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OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 18, 2023 12:52 pm

Indigenous activist claims Sydney Yes rally was “lacking First Nations People” as he condemns Voice

An estimated 200,000 Aussies gathered across the nation over the weekend to show their support for the Voice – but one Aboriginal activist claims something was missing.

Bruce Shillingsworth, 32, who has created his own alternative police force “to take control through power, jurisdiction and authority of tribal lands”, was spotted at the rally in Sydney.

The controversial figure claimed in a clip filmed during the rally at Redfern Park that there were “just a few First Nations brothers and sisters here”.

He said the rallies were reflective of “nice non-Indigenous people thinking they have the right to speak for First Nations people”.

He later told news.com.au that the lack of First Nations people at the rally “stuck out like a sore thumb”.

He said it was particularly concerning given Redfern, where the rally started, is home to a high number of Indigenous Australians.

“It’s a bit of a surprise,” he said.

Roger
Roger
September 18, 2023 12:55 pm

The law is retrospective – and the Guardian is salivating:

They are likely to be immediately relevant to the case of a high-profile man accused of raping a woman in Toowoomba in 2021.

Early days, but his chances of getting a fair trial could reasonablybe called into question.

Last I heard his solicitors had subpoenaed the accuser’s phone records, which suggests they are looking at a possible conspiracy.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 18, 2023 12:56 pm

Real Deal
Sep 18, 2023 12:12 PM
Rachael Kohn, Mosman, NSW

Former ABC presenter?

I’m guessing it is, Roger. Surprising view.

IIRC, the Religion report was essentially focused on Christianity?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 18, 2023 12:56 pm

If Yes wins what are the chances these are some of the 24?

Thomas Mayo
Noel Pearson
Marcus Stewart
Marcia Langton
Teela Reed

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 18, 2023 12:58 pm

Managed to snaffle a 1.5 hour paper paper run when I was 12. The previous bloke had taken to throwing the newspapers at milk bottles left on door steps too much.

It paid $7 a week for six early mornings of work, and I was rich!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 18, 2023 1:01 pm

PS Johamma – in NSW it was from memory 14 years 9 Months to leave School – all my wife’s Sisters left at that age to do either Secretaial Courses or in case of 2, work at Lotteries Office

Old Ozzie, I was agreeing with Joh that working early was a good thing, not adding more about that from my own experiences, which are well known here anyway.

On the school leaving age, it was 14 years and 9 months. I was 14 and 4 months in November 1956, after the Intermediate Certificate, July birthday, so kept under the radar till April, 1957 re full time work and especially re living out of home, as you had to be 16 for that to be legal. Luckily it was easy enough to put your age up to get a job in those days.

I always think I was more mature in my teen years working hard than I was when I finally got to university. I actually think I regressed there in maturity, revelling in the social life and financial freedom offered by my Commonwealth Scholarship living out of home allowance, which I got at 21 by having been out of home and working for the requisite period.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 18, 2023 1:02 pm

Shillingsworths Jnr was convicted, 2 weeks ago, of setting fire to Old Parliament House in December 2021. $5m damage.

Dot
Dot
September 18, 2023 1:05 pm

Last I heard his solicitors had subpoenaed the accuser’s phone records, which suggests they are looking at a possible conspiracy.

I’m here to eat popcorn and chew bubblegum and I’m all out of bubblegum.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
September 18, 2023 1:06 pm

Ha ha ha typical Labor, on the attack, adversarial and combative not realising they have just opned the debate on Nuclear Power based on cost .. nothing else, just cost.

We need smart politicians that can play these fools like a fiddle like this. Not sure how much of this thinking, if any, was behind Dutton’s strategy, but it was never going to happen without a strong push for nuclear energy.

It also shows how weak past Liberal leaders were, even though the time is better now than it has been for a long time.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 18, 2023 1:09 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Sep 18, 2023 1:01 PM

PS Johamma – in NSW it was from memory 14 years 9 Months to leave School – all my wife’s Sisters left at that age to do either Secretaial Courses or in case of 2, work at Lotteries Office

Old Ozzie, I was agreeing with Joh that working early was a good thing, not adding more about that from my own experiences, which are well known here anyway.

Lizzie,

just taking the Mickey with thoughts of the Four Yorshireman

– Am having arguments with Son & Daughter re 2 Final Years telling them to aim to get a job & do Uni part time – better life experience than going to Uni Full Time – Told Employers don’t do pay Full Time workers Fees when they pass any more doing Uni Part Time while working.

Pity

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 18, 2023 1:09 pm

While I am opposed in principle to “treaty” I think that Mundine’s comments in the interview are not as explosive as portrayed. You need to view the actual interview, rather than the interpretation in the media.

Wise words, again.

Mundine has been front and center for years in his support for a change to January 26 Australia Day – much to the joy of the Caring Left. Similarly, from the get-go of the Uluru Statement, Mundine has been clear in his support for ‘multiple treaties’ and opposition to Voice.

The current imbroglio seems to be a case of the media sandbagging the Yes Case, while hoping the voteherd have goldfish memories.

This sort of ‘platform inconsistency’ is anathema to Lefty thinking; so creatures like the Grauniad scribe imagines that No Voters are going to be brought all undone by a different perspective on other issues.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 18, 2023 1:10 pm

His (Bowen’s) nuke figures are BS, but even assuming they’re true, renewables are busted and debunked as economically viable.

What he did not include in his ‘comparison’ of nuke to renewables is the fact that nuke is reliable, while renewables will always require non-renewable back up to fill the all-too-frequent lulls due to the weather.

Very few politicians have the slightest expertise in the portfolios they run, and that is not surprising. People familiar with he energy sector will have that knowledge because…they are in the energy sector.

But only a few seem to have any skill in ‘using’ experts, knowing what questions to ask, having a sense of when they are being misled or deceived, knowing how to use two experts’ working off and against each other, and being able to sniff out someone with an agenda.

But, truthfully, the mangy herd that is modern labor is so thoroughly bereft of any skill that would obtain in the real world that all they can do is rattle off the most irrelevant and unfounded inanities that the air has been forced to carry in soundwaves.

I have no doubt that if Bowen wanted a boiled egg for breakfast he would take the egg out of the carton and then assault it with all sorts of reasons why it (whatever ‘it’ is) is all Dutton’s fault.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 18, 2023 1:15 pm

But, on goldfish:

Liberals say Warren Mundine’s stance on treaties and Australia Day could cost him Senate seat

A senior party source says Mundine ‘made it very difficult for himself’ in race to succeed retiring NSW senator Marise Payne

Mundine has been touted as a possible candidate for the NSW vacancy created by Marise Payne’s resignation. He has been supported by former prime minister Scott Morrison and his centre-right factional ally Alex Hawke.

But the hand of the front-runner, the former New South Wales transport minister Andrew Constance, was strengthened by Mundine’s comments on ABC’s Insiders on Sunday.

Smart politics getting your Centre Left man’s story out to interfere with the Centre Right’s position on the Voice.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 18, 2023 1:15 pm

Well, Cats, I can put it off no longer. Packing count down, check lists to hand. The washing is done. The ironing calls. The medications are sorted. The suitcases are up from the storeroom, and Attapuss is having deep suspicions that all is not well in his world. At one stage he used to hop into the cases implying that he thought he should come too. No longer though. Experience has shown him otherwise.

It’s a morning flight and Hairy has agreed not to leave his packing till the hour before the taxi arrives. I am not entirely sure that he will comply, but here’s hoping. I cannot help, because his mantra is always ‘don’t touch my stuff’.

Johnny Rotten
September 18, 2023 1:17 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 18, 2023 11:41 AM

Yet, some states are already negotiating treaties.

Western Australia has negotiated two “de facto” treaties with the Noongars – “Native title claims” being considered settled, in exchange for substantial economic and job opportunities.

A treaty is an international agreement concluded in written form between two or more States (or international organisations) and is governed by international law. A treaty gives rise to international legal rights and obligations.

The power to enter into treaties is an Executive Power within Section 61 of the Australian Constitution.

https://www.dfat.gov.au/international-relations/treaties#:~:text=The%20power%20to%20enter%20into,DFAT)%20have%20responsibility%20for%20treaties.

So, the States are making “Claytons treaties” (Agreements) only and the States will need to answer to their electorates for their own “treaties” and the conditions agreed to at the next election time I guess.

As to the Feral Guv’ment, a treaty is a treaty and an international agreement as stated above.

Australia can’t have a treaty with itself.

Dot
Dot
September 18, 2023 1:17 pm

Andrew Constance

LOL!

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 1:18 pm

An anecdote.

Last night, we went out for dinner with a very trendy, inner-city left-wing couple. And yes, it was a vegetarian/vegan shithole. I like the couple because, other than their trendy politics, they’re nice.

Wifey begged me to go, but I asked if it was okay to wear a leather belt and shoes.

This isn’t the story, though. We worked our way through what you couldn’t call a dinner and began talking about the invoice.

Both said that although they were for it at the beginning, as time went on, they became totally against it, as no one should hold higher constitutional status. They gave other reasons too.

This change of heart is exactly what we’re seeing in the polls. If the invoice has lost this couple’s vote, it will go down the gurgler without touching the sides.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 18, 2023 1:23 pm

I’m not aware of any surviving indigenous language groups in Queensland.

Roger, there may be some surviving.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 18, 2023 1:25 pm

We worked our way through what you couldn’t call a dinner

It is strange how they will serve people the food that should have been given to an animal so the animal can be food.

Imagine being given a bowl of grass when you could have eye fillet?

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 18, 2023 1:26 pm

IIRC, the Religion report was essentially focused on Christianity?

It was back in the day, BJ. I used to listen to RN back in the late 80s to mid 90s on Sunday nights. The religious program was called Insight and was hosted by (now) ex priest Paul Collins and later Rachel Kohn. Rachel is Jewish and interestingly enough, I think she did her PhD under E.P. Sanders, the New Testament scholar at Oxford (I think). I guess all things religious on the ABC has probably moved into a more multifaith direction.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 18, 2023 1:27 pm

Old Ozzie, when I went to uni (‘mature age’ at 21!) I began to realise how much I had missed out on in my early years. I still think the value of full-time attendance at Uni is the interaction you have with bright people of all sorts, the chance for directed and undirected reading, and the freedom to enjoy a workfree lifestyle available only to aristocrats in times past. That’s how it was for me, back then, though I think the pressures of continuous assessment and online learning plus overcrowding would now have taken some of that interactive magic away. So has welfare dependence. Lot of people don’t work now, and lead unenviable lives due to that. To me, it was such a privilege, not to be squandered, but appreciated as leading to better things.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 1:28 pm

Similar scene at Stitch n’ Bitch this morning. All Lefties (apart from my self and two others).

They started talking “Voice” and it was on! Not touching “Yes” with a bargepole. Game changer was being called “racist” and “stupid”. Also, they’ve all been in a position to watch largesse and favour dished out discriminatorily as this area has a large box-ticking population. To people with exactly the same background as they have.

Thanks Marcia.

johanna
johanna
September 18, 2023 1:28 pm

Agree, JC, it’s gone.

I wonder if calling most voters racist rednecks is an election-winning strategy?

Does Luigi get to keep his frequent flyer points and QANTAS Club membership if he is sacked?

johanna
johanna
September 18, 2023 1:36 pm

Mother Lode
Sep 18, 2023 1:25 PM

We worked our way through what you couldn’t call a dinner

It is strange how they will serve people the food that should have been given to an animal so the animal can be food.

Imagine being given a bowl of grass when you could have eye fillet?

The giveaway is that they try to make it look and taste like real meat. Why would you do that if your product is superior?

That said, I have had many delicious and filling and nutritionally adequate vego meals. Millions of Indians over the centuries have survived and thrived on a vego diet. Nothing wrong with that.

Overlaying it with guilt and lies about ‘da Environment’ is another thing entirely.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 18, 2023 1:37 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Sep 18, 2023 1:27 PM

Old Ozzie, when I went to uni (‘mature age’ at 21!) I began to realise how much I had missed out on in my early years. I still think the value of full-time attendance at Uni is the interaction you have with bright people of all sorts, the chance for directed and undirected reading, and the freedom to enjoy a workfree lifestyle available only to aristocrats in times past.

Lizzie,

I was 16 when I started Uni (Ok turned 17 soon after) also on Commonwealth Scholarship and Living Away from Home Allowance – (Johns) – had the time of my life, given having taken Temperance Pledge at 15 till 21, in Engineering Faculty was designated driver and enjoyed chatting up Girls whilst mates were gathered around the keg – although in those days Girls would not go out with Guys of the same age, so most of my girlfriends were 2 years younger and still at school – same for most of my mates

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 18, 2023 1:40 pm

A vicarious travelogue moment.

London son in France for the Wallabies/Fiji match sent us a photo of a traditional Lyonnaise market stall.

Some background: Brexit largely got up because the Brits were frustrated by the myriad of petty EU rules coming out of Brussels. One of the annoying ones was the demise of the family butcher, where the butchers shop formed part of a house and it wasn’t practical to create a constant temperature display/service environment or maintain a positive internal air pressure to exclude insects and spoilage microorganisms. With the Brits being rules-based, this caused the closure of multiple small village butchers and significant inconvenience.

The picture from Lyon, shows an open-air trestle table displaying delicious looking saucisson plus cuts of raw meat, uncovered, in the full sun, with the butcher’s dog dozing underneath. EU 673-22zg handwashing/drying facilities not in sight.

Allez la France.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 18, 2023 1:41 pm

Russia-Ukraine Reports – 2023-09-17

A SKEPTIC
18 SEPT 2023

And the world is getting closer to nuclear war.

Military expert Alexander Zimovsky: “The Pentagon transferred the Third Infantry Division to Poland in the Belarusian direction, including it in the combat strength of the Fifth Infantry Corps of the US Army located in Poland.

The division forms the backbone of the newly formed US Army task force “Marne” in the Belarusian/Kaliningrad direction. The division is regularly assigned a self-propelled artillery brigade, a Second Tank Brigade and a Third Aviation Brigade, as well as a logistics and logistics support brigade.

Task Force Marne is given command of all U.S. Army infantry, armored, aviation, and logistics units in Poland and the Baltics.

Ukrainian sources report that the Rovne and Khmelnitsky nuclear power plants were turned into arsenals of especially valuable ammunition.

Nuclear plants house the most valuable Western weapons, such as missiles for HIMARS rocket systems and air defense systems. Large-caliber artillery ammunition is stored near the nuclear power plant.

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is confident that there will be no attacks on nuclear power plants.

https://t.me/Kharkov_Perviy/38838

Ukrainian Nazis themselves will blow up their nuclear power plants when Russia advances. And Russia will attack and defeat the Ukrainian army of the United States and NATO

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 1:44 pm

Just kill it now. Fire everyone and salt the earth.

ABC scraps vision showing a person of colour stealing goods from supermarket

The ABC has stripped vision depicting a person of colour shoplifting in a news report and educated staff on the matter after receiving complaints.

The story, “Why supermarkets are seeing more theft in their stores”, aired on ABC’s 7pm news bulletins on August 23 and shortly after the public broadcaster received five complaints. These included that using a person of colour “perpetuated a stereotype that shoplifters were not likely to be white”. There were also concerns the CCTV footage showing the person of colour stealing was used multiple times.

ABC ombudsman Fiona Cameron launched an investigation, reviewing the footage to see if it breached the ABC’s editorial stands for harm and offence.

The footage was supplied to the ABC by Drakes supermarket and used in the TV news story to show someone who had allegedly been caught by the supermarket’s security system after stealing goods and before leaving the store. Included in the footage was vision showing a person of colour walking into a store, putting their hands in their pockets while the reporter said, “Theft is on the rise at supermarkets across the country. It’s costing John Paul Drake’s business $10m a year”.

Ms Cameron said the use of the vision was concerning and she had voiced her concerns to the ABC.

“While the use of the footage might be justified in the context of the story, it is regrettable that the only video of an alleged shoplifter was of a person of colour,” she said.

“After passing on my concerns to senior news and editorial policy staff, to help inform what footage is shown in future stories about similar content, a decision was made to remove the video-on-demand version of the story from iview and the Instagram post.”

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 18, 2023 1:47 pm

Chris Bowen has targeted Peter Dutton’s pro-nuclear agenda, releasing new estimates that converting coal-fired power stations to 71 reactors would cost $387bn.

Same cost as the subs?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 18, 2023 1:49 pm

it is regrettable that the only video of an alleged shoplifter was of a person of colour

How does that translate into “It is untrue…”?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 18, 2023 1:50 pm

Perhaps most noteworthy is Shillingsworth’s establishment of a ‘Tribal Lore Enforcement’ body to “maintain and protect national sovereignty”.

He frequently appears in pictures with his ‘Lore Enforcement’ uniform, which chillingly mirrors the actual NSW police uniform but is slightly darker.

Isn’t impersonating a police officer a criminal offense?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 18, 2023 1:53 pm

a person of colour

They used to be called “darkies”. If it was a bloke, it would be a “blackfella”. Or a “boong”. Sheilas would be “lubras”. Or “gins”.

Entropy
Entropy
September 18, 2023 1:59 pm

Uni is a lot less interactive, by which I mean less social these days. Courses are huge, with many, if not the majority foreign students that nick in and out of classes and then off to their full time job which wa the real aim of the visa. Then there are the online classes. Some kids only go to campus to do exams.
My daughter went to the engineering ball on the weekend. 2000 people, but she knew hardly any of them. It seems not too many actual engineering students.

billie
billie
September 18, 2023 2:03 pm

Roger
I’m not aware of any surviving indigenous language groups in Queensland.

There’s a whole industry keeping dead languages afloat at Uni Qld and other research facilities.

One reason is the ease of Grant Funding is you relate it to Aboriginal “culture”, easy peasy.

A friend of a friend is involved I have to admit, I don’t know them, but they are doing very nicely thank you, researching and documenting old and near dead languages. Involves many field trips of course.

Story I heard, and I don’t know if it is true, in one place, NT/Qld border area was there were 2 people who spoke remnants of their tribal communication verbal method but they wouldn’t talk to each other as their families had been feuding all their lives.

Dead and almost dead language and cultural research is alive and well and very well funded.

Also
https://www.ciaraproject.com/

Robert Sewell
September 18, 2023 2:05 pm

Petros:

Just reading about the term “defence in depth”. Is the current Russian approach to the Ukraine war an example of that? Similar to the battle of Kursk.

Very similar, apart from the fact the Russians haven’t penetrated the German High Command with the Lucy spy ring. We think the Russians haven’t penetrated the Ukraine operations staff, perhaps.
We’ll find out after war by comparing the Execution List with the Promotions List.

Bill P
Bill P
September 18, 2023 2:06 pm

The huge thrust requiring fuel transfer needed on Concorde to get it aloft has always worried me.
I get it. You’re trolling me.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 2:10 pm

I never claimed the draft treaty only involved denying membership to Ukraine.

You never made the claim, but your link certainly left out the other list of demands. It was misleading.

Further, I’m not even saying anything in that comment. All I’ve done is quote two people re the draft treaty proposed by Russia in Dec 2021 that was simply rejected by the US.

It was rejected by NATO.
(Perhaps, you’re unaware, but one of the enduring things about NATO is that even the smallest member can raise an objection and NATO is unable to move forward. So much for a tyrannical regime.)

You quoted to people who were deceptive by omission.

Apart from claiming I mispresented Stoltenberg, your substantive argument seems to be that the claim “NATO before the war that it could avert it by denying membership to Ukraine” is contradicted by the further demand of the removal of US bases and assets from post-1997 NATO additions.

Of course it’s contradicted because NATO enlargement wasn’t the only demand in the ransom note.

I don’t think so for at least two reasons. Firstly, no one has argued that Ukraine neutrality alone was involved in those negotiations.

The link you posted most certainly implied that by omitting those other demands.

And, secondly, its entirely hypothetical that Russia would have went to war anyway without at least the two draft points above being met.

Eggsactly, Ukraine neutrality wouldn’t have been enough for the Klepto.

Moreover, what the above demonstrates is that NATO enlargement, contrary to the denials of the Washington-London disinformation campaigns, was the principal point of dispute that led to the Russo-Ukrainian War. Entry of the Central European, Baltic and Balkan states could be tolerated but each movement eastward was becoming increasingly intolerable. The intent to integrate Ukraine into NATO was simply too much.

And yet, here we are, almost 2 years into the war and Ukraine hasn’t been offered NATO membership nor the EU. This is something you refuse to even acknowledge.

You posted the twitter comment along with the vid. It was a fakenews misrepresentation.

John H.
John H.
September 18, 2023 2:18 pm

Bill P
Sep 18, 2023 2:06 PM
The huge thrust requiring fuel transfer needed on Concorde to get it aloft has always worried me.
I get it. You’re trolling me.

Get used to it Bill. On this forum some people will keep responding for days. I’m too preoccupied conquering galaxies, challenging longevity freaks over their misreading of studies, building a town from nothing, debating with friends about how niacin can both inhibit and promote cancers, creating a new tropical country, trying to make people appreciate the importance of reductive stress, creating trading routes between islands and cities, helping a friend investigating Covid and infertility issues, killing radiation created beasts, and trying to understand human evolution. Better things to do.

Cassie of Sydney
September 18, 2023 2:22 pm

“They are likely to be immediately relevant to the case of a high-profile man accused of raping a woman in Toowoomba in 2021.”

Why do you think, in December 2022, a certain ACT DPP dropped the case?

Dot
Dot
September 18, 2023 2:26 pm

Oooh!

What we need, is more ALP operative chat logs.

By the barrelful.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 18, 2023 2:32 pm

Real Deal at 12:12 PM

Rachael Kohn, Mosman, NSW
Former ABC presenter?

I’m guessing it is, Roger. Surprising view.

Another traveller on the road to Damascus?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 18, 2023 2:33 pm

You’re Not Supporting Ukraine Enough Until The Nuclear Blast Hits Your Face

BY TYLER DURDEN

What happened to Elon Musk this past week showcases how completely unhinged and dangerous U.S. policy to Ukraine has become.

The condemnation began when the Washington Post published excerpts from a new biography on Musk revealing that he turned down a Ukrainian request to help launch a major sneak attack in September 2022 on the Crimean port of Sevastopol.

There were numerous, legitimate reasons why Musk refused to activate his Starlink internet services for Ukraine to carry out the unprecedented, surprise attack on Russian naval vessels: Musk was providing terminals to Ukraine for free; he was not on a military contract at that time; the late-night request came directly from the Ukrainian—not American—government; and Starlink had never been activated over Crimea because of U.S. sanctions on Russia.

Most importantly, Musk was concerned that enabling the attack could result in serious “conflict escalation.” He worried that he was being asked to turn on Starlink for a “Pearl Harbor like attack” and had no wish to “proactively take part in a major act of war,” possibly provoking a Russian nuclear response.

In response to this nuclear aversion, Musk was called “evil” by a high-level Ukrainian official and “traitor” by American war enthusiasts.

Rachel Maddow on the Russia conspiracy network MSNBC said Musk was “intervening to try to stop Ukraine from winning the war.” Not to be outdone, CNN’s Jake Tapper described Elon as a “capricious billionaire” who “sabotaged a military operation by Ukraine, a U.S. ally,” an act that demands “repercussions.” For his part, chief Iraq war salesman-turned-Democrat-darling, David Frum, said that Musk must be stripped of his U.S. government contracts for not reflexively acceding to the Ukrainian Starlink request, and former “progressive,” Sen. Elizabeth Warren, called for an immediate Congressional investigation “to ensure foreign policy is conducted by the government and not by one billionaire.”

But the Musk pile-on was just getting started. In the days that followed, his detractors used a Ukrainian operation as proof that Musk was overreacting.

Days after the Starlink story broke, Ukraine successfully launched British Storm Shadow cruise missiles into the Russian naval headquarters in the Crimean port city of Sevastopol. It was the largest attack since Moscow launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine nearly 19 months ago, and it damaged a Russian submarine and warship.

When the military action was not followed by World War III, Musk was torched again. As the pro-war media noted, “It was precisely such a strike, according to Musk, that should have provoked a nuclear war.”

Musk’s detractors might think this is all very funny, but attacking Crimea—not to mention the Russian mainland in increasingly frequent drone strikes on Moscow—is no laughing matter. Even the staunchest Western war enthusiasts from the NATO-aligned Atlantic Council to the Estonian defense minister to Biden’s own Secretary of State Antony Blinken all previously acknowledged that threatening Crimea is a possible “red line” that could lead to nuclear war.

As the Russian military specialist Nicolo Fasola pointed out in April, “There’s a definite risk that Putin would use nuclear weapons to counter a Ukrainian offensive in Crimea. And that’s why Ukraine’s Western allies are reluctant.”/em>

But that previous caution has faded—no doubt as a result of the much-touted counteroffensive disappointing American war planners, leading to a seemingly endless and halting war of attrition reminiscent of World War I.

Meanwhile, Biden’s political legacy is on the line as the presidential election looms.<

The longer the war goes on, the more the Biden administration and its NATO allies are throwing caution to the wind. Biden keeps consenting to supply weapons previously ruled out as excessively escalatory, from Patriot air defense systems to Abrams tanks to cluster munitions to F-16's. The latest reversal is over the expected transfer of Army Tactical Missile Systems that can fly up to 190 miles, enabling Ukrainian forces to strike far beyond Russia's defensive positions inside Crimea and deep into Russian sovereign territory.

National Security advisor Jake Sullivan used to rule out ATACMS "to ensure that we don't get into a situation in which we are approaching the Third World War." Even CNN, an enthusiastic advocate for greater American involvement in the war, has acknowledged the "fears about escalating the conflict."

The new mantra seems to be: We’re not trying hard enough in Ukraine until we feel the nuclear blast against our faces.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 18, 2023 2:35 pm

Tim Blair:

An Aboriginal woman of note arrives for a major engagement in Canberra. Instead of the impressive venue used previously for similar events, however, she is shown to a much smaller room.

Nevertheless, the young woman speaks at the engagement, as had been arranged. A photographer is there. He takes many excellent, expressive shots of the woman as she delivers her speech and answers questions from the crowd.

But the photograph his newspaper runs the next day on its front page doesn’t show the Aboriginal woman.

Instead the newspaper’s selected image – from probably hundreds of options – primarily depicts three white dignitaries in the front row of the audience.

The preferred image was obviously taken when the photographer’s back was to the venue’s stage.

For that matter, it was shot even before the invited Aboriginal speaker had appeared.

Not the photographer’s fault, of course. As mentioned above, he’d likely have submitted hundreds of pictures.

But that was the one his editors picked. In a front-page story about an Aboriginal woman speaking in Canberra, the Aboriginal woman herself was rendered invisible – only appearing several pages deep in that edition of the paper.

All of this sounds very 1950s or 1960s, when even Aboriginal public figures – such as they were – generally existed at the media’s margins.

Some connection with prominent white figures often helped. A 1968 picture of Lionel Rose mock-sparring with Elvis Presley is, outside of Australia at least, possibly the most famous image ever taken of the great Aboriginal boxer.

But here’s the thing. That story about an Aboriginal woman speaking in a small room and being cut from the front page didn’t happen in the 1950s or 1960s.

It happened just last week – to Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, who on Thursday delivered one of the most significant National Press Club speeches of the past 50 years.

The significance wasn’t diminished at all by the fact Price was prevented from speaking in the Press Club’s main hall – closed, as Press Club director and Sydney Morning Herald political correspondent David Crowe explained, due to “renovations we’re doing downstairs”.

It didn’t matter. If anything, the power of Price’s words was magnified by her dinky surroundings, which gave her an opportunity in her opening remarks to turn a potential negative into a charming positive.

“I actually appreciate,” she told her crowd, “the intimacy of the room.”

But Melbourne’s Age newspaper didn’t quite see things in such a sunny way.

The Age is very much in the Yes camp on the proposed Indigenous Voice to Parliament. Price is a powerful proponent of the No case.

This may explain why The Age declined to put Price’s picture on the front page, instead running an audience photograph with the caption: “Coalition MPs Barnaby Joyce, Michaelia Cash and Bridget McKenzie at the National Press Club.”

As for Price herself, she was shoved away to page four or so.

Consider the historical aspect here. In assembling this front page, nobody at The Age apparently recalled another occasion, nearly 70 years ago now, when a black woman was moved backwards so as to make room for white folk.

It was a big deal at the time. A suggestion to our Age friends: look up “Rosa Parks”, “1955” and the “Montgomery Alabama bus boycott”.

Read about it, learn about it and you’ll never move a dissenting black woman to the back of a bus, a building or a once-celebrated Melbourne paper’s rubbish news section ever again. Guaranteed.

Returning to Canberra and the events of last week, Price next offered a friendly rejoinder to master of ceremonies Crowe’s introduction: “Just a correction. Colin is my husband, not my partner. Just for the record.”

Right there is one of the most potent declarations of values you’ll see, and it took just 14 simple words.

Thereafter followed a speech that was the opposite in every way to recent public announcements from the Yes camp’s Marcia Langton.

Although characterised by a rattled Yes media as negative and dangerous, Price was actually optimistic and defiant. She spoke with the strength and confidence of someone who has endured, but not been defeated.

She took aim at tomorrow’s fixable concerns rather than continuing a class conflict that should have been buried in 1883 with Karl Marx.

And she was properly funny, which always deeply wounds the left.

So hurt them some more. Watch the speech or watch it again. Send it around. Bring joy to the land.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 2:36 pm

Spot the whitey … oh wait.

Ridiculous behaviour and it’s getting worse.

—–

steveinman:

Just Another Day At Wafflemart

Chris
Chris
September 18, 2023 2:39 pm

And, secondly, its entirely hypothetical that Russia would have went to war anyway

What is at this point hypothetical is they would NOT have started the war.
And lets remember Russian/Soviet negotiating styles. A hypothetical based on opening demands, leading to salami slicing as your position is weaselled away slice by slice – for no trustable concessions or committments.

Cassie of Sydney
September 18, 2023 2:40 pm

“Rachael Kohn, Mosman, NSW
Former ABC presenter?

I’m guessing it is, Roger. Surprising view.”

If this is the ABC’s Kohn, I’ve met her. I’m not surprised, she’s an interesting and intelligent woman. Once upon a time there were also other interesting and intelligent men and women who worked at the ABC, there may still be some good eggs at the broadcaster although I think the corporation has been been hollowed out over the last decade, and it’s now a cathedral of neo-Marxist guff.

I suspect Rachael would know a concert is not a place for a political lecture. She’s the child of survivors who narrowly escaped Nazis. She’s not stupid.

johanna
johanna
September 18, 2023 2:40 pm

Entropy
Sep 18, 2023 1:59 PM

Uni is a lot less interactive, by which I mean less social these days. Courses are huge, with many, if not the majority foreign students that nick in and out of classes and then off to their full time job which wa the real aim of the visa. Then there are the online classes. Some kids only go to campus to do exams.
My daughter went to the engineering ball on the weekend. 2000 people, but she knew hardly any of them. It seems not too many actual engineering students.

I realise that tertiary edumacashion cannot be the same as it was in years gone by.

But, when I was at the ANU in the early 70s, it was about 4,000 students, and about half of them were post graduates. Effectively the undergraduate population was about the size of a large high school.

People (including me) made lifelong friendships. John Short, the eccentric Master of my college, Garran Hall, was both a respected academic and a very unusual personality. He had the classic English college dry sense of humour and a taste for dissent. Oh, and he was literate, a word that the eejits writing text and headlines today don’t even understand.

Today, the former glorious parklands are covered with ugly, cheapo buildings to service the thousands of international students whose fees puff up the salaries of the administrators.

The Union Bar, once home to gritty live bands, is now a no smoking lookalike to an airport terminal.

I am a Life Member of the ANU Union, and served on the Union Board (elected) in the 70’s. When I turned up with my Life Membership card a few years ago, they didn’t know what I was talking about.

The transformation of universities into degree factories is very dispiriting.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 2:41 pm

Excellent. Give this lady a medal.

—-

steveinman:

Mother walks into classroom and tears down pride flag

C.L.
C.L.
September 18, 2023 2:46 pm

Superb column by Blair.
Send it around.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 18, 2023 2:51 pm

….?”Rape and sexual assault are some of the most underreported criminal offences in Australia…

Just like packs of Kate Bushes, roaming the land having their way with unsuspecting teenage boys while they sleep..
Oh, hang on, that was my teenage years…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 18, 2023 2:54 pm

Sydney uni in the early 80’s was good. Good bars, and the different societies used to run good parties.

My first Guinness was a can I bought at a Geological Society do for maybe 15 cents.

There was this ongoing civil war between some societies over ownership of acronyms. The Musical Society, the Maths Society, the Medical Society, and doubtless a few smaller ones, were all demanding the right to SUMS. Obviously only the Sydney University Maths Society had a legitimate claim, but I suppose the med students realised they would have trouble with acronyms using things like ‘germ botherers’.

Could have tried ‘Sawbones society’. That would be a bit suss.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 18, 2023 2:54 pm

I can think of one reason the police would love the ” vilify via media, then a fair trial, followed by a first class hanging” mode of justice.

Think of the savings when they no longer have to pay for advertisements to trawl for accusers ( a la Pell)

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 18, 2023 2:56 pm

The huge thrust requiring fuel transfer needed on Concorde to get it aloft has always worried me.
I get it. You’re trolling me.

I’m thinking there’s some flirty talk between Bill and Lizzie. All this talk about huge thrusts and long Concordes and fuel transfers is giving me hot flushes. ?

Cassie of Sydney
September 18, 2023 2:57 pm

It’s a hot day today but I decided to go for a walk at lunchtime and I walked to Chinatown. I decided to catch the bus back and sitting on the bus, in the seats near me were an older couple. I didn’t notice their kiwi accent, but on reaching Martin Place, where the bus stopped, the woman said….”oh look at all those NO banners (Martin Place is full of YES banners flying in the wind). I heard her husband mumble something and then I turned around and I said…..

“I’m voting NO”.

To which she said, thank God. She then went on to talk about how NZ is slowly but surely being destroyed by Maori activism. I told her that was the fault of those kiwis who voted for Saint Jacinda, and she and her hubby readily agreed. I said that I think the referendum will fail, however the indoctrinated young will vote for it in spades, but the people who will save this country this from racist Voice will be rural people, people over fifty, and migrants.

They agreed.

Always nice to meet and speak to people who think like we do!

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 18, 2023 3:00 pm

ALPBC Rural and a few other areas (back in the day maybe) really don’t deserve to be tarred with the same brush. Soon changes when the hit Ultimo, Southbank and the capital cities.

Viva
Viva
September 18, 2023 3:01 pm

I cannot help, because his mantra is always ‘don’t touch my stuff’.

That injunction sounds very familiar. My husband also goes one further instructing “Don’t initiate anything “ lol

Robert Sewell
September 18, 2023 3:04 pm

Boambee John

Sep 18, 2023 11:31 AM
The Italicised para, Johanna’s comment, is a good summary of the reasons for the utter failure of indigenous policy over almost half a century. And that failure comes from the complete inability of the urban fauxboriginal activists to understand the culture that they extol so loudly.

I’m waiting for the equivalent of the reply to the PNG Parliament in the ’70’s “Australia will tear the child from its mothers breast”.
“Mother decides when its time to wean, not the child.”

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 3:27 pm

“They’re white!”

Welcome to the party.

Bee Gees – Stayin’ Alive FIRST TIME HEARING THIS!!

Speedbox
September 18, 2023 3:29 pm

OldOzzie
Sep 18, 2023 2:33 PM
Even the staunchest Western war enthusiasts from the NATO-aligned Atlantic Council to the Estonian defense minister to Biden’s own Secretary of State Antony Blinken all previously acknowledged that threatening Crimea is a possible “red line” that could lead to nuclear war.

Indeed. Russia can match the NATO armaments kg for kg. In other words, a 500kg bomb strike on Sevastopol can be matched by a identical sized bomb on Kyiv. Cluster munitions in a city? Ok. Cluster incendiary bombs? Sure. Hypersonic missile anyone?

Just to be clear on the destructive capabilities, a 600kg cruise missile on an modern urban centre like Kyiv or Lviv could easily result in 5,000+ casualties. And that’s just the beginning. An Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM) doesn’t have to be fitted with a nuclear warhead. Instead, 2000kg of high explosive could kill/injure large numbers and causing fires across many city blocks .

See where I’m going here? The risk of escalation is very real and no good will come of it. Even without resorting to nuclear armed weapons, providing Ukraine with larger and more powerful missiles that can strike deep inside Russian territory is simply inviting a like-for-like response. I understand Zelensky’s guttural instinct to strike inside Russia but this needs to be tempered with the realisation that her cannot win by escalation.

Perhaps he senses he cannot win at all so it has become a ‘take you with me to Hell’ scenario.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 3:30 pm

No, it wasn’t, and no, it didn’t. It included the video where Stoltenberg references the further negotiating demand.

Both you and the faker you linked to avoided any reference to the additional ransom demands.

The only enduring quality of NATO is the projection of US interests beyond the North Atlantic.

You can leave NATO like the French did in the mid-60s. You can join NATO after all the members accept accession. You can even stop it in its tracks with anything NATO proposes, even by the smallest member. There will be no blowback. Try that within the remaining skeleton of the Soviet Union. The leader will commit suicide from a hotel block, and the state will be invaded.

Both (i) Ukrainian neutrality and (ii) partial or full removal of US bases/ assets from post-1997 NATO expansion countries most definitely is within the ambit of NATO enlargement.

Yes, it is, but in that comment, only Ukraine was discussed as though it were the only demand. It wasn’t, and you don’t appear to accept this.

You’re just confirming that conclusion is entirely hypothetical.

Of course, the “hypothetical” is constrained by the rest of those unmentioned demands.

This is the silliest talking point. Rather than contradicting the argument that ‘NATO enlargement’ is behind the conflict, it buttresses it.

It’s not a silly point to make the observation that even now Ukraine has no membership in NATO or the EU. It’s not silly because you suggest it is.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 18, 2023 3:40 pm

Real Deal
Sep 18, 2023 1:26 PM
IIRC, the Religion report was essentially focused on Christianity?

It was back in the day, BJ. I used to listen to RN back in the late 80s to mid 90s on Sunday nights. The religious program was called Insight and was hosted by (now) ex priest Paul Collins and later Rachel Kohn. Rachel is Jewish and interestingly enough, I think she did her PhD under E.P. Sanders, the New Testament scholar at Oxford (I think). I guess all things religious on the ABC has probably moved into a more multifaith direction.

I suspect that Their ABC’s “multifaith direction” is their modern standard of “Anything But Christianity”.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 3:42 pm

I’m just astonished at who’s coming out of the woodwork for “No”.

Kindly, generous people, the ones who buy trolleys of food, knit beanies, sew blankets, make up toiletries bags for shelters and other charitable outlets…all being branded as racist and stupid. All because they don’t want to see this country further divided down racial lines – and believe me they have witnessed the divisions and it isn’t always what the black armband types portray it to be.

They’ve seen “tick the box get preference” dozens of times, for people by and large just like them.

These clowns have pushed a good many people way too far.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 18, 2023 3:44 pm

Steve trickler Sep 18, 2023 2:41 PM
Excellent. Give this lady a medal.
Mother walks into classroom and tears down pride flag

The original Tik Tok says it is a scripted skit using actors on a film set.

Kneel
Kneel
September 18, 2023 3:45 pm

“Overlaying it with guilt and lies about ‘da Environment’ is another thing entirely.”

Interesting factoids re: “eat the bugs”:
1) if you grow bugs for human consumption, you have to feed them human grade food (no rotting veggies etc).
2) bugs and pigs are “on par” in terms of turning grain into protein, and chickens are slightly better at it.

So let the bugs eat the garbage, then let the chickens eat the bugs, then eat the chicken. It’s win-win!

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 18, 2023 3:45 pm

Real Deal

Or even “Anything But Christianity or Judaism”.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 3:48 pm

The “Modest Proposal” that is so “modest” no one can be bothered explaining the details or the PM be bothered to read it. Or so he says.

And if you ask – Racist! and Shut Up!

Yeah…nah. I’ve seen these tactics before. No dice.

Pogria
Pogria
September 18, 2023 3:50 pm

Daily Mail has a great article on thousands of YES marchers ignoring a homeless indigene on the street as they “marched” past. Seriously can’t make up this stuff. 😀

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 3:53 pm

My dad just watched the clips of the steel columns getting fried in NYC on 911. He is rattled. He had no idea such tech existed. He does now!

People continue to bury their head in the sand.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 3:55 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 18, 2023 3:44 PM
Steve trickler Sep 18, 2023 2:41 PM
Excellent. Give this lady a medal.
Mother walks into classroom and tears down pride flag

The original Tik Tok says it is a scripted skit using actors on a film set.

You got proof of that?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 18, 2023 3:57 pm

The original Tik Tok says it is a scripted skit using actors on a film set.

You got proof of that?

The use of adult film stars was the giveaway.

Dot
Dot
September 18, 2023 3:58 pm

Am I being cynical if the thought of “land rent” reminds me of this?

The N-Word Pass®

SkyCorp Home Video

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 3:59 pm

It’s not silly because I say it is, its silly because it’s silly. Stoltenberg, for instance, says that all NATO members are agreed that Ukraine will join NATO, just not yet. I wonder what your claim means given this statement?

Statements like that have been made since at least 2008. I’d have to check if they were also made before. My claim is that it’s a diplomatic way of saying bugger off.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 4:00 pm

But more importantly, this has to be bullshit… I hope.

?? Kyle Bass ??
@Jkylebass
From an Intel friend of mine : just heard chatter that Russia is going to trade China and NK troops to fight in Ukraine for food. Reliable source. If true; WWIII has already begun. #China #Russia #NK #WWIII

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 4:01 pm

feelthebern
Sep 18, 2023 3:57 PM
The original Tik Tok says it is a scripted skit using actors on a film set.

You got proof of that?

The use of adult film stars was the giveaway.

If it’s garbage I’ll suck my toes. As it stands, you have offered nothing to suggest otherwise.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 4:03 pm

On second thoughts, I reckon it’s bullshit.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 18, 2023 4:07 pm

Kyle Bass made a killing during the GFC.
Has been wrong ever since.

Robert Sewell
September 18, 2023 4:08 pm

“Australia will tear the child from its mothers breast”.
“Mother decides when its time to wean, not the child.”

2 upticks
9 downticks!
Can I suggest that the 9 are all babies who refuse to be weaned?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 4:09 pm

I am surprised this fat bitch is not dead yet.

What is she going do next, give dietary advice?

Rukshan:

Magda Szubansk has asked for info on No voters to be compiled. What for exactly we are not sure?

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 4:09 pm

LOL Bern

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 4:15 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 18, 2023 3:44 PM
Steve trickler Sep 18, 2023 2:41 PM
Excellent. Give this lady a medal.
Mother walks into classroom and tears down pride flag

The original Tik Tok says it is a scripted skit using actors on a film set.

Proof, sunshine. Who said so? Let’s delve into it.

If I am wrong, I am wrong. NO prizes awarded.

Robert Sewell
September 18, 2023 4:15 pm

Kneel

Sep 18, 2023 3:45 PM
So let the bugs eat the garbage, then let the chickens eat the bugs, then eat the chicken. It’s win-win!

Efficiency has nothing to do with it – compliance with a ridiculous goal is.

The aim of most Socialist Rules isn’t about fairness, it’s about humiliating the masses by making them parrot stupidity.

Dot
Dot
September 18, 2023 4:17 pm

Steve

What we need is you anal-ysing the Lauren Boebert “over animated enthusiastic movie goer” drama.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 4:19 pm

Dot
Sep 18, 2023 4:17 PM
Steve

What we need is you anal-ysing the Lauren Boebert “over animated enthusiastic movie goer” drama.

Who is Lauren Boebert?

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 4:22 pm

Lol. Bush Jr invites them to join in 2008 only to diplomatically tell them to bugger off later by saying “All NATO allies have agreed that Ukraine will become a NATO member”? Sort of like saying, Yes means no.

For lord’s sake, if there was a unanimous decision the accession would have occurred because unlike Russia and it’s satellites, NATO operates through unanimity. You appear to be stuck on first base with no ability to move beyond. 15 years have passed since 2008 and Ukraine is not a member.

How do you know that they weren’t just playing political games with the US pretending to take Ukraine’s application seriously, while another NATO member nixed it in the bud. It’s not like these sorts of things haven’t happened before. The fact is that Ukraine didn’t succeed and still isn’t a member.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 18, 2023 4:25 pm

Anthony Albanese’s latest Instagram post about The Voice backfires: ‘Help sort cost of living and inflation’

– PM attended Yes campaign event on Saturday
– Social media flooded by apparent No voters

A post promoting the Yes campaign on Anthony Albanese’s Instagram page was flooded by apparent ‘No’ voters outlining their opposition to the Voice and asking him to work on sorting the soaring cost-of-living instead.

But hundreds of No voters commented underneath the post, outlining their opposition to the official Labor party policy in support of the Voice to parliament.

‘An undivided country and equality for all Australians is the right and decent thing to do,’ wrote one.

‘There should not be different rules for anyone. Vote No.’

Many apparent No voters were keen to insist that their position was not racist.

‘There is absolutely no shame in voting NO,’ wrote one.

‘No racism, no bigotry, and no stupidity! I’m proud to be a NO voter, because it’s the right thing to do for Australia.’

Another said: ‘Vote No to division, vote no to racism, vote no to loss of equality and human rights.

‘We are all humans, we are all equal and we should be the same in the eyes of the law.

They are using your nice and good intentions to promote racial division, and victim hood culture. That’s the worst thing you can do for aboriginal people, the worst thing you can do to non-aboriginal people, the worst you can do for Australia.’

Another asked: ‘Any chance you can walk to Parliament House and help sort cost of living and inflation!?’

cohenite
September 18, 2023 4:25 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 18, 2023 11:33 AM
Prosecutions ‘frequently terminated’ to avoid harming First Nations victims: DPP
Michaela Whitbourn
By Michaela Whitbourn
September 18, 2023 — 5.00am

Listen to this article
6 min

The state’s top prosecutor has warned that the criminal justice system is failing First Nations victims of crime and her office frequently terminates prosecutions involving Indigenous complainants because existing trial processes are not culturally safe.

Isn’t that just great; so some black bastards aren’t prosecuted because they keep their head down, avoid eye contact and say yes as a cultural reflex.

This shithole is stuffed.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 4:26 pm

DR Koncerthuset:

4,500 views Premiered 14 hours ago

“Thor’s Arrival – The Giant’s Theme – The Rainbow Bridge – The Whistling Song” from “Valhalla”

Composed by Ron Goodwin, Bent Hesselmann

Performed by The Danish National Symphony Orchestra, DR Big Band and Danish National Concert Choir Conducted by Christian Schumann.

This performance was a part of the film music concert Cartoons in Concert (Så er der Tegnfilm i Symfonien) broadcasted on The Danish Broadcast Corporation (DR)

Light design: Jonas Bøgh
Director of photography: Karsten Andersen
Sound producers: Lars C Bruun & Ossian Ryner
Executive Producer, idea and concept: Nicolai Abrahamsen

Performed and recorded in DR Koncerthuset All rights reserved DR 2022

Valhalla // Danish National Symphony Orchestra, Concert Choir & DR Big Band (Live)

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 18, 2023 4:27 pm

The use of adult film stars was the giveaway.

“ I ham here to clean ze pool.”

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 4:28 pm

What state, Cronkite?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 18, 2023 4:31 pm

H B Bear
Sep 18, 2023 4:27 PM

The use of adult film stars was the giveaway.

“ I ham here to clean ze pool.”

It looks like your grandfather eating ice cream!

Cassie of Sydney
September 18, 2023 4:33 pm

“People continue to bury their head in the sand.”

Better sand than concrete, which is where your head is stuck.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 4:33 pm

Sounds like a perfectly normal family gathering. Nothing strange about this at all.

Russell Brand had sex with a Filipino prostitute when he was aged 16 while his father slept with two hookers in the same hotel room while on holiday

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12528747/Russell-Brand-holiday-prostitute-father.html

Speedbox
September 18, 2023 4:33 pm

JC
Sep 18, 2023 4:00 PM
But more importantly, this has to be bullshit… I hope.
@Jkylebass
From an Intel friend of mine : just heard chatter that Russia is going to trade China and NK troops to fight in Ukraine for food. Reliable source. If true; WWIII has already begun. #China #Russia #NK #WWIII

Your instincts in your later post are correct. Utter BS.

Separately, NK need Russia a lot more than Russia needs NK. Russia have particularly enticing missile technology, hypersonic data, advanced military aircraft designs (including surveillance and kamikaze drones) and other kit that NK would love to have access to. The Chinese are a source of microchips and other military stuff but even they have a degree of reticence of given NK too much. Putin’s the same – NK will get some data and designs, but not the latest. I will bet my socks that Russia and China will discretely discuss ‘who gives what’ to NK.

Food and energy supplies (to NK) were also recently discussed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 18, 2023 4:35 pm

Can you get humble pie in France or is that something else for QANTAS to stuff up?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 18, 2023 4:37 pm

My dad just watched the clips of the steel columns getting fried in NYC on 911. He is rattled. He had no idea such tech existed. He does now!

People continue to bury their head in the sand.

It was the Nano wrigglers

You know it makes sense

IT’S IN REVELATIONS PEOPLE

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 18, 2023 4:37 pm

Top ‘o the page

to be sure, to be sure

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 4:37 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 18, 2023 4:33 PM
“People continue to bury their head in the sand.”

Better sand than concrete, which is where your head is stuck.

Keep going with you’re MSM consumption.

Cassie of Sydney
September 18, 2023 4:38 pm

“Russell Brand had sex with a Filipino prostitute when he was aged 16 while his father slept with two hookers in the same hotel room while on holiday”

Yukkkkkkk. Brand is a grub, born of a grubby father.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 4:44 pm

Who will be the first in this joint to roll up their sleeve and get the next jab? One name stands out.

F*cking idiots! NO excuses for being ignorant.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 18, 2023 4:45 pm

Brand is a grub, born of a grubby father.

Very much so.
But apart from the under aged allegations, he’s just a grown up grub.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 18, 2023 4:45 pm

Sheep get dipped. No sleeves.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 4:47 pm

Carpe Jugulum
Sep 18, 2023 4:37 PM

My dad just watched the clips of the steel columns getting fried in NYC on 911. He is rattled. He had no idea such tech existed. He does now!

People continue to bury their head in the sand.

It was the Nano wrigglers

You know it makes sense

IT’S IN REVELATIONS PEOPLE

Go back to commentary on Q@A.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 4:47 pm

Dover
Frequently, you mention how the US lords over NATO. If Bush Jr., who was the US president at the time, wanted Ukraine in, then why didn’t it just happen, according to your lording over theory?

So they are unanimously opposed to Ukrainian accession to NATO but they repeatedly say that it will be a member in order for Ukraine to ‘save face’? Sure.

NO FFS. It’s not what I suggested. Accession to NATO has to be unanimous. I wasn’t suggesting there was unanimous opposition. They were gaming because, of course, the US would’ve counted the votes beforehand.

They weren’t saving face; they were likely playing for time. Haven’t you ever procrastinated on making a decision when it was just too hard? This is one possible example.

How do I know? Because they resisted saying No even when faced with imminent war breaking out between Russia and Ukraine. Maybe they weren’t saving face for Ukraine but their own.

You don’t have to cruelly say no. You can also say not just now but some other time in the future. You’re making all these hypothetical speculations and totally ignoring what hasn’t occurred. Ukraine was never accepted as a NATO member.

Dot
Dot
September 18, 2023 4:49 pm

But apart from the under aged allegations

Likely nothing illegal – “under aged”.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 4:50 pm

Brand was 16. A minor. It’s a form of grooming, undertaken by his father.

The introduction of young, inexperienced males to prostitutes by some sleazy “mentor” is nothing new. Some boys just shrug it off as a rite of passage, but for some who are not ready, it has devastating effects. Brand’s own admission of addiction is an indication of that.

In this case, the grubbiness is compounded by the fact that it was done by dad, and was a “group” event. Words fail at the evil some parents inflict on their children.

Vicki
Vicki
September 18, 2023 4:50 pm

Uni is a lot less interactive, by which I mean less social these days. Courses are huge, with many, if not the majority foreign students that nick in and out of classes and then off to their full time job which wa the real aim of the visa.

My grandson dropped out of a Commerce degree at Macquarie Uni a couple of years ago (mid Covid) because 1) the courses were online because of the virus 2) the “vibe” wasn’t too good anyway. The only thing he liked were the $1 beers at a particular bar pre virus.

He then enrolled in (horror of horrors) Enviromental Studies or some such degree at Newcastle University. “But you don’t believe in global warming!” I said, to which this “no frills” kid replied, “Ah, but there will be plenty of jobs”. Anyway, he is in his second year & loves the laid-back, no nonsense fellow travellers there. We are paying his residential fees, so I am happy that he is at least enjoying the sort of uni experience we did in past years.

pete of perth
pete of perth
September 18, 2023 4:52 pm

Back from hols in Sri Lanka. Walking around Galleria shops past the stand giving out “free” RATS tests. Is it time to panic yet? Enjoyed the last 3.5 weeks free from all the crap spewed out by our elites and celebrity class. Sri Lanka’s economic woes

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 4:53 pm

F*cking retards will just walk into the GP for another Jab.

STUPID MSM CONSUMING IDIOTS!

Cassie of Sydney
September 18, 2023 4:53 pm

Several people stabbed at ANU.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 4:55 pm

Thanks Speedbox. The moment after I posted it, I thought it was bullshit and back peddled as fast as I could. 🙂

Speedbox
September 18, 2023 4:56 pm

Bucharest Summit Declaration
Issued by the Heads of State and Government participating in the meeting of the North Atlantic Council in Bucharest on 3 April 2008

23. NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO. Both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations. We welcome the democratic reforms in Ukraine and Georgia and look forward to free and fair parliamentary elections in Georgia in May. MAP is the next step for Ukraine and Georgia on their direct way to membership. Today we make clear that we support these countries’ applications for MAP. Therefore we will now begin a period of intensive engagement with both at a high political level to address the questions still outstanding pertaining to their MAP applications. We have asked Foreign Ministers to make a first assessment of progress at their December 2008 meeting. Foreign Ministers have the authority to decide on the MAP applications of Ukraine and Georgia.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_8443.htm

Not buying into your debate – the text above is weirdly written. It is an acknowledgement of aspiration then, in the very next sentence, says they will become members.

Germany (Merkel) and France (Sarkozy) were utterly opposed to admitting Ukraine. They noted that this was arguably Russia’s primary ‘red line’ and admitting Ukraine, or even progressing their application, whether now or in the future, was sure to cause major issues with Russia. However, Bush pushed it through – which may be why the language of the Declaration is not as clear as it could be.

It is a matter of record that a number of other conditions were placed on Ukraine before their assentation into NATO would be considered further.

Dot
Dot
September 18, 2023 5:00 pm

Perusing 4chan. Remember over 1 million Russians have emigrated to avoid conscription.

ITS OVER: RUSSIA HAS 370K DEAD SOLDIERS Anonymous (ID: hsWpg21S) 09/18/23(Mon)16:52:02 No.441620927 [Reply]?>>441621209

>So Russia has spent $25.6 billion on compensation to families of deceased soldiers and $21 billion on compensation to the wounded. Putin has previously signed a decree earlier in the year ordering the payout of $68,800 to the families of deceased and $41,300 to soldiers that are wounded. Using this we can get a glance at potential Russian casualties assuming zero corruption and money laundering.

>According to the expenditures by the Russian Government they have conducted payouts to the next of kin for 372,093 soldiers killed in action.

>According to expenditures by the Russian government, they have conducted payouts to 508,474 soldiers wounded in action.

>According to Russian expenditures, Russian casualties in the past 18 months are as follows.
>KIA: 372,093
>WIA: 508,474
>Total Casualties: 880,567

https://twitter.com/Schizointel/status/1703189730316132631

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 5:01 pm

Speedbox

My read, and particularly after the time interval is that they were just playing around with no intention of Ukraine accession. Perhaps it was also a veiled threat to Russia of some sort.

Dot
Dot
September 18, 2023 5:01 pm

Ohhh shit!

https://twitter.com/LangmanVince/status/1703129460487180344

Vince Langman
@LangmanVince
This video clip is why Russell Brand is being attacked right now

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 5:05 pm

Anyone that gets a jab for C-19 is a f*cking moron. No have no excuses.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 5:07 pm

Speedbox

What a shitshow.

From your link:

Germany (Merkel) and France (Sarkozy) were utterly opposed to admitting Ukraine.

Why were the Frogs chiming in and allowed to participate? It rejoined a year later it seems.

2009
Since its return to the Integrated Military Command in 2009, and especially since the first Russian invasion of Ukraine, Paris has aimed to change its image within the alliance.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 5:12 pm

Steve trickler
Sep 18, 2023 5:05 PM

Anyone that gets a jab for C-19 is a f*cking moron.

Tickler, I’m seriously thinking of getting one before I depart for the US in just over a month. Wish me luck. Dude, as smoker, I’m not that worried about underlying medical conditions. 🙂

cohenite
September 18, 2023 5:12 pm

What state, Cronkite?

All of them.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 18, 2023 5:14 pm

This one’s for military Cats.

On May 1st, 1945, Marshall Chuikov, whose 8th Guards Army was spearheading the drive into Berlin, received a visit by the German general Krebs, under a white flag, to parley a surrender.

With incredible effrontery, Krebs tried to talk to Chuikov as an equal, opening the conversation with the general comment

“Today is the first of May, a great holiday for our two nations.”

“With seven million Russian dead, half his country devastated, and fresh evidence mounting daily of the unspeakable barbarity with which the germane had treated Soviet captives and civilians, Chuikov’s answer was a model of restraint.”

We have a great holiday today. How things are with you over there, it is less easy to say.”

Alan Clarke, “Barbarossa”, page 462.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 5:14 pm

cohenite
Sep 18, 2023 5:12 PM

What state, Cronkite?

All of them.

Can AG’s fire prosecutors?

Pogria
Pogria
September 18, 2023 5:14 pm

pete of perth
Sep 18, 2023 4:52 PM
Back from hols in Sri Lanka. Walking around Galleria shops past the stand giving out “free” RATS tests. Is it time to panic yet?

I was at the Goulburn Service NSW last week and they had a table piled high with “Free Rat Tests”.
Didn’t see anyone grabbing one on the way out and I was there for 45 minutes.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 18, 2023 5:19 pm

Germans had treated Soviet captives and civilians, F.F.S…

Dot
Dot
September 18, 2023 5:19 pm

Has anyone seen this Nipa virus scare? What else can we be scared of? Is there an election coming up in India or more specifically, Kerela?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 5:21 pm

JC
Sep 18, 2023 5:12 PM
Steve trickler
Sep 18, 2023 5:05 PM

Anyone that gets a jab for C-19 is a f*cking moron.

Tickler, I’m seriously thinking of getting one before I depart for the US in just over a month. Wish me luck. Dude, as smoker, I’m not that worried about underlying medical conditions. ?

You’ll be fine. Nicotine is your friend.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 18, 2023 5:23 pm

IT’S IN REVELATIONS PEOPLE

‘Yeah, plus – rocks are Bible trees!’

Aaaaahahahaaa.

In all seriousness though, it does look like critical levels of wompus are being reached.

Speedbox
September 18, 2023 5:24 pm

Agreed JC. France had decided to re-join and it was Sarkozy who formally accepted re-entry at the Strasbourg Summit in 2009.

However, France has continued to contribute to NATO even in their ‘off’ years. They took part in the NATO crisis management operations from 1993 – 2004 in Bosnia, the NATO campaign in Kosovo and in fact were the NATO Kosovo command on three occasions in that period.

France was in Afghanistan from 2001 with the International Security Force which was under NATO command in 2003.

So, they were kinda in and out simultaneously. Weird huh. But they rolled over on Ukraine (as did Germany) – both were totally opposed but somehow Bush got it through. (who knows what promises/threats were made).

Pogria
Pogria
September 18, 2023 5:24 pm

It’s all over for the NO vote. Our Lord on High, Geoffrey Robertson has spoken;

‘Yes’ supporter Geoffrey Robertson claims Australia won’t be able to criticise China if ‘No’ vote wins – and says ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs hahahahaha, almost peed my pants! 😀

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 18, 2023 5:26 pm

How can the No vote be split ?
It’s either Yes.
or No.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 18, 2023 5:27 pm

Chris Bowen has targeted Peter Dutton’s pro-nuclear agenda, releasing new estimates that converting coal-fired power stations to 71 reactors would cost $387bn.

The obvious retort is, “Well, it probably would cost that much if they were built by Labor maaates of Bowen, Andrews and Luigi. However, we would engage professional and efficient engineers and builders”.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 18, 2023 5:29 pm

“Yes’ supporter Geoffrey Robertson claims Australia won’t be able to criticise China if ‘No’ vote wins

Here you go Geoff old chap….condescend to do a 30 second search of the Internet to see how the Chunk government match up with good old Orstralia:

Government policies have included the arbitrary detention of Uyghurs in state-sponsored internment camps, forced labor, suppression of Uyghur religious practices, political indoctrination, severe ill-treatment, forced sterilization, forced contraception, and forced abortion.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 5:29 pm

Our Lord on High, Geoffrey Robertson

Chuckle.

The Lord High Elocutioner.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 18, 2023 5:35 pm

A little gripe, not so much about Japan, but about Google maps.
We have a 21 day JR pass, primarily for inter-city travel, but it also works on the JR Tokyo suburban network. There are other non-JR subway options as well. When I search for directions on Google it almost never shows a route using JR trains. It’s not the miserable 200-400 yen per trip vs a free pass. It’s the fact that the JR option is often the quickest and easiest, but it is buried under 5-6 other less attractive options. No doubt JR aren’t paying enough Google shakedown advertising money.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 18, 2023 5:36 pm

“Yes’ supporter Geoffrey Robertson claims Australia won’t be able to criticise China if ‘No’ vote wins

Hard to keep ones finger on the pulse of Australia from Knightsbridge.
Or is it Holland Park?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 5:36 pm

Cool calm and collected.

Royal Australian Air Force
303K subscribers

EA-18G Growler Display | Riverfire Brisbane

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 18, 2023 5:36 pm

“‘Yes’ supporter Geoffrey Robertson claims Australia won’t be able to criticise China if ‘No’ vote wins

Like we are doing shitloads of criticism now anyway.
And, yes we will.

– and says ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs

And …

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 18, 2023 5:37 pm

Has anyone seen this Nipa virus scare?

How many scares do you want Dot? There’s the Nipa virus, the RSV, the flu, the new covid strain called Pirola (which sounds like a laxative). Then there was the Ebola going around Burning Man a couple weeks ago.

CDC: Gear Up for Winter — COVID, Flu, RSV on Their Way (15 Sep)

Pirola Covid strain: What are the symptoms of the new variant? (15 Sep)

The main symptoms of potential sufferers run around in circles screeching and have a terrifying urge to wear masks. At least monkeypox seems to’ve wandered off, maybe because the special people suffering from it didn’t like the media coverage.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 5:37 pm

Bowen is up in the Bay tomorrow, meeting a community group of 10 people over the windfarms. Plus the local member for Red Jackets.

Unfortunately I am otherwise engaged – x-rays and an appointment with the sawbones re my new Terminator Class knee.

Otherwise, I’d give them all a good hard kick. With the good leg, natch.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 18, 2023 5:37 pm

Our Lord on High, Geoffrey Robertson

I watched Geoffrey Robertson trying to patronize a guest on “Hypotheticals.”

Enoch Powell ate his lunch for him!

Roger
Roger
September 18, 2023 5:39 pm

“‘Yes’ supporter Geoffrey Robertson claims Australia won’t be able to criticise China if ‘No’ vote wins – and says ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs

News flash, Geoff – Australians are over the cultural cringe.

Speedbox
September 18, 2023 5:40 pm

JC
Sep 18, 2023 5:01 PM
Speedbox
My read, and particularly after the time interval is that they were just playing around with no intention of Ukraine accession. Perhaps it was also a veiled threat to Russia of some sort.

Didn’t see this earlier comment.

Maybe. Everybody and their black dog knew that inviting Ukraine into NATO was a red line* for Russia – this was never going to fly. Yet, prodding the bear with something you know isn’t viable is a fairly risky strategy. Not to mention pointless. Or stupid.

* Imagine the Crimea port of Sevastopol becoming a NATO port!!!! That would give NATO control of the Black Sea and deny Russia’s navy access to its primary warm water port. All shipping through the Black Sea would be under NATO observation….. there is no way, none, that Russia would stand for that. And you can bet your socks that NATO would construct their largest military base just a few kilometres over the Ukraine border with hundreds of missiles pointed eastward and 50,000 troops. Never going to happen.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 5:46 pm

I wonder, when the first pod of whales beaches itself off Fingal, whether Bowen, Washington and Swanson will race up here for a Tripodi Pasha Bulka photo op by the rotting corpses?

Environmentalists that they are.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 18, 2023 5:52 pm

Roger
Sep 18, 2023 5:39 PM
“‘Yes’ supporter Geoffrey Robertson claims Australia won’t be able to criticise China if ‘No’ vote wins – and says ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs

News flash, Geoff – Australians are over the cultural cringe.

Not quite.

Those on the left who screeched the loudest about the “cultural cringe” in earlier years are now, like Robertson, fully on board with it. It is part of the “Great Reversal”, in which leftards have become supporters of Big Banks, Big Business, Big Immigration, and Big Cringe, abandoning their previous electoral base in favour of the groups they once claimed to despise.

pete of perth
pete of perth
September 18, 2023 5:52 pm

SL has much povety and corruption (government). I Hope they eventually sort themselves out.

Roger
Roger
September 18, 2023 5:54 pm

Not quite.

Those on the left who screeched the loudest about the “cultural cringe” in earlier years are now, like Robertson, fully on board with it.

A noisy minority of questionable international loyalties.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 18, 2023 5:55 pm

News flash, Geoff – Australians are over the cultural cringe.

Some people make it their life’s work.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 18, 2023 5:55 pm

“‘Yes’ supporter Geoffrey Robertson claims Australia won’t be able to criticise China if ‘No’ vote wins

LOL, because we keep Aboriginal people in slave labour camps and break them up for spare parts. Sheesh. Amusing that a guy who fought against apartheid in the seventies is now advocating for apartheid fifty years later.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 18, 2023 5:55 pm

Commenter, over on Bolta, preaching the old malarkey about poisoned waterholes….Words fail me, they honestly do.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 6:00 pm

“‘Yes’ supporter Geoffrey Robertson claims Australia won’t be able to criticise China if ‘No’ vote wins

Thus proving that those who are told they are clever just might not be. It’s a Mystery.

In other knee news, and to encourage those here who are contemplating surgery…walked 2 x 1.2kms today. One month out from the angle grinder. Prepare for the chop and don’t dilly dally. The post-op pain is horrid but short-lived.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 18, 2023 6:00 pm

Tasmanian wind farms and transmission lines have killed or injured 321 threatened eagles in 12 years, but the real figure is likely far higher, a new study finds.

The peer reviewed study, published in Australian Field Ornithology, uses data from wind farms, TasNetworks and eagle rescuers to identify the death or injury of 272 endangered Tasmanian wedge-tailed eagles and 49 vulnerable white-bellied sea eagles.

It found that from 2010 to 2022, 268 eagles were recorded killed and 53 injured by wind and transmission energy infrastructure, with the state’s four wind farms reporting 38 deaths, TasNetworks 139 deaths and raptor rescuers 91 deaths.

Oz

The Wilderness Society and the Greens are not returning calls?

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
September 18, 2023 6:04 pm

But only a few seem to have any skill in ‘using’ experts, knowing what questions to ask, having a sense of when they are being misled or deceived, knowing how to use two experts’ working off and against each other, and being able to sniff out someone with an agenda.

This is essential, but one in which almost all modern politicians are incapable of. If an expert thinks you’re clueless, they will likely take advantage of you, and then everyone with an agenda will. Scepticism is healthy because it keeps people honest, or at least limits their dishonest adventurism. Naive people will be lied to for fun. From my own experience, it’s hard to resist.

Roger
Roger
September 18, 2023 6:09 pm

ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs

As with Marcia and no more welcomes to country, Geoff has failed to read the room.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 6:10 pm

ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs

You have to wonder at the mindset of someone who thinks this is a problem.

Crossie
Crossie
September 18, 2023 6:14 pm

Pogria
Sep 18, 2023 5:24 PM
It’s all over for the NO vote. Our Lord on High, Geoffrey Robertson has spoken;

“‘Yes’ supporter Geoffrey Robertson claims Australia won’t be able to criticise China if ‘No’ vote wins – and says ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs hahahahaha, almost peed my pants!

Ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs? It would be worthwhile voting NO just for that alone.

Pogria
Pogria
September 18, 2023 6:18 pm

Absolutely Crossie, and I’d add Calli’s comment to that.

Robert Sewell
September 18, 2023 6:19 pm

– and says ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs

C/f=0

Cassie of Sydney
September 18, 2023 6:28 pm

“In this case, the grubbiness is compounded by the fact that it was done by dad, and was a “group” event. Words fail at the evil some parents inflict on their children.”

Indeed, I’d love to read/hear Theodore Dalrymple’s take on the Russell Brand allegations. Dalrymple would probably say, “why is anyone surprised”. Brand is the epitome of repulsive crass British culture. He’s a boy from Essex, of a dismal culture that began in the 1970s and 1980s, a culture in which boys and girls are encouraged to be promiscuous. Ahh…but apparently that’s freedom. It’s long been a recipe for disaster, a crass media culture, combined with the collapse of religion and family units have led to this scenario. Brand comes from the same cultural sewer that produced the grotesque Jimmy Saville (and others). For the last sixty years, the UK slowly has slowly but surely descended into a complete dystopian sewer where the crass, the coarse, the asinine, the vulgar and the promiscuous are celebrated. Unsavoury males like Saville and Brand have not just been allowed to run amok, their antics have been lauded and celebrated, and they’ve been paid big bucks for their drivel.

I maintain Brand has become a target due to his ideological shifts. I’m not yet ready to put Brand, a most repugnant individual, in the same category as Saville, a pedophile who even violated female corpses in morgues for his sexual pleasure. I doubt Brand has ever had to prey on young women, they’ve thrown themselves at him because that’s the culture they group up in, these young women have been encouraged to be promiscuous, to f*ck men, except none of this f*cking has ever made them happy, instead it leaves them empty and soulless, and then they wonder why these men aren’t interested in them. You see, women can’t have it all, but that’s the lie of the sexual revolution. I maintain that the sexual revolution has given women very little, in fact I maintain it’s made many women very unhappy.

We now live in a pornographic age, it’s like visiting a lolly shop, and Russell Brand, a very revolting celebrity opportunist, simply partook of all those lollies.

So, yes Brand’s a grub, a narcissist, a user and abuser but has he committed any crime? We’ll see.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 18, 2023 6:31 pm

Kamahl no fan of the ABC over Yes ‘favouritism’

Legendary singer Kamahl is no fan of the ABC and he reckons the public broadcaster is favouring the Yes camp in the upcoming referendum.

The Malaysian-born singer has told Diary “it’s not cricket” for the ABC to have given video and audio content for the Yes campaign’s John Farnham You’re the Voice television ad.

“If it is favouring one side and not the other, it’s not cricket,” he said.

“It should be 50/50.

“I’m surprised that John personally allowed the song to be involved.”

The ABC has since said it should not have provided the content but that it can’t do anything about it due to the “relevant contract” preventing the licence agreement from being terminated.

Kamahl certainly has had his grievances with the public broadcaster.

In February, The Australian revealed that the ABC was forced to issue three letters of apology to the singer after broadcaster Phillip Adams labelled him an “honorary white” in December.

Kamahl’s Voice stance is loud and clear: he posted last week on X, formerly Twitter, that he would be voting No in the upcoming referendum. He even amended lyrics to Farnham’s hit single that explain that he doesn’t understand the proposal.

“What’s the voice, I don’t understand it,” Kamahl posted on X.

“It’s just noise and it’s not clear.

“Vote no-o-oh-o-oh-o-o-o.

“We’re not going to vote apartheid.

“We don’t want one race privilege.

“Vote no-o-oh-o-oh-o-o-o.”

The legendary singer has since been doing his homework and posted a comment about an article that caught his eye.

Written by Michael Yabsley, a former minister in the NSW Greiner government and federal treasurer of the Liberal Party, it helped Kamahl to come to a decision to vote No.

Mr Yabsley’s piece, “Why the referendum should be cancelled”, was published in The Sydney Morning Herald on Thursday.

Mr Yabsley wrote: “The Voice referendum is a gift that should have been taken back. It was a dud gift. A poisoned chalice.”

This resonated with Kamahl who posted on X: “I believe I have a better understanding now as to why I voted NO in the Referendum.”

And Kamahl isn’t the least bit impressed with the former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who said in 2017 the Voice to Parliament body “would be seen as a third chamber of parliament” but is now a staunch supporter.

Turnbull posted a photo on social media of himself alongside wife Lucy, teal independent and Wentworth MP Allegra Spender and Minister for Environment and Water Tanya Plibersek, all wearing Yes T-shirts while campaigning in Sydney.

Kamahl replied to a picture of the foursome and wrote: “What a pathetic quartet, with a YES instead of a NO. When will we ever learn the truth? #VoteNoAustralia @officialKamahl”.

I like the boy!

Roger
Roger
September 18, 2023 6:34 pm

The Australian revealed that the ABC was forced to issue three letters of apology to the singer after broadcaster Phillip Adams labelled him an “honorary white” in December.

You’re all class, Phillip.

God forbid that a coloured person should fail to tug their forelock before their white prog-left betters.

calli
calli
September 18, 2023 6:38 pm

Cassie, the sexual act debased to a bodily function, like going to the toilet. They are the Beloved’s words, not mine.

Believe it or not, some men still have an elevated view of sexual congress.

No wonder we have a case before the courts – a Tinder “date” where, wonder of wonders, a sportsman didn’t use a condom. The woman behaves like an unpaid prostitute and wonders at his “disrespect”.

Seriously.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 18, 2023 6:39 pm

broadcaster Phillip Adams labelled him an “honorary white” in December.

Sounds like something out of Seff Effrica in the bad old days.

Lee
Lee
September 18, 2023 6:40 pm

Ex-politicians will struggle to get high-profile overseas jobs? It would be worthwhile voting NO just for that alone.

Boo hoo.

I suggest they get a job as dunny cleaner for the local council.

miltonf
miltonf
September 18, 2023 6:41 pm

I maintain that the sexual revolution has given women very little, in fact I maintain it’s made many women very unhappy.

Yes Christine Keeler said as much a few years ago. Great analysis as usual Cassie.

Indolent
Indolent
September 18, 2023 6:45 pm
miltonf
miltonf
September 18, 2023 6:45 pm

So Anal/Blubbersck and their pubic serpent pals in canbra have added fishing/aquaculture to their attacks on productive Australians.

miltonf
miltonf
September 18, 2023 6:46 pm

I really wonder about what the pill is doing and has done to women’s body chemistry.

Roger
Roger
September 18, 2023 6:48 pm

So Anal/Blubbersck and their pubic serpent pals in canbra have added fishing/aquaculture to their attacks on productive Australians.

On the bright side, their electoral prospects in QLD just sank.

Cassie of Sydney
September 18, 2023 6:48 pm

“Cassie, the sexual act debased to a bodily function, like going to the toilet. They are the Beloved’s words, not mine.”

The Beloved is right. The sexual act is meant to be a spiritual act, sure it’s one that gives us enormous pleasure (when it’s good and that’s not always the case), but spiritual nonetheless. I remember a rabbi saying that when a husband and wife have sex, God is present in the room, and he blesses the act. I like that.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 18, 2023 6:50 pm

Tasmanian wind farms and transmission lines have killed or injured 321 threatened eagles in 12 years, but the real figure is likely far higher, a new study finds.

Eagles had it coming.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 18, 2023 6:51 pm
Gabor
Gabor
September 18, 2023 6:52 pm

Steve trickler
Sep 18, 2023 4:26 PM

DR Koncerthuset:

Thank you Steve, stick to stuff like this.

MatrixTransform
September 18, 2023 6:55 pm

Brand’s a grub, a narcissist, a user and abuser but has he committed any crime? We’ll see.

has he been charge with anything?

miltonf
miltonf
September 18, 2023 6:57 pm

I was thinking about that broadcast by the old thief with the red lighting and it occurred to me that US is essentially a dictatorship now.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 7:02 pm

“A per capita recession caused by net zero policies…” – Senate 11.09.23

There’s no such thing as a per capita recession. Every time a person dies or a kid is born GDP goes up or goes down.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 18, 2023 7:10 pm

JC

But you could calculate it per person couldn’t you?
Just to see if adding more numbers of migrants was to the (average) detriment of those already here.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 7:11 pm

Gabor
Sep 18, 2023 6:52 PM
Steve trickler
Sep 18, 2023 4:26 PM

DR Koncerthuset:

Thank you Steve, stick to stuff like this.

You now know about the channel. You have hours of fun ahead of you. ( :

miltonf
miltonf
September 18, 2023 7:18 pm

The Ukraine is now a DNC outpost/colony in Eastern Europe

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 18, 2023 7:22 pm

Steve trickler
Sep 18, 2023 4:47 PM

Go back to commentary on Q@A.

Well Hi Steve

So tell me which part of ‘Go eat the crutch from a dead Leper’ isn’t clear to you, our resident slack jawed yokel.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 7:23 pm

I remember this clip at 12k views. Now it is up to 124 million.

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly – The Danish National Symphony Orchestra (Live)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 7:25 pm

Carpe Jugulum
Sep 18, 2023 7:22 PM

All good. Just taking the piss.

Cassie of Sydney
September 18, 2023 7:28 pm

Dribbler Sheridan dribbling. He really is an embarrassment.

JC
JC
September 18, 2023 7:29 pm

JC

But you could calculate it per person couldn’t you?
Just to see if adding more numbers of migrants was to the (average) detriment of those already here.

Mole

It’s an after the fact. You can calculate GDP per capita with by using an estimate for the population. However that’s never really used to determine if there’s a recession as it can’t ever be precise and we determine recessions with small wiggles in GDP. There’s either a recession or there isn’t but not a recession based on per capita.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 18, 2023 7:31 pm

Hard to keep ones finger on the pulse of Australia from Knightsbridge.
Or is it Holland Park?

Hard to take anyone’s pulse with your thumb up your butt.

I read that he got the idea for his ‘Hypotheticals’ from…John HoWARd.

Geoff apparently saw Howard in the library, mid-term, frantically working away at a desk with any number of legal tomes open in front of him. Geoff asked what he was doing and HoWARd breathlessly, scarce looking up, said something along the lines that he was busy doing a hypothetical. Just adding more and more complications as he went.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 18, 2023 7:31 pm

Bob Carr had reservations about the ‘Voice” until he saw a film, featuring a frontier massacre…..

Indolent
Indolent
September 18, 2023 7:36 pm

Blackrock Rules The World. Politicians Are Peasants.

I believe Vanguard holds the controlling interest in Blackrock.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 18, 2023 7:41 pm

17 million views in 2 months.

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