Fairsky was also the ship on which Albanese’s future parliamentary colleague Julia Gillard and her family migrated to South Australia from the United Kingdom in 1966.

LOL, The Albanian was conceived on the same ship the Lying Slapper traveled to Australia. That ship was a worse disaster than the Titanic.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 2:07 am

The buffer, or rather, the meat in the sandwich.

Don’t forget that Russia’s aim was not Ukraine, but to alter Europe’s security architecture, says a top Baltic diplomat. “They wanted to create a buffer between themselves and Europe, and that buffer would be us”

Gabor
Gabor
July 10, 2023 3:05 am

C.L.
Jul 10, 2023 12:27 AM

Calli, you really have a talent.

That she has.

Petros
Petros
July 10, 2023 5:48 am

Calli should be writing a travel blog. So much better than the drivel offered up in the MSM.

Petros
Petros
July 10, 2023 5:51 am

So were the surrounds of the coliseum really overgrown like that? Artistic license?

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 6:21 am
Dot
Dot
July 10, 2023 6:38 am

Please listen.

Mark Dice

On RFK Jr on Lex Friedman

on the matter of Operation Mockingbird and the CIA paying, corrupting and compromising journalists.

(Daily Kos and Daily Beast are likely entirely CIA, Rolling Stone is compromised through its editors).

There is a clip of Glenn Greenwald on Tucker back on Fox in it for the basement guy fans. 🙂

https://youtu.be/nJM9tmEvccw

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 7:01 am

(Daily Kos and Daily Beast are likely entirely CIA, Rolling Stone is compromised through its editors).

So is NBC.

You know how they do it. They feed journalists four decent inside scoops. Then, the journalist is more trusting they put out the propaganda lead.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 10, 2023 7:12 am

British sports j’ismist.
Damned foreign places all sound the same.

Zatara
Zatara
July 10, 2023 7:21 am

Alaskan rednecks – in a class of their own.

In the summer Alaska has very little nighttime so how to celebrate their independence on July 4th when fireworks aren’t very visible or impressive?

Each year on the 4th of July, people visit Glacier View for the Car Huck where cars are sent careening off a 300-foot cliff with spectators down below to watch the incredible crashes.

An Alaska Independence Day Tradition – the Glacier View Car Huck

(For the redneck in all of us)

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 10, 2023 7:55 am

Hmmm…from memory I thought the weekly fred came up later than this…maybe being over the other side of the world has confused me more than usual…or could be the cider.

Anyway, will post this here too.

Pieces of Eight etc

We went to the Ulster Museum today to look at the Spanish Armada collection. Following their 1588 defeat by Francis Drake and Co, some of the surviving ships fled north around Scotland and then west of Ireland. One of them, the Girona, got wrecked and sank with the loss of 1500 lives.

There’s a good collection of artefacts in the Museum including three guns and a lot of personal items, including jewellery. In one case was a heap of gold coins – known as “pieces of eight” if you remember your Treasure Island, along with silver coins too.

That was followed by Carrickfergus Castle, north of Belfast. Dating from the 11th century, it has been in constant use including into the 20th century – its last starring role was as an air raid shelter.

Over the hundreds of years it has been hacked about, with gun firing fissures piercing the walls, and then anti-ship guns on swivelling rails put in place. Underground storage for shells was added too. Although a small castle, it was still a fascinating example of the type.

On to Londonderry, or if you’re really Irish, just Derry.

Re the comment on the old fred, I dunno much about “pieces of eight” but that’s what I think they were labeled in the museum.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 8:01 am

Aha. A sneaky Monday fred,,,

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 10, 2023 8:03 am

Ed Case
Jul 9, 2023 9:49 PM
You would be shown “on the books” as a crane driver, and paid as one, for “services rendered to the union” even if you didn’t have a crane drivers ticket, or the experience.,

says a bloke whose life experience of working was digging latrines for the Army and shoveling sheep shit on the farm.
Wake up, dickhead.

As a skin suit full of sh1t, who better than Turd Case to make this judgement?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 10, 2023 8:11 am

The AFR View

Courageous Clare’s plan to stop Australia’s great schooling rot

A Labor education minister is now acknowledging that the problems and solutions for Australian schools lie in fixing the poor quality training that teachers receive in our universities.

Jason Clare’s back-to-basics plan to shake up how teachers are taught to be teachers and to stop Australia’s great schooling rot suggests that a Labor education minister may have recognised the fundamental flaw with the previous Labor government’s Gonski “education revolution”.

The redistributional rationale for Gonski was to reallocate education funding from private to public schools to tackle socioeconomic educational disadvantage.

Yet the additional tens of billions of dollars that have been poured into schools have failed to improve student performance as standardised test results have stagnated or gone backwards, including for the poorer children who were supposed to benefit the most.

According to the Productivity Commission’s latest school performance dashboard update, between 2018 and 2022 the number of low-performing students on NAPLAN numeracy tests increased, and there was no significant improvement in the number of students performing well on NAPLAN literacy tests.

Like Labor’s other spending monument, the out-of-control National Disability Insurance Scheme that was supposed to pay for itself, “giving a Gonski” has fallen victim to the fallacy that measures success based on the size of the inputs, rather than focusing on the policy nuts and bolts of what is actually required to achieve the best outcomes.

The sweeping overhaul of “initial teaching education” announced after Friday’s meeting of education ministers endorses the findings of the expert review of teacher education commissioned by the Morrison government.

Led by former NSW education department secretary, trained teacher, and current Sydney University vice chancellor Mark Scott, the panel found that university education departments are failing to equip teaching graduates with the knowledge and skills required to effectively teach, and that feeling improperly prepared for coping with life in the classroom was, in turn, a major factor in teachers dropping out of their course or quitting the profession early in their careers.

Under a new accreditation regime for teaching degrees, it will be mandatory for universities to instruct trainee teachers in evidence-based reading, writing, arithmetic and classroom management practices, based on the proven educational science about what works best to promote student learning.

Ideological pedagogical battles

The teacher union-endorsed script for Labor education ministers is to support higher funding to pay for smaller class sizes and more teachers with smaller workloads.

Instead, Mr Clare is courageously wading into the highly ideological pedagogical battles of the so-called “teaching wars” – which, for example, nonsensically turn being for or against phonics, or sounding out words to learn to read, into a tribal political marker.

The plan to dictate core content and bring teacher education back to the fundamentals, with educational faculties given two years to show they are complying with the new standards, is, as we report today, already being challenged by the university-based progressive educational establishment.

It also follows the gauntlet thrown down to the higher education sector by the Productivity Commission’s latest five-year productivity inquiry report.

As commissioner Catherine de Fontenay wrote in these pages last week, the overall poor quality of university education means that too many students are not being properly equipped for the job market of the future, undermining the nation’s already flagging productivity in the process.

Providing targeted support for the most severely disabled would have avoided the NDIS running off the rails as a giant, open-ended and uncapped entitlement scheme that is now very politically challenging to rein in.

Lack of accountability

With spending on schools to rise from $18 billion to $33 billion across the decade to 2029 under the Turnbull government’s Gonski 2.0 funding deal, it’s scandalous that there has been no proper accountability for where the extra taxpayers’ money has gone and why it has done so little to improve standards.

Nor has it been explained why so many children fail to receive a proper grounding in the basic skills required to succeed at school, at university or TAFE, and in the workforce.

Without a background in the portfolio when appointed federal education minister, Mr Clare initially sought to win friends in the sector by rightly praising the life-changing importance of inspiring teachers, as depicted in the movie To Sir, With Love.

But he is now acknowledging that the problems and solutions for Australian schools lie in improving teacher quality – or, rather, in fixing the poor quality training that teachers receive in Australian universities.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 8:16 am

If he wasn’t already, Paul Keating is now the Chinese Communist Party’s roving loudmouth for hire (Paywallian):

Paul Keating has savaged NATO secretary-general Jens Stoltenberg as a “supreme fool” and claimed the military alliance had impeded peace since the Cold War, causing a diplomatic headache for Anthony Albanese ahead of his attendance at the summit of North American and European leaders.

With the Prime Minister invited to the summit in Lithuania as part of a grouping of Indo-Pacific guests, Mr Keating signalled his opposition to Australia’s attendance by declaring NATO had no business expanding its footprint into Asia.

The intervention from the former Labor prime minister comes as Mr Albanese will kick off his week of international travel in Berlin by signing a $1bn defence export contract with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

The deal will see Australia supply more than 100 Boxer heavy weapon carrier vehicles to Germany from 2025, supporting 1000 jobs in Queensland.

Link

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 10, 2023 8:18 am

Is the Pope Catholic? – (And as a Catholic the answer is No with the Current Pope, but should be the Rhetorical Yes)

Biden Believes China Wants to ‘Replace US as Leading Power’

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 10, 2023 8:21 am

Hip hip hoorej, Latvia’s President is gay.
You’ll notice the Newspeak directive that Homosexual has become “gay”, and gay has become “openly gay” because we all know that there’s probably been lotsa closet queeeen presidents in the past but the past was racist towards the LGBTQIAP+’s.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 8:21 am

Some really good similes in your travel pieces, Calli. Who could not enjoy sprouting like a teenager’s chin; glad you are enjoying Iceland so far.

Beertruk
Beertruk
July 10, 2023 8:23 am

Today’s Tele by Tim Blair:

You’ve failed to change my mind on electric vehicles Jane, but it was a good laugh
Our ideal source of advice when it comes to electric vehicles should be someone relatable. Someone who could be your friendly but exhausting local neighbourhood know-it-all. Someone who isn’t lacking in confidence, but possibly should be. Enter Jane Caro, writes Tim Blair.

Perhaps you’re one of many Australians presently thinking about trading in your normal car for something electric.

If so, you may appreciate some advice about just how difficult or otherwise that transition could be.

Is switching from a petrol or diesel vehicle to an EV particularly and needlessly complicated, such as – for example – dealing with all of the state and federal regulatory, legal and financial paperwork required to open even a modest small business?

Or is it simple, like changing genders?

According to Climate Change Minister and EV enthusiast Chris Bowen, complexity has nothing to do with it. Electric vehicles, he said in April, are all about allowing Australians “to have better choices”.

Which doesn’t exactly explain how Bowen became a minister.
“We want Australians who are making their own decisions to have better options,” he added, sounding like he means to stand down before the next election.

We can count Bowen out, then, when it comes to apolitical clarity about petrol-to-EV complications.

Most motoring journalists aren’t much use either because jumping so frequently from car to car has made them unusually and enviably adept at coping with different technologies and layouts.

They don’t know how difficult switching can be for motorists who’ve previously driven the same vehicle for a decade. And young people are the worst. Being essentially born with apps included means they are dismissive of us non-app types.

Struggling to connect a phone app to an EV recharger? Don’t ask a youngster for help. No matter your current age, you’ll instantly feel 20 years older.

Instead, our ideal source of advice in this situation might be someone who is relatable. Someone who could be your friendly but exhausting local neighbourhood know-it-all.

Someone who, despite not being especially grounded in science, physics or even elemental mechanics, might reckon themselves able to handle just about anything in those fields, up to and including a peak role in solving Australian and global energy production and delivery.

Someone who isn’t lacking in confidence, but possibly should be.

And we’ve got just the individual. Step forward advertising industry veteran, frequent ABC talking head and failed 2022 Senate candidate Jane Caro.
Climate-conscious Caro recently took one for the team by blowing $50,000 on a smallish, Chinese-made EV that in any proper market might be worth half that.

She then set off from Sydney on an electric voyage that proved genuinely and hilariously educational.

Things went sour from the moment Caro and co arrived at the destination.

“Dear Twitter, drove my new BYD Atto EV to Canberra,” Caro announced last week on social media.

“We cannot find a charging station anywhere that is operational and non-Tesla. We checked our hotel had them, but they failed to tell us for Tesla only. Can anyone help? This is everything you worry about when u buy an EV!”

Dozens of tips quickly arrived: “Have you got the PlugShare app?”; “ABRP app should help you out.”; “You just need to tweak the settings. Filter out options you can’t use.”; “Did you enter your car type into PlugShare?”; “Change the settings to not include Tesla.”; “Maybe use a local Facebook group to find someone who has a matching charging point at home.”; “Try Chargefox.”; “Check your settings in plugshare.”

None of these suggestions were of any use to Caro, who appeared to get a little stroppy with some of her correspondents – especially the chap who suggested “a TV series where we watch Jane trying to find charging points in different parts of Australia”.

I’d tune in. Absolutely.

Beertruk
Beertruk
July 10, 2023 8:28 am

OldOzzie
Jul 10, 2023 8:18 AM
Is the Pope Catholic? – (And as a Catholic the answer is No with the Current Pope, but should be the Rhetorical Yes)

Biden Believes China Wants to ‘Replace US as Leading Power’

Or another answer :

No shit, Sherlock.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 8:32 am

JC, with regard to my expressed number of additional Covid kilos, your memory is as faulty as JMH’s is re Cassie.

I said five kilos, not twenty-five! Five. That’s terrible enough, but not enough to call for an extension to my aircraft seatbelt. Should I suspect you are being a naughty fellow and having me on?

I don’t have any wrinkles, anywhere, and sometimes I think that’s due to a little more weight. Ably assisted by extra oestrogen, which Ed Case no doubt thinks a big no-no, upbraiding me as he does on the dead thread for even extra Vitamin D because it’s a dreadful unnatural hormone; but I take it he’s a male and what would he know?

Case closed. 🙂

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 10, 2023 8:33 am

Two Oz Media comment section items say the Voice is not doing well:

Preachy stars including Cate Blanchett hurt voice ‘yes’ campaign

The “yes” campaign for the voice to parliament referendum has in recent days reportedly issued a “don’t help us” directive to supportive celebrities – going back on a previously proposed marketing pitch to rally Australians closer to the date of the vote.

The reported thinking behind this unexpected about-face by the yes camp is that Australians perversely don’t like being preached to by opinionated media personalities on big issues. Instead, the yes campaign will now showcase everyday Indigenous Australians backing the Voice.

On the face of it, the yes campaign’s call to eschew celebrity endorsements appears a wise one.

Hot on the heels of the change of tack from the yes campaign, newsreaders and film stars were still taking to high-profile forums to plead with voters to back the voice. And their messages were remarkably similar: that a “no” vote could be damaging for Australia.

The first sign that celebrity advocates for the voice wouldn’t be silenced – apparently oblivious to the changed thinking of the yes camp – came on Monday night on the ABC’s 7.30, when global Aussie film star Cate Blanchett made a passionate plea to undecided voters, saying it would be a “sad moment if we missed this opportunity”.

“It does make me sad that there’s a lot of fear being generated about a really positive moment for us as a nation,” the multiple Oscar winner said.

Blanchett compared the significance of the moment to when women achieved universal suffrage: “There is a certain voice that is never really in a nonpartisan way, in an eternal way, represented at that table: and that’s an Indigenous voice. And it is time we evolved to include all Australians.”

Blanchett wasn’t the only high-profile figure to emerge in the media last week. On Wednesday, Brooke Boney, the Indigenous newsreader for Nine’s Today show, moved well beyond her regular stomping ground of breakfast TV to lay out to prospective no voters the gravity of opposing the voice.

Early on in an opinion piece she posted to the Nine website, Boney claimed that “as a journalist, I’ve kept my thoughts private” on the referendum. But her views weren’t hard to decipher.

The Today show newsreader laid out a scenario in which the no case would succeed, and variously described the ramifications as “quite damaging” and “profound”.

“It’s OK if people want to vote no but I’d hope those people have a plan for what to do to improve the situation if the referendum fails and not just be content to maintain the status quo,” Boney wrote. “We also need to be realistic about how profound the impact of a ‘no’ result would be on our country.”

Boney also referred to the 1967 referendum – which saw a yes vote of more than 90 per cent in favour of addressing inequalities in the constitution for Indigenous people – as an illustration of a stark contrast in scenarios facing voters in this year’s vote.

“I’ve often reflected on how joyous it would have felt in 1967 after the successful vote for my grandparents to be able to walk down the street and know that their fellow Australians supported them by such an overwhelming majority,” Boney writes.

“If the opposite were to occur and we had to walk down the street the next day, we don’t have the luxury of seeing people’s thoughts that might be ‘no, but … I’d like to see this happen or that happen’. All we would see is no and that would be quite damaging.”

‘Odd’: Yes 23 caravan turns up at Lord’s test

The tentacles of the Yes 23 campaign have spread 17,000km – all the way to London and the Marylebone Cricket Club’s “puce-faced” members, as Diary’s colleague Gideon Haigh so memorably described them.

Diary’s UK spies have reported that Yes 23 campaign advocates were up and about near, of all places, the members’ entrance of Lord’s for the entire five days of the second Ashes test.

It appeared a quirky place for Yes 23 to set up with sandwich board billboards, volunteers wearing the campaign’s branded regalia, and attempts to hand out flyers to bewildered-looking MCC members sporting egg and bacon ties and blazers.

As one passionate supporter of the Australian cricket team told your diarist: “It was an odd place to be handing out flyers for the yes case, away from the hoi polloi at Lord’s. Was that their target market, or were they hoping to capture Aussie expats?”

Or indeed, could they have been targeting the huge Merv ­Hughes-led Australian Sports Tours contingent at the ground – resplendent in a sea of identical green and gold uniforms – who attended all five days of the Lord’s test.

One of Diary’s operatives did have the presence of mind to take one of the flyers, which read in block letters: “IT’S TIME TO RECOGNISE ABORIGINAL AND TORRES STRAIT ISLANDER PEOPLES IN THE CONSTITUTION THROUGH A VOICE.”

Anecdotal evidence suggests there wasn’t a huge take-up rate on the flyers; most who were approached politely rejected them.

Others offered flyers were more blunt. One Diary spy noted that some Aussie fans gave rather colourful feedback to the Yes 23 campaigners about mixing sport and politics – which in polite terms could be described as telling them to head somewhere else.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 8:35 am

Lol Liz

I was just kidding, with an expectation I’d get the typical outraged response. Thanks for not letting me down. 🙂

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 8:40 am

You know how there won’t be any energy with renewballs when the sun won’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow. Well here’s another problem.

David Leyonhjelm Retweeted
Patrick Moore
@EcoSenseNow
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9h
Nearly every solar panel in this solar farm in Nebraska was destroyed in a hailstorm. Nearly all will all be taken to a landfill as it is not economical to recycle the metals and minerals used to produce them. So much for “renewable energy”.

https://twitter.com/EcoSenseNow/status/1678027085493997568

Crossie
Crossie
July 10, 2023 8:43 am

Petros
Jul 10, 2023 5:51 AM
So were the surrounds of the coliseum really overgrown like that? Artistic license?

I thought the coliseum is and always was in the middle of Rome so the vegetation seemed odd to me as well.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 10, 2023 8:45 am

You just can’t beat the person who never gives up.

– Babe Ruth

This of course does not apply to Head Case or Montypox Virus.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 10, 2023 8:46 am

Crimean Bridge Attack Confession Shows Zelensky, US No Longer ‘Pretending to Be Good Guys’

The October 8, 2022 attack on the Crimean Bridge was a ‘crossing the Rubicon’ moment in the Ukrainian crisis, freeing Moscow’s hands to lift self-imposed restrictions on precision missile strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure.

Why did Kiev decide to admit responsibility now? Observers queried by Sputnik have a few ideas.
Ukrainian deputy defense minister Hanna Maliar admitted Saturday that Ukraine was responsible for last year’s attack on the Crimean Bridge.

“273 days ago we delivered our first strike against the Crimean Bridge in order to disrupt Russia’s logistics,”

Maliar wrote in a Telegram post dedicated to Kiev’s “accomplishments” over the course of the conflict as it hit the 500-day mark.

Her statement contradicts months of denials by officials in Kiev that Ukraine had anything to do with the terrorist incident.

“We definitely did not order that, as far as I know,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said in an interview with Western media in October after Russia began a series of missile strikes on Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

Kiev and its allies in the West alternated between blaming feuding Russian internal actors and claiming that Moscow bombed its own bridge in a false flag attack, but Maliar’s confession serves to confirm what Russia has been saying all along: that the terrorist incident was ordered, concocted and carried out by Ukraine’s security services.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova responded to Saturday’s admission of guilt with two words, calling the Ukrainian government a “terrorist regime.”

Timing No Accident

“The timing of the deputy defense minister’s admission is most likely not an accident,”

Dr. Joe Siracusa, a US politics expert and dean of Global Futures at Curtin University in Australia, told Sputnik, pointing out that the confession comes just days ahead of next week’s NATO summit in Vilnius.

“Rather it is designed to put maximum pressure on NATO members in the run up to the Vilnius Summit. Running out of ammunition, Ukraine is compelled to leverage whatever it can on sympathetic NATO members before the summit,” Siracusa said.

“What’s next? I wouldn’t be surprised if Kiev [took] credit for blowing [up[ the Nord Stream pipelines.”

Confession is Good for the Soul?

Suggesting that Kiev’s Western benefactors have already achieved the goal of turning Ukraine into a foreign banker and corporation-controlled vassal whose only purpose is to “weaken Russia,”

Kasonta argued that officials in President Zelensky’s administration simply don’t “care anymore about pretending that they are the good guys.”

“So the mask fell off and everyone around the world [can] see this conflict for what it is,” he said.

Latest in a String of Important Admissions

Saturday’s statement by Maliar is important, but certainly not the first time that Ukrainian officials have admitted to their role in escalating the conflict.

In January, Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov

acknowledged that the Ukrainian crisis is really a Russia-NATO proxy war, and that “today” Kiev is “carrying out NATO’s mission,” shedding its soldiers’ lives, and serving as a “shield…defending the entire civilized world, the entire West,” from Russia.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 10, 2023 8:48 am

https://captain-daves.com/2017/08/24/flying-the-airbus-a380-takeoff/

This screenshot shows the other engine information. N2 and N3 are internal spinning components of the engine, FF is the fuel flow in kg per hour. The oil quantity is measured in quarts. The PSI is the oil pressure, then there are three vibration indicators for the three spinning sections, and finally an engine nacelle temperature dial. In many ways the NHP is the harder working of the two pilots at this stage as they are monitoring all these parameters while also making sure the HP is tracking the centreline properly, in addition looking at the flight instruments to make sure all the airspeed indications are accelerating correctly and all giving the same speed. The HP is just grinning from ear to ear as they control 500 tonnes of A380 as it accelerates rapidly down the runway!

At 100 knots airspeed, the NHP announces “one hundred knots”. The HP looks down and checks their airspeed indicator, makes sure it also reads 100 knots, and states “Checked”. We use 100 knots as a speed below which we would be ‘stop minded’ if we have a problem, and above which is it probably better to continue the takeoff and deal with a problem in the air due to the problems associated with stopping from high speed. So, from this point on, unless we have a major problem, we are not going to stop. Once we reach V1 an automated voice will announce “V1”. From this point on, no matter what problems arise, we are going flying as there is insufficient runway left to stop. In our case we still have 16 knots left to accelerate before the NHP announces “Rotate” at Vr. Now the HP gently pulls straight back on the sidestick, watching for the horizon to drop out of view at a constant rate, and briefly glancing at the flight instruments to ensure all is well. We want to rotate the aircraft at around 3 degrees per second, initially aiming at a climb-out attitude of around 12.5 degrees. The initial rotation takes a little time to establish, but once the nose has started to lift the pitch rate remains fairly constant for a given sidestick input.

We are now flying! (The grin just got even wider!). The NHP announces “Positive Climb” to which the HP announces “Gear Up”. The NHP moves the gear lever then all 20 mains wheels and 2 nosewheels are lifted up, landing gear doors close, and there is a little ‘squeak’ from the nosegear area as everything stops moving, which never fails to make me smile! It is almost as though it is saying, very quickly and excitedly, “Up!”

Once all the wheels are packaged away there is a very noticeable drop in noise level. It is amazingly quiet in the cockpit.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 10, 2023 8:48 am

The subject of UBI comes up occasionally. If the world is to become cashless, then paying an income seems silly. Also, there is no guarantee that the income will be used for its (presumably) intended purpose, to provide a basic but adequate lifestyle.

A better option might be to provide the basic option, but in kind, not cash. It could also include some of those desiderata sometimes proclaimed by our self-selected “betters”.

So, what might be offered?

For a person living alone, a studio apartment in a tower block seems adequate for the purpose. Limit electricity for cooking, lighting and heating to a basic level, maybe 5 kilowatt hours a day? Provide enough food to maintain a healthy weight, delivered in the form of a Meals on Wheels type of service (that would also reduce the need for electricity). A fixed internet connection, with an allowance of a couple of gigabytes per day should provide information and entertainment.

And the whole package might be sufficiently unappealing to discourage excessive take-up.

Indolent
Indolent
July 10, 2023 8:49 am

Nothing earth shattering but might be of interest.

Maps That Show How The World Really Is

Crossie
Crossie
July 10, 2023 8:50 am

Mr Albanese will kick off his week of international travel in Berlin by signing a $1bn defence export contract with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

The deal will see Australia supply more than 100 Boxer heavy weapon carrier vehicles to Germany from 2025, supporting 1000 jobs in Queensland.

At least we will get paid for these that will probably end up in Ukraine anyway as Germany’s contribution to the war.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 10, 2023 8:52 am

I see that a few of the allies are angry that Biden has approved the sending of cluster munitions to Ukraine.
Seems terribly clever to escalate the conflict with weapons that many of the supporting nations have signed treaties to ban.
Yet to hear from “all the way Albo” on cluster bombs. We could follow up the Bushmasters with a supply of prosthetic limbs for the Ukrainian kiddies.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 8:54 am

Tim Blair is always a delight to read, thanks for the above, Beertruk. Apps so you can charge your EV? Just another reason to count me out.

I make a point of standing firm to my age these days and telling all providers of anything that I don’t do apps. I can’t really see the point of them, I find URL’s are my limit, and work fine on my laptop. I know about apps but I am a non-adopter. I suppose apps might be for ease of use on phones. I mostly use my phone for phone calls (a statement that would have landed me in the loony bin forty years ago).

Have to pick up a de facto daughter-in-law from hospital op this morning. Should no doubt get dressed for that, although in a dressing gown as at present I probably wouldn’t be too out of place. I am taking her some of the left-over spiced chicken I made for the Cats the other day and froze. Please note the capital C. This is not cat meat.

Indolent
Indolent
July 10, 2023 8:57 am

And they’re saying this with a straight face. For years, if you wanted funding for any sort of research you had to somehow involve “climate”. This is the result. If any of them really believe it they’re not a doctor I’d want anywhere near me.

Experts speculate climate change is increasing kidney stone cases among young children: report

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 10, 2023 9:00 am

“I’ve often reflected on how joyous it would have felt in 1967 after the successful vote for my grandparents to be able to walk down the street and know that their fellow Australians supported them by such an overwhelming majority,” Boney writes.

And look where we are now. Support from other Australians is helpful psychologically, but the reality is that aborigines have to learn to help themselves. More that 50 years after that moment, while many have succeeded (to the extent that they are essentially invisible), others have divided into two groups.

The most obvious are the bleaters wanting ever more recognition and assistance, despite generally being both well off and successful. The others are the unformed masses that occupy outback “communities” and urban islands of misery and learned helplessness. The bleaters should provide the assistance that the latter group needs, showing genuine leadership, rather than perpetually complaining and demanding that others do what they will not.

So get to it, Boney, S[t]an, Noel, Pat and Mick D, Linda and all the others.

Gilas
Gilas
July 10, 2023 9:01 am

Keeping up with the OT from the Sydney International Piano Competition at the Con.. Quite intense, long and tiring, more so than previous editions.
Will report tomorrow, during a much needed pause-day between stages.

BTW, what has happened to the blog?
It now has that “Metro” look that Windows introduced to Win10, uglyfying the interface from Win XP and Win7.
Being at the Comp, checking the blog is rather infrequent, and now a less user-friendly experience.
Using Android Firefox, more scrolling and page look-back is required, depending on whether one is looking at an old, partially read page, or a new one.
As each page has fewer (100?) posts, this becomes a frequent issue.
Page numbers are a welcome addition, but are only seen at the end of each page.. why not have them at the top of the page as well?

This is not a criticism of Dover, he can only work within the limitations and “updated” features imposed by the WordPress script-kiddies.
If the new changes make its administration easier, so be it.

Enough whingeing.. back to the Comp again today.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 10, 2023 9:02 am

On to Londonderry, or if you’re really Irish, just Derry.

Back in the good old days, it was Free Derry, down Bogside way.
Or Derry City elsewhere, if you forgot to note whether the kerb stones
were painted green or red white and blue.

Indolent
Indolent
July 10, 2023 9:02 am
rosie
rosie
July 10, 2023 9:02 am

And it could be a male or female chin these days.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2023 9:05 am

All we would see is no and that would be quite damaging.”

Go to Bunnings, buy some timber, builds a bridge and get over it.

Indolent
Indolent
July 10, 2023 9:05 am
Roger
Roger
July 10, 2023 9:07 am

Cate Blanchette will be “sad” if the Voice referendum fails.

You know what to do, everybody.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 9:09 am

The other five octogenarians in my dance class run rings around me re their phones. They all done special courses for seniors on these things and can cut, copy, paste, insert and group send to everyone in a few quick gnarled-fingers worth of flicking the glass.

My little ungnarled fingers (oestrogen again) can barely even answer the damned thing with that pull-across swipe it requires. I also have to go thru an app to access my messages. Can you change it for me? I plead to Hairy.

You’re lazy, Lizzie, not stupid, says Hairy in despair.

But this is the sort of phone I still remember using.
Looks a bit like I did then too. 🙂

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 10, 2023 9:09 am

Indolent
Jul 10, 2023 8:49 AM
Nothing earth shattering but might be of interest.

Maps That Show How The World Really Is

Thanks Indolent, Great Site – Lots of Interesting Information – have posted on Family Facebook for Grandkids

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2023 9:15 am

the Business Council of Australia (BCA)…called for the government to outline a trajectory of emissions reductions by announcing targets for 2035, 2040 and 2045.

The BCA also called for “decarbonisation pathways” for all sectors of the economy.

5 Year Plans on the march to Year Zero!

It’s a good thing most Australians know no history or they’d be tossing in their beds at night over more than interest rates.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 9:15 am

I dyed my hair almost black for one stage in my life.

Then I recall using phones that looked like this.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2023 9:19 am

On the “sound of freedom” movie

1st off, looks like a fairly ordinary movie to me, would be lucky to get a cinema release in most normal years.
2nd: Lefties still think they are immune to the Streisand effect. Its had more publicity from its detractors than money could buy.
3rd: They are massively, completely bent out of shape over this film, which, on the face of it, is actually about a good thing.

Now for my red string/corkboard moment.
Anti pedo
Pro good guys
Hollywood predators
Child sniffing President
Epstein
Obvious alphabet agency connections/protections.
Stopping kids being sexually exploited vs genital mutilation is fabulous.
etc etc…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 9:19 am

5 Year Plans on the march to Year Zero!

It’s a good thing most Australians know no history or they’d be tossing in their beds at night over more than interest rates.

Indeed. We will have to go through a lot of this stuff before sense returns to science.

Some of us here may not live long enough for that glorious time, more’s the pity.

Buckle up and try to protect your family from the worst of it.
Soviet days are upon us.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 9:28 am

I’ve passed that map on too, Indolent. Thanks for it.

It will interest those, like Hairy and my sons, who do those country-matching games.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 9:29 am

It’s also good for understanding why Trump has to fight so hard to win against the woke, who concentrate massively in cities.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 10, 2023 9:32 am

As Greens double down on their politically suicidal climate agenda, the German political establishment begins to crack

The only hope for political victory against the enormously powerful governments of Western countries is a divided elite.

EUGYPPIUS
8 JUL 2023

Yesterday, I described how the German political and media establishment are closing ranks against the vaccine-injured.

While the sheer pervasiveness of negative reactions to the jabs have made it impossible to keep stories of adverse events out of the press, the system has fielded a coordinated response to protect itself and silence its critics. I am pessimistic that it can be overcome.

But, there has been a lot of pessimism on the plague chronicle lately, so I want to look now at a more hopeful case, which suggests what real victory over the elite political juggernaut might look like.

It involves proposed changes to the Building Energy Act, or the Gebäudeenergiegesetz (GEG), championed by our Green Minister of Economic Affairs Robert Habeck. If approved by the Bundestag, the changes will force Germans to abandon home heating systems based on fossil fuels in favour of more environmentally-friendly alternatives, particularly heat pumps.

Because the new law will require ruinous renovations in many older buildings, it represents a direct assault on the wealth of the aging German middle class, who are core supporters of the major parties.

A more politically suicidal law is hardly imaginable.

The outcry has already forced Habeck first to sacrifice his powerful state secretary Patrick Graichen, and then to totally rewrite the GEG in an attempt to mollify critics. The changes are complicated, but the upshot is that many of the worst ordinances will not take effect for some years.

Few are satisfied. A recent survey shows that 74% of Germans believe “there are too many open questions” and that the legislation should be substantially delayed if not shelved. Majorities in all parties are opposed; even 51% of Green voters don’t want the GEG to pass right now.

A substantial part of the establishment media has accordingly become openly critical of the Greens, which is very rare and remarkable for mainstream political discourse here. Der Spiegel ran an important investigative piece on the “eco-network” which now “dominates German climate policy,” recycling many points first raised in the climate-critical alternative blogosphere. And just yesterday, state media talkshow host Markus Lanz subjected Habeck to an extended grilling about the GEG and its many controversies, suggesting at one point that his proposals were “too radical.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2023 9:34 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

Jul 10, 2023 8:32 AM

JC, with regard to my expressed number of additional Covid kilos, your memory is as faulty as JMH’s is re Cassie.

I said five kilos, not twenty-five!

OK.
We’ll put this through the lady weight calculator.
Let’s see … x 9/5 … add back 1/2 base x height … carry the 1 …
True weight gain calculated at 11.8 kgs, with a standard deviation of 220 grams.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 9:35 am

You’ve gotta admire that very angry father, Indolent, in your link above.

More men should speak up as he does. There is no need to interrogate kids as to their ‘gender’. You can tell if you have a gender-bender on your hands in any socio-medical interview situation. Deal with it then, not when normal people bring their normal kids in.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 10, 2023 9:37 am

What’s going on at the ABC? A report this morning points out that Victorians are paying the highest land tax in the country. I thought displeasing Chairman Dan was a capital offence in the Southbank worker Soviet.

They have even reported on a scandal engulfing the BBC about a pervert pedo presenter:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-10/bbc-suspends-presenter-over-alleged-teenager-photos-scandal/102581456

But they remain schtum on their own Jon Stephens.

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2023 9:39 am

A more politically suicidal law [the Building Energy Act, or the Gebäudeenergiegesetz (GEG), championed by our Green Minister of Economic Affairs Robert Habeck] is hardly imaginable.

Mmm…democracy may have to be suspended.

Temporarily, of course.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 9:42 am

Outright refusal to go along with this shit, as he correctly calls it, is what we need to do more, in all sorts of contexts. If anyone asked that question of any of my grandkids whom I might take to school or the doctor etc. I would have no hesitation in telling them off about it. Hairy quakes when I am ‘on the warpath’.

I did it marginally when the psychologist I am organising for my son sent a form obviously written during Covid days, saying that masks should be worn and RAT test taken beforehand. Seems they were still complying with it all. I objected strongly, saying I wasn’t paying good money to have someone hinder a diagnosis when facial expression might be crucial to making it. Wearing a mask was a dealbreaker for my credit card, I said. So they made an exception for him.

Maybe if more people objected they would make an exception for everyone.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 10, 2023 9:42 am

Andrew Bolt:

No, this column isn’t about the Voice. It’s instead about Australians being told to just listen to their betters.

Listen to your bosses, cried Prime Minister Anthony Albanese in an extraordinary outburst last week.

Listen even to people who’ve grabbed control of your sports organisations and now play politics without asking the opinions of the people they’re meant to serve.

So, no, this isn’t really about the Voice, a kind of Aboriginal-only advisory parliament Albanese wants put in our Constitution.

It’s about who should really run this country.

Last Thursday, Albanese, bizarrely for a Labor prime minister, again tried to intimidate Australians into obeying our elites.

He rattled through a long list of corporate supporters, including Big Sport: “Every single sporting code, AFL, National Rugby League, Football Australia, Cricket Australia, Tennis Australia, the Olympics committee, have all combined to say Yes.”

So had the big bosses, he insisted: “The Business Council of Australia, the Australian Industry Group, the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, individual businesses all saying yes.

“Faith groups, the Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox Church, Muslim groups, Hindu groups, Jewish organisations, all combining to say yes to the Voice.”

Albanese could have gone on and added the ABC, many universities, the Australian Council of Trade Unions, showbiz stars such as Cate Blanchett and professional organisations including the Australian Medical Association.

But rather than ram the elites’ opinions down our throats, Albanese should have asked himself an obvious question.

Why, when corporate Australia – Big Government, Big Unions, Big Business and even Big Academia – shouts Yes to the Voice, do polls show most Australians saying No?

Answer: Our elites don’t represent most Australians, or want to.

What’s more, most Australians, previously for the Voice, now distrust something pushed so hard by these corporates and celebrities.

In fact, many seem offended, even threatened, by the elites’ arrogance.

So this Voice referendum will now also be a vote on who really runs the country, and many Australians seem inclined to put our elites safely back in their boxes.

eric hinton
eric hinton
July 10, 2023 9:43 am

Crossie
Jul 10, 2023 8:43 AM
Petros
Jul 10, 2023 5:51 AM
So were the surrounds of the coliseum really overgrown like that? Artistic license?

I thought the coliseum is and always was in the middle of Rome so the vegetation seemed odd to me as well.

Chris Bowen Tce. New Farm farmers. So to speak.

Crossie
Crossie
July 10, 2023 9:46 am

Indolent
Jul 10, 2023 9:02 AM
The Great Kowtow: Janet Yellen bows to China

All current American officials are lamentably unimpressive.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 10, 2023 9:50 am

Deranged Gunman On Scooter ‘Randomly’ Shoots People In NYC

A deranged 25-year-old Hispanic male indiscriminately shot four people, killing one, while casually motoring around New York City on a scooter. Police say the suspect was experiencing a mental health crisis.

Police sources told NBC News that the suspect “appears to suffer from emotional or mental issues.” NYPD Assistant Chief Joseph Kenny noted that the suspect was a “male Hispanic.”

From the Comments

that’s a pretty big hispanic afro if you ask me.
– …….maybe they thought he was Hispanic because he was wearing a sombrero that blew off.
– If Eric Adams had a son
– Looks like the black guy from “The Office”.
– Stop being so wayciss!!! He cudda been Obammys son!!!!

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2023 9:59 am

Last Thursday, Albanese, bizarrely for a Labor prime minister, again tried to intimidate Australians into obeying our elites.

The fact is that Albanese is more beholden to the Establishment than Menzies ever was.

Up the workers!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2023 10:02 am

Why, when corporate Australia – Big Government, Big Unions, Big Business and even Big Academia – shouts Yes to the Voice, do polls show most Australians saying No?

Sky has a report today with a breakdown by age. It’s the gullible young who are the main Yes voters.

Majority of young Australians likely to support Voice (9 Jul)

A majority of young Australians are likely to support the upcoming Voice referendum – according to a new poll by the Australia Institute.

Not altogether surprising since the kids have been indoctrinated with endless repetition of Rabbitproof Fence and Dark Emu. But punters older than forty has wised up.

The Ponds Institute finds an overall 52% yes vote, which ain’t surprising either. Got to massage the numbers to get that ole bandwagon arolling.

vr
vr
July 10, 2023 10:04 am

I got into medical school by pretending to be black: We must enforce Supremes’ ruling

That’s Mindy Kaling’s brother.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 10:05 am

So, no, this isn’t really about the Voice, a kind of Aboriginal-only advisory parliament Albanese wants put in our Constitution.
It’s about who should really run this country.

Blot is a very persuasive opinion columnist in print. Unfortunately, he’s now the No. 2 opinion columnist at the Herald Sun behind Rita Panahi because he no longer gives print his priority.

However, his enormous, overbearing ego makes him a hopeless TV journalist/interviewer, constantly talking over his guests in his race to crown his own opinions as supreme.

Bruce
Bruce
July 10, 2023 10:05 am
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 10, 2023 10:07 am

The Today show newsreader laid out a scenario in which the no case would succeed, and variously described the ramifications as “quite damaging” and “profound”.

Wouldn’t a ‘No’ decision mean no change? It would be where we are now, not some new hellscape.

What she might be thinking is that people will realise that they have been scammed already, right up to the point where the activists felt they demand a special new chamber and place in the nation and constitution. Ordinary people might reflect on all the special gifts and preferments bestowed upon a pale-skinned clique in the cities in the name of people living a dystopian life in the outback who seem never to benefit from anything.

As for harking back to the 1967 referendum and wondering what is different now – well…nothing. Back then it was about equality, and voting ‘No’ now is also about equality.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2023 10:10 am

Top Ender at 8:33.
Some are scratching their heads as to why Cate Blanchett popped up on 7:30 for a Scold-Fest just two days after the Yes campaign declared it’s cause a “celebrity free zone”.
Well, firstly, when Cate hears “celebrity” she thinks of Kardashians, Taylor Swift and gameshow hosts. She doesn’t regard herself as a celebrity, just an “important figure in the arts”, a working actoring wymminses with immense insights, powerful communication skills and gravity shifting super-powers. So it is her duty to help out by lecturing her working grrrl colleagues.
Secondly there is branding. Now into her 50’s and knowing that whatever Dutch beauty contest looks she once had are fading fast, she needs some woke-cred to shore up her career. I mean, how many roles playing lesbian orchestra conductors can she expect to steal from real lesbians in the future. Simply looking like an ageing drag queen just won’t cut it.

Crossie
Crossie
July 10, 2023 10:11 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Jul 10, 2023 10:02 AM
Why, when corporate Australia – Big Government, Big Unions, Big Business and even Big Academia – shouts Yes to the Voice, do polls show most Australians saying No?

I have an idea why that may be the case, we have seen this same coalition urging us to comply with the covid lockdowns so we don’t think they can be trusted.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2023 10:12 am

Not altogether surprising since the kids have been indoctrinated with endless repetition of Rabbitproof Fence

Cite you the Wheatbelt schools , who showed the kids – some of who had families farming on the Rabbitproof Fence – that film, so many times, they could not have cared less….

cohenite
July 10, 2023 10:13 am

OldOzzie
Jul 10, 2023 9:50 AM
Deranged Gunman On Scooter ‘Randomly’ Shoots People In NYC

A deranged 25-year-old Hispanic male indiscriminately shot four people, killing one, while casually motoring around New York City on a scooter. Police say the suspect was experiencing a mental health crisis.

Black as the ace of spades.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 10, 2023 10:17 am

https://nypost.com/2023/07/09/elderly-father-of-six-was-heading-to-mosque-to-pray-when-scooter-shooter-killed-him-son-says/

Definitely NOT Hispanic

From the Comments

– I imagine Mr. Bragg is calculating how to deem the shooter the victim of structural racism and cut him a deal for community service.

– AOC and the other Democrat politicians and their voters will be relieved that the shooter was not harmed by police this incident.

– Don’t worry his cousin braggs & adams will have him out of jail by the end of the week.. There only concern is protecting the guilty because there 1 of the same

– See, yet another white supremacist that Democrats warned us about.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 10:20 am

This sheila went completely apeshit on a plane. They finally figured who it was that wasn’t a real person

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1677347127549370369/mediaviewer

WolfmanOz
WolfmanOz
July 10, 2023 10:23 am

Tom
Jul 10, 2023 10:05 AM
So, no, this isn’t really about the Voice, a kind of Aboriginal-only advisory parliament Albanese wants put in our Constitution.
It’s about who should really run this country.

Blot is a very persuasive opinion columnist in print. Unfortunately, he’s now the No. 2 opinion columnist at the Herald Sun behind Rita Panahi because he no longer gives print his priority.

However, his enormous, overbearing ego makes him a hopeless TV journalist/interviewer, constantly talking over his guests in his race to crown his own opinions as supreme.

Spot on Tom.

Bolt is unwatchable on TV, I gave up on him a few years ago.

However, he still writes well with passion and well reasoned arguments.

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2023 10:25 am

As for harking back to the 1967 referendum and wondering what is different now – well…nothing. Back then it was about equality…

Call me a cynic, but while it was pitched to Australians as being about equality, in fact it was about expanding Commonwealth powers at the expense of the states.

The advertisements of the time notwithstanding, the 1967 referendum didn’t grant one right to aboriginals that they didn’t already possess. It did, however, further empower the Communist activists who were key to the success of the campaign (e.g. Faith Bandler) to further their agenda on the back of indigenous people, as also with Eddie Mabo (member of the CPA, Townsville branch) decades later.

sfw
sfw
July 10, 2023 10:29 am

Is there any government ‘5 year plan’ anywhere in the world, that hasn’t ended badly?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 10, 2023 10:30 am

The opening segment in this clip back features a graph worthy to be on a t-shirt. It would be a huge seller.

Testicular injuries in women’s sports

Delusional Woman DESTROYED By Random Dude In The Street – WOKE CLOWN WORLD

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2023 10:34 am

Lithuania is where it’s at.

Biden lands in London where he’ll meet King Charles after skipping his coronation, then jet to Lithuania for NATO summit amid squabbling cluster bombs and admitting new members (9 Jul)

Meanwhile here’s a helpful warning to Albo not to stand too close to Joe when they do the obligatory photos.

Camilla might think twice before standing near Biden tomorrow…he farted loudly last time (9 Jul)

Charles’s wife Queen Camilla will of course meet the President again this week. Perhaps this time she will think twice before standing downwind from the 80-year-old leader of the free world.

When the two last met at a reception at COP26 in Glasgow in 2021 he apparently broke wind in front of her, which left her in stitches. It was reportedly so “long and loud” it was impossible to ignore.

And let’s very diplomatically forget what he allegedly did when he met Pope Francis.

Bruce
Bruce
July 10, 2023 10:36 am

“5 Year Plans on the march to Year Zero!”

I remember the last one of those “Year Zero” capers.

Cambodia, 1975.

That ended about as well as one expects from such things.

Arky
July 10, 2023 10:36 am

Model A Ford update:
Rebuilding the thing twice has been a blessing in disguise.
Not just because it gave me a chance to grace the bodywork with layers of new, luscious red Dulon.
Forced to strip her right back to a body off the chassis restoration again I have been able to do some things better than the first time around, with the confidence that in the end everything will fit together in a functioning machine. Whereas the first time around I didn’t really know how it would all turn out, never having worked on anything this old before.
I fabricated new floor pans this week, and have corrected some slight alignment issues with one of the doors, which had been a “close enough is good enough” in the original build while I was still figuring it all out.
Plus the girl is now old enough to act as apprentice during school holidays.
And while I wouldn’t want to go through the whole insurance and rebuilding thing again, the end result has been a much better garage with all new tooling, none of which were made in an authoritarian communist country.
It goes to show that whatever setbacks you have, there is almost always something better or at least worthwhile waiting around the corner.
One door closes, another always opens.
The tow truck drive who drove the car back home earlier in the year was quite a character. I was a bit worried about being stuck in a vehicle for a couple of hours with a stranger, that the conversation would run dry pretty quickly, but we nattered away like old woman the whole way.
Bloke has a couple of vintage Falcons in his garage. I asked him what the tow truck business was like and if it was tough dealing with people who might be having the worst of days after a car smash. Turns out the ordinary, working people after a wreck were the easy bit, good to deal with. No the problem individuals was the rich pricks who wanted their Ferraris or Lambos taken to events or back. These were the characters who were miserable pricks, complainers and likely to try to diddle you out of the fee.
Interesting that those with the most are the most likely to be miserable gits and make everyone around them miserable too.

Jorge
Jorge
July 10, 2023 10:37 am

Couldn’t help noticing the other day that Gary Foley is now Professor Gary.

Hadn’t heard anything of him for a long time I guess because he was locked away in the stacks, hitting the books.

Professor Marcia, Professor Bruce, Professor Gary, Prof Mick, Prof Larissa, Prof Pearl, Prof David ….

Unchallengeable careerists every one. Why not just give every indig a chair at Melbourne ?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2023 10:37 am

Danikka Calyon: Elders at the centre of our kinship, Aboriginal culture and community
Danikka CalyonThe West Australian
Mon, 10 July 2023 7:07AM

I am a young Noongar woman from Perth. My mother’s family are from the Koreng-Minang nations, which are in the Gnowangerup to Albany region. My father’s family are from Pinjareb-Whadjuk nations, which are in the Pinjarra to Perth region. Although I identify as coming from these nations, I recognise that I have family all throughout the Noongar nations.

Understanding where we come from and where our family is from is important in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture as it connects us to country and the ancestors, song lines and stories from that region. It is a major key in developing our cultural identity.

Family, kinship, and community are at the heart of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture. Together, they form an important part of our cultural identity. At the centre of it all are our elders.

Elders have worked hard to continue paving the way for our younger generations. They provide guidance and support to our people. Building our children into the next strong leaders that will carry our culture and strengthen our cultural identity, as we navigate through the two worlds every day; one world being our Aboriginal culture and the other being Western culture.

In my family we often sit and yarn with our elders because they have so much knowledge and wisdom to share. My aunties often say that our elders are like libraries filled with so much knowledge and teachings. Unfortunately, when an elder passes, the library closes and this knowledge can be lost.

I often yarn with my nanas about culture and our family. The joy and happiness that surrounds them when I ask about their stories or Dreamtime stories create such a powerful atmosphere to be in. It’s healing. It’s strong. It’s pure.

Recently I had the privilege to visit a sacred site in the Perth area. It is the country of my great-great-great-grandmothers. This site was almost lost and still is at risk of being lost, as there are no recent stories or documentation about this place after the 1800s.

As I walked through this country with my moort (family) I could feel the presence of my ancestors. They are still here in spirit and were guiding us to significant sites so that we could document them and preserve them. They were making sure we were safe along the way. When I was tired, I could feel them giving me the strength to carry on and embrace the moment we were in.

At one point we got lost and were struggling to find our way back, but the ancestors sent a sign — the eagle. This eagle is a well-known spirit animal to our family and often likes to visit us. The eagle circled in the sky, leading us back to the path where our cars were parked. The path it led us on was smooth and clear so some of my elders had a much better walk.

It was such a special moment for me as I got to experience it with my elders both past and present.

Our elders are important, and we need to make the time to sit with them and yarn with them, so that one day when we are elders, we can do the same thing with our future generations, strengthening our culture and continuing the connection to Boodjar.

Danikka Calyon is a Noongar woman from Perth and youth leader.

We are supposed to take all this seriously?

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 10, 2023 10:37 am

I mean, how many roles playing lesbian orchestra conductors can she expect to steal from real lesbians in the future. Simply looking like an ageing drag queen just won’t cut it.

Ouch! Saucer of milk, table 4 please!

Nonetheless, harsh but fair.

Alamak!
July 10, 2023 10:39 am

OldOzzie> great article on how the german renewable mess is causing some challenges to their elites.

For anyone interested in the german schema, where is going and how it looks for us this is a great article … if the whole german establishment and tech capacity can’t make it work, perhaps nobody can …

https://www.propublica.org/article/what-germanys-effort-to-leave-coal-behind-can-teach-the-us

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 10, 2023 10:48 am

For anyone interested in the german schema, where is going and how it looks for us this is a great article … if the whole german establishment and tech capacity can’t make it work, perhaps nobody can …

https://www.propublica.org/article/what-germanys-effort-to-leave-coal-behind-can-teach-the-us

Tennis Elbow is over in Europe to tell/show those Germans where they are going wrong. He has Blackout Bowen’s Powerpoint Presentation to show them how Australia (the Cleva Country) is doing it right now.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 10:49 am

No the problem individuals was the rich pricks who wanted their Ferraris or Lambos taken to events or back. These were the characters who were miserable pricks, complainers and likely to try to diddle you out of the fee.
Interesting that those with the most are the most likely to be miserable gits and make everyone around them miserable too.

Of course they are. Expensive cars are never driven, they’re towed everywhere because “rich pricks” hate driving their expensive cars. It’s all you see on load trucks. After all, they didn’t buy them to enjoy the drive. They bought them to be towed everywhere, for free after diddling the truckie. LOL.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 10, 2023 10:50 am

Justice without force is powerless; force without justice is tyrannical.

– Blaise Pascal

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2023 11:05 am

Government organs and “expert thinkers”

You throwing away spoiled food is costing you $3000 a year“…

while:
1: Taking home pay in the 6 figures for producing such “insights.
2: Agitating for “change” of some sort
3: Ignoring the government taking anywhere between 1/3 to 1/2 of a persons income every year via taxes/charges/red tape cost pass ons, & regulation.

sfw
sfw
July 10, 2023 11:05 am

Zulu, about 15 years ago I did a stint working as a prison officer at the Dame Phyliss Frost Centre in Vic. I didn’t last long, it wasn’t for me.

Anyway they of course have more than a few women who are ‘aboriginal’, so we had to have special training to deal with them. Some old woman who called herself ‘Aunty’ spent a couple of hours telling us similar stories to the one you posted. It seems that aboriginals have special psychic powers and the birds and animals can communicate with them and tell them stuff that we whites couldn’t know. I asked if this was a hereditary power or was something that was taught to the young aboriginals. She told me not ask stupid questions.

Towards the end she repeated the lie that prior to the 67 referendum that aboriginals came under the flora and fauna act and then added that it was legal to shoot aboriginals until then. That was too much for me. I stated that they were never under that act and that it has never been legal to shoot aborigines anywhere in Australia at any time and can she show me the evidence that I was wrong. She packed up and left, later that day I was called into the bosses office and told that I had been disrespectful and that I should apologise and tell her I was wrong. I refused to do so and resigned shortly afterwards.

That was 15 years ago, it must be much worse now.

Zatara
Zatara
July 10, 2023 11:07 am

Rebelling against the robots.

Driverless Cars Hit By ‘Coning’ Incidents As San Francisco Group Rebels

Sometimes the left does the right thing, but only by coincidence.

vr
vr
July 10, 2023 11:08 am

What is the likelihood that the Andrews’ government will be seizing golf courses for hounsing? The Age is floating this test ballon.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 10, 2023 11:10 am

We’ll put this through the lady weight calculator.

Noooooo. Unfair.

Off to the Colosseum with him!

The Colosseum by the way is quite a way downhill from the centre of Rome, which the pic shows correctly in the background. In 1811 the whole of Rome was getting overgrown. Archaeology was needed to expose it again. The pic is correct.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
July 10, 2023 11:10 am

Danikka of the oldest living culture
Too many witchety grubs?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2023 11:10 am

We are supposed to take all this seriously?

Much more in line with the Auric Goldfinger model.

No Mr Bond.. I expect you to COMPLY

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 11:16 am

sfw

I’m on the side of your bosses at the time, and the reason I say this is because why would you take issue with an old woman prisoner who most likely isn’t right of mind and try to debate her on the nonsense she was bleating? What purpose would it serve to make a pedantic response like that? The boss was obviously trying to ensure calmness in the prison. What purpose is there to cause unnecessary disturbance?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2023 11:16 am

and then added that it was legal to shoot aboriginals until then.

I’ve been told, by one of the “activists” that you could get a “license to shoot Aborigines” before 1967. When I demanded some proof, I was told I had no respect for Aborigines….

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2023 11:18 am

It seems that aboriginals have special psychic powers and the birds and animals can communicate with them and tell them stuff that we whites couldn’t know. I asked if this was a hereditary power or was something that was taught to the young aboriginals. She told me not ask stupid questions.

Doesn’t take psychic powers. I often communicate with birds and animals yet I ain’t aboriginal. Just had a butcherbird arrive: he sings his song, which is butcherbird for “I’m hungry”. He’s learnt that that gets me to come out and give him something. Noisy miners can be especial fun. If they’re feeling ambivalent sometimes I can offer them a bit of bread, which they’ll accept but then immediately drop onto the ground. “Don’t want bread”. Whereupon I’ll offer them a morsel of mince instead, which the noisy eats. “Like mince!” Brushtail possum is like that, she loves Coles bread and regards healthy carrots as rabbit food.

A magpie is now saying tweedle at the front door. Must go…

sfw
sfw
July 10, 2023 11:20 am

JC, I know I said I would ignore you however I’ll make an exception here. I obviously didn’t make it clear, she wasn’t a prisoner, she was an outside training consultant that specialised in aboriginal cultural training.

If was some old hag who was as dumb as rocks I wouldn’t have cared.

Prisons, as far as I know, don’t use prisoners to train the prison officers.

sfw
sfw
July 10, 2023 11:23 am

Bruce, that wasn’t what she was saying, I try to keep my posts short and probably lose info and context when I do so. She was saying that they get messages from the animals and birds, along the lines of “Auntie Jenny is ill and wants you to visit” or Billy has lost his money and it’s here”, that sort of stuff.

She really meant psychic powers not powers of observation.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 11:24 am

sfw

Ignoring me makes squat difference in commenting to any comment you make. It doesn’t matter to me. People can make their own minds up after that. Next time try to be clear.

Cassie of Sydney
July 10, 2023 11:29 am

Last night Channel Nine’s 60 Minutes, a vacuous and shallow programme at the best of times, broadcast a lightweight piece on Lidia Thorpe. I didn’t watch it, I have no desire to watch 60 Minutes, it has always been canned soup journalism, and always will be.

However, there’s a piece in today’s Oz about last night’s vacuous Thorpe piece on 60 Minutes. Apart from the fact that I have a problem with 60 Minutes (and a few weeks ago it was their ABC’s Insiders that gave a platform to this disgraceful exhibitionist) , the Oz is reporting that Thorpe said the following to Karl Stefanovic, that he was…

“not bad for a white guy”.

Well, I suppose that’s better than accusing Stefanovic of having a “small penis”, just like Thorpe did outside a Melbourne strip club only a few months ago when she accused a bouncer of having a “small penis”. Karl Stefanovic, count yourself lucky!

Now, I don’t know what others think, but isn’t Thorpe’s line “not bad for a white guy” just a tad racist? Why is such racism deemed acceptable for prime time television? What sayeth Nine? Imagine if Pauline Hanson had said on 60 Minutes or any other Nine programme….”not bad for an Aboriginal“, imagine the ensuing self-righteous and hysterical condemnation from the usual howlers!

Oh, which reminds me, Pauline Hanson did once have a regular gig on Channel Nine’s Today programme however back in October 2020 Nine dropped Hanson. Why? Well the reason given was that Hanson was “divisive”. According to Nine, Hanson made offensive comments when she “attacked the residents of some public housing towers locked down in Melbourne as drug addicts who should have learned how to speak English before coming to Australia”. I fail to see anything racist or divisive in Hanson’s comments. in fact her comments reek common sense however Hanson’s words ignited the usual rabid progressive mobs to shout, scream and screech, “waaacist, waaaacist, waaaacist at Hanson , and Nine, being the soft cocks they are, succumbed to activist shouts, screams and screeches, and so Pauline Hanson is now persona non grata at Nine.

Now, whilst many have an opinion of Pauline Hanson, I’m pretty sure Hanson has never stood outside a nightclub and made disparaging remarks to a young man about the size of his todger, I’m pretty sure Hanson has never tried to rush a woman speaking at perfectly legal protest about women’s rights, I’m pretty sure Hanson hasn’t, at that protest, fallen to the wet ground and had to be dragged off by federal police. All very unseemly. And Hanson, whatever her faults, is actually quite seemly.

Thus, I’m left bewildered, perplexed and baffled, it seems Channel Nine has no problems with giving a platform to Lidia Thorpe, but have banned Pauline Hanson as divisive? What a strange world we live in, because here’s the plain truth, I know who is the divisive one here, and her name is not Pauline Hanson.

By the way, mindful of the fact that, according to one poster here, my comments are boring, please scroll the above if you don’t like it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 10, 2023 11:29 am

Former second rate (aren’t they all?) Channel 10 WA newsreader Nerelda Jacobs is certainly making the most of her 15 minutes of Noble Savage status. Got a way to go to catch Ben Wyatt though.

sfw
sfw
July 10, 2023 11:30 am

JC, when you’re like this I like to read you, it’s when you get extremely aggressive, abusive and act like you’re the smartest man in the world and the rest of us aren’t fit to wipe your arse that I turn off.

If you keep up the civility it will be good for all of us.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 10, 2023 11:33 am

… I have no desire to watch 60 Minutes, it has always been canned soup journalism, and always will be

When it started and Kerry Packer was around it was certainly well resourced and better. Gone the way of smoke ads since then.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2023 11:33 am

1 hour ago
’80pc’ oppose voice in WA seat of O’Connor: survey
Paige Taylor

Federal MP Rick Wilson believes opposition to the Indigenous voice to parliament is as high as 80 per cent in his vast West Australian electorate.

The Liberal member for the farming and mining electorate of O’Connor has revealed the results of his recent survey of residents as Indigenous Australians minister Linda Burney prepares for two days of campaigning there.

In Mr Wilson’s email survey of 1487 people in his electorate in the last week of June, 80.1 per cent said they would vote No to the voice and 19.9 per cent said they would vote Yes.

There was no undecided option in the survey, done using Mr Wilson’s database of approximately 22,000 email addresses. Mr Wilson said the email list was “self selecting up to a point” but he felt it was reasonably representative because it included a lot of people who had contacted him with complaints about the Coalition when it was in government.

O’Connor covers 1.26 million square kilometres in the lower half of Western Australia. It takes in the entire goldfields including the city of Kalgoorlie-Boulder, the remote Aboriginal communities of Ngaanyatjarraku Shire and farming districts.

Ms Burney is expected to arrive in O’Connor on Tuesday for meetings with Noongar leaders and voice volunteers. She is due to talk to elders in the south coast town of Albany, the first white settlement in WA.

rosie
rosie
July 10, 2023 11:34 am

I am so sick of my granny is so much more wise, clever and special than yours.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 10, 2023 11:35 am

vr
Jul 10, 2023 11:08 AM
What is the likelihood that the Andrews’ government will be seizing golf courses for hounsing? The Age is floating this test ballon.

Chairman Dan has seen the future and knows that you can pitch a lot of tents on a Golf Course. Great way to ‘solve’ the Housing Crisis for the Plebs.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2023 11:37 am

Sfw – I knew what you meant, but couldn’t resist going off on a tangent. Sorry. 😀

rosie
rosie
July 10, 2023 11:37 am

These are the wise old women who cure certain diseases by rolling possum poo over your skin.
If you can’t find possum poo, little balls of clay work just as well.
(Arnhem land tradition medicine)

Cassie of Sydney
July 10, 2023 11:37 am

“Federal MP Rick Wilson believes opposition to the Indigenous voice to parliament is as high as 80 per cent in his vast West Australian electorate.

The Liberal member for the farming and mining electorate of O’Connor has revealed the results of his recent survey of residents as Indigenous Australians minister Linda Burney prepares for two days of campaigning there.”

Wilson Tuckey’s old electorate. Gosh, I remember a time when the Liberal Party truly was a broad church, and had some shit kickers like Tuckey who were willing to kick shit at Labor.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 10, 2023 11:38 am

In a rare brush with fame Liam Bartlett was doing a B Ec at UWA in the 80s when both of us were nobodies.

rosie
rosie
July 10, 2023 11:39 am

Whatever they call Moreland council now has been after the public course at Northcote since forever.

rosie
rosie
July 10, 2023 11:40 am

My sister got bailed up at the railway station in her leafy the other day by Yessies.
She politely refused their leaflet.
It’s going to be relentless.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2023 11:43 am

Bowen says renewables are the cheapest electricity on the planet!

Businesses left millions out of pocket after sub-contractor building NSW’s largest wind farm goes bust (Sky News, 10 Jul)

Green Civil Con, which was building a 66-turbine site in the NSW Southern Tablelands, went into liquidation in February owing unsecured creditors $21 million.

Apparently the company really is called Green Civil Con. I thought originally that was a pisstake or subeditor’s joke.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 11:45 am

Rosie
It won’t do any good as the vast number of punters have already decided they’re going to vote NO. The YES vote has been falling faster than a hot knife cutting through butter. I even reckon NSW will vote NO. Not sure about Vic though.

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2023 11:46 am

She really meant psychic powers not powers of observation.

This is a standard belief in totemism , which was practiced by tribal societies on every continent.

The contemporary revival of totemism among aboriginals has more to do with the revival of paganism in Western culture generally rather than any unbroken continuation of aboriginal culture. Until recently, most aboriginal people identified as Christians.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2023 11:47 am

JC earlier.

Of course they are. Expensive cars are never driven, they’re towed everywhere because “rich pricks” hate driving their expensive cars. It’s all you see on load trucks. After all, they didn’t buy them to enjoy the drive.

Err, wut?
I assume these “rich pricks” were wearing three piece suits, monocles, top hats and puffing on cigars, yeah?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 10, 2023 11:48 am

Understanding where we come from and where our family is from is important in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture as it connects us to country and the ancestors, song lines and stories from that region. It is a major key in developing our cultural identity.

Whities call it “genealogical research”, sweetie.

And because their ancestors frequently came from a long way away from Australia, it can be much more important to us than basic localised research.

In my family we often sit and yarn with our elders because they have so much knowledge and wisdom to share. My aunties often say that our elders are like libraries filled with so much knowledge and teachings. Unfortunately, when an elder passes, the library closes and this knowledge can be lost.

I’d suggest that they write it all down, but that would narrow the future opportunities for finding “sacred” places when there is a hint of munni or power in the air, wouldn’t it?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 10, 2023 11:48 am

Imagine the kerfuffle if Karl had said lidia dorper was ok for a bitza. She’s not any good even if she was purple. Loud-mouth with nothing to say.

Pogria
Pogria
July 10, 2023 11:49 am

sfw,
I understood what you were describing. It always helps if you read the whole comment.;)

rosie
rosie
July 10, 2023 11:49 am

Incidentally the Colosseum is next to the Roman forum, on the other side to the right is a park then the Baths complex. The high side at the rear, as Lizzie said ,is the built up city,
Looks like the painting has been done from the higher part of the Forum complex.
Iirc Rome was a much smaller town 200 years ago, with not much interest in the ancient ruins until English grand tourers made it so.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 11:50 am

Err, wut?
I assume these “rich pricks” were wearing three piece suits, monocles, top hats and puffing on cigars, yeah?

Yeah, them “which pwicks” go to black tie dinners in a Uber and have their which pwick cars towed there too.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2023 11:50 am

H B Bear

Jul 10, 2023 11:38 AM

In a rare brush with fame Liam Bartlett was doing a B Ec at UWA in the 80s when both of us were nobodies.

With respect, sir, I would argue you both still are.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 10, 2023 11:51 am

vr
Jul 10, 2023 11:08 AM
What is the likelihood that the Andrews’ government will be seizing golf courses for hounsing? The Age is floating this test ballon.

How dare they threaten our sacred sites? HOW DARE THEY!

Pogria
Pogria
July 10, 2023 11:52 am

Bruce earlier mentioned he had come across articles online about a female Pope.

If you are interested Bruce, there was quite a good film made in 1972 called “Pope Joan”, starring Liv Ullman in the title role. I don’t know about its accuracy, but it was a decent movie.

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2023 11:53 am

In a rare brush with fame Liam Bartlett was doing a B Ec at UWA in the 80s when both of us were nobodies.

Never heard of him.

rosie
rosie
July 10, 2023 11:54 am

JC
I sincerely hope so.
As we have said repeatedly we don’t need another Canberra bureaucracy of indignanties, they won’t make an iota of difference to the intractable problems we all know exist.
Personally I think the best solution would be to steal all the children.

vr
vr
July 10, 2023 11:57 am

Chairman Dan has seen the future and knows that you can pitch a lot of tents on a Golf Course. Great way to ‘solve’ the Housing Crisis for the Plebs.

They can start with the one in Oakleigh/Clarinda/Clayton. You know the one in his electorate.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2023 11:57 am

In a rare brush with fame Liam Bartlett was doing a B Ec at UWA in the 80s when both of us were nobodies.

Never heard of him.

I’ve had the misfortune – you haven’t missed much!

Helen
Helen
July 10, 2023 12:00 pm

Killer tonight, fresh meat, yum! New smoker so going to roast the ribs in there all day tomorrow. Double yum!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2023 12:00 pm

note yesterdays Perth new Freeway opening complete with indigenous groups arguing over who had the right to conduct a smoking ceremony.

Any Sandgropers heard anything about this one?

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 12:00 pm

Yep, it’s rural and not representative of the cities, but I really think there’s movement at the station.

‘Up to 80pc’ oppose voice in vast WA seat

A new survey in the huge WA mining and farming electorate of O’Connor shows overwhelming opposition to the voice, ahead of Linda Burney’s visit to push the Yes case.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2023 12:01 pm

Guess the identity of these perps.

Five children travelling in allegedly stolen car charged after ‘dangerous driving’ during police pursuit in New South Wales (Sky News, 10 Jul)

Five children allegedly travelling in a stolen car have been charged after a police pursuit in New South Wales’ mid-west region.

NSW Police first spotted the vehicle believed to be driving above the speed limit on Sheraton Road in Dubbo about 12.20am on Sunday.

It was seen turning onto the Mitchell Highway before continuing to the intersection of Cobra and Gipps Street.

Officers attempted to stop the car on Minore Road but it allegedly failed to pull over which prompted a police pursuit.

“The pursuit continued through numerous streets around Dubbo, however, was terminated due to the dangerous manner of driving and safety concerns,” police said in a statement.

“The driver – a 13-year-old boy and four passengers – aged 10, 11, 12 and 13 – were arrested at the scene and taken to Dubbo Police Station.”

Dubbo, eh? And no, none of the defining characteristics of the kids are mentioned anywhere in the story. It’s a mystery.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 12:01 pm

My comment of the day from Roger at 11.46am:

The contemporary revival of totemism among aboriginals has more to do with the revival of paganism in Western culture generally rather than any unbroken continuation of aboriginal culture. Until recently, most aboriginal people identified as Christians.

The left’s post-Christian paganism and the Aboriginal Dreamtime myth are close cousins, if not identical twins.

Win
Win
July 10, 2023 12:01 pm

Re Aboriginal psychic powers .Lindy Chamberlaine touched on the subject in her book when imprisoned in Darwin if I remember correctly. Need to find the book for the reference.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 12:02 pm

Tom
Jul 10, 2023 12:01 PM
My comment of the day from Roger at 11.46am:

The contemporary revival of totemism among aboriginals has more to do with the revival of paganism in Western culture generally rather than any unbroken continuation of aboriginal culture. Until recently, most aboriginal people identified as Christians.

The left’s post-Christian paganism and the Aboriginal Dreamtime myth are close cousins, if not identical twins.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 12:03 pm

Woops. Didn’t mean to double-post that.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 12:05 pm

Just on the issue of psychic powers. White folks don’t in any of that crap, do they? They don’t believe in tarot cards, crystal balls, palm reading and talking to the dead through a medium. It’s just aboriginals.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2023 12:06 pm

JC

Jul 10, 2023 11:45 AM

Rosie
It won’t do any good as the vast number of punters have already decided they’re going to vote NO. The YES vote has been falling faster than a hot knife cutting through butter. I even reckon NSW will vote NO. Not sure about Vic though.

Yes, the majority of states thing is where it will fail.
WA and Queensland are gone.
Tassie and SA are slightly underwater, NSW is marginally Yes, and Victorianistan is comfortably Yes.
But I still maintain there is a strong No undercurrent in the polling which won’t show until polling day.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 12:09 pm

Tom
Jul 10, 2023 12:02 PM

Excellent comment Tom.

I’d also like to add that all white folks are so smart they don’t believe that propellers on sticks and plastic panels will offer enough energy to keep industrial civilization going. Like who would ever believe such a stupid thing? It has to be aboriginals

Win
Win
July 10, 2023 12:14 pm

Not sure about possum poo Rosie but a Great Grandfather had a spear wound packed with clay by one of the Lubras which he allowed my Aunt and Mother to check out. He also returned to cook up his Goanna oil on the stove whilst his dil was making bread.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2023 12:14 pm

What is the likelihood that the Andrews’ government will be seizing golf courses for hounsing? The Age is floating this test ballon.

If Caberaaaahhhh can grab a fully functioning charity hospital I can see petty things like bylaws of planning permissions being a barrier to OPM for maaaates.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 12:19 pm

But I still maintain there is a strong No undercurrent in the polling which won’t show until polling day.

Spot on, Sancho.

The shy conservative syndrome is global and is now getting more pronounced as official censorship escalates, enforced by the Silicon Valley social media monopolies.

Everyone who doesn’t go along with what the government is telling them to think has been shamed into silence. The only place they can be honest is at the ballot box.

Don’t be surprised if the Voice is not just defeated, but decimated. Asking the public to endorse racism after 50 years official anti-racism was insane and the only people who don’t understand that are the zombies pushing the Voice.

Alamak!
July 10, 2023 12:20 pm

Start with seizing golf clubs and schools in Teal electorates, plus any parks can be re-used for solar panels. Its only fair to take people at their word on renewables and social housing.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2023 12:23 pm

They don’t believe in tarot cards, crystal balls, palm reading and talking to the dead through a medium. It’s just aboriginals.
..
propellers on sticks and plastic panels will offer enough energy to keep industrial civilization going

Both of the people in those categories are dead shits, no mater the race.
Both are strange cult like entities beloved by grifters and con artists.

Both should be mocked and their eventual inevitable failures be highlighted by having their carcasses gibbetted over major traffic routes and off decommissioned oil rigs.

Lysander
Lysander
July 10, 2023 12:23 pm

Until recently, most aboriginal people identified as Christians.

If you come across any Yes voter with a Christian name, denounce them and make sure they change their name to be something non colonial.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
July 10, 2023 12:25 pm

Don’t be surprised if the Voice is not just defeated, but decimated.

Admittedly we are in a conservative country town, but we have yet to come across ANYONE who admits they will vote yes. And the no voters are adamantly , apocalyptically, furiously against the voice and these purple flag things the kids have to bow down to at school.

Zatara
Zatara
July 10, 2023 12:30 pm

“Five children allegedly travelling in a stolen car have been charged after a police pursuit in New South Wales’ mid-west region.”

Was at least one charged with the theft of the car?

Poor policing or poor writing?

Pogria
Pogria
July 10, 2023 12:34 pm

Zulu,
the Daily Mail has a large article about the two mobs duking it out at the smoking ceremony.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2023 12:35 pm

“Five children allegedly travelling in a stolen car have been charged after a police pursuit in New South Wales’ mid-west region.”

By 6:00 p.m.

“Two aspiring rappers and three promising junior footballers have been caught up in an incident involving a car with disputed title.”

John H.
John H.
July 10, 2023 12:35 pm

The left’s post-Christian paganism and the Aboriginal Dreamtime myth are close cousins, if not identical twins.

Christians complaining about paganism? Ironic.

eric hinton
eric hinton
July 10, 2023 12:46 pm

Danikka Calyon is a Noongar woman from Perth and youth leader.

We are supposed to take all this seriously?

Yes. And keeping this vague, I never thought why Noongahs lived on ‘the reserve’ and bought grog at the side window of the pub – kind how you bought your espresso during the ‘rona clamp down. They lived on the reserve and, by choice, sat up the back of the class. Nor did I think that, metaphorically speaking if not literally, those naturally sTanned blond-haired kids sitting up the back were my cousins. I mean literally metaphorically. A lot of players in the AFL have the same names, same as the spine of the local footy team has to this day…. Long after I left town, the state, the country my mother told me dreaming stories she was told by a church do-gooder about the rainbow serpent camped by the permanent pools (by then a stinking salted cesspit); told her by the blond-haired kids who sat up the back of the class. Nor did I think, when a Valiant load (hi Joh) of Noongahs, would ask the old man if they could collect what was called dead wool, that it might have been an opportunity to visit country (there being a gnamma hole in a flat rock in a back paddock and all) Kind of like if you tested negative to the ‘rona you were allowed to enter the old peoples’ home to visit your great aunt. The old man always said sure, but he sure didn’t leave any dead sheep lying around for fear of botulism…. I didn’t learn about the Carrolup art movement until after I left the planet; so I didn’t know that the tradition of painting country continued long after the mission was closed…. I’m voting No as I sure as hell don’t think a Govt can help.

Damon
Damon
July 10, 2023 12:47 pm

“We are supposed to take all this seriously?
Nah. If they had invented writing, their knowledge would not have been lost. And since aboriginality cannot be objectively defined, the whole Voice issue is just theatre, albeit a play with real and potentially unpleasant consequences.

Alamak!
July 10, 2023 12:55 pm

Damon> Its a fight about who runs the country, same as the republican referendum. And total control forever is the end goal.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 10, 2023 1:05 pm

Aborigines won’t be running the country if The Voice gets up.
Get a grip.

Yeah, it’ll be run in the name of Aborigines, but Aborigines won’t be making any decisions.

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2023 1:08 pm

Just on the issue of psychic powers. White folks don’t in any of that crap, do they? They don’t believe in tarot cards, crystal balls, palm reading and talking to the dead through a medium. It’s just aboriginals.

As I suggested, it’s the revival of paganism among affluent white people that is creating the space for totemism to be revived by indigenous folk who previously showed little interest in this aspect of their culture.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 10, 2023 1:08 pm

The Republic was another con.
Republics have armed Militias as a cornerstone,
the Push for the Bunyip Republic was led by Gun Grabbers.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 1:21 pm

The TAB has risked losing $400,000 after taking its biggest bet ever on the AFL – $1 million on Collingwood to beat Carlton in round 20 at odds of better than 2-to-1-on ($1.40).

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2023 1:23 pm

The sites unkle Dolan appears.

Yeah, it’ll be run in the name of Aborigines, but Aborigines won’t be making any decisions.

Having a extra tier of government selected by race wont be making any decisions.
There you have it, from the blogs 2nd leading wrongologist.

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Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 10, 2023 1:24 pm

A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.

– Bruce Lee

Foxbody
Foxbody
July 10, 2023 1:30 pm

That Dannika Calyon person sure seems to have had opportunities that nearly all white/ Indian/ Vietnamese/Lebanese/ Chinese/ Maori kids could not even imagine. Shame this country is such a racist wasteland, hey?

rosie
rosie
July 10, 2023 1:30 pm

Tarot cards, numerology etc etc.
It’s being expected to gush over it and accept it as superior that irks me.
I remember a SIL did some numerology thing for my youngest when he was born.
I think I might have been rather rude.
And good point Roger.
Every time I read a short biography of a revered Victorian aboriginal ancestor, if they weren’t an ordained minister they were a devout Presbyterian, Church of Christ, Methodist or Anglican.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2023 1:33 pm

A small nugget from the ABCcess’ trans story…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-10/transgender-children-westmead-hospital-research-four-corners/102568570

In a 2021 peer-reviewed report, researchers identified complex family trauma amongst those they reviewed with “high rates of adverse childhood experiences including family conflict, parental mental illness and loss of important figures via separation“.

ie: People who are already copping a hiding in life plus being raised by single mums who push their stresses onto the kids.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 10, 2023 1:34 pm

Freedom isn’t to do what you want at somebody else’s expense.

– John Lydon

Lysander
Lysander
July 10, 2023 1:35 pm

I had friends who were missionaries in the NT during the 70’s to 90’s. They remarked to me that the locals were always very inviting and very friendly (a generalisation, sure) but they said all of that changed after Mabo, and they were never welcomed back so generously ever again…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2023 1:39 pm
Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
July 10, 2023 1:44 pm

Lat night I was at my local when the regional news came on the TV showing the bunfight between the two aboriginal groups about who should have the privilege of lighting a fire and dousing the visiting pollymuppets in malodorous smoke.

Raucous laughter and many comments that could be considered “inappropriate”.

I doubt there are many “Yes” voters in the pub’s clientele.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 10, 2023 1:47 pm

Aborigines [av. IQ 60] are going to be telling
Ministers/Senior Public Servants [av. IQ 120]
what to do next?

I don’t think so, dopey.

Lysander
Lysander
July 10, 2023 1:48 pm

Some poor bastard in Exmouth has been quoted $20K to undertake a cultural survey of some land he recently bought to build a house on.

He thinks it likely the locals will rule against him building a home…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2023 1:49 pm
Lysander
Lysander
July 10, 2023 1:49 pm

I don’t think so, dopey.

“It would be a brave government to not listen to the Voice” DH.

Lysander
Lysander
July 10, 2023 1:51 pm

And if the PM, nor a single member of his Cabinet can actually tell us what the Voice is and how it will work, how the fark does Groogs know?

Well, simply put: He doesn’t.

Lysander
Lysander
July 10, 2023 1:56 pm

And!!! I’m not sure if anyone has pointed out the irony yet (or evil), that they are giving a Voice to a bunch of elites above everyone else, and they’re going to censor the rest of us with a Misinformation Regime?

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2023 1:56 pm

He thinks it likely the locals will rule against him building a home…

Rendering the block worthless.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 10, 2023 1:57 pm

Groogs has a CCTV feed straight from parliament house.

Pogria
Pogria
July 10, 2023 1:58 pm

Michael Smith has an excellent clip on his site of Linda Burney being asked questions by some ALPBC nob. (Michael is doing well by the way.)
Burney is turning into an Aussie version of Kamala Harris. Won’t be long before she develops a cackle.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2023 2:00 pm

Roger

Jul 10, 2023 1:56 PM

He thinks it likely the locals will rule against him building a home…

Rendering the block worthless.

Err, not quite.
Once he sells it to the local Head Leaf Burner, the cultural issues will magically disappear and a house will appear.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 10, 2023 2:01 pm

And!!! I’m not sure if anyone has pointed out the irony yet (or evil), that they are giving a Voice to a bunch of elites above everyone else

IQ 60 Aborigines are Elites?
Pull the other one!
… , and they’re going to censor the rest of us with a Misinformation Regime?
Like your Bow Wow on this thread trying to nullify my comments?

Vicki
Vicki
July 10, 2023 2:01 pm

This is a wonderful article in Quadrant by Salvatore Babones on the absurdity of the health, population, and deaths in custody of Aborigines. I am sure Babones would not mind it being copied into the Cat:

The Handy Malleability of Malinformation

Salvatore Babones

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians have the worst health statistics, compared to the general population of their country, of any indigenous peoples in the world. From 2015 to 2017 (the most recent period for which indigenous life tables have been calculated by the Australian Bureau of Statistics), indigenous life expectancy at birth was 71.6 years for males and 75.6 years for females. That represents a life expectancy gap between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians of 8.6 years for men and 7.8 years for women (there being no non-binary people when it comes to health statistics). These gaps are almost certainly a legacy of colonialism: after all, the ABS is one of the few government departments that does not “pay its respects to Indigenous Elders past, present and future” or “acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of Country throughout Australia”. The organisation is, by implication, racist—and its statistics are just one more example of the continuing violence of colonialism.

Salvatore ‘The Philistine’ Babones appears in every Quadrant.
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Don’t blame the statistics; blame the statistician. If the woke new world has taught us one thing, it is that maths is racist, and the white supremacists at the ABS have published some indigenous numbers that would turn a Greens senator red. For example, it turns out that the life expectancy gap between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians narrowed by nearly one-quarter between 2005–07 and 2015–17. That’s pretty impressive for a period when indigenous Australians lacked a constitutionally enshrined Voice to Parliament and executive government. Unbeknownst to the members of the First Nations National Constitutional Convention who met at Ayers Rock in 2017 to decry the “torment of our powerlessness” in their “Statement from the Heart”, their torment was in fact demonstrably declining. And their numbers were rapidly increasing.

The neocolonialist bigots at the ABS (all right, maybe that’s going too far) tell us that Australia’s indigenous population increased by 73 per cent between the 2011 and 2021 censuses, implying a compound annual population growth rate of 5.6 per cent. Assuming that rates of Aboriginal migration to Australia are quite low (the Love and Thoms cases notwithstanding), this implies a rate of natural increase that is substantially higher than that of any United Nations member state. If current trends continue, the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander population of Australia will overtake that of Australia as a whole within eighty years—at which point, everyone will be indigenous (and then some). That’s true even after accounting for Labor’s post-election decision to boost immigration after all. Big Australia will not be multicultural. It will be indigenous.

In short, official statistics show that things are finally looking up for indigenous Australians. And if we learned anything from Jacinda Ardern (Harvard Kennedy School Angelopoulos Global Public Leaders Fellow, Hauser Leader in the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership, Knight Tech Governance Leadership Fellow at the Harvard Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society, and former Supreme Leader of New Zealand), we learned that the government should always be our “single source of truth”. If you can’t trust a structurally racist government statistical bureaucracy, who can you trust?

As every Quadrant reader knows, there are lies, damned lies and statistics—or to use the present-day terms of art: misinformation, disinformation and malinformation. In this new dispensation, an honest mistake is mere misinformation. An intentional untruth is damned misinformation. And the most nefarious information of all—the kind for which Quadrant is infamous—is malinformation: true facts that have the capacity to cause harm. Malinformation like that contained in the Hunter Biden laptop, the transsexual Nashville Christian school shooter’s manifesto, and the January 6 Capitol security camera footage, is real, and all too dangerous for prime time. Or even the overnight slot. Such sources of malinformation are not news at all. Merely acknowledging their existence is a form of hate speech. Hate speech that happens to be true, but in the new dispensation, truth is no defence.

Thus when the racists at the Australian Institute of Criminology (inexplicably: also no acknowledgment of country) released the 2021-22 Deaths in Custody report, the highly-cited chart demonstrating that the rate of indigenous deaths in custody has long been roughly half the rate for non-indigenous Australians was removed from the website. It’s still there in the PDF report, page 17 (Figure 3), but without the precise numbers (which might accidentally be cited by the ABC). The relevant statistics are now buried on pages 51 and 52 in Appendix Table D5—far out of reach of even the most intrepid television news intern. Oh, and the new chart includes contextualising information to make it clear that although the rate of indigenous deaths in custody is much lower than that for non-indigenous Australians (malinformation), the rate of indigenous deaths relative to their overall concentration in the Australian population remains higher (ben-information? eu-information? Ardern-information?).

Also gone from the 2021-22 report is the chart showing that the single largest cause of indigenous deaths in custody is … crashing your car while attempting to avoid police custody. In other words: joy rides gone wrong. In the era of Black Lives Matter, this is definitely malinformation. No one should know that had indigenous Australians peacefully obeyed police orders to halt their stolen vehicles last year, the rate of indigenous deaths in “custody” would have been less than one-third the non-indigenous rate. Among indigenous people who die in actual custody (prison), most die of natural causes (more malinformation). It must be noted, sadly, that several indigenous prisoners commit suicide almost every year—albeit at a rate roughly half that of non-indigenous prisoners. Kudos to the Klansmen at the AIC for letting that dangerous fact slip through.

All things considered, the most effective way to reduce the rate of indigenous deaths in custody may be simply to parole prisoners when they get sick. They’re going to die anyway; why have them die in prison? May as well let Medicare take the blame. Enterprising justice ministers, take note: online access to Quadrant policy advice is well worth the online subscription price of just $98 a year. Or go all-in on a print subscription, and you’ll get your policy prescriptions on the first of every month, delivered straight to your home or office. At $118 a year, the combined print-and-digital subscription is designed “for avid readers of leading ideas from Australia’s brightest”. Subscribe now, and Keith will throw in two pages a month of exceptional American philistinism at no extra charge.

The great thing about the term “malinformation” is that it is so very malleable. Misinformation and disinformation can be fact-checked; malinformation can only be values-checked. Thus although the 73 per cent increase in Australia’s indigenous population over the last decade is eu-information in the hands of the mainstream media, it is malinformation in the hands of the Philistine. The eu-narrative promoted by the ABC, SBS, the Conversation and the ABS itself is that increasing social acceptance of indigenous Australians and the prospect of being “recognised” by a constitutional “voice” have reduced the fear associated with coming out as indigenous. The corresponding mal-narrative that the rapid increase in people self-identifying as indigenous is spurious and driven primarily by the new white (and Asian?) fashion for discovering Aboriginal roots is found only in Quadrant.

In its article analysing the boom in indigenous self-identification, the ABS offers eight distinct arguments in favour of the eu-narrative. It does not deign (dare?) to mention the mal-narrative. Yet the circumstantial mal-evidence is overwhelming: the new indigenous people live mainly in the capital city suburbs and rarely speak indigenous languages. In greater Sydney, only 479 indigenous people report speaking indigenous languages at home, while 61,814 primarily speak English at home and 1716 indigenous Sydneysiders report that they primarily communicate in a foreign language (neither English nor indigenous). That’s right: far more indigenous people in Sydney speak foreign languages at home with their families than speak indigenous languages. Statistics for Melbourne tell a similar story.

An important corollary of the mal-thesis that an increasing number of essentially non-indigenous people are rushing to claim indigenous status (we’re looking at you, Bruce Pascoe) is that indigenous health statistics would show rapid improvement—as indeed they have. With careful research, it might be possible to tease out and cordon off this effect, but the peer review system does not admit the (mal-) possibility that indigenous self-identification could be anything other than genuine. That assumption may lead to an incorrect conclusion that the indigenous health gap is disappearing, but such conclusions are themselves malinformation, and thus unlikely to be reported. Every right-thinking person knows that indigenous health can only be improved by indigenous sovereignty. A racist might point out that life expectancy in sovereign Papua New Guinea is only sixty-six years, but that’s malinformation, and can safely be ignored.

Lysander
Lysander
July 10, 2023 2:05 pm

Groogs has a CCTV feed straight from parliament house.

You mean from Albo’s head (cos nobody else knows wtf is going on up here, except for Groogs of course).

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