Open Thread – Wed 20 Sept 2023


Still Life with Bouquet, August Renoir, 1871

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  1. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    A small anecdote.

    My elderly mother subscribes to the Tele. She is a righty. It infuriates her but she hates technology and won’t use a laptop. She wants a newspaper to read. Thus the Tele. She can’t abide the SMH or the Oz which are the only other ones, so the Tele is the only way she can get any news at all.

    Recently she had the idea of checking out what was on TV, so she asked my stepbrother, who lives nearby, to get her TV working again. She hadn’t used it for years. He did so.

    One evening it lasted, then OFF! My mum could not stand the endless lefty rubbish. Hasn’t watched it since, instead has been reading novels. Fortunately she has a whole houseful of them.

    She’s not as righty as I am, for example she can’t stand Donald Trump. But the menu available these days is so wretched that fiction is more palatable.

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  2. Morsie Avatar
    Morsie

    Regarding the hard men in Townsville I seem to remember on Michael Smith’s blog years ago photos of so called Iranian refugees arriving on TI.
    All the men were young and huge.They all looked like military.

  3. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree about the Murdochs Cassie. I concede the Oz and Hun do have some excellent writers still like Terry McCrann and Janet Albrechtsen. My view is the Murdochs are Bush -Washington War Machine globalists.

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  4. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    JC
    Sep 22, 2023 8:55 PM
    B John

    The hacking occurred inside the ATO system. This is what I find serious. It wasn’t through either her computer nor the accountants.

    I understood that, but the key point is that someone in the ATO system committed an act of fraud, and she needs to keep the pressure on the ATO to have the guilty one dragged before the courts. The ATO has, of course, had another recent issue with a bloke using insider knowledge (his old man is/was a senior ATO officer). If the ATO tries to bury this incident, the Office looks corrupt at its core, keep the pressure up until they fold.

  5. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Pro Publica drops another story on Clarence Thomas.

  6. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Greater Western Sydney Homos have been all over, and I mean all over the Pies for most of three quarters.

    Goal to Bobby Hill though, bringing the margin back to 11 points.

    Really, really hoping the Oxford Street flamers get gassed, and quick.

    97000+ at the G. Magnificent.

  7. Rosie Avatar
    Rosie

    I linked an article that said the ATO has likely lost over half a billion through fake myGov accounts being linked to genuine ATO tax file numbers, thanks to data harvested through the Medicare and Optus hacks.
    So it’s poor security in the ATO at the mygov level rather than people accessing ATO data directly.

  8. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Isaac Quaynor glorious in defence.

  9. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    I was going to do a concise summary of why the screech will be profoundly different from any other section of the Constitution and be able to dictate to parliament but I think this sums up the Zeitgeist better:

    https://www.tiktok.com/@adventureswithkt/video/7134396437068172590?lang=en

  10. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Isn’t Collingwood meant to be good?

  11. Lee Avatar

    You couldn’t defend that sovereignty – you were conquered as totally as few races have ever been…

    Pre-1788 Australia was a continent of at least 500 tribes.

    To describe Australia as “sovereign” or as a “nation” before then denies the true meaning of those words.

  12. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    Morsie

    Na not like that. These guys were slight of stature, dressed unassuming but had the hard look I’ve only seen in the more rougher areas of the third world.

    My hope at the end of the day is they do well and prosper but this mob had a different look to what I’ve seen in the past.

    I’ll leave it that.

  13. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Ian Kershaw’s two volume biography of Hitler shows up the same revelation: that everyone in power once Hitler got in permanently – and those who wanted to join in – went along with the whole Holocaust idea.

    One of the main points I get from KL is that the Holocaust was just an extension to a system that was up & running within 3 months of the Nazis gaining power in 1933 .. the frightening fact is the entire camp system was on the agenda long before they took control .. between 1934 & 1938, believe it or not, most Jews (not all) imprisoned were, actually, released on the provisio they emigrate (after suitable fees extracted) .. it wasn’t until 1939 that ceased and not until after Wannsee that the Jews became the prime target for the camps ( between 1939-42 the Einzatsgruppen were operating).. up to 1940 it was other Germans, communists, criminals ( a catch-all definition used to cover anyone it suited ) anyone not Nazi politically even being unemployed was enuf to get you arrested .. between 1939-1942 the Poles were the the main victims followed by the other conquered territories .. until late 1942 gassing wasn’t widespread .. most deaths occurred thru being worked to death thru slave labour conditions, daily brutality/disease and starvation …..

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  14. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    Punish him for wrongthink. As a warning to others.

    Which particular bit of wrongthink started the process? Who exactly felt got at? I can’t believe it was the baroness, so who initiated this cancellation? And how did they get her to do it?

  15. JC Avatar
    JC

    B John

    The poor kid works 30 hours a day.

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  16. Rosie Avatar
    Rosie

    Gassing was introduced because killing by hand was too slow and causing mental health issues for the Einzatsgruppen.
    the final solution

  17. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “up to 1940 it was other Germans, communists, criminals ( a catch-all definition used to cover anyone it suited ) anyone not Nazi politically even being unemployed was enuf to get you arrested .. between 1939-1942 the Poles were the the main victims followed by the other conquered territories .. until late 1942 gassing wasn’t widespread .. most deaths occurred thru being worked to death thru slave labour conditions, daily brutality/disease and starvation …..”

    Wrong, the focus of the Germans, beginning on 1 September 1939 with the invasion of Poland, was the elimination of Jews. Until the death camps were set up, Jews were routinely herded into ghettoes, shot dead, buried alive, and set fire to in homes and synagogues. The Germans found all of this inefficient, hence the construction of gas chambers, which was to quicken the process of eliminating Europe’s Jews, but it was also easier.

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  18. JC Avatar
    JC

    Rosie

    Did the article suggest the hacking is an inside job? Kind of sounds like it when you think about it. I’m not sure an outside hacker can surf around the ATO site causally looking for refunds. More than likely it’s an internal issue.

    The mystery to me is that the funds are traceable to the last account unless it’s some third world slop hole.

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  19. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Rosie
    Sep 22, 2023 9:50 PM
    Gassing was introduced because killing by hand was too slow and causing mental health issues for the Einzatsgruppen.

    Snap Rosie.

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  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    To describe Australia as “sovereign” or as a “nation” before then denies the true meaning of those words.

    Well said!

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  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    To describe Australia as “sovereign” or as a “nation” before then denies the true meaning of those words.

    Sorry, I’ve a somewhat jaundiced view of the whole issue at the moment. The local activists are pushing the picture of the Noongar people living in peace and harmony with the land, in family groups, in clusters of huts along the river, each family group caring for the children and the old people, until the evil whitefella brought guns and disease…

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  22. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Wrong, the focus of the Germans, beginning on 1 September 1939 with the invasion of Poland, was the elimination of Jews. Until the death camps were set up, Jews were routinely herded into ghettoes, shot dead, buried alive, and set fire to in homes and synagogues. The Germans found all of this inefficient, hence the construction of gas chambers, which was to quicken the process of eliminating Europe’s Jews, but it was also easier.

    I’m using details from the book KL: history of the concentration camps .. the book is about the internal camp system operations not the outside camp atrocities ……

  23. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Gassing was introduced because killing by hand was too slow

    Germans also have had an odd fetish about chemistry for a long time. We had to do a semester of German in fourth year uni because of the Beilstein and Gmelin encyclopediae. I still have my English-German science dictionary somewhere. There was something about German society in the early 20thC that just went nuts for chemistry. We still have some of the players around, like Bayer and Merck.

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  24. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    “up to 1940 it was other Germans, communists, criminals ( a catch-all definition used to cover anyone it suited ) anyone not Nazi politically

    In 1937 there was some knowledge of the camps. My 3 great uncles were arrested because, as dock workers in Hamburg, they were through and through socialists.

    They were given a choice, enlist, or the whole family , in this case Uroma, their mother, Oma, their sister, and my mother, their niece, would be sent to a camp.

    Obviously enough was known that two chose the navy, they are both somewhere on the bottom of the Atlantic, one went down on the Bismarck, the other’s U-boat never returned . The third, left his arm at Stalingrad.

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  25. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    A friend of mine’s father was born in a village outside Krakow. He wrote his memoirs, which were distributed to family and friends. I’ve read them, not easy reading. These memoirs are now lodged in the US Holocaust Museum and at Yad Vashem. This man was one of 12 children, his parents were middling types, his father was a tailor. My friend’s father was a teenager when the Germans arrived in that village in September 1939. From day one the Germans started harassing Jews, beating them, confining them to particular streets and of course, the compulsory wearing of the star on clothing. One of my friend’s father’ brothers was a “special”, in his early teens, well he didn’t last long, given to taunting the Germans, he was shot dead by them shortly after the Germans arrived.

    My friend’s father’s story is painful, but he was one tough Jew, which is why he survived. When the surviving Jews in the village were being rounded up to be transported to the ghetto in Krakow (before they were liquidated), my friend’s father escaped and fled to the forest where he joined Jewish and Polish partisans. He was always proud of that, the fighting he did. He survived the war, just. After the war, he returned to the village to learn his mother, his father and all of his siblings had been murdered when the Krakow ghetto was liquidated, however, after moving to Australia in the late 1950s, long assuming he was the sole survivor, in 1968 he received a letter from a US Jewish Agency to tell him that an older sister had survived and she was living in Chicago.

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  26. Davey Boy Avatar

    Those who have volunteered via Fair Australia to assist at referendum “pre-poll” places and at booths on the day itself may have just received an email like the one below (italics).

    It sounds great in theory, but based on my first-hand observations of the nearly non-existent and shambolic logistics the SFLs put up in my western Sydney electorate at the latest state election, it’s actually a bit of a concern.

    The Libs and Nats may end up being a hindrance not a help. If there’s any change that that can balls it up, then they probably will:

    Dear Davey,

    As early voting gets closer and closer, we’re firming up the plans for all the activity on booths so we win every vote we can.

    And you may have seen reports recently that we got a big boost with the Liberal and National parties joining forces with Fair Australia to help coordinate polling day operations around the country. [The Australian, ‘Indigenous voice to parliament: Libs and Nats bolster No campaign, as Yes23 launches new ad’, September 15, 2023.]

    There’s no question the Yes campaign is using every resource at its disposal to try to buy the result through its union and activist networks, so the help of these major parties will go a long way to countering that effort.

    Joining forces means more resources, more manpower, and more on-the-ground support to give us every chance of stopping them dividing our country by race in the Constitution.

    What does that mean for you?

    Nothing changes in terms of your volunteer commitments, however some of the local polling booth organising will now be done by coordinators from the Liberal or National parties who are volunteering on behalf of Fair Australia’s ‘NO’ campaign.

    That means they might contact you on our behalf, however please note that your data will still be removed after referendum day as per our commitment to you when you first put your hand up to join our team.
    etc

    “more resources, more manpower, and more on-the-ground support” I’m calling BS on this. They were nowhere to be seen, why would it be any different for the referendum?

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A friend of mine’s father was born in a village outside Krakow.

    The lady, and her husband, who ran the tearooms in the Wheatbelt town I grew up in, were Holocaust survivors. They chose Australia because it was the furthermost place on Earth from Europe, and they were concerned that all the old hatreds would flare again..

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  28. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Oh. My. Lord.

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  29. pete m Avatar
    pete m

    gws would have won with a few less selfish shots in front of goal.

  30. pete m Avatar
    pete m

    the umps also did not give at least 4 free kicks to gws in last 5 minutes – ankle trip, high tackles, holding ball – guess AFL ordered magpies to win.

  31. Rosie Avatar
    Rosie

    No JC.
    It identified significant weaknesses in the mygov app, it is too easy to set up a fake account and link it to tfns harvested via the Medicare and Optus hacks.
    The ATO apparently had/has less security checks than Medicare when it comes to linking new mygov accounts to existing TFNs, then allowing changes to contact numbers, bank account details etc and scammers were lodging quickly in early July or in quiet parts of the FY.
    I doubt inside knowledge would be required, just a matter of testing the system to see what works, I think the article said most refunds were under 5k, both bas and it returns were affected.
    After all the ATO prefills most payg details; add in a bunch of big tax deductions and a nice refund goes in to the new account within around ten days, and the account can be emptied immediately.

    But what’s half a bill in taxpayers’ money; easy come, easy go.

  32. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    well, that was a tense 10 minutes

    BWS coulda done it

  33. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    BWS/GWS

    whatevs … same colours

  34. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    DEW directed at the eyes of the umpires by Magpie fans high in the light towers.
    Pete m is all over it.

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  35. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    the umps also did not give at least 4 free kicks to gws in last 5 minutes – ankle trip, high tackles, holding ball – guess AFL ordered magpies to win

    Ahhhhh…..

    No.

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  36. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    I am now sufficiently recovered to visit a local establishment.

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  37. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    I’m off to bed.
    A long drive to SA tomorrow and hoping to buy a top yard dog at the Lucindale working dog auction on Sunday.

  38. Gabor Avatar
    Gabor

    I like nearly all of you who participate on this blog, but arguments about who is left or right wing here is futile if not outright silly, other than a few obvious ones, most of us lean to the right or at least to the center.

    Besides, it’s all relative to your own ideology as to which newspaper is of the right or left, I know a raving Marxist who regards a fellow traveler as to the right of Genghis Khan, because of just one position they disagree on, they agree on everything else.

  39. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    the umps also did not give at least 4 free kicks to gws in last 5 minutes – ankle trip, high tackles, holding ball – guess AFL ordered magpies to win.

    One might think that. The umpiring was terrible for a while there. The trip was unforgivable.

  40. Louis Litt Avatar
    Louis Litt

    Knuckles
    Word has trickled down Moore is a flamer – ugly looking dude.

  41. Salvatore, Iron Publican Avatar
    Salvatore, Iron Publican

    Wonder when Dame Caroline Dinenage will get around to writing to Youtube about this chap:

    Rapper Tory Lanez shot a woman in the feet while screaming “dance, bitch!”.

    Convicted in court and jailed for 10 years. His YouTube channel has not been demonetised.

  42. Dot Avatar

    Sone balls on those kids, with those fake government accounts.

    Get this: ATO was hacked. The hacker changed the bank details on the return. It took the ATO three months to investigate the event and pay the refund. It means the hacking occurred on the ATO side of the return; otherwise, they wouldn’t have paid out. I find this amazing.

    Did the niece get paid points? These arseholes were into her for 50k.

    Still, this doesn’t explain how the ATO got hacked short of faking your nieces’ profile, a form of social engineering attack, which in theory wouldn’t be too hard since it was discussed how easily the keys could be replicated as they were linked to your name and not random enough. Remember how geeks were discussing SLKs back in 2016-2018 and how a simple JavaScript file could replicate the key of DOB & full names? One blogger I read proved they could replicate the keys for MT Esq PM and the singing budgie.

  43. Dot Avatar

    Surely a doc wouldn’t have Optus or Medibank Private like some of us plebs?

  44. Robert Sewell Avatar

    Doc BeauGan:

    Who tells these scum what to do? Who gave the order to cancel Brand and all those who support him?

    They smell the way the wind is blowing. It becomes self reinforcing.

  45. Gabor Avatar
    Gabor

    Robert Sewell
    Sep 23, 2023 12:20 AM

    Doc BeauGan:

    Who tells these scum what to do? Who gave the order to cancel Brand and all those who support him?

    They smell the way the wind is blowing. It becomes self reinforcing.

    The Illuminati, so to speak, have their own social network as do car enthusiast. What’s more, they have access to journos, and other media outlets.

    Simple as.

  46. Robert Sewell Avatar

    You don’t need to be a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
    The creed of the go-along to get-along set.

  47. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    Cash!

    woof bark growl:

    Cash 2.0 Great Dane at Union Station in downtown Los Angeles

    I planted a huge kiss on a mastiv today.

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