Open Thread – Mon 25 Sept 2023


Morning, Overcast Day, Rouen, Camille Pissarro, 1896

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bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 7:20 pm

China’s threat is the left is using it as blueprint for population control.

Jorge
Jorge
September 25, 2023 7:27 pm

A 6b housing development in Kaurna country has been halted after remains were unearthed and it now seems its an old burial site. Going back 6,000 years.

‘How would they like it if we dug up their parents’ remains ?’

None of the objectors knew it was a burial site until recently but they all run around screeching as if they had personal acquaintance with the disinterred.

A lot of talk about wanting the spirits to have a happy life in the next world with friends you know, like nothing is different. The dead bet on the races and watch the football just like they did before, I suppose.

Scams like this are an appalling indictment of we stupid white people and our governments.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 7:27 pm

You are very grounded, Roger. I’m afraid I live in the glorious past of church rugby, oranges at half time and hospital and stitches for the remainder.

I do fondly recall those days, calli, especially the oranges!

When it was mum’s turn to launder the jerseys and hang them out on the line they appeared to me as like the battle flags hanging in the cathedral.

😀

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 7:30 pm
JC
JC
September 25, 2023 7:38 pm

Oh well, the site’s IQ just dropped below average. Fetterman’s back all tanked up ready to stoush.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 7:39 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Sep 25, 2023 6:15 PM

Roger Moore dead.

Well, I never!
You just drop it cold like that.

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 7:39 pm

Andrew Bolt is an intolerant clown who can’t stand anyone with a different opinion.

He might as well be a leftard.

MatrixTransform
September 25, 2023 7:45 pm

somebody attacked with a cream-bun?

a mUnty to the face

ample sweet buns, filled with creamy whiteness, big red streak of strawberry jam.

terrifying

MatrixTransform
September 25, 2023 7:49 pm

hi bespoke … s’up nerd-boy?

good to see you back

Brussels sprouts

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 25, 2023 7:49 pm

Roger Moore dead.

NNNNNOOOOoooooooooooo

WHY GOD………….WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 7:52 pm

Reading Nigel Biggar “Colonialism A Moral Reckoning.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 7:52 pm

Lyon: Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan

They recognised the problem.
There were too many Hamish’s, Dougald’s and Malcolm’s running the game.
Unfortunately they solved the problem by appointing a Raelene.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 7:52 pm

Brussels sprouts

How dare you!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 7:54 pm

Interesting chat about Uranium.
We’ll know it’s on when Trumble junior buys in.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 7:55 pm

Not sure it’s actually a fascist model. It is probably something closer to the economic system of most Western nations prior to WW2.

LOL!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2023 7:56 pm

Jacinta Price challenges PM to Voice debate

What a bully. Jacinta should pick on someone her own size.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 25, 2023 7:58 pm

Ok

Who down ticked the loss of the suave debonair lover of smokin hot women that was Roger Moore.

Show yourself Sirrah and expect a jolly good thrashing.

And a hearty rogering by some chap named Nigel that i met in the pub.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 7:58 pm

“Yesterdays oppressors were often the day before yesterday’s victims.
In a letter published in The Times some years before, a former British diplomat recounted a conversation he had had, shortly after Nigeria’s independence, with one of the country’s new rulers. The ruler was pressing the case for Britain to compensate the Nigerians for decades of colonial oppression. After listening intently, the diplomats turn to rely came. “I entirely agree,” he said. “And you shall have your compensation – just as soon as we get ours, from the Romans.” Page 278.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 7:58 pm

Unfortunately they solved the problem by appointing a Raelene.

Now people realise they were the good old days. Ah fear dere mae hae been a wee leprechaun’s fingers in haer.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2023 7:59 pm

All very informed and very appreciative of her bravery and common sense. One remarked that she gave the finest speech he had ever heard a politician give.

Sheer magnetism, darling.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2023 8:00 pm

But the prices seem heated at present and I’m wary of the FOMO that seems in play with our local suppliers.

Speedbox,

The ticker URNM ETF on the ASX has shareholdings in all the major global uranium miners, and mirrors the big kahuna Sprott URA ETF. It’s been pretty hot , up 60+% since March this year.

There is without doubt a looming supply of uranium but much of that news is already well priced in for now. (The situation in Niger also helps) And as they say the best cure for high prices are high prices. I suspect, like the gas/oil producers their valuations will next be repriced – up. Possibly way up. The next decent pull back 30%+ will be very interesting for me to add.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 8:01 pm

What a bully. Jacinta should pick on someone her own size.

Linda Burney?

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 8:01 pm

You’re not convincing me here.

I wasn’t trying. You asked for a response.

I had no idea until recently that the US’s Seventh Fleet was based in Japan. That it has two ther naval bases and 12 air bases surrounding China, in the Phillipines, Korea, and Japan. Beside the ongoing dispute over Taiwan, a lot of this looks like disputes that typically arise when a great power in concert with others is looking to contain another power.

China claims some very important waterways that a lot of nations in the region use. It would be negligent if the US didn’t take some action. If a lot looks like it’s a dispute between them for the reason you suggest it possibly is. I’m guessing that you’re suggesting the US should be doing less in the region?

In any event, if China wasn’t making all sorts of threats the US would have less of a reason to boost its presence north Asia.

Not sure it’s actually a fascist model. It is probably something closer to the economic system of most Western nations prior to WW2.

Are you including Italy, Germany and Spain in the mix.

Explain what you mean by that?

Would be interesting to look at comparatively. As for companies moving, probably has more to do with rising wages and strategic concerns in the future.

Probably both, but more to do with strategic concerns. I would imagine every single board of major US firms would be asking how is the firm ensuring their supply chains aren’t concentrated in China for the obvious reasons.

eb
eb
September 25, 2023 8:01 pm

Just watching Bolt, he was interviewing Esther Krakou. OMG, I may need some time to recover!

132andBush
132andBush
September 25, 2023 8:03 pm

What a bully. Jacinta should pick on someone her own size.

It would be the equivalent of DeSantis debating Biden.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 8:03 pm

Tom

Sep 25, 2023 7:39 PM

Andrew Bolt is an intolerant clown who can’t stand anyone with a different opinion.

Possibly one of the worst interviewers going around.
Just ask the question and STFU.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2023 8:07 pm

The next decent pull back 30%+ will be very interesting for me to add.

… I meant 30%+ of this years price increase in the ETF.

cohenite
September 25, 2023 8:07 pm

By popular demand, Monday’s cute owls. Not a dick in sight.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 8:08 pm

Uncle Wichetty Grub does Welcome to Country at the Brownlow at Crown Casino.
Acknowledging the traditional owners of the land … Allen’s Sweets.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 8:10 pm

Cheers Matrix.

cohenite
September 25, 2023 8:11 pm

I must say when kenny is talking about anything else than the screech he makes sense. He had a lot of fun with rub and tug’s Australia becoming a renewable super power. What sort of imbecile says that. I’m really starting to worry about Australia. It goes with out saying the liars are a bunch of retards but their poll numbers are still at their election win levels. There are a lot of stupid people in this shithole who still support them; and shithole it will be when the lights go out.

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 8:14 pm

FMD. An old white bloke just did a Welcome to Country at the AFL Brownlow Medal — not a 60,000-year-old tradition, but a fad invented in the 1970s by Ernie Dingo.

Fake culture for a race of nomads pretending to be scholars a la Bruce Pascoe, the ultimate carpet bagger.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
September 25, 2023 8:15 pm

German isn’t a language – it’s a trial to see how long you can gargle without spitting.

Whereas Norwegian is far simpler… it is a test of how long can go talk without taking a breath. That’s per word, just to be clear.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 8:17 pm

MfM

Someone once explained to me there are two languages in Norway.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 8:31 pm

I’m not sure what they speak in Northern England, but it must take generations to understand let alone learn how to speak it.

Arriving in Oz in 1967, 19 years old direct from the County Durham coalfields was a jaw breaker to discover after spending my entire life and being educated in GeordieLand that I didn’t, actually, speak English but used a dialect that no one else seemed to understand …… !

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 8:34 pm

I didn’t, actually, speak English but used a dialect that no one else seemed to understand …… !

I can relate, shatterzzz.

MatrixTransform
September 25, 2023 8:38 pm

I would imagine every single board of major US firms would be asking how is the firm ensuring their supply chains aren’t concentrated in China for the obvious reasons.

… because they’re all highly educated retards who’s pan-global plans are falling to pieces?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 8:46 pm

From the Hun.

Our people are hurting more now, I think, then you know, the George Floyd moment’, Lidia Thorpe says

Victorian Senator Lidia Thorpe has compared the referendum to the shocking death of an African-American man who was killed by a white police officer

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 8:49 pm

Someone once explained to me there are two languages in Norway.

Indeed there is two official languages.
(They seem quite similar to the outsider.)

Hence the paper money has a different name for the country on each side, many postage stamps have two country names.

And when watching an English language film in the cinema, there are two simultaneous sets of subtitles. (Seems to take up about one third of the screen.)

Frank
Frank
September 25, 2023 8:49 pm

Dutch isn’t a language – it’s a throat condition.

Arabic is mainly expectoration.

MatrixTransform
September 25, 2023 8:55 pm

back in the day,

a j’ismist I know actually rang the Tampa

and started talking Norwegian to the Captain

took a while for the Cap to get his head around it all before he responded “wtf?’

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 8:55 pm

The problem with Rugby Australia is that it went woke.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 8:57 pm

a j’ismist I know actually rang the Tampa
and started talking Norwegian to the Captain

Crikey, their English is better than in Anglosphere countries.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
September 25, 2023 9:00 pm

Someone once explained to me there are two languages in Norway.

True.

English and Norwegian. Also, apparently, a dialect up north which is related to Lapp, I think. I never got exposed to that… not much call for that in insurance software!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 9:01 pm

“And you shall have your compensation – just as soon as we get ours, from the Romans.” Page 278.

Could have lessons for any demands for reparations under a treaty?

“You want reparations? Sue the British Crown!”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 9:07 pm

Apalech elder Phyllis Yunkaporta, who at 61 lives in a house with four other adults and six children under 10, said she would be among the first in line to vote Yes on Tuesday.

“When I was born, I was not an Australian citizen,” said Ms Yunkaporta, who was six when the 1967 referendum to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders as citizens was successful.

From the Australian. Same old bullsh!t!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 9:18 pm

Our people are hurting more now, I think, then you know, the George Floyd moment’, Lidia Thorpe says

Yup, the Voice is just like a criminal drug addict dying of a massive self-inflicted overdose. Does she even realize what she’s saying?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 9:27 pm

New Zealand Cops left red-faced after officer breath-tests passenger and not the driver at a checkpoint

Driver breath-tested, but all was not as it seemed
Third time car had been stopped over weekend

Seems the car was a 1964 Impala…….with left hand drive…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 25, 2023 9:46 pm

ABCcess as even handed as usual.
” Voices of Australia” covering the treaty of Waitangi in NZ and how wonderful it’s been…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 9:48 pm

Seems the car was a 1964 Impala…….with left hand drive…

Way back when, United States servicemen, posted to Australia, had the right, under certain conditions, to bring their cars with them.

One young Yankee bloke was having a night out, in the mess, and, come time to go home, being well lubricated, threw the keys to his wife and told her she would be driving to their married quarter. She threw the keys back – she’d had enough of the drinking, he would be driving home and if he was busted, well that was his career down the pan.

So, they were pulled over on the way home, the cop walked up to the drivers door, handed the wife a breath-testing kit – she, being a non drinker, passed with flying colours – and the cop never noticed the absence of a steering wheel…

m0nty
m0nty
September 25, 2023 9:56 pm

Most of those Teals seats will be reclaimed by the Liberal Party at the next election. I suspect North Sydney, Wentworth, Goldstein and Curtin will be back in the Liberal fold.

If you think that is going to happen by magic with the LNP moving further right at the same time, Cranky, you are as foolish as they are.

The core Liberal electorate has clearly moved left on the climate change issue. You and the party can hope that it will go away by itself but, like the warming itself, things are only going to get worse.

Siltstone
Siltstone
September 25, 2023 9:56 pm

Many languages, if softly spoken, are easy on the ear. A Mongolian speaker appears to be rearranging spittle in the mouth. Sounds terrible as described, but hypnotic if muted.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2023 10:11 pm

Sticking the boot into Wikipedia.

—-

Mark Dice:

It All Makes Sense Now

cohenite
September 25, 2023 10:14 pm

test

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 10:15 pm

I’ll keep it simple for our resident pervert apologist…..

Pluck off.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 10:17 pm

Did you punch any Nazis today pervert apologist?

cohenite
September 25, 2023 10:18 pm

You’re a moron dickless. AGW was disproved in 2007 when the Judgment in the Gore movie case was handed down dismissing all the alleged consequences of AGW depicted in the garbage movie as non-existent or exaggerated and alarmist. The best alarmist scientists (sic) were involved in this movie.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 10:19 pm

This would be the street fair where you can see grown men fucking each other on the streets like dogs and if you’re feeling hot you can jump in a kiddy pool and have a man piss on you.

The days of wearing flowers in your hair, in San Francisco are long gone, then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P57vbIZfYGw

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 10:26 pm

I’ll keep it simple for our resident pervert apologist…..

Pluck off.

I thought you a lady, Cassie, completely unaware of the existence of such words, let alone be able to spell them….another youthful illusion, rudely shattered..

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 10:28 pm

Sort of depends upon the legitimacy of the claims or counter-claims.

I’ve never heard of any historical claims and don’t believe these ownership claims carry any international legitimacy. In fact, China’s said they don’t recognize any laws pertaining to the law of the sea in the disputed region in the South China Sea. I suppose we could go as far back as aboriginal claims of ownership too and consent to their demands. 🙂

This is just something you would typically expect from any country protecting its national interests that is not a cuck.

The national interest argument would apply to any country in the region, even those using the waterway for trade routes like Australia.

As to the latter, its not as if the US makes no threats itself.

Protecting sea lanes to assist in trade and keep the peace has been a hallmark of US foreign policy since the birth of the US Navy. It’s been a benign policy that appears to have benefited the world, especially since ww2. You disagree?

Foreign affairs often involves the threat of force; that’s just the nature of the beast.

Okay.

Sure, but even the French, Brits, etc. were highly regulated economies. As I said, a comparative look would be very interesting.

There was a semblance of a fascist movement in economies between the war years. I don’t know much about what occurred in France, but the UK moved towards creating a welfare state. Is that what you’re referring to in the UK? The New Deal in the US would resemble something akin to fascism, but by about 1935, it was largely dead in the water.
I recall you sometimes writing about this in the old Cat. There was a collectivist movement in Europe and the US, particularly during and after the Great Depression.
Interestingly, I think we saw something similar in America after the financial crisis, which rose under the Kenyan, reared its ugly head during the Trump term through the deep state, and returned with a vengeance with the cadaver in the White House.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 10:29 pm

Did you punch any Nazis today pervert apologist?

Not if he’s posting on the cat.
One cannot type with broken fingers.
Voice recognition software won’t recognise speech if one’s teeth have been knocked out.
Ergo he didn’t punch anybody.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 25, 2023 10:32 pm

Yank version of ” where do you come from” with wobble bottom and victimologist Michael Moore.

Finds out an ancestor was sent to America as a convict labourer/ slave after a failed insurrection in Scotland. Did his 7 years before being released and settling in a town near Boston only to be slaughtered when Indians attacked the place.

Moores take on it…

” well it’s terrible how the settlers took over and made the Indians do that”

FMD.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2023 10:39 pm

Brownlow Medal is very tight. Any one of 5 blokes could win.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2023 10:43 pm

And it’s Lachie Neale ahead of Bontempelli to win his second medal.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
September 25, 2023 10:47 pm

Cue Carringbush supporters crying because either Neale got too many votes in the first half of the season or Daicos didn’t get enough.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 10:47 pm

thefrollickingmole
Sep 25, 2023 10:32 PM

Yank version of ” where do you come from” with wobble bottom and victimologist Michael Moore.

Moore and Fatboy are identical twins separated at birth.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 10:53 pm

If you think that is going to happen by magic with the LNP moving further right at the same time,

Moving further to the Right? The Libs? If only!

The core Liberal electorate has clearly moved left on the climate change issue.

More like brainwashing. If anyone believes the current policy will achieve anything other than misery, they need serious medical intervention on the couch and heavy-duty medication.

Fatboy, it’s sad to see you buying into this alarmist crap. It’s sad in the sense that you’re no longer able to distinguish between brainwashing propaganda and reality. It’s really done you in, and rather than beat you around the head, I actually feel a tinge of sadness for you.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2023 10:57 pm

I’m Collingwood and Daicos was never going to win it, particularly after his injury.
I had my dosh on Petracca.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 10:58 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 10:58 pm

Clearly whoever was live-blogging the Brownlow for the Oz had the put the farm on Daicos.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 10:59 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 11:00 pm

Black Ball

Sep 25, 2023 10:57 PM

I’m Collingwood and Daicos was never going to win it, particularly after his injury.
I had my dosh on Petracca.

As soon as I found out Eddie Everywhere and Tony Jones weren’t casting the votes I knew he wouldn’t win.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2023 11:04 pm

As soon as I found out Eddie Everywhere and Tony Jones weren’t casting the votes I knew he wouldn’t win.

Not sure they umpired a match. If ever.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 11:05 pm
Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
September 25, 2023 11:07 pm

If you think that is going to happen by magic with the LNP moving further right…

If one looks at the European experience over the past, say, 7 years, what the Libs ought to do – for the good of the nation – is to announce a complete change of direction. Be something like exactly the Alternative for Australia (AfA) as it were.

If “far right” policies like a repudiation/nuclearisation of the climate nonsense; a crackdown on welfare and – especially – NDIS rorting; a serious rethinking of “big Australia” generally and migration in particular; a long-overdue audit of education, health and indigenous spending; and, vitally, a thorough rethinking and audit of Defence aren’t popular, it would be good for Australia to know that.

For better for worse, they would help set the course. Isn’t that what HM’s Loyal Opposition is supposed to facilitate?

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 11:13 pm

Mark

I think those are excellent policy ideas and they’re also pretty big and very far reaching. You have to be a truly excellent speaker- great at articulation and response to challenge. I don’t think Dutton is any good at that. Howard, in his early years was excellent at being able to articulate a good story and push back.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 11:22 pm
JC
JC
September 25, 2023 11:48 pm

I don’t think you having not heard of them and them not existing is quite the same thing.

I meant both. They don’t exist for the most part.

Are you really trying to tell me they have no historical claim to the Spratly Islands?

Don’t know, but are you really trying to tell me they have a legitmate claim to most of the South China and by creating these fictitious islands it gives them a right to order commercial shipping around and the Navies navigating international waterways?

JC
JC
September 26, 2023 12:25 am

One other thing Dover, The UN convention,pertaining to the law of the sea, to which China is also a signatory, does not recognize the right of countries “to make claims based on historical legacy”. Also, these historical claims are bullshit at best.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 26, 2023 2:21 am

Daics couldn’t win after missing so many games from injury at the arse end of the season.

Not a bad effort though for a 20 year old in his second season running a close third.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 26, 2023 2:27 am

I was pretty pissed off though with the insipid AFL having the white uncle herpes lecturing us about welcome to my country.

When will they learn.

Gabor
Gabor
September 26, 2023 2:45 am

Barking Toad
Sep 26, 2023 2:27 AM

I was pretty pissed off though with the insipid AFL having the white uncle herpes lecturing us about welcome to my country.


When will they learn.

You got it the wrong way around.
When will we learn?

Gabor
Gabor
September 26, 2023 3:21 am

I recommend Adam Piggott’s latest about the Voice.
A different view.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 26, 2023 3:52 am

Surely not! I would’ve thought you had learned your lesson last time with cruises. You were almost locked out of the country for a couple of years.

JC, we’ve been on a Panama Cruise since then, the one that kicked us off in Mexico in 2020. The world is back to rights now, as Top Ender says, no screens in shops, no masks, and no vaxx certificates required in Italy which is a good proxy for Europe.

I got it wrong. Hairys said we were going through Bologna, not to Bologna. And around it we sped on the autostrada at 130kms average. We are actually now in Verona, where I will be looking around for Two Gentlemen. Plus Romeo and Juliet, who are of course, just as fictional but here nevertheless, in fact down the road from where we are staying near the Roman arena. A house with a balcony claims these starcrossed lovers as their own, and lovers from around the world leave notes there. Apparently. Will check it all out tomorrow. On a balcony myself ow with Hairy sharing a drink overlooking iron gates and a driveway to this property which is now various apartments, one of them ours for two days. They don’t supply cups or glasses (lucky I have some plastic ones) but there is an endless supply of coffee capsules and tiny cups for it. Main priority it seems.

Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
September 26, 2023 4:13 am

Advance notice that there’ll be no cartoons tomorrow as I’ll be in hospital for a scheduled minor plumbing operation. ‘Toons will be back on Thursday morning.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2023 4:16 am

Getting a few inches taken off Tom?

PeterM
PeterM
September 26, 2023 4:17 am

Thanks Tom – much appreciated.

And all the best for the plumbing

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2023 4:21 am

Thanks Tom for the Toons and hope all goes well for you tomorrow.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2023 4:24 am

Brand is back posting content on his Youtube channel.
No doubt the English bird who headed up that committee who sent the very stern letter will send another very stern letter.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2023 4:30 am

Listening to a bit of the Baris live stream.
He’s saying Fox is now all in on Haley & that this has occurred over the last 24 hours.
Wonder what has happened at Fox in the past few days to cause this.

@sarc

miltonf
miltonf
September 26, 2023 4:41 am

good luck Tom

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 26, 2023 5:03 am

All the best Tom with your plumbing procedure. Thanks for the toons, they make my day

Jorge
Jorge
September 26, 2023 5:06 am

Bests, Tom

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2023 5:24 am

The US government really dropped the ball.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/who-owns-the-most-satellites/

If it wasn’t for Elon Musk, China would dominate the orbital platforms.

Gabor
Gabor
September 26, 2023 5:30 am

eelthebern
Sep 26, 2023 5:24 AM

The US government really dropped the ball.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/who-owns-the-most-satellites/
If it wasn’t for Elon Musk, China would dominate the orbital platforms.

I don’t think the numbers matter, like the old adage, what matters is what you do with it and how you use it.

Sure there has to be enough to be useful.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2023 5:38 am

Most posters here would know I am a fan of organic foods.
More recently I have become concerned with the raw milk crowd trying to connect their universe to the organics universe.

I think the raw milk crowd need to learn that correlation is not causation.
Ie, if you live in a Brooklyn townhouse and introduce raw milk into your diet when your’e in your 30’s, your health outcomes will be different to the teenager on a Wisconsin dairy farm who has been raised on the stuff.
It’s not the raw milk you chumps!

MatrixTransform
September 26, 2023 5:54 am

I recommend Adam Piggott’s latest about the Voice.

and a single comment to Adam’s piece

points out that we’ve been Hegel-ed … who knew?

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 6:08 am

feelthebern
Sep 26, 2023 4:24 AM
Brand is back posting content on his Youtube channel.
No doubt the English bird who headed up that committee who sent the very stern letter will send another very stern letter.

Her husband is a retired reservist MAJGEN who was in charge of a political nudge unit, he’s a sitting life peer, a former Armed Services Secretary and former MP!

This is LITERALLY the establishment attacking Brand!

Eight days after the media campaign begins, the Met opens an investigation?

Lady Dinenage’s involvement with social media companies at least seems improper.

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 6:13 am

1. Xi is like Cersei. I liked Cersei because she was competent. But it’s like having a favourite Sopranos character. They all terrible.

2. Go Ireland!

3. My friend reckons Penrith Panther have a trans cheer leader? WTF!?

4. Monty’s plan to transform the LNP into the ALP will surely work as lifelong ALP voters will NEVER vote LNP and the ALP vote is shrinking anyway…appealing to a smaller and smaller base of people who hate you, surely this will work?

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 6:23 am

Forgive my ignorance, but the perceived difficulty of learning Russian is perception?

I mean once you’re fine with Cyrillic then you realise Russian is not far off other European languages.

If it used Latin script, would it be considered easier than French?

132andBush
132andBush
September 26, 2023 6:24 am

Monty @ 9:56pm

The core Liberal electorate has clearly moved left on the climate change issue.

Admitting it’s all about politics/ideology and nothing to do with science.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2023 6:26 am

I liked Cersei because she was competent.

I liked Cersei because she would always start a pants party.

h/t Brick.

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 6:28 am

It’s remarkable and amazing how the press has obsessively gone after Brand for four years BUT the Epstein client list is suppressed even at Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial and sentencing!

Brand would have been better off if he went to Epstein Island.

…and this sort of dishonest nonsense is why the little guy feels like everyone is lying, they start believing in conspiracies uncritically and assume their masters are all crooks or worse.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 26, 2023 6:30 am

Been told same a Cyrillic on the more tonal languages of East & South East Asia the key to the language is the alphabet.

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 6:36 am

Found this trying to see if the NRL has a tranny cheerleader.

The headline vs the narrative. From the NFL preseason, 2022.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/trans-cheerleader-kicked-out-of-camp-after-allegedly-choking-teammate/news-story/f8eaf4a49cd898e281f20b4d3c696b97

From the article inset:

Alarming rates of violence against trans-people

Wow!

Last week Averie Chanel Medlock, 25, was expelled from Ranger College cheerleading camp in Texas after she was alleged to have choked a 17-year-old female teammate, identified only as Karleigh.

“Well guys I’m officially retired as a cheerleader as of last night at 5:30am. A girl on the team was being very disrespectful and told me I am a MAN with a PENIS and that [guys] should not be on the team,” she wrote.

“I stood up for myself and she called her mom and dad because she was scared because I [stood] up for myself.

“Her father said, ‘She still has testosterone and a penis and I will kill anyone who comes after my daughter.’”

Absolutely incredible.

Where was the press hammering these two for abusing women and gaslighting people with threats of murder?!

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2023 7:37 am

In Canada now they give standing ovations to former SS guards.

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 7:41 am

Trudeau is beyond parody and protected by a friendly press the way the British monarchy once was.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2023 7:43 am

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 25, 2023 10:17 PM
Did you punch any Nazis today pervert apologist?

Beyond his physical capability here, and he couldn’t get to Canada to punch the 98 year old one there.

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 7:44 am

Another Malmo moments.

IKEA Farms am remembers.

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 7:47 am

feelthebern
Sep 26, 2023 4:30 AM
Listening to a bit of the Baris live stream.
He’s saying Fox is now all in on Haley & that this has occurred over the last 24 hours.
Wonder what has happened at Fox in the past few days to cause this.

I noticed that. Lachlan and Sarah must be desperate for Republicans to lose the next election so they can be invited to Manhattan dinner parties again. Lachlan is following the Warwick Fairfax game plan to the letter, let’s see how long it takes him to destroy the company.

Sadly Elon Musk will not be allowed to provide an alternative media outlet not controlled by the left. He will be made to choose between SpaceX and TwitterX and it looks like free speech will be dead on the launchpad.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2023 7:48 am

A former Waffen SS soldier honoured in a parliament.

The West in 2023.

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2023 7:48 am
Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 7:54 am

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 26, 2023 7:37 AM
In Canada now they give standing ovations to former SS guards.

Stiglich covered it this morning in his second cartoon. Maybe we had Trudeau all wrong, he’s not a communist, he’s a Nazi.

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2023 7:54 am

27-Year-Old Women’s Soccer Star Maddy Cusack Dies Suddenly

The cause of death was not revealed but, strangely, this article from July was linked at the bottom –

1,884 Athlete Cardiac Arrests in 2.5 Years, 1,310 Dead

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 7:55 am

I seem to have joined Calli’s thumbs down club, so be it.

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 7:57 am

Brand needs to fight back but even with his millions, I’m not sure he has enough to do what must be done.

He needs to attack, not nuclear like Bannon but real wrath of the Lord style.

The accusers, journos, investigators, politicians, tangential commentators and journalists who softball them, look into their past and their associates, bosses, underlings and family and crucify whomever he can if them if he finds anything adverse.

He needs to become Sama’el (the poison of God).

Now that’s nasty stuff but he could end up dead in a prison cell if he sits there and tries to debate people like Carl Benjamin.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 26, 2023 7:57 am

Well guys I’m officially retired as a cheerleader as of last night at 5:30am. A girl on the team was being very disrespectful and told me I am a MAN with a PENIS and that [guys] should not be on the team,”

Attempting to get my Vic Uniparty woke credentials approved. Is this where I label the girl a Nazi and deplatform her?

Makka
Makka
September 26, 2023 8:00 am

A former Waffen SS soldier honoured in a parliament.

Given the history of the Nazi SS division murdering Canadians (150+) in Normandy shortly after D Day, it beggars belief how breathtakingly demented the Canadian Parliament must be to honor and then applaud that Nazi.

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 8:00 am

Indolent
Sep 26, 2023 7:50 AM
Anti-Grooming Protests Sweep Canada, Parents Speak Out Against Transgender Propaganda in Schools

Canadian police are working on identifying all of them and they will be debanked pronto, just like we’re the truckie protesters and anyone who helped them. Canadians are cute but naive.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2023 8:04 am

I see that the Donut King dragged out gerbil worming last night, apparently in a doomed attempt to divert attention from AnAl’s disastrous campaign for the InVoice, after his silly claim of Kamahl-mentum collapsed.

m0nty
m0nty
September 26, 2023 8:06 am

Be something like exactly the Alternative for Australia (AfA) as it were.

Teal voters want the Liberal Party in just about every respect, except for that whole climate change denial thing.

And you want them to double down on denial, plus extra racism? Yeah nah.

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 8:06 am

That “we’re” in my last comment should be “were”, ah the perils of not proof reading iPad corrections.

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 8:08 am

And you want them to double down on denial

Do you want nuclear power OR are you scientifically illiterate and also accept Bowen’s false and misleading statements about the costs of SMRs?

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 26, 2023 8:08 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2023 8:09 am

Wonder what has happened at Fox in the past few days to cause this.

The Murdochs had been urging Youngkin to run. That was some weeks ago and there’s nothing in the news about him doing so. Maybe they’re supporting Haley as Plan C since DeSantis isn’t looking good either. And they won’t want Vivek to get up since he’s a MAGA candidate.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 26, 2023 8:10 am

Former Prime Minister Bob Hawke had no friends, played up his “Aussie ocker” image and was influenced by his dominant mother, a newly unsealed report by the British Government claims.

The once confidential circular on leading Australian personalities in 1983 also labels late media tycoon Kerry Packer “anti establishment” and “hard-nosed” and then-NSW Premier Neville Wran “well-groomed” but with a “weak speaking voice”.

The highly personal and often patronising document, compiled by a senior British diplomat at the High Commission in Canberra, was declassified this month at London’s National Archives library.

In his weighty file, dated July 31, 1983, second secretary John Russell described Mr Hawke’s sudden rise to power as causing much resentment, suggesting “he will have to watch his back.”

“Born in South Australia in 1929, he is the son of a congregational minister and a mother who was the dominating influence in his life,” Mr Russell writes.

“His popularity stems partly from his carefully cultivated ‘ocker Aussie’ image, exemplified in a raucous ‘strine’ accent which is quite unlike his usual speaking voice.

“His self confident, self-advertising, at times abrasive, manner appeals to lower and to some middle-class Australians, while repelling others.

“There is a certain admiration for him as a reformed drinker and womaniser. Beyond this, he has shown considerable political skill in his eight months in office.

“Publicly, he has a particular need to be liked and appreciated, and indeed feeds on public adulation.

“But it is odd that his ministerial colleagues, and almost anyone who knows him, do not like him much. He has no close friends.”

Daily Tele

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2023 8:12 am

I started to learn Russian before the Coof came along for a trip on the Silk Road through China, into the Stans, the up to Ekaterinaburg then West. Really pissed about China, never going to go there now though they may come to me.

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 8:14 am

Boambee John
Sep 26, 2023 8:04 AM
I see that the Donut King dragged out gerbil worming last night, apparently in a doomed attempt to divert attention from AnAl’s disastrous campaign for the InVoice, after his silly claim of Kamahl-mentum collapsed.

Kamahl-mentum has been highly entertaining particularly the switchback on Das Projekt. Those idiots fact checking on air Kamahl’s aboriginal industry funding figure have just made people go and check it out themselves. When you need rubbery figures* you must go to Channel Ten.

*The world has gone completely upside down since those long ago days of Mike Carlton’s Rubbery Figures. I still can’t pinpoint the moment when we crossed into the alternate universe.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2023 8:15 am

Teal voters want the Liberal Party in just about every respect, except for that whole climate change denial thing.

Teal voters should stop being climate deniers then Monty.

“A Cleverly Staged Hoax.” …Former German TV Meteorologist Slams “Climate Hysteria” (23 Sep)

There still isn’t much happening climatewise except in otherworldly computer models and fake adjustments. But low information Teals and Greens don’t have the statistical and scientific skills to work out they’ve been had.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2023 8:17 am

Don’t you just love the progressive left, be it Justin Trudeau, Daniel Andrews or our very own pervert apologist here, how they all delight in smearing and smacking down anyone and everyone on the right as Nazis and yet, in Canada’s parliament in the last few days, they gave a real Nazi, a man who enlisted in the Waffen SS, a standing ovation (and who, without a doubt, if he was stripped naked, the Waffen SS tattoo would still be visible on his arm).

My God, my God, words fail me. And without a doubt, that vile Chrystia Freeland knew the history of this man. She and her nasty, totalitarian buddy, Justin Trudeau, should resign in disgrace but of course they won’t because they’re on the left, and so there’s never any accountability for them. If this had happened under a Canadian Conservative PM, he/she would have already resigned in disgrace.

But whilst there’s little accountability in the MSM or among progressives generally, there can be some accountability here on this blog, only the other day our resident progressive grub and all round pervert apologist was again smearing NO protesters in Melbourne as Nazis, meanwhile he and his ideological comrades fawn over real Nazis, real Jew haters and real Jew killers. So, if you wonder why I won’t and I don’t tolerate the pervert apologist’s racism, anti-Semitism and all round crap, just yesterday he now styles himself as some kind of Liberal Party advisor, it is because if he insists on coming here and defecating the place with this offensive bullshit, I’ll throw his shit right back back in his face.

m0nty
m0nty
September 26, 2023 8:18 am

Dot, I can’t take nuclear at all seriously. It is pushed by economic illiterates. You can whinge ideologically about China distorting the market with their huge supply side investment, but the inescapable consequence of their largesse is that solar has made nuclear economically obsolete.

Solar PV is just too cheap and too easily available to make discussion of nuclear in two-plus decades of any interest at all. Nukes just don’t matter.

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 8:19 am

GreyRanga
Sep 26, 2023 8:12 AM
I started to learn Russian before the Coof came along for a trip on the Silk Road through China, into the Stans, the up to Ekaterinaburg then West. Really pissed about China, never going to go there now though they may come to me.

Like you there is no way I would go to China, for business or pleasure. There are so many parts of the world now that are too dangerous for Western travellers, ironically most of them speak English now yet hate the native speakers of it.

Eddystone
Eddystone
September 26, 2023 8:25 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 25, 2023 9:07 PM

Apalech elder Phyllis Yunkaporta, who at 61 lives in a house with four other adults and six children under 10, said she would be among the first in line to vote Yes on Tuesday.

“When I was born, I was not an Australian citizen,” said Ms Yunkaporta, who was six when the 1967 referendum to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders as citizens was successful.

From the Australian. Same old bullsh!t!

Easily refuted.

On 26 January 1949, the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 became law. It was the first time that the term ‘Australian citizen’ had been used in any Australian legislation, including the Australian Constitution. Although the Act has been changed since 1948, it is still the basis for how a person becomes an Australian citizen.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2023 8:28 am

Saw an ad pushing the yes vote, an Aboriginal boy who wanted a voice and an education. Made me wonder about BB and how he manages to articulate his feelings since he never had an education. Do I need to put Sarc after that? My son has two Aboriginal mates. One is a PHD candidate in science and the other in IT. Never had any problem hearing what they had to say. The ad would appeal to mutley. This is the level of intelligence we’re dealing with daily.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2023 8:28 am

Bruce of N

There still isn’t much happening climatewise except in otherworldly computer models and fake adjustments. But low information Fantasy Footballers, Teals and Greens don’t have the statistical and scientific skills to work out they’ve been had.

Munty has things backwards. He is supposed to stuff the donuts into his mouth until he gets diarrhea, not stuff them up his backside until he gets verbal diarrhea.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2023 8:31 am

Solar PV is just too cheap and too easily available to make discussion of nuclear in two-plus decades of any interest at all. Nukes just don’t matter.

So why is such “cheap” electricity still subsidised?

No wonder you failed Economics 1.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2023 8:33 am

Dot, I can’t take nuclear at all seriously. It is pushed by economic illiterates.

That’s very funny Monty. Bowen trotted out the 71 SMRs study and howled how expensive $387 billion is. It was amusing.

We’re saved from ‘climate change’— if — world spends $70 trillion plus! US$2.7 trillion annual investment required for global net-zero by 2050 (25 Sep)

We’re 1.6% of global GDP, so that means we’re up for $1.1 trillion to reach net zero using renewables (and I think that’s an underestimate given recent articles about offshore wind lately). Thus the SMRs are actually cheap by comparison, and I suspect the usual suspects have inflated their cost.

Also building conventional nuke plants would probably be even cheaper, since you get the advantages of scale.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 26, 2023 8:34 am

Judith Sloan in the Oz on the immigration Ponzi that noone voted for.

Surging migration, housing crisis leave door open for Coalition
You may have read about the migrant crisis engulfing the small Italian island of Lampedusa. Ten thousand uninvited arrivals reached its shores in one week, eventually to be relocated elsewhere in the EU.

Needless to say, 10,000 in one week sounds an awful lot but here’s the thing: in Australia there are now more than 10,000 migrants arriving by plane each week.

To be sure, they are coming here on visas, but the intention of many is to stay, at least for as long as possible. Close to 100,000 recent arrivals have now applied for humanitarian visas, which will involve many years of assessments and appeals.
According to the latest figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, net overseas migration (long-term arrivals minus long-term departures) reached 454,000 in the year ending March this year.

The largest component is student arrivals. The annual increase in Australia’s population was a massive 563,000 people or 2.2 per cent. The NOM made up 80 per cent of the increase. Most new migr­ants head for Melbourne or Sydney.
Illustrating the naivety of the Treasurer on this issue, Jim Chalmers has simply asserted “the migration numbers are recovering. That’s not a government target or policy. That’s the demand-driven part of the program. It largely reflects the fact that international students are coming back quicker. That’s why we’re seeing these slightly higher numbers.”
In fact, the current numbers are significantly ahead of Treasury’s forecasts of peak NOM of 400,000.

Migrant numbers of this magnitude are both ill-judged and unmanageable. And unlike Europe, where action is difficult, the Australian government could act to reduce the migrant intake but simply refuses to do so. The simplest route would be to put caps on uncapped temporary visas but there are a number of options.

Under Labor, resources in the Department of Home Affairs to process visas have been ramped up to speed up visa processing. Boasts are now made about the number of visa applications being approved and the short time involved. Close to 90 per cent of all student visa applications are approved. The figures are quite staggering. In December last year, for instance, 97,000 student visas were granted compared with 24,000 approved in the previous December.

If we extrapolate the figures we are already at a record number of student visa holders in Australia, eclipsing the previous record. There has been a massive shift in the source countries, with very strong growth from India, Colombia, Brazil, The Philippines, Thailand, Pakistan, Bhutan and Bangladesh.

Those on student visas no longer have to hide their real intentions – to stay in the country after they graduate – which has been made easier by the close-to-automatic issuing of lengthy post-graduation visas.

Earlier in the year the government also received a very unhelpful report chaired by former senior bureaucrat Martin Parkinson that recommended all temporary migrants be given a pathway to permanent residence.

However, even the most ardent supporters of a large migrant intake and the benefits of a big Australia recognise there are annual limits to the extent to which migrants can be absorbed without adverse consequences for the local population as well as the migrants themselves. There is no doubt that a NOM of more than 400,000 a year – indeed, more than 200,000 a year – is beyond the absorptive capacity of the country.

The argument that the government’s hands are tied because of the need to fill skilled job vacancies is totally misleading. The vast majority of the migrant intake is not skilled and even when they complete their qualifications, overseas-born graduates are much less likely to fill professional or managerial occupations than graduates born here.

Certainly, international students undertake unskilled and semi-skilled work, but the case for a large migrant intake has always been made on the basis of a strong skill bias.

To preference employers seeking workers because they can’t find locals or don’t want to bid up wages is a serious policy mistake. Just as a lack of capital can thwart the operation and development of businesses, so can the lack of workers.

The government should not be in the game of seeking to fill all these worker gaps through facilitating migration, just as it wouldn’t want to cover an insufficiency of capital.

The better alternative is to allow the labour market to allocate workers to their best use and to limit the use of migration. Some firms may just have to shrink.

It doesn’t take an economics degree to realise this surge in the population would put immense strain on the housing situation and this is exactly what is playing out, particularly in the cities to which the migrants are flocking.

The vacancy rates for rental properties are at historic lows and rents are rising very strongly, well above the rate of inflation. The fact federal ministers can express concern for those adversely affected by the housing crisis yet do nothing to curtail the size of the migrant intake underscores a wilful downplaying of the connection.

The reality is that all the government housing plans announced thus far, including the federal one, don’t touch the sides when it comes to closing the gap between demand for housing and the supply.

Setting meaningless targets is similarly unhelpful. The federal government has declared that 1.2 million homes will be built in the next five years even though Australia has never achieved anything close to that figure.

And wait for this: according to the most recent figures, annual housing starts have hit a decade-low of just under 60,000. Just in case you think the newly created Housing Australia Future Fund will make a difference, it is anticipated that a mere 30,000 new homes will be built over five years as a result of this initiative and it will not begin for at least another year.

The reality is that government plans have a nasty habit of coming up short and the only sustainable way to deal with the housing imbalance is via private supply responding to private demand.

In the meantime our urban landscapes will be transformed from the previous predominance of detached housing to clusters of poor-quality high-rise apartment buildings. Our cities are already rapidly changing and not for the better in the minds of many.

The consequences of the migrant surge do not stop at the housing market. Congestion, crowded schools and hospitals, deteriorating social amenity, more generally, are some of the impacts.

The federal government can kiss goodbye to its emissions reduction pledge given such strong population growth.

Survey after survey point to the lack of public support for high rates of immigration. The vast majority want a return to previous levels – NOM was around 100,000 a year in the earlier years of the century; some would even prefer a complete pause.

But the politicians would rather prioritise the wishes of the vested interests seeking more migrants – the property developers, big business, universities and, bizarrely, even state governments.

If we think of this issue in a global context, people are on the move, be it via legal or illegal channels. Europe, Britain and the US are being overwhelmed by migrants, in particular. Political parties that support restrictions on immigration are gaining momentum.

There is a real opportunity for the Coalition to differentiate itself from Labor on this topic and thereby break from the bipartisan endorsement of big Australia.

It may take some courage, but is likely to be rewarded by increased support from voters.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2023 8:35 am

Oops, I forgot the USD AUD exchange rate. That makes the renewables number A$1.7 trillion, which even more underlines the benefit of nuclear.

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 8:35 am

Boambee John
Sep 26, 2023 8:31 AM
Solar PV is just too cheap and too easily available to make discussion of nuclear in two-plus decades of any interest at all. Nukes just don’t matter.

So why is such “cheap” electricity still subsidised?

No wonder you failed Economics 1.

Like that kid said on Q And A, stop the subsidies, remove bans and let’s see what comes out on top. But turtle head can’t handle the truth.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2023 8:36 am

Given the history of the Nazi SS division murdering Canadians (150+) in Normandy shortly after D Day,

I’d forgotten that one, Makka, thank you.

calli
calli
September 26, 2023 8:36 am

I still can’t pinpoint the moment when we crossed into the alternate universe.

The Kevin 07 campaign.

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 8:36 am

m0nty
Sep 26, 2023 8:18 AM
Dot, I can’t take nuclear at all seriously. It is pushed by economic illiterates.

This is the height of temerity.

Bowen’s figures are three times the actual prices of SMRs.

Solar PV is just too cheap

At 1 PM during summer, when it’s not raining.

Factories and streetlights run 24/7.

Dot
Dot
September 26, 2023 8:37 am

Err, TRAFFIC lights.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 26, 2023 8:40 am

Tom Dusevic in the Oz on the obvious tension between the Employment White Paper ambitions, and the Union’s IR wishlist.

Labor opens door for workers, but closes it for productivity growth
TOM DUSEVIC
Like its tribal precursors in 1945 and 1994, Labor’s employment white paper brings together the party’s grandest visions and its workaday policy tools in a bold statement of intent.

Of course, the times and ­resources available to Anthony Albanese are very different to his predecessors, but the aims are no less ambitious.

John Curtin’s post-war game plan aimed to keep the nation humming during a time of ­depleted resources. Paul Keating’s Working Nation was a ­response to re-engage workers who bore the brunt of the 1980s restructuring and help the wounded from the recession he’d declared, “we had to have”.
Working Future seeks to build on the pandemic’s platinum lining of low unemployment while navigating the disruptive mega trends of rising protectionism, ­income stagnation, societal ageing, digital upheaval, decarbonisation and geostrategic ruptures

The white paper puts all the pieces of the Prime Minister’s policy forays this past 16 months into a narrative that began during the election campaign: “No one held back, no one left behind.”

It picks up agendas on education and training, migration, social inclusion, clean energy, digital economy, industry development and productivity and seemingly joins the dots.
Yet Monday’s statement is ­inevitably where Labor’s opportunity society crashes into the limitations of Albonomics.

This plan depends on raising the speed limits on economic growth, so the economy can run stronger for longer without igniting higher inflation, but details only policy baby steps to that end.

Treasurer Jim Chalmers and Reserve Bank governor Michele Bullock are not far apart in spirit on achieving full employment, which the latter described as “people are able to find a job without having to search for too long” rather than zero unemployment, which is not feasible.

The new deal on the conduct of monetary policy the two are working on will invoke the vibe but invariably for the RBA’s mandate, full employment is a ­narrower concept, a technical balancing point for labour supply and demand. For the setting of interest rates we need clarity, not the grey zone of aspiration, and there’s always a trade-off.

But Chalmers, union man and social democrat, wants to drive down that “observed” theoretical rate lower than the econocrats at Treasury and the RBA have thought it to be. May he succeed in this quest, for it’s a life’s toil.

With unemployment below 4 per cent for so long post-Covid, amid a surge of foreign students and temporary workers, those still without a job are the most disadvantaged, and perhaps have never worked.

Addressing the structural factors that are holding back the chronically underemployed, including, but not exclusively, people with a disability and Indigenous Australians, will require surgically precise interventions. There are other disincentives in our tax-transfer system that are inhibiting so-called secondary earners in families and those receiving income support payments.

For instance, when a person on JobSeeker moves to work, they lose a range of health, transport and utility concessions. The government will extend to three months the period before these benefits cease.

But the “poverty traps” and high effective marginal tax rates that have irked welfare agencies largely remain, as officials are in a budget-constrained era.

Albanese Labor again puts its productivity agenda in lights, but reform is a slow train coming on an old track, while even then ­ignoring some of the warning signals. Chalmers says he wants a more dynamic economy, where competition flourishes and business investment is encouraged.

Implicit in the white paper is a view that the Productivity Commission is stuck in a time warp and we need fresh thinking on today’s issues; less market, more government hand in key decisions.

Certainly the energy transition will need public investment because we wasted a decade and a half adulterating price signals. Of course, it’s more expensive this way, but we opted for third-best and the clock is ticking on net-zero

The business lobby welcomes the white paper as an action plan but holds back its full endorsement because of Labor’s retrograde workplace laws and proposals.

There is a high degree of theatre in the labour-versus-capital tussle, amid a cost-of-living struggle, but there are many non-combatants perplexed by the government’s actions.

Less flexibility at the enterprise level is a productivity killer, not enabler, and will lead to less investment, weaker economic growth, stagnating real wages and probably more entrenched oligopolies.

For the ace striver from public housing, who rose to the very top of Australia’s political pyramid, that will mean job security for some and doors of opportunity closing for people lost on the ­fringes.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2023 8:43 am

“The Kevin 07 campaign.”

Yep.

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 8:46 am

According to the latest figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, net overseas migration (long-term arrivals minus long-term departures) reached 454,000 in the year ending March this year.

Makes you almost pine for the good old days of the Rudd era when we had 50,000 annual arrivals by boats.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 26, 2023 8:47 am

Snic assured us overseas migrants were skilled after a few years (presumably at RMIT). Both he and Judith can’t be right? Chalmers won’t be the one to turn off the Population Ponzi. Very hard to understand unemployment over the past few years. 180o turn from when I was around at Uni.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 26, 2023 8:49 am

Munty has things backwards. He is supposed to stuff the donuts into his mouth until he gets diarrhea, not stuff them up his backside until he gets verbal diarrhea.

It is like those early humans who would kill an animal and then find a use for every part of the carcass – the bones would be turned into needles, awls, and spearpoints, fur for clothing and sinews used for stitching them together, teeth for jewelry, muscles and viscera for food, and ornaments such as horns to creep about the cave and scare the bejesus out of the kids.

Same principle but much simpler. When Monty eats a donut the dough goes straight to his waste and the hole to his braincase.

Nothing wasted.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 26, 2023 8:49 am

Cassie.

To be slightly fair, the Ukrainian SS chaps seemed to have been formed up too late in the war to have participated in the main slaughter of the Jews.
The country which should have the shots is Poland, as a number of towns were liquidated by the group.
They did do a fair bit of anti- partisan activity though, which was a very dirty fight on both sides.
Doesnt excuse the idiocy/vileness of applauding the chap in Parliament though.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2023 8:53 am

Easily refuted.

I know it’s easily refuted, but it still annoys me when the likes of Linda Burney can push all the old myths, in State and federal parliament, and she is never called to account for making such claims.

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2023 8:53 am

Japan and France, full to the brim of economic illiterates.
Also India China Turkey even Bangladesh and Egypt.
Also Barack Obama who authorised the latest addition to the nuclear power array in the US.

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2023 8:54 am
Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 8:55 am

The consequences of the migrant surge do not stop at the housing market. Congestion, crowded schools and hospitals, deteriorating social amenity, more generally, are some of the impacts.

The federal government can kiss goodbye to its emissions reduction pledge given such strong population growth.

Let’s see how long before the “Stop The Oil” crowd are told in no uncertain terms by the new arrivals to unglue themselves from the roads or they will be driven over. The greenie are all for Big Australia and think that it will be on their terms but will find out differently. I’m looking forward to the Labor’s course correction either on immigration numbers or Carbon Zero targets.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 26, 2023 8:57 am

We have never had so many people in uni.
We have never had such large shortages of nurses/ doctors.
Please explain…..

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 26, 2023 8:59 am

Loved school GreyRanga. Was always the most capable in my classes but come Years 12, I didn’t have the work ethic, thinking everything would fall into my lap which of course is the wrong attitude to have. That wasn’t through any intergenerational trauma or some other confected rubbish our elites foist upon us.
Thinking of study now, what course I don’t know. Even an electrician apprenticeship. See what happens. I’m becoming a restless soul 🙂

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2023 9:01 am

What he actually seems to be saying is that they’re overgilding the lily and the peasants are starting to see through it.

Bill Gates Admits ‘Climate Crisis’ Narrative Is a Hoax

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2023 9:01 am

Renew Economics is rueing roof top solar which forces commercial solar to loss money in the middle of the day when they all produce power no-one wants to use.
So cheap! So efficient!
If only manufacturers could hyper produce all their goods between 12 and 1 on sunny days.
Just a bunch of economic illiterates.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2023 9:06 am

“To be slightly fair, the Ukrainian SS chaps seemed to have been formed up too late in the war to have participated in the main slaughter of the Jews.”

No, the Germans found willing accomplices from the moment when, in 1941, they arrived in Ukraine. Many Ukrainians flocked to join the SS. Ukrainians participated in Babi Yar and other mass slaughters of Jews.

But these SS squads also slaughtered many, many Poles, which is why Poland has been somewhat obtuse about supporting Ukraine since Russia invaded.

If we were to strip Hunka naked I have no doubt that we’d see his Waffen SS tattoo.

Robert Sewell
September 26, 2023 9:06 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 25, 2023 8:46 PM
From the Hun.
Our people are hurting more now, I think, then you know, the George Floyd moment’, Lidia Thorpe says

Victorian Senator Lidia Thorpe has compared the referendum to the shocking death of an African-American man who died from a self administered overdose of multiple drugs while under arrest.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 26, 2023 9:09 am

Lady thought on the Line SS bloke.

In what universe is it not manna from heaven for Putin’s propaganda?
Was there no adult in the room who could have said ” don’t applaud the exact group Putin is claiming to be fighting against ( Ukrainian Nazis) because it’s a silly thing to do”

I don’t have a lot of time for Albo and the ALP, but at least they have managed to avoid applauding unit 731 so far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2023 9:09 am

All those people complaining about sky-rocketing energy prices and general cost of living expenses.
Just a bunch of economic illiterates.

Rabz
September 26, 2023 9:14 am

nuclear is pushed by economic illiterates

Unlike windmills and solar panels, which are pushed by economic and scientific illiterates such as Blackout Bowen.

But yeah, just look out for that (cue spooky muzak …) gerbil broiling, as coined by another economic and scientific illiterate.

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2023 9:14 am

True blue smug self satisfied yet respectful progressives full of generous self applause with their two good incomes and two rental properties don’t give a fig if you economic illiterates can’t pay your Hopper’s Crossing mortgage or afford to put the heater on.
Just eat your two minute noodles and stop your piteous whining.

Rabz
September 26, 2023 9:16 am

On a lighter note, I watched “Cocaine Bear” last night.

Absolutely bloody hilarious. Highly recommended, Cats.

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2023 9:18 am

Further to my aborted Japanese trip.
We got bad but expected news yesterday, still have some treatment options.
As someone kindly reminded me.
“Never, ever give up on hope, never doubt, never tire, and never be discouraged. Be not afraid.

St. John Paul II”

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 9:19 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 25, 2023 8:46 PM
From the Hun.
Our people are hurting more now, I think, then you know, the George Floyd moment’, Lidia Thorpe says

She is right, women and children in NT and other remote communities are abused as much if not more than before but I don’t think Lidia cares about that. She is interested in the incarcerated perpetrators whom she wants to enlist in her racial war. She sees herself as an indigenous Boudicca. The sad fact is that Australia will be infested by this political parasite for another five years and then hopefully she will not be re-elected.

Pogria
Pogria
September 26, 2023 9:19 am

lotocoti
Sep 26, 2023 8:08 AM
We don’t want your doctors.
We don’t need your engineers.
Polack MEP takes the piss.

The only thing that would have made that speech better would have been a standing ovation at the end.

Who am I kidding.

Great speech though, thanks for linking to it Loto.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 26, 2023 9:20 am

Cassie.
I deliberately ignored the earlier slaughters only because that wasn’t carried out by the blokes group.
It’s not meant to downplay the crimes committed in the bloodlands of the East.

Pogria
Pogria
September 26, 2023 9:22 am

Illya Kuryakin has gone.

David McCallum has died. sob.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 26, 2023 9:23 am

Monty, do you condemn Trudeau and Zelensky for applauding an actual Nazi? If not, why?

Crossie
Crossie
September 26, 2023 9:25 am

Rabz
Sep 26, 2023 9:14 AM
nuclear is pushed by economic illiterates
Unlike windmills and solar panels, which are pushed by economic and scientific illiterates such as Blackout Bowen.
But yeah, just look out for that (cue spooky muzak …) gerbil broiling, as coined by another economic and scientific illiterate.

It seems according to the suit and tie, the planet is sinking and boiling and at open gates of hell. I had no idea that there is a greenie Book Of Revelation but I shouldn’t have doubted it since this is the new global religion.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2023 9:26 am

I deliberately ignored the earlier slaughters only because that wasn’t carried out by the blokes group.

They all participated.
There was a line up of Ukrainians to join the Germans.
More pay, more food, better privileges & the opportunity to continue age old gripes in a Hugo Boss uniform.
What the Canadians did was a f*cking disgrace.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 26, 2023 9:28 am

Man From U.N.C.L.E. David McCallum dead at 90

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 26, 2023 9:28 am

Monty will no doubt accelerate the healing process through GoFundMe.

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