Open Thread – Mon 4 Sept 2023


The Pont Neuf Rainy Afternoon, Camille Pissaro, 1901

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PeterM
PeterM
September 4, 2023 11:36 am

I know that some here don’t like Barnaby, but he is very effective when he appears on Sunrise against TanyaP. He has “cut through”.

This morning Tanya told how the youth crime in Redfern was solved by community consultation and hence the need for a Voice. Barnaby pointed out that The Voice was not needed in that situation and yet the problem was solved.

I’m prolly telling it wrong, but he comes across as speaking common sense. Dutton came on afterwards and was also pretty good.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 4, 2023 11:37 am

One Country- Midnight Oil

PeterM
PeterM
September 4, 2023 11:37 am

Actually Chanel 7 runs a few good things at present – that News Spotlight on a Sunday night is good – dealt with trans mutilations last night. Worth a look on 7 catchup if you have time.

Roger
Roger
September 4, 2023 11:38 am

Put them in a gym to bulk up until they reach their majority because the world always has ditches to be dug and chain gang cost is much less than union wage.

I saw my first chain gang in Fiji. As I remember it, they even wore the horizontal striped outfits. Now they wear flourescent orange.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 4, 2023 11:38 am

The guys that stabbed that woman to death near where I work were in state care.

It is possible to be a member of an oppressed minority and still be an absolute arsehole.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 4, 2023 11:41 am

Apparently Biden has announced funding for a Covid vaxx ‘that works’.

But you would think that he and the rest of the Doomocrat brains trust would not want a working vaccine. That allows people to go out and about (as the theory goes).

He would want the situation to be where the only recognised strategy is keeping out of public – such as voting in person. He would want the next election to be as much mailed in as possible.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 11:42 am

But locking people up is the least productive thing society can do in the long term.

True. It can have bad effects psychologically and a criminal record can affect future employment prospects and travel. For non-violent offenders there should be a better way to punish and reform.

My second son was imprisoned for six months (out on parole after three) for a short period of bipolar madness making false documents to claim back money he believed in his gambling panic and mental confusion was owed to him. Total cost was less than $16k (far less than a damaged car that some get a tap on the wrist for). He didn’t help his case by refusing our legal assistance and insisting on his innocence after having skipped bail twice. They threw the book at him and his oppositional behaviour. It was only in prison that a psychiatrist diagnosed him as having a severe bipolar disorder. His mental state was not raised at all in Court. I visited him in Long Bay prison hospital regularly, and in Bathhurst and Silverwater, for they shifted him around a bit before Long Bay.

It took me five years to bring him back from the results of his imprisonment, living on the streets and drinking his life away, refusing our help, getting into more strife. We brought him back home on parole. He was good at first under meds, but then refused medication, and he absconded after a month. We would have willingly paid back the money had they let us do so.

Incarceration simply scarred him badly. Sometimes I still hear what I call the ‘prison whine’ in his voice. Slowly, that accent is leaving him, and his accent and voice is more that of the ambitious young man once was, studying Science at Uni. But he’s 48 now. He sometimes these days wears the good clothes I got him to apply for work, but not getting much, or having difficulties with it, he falls back into self-neglect. I do my best for him, bring him new clothes and tell him to chuck the rest, for he rarely washes anything, even though I got him a new washing machine. Last year I paid for a ski holiday he was saving for (he only got to $200) to remind him of his earlier life and how he can restore it. I provide regular food, internet and phone and pay vet fees for his dog. Having and loving this dog has emotionally improved him a lot.

I can’t change everything though.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 4, 2023 11:43 am

lotocoti
Sep 4, 2023 10:39 AM
It’s looking grim.
Apparently men over thirty, currently studying at university,
will lose their military exemption too.
IIRC it was the French ace Georges Guynemer who,
when asked what he planned to do after the war said:
There won’t be any “after the war”.

Guynemer, iirc, disappeared somewhere over the Western Front. The French legend was that “he flew so high he could never return to the earth”.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 11:45 am

I know that some here don’t like Barnaby

I’m not a fan but I think, as they say, he is a remarkable “retail” politician. I’ve had beers with him on two occasions and he’s extremely funny and quick witted.

And, IMHO, he holds the record for the best ABC interview ever where he schooled Fran Kelly on climate. He quoted scientists Roy Christie and Spencer and Fran said “they’re not climate experts” and BJ was quick to point out that they “were IPCC chairs.”

The subsequent five second silence from Fran was the best I’ve heard on their ABC ever.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 4, 2023 11:45 am

No Secrets – the Angels

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 4, 2023 11:48 am

Where do the Walkley boycotters fill up?

Or do they charge their EVs with electricity produced by burning coal?

Hopefully they also boycott AmpCharge – and strand themselves in inhospitable places.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 11:49 am

Oh, and if I get any ‘me,me,me’ and ‘Angela’s Ashes’ comment here from a stalker, believe me, I will really explode.

I have life experiences that should be shared, and act as points of debate.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 4, 2023 11:52 am

No campaign song should be
‘Am I ever gonna see your Voice again’
No way,
GFd
Foff

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 11:54 am

I’ve had beers with him on two occasions and he’s extremely funny and quick witted.

In other words, much better than some.

Nobody’s perfect. To quote a well known movie meme. 🙂

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 11:54 am

Dont know if any Cats saw but Redland Council in suburban QLD is fighting a native title claim which could have its local parks, reserves and other council lands (including chambers and admin location) taken off it by indigenous claimants.

Also noteworthy that the Feds have given the complainants $28M to help them fight their claim but Albo’s government have also shut down what’s called the Respondents Fund…

A possible scenario is that local playgrounds, parks, reserves, sports teams etc.. will have their land taken off them (and potentially need to lease it back off the indigenous corporation).

Roger
Roger
September 4, 2023 11:57 am

Hopefully they also boycott AmpCharge – and strand themselves in inhospitable places.

My wife was watching TV last night and I caught an ad featuring Russell Coight.

He’s camped in what looks like the Simpson Desert when a couple in an EV 4WD roll up and plug in to a charger that magically happens to be there.

I’ve no idea what the product was, but surely that’s false advertising.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 12:00 pm

Toyota Outlander, Roger. Also a hybrid, which makes me wonder why the need to plug it in at all.

They don’t work so well in the great open spaces anyway, relying on stop/start to charge.

Yes. It’s false advertising on many levels.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 12:02 pm

Toyota doesn’t even need to do it. Their hybrid products are probably the best of a bad bunch. And their ICE reputation in the bush is unparalleled.

Speedbox
September 4, 2023 12:06 pm

Roger
Sep 4, 2023 11:57 AM

The ad is for the new Mitsubishi Outlander EV.

I have also seen the ad and noted the remarkable appearance of an EV charging point at a location that can only be described as ‘extremely remote’.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 12:07 pm

I drove a hybrid Toyota Corolla out to the bush last week. It was a heap of crap. When you take your foot off the accelerator, the electric engine kicks in but is equivalent to pressing the brake in how fast it slows down when you take your foot off. No “guts” at all… and you couldn’t even coast down a hill at 110km – as the electric engine would still slow it down, going downhill…

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 12:09 pm

Yikes! I take that back. Trust a chick to get the brands wrong.

Toyota…all is forgiven. 😀

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 12:10 pm

Lysander, the Beloved has a hybrid Rav4 on order. I tried to dissuade him, but he is determined.

I fear it will not end well.

Roger
Roger
September 4, 2023 12:11 pm

Dont know if any Cats saw but Redland Council in suburban QLD

Bayside suburban Brisbane.

Another Redlands news story – the local council has a housing strategy that accommodates growth while preserving what makes the area attractive. The state government, in the person of Deputy Premier Steven Miles, is threatening to override that to accelerate growth (i.e. turn it into a medium-high density shithole) without consulting the council.

Roger
Roger
September 4, 2023 12:14 pm

I have a feeling the ALP will lose Redlands at the next state election.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 12:14 pm

Calli, it was the first and only hyrbid I’ve ever driven. I was surprised at its lack of power… and overtaking trucks doing 100km/ph was not fun at all with the little squealy engine…

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 12:16 pm

Roger, the LNP HoR MP there is Henry Pike… he’s a pretty solid conservative…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 12:17 pm

A possible scenario is that local playgrounds, parks, reserves, sports teams etc.. will have their land taken off them (and potentially need to lease it back off the indigenous corporation).

Saw it on Outsiders Sunday. A good sign of what we have already allowed to happen with Native Title legislation and a portent of what is yet to come with da Voice.

Land and improvements all belonga us. You now pay us muni to use them.

The big question is: who are these ‘claimants’? And why doesn’t current usage ‘extinguish’ this chimera of legal fabrication called Native Title? Let alone why funds are made available for such claims, and not made available to legally defend against them.

Once Native Title moves into the suburbs over land enjoyed by all for generations, then it is surely meaningless. As I’ve said, I would legislate it out of existence if I was dictator. Certainly the whole issue should be revisited and new legislation represented to the High Court once some better legal minds are on it to address these issues.

Native Title is already claimed over far too much of the Australian land mass as it is.
Time for some push back, and no better time than a No vote to start the ball rolling.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 4, 2023 12:20 pm

Rod spared.
Child spoiled.

Zatara
Zatara
September 4, 2023 12:21 pm

Land and improvements all belonga us. You now pay us muni to use them.

What does the King have to say about all this land belonging to someone else?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 12:23 pm

We hired a new hybrid Toyota Corolla as a run around town vehicle for a few days recently while the Sporty Beamer was out of action.

It was fine for short urban hops. We didn’t expect much of it anyway.
It’s not really a car for the bush.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 12:24 pm

Once Native Title moves into the suburbs

….you’d hope Australians start to wake up!

Roger
Roger
September 4, 2023 12:25 pm

Roger, the LNP HoR MP there is Henry Pike… he’s a pretty solid conservative…

Yes, federally it’s in Bowman.

I think you could describe Redlands as aspirational Labor.

Steven Miles just trod all over their aspirations (to put it politely).

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 4, 2023 12:25 pm

The Toyota hybrid I had in NZ was pretty good and I was sceptical. I got 3.5 – 3.75 lph driving like I always drive. If you were driving on the flat unless stop start it would be useless. Small tin cans frighten me. Mind you the new Forester does as well compared to the old Outback turbo. The old one is a far better car to drive.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 12:25 pm

By 2030, you’ll own nothing and anything you do own won’t work cos there’s not enough power.

“And you’ll be happy.”

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 12:30 pm

The discovery of an ancient ape skull may challenge the long-held belief that the ancestors of apes and humans came from Africa, a controversial new study says.

https://news.yahoo.com/8-7-million-old-ape-163946744.html

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 4, 2023 12:32 pm

What does the King have to say about all this land belonging to someone else?

He’ll probably say it belongs to Gaia.

Crossie
Crossie
September 4, 2023 12:37 pm

As previously reported, the local Coleswoths have removed the front of store posters that went up when the referendum was announced. I wondered if it was a local initiative in response to customer complaints, but the promotions over the in-house radio also seemed to have been taken off, which suggests a review of company policy.

Roger, I wonder if now they will play “You’re The Voice” on repeat instead.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 4, 2023 12:41 pm

This morning Tanya told how the youth crime in Redfern was solved by community consultation and hence the need for a Voice

We were waylaid by a Yes supporter on our way to lunch yesterday. Mrs D was very apprehensive and was ready to kick me if I was rude
“Ok , so give me some examples of how this will help”
“Well it will help get kids to school”
“State issue, not federal”
“It will help against domestic violence”
“State issue, not federal”
“It will help health outcomes”
“State issue, next”
At which point she ran out of steam.
“So you don’t understand our current constitution, why should I listen to you recommending changes to a document you don’t understand?”

I only got a small kick for the last statement.

Kneel
Kneel
September 4, 2023 12:43 pm

“Organic pancake mix.
Is there no end to the horror?”

Organic, free-range honey.
Yes, it really does exist on a label.
FMD.

Roger
Roger
September 4, 2023 12:51 pm

Roger, I wonder if now they will play “You’re The Voice” on repeat instead.

If they’ve learned their lesson they’ll have deleted it from their playlists already.

If…

And if Farnham did give his imprimatur to the song being used in a political campaign he’s tainted his legacy, such as it is.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 12:52 pm

Rod spared.
Child spoiled.

A totally entitled mentality but I don’t necessarily blame the dad for that.
He was trying to help out. But she was high on something and resisting.
Calling the cops was the right thing to do. He’d had enough and good on him.
Why kids do this to often very good parents is complex and not always the parent’s fault. When kids on drugs go for ‘help’ they often get reinforced in a victim mentality and encouraged to use their aggro inventing ‘reasons’ to be against their parents.
I’ve spoken to so many parents tearfully clutching photos of their previously ‘good’ kids. Parents who were loving, boundary setting and conscientiously responsible.

The same sort of thing happens now with gender affirmation. Parents are the bunnies caught in the headlights of these cultural onslaughts.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 12:55 pm

Lotocoti…I watched that all the way through.

She’s done that all her life.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
September 4, 2023 12:58 pm

“The Army doesn’t want them”.

I would have thought that General Camp-Belle would very much enjoy the introduction some under-aged “meat”, entering his sphere of indoctrination.

Roger
Roger
September 4, 2023 1:04 pm

AFR:

‘An internal review of the ABC’s flagship capital city radio stations has recommended the performance of all presenters and hosts be individually assessed to turn around a significant slump in audiences.’

A 30% slump across all markets, reportedly.

As I’ve said before, the day will come, perhaps sooner than imagined, when the ABCs TV & radio audience falls to a point at which its existence and its generous budget can no longer be justified.

Roger
Roger
September 4, 2023 1:06 pm

Ah, well…I see the weather has cleared, meaning I no longer have a reason to avoid my daily constitutional.

Jorge
Jorge
September 4, 2023 1:08 pm

the Australian Cartoonists Association

What ?

Such a leftist move. Form a group. The hive mind in action.

Then use it to pressure others and do a bit of grandstanding.

Why do cartoonists of all people need an association ? So they can gang up on the right targets.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 1:09 pm

The Walkley’s is changing its name to the Wokey’s.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 4, 2023 1:10 pm

Matt toon. 😀

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 4, 2023 1:10 pm

Native Title is already claimed over far too much of the Australian land mass as it is.
Time for some push back, and no better time than a No vote to start the ball rolling.

Probably don’t hope too hard for that.

In the event of ‘No’ at the Referendum, the chances of Team Albanese recalibrating are slight to Nil.

For Labor this exercise has been 97.3% party political, with the expected payoff being a Labor Monument that helps entrench Labor government as ‘the only party capable of delivering whatever it was you voted Yes for’.

The probability of a ‘well, sorry everyone, we completely misread the room and stuffed that one up’ response approaches zero. Instead we can already see the groundwork being laid for exculpatory off-ramps:

1) The politics of division, cynically deployed by those Bastards Opposite;

2) The emergence of Dangerous Far Right tendencies, disturbing the peace, threatening our society, and worrying ASIO sick about the many, many covens of Grampian Gay Garage Nasties and fundamentalist Christians who will stop at nothing and probably need a strong legislative response;

3) Misinformation, spread by sinister foreign Trumpian forces.

Get ready instead for Voice by Other Means, the Department of Makarrata, Healing Treaty – and measures to ensure that unacceptable views are not aired publicly and projected onto the national stage.

Closing the Gap: less of an issue – because the Dutton Monster has destroyed Hope and Goodwill and Politeness and crushed the First Nation’s souls.

Zatara
Zatara
September 4, 2023 1:15 pm

FTB

Score even at the half, then all hell broke loose. My lads are back.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 1:17 pm

Extracting the racist grifters from their “hopes and dreams” will be as interesting as extracting that young person from her dad’s car.

Prepare for much bellowing and accusations of touching private parts…like Swiss bank accounts.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 1:20 pm

That young woman was so composed, so well rehearsed…you’d think she’d practised these argument scenarios with her pals.

She tried every single trick in the book, including a sly dig at her father’s mental health.

Serpent’s teeth and King Lear come to mind.

Frank
Frank
September 4, 2023 1:23 pm

OTOH, is there any famous Aussie song that could be used for No?

Not Australian but the Ramones did I’m Against It. Seems to cover most contingencies and it’s probably more appealing to those with literary aspirations than the Farnham song.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 4, 2023 1:34 pm

Also listened to the Redlands Land rights segment on Outsiders but is first time heard of it.

Should have been fairly big news considering the money Federal Government giving to Aboriginal side to fight local Council who they are not funding.

areff
areff
September 4, 2023 1:36 pm

…the local Coleswoths have removed the front of store posters …

My Local Coles has an indigene flag and a TSI flag atop the cigarette cabinet. No Australian flag though. When i asked the checkout chick why not, she replied: “Boss said just those two”

Passed along for the information of those Cats who have not yet tried Aldi (whose lamb shanks are really good)

Cassie of Sydney
September 4, 2023 1:37 pm

We live in a day and age of progressive transpervert lunacy, where women are lectured to about how we must accept biological male creeps in women only change rooms, in women only hospital wards, in competitive sports, in women only prisons and so on, where women in the UK and some other countries are now expected to have to put up with being stripped searched by some sinister cock in a frock who claims to be a woman. Women need privacy, our female bodies require privacy, whether it involves urination, menstruation, menopause, childbirth, pap smears, breastfeeding and so on.

I write this as I’ve just returned from a mammogram appointment. Every few years we women need to get our breasts checked regularly. Eight years ago I had a bad scare where they mammogram discovered a large lump in one of my breasts. Thankfully the lump ended up being benign but it scares you. The thing is, we women are used to invasive bodily procedures, it’s part and parcel of being BORN female. Men less so. Today I arrived at the clinic, I took off my top and bra, I stand at the x-ray machine with the top half of my body naked, the female nurse picks up one breast at a time and then squashes it down on the machine can it can be x-rayed. It effing hurts, it’s effing uncomfortable. How many men would want to undergo, every two or three years, a situation where they have to take their pants off, allow their penis to be scooped up by a nurse and the penis squashed in between a machine to be x-rayed? I reckon men would not like it one bit. And that’s fine, because I am a woman I know that I have to undergo certain invasive procedures but hear this, I don’t want some creepy cock in a frock handling my breasts in a clinic. If I walked in and it was some pervert in a wig, I’d walk straight out.

I should also say that I have a male doctor, who’s excellent. But this male doctor isn’t some creep who puts on a wig and lipstick and says he’s a woman. Big difference.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 1:39 pm

If Farnhamland is so “picky” about “his” song’s use… then why…

The song has been featured in numerous TV and film productions, including the film Hot Rod, the BBC series Merlin, the film Alan Partridge: Alpha Papa and comedian Peter Kay’s Car Share, and in the Swedish film Medicinen.[33]

The Australian Electoral Commission has used the song in advertisements surrounding Australian State and Federal elections since 2001.[34]

It is also featured in the original release of Grand Theft Auto: Episodes From Liberty City (2001)

Grand theft auto? Real “picky” John…

areff
areff
September 4, 2023 1:45 pm

One of the whining cartoonists is Glenn leLievre, responsible for this vile exercise in anti-semitism

https://www.australianjewishnews.com/fatah-resurrects-le-lievre-cartoon/

WolfmanOz
September 4, 2023 1:48 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 4, 2023 1:37 PM

Many upticks Cassie !

You write so well and to the effing point.

As a male I’m deeply offended by this trans lunacy but I’m not woman and I strongly respect and support women’s rights and their objections to this perversion.

Cassie of Sydney
September 4, 2023 1:52 pm

Glen Le Lievre doesn’t mind some racism, the oldest racism….Jew hatred. I don’t know whether anyone posted this earlier…


Cartoonists hit back at Walkley Awards boycott over fossil fuel links
By SOPHIE ELSWORTH

Walkley Award winner Mark Knight is among a group of cartoonists that has accused colleagues in the industry of “virtue signalling” by boycotting this year’s prestigious media honours because of the event’s links to petroleum company Ampol.

The Herald Sun’s Knight, who was 2022 cartoonist of the year, said the stance by a “left-wing” cohort of cartoonists was disappointing to see and it could have been handled much better.

“The Walkley Foundation now fears that they are being cancelled by the very left-wing cartoonists that they supported for so long, which I think is a great irony,” he told The Australian.

Over the weekend, the Walkley Foundation issued an apology for “racist views” held by the event’s founder, New Zealand-born oil baron, Sir William Gaston Walkley, that were published in a column he wrote in The Sydney Morning Herald 62 years ago.

The foundation’s board also said it was reviewing its sponsorship policies after the backlash erupted.

Knight, who has been a cartoonist for 39 years and has won four Walkley Awards, said the honours should not be destroyed by media activism following many cartoonists voicing their disgust with the event’s sponsorship ties with a fossil fuel company. “The Walkleys are one of the premier media awards in this country and we don’t want to destroy them … it’s a shame to see it damaged in this way,” Knight said.

“It’s another act of virtue signalling by the people, let’s splash it all over social media rather than actually make a change to achieve what we think is right.

“I’ve entered the Walkleys this year and I’ll be sitting at the Ampol table and my diesel ute will be valet parked underneath.

“There’s better ways to do it, they could have gone to the MEAA and said they are not happy about this.”

Ampol is a platinum sponsor of the Walkley Awards, which will be held on November 23.

Knight entered this year’s awards before he even knew of the stance taken by other cartoonists to boycott the event, including The Australian Financial Review’s David Rowe, The Age’s Matt Golding, The Guardian’s First Dog on the Moon, The Mercury’s Chris Downes and Fiona Katauskas, Glen Le Lievre, David Blumenstein, and Andrew Weldon. Weldon wrote on Instagram: “In this era of climate crisis it’s pretty dodgy for major awards for journalism to be sponsored by big oil.

“I’ve withdrawn my Walkley submission along with many other great cartoonists.”

Many of the cartoonists boycotting the Walkleys are also members of the Australian Cartoonists Association, which is led by The Sydney Morning Herald and Age cartoonist Cathy Wilcox. She and Canberra Times cartoonist David Pope wrote a letter to the Walkley Foundation last week, raising their concerns about the Ampol sponsorship.

“The fossil fuel industry uses its sponsorship of our sporting teams and cultural events to build a social license (sic) and distract attention from its role in heating the planet and delaying the transition to renewable energy,” the letter said.

“With what we know about fossil fuel’s direct impact on the climate and the power of greenwashing through sponsorship of popular cultural events, we believe it is vital for the Walkleys of today to break this bond.”

The Australian’s cartoonist, Johannes Leak, who has never before entered the Walkley Awards, decided to submit a last-minute entry when he heard many cartoonists were disgusted with Ampol’s involvement.

“This just shows that they are climate change activists as much as anything else, we’re just supposed to draw funny pictures,” he said. “These prizes to me are political, they don’t call it the Wokeleys for nothing and I always thought it would be a waste of time to be a part of it.”

Sydney’s The Daily Telegraph cartoonist Warren Brown, a car enthusiast and motoring historian, has also entered this year’s awards and he said the boycott was a “churlish, stupid thing to do”.

“I suddenly was getting all these calls from the Walkleys asking me to be a judge and asking if I was going to enter,” he said.

“Wait ’til they find who started the Nobel Peace Prize – Nobel invented dynamite – and I can’t see anyone complaining about that.

“I champion fossil fuels, I can’t have enough of it, I would have my own oil rig in my backyard if I could.”

Arthur Gorrie, a former Queensland representative of the then-Australian Journalists’ Association, now media union MEAA, said he was disappointed to read of the boycott of “the Walkley Awards, started in 1956 by Ampol founder Sir William Walkley, because Ampol sells fossil fuels”.

“I recall president Barry Porter telling of an award nominee whose entry included criticism of Ampol,” he said.

“When union officials explained this potentially awkward situation to Sir William, he said there was no problem. There were no strings attached.”

The Walkley Foundation and Ampol were contacted by The Australian but did not respond.

Brown, Knight and Leak, Australia’s three best cartoonists, know how to throw it back at sanctimonious progressive bullshit. Take note Liberals.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 4, 2023 1:59 pm

Fuller details of the Redlands Shire claim.

If the claim gets up, based on the Quandamooka’s traditional management practices on Stradbroke and Moreton islands, access to everything not private property or a gazetted road will be shut off and allowed to ‘rewild’ amidst unresolvable clan in-fighting.

Not sure how this will all work in Wynnum and Manly, the bayside suburbs of Meanjin, or along the reclaimed land of the Port of Brisbane. Or what benefit it will bring to anyone.

But it’s the future we are being asked to embrace politely.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 2:05 pm

Lol! This Lefty blog has lots of (monty types) crying in their beer about latest voice results:

https://www.pollbludger.net/2023/09/03/newspoll-53-47-to-labor-open-thread/comment-page-5/#comments

Don’t bother commenting on the blog, its more censorious that the Peoples’ DRNK…

Bill From the Bush
Bill From the Bush
September 4, 2023 2:11 pm

Cassie @1:37
Having been through the prostate cancer process, I have a better appreciation of the indignities that women routinely go through from the medical process. ADT with its associated hot flushes was, shall we say, an interesting experience for a couple of years but not quite as uncomfortable as the ultra sound probe invasion for the biopsy and then again for the gold implants.
The alternative of doing nothing however was not an option so, like many others I put on my big boys pants and took it.
Your reference to a penis squashing x-ray did make me squirm a tad, so here’s hoping no mad medico thinks of that idea.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 4, 2023 2:13 pm

The Guardian’s owner apologises for historical slave trade links

First Flog on the Moon has 12 hours to resign, or stand accused of profiting from the legacy of slavery.

Johnny Rotten
September 4, 2023 2:14 pm

What does the King have to say about all this land belonging to someone else?

He’ll probably say that he doesn’t reign over Austria……………………………..

pete of perth
pete of perth
September 4, 2023 2:21 pm

Sign at the nine arches bridge Ella. “Warning, drones maybe attacked by wasps”. Have yet to see a drone here.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 4, 2023 2:27 pm

Mates son just quit the army
Joined just in time for covid buggery arseing about.
Final straw is the number of cocks in frocks he was expected to salute each day.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 4, 2023 2:33 pm

Lawyers for newspapers who won defamation trial against former soldier say he attempted to ‘conceal the truth’
Lauren FerriNCA NewsWire
Mon, 4 September 2023 12:26P

Lawyers for Nine Newspapers say Ben Roberts-Smith caused his multimillion-dollar defamation trial to be “grossly prolonged”, as it was directed towards “concealing the truth” as the battle over the estimated $25m legal bill rolls on.

The decorated former soldier sued The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times over a series of articles published in 2018 that accused him of war crimes.

In June, Federal Court Justice Anthony Besanko dismissed the proceedings after finding the six articles proved – on the balance of probabilities – the most serious imputations.

After a marathon trial, it has been estimated that the legal bill for both sides will top $25m.

In June, Mr Roberts-Smith’s lawyers told the court the former soldier had agreed to pay the costs of the failed case on an indemnity basis from March 17, 2020.

However, the soldier argued that he shouldn’t pay indemnity costs prior to March 17, 2020.

Indemnity costs are ordered when the court considers one party should pay almost all the expenses of the proceedings because of the way the trial was conducted.

On Monday, lawyers for both sides returned to court where Nicholas Owens SC, representing Nine Newspapers, argued that Mr Roberts-Smith had caused the proceedings to be “grossly prolonged”.

“The applicant didn’t simply sit back and say ‘well, you prove these very serious allegations’, he gave a positive account himself,” Mr Owens said.

“He defended over a week of cross-examination, he called multiple witnesses over a period of almost two months, cross-examined our witnesses over a period of some months.”

Mr Owens said the soldier and his witnesses portrayed a “deliberate pattern of conduct … to both conceal relevant evidence and to propound false evidence.

He made reference to Justice Besanko’s judgment, which found Mr Roberts-Smith and multiple witnesses told “various lies” to the court.

“(They) are specific instances of improper and unreasonable conduct of the litigation by the applicant and they provide their own basis for an indemnity costs order,” Mr Owens said.

Arthur Moses SC, representing Mr Roberts-Smith, argued the “onus” of providing the defences lay with the newspapers.

“And the onus was a heavy one,” he said.

Mr Moses called into question the presumption of innocence, telling Justice Besanko the newspapers “persisted in running articles” where his client was portrayed as a war criminal.

The publication of the articles put Mr Roberts-Smith in an “impossible predicament”, Mr Moses argued, saying his client is entitled to the “presumption of innocence”.

“Now, he was required to either do nothing or to take some steps. He did commence these proceedings to protect his reputation and attempt to put a stop to the publication that he was a war criminal and a domestic violence offender,” Mr Moses said.

“The media were not entitled to go around publishing these articles in circumstances where he was entitled to that presumption of innocence.”

But Mr Owens said the presumption of innocence did not operate as some “overriding prohibition” on the publication of articles.

He said the argument could not be used as a justification for why Mr Roberts-Smith began the proceedings.

Justice Besanko reserved his decision on whether the court would make an indemnity order.

Mr Roberts-Smith is appealing Justice Besanko’s decision, with a hearing in front of a full-court bench next year.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 2:36 pm

The Kouk is reporting that Australia will likely “be in a per capita recession on Wednesday”

Speedbox
September 4, 2023 2:37 pm

Lysander
Sep 4, 2023 2:05 PM

Holy smoke. Went and read some of the comments. Who are these people?!

Zatara
Zatara
September 4, 2023 2:37 pm

Every male and 3 females of the last 3 generations of my family have served, some to senior rank. 3 serve in the navy today.

None plan to serve longer than their current contract.

It has nothing to do with benefits or pay.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 4, 2023 2:39 pm

Organic, free-range honey.

Yes there is.
It’s usually island sourced.

johanna
johanna
September 4, 2023 2:40 pm

Farmer Gez
Sep 4, 2023 7:35 AM

John Farnham recorded The Voice but it was written by a four high profile English songwriter/musicians.
Farnham is a bit guilty of presenting a one pager himself.

Fair point, Gez. BTW, who wrote My Way? Hint – it wasn’t Frank Sinatra. Who wrote New York, New York? Hint – it wasn’t Frank Sinatra.

Are you accusing Frank of some nefarious act?

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 2:41 pm

Speedy,
I visit the blog as the guy who runs it is a former acquaintance… but, visiting the blog gives you a bit of insight into how these morons think… and I love that they’re beginning to turn on Elbow. Its like popcorn time, with extra butter. 🙂

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 4, 2023 2:48 pm

Australian Cartoonists Association, which is led by The Sydney Morning Herald and Age cartoonist Cathy Wilcox. She and Canberra Times cartoonist David Pope …

Is there a less talented group in Australia? Throw in Kudelka, First Dog on the Moon and so on. Barely employable, even by the Jewish Vanity Press.

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 4, 2023 2:49 pm

You’re the voice was co-written by New Zealander Chris Thompson who may be remembered as lead singer of Manfred Mann’s Earthband. I believe it was written as a tribute to nuclear disarmament protests in the 80s that the writers supported. That may or may not be correct. Can’t be bothered checking on Wikipedia.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 4, 2023 2:50 pm

Great game Zatara.
Jared Verse.
Awesome to watch.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 2:54 pm

One other thing…

The “No” vote getting up with enthuse the Left’s desire to progress its misinformation agenda…

johanna
johanna
September 4, 2023 2:56 pm

Been meaning to post this for ages – Dame Edna interviews k d lang. It’s a hoot. The Grande Dame asks k d when she realised that she was … you need to watch it to find out.

k d seems to be quite sane and grounded considering that she is a very successful and respected singer. Most of them are flakier than baklava in a hurricane. Plus, she has a sense of humour. Canadians (well, the original ones) are largely Scots-descended, so SOH may be optional.

Vale, Barry. And, as to those head lice who trashed his name at the Melbourne ‘Comedy’ Festival, you will be remebered for all the wrong reasons.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 4, 2023 2:57 pm

Purely hypothetical now. Had I stayed in Melbournibad I doubt I would have bothered replacing my car. Probable garage: an e-bike, 300cc scooter and a Hayabusa for weekend trips. Rent a car twice a year for country holidays.

Zatara
Zatara
September 4, 2023 2:57 pm

ftb

He’s a monster no doubt. Fun guy to chat to as well.

win
win
September 4, 2023 2:58 pm

Speaking of Mamograms and those who teach the technicians. Here in Queensland it has been normal that the breast is reduced to the maximum thinness the Xray is taken and with out fail has to be done again. In view of the fact I had an English girl whose Xray was perfect with none of the sadistic procedures usually employed I now ask the ghouls where they are trained ,invariably its the QUT. You dont have to have paper thin breasts to find cancer.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 3:10 pm

She’s done that all her life.

I tend to agree in her case, Calli. Possibly a situation of a split family, mum vs dad sort of thing, playing them off against each other until dad’s finally pulled the plug. She’s got all the arguments of the hyper-indulged with additional hallmarks of the left-wing cultural tolerance, trying even to do a George Floyd with the ‘I can’t breathe meme’ at the end of it all. The cops were icons of patience with her, so far has the culture of litigation grabbed hold of policing. Even so, the shock of arrest will do her good.

If people here think that I tolerate this sort of behaviour, mental illness and/or drugged out state notwithstanding, let me disabuse them of that thought. I do what I think is helpful without encouraging dependence, in fact holding out hope that a worklife future is always possible. Additionally though, I have always advised keeping the lines of communication open and in the case of the father above, I would still advise that. But on his terms, his negotiation. Bravo, sir, I would say. You’ve made the first step away from her game-playing.

There have been too many funerals where those lines of communication have been swept away by a parental ideology of righteousness over bad behaviour where all contact has been lost and the child falls into utter despair at the final break. Tough love has its place, but also its limits. Faults on both sides can be recognised and healed.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
September 4, 2023 3:15 pm

I’ve found the perfect depiction of the Voice.

See here

Protagonists:

The bird: Albanese and Co
The birds proposition: The Voice
The cat: The average Australian taxpayer/voter

Enjoy 🙂

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 3:16 pm

Fair question…?

Where is John Farnham? Is it odd that only a press release came out? Surely, people would be lining up to interview him… but… crickets…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 3:16 pm

You dont have to have paper thin breasts to find cancer.

Thanks, Win. I’ve noticed that my recent mammograms haven’t had the extreme and painful pressure that previous ones have had. Perhaps the message is getting through.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 4, 2023 3:22 pm

I just had one of those oh shiite moments on the way back from the shops. I wasn’t passing an aircon installer if thats what you think. A little kiddy on his bike coming home from school with older brother and sister rode straight across in front with out looking. How I missed him I don’t know. He was too little and the siblings were on either side of the road.

johanna
johanna
September 4, 2023 3:22 pm

The whole of Canberra is one big middle finger to the rest of Australia well exemplified by the shape of the Parliament House. The people populating the city, staffers and advisers, are far from the general population in attitudes and interests that they cannot know how the rest of us live and what we think.

I don’t know what the solution to this is as even the staffers and advisors brought from the regions soon get absorbed by the Canberra blob. One thing that could help is to hire older staffers who at least have some life experiences apart from social media savvy. I have ranted about this previously that ditzy twenty-somethings are not suited to purpose but seem the only ones who are hired.

Here we go again.

Firstly, the ‘whole of Canberra’ is not responsible for the elected politicians sent there from all over the country. Whatever electorate or State you are in, you sent them there.

Secondly, the ACT economy is not completely a creature of government, in fact less than half of it is, and the percentage is decreasing all the time.

Thirdly, the reason that staffers are overwhelmingly young and unmarried is that they work brutal hours, are always on call, may have to jump on a plane with an hour’s notice, and are in general not suited to being partners, let alone parents.

People in stable relationships, with children, quite rightly don’t want these jobs.

Get used to it.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 3:24 pm

On Sky this arvo (before dark!) Andrew Clennell has said “the voice is over.”

I just hope (this is true) but that Aussies don’t get too comfortable with it over the next four weeks and let their guard down…

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 3:28 pm

Thirdly, the reason that staffers are overwhelmingly young and unmarried is that they work brutal hours, are always on call, may have to jump on a plane with an hour’s notice, and are in general not suited to being partners, let alone parents.

Yep, totally, I’ve lived this life (with a wife and four kids) and the two don’t go together very well! I particularly remember one wedding anniversary where I had to jump on a plane… lost some browny points there…

johanna
johanna
September 4, 2023 3:28 pm

If people here think that I tolerate this sort of behaviour, mental illness and/or drugged out state notwithstanding, let me disabuse them of that thought. I do what I think is helpful without encouraging dependence, in fact holding out hope that a worklife future is …

Blah, blah, blah, me, me, me.

Turgid prose with the sole aim of puffing up the author.

Adds absolutely nothing to the sum total of human knowledge. Me! Me! Me!

Just self serving sludge.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 3:30 pm

Women put up with a hell of a lot of invasive investigations and procedures.

I doubt that there is anything more invasive than a forceps birth.

Still, you get a baby as a reward. So we carry on.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 3:31 pm

One sort of behaviour I definitely do not tolerate is STALKING, STALKER.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 3:40 pm

I hope it is clear that I have had two year’s counselling experience and a level of training advising on tearaway kids, just as others have had with mammograms, or other health matters.

Therefore I try to make clear the various positions I hold regarding this.
Also including some experiences of my own, which drew me to this work.
People are then free to agree or disagree, adding their own arguments.

I also know a psychologically fixated stalker when I come across one.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 3:41 pm

Proscuitto is voting NO!!!

*miracles happen.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 3:43 pm

Tell a stalker they are stalking and hang up, was the advice I recall receiving in training.

So, click.

NFA
NFA
September 4, 2023 3:43 pm

A Banned IP 116.90.74.156

bons
bons
September 4, 2023 3:45 pm

I have no intention of “getting used to it”.
The system is putrid and is a welcome home for the type of young arrogant thugs that occupy so many of these pollie related positions.
They are not dedicated young driven people, they are apparatchiks on power kicks seeking professional political careers. The Higgins thing exposed the typicalbnature of these horrible creatures.
Taking on these people straight from university is a disaster for the national interest.
The ACT private economy may not be as directly Government dependant as in the past, but it is almost exclusively related to taxpayer expenditure indirectly, past and present.
The middle finger analogy is an astute and accurate definition.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 4, 2023 3:46 pm

Lysander losing browny points for hopping on a plane is understandable, I used to go fishing. No problem.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 3:48 pm

Lol Ranga!

I’m beginning to wonder how we are going to have actual policy debates once the Invoice is dead, buried, cremated…

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 4, 2023 3:49 pm

Good article by Frank Ching up at news com au about NZ PM saying nobody had to take the vaccines.

Could be writing about Australia as well.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 3:53 pm

Work is work – losing valuable family time when it calls is part of the deal. Disappointing, but that’s the price of the pay packet.

I’ve known women who’ve refused to relocate when husbands get an interstate, or even intrastate promotion. They didn’t work themselves, just refused to up stakes. All too difficult. And then whined when their man didn’t get the job they thought he deserved.

Opportunity with a chance of adventure. The motto is “don’t die wondering”. 🙂

Dot
Dot
September 4, 2023 3:54 pm

A Banned IP 116.90.74.156

???

What?

How do you know this and what does it prove?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 4, 2023 3:55 pm

I had a bit to do with ministerial staffers back in the 1990s. Those I knew were generally mature, I suspect that they had families (we stuck to business), and they knew that the minister, not them, was the boss.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 4, 2023 3:55 pm

Johanna its not so much the polititians as the APS. I’ve never come across such an entitled bunch of so and so’s. Most of them couldn’t hold down a job in private enterprise. The majority of the work cough they do cough is completely unnecessary. Its a make work scheme.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 3:56 pm

On the other side of the coin, I know a few whose husbands are FIFOs.

Life assumed a predictable and pleasant rhythm until…retirement. Then it’s “what do I do with him now?”.

Zatara
Zatara
September 4, 2023 3:58 pm

Work is work – losing valuable family time when it calls is part of the deal.

Don’t want to loose that family time? Get out of the city, onto the land, and start raising things people eat. It takes a family to do that properly and all those bizarre ‘we hate the world’ things can wait until the chores are done.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 3:58 pm

Oh, and write down the time and date of the call on the Call Sheet made for notes re every call. The number could then be blocked to allow people seeking help or simply some information to get a go rather than someone running interference.

Cassie of Sydney
September 4, 2023 3:59 pm

Johnny Pesutto is voting NO.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 4:00 pm

Dot, it’s a NZ company. Is this about trolling here? I haven’t noticed any odd stuff, unless it’s on another thread.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 4, 2023 4:00 pm

What’s this actual policy debate when there’s so much grifting to do. If only the vooce had got up none of this wodda happened. Its not my fault all you lot failed, yadda yadda.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 4, 2023 4:01 pm

Voice

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 4:02 pm

and they knew that the minister, not them, was the boss.

Best advice I ever heard was from Minister’s Chief back to the Minister (upon seeing some advice that the public sector had given us) was “Nothing wrong with going against public service advice. None of them vote, or will ever vote, for us.”

Dot
Dot
September 4, 2023 4:08 pm

calli I have NFI what NFA is banging on about.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 4, 2023 4:10 pm

Bourne1879 Sep 4, 2023 3:49 PM
Good article by Frank Ching up at news com au about NZ PM saying nobody had to take the vaccines.

An NZ account I casually follow has dug up a directive Hipkins issued when Health Minister. The directive to get jabbed is very clear & unmistakeable.

Then again, the health staff weren’t forced. They had to be jabbed only if they wanted keep their jobs, pension, benefits, etc.

Notable yesterday on social media was a former publican taking it up to Hipkins in public, about what the mandates cost some people.

johanna
johanna
September 4, 2023 4:12 pm

bons
Sep 4, 2023 3:45 PM

I have no intention of “getting used to it”.
The system is putrid and is a welcome home for the type of young arrogant thugs that occupy so many of these pollie related positions.
They are not dedicated young driven people, they are apparatchiks on power kicks seeking professional political careers. The Higgins thing exposed the typicalbnature of these horrible creatures.
Taking on these people straight from university is a disaster for the national interest.
The ACT private economy may not be as directly Government dependant as in the past, but it is almost exclusively related to taxpayer expenditure indirectly, past and present.
The middle finger analogy is an astute and accurate definition.

What are you going to do about it? Introduce legislation that specifies that political staffers have to be over a certain age, have private sector experience, and be married with children and a mortgage?

Railing against things you don’t like is one thing, which is what student activists do.

Providing workable alternatives is what adults do.

Any suggestions?

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 4:12 pm

I’m 100% certain that “talking points” were sent out to a whole range of people regarding Farnham’s song… They think we’re mugs but I have come across about 50+ “talking heads” (celebs, unions etc..) all using the same line today about the ad:

“This made me cry”

Please…

Johnny Rotten
September 4, 2023 4:13 pm

This hoe the Public Service doesn’t work –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAk448volww

Comedy does it Best.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
September 4, 2023 4:16 pm

Just saw a chap on a blog who brought up 9/11.

He reminded me of the fact that, three buildings, fell virtually within their own footprint, in a matter of hours, after being hit by TWO aircraft.

I did a quick search on YT and actually found the (in)famous video of the BBC reporter, speaking late in the afternoon, reporting that the Saloman Bros Building had collapsed, ……, blah, blah, blah.
The problem was, it is visible in the background as she is speaking. OOPS!

Nothing to see here plebs, ….., move along. Just be afraid of the invisible enemy.
(Covid anyone?)

In 1945, a Superfortress, (B-29), hit the Empire State Building. Amazingly, it didn’t collapse within seven hours, into its own footprint.

I have watched several shows, with engineers explaining how odd, the 9/11 scenario was. They all give examples of other buildings, that have suffered large fires, that did not collapse AT ALL, let alone into their own footprint.

I see the geniuses in charge of the US Emergency Responses are now claiming they were “unprepared” for cyclone Idalia.
Sure, who’d have thought, a cyclone during cyclone season, where cyclones regularly hit.
Bugger me, ……., must be Climate Change, ……, right?

Dot
Dot
September 4, 2023 4:20 pm

Speaking of conspiracy theories and terrorist attacks, this is good reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowing_Up_Russia

Blowing Up Russia: Terror from Within (Russian: ??? ???????? ??????, FSB blows Russia up) is a book written by Alexander Litvinenko and Yuri Felshtinsky.[1] The authors describe the Russian apartment bombings as a false flag operation that was guided by the Russian Federal Security Service to justify the Second Chechen War and bring Vladimir Putin to power. The story was initially printed by Yuri Shchekochikhin in a special issue of Novaya Gazeta in August 2001[2] and published as a book in 2002. In Russia the book was prohibited because it divulged state secrets, and it was included in the Federal List of Extremist Materials.[3] However, it was published in more than twenty other countries and translated into twenty languages.[4]

Zatara
Zatara
September 4, 2023 4:20 pm

In 1945, a Superfortress, (B-29), hit the Empire State Building. Amazingly, it didn’t collapse within seven hours, into its own footprint.

No, it was a B-25, less than half the weight.

So what’s your point?

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 4:21 pm

“This made me cry”

I blame the bagpipes.

Has that effect on me too.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 4:22 pm

GB!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 4, 2023 4:24 pm

I have come across about 50+ “talking heads” (celebs, unions etc..) all using the same line today about the ad:

“This made me cry”

Please…

Engaged a few last night on social media. Most respectfully, however firm in my “No” stance.

Their response was instructive. About half blocked me cold, without engaging. The remainder launched into calling me, racist, dickhead, bigot, intolerant, spiteful, & quite a bit of foul language.

Some of these hold national roles in media, or have a national profile.

Not one engaged even respectfully or civilly. Not one.
Not even to “We disagree” or “I’ll maintain my Yes opinion, you’re entitled to have yours”

Except one, Rhys Muldoon.

Johnny Rotten
September 4, 2023 4:25 pm

This is how I mean…………

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 4, 2023 4:25 pm

I blame the bagpipes.
Has that effect on me too.

Bad answer Calli, very bad. Unless you’re referring to Northumbrian smallpipes, Breton pipes, or somesuch screeching instrument.

Tom
Tom
September 4, 2023 4:26 pm

Johnny Pesutto is voting NO.

To the apartheid referendum or to Moira Deeming?

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 4:27 pm

Johnny Pesutto is voting NO.

What a political coward. Had to wait for Newspoll to confirm it was dead in the water before “coming out”

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 4, 2023 4:30 pm

Sqwark

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 4, 2023 4:32 pm

Johnny Pesutto is voting NO.

I wonder what size skin suit he wears?

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 4:33 pm

Oh look, there’s a flying saucer!

No, it’s just US intel making up bullshit.

As we mentioned in our earlier piece, there is a fascinating documentary called “Mirage Men” chronicling the US Government’s strategic use of UFO stories in order to distract the public from focusing on things that are deemed to threaten national security.

https://revolver.news/2023/09/former-state-dept-official-ufo-stories-are-a-sanctioned-counter-intelligence-technique/

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 4:33 pm

Chuckle. Love the skirl of the pipes. But not associated with racist grift.

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 4, 2023 4:33 pm

How many B-25s would fit into a 757 and 767 with all their fuel?

Is this still an issue? (Form an orderly queue behind SSR please).

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 4, 2023 4:34 pm

Had to wait for Newspoll to confirm it was dead in the water before “coming out”

Try that at Mardi Gras and find yourself walking on the night.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 4:34 pm

H B Bear
Sep 4, 2023 4:32 PM

Johnny Pesutto is voting NO.

I wonder what size skin suit he wears?

I feel there’s a great void without having Eddersly giving us the flamer lowdown.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 4, 2023 4:37 pm

Had to wait for Newspoll to confirm it was dead in the water before “coming out”

So spineless he’s even useless as a weather vane.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 4:40 pm

Dover, how does the WSJ editorial figure out next to your election/ poll comments.

The GOP’s Big 2024 Problem
A WSJ poll finds indictments are helping Trump in the Republican primaries, but not with all voters.

By The Editorial Board

Sept. 3, 2023 2:01 pm ET

The latest Wall Street Journal poll is getting headlines for its news that support for Donald Trump nationwide is now up to 59% in the GOP primary race. But for our money the most important harbinger for 2024 is contained in the responses to another survey question.

The poll finds that in a 2024 general-election test President Biden and the former President are tied at 46%. Given Mr. Trump’s myriad legal problems, this shows how weak an incumbent Mr. Biden is. But a poll this far out from Election Day also doesn’t tell you much given how events can change.

The better insight comes when respondents were asked: “Do Donald Trump’s indictments make you more likely or less likely to vote for him, or have no impact on whether or not you would vote for Donald Trump?”

Among Republican primary voters, here are the responses: More likely to vote for Mr. Trump 48%; less likely 16%, and no effect on their vote 36%.

That result confirms what we’ve seen this year, which is that the indictments by Democratic prosecutors are helping Mr. Trump win the GOP’s presidential nod. The biggest jump in Mr. Trump’s support came after the first indictment for hush-money payments by Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg, and the other indictments changed that very little. This is exactly the result that Democrats want: Keep the focus on Mr. Trump so he wins the nomination, and then convict him in trials before the general election in November.

That strategy is reinforced by the responses when the WSJ survey asked registered voters the same question about the indictments. Their responses: 24% were more likely to vote for Mr. Trump, but 37% were less likely, and 35% said it would have no effect.

The Republican peril is that more than one-and-a-half times as many voters say the indictments make them less likely to vote for Mr. Trump than more likely. This reflects the tilt of independent voters, as well as the 16% of GOP voters who say the indictments make them less likely to vote for Mr. Trump.

These responses are before any of the coming four trials, three of which are already scheduled before the 2024 general election. An acquittal or hung jury could work in Mr. Trump’s favor, which is why the Democratic indictment strategy is high risk.

But one or more convictions would probably confirm the judgment of voters who say they are less likely to vote for Mr. Trump. If Republicans nominate Mr. Trump, they are likely to be sailing into a political headwind that will be difficult to overcome.

Jorge
Jorge
September 4, 2023 4:41 pm

Rufus, an SBS program last night offered various reasons from engineers on why the collapse occurred in the way it did. Not saying I found it convincing but some of the reasons were that the fireproof coating on the steel was contracted to a company run by a shady mafia guy who had been found to have cut corners on previous contracts. An investigator claimed when she looked at some of the steel beams that were salvaged afterwards the powder coating rubbed off in her hands. Also the debris from the plane impacting the building removed the fireproof coating. No explanation or proof offered. The open plan floors didn’t help. About a third of the fuel on board collected like a giant swimming pool on one floor. Again, no proof or evidence given, it was just mentioned as if it was a fact.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 4, 2023 4:42 pm

I feel there’s a great void without having Eddersly giving us the flamer lowdown.

Groogs did bring a unique perspective. Gone and best forgotten.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 4:45 pm

Munted doesn’t visit when there’s “bad news” afoot.

Dot
Dot
September 4, 2023 4:45 pm

JC

Richard Doty is old news.

I don’t believe Elizondo, Graves, Fravor & Salas are covert intel operatives or insane.

Grusch I’m not sure about.

I like this Burchett character.

Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn) said the group — comprising Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla), Moskowitz and himself — will likely not get another opportunity for a hearing unless Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) designates a select committee on UAPs as they have requested.

That select committee would give subpoena powers to force leaders in the Department of Defense and others to testify and push past the “roadblocks” the group has faced so far in seeing classified material and getting timely responses, Burchett said.

“We’re running into a lot of roadblocks there, and that’s the problem with this whole thing. It just creates more and more conspiracy theories because our federal government is so arrogant and so bloated, and they’ll just run out the clock,” Burchett said. “I’m guilty of this as well, but Americans want their pizzas in 30 minutes or less, and that’s about our dadgum attention span.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4157124-bipartisan-house-group-pushes-for-select-committee-classified-hearings-into-ufos/

There are tens of trillions of dollars of “missing” Pentagon money. There is radar and FLIR readings that correlate to the witnesses and the missing money.

It’s worth investigating. Gaetz put himself out there with his testimony.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 4:46 pm

Groogs did bring a unique perspective. Gone and best forgotten.
Lysander Avatar

How can you when he called out Napoleon as a flamer? That’s one of the biggest flamer calls I’ve ever seen.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 4:50 pm

Good law. Imagine this monkey on your back.

Drunk drivers who are convicted of intoxication manslaughter will now need to pay child support if they kill a parent or guardian of a child in a car crash, according to a new Texas law that went into effect on Sept. 1.

The law was a bipartisan bill that Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican, signed in June.

“Any time a parent passes is tragic, but a death at the hands of a drunk driver is especially heinous,” Mr. Abbott said at the time. “I was proud to sign HB 393 into law this year to require offenders to pay child support for the children of their victims.”

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 4, 2023 4:52 pm

What a fantastic law in Texas.

Figures
Figures
September 4, 2023 5:01 pm

Funny how nobody ever asks why men virtually never get breast cancer (it isn’t tissue mass because there’s no correlation between breast size and cancer).

This one question proves that all medical theories outside German New Medicine are abject lunacy.

I guess that’s why nobody ever asks it.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 4, 2023 5:01 pm

Battery story.
On the rider-mower today and felt the mower hit something in the grass by a fence, I looked back and saw a small puff of smoke rise in the wet green grass.
I checked out the situation.
Laying in the grass was my missing Makita tech gun (don’t ask) and it’s battery that had become detached when the mower blade hit it.
I quickly picked up the gun and left the battery which was now on fire. The battery burned like a blow torch, eventually blowing its casing apart.
This small battery put on quite a show. My thoughts immediately turned to the extreme danger big batteries would be in an accident. It’s bloody madness to have these incendiary devices widespread in a place like Australia.
BTW – the tech gun is still good.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 4, 2023 5:07 pm
JC
JC
September 4, 2023 5:09 pm

Figures, men don’t have functioning tits. They’re just residual crap left on male chests because God was too lazy to scrub them off. You’re thinking too hard.

NFA
NFA
September 4, 2023 5:10 pm

Banned IP’s

116.90.74.156

116.90.74.158

116.90.74.125

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 4, 2023 5:11 pm

What a fantastic law in Texas.

Yes it is.

If they enacted something like this anywhere in this wide brown land the legislation would be full to the brim with caveats about ‘except in cases of hardship’ and all sorts of other detritus.

About ten years ago in the NT a law was brought in that the parents of rowdy (aka car thieving, window smashing, house-breaking-into) youth would be financially liable for their offspring’s damage. It was marketed by the AG at the time that ‘the parents will lose their big screen TVs if their kids misbehave and cause loss to others’.

Sure as eggs, when the legislation finally passed it was chockers with the abovementioned ‘except in cases of’, inevitably resulting in a flood of Legal Aid and various indig legal agency applications made under those very circumstances.

Accordingly, all the layabout parents etc kept their big screens, the legislation was repealed as useless and the rowdiness remained (and remains) unchecked.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 4, 2023 5:12 pm

Banned IP:

86.75.30 niiii-eee-iiiine

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 5:13 pm

On 9/11, “interesting” that Biden isn’t attending any official service of remembrance?

He’ll be in Alaska which is just about as far away from NYC as you can get.

(I note George Dubya X 2 and Obama x 1 didn’t attend NYC but still had a ceremony at the White House)…

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 4, 2023 5:13 pm

Rufus T

In 1945, a Superfortress, (B-29), hit the Empire State Building. Amazingly, it didn’t collapse within seven hours, into its own footprint.

It was a B-25, a much smaller, twin engine (not a massive four engine) aircraft.

Tom
Tom
September 4, 2023 5:15 pm

Hahaha. Sharri Markson on Sky reports, in spite of lies to the contrary, John Farnham’s song The Voice has been used repeatedly in advertisements over the past 20 years to flog everything from chocolate to cars.

The campaign strategy of the Yes vote is that voters are too stupid to realise they’re being lied to.

That’s why, in the absence of massive cheating by the AEC, the referendum will go down in flames on October 14.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 5:18 pm

There is a correlation between oestrogen levels and breast cancer.
Is is not strong for added oestrogen tho’ as in HRT, but it is there.
Being female is a risk factor for breast cancer.

Being male is not.

Men do produce some oestrogen, that’s normal. There would be outliers.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 4, 2023 5:20 pm

Test.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 5:22 pm

That’s why, in the absence of massive cheating by the AEC, the referendum will go down in flames on October 14.

Hope you are right, Tom. A No vote could be the start of a claw back on many of Labor’s excesses, such as net zero, not just those regarding aboriginal people (stopping the First Nations terminology for a start), and bring some proper auditing to aboriginal spending.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 5:23 pm

Boambee John
Sep 4, 2023 5:13 PM

Rufus T

In 1945, a Superfortress, (B-29), hit the Empire State Building. Amazingly, it didn’t collapse within seven hours, into its own footprint.

It was a B-25, a much smaller, twin engine (not a massive four engine) aircraft.

Also, the Empire state is built like a brick shithouse.

I worked at 11 Madison ave, which was the sister building of the Empire State, but because of the Great Depression they stopped construction at about 30 storeys. A direct hit by an A Bomb and the freaking thing would still be there. There’s no comparison between the Empire State and the WTC. Shut up Bird.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 5:33 pm

Just wow. The heady days of the teen years. 11 Madison takes up the entire block from Park Ave south and Madison Ave as well as the two cross streets. It’s a massive lateral building but only goes up 30 levels.

Look at the price this thing was sold for in 2015.

In 2015, after a decade of ownership and stewardship The Sapir Organization closed the sale of 11 Madison to SL Green for $2.6B, which was a record price for any single asset transaction in the American real estate market.

Eleven Madison Avenue is a 30-story, 2.3m sf office tower situated on a full city block between Park Avenue South and Madison Avenue, and 24th and 25th Streets. Located in Manhattan’s Midtown South neighborhood, the building is adjacent to the vibrant Madison Square Park and is within steps of many of the neighborhood’s fine restaurants and shopping locations. The property is also home to the world-renowned Eleven Madison Park.

The Sapir Organization acquired the property for $675m in 2003. In 2014, The Sapir Organization successfully negotiated a 20-year term lease renewal for Credit Suisse that kept their U.S headquarters at 11 Madison. Under Sapir’s management, 11 Madison became the headquarters for several marquee firms such as Sony, Yelp, William Morris Endeavors and others.

During Sapir’s ownership NOi tripled from $40m to $120m. Building occupancy was also increased to approximately 98%. This represents a 3.85x 12-year return over the initial purchase price. The sale marked one of the most valuable single asset transaction in American real estate history.

They wouldn’t get half that now.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 4, 2023 5:34 pm

The campaign strategy of the Yes vote is that voters are too stupid to realise they’re being lied to.

Albanese and the First Nations elite have encouraged the Uluru Statement to be all things to all people:

– A polite recognition;
– An advisory group on limited issues;
– An advisory group inputting into all three levels of government on any issue;
– Very modest;
– A means to self determination;
– Assumption of responsibility by indigenous communities;
– No service delivery function or responsibility whatever.

The important takeaway is a No theme song by Jeff Beck.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 4, 2023 5:34 pm

Labor Day holiday in the US.
Put away your white jeans JC.

Dot
Dot
September 4, 2023 5:37 pm

Bizarre. I like Americans but they’re neurotic.

https://www.farmersalmanac.com/wear-white-after-labor-day-35950

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 4, 2023 5:37 pm

We’ve just brought Attapuss back from the vets after the final checkup on his dental surgery. He’s managed to remove a suture eating his kibbles which he was allowed for the first time yesterday (driven us mad for a week pleading for them), but it is still healing well. He survived the indignity of having his temperature taken, cat style.
.
The Rose Bay vets have gone for segregation, or is that diversity? A big new sign bisects the waiting room into one area for dogs and another area for cats. Other species, take your pick. Rather like 72 genders. It was a bit bewildering for a man bringing in both a dog and an old sick cat. Like Sophie’s Choice, one can only hope it wasn’t for a death jab. He chose cats, dragging his frisky little midget dog behind him.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 5:38 pm

feelthebern
Sep 4, 2023 5:34 PM

Labor Day holiday in the US.
Put away your white jeans JC.

We’re heading to Miami for Thanksgiving so won’t stick them away entirely. 🙂

I freaking hate US holidays causing the markets to close.

Speedbox
September 4, 2023 5:38 pm

Farmer Gez
Sep 4, 2023 5:01 PM
The battery burned like a blow torch, eventually blowing its casing apart. My thoughts immediately turned to the extreme danger big batteries would be in an accident.

It’s a really interesting question. No doubt you’ve seen the various news reports of houses destroyed by electric scooter fires. There are many Youtube videos of electric motorcycles catching fire in China; or the car carrying ship that nearly sank when one of the electric cars caught fire and that fire soon spread.

EV fires are not common, they’re actually quite rare at present, but EVs are also a relatively new feature on our roads. I’m wondering about the incidence of fire as the EVs and their batteries age. Ninety five percent of EV battery fires are ignition events with jet-like directional flames, as you witnessed, except bigger. As we know, putting those fires out is extremely difficult and the handy dry powder extinguisher is useless (unless you happen to have tonnes of the stuff lying around and a means to dump those tonnes instantly).

This is a big issue looming on the horizon. My biggest concern is the risk of fire occurring in the basement carpark of a multi-storey residential building, in the middle of the night. One car, then two, then three and before you know it, the entire building is alight. The consequences could be potentially awful.

By the way – imagine you are an insurance company. What is your premium to insure a ship carrying 3000 EVs? Or to insure a home or residential building that has EV charging facilities – or just allows EVs in the garage/undercroft carpark? Perhaps, in time, one of the requirements for insurance coverage will be separate charging and storage of an EV that is away from the primary building.

Lysander
Lysander
September 4, 2023 5:39 pm

Albanese and the First Nations elite have encouraged the Uluru Statement to be all things to all people:

And in doing so Elbow wedged himself. Far Left loons (like Thorpe) not voting for it because its tokenism and anyone Right of Labor not voting for it because it’s too powerful.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 5:40 pm

This should be the Yes theme song.

More realistic.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 5:40 pm

Bern, what do you reckon they’d get for the building now? The floors are absolutely massive, but that means it’s not conducive to a post COVID world. I reckon they’d be lucky to fetch 9 hundi.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 4, 2023 5:45 pm

Not sure JC.
In past cycles commercial property has bottomed out at around 60% of replacement value regardless of lease profile.
But the property in San Fran trading at only 30% of replacement value changed all that.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 4, 2023 5:49 pm

Manhattan being an island is a huge benefit.
I think we’ll see a huge amount of resi conversions in the Sydney CBD.
Recently a chap from Singapore or HK combined 6 lots on Pitt Street with a view to redevelop it into a hotel.

Dot
Dot
September 4, 2023 5:49 pm

I can’t believe people handwave this stuff away.

It is just a lazy 35 trillion USD in accounting adjustments….

Questions are asked if you make $1 of mistake(s) in your IRS or ATO tax return.

https://www.thestreet.com/phildavis/stocks-options/the-pentagon-s-35-trillion-accounting-black-hole

(It is almost 25 years of Australia’s current annual GDP).

A few years ago the Reddit forum “AskHistorians” tried to handwave it away…more or less as: “Don Rumsfield said it was because the old Win 95 machines could not have their Excel files downloaded”.

Who believes this crap!?

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 5:51 pm

Dover! On your recommendation the Beloved and I had malted milkshakes there from the Shake Shack! And I gazed with wonder at the Flatiron, a building I studied decades before at school.

New York is a fascinating conglomeration of tribes. The Vast Metropolis, like London.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 5:51 pm

dover0beach
Sep 4, 2023 5:46 PM

The area around Madison Square Park is great. Would live around there in a heart beat.

Yeah, it’s really beautiful around there. It wasn’t in great demand in the 90s, but it really picked up. I had a pal who lived in the Flatiron.

There’s a great food store now called Eately (get it?) on 5th, and just diagonally across the street. We do food shopping there.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 4, 2023 5:52 pm

The area around Madison Square Park is great. Would live around there in a heart beat.

Almost.
Chelsea, Greenwich Village are close & there’s where you want to be.

JC
JC
September 4, 2023 5:53 pm

feelthebern
Sep 4, 2023 5:45 PM

Not sure JC.
In past cycles commercial property has bottomed out at around 60% of replacement value regardless of lease profile.
But the property in San Fran trading at only 30% of replacement value changed all that.

Jeez yeah, I saw that. It was a real eye opener.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 4, 2023 5:54 pm

Why would you build when you can buy something ready made at 60% of replacement value.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 5:56 pm

I wouldn’t want to live there though. My taste runs more to lush green fields and the Sea.

Tomorrow the Beloved is taking me to our favourite seaside café for a glimpse of the ocean…and if I can manage it, a shoreline walk. I can hear the roar of the surf from home, time to see it.

Indolent
Indolent
September 4, 2023 5:56 pm
JC
JC
September 4, 2023 5:58 pm

feelthebern
Sep 4, 2023 5:54 PM

Why would you build when you can buy something ready made at 60% of replacement value.

Modern commercial buildings – especially these days- have an expiry day. The 2% or 2.5% depreciation p.a. is real enough I think. For stuff built in the past 30 years, I reckon useful life is about 50 years tops.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 4, 2023 6:02 pm

One thing I don’t get in a lot of new Sydney buildings is the huge voids they put in the lobby.
I get it, you want to have a nice entrance but why have an 8 story void in the lobby?

Indolent
Indolent
September 4, 2023 6:06 pm

This is what the UK police are spending their time on.

Women investigated for HATE CRIME after taking a picture of a sticker?! | Headliners

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 4, 2023 6:11 pm

Gez they’re called Tek guns. For Tek screws. Make sure it doesn’t happen again. We have standards. Well they’re not very high coz I’m allowed here.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 4, 2023 6:19 pm

feelthebern

Sep 4, 2023 9:20 AM

No need for breakfast.
If you must, must sure it’s meat & eggs & avocado.
I felt sluggish after my fancy pants granola.

Speaking of fancy pants, I left the Rising Sun hotel bookings to Mrs Panzer, so that budget is blown.
The hotel in Kyoto is 9.6 on the cool-o-meter and it includes breakfast.
It turned up at the appointed time this morning. I answered the knock on the door to be greeted by a Japanese lady who proceeded to unload the contents of a huge trolley onto the table in our room.
Grilled fish, shredded beef, miso soup, rice, a piece of rolled omelette, vegetables, mushrooms, pickles, fruit, tea, coffee.
I manfully worked my way through it (surprisingly very good). The only thing I didn’t eat was namafu (texture didn’t appeal).
Have eaten bugger all for the rest of the day. Fruit and a vanilla cream doughnut from Daimaru. The food hall there is mind boggling.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 4, 2023 6:21 pm

Albo in Parliament today. Daily Telegraph:

The controversial decision to block Qatar Airways adding more flights into Australia has been seized upon by the opposition during a fiery session of question time on Monday.

In questioning from Opposition Leader Peter Dutton, Anthony Albanese was asked to detail discussions he or his office had with Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce or other senior executives, over the Qatar Airways decision.

“Qatar Airways can add more seats into Australia today. Right now. Right now,” the Prime Minister said.

“So (Qatar Airways) are certainly welcome to do so, and they can fly as many flights as they like into Adelaide, into Gold Coast, into Avalon, into Hobart.

“My government supports competition, but global aviation is not a free-for-all.”

Mr Albanese also defended his record when he served as transport minister in the Rudd and Gillard governments to allow Qatar to add further capacity into Australia.

“Qatar – when I was a minister – had their access doubled from seven to 14 flights in February 2009,” Mr Albanese added.

“There’s an aviation green paper process under way to make sure that we get all of the settings right.

“Just as, when I was the minister, I put in place measures of the green paper and white paper which set Australia up with the most competitive aviation market in the world, bar none.”

Mr Albanese denied that he had received any lobbying from Qantas on Qatar Airways’ application.

MatrixTransform
September 4, 2023 6:22 pm

How do you know this and what does it prove?

you could a whois search.

https://www.whois.com/whois/116.90.74.156

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 4, 2023 6:22 pm

Another renewables faceplant, which is starting to rival Snowy 2.0 in painful fiasconess

Marinus Link project labelled ‘absolute rubbish’ after federal government signed new agreement with Tasmania and Victoria (Sky News, 4 Sep)

The Marinus Link, a joint venture between the federal government, Tasmania and Victoria, was a proposed two-way 1500 megawatt undersea interconnector between the Apple Isle and the mainland, which was expected to cost $3.1 to $3.8 billion.

But following years of planning, costs for the project blew to an estimated $6 billion and Tasmania last month urged the federal government to renegotiate the deal.

On Sunday, it was revealed the venture would instead proceed with a single cable only, costing $3.3 billion, and Tasmania’s equity stake in the project would reduce from 33 per cent to 17.7 per cent, lowering the debt the state incurs from the project – with an initial outlay of between $106 to $117 million.

As part of the deal, the federal government’s share will rise to 49 per cent, and Victoria will have a 33.3 per cent stake, with 80 per cent of the project’s funding sourced via a concessional loan from the Commonwealth’s Clean Energy Finance Corporation.

It’s not as if Tassie has that much power available anyway. If they did their dams would be overflowing, and they aren’t. Indeed when Basslink went down they had to bring in a hundred gen sets to keep the lights on in the state.

Maybe someone could propose building another dam in Tassie. It could be called the Gordon Below Franklin.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 4, 2023 6:22 pm

And Marles:

Defence Minister Richard Marles has come under fire over revelations he had racked up a multimillion-dollar bill for taxpayer-funded flights on RAAF planes.

Opening question time on Monday, opposition defence spokesman Andrew Hastie asked Mr Marles “whether or not the minister has taken golf clubs, a putter, a driver etc” on any of his special purpose aircraft flight.

The Defence Minister has spent $3.6m on taxpayer-funded RAAF flights since April last year.

“Let me be very clear – every place I have been, everything I have done, has been in pursuit of my duties as the Deputy Prime Minister and the Minister for Defence on behalf of this country,” Mr Marles said.

“I stand absolutely by every flight I have ever taken on the special-purpose aircraft or, for that matter, any flight that I have taken commercially.

Mr Marles later revealed opposition leader Peter Dutton had lodged a number of requests to use the same RAAF jet which Mr Dutton had criticised him for using.

“As the now-Minister for Defence, my office has logged numerous requests from the Leader of the Opposition about him going on special-purpose aircraft,” Mr Marles said.

“Including in the last six weeks, two times at least in writing, to go to a game of the Matildas.”

Dot
Dot
September 4, 2023 6:23 pm

…and what does it prove?

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 4, 2023 6:24 pm

And Burke:

Workplace Relations Minister Tony Burke also took an opportunity in question time to spruik his Closing Loopholes Bill, which will be introduced to parliament later on Monday.

“This government will introduce legislation designed to close the loopholes that undercut wages and conditions in this country,” Mr Burke said in response to a question from Labor backbencher Cassandra Fernando.

The proposed changes include new regulations to the gig economy, cracking down on labour hire, making it easier for casual workers to convert to permanent roles, and increasing penalties for wage underpayments.

“Those loopholes have been hanging around for years. The step to close them happens immediately after question time today,” Mr Burke added.

Dot
Dot
September 4, 2023 6:26 pm

Suffering a sports ball injury.

Good god man, we were taught a load of shit in high school by boomers.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/is-it-time-to-rethink-rice-for-soft-tissue-injurie

American sports doctor Dr Gabe Mirkin coined the term ‘RICE’ in 1978. However, he backtracked on his initial hypothesis in 2015, writing that ice ‘may delay healing, instead of helping’.

Dr Mirkin this week reiterated these thoughts when speaking to The Age.

‘Cold and ice are safe pain medicines, but they delay healing,’ he said.

Dr Rachael Murray, a researcher at the Queensland University of Technology and immediate past president of the Australasian Wound and Tissue Repair Society, agrees with these concerns.

‘At the moment, there’s no evidence to suggest that RICE – or at least the ice part of it – is better than not icing,’ she told newsGP.

She explains that one of the first things that happens in wound healing is an inflammatory phase, where inflammatory cells recognise damaged extracellular matrix (the part that houses the cells).

‘And when they do that, they then recruit other immune cells in,’ Dr Murray said.

‘So you start off with your neutrophils, then your macrophages a day later. The neutrophils are mainly to clear the wound up, any damage, to do a process called phagocytosis, which is eating all the debris.

‘Then the macrophages come in, and their job is to finish cleaning up and they secrete a whole range of factors.’

The factors macrophages secrete are initially pro-inflammatory, Dr Murray said, but then become anti-inflammatory.

‘Within that, they secrete lots of growth factors and other things that tell the cells within the wound that they should start proliferating, migrating, moving into particular areas, making a new blood supply, that kind of thing,’ she said.

According to Dr Murray, studies have shown this repair mechanism is very common and interfering with this process may worsen outcomes.

‘If you don’t have that initial inflammation, [injuries] don’t heal as well as they could, or as fast,’ she said.

The problem with using ice as a vasoconstrictor is that, while it limits blood supply and therefore reduces swelling, it also limits arrival of immune cells and thus interferes with core parts of healing.

‘If you immediately ran off … and stuck ice on [an injury], you may actually be delaying your healing process slightly,’ Dr Murray said.

Good to know my prior injuries were all mistreated because a boffin who recanted their research told everyone to do X.

calli
calli
September 4, 2023 6:26 pm

Gee Matrix…a quick Google got even me there.

Just who is this debbildebbil Kiwi? And what do they know?

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 4, 2023 6:26 pm

And a brouhaha:

An alleged altercation in the public gallery which saw parliamentary staff subject to verbal abuse by a rogue group of community pharmacists has marked the closure of Question Time.

About 2000 community pharmacists opposed to the government’s 60-day dispensing policy were protesting outside parliament on Monday morning.

Leader of the House, Tony Burke notified the Speaker Milton Dick that an altercation had occurred, and asked him to investigate if a member of parliament had signed them in.

“It has been reported that some of the parliamentary staff have been subjected to verbal abuse by members of the public galleries,” Mr Burke told the chamber.

Mr Dick said he would review the footage and report to the House if any action was required.

In a statement, the Pharmacy Guild stated that they were not involved in the altercation despite its campaign against 60 day dispensing.

“The Pharmacy Guild of Australia is not and has never been involved with the organisation of events in Canberra today,” a Guild spokesman said.

“The Guild remains committed to resolving this matter as soon as possible and encourage the Government to do the same.”

Rather lively sitting day.

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