Open Thread – Mon 31 July 2023


Camille Monet in the Garden, Claude Monet, 1873

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Bar Beach Swimmer
July 31, 2023 8:47 pm

SP @ 8:34pm

+1000

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 8:51 pm

At least I haven’t had mine cut off.

I’ve had a reduction.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 8:53 pm

Googlery’s efforts were calculated and deliberate, and Betty’s was just obtuse couch-revolutionary posturing

Yep.

It’s cardigans at full blast with some prescription meds mixed with red or scotch. The only missing element is ‘if I were 30 years younger I’d….’

Ed October was different. Flat out incitement, looking to tease out wacisty Grampian Nazi commentary from the weak before going on the squeal.

A failed enabler.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 8:54 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer

Jul 31, 2023 8:47 PM

SP @ 8:34pm

+1000

Thanks.
But, please.
No plussing.
It sets JC off.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 8:56 pm

The midget cheat has left the playing fields of Blighty for the last time, as reported just now.

Thankfully and amazingly, he didn’t have the colossal effrontery to raise his bat as he left the ground.

Hopefully he knows it’s over.

Cassie of Sydney
July 31, 2023 8:56 pm

My ears were burning, and I was wondering why they were burning, and so reading upthread I came cross something I wrote earlier this year…

“every word Vijaya Gadde says is a lie, including ‘and’ and ‘the’.””

I stand by that statement about Vijaya Gadde. She blatantly lied on Joe Rogan about Meghan Murphy’s banning from Twitter, which she was behind. It was Gadde who turned Twitter into her own personal progressive sewer, banning conservatives left, right and centre, in fact banning anyone from the right of centre whose opinions she disliked

However, under no circumstances was I referring to people of the subcontinent as a whole. I like Indians and Bangladeshis. As for lying, people of all ethnicities/cultures lie, sadly it’s part of the human condition, and it’s not confined to any race. As for Gadde’s lies, they weren’t due to her ethnicity, they were a result of her progressive politics. Progressivism is a lie and progressives lie.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2023 8:56 pm

‘Documentary a biased set-up’: bitter Dark Emu feud turns personal

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In an explosive reignition of the Dark Emu debate, social anthropologist Peter Sutton has attacked an ABC documentary as a “biased set-up” and Marcia Langton as “misusing her extensive power”.

A new documentary, The Dark Emu Story, made by Blackfella Films for the ABC, examines debate around Bruce Pascoe’s landmark book, which questions the hunter-gather tag assigned to the First Australians and points to Aboriginal sowing and harvesting of plants.

Professor Sutton, who co-authored a leading critique of Pascoe’s book, said he was invited to take part in an “even-handed” documentary, only to have key remarks left out and Professor Langton given a “platform” for “an abusive and disrespectful tirade”.

However, Professor Langton hit back, accusing Professor Sutton of “breathtaking arrogance”, a “completely unwarranted” attack on her, and being unwilling “to debate historical records”.

Professor Sutton, co-author with anthropologist Keryn Walshe of Farmers or Hunter-gatherers? The Dark Emu Debate, accused Blackfella Films of “bad faith” and painting him and his colleague as “racists”. “The film is biased towards one side of the debate, the side of Bruce Pascoe,” Professor Sutton told The Australian. “At several points it turns into propaganda.

“This is the opposite of the much-stressed independence and even-handedness that Blackfella Films promised in our pre-filming discussions. It becomes a puff piece for Pascoe. Worst of all, the film depicts us as racists by association with right-wing shock jocks. Marcia Langton associates us with the colonial anthropology of 100 years ago. The film was a set-up. A case of bad faith.”

Professor Sutton, a social anthropologist and linguist who has spent 50 years studying and recording Aboriginal languages and mapping Indigenous cultural landscapes, said Professor Langton had “turned on the community of scholars who have long both nurtured and learned from her”.

“In the film, she tries to hijack a debate about the precolonial economies and technologies of the old people and turn it into a personal battle in the great race war,” he said.

“She parodies modern anthropologists as if time had stood still in 1914 … But Langton’s political rage does not entitle her to misuse her extensive power and high profile, especially in an effort to prop up Pascoe’s work by denigrating her colleagues. But misuse it she does.”

Professor Langton, an anthropologist and geographer who has produced a large body of work in political and legal anthropology and Indigenous culture and art, accused Professor Sutton of “lacking collegiality”. “It is clear that he feels justified in publishing an entire book with Keryn Walshe which contains a great number of errors and interpretations that I do not agree with, and which many others do not agree with,” she said.

“His problem is that he refuses to accept any criticism of his work – not mine, nor anyone else’s; his arrogance is breathtaking. My objections are with the core of his ideas, which originate in 19th and early 20th century scientism … It is clear that he feels justified in completely ignoring all critique.”

Professor Sutton said the film, directed by Indigenous writer and director Allan Clarke, became a “sympathy drive for Pascoe”, descending into “schmaltz and bathos with violins playing in the background”.

“But it’s not the failure of the film as an attempt at documentary that most concerns me here. It’s how the film suffers terminally from an overdose of viewer-bullying from Langton,” Professor Sutton said.

An ABC spokeswoman said: “The ABC applied the documentary to legal and editorial review before it was broadcast, and is satisfied the filmmakers delivered a program that informed, educated and entertained our audience.”

Blackfella Films and Mr Clarke did not respond by deadline.

I know who I regard as credible, and it ain’t Marcia Langton.

Lee
Lee
July 31, 2023 9:01 pm

I understand your point, and I found Ed’s comment disgusting. I’m not suggesting he shouldn’t have suffered the consequences. However, we’re not mind readers and we don’t know if his motive was to cause detriment to the blog or because he’s a moron.

I don’t know about this blog – I don’t come here that often – but it is apparent from his comments on C.L.’s blog that Ed has a visceral hatred of women (especially conservatives and those in the Liberal Party), unless your name happens to be Brittany or Katy Gallagher or other Labor types.

Tom
Tom
July 31, 2023 9:02 pm

Just been watching white “Voice architect” Megan Davis on Sky News wailing about losing the referendum.

When are they going to do something about fat chicks?

Cassie of Sydney
July 31, 2023 9:03 pm

The Dark Emu/Bruce Pascoe fabrications and the stoush between Langton and Walshe and Sutton is funny because Walshe and Sutton are old school lefties.

I do always enjoy it when the left eat their own.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 9:08 pm

Cassie

Just to be very clear, the comment I posted had zero to do with you and it was clear that you were singling out the nasty piece of work, and not 1.2 billion people. I even made emphasis in a subsequent comment to highlight this.

You made a comment about that individual. Turtlehead decided to topper that by 1.2 billion which was what I was highlight.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 31, 2023 9:09 pm

…and being unwilling “to debate historical records”…

Anything by Daisy Bates or is it all strictly the modern version of historical records?

She’s a horrible old grifter, fellated far above her station.
But is Sutton and co had any real pushback the time was 40 years ago when they were in a position to call out the crap

Lee
Lee
July 31, 2023 9:10 pm

I know who I regard as credible, and it ain’t Marcia Langton.

She would have been ideal as the wicked queen in the new Snow White film.

I have never seen anyone look as visibly bitter and sour as she does all the time.

Cassie of Sydney
July 31, 2023 9:10 pm

“Just to be very clear, the comment I posted had zero to do with you and it was clear that you were singling out the nasty piece of work, and not 1.2 billion people. I even made emphasis in a subsequent comment to highlight this.”

I know that JC.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 9:10 pm

I don’t know about this blog – I don’t come here that often – but it is apparent from his comments on C.L.’s blog that Ed has a visceral hatred of women (especially conservatives and those in the Liberal Party), unless your name happens to be Brittany or Katy Gallagher or other Labor types.

Okay then, but calling out over a billion people ugly liars doesn’t reach your disgust level then, which is my point.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 9:11 pm

When are they going to do something about fat chicks?

You’d think the Greens would put a Bill up or something. Massive carbon factories, they are.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2023 9:13 pm

C.L.s blog raising the issue “Do we have to display the Aboriginal and T.S.I. flag while announcing the deaths of AUSTRALIAN servicemen?”

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 9:14 pm

Let me finally get to the point. The great thing about the Right is that you don’t see so much naked tribalism as you do and we’re currently witnessing on the Left. Always call out feral bullshit and not take sides by excusing yours.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 31, 2023 9:16 pm

Bruce Lehrmann will lodge a multimillion-dollar claim for compensation against the ACT Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions as the territory government examines what are expected to be serious adverse findings against chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 9:16 pm

It’s cardigans at full blast with some prescription meds mixed with red or scotch. The only missing element is ‘if I were 30 years younger I’d….’

Quite apart from anything else, if you are spouting “defending fweedom and democwacy” and simultaneously advocating bulk summary execution of your opponents, you’ve kind of missed the point.
Bit like the clown who spent months bitching and moaning about Dan’s Lockdowns being enforced by a compliant Police Force (and fair enough).
But, nek minnit, he is cheering on street executions of drug dealers President Duterte in the Philippines because it “fixed the drug problem”.
Did it though?
If you’re prepared to endorse the summary execution of 3,300 people (half of whom were killed by “unknown assailants”), you are probably not above fudging drug crime statistics.
It now emerges that many of the “drug executions” were simply score-settling between rivals.

So.
8 o’clock curfew? … Huge infringement of rights.
3,300 summary executions? … meh.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 9:18 pm

If you’re prepared to endorse the summary execution of 3,300 people (half of whom were killed by “unknown assailants”), you are probably not above fudging drug crime statistics.

The toll has been estimated as high as 30,000 or more.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 9:23 pm

However, under no circumstances was I referring to people of the subcontinent as a whole.

That is the difference.
Calling out the poor behaviour of an individual cannot be characterised as racism.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 9:28 pm

Calling out the poor behaviour of an individual cannot be characterised as racism.

A fact that certain interest groups do not readily accept, when a first nations has been slung out of the pub.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 9:30 pm

Perhaps if the offending comments didn’t appear in the first place, Dover, the opportunity to repeat them would be limited.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 9:39 pm

A fact that certain interest groups do not readily accept, when a first nations has been slung out of the pub.

Oh like what “interest groups” eggsactly?

Say you’re not making shit up again for self serving blowhard reasons. Say it ain’t so. Not tonight.

MatrixTransform
July 31, 2023 9:44 pm

Perhaps if the offending comments didn’t appear in the first place

this is the possibly the most idiotic thing I’ve heard all year

MatrixTransform
July 31, 2023 9:46 pm

are you working it out yet Dover?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 9:47 pm

Say you’re not making shit up again* for self serving blowhard reasons. Say it ain’t so. Not tonight.

Citation required.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 9:48 pm

Perhaps if the offending comments didn’t appear in the first place

this is the possibly the most idiotic thing I’ve heard all year

+1

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 9:51 pm

Trans

I wouldn’t reverse those two enlightening comments if I were you.

are you working it out yet Dover?

this is the possibly the most idiotic thing I’ve heard all year

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 9:52 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Jul 31, 2023 9:48 PM

Perhaps if the offending comments didn’t appear in the first place

this is the possibly the most idiotic thing I’ve heard all year

+1

Citation required.

Jorge
Jorge
July 31, 2023 9:52 pm

Perhaps if the offending comments didn’t appear in the first place

Please. Nobody here was offended. Are you suggesting self censorship to pre empt complaints. Let’s not put a dampener on freedom to offend. It’s what makes this place so entertaining and lively.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 9:53 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Jul 31, 2023 9:28 PM

A fact that certain interest groups do not readily accept, when a first nations has been slung out of the pub.

Most definitely citation required.

Muddy
Muddy
July 31, 2023 9:55 pm

Regarding the health & reputation of the blog, I believe it’s important to consider patterns, rather than isolated incidents.

Most of us who are human have moments of frustration or exasperation.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 9:59 pm

Please. Nobody here was offended.

Oh okay.

Nobody, not one of the indig posters here was offended by the naval/agriculture/political/sporting/jacaranda/corflute’s comments about IQs of 60.

Are you sure? How do you know?

Let’s not put a dampener on freedom to offend. It’s what makes this place so entertaining and lively.

Agreed. Putting berley out to tempt the weak is a whole different bag of sweaty cats.

Jorge
Jorge
July 31, 2023 9:59 pm

The lesbians are killing it.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 31, 2023 10:00 pm

Professor Sutton, co-author with anthropologist Keryn Walshe of Farmers or Hunter-gatherers? The Dark Emu Debate, accused Blackfella Films of “bad faith” and painting him and his colleague as “racists”.

That is how the debate is always framed: The single progressive narrative vs racists.

There can never be two views arguing points of merit.

And Langton saying Sutton has not read historical records? The historical records have underwritten the hunter-gatherer view for a couple of centuries. Pascoe’s spin is novel distortions and far-fetched interpretations of topography to summon up imagined fields of grain, silos, towns, observatories, and science.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 10:02 pm

A fact that certain interest groups do not readily accept, when a first nations has been slung out of the pub.

Most definitely citation required.

So, first grow a dick & balls, then be here when next we’ve reason to sling out a first nations.

Use your people skills on the ensuing …er… situation. Call ’em a few names, like you do in here – should work?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 10:02 pm

this is the possibly the most idiotic thing I’ve heard all year

Nah.

For mine it’s ‘god oracle’ and people shit their pants when I come into the room’.

That will never get old.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 10:03 pm

Regarding the health & reputation of the blog, I believe it’s important to consider patterns, rather than isolated incidents.

Most of us who are human have moments of frustration or exasperation.

LOL, Muds, you’re such a one trick pony.

Would regurgitating such frustrations or exasperation several times fit in as patterns or just “collectively” as isolated incidences? I’m only asking because you know I believe you’re as straight as the Eyre Highway in these matters.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 10:05 pm

For mine it’s ‘god oracle’ and people shit their pants when I come into the room’.
That will never get old.

KD, that one may be true.
Has anybody actually done a verifiable “contents of pants” inspection after whorevver it is enters a room?

Zackerly…….

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 10:09 pm

Driller

So, first grow a dick & balls, then be here when next we’ve reason to sling out a first nations.

Oh so someone needs to grow a dick and balls and get over to the motel quick pronto to see it in action?

But, it still doesn’t satisfy the citation required to provide evidence to your assertion. As in the past and not some time in the future.

Use your people skills on the ensuing …er… situation. Call ’em a few names, like you do in here – should work?

You mean like dago? That should work down here too. To use your old axiom (sort of), try that here bloke, and you’ be arse kicked back up to the Queersland border with a foot in your fat mouth.

Jorge
Jorge
July 31, 2023 10:11 pm

KD can the Aussies make the required total (384). Run rate seems to have slowed.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 10:12 pm

That will never get old.

That’s been marked for the comment of the year. It’s a shoe in for the asshat of the year award. Not given every year either. The comment has to earn it first like the Nobel.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 10:16 pm

Please. Nobody here was offended. Are you suggesting self censorship to pre empt complaints

No.
Just cease and desist from making outrageous assertions that we need to execute lefties by the cattletruck load, especially when the mincing poodle making the threat is all mouth and no trousers and has no ability or will to carry out the threat anyway.
Except if the lefties are on their last legs and can be despatched by tying a reef knot in their IV.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 10:22 pm

KD can the Aussies make the required total (384).

Yes. Yes they can. Just under 150 to get, with two sessions left to play. The 384 total will be the sixth highest fourth-innings run chase in Test history, should the rain not intrude.

Seven wickets in the shed. It should be all right.

If it gets down to the wire (which I won’t be awake to see), I ask that Todd Murphy hit the winning runs with seven minutes left.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 10:23 pm

Oh so someone needs to grow a dick and balls and get over ….

Yes, you.

But, it still doesn’t satisfy the citation required to provide evidence to your assertion.

It will.

Use your people skills on the ensuing …er… situation. Call ’em a few names, like you do in here – should work?

You mean like dago?

You’ll think of more apt words – your people skills & good manners will guide you to some appropriate terminology.

To use your old axiom (sort of), try that here bloke, and you’ be arse kicked back up to the Queersland border with a foot in your fat mouth.

You haven’t got what it takes.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 10:27 pm

I’ve mentioned before that regular people shouldn’t take this gerbil warming anxiety simply as amusing. It’s quite real. When you see Greta Thumbnail acting hysterically about gerbiling, don’t discount this as she and countless others have been brainwashed to believe it and they’re absolutely panicked. This facet of mental illness is very, very real.

Read on. In the WSJ today the report is that people are suffering severe mental illness from this scam.

Climate Change Obsession Is a Real Mental Disorder
Alarmist stories about the weather, not the warm air itself, are behind the left’s anxiety and dread.

By Allysia Finley

July 30, 2023 1:54 pm ET

A heat reading at Furnace Creek Visitor Center in Death Valley, Calif., July 16. Photo: ronda churchill/Agence France-Presse/Getty Images

The media wants you to know it’s hot outside. “ ‘Heat health emergency’: Nearly half the US at risk,” CNN proclaimed last week as temperatures climbed above 90 degrees in much of the country.

If heat waves were as deadly as the press proclaims, Homo sapiens couldn’t have survived thousands of years without air conditioning. Yet here we are. Humans have shown remarkable resilience and adaptation—at least until modern times, when half of society lost its cool over climate change.

“Extreme Temperatures Are Hurting Our Mental Health,” a recent Bloomberg headline warns. Apparently every social problem under the sun is now attributable to climate change. But it’s alarmist stories about bad weather that are fueling mental derangements worthy of the DSM-5—not the warm summer air itself.

The Bloomberg article cites a July meta-analysis in the medical journal Lancet, which found a tenuous link between higher temperatures and suicides and mental illness. But the study deems the collective evidence of “low certainty” owing to inconsistent study findings, methodologies, measured variables and definitions. The authors also note that “climate change might not necessarily increase mental health issues because people might adapt over time, meaning that higher temperatures could become normal and not be experienced as anomalous or extreme.”

Well, yes. Before the media began reporting on putative temperature records—the scientific evidence for which is also weak—heat waves were treated as a normal part of summer. Uncomfortable, but figuratively nothing to sweat about.

Yet according to a World Health Organization report last year, the very “awareness of climate change and extreme weather events and their impacts” may lead to a host of ills, including strained social relationships, anxiety, depression, intimate-partner violence, helplessness, suicidal behavior and alcohol and substance abuse.

A study in 2021 of 16- to 25-year-olds in 10 countries including the U.S. reported that 59% were very or extremely worried about climate change, and 84% were at least moderately worried. Forty-five percent claimed they were so worried that they struggled to function on a daily basis, the definition of an anxiety disorder.

“First and foremost, it is imperative that adults understand that youth climate anxiety (also referred to as eco-anxiety, solastalgia, eco-guilt or ecological grief) is an emotionally and cognitively functional response to real existential threats,” a May 10 editorial in the journal Nature explained. “Although feelings of powerlessness, grief and fear can be profoundly disruptive—particularly for young people unaccustomed to the depth and complexity of such feelings—it is important to acknowledge that this response is a rational one.”

These anxieties are no more rational than the threats from climate change are existential. A more apt term for such fear is climate hypochondria.

The New Yorker magazine earlier this month published a 4,400-word piece titled “What to Do With Climate Emotions” by Jia Tolentino, a woman in the throes of such neurosis. “It may be impossible to seriously consider the reality of climate change for longer than ninety seconds without feeling depressed, angry, guilty, grief-stricken, or simply insane,” Ms. Tolentino writes.

“A couple of years ago, reading a climate report on my phone in the early hours of the morning, I went into a standard-issue emotional spiral thinking about it all,” she recalls. “We had also recently had a baby, whose carbon footprint likely already exceeded that of entire villages in Burundi. I was playing whack-a-mole with my consumer desires.”

Ms. Tolentino goes on to describe how climate therapists can help patients cope. “The goal is not to resolve the intrusive feeling and put it away” but, as one therapist advises her, “to aim for a middle ground of sustainable distress.” Even the climate left’s despair must be “sustainable.”

It isn’t difficult to notice that today’s snowflakes consider hot weather aberrant, similar to how they perceive normal feelings such as anxiety or sadness. But there’s nothing normal about climate anxiety, despite the left’s claims to the contrary.
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Progressives may even use climate change to displace their other anxieties—for instance, about having children. A mental-health reporter for Vox recently wrote about climate stress, and how “some people even grapple with the existential question of whether to have children because of the human toll on the planet’s resources.”

Displacement is a maladaptive mechanism by which people redirect negative emotions from one thing to another. Ms. Tolentino relates how one patient she interviewed realized through deep reflection that “he’d sometimes used climate anxiety as a container for his own, more intimate problems.”

Climate hypochondriacs deserve to be treated with compassion, much like anyone who suffers from mental illness. They shouldn’t, however, expect everyone else to enable their neuroses.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 10:28 pm

Or should have been six wickets in the shed..

That mungbean Stokes didn’t control the pill before he smacked it with his knee and grassed it.

Rangas. They’ll disappoint you every time.

MatrixTransform
July 31, 2023 10:29 pm

in the name of ‘saving’ the forum

… are you working it out yet ?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 10:34 pm

I dunno.
I just shit my dacks.
I’m just not used to being in the presence of a God Oracle.
It’s pretty scary.
I mean, we’ve all seen the odd Oracle, and some claim to have had apparitions of God.
But a God Oracle all in one go?
Just too much.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 10:37 pm

Oh, and has anyone got some high quality building site banter for me?
The plumber is coming tomorrow and he loves good banter.
I just can’t do it right, though.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 10:41 pm

I just can’t do it right

Youse wouldn’t get it

haven’t worked it out

told youse

now go and buy some striped paint and a skyhook

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 10:41 pm

Oh, and has anyone got some high quality building site banter for me?
The plumber is coming tomorrow and he loves good banter.
I just can’t do it right, though.

Engage him in a discussion about waterproofing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 10:43 pm

Youse wouldn’t get it

haven’t worked it out

told youse

Oh, stop it you.
I just shit my pants again.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 10:43 pm

Yes, you.

Huh, but isn’t it you? Blowharding, bignoting, bullshitting, being a fraud, making strange assertions and then getting bitchy about being asked to provide a few crumbs of evidence. Even one crumb.

It will.

In an ideal world, shouldn’t that read as, “It has”. That is, you have provided evidence for your assertion?

You’ll think of more apt words – your people skills & good manners will guide you to some appropriate terminology.

Have you ever tried self awareness? Of course you haven’t because a lonely old psychopath doesn’t.

You haven’t got what it takes.

Perhaps, but you should try your own “pub test” and come down south. Start the blowharding and bignoting bullshit and when those strangers don’t believe your nonsense, try out the dago reply. It would work. As I said, you’d have a boot going up your arse, it would hang out of your mouth as you arrived back at the Queersland, before you could say, “help mummy”

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 10:47 pm

Huh, but isn’t it you? Blowharding, bignoting, bullshitting8, being a fraud8, ….

*Citations required.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 10:49 pm

As I said, you’d have a boot going up your arse,

You haven’t got what it takes.

You’ve initiated talk of personal violence, and doubled down by alluding to it multiple times. Are you trying to get this blog noticed?

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 10:49 pm

Trans

The sincere altruism just oozes.

I can see it now. You have the beard so don’t worry about that. There’s the white linen tunic and we improvise on the Yarra. Lots of loaves and fishes.

MatrixTransform
July 31, 2023 10:50 pm

listen to these clowns.

they cant do or say anything useful or thoughtful

it’s all just derivative self-referential gibber.

a broken record

…are you working it out yet?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 10:52 pm

Bruce Lehrmann will lodge a multimillion-dollar compensation claim against the ACT Office of the DPP as likely serious adverse findings loom against chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold

Any chance of the ACT Shire Council burying the Sofronoff report permanently just evaporated.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 10:52 pm

listen to these clowns.

they cant do or say anything useful or thoughtful

They’re noted for many things.
Edifying comments are not among those things.

It’s like I’ve logged into a Barbie group.

I’ve seen more maturity exhibited by a yard full of speyed cows.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 10:53 pm

You’ve initiated talk of personal violence,

How cute is this.

1.

You haven’t got what it takes.

2.

You haven’t got what it takes.

3.

Use your people skills on the ensuing …er… situation. Call ’em a few names, like you do in here – should work?

Only after you, Cowboy.

You’ve been triggered again, now shoo. Go tend the bedding in the motel.

MatrixTransform
July 31, 2023 10:53 pm

… have they flogged themselves out yet ?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 10:54 pm

listen to these clowns.

they cant do or say anything useful or thoughtful

it’s all just derivative self-referential gibber.

a broken record

…are you working it out yet?

that was very thoughtful

and very useful

top stuff

not gibber

thanks

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 10:55 pm

JC Jul 31, 2023 10:53 PM

And that is the big mouth backpedalling.

Long overdue.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 10:55 pm

it’s all just derivative self-referential gibber.

Trans, stop using words out of context. Derivative? Of what, you idiot. What’s it doorivatiff of?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 10:58 pm

they cant do or say anything useful or thoughtful

You mean like:

worked it out yet

or

flogged themselves out yet

The lack of god oracle respect here really is astounding.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 10:58 pm

Hey Sal.
Did you see the latest polling on public figures in the UK?
Prince Andrew is popular with 13% of the population.
It seems his under-age drilling isn’t as popular as some might imagine.
13%.
That’s pretty low.
Although, to be fair, not the worst.
The Yorkshire Ripper is on 9% and Jimmy Saville on 11%.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 10:59 pm

The lack of god oracle respect here really is astounding.

I’m confused, does that mean nobody has groganed in their duds yet?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:00 pm

The lack of god oracle respect here really is astounding.

I know.
It gives me the shits.
Again.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:01 pm

Hey Sal.
Did you see the latest polling on public figures in the UK?

Crikey, that’s not genre I’ve ever paid any attention to*, or was even aware of.

(* nor am I ever likely to)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:02 pm

The lack of god oracle respect here really is astounding.

Speaking of which … it is capital “G” and capital “O”.
God Oracle.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 11:02 pm

Hundreds of years from now, historians will conclude that the failure to recognise the genius of control panel switch manipulators resulted in the fall of western civilisation.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 11:05 pm

Drills

Did you read the comment I made earlier, paraphrasing you : Prince Andrew will shine through the Epstein entanglement and be more popular than ever, and was without doubt, one of the worst predictions ever made on an Ozblog.

It would be nice, thoughtful and well mannered of you to apologize for this appalling prediction. Another example of massive blowharding gone wrongsky. In fact I’m beginning to think your second name is Wrongsky as in Driller or Sal Wrongsky

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:06 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican

Jul 31, 2023 11:01 PM

Hey Sal.
Did you see the latest polling on public figures in the UK?

Crikey, that’s not genre I’ve ever paid any attention to*, or was even aware of.

Well, maybe you should.
Do you think Prince Andrew is on his way back?
Surely the Firm will forgive and forget, eh?
I mean, a 14 million pound compo payout wouldn’t sour things would it?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:06 pm

Who is “Drills”?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:08 pm

Well, maybe you should.

No.

Do you think Prince Andrew is on his way back?

His way back to where?
Why does he interest you so?

You may not be up to date, Chilla is the King.
(Happy to help)

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 11:08 pm

Who is “Drills”?

Citation required?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:09 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Jul 31, 2023 11:02 PM

Hundreds of years from now, historians will conclude that the failure to recognise the genius of control panel switch manipulators resulted in the fall of western civilisation.

very droll

and derivative

writing code to switch off at max temp and on at min temp

v hard

and flipping baffles for air flow

tough as man

ai will never replace it

MatrixTransform
July 31, 2023 11:09 pm

… still not flogged out yet?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:11 pm

… still not flogged out yet?

They may have changed hands.

Alamak!
July 31, 2023 11:13 pm

I’m sensing a little free-floating angst, perhaps even aggression. Did something unpleasant happen here today?

Indolent
Indolent
July 31, 2023 11:15 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:16 pm

Why does he interest you so?

Because of claims made here that his forays into little girls undies would not put a dint in his popularity.
Quite the contrary.
We were assured that red-blooded males would think he was a top bloke.
And here we are.
The Firm has had to cut a cheque for gazillions in compo and legals.
He is less popular than syphilis.
And he is now the Chief Deer Counter in the top paddock at Balmoral to keep him out of sight.
Travelling beautifully.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 11:16 pm

KD

I have to say, that has been one of the best performances I’ve seen in quite a while. Man, you have talent. Not quite God Oracle talent of course. You can’t beat building site quick lip.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:17 pm

I’m sensing a little free-floating angst, perhaps even aggression. Did something unpleasant happen here today?

Dunno Alamak.
I just got here & yeah, there’s some angst from the yobbos in the cheap seats.

We’d have to scroll back to see what’s put the noogoora under their saddlecloth.
Let us know what you find.

Jorge
Jorge
July 31, 2023 11:17 pm

The Yorkshire Ripper is on 9% and Jimmy Saville on 11%.

Any word on Rolf ?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:18 pm

Why does he interest you so?

Because of claims made here that his forays into little girls undies would not put a dint in his popularity.

Fascinating.

Do you have a reference (i.e. citation) for him making forays into “little girls” undies?
Or are you trying to get this blog noticed?

Indolent
Indolent
July 31, 2023 11:18 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:18 pm

Jorge

Jul 31, 2023 11:17 PM

The Yorkshire Ripper is on 9% and Jimmy Saville on 11%.

Any word on Rolf ?

Rolf is neck-and-neck with Prince Andrew.
Which makes a lot of sense.
Birds of a feather.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2023 11:21 pm

The problem with Bazzball is that sure it is a slog fest, but what is the equivalent with the ball .

The beauty of Bazball is that it frees up plenty of time for rain breaks.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:22 pm

Do you have a reference (i.e. citation) for him making forays into “little girls” undies?

Yes.
The Firm paid out (ahem) … a King’s Ransom … to settle just such a case.
It has been reported widely in the press world-wide, so there is precisely zero legal danger in mentioning it.

John H.
John H.
July 31, 2023 11:23 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Jul 31, 2023 11:02 PM
Hundreds of years from now, historians will conclude that the failure to recognise the genius of control panel switch manipulators resulted in the fall of western civilisation.

Today I had to go to control panel in Windows 11 to trim my SSDs because for some reason that isn’t happening automatically even though I ticked the box. Microsoft is the beginning of the end!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:24 pm

The Firm paid out (ahem) … a King’s Ransom … to settle just such a case.
It has been reported widely in the press world-wide, so there is precisely zero legal danger in mentioning it.

Settling privately = a full admission of guilt?

You sure you want to run with this?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 31, 2023 11:24 pm

To give the Poms credit, though, they have played like Aussies imagine they play, and have single-handedly revived interest in Test Crickit.
We haven’t seen anyone bat like that since Adam Gilchrist.

We’ve got a … Watto … on the phone.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 11:25 pm

Settling privately = a full admission of guilt?

You sure you want to run with this?

Oh God.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 31, 2023 11:27 pm

Raining in England. Once again.

Farter time. Just before that, though – anecdote o’clock.

I have worked on sites as a brickie’s labourer, a builder’s labourer and the hardest work of them all, a plumber’s labourer – both in country Vicco and the larger city-towns.

On each site, from time to time, a ‘god oracle’ type would appear – usually after the actual work had been done. This was invariably a fat dude with a stringy beard who wouldn’t shut his trap from the moment he left the ute until he got back in it 45 minutes later after doing five minutes of work and regaling everyone within earshot about his magnificence.

He’d been everywhere, and done everything. Knew all the tricks. Knew ‘influential people’. Had the inside running on what was what. A big picture, ideas man.

After telling everyone – regardless of trade – what they’d been doing wrong, and while standing around usually with a durrie hanging out of the gob, he’d have a look inside all the eskies on site for free beer before eventually leaving.

Unknownst to the god oracle type, he was universally regarded as a cockhead by everyone else, and subject to considerable ridicule after he left.

Just goes to show. Times change, but people never do.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:27 pm

Today I had to go to control panel in Windows 11 to trim my SSDs because for some reason that isn’t happening automatically even though I ticked the box. Microsoft is the beginning of the end!

Microsoft takes ticked boxes as a serving suggestion only.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:28 pm

Oh God.

You called?

Pogria
Pogria
July 31, 2023 11:35 pm

Hi Sal,
do you think the Sao has finally been covered, or is it simply nap time for Bill and Ben? 😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:36 pm

On each site, from time to time, a ‘god oracle’ type would appear – usually after the actual work had been done. This was invariably a fat dude with a stringy beard who wouldn’t shut his trap from the moment he left the ute until he got back in it 45 minutes later after doing five minutes of work and regaling everyone within earshot about his magnificence.

I had one here recently.
I employed a brickie for my insurance job.
One day his nemesis – Gazza, the self proclaimed best brickie in the West – turns up and spends half an hour telling us how much he was making, how many thousand bricks he could lay in a week, picking non-existent faults with the way my bloke was attacking the job, yada, yada.
Later that day the renderer dropped by.
My brickie (man of few words says), “Was talking to Gazza earlier.
(Pause)
Well, truth be told, actually I was listening to Gazza.”
They both laughed.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 11:38 pm

Indolent

Ford actually went past earnings expectations by reporting income of 70 odd cents a share.

The market expects Ford and other to lose money on the EV side as they uptool for this segment.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:38 pm

Pogria Jul 31, 2023 11:35 PM

Hi Sal,
do you think the Sao has finally been covered, or is it simply nap time for Bill and Ben? ?

To paraphrase the great one & only Zulu Kilo Two Alpha, that’s a new keyboard & a flask of fine Parisian Earl Grey you owe me.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:41 pm

Settling privately = a full admission of guilt?

To a civil standard, totally.
14 million quids worth of totally.

You sure you want to run with this?

Absolutely.
Now mummy has been carted down The Mall on the gun carriage, Randy Andy isn’t suing anyone.
Especially not for the underage girl trafficking stuff.
And I think he has drawn his last bail-out from The Firm’s coffers.

Pogria
Pogria
July 31, 2023 11:46 pm

Sal, I’m quite fond of Earl Grey.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:47 pm

You sure you want to run with this?

Absolutely.

You’ve never been involved in litigation.
Lucky you.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 11:48 pm

You’ve never been involved in litigation.
Lucky you.

The Lived Experience top 40 on the charts

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 31, 2023 11:48 pm

Check out the Daily Mail article about all future VIC schools will have Aboriginal names. Major brainwashing so the kids know who owns the land.

Alamak!
July 31, 2023 11:49 pm

And I think he has drawn his last bail-out from The Firm’s coffers.

He is becoming Miss Haversham of the home counties and will be sighted every five years or so during some rainy carpark opening if he behaves

He is 1000% farked, in other words.

MatrixTransform
July 31, 2023 11:51 pm

there we go
seems the flogging has abated to relatively normal level again

low traffic?
lack of commentators?
contributors can’t be bothered?

…you working it out yet?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:51 pm

Bourne1879 Jul 31, 2023 11:48 PM
Check out the Daily Mail article about all future VIC schools will have Aboriginal names. Major brainwashing so the kids know who owns the land.

That’s quite some optimism there – do they have any basis for assuming the population is going to stick around in the state-of-oppression & breed?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:54 pm

He is becoming Miss Haversham of the home counties and will be sighted every five years or so during some rainy carpark opening if he behaves

He is 1000% farked, in other words.

Not even car park ribbon cutting.
Counting the deer at Balmoral is his thing for the next ten years, at least.
His movements might be curtailed somewhat anyway.
He would be very, very foolish to even think about traveling to the US.
What odds a sealed indictment awaits should he set foot in the US?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 31, 2023 11:54 pm

Sal, I’m quite fond of Earl Grey.

Hmm. I’ve never acquired the taste for it.
Parisian Earl Grey really should be named “French Blue” (& sometimes is) it has no claim (thankfully) to the name “Earl Grey”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 31, 2023 11:57 pm

low traffic?
lack of commentators?
contributors can’t be bothered?

Well, liven things up with a bit of worksite banter, God Oracle.
Doesn’t have to be your best material.
Just a bit of warm-up stuff.
Come on.
You know you want to.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 11:57 pm

Not even car park ribbon cutting.
Counting the deer at Balmoral is his thing for the next ten years, at least.
His movements might be curtailed somewhat anyway.
He would be very, very foolish to even think about traveling to the US.
What odds a sealed indictment awaits should he set foot in the US?

I recently read big bro threw him out of his big house and into a cottage like home.

JC
JC
July 31, 2023 11:58 pm

Trans, you’re so judgy this evening.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 1, 2023 12:01 am

OK, let’s talk about summink interesting.
How about HVAC PLC programming?
That should sell.

MatrixTransform
August 1, 2023 12:02 am

sorry …seems like there’s still quiet a bit of wank left in the wankers yet

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:04 am

sorry …seems like there’s still quiet a bit of wank left in the wankers yet

Let’s hope they’re just changing hands from left to right, & not playing doubles.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 1, 2023 12:04 am

I recently read big bro threw him out of his big house and into a cottage like home.

I think Randy Andy didn’t have anything like the ready cash to pay the girl out.
That would be a way of King Chuck taking it out of his hide.
Hey, I wonder if Randy fell below the minimum balance at Coutts and got turfed, like Nigel?

JC
JC
August 1, 2023 12:06 am

sorry …seems like there’s still quiet a bit of wank left in the wankers yet

…you working it out yet?

Pogria
Pogria
August 1, 2023 12:06 am

I don’t mind French Earl Grey, a little too floral though, so I blend it with straight Earl Grey. As Goldilocks says, just right.

Seems the Flowerpot Men have had their Ribena and are refreshed.

JC
JC
August 1, 2023 12:07 am

I think Randy Andy didn’t have anything like the ready cash to pay the girl out.
That would be a way of King Chuck taking it out of his hide.
Hey, I wonder if Randy fell below the minimum balance at Coutts and got turfed, like Nigel?

He sold his chalet in Switzerland for a decent sum, but not sure it made up for it.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:09 am

…you working it out yet?

Why, what did you shove in?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:12 am

I don’t mind French Earl Grey, a little too floral though, so I blend it with straight Earl Grey. As Goldilocks says, just right.

I’ll go with that. Thanks for the tip.
I’ll use it to extend any Earl Grey I end up with. I’m too cheap to actually toss any tea, even if it may not be precisely to taste.

JC
JC
August 1, 2023 12:13 am

Sancho Panzer
Aug 1, 2023 12:01 AM

OK, let’s talk about summink interesting.
How about HVAC PLC programming?
That should sell.

Good idea.

I never understood this one.
We had Google HVAC Thermo wall units called Nests installed in the US. I can’t understand why Google would enter that sort of market. What’s possibly in it for them? It’s really neat, I can control the temps from here.

Pogria
Pogria
August 1, 2023 12:14 am

Sal,
as the constipated Clerk said, “I think I’ll work this one out with a pencil”.

MatrixTransform
August 1, 2023 12:14 am

when Pinocchio wanks
does he get splinters?

JC
JC
August 1, 2023 12:15 am

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Aug 1, 2023 12:09 AM

…you working it out yet?

Why, what did you shove in?

You’re such a little bitch at times, Drillsie.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:15 am

Andy Pandy sold his continental shack for 20 million quid, & paid 12 million to the little slapper.
He’s now regretting this & was last heard of considering his options re clawing it back.

To enter the deal in the first place he was either a supreme dumbass, badly advised, or totally & completely inexperienced in such matters & badly, very badly, misled by the bowler hats – possibly with Mu-mah subtly prodding him in the wrong direction.

Nobody cares much anyway.

JC
JC
August 1, 2023 12:16 am

MatrixTransform
Aug 1, 2023 12:14 AM

when Pinocchio wanks
does he get splinters?

…you working it out yet?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:17 am

You’re such a little bitch at times

Whoops, a bit of the pillow talk between Heckle & Jeckle has made it out onto the blog.

Discretion, please – we’re not that interested in what you two get up to. Just make sure you remember whose turn it is to wear the pyjama shorts back-to-front.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 1, 2023 12:18 am

He sold his chalet in Switzerland for a decent sum, but not sure it made up for it.

Apparently worth 18 million quid.
But split 50:50 with Fergie, and mortgaged big-time.
Reported he might have netted 5 mill out of that.
I am guessing The Firm tipped in 10 meg minimum.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:18 am

as the constipated Clerk said, “I think I’ll work this one out with a pencil”.

Alas he couldn’t budget.

Pogria
Pogria
August 1, 2023 12:18 am

Matrix,
your Pinocchio question placed a picture in my mind of two grown men tugging each others noses and wondering why they “cant get no, satisfaction”. 😀

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:20 am

Reported he might have netted 5 mill out of that.
I am guessing The Firm tipped in 10 meg minimum.

He’s rooted then.
Pheasant & game patrol at Balmoral is his gig for life.
He shouldn’t complain, millions are worse off & would swap with him in a heartbeat.
Plus he’s still got his health, the bracing country air will be a tonic for his bitterness.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:21 am

Yo, bignose, are you sure you’re doing it right? Errors are understandable when the nose is the longest appendage ye’ve got.

Pogria
Pogria
August 1, 2023 12:22 am

Alas he couldn’t budget.

snork! There goes my keyboard.

MatrixTransform
August 1, 2023 12:22 am

Derivative? Of what, you idiot

LoL … led by the nose JC … you are such a stupid fkn bull

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 1, 2023 12:23 am

Andy Pandy sold his continental shack for 20 million quid, & paid 12 million

Not quite correct sums there champ.

to the little slapper.

Are you sure you want to go there?
I mean, she lives in North Queensssland and, who knows, she might fancy owning a back-packers.
If the freehold was yours to lose, that is.

JC
JC
August 1, 2023 12:25 am

Hey Driller

Earlier this year, I read a piece sent to me, that talked about litigation between a motel owner and the health department. The motel owner hired a law firm to get him out of the quagmire. He basically folded like a cheap tent and accepted all the terms and conditions set by the health authorities. By the sounds of it, one would put their lives at risk staying in the infested dump and better off living in the turd infested street in SF. Would that mean the motel was accepting guilt in running a filthy dump? Thoughts?

Did you hear about this sordid story?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:26 am

Not quite correct sums there champ.

Scroll up, champ.

I mean, she lives in North Queensssland and, who knows, she might fancy owning a back-packers.
If the freehold was yours to lose, that is.

Please explain, champ.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 1, 2023 12:27 am

so derivative

mongs

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:27 am

Hey Driller

Who is “Driller”?

JC
JC
August 1, 2023 12:28 am

If the freehold was yours to lose, that is.

On his old blog, he said he owned the leasehold. Here, he reckons he’s the landowner. Go figure.

JC
JC
August 1, 2023 12:30 am

Who is “Driller”?

Motel owner, who you appear to know quite well.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:32 am

Motel owner, who you appear to know quite well.

Time to change hands again.
I’ve no idea who you may mean.
Unless recollection fails me, I know only one motel owner, & that is a very arm’s length relationship, I haven’t seen or heard of him in more than 10 years.

Much as I’d like to help, I’m unable to.

John H.
John H.
August 1, 2023 12:37 am

Low-Fat Diets and Low-Carbohydrate Diets – The Secret to a Longer Life?

Huge prospective study. Study is open access and linked. Haven’t read it so won’t discuss it.

JC
JC
August 1, 2023 12:47 am

John H

Are magnesium tablets good for you?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 1, 2023 12:53 am

Did you hear about this sordid story?

No. Tell us more.
This isn’t the first case of a Victorian moving to mighty Qld & bringing their Danistan ethics with them.
It won’t be the last either, alas.

John H.
John H.
August 1, 2023 1:32 am

JC
Aug 1, 2023 12:47 AM
John H

Are magnesium tablets good for you?

Lot of evidence to suggest helpful. Clear correlation between magnesium status and longevity. Trick is finding the right supplement because so many give us the runs and are poorly absorbed. Mg citrate is apparently very good. Mg threonate is often regarded as the best. Mg taurate is my favourite because topping up the amino acid taurine is also a good idea.

Finding a trusted brand is a hassle. JC I purchase supplements from iHerb. I don’t use supplements on a regular basis but I have been taking Mg for 20 years.

We don’t need to take it every day but maintaining good Mg status is very important.

https://healthnews.com/nutrition/vitamins-and-supplements/magnesium-types-and-benefits/

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 1, 2023 3:17 am

Sorry KD.
No Murphy miracle.
Gone for 18.
9 down.
54 to get.
Hazlewood and Carey.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 1, 2023 3:27 am

And that is it.
Engerland win by 50 runs.

Tom
Tom
August 1, 2023 4:15 am

After going off prematurely yesterday, finally: happy birthday racehorsies!

(Day 4, virtual internet jail. Thanks, Telstra. Hooefully, it gets fixed today)

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 1, 2023 6:39 am

RFK Jr will be live with Jimmy Dore this morning.
You can stream via youtube or watch the lot later on Rumble.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 1, 2023 6:40 am

Youtube seems to be ok with a lot of live streams as long as they aren’t later uploaded to the channel.
I’m sure it’s a loop hole that will be shut down closer to the 2024 election.

calli
calli
August 1, 2023 6:41 am

KD is right about plumber’s labourer being the hardest work. Dig ups and pipe clearance, often in difficult conditions and impossible sites. And stinky also.

With landscape, you’re usually doing so much renovation and damage you can get machines in, even narrow access ones. Brickies’ labouring is repetitive, mix the mud, carry the mud, stack the bricks, lift the boards, rinse and repeat.

On God Oracling…who has usurped my position? The cheek!

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 1, 2023 6:46 am

I was planning on watching the girls play Canada, but for some reason I thought it was tonight.
As I didn’t watch it I can not comment on the tactics employed.
Were the Aussies that good, or were the Canadians that bad?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 1, 2023 6:51 am

Indonesian president getting the red carpet treatment in China.
Indonesia bans live beef imports from a handful of Australian suppliers.
I am sure the two are unrelated.
I am also sure the US subs are going to be worth every penny and all Australians will benefit, not just a range of former politicians getting employed by US defence contractors or the consultancy ecosystem.

calli
calli
August 1, 2023 6:53 am

I see the papers have England “winning by losing” again.

Australia retains the Ashes. The End.

Vicki
Vicki
August 1, 2023 6:59 am

Authorities are trying to work out what happened to the tragic loss of the Taipan helicopter. Maybe they should ask the crew of the Chinese ship which has been spying on the exercises off the QLD coast.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 1, 2023 7:00 am

If Lyon was available it would have been a comfortable 3-1.
Bazball is a good spinner’s wet dream.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 1, 2023 7:05 am

Were the Aussies that good, or were the Canadians that bad?

I take it the Aussies won. Bugger! If they had lost, we would have heard no more of the World Cup.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 1, 2023 7:12 am

Australia retains the Ashes. The End.

Well, yes. However:

That last Test in particular signalled a team plateaued for some time, and that is about to go into decline.

An aging pair of openers, of whom neither will see a Test two years from now, a mentally fragile number 3 and an ex-skipper at 4 showing signs of going into a Joe Burns-esque slump at the end of his own career.

Two of the stable of four pace bowlers are now cotton-woolled and rotated to stop them snapping in half, and an ‘old man’ injury to the best off-spinner in the world who will consequently never be at his best again.

As icing on the Imminent Failure Cake, there is also a fast bowler as captain without the wherewithal to adequately skipper a team that fires on five or six cylinders, because he hasn’t had to do anything when they charge ahead on all eight – which are becoming increasingly rare occasions.

Travis Head will be the next skipper. Start building a team around him, Green, Marsh, Carey (for the moment) and Murphy, and start building it now.

Whether they retained the Ashes or not – you can’t chase 150 runs with seven wickets in hand, then lose 6/70 while failing to do it and still hold your heads up.

Vicki
Vicki
August 1, 2023 7:22 am

A cracker of a column by Greg Sheridan in the Oz this morning. He savages Defence the government for its decision not to revamp our defence capability in any meaningful way. It is flags a devastating state of helplessness in the face of a militant China.

Cassie of Sydney
August 1, 2023 7:27 am

I am an oracle……about some things!

sfw
sfw
August 1, 2023 7:28 am

Quadrant are promoting a Youtube video on ev’s by John Cadogan, it’s good, trouble with John is the promo pic on the image for all his videos, he has one eye screwed up and looks like a wanker.

If he spoke a little better and looked less like he just got out of bed, I’m sure his subscriber base would grow. I know that I’m not the only one to think this, it’s a pity but I just can’t stand the sight of him on the promo’s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9-mW-cmdE&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo

Crossie
Crossie
August 1, 2023 7:33 am

feelthebern
Aug 1, 2023 6:46 AM
I was planning on watching the girls play Canada, but for some reason I thought it was tonight.
As I didn’t watch it I can not comment on the tactics employed.
Were the Aussies that good, or were the Canadians that bad?

I don’t watch on purpose because I’m a jinx, noted on many occasions. Whenever I watch a game or a match the team or player I support loses. When I change channels and check later they have won or are winning. So obviously I didn’t watch last night.

calli
calli
August 1, 2023 7:44 am

KD, I appreciate your crickit expertise and agree with the team decline. They’ve held on to duds for far too long, like an ageing dowager pretending that a brighter shade of lipstick will hide the wrinkles.

My objection was with the “every child deserves a prize” mentality.

And another thing…at least the Americans had the decency to surrender the Auld Mug to the PYC all those years ago.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 1, 2023 8:05 am

A one line news story.
Vegan Influencer Starves To Death.

billie
billie
August 1, 2023 8:07 am

Vicki, He savages Defence the government for its decision not to revamp our defence capability in any meaningful way.

Our defence force is just there to provide a framework should we need to scale up for actual warfare. It has too many holes to be effective with the number of troops we have, regardless of the weapons system they are supplied with.

We have the worst recruitment and retention probems in the lifetime of our armed forces. So much so, our men and women are allowed, nay, encouraged to flit from one role to another .. just as long as they stay in. That leaves the services with a lack of depth, no one becomes truly expert before they move off to do something more interesting till that bores them. You become a “man manager” in the Army now at rank of Corporal, or in the navy, Petty Officer, and are no longer “hands on” whatever task you are in. Our actual practitioners of the skills are low rank and only doing it for a couple of years, till they become managers or move to another area to start over. (that’s part of the retention program by the way)

Note, nearly all the training is done by contractors these days, by crusty highly skilled old people who gained experience the old way of spending their service life in one niche area.

Airforce? Our Airforce just wants to be the US Airforce when it grows up. Do they do anything here apart from the absolute bare minimum? They garner the majority of defence funding because they put their smart people in Canberra to do exactly that. Army is always the loser because they put their best out there leading people, their dropouts get to go to office jobs.

The most sought after role in the RAAF is not on this continent, it is as an exchange person to the USA.

If it comes to war, were not going to project naval power, way too small and it would be all over in minutes.

We will have to defend, with a poor Army and top of the range air power, that should last an hour or so given the state of anti air defence the Chinese and Russians have built while we squandered our investment in high tech toys. The project disasters just keep coming, with zero repurcussions for the public service procurement people in Canberra.

Don’t get me started!

shatterzzz
August 1, 2023 8:08 am

Gotta luv the Left ..!
A eulogy for sTan & he ain’t even exited the building!
If your into sob stories dun wiv true luv .. click!….. if you ain’t scroll on by …… LOL!
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/stan-grant-and-i-have-different-views-but-australia-has-silenced-another-indigenous-voice/ar-AA1ezraD?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=72090329651f497d8ea684715d39c190&ei=41

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 1, 2023 8:11 am

RPYC please calli.

Rosie
Rosie
August 1, 2023 8:13 am

Does this mean if the Liberal party got voted in again in Victoria native forest logging could return?

Labor’s destruction of the Victorian timber industry threatens forests

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2023 8:15 am

I see the papers have England “winning by losing” again.

It’s a moral victory.

You’ll find the conditions in the MCC rulebook under ‘Spirit of Cricket.’

But you’d have to be English to parse it in that manner.

Rosie
Rosie
August 1, 2023 8:15 am
sfw
sfw
August 1, 2023 8:17 am

Rosie, if the Libs were somehow placed in power in Vic tomorrow, they wouldn’t change any of Dan’s laws or policies. They would be stopping gas, stopping logging and carrying out all of Dan’s projects. I truly can’t think of any area where they would be better.
The only thing that can help Victoria is a new party or a complete cleanout of the Liberal Party, the executive and all the politicians and replace with people with strength, courage and principles.

sfw
sfw
August 1, 2023 8:18 am

Meant ‘Wouldn’t be stopping’ not would, sorry.

Rosie
Rosie
August 1, 2023 8:18 am
Rosie
Rosie
August 1, 2023 8:19 am
Roger
Roger
August 1, 2023 8:19 am

Tesltra harassing dead people, or rather their bereaved loved ones.

Are Australian corporate executives bereft of decency or just plain dumb (or both)?

shatterzzz
August 1, 2023 8:20 am

The nanny state strikes! .. Let’s ban ALL tractors, not just oldies .. back to the horse & plough .. ya knoze ya wantz too .. safety first! .. LOL!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-01/old-tractor-ban-recommended-after-death-of-father-and-son/102670386

Rosie
Rosie
August 1, 2023 8:23 am

The army, based on my observations treats low ranks like rubbish.
Poor quality housing in high rent locations, rubbish pay, moving from state to state putting enormous pressure on families
I wouldn’t recommend it as a career.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 1, 2023 8:25 am

He is facing cancellation amirite? Daily Telegraph:

ABC journalist Stephen Dziedzic has been caught sharing his thoughts on colleagues and describing Sky News’ Sharri Markson as “a pit bull” and “unhinged”.

Offering his unplugged views on colleagues, the ABC reporter also discusses with colleagues the ABC’s new “hardworking” Q&A host Patricia Karvelas in an embarrassing hot mic incident beamed into newsrooms across Australia.

The incident occurred over the weekend as a group of journalists gathered for a press conference with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles and Foreign Minister Penny Wong.

But what the group of journalists didn’t realise was that the microphones caught their unplugged views on ABC management and journalistic colleagues and beamed the commentary on colleagues and political leaders into multiple newsrooms.

In the hot mic tape that is now being discussed throughout the media industry, Dziedzic, who is the ABC’s foreign affairs correspondent, The Australian’s foreign affairs and defence correspondent Ben Packham and The Sydney Morning Herald’s foreign affairs reporter Matthew Knott discuss colleagues and political figures.

Packham observes that Sky News’ Walkley-award winning Markson has written another front-page exclusive in The Weekend Australian on the origins of Covid and the lab leak theory.

“Amazingly, she is looking more and more like she’s … right,” Packham observes.

But Dziedzic then weighs in with a string of slurs about the Sky News host.

“She’s like a pit bull and she’s so unhinged but yet she might still be right,” Dziedzic chuckles.

At that point Knott chimes in that the origin of Covid is “definitely unresolved” but it was suspicious

“You can be unhinged and still be right,” Dziedzic laughs.

“How does she know it’s not a bat?” Knott laughs in response.

Dziedzic then suggests Markson “wouldn’t really know”.

“She doesn’t know, no one does,” Dziedzic says.

“But the location is extremely suspicious. You don’t want to let the Chinese off the hook,” Knott replies.

Dziedzic then concedes that he “remembers being super dismissive of that”.

“That it was the most unhinged thing ever,” Dziedzic says. “I was overly influenced by the fact it was truly nasty, crazy people who were so deep down the rabbit hole. I probably didn’t look at it dispassionately enough.”

There’s more to come, seems like these blokes had a good chinwag.
Look for the non-apology apology where ‘he was taken out of context’ etc.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 1, 2023 8:25 am

Both Roger. Dead souls with management ‘degrees’

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 1, 2023 8:27 am

Billie I have an extended family member ex airforce who is now a contractor. Doesn’t go to the lunches nor dinners nor the trips overseas but in his sphere of influence they don’t do anything without his say-so. They haven’t a clue. Most people here will have come across the same thing everywhere they have worked.

johanna
johanna
August 1, 2023 8:32 am

shatterzz, that Tan Grant story was a hoot.

First, the author admits to having Tan envy because of his high profile.

Then, she complains that he was asking for Aborigines to get ‘the Australian dream’ (which, BTW, Tan has in spades), presumably because she wants them all living in gunyahs in the bush.

Finally, she admits to having some sympathy for him because he is now a victim of racism after he stomped off from Q&A.

FFS, who gets to announce that they will no longer perform their very well paid job and gets to sulk indefinitely on full pay? If that’s racism, millions of Australian workers would love to experience it.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 1, 2023 8:32 am
Roger
Roger
August 1, 2023 8:34 am

Dziedzic’s “hot mic” incident throws some light on the complacency and groupthink that prevails among ABC journalists.

BIRM.

shatterzzz
August 1, 2023 8:34 am

What a waste of education resources ..! we have kids entering HS who can’t read & write English but is the emphasis on teaching English important .. NO .. it’s, apparently, important to learn about a dead culture & their languages (all 251, I’m assuming) than English which is needed to get you thru your daily life ..
What is 251 ‘culture” other than a guide to how to do SFA for 60 000 years and then spend the next 250 years whingeing that it is all one bloke, Captain Cook’s fault ..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12356363/All-Victorias-new-public-schools-ditch-English-names-favour-Aboriginal-titles-bid-ensure-children-recognise-lands-traditional-owners.html

bons
bons
August 1, 2023 8:36 am

The demise of Defence was so visible. It commenced when the PS bribed senior officers with obscene salaries. Careerist conformity became the only pathway to the big bucks.
To prosper it was not sufficient to tolerate the PS destroying defence culture, they had to be active and agressive agents for the woke destruction.
Should we survive the coming holocaust, historians will devote volumes to attempting to understand how the Defence People Group could possibly have occurred.
The answer is obvious. Greed and an outdated career management system based upon patronage. The rot starts early. ADFA is a corporate poison that needs to be removed.

johanna
johanna
August 1, 2023 8:40 am

If you are interested in the origins of the ‘aunties’ and ‘uncles’ in the current version of Aboriginal history, Shy Ted has written an interesting post at Adam’s.

Dot
Dot
August 1, 2023 8:42 am

Imagine losing 3 years of your life and picking up a few thousand dollars of HELP debt for that. Gen Z deserves to get screwed.

They’ve been lied to their entire lives. Why do they deserve to be scammed!?

“That kid deserved irreversible gender reassignment and a likely future suicide!”

…?

Rosie
Rosie
August 1, 2023 8:44 am

If only Victorian traditional owners would agree about who were the traditional owners.

Dot
Dot
August 1, 2023 8:46 am

The army, based on my observations treats low ranks like rubbish.
Poor quality housing in high rent locations, rubbish pay, moving from state to state putting enormous pressure on families
I wouldn’t recommend it as a career.

I actively work as an anti recruiter, especially for young men.

After COVID mania and the “menstrual leave” ads with the girls on the APCs/IFVs, normality has had enough.

You would be very naive as a young man to join up. You’re just going to get screwed. Plus you are fighting for enslavement and second class citizenship.

No.

  1. Dover, I avoided the whole “who did what” to focus on the reaction to the 2 attacks. In both cases…

  2. He’d been hoping to move to Federal, so it sounds like the Libs told him nope. Good. He can rot…

  3. Just coming out of a fentanyl haze. That and other ‘twilight’ drugs carefully mixed by a friendly anesthetist. So not…

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