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Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 12:19 pm

Fr Brennan: Vote Yes despite ‘hell of a mess.’

I suspect Franks engagements on the speaking circuit will dry up after this.

Noel Pearson, otoh, already a fixture on it, might cement himself as the lauded spokesman of the lost cause.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 12:28 pm

Roger

Sep 25, 2023 10:17 AM

Notable that while the Voice is tanking, Dutton’s ratings continue to plummet…

It might be Liberal policy (that’s another problem), but by proposing a referendum on constitutional recognition in the midst of the current campaign and offering to work “constructively” with Albanese to legislate an indigenous voice should the referendum fail, Dutton has foolishly made this about his own leadership as much as it is about Albanese’s.

I don’t think this is about Dutton reaching out, or reaching around or being bi-partisan or any such thing.
This is Liberal “strategists” thinking they have a wedge issue and flogging it to death.
By proposing narrow symbolic recognition, they think the hard left of Labor will reject it as tokenism, whilst the centre-right Labor voters might see it as a stepping stone, and a bunfight ensues.
Truth is, most voters will see it as a waste of time. I am hoping that, if Luigi’s “modesht, generoush and reashonable proposhal” goes down in flames, Dutton will call “The tribe has spoken” on this.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 12:41 pm

Extract from ..Hitler’s Legions .. Samuel W Meecham jr (1985)

14th SS Grenadier Division (Galizische#1)
Home station: Ukraine, Galicia

Formed from Ukrainian volunteers with German & Austrian officers, NCOs, the14th SS was organized and trained in Galicia, April 1943 .. In March 1944 it was sent into action on the central sector of the Russian front where it was trapped in the Brody-Tarnow Pocket in the Soviet Summer offensive in July. .. Only 3 000 of 14 000 men managed to break out.
The remnants were sent to Slovakia and then to Germany for reforming & returned to the Eastern front (then in Southern Poland) late 1944. By March the burned-out division was fighting in Slovakia. It fell into Soviet captivity at the end of the War and most of its men were subsequently killed ..
The 14th SS Grenadier was described as well-equipped but poorly trained and inexperienced ….

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 25, 2023 12:41 pm

Warning contains some naughty words

Maybe Branson should shut down Virgin-the-airline. It must emit quite a lot of CO2, after all. I am sick of rich hypocrites saving the world. If they only left it alone it’d be just fine.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2023 12:42 pm

The ABC was warning us last week:

The AEC is preparing to begin remote voter services next week, which will involve sending workers to more than 750 remote locations around the country.

“We’re putting the final touches on transport arrangements for plane bookings, helicopters, four-wheel drives, I think we might even be using boats as well, to get the vote out to remote communities,” Mr Rogers said.

Ahead of the vote, 1.2 million Australians have applied for postal votes – an increase of around 200,000 from the previous federal election – which may have an impact on the count on referendum night, along with the expected high demand for pre-poll voting.

“2022 was in the high watermark for postal votes anyway because of the pandemic,” Mr Rogers said.

“People have asked me, ‘Will we get a result?’ And the answer is I don’t know. It depends on how close the result is.

“It could well be that we have to wait for the postal ballots to return before results become clear.”

Cassie proposed:

If the Voice fails (and I’ll only count my chickens on the night of the vote),

The reported 1.2M postals are ~6.6% of the total vote. If that number is true there will need to be significant early voting before any switching of votes could change the result. I estimate with 20% early-voting and 66% of early and postal votes secretly switched, the result would be switched. While the postals are unusually large, they are not enough by themselves.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 12:45 pm

I don’t think this is about Dutton reaching out, or reaching around or being bi-partisan or any such thing. This is Liberal “strategists” thinking they have a wedge issue and flogging it to death.

Too smart by half.

They should take their lead from little Boney:

Never interrupt your enemy while he’s making a mistake.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 12:46 pm

Even I got discriminated in London when I came down for a weekend from Manchester.

I’ll see your Manchester and raise you Newcastle ..!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 12:46 pm

I just went looking for the biggest referendum thrashing in history.
I had forgotten these four gems put up concurrently in 1988:-
# 39 Parliamentary Terms 32.92% national vote, 0:6 state majority.
#40 Fair Elections … 37.60% 0:6
#41 Local Government … 33.62% 0:6
#42 Rights and Freedoms … 30.79% 0:6.

A timely reminder for Dutton. The “Preamble to the Constitution” put up in 1999, which is similar to his Recognition proposal, went down 0:6 on state majority and 39% of the national vote.

Viva
Viva
September 25, 2023 12:47 pm

Re Dutton

Remember the old saying that “Politics is show business for ugly people”.

Robert Sewell
September 25, 2023 12:53 pm

dover0beach

Sep 25, 2023 12:21 AM
New OT at 12.30am.

Just curious – any reason we can’t use the 24 hour clock on this site?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 1:00 pm

Just curious – any reason we can’t use the 24 hour clock on this site?

Perhaps go the whole hog & use Zulu time. 🙂
Makes it easier for those Cats who’re in far flung parts of the world.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 1:00 pm

A Judge (or someone claiming to be) and some lawyers turn up at a sheep station with a mob of over one hundred demanding access. Can a ethics complaint be made?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 1:02 pm

Daily Mail.

‘Homeless-looking’ pensioner’s stunning final act of kindness as he leaves every cent of his $4.5million Clovelly home to charity

Bequest from Malcolm Mawhinney estate
Money will go to Bill Crews’ homelessness charity

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 1:04 pm

A Judge (or someone claiming to be) and some lawyers turn up at a sheep station with a mob of over one hundred demanding access. Can a ethics complaint be made?

Who owns the 100 sheep & is the intention to depasture them on the station & will agistment be paid up front?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 1:07 pm

In Failed State news:

Met police request support from army after officers down firearms

Suella Braverman ordered a review of armed policing to calm a growing rebellion of about 100 officers over the charging on Wednesday of an officer for the murder of 24-year-old Chris Kaba, an unarmed man killed last September by a single shot to the head.

Some background:

At the time, Mr Kaba had only recently been released from a four-year term in a young offender institution for possession of a firearm with intent to cause fear of violence.

On the evening of September 5, Mr Kaba had left the home of his mother, Helen Lumuanganu, also known as Nkama, in Peckham but it is not known where he was going. While driving the Audi it activated an automatic number plate recognition camera that alerted police to a link to a firearms incident in the previous days.

The car was subjected to a “hard stop” after a pursuit by two armed response vehicles carrying specialist firearms officers, which boxed him in.

Just before 10pm, residents in Kirkstall Gardens heard a single shot. An anonymous witness later told the Standard: “Armed police jumped out and were shouting at the man, ‘Get out of the car’. It was at least a dozen times. The guy in the car had a lot of opportunities to stop but he refused. He then started driving towards a police car and smashed into it, then reversed, he just wouldn’t stop the vehicle.

So, it sounds like a proper naughty boy has played stupid games and won a stupid prize. But the firearms officer was charged with murder – shirley there must be more to the story:

Habib Kadiri, from stop-and-search campaign group StopWatch, responded to why Mr Kaba may not have complied with the instructions of a firearms officer on that fateful night.

He said: “In our conversations with individuals subjected to a stop-and-search, we often find that the inherently aggressive tactics of the officers involved crowd out any notion of so-called ‘rational behaviour’. The nature of street policing induces panic.

And, of course:

[Cava’s girlfriend’s mother] said her future son-in-law had an apprenticeship to become an architect, adding earlier this month: “He was so loved. He was so funny. He was super-kind. If that was a white boy, he would have got a chance to get out the car.”

It’s hard to overestimate the British Establishment fear of race riots.
As proper naughty boys all know.

Not immediately clear what rules of engagement the SAS will have with aspiring architects ramming them with a stolen car.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 1:10 pm

I’m not saying whose it is, Salv. For know it is only a demand for access to the land and un used building.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 1:11 pm

Who owns the 100 sheep & is the intention to depasture them on the station

A hundred KCs in those white wigs they wear could be mistaken for a flock of sheep.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2023 1:11 pm
Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 1:16 pm

Not immediately clear what rules of engagement the SAS will have with aspiring architects ramming them with a stolen car.

I’ve a feeling SAS troopers wouldn’t put up with that for very long.

The demeanour of SAS when conducting a “hard stop” may differ from that of the Met. Such that aspiring architects will instinctively perform a risk/benefit analysis & determine in <25milliseconds that new rules apply, not weighted in their favour.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2023 1:17 pm

Dr F

Anything north of Watford Gap or west of the Severn gets discriminated against.

That’s “Wa’fud”, with a strong glottal stop, thank you.

Bluey
Bluey
September 25, 2023 1:24 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 25, 2023 1:16 PM
Not immediately clear what rules of engagement the SAS will have with aspiring architects ramming them with a stolen car.

I’ve a feeling SAS troopers wouldn’t put up with that for very long.

The demeanour of SAS when conducting a “hard stop” may differ from that of the Met. Such that aspiring architects will instinctively perform a risk/benefit analysis & determine in <25milliseconds that new rules apply, not weighted in their favour.

Utmost professionalism I’m sure. Just their idea of making someone stop right now may be a little more…. aggressive than crims are used to.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2023 1:24 pm

Worthy of a repost.

Rukshan, Avi and Sam.

Boo who? Sam Newman doubles down — The Opposition Podcast No. 14

Zatara
Zatara
September 25, 2023 1:25 pm

The nature of street policing induces panic.

Yeah, the sort of people who don’t have violent firearms offenses are always soiling their daks when the cops pull them over.

They can’t hear or understand specific, simple, and emphatic instructions. Turns them catatonic it does.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 1:26 pm

Utmost professionalism I’m sure. Just their idea of making someone stop right now may be a little more…. aggressive than crims are used to.

Ask Lee Clegg!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 1:29 pm

Darwin real estate agent Suzi Milgate charged with NT Chief Minister Natasha Fyles’ assault

exclusive
By liam mendes
Reporter
@liammendes
Updated 12:38PM September 25, 2023, First published at 11:50AM September 25, 2023

A Darwin real estate agent can be revealed as the woman accused of allegedly attacking Northern Territory Chief Minister Natasha Fyles with a cream pancake on Sunday morning.

Suzi Milgate was arrested on Sunday evening, accused of attacking Ms Fyles. Multiple sources claim the 56-year-old is a vocal Covid-19 vaccination critic.

Ms Milgate has been charged with aggravated assault, and a source told The Australian Ms Fyles was left with a “slightly” bruised face.
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The director of Milgate Real Estate, based in Larrakeyah, has been bailed to appear in a Darwin Local Court on October 10, 2023.

m0nty
m0nty
September 25, 2023 1:37 pm

Peter Dutton, whilst not very “visual”, is actually a very astute and sagacious politician

He is a boofhead, always has been, always will be.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2023 1:40 pm

Not immediately clear what rules of engagement the SAS will have with aspiring architects ramming them with a stolen car.

Hand him a blueprint for a better future?

Robert Sewell
September 25, 2023 1:42 pm

Vicki:

Sep 25, 2023 10:53 AM
Roger – I have to agree that while Dutton wants to work”constructively” with Labor he is doomed. Why doesn’t he have the intelligence to see this doesn’t work? I think he is obsessed with the nebulous “middle ground”.

He’s riding under instruction.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 1:42 pm

Important news from the world of science:

Apparently we’re all washing our armpits incorrectly (Tele, 21 Sep, unpaywalled)

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 1:47 pm

“He is a boofhead, always has been, always will be.”

Really? Some points here…

1. Unlike you, Peter Dutton doesn’t think his ideological opponents should be “punched”.

2. Unlike you, Peter Dutton is not a racist or a Jew hater.

3. Unlike you, Peter Dutton doesn’t think women being assaulted at rallies is ‘funny’.

Carry on, pervert apologist.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 1:54 pm

Just curious – any reason we can’t use the 24 hour clock on this site?

For those who have AM/PM dyslexia?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 1:57 pm

He is a boofhead, always has been, always will be.

Peter Dutton would have gone to Malmo….

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2023 1:58 pm

Nothing personal, or trouser-related.
Anything north of Watford Gap or west of the Severn gets discriminated against.

It’s in the fine print of the Magna Carta.

People from the Sarf’ of England, especially the London area, don’t think that anyfink’ norf’ of Watford Gap exists.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 2:09 pm

This ukrainian blogger reported on her visit to Odessa, and her disappointment with the locals who seemed to be pro-Russian and didn’t even try to switch to the ukrainian language.

This story may be a harbinger for Ukraine.

Explainer: Why are 120,000 people about to move from Nagorno-Karabakh? (24 Sep)

MOSCOW, Sept 24 (Reuters) – The 120,000 ethnic Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh will leave for Armenia as they do not want to live as part of Azerbaijan and fear ethnic cleansing, the leadership of the breakaway region told Reuters on Sunday.

Gloves are coming off all around the world. I suggest ethnic Ukrainians and ethnic Russians caught on the wrong side of borders might wish to make migration plans.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 25, 2023 2:14 pm

Just had a conversation with somebody who has experience in working in major corporations

At previous one they held a diversity week which was opened with a Welcome to Country performance. 3 people for 1 hour for total cost $12,000. Not the first time and always must be cash.

At current employer there is a major conflict between trying to save the company money and meeting diversity KPI’s. It causes major problem as for example the higher ups willing to pay $2-300,000 more for contracts because an “Aboriginal” business. The have quotas in relation to how many such contracts and total yearly value. In most cases the “Aboriginal” business is more expensive and may also not be value for money. Then there is the issue that the company is “Blackwashing” by having Aboriginal directors and staff when basically operated by non Aboriginals.
Not surprisingly voting No.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 25, 2023 2:21 pm

It’s always a strange feeling when one reads a post quoting another post, of which I seem to have inadvertently missed.

Then it becomes apparent that the quoted post is Mönty’s, and the world makes sense again.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 25, 2023 2:22 pm

Thanks, Cassie, for reading Münty’s posts so we don’t have to.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 25, 2023 2:27 pm

Mayo Clinic Website Now Says Hydroxychloroquine CAN Be Used to Treat COVID-19 Patients, Previously Claimed It Was Not Effective

The Mayo Clinic which has been touted by many as the best hospital system and medical research center in the United States, recently made an interesting update on their website regarding the drug Hydroxychloroquine.

In the new update on their site, it now says “Hydroxychloroquine may be used to treat coronavirus (COVID-19) in certain hospitalized patients.”

Previously the Mayo Clinic claimed Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine were “malaria drugs authorized for emergency use by the FDA during the COVID-19 pandemic. However, the FDA withdrew that authorization when data analysis showed that the drugs are not effective for treating COVID-19.”

US Brand Name Plaquenil

Descriptions

Hydroxychloroquine is used to treat malaria. It is also used to prevent malaria infection in areas or regions where it is known that other medicines (eg, chloroquine) may not work. Hydroxychloroquine may also be used to treat coronavirus (COVID-19) in certain hospitalized patients.

Using this medicine alone or with other medicines (eg, azithromycin) may increase your risk of heart rhythm problems (eg, QT prolongation, ventricular fibrillation, ventricular tachycardia). Hydroxychloroquine should only be used for COVID-19 in a hospital or during clinical trials. Do not take any medicine that contains hydroxychloroquine unless prescribed by your doctor.

Hydroxychloroquine belongs to a group of medicines known as antimalarials. It works by preventing or treating malaria, a red blood cell infection transmitted by the bite of a mosquito. However, this medicine is not used to treat severe or complicated malaria.

Hydroxychloroquine is used to treat discoid lupus erythematosus (DLE) or systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE or lupus). It is also used to treat acute and chronic rheumatoid arthritis.

This medicine is available only with your doctor’s prescription.

This product is available in the following dosage forms:

Tablet

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2023 2:27 pm

More cream pie details (the NT News):

Cullen Bay real estate agent Suzi Milgate has defended an alleged assault on Chief Minister Natasha Fyles with a crepe at the Nightcliff markets on Sunday.

Hours after being charged by NT Police with aggravated assault, the Cullen Bay real estate agent defended her actions and advised Ms Fyles to “get over it”.

She said her actions were a result of “frustration”, denied she had assaulted the Chief Minister and refused to apologise for the alleged assault, describing the incident as a “minor error”.

“It was just a cream pie out of frustration,” she said.

“She won’t talk to the people and address the real issues of Darwin.

“All the crime, violence, murders and not being able to answer any of us with concerns in the community.”

Ms Milgate rejected suggestions she had gone too far.

“What, a cream pie? For f— sakes. That’s not an assault, is a cream pie f—ing assault? And it’s fresh cream, how hard is fresh cream?”

And:

Ms Milgate said the Chief Minister had the Nightcliff Bendigo Bank branch open on a Sunday “with all her colleagues and had the bank manager there on a Sunday for her and her colleagues”.

When told it was a 15th anniversary celebration for the branch, Ms Milgate persisted, saying it didn’t “add up”.

“So why did they have, with a politician a bank opening on a Sunday? It doesn’t add up to me,” she said.

Milgate is in fact a leading member of the NT sovereign citizen movement.

The same movement – which, along with their counterparts in other States and Territories – hijacked the righteous anti-mandate movement for their own special brand of idiocy.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 25, 2023 2:27 pm

Appros of English regions and tensions therin:

Tom Scott: How to be popular on the internet [08:27]

Crossie
Crossie
September 25, 2023 2:28 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 25, 2023 11:57 AM
Apart from his political missteps Dutton just doesn’t engage visually.”

I’m sorry, but this is both shallow and ridiculous, people seem to have forgotten that neither Howard nor Rudd nor Abbott nor Morrison nor Albanese “engaged visually”.

I wasn’t commenting about people on this blog but the average voters in suburbia. They may not read what we read and therefore use other methods as shortcuts to decide for whom to vote.

I’m glad Dutton kept his seat all these years however, the top job requires more.

Speedbox
September 25, 2023 2:36 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Sep 25, 2023 2:09 PM
Gloves are coming off all around the world. I suggest ethnic Ukrainians and ethnic Russians caught on the wrong side of borders might wish to make migration plans.

Agreed. It’s sad, but those on the ‘wrong side’ of an official or unofficial border would be well advised to consider their domicile. Yes, they shouldn’t have to but its been that way in innumerable places around the world for 000’s of years and new (or old, rekindled) flare-ups are reinforcing the message.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 2:37 pm
Speedbox
September 25, 2023 2:38 pm

This was in the afternoon edition of Stockhead:

There’s an interesting yarn emerging from the US this morning, after an Ohio man visiting West Virginia had emergency services scrambling to reach him, deep in the bush and in mortal peril.

47-year-old Christian Leonhardt rang the 911 emergency number, screaming repeatedly down the phone that he was about to be attacked by a bear and was in desperate need of assistance.

Some help was sent, but – as the 911 operator kept the man on the line, as they’re trained to do, the story began to evolve.

Leonhardt, it is alleged, went on to claim that he had been walking through the wilderness for days, then claimed that it was more than one bear currently seeking to attack him.

Then, he claimed, that the bears had been stalking him for a number of days – and then started screaming that the bears had actually attacked, telling dispatchers that he now had a serious head wound, and that he was about to die.

This is, obviously, a very serious predicament – one that prompted an enormous coordinated response, with a large number of emergency personnel sent at high speed to reach the man and save his life.

The response team were most of the way through the process of scrambling a helicopter to reach him when – two hours after the initial call – Leonhardt was found by the first rescue team, without a scratch on him.

There wasn’t a bear in sight, and it took only a few minutes for Leonhardt to explain that the reason he’d called with a cockamamie story about being attacked by a roving gang of bears was because:

1. He was drunk
2. He didn’t feel like walking back to town, and wanted a ride.

Police solved the first issue by agreeing to his second wish – he was driven directly to the West Virginia Regional Jail, where he was charged with one count of falsely reporting an emergency incident, and left to sleep off the booze.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 2:41 pm

“What, a cream pie? For f— sakes. That’s not an assault, is a cream pie f—ing assault? And it’s fresh cream, how hard is fresh cream?”

Was it double cream?
Did she whip the cream first?
If so, is that assault?

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2023 2:44 pm

You’d think the Brit police and government would have decorated the police officer who took out the rampant car perp.

A car driven as a weapon is formidable. If he won’t get out of the car and starts ramming police cars what is their option – harsh language?

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 2:46 pm

Milgate is in fact a leading member of the NT sovereign citizen movement.

The same movement – which, along with their counterparts in other States and Territories – hijacked the righteous anti-mandate movement for their own special brand of idiocy.

Cheers KD. It was an assault. No different to anifa throwing milkshakes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 2:48 pm

… people seem to have forgotten that neither Howard nor Rudd nor Abbott nor Morrison nor Albanese “engaged visually”.

I’m not sure they gave small children nightmares either. I’m not convinced Spud will be the next Lieboral PM somehow.

Crossie
Crossie
September 25, 2023 2:50 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 25, 2023 12:11 PM
Andrew Peacock was much more ‘visually engaging’ than either Bob Hawke or John Howard.

Peacock was arrogant which would have turned off a lot of voters.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 2:53 pm

Has Professor Saliva Ferris been charged with assault yet?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 2:55 pm

It’s hard to overestimate the British Establishment fear of race riots.
As proper naughty boys all know.

Pommy race riots are always in old mill towns. The Establishment would only read about them over their morning kippers. Not a good look though.

Lee
Lee
September 25, 2023 3:03 pm

He is a boofhead, always has been, always will be.

And your PM (not mine) is a devious, lying POS.

m0nty
m0nty
September 25, 2023 3:04 pm

If I was Dutton, I would be trying to figure out how to beat the Teals at the next election to win those heartland seats back.

Nukes aren’t the answer. They have always been a distraction, a delaying gambit pushed by the fossil fuel lobby. No one in Australia treats them seriously.

Teal voters are obviously in the mood for something constructive to be done about climate change. Is Dutton capable of forming any sort of constructive, positive, nation-building policy? So far, zero evidence.

He can’t wedge his way out of the Teal dilemma. It is the Libs themselves that have been wedged. The party has spent decades moving away from its liberal principles and towards crony lobbyists. The Teals plonked themselves right in the middle of that gap. If Dutton wants their votes back, he can’t go around the Teals, he must engage with their complaints.

If he pretends the problem doesn’t exist, it will only get worse. Ignore it long enough, and the Party will officially split.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 3:07 pm

The downside of rejecting the Yes.
Looks like Kamahl will have to pay his own way on Qantas flights.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 3:10 pm

If I was Dutton, I would be trying to figure out how to beat the Teals at the next election to win those heartland seats back.

Let the stupid wet seats go, let ’em experience the benefits of high taxes & punishing regulation.

Copying Trump would work & work far better. Go for the vote of workers, who are lumped with high interest rates, joblessness & closed industries, by the white collar softcocks in the ALP/Greens.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 3:11 pm

Oh look, the pervert apologist now fancies himself as a Liberal Party advisor.

LOL.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 3:12 pm

Most of those Teals seats will be reclaimed by the Liberal Party at the next election. I suspect North Sydney, Wentworth, Goldstein and Curtin will be back in the Liberal fold.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 3:13 pm

Oh look, the pervert apologist now fancies himself as a Liberal Party advisor.

mUnty putting that fantasy football to good use.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 3:14 pm

Teal voters are obviously in the mood for something constructive to be done about climate change.

Yep, they’re in the mood for “something to be done” by other people.
Until the flogs of the Teal movement cease their international flights, cease heating/cooking their yuuuuge homes, driving to the shops instead of cycling, & so on, they can go flog themselves.

I’m not interested in having my lifestyle curbed & made more expensive, just so some airheaded trophy wife in Kooyong can feel so virtuous when she’s sipping wine imported from froglandia.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 3:14 pm

Nukes aren’t the answer. They have always been a distraction, a delaying gambit pushed by the fossil fuel lobby.

If nukes aren’t the answer in a net-zero environment, then what’s the question, you fat lesbian? Propellers on sticks? Plastic panels? Batteries? Don’t make people laugh.

Nukes aren’t the answer. Coal-fired stations are, but if they’re not, then they have to be nukes. Moreover, lift the ban and allow the market to decide, you noodle brain.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 3:14 pm

mUnty is now upper middle class. Core Lieboral demographic.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 3:16 pm

EVERY UNIVERSITY HAS WHOLE DEPARTMENTS AIMED AT FEEDING FEMALE ANGER AGAINST MEN:

Again, Gender Studies departments — and much of the rest of the campus — at universities everywhere foster female anger, and do it proudly. But this is a problem of “hate” — probably because of growing evidence that young men are trending Republican.

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 25, 2023 3:17 pm

If I was Dutton.

Nice attempt at using the subjunctive mood.

If I were…

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 3:17 pm

Hard to see the Teals retaining Curtin. Although I was wrong last time. As I have said before, no SloMo changes everything.

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2023 3:17 pm

H B Bear
Sep 25, 2023 3:14 PM
mUnty is now upper middle class. Core Lieboral demographic.

More like constant meddling/muddling with no class whatsoever.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 3:18 pm

Not the first time and always must be cash.

Goods and Services Tax not charged, then?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2023 3:20 pm

m0nty
Sep 25, 2023 3:04 PM
If I was Dutton, I would be trying to figure out how to beat the Teals at the next election to win those heartland seats back.

Whatever he does, he should not approach those suburban seats that the Liars have abandoned.

Nukes aren’t the answer. They have always been a distraction, a delaying gambit pushed by the fossil fuel lobby. No one in Australia treats them seriously.

Unreliable, non-continuous power is the way of the future, please don’t even consider anything reliable.

Teal voters are obviously in the mood for something constructive to be done about climate change. Is Dutton capable of forming any sort of constructive, positive, nation-building policy? So far, zero evidence.

There is something really, really constructive about destroying a reliable energy network.

He can’t wedge his way out of the Teal dilemma. It is the Libs themselves that have been wedged. The party has spent decades moving away from its liberal principles and towards crony lobbyists. The Teals plonked themselves right in the middle of that gap. If Dutton wants their votes back, he can’t go around the Teals, he must engage with their complaints.

The Liars, of course, have never, ever, been in bed with lobbyists. Other than Mike Cannon-Balls, the Toxic Leprechaun, the unions, the superannuation industry, the Slime, and multiple other subsidy harvesters.

If he pretends the problem doesn’t exist, it will only get worse. Ignore it long enough, and the Party will officially split.

Shorter mUnty: “Please don’t throw me in that briar patch.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 3:22 pm

WA Police welcomes first batch of UK and Ireland cops as efforts to reverse exodus of officers ramp up
Josh Zimmerman
The West Australian
Mon, 25 September 2023 12:45PM
Comment

WA Police’s first batch of international reinforcements begin their training this week as the Force ramps up its efforts to reverse a big exodus of officers that began during the COVID pandemic.

Twenty-seven international officers from the UK and Ireland were sworn in at the Police Academy on Monday as part of a 30-person “transitional training squad” that will hit the frontlines early next year.

The remainder of the squad – which will undergo an abbreviated 13-week training course – is comprised of two interstate cops and one former WA police officer who is re-joining the Force.

Every member of the training group has at least three years of policing experience under their belts already, with some of the overseas recruits – who range in age from 26 to 51 – boasting decades on the beat.

Police Minister Paul Papalia travelled to the UK and Ireland earlier this year in an attempt to entice officers to uproot their lives and relocate to WA.

That trip came after 459 WA police resigned in 2022, a dizzying departure rate the Opposition has blamed on cultural issues within the Force but that Mr Papalia insists is consistent with global trends.

A further 224 officers have handed in their badges in the first seven months of 2023. The total number of cops stood at 6879 as of July 31 – down from 6927 in mid-2021.

The fall has come despite the Cook Government vowing to grow the overall size of WA Police by 950 officers ahead of the 2021 election, with the target set at 7331 by June 2024.

Good luck dealing with truculent Aborigines in fun places like Halls Creek.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 3:22 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 25, 2023 3:12 PM

Most of those Teals seats will be reclaimed by the Liberal Party at the next election. I suspect North Sydney, Wentworth, Goldstein and Curtin will be back in the Liberal fold.

That insane moron in Kooyong has to go as well as the former ABC parasite in Goldstein. Losing the election to the Liars is one thing, but having to endure these two morons as well as an assortment in NSW is beyond tolerance. Zali and Spender have the intelligence level of a gnat.

Just the other day, our Zali was suggesting El Nino was instigated by gerbil warming.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 3:22 pm

“Hard to see the Teals retaining Curtin. Although I was wrong last time. As I have said before, no SloMo changes everything.”

Yep, also applies to Wentworth.

Interesting to read the polling done in Curtin re. the Invoice. YES ain’t doing very well, but then again, I suspect that YES will be decimated in QLD and WA.

Alamak!
September 25, 2023 3:23 pm

Nukes aren’t the answer. They have always been a distraction, a delaying gambit pushed by the fossil fuel lobby. No one in Australia treats them seriously.

BS. I know you’re selling the Labor/Teal/Greens party line but this quote when given a bit of sunlight i.e. real data and non-bought analysis (c.f. CSIRO rubbish reports) just crumbles into nothing. Witness the useless Labor energy minister on Q&A who presents the same garbage and gets completely done over by facts and calls to meaningful action. See more here

People have had enough of Labor/Teals/Greens undermining and weakening this great country through lies, communism and favours for their mates.

Next election could be won or lost on having a real plan for energy security – which you, Bowen and Labor simply haver no ability to understand or even debate.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 3:26 pm

I know, It’s the Economist, but it’s an interesting observation.

Some of the easiest languages to learn for an English speaker

Requires about 24-30 weeks

Danish, Dutch, French, Italian, Spanish. Romanian, Swedish.

The hardest: Requires about 88 weeks

Arabic, Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin.

I’m pretty fluent in Mandarin.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 3:27 pm

WA Police welcomes first batch of UK and Ireland cops as efforts to reverse exodus of officers ramp up

WAPol have tried Pommy rozzers before. As soon as they settle on the house in Mindarie time to go FIFO.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 3:27 pm

“That insane moron in Kooyong has to go as well as the former ABC parasite in Goldstein. Losing the election to the Liars is one thing, but having to endure these two morons as well as an assortment in NSW is beyond tolerance. Zali and Spender have the intelligence level of a gnat.”

I agree JC, but the Liberals have to pull their finger out and have candidates installed at least six months before an election…..not five weeks.

They say independents are hard to dislodge, yes and no, sometimes they are, sometimes not. I suspect a large part of the Teal phenomenon was due to the Scumbag factor. Also, climate and the bullshit that the “Liberals have a woman problem” isn’t going to gel at the next election the way it did at the last election. I know several people who voted for Big Spender last year and have no intention of voting for her again.

Alamak!
September 25, 2023 3:27 pm

Until the flogs of the Teal movement cease their international flights, cease heating/cooking their yuuuuge homes, driving to the shops instead of cycling, & so on, they can go flog themselves.

Would be interesting to see the carbon footprint of the Green/Teal/Labor elites as they push hard to charge the actual working class (never went away, just got left behind by Labor) the costs of their impossible virtue signalling.

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2023 3:29 pm

Pommy race riots are always in old mill towns. The Establishment would only read about them over their morning kippers. Not a good look though.

The Brixton riots were in Brixton, SE London in the 1980s. Not a mill town area.

The Toxteth Riots in the 1980s were in Toxteth, Liverpool, which is up norf’ but not a mill town.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 3:29 pm

I suspect that YES will be decimated in QLD and WA.

The fiasco of the Aboriginal Heritage Legislation did the Voice no good at all!

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 3:33 pm

I’ve decided to keep the Economist sub. It’s appalling on American and Euro politics but they somehow allow interesting subjects to get the sensor (as in alarm). It hates the Chinese regime and their economics and business sections are sometimes decent.

The way to read their American and Euro politics sections is to know their always wrong, and so you therefore know what’s correct. 🙂

Speedbox
September 25, 2023 3:36 pm

dover0beach
Sep 25, 2023 1:55 PM
This ukrainian blogger reported on her visit to Odessa, and her disappointment with the locals who seemed to be pro-Russian and didn’t even try to switch to the ukrainian language.

Mrs Speedbox has often said that the Ukrainian language is ‘dirty Russian’ meaning that it is a hybrid of Russian, slang and intermixed with other languages. Complex history and whilst formalised these days, it started out as the language of the lower classes (peasants).

A bit like cockney is to English.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 25, 2023 3:37 pm

Speedbox
Sep 25, 2023 2:36 PM

Agreed. It’s sad, but those on the ‘wrong side’ of an official or unofficial border would be well advised to consider their domicile. Yes, they shouldn’t have to but its been that way in innumerable places around the world for 000’s of years and new (or old, rekindled) flare-ups are reinforcing the message.

As a native Victorian, this message resonates.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 3:37 pm

And the “Teals” are NOT true independents, rather they’re a cult, a cult funded by a creepy Svengali. True independents aren’t that cashed up. Someone like Dai Le is a true independent.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2023 3:38 pm

Some of the easiest languages to learn for an English speaker

Requires about 24-30 weeks

Danish, Dutch, French, Italian, Spanish. Romanian, Swedish.

M0nty speaks fluent bullshit. English, not so much.

Robert Sewell
September 25, 2023 3:41 pm

Third time this year that More Internet has failed to update my CC number despite me giving it to them on each occasion.
Each time, they’ve reverted back to an old CC number and then sent me an email describing that they will put a debit against me and make sure I will get my credit rating downgraded.
Then they cut off my CC access to them, and my phone, and internet so I cannot contact them and only allow a phone recredit number that doesn’t have an operator – only keystroke activated.
Use them at your peril.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 3:42 pm

This is a pretty decent piece in the Econ.

Fixed or semi fixed exchange rates don’t work unless it’s a pegged system allowing no deviation and adjustments have to occur internally.

China is pretty rooted and their exchange rate system makes it even worse.

Does China’s fear of floating exceed its fear of deflation?
The central bank is constrained by its own limits on the yuan

When economists pass judgment on exchange-rate regimes, they like to invoke the monetary-policy “trilemma”. A country might want a stable currency, free capital flows and an independent monetary policy, which can respond to the needs of the domestic economy, regardless of what central banks elsewhere are doing. There are, however, intrinsic tensions between these objectives. And so, sad to say, a country can choose only two of the three.

The trilemma is a canonical bit of theory. In practice, however, the choice is not so stark. No country can have all three blessings in full. But some countries, such as China, like a little of each.

This year, for example, China has tried to go its own way in monetary policy. A property slump, low consumer morale and falling exports have marred the economy’s reopening from covid-19, contributing to dangerously low inflation. In response, China’s central bank has eased its monetary stance, even as interest rates have risen dramatically in America and elsewhere. It lowered reserve requirements for banks on September 15th for the second time this year. It has also twice cut interest rates.

China’s slowdown and its monetary response have, predictably, weighed on the yuan. From mid-January, when euphoria about China’s reopening peaked, to September 8th, the yuan fell by 9% against the dollar. On the face of it, this is a good thing. A weaker currency should boost exports and ward off deflation. According to Goldman Sachs, a bank, a sustained 10% drop in the yuan against China’s trade partners could add 0.75 percentage points to China’s growth, which is struggling to reach 5% this year. It could also increase consumer-price inflation, which is near zero, by one percentage points in the long term.

China, however, would also like a little currency stability to go with its monetary independence. It fears that sharp declines in the yuan can lead investors to expect further falls. It still bears the scars of 2015, when a devaluation triggered heavy capital outflows. The central bank thus feels inhibited in its exercise of monetary autonomy. Its rate cuts have been small—only 0.1 percentage points each time for the short-term rate. They have also been discreet. In June it cut this seven-day rate two days earlier than such moves are normally made, notes Becky Liu of Standard Chartered, another bank, perhaps to avoid too conspicuous a clash with the monetary-policy meeting of America’s Federal Reserve.

China’s central bank has also tried to prop up the yuan. Officials have told speculators not to take one-sided bets. They have cut foreign-exchange reserve requirements for banks, releasing dollars into the system. The central bank has tightened yuan liquidity offshore, making it harder for speculators to borrow yuan in order to sell it. The central bank’s own foreign-exchange reserves fell by $44bn in August, not all of which can be easily accounted for by changes in the valuation of assets it holds. This raises the possibility that the bank intervened modestly itself.

China’s distinctive exchange-rate system also gives the central bank a chance to intervene in another way. The yuan is not allowed to float by more than 2% above or below a “fix”, which the bank calculates each morning. The fix is supposed to reflect the previous day’s market forces. But the bank sometimes introduces what it calls a “countercyclical factor” (ie, a fudge factor) into its calculations. This has allowed it to set the fix at a rate that is stronger than the previous day’s close. Indeed, in recent days there has been more fudge in the fix than ever before.
image: The Economist

These interventions have enjoyed some success. The yuan has stopped falling against the trade-weighted basket of currencies that the authorities use as a benchmark for managing its value (see chart). The currency is also a little stronger against the dollar than it was early in the month.

All this intervention comes at a cost. It tightens financial conditions, undoing some of the monetary easing the central bank is pursuing. Although a slightly more stable yuan can be engineered, it produces a somewhat less powerful monetary stimulus. China can have a little of everything. But not too much of anything. ?

There’s one failing in this piece. If China went to a floating rate regime, the amount capital moving out of the country would be just absolutely enormous. The currency wouldn’t just fall 10%, but would keep going and possibly halve or more. No one wants to keep their money there. In order to stabilize China would have to undo almost everything Satan’s representative on Earth has done over the past decade or more. That’s not going to happen.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2023 3:46 pm

A car driven as a weapon is formidable. If he won’t get out of the car and starts ramming police cars what is their option – harsh language?

No. The answer is more social workers.

Obviously.

Kneel
Kneel
September 25, 2023 3:47 pm

“Third time this year that More Internet has…”

Go to iinet.
They do what they say they will do, when they say they will do it.
I have never had an issue with them – not once in 5+ years.
They even reduced my rate and increased my data allowance without me doing anything – they just sent me a letter saying what they did.
Awesome.

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2023 3:48 pm

Just checked the Mark Steyn site and find that his health is not good.

I know he had some heart troubles a while ago. Does anyone have info?

Must admit I stopped going there very often once he changed from writing to talking. More than five minutes and it all gets a bit bombastic. His crossovers with Tucker at Fox were perfect, though.

Hope he recovers. A great warrior.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 3:52 pm

Nukes aren’t the answer. They have always been a distraction, a delaying gambit pushed by the fossil fuel lobby. No one in Australia treats them seriously.

The bolded bit is agitprop.

Big Fossil almost doesn’t give a toss about Australia’s electricity generation – and certainly isn’t advancing nuclear as some sort of delaying tactic to buy a few more years of domestic carbin-belching.

Obviously I am a slave of carbon and bound to say that; but take a quick look at the sources of coal for the major coal fired power stations:

Loy Yang – mine owned by AGL (which owns the power station);
Tarong – Meandu mine owned by Stanwell (which owns the power station);
Kogan Creek – Kogan Creek mine owned by CS Energy (which owns the power station);
Millmerran – Commodore mine majority owned by InterGen (which owns the power station);
Bayswater – coal mine owned by BHP, scheduled to close in 2030 along with the power station;
Eraring – buys coal from local export mines – power station scheduled to close in 2025.

That covers off the majority of the east coast coal fired generation: coal production either tied to the power station, or closing, or selling into the export market.

And gas?
Aren’t the gas producers top hat and monocle wearing cigar smokers, chortling at the windfall of selling to Australians via the gas turbine market?
Everyone says they are.

The highest value market for Australian gas is LNG export and that’s where most of it goes. Producers – and particularly the CSG producers – are not rapt in reserving, and spasmodically producing and selling gas at near cost of production.

These guys are not releasing the nuclear distraction squirrels.
Pinky promise.

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2023 3:53 pm

Introducing nuclear power to Australia will require bipartisan support and a boatload of explaining by people other than Top Men. Dropping a thought on the floor of Parliament, with details to come, is not the way a serious debate is raised.

But it has worked. For the first time in my (pretty ancient) memory, the topic is being seriously discussed.

The fight has only just begun, indeed. At least it is on the table, which it hasn’t been in living memory.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 3:59 pm

There are now sorority consultants helping young gals join a sorority. It’s the American way. The American middle class appears to be doing really badly when they’re forking out money to sorority consultants for their daughters attending state universities.
Get a load of this Texas gaggle learning they’re been accepted. Three dark haired among them. 🙂

The pandemic was already changing how women applied to the groups. Traditionally, recruitment involved a paper application and a week-long process known as “rush” during which sororities and applicants suss each other out in round after round of parties. During covid, rush at most universities went virtual. Without the chance to impress in person, women had to make sure they looked even more amazing on paper – only the most sparkling resumés and letters of recommendation would do. Some sororities asked for video statements, even essays.

Despite the easing of covid restrictions, the application process remains more demanding and complicated than it used to be. Enter the sorority consultants, a growing band of women whom parents can hire to coach their daughters on how to get into the sisterhood of their choice. Wallach, the woman filming rush, is one such consultant. At the University of Texas to enjoy the fruit of her labours, she Ubered between sorority houses, receiving clammy hugs and well-wishes from her ecstatic clients.

Wallach (pictured below), had been informally shepherding friends’ daughters through sorority recruitment for years. But during the pandemic her phone “rang off the wall”, she said. “People were freaking out: ‘everything’s going virtual, we don’t know what to say, what to do’,” She teamed up with a friend to launch a company, which they called Sorority 101. For between $500 and $1,800, depending on how much shepherding girls require, they teach applicants what to wear and what to say. (This is relatively cheap. One consultant I spoke to charges up to $4,000.) This year, said Wallach, they coached over 120 women.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2023 4:00 pm

Go to iinet.
They do what they say they will do, when they say they will do it

Until you want to set up WiFi and a mesh web at home with a decent WiFi modem.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2023 4:04 pm

Wallach (pictured below), had been informally shepherding friends’ daughters through sorority recruitment for years. But during the pandemic her phone “rang off the wall”, she said. “People were freaking out: ‘everything’s going virtual, we don’t know what to say, what to do’,” She teamed up with a friend to launch a company, which they called Sorority 101. For between $500 and $1,800, depending on how much shepherding girls require, they teach applicants what to wear and what to say. (This is relatively cheap. One consultant I spoke to charges up to $4,000.) This year, said Wallach, they coached over 120 women.

It could be worse.

“Dear, our daughter and I have decided we want to do dressage…”

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2023 4:09 pm

The death of an elderly man who took a voluntary assisted dying substance prescribed for someone else is being investigated by Queensland health authorities.
Key points:

Queensland’s VAD laws came into effect in January this year
Voluntary assisted dying is legal in almost every state in Australia
In the first six months of the laws operating in Queensland, 591 people started the process

The case, detailed in the first annual report by the Voluntary Assisted Dying (VAD) Review Board, is the subject of a review by Queensland Health, with the findings to be referred to the Coroner.

The rest of the article is about the many and rigorous checks and balances.

Nothing to see here …

Kneel
Kneel
September 25, 2023 4:11 pm

“Until you want to set up WiFi and a mesh web at home with a decent WiFi modem.”

No ISP will help you do such a thing.
Mesh networks are chancy and slow things in the first place and I can’t imagine why you’d want to use a Wi-Fi based mesh network – have a look at ethernet over power instead. It’s off the shelf and works quite well unless you have some very noisy equipment being powered up – it’s not perfect, but it’s way better than a Wi-Fi mesh! If you must have a large area Wi-Fi and not run a lot of cables, I can only suggest ethernet over power and Apple Wi-Fi access points (which do hand-off between themselves flawlessly, unlike most others).

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 4:14 pm

“Dr Faustus
Sep 25, 2023 3:52 PM”

Thank you. I always appreciate your measured responses.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 25, 2023 4:15 pm

Min, thanks for the info about the Montepulciano woman who wrote The Merchant of Prado. That book lies firmly in my memory for it was the only book my first husband and I had on our spontaneous marriage in Darwin then honeymoon via TAA in Portuguese Timor. We met up with a group of young travellers coming down from the trans Asia route from Europe as we ended up staying in a Dili hotel with them all waiting for our plane back to Darwin. We had tinned cheese and biccies which drew in the crowd every arvo with their vino and they asked me to read to them in English, so we’d do a chapter or two of The Merchant of Prado.

Sadly, we can’t stay here longer if we are to keep to Hairy’s schedule of Northern Italy and some of Austria before our cruise, and yes, we did go firstly to La Speza and the ‘tyrol’ there, then on the autostrada to Tuscany. Easy driving.

Tinta, thinking of you, you Italian girl, and your cooking. Also Top Ender you would be able to spend a couple of weeks in this region most productively, and a car is the only way to go. We’d advise staying in an Agritourismo rather than a hotel (they are on Booking.com and similar to airbnb). The GPS system here is pretty good, it’s just we didn’t use it to find the Chapel, relying on the map on Hairy’s ipad, and me, which was the point of failure.

I am sitting outside in the cool of the morning at the marble table on the terrace as the day starts up and where the internet is better than inside. Hairy is still sleeping off what I see here was a shameful rugby loss last night. I hauled into bed early and missed it. I have his light jacket over my knees for extra warmth and the huge shaggy hound just bounded up to say the happiest of good mornings, poking his nose on the collar of Hairy’s jacket and slobbering all over it. I guess it will wipe off so I’d better do it now. Best to all Cats and Kittehs, I see the yes vote still declines, fingers crossed.

Robert Sewell
September 25, 2023 4:18 pm

Kneel:
Kneel

Sep 25, 2023 3:47 PM
Go to iinet.
They do what they say they will do, when they say they will do it.
I have never had an issue with them – not once in 5+ years.

Just checked my BP:
185/110.
You’re right – this stuffing around is doing me no amount of good.
Signed up with iiNet.
Panadol x2 for headache. Having a cuppa and a lie down.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 4:20 pm

Sadly, we can’t stay here longer if we are to keep to Hairy’s schedule of Northern Italy and some of Austria before our cruise

Surely not! I would’ve thought you had learned your lesson last time with cruises. You were almost locked out of the country for a couple of years.

Spinning Mouse
Spinning Mouse
September 25, 2023 4:26 pm

YES ain’t doing very well, but then again, I suspect that YES will be decimated in QLD and WA.

Cheery No voter here in Qld. Looking forward to crushing Yes hopes on behalf of the nation.

It’s hard to find a Yes voter in my circles. Only dreamers and Kiwis.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2023 4:30 pm

johanna
Sep 25, 2023 3:53 PM
Introducing nuclear power to Australia will require bipartisan support and a boatload of explaining by people other than Top Men. Dropping a thought on the floor of Parliament, with details to come, is not the way a serious debate is raised.

But it has worked. For the first time in my (pretty ancient) memory, the topic is being seriously discussed.

The fight has only just begun, indeed. At least it is on the table, which it hasn’t been in living memory.

Not quite beyond living memory.

Under Coff Witless, RFX Connor was planning to introduce the full nuclear fuel cycle to Australia – mining, processing, enrichment, conversion to fuel, power reactors, re-processing of expended fuel to produce lots of lurvely plutonium.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 4:37 pm

The Liars and the Greens would never support nuclear energy. And, I also believe it would have to be bipartisan. Just imagine the angst being created by the Liars and Greens if the Libs went it alone.

The green-slime have an ideological bent against nuclear energy and like the Liars, I would bet they receive a ton of donations from the renew ball lobby.

The liars have the unions backing renew ball because it’s hugely more labor intensive, which means more jobs for the boys.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
September 25, 2023 4:37 pm

Russia has destroyed two more Leopard II’s. Big deal I hear you say.
The main part of the story is what was inside.

It appears, that having run out of Ukrainians, they are now using other nationalities.
Again, ….., big deal. Poles were killed last June in Donetsk.

Problem here is, these “Ukrainians” were German. Not “mercenaries”, but Bundeswehr troops. Cant wait for Scholz to explain that one, because Germany is still trying to negotiate a gas deal with the Muscovites.

Given that the Mammy Singer has promised to send Canuck Pilots, to “train” the Ukrainian Air Force, it won’t be too long before we see them paraded before the Russian press, should they be lucky enough to survive the missile impact, of course.

None of this, is the collective West escalating the conflict though, ……, far from it.
Just like sending depleted Uranium shells, or cluster munitions, is not escalating.

The puppet clown visited Canada yesterday where he and the Mammy Singer burst into applause for a 98 year old ex German soldier, who was guest of honour at a dinner.
Oh, did I mention this bloke was an SS soldier.
Heart rending stuff!

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 4:37 pm

Re Thorium. My understanding is that Australia has significant deposits of Thorium.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2023 4:39 pm

Speaking of travelling and bat-flu, we were not asked once for any vaccination proof in our 2.5 months in Europe.

As in Oz, all of the screens and shields have come down, and the only trace of the great panic was the occasional poster which had not been removed.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 4:41 pm

Attended a talk by Jacinta in a local town today. She is astonishing. She talked for over an hour without notes & commanded the complete attention of over 100 people. She is smart, empathetic, funny, & super articulate. She is an absolute weapon for the Nationals. She easily countered a couple of Yes protagonists with facts and conviction. I told David Littleproud to look after her because she is their best asset.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2023 4:42 pm

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Kneel
Sep 25, 2023 4:11 PM

“Until you want to set up WiFi and a mesh web at home with a decent WiFi modem.”

No ISP will help you do such a thing.

Maybe you misunderstand what I am trying to say, perhaps I called something the wrong name.

They quite literally give you a modem that is incompatible with the same branded WiFi range extenders. Except it is not really incompatible.

It is locked by software and a password. It’s just bureaucratic buggery. Old passwords did float around on the Whirlpool forums.

They quite literally make this difficult for no reason at all.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 4:46 pm

Further to the talk by Jacinta today:

I was super impressed by the questions from the 100 strong audience in this old coal mining town. All very informed and very appreciative of her bravery and common sense. One remarked that she gave the finest speech he had ever heard a politician give. I thought I saw our dreadful local member (State), Paul Toole, winch.

cohenite
September 25, 2023 4:47 pm

The liars have the unions backing renew ball because it’s hugely more labor intensive, which means more jobs for the boys.

That’s not the reason head prefect; the union bosses support ruinables because they receive $13 billion in direct subsidies per year; there’s a lot of industry super in the ruinables and that government subsidy comes straight back at them. It’s a classic ponzi scheme which doesn’t give a rats for the workers having affordable or any power.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 4:50 pm

It should be kept in mind that not all unions are anti-nuke.
The AWU has been at times somewhat vocal about their support for generating power via nuclear plants.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 4:52 pm

That too, Cronkite.

Lee
Lee
September 25, 2023 4:53 pm

And the “Teals” are NOT true independents, rather they’re a cult, a cult funded by a creepy Svengali.

True independents don’t take the government’s side (when it’s Labor)every time, like the Teals.

Are they or are they not opposed to the Covid inquiry broadened to include the states, and if so why are the Teals covering for them?

And didn’t the Teals block attempts to make Albo’s government more transparent?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 4:57 pm

But it has worked. For the first time in my (pretty ancient) memory, the topic is being seriously discussed.

The fight has only just begun, indeed. At least it is on the table, which it hasn’t been in living memory.

It’s been on the table quite often – to varying degrees. Angus Taylor got a parliamentary inquiry going in 2019 which (although sneered at) directed towards SMR’s, Victoria and SA have had state reviews in the past few years.

The Howard Government held the Switkowski review in 2006 – which went nowhere because the comparative cost of nuclear was 20% to 50% higher against coal fired energy. Ironic that nuclear was bagged out the next year by Mr Moral Challenge Rudd as hopelessly uneconomic at $60-80/MWh.

Speedbox
September 25, 2023 4:59 pm

JC
Sep 25, 2023 4:37 PM
The Liars and the Greens would never support nuclear energy. And, I also believe it would have to be bipartisan. The liars have the unions backing renew ball because it’s hugely more labor intensive, which means more jobs for the boys.

Yeah, it’s all very interesting. I think a quick poll on the Cat would overwhelmingly favour nuclear energy against renewables any day of the week. I would definitely be in that group. The ban on using nuclear in this country has always bewildered me.

But, the assorted Greens and anyone leaning even slightly Left would likely be implacably opposed. The MSM could be relied upon to to fan the flames of dissent – especially if the Libs proposed a nuclear plan. The protests would be substantial and almost certainly violent. A fight to the philosophical death so to speak.

Yet, the sharemarket has been pumping up the prices in Uranium miners for the past few months (and especially the last few weeks) based off increasing uranium prices. I get that – uranium ore is sure to be in short supply over the next 5 to 10+ years but the share prices seem to have a hefty speculative element. So, what do you think is going on? Are the punters also having a bet that nuclear energy will be a viable option, in time, for Australia (and elsewhere)? Or is this purely on the back of speculated shortages? Or both?

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 25, 2023 5:01 pm

circles. Only dreamers and Kiwis.

All the Kiwis I know are firmly no. Seen what First Nations preferences have done to Unzud

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 5:06 pm

And the “Teals” are NOT true independents, rather they’re a cult, a cult funded by a creepy Svengali.

The Teals are inner city property millionaires who also happen to be doctrinaire Marxists.

The reason they’re hysterical and religious about “climate change” is that it’s a cudgel that can be used to destroy the capitalist free market with big government subsidies.

For the Teals, high electricity prices are water off a duck’s back that affect other people — i.e., the working class and the poor.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 5:11 pm

Russia has destroyed two more Leopard II’s.

I think the first Abrams are arriving this week. Interesting to see how they go against modern Russian armour and AT. It’s reminiscent of all those old seventies wargames.

The Ukies received some Leopard 1s from Germany last week. It was amusing.

Ukraine rejects defective Leopard 1 tanks from Germany after finding ‘serious faults’ (21 Sep)

I suppose Germany has shonky used car, er, tank salesmen like every country does.

P
P
September 25, 2023 5:19 pm

Thanks Vicki for your report on Jacinta’s speech today.

My son and grandson were more than impressed by her speech at Blacktown Workers Club recently. According to my son attendance was 500 to 600 persons.

Grandson was unhappy because he was unable to get a pic of her with him. She had to leave straight after her speech because she wasn’t feeling well and was due to be in to be in Adelaide the next day.

Son and grandson both in awe of Jacinta Price.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 5:24 pm

“Vicki
Sep 25, 2023 4:41 PM”

Thanks Vicki, Jacinta is such a star, we’re lucky to have her. As I’ve said before her, on 14 October 2023 this country has a stark choice, we can either choose the Marcia Langton road, or we can choose the Jacinta Price road.

I choose the Jacinta Price road.

Jorge
Jorge
September 25, 2023 5:31 pm

Malinauskas in SA has made vaguely supportive noises re nuclear and his state faces an impossible situation. Give it more time. The only way it can happen though is if Labor gets behind it. Blackouts, shutdowns, lives lost, emergencies will change minds.

Spinning Mouse
Spinning Mouse
September 25, 2023 5:31 pm

Only dreamers and Kiwis.

All the Kiwis I know are firmly no. Seen what First Nations preferences have done to Unzud

The Kiwis I know are public servants or doctor’s wives. Agreed, the latter two descriptions are more relevant than their country of origin.

Lee
Lee
September 25, 2023 5:33 pm

And the “Teals” are NOT true independents, rather they’re a cult, a cult funded by a creepy Svengali.

And so “independent” they contested only Liberal-held seats, not Labor ones.

P
P
September 25, 2023 5:33 pm

re Jacinta –

In talking today to my son he mentioned her speech and said ‘this is what a leader sounds like’

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 5:38 pm

So, what do you think is going on? Are the punters also having a bet that nuclear energy will be a viable option, in time, for Australia (and elsewhere)? Or is this purely on the back of speculated shortages? Or both?

So, what do you think is going on? Are the punters also having a bet that nuclear energy will be a viable option, in time, for Australia (and elsewhere)? Or is this purely on the back of speculated shortages? Or both?

Speedbox, it’s probably both. I’ve lost money every time I’ve played in that sandbox. It has always disappointed. I’ve taken some longs over the past 15 years to see the price go up, and then I watch it head down in misery. The last time was F.ckishima. I was long, and then the plant went kaboom, and so did my position. I haven’t played since then.

There’s no real shortage of crap, from what I understand.

My tribal lands, I’m from the aboriginal tribe hailing from Olympic Dam, have a huge deposit there and are in fact the largest in the world.

Just kidding about the tribal lands bullshit.

The Olympic Dam deposit in South Australia is the largest uranium deposit in the world, containing more than 2 million tonnes of uranium oxide.

I don’t think there’s been a great deal of exploration over the decades because nuclear energy wasn’t generally allowed to take off around the world in a big way.

According to scientific American

If the Nuclear Energy Agency (NEA) has accurately estimated the planet’s economically accessible uranium resources, reactors could run more than 200 years at current rates of consumption.

As you know, it’s the capital expenditure, and therefore things like maintenance and deprecation of equipment go into pricing nuclear energy, while the fuel is a relatively minor cost factor.

If the cost of the build could come down, it would materially impact the cost of energy production. if we began to use scaled reactors instead of bespoke, the economic cost of the fuel could rise, and we’d still be better off.

Look, it’s probably a good bet, but I’m not touching on past experience.

This ETF began trading in February of this year. It’s up from US$10 to US$11.20. Now it’s gone up, but not massively so.

This EFT has been around longer, and this year it’s risen by about 30%.

This is an example of the problem of investing in speculative commodities.

Take this stock. SQM (Sociedad Química y Minera de Chile) SQM is the biggest and most cost-efficient lithium producer in the world. You’d think the stock would be a raving buy now.

Look at the performance over the past, say, five years. It began 2018 at around US$45, went wildly up to US$113.30 in 2022, and is now languishing at $56.80. even though there’s decent demand for lithium-based batteries.

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2023 5:41 pm

JC
Sep 25, 2023 3:26 PM

I know, It’s the Economist, but it’s an interesting observation.

Some of the easiest languages to learn for an English speaker

Requires about 24-30 weeks

Danish, Dutch, French, Italian, Spanish. Romanian, Swedish.

The hardest: Requires about 88 weeks

Arabic, Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin.

I’m pretty fluent in Mandarin.

Rubbish. See the award-winning website about how difficult it is to be good at Dutch.

It’s deceptive, because many words and phrases are very similar. Indeed, many aphorisms and common sayings are the same. Common history and culture.

But, oh dear.

Dutch for Beginners: A Warning

by Stuart · October 12, 2012
Dutch for Beginners

There is no other sentence in the whole of the Dutch language that will get you into more trouble than, “Ik spreek een klein beetje Nederlands.”

In the beginning it might seem harmless enough. After all it is just a polite way of warning the Dutch what kind of conversation they are letting themselves in for when they try to communicate with you. What could be wrong with that? It even shows a willingness to learn the language.

Maybe it is the first Dutch sentence you learn. Maybe you even start using it to open every conversation with every Dutch person you meet and in the beginning they will most likely appreciate your attempts to speak their difficult language.

But then it slowly starts to happen…

and

Life is full of mysteries. Who are we? Why are we here? Did I leave the oven on? Great big mysteries that are difficult to solve and keep a lot of very intelligent people busy.

However, there is a mystery that is bigger than any mystery ever pondered! Larger than any question ever asked! More infinite than any puzzle ever puzzled! Many people have attempted to solve this mystery and been driven insane by it. It is simply cannot and will not be solved… What is the correct usage of de and het in the Dutch language?

The true meaning of life will be solved long before anyone even comes close to solving this unsolvable mystery.

He refers to the use of ‘de’ and ‘het’ which are the rough equivalents of ‘the’ in English.

At first it is all very simple. ‘De’ is used for masculine and feminine words, where as ‘Het’ is used for neutral words. That’s it. How hard can it be?… But then they remember that one occasion where the rule does not work… and then that other one where it does not apply… and another where it is invalid…

Speaking idiomatic Dutch is not easy, one of the reasons why so many speak English. A practical culture.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 5:44 pm

That’s why it’s called Double Dutch, Joh.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 5:44 pm

What would this involve?

Just about everything he’s touched.

Not in any order

Not threatening entrepreneurs unless they toe the party line. Stop the stupid aggression around the world and try to play nice. Promise that at some stage in the not too distant future they will have free elections. Allow the currency to float and if it means huge outflows so be it. Stop the bullshit social credit system. And apologize to his people for being a complete piece of shit. You could think of more.

Basically Dover, he would have to dismantle almost the entire edifice of the fascist system that’s been created under his watch. Won’t happen.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 5:48 pm

Textor vewwy angwy.

Following the latest Newspoll published by The Australian, which showed support for the voice falling to 36 per cent and Peter Dutton’s approval ratings at record lows, Mr Textor said on Facebook: “So poll murder-suicide confirmed. No electoral benefit in being a “no” wrecker, worse it’s just sure death. As I predicted.”

Finding out that the “don’t matters” are about to kill off his vehicle to justify pushing the Libs further left.

Jorge
Jorge
September 25, 2023 5:48 pm

Ukrainian must be pretty easy.

Liam Neeson uses it fluently against his daughter’s abductors.

And John Wick gives those gangsters what for.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 5:51 pm

At first it is all very simple. ‘De’ is used for masculine and feminine words, where as ‘Het’ is used for neutral words.

How DARE you assume the gender of words. And objects.

The horror!

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 5:52 pm

On Sky News, News Corp’s designated ALP media supporter Joe Hildebrand says Uncle Luigi isn’t being hurt politically by the collapse in public support for the apartheid referendum because he’s “governing from the centre”.

Bwahahahaha.

I have no doubt that Elbow will go down with the referendum, on which he has staked 100% of his political capital. The only question is when the faceless men will eject him and hand the leadership to the nearest female to take the fall for the party at the next election — i.e., the Slovenian Hag.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 5:54 pm

Okay, Johanna.

All double dutch to me. You should complain as the dude calls himself the resident language writer at the Economist.

Which languages take the longest to learn?
A lesson by Johnson, our language columnist

[email protected].

Go ahead, give the pricks a decent serving like you do here at times. Then come back and tell us what they say.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 5:55 pm

I have no doubt that Elbow will go down with the referendum, on which he has staked 100% of his political capital.

Nah. It’s the Elbo Concordia. Not the Titanic.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 5:55 pm

Speedbox.

The way to play it, if you choose is trade squeezes.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 5:57 pm

Although it will Costa Lotta.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 6:00 pm

JC

Sep 25, 2023 5:54 PM

Okay, Johanna.

All double dutch to me. You should complain as the dude calls himself the resident language writer at the Economist.

Which languages take the longest to learn?
A lesson by Johnson, our language columnist

Talking two different things.
Economist guy was probably talking about a medium level of proficiency.
Johanna was talking about little nuances and inflections which you only “get” if you are immersed in the culture.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 6:04 pm

Which languages take the longest to learn?

I’m not sure what they speak in Northern England, but it must take generations to understand let alone learn how to speak it.

Rosie
Rosie
September 25, 2023 6:06 pm

Oppenheimer got himself proficient in Dutch in five weeks, didn’t he?

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2023 6:08 pm

I’m not sure what they speak in Northern England, but it must take generations to understand let alone learn how to speak it.

Try Glasgow Scottish then. Even harder and harsher.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 6:09 pm

feelthebern

Sep 25, 2023 6:04 PM

Which languages take the longest to learn?

I’m not sure what they speak in Northern England, but it must take generations to understand let alone learn how to speak it.

Just as well they have nothing important to say, then.
Just complaints about the weather, the food and Torries.
Not missing anything.

Speedbox
September 25, 2023 6:10 pm

JC
Sep 25, 2023 5:38 PM

Thanks for that. I’m not in the uranium sandbox either but like others, have noticed the uptick recently, particularly Boss Energy (BOE) which has rocketed up from $2.91 to $4.73 in less than 8 weeks. Typically, it has been in the $2-2.50 range for the past couple of years (and before that wallowing around 70c-$1.

Boss are active in Olympic Dam region and to be fair, there are other factors, but there also seems to be air of FOMO with some of the punters and uranium stocks. All very curious. Even IF nuclear energy got the green light tomorrow, it would be 10-15 years before the first reactor started pumping out the good stuff. We don’t even have the regulatory framework for domestic nuclear power (much less the workforce to build it, engineers to run it…….).

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 6:12 pm

Just complaints about the weather,

Reminded me of an English league player from 20 years back who said Blackpool was better than Bondi.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 6:12 pm

Daily Mail.

Sophia Loren, 89, is rushed to hospital for emergency surgery after suffering a bad fall at her home in Geneva

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 6:13 pm

Oppenheimer got himself proficient in Dutch in five weeks, didn’t he?

Dutch isn’t a language – it’s a throat condition.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 6:14 pm
calli
calli
September 25, 2023 6:15 pm

Which languages take the longest to learn?

I was told that the form of archaic German spoken by the Amish in Pennsylvania is difficult.

A barrier to “the English”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2023 6:15 pm

Roger Moore dead.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 6:18 pm

Institute of Afrikaans Accent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNJVMJH5OhI

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 6:20 pm

Oppenheimer got himself proficient in Dutch in five weeks, didn’t he?

I think Indolent put up a link to a Heinrich Schliemann doco the other day.
Schliemann could learn a language in six weeks, and he was living in the late 19thC with fewer resources. Amazing guy.

Lee
Lee
September 25, 2023 6:21 pm

On Sky News, News Corp’s designated ALP media supporter Joe Hildebrand says Uncle Luigi isn’t being hurt politically by the collapse in public support for the apartheid referendum because he’s “governing from the centre”.

Yes, easily the most left-wing PM we’ve ever had is a centrist.

LOL.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 6:22 pm

Roger Moore dead.

Shocking news.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 25, 2023 6:24 pm

Zulu,
That’s what my uroma used to say, but when given a chance would drop into Platt Deutsch at the drop of a hat.

For mine Swabian or Barbarian dialects are tough to learn. Little things like “Guess Gott” instead of “Guten morgen/tag/abend”. For a real challenge try saying “unangenehm” (unpleasant) using the Swabian argot. After 3 months I got close, but was still picked as northern German.

Surely the Masai language would be the toughest with the clicks.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 6:28 pm

Surely the Masai language would be the toughest with the clicks.

Xhosa?

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 6:30 pm

feelthebern
Sep 25, 2023 6:22 PM

Roger Moore dead.

Shocking news.

He died twice then. That’s a first, although Jesus comes to mind.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 6:31 pm

I was told that the form of archaic German spoken by the Amish in Pennsylvania is difficult.

German isn’t a language – it’s a trial to see how long you can gargle without spitting.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 6:32 pm

A billion pounds of Spam is a very Pythonish concept.

“Spam Strike” Looms After Hormel Minnesota Workers Reject Contract Offer (25 Sep)

Meatpacking workers at Hormel Foods’ plant in Austin, Minnesota, voted to reject a “final offer” contract last week in a push for stronger wages, setting the stage for a potential strike at the processor’s largest facility.

The Austin plant is the largest of Hormel’s manufacturing locations, employing 1,800 people and producing more than 1 billion pounds of Spam, pepperoni and other food items each year.

Spam, wonderful spam!

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 6:34 pm

English South African’s use the word ‘shame’ with annoying frequency. For the most trivial things.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2023 6:35 pm

For mine Swabian or Barbarian dialects are tough to learn

Yep.

However, and for mine it’s Jive, as practised by the cast of Airplane! when dealing with language-challenged hosties.

cohenite
September 25, 2023 6:38 pm

And there it is:

Woke James Bond Novels Replace Him With Disabled Black Gay Superspy and Pakistani Muslim 009

Thor now a sheila, superboy taking it up the arse; what next: the Hulk a trannie.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
September 25, 2023 6:38 pm

Diogenes, “Grüß Gott” is Hochdeutsch. The Bavarian version is Griaß di” and the farewell is “Pfiat di”.

German grammar is difficult because in a lot of situations the word order in a sentence doesn’t really matter, but the correct case is essential. It’s taken me long enough but I finally get Akkusativ, Dativ and Genitiv cases and when they’re used.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2023 6:39 pm

Classics!

Peter Santenello:

Invited To Amish Dinner

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
September 25, 2023 6:40 pm

Just imagine the angst being created by the Liars and Greens if the Libs went it alone.

If I was running the joint, i’d open up every front. They love to focus on a single issue, so give em twenty. They’d have to split their tears, pearls and spit all over the country, and would simply assume all issues were on the table at once.

You see, you don’t have to win to win. Just let Labor stop cheap electricity, or the Greens, or some obscure Aboriginal mob, or all of them at once to show Australians who the real enemies are.

Keep releasing rumours, policies and ideas and move on. Let the idiots chase shadows and burn their political capital while I sit back and watch them carry on like pork chops until everyone is sick of them and stop listening.

Then slash the cost of living and enjoy the glory. Then you toy with the bastards some more. Joh had the right idea about feeding the chooks, except instead of the media, feed the greenfilth and co. Surely any fool could play Adam Bandt like a fiddle.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 6:40 pm

Speedbox.

I just had a text conversation with an old mining pal lives in Europe now.

Me : Hi ///////, is there a lot of uranium in the world?

Mining Dude: Tons ( obviously thinks it’s a stupidly constructed question, but too polite to say)

Me: okay, but if the world really took off on nuke there would be no shortages of the stuff.

Mind dude: There will be a squeeze as it takes time

Me: okay.

Mining dude: The squeeze is already starting

Me: Okay.
But is there more use though or just speculative plays?

Mining Dude: Anticipation

Me: oh, first in and then first out

Mining Dude: The Europeans are definitely going. It’s just a question of lead time for new reactors now. I have friends that have been massively buying physical uranium

They are deep in the money at this stage

Me: Okay thanks.

He knows the dudes in Switzerland who are huge players in commods.

Take the conversation as you like.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 6:40 pm

Suggestion over on the “Daily Mail.” “We had “burn your bra days in the 1970’s. If the referendum fails, can we make Oct 15th, burn your “YES” T-shirt day?”

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 6:42 pm

“tlhIngan Hol: qaStaHvIS wa’ ram loSSaD Hugh SIjlaH qetbogh loD”

This is inspiring.

P
P
September 25, 2023 6:42 pm

Dutch isn’t a language – it’s a throat condition.

My husband of 42yrs came to Australia with very little English in 1958 having lived in New Guinea as a Dutch Marine in the peace keeping force for two years previously.

Two words he never could master – Birthday and Vera.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
September 25, 2023 6:42 pm

Stop it, skier. Us Aussies have enough trouble with our own language, let alone some kraut gibberish.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 6:47 pm

Bother. I’m in Germany in a couple of months. Who knew it was so difficult?

Perhaps I’ll just point and flash Euros.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 25, 2023 6:49 pm

Amish you say…

https://youtu.be/oAtlVX1Z5t4?si=JFYICj1dMy-VArWn

Letter Kenny is an awesome show.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2023 6:50 pm

Good stuff bern, so I had to watch Air Afrikaans again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 6:53 pm

English South African’s use the word ‘shame’ with annoying frequency. For the most trivial things.

“This South Africa of ours will be a mighty country, when we restore the balance!”

“Restore the balance? How do you propose to do that?”

“By shooting two Africans and one Englishman every week, until we restore the balance!”

Much to Mme Zulu’s irritation, the joke teller was born in Rotterdam.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 6:53 pm

Everything that’s wrong with Rugby Australia:

Lyon: Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan has declared the match against Wales the country’s most important game since the 2015 final against New Zealand and offered some advice to critics: if you don’t like it, don’t watch.

No. I won’t. And my gifted, gallant grandsons won’t play.

Rugby in Australia is dead while this type of halfwit runs the joint.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2023 6:55 pm

Ireland must be odds-on favourites for the RWC 2023.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2023 6:55 pm

Fair to say Denver Broncos are rubbish bern.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 6:56 pm

I told David Littleproud to look after [Jacinta] because she is their best asset.

And those who are inclined to prayer should keep her in theirs.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 6:57 pm

Rugby in Australia is dead while this type of halfwit runs the joint.

Has been for a while at the official level.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 6:58 pm

Dead to me, that is.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 6:58 pm

Thanks. I don’t see much here that is particularly exceptional. I’m not aware of the particulars of the first beyond, say, that billionaire that went missing over a year ago.

That would have scared the crap out of the rest having a chilling effect. Also, the regime has taken a definite hard line with the business community, which is toe the line or else. In that environment, you lock down the hatch, make sure you’re a goodie two-shoes, and ask what you can do to help the regime. Business comes next.

Re 2, apart, possibly, from situation off their coast, I’m not sure what aggressive actions they’ve been involved in.

The Taiwan issue is pretty decent to not have. They threaten their neighbors, such as Japan, by threatening to use nuclear weapons if they dare intervene in a Taiwanese hot war. They claim to own islands in shared waters that don’t belong to them. They almost got into a hot war with India over freaking rocks. They’re acting like neighbors in Housos.

Re 3, I think we shouldn’t be telling other countries how to organize themselves politically.

No, but if China wants growth and they need lots and lots of it, they would need to move back towards a free market system, as the fascist model is bound to fail. The US and Europe are moving away from them, with India now being the big beneficiary. Already, Apple and Foxconn have begun to move operations to India.

Re 4, why would they emiserate themselves deliberately if that was a possibility? Re 5, same as 3, I don’t like it but that’s for them to work through.

Sure, it’s for them to work out. They ran a relatively liberal economic system until Xi got in, and now they don’t.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 7:01 pm

Economist guy was probably talking about a medium level of proficiency.
Johanna was talking about little nuances and inflections which you only “get” if you are immersed in the culture.

It’s the nuances and local formations that get you. After 40+ years away from the joint, even though I’m a frequent traveller there, I’m no longer a native speaker in Britain.

When I’m among family, discussing sleet and Torries and whinging about food, I sometimes find myself mentally composing and translating – as you do speaking a foreign language before you become immersed.

Tragically, my vestige accent plus an acquired Aussie twang leads Brit strangers to pick me as a Kiwi.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 7:02 pm

what next: the Hulk a trannie.

Your “cute owls” are hulk trannies so , what’s the complaint now, Cronkite?

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 7:02 pm

Yes Roger. The Beloved played at school, as did his father. Then the New Broom. From the moment he could lace up his boots.

The grandsons have been in the club game likewise. It’s a family tradition.

Now shat upon from on high.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 7:04 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 7:06 pm

And those who are inclined to prayer should keep her in theirs.

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/09/australia-keep-it-together.html

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 7:07 pm

Thanks. I don’t see much here that is particularly exceptional. I’m not aware of the particulars of the first beyond, say, that billionaire that went missing over a year ago.

Jack Ma went missing because he gave an off the record interview to Niall Ferguson.
Who then went back to the US & told all to Scott Galloway on a podcast.
His sin was referring to Xi’s support being from “Old New China” where as all the smarts & power was with “New New China”.

Boy oh boy, Xi did not like that.
Hence the disappearance.
And by his actions, Xi showed where the power was.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 7:08 pm

Ma: Knowledge is power.
Xi: Power is power.

May or may not have been a scene in Game of Thrones.

Speedbox
September 25, 2023 7:08 pm

JC
Sep 25, 2023 6:40 PM

Thanks again. I’m interested in uranium as a ‘buy’ ‘cos I think it should be the fuel of choice. But the rabid anti-nuclear gangs in Aust are a big problem and our path to nuclear (from today) will be decades long before one is operating here.

There is heaps of uranium ore and whether Aust goes nuclear or not will not have a big impact on future global supply insomuch as our requirements will be relatively small compared to the established nuclear countries who are all looking to build new additional reactors (some 60 or so full size reactors I understand). I read somewhere that there are a couple of hundred small research size reactors also planned.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 7:09 pm

Now shat upon from on high.

First you lose your church to them.

Then you lose your game.

But it’s very instructive as to how to order your affections properly.

Speedbox
September 25, 2023 7:14 pm

Should have added that my interest in buying uranium shares is not driven by whether Australia gets into the game or not. Just longer term global requirements. But the prices seem heated at present and I’m wary of the FOMO that seems in play with our local suppliers.

MatrixTransform
September 25, 2023 7:14 pm

so,

JC wants to reorganize the Chinese economy using a top-down approach?

and he’s inquiring about uranium?

and he’s mates with mUnty

… too many coincidences

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 7:14 pm

You are very grounded, Roger. I’m afraid I live in the glorious past of church rugby, oranges at half time and hospital and stitches for the remainder.

No more. Enough is enough.

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