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Am I lucky this morning?
3 down. Australia will probably lose tomorrow. Despite all the bullshit, I still support Australia.
Well spotted Ceres.
At this moment in time, Jasprit Bumrah is playing his 41st Test and is holding a bowling average of 19.94.…
Given the Discussions today on WTC 7 – Comprehensive Answers
An official website of the United States government – Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation
Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation (09/17/2010, ARCHIVE, incorporated into 9/19/2011 update)
What was WTC 7?
The original World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7) was a 47-story office building located immediately to the north of the main World Trade Center (WTC) complex. Completed in 1987, it was built on top of an existing Con Edison substation and located on land owned by The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.
When did WTC 7 collapse?
On Sept. 11, 2001, WTC 7 endured fires for almost seven hours, from the time of the collapse of the north WTC tower (WTC 1) at 10:28:22 a.m. until 5:20:52 p.m., when WTC 7 collapsed.
What caused the fires in WTC 7?
Debris from the collapse of WTC 1, which was 370 feet to the south, ignited fires on at least 10 floors in the building at its south and west faces. However, only the fires on some of the lower floors-7 through 9 and 11 through 13-burned out of control. These lower-floor fires-which spread and grew because the water supply to the automatic sprinkler system for these floors had failed-were similar to building fires experienced in other tall buildings. The primary and backup water supply to the sprinkler systems for the lower floors relied on the city’s water supply, whose lines were damaged by the collapse of WTC 1 and WTC 2. These uncontrolled lower-floor fires eventually spread to the northeast part of WTC 7, where the building’s collapse began.
How did the fires cause WTC 7 to collapse?
The heat from the uncontrolled fires caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand, leading to a chain of events that caused a key structural column to fail. The failure of this structural column then initiated a fire-induced progressive collapse of the entire building.
According to the report’s probable collapse sequence, heat from the uncontrolled fires caused thermal expansion of the steel beams on the lower floors of the east side of WTC 7, damaging the floor framing on multiple floors.
Eventually, a girder on Floor 13 lost its connection to a critical column, Column 79, that provided support for the long floor spans on the east side of the building (see Diagram 1). The displaced girder and other local fire-induced damage caused Floor 13 to collapse, beginning a cascade of floor failures down to the 5th floor. Many of these floors had already been at least partially weakened by the fires in the vicinity of Column 79. This collapse of floors left Column 79 insufficiently supported in the east-west direction over nine stories.
The unsupported Column 79 then buckled and triggered an upward progression of floor system failures that reached the building’s east penthouse. What followed in rapid succession was a series of structural failures. Failure first occurred all the way to the roof line-involving all three interior columns on the easternmost side of the building (79, 80, 81). Then, progressing from east to west across WTC 7, all of the columns failed in the core of the building (58 through 78). Finally, the entire façade collapsed.
Typical WTC 7 floor showing locations of columns (numbered).
The buckling of Column 79 was the initiating event that led to the collapse of WTC 7. The buckling resulted from fire-induced damage to floors around column 79, failure of the girder between Columns 79 and 44, and cascading floor failures.
What is progressive collapse?
Progressive collapse is defined as the spread of local damage from a single initiating event, from structural element to element, eventually resulting in the collapse of an entire structure or a disproportionately large part of it. The failure of WTC 7 was an example of a fire-induced progressive collapse.
Progressive collapse did NOT occur in the WTC towers, for two reasons. First, the collapse of each tower was not triggered by a local damage or a single initiating event. Second, the structures were able to redistribute loads from the impact and fire-damaged structural components and subsystems to undamaged components and to keep the building standing until a sudden, global collapse occurred. Had a hat truss that connected the core columns to the exterior frame not been installed to support a TV antenna atop each WTC tower after the structure had been fully designed, it is likely that the core of the WTC towers would have collapsed sooner, triggering a global collapse. Such a collapse would have some features similar to that of a progressive collapse.
How did the collapse of WTC 7 differ from the collapses of WTC 1 and WTC 2?
WTC 7 was unlike the WTC towers in many respects. WTC 7 was a more typical tall building in the design of its structural system.
It was not struck by an aircraft.
The collapse of WTC 7 was caused by a single initiating event-the failure of a northeast building column brought on by fire-induced damage to the adjacent flooring system and connections-which stands in contrast to the WTC 1 and WTC 2 failures, which were brought on by multiple factors, including structural damage caused by the aircraft impact, extensive dislodgement of the sprayed fire-resistive materials or fireproofing in the impacted region, and a weakening of the steel structures created by the fires.
The fires in WTC 7 were quite different from the fires in the WTC towers. Since WTC 7 was not doused with thousands of gallons of jet fuel, large areas of any floor were not ignited simultaneously as they were in the WTC towers. Instead, separate fires in WTC 7 broke out on different floors, most notably on Floors 7 to 9 and 11 to 13. The WTC 7 fires were similar to building contents fires that have occurred in several tall buildings where the automatic sprinklers did not function or were not present.
Why did WTC 7 collapse, while no other known building in history has collapsed due to fires alone?
The collapse of WTC 7 is the first known instance of a tall building brought down primarily by uncontrolled fires. The fires in WTC 7 were similar to those that have occurred in several tall buildings where the automatic sprinklers did not function or were not present. These other buildings, including Philadelphia’s One Meridian Plaza, a 38-story skyscraper that burned for 18 hours in 1991, did not collapse due to differences in the design of the structural system.
Factors contributing to WTC 7’s collapse included: the thermal expansion of building elements such as floor beams and girders, which occurred at temperatures hundreds of degrees below those typically considered in current practice for fire-resistance ratings; significant magnification of thermal expansion effects due to the long-span floors in the building; connections between structural elements that were designed to resist the vertical forces of gravity, not the thermally induced horizontal or lateral loads; and an overall structural system not designed to prevent fire-induced progressive collapse.
– What are the major differences between “typical” major high rise building fires that have occurred in the United States and the fire in the WTC 7 building on September 11, 2001?
– Some people have said that a failure at one column should not have produced a symmetrical fall like this one. What’s your answer to those assertions?
– In a video, it appears that WTC 7 is descending in free fall, something that would not occur in the structural collapse that you describe. How can you ignore basic laws of physics?
– Does this mean there are hundreds or thousands of unsafe tall buildings with long span supports that must be retrofitted in some way? How would you retrofit a building to prevent this problem?
– Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?
– Is it possible that thermite or thermate contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?
– An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn’t that evidence that there was an explosion?
– n June 2009, NIST began releasing documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request from the International Center for 9/11 Studies for “all of the photographs and videos collected, reviewed, cited or in any other way used by NIST during its investigation of the World Trade Center building collapses.” One of the items released, a video obtained from NBC News , shows World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7) in the moments before it collapsed, then cuts to the collapse already in progress, with the building’s east penthouse “disappearing” from the scene (as it had already fallen in the intervening time). Other videos of the WTC 7 collapse show the penthouse falling first, followed by the rest of the building. Did NIST edit the NBC News video to remove the collapse of the penthouse?
– Did fuel oil systems in WTC 7 contribute to its collapse?
– Why did NIST model the sprayed fire resistive material (SFRM, also referred to as fireproofing) on the WTC 7 beams and columns as a “perfect” installation (i.e., without any gaps or damage in the SFRM coating), when realistically most buildings have some gaps or damage in the SFRM coating, either due to improper installation or deterioration over time?
– Why did the investigation take so long to complete?
– Did debris from the collapse of WTC 1 cause damage to WTC 7’s structure in a way that contributed to the building’s collapse?
– Would WTC 7 have collapsed even if there had been no structural damage induced by the collapse of the WTC towers?
– Why did WTC 7’s sprinkler systems fail during the fires?
– How hot did WTC 7’s steel columns and floor beams get?
– Did the electrical substation next to WTC 7 play a role in the fires or collapse?
– Why were there no fatalities from the collapse of WTC 7?
– Why didn’t the investigators look at actual steel samples from WTC 7?
– Your entire investigation included no physical evidence. How can you be so sure you know what happened?
– Did WTC 7 conform to building and fire codes?
– What improvements to building safety have been recommended as a result of the WTC 7 investigation?
– What are some of the firsts in this investigation?
– Why did NIST study the collapse of WTC 7?
– How does the final report on WTC 7 issued on Nov. 23, 2008, differ from the draft report that was released for public comment on Aug. 21, 2008?
– Have the recommendations from NIST’s investigation of the WTC towers led to any changes in building codes, standards, and practices?
– What specific code changes based on recommendations from NIST’s investigation of the WTC towers have been approved for inclusion in the International Building Code?
I have been absent from Catalaxy for a week or two, very happy to see the return of upticks and the addition of downticks. bet that monty has the record for downticks if he is still shitting on this blog.
What a great job the ABC does, warning us a hundred times so far today about a scrub fire near Tennant Creek.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-13/fitzroy-river-bridge-crossing-two-lane-closure/102846386
https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/f5156e85172e0a9aa0d21ea64e3d979e?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&cropH=1365&cropW=2048&xPos=0&yPos=0&width=862&height=575
Please excuse the formatting but check out the picture of the crossing. It’s not going to last the first bit of rain, FFS!
I note those remaining steel columns just turning into dust and the cars in the parking lot being fried is not being addressed by anybody yet.
Dot?
Another day, another attempt by a select group of numpties to prove their intellectual superiority via special but not unique insights into world events.
Go back as far as you want, it’s the vampirical, reptilian, cabal, every single time.
*dust*
Retribution will be limp wristed, no more invites onto the ABC as venerated elder statesman and expert. The unpersoning of the luvvies is brutal to behold.
I reckon the steel was vaporized to be more accurate. The concrete was dust.
Trickler> Russells Teapot is currently orbiting between the Moon and Mars, but its far too small to be observed by telescope.
Can anyone prove it doesn’t exist and, more important, does anyone care?
Alamak!
I note those remaining steel columns just turning into dust ( vaporized ) and the cars in the parking lot being fried is not being addressed by anybody yet.
What are your thoughts?
Sancho as I understand it the steel did not need to melt nor to be overly weakened, it simply had to expand with the heat.
The steel in the Tower design formed an exoskeleton. All internal and floor structures were supported by the external shell of vertical girders rigidified obviously by horizontal and oblique lattice.
Not unreasonably I guess, the architecs did not seriously study the impact of furnace level temperatures on the exoskeleton. In simple terms, the exoskeleton expanded thus severing all of the support for the internal structures which then literally ‘fell through the floor’.
The analyses I have read address this:
1) Most if the jetfuel was aerosolised instantly at impact and burned in the initial fireball – little if any would have remained an hour or more later, and none contributed to the Building 7 fire.
2) Even if it had soaked building 7, we know the maximum temp produced by a jetfuel fire and it was *never* hot enough to soften the steel, regardless of the fires duration – its a bit like heating an icesheet from -15c to -10, its still not hot enough to melt the ice.
3) Precisely zero steel framed buildings comparable to 7 have collapsed in fires apart from on 911 (when 3 did) – this is no accident- these structures are designed to survive this.Bld 7 in particular was just an ordinary ‘office fire’ – if that was enough to bring it down, there would have been multiple other examples.
Dont get distracted by WTC 1&2 here, something about #7 doesnt add up.
French fried brains.
France orders Apple iPhone 12 sales halted over radiation (via Phys.org, 12 Sep)
Good luck with that silly French bureaucratic peoples. I’m sure all your government types will just love handing in their cherished iPhones.
Because it’s a nothing burger you dolt.
My thoughts are listed above and Bons explanation works for me.
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 12:27 PM
Address the remaining steel columns being vaporized on camera and the cars being fried, smart arse.
Will your USB-C cable work with the new iPhone?
John Davidson
Columnist
USB-C has been around since 2014, and it was widely adopted by all the world’s phone manufacturers (except Apple) starting mid-2015.
The term, which stands for “Universal Serial Bus Type C”, refers to the physical connector that plugs into Android phones, laptops, Macs, PCs, iPads and, soon, iPhones.
If you have a USB-C certified cable from any of those devices, you can be sure it will plug into any other of those devices, including the iPhone 15.
What you can’t be sure of, though, is whether it will work as you hoped. Like most technology standards, the devil is in the detail.
There are half a dozen different USB specifications, as well as a couple of Thunderbolt standards, that all use the same USB-C connector, you see.
Some of them, such as the “USB 2” specification Apple used for the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus, offer data transfer speed of 480 megabits-per-second, the same as the micro-USB (or, in Apple’s case, Lightning) cables they replaced.
Some of them, such as the “USB 3” specification Apple used for its fancier iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone Pro Max phones, offer transfer speeds of 10 gigabits-per-second, 20-times faster.
Thunderbolt USB-C cables (which usually have a lightning logo on them, but otherwise look identical) go as fast as 40 gigabits per second. Newer USB-C cables that support the “USB 4” spec can go as fast as 80 gigabits per second.
But speed is just the beginning of how USB-C cables can differ from each other.
‘Alternate Mode’
Some are wired differently, to allow what’s known as “Alternate Mode”, which allows them to carry video signals as well as regular USB data and power. If you’ve ever plugged a monitor into a laptop using a USB-C connector at both ends, and the monitor refused to turn on, the cable probably lacked Alternate Mode wiring.
Others are wired to allow Thunderbolt connections, which are a superset of USB-C, but operate at higher (or lower) speeds, can be daisy-chained, and in the case of the newer Thunderbolt 4 standard, can support two 4K monitors over a single connection.
Also, there’s the question of how much power the cable can handle. Some can deliver 100 watts of power, to charge a laptop. Others can only handle 15 watts, and are good only for charging phones.
bum a charge off anyone.
It’s confusing, to be sure, but you’re still going to be better off with USB-C than you were with the Lightning cables they’re replacing. Windows PCs, Macs, iPads, Android tablets, all sorts of devices use USB-C for charging and connectivity, and all of them should work to charge your new iPhone 15, at the very least, meaning you can now bum a charge off anyone.
And, for most iPhone users, that’s all you need the cable for, anyway. Unless you’re shooting huge video files, most data gets transferred to and from your phone wirelessly.
And, increasingly, so does electrical power. Apple’s new-ish MagSafe system for charging iPhones is much more convenient and interesting than a Lightning or USB-C cable, and it means you might never once need any sort of cable for your phone, other than the one that plugs your MagSafe wireless charging point to your power supply in the wall socket.
How does watching the top 10% of the building in vid toppling over/ imploding offer any insight into what happened structurally to make you go “ummmm”?
” He [Trump] is the only candidate at present who could do it [gut the deep state].”
Agreed – Vivek, who seems to me to be the only other candidate with the cajones to do it, would likely fall into the same trap that Trump did in his first term, viz: thinking he’ll get support from the establishment for policy he campaigned on.
That said, a lot will depend on the R primaries – not just for Prez, but for house and senate too. If the RINO’s all (or largely) get “primaried” out for MAGA supporters, then whichever R presidential candidate it is (if they win) would have a much easier time getting this stuff done. Always assuming that the house and senate have R majorities as well, and how big those majorities are.
Watching US politics from afar is very much like watching a train wreck, or a nuclear explosion – hideous, fascinating and dangerous, all at the same time. In some ways, your glad you’re not directly involved, yet worried about the consequences if they “get it wrong” and kind of wishing you did have some control over it despite the risks. And once you start watching, it’s almost impossible to look away.
Alamak!
Sep 13, 2023 12:33 PM
The collapse has occurred, yet a steel support column remains captured on camera that then vaporizes very quickly after standing on it’s own for short while.
No one has addressed that or the cars.
Allen produces a new movie every 18 months or so, amazingly productive. There are some gems in there, but most are dross. Really impressed with “Crimes and Misdemeanours”, and the theme was copied in “Arbitrage”. He also miscasts himself in his movies, like in “Manhattan”.
Have you ever actually seen this or are you repeating stuff you have read on the internet?
If that’s the case, why WOULDN’T it happen?
Here’s your problem. You assume X. If someone else doesn’t debunk X for your satisfaction, you assume they’re wrong. You also assume X can’t be disproven.
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 12:48 PM
Address the footage captured. You are not doing so. Explain the very tall column being vaporized and the cooked cars.
You can’t can you?
Interesting.
I agree.
He’s not wrong.
Link please to this footage, or a timestamp in a longer video.
Still on steel beams, eh?
Riveting.
Trickler
Not only are you incredibly dumb, but you’re also incredibly arrogant.
You haven’t proven a single one of your assertions and yet DEMAND evidence of any rejection of the stupid ideas you profess.
Bam. Dot nails it.
Dot.
Have you ever actually seen this or are you repeating stuff you have read on the internet?
Faarking funny. It’s captured on camera in the clip posted … you haven’t watched it have you?
Gee whiz.
Will— Harrelson not Allen.
Many LOLs
Chris
Sep 13, 2023 12:57 PM
Do you have an explanation? I bet you don’t.
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 12:54 PM
You are avoiding the question on the steel column and cars.
Why?
Trickler – seems like you didn’t read about or understand the concept of Russells Teapot. Please do us the courtesy of following your own advice on reading before commenting.
Yes, I have an explanation.
It is that your premises are wrong.
Post a link and if it is in a larger video, please post a timestamp as well.
Video emerges of Marcia Langton saying ‘hard No voters spewing racism’ after she defended herself over controversial remarks
Prominent Yes campaigner Marcia Langton has been filmed calling some No voters racist, after she had defended herself when footage emerged of her from the weekend branding those against the Voice to Parliament “stupid”.
Professor Marcia Langton has been filmed saying “hard No voters” of the Voice to Parliament are “spewing racism”, after earlier defending her remarks at a more recent forum in Western Australia on the weekend.
Sky News Australia Political Editor Andrew Clennell revealed on Wednesday morning more footage had surfaced of the professor labelling those, she defined as “hard no” voters, as “racist”.
The clips shows the prominent Yes campaigner at a University of Queensland event just a few months ago in July making the remarks.
In one speech seen by Sky News Australia, Ms Langton describes all “hard no” voters as racist, saying they “are the ones spewing racism”.
“The surge of racist nonsense is confined to a minority of Australians,” she said.
“Ordinary Australians are thinking Yes. Of course I am voting for the Voice and that would be 48-49 per cent.
“Then there is hard No voters and I am hoping they are about 20 per cent and they are the ones spewing racism.”
Ms Langton also linked the “hard No” vote to Opposition Leader Peter Dutton.
“Both conservative leaders the Liberal Party Opposition leader Peter Dutton and the National Party leader David Littleproud have committed their parties to advocating a hard no case for the question,” she said in the video.
“Moreover their arguments are speciesist.
“Appealing to their racist base with claims that the proposal will racially divide the nation.”
In another instance Ms Langton took aim at “racist” social workers and police officers.
“Families have been broken apart by social workers who are, by and large, white and racist,” she said.
“We need a radical culture change to stop the the police from criminalising more and more people.
“Simply because the police are racist, because they get brownie points to rounding people up.”
It comes after Ms Langton defended herself in comments to Nine Newspapers following her remarks at a Western Australia forum.
Video of the event was first reported by local newspaper Bunbury Herald, with Sky News Australia host Sharri Markson obtaining the video.
The prominent Yes campaigner, and key Voice architect, sought to link the arguments outlined by the No side to “base racism”, while speaking in Bunbury.
“Every time the No cases raise their arguments, if you start pulling it apart you get down to base racism,” she told a forum on Sunday.
“I’m sorry to say that’s where it lands, or sheer stupidity.
“If you look at any reputable fact-checker, every one of them says the No case is substantially false. They are lying to you.”
AUSTRAC releases new guidance on debanking.
Nothing about individuals, and nothing holding banks to the fire for Fage-like abuse of market power.
NATO – North Atlantic Terrorist Organization
“Nothing but lies puts the entire world at risk of war, which is their only purpose. If there were no enemy, there would be no purpose for NATO. Creating World War III has been their design from the beginning. Former Chancellor Merkel admitted that the Minsk Agreement was to allow the Russians in the Donbas to have a democratic process to vote on separating from Kyiv, which was the way to peace. Ukraine built the largest army in Europe and now 500,000+ Ukrainians are dead. All of this is because NATO has always wanted to invade Russia, and they are praying every day for war. It’s like buying a new car but you just look at it and never drive it. They have all their theories and weapons. They want to use them.”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/nato-north-atlantic-terrorist-organization/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
So much bullshit on this blog. Disgusting.
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 1:04 PM
Post a link and if it is in a larger video, please post a timestamp as well.
Oh FFS! I already have. ( :
For anyone just coming onboard, just watch the opening. The free standing steel column. Watch what happens to it. Magic?
Watch. Dot can eff off.
Link
Chris
Sep 13, 2023 1:04 PM
Have a gander before shooting your mouth off.
Are there videos of WTC7 from other perspectives. Trying to visualise what happened from one distant video is near impossible. Anything built on reclaimed land is prone to difficulties without being the size of skyscrapers. Having two building’s collapse nearby is bound to have caused rippling enough to shear the bolts. It appeared the building started to collapse on the far left side. Once you start on conspiracy theory in engineering there is too much to go wrong to be successful, people not so much, so many loonies around. Especially on blogs.
Assuming that the steel did either “atomize” or create small chunck, my educated guess is that:
A: The dust observed was a combination of the facade and coverings including tens of thousands of Mt of glass/concrete/agregate/fire retardent/ceramic material.
B: If the steel did in fact disintegrate as mention, the steel used in towers 1&2 was martinistic, which offers supperior compressive strenght to austenitic steel, but is significatnly harder and more brittle and crystaline in nature. The sheer and massive change in dynamic load due to the collapsing tower above, put so much stress on the steel at it’s base, it then likely failed along the crystiline structure creating a lot of relatively small chunks.
I don’t for one second believe the conspiracy theories that it was a controlled demolition. It was an extraordianry event where a roughly fully laden 90 Mt plane traveling at 300+ knots hit the side of each tower roughly a thrid from the top. This kind of event was and still is well outside the design perview of worst case scenario safety margins.
Not in the least distracted by WTC1 & 2..
1) Nobody has suggested that jet fuel contributed to the fire in WTC7;
2) Nobody has suggested that the fires in WTC7 were hot enough to soften the structural steel;
3) The entire sprinkler system in WTC7 was disabled by the collapse of WTC1 breaking the water supply main. The fires (paper, computers, carpet) burned uncontrolled for 7 hours – enough to raise the temperature of the structural steel sufficiently to cause thermal expansion of the unusually long horizontal members to the extent that the vertical supports were disturbed and the whole structure failed.
There are in fact examples of serious structural damage and partial collapse in steel framed buildings in similar fire circumstances – none of those, however had the added load of having large parts of a 90-floor neighboring tower come through the front of the building.
That’s the simple explanation, which adds up reasonably from an engineering and material science perspective.
Much more complicated explanations that don’t involve these processes but do involve secret controlled demolition are a lot harder to add up without demanding suspension of disbelief. (Explanations involving death rays don’t add up at all but do invite medical attention.)
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/09/classic-leak.html
Enjoy those Chairman’s Lounge cards while you’ve still got ’em High Court Judges
Wednesday, 13 September 2023
I’m amazed the High Court Judges didn’t recuse themselves over their apprehended conflict of interest as recipients of Qantas’s costly largesse.
Yuugely yuge entertainment catching up this morning’s work on this august journal of record.
‘Towers turned to dust’, when quickly rebutted with every single demolition of anything over two storeys also covering everything around it with dust, quickly morphed into ‘yeah but the towers vaporised’ when very, very clearly, they did not.
It’s someone who really, really wants to believe that the Stonecutters are using sharks with frickin’ laser beams* against Teh PeoPle.
*Direct Energy Weapons. Everyone knows that 9/11 was a practice run for DEWs to be used against Canadian trees, to create rain when fired from BOM stations right here in Australia and to burn out the po’ people in Hawaii so Oprah could take their land.
And build tunnels under it. To enslave the children, you see.
Come on guys! Death rays are much more fun. Cut it out with the materials sciencey stuff please.
In other news, it appears my fan club has finally rolled out of bed. Shame, you slacker!
Here’s one I prepared earlier. Enjoy.
So disappointing. There’s no point in ringing the bell if they don’t immediately salivate.
Your premises, they continue wrong.
(Ex) Lt Col Bearden is the Maria Zeeee of secret military weapons.
Next up on Stew Peters:
Lt Col Bearden discusses the Government’s secret underground facility where ZOMBIES have been CLONED by SCIENTISTS – is there really a plan for zombie armies to do the bidding of the elites?
Here’s my alternate explanation why that building went down, with people still pondering the cause. From recollection, the shithole was built in 60s or 70s. We had clients in there and used to visit occasionally. People used to complain the heating and a/c were terrible- not that it mattered to the structure.
The mafia were heavily into construction in the 60s and 70s and brown paper envelopes going to city ordinance can’t be discounted. Perhaps cutting corners was the cause of potential structural weakness. We’ll never know though.
You get bet you arse the same tech was used in Maui with those fires. It will be used again and again and again.
Those behind it are counting on the ignorance of the masses to just write it off as conspiracy.
Astonishing times.
All these videos of J.Biden mumbling, stumbling, getting lost, and falling over… it’s all just a manifestation of “Ow my balls” isn’t it?
Because Idiocracy has come true.
Open season on the Mangy Roo. Everyone gets a kick. Is Piggy Howe’s (one time Prime Ministerial aspirant) squeeze the chief flak catcher?
Tony Soprano admitted to poor construction methods involving city-level corruption on his death bed. I’m trusting what he says about WTC7 because even Alien Reptiles operating out of Pizza chains do not have unlimited energy to vaporise all of Manhattan in one day.
It’s a simple theory but I stand by it 100%.
Knuckle dragger hasn’t addressed the issue either.
Lt Col Bearden discusses the Government’s secret underground facility where ZOMBIES have been CLONED by SCIENTISTS – is there really a plan for zombie armies to do the bidding of the elites?
That is spam.
Again Detailed Answers to Questions raised = Given the Discussions today on WTC 7 – Comprehensive Answers
An official website of the United States government – Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation
Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation (09/17/2010, ARCHIVE, incorporated into 9/19/2011 update)
I’ve been obliged to try out the awesome power of down ticking;
Somehow, I now feel unclean…
Luxury cruise ship with mostly Australians on board stuck in mud in Greenland Arctic
A luxury cruise ship carrying 206 passengers, mostly Australians, has run aground in remote north-eastern Greenland, and the closest vessel that can help with the rescue is not expected to arrive until Friday.
The Ocean Explorer became stuck at about noon on Monday, Greenland time, in the Alpefjord, roughly 1400 kilometres north-east of Greenland’s capital, Nuuk, according to Brian Jensen of the Danish military’s Joint Arctic Command in Nuuk.
Chris
Sep 13, 2023 1:36 PM
Let’s ask the obvious question.
Do you believe such tech exists? A yes or no answer will suffice.
Faustus! I’m truly shocked! My theories have all flown out the window. 😀
Confession: I do enjoy making the memes. They just seem so apt in this stupid, stupid world.
Prof Langton seems to have found reverse on the Landcruiser. It can be a bit tricky sometimes if they’ve had a hard life.
Just the once, at 1:35.
Your theories still stand.
The cruiser or the Professor?
And that’s Prof. Les Langton on account of her intonation patterns.
Paging Joe Vialls to reception!
Joe Vialls, please
Bit late, Sancho, he was taken out in 2005 with a DEW used by an assassin who time travelled back from 2024 to do the deed. Get with the program sheeple person.
Glad you got the reference, Faustus. It’s a fairly standard one, but astonishingly accurate.
To apply the scientific method with integrity requires a suspension of disbelief in the hypothesis being tested. Obviously. Because if you already disbelieved the hypothesis there would be no logical justification for the test effort to tell you what you already believe.
Faustus opined:
Sure, but that’s just science, that particular mental flexibility is not the problem with the hypothesis.
Don’t mess with Bubbles!
Bully Gets A Headbutt From Hell
Voice ‘yes’ campaign leader Marcia Langton wants the federal opposition leader to remove an image from one of his social media accounts that claimed she branded ‘no’ voters racist and stupid.
Absolutely not true?
That’s a relief. I’d hate to imagine Marcia being upset with concerns about the divisive effects of inserting racial preference into the Constitution.
I’m not watching a 41:19 minute video with Jesse Ventura rambling on.
Give me time stamps.
Those rugby league type apologies don’t really work unless they come from an actual rugby league player.
Soft.
Sure, sure.
You’re calling everyone who agrees with him dumb now, which you assert is not true…
Next up on the Stew Peters show:
Dr. Cash 2.0 joins Maria Zeeee and Associate Accountant Dutchsinse to discuss Krakatoa – was it really the test run for Direct Energy Weapons, and what role was played by the Knights Templar?
I can see where you are coming from in context, but whether or not you believe a hypothesis is immaterial if you do have scientific integrity.
You might test a hypothesis you believe in to see if it survives the test and supports your belief. In fact you should do this.
You might also test a hypothesis you disbelieve to see if your disbelief was wrongly placed. You should be prepared to do this too, particularly if you are a Critical Rationalist and don’t see a world full of alternative facts.
Not so fast. Let’s see what Mr Vitrioli has to say about this first.
Another thing about the space lasers.
Forgetting their firing position, how many “shots” were made at what energy level and for how long did this go on for?
A chronology of energy pulses with their respective MJ of energy would be handy.
As well as some reconciliation of estimates of energy required to do the job itself.
Trickler making dot watch that video.
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 2:11 PM
I’m not watching a 41:19 minute video with Jesse Ventura rambling on.
Who says it’s 41:19 video of JV rambling on? You and only you. FMD. Again, you shoot your mouth off.
You are using JV as an excuse to not watch in order to discredit the information. Piss weak.
0:00 onwards.
As has been said, Marcia is the best advertisement for the NO campaign. Long may she embrace the words “racist” and “stupid”.
“Go watch a 41.19-minute-long video”
The footage does not exist.
You made it up. There is no “steel turning into dust”. Cars were not fried with space lasers.
Knuckle Dragger
Sep 13, 2023 2:17 PM
Next up on the Stew Peters show:
Dr. Cash 2.0 joins Maria Zeeee and Associate Accountant Dutchsinse to discuss Krakatoa – was it really the test run for Direct Energy Weapons, and what role was played by the Knights Templar?
Spam.
This place has got too loopy for me.I will leave it for a week or two and see if it settles down.
Perhaps someone should demonstrate an ounce of humility after faceplanting that the ACCC has a shred of credibility in our “liberal democracy”.
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 2:27 PM
“Go watch a 41.19-minute-long video”
The footage does not exist.
You made it up. There is no “steel turning into dust”. Cars were not fried with space lasers.
Vaporized is more accurate. Who mentioned space lasers? …. ONLY you.
You are useless.
So you think Judy Wood is wrong?!
With all the discussions about WTC Tower 7 you have missed a highly relevant point.
Nanowrigglers…………………….It was a test run for the Nanowrigglers.
You know it makes sense.
To add.
The footage does not exist.
You are trolling. Cool.
Today’s rabbit burrow expedition has been brought to you by Feelthebern Inc.
It does not exist.
I am not trolling.
The footage you are thinking about is in your imagination. This is because you are an emotive thinker and are easily swayed by melodramatic appeal, as opposed to any actual evidence.
You are an emotive thinker. All of your stupid claims have been annihilated and you haven’t proven a thing. You still demand proof from others without providing a shred of evidence yourself.
Albo won’t have to look far to share the blame. As they say failure is an orphan …
Steve trickler
Sep 13, 2023 1:20 PM
A very interesting Link.
So you think Judy Wood is wrong?!
It’s just a term she used at the time to explain the tech bringing down the joint down. Steel was vaporized and the concrete was reduced to instant dust.
It doesn’t detract from the fact of DEW’s being used. I’m still laughing when you said, the footage doesn’t exist.
Trolling.
Interesting World if your Russian is any Good – Barbie (film, 2023)
https://rutube.ru/video/529b93e0a8a7e58dbf0d53659c083aca/
Russians enjoy ‘free’ Barbie
The fully dubbed film was uploaded to the Russian video hosting site one day before its official worldwide digital release
One of this summer’s biggest Hollywood blockbusters, ‘Barbie’, has been leaked in full to the Russian YouTube alternative called RuTube. The film was not officially released in Russia, as Western movie studios left the country due to the conflict in Ukraine.
The full 1 hour, 54-minute movie was uploaded to the video hosting site in 1080p quality and featuring a full Russian dub. The leak came a day before the film’s planned international digital release.
Last week, several movie theaters across Russia also started showing pirated copies of the film with tickets as low as 280 rubles (around $3). Some cinemas, according to Telegram channel Baza, also showed ‘Barbie’ as well as Christopher Nolan’s ‘Oppenheimer’ under code names such as ‘Quick Dates’ and ‘Dubak’ (extreme cold), respectively.
Late last month, Russia’s Culture Ministry stated that it would not order the licensing of ‘Barbie’ and ‘Oppenheimer’, explaining that neither of the films meets the “goals and objectives set by the head of state to preserve and strengthen traditional Russian spiritual and moral values.”
The ministry noted that there are plenty of high-quality domestic films, such as the family comedy ‘Cheburashka’ – a Soviet-era cartoon character with big ears – available in Russia.
So the coherent opinion now is… what?
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 2:38 PM
The footage does not exist.
It was posted above.
Trolling.
Tone deaf.
They are still promoting all sorts of branded associate products on the soshuls – insurances, etc.
The vitriol in the comments is epic, with each post copping hundreds of comments along the lines of “why don’t you just try running the fckng airline properly, you greedy cnts”.
Some even get a little abusive.
A smart marketing pony-tail would park those campaigns for a bit.
A montage of 9/11 scenes is not footage of a space laser vapourising steel and turning concrete into dust.
It may take years, but we can coach you up to an adult IQ level and autism can be functionally ameliorated.
Morsie, where’s the fun in that? You are watching Blair’s Law in action.
Highly instructive and entertaining.
DoverBeach:
This may be an odd question, but what happens if despite the Trump popularity, the Republicans refuse to have him as the nominee, and go for someone else?
Told youse.
Some people just want to believe. Mostly because interacting with normal people is beyond them.
Brand management does appear to be suffering.
A few questions for the members of Club Vialls re WTC7.
1. Assuming 9/11 was some vast conspiracy, who ordered it, who planned it and who executed it?
2. Why? What was their objective, and did they achieve it?
3. Specifically related to WTC7, what was the objective there? Having dropped the twin towers and killed 3,000 people, what additional impact was achieved by imploding an evacuated building?
Enough of the cool, crisp rationalism. Please stop making sense.
I also think the swirling p*ss taking is a normal reaction to the unthinkable. We’ve all processed what happened in one way or another, but nothing can account for the horror that visited us from the other side of the world straight into our living rooms early morning on the 12th.
Only the extremely callous can be detached, even 22 years later. So we muck around with our theories, not to diminish those who perished but because we can’t forget them.
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 2:45 PM
A montage of 9/11 scenes is not footage of a space laser vapourising steel and turning concrete into dust.
Again, the only one mentioning a space laser is you. Why is that?
Didn’t realise the Cat harboured a bunch of “truthers….”
Next you’ll be telling me Barry Soetoro was POTUS, born overseas, enjoyed crack and g@y sex…
😛
Because you refuse to say where it was fired from, what the beam was rated at in wavelength or MJ/GeV, who fired it, why, under whose command or design, how it was powered and how they had the technology to modulate the beam to symmetrically demolish a geometrically shaped object.
That’s why, you friggin’ turkey.
OK – I’m going give Perfesser Plankton the benefit of the doubt and assume the howler above is the work of the meeja service reporting her remarks. Or does she really think that the arguments of no voters (or those orrible stupid racist no campaign people) marginalise particular species?
As for WTC 7, I wasn’t going to weigh in on that, but the funniest conspiracy hypothesis I ever read about its mysterious collapse involved the work of an FBI (or was it the CIA?) super secret agent squirrel team program being run out of that building. Haven’t been able to find it since – accessed the link at the time via Blair’s blog, which I started reading shortly after 9/11.
Like alot of people, I watched all the networks in Australia broadcasting the horror of the attacks until about 2.30am the next morning on the east coast of NSW. For years afterwards I had lots of bad dreams and nightmares about that day, especially the destruction of the Twin Towers.
They continued on and off for years and only stopped when I visited the memorial at ground zero in 2015. I’ve never had another dream about it again. Very moving place, but I couldn’t appreciate the young people standing in front of the two pools at the site having smiling selfies taken. A place of quiet reflection for me and most folks.
The Hun:
Fair enough too by the AFL.
It was very clear, from watching a montage of footage from that incident that Brayshaw was felled by a Direct Energy Weapon fired from the BOM observation post at the CBD GPO. A bank shot off Light Tower No.3.
Wake up sheeple!
A great poem.
You’d never been inside there. The worse rabbit Warren imaginable. Perhaps it was a quick and easy demo by the owner to collect insurance and start again. 🙂
No, just kidding.
I recall the sub-owner of the WTC (there was some complex ownership involved that I can’t exactly recall) tried to collect insurance twice over because he argued there were two events. It went nowhere but not because of lack of effort.
“Moreover their arguments are speciesist.”
Wait, what? Is this person claiming Aboriginals are a different species?
Shirley not.
Yes.
The entire building was destroyed to cover up the covert operations of the FBI/CIA.
And the building implosion was conducted by – wait for it – the FBI/CIA.
Err, helloooo fckwits.
Why wouldn’t that very same FBI/CIA ship any embarassing or incriminating material in the building to a high temperature incinerator in Upper Bumfeck Illinois?
Yes.
Implode the building.
And risk the documents around the Grassy Knoll shooter floating on the breeze and landing on someone’s balcony five blocks away.
mongs and morons
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 3:01 PM
Again, the only one mentioning a space laser is you. Why is that?
Because you refuse to say where it was fired from, what the beam was rated at in wavelength or MJ/GeV, who fired it, why, under whose command or design, how it was powered and how they had the technology to modulate the beam to symmetrically demolish a geometrically shaped object.
That’s why, you friggin’ turkey.
Watch the Thomas Bearden clip I posted above you drip. It doesn’t come from a single source.
Hmmm yes those NO voting, One Nation (PHON) voting electors insisting on an equal, colour-blind Australia under one flag are SO racist, they’re actually calling blacks “apes”.
_________
The YES campaign are huffing their own farts now.
Can’t make secret squirrel demolition work – for a whole bunch of practical reasons.
So, until something more persuasive comes along, I’m stuck with fire and expansion and structural collapse.
“Watch a video”
No, answer some friggin’ questions and stop playing pea and thimble games.
iPhone 15, now with USB C. Now that really does need a space laser.
A friend, who was one of the 11 contractors took me down to the area around early 02. I can’t recall the exact month. I’d say 90% of the debris had been removed by that time but this is just an untrained estimate. There were traces of smoke coming up from the remaining pile and I recall asking if what that was all about . He said there were still small fires coming through the debris that still hadn’t gone, and this was months after.
Somehow the annual product unveils aren’t the same since Jobs died. The Jobs biography by Waterson is worth a trip to the library. We probably won’t see another one in our lifetimes.
Ah. That was Annie’s catchcry.
That takes me back.
Yes.
And the underground part of the memorial is surprisingly dignified and moving too. One of the things that struck me was that amongst all the emotive artefacts, there was a simple small plaque with the names of the arsewipes who commandeered the planes – with no other commentary. No American exceptionalism, no jingoism, or ritual abuse – just a record.
The volume of reinforcing steel in concrete needs to be seen to be believed. Only a 6 storey apartment going up over the road but a couple of weeks between concrete pours for the lift shafts.
Might be worth bookmarking this page. It’s Baris’s prediction back in 2020. Seems pretty good and better than the vast majority.
What was Biden Doing in Alaska?
“For the first time, the president did not visit a 9/11 memorial on the day of the worst terrorist attack on US soil. Instead, the president traveled to Alaska to commit his own attack against the American people. Peter Doocy said that he received a response similar to “Well, presidents stopped visiting Hawaii 22 years after Pearl Harbor,” or in other words, the president does not feel obligated to honor the victims of the attack since it’s in the past. He claimed he was at ground zero on the very day of the attack, but records show that he clearly was not in New York. So why did Biden travel to Alaska? Biden announced he was canceling all drilling on Federal land in Alaska and termination existing permits. In unison, he prohibited liquid gas from being transported via train. This will put a strain on the supply chain as trucking is the only viable transportation method now.
Demand will outweigh supply. Joe Biden drained America’s oil reserves when prices where skyrocketing and he was coming under pressure. The stockpile is at the lowest level since the 1980s, and since we cannot drill our own gas, we are at the mercy of our suppliers who continue to raise the price. Energy had never been an issue prior to Biden taking office and eliminating America’s energy independence.
Is it even legal for the Biden Administration to cancel previously issues leases? Alaskan Governor Mike Dunleavy believes that Biden is bypassing the law and intends to sue his administration. Dunleavy noted that while the Secretary of the Department may cancel oil and gas leases issued in violation, no such violation exists. “The leases AIDEA hold in ANWR were legally issued in a sale mandated by Congress. It’s clear that President Biden needs a refresher on the Constitution’s separation of powers doctrine. Federal agencies don’t get to rewrite laws, and that is exactly what the Department of the Interior is trying to do here,” said Governor Mike Dunleavy. “We will fight for Alaska’s right to develop its own resources and will be turning to the courts to correct the Biden Administration’s wrong.”
Democrats are upset at the ruling as it takes away jobs from native Alaskans. U.S. Rep. Mary Peltola, a Democrat, said that she will continue fighting the lease cancelations. “This makes absolutely no sense from any perspective unless your goal is to drive up the cost of oil and gas so much that it makes certain renewables cheaper,” Dunleavy told Fox News.
Biden has just ensured rising energy costs for all Americans. This is so important to Biden and his handlers that they insisted on spending a national day of mourning in Alaska to reframe climate change as the larger threat to this nation. What does one do when the people in charge are deliberately ruining the nation? They can only blame Russia and climate change for so long until the masses wake up.”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/what-is-biden-doing-in-alaska/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
Apparently it was a super secret program that had trained squirrels (the rodents) to carry out covert spying ops, mainly around New York. The squirrels were housed in WTC 7 and were ordered by their CIA/FBI handlers to destroy the building so their existence wouldn’t be discovered.
Or something like that. I haven’t read it for over twenty years but do remember finding it very funny at the time.
A couple of things.
Firstly, I don’t have a huge problem with this, except Michael Christian has been loading blokes up for a lot less for two years.
Secondly, I was surprised at Brayshaw’s lack of awareness. One golden rule for sneaky forwards is that, when your opponents feet have both left the ground, his ability to change direction is somewhat compromised. A Charlie Cameron type would have feigned the kick, waited for the jump and cruised around the defender to slot an easy goal from 40 metres.
Had that happened the coach would have been up Maynard for over-committing.
“Perfesser Plankton”, Rabz an uptick would not give that remark the credit it deserves since I could only give it one. How do the left get so many stupid people that are supposedly university qualified. Have these sorts of people really ever passed any examinations or do they just roll up and collect the bit of paper for belonging to the collective? I can’t get my head around it, they seem to think just because they say something its true coz they want it to be.
Applying the Rabz doctrine to the WTC Building 7 is a step too far, even for Trickler’s CIA handlers.
This was, of course, the reason why the concept of ‘conspiracy theory’ was invented..
Spoiler alert – some conspiracies are real – if they weren’t, we would have no need for the term.
Well yes, but you’re forgetting the space laser vaporising death ray.
Get a grip, that would be like the Democrats nobbling the peoples choice (Bernie last time, RFKJ this time) and the people rolling over and letting it happen…. oh, wait …..
Interesting.
The AFL has the vapourising death ray, but can’t tell if a ball has missed the goalpost by a foot.
Republicans lose by 10 pts.
Knuckles that video to watch was Looney Tunes. There were lots of them, really funny. Some thought they were true, a bit like Reality TV. I know you’ll be surprised that its not real but there you go. Neither is the Easter Bunny. Sorry.
In reinforced concrete columns, the cross-sectional area of the steel varies between 1% and 4% of the gross cross-sectional area of the column. If at the latter quantity, there is serious congestion around reinforcement splices and the like. Walls normally have much less than columns. Nevertheless, the amount of steel does look very large indeed.
That death ray was the Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator, invented years ago. Dontcha know history.
Bay of Pigs, Gulf of Tonkin, JFK, 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Arab Spring, Ukraine 2014, Trump/Russia/FISA, 2020 stolen election, Covid 19, the Vaxx and then imprisonment, Biden Family are totally innocent, what laptop, what Inflation?
Fer FS , after all this anyone believing the propaganda from “official sources” wants their head read. We are being lied to ALL THE TIME.
I was talking to a God Oracle on the Metro tunnel project a couple of weeks ago, and he said the thing has specs akin to long span bridges.
Monster amounts of steel reo.
So much that the size of the aggregate has to be 8mm to get it in and around the steel.
The part that bothers me is AFTER the orange god is elected.
The man couldn’t get a tiddlywinks team of effective and trustworthy people together last time. How in heck is he going to reform the Leviathan and restore democracy?
The bickering over September 11 overlooks the fact close to 3000 people perished on that dark day. Maybe give it a rest?
Dover
At no stage before the 20 election did Baris warn about cheating on the Demon side. He gave no warning. In fact the only two people that I read who were cautioning about a Trump loss due to cheating were infidel and Cronkite. Yes, I’m 100% correct: the only two!
Why is Baris so special when he was so wrong. He wasn’t just acting as a poll expert but he was peddling himself as an election expert. Why should he have more cred coming into the 24 election?
Perhaps you should entice Artie back and we’d have two election gurus :-).
OK with me.
Chris:
That’s why I asked the question.
What happens next?
Are you sure he or Barnes didn’t warn about the mail-in voting?
Because his numbers for each were better than most or all other pundits.
Actually it’s not an odd question as has high odds, which I reckon would be close to 40% as a guess.
The insurrection schtick is quite serious with people been put away for a very long time. I’m reading this as a strategy to potentially put Trump away in the clink. If some of these people are being jailed for insurrection when the most that could be said it was minor act of trespass what are the chances these convictions aren’t used to mail Trump? In a DC court too!
Gone are the days of taking your sleeping bag to wait three days* for the latest iPhone… a “better” camera, USB-C (or whatevs), more memory are hardly more flash than the 14, or X for that matter…
*i never did.
Dover
No, I don’t think he did and I spent time reading his comments. If he did, it wasn’t the major part of his thesis which was Trumpster would win.
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 3:18 PM
“Watch a video”
No, answer some friggin’ questions and stop playing pea and thimble games.
Get of your arse and watch the clips. You’re instant dismissal is telling. Scalar technology exists. Fire two or more convergent beams into a single point ie from high powered radar stations focused on a single point and the sh*t hits the fan.
Truth be told, the Bearden lecture is hard to follow because I am not a scientist, but, has been confirmed by others who are.. The tech exists. It is real and was used on 911; used in the Oklahoma City “Bombing”, Maui, Paradise California wild fires in witch all the structures were fried and not the vegetation ( Maui ) and will be used again.
People now have the signs to look for. Car melted along side that tree that has only be singed from the heat.
Come summertime, and it will be used in Australia again. Mark my words.
Sancho Panzer
Sep 13, 2023 2:35 PM
Today’s rabbit burrow expedition has been brought to you by Feelthebern Inc.
Part of me wants to apologise for sabotaging the Cat today with WTC7.
But then scrolling through today’s work, it’s like an annual ritual where people get it out of their system.
Like a going on a massive bender and then behaving yourself for the rest of the year.
It’s good to blow the cobwebs out.
Nail, not mail
Are you sure he or Barnes didn’t warn about the mail-in voting?
They said it was open to abuse.
They had no idea about the size of the operation.
Was about to post a short clip about DEW’s and 911 from last night and Y -Tube have deleted it already.
Telling.
Baris is good in statewide elections.
In 2021, he got Virginia the most right of all the pundits.
He re-wrote history after the midterms in 2022.
He blew up in Arizona big time.
Visits to the tribunal even more of a lottery during the finals. Been a few mystery results over the past few years, especially for “name”players. I don’t really have a problem with this one. AFL couldn’t really just let it go through to the keeper in the current environment.
JC, can you repost the Trump video?
Alan Clark’s book “Barbarossa” states that, at the outbreak of war on the Eastern Front, the Soviet inventory of tanks and aircraft exceeded the total of the rest of the world put together – two thousand of those aircraft were destroyed in the firs two days of that war.
Clark also tells the story of one new German governor of the occupied territories, who forcibly impressed several of the local girls to form his harem.
One of the girls planted an anti personnel mine, in his bed, which blew him to pieces.
Strikes me that that young lady would have made a damnfine Kitteh.
Let the nanowrigglers out for a walk.
Been a few mystery results over the past few years, especially for “name”players.
Aye. One need only look at Patrick Cripps last year. The Brownlow shouldn’t be in his possession.
These DEW pushers really need to understand how much energy is needed to do what they are saying over the distances they saying shit happened.
We are talking Transformers or Star Wars.
There is a big difference having some sound weapon that causes discomfort for punters at a protest than there is having something lighting fires or bringing down buildings from orbit.
https://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter%20VI%20Materials%20&%20Structures.pdf
feelthebern
Sep 13, 2023 4:38 PM
These DEW pushers really need to understand how much energy is needed to do what they are saying over the distances they saying shit happened.
We are talking Transformers or Star Wars.
There is a big difference having some sound weapon that causes discomfort for punters at a protest than there is having something lighting fires or bringing down buildings from orbit.
Who says they are doing it from orbit?
Bern,
I’ll try to find it.
Here’s another. Of course the Trumpster witnessed it from his window.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKlPhFIE7w
He’s like Where’s Waldo.
Thanks JC, will have look.
Golden! Warner Bros could do stuff back then. Sadly they’ve declined now into woke like Disney.
Haredevil Hare (1948)
People are just shooting their mouths off on the subject like they’ve known about it all along.
Good God.
“Diogenes
Sep 13, 2023 9:28 AM”
I think you said it best.
Then they would ensure their own loss and Democrats’ win, more than half of Republican voters would stay home.
That’s a really interesting video/interview.
Firstly, the respect shown from the interviewers…amazing how all that changed.
Also, in answer to where did all the material go – 600mm of debris in Wall St and to the Brooklyn Bridge. Hard to imagine.
He blew up big time in Arizona because they cheated big time. How can you possibly have a candidate for governor at the election overseeing the election as was the case with the current governor?
It’s instructive to observe how people who have never troubled to learn anything about material physics or structures will, given a catastrophe involving the same, feel entirely free to pontificate. These people have not the faintest notion of the extent of their ignorance.
The same can be said of other matters; anthropogenic global warming being an obvious example.
It’s an educational failure. The teachers haven’t let their students discover their inadequacies. It’s gone on for generations now, and too late to fix it. We’re finished. All civilisations fall apart eventually; all we can do is enjoy the decadence.
You are not only of low intelligence and poorly educated but you are a disgrace.
9/11, Oklahoma City bombing were really done with space lasers, FMD this is dumb and sick.
Your proof is people are unwilling to watch absolutely nonsensical videos that rely on emotive persuasion instead of actual evidence.
Just log off.
Go to Scarborough beach and keep swimming until you hit Madagascar.
“Scalar weapons”
Which apparently operate on the sum of two vectors.
World class asshattery.
He blew up big time in Arizona because they cheated big time.
Yes.
And aspects of the cheating were telegraphed back in January 2022.
By McCain Republicans.
Doc
I believe you are simply being your negative self. This is a contemporary take on small-talk. People used to chatter endlessly at the kitchen table or in the tavern back in the day. Do you honestly believe that people didn’t opine about difficult issues back then but had no idea WTF they were talking about?
Be a little more expansive. Even the so-called experts are guessing, even though there is some idiotic shit being talked here since testing a theory is the only way to be 95% confident. Only by constructing an exact replica of the 911 structure and ramming powerful jets into it and having all sorts of sensors could the effects of the attack truly be tested. Hence the conjecture.
Quite so. Particularly if the concrete is sprayed or pumped.
Throwing another curve ball. All those incredible structures built in the 1800’s? F*ck off!
Try about a thousand years prior.
Lies have been told.
Ancient Budapest?
Bern
I’m heading out for dins, I’ll look again for the vid when I get back. I checked my history and it’s wall to wall Trump so it’s hard to find or where I originally found it.
Dot
Sep 13, 2023 5:21 PM
“Scalar weapons”
Which apparently operate on the sum of two vectors.
World class asshattery.
Poor Dot.
Oooooh, they were so done with space lasers. So were:
The 2004 Indonesian tsunami
Collingwood’s 2018 GF loss to West Coast
Black Saturday (1939 and 2009)
The land bridge between Australia and PNG
Molly Meldrum’s ladder ‘accident’
The 1970 West Gate Bridge collapse
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, 1945
Derryn Hinch’s repeated liver failures
Moses parting the Red Sea
Bodyline, 1931-32
God, you people. Educate yourselves.
here’s a theory.
the WTC buildings were targeted precisely because their ability stand up relied on both the integrity of the building’s outer skin and the interlocking floor system
penetrating the outer and destroying multiple floors
and with the likelihood of ongoing fire
probably sealed the deal.
I reckon they knew there was a strong chance they could take them down
KD, I am in awe.
Matrix, even had the buildings not collapsed, it would “send a message”…we can get you where you work and live.
The Pentagon, another target, was a hopeless one if destruction was the aim. Again another message…we can get your military hq too.
The last one, the unsuccessful one, was destined (supposedly) for Washington. The message from that is a no-brainer.
MSNBC Columnist Says Trump “Must Die In Prison” to Send a Message to the Public That “You Can’t Do This”
Not as if the same mob hadn’t tried before.
When you YouTube “trump, 9/11, towers” you get about a million videos.
Don’t sweat it if you can’t find it.
Knuckle Dragger
Sep 13, 2023 5:37 PM
The top of the building had two circular entry points from above after which they covered in tarps.
A newspaper building down road almost a km ( ? ) away were rooted. H/t Harry Mason – Bright Skies. Cracked to shit.
Did you know that?
Well..,bin Laden had trained as an engineer, a good educated guess probably.
From the Oz, Terry McCrann getting stuck into the government.
If governments were serious about disinformation they would have had a network special on how two planes full of fuel slamming into buildings just might cause the things to collapse.
There have always been ignorant nitwits in the pubs pontificating on things they knew nothing about. Informed people ignored it. The problems arise when the ‘elites’ are also ignorant nitwits. Such is now the case.
yep
and the message was ‘you bring your war to us, and we’ll bring it back to you’
Apparently, Sevastopol port is burning as we type
things are not good
KD, I’m not a hater, but as I recall the Bodyline Series was 1932-33.
A slip of the keyboard?
Bit of a worry that STEM uni entrants can’t now add 1/2 + 1/3.
Mine is a Grant Burge Cabernet Merlot 2021. Cheap and yummy. I await the end of the world in fire, or something.
(Just gave a lump of mince to southern mapgie male, it’s right on dusk here at the Cafe. His kids might be starving! Not. Life goes on.)
I’m sure American voters are getting the message, they better vote for Democrats and if anyone questions the results they will die in jail. Have they built their Lubyanka yet or will they have political prisons like Saddam Hussein?