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Petrol pumping petrol when electric is out. Human ingenuity.
Thanks Tom.
My first comment, Imagine having the entire Western intelligence and security apparatus fixated on NK troops involved in combat on…
Lisa Benson.
ML, the nation is the “mob.”
Clans are family groups within the mob.
Top Ender, thanks for your travel reports, which are interesting. As you do, we find quite a few popular ports in cities are too touristy and often dirty and uninteresting. In such cases we often head for the local museum which is usually great, because these places have a wealth of history to unload and the collected remnants of it on display can’t be seen elsewhere. Or to cathedrals and churches, as these don’t change too much.
Interesting that your wife does different tours to you sometimes. We never do that, just try to settle on one of interest to both, or one of us will give way one time (me to military history or grand engineering feats) and the other gives way the next time (Hairy to my ancient obsessions). When I’ve travelled alone of course, I do my own thing. Doing separate tours is perhaps something we should consider, but somehow we like to stick together, perhaps in case of misadventure shared.
I think that the “mob” is a fairly recent invention cf: welcome to country. As a Stone Age Hunter gatherer society (Sorry Bruce), the clan was the building block of the society. Even in the West, the nation state is a comparatively recent development.
H B Bear
Aug 8, 2023 10:03 AM
The ACT is San Francisco but with worse weather, no views and no surf.
You sure about that? The water is cold, I’ll grant that. It is not at the top of the list.
The mobs are the “tribes” whose territory was defined by their dreaming stories connecting them to the land they traditionally occupied. They were recognised as discrete groups by the early settlers and explorers, not least because they often spoke a different language to other groups in a district.
The clans developed within the mob due to the exogamous marriage system determined by moiety/kinship.
Fairly recent finding:
The Connection Between Autism And The Gut Microbiome Is Clearer Than Ever (28 Jun)
One thing I’d be interested in is the prevalence of hypercleanliness and the lack of contact with dirt, which has a lot of interesting critters in it. Everyone knows young kids are prone to eating dirt, but there’s less and less of it about these days. And the rising hypercleanliness fetish might contribute to a distorted microbiome.
Cassie’s post at 9:44 captured the essence of Canberra. Anyone else is referred to VisitCanberra.gov.au .
Whilst I’m not negating Von Stauffenberg’s bravery in East Prussia in July 1944, it was too late and he knew and his fellow aristocrats knew it. The time to take Hitler out had long passed, that time was in the late 1930s however most of the old Prussian Junker and aristocratic classes, along with the military were all then big fans of Adolf, including Von Stauffenberg. Whilst they despised Hitler personally, and whilst they may not have joined the party, most were supporters of Hitler’s military conquests and his lebensborn. Almost all would have known what was being done to Jews, gypsies, and Slavs, and whilst they may not have liked it, they didn’t do anything. SS squads would immediately follow the Wermacht on the Eastern front. German soldiers, officers and generals often personally witnessed the massacres. It was only after the allied invasion in June 1944 that they moved on Hitler, because they knew the war was lost. In terms of German resistance to Hitler and the Nazis, what little there was chiefly occurred in the south of Germany, in Catholic Bavaria. I’d like to see a dramatisation of the White Rose….
The White Rose was a non-violent, intellectual resistance group in Nazi Germany which was led by five students and one professor at the University of Munich: Willi Graf, Kurt Huber, Christoph Probst, Alexander Schmorell, Hans Scholl and Sophie Scholl. The group conducted an anonymous leaflet and graffiti campaign that called for active opposition to the Nazi regime. Their activities started in Munich on 27 June 1942; they ended with the arrest of the core group by the Gestapo on 18 February 1943. They, as well as other members and supporters of the group who carried on distributing the pamphlets, faced show trials by the Nazi People’s Court (Volksgerichtshof); many of them were imprisoned and executed.
Hans and Sophie Scholl, as well as Christoph Probst were executed by guillotine four days after their arrest, on 22 February 1943. During the trial, Sophie interrupted the judge multiple times. No defendants were given any opportunity to speak.”
Mother Lode, there were no aboriginal ‘nations’ of this sort in pre-contact Australia. Local ‘hordes’ as they were named by anthropologists were lineage groups, what we might call extended families but often in one line, a patriline or a matriline, linked by marriage and other social relationships to other small hordes within ‘ranges’ for hunter-gathering determined by kinship rights. They had a common kin-based culture and language, but in some these groups could also be rather small and become self-contained, hence language drift. Much depended on the local ecology. When regional areas became involved there was a linkage of clans, groups holding to a common ancestry, divided into two, four or eight parts of descent (mostly in coastal and northern tropical areas). Some groups on occasion might gather in larger numbers for ‘increase’ ceremonies at times of seasonal bounty in one area, e.g. where and when grubs or moths were plentiful. The term mob became applied to these grouped clans in post-contact times to regional areas of European domicile where people felt they were of aligned clans, although this clan relationship was often very vague. After contact aboriginal individuals working on cattle and sheep stations tended to travel more widely and various kin groups would often be mixed. This happened a lot on the missions too.
There was never anything even vaguely resembling a nation or a polity. It was all extended kinship based and gerontocratic in organisation due to this. Local feuding was common. Old men could become powerful with many wives. Women were married according to genealogical relationships and there was fighting often over access to women. Arguments between men could be traditionally settled by hitting out at the woman as the cause of the problem.
The primal ‘Eve’ syndrome alive and well there.
Gaia will fix that for you Johanna. Be patient!
Pacific Ocean waves, surf getting bigger as climate warms, study says (4 Aug)
Somehow I don’t think Californians will be terrified by this horrendous report of warmer water and better surf. Kowabunga!
Called it!
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone.
– Sophie Scholl
The opposite of the Collective.
Thanks for reminding me, Cassie.
He’s referring to social media scraping of Ukrainian accounts referencing family or friends KIA or MIA since Feb ’22. The number being 284K.
Waves and surf along the California coast are getting bigger and taller because of global warming, a new study released this week suggests.
In fact, winter wave heights along the Golden State have risen by nearly a foot since 1970. And surf of at least 13 feet is becoming more common off the coast as the climate warms.
Meanwhile, on the Pacific coasts of Washington State and Oregon, the wave heights have not increased.
Only in California where the LSD, Coke and Weed hits harder.
Cassie, I have seen an historical reconstruction of The White Rose, one of those histories illustrated by players in key scenarios, either on Netflix or SBS, but not a major movie. The scene where Sophie Scholl is indicted by the most rabid of Nazi judges was well played, as was her farewell to her mother and father when in prison. Heartbreaking stuff, and it is often the young and idealistic who lose out the most.
Fey Von Hassell makes much of her Jewish sympathies and speaks of her time in Italy when married and living there as one of intense underground anti-Nazi activity in which her husband was deeply involved, and of her diplomat father’s disapproval of Hitler and Nazism from those earliest days, as a man of the Weimar period, when there was at least considerable disquiet about what was happening. And anti-Semitism was in the very air people breathed in Europe in the 1930’s, it pervaded all normal life and also invaded the thought of even the well-intentioned. The lessons of Covid show how easily a demagogue with a project can cause the most terrible damage to democratic institutions, leaving people feeling powerless about what to do to resist especially when an overpowering ideology says not to do so, you are suffering wrong-thought, and penalties apply. The Covid period showed once more how easily it could all be done.
Accusations of trolling are quite hurtful. My frequent exhortations of certain fellow contributors to raise their game for the overall quality of the blog is surely a demonstration of my bona fides .
Given the info available I’m guessing it’s more likely dad was responsible for those Russell Island deaths, if indeed it was murder.
Previous prison time for DV, wasn’t supposed to be in the house due to current DVO but amazingly fire occurred when he was there.
Alas this blog remains off the pace.
No-one is doing any Chamberlaining here.
Best to remember this is 2023 not 2019 .. an accusation is all that is required as proof of guilt post-BAT FLU …….
I’m surprised she hasn’t already been arrested, tried and executed .. after all several dayz have passed since the “meal” …….
Reasonable, maybe not the 1.4 million KIA Sputnik “News” implied earlier this month/end of last month.
Cassie, I will bring you my copy of Fey Von Hassell’s book. I would be interested in your opinion of it. It is obvious that her experiences are underwritten by aristocratic privilege but at the end she was lucky not to be blown up in a bus with her group of ‘kin of traitors’ prisoners because her sort of prisoner had become too difficult to hold, in spite of Himmler wishing to keep them alive to use as hostages to save his own skin.
The most common trigger for autism is
CENTRELINK ……..
I don’t regard Von Stauffenberg and his fellow conspirators as incredible heroes. They moved because they could see the writing on the wall. They wanted to orchestrate an honourable peace with the allies, but I’m sorry, Germany lost any honour in 1933. Von Stauffenberg became disillusioned as the war was turning.
Following the outbreak of war in 1939, Stauffenberg and his regiment took part in the Invasion of Poland. During this time, he was a strong supporter of Poland’s occupation, and the Nazi Party’s colonisation, exploitation and use of Pole slave workers to bring about German prosperity. This support was partially rooted in the belief common in the German aristocracy that the Eastern territories, populated predominantly by Poles but taken from the German Empire after World War I, should be colonised as the Teutonic Knights had done in the Middle Ages. Stauffenberg himself noted, “It is essential that we begin a systemic colonisation in Poland. But I have no fear that this will not occur”. After the Invasion, Stauffenberg’s unit was reorganised into the 6th Panzer Division, and he served as an officer on its General Staff in the Battle of France, for which he was awarded the Iron Cross First Class.
While his uncle, Nikolaus Graf von Üxküll-Gyllenband, together with Fritz-Dietlof von der Schulenburg, had approached Stauffenberg to join the resistance movement against the Hitler regime, it was only after the Polish campaign that Stauffenberg began to consider the offer. Peter Yorck von Wartenburg and Ulrich Schwerin von Schwanenfeld had urged him to become the adjutant of Walther von Brauchitsch, then Supreme Commander of the Army, to facilitate a coup against Hitler. Though, Stauffenberg declined at the time, reasoning that all German soldiers had pledged allegiance not to the institution of the presidency of the German Reich, but to the person of Adolf Hitler, due to the Führereid introduced in 1934.
I think Sophie Scholl, Hans Scholl, Willi Graf, Kurt Huber, Christoph Probst and Alexander Schmorell were braver, much braver, than Von Stauffenberg,
Premier Cooked is expected to do a presser on cultural laws at 1030am*
*rumoured…
The reason so many autists have gut issues is because of a Th 17 mediated inflammatory response in the gut, which also has some fascinating behavioral implications. That is very well established. Even the article argues they are not establishing causation. There is nothing new about the autism gut issue.
It won’t because autists have different brains. Hyper intra-regional connectivity, hypo interegional-connectivity. That’s not going to change, the distances are too great to permit the required level of axonal growth and reconfiguration.
The genetic and maternal immune activation linkages are much stronger. The microbiome changes are a consequence not a cause.
They’ve found him?
Site very zippy today, Dover.
After six years of development but just 39 days in operation the Cook government will tear up the 2021 Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act and revert to the 50-year-old laws it was designed to replace.
WA Premier Roger Cook is expected to make the announcement following Labor’s caucus meeting on Tuesday morning, a government source confirmed.
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/western-australia/back-to-the-future-cook-gears-up-for-wa-aboriginal-heritage-laws-backflip-20230807-p5dukj.html
No complaint… is more common than that of a scarcity of money.
– Adam Smith
Despite the (upcoming?) backflip HB, WAFF were on 6PR this morning and said some LACHS had already identified sacred sites (possibly ethereal sites like a spirit in the air) and nobody now knows what will happen to these cases… many projects deferred and some farmers have already spent thousands on “cultural surveys”….
…it’s going to take months to mop up and is the single biggest legislative failure in WA’s history.
In passing, there were several reformations rather than a single Reformation; they are delineated by national, political (radical or magisterial?) and doctrinal characteristics. Luther, for example, was quite conservative in such matters (as was Elizabeth I in the later English context) and left his exile in the Wartburg Castle to quell an outbreak of iconoclasm in Wittenberg carried out by self-described “prophets”.
Lizzie brings her Book Club here.
Any news on your latest medical appointments? Or how you, unlike anybody else, help less fortunate relatives?
Oh, forgot your dance classes. The entire readership is agog for the latest on what you discussed over coffee with a bunch of people that nobody in their right mind would want to see in leotards.
When it comes to lack of self awareness (not to mention total self absorption) our Lizzie is up there with (spins Rolodex) zzzzz .. zzz .. today’s winner is Dylan Mulvaney.
Congratulations, Lizzie!
There is surf in SF by the way. The swells can be so large in NorCal that it pushes into the bay and breaks under the southern foot of the Golden Gate. And you have Mavericks, legendary big wave, on the other side of the peninsula. Michael Ho died there in the early 90s and Pete Mel recently rode this insane barrel in ’21.
I love the crowd’s reaction and his too. He is savouring the moment. He’ll probably never get another wave that perfect at Mavericks again. No one has these last 30 or so years. I can’t pass on the commitment need to back-door a barrel. True for any wave over 6 feet but even more so when that wave is 20+ feet. It never gets old watching it.
They’ll be back with V.2 when they think the electoral cycle is morfe favourable.
Josephine was unavailable for comment.
For every action there’s an equal an opposite reaction.
Elon Musk wants to avoid another ‘rock tornado’ next time Starship launches. SpaceX just tested a way to prevent it (7 Aug)
Elon’s little rocket that could is so powerful it shredded the reinforced concrete launch pad underneath it. Wow.
Agree Roger, but they’ll be looking at slimmer majority after ’25 election, perhaps a hostile upper house too? But, also, new Legislative Council rules are a Labor “stack”…
There are two I’m aware of, the 1982 film “the White Rose” and 2005’s “Sophie Scholl – The Final Days”.
Mmmyes.
Health authorities issue dastardly warnings about deaf cap mushies, and rightfully so.
However, the stats show that the fatality rate from deaf caps is variable, but it seems to run at 10-15%.
But this batch seemed to have a kill rate better than Mossad at Port Arthur. Wiki says you need 30 grams for a fatal dose, which doesn’t sound like much but that is a reasonable bulk of raw mushroom.
Hospitalisation and prompt treatment is essential. Given time is of the essence for treatment, another question for me would be when exactly the cook disclosed that there were mushies in the dish.
“Destroying beauty and history because of ideology (see the Reformation) is always depressing to watch.”
But depressingly common. Even in old Egypt, wall paintings were often defaced by the ‘next’ generation.
There is surf in SF by the way. The swells can be so large in NorCal that it pushes into the bay and breaks under the southern foot of the Golden Gate. And you have Mavericks, legendary big wave, on the other side of the peninsula. Michael Ho died there in the early 90s and Pete Mel recently rode this insane barrel in ’21.
Newcastle harbour has a break caused by debris on the inner side of the Breakwall. It only works in VERY large Southerly swells and is not for the faint hearted. I still have some scars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmeXpqIDST0
I don’t suppose a Voice, whether constitutionally enshrined or merely legislated as Peter Dutton prefers, would revisit the opposition of aboriginal elders to same sex “marriage” expressed in the Uluru Bark Petition of 2015 and many times thereafter:
Or is the perhaps the one topic on which indigenous elders won’t be listened to?
Don’t know the title, I just channel surfed across it a couple of times. The script/acting seemed reasonable. Pseudo doco or full movie? Not sure, bet there stemmed to be a bit of flexibility with the truth in places.
Another view of the Newcastle Harbour break:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5FEY9PlAK4
The number of deaths?
Or the number of social media reports, where multiple people report the same death?
See also, Lancet : Iraq Body Count.
In these terms, many of the internal disputes seem to be between clans within different tribes, then between tribes at a higher level.
As with Albanese, I think Cook is too personally invested in this to let it go, even at the risk of losing his premiership.
For WA Cats, just remember Premier Cooked said only last week
“the libs complaints about the cultural legislation is like a dog returning to its vomit.”
Today is going to be fun.
How do they get away with this crap? They have no way of knowing what their ancestors believed in the Pleistocene of even early Holocene. Oral mediated information tradition has so many problems. We debate even written records for decades and centuries but when it comes to indigenous beliefs we must bow down and unquestioningly accept their claims. They can get stuffed. Some may that that naive to accept those arguments but a moment’s reflection reveals that the claims are little more than politically motivated proclamations.
As dumb as he is Roger he’s smarter than Albo. Remember when he decided to “take a break” when his Health portfolio was imploding so he picked up some “softer” Ministries…
Quite the wedge to find yourselves in though, to be seen modernising the protection of cultural sites or to find yourselves in opposition a lot sooner than you thought… surely they’ll be looking for middle ground?
Hear, hear!
Blowjobs and granola:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5z8-9Op2nM
Has he been using a flame splitter on a flat pad? Perhaps instead he should try a flame bucket, to direct the exhaust away.
Melbourne was missiled by Russia last night. True story!
Meanwhile Vlad is today evacuating a Siberian village so that the same doesn’t happen to them too.
We need Wile E. Coyote’s umbrella.
Cassie of Sydney
Aug 8, 2023 10:58 AM
I’d like to see a dramatisation of the White Rose….
Sophie Scholl, die letzten Tage from 2005.
A notable feature was the depiction of Roland Freisler and his socialist rantings. Evil in full flight.
Great movie!
Bruce
not sure how likely but if you were China, once you shut down the West’s energy grids and internet, the next thing would be to cause a lot of space debris and effectively knock out all modern communication???
True story???
I think they account for multiple reports of the same person.
Lizzie &11am:
A very accurate and informed explanation of kinship relationships amongst Aborigines – especially, as you point out – coastal & northern mobs. There is little understanding in the wider community of these structures and associated customs.
On the other hand, these are very probably almost extinct in their application today, even in remote areas. Except for some customs favouring the senior men – eg one who is celebrated today (deceased) & who engaged in polygamy without any redress from local authorities.
Cite you the “land rights ” dispute in Western Australia, where the manager of the station involved, and his wife, had a better grasp of indigenous lore then the the local Aborigines. It emerged that the “guardian of the sacred sites” lived hundreds of kilometers away, in Perth, and had never set foot on the sites in his life.
Yes, you’d think so.
Unfortunate timing, opening the door to display the traditional Festival of Munni just as new guests are arriving.
Nobody in Canbra (or Kamberri, as we should all call it) would have been pleased.
WA Premier Crooked’s presser live here:
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/western-australia/back-to-the-future-cook-gears-up-for-wa-aboriginal-heritage-laws-backflip-20230807-p5dukj.html
Snap Rabz.
A point of pedantry about this, otherwise historically accurate movie:
The guillotine depicted towards the end was a “Tegel” model. The one in use at the Stadelheim Prison in Munich was an older “Mannhardt” from the 1850s.
The depiction of the ritual prior to the execution was perfect.
Not at Villa Megan. I only like the cute little button mushrooms raw in a salad. As little kids we foraged for mushies with my grandparents on the Mornington Peninsula as dear old grandpop couldn’t get enough of the things.
The smell of them cooking makes me squirmy to this day. I could never include them for others. The fatal consequences if you picked the wrong sort was always a great disincentive. Besides which, aren’t mushies one of those things, like shellfish and peanuts you always ask your guests if they are OK with them?
Interesting scenario – could be completely accidental. Or not. Time will tell.
I managed a visit to Dachau CC last month. I had not realised it proudly opened for business in 1933. Political opposition were sent there first. Anyone standing in the way of the Brown shirts were simply relocated elsewhere and worked to death…unless they were shot. Easy for us to say we would have stood up to Herr Mini Moustacha, the costs were v high to you, family und friends.
I note the ABC is now calling Sydney “Wangal.”
As in “The Matildas defeated Denmark last night in Wangal.”
I doubt this sort of top down cultural depredation will play well among the masses.
Not to mention the overseas tourism marketers…”come and see the Wangal Opera House” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.
The ABC should become what it was in 1787 – non existent.
Oh noes.
How climate change will affect your pet—and how to help them cope (Phys.org, 7 Aug)
He obviously hasn’t yet heard that Fido is killing Gaia. Here’s who he is:
Btw UQ also has a couple of excitable reports today on the imminent death of Da Reef, which is fun since coral cover on said beastie is at an all time high. Rabz the place, and put Prof. Ove onto welfare.
That murder case being reported by the ABC regarding the death of a young woman and the likely death and 30 year disappearance of a young man suggests that some aspects of aboriginal culture held significant sway, not that long ago.
Invoice will fix it (from June 2023)
Tragic details of fatal domestic violence attack detailed in NT coroner’s court, as landmark inquest begins
more money, more police.
Roll 17 or higher on the twenty sided dice to succeed.
Dungeons & Dragons tells illustrators to stop using AI to generate artwork for fantasy franchise (via Phys.org, 7 Aug)
Artists are going to be so out of work in the 21stC, especially since AI has now discovered how to render pretty ladies with big, er, assets. Maybe artists need to learn to code.
Richard Milgin was in the culturally wrong relationship with Julie Buck who had been promised to an unnamed older man.
Climate change is certainly a boon to academics.
They’ve now got a whole new angle to apply to their research fields…and their grant applications
What? It was a special type of entrapment, control and brutality? Pull the other one.
On the deaths being preventable…of course they are. It’s called self control and compassion. Personality traits missing in brutes and sociopaths. These can’t be “Voiced” in.
Another reason to shut down the ABC. I refuse to allow it on in my house or car.
Watching Libor is like watching a dog eat another dogs shit.
Belated thanks, Roger.
Well there goes Deviant Art, if we can teach it to draw furries.
Freisler was a turd.
Apparently he died in a bombing raid near the courthouse. The Dr who aided him was due to appear before him.
I can imagine the scene
BOOM
Freisler” golly gosh I’ve been partially killed by a bomb”
Dr Goodchap”stand back everyone I’m a Dr who will provide exactly the treatment Mr Freisler needs/deserves”
Freisler” gurgle, wheeze”
Bystander “ Herr Dr are you sure his disemboweling is best treated by a tourniquet apples to his neck”..
It was the model for Mickleham.
I know a bloke who translated the specs from German to English for Dan.
Dot.
In all your analysis of causes of autism you have overlooked one thing.
Over-diagnosis.
Just shuffled past a scene which provides a good snapshot of modern corporate Australia. A green Colesworths home shopping truck with Linfox OH&S stickers on it explaining how to get in and out of the truck double parked while the Indian driver runs in two bags of shopping. Maaaate, it might not be a coincidence Chairman Dan came to grief on the stairs in Portsea. I could not see whether there was a hole in the driver seat but readers are free to make their own guess.
So, in stabbing the indigenous peeps in the back, didn’t anyone notice that Cook and Minister Buti, neither of them, did an Acknowledgement of Country prior to talking.
Proves they’re just saving their own hides and don’t care.
That and diagnostic substitution, where ASD was diagnosed instead of Pervasive Developmental Disorder – Not Otherwise Specified. A major reason for that could be access to services for people diagnosed with ASD whereas PDD-NOS is just a catch all with no obvious treatment possibilities. Another issue is the change in the DSM(1994) which resulted in Asperger’s also being included under the ASD umbrella. A mistake in my opinion. I can appreciate why they did it because of symptom overlap but it would have been better to maintain separate categories.
Big Nerd fights back.
Hey proles, how would like your unaccountable utterly corrupt anti-democratic sh*t sandwich – constitutionally enshrined or merely legislated?
These stupid stinking politicians have no idea.
So you’re told I presume?
Not really Pancho Sansa. You’re just not allowed to bring it up as a social rule…
When I read that I thought V2 – as in the rocket.
And like the V2 people will have almost no warning and its precise point of impact will only be known when it occurs.
I am told many things which I make remarks about on this August blog, in fact, most things are overheard in supermarkets and on public transport. I just can’t help eavesdropping. I do admit, it is a burden hearing some of these conversations.
At least you don’t have to see us in our curlers and trakkies though.
Yes John H.
All manner of boundary stretching and re-categorisation has rendered any comparison of autistic cohorts from 2023 and 1973 completely meaningless.
I have no doubt that many parents in 1973 would have fought tooth and nail to avoid having a child classified as autistic, describing the kid as ‘having trouble concentrating’ or some such.
The equivalent kid today has parents who will happily bore a dinner party shitless with “Tales From the Spectrum”.
The WA Liar’s panic button would be working overtime. Missing their State Daddy.
Re-naming places seems to be the new obsession with the PC aboriginal. crowd. This ignores the fact that such names are historically important to the vast majority of the population, and in losing them, we lose part of our history.
Particularly with a new iPad from the NDIS.
Names are just pointers. I have no idea why people obsess over the specifics. I couldn’t care less if the Australian flag was tinnies, a BBQ, and a cricket bat. I appreciate I am unusual like that.
Thanks, Vicki. In my early years as an academic I used to teach this stuff. Aboriginal kinship can be quite complex. Margaret MacArthur (40’s and 50’s fieldwork expert on aboriginal nutrition in northern Australia among other things) and I failed 30% of first year students in Anthropology in their kinship examination, though they could make it up in other areas. A lot were doing Matrimony 1 and thought this would be an easy ride. lol.
Presumably that extends to the name of processed cheddar cheese? Clearly never been exposed to inter generational trauma and subconscious racism.
Today we celebrate the Solemnity of Saint Mary of the Cross MacKillop
Mary MacKillop was born in Melbourne in 1842 and died in Sydney on 8 August 1909. She took the religious name Mary of the Cross.
She was canonized by Pope Benedict XVI on 17 October 2010:
the first Australian saint.
SAINT MARY OF THE CROSS
I read a study which claimed a strong correlation between access to services state by state(USA) and rates of ASD diagnosis. To once again put on my cynical hat, mental health professionals have a vested interest in diagnosing ASD because it provides them with another client that will require lifelong appointments.
That’s the intention Damon, they want to erase the European history and culture of Australia. Remember that many communist revolutions called the takeover “year zero” as they erased everything beforehand.
So much material to work with. So, so much.
I think aboriginal culture has a definite place in the history of humanity’s exploration and usage of the planet, and there is much to be admired in their tenacious hold on survival at an early stage of human technological development. Some of their later technology was quite advanced, rather as hunter-gatherer cultures elsewhere developed technologies, and some was probably also influenced in the north via contacts with the New Guinea islands and later traders and explorers from Indonesian areas. Not as remote as suspected perhaps but still mostly isolated. In Tasmania the results of long isolation took their toll until whalers and then other Europeans arrived. Glamorising this ancient culture in terms of Rousseau’s ideals of noble savages etc does not enhance the actual achievements of aboriginal culture and survival. A gentle movement into the modern world is now required for those who still adhere to what they think are remnants of it. For those who have long moved away from that past, they need only the help that we offer to others if they are having difficulties in adjustment, for aboriginal people are not alone in that.
No surprise that kangaroo paw was more common amongst the APS during the great RSI scare of whenever. We haven’t really progressed much from dunking witches in rivers.
And start piling up the skulls shortly thereafter.
It’s just moral hazard, Freakonomics etc are good starters for laypeople on this.
Over at Jo Nova’s blog “Ross” has suggested that since we used to call Morrison “ScoMo”, we should use the same process to call current PM “AnAl”.
Like it!!!
Tourism in Penola, (SA, just east of the Vic border,) is centred around Mary McKillop and her wonderful work, especially in establishing a school. Many buildings from that era are well preserved and if you want any info about their beloved saint just drop into the Visitor’s Centre.
Especially white academics patronising aboriginals by taking seriously every stupid, ahistoric ‘lived experience’ said aboriginals humbug for them.
Lindy Burney just rose in Question Time and sounded quite pissed!
Selling dead ducks like the Voice is obviously quite stressful and requires multiple liquid lunches as a seditive — especially just before question time, where she faces the week’s only questions on the subject, the Canberra press gallery being missing in action.
For those who have long moved away from that past, they need only the help that we offer to others if they are having difficulties in adjustment
Unfortunately Lizzie, that would be an anathema to the do-gooders who continue to romanticise the life of nomadic hunter/gatherers. And worse, an anathema to those who suffer from some sort of guilt complex in respect to the course of history.
I think self meditation is the polite nomenclature. She wouldn’t be the first.
LOL. Melbourne already is a Disney Land, or maybe Freak Show.
Disneyland Australia site near Melbourne’s Avalon Airport outside Geelong
You English in atrocious, Humphrey. Linda Burney is clearly self-medicating.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Aug 8, 2023 2:10 PM
Glamorising this ancient culture in terms of Rousseau’s ideals of noble savages etc
There’s an interesting discussion between Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murray here, where they both discuss the noble savage myth.. there were 2 facts new to me:
Rousseau put all his children in institutions, rather than raise them.. nice, moral guy that he was.
Some French navy-chappies ran aground in an island just off the NZ Coast in the late 1700s and were promptly accosted by the friendly local Maori Nobles, who killed and ate all but one of the chappies. The one who escaped was somewhat Red-Pilled about Rousseau thereafter…
Eek! Bolding.
John Laws’ deliberate mistake Tom? 😛
I would expect cannibalism to alter your world view. Especially if you were dinner.
Was it the Bark Uluru Statement of the Uluru Statement from the Heart that dissed same sex marriage?
Be careful, Humphrey. I have Franklin extra-bold condensed in the locker for big occasions. Areff is also a big fan.
Speaks for itself. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-08/tennant-creek-man-sentenced-domestic-violence-attack-partner/102702228
It is not being ignored, destroying that part of our history is the actual intention.
Calling Brisbane Meanjin is a nonsense. The only thing that could be rationally so named is the particular place (allegedly the bend i the river where the Parliament House and Botanic Gardens now stand). There was no city or even town in that location that could have borne the name, and the local indigenes had neither the ability to imagine such a city, nor the capability to construct it (sorry, Bruce P).
Ditto with other towns, cities, roads and other constructions put up by settlers.
Being a gentlebear I gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed it was autocorrect. Not everyone has the benefit of quality sub-editing.
rugbyskier
Snap.
If you want extra impact, use bolding and UPPER CASE.
SPARINGLY, lest you deafen your readers.
And even more anathema to those very many who have constructed comfortable, well-remunerated, careers on the basis of pseudo-intellectual rubbish.
Tired and emotional?
A ridiculous affectation that needs to join the QANTAS homo marriage ring in the sock drawer. It goes without saying, quite popular in Ultimo.
I honestly thought Meanjin was somewhere in China.
Idiots.
Something else for people to consider when we start hearing that the old (if ever) place names are sacred.
A tradition with no written language or written history can just be made up on the spot.
Sure the natural response when someone makes a claim is to ask them to back it up, but since that is considered racist the unsupported claim prevails by default.
These idiots don’t call Brisbane “Meanjin” in everyday conversations, they’re full of it.
Evil.
Medicine, changes and intimidation
I’ve not spent much time considering the Canberra village presidium. Clearly that needs to change. They are not only ignorant, but extremely dangerous.
Reading the rantings of the ‘chief minister’ today you are forced to question his sanity. Certainly he is unsuitable for office at any level.
I don’t care at all about the tribulations of Canberra public servants consequent upon the lunacies of this outfit that they elected, my concern is that left governments are like kids at a birthday, the egg each other on to greater and greater lunacy.
Most scary was the comment that only “popular” Pocock is capable of rolling this outfit.
Martha, bring the gun!
The campaign by Victorian farmers against the destruction of their land by subsidy mining scammers riding roughshod over their property rights with wind farms finally seems to be achieving cut-through — though not in the popular press, just comparatively little read outlets like the Paywallian.
Nevertheless, Robert Gottlleibsen shows signs of understanding the swindle:
The practice of Australian governments and public servants to ignore the truth if it does not fit their political ambitions or policies is starting to reach dangerous proportions.
In the latest example, a flawed CSIRO report led us to conclude that wind energy would reduce power prices, when in fact it will skyrocket them.
Accordingly, unless radically changed, the current renewable strategies being embraced in vast areas of Australia are going to cause great hardship for households and enterprises. Yet, Australia needs a low-carbon energy strategy.
I feel sorry for energy minister Chris Bowen, who understandably did not realise the CSIRO report’s conclusions were at best grossly misleading.
We now need a total re-examination of our renewable energy policy.
Fortunately, as I explain below, alternatives are available that will not lift power prices.
In another example of ignoring the truth, yesterday I set out how the full Uluru statement made a mockery of many of the stated sentiments behind the “yes” campaign.
Had the full 112-page Uluru statement, including the minutes of the 13 dialogues, been made public at a much earlier stage, the wiser heads in the ALP would never have allowed a referendum to proceed given the sentiments and motivations expressed in the document.
And of course the ‘Robodebt’ scandal of the previous government would have been nipped in the bud had proper and accurate reports been sent to cabinet.
The practice of preparing misleading reports gained great impetus when some 15 years ago defence officials produced a cost estimate for the Joint Strike Fighter but left out the cost of the engine!
Last month, with the help of experts in the wind industry, I was able to explain to readers that our current renewable policies will explode power costs and lead to blackouts.
And now the nation can be grateful for the reporting of my colleague Claire Lehmann showing that CSIRO’s GenCost report, which helped frame much of Australia’s renewable strategies by claiming that wind and solar are hypothetically the cheapest after 2030 was, using my words, “complete hogwash”.
Just as the cost of the JSF was slashed by leaving out the engine, so the CSIRO left out of its GenCost calculation the cost of transmission lines, storage and other infrastructure requirements. Everyone knows and accepts that the actual operating costs of generating power via wind is very low.
It’s the enormous cost of capital facilities and the fact that the capital investment in windmills must be replaced every 30 years that boosts the costs dramatically. And most of the investment is being made with private capital, which requires a return which must be included in any realistic assessment of costs.
Currently, in Victoria farmers are angry because high cost, tall transmission towers are cutting a swathe through their properties and farmers with a windmill on their land gain big rewards, but those next door must put up with the impacts without any recompense. The same thing is about to happen in NSW.
The farmers have discovered that a series of overseas institutions led by the Chinese are set to make a fortune from making these massive capital investments that have not been costed in the CSIRO Gencost blueprint.
‘Gas is no longer a transition fuel’: Australia needs to move to renewables
The farmers are having some wins because rules are being imposed to protect the brolga waterbird, a threatened species of indigenous crane, and the southern bent-wing bat, making it possible that segments of proposed renewable power generation will not proceed.
But for farmers, my message is that the only way to win is to show the community that dependence on wind power to reduce carbon emissions can be greatly reduced by changes in farming practice. And the side benefit is better food productivity, and lower power prices. Here are some rough sums that farmers must validate — but not with CSIRO until it re-establishes credibility.
Using Victoria as an example, the area of the state is around 22.8 million hectares of which about a half is agricultural land (ie, 11.4 million hectares), managed by about 20,000 farm businesses.
If we were to assume that all farms adopted and implemented regenerative agriculture practices/systems, and that they on average were able to sequester annually five tonnes of CO2 per hectare via the root systems of plants like saltbush and via landscape revegetation, then around 60 million tonnes of atmospheric CO2 would be sequestered per annum in Victoria.
Yallourn Power brown coal station emits 13 million tonnes of CO2 per annum and Loy Yang 19 million — in the vicinity of 30 per cent of total Victorian emissions
So even if agricultural practices take out only half of the above assumed potential — or 30 million tonnes of CO2 per annum — it is enough to offset both the Yallourn and Loy Yang emissions.
It should not be hard to collaborate with South Australia, given that Victoria often transmits Latrobe Valley electricity across the border when SA renewables aren’t generating.
SA has vast areas of degraded farmlands with the potential to store in plant roots several times Victoria’s total CO2 emissions.
And of course to hit the carbon reduction jackpot, Victoria could set up a gas fired power station to replace, say, one coal fire station.
Victoria’s low cost gas is dissolved in water, which when brought to the surface underwrites the carbon storage plant growth.
But farmers around Australia will need to wake up that they have the answer and push the answer rather than the protest.
Toby Young: Clearly, NatWest is envisioning a time when we are an entirely cashless society
ABCcess has now started using the made up names before the horrible pale stale ones those racists use….
Meanjin – here?
Langton the homophobe??
https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d0240a46b6bbc200c-pi
It’s quite useful. Qantas might instead put up a sign saying “Qantas management are a bunch of useless tossers”, but calling Brisbane and Sydney by names nobody recognises sounds nicer and means the same.
Shes so special…
Race swap the tweets and see how you go.
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Well she’s barbecue ready, Dover. The Jezebel spirit is alive and well and nestling safely and corrosively in the church.
When I referred some ladies I lead (not teach) to that verse (1 Timothy 2:12), they were utterly amazed and a bit cranky. My theory is that the moment a woman starts mouthing off in the pulpit, the men leave. And, boy, are some women tempted to do it! And then wonder why the church is empty.
Here it is in full:
It’s all about behaviour and self-control in church, but it does seep over into marriage as well.
Not easy for loud mouths like me. 😀
Ugh. Twitter. Now I need to go and have a shower.
These idiots don’t call Brisbane “Meanjin” in everyday conversations, they’re full of it
Certainly not.
We must all refer to Brisbane as Meaanjin.
Neil Oliver reacts to Elon Musk suggesting he’d cover legal fees for those fired over tweets
Marcia really is an unpleasant person, huh?
I assumed she was a lawyer, but she is just an activist anthropologist.
AND an unpleasant person.
Thousands more Aussies dying than usual and Moderna passes them off as COVID deaths
Meloni pulling Italy out of Belt and Road pact with China
10 ways American culture and way of life is under assault
calli
Speak for yourself.
A Victorian woman is helping police with their enquiries over the death of 4 people.
3 people appear to have died from poison mushrooms. The fourth was found dead with a broken skull. When Police questioned the woman how the fourth person had died from a broken skull her response was ‘he wouldn’t eat his fucking mushrooms!’
A quick 1 minute long clip on You Tube from “John Talks”
Wahmen use the Barbie Movie to test their relationships…
It ends with boxed wine and cats.
I love the various photos Teh Paywallian find to illustrate stories on Chairman Dan. They capture his gormlessness and despotism beautifully.
The next time I need Robert Gottlleibsen to tell me how to stop a power line and efficiently farm, I’ll give him a call.
A tradition with no written language or written history can just be made up on the spot.
Methinx a lot of folk woke up to this long ago .. but most folk who have to work for a living just filed it under pathetic ………
Presumably actually seeing the movie is an F?
Yes? Australian electorate appears to say, No
New post on recent polls re Yes campaign.
So are BitCoiners.
Kos Samaras needs to be platformed and signal boosted. Tell NO voters they’re all idiot losers.
“The politics of grievance”
“Give us 2% of GDP in perpetuity”
Some people are not thinking ahead past Christmas.
I live in a low-income housing environment that goes by the government name of Section 8.
Me and a group of my allies control certain areas of this section to run our illegitimate business. We poses unregistered firearms, stolen vehicles, mind-altering inhibitors and only use cash or financial purchases.
If anyone would like to settle unfinished altercations, I will be more than happy to release my address. I would like to warn you, I am a very dangerous person and I regularly disobey the law.
It’s always about how dumb/malicious the people who don’t vote like me are, not a thought given to the carefully created blind spot in the well heeled and severely edumacated.
Robespierre thought like Kos. Until he didn’t.
Cite you the case in Western Australia where the locals were demanding new houses be built, because they couldn’t live in a house where someone had died.
“Nah Nah Nah” said evil whitefella -“the elders of your tribe taught me, when I was a young bloke, that you couldn’t live in the house, until the first rains came, and washed all the evil spirits away…”
Hamster Test.
A Victorian woman is helping police with their enquiries over the death of 4 people.
3 people appear to have died from poison mushrooms. The fourth was found dead with a broken skull. When Police questioned the woman how the fourth person had died from a broken skull her response was ‘he wouldn’t eat his fkng mushrooms!’
Thanks to Lemminiwinks for keeping the site going.
Gez, my theory is that there is little difference between high-profile so-called “business writers” like Gottliebsen and politicians and activists: they’re all prone to peer pressure.
Bearing in mind journalism schools produce little but anti-free market activists — Marxists in other words — 99% of Gottliebsen’s work colleagues are poorly educated about the history of freedom and don’t understand that their freedom comes from one of its primary sources, the capitalist free market.
Most J-school kiddies weren’t born the last time Australia had a free market failure — the recession of 1989-90.
So one of Gottliebsen’s primary motivations in his writing, in my opinion, is the quality of his dinner parties. Having friends who understand the free market and where it comes from is quite unfashionable and doesn’t make for great dinner parties, especially among fellow property millionaires.
An interesting response to an innocuous post:
Re the use of Aboriginal place names :
In many cases explorers and early settlers would ask the locals what was the name of the place or area where they were. They would often state the (to them) obvious eg
“That’s a “mountain” “ etc – so you might get different dialect words for “mountain” or “creek” or a type go local tree etc. etc.
From the Hun
Lunatic Marxist Mulsim declares that the enlightenment was stolen from Islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsyqDnJIeN0
An example of naming after Aboriginal identification – the word “Jenolan” or “Genowlan” means “high place” in the local language west of the Blue Mountains.
Yes.
Paraphrasing what someone said upthread, how does a culture with no written history come up with these double vowels and strangely placed apostrophes?
Spring St (Vic. Parliament location) is Aboriginal term for Trade Union ATM.
AI & Self-Awareness
QUESTION: You do not see AI as actually becoming conscious? There are so many claiming that is the future. Are you hiring programmers in machine language?
LK
ANSWER: Let me explain something. Most generative AI models today are being trained and run in the cloud. These models are language-oriented, generating text. They are often at least 10 times to 100 times bigger than older AI models. ChatGPT is learning from the question people are asking. While this is impressive to the average person, there is no real economic value other than adding to the search function. This has resulted in a boom along with an insatiable appetite for running large language models at this point in time.
Even dogs have personalities. My little one will take a pill covered in peanut butter. The older one takes the peanut butter and spits out the pill. Just like having two children, they are not the same. What causes one to have a personality that is different from the other? I’m afraid I have to disagree with this theory that if you throw in enough data, suddenly, the computer will become self-aware. My little dog was just 11 weeks old. She is still exploring her environment, displaying curiosity, so she has a distinct personality BEFORE acquiring knowledge of her environment. This PROVES beyond a shadow of a doubt that this theory of a computer becoming self-aware is just nonsense. We do not teach our children how to be self-aware. They are born that way.
There is something there that creates the personality, and it appears from birth in dogs and humans. My dogs clearly think dynamically. If I get up with a coffee cup, they know I am going to the kitchen and heading there. Not all animals have that ability. So why are dogs capable of looking for patterns and anticipating my next move, and a hippo, snake, or alligator is not?
I do not believe we are anywhere close to comprehending those differences, and as such, we cannot create a true cognitive machine that is self-aware when we do not understand what makes us self-aware.”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/ai-computers/ai-self-awareness/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
Well, Meaanjin sounds nicer than Meanjin.
Cultural phonetics.
What did you do, Dr. Faustus?
This is demonstrably false. Armstrong doesn’t even understand the value of machine learning, which is the backbone of AI.
What a fraud.
I wouldn’t draw a distinction between financial j’ismists and their mainstream colleagues. The older ones like Gottliebsen (and Trevor Sykes and others) tend to have seen it all before and have a more healthy level of cynicism for the new and groovy. That said, you can usually tell when Triguboff has taken him to lunch to talk his own book.
Some people are vewy vewy angwy
Note some of the terminology. No consultation. Devastated and angered.
“We do not support the old Act’s Section 18 process, which is a permit for cultural heritage destruction. At this point in time, we are considering withdrawing from compliance-driven heritage surveys and negotiations until the State Government can deliver certainty and clarity around the future for all First Nations people,” Dr Ralph said.
Is this not unlike the threat from Langton about not doing Welcome to Country, which she shouldn’t be doing anyway, if the voice got rolled?
I’m all for the preservation of things like remains found but that shouldn’t hold projects up for decades. An exhumation and burial elsewhere would work.
Like a bridge in Swan Hill that’s taken forever to get the green light to even proceed. On the NSW side is Wamba Wamba mission, behind the Federal Hotel for those who know the area. My understanding is that it would be built further downstream of where it is now and go past the old mission, and behind the Fed. No real excuse for any hold up, the small cemetary is further down and won’t be affected. So crack on with it.
I think I’ve now read enough about Rousseau.
Thank you Gilas.
were Rousseau’s children victims of his moral theory ?
FFS I still use Ayers Rock. I must still be 30 years behind (chortle)
Like the Grampians and Devil’s Marbles. That Wangal shit from the World Cup last night can take a long walk off a short pier.
The whole case for the preservation of the Juankan caves was based on a few bones, some sharpened sticks and pieces of charcoal.
Given its location, Meanjin (or Meaanjin) probably means “Mosquito swamp”.
BB
If, as Bruce Pascoe claims, aboriginals lived in established towns, then surely one of the signs should be a specific burial ground. Has Pascoe ever identified one?
How about “Crappy Bend in the River Subject to Flooding”?
No wonder they pointed whitey there.
The above is from JohnH earlier this afternoon. As he says, they can get stuffed, the entire aboriginal oeuvre is hearsay that has likely changed hundreds of times in just recent history. Even if it were genuine history why do we genuflect before it and disadvantage the rest of society to placate a few people? Christian churches and even cathedrals are desanctified when no longer needed but we must sanctify a whole continent to one group.
There must be a costs/benefits assessment done before we put any lands or resources out of bounds. Anything else is racism, privileging a few members of one race above all others.
Sydney – “Die of Starvation”
I want to see cultural artefacts like rock paintings preserved. Any records of what human beings have got up to is worth preserving. The more we know about ourselves the better. So I think the Rio destruction was utterly wrong. That said, an option for one party to declare anything a sacred site is stupid. Nothing is sacred, or maybe everything is. Either way, some intelligent discrimination is called for.
Sorry…that’s “Eora”.
I feel depressed already. Time to channel my inner Piglet.
Good point.
One cool chick! I’ve still yet to watch one of her films.
Best of BETTE DAVIS – Interviews, Scenes, Bloopers, private Footage
This is demonstrably false. Armstrong doesn’t even understand the value of machine learning, which is the backbone of AI.
Dot, ask one of the AIs to write a romance in the style of Barbara Cartland & the FATAL RPG system between Marty and cell bock H.
All of cell bock H.
Daily Mail.