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Am I lucky this morning?
3 down. Australia will probably lose tomorrow. Despite all the bullshit, I still support Australia.
Well spotted Ceres.
At this moment in time, Jasprit Bumrah is playing his 41st Test and is holding a bowling average of 19.94.…
It’s okay when we do it – Democrats.
Abbott always gave me the impression he was trying too hard to impress the company in which he found himself.
He lacked the calm manner of a natural leader and that made him appear aggressive and ill at ease at times. This awkwardness had a negative effect on female voters.
He is an awkward man who has has been told by women (he is surrounded by women in his family, not all of whom support him) to be a certain way, including Credlin. As a result he still thinks there are rules; all conservatives, except Trump and even he underestimated the lack of rules, have this affliction.
Abbott always gave me the impression he was trying too hard to impress the company in which he found himself.
He lacked the calm manner of a natural leader and that made him appear aggressive and ill at ease at times. This awkwardness had a negative effect on female voters.
He is an awkward man who has has been told by women (he is surrounded by women in his family, not all of whom support him) to be a certain way, including Credlin. As a result he still thinks there are rules; all conservatives, except Trump and even he underestimated the lack of rules, have this affliction.
Given the fertility rate in South Korea is .78, Japan has such a severe demographic crisis houses are being given away and regional towns are emptying, and in China the young have moved from Lying Flat to Let It Rot, I won’t be looking to Asian parents are exemplars of how to raise children.
I should have had coffee first.
I apologise for misleading readers due to my misreading of the wrong graph.
Yes it is still declining.
Makka
Sep 30, 2023 10:44 AM
A deeper strata than the conservative dinosaurs layer, apparently.
I was hoping it would reach Stromatolite strata, but I’d settle for rustedons.
This is an odd sort of question because they didn’t (and wouldn’t) and have been accused of political bias before.
They’re all talk except in remote Aboriginal communities, which the Federal government can intervene anyway in a territory.
Speaking of the above two, why wasn’t the Army deployed when Gillard was caught in a riot? The answer to that is why this power should absolutely not be normalised or become common.
If state security is really threatened, I don’t have a problem with this. Sure, that’s part of their duty. Who signs up because of it though?
I highly doubt DFR ever have any loon coming in and saying that’s why they want to join up. I know they tell you this is a serious job and you have to accept it involves taking orders and that may entail taking lives.
Let’s say get a riot like the Darwin Mutiny or the Cronulla Riots. Sure, order has to be restored.
It means you have stuffed up pretty badly policy wise and the defence aid to civil power should be a last resort.
Most people who got the jab had two or more of them. Death, however, usually only happens once.
I heard an idiot woman in a restaurant say she’s had 6 shots – and she was complaining about people not wearing masks.
Was she wearing a special “eating” sort? 😀
Dot
Because they weren’t needed. Half a dozen AFP and Abbott between them were enough to resolve that matter.
On my two specific questions, you avoided providing a clear answer to both, but essentially said “No”. It seems that you are happy to leave resolution of violent riots to poorly trained and disciplined forces like VicPol. Please confirm that this interpretation of your response is correct.
PS, the power is not normalised, and is not common (unless you can cite a few examples that I might have missed).
But being prepared for uncommon contingencies is wise.
Gillard was never under any threat. The “riot” was organised by her office. Mr “Awkward” who then got a shift over to the UK.
My favourite photo of the fracas.
The Liberal Party is riddled with traitors and LINOs. Photios is the worst, a left leaning power-wielding cancer who manages to stay out of the limelight while chipping away at LP values.
The Liberals will not recover until he and his supporters are excised.
OK. Let’s play a silly game and pretend they all died immediately after being jabbed.
In 2021 Australia administered 42 million injections of Covid vaccines – which obviously must have resulted in 52,000 deaths.
Given 171,000 total Australian deaths in 2021, the standardised death rate shouldn’t have fallen with the addition of 30-odd percent of novel deaths.
But it did.
“SAFE & EFFECTIVE” is extremely apt.
Safe:
No liability whatever for the drug companies, because fawning buffoons like our Minister for Everything, signed off on the free pass.
Can anyone think of any other manufacturer, (of ANY item), that cannot be held responsible for the damage their product causes, because (every) Govt allowed this clause in the ordering of these poisons?
Effective:
Rivers of cash flowed into the coffers of Moderna/Pfizer et al.
I’d say that was pretty effective.
One of the causes of decreased fertility in Japan is that small children are not well tolerated in public.
I have some exposure to Asian parenting and if you think relentless beatings for serious infractions such as failing to gorge yourself at a buffet restaurant are exemplary parenting have at it.
My favourite photo of the fracas.
That is a good photo of the slapper. She’s always been photogenic.
I am in the (fleeting, admittedly) mood for some nostalgia and memberberries.
TRAITORS!!!
You WANT to KILL yOUR own GRANDMOTHERS!
If you choose to get the jab because you need to feed your family then you are a coward. And Mengele. And a fascist who wants his family to die. And a cowengele. And a mascist.
I would rather flense myself with a potato peeler (Australian made, not cheap Chinese garbage – I have standards!), peel back my own nails and rub them with quicklime (Australian of course, you traitors), and swallow a single length of razor wire over days until it emerged from my anus and I tied the ends together along perineum, stomach, chest, and chin, and then be hauled face down over a salt flat by a Harley Davidson (none of that Chinese shit – standards ya know) rather than get the jab, and anyone who would deviate from this precise prescription is a cowengelascist!
Good times, huh?
Yep. Mood has passed.
This stupid Demonrat bint, is defending Hiden’s corruption and saying the House needs to go back working, to help hungry people on American streets.
She’s wearing Louis Vuitton
Most likely stolen from the latest looting heist.
One minute Abbott is a blokey bloke who spends all of his free time with blokes and the next he’s relentlessly henpecked.
Maybe it’s none of the above.
Girls In their late teens, twenties tend not to spend much time with dear old dad.
Thank goodness the Abbott family are apparently now out of the news cycle.
I remember many predictions here Abbott was minutes away from running off with Credlin.
Bit like Hilary being dead and the Dems wheeling around a body double.
Ah, Gingerella who lost her shoe.
Nothing says women are a rugged and doughty as men as much as Gillard in that photo.
Thank goodness. I thought you were going to go to my personal favourite – they’d killed their children…and grandchildren.
Which is tempting…they just had a barney and are now grounded.
Haha, danger Will Robinson, our cash cow is threatened!
Here’s how to fix Australia’s approach to soil carbon credits so they really count towards our climate goals (29 Sep, via Phys.org)
Ya reckon? Be safe to say that pretty much all so-called carbon emission certificates are fake. That’s slowly becoming apparent, based on a number of recent stories. But the authors have an answer!
So if the carbon content goes down, for example due to drought or a bush fire, would they then have to pay back the carbon credits they originally got paid for? Inquiring minds are inquiring. They carefully forget to say anything about this. Weird huh? The whole paper is very entertaining in a contortionist sort of way. And the authorship is a cast of thousands…
Wow that’s a lot of rice bowls! So many drones, we taxpayers have to feed these days, so many drones.
About Janet A’s column today.
Is this really true? I reckon it’s bullshit. How often do men really think about this?
Perhaps what gave the Roman Empire thing a real kick in men’s minds was the film Gladiator. I suspect it was one of the most manly movies ever made. Crowe was superb.
Voting her into Congress so she goes to DC is certainly a novel strategy by Texans to get her out of the state, but I suppose it works. They were going to be paying for her no matter what, and whether there are 211 or 212 Democrats in the Representatives does not in fact give them more or less power in government.
Perhaps what gave the Roman Empire thing a real kick in men’s minds was the film Gladiator.
I’ll either read some or watch a TikTok or YouTube vid of Seneca or Marcus Aurelius once or twice a week.
Does that count ?
LOL
Gladiator took over 500 million at the box office in 2000.
Way back when men were allowed to behave like men and movies could be entertaining.
Thanks Rosie, I didn’t realise parenting could be that brutal. Might go some way to explaining the high suicide rates in Japanese youth.
It is easy to castigate the younger generations here but think about the flip side. Casual sex is declining, illicit drug is declining, smoking almost absent, alcohol consumption down, generally more health conscious, and they are much less tolerant of corporations that engage in problematic behaviors whereas previous generations put up with that.
Those rice bowls only refill by magic IF you have successful grant applications. And the necessary condition for that is?
Biology is qwerty.
‘New way of looking at nature’: These naturalists explore queer ecology with geese, owls and more (Phys.org, 29 Sep)\
One wonders how flora and fauna actually reproduce in the natural world.
It’s a total mystery.
I watched season one of Wheel of Time a while back, deviated a fair bit from the books but was okay, not sure I’ll continue on with season 2, it’s quite deliberately woke and I don’t think I can be bothered.
The books weren’t exactly brilliant but enough of a hook to read the series, all the same.
And:
And their grandchildren’s grandchildren! Killed them all!
It’s the fault of emotive women promoted by Klaus and who won’t sit down, shut up and do as they’re told! 800 years in the making! Knights Templar! The R people!
Men need to run this country! Not ordinary men, manly men like me! Tens of thousands of years of manliness, laid low in 40! By communism! Agrarian socialist communism!
I’m travelling in my conveyance! Birth certificates! Can’t you see?
Where’s my sandwich? Who told you you could vote?
Is there a movie or a series these days that doesn’t have at least one lezzo sequence with a pair of sheilas discovering for the first time that they’re bi, or a gay couple doing the same thing. Although, it’s generally more lezzocentric?
What army units could have been deployed to APH at short notice? What did the police do?
WAR is a Facebook group with 62,000 followers and only nine people making comments. They might incite other people but they won’t have a riot because they as authentic as The Pedestrian Council.
As for Victoria, the only riot that is likely to happen is a faked one involving fake Nazis like the long blonde haired COB copper’s kiddo.
There is nothing wrong with planning for contingencies.
Very few if any soldiers join up to suppress riots (thank god) even if it is ultimately part of their job and having it in the recruiting material is nuts.
One for Dr BeauGan.
Hermit ‘scribblings’ of eccentric French math genius unveiled (Phys.org, 29 Sep)
Might be a few interesting nuggets to find in all those pages, but presumably you’d have to read them in French.
Somewhat unusual:
A man has died after his boat was struck by a whale, throwing both him and his skipper into the water early Saturday morning.
About 6am, NSW Water Police received reports two people were in the water off Cape Banks at La Perouse, after a boat was reportedly struck by a whale and flipped.
“Early reports are that a whale may have breached near the boat, or onto the boat,” NSW Police acting Superintendent Siobhan Munro said on Saturday morning.
Witnesses who were also on the water nearby told the Saturday Telegraph they heard a “big bang” before the 4.8 metre boat capsized.
“Something big came out of the water, it was huge,” they said.
“It was still dark but you could see this big black shape jump out of the water.”
It’s understood one man was knocked unconscious and his skipper held him above water for around 45 minutes while he called for help.
Other boaters notified the police about the incident after they noticed the fishermen’s empty vessel running laps of the area.
A video posted to TikTok by another boater showed the boat running in circles after the men were pulled from the water.
The engine on the boat is understood to have been running for some time after the collision with the whale.
“Lifeguards are here, hopefully the boat doesn’t hot the rocks,” the person filming can be heard saying.
Attempts to revive the unconscious man were unsuccessful and he was declared deceased at Foreshore Road Boat Ramp.
Indolent
Sep 30, 2023 12:10 PM
I heard an idiot woman in a restaurant say she’s had 6 shots – and she was complaining about people not wearing masks.
I went to see my local GP yesterday in order to get an updated Referral Letter. The Receptionist had already ‘commanded’ me to wear a mask when I made the Appointment a few days ago (I turned up not wearing a mask BTW).
So, I wore a mask when I saw the Doctor yesterday. He was also wearing a mask and he showed into his Surgery Room and had me sit down. He sat down at his desk and immediately took off his mask. When I said “Are you allowed to do that?”, he said “This is my Surgery Room and I can do what I want”. So, I took off my mask as well and then we were both able to talk to each other quite normally.
When I left the room, I put my mask back on and laughed when I walked out past the Receptionist taking my mask off at the same time.
Mask Madness.
Manly men like Henry Bolte
Agrarian Socialist pinup boy.
Hang ‘em high.
I watched a bit of Perry Mason season 2 on the plane.
Did we need to see Della Street pashing her latest?
Neither Perry nor Paul Drake warranted a single boring sex byplay. Oh Drake gave his wife a cuddle in one scene.
Perry appears to be celibate.
I noticed Robert Downey Jr is running that particular show.
Disappointed, Iron Man.
I’m speechless.
Baris was on Tim Pool and did not reference what he said months ago.
He did say they would be in the field soon on this.
I look forward to what he digs up.
We know who runs that surgery.
Having had a lot of exposure to various medical situations over the past couple of months, I notice that pathology clinics staffed exclusively by women are “mask” and ones who have a sprinkling of men are “meh”.
I know there’s an element of confirmation bias there, but some of these chicks are feral about it. Apart from my orthopod’s receptionist. She had a box of masks on her desk and the obligatory sign…so I asked if I should wear one. Why? was the answer.
A lot of it appears to be compliance kabuki.
Old series but I enjoy watching for the first time Star Trek Enterprise. I couldn’t stand Next Generation because they were all so blxxdy nice. Made me puke. In Enterprise they characters are much more realistic. Contrariwise, and to your point, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, is replete with wokery. I know this because a few days ago I read a scathing review about it. I think that review is on Quillette, which has some very good material.
The solution is simple JC. Stop watching English language productions. Plenty of good Russian, Asian, and some European screen productions that are worth a look.
Season 1 was pretty good I thought. I like Mathew Rhys. He was outstanding in The Americans.
Sorry John that was other Asian parenting, not sure if Japanese beat their children.
They do allow children as young as six to travel on public transport on their own to go to school, which is fine by me.
I quite liked season one, too.
Quote from the ABS page:
OK.
I had my coffee and breakfast, but this opinion is still not making sense to me:
From 5.1 to 5.5 is a “fall”?
That *does* sound like a Faustian bargain.
Huh? Who doesn’t?
I’ve bought entire atlases just because they contain maps of the Roman Empire.
Aye, it were a cornucopia of curses then.
FMD. I’ve just turned off the Channel Stokes grand final entertainment — some tanned white fellah with a didgeridoo doing what’s effectively an advertisement for the Voice. A revolting turn-off for the majority from the AFL.
If it wasn’t a monopoly, the AFL would be bleeding market share like Bud Light.
That Millie really is a pos- another BA. Like Morrison poison.
Good times.
The standarised death rate in 2021 was 5.1 which was a fall from 2012 when it was 5.5.
It went back to 5.5 in 2022.
That rendition of Waltzing Matilda was dreadful.
Looks like Buddy Franklin refused the plea to join the farewell parade around the G.
Wonder why.
Absence and silence are sometimes quite withering.
New shows are super for drinking games.
Lesbian bingo.
It’s not based on the sure bet that a carpet appreciator will show up but how long it will take before the action starts.
Allusions to said act are only worth a half shot or a mid strength beer.
There’s always Star Trek TOS. Completely unreconstructed.
Might go woke in retrospect.
I saw a woman walking completely alone outside yesterday wearing a mask. WTF is wrong with these people.
Two sinister type TV series atm ;
Silo
Severence.
Season 1 is out on each. Hopefully Season 2 meets expectations- which is excellent.
I wonder what has driven the remarkable decrease in death rates of under fives in the last 115 years.
In Australia, death rates have continued to decline since at least the early 1900s. Between 1907 and 2021, the crude death rate decreased by 38% (41% for males and 34% for females). When accounting for changes in the population age structure over this period, the age-standardised death rate fell by 75% (73% for males and 77% for females). This was largely driven by the decline of infant and child deaths during this period; from 2,412 deaths per 100,000 children under 5 in 1907 to 77 per 100,000 in 2021 (decrease of 97%).
I’m not watching the GF.
Completely unVictorian of me.
multiple people killed in NT crash.
Excess deaths in 2023 confirmed. The evidence is incontrovertible that is the ‘jab’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6xBiyidQ9g
Incontrovertibly incontrovertible.
Because YouTube.
Don’t get me wrong, I encourage vaxtards, LWNJs and fake Christians to get as many jabs as possible. This will be beneficial for society.
THE RISE AND FALL IN AUSTRALIA’S LIFE EXPECTANCY DURING THE PANDEMIC
Nothing says real Christian more than wishing untimely death on people.
Please get as many mRNA jabs as possible. It’s the only thing to save the world from doom.
https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=104676
Can’t buy any white face makeup anywhere today.
What’s goin’ on?
Any Cats go to Costco ?
I’ve been a shareholder for years but have never actually been into one.
The one at Parra is the closest but do any Cats think there are better ones are further out?
I need to see the place with my own eyes.
But they are ‘safe’ and ‘effective’! Get with it antivaxxxer cooker. Keep gettin them shots!
Camera-person missed the guitar smash.
Where do they get these twerps.
Sent that vid to my mate who used to be in the battalions. Reckons it’s tame compared to what they used to do. Apparently the aid posts used to do a roaring trade after, broken bones, abrasions etc… Used to be called services protected evacuation, not to be used on Australian citizens only overseas evacuating citizens from a failed state…
My father a career soldier was dead against using the Army for police roles and on the flip side the militarisation of the police. Glad he wasn’t around to see COVID. That said most of the ex Defence guys I have talked to about COVID loved it or hated it, the ones that loved it were in 5 star hotels and did nothing, the ones that hated it were in Victoria or treated like serfs by the police usually on checkpoints.
Watching the GF at a mate’s place.
I may be gone for some time.
I gave mine up years ago, bern. Costco membership ain’t worth it if you have Aldi, Coles etc in the neighbourhood. Maybe if you are buying for a large family. I think it explains why they haven’t really expanded all that much here. Who needs 3.8L of Tabasco sauce?
The old boys in Kiss did the job as you would expect from seasoned entertainers.
KISS principle works for AFL as well.
“I knew it! I found the answer on Youtube!” Professor Farnsworth, Futurama
Did you use their fuel Petros?
I saw in a news story an ANU academic saying that for men Rome represents war, bloody sports, and sex. When men think of Rome they were, supposedly, fantasising about that.
I think in fact most guys’ idea of Rome is people living under often tyrannical government (most would have no idea that Rome had once been a republic). They are thinking of an ordered society not in like ours which ultimately fell due to rot from within. (Well, at the top anyway.)
Rome had very clear roles for men – defending the nation, community, and family. It very much centred on family. This is, despite the fevered stereotyping of some ‘toxic masculinity’ from angry feminists, what men actually aspire to. And, as a nation, Rome was strong because of it legionaries, ordered and disciplined*.
The academic, apart from xis/zers misunderstanding of how men think, also assume men imagine themselves living a dissolute, orgiastic, violent life such as Rome symbolises. Instead I would guess men saw it as an example to be at times emulated and others avoided.
You really need to shave off a few IQ points to see what an academic is trying to hammer you with.
The Rome connection will be stronger in the US as the young nation took many examples from Rome. Senate, anyone? And I believe they adopted the minimum age for a President from the minimum age of a consul – 35.
* The opening scene from the series Rome depicts an example of the orderliness and discipline of a Roman legion. Regular rotation of the guys at the front so fresh troops always faced a steadily tiring enemy.
Any Cats go to Costco ?
Yup. Get petrol there – often about 15c a litre cheaper – and bought four tyres the other day.
Took me a year to discover they have a meat department though – never went for a prowl anywhere inside.
What a relief Magda helped save the Game Day football.
Which ANU wacademic? A contemptable institution in a contemptable city.
Might be a mid-week trip for me.
If Costco weekends are anything like the DFO circus at Homebush, I’d prefer to avoid.
I recently spent all night with my wife in our local hospitalette emergency treatment room.
All nighters are a severe trial for me these days. I would not have survived if there had been mask madness in force.
It was interesting, lots of sick and injured people being wheeled in and ambulanced off to big city hospitals, but not a hint of masks.
I didn’t ask. I had no desire to spook the horses.
It seems that private surgeries with their attendant Karens are the center of the mask idiocy.
I maintain my Costco membership purely for the 1.8kg jars of jelly belly’s and the citron, ginger and honey tea mixture.
Paying 30c a litre less for diesel if I can be bothered schlepping to Epping is not a bad deal either.
I may well reconsider my position given they have just ditched the plastic card for digital only and I now have to faff about online to convert to the mandated virtual standard.
Suddenly?
Did they die suddenly?
Only one thing causes that!
Dinner time is the best time to brave the Costco aisles, Bern. The mad hordes are feeding the family or themselves and you’re not getting pushed from pillar to post by trollies bearing massive packs of toilet paper.
Their checkout staff go quick-sticks and with no frills. The only queue is usually at the exit with a dragon or two checking your receipt to make sure you’re not nicking anything.
Just as a change from the “Voice” referendum
I can’t recall the name. It had a guy’s name, for what that is worth.
I included that bit of anecdote because I would guess most people would recognise it as predictable, and the rest of the post did not rely on it but rather made the point that men might think of Rome in a proper masculine way – not as some ill-informed feminist caricaturist way.
How often do you think about the Roman Empire? It turns out lots of men do, and often.
One of my bookshelves is all Roman empire non fiction books …………
Pies by five points after the Bears jump them early and lead by six goals at quarter time.
PS: I hate loving the Pies, but Fly McCrae’s never-say-die coaching does it for me.
I maintain my Costco membership purely for the 1.8kg jars of jelly belly’s
Sounds like a stocking stuffer for Christmas.
Ooh, one more for the reading-beyond-their-years cohort. (Calli’s descendant if I recall).
The James Herriot series. I got most of the paperbacks at a bookstall before I discovered the corresponding BBC TV series which defined the visuals for me ever after. I also now have a hardback omnibus on my bookshelf from when I thought the paperbacks had gone missing (they hadn’t). After pestering her for years about them my daughter is finally reading the books after encountering a remake of the TV series. :-/
Is the Collingwood captain one of those trans types?
He’s actually a manly man with a girl’s haircut.
PS: I blame Woodstock and American 1990s sitcoms.
if the Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance resort to violence, riots
If they do that in Victoria, then I expect they will certainly fare worse off than the non-violent vacination mandate protestors, but will the government allow it?
VicPol would just love to bash some heads so you know they’re up for it
That’s the same VicPol though that took a knee for the pretend BLM protestors in Melburne.
There has to be an end to the political correctness one day, the rest of us cop so much crap from the activists and protestors as if their rights are greater than the rest of us
oh .. wait
thanks ML- it’s a long time ago now that academics were scholars.
That’s the same VicPol though that took a knee for the pretend BLM protestors in Melburne.
Ballarat wasn’t it? Grotesque Marxist agitprop imported from the US.
Dot at 1308
I’ll take that as a “No”.
The ABS tells us the standardised death rate in 2021 was 5.1 – vs the 5.3 average since 2012.
A fall by any other name – and not wholly convincing evidence of wholesale 2021 vax slaughter.
But certainly Faustian.
Perhaps what gave the Roman Empire thing a real kick in men’s minds was the film Gladiator. I suspect it was one of the most manly movies ever made. Crowe was superb.
Crowe was nothing compared to Steve Reeves who was the Roman Empire in movies.
Here’s a photo of Steve from the back.
Looking at the utterly and totally ineffectual job they made of resistance last time, I wouldn’t worry too much about the “Warriors” of the Aboriginal Resistance.
The ABS tells us the standardised death rate in 2021 was 5.1 – vs the 5.3 average since 2012.
That would be the same Govt agency that tells us the annual inflation rate (June Qtr) was just 6%..
Never mind the Roman Empire, Crowe certainly gave us ladies a real kick in our minds!
Cassie of Sydney
Sep 30, 2023 11:29 AM
Walked to Pilates today in Woollahra, Yes spruikers out and about on Queen Street, exchanged words with one, and then told her to piss off. I’m done with being polite.
You are a National Treasure!
Couple of regular, no bullshit, Cronkite cute owls.
Pontius Pilates?
More Rome talk!
Thanks JC. NOT
Boof!
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steveinman:
McDonald’s security serving up McKnuckle sandwiches
What about the various Spartacus television series?
He uses Kim Jong Il’s hairdresser.
Excellent commentary on Jacinta Price’s address to the Press Club:
Cometh the Hour, Cometh the Woman
BY Ramesh Thakur Brownstone Institute SEPTEMBER 21, 2023
A moment comes, which comes but rarely in a nation’s history, when a new star is born in the political firmament. In the years ahead, Australians might well look back on Thursday September 14, 2023, as one such moment. That was the day on which Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, the Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians, spoke from the heart and the head in a nationally televised address at National Press Club (NPC) in Canberra.
Before getting to the substance of her comments, five introductory remarks that set the tone for her prepared speech and the Q&A interaction with the audience.
First, owing to renovations in the building it was explained that Price had to speak in a tiny apology for a room that was an embarrassment to the importance of the occasion. As Shakespeare’s Lady Macbeth laments, that is a stain on the NPC that not “all great Neptune’s ocean” will wash clean. Price herself referred to that only obliquely at the very start of her talk by expressing appreciation for “the intimacy of the room,” which in itself is a clue to her sense of gentle irony.
Second, David Crowe, chief political reporter for the Sydney Morning Herald and the Age (Melbourne), who acted as MC, introduced her as a Warlpiri–Celtic woman. The relevance of this became clear in what followed. Third, he referred to Colin Lillie as her “partner.” Six seconds into her talk, Price corrected Crowe: “Colin is my husband, not my partner.”
She had me from that point on. With her two comments, Price grabbed and retained my full attention.
Fourth, in 2021, Price wrote a short policy paper for the Centre for Independent Studies called “Worlds Apart: Remote Indigenous disadvantage in the context of wider Australia.” She described the plight of Aboriginal-Australians living in remote communities as a “wicked problem” that is almost impossible to solve, with many “townships on the verge of breaking point.”
In a country known for its “wealth, education and safety,” they are “outliers” whose problems “are immensely challenging to understand, and their challenges [are] hard to address.” She issued a clarion call for a “solution that targets communities based on evidence, rather than assertions about race and culture, and focuses on establishing the safe communities that any Australian would rightfully expect on their doorstep.”
Thus Price has a demonstrated commitment to trying to understand and address the sorry state of affairs in remote Aboriginal communities. She brings the requisite dose of realism instead of starry -yed romanticism to her portfolio.
The full speech (but not Crowe’s introduction of the speaker) is available on YouTube here.
As of 19 September, it has been viewed by around 114,000 people. By way of comparison, the previous week’s address by a leading Yes campaigner Marcia Langton, who will feature again shortly, had been viewed 18,000 times despite being available for a full week longer. It deserves a global audience, for the issues she discusses with exceptional eloquence, clarity, courage of conviction, and flashes of passion are relevant to public policy debates in every settler country (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, USA).
Fifth and finally, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is the Magna Carta of the international human rights regime. Article 1 declares: “All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.” Article 2 follows with: “Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, … birth or other status.” On any plain reading, the proposed Voice would violate this foundational global document.
Price used the platform of the NPC to lay out both a grounded critique of the Voice initiative and a compelling alternative vision. She devoted a lot of time to dismantling the flawed assumptions and false claims of the Yes campaign, all of which can be expected to be challenged. She has confronted the entire establishment and orthodoxy of Aboriginal political power and left them distinctly discombobulated.
Price has set down markers against everyone who would divide Australian society and embed separation in the Constitution. But she doesn’t just reject the Voice. Her political agenda is first to defeat the Voice in the referendum on 14 October and then to merge Aborigines into the wider Australian society.
Over the course of an hour, Price demonstrated astonishing range, depth, and grasp of on-the-ground issues. Her truth-telling – a perfect example of tough love – is not for the faint of heart and the squeamish. It is likely to bend the trajectory of the campaign and confirm her as a force of Australian and Aboriginal politics to be reckoned with. She is a national leader in the making with the potential to go to the very top of public life.
Of course, before Price can make it to the top, she will have to broaden her portfolio responsibilities beyond indigenous affairs. But she has shown she has the necessary qualities for an effective centre-right leader. Mercifully too, she is not a careerist pursuing power for the sake of power, but seems interested in public office to make a difference for the people.
Price quickly identified the inherent contradiction at the very core of the Voice idea which fatally undermines the “Closing the Gap” slogan. Given the difficulties of constitutional amendment, if the Voice is created, it will be forever. Therefore it is built on the assumption of a permanent gap and Aboriginal disadvantage. This will result, she followed up, because the city-based activists who have benefitted from the range of benefits, services, and programs dedicated to helping Aborigines are seeking to make their advantages permanent.
The price will be to turn Aboriginal-Australians into perpetual victims. By contrast, her own preferred pathway to progress is through a mix of institutional accountability of the existing machinery and programs, and individual agency and responsibility.
Instead of creating additional layers of Aboriginals-centric bureaucracy, she urged sharper focus on making the existing structures work to their benefit, conducting a full forensic audit of just where the annual $30-40 billion expenditure on Aboriginal programs is going and how effective it is, demanding accountability of institutions while encouraging individual and tribal agency and responsibility, and looking to the day when a separate Minister and Department can be abolished as public policy and benefits shift progressively from race to needs-based programs.
Price refutes the notion that “inner-city activists speak for all Aboriginals.” When she rejects the assumption underlying the Voice – that all Aborigines feel, think, and desire the same things as colonial-era stereotyping – she reminds me of an old Punch cartoon. A society lady introduces a guest from a West African country to another from India with the words: “You are both natives. You must have a lot in common.” Her vision will appeal to a much broader cross-section of Australians than just the Aborigines.
Price is a threat to the city-based power structures because she rejects the moral foundations on which the existing Aboriginal industry has been created. She is prepared to articulate an alternative moral framework as the pathway to genuine reconciliation and eventual union. This is why veteran Australian journalist Paul Kelly’s takeaway from the NPC address was: “Australia’s elites are in the process of being administered a huge shock.”
This includes the corporate elites. In his Sydney Morning Herald column on 15 September, David Crowe listed the elite money behind the No campaign. True enough, but not the whole truth. Financial support for No fades into insignificance in comparison to the serious money backing Yes. The final month of the campaign will be drenched with a $100 million “Vote Yes” advertising splurge.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese proudly boasted in Parliament:
“Every major business in Australia is supporting the Yes campaign. Woolworths, Coles, Telstra, BHP, Rio Tinto, the Business Council of Australia, the Catholic Church, the Imams Council, the Australian Football League, the National Rugby League, Rugby Australia and Netball Australia are all supporting the Yes campaign.”
Price noted that politicians could not be found in Canberra to listen to ordinary Aboriginal women who had travelled there to tell their lived truths. They listen instead to “the Qantas-sponsored leaders of the activist industry.”
The State of Victoria’s Yoorrook Justice Commission’s “truth-telling” relies on “make-believe history,” in the words of one of the country’s most eminent historians Geoffrey Blainey, to demand a separate child protection and criminal justice system for young people designed and controlled by Aboriginal-Australians. Price referenced the Commission in her NPC speech by decrying the tendency to romanticise pre-European Aboriginal culture. They misrepresent it as some form of paradise, she said, while demonising colonial settlement in its entirety and nurturing a national self-loathing about the foundations of the modern Australian achievement.
Melbourne University’s Professor Marcia Langton is another prominent Aboriginal Yes campaigner. On 11 September she explained the resistance to the amendment with reference to “base racism” and “sheer stupidity.” She has form. Speaking at a Queensland University event on 7 July, she said a large number of No voters and around 20 percent of the population were “spewing racism.”
Price responded to Langton at the NPC without naming her. What “would be racist, is segmenting our nation into ‘us’ and ‘them’.” And stupidity would lie in dividing
“a nation when it has been growing ever more cohesive. To split it along fractures of race rather than try to bring it closer together.”
Price has copped a lot of vitriol and abuse from the establishment, and not just Aboriginal activists. On 8 April 2021, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC, the public broadcaster) issued a public apology to Price and settled out of court for its coverage of a speech by her in Coffs Harbour on 10 September 2019 “which it accepts were false and defamatory.”
Speaking on ABC Radio in November last year, senior Aboriginal leader Noel Pearson said with reference to Price that while the “bullets are fashioned” by conservative think tanks like the Centre for Independent Studies and the Institute of Public Affairs who pull the strings, “it’s a black hand pulling the trigger.” The CIS and IPA “strategy” is “to find a black fella to punch down on other black fellas.”
In an article in the Saturday Paper on 25 August 2018, Langton had similarly accused Jacinta Price and her Aboriginal mother Bess of having “become the useful coloured help in rescuing the racist image” of conservative think tanks.
It doesn’t require much imagination to know what would happen to any non-Aboriginal Australian who described Langton or Pearson in equivalent terms.
Those determined to take offence and see racism will find it every time. I became an Australian citizen in 1998. Not one to take intentional offence lying down, in the quarter-century since I have not encountered any serious racism as distinct from curiosity about origins. Not even during a two-week driving holiday through the outback.
Australia already is one of the most diverse, inclusive, and least racist societies in the world and there is a lot to like in this big picture. Of course there must be some racists here as anywhere else. But caste, skin colour, and religious prejudices are still far more deeply entrenched in India, for example, than here. And the fact that caste identity is constitutionally entrenched in India has served only to perpetuate caste consciousness and embed it deeply in public policy.
In the Q&A, Crowe asked if Price accepted that the history of colonisation has caused “generations of trauma.” Her answer provoked much applause and laughter:
“Well, I guess that would mean that those of us whose ancestors were dispossessed of their own country and brought here in chains as convicts were also suffering from intergenerational trauma. So I should be doubly suffering from intergenerational trauma.”
The division that will be entrenched permanently by the constitutional amendment is very personal in a “blended” family. The cut-away from her doubly traumatised answer focussed on the centre of the first row of the audience where her Aboriginal mother Bess sat in the centre, amidst her father David who is an Australian of Anglo–Celtic ancestry and her husband Colin who is Scottish-Australian. Price has three sons from her first marriage and is stepmother to Colin’s son from a previous relationship. This means, as they have noted, that, if approved, the Voice would give additional ancestry-based rights, privileges, and access to her mother and three sons but not to her father, husband, and stepson. That sounds like a recipe for Tolstoy’s unhappy families.
Price continued in answer to Crowe that violence inside the family resulted more from child marriage of girls than from the lingering effects of colonisation. Then she added:
We haven’t had a feminist movement for Aboriginal women because we’ve been expected to toe the line in Aboriginal activism for the rights of our race. But our rights as women have been second place.
In another blunt response to a question on the growing number of Australians who identify as indigenous, she said: “If we chose to serve Australians on the basis of needs and not race, those opportunists” who self-identify as Aboriginal “would disappear quick smart.”
To a follow-up question on the continuing impact of colonisation, from Josh Butler of the Guardian, Price said she doesn’t believe there are ongoing negative impacts but she does think there is ongoing positive impact. Taken literally, this is of course easily demonstrated as false. (Although ongoing trauma from historical colonisation is more likely to be the product of a contemporary sensibility that puts a premium on victimhood and grievance.) In all cases, colonisation had both damaging and beneficial lasting impacts in the various empires.
Maybe Price meant that the balance of the impacts of colonisation has been positive. That at least is defensible and arguable. The exercise would require rigorous historical assessment of the net benefit-cost analysis. In Colonialism: A Moral Reckoning (William Collins, 2023), Nigel Biggar has stirred controversy by highlighting the many beneficial as well as baleful legacies of the British Empire.
Minister for Indigenous Australians Linda Burney found Price’s comments “offensive” and “a betrayal.” Yet Burney is a cabinet minister in a Westminster-style parliamentary government. Surely that counts as a positive continuing impact of colonisation? There are altogether 11 Aboriginal-Australian members of Australia’s parliament. Their status, Price noted, cannot but be diminished if the Voice is created as a de facto third chamber.
The emergence of Price as a powerful Aboriginal-Australian voice and an effective campaigner has both overshadowed and, so far at least, is sinking the Yes case. She has woven deeply personal stories of family dysfunction, alcoholism, domestic violence, sexual abuse of children, and murders as the everyday reality of people living in remote communities while the academic activists in the main cities obsess over colonial atrocities and a constitutional Voice.
In a previous article in the Weekend Australian, I had argued that Burney was prudent in refusing to agree to a public debate with Price because of the latter’s obvious superiority in intellectual firepower and cut-through messaging skills. (Burney does, however, have a good eye for designer glasses and clothing with Aboriginal motifs.)
After her NPC address, I believe Price would leave even Albanese in the dust in any public debate between the two. For Albanese seems to lack both the capacity and the inclination to master his brief on this signature initiative. Having repeatedly promised to implement the Uluru Statement from the Heart in full, the text of which runs to 26 pages, he insists it is only one page long. In an act of prime ministerial delinquency, he made the jaw-dropping confession that he had only read the cover page summary and asked “Why would I” read the rest?
Albanese accepted the activists’ maximalist demands in framing the referendum wording that requires a one Yes or No answer to two distinct questions: on recognition, and on a new body to be called the Voice. He rebuffed the opposition leader’s efforts to negotiate a bipartisan question. He rejected advice from Bill Shorten, a cabinet minister and former party leader, to first legislate a Voice body, enact recognition of Aboriginal Australians in the Constitution’s Preamble, let people become familiar with the workings of the Voice and, if it proves successful and people’s comfort level with it increases, only then consider a constitutional amendment at that stage.
Meanwhile, support for the Voice continues a downward slide in all public opinion polls. The rising support for No is emboldening more politicians and prominent Australians to come off the fence and also encouraging more citizens to speak up.
The Redbridge poll also asked voters to rank their reasons for opposing the Voice. In order, the top three reasons were its divisiveness, lack of details, and it won’t help Aboriginal-Australians.
As someone whose self-confessed animating passion in public life is the love of “fighting Tories,” perhaps Albanese misjudged the initial overwhelming but soft support for the Voice as a good issue on which to wedge the opposition coalition. Ironically, therefore, should the referendum fail as looks likely on present polls and their trajectory, Price will emerge with strengthened authority and enhanced credibility while Albanese will be a much diminished PM.
Murphy bowled over.
Football act.
Play on.
LG announces major recall of storage batteries on fire risks
Homeowners with solar panels are being warned some popular energy storage batteries could catch fire, cause serious injury or even death.
Homeowners with solar panels are being urgently warned to check their storage batteries after a major retailer revealed defects that could lead some of its products to overheat and catch fire.
LG Energy Solution Australia has recalled some of its energy storage system (ESS) home batteries, which are installed in residential energy solar systems, after some of them caught fire and caused damage to property.
Currently known systems that might contain affected batteries include LG branded RESU systems, SolaX Power Station, SolaX X-Cabinet, Opal Storage, Redback SH5000, Red Earth Sunrise, Red Earth Drop Bear, Eguana Evolve and VARTA Pulse Neo.
The batteries allow owners to capture and store energy from solar panels.
The affected batteries are equipped with cells containing electrodes from all production lots manufactured from January 21, 2016 to March 28, 2017 and September 14, 2018 to June 30, 2019.
The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission is calling on consumers to take “urgent action” and visit the LG ESS website to check if their batteries are affected.
“If a battery overheats, it may catch on fire and cause injury or death or damage to property. Incidents have occurred and caused damage to property,” the ACCC stated on Friday.
“If you have an affected battery and you are yet to receive diagnostic software either remotely or from a technician site visit, please switch the battery off and contact LGESAU to schedule a technician site visit to install the diagnostic software.
“To minimise the risk of fire, please keep the battery switched off until the diagnostic software is installed. If you are unsure how to switch your battery off, please contact LGESAU for assistance.”
Major traders including AGL Energy and Energy Australia have sold the batteries to customers.
Queensland neighbours show how Voice to Parliament is splitting Australia
Neighbours in a major city have decked out their houses with opposing messages on the Voice to Parliament referendum.
Stark photos from a quiet street in suburban Brisbane show the sharp divide in Australia between Yes and No voters on the approaching referendum for a Voice to Parliament.
David and Belinda Goodwin, fervent No supporters and members of the local LNP, decked out the porch of their house with a banner arguing for a No vote in the October 14 decision, which would embed a permanent Indigenous-led advisory body into the Constitution.
But their neighbours quickly hit back at the “No house”, painting their own house black with an Aboriginal flag and fixing Yes slogans to their windows.
“This has brought a lot of discussion,” Ms Goodwin told Nine’s A Current Affair last week.
“I’ve had a lot of letters in the letterbox, people calling out, I’ve got a sticker on my car so people will stop and talk.”
The Goodwins are a religious family with nine children and Mr Goodwin is a businessman.
Their neighbours were vegans from Melbourne, Mr Goodwin said.
“We’ve got an Australian flag, they’ve got an Aboriginal flag. They’re vegans from Melbourne, we’re a bunch of Catholics with a massive family from Queensland, so I suppose you couldn’t get more contrasting views,” he said.
The couple in the “Yes house” have not spoken with media and later released a statement via the official Yes23 campaign.
2023 Stradbroke Handicap winner Think About It (J: S. Clipperton; T: J. Pride) wins the $1 million Premiere Stakes at Randwick en route to the $20 million Everest for which he is now favourite.
Jelly Babies are an entirely acceptable basis for any commercial transaction.
1.8kg you say. Why did I not know this compelling fact?
Jelly Baby Fort Knox.
I think that I will buy four boxes and bathe in them.
Regular rotation of the guys at the front so fresh troops always faced a steadily tiring enemy.
Re “rotation” of Roman troops: not during the late Republic when generals relied on the loyalty of the troops – rank & file, & to a large extent, political appointments of officers. They were no longer the farmer/soldiers of old – but landless citizens who depended on successful generals to reward them at the end of their campaigns. Veterans were also very valued in the armies.
Some changes, though, during the Empire, when the armies became more professional, in our sense.
James Reyne was ahead of the curve on this one, even if no one understood what he was getting at.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N4ns3RsY9W0
We all think of the Roman Empire several times a day.
You mean like someone who bore false witness against Christ?
The Backpackers anthem.
The ALPFL going all out – the Seymour and Kate Hyphen singing the alternative Ozzie anthem – and a very tastee brunette in the orange dress and jackboots …
Is Mark Syemour the biggest one hit wonder in Australian history? The sheila on the keys in the background is not a bad looker, but she looks kinds retarded with the permanent dopey smile.
JC – Hunters and Collectors were not one hit wonders, Squire
Walk Away by the Hunters and Collectors is brilliant.
Sorry.
Blind Eye.
What have you heard him play on the past 25 years?
I’m just glad he’s still with us – a true Ozzie Rock legend
BTW, it seems we have a contest in the ALPFL grand final
Very nice silk dress on the young croonette.
Impressed.
That’s an unusual thing to say. Was he at risk?
Poor sweetie. *waves*
CARN THE PIES
AND GO PENRITH!!!…sorry I am having TOO much fun… 😉
Yesterday afternoon Hairy climbed to the highest point of the highest peak in the bald snaggle-toothed range of mountains we view from our valley hotel. He’d driven back up (I refused to go) to San Martino to get a gondola to above the treeline and another gondola to 500 metres below the top. From there he walked up a slope and then climbed the last 100 metres and brought back his selfies to prove it. One step either way and I would have gone immediately from 9000 metres to 6000, he says proudly. It’s testosterone, I say, gloried in our swanky resort hotel by a statue of a man standing on a needle point precipice. Hairy is not a man to let a few comorbidities at age 71 get in his way and the gondolas close on Sunday. This area caters for bikers and walkers in the summer season, which ends this weekend. There is then a hiatus in uncertain winds till the skiiing starts with the snow cover.
They are fond of statues around here. The memorial parc to Mr. Suez was also a statue garden. One in particular stood out, a reclining marble male torso, with no arms or head and cut off at the knees. I peered at it in surprise, for a very fine set of testicles was nestled between the statue’s legs, and draped over them was a Size Large but extremely flaccid penis. Then, in the bar of the hotel before dinner celebrating with cocktails Hairy’s adventure, we sat by another statue, this one depicting a naked female and male. The sculptor depicted them in close contrast, a pair, the woman’s shoulders narrower than the males and her arms more contoured, but she had absolutely no breasts nor nipples. The male’s torso was equally flattened, no musculature at all on arms or chest. The sculptor seemed to be rather against upper torsos. The lower parts of the sculpture were more sexually differentiated. She had a neat V between her quite large thighs, and he was far more overt, for the marble swooped smoothly over two testicles, which were again (the same sculptor?) covered in one line by his Size Large flaccid penis. These torsos had heads but no faces. They certainly made a definite point about male and female bodily differences. Influenced by the Greeks and their ‘toy boy’ penises this sculptor was certainly not. Michaelangelo’s David too can eat his heart out at his tiny endowment. They make ’em big here in the Alps.
Another thing I’ve noticed is that a lot of the men living here are very tall, over six foot two and more, and skinny with it. May be a northern Italian thing. Also Oetzi was said to be five foot four, but the book I purchased on the find says that he had shrunk ten cm in the ice, so was really a six footer too.
Be thankful the Roman Legion doesn’t burst into the room every time just like the Spanish Inquisition in that Monty Python sketch
Gosh. After the last travellogue, I was thinking of a different one. 😀
I commented to my son today: The best thibk about wearing a mask outside on a day like today is that the inevitable mask tanline is obscured by the mask.
Sorry, I think that may be 9000 ft not metres. Confusing when they use both.
A long way up however you measure it. Hairy says the admosphere was thin and he was breathing with a little difficulty until he got lower down. Silly you, old man, I say kissing his now bald head which matches the mountain.
Da ABS:
Rosie at Sep 30, 2023 1:38 PM
It is not clear why 2012 is relevant. The claim being discussed was a recent change over consecutive years.
Dr Faustus at Sep 30, 2023 2:44 PM
Unless you want to wait another 8 years, you can’t use a decadal average for comparison, there’s always single-year variance.
For both deaths and SDR:
It decreased slightly during the initial wave of the pandemic and lockdowns.
It went up slightly during the first jab rollout year 2021.
It went up even more during 2022.
The hypothesis and its claimed disproof again:
There was at no time in the period in question (2020-2022) a decrease in either total deaths or SDR. There was a rise. It was a tiny rise in SDR of 4% in 2021, disproving the hypothesis of mass jab deaths. But it was a rise both years in a row. End Of.
The excess deaths (relative to previous year averages) which are not covid deaths and implied to be jab deaths was estimated by actuaries at closer to 14000 in 2022 https://joannenova.com.au/2023/03/14000-australians-died-of-something-mysterious-last-year-and-no-one-wants-to-research-it/ and about 10000 in 2021 (see earlier article at Jo’s site). It was neither safe nor catastrophic.
FMD another one. DFAT needs one big clean out, governments of all cloths have been asleep at the wheel on this one:
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/09/china-in-worrying-new-alliance-with-timor-leste.html
The Pies’ 13 behinds – match losing stuff
our chief weapon is surprise!
Newsome will replace joe for 24. The US is already stuffed so it won’t matter. Not even Trump can restore it. The ramifications for Australia are huge. Newsome will trade Australia for Taiwan. So, the message is, as well as stocking up on candles, learn Mandarin. At least the 3rd nations won’t be an issue: the chunks will use them to replace the uyghurs as slaves and organ sources.
Even after recessions excess deaths can remain elevated for several years. That has been documented in many countries. The rise in excess death is not proof that vaccines are the cause.
I have a similar GP practice… and a similar doctor.
I pointed out to him last week that, given that Frankston Public hospital has dropped the mask mandate, perhaps it was time for the practice to let go… he shrugged resignedly, thanked me for some additional information and promised to try again.
I also mentioned the Cochrane Review, but he said he’d tried that, to no avail.
Pence Turd-
Pence said, “I haven’t agreed with every decision that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs has made in the last two years with a lot of the woke politics that have made their way into the Pentagon, but I expect all of that’s coming out of the Biden White House, and I’m grateful for General Milley’s long career of service in the uniform of the United States.”
ha ha Milley didn’t draw a salary then? Fuk off Pence you treacherous waste of space.Pence: Trump’s Comments Regarding Milley Were ‘Inexcusable’
I did get the fuel a few times, bern. Trouble is that I don’t live close enough to one to make it worthwhile. If there was no membership fee then I would pop in when in that neck of the woods. Their toilet paper was good from memory. You can get a friend with membership to buy you a gift card which apparently allows you to shop there.
Oh yeah, what a load of bullshit.
Cats and kittehs have recounted insurance and energy bills rising 25-30%. Rents have risen by at least that much. And, how they claim that grocery bills have risen in only single figures is inexplicable.
If Dutton and the SFLs had a grain of sense, they would be hammering the government nto the ground about this stuff.
Of course, what with their salaries and allowances, they wouldn’t have a clue.
Oh, and Cassie, thanks for revealing your true character yesterday.
As somebody who lives in Queanbeyan as opposed to Dover Heights, and allegedly uses ‘K Mart knives’ according to you – there is no need for me to point out just how ugly that snobbery is.
As I have said before, you are only a cigarette paper away from the Teals.
Whaaaam …
“As somebody who lives in Queanbeyan as opposed to Dover Heights, and allegedly uses ‘K Mart knives’ according to you – there is no need for me to point out just how ugly that snobbery is.
Firstly, I don’t live in Dover Heights. Oh and you started the fight with a nasty comment directed at me because it is quite apparent you just can’t help yourself. I responded. Your problem, Johanna, is that you’re frequently nasty, and if you can’t attack Lizzie, you go for the next best target. It’s quite sad.
As I have said before, you are only a cigarette paper away from the Teals.”
Nah, I’m not. You’ll have to try harder. I should pity you, I do pity you.
100% of the maximum capacity, 100,024, is the official crowd at the MCG AFL grand final.
Oh, and Marcia Langton says lots of nice things about David Marr’s new book.
Laurence Fox reacts to his GB News suspension.
I started the insurance chatter saying that the (premium) quote had risen by 35%. I demanded the broker get another quote and the new one is actually less than than last year by about 12 %. Go figure. I can’t explain it other than the other firm may have a full book on certain risk parameters. That’s what markets are about I suppose.
Dr. John Campbell
Sinister developments
We have a thriller!
The Pies storming home?
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Sep 30, 2023 4:16 PM
You did better than my wife yesterday, whom I dragged up the Wells Cave Track to Sugarloaf Peak in the Cathedral Ranges and back down the Canyon Track. Less of a hike and of a scramble, not to mention the squeeze of Wells Cave, which I just managed to fit through. Not bad for mid-50s, but I’m not expecting to attempt it again. Wife doesn’t mund a climbing trail (like, say, around Katoomba) but doesn’t want to attempt anything like this again. 🙂
Albansleazey with Stokesy – everything that is wrong with this country in a nutshell …
How unsurprising. David Marr believes that the sins of the fathers should be visited upon the sons even unto the 6th or 7th generation (except, of course, for communists and their sons, all of their sins are immediately absolved).
Poor Lions were teased all the way through the game.
I hate the Pies! But they’re absolutely magnificent!!!
The Pies! ?
marr – another tired old turd
Loser father dining out on sons success.
So much for the dodo emoji!
Ump won it for the Pies.
No Deddie McF*ckwit sightings?
I’ve been hearing that name Sidebottom for decades. There must be three gens of Sidebottoms playing footy, and cricket too I think. Obviously a nickname of sorts.
Indolent
Sep 30, 2023 5:08 PM
Laurence Fox reacts to his GB News suspension.
Fox made some comment that he wouldn’t shag Ava Santini because she was a feminist slag. His apology after being suspended was as usual pathetic. Santini, as far as I know has not made a stand against the trannies so a slightly red blooded bloke offending her is the issue not the pretend sheilas who are destroying women.
Laurence should hang out with some cute owls: they kick trannie butt.
Poor ol’ McLuggage …
The Pies’ 13 behinds – match losing stuff
GOOD OLD COLLININGWOOD FOREVA…!!!
W000TTT…By 4 points… 🙂
One loss for QLD; another tomorrow and palchook is rooted.
Hahaha. That’s normally the Pies ferals’ excuse for a loss.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Sep 30, 2023 4:16 PM
Might be a bit late in the year for true comparative research in the lacal parks, Lizzie!
Poor old cloggie doesn’t like it if she’s on the receiving end.
18 behinds / or 18 points for missing in the end Rabs.
Fair comment!
“Oh, and Cassie, thanks for revealing your true character yesterday.”
I’ll just say this, and this will be the last time I ever engage/respond to you. There’s a Hebrew word “chutzpah”, and your comment above reveals you to be, sadly, full of chutzpah. What about your “true character”? What about the amount of times over the years you, for no reason, have launched into Lizzie here on this site, abusing her, calling her names and so on. Almost always unsolicited. There have been countless times, and it’s been vicious and abusive.
I like a lot of what you write here, you usually have something interesting to say but alas, at times, you just go off the rails. It’s sad. I don’t wish you any ill will, but I will now just scroll and ignore you, even if and when you decide to abuse me. I will not care.
Collingwood’s Bobby Hill wins the 2023 Norm Smith Medal.
Who’s the Collingwood player with the gorgeous, dyed shoulder length blonde hair?
Cassie – Last night you were commenting on Russians and art. I tried to respond but couldn’t post/site went down. In any case, you are correct – it’s not until you go there you realise that they would probably go without food to ensure the arts survived.
Even small villages seem to have an art theatre which is used for plays, singing groups, visiting ballet, musicians/bands, even visiting or resident poets. The bigger the town, the more they have.
Kislovodsk (pop 135,000) has three substantial arts centres – all of which are in regular use. We visit another town, Syktyvkar (more of Mrs Speedbox’s relatives), which is about 1,200km NE of Moscow. That town, (pop 240,000) has its own philharmonic orchestra plus theatres galore. All used frequently. The orchestra actually tour the region to popular acclaim!
Art and culture are a ‘big deal’ in Russia and have been for a very long time. Studying music is a routine school course that leads to other artistic pursuits. That , or chess. (Mrs Speedbox was never an artistic participant although she loves to watch the ballet – but she is a formidable chess player).
Art in all its forms, whether as a participant or observer, seems to be part of the Russian DNA. In some respects, that also extends into sports such as rhythmic gymnastics and ice skating which can both be beautifully artistic.
True. I like Joh’s comments. Her ‘slice of life’ posts and ‘speaking from experience’ posts are always good. Until she objects to others doing the same when she goes full MetaÇat. Don’t go full MetaÇat.
As noted, 5.3 is the 8-year average not a decadal average.
As for the rest, you seem to have lost your way.
Fox looks completely stuffed. No job, reputation besmirched because he “offended” a smirking, beastly, preening and dishonest female.
She even brought up the “women unsuccessful” furphy, the cheek of her. Men are successful because they mean it.
Lozza, get out of the UK.
Oh, He’s the capt.
David Marr believes that the sins of the fathers should be visited upon the sons even unto the 6th or 7th generation
These people are weird. You don’t find them slagging off the Germans, Japanese, and Italians about World War II, but by their own logic all three nations should be berated forever.
But don’t bother coming to Australia. You will not find peace or respect here.
YouTube still ramming anti Trump agitprop down my throat. It would almost be comical if it wasn’t so evil and spiteful. Who the buggery is David Pakman?
pressure is pressure
nail-biting stuff
and a talent show-case from both sides
magnificent
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Sep 30, 2023 4:16 PM
Yesterday afternoon Hairy climbed to the highest point of the highest peak in the bald snaggle-toothed range of mountains we view from our valley hotel. He’d driven back up (I refused to go) to San Martino.
I managed to get to the top of a 12,000 foot peak above sea level (one of many that were at 14,000 feet and higher) in the Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado USA. Luckily, the car park was at 11,500 feet.
Mind you, that 500 foot climb up the steps to the top at 12,000 feet was tough in that rarified air.
“Speedbox
Sep 30, 2023 5:39 PM”
Thank you, my brother-in-law’s mother is White Russian. Her mother’s family fled Petersburg after the revolution, they settled in Latvia where she was born. She has long said that culture is as important for the body and soul as food.
“”Lozza, get out of the UK.
He said as much last night in his discussion with the two Triggernometry guys.
Especially when I am reclining on my couch in my toga.
JMH, the UK is toxic. You visit there, keep the tv off see the sights enjoy the history leave.
And it’s cold.
Even here it’s better.
He’ll probably end up in Spain, or maybe Croatia.
Woman after my own heart she is, because high stuff is not for girls of any age. I was stupid and did speliology (caving) in my early uni years because I was wanting to be one of the bold girls not the timid ones. But really, my true self is timid. Except when it comes to words. I am not scared of them.
My nerves are still shot to pieces from the drive over and down these alpine regions into the valleys. We have to retrace a terrible set today to then continue on to another valley where we will stay two days, then I’ve put my foot down. Get me off these Alps please after that. It’s only the Dolomites, he says, and some are bigger than these. I’ll be glad to read about it, is my only reply. On the flat.
Art in all its forms, whether as a participant or observer, seems to be part of the Russian DNA.
Many years ago I visited Russia and also Ukraine. I went to an opera in the beautiful old opera house in Kyiv. Just before curtain call a little, tubby Ukrainian matron (in very rustic clothes) dashed in and found a seat. I heard that the poor could claim any empty seats for just a few kopeks (or whatever it was). Her delight was obvious.
Also managed to go to the Bolshoi when in Moscow. This was in the days of Peristroika, when everything was still scarce, and I recall we had sheet sherry ( or something like it) and fruit cake at interval!