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Exploding pagers and walkie-talkies, eh? What will go off next? Their Sony Walkmans? The telex machine?
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Holland also produced a substantial number of volunteers for the SS. I had a workmate who told me his Grandfather…
This was a cyber attack similar to the Stuxnet worm that crippled Iran’s nuclear facilities a decade or so ago.…
Vicki
Oct 10, 2023 3:07 PM
The road block we encountered when travelling to our farm during the Covid lockdown, the necessity for “travel documents” reminiscent of East Germany, and the aggressive manner of the police was a shock from which I refuse to recover.
I checked Teal member for the heavily Jewish District of Goldstein VIC Zoe Daniel’s views. They seem to have changed somewhat since she became the local member.
In 2017, when she was an ABC journalist, Zoe Daniel wrote that then US president Donald Trump declared Jerusalem Israel’s capital as a way of “satisfying his wealthy Jewish donors”.
But now, seeing which side her bread is buttered, she writes
Carefully calibrated words, and easy to understand her change in view based on the political imperative. Perhaps uncharitable?
JC
All very well in theory, but how much of their abhorrent behaviour actually appeared on the MSM/ If the MSM reported these events even-handedly, your argument would have strength, but they do NOT. See the comment by Muddy immediately above yours.
This whole thing reminds me of the scene in The Godfather after the meeting of the five families, and the Godfather was in the car with Tom.
The Godfather says to Tom that it was never Tattaglia, as he was just a pimp. The real culprit for the hit was Barzini.
Hamas are just the pimps, and Iran is Barzini.
Yes, yes.
But what do Zoe’s children think?
When a dog has rabies…
‘History… is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake.’
Seem apt.
“Carefully calibrated words, and easy to understand her change in view based on the political imperative. Perhaps uncharitable?”
No, not uncharitable. That is the truth. Both she and Spender are babies of Svengali Simon, whose politics and positions, particularly on Israel, are well known (as are his family’s positions, his mother is a well known for her anti-Israeli politics).
I don’t know about Goldstein, but here in Wentworth, I have a strong feeling that Allegra da Big Spender will be a one big hit wonder.
Good get, Barry.
MPs don’t need charitability, they need their feet held to the fire.
Voted at my local polling station. There were 4 volunteers on the “No” booth handing out HTV cards. Only 3 on the “Yes”. The billboards set out (at the regulation distance from the polling station) were matched 1 to 1. Queensland is not keen on this assault on democracy.
There is something wrong with people in the inner cities. Not sure what it is. Luxury beliefs maybe.
Free to air carried it. I can’t recall which channel had it, but I saw part of it around 6.30 last evening.
We had about a dozen people working at the family business today and when I walzed some were chatting about it. I heard a conversation as I was getting a coffee this morning. I think it’s out there.
Here’s The Melbourne Age stories right now.
1. Israel ‘retakes control’ of Gaza border fence; Australian synagogues beef up security
2. ‘Lower the temperature’: Albanese calls for calm
As footage emerged of at least four Israelis being executed by Hamas, the Palestinian militant group threatened to kill one hostage for every Israeli attack.
3. ‘There will be more protests’: Sydney pro-Palestine rally organiser
4. Young people went to a festival to celebrate life. Hundreds were slaughtered before their eyes
In all of Israel, those on that fated festival dancefloor were among those most likely to only seek peace.
5. What is Hamas and why is it at war with Israel?
Melbourne herald
1. Dutton slammed for ‘small view’ on Gaza
Peter Dutton has been sensationally accused of seeking to politicise the Israel-Gaza conflict just hours after he received a high-level briefing about the attacks.
2. ‘Gas them’: Vile Israel slur at Sydney protest
Video has emerged of an angry mob of pro-Palestinian protesters in Sydney chanting a horrific slur against Jewish people.
3. Israel attack planned by ‘handful of Hamas commanders’
A Hamas official claims the attack on Israel was planned by only a “handful of commanders”, as Israel mobilised 300,000 troops for a massive ground invasion. Follow the updates. Warning: Graphic
Channel Nine News
Channel seven news
Politics‘Deplorable’ pro-Palestine Opera House march condemned
I don’t think it’s been hidden.
Higher res pix
A good reminder, Calli. Yes, how do her brainwashed children “think”!
The same failed Aboriginal bureaucrats will run the Voice
‘Joe Biden betrayed Israel’: Trump blames Biden and ‘his boss Barack Hussein Obama’ for Hamas attack
What worries me is that the NSW police have apparently learnt nothing from the Lindt Cafe experience. They are already signalling whose rights are of more importance.
Who knows where this will lead.
Nice concept.
When you hold passionate views about something that doesn’t actually affect you.
Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
Ep. 29 After the Hamas attacks, what’s the wise path forward?
Message from Tehran: Actually, we don’t want to open the door one night, only to be shot in the face.
I think we already know the answer to that – as I posted upthread. Watch your backs!
This is a keeper.
It describes so many people that I know, friends, acquaintances and, sadly, family.
Kez
Not for nothing, but of all people, should you really be saying that?
quite an amazing bloke.
One of the greatest achievements of that whole campaign was keeping the team together and not losing one man.
A year and a half from being stuck in pack ice through to the rescue of the Elephant Island team.
Other members like Captain Worsley demand their own shrines – his account of the boat voyage is a humbly understated saga.
Bern at 2:48 PM, Vicki at 3:03 PM and JC at 3:46 PM today nail it.
This is why Gaza should be annexed, the militant groups destroyed and then the Iranian leadership is retaliated against to the point where they are unstable.
Whoever tries these sorts of terrorist attacks again, the same will happen to them.
The reason a lot of people, Aboriginal & non, are voting No.
Finally! Obama, Bill Clinton break days-long silence on Israel war
Took them long enough.
Former Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton issued statements Monday evening condemning Hamas’ bloody blitz on Israel — more than two full days after the terrorist atrocity began.
“All Americans should be horrified and outraged by the brazen terrorist attacks on Israel and the slaughter of innocent civilians,” Obama wrote on X, formerly Twitter, soon after 5 p.m.
“We grieve for those who died, pray for the safe return of those who’ve been held hostage, and stand squarely alongside our ally, Israel, as it dismantles Hamas,” he continued. “As we support Israel’s right to defend itself against terror, we must keep striving for a just and lasting peace for Israelis and Palestinians alike.”
Obama famously had an icy relationship with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who gave a speech to the GOP-led House of Representatives in 2015 assailing the 44th president’s Iran nuclear agreement.
Almost exactly one hour later, Clinton weighed in.
“I condemn the horrific terrorist assault carried out by Hamas in Israel, and mourn the senseless loss of life. My heart is with all those affected by the violence, including American families. Now is a time for the world to rally against terrorism and to support Israeli democracy,” the 42nd president said in his own X post.
“I stand with the government of Israel and all Israelis, and urge them to stand together. This is a moment to focus on purpose over politics.”
Clinton helped broker the mid-1990s Oslo Accords between the Palestinians and Israelis, which ultimately failed to usher in peace between the two sides.
Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 10, 2023 5:36 PM
Yes. I have a chilled bottle of Champagne to be opened around 6 pm on he 14th. I hope the result is an overwhelming NO. For Jacinta and Warren, in particular.
And I’ll add something else – I have to make sure that this doesn’t include me.
I have been humbled today by Rev. Leach and his daughter Freya. This sort of stuff takes guts.
I often wonder if she was the daughter of Carla Zampatti ‘who attended the very boring’ dinner with George Pell
.
I have a reverse Midas touch. No advance preparation for winning, from me.
Where are the vigils to counter these pro-pali rallies?
Yeah – I bet they did. It is what these two ghouls said under their breath is what I want to hear.
What a thrill to see it all coming apart for the arrogant, corrupt Liars:
The digusting Voice scam being under water; and interestingly, very few of his senior goons attempting to rescue it, infact, standing well clear;
Albanese’s unbelieveable stupidity in going snivelling to Lakemba for votes, an action that lost more votes across the country than he gained from his pet thugs.
The admittedly coincidental but devestating impact of Labor and the Greens being unable to fall in line with the whole Nation and unconditionally condemn Hamas.
The hilarious spectacle of his Mussie pets not only terminally offending the nation, but breaking laws with no consequences.
The thrill of watching affirmative action moronic ‘ministers’ falling at the first hurdle. Not just one, a basket full of them.
The joy of seeing the political police squirming as a result of their own racist and political bias and there being no Andrews type character to cover for them.
Watching Albanese demonstrate conclusively that he cannot function without a prepared speech. Absolutely incapable of coherently justifying his f’ups.
And the cherry on the cake, Spender being forced out of her cave to condem, not Hamas about whom the has said nothing, not the Lakemba Mussies, but the Government. The Jewish people in her electorate will remember that it took 72 hours for her to say anything about antisemitism, and she has still not condemned Hamas.
Nexr up, net zero and IR.
‘ The Week They Drove the Old Liars Down’.
Again, don’t ever think Israel doesn’t have “diversity” of views.
Get a load of this headline to a story written by an Israeli leftist piece of shit.
The bodies are still warm.
https://www.newsweek.com/netanyahu-haaretz-israel-gaza-blame-attack-1832963
They’re just as rabid leftists like others in the rest of the western world.
Morally bereft Dem Socialists like AOC won’t even condemn Hamas unequivocally
By Post Editorial Board
New York’s socialist politicians are showing their true colors — and they’re not pretty.
Of 17 socialist pols The Post called for reaction to the Democratic Socialists’ celebration Sunday of Hamas’ massacre of Israelis, not one offered a simple, unequivocal condemnation.
Do their constituents have any idea how morally bankrupt their representatives are?
After Hamas terrorists savagely slaughtered more than 900 Israelis and kidnapped 150 others (grandmothers, babies, young kids), when Israel’s supporters and those who’ve lost loved ones are still grieving, pro-massacre protesters at the DSA rally came out to rub salt in the wound.
Some brandished swastikas; others burned the Israeli flag.
Yet none of the soulless New York politicians we called could state in simple, unadulterated language what should be a moral no-brainer: that Hamas’ butchery is repugnant, and nothing whatsoever justifies it.
Our reporters reached out to Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Jamaal Bowman, state Sens. Julia Salazar, Jabari Brisport and Kristen Gonzalez, five Assembly members, five City Council members, Public Advocate Jumaane Williams and city Comptroller Brad Lander.
Most couldn’t bring themselves even to return the call, knowing New Yorkers would be repulsed by their callous inhumanity.
Nor was labor union SEIU 1199, which has funded DSA-backed candidates, brave enough to respond.
Three pols did comment but offered shockingly muddled statements.Could be Labor Politicians in Australia
Brisport broadly condemned any “glorification of death” but made sure to blast supposed “atrocities against Palestinians.”
Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani condemned the rally’s “rhetoric” but also noted his “support for Palestinian liberation.”
(Uh, Gazans do need liberating — from Hamas, not Israel.)
AOC didn’t respond or comment on the rally but blasted Hamas’ attack Saturday, while also railing about (Israel’s) “oppression and occupation” — and seeking a ceasefire that would let terrorists suffer no consequences and keep the hostages they took.
Lander also didn’t call back but slammed the protest in a tweet, while also stressing the need to work for “an end to the [Israeli] Occupation.”
City Councilwoman Tiffany Cabán, meanwhile, tweeted her “heart is with” all Israelis and Palestinians killed but “nothing can free everyday Israelis from danger and fear unless it also frees everyday Palestinians from oppression and occupation.”
Hmm. That a threat?
(Oh, and memo to AOC, Lander, Cabán & Co.: Israel does not “occupy” Gaza; the only Israelis there are those Hamas brutally kidnapped.)
explained by Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs.
Jason Statham – The Beekeeper.
Burning down the CBDC, executing the FBI… looks based. A must-see!
Brutality of Hamas attack on Israel ‘unprecedented’
alternatively – when is the next pro-pali rally.. so that I may turn up with an Israeli flag.
White House to light up in Israeli flag colors after Sen. Lindsey Graham calls out delay
The White House will be illuminated in white and blue Monday night, hours after Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called on President Biden to light up the executive mansion with the colors of the Israeli flag.
Graham noted that numerous world landmarks have done the same in a show of solidarity with Israel after Hamas terrorists launched a surprise attack on the Jewish state over the weekend that has left over 900 Israelis dead and over 2,150 wounded.
“I’m urging the Biden administration to cloak the White House tonight in the Israeli flag. You did it for pride month. I want to see the Israeli flag over the White House,” Graham said during an appearance on Fox News.
New York’s Empire State Building, the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, the UK Parliament building in London and Paris’ Eiffel Tower are among the well-known structures that have been lit up in the colors of the Israeli flag since Saturday’s attack, the biggest on Israel in 50 years.
Minutes before nightfall on Monday, National Security Council spokesman John Kirby announced that the White House would do so as well.
Why it will become increasingly unlikely that our politicians and police forces will do anything other than what they did over the last 48 hours in similar circumstances.
The four nations including Ireland who blocked EU suspending funds to Palestine
The European Commission earlier said “there will be no suspension of payments” but it wasn’t clear which member states blocked the decision, until now.
The EU’s plan to suspend all financial aid to Palestine has been blocked by four of the bloc’s member states.
Spain, Denmark, Ireland and Luxembourg have been named as the countries which rejected a move by the European Commission to put more than $728 million of aid under review.
The European Commission said on Monday “there will be no suspension of payments”, just five hours after it was stated that all payments from the development programme for Palestine would be “immediately suspended. All projects put under review. All new budget proposals … postponed until further notice.”
However, until now, it wasn’t clear which member states were blocking the suspension and no immediate explanation for the reversal was given.
Given the lamentably inexpert intellectual equipment of modern j’ismists I would expect that, if they were to report on palaeontological history, their ridiculous virtue-theatre reflex of denigrating their own nation, species, or skin complexion* would have them describing the Permian as a shameful period of racism and bigotry because the stem-mammal synapsids ‘owned’ it, and the Permian Triassic extinction event as a righteous intervention by a sentient Gaia to repair the terrible off-kilter bearing-grinding rotation of the Earth to the smoothly humming age of reptiles.
Quite so. The only Israeli stuff that “occupied” Gaza was electricity, water and food.
Calls for the Israelis to “get out” have been obeyed.
Be careful what you wish for.
Uncle Luigi starting up the band:
‘No alternative’: Anthony Albanese’s stern warning on Voice referendum
Actually, exactly nobody appears to be saying “we can just keep doing the same”. More like “you’ve behaved like the shitty retail politician you are from the get go and we don’t trust you or your scummy mates with the Constitution”.
So, the toxic gnome who hasn’t read the Uluru Statement in full (“why would I”) but has promised to implement it in full, is going to sit down with the Greens and sort out a bureaucratic structure and process that is going to advise the Federal Parliament on matters that lie in State and Local government jurisdiction – Health, Education, Justice, and Housing – and something modest but mighty is going to come out of it?
Trust us, we’re Top Men.
Must say I am not a fan of lighting up public buildings with the colours of foreign countries. Or any sort of virtue signalling with public buildings when it comes to that.
It’s the light show version of wearing ribbons. And like Kramer, I don’t want to wear the ribbon.
Noel Pearson: “Frankly, the voice is a proposal so pathetically understated that I’m amazed most Indigenous people are settling for it… I helped design it as something so modest that no reasonable non-Indigenous Australian could reject it. More fool me.”
Yep fatso, you’ve burnt the money, now you’re burning the goodwill. I hope a rejection of Their Voice hits Pearson, Langdon, Grant, Burney, Martin et al as a rejection of the last fifty years of separatism, sit-down welfare, big-man d*ck swinging and buck-passing.
Hamas doesn’t give a damn what the Israeli government is or what it does – left, centre, or right – they are utterly obsessed with wiping out all Israelis, regardless of any concessions Israel may make.
Haaretz sounds like a far left rag.
Has no-one heard of the Hebron massacre? There are plenty of precedents.
Did the Israelis ” Maginot” themselves?
Being so enamoured of the strength of their walls they forgot they are only as strong as the force manning them, and a fixed point is a fixed point for artillery and other means of breaching them.
Did they dismiss warning signs because they were sure any attacker would Batter themselves uselessly outside?
I am absolutely unsurprised that Ireland is one of them.
Oh, you mighty warriors of Islam, making war on women and children! I’ll bet you sh!t yourselves when the Golani Brigade show up!
Retired Gen., Former CIA Director Michael Hayden Apparently Just Called For the Death of a U.S. Senator
+900
Indolent
Oct 10, 2023 5:30 PM
Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
Ep. 29 After the Hamas attacks, what’s the wise path forward?
The path forward is to nuke iran and flatten every palli stronghold.
Wally Dalí
Oct 10, 2023 5:58 PM
Oh but I think the fire-dragon has awakened. WHERE has ALL that money (40 to 60 billion) gone Noel. I support Jacinta wanting to rip the band-aid off this festering scab. Let’s hear it. Where have the billions devoted to the abo industry over decades gone?
Hayden and Clapper are genuinely scum. The temerity required to make such pronouncements or otherwise bear false witness as they have is the birthing of the deep state, if it never existed before.
GreyRanga
I mentioned a couple of days ago for Cats to make sure they had full tanks in their cars and perhaps a couple of Jerry Cans as a reserve.
Israel may just get pissed off enough with the EU to take out Kharg Island – Irans major oil and transfer point.
A spring on our garage door broke this afternoon, and so I called a service to get it repaired urgently, otherwise we were stuck. A young dude showed up. I couldn’t figure out the accented English he was speaking and found out he’s Israeli.
I got to talking to him at the end of the job about things there. He told me six of his friends are dead, and a girl he knows has been taken. He said he’s been called up as his unit is about to begin training. He’s not sure if he goes back now, though, because call-up is voluntary if you’re overseas and they really don’t need soldiers at the moment.
We have a lunatic for a pope. Or perhaps just a typical hypocrite who lives like a king which trying to deny others a comfortable lifestyle. Sort of like sellout Charlie.
Pope Francis Blames America First
I agree, 100%
Iranian football fans demand removal of Palestinian flags from stadium
Wally Dalí
Oct 10, 2023 5:48 PM
Jason Statham – The Beekeeper.
Burning down the CBDC, executing the FBI… looks based. A must-see!
Looks good. Lets hope Trump has a cameo.
Cranky Frankie is an evil old commie turd from wayback. Put there by the international left.
No prisoners. This is War.
Over 80 Percent of Americans Refused the Last COVID Booster: Study
Lee:
There are enough, more than enough, brain dead petrol sniffing lunatics out there to become handy suicide bombers for the Muslim fanatics.
Remember this poor little bugger?
FMD; Credlin interviewing Andrew Clennell about the palli protest. He looks as though he’s ready to rip heads off. Very pissed with the official response.
The Modern Left and the Problem of Proportion
Every one, Cronkite? Including Western Sydney?
Cronkite, Gaza isn’t exactly distant from Israel as it could be deemed inside Israel and so is the West Bank. You can’t nuke without radiation killing your own. Presumably, you also want to nuke the West Bank too?
Look at the map. Nuking Gaza and or the West Bank would be suicidal for Israel. Thank Allah, you’re not a high level military commander.
Whoops
Map
Just went onto SBW’s Twitter account and asked whether Mrs Warner was a good root. Excited about how he responds.
Arky, in all honesty, why would you care?
You’ve already told us you won’t submit a formal vote.
I like you very much, but how on earth do you hope to achieve anything?
Robert Sewell
Oct 10, 2023 3:41 PM
If you have to ask that question then you don’t really know if *their* citizenship can be removed.
I’m no lawyer, buuuut last time I heard, it was illegal to make a person stateless. Every person is supposed to be a citizen of some country somewhere. This arises in refugee cases typically. So you have to determine that they have citizenship of another country concurrently and which one it is, so you can return them to that country when that becomes their only one.
I suppose the other real answer to your question is that the process by which people become stateless the most often is that they die. Aside from that, there’s no other legal way.
Just catching up on the OT, saw the map of the modelled inVoice voting intentions, for each electorate, published in the Daily Mail.
All the NO volunteer in one of the major pre-poll booths in Western Sydney, including me, disagree with the darkest purplish colouring given in the Daily Mail article.
These are all electorates of a lower-than-average socio-economic status and a high migrant population ie. the exact wrong indicators for high YES vote support.
Our straw polling is that the NO vote is winning, with almost universal appeal among the Lebanese (Muslims and Maronites), Chinese, eastern Europeans and Vietnamese, regardless of age.
The YES vote seems to be virtually limited to the Anglos, especially, but not exclusively, the older cohorts.
Thus, one has to wonder about the conclusions drawn by the Daily Mail.
My totally unproven theory is that the migrant groups obtain significant amounts of their news outside the appalling Oz MSM. Hence, they may have a greater awareness of, and independence from, the strictly prosecuted woke narratives which are central to the marketing of the inVoice.
I was also impressed with many migrants’ (especially older Vietnamese refugees) acute understanding of the general sense of grift and inefficiency in Aboriginal policies, including some unsubtle discussions of the average Aboriginal’s reputation for laziness, mooching and unreliability.
They even argued this point with some of the pushier YES volunteers.. an amusing and satisfying experience.
It almost makes one believe humans can be a sentient species.
Robert S
It would be a disaster for the world, but much more rational than nuking any cities.
There would be a bad period of oil shortage, particularly in the northern hemisphere winter, but the US and ME countries (other than Iran, of course) could increase production to cover the gap. A bad period like 1973 would happen, but the world would survive. It would not survive a nuclear war.
Alright HP; start with iran and wait until the wind is blowing the other way. Without iran the hamas dogs will fold and some mass hangings will have to do. Then tear down every palli building, send them back to the Sinai and build farms on the land.
JMH
Oct 10, 2023 6:16 PM
Come back, BRS, all is forgiven! 😀
Razey
They did.
Leaflets were dropped over multiple Japanese cities well before the bomb was dropped.
Watching footage of the police standing by whilst Nazis screamed ‘gas the Jews’ on the steps of the Sydney Opera House.
I am quite distressed.
From CDR Salamander.
An excellent first of three articles.
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What’s this in reference to?
Explain.
Razey: Oct 10, 2023 4:26 PM
I guess America could have warned people to leave Hiroshima before they dropped the bomb but saving enemy lives it wasn’t the purpose now was it.
Before the first A-bombing, leaflets were dropped across Japan. On the city of Hiroshima, the first target, 720,000 leaflets were dropped two days prior to the atomic strike. They warned (as the Potsdam Declaration had promised) of the “inevitable and complete destruction of the Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the utter devastation of the Japanese homeland.”
The first A-bombing did not bring the war to an end, nor did an Allied propaganda campaign, post the initial strike, of informing the Japanese people of what happened. On 8-9 August, American aircraft dropped new leaflets across Japan. They read:
We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2,000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate. We have just begun to use this weapon against your homeland. If you still have any doubts, make inquiry as to what happened to Hiroshima when just one atomic bomb fell on that city.
Allied radio stations transmitted a similar message to Japan every 15 minutes. By 9 August, more than five million leaflets had been dropped. Further leaflets gave warning of further bombing, even to the extent of naming the cities to be targeted:
Read this carefully as it may save your life or the life of a relative or friend. In the next few days, some or all of the cities named on the reverse side will be destroyed by American bombs. These cities contain military installations and workshops or factories which produce military goods. We are determined to destroy all of the tools of the military clique which they are using to prolong this useless war. But, unfortunately, bombs have no eyes. So, in accordance with America’s humanitarian policies, the American Air Force, which does not wish to injure innocent people, now gives you warning to evacuate the cities named and save your lives.
America is not fighting the Japanese people but is fighting the military clique which has enslaved the Japanese people. The peace which America will bring will free the people from the oppression of the military clique and mean the emergence of a new and better Japan. You can restore peace by demanding new and good leaders who will end the war. We cannot promise that only these cities will be among those attacked but some or all of them will be, so heed this warning and evacuate these cities immediately.
Leaflets “in Japanese with the full text of the government’s conditional surrender offer of August 10, along with Byrnes’ response” were dropped by B-29 on 14 August. Some of them even ended up in the Imperial Palace gardens in Tokyo. They carried more than just the consequence of ignoring them – the military propaganda had been so effective almost all of the military did not know of any thoughts of surrender. But the leaflets and broadcasts had little effect. For example, there was no mass revolution, or even the suggestions of civilian unrest. Even after the dropping of the first A-weapon, as Kase put it:
the authorities tried to drown out the powerful enemy broadcasts…but these broadcasts in excellent Japanese exercised a great influence on the minds of the people. When it became no longer possible to suppress the truth, the Army attempted to minimize the destructive power of the bomb.
Sources may be found in the original footnoted text
The following need to be sacked….
1. The NSW Police Minister.
2. The NSW Attorney General.
3. The NSW Police Commissioner.
4. The NSW Deputy Police Commissioner.
By the way, it’s clear Bowen and Burke support what happened in Israel last Saturday.
Italics fail – this was the original text:
Razey: Oct 10, 2023 4:26 PM
I guess America could have warned people to leave Hiroshima before they dropped the bomb but saving enemy lives it wasn’t the purpose now was it.
Your point?
Israel is in pound mode.
Gaza Live: Real-time HD Camera Feeds from Gaza
Put your headphones on.
Fair Shake:
One of the interesting things about the Norks/Southnorks is the tunneling. To put in seismometers every 50 meters across the dividing line to catch the tunneling vibrations, the good guys have just drilled holes and filled them with water. Any vibration in the rock disturbs the surface of the water. Doesn’t work too well when the temp drops during winter and the water freezes but.
Don’t be, Cassie. They are uncovered now. It’s important to recognise allies.
Arky, you said you would deface your ballot while compulsory voting remains.
Did I misunderstand you?
Cassie,
I wish I could give you a hug. Please accept one across these pages. 😀
I’m not apologising, but I was wrong to get on my high horse at Cassie a few years back when she described these people as animals.
Animals they are.
Nasty and dumb ones.
NSW Labor show their true colours.
NSW Police Minister refuses to apologise to Jewish community after unapproved pro-Palestine rally involved anti-Semitism (Sky News, 10 Oct)
‘No application for the protest to go ahead’: Rally in support for Palestinian people went ahead illegally (Sky News, 10 Oct)
So they allowed it to go ahead illegally, and refuse to apologise. Well I think we know everything we need about the Labor Party now.
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I oppose compulsory voting on principle.
The electoral act makes it illegal for me to encourage anyone to not vote. One must be careful around this topic.
I will happily vote when I can do so without being compelled to do so and thus mix my vote in with every other idiot.
As to the referendum, I haven’t commented on it at all except to Robert after he asked today. So I’m not sure why you are asking me “why would you care”.
Minns had better have some answers to this.
No amount of cute and cuddly (and femaleness whatever that is today) can excuse his reprehensible Police Minister.
JMH
Oct 10, 2023 5:43 PM
Will there be a live blog of the count?
It would almost be worth plugging in the TV for.
SLAP
Ouch. Thanks mum. I was weakening there, but not for long.
It’s really simple Arky. This referendum is done by raw numbers, not representational. In other words, every vote counts.
If you spoil your ballot, your vote is null and void.
If that is what you plan to do (personally, I don’t think you are trying to influence others) then the outcome must be meaningless.
I tried to listen to Melanie Phillips, one of the worst um sayers I have ever heard. I will just read her articles in future.
TikTok has stopped all Hamas videos.
It’s gone from being everywhere to nothing.
And ones from yesterday that I saved have been deleted.
Voting is not compulsory! You can eat the ballot paper if you wish. You only get fined for not having your name crossed off the roll.
I’m happy to have ‘compulsory’ voting provided I can number as few or as many boxes on the ballot paper as I wish.
It’s like Boutique Power – when you have solar panels, a big Tesla battery, and drive around in an EV that is subsidised by extra taxes and charges on poor people.
Stand by for the “police’ in other states to ‘protect’ their genuine citizens – regardless mueslis and Pali supporters who will be given free rein.. We know how well that worked during the Covid “wars’. What we do know is who or what exactly controls our police forces.
Israel is not f*cking around.
They are levelling the joint.
In come the fighter jets … those drone sounds dominate.
Boom!
Live link above.
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Calli, if I could vote a dozen times like the left do, it might make mathematical sense to give a damn and try to figure out exactly what this “voice” thing is all about, and maybe even to violate my principal of refusing to ever do anything I’m told.
However, I think it’s likely just a load of old cobblers and heading for a heavy defeat.
Arky, defeat can only happen if enough people turn up.
I learned my lesson a couple of years ago.
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Alright.
I’m opposed to the compulsion to turn up and draw an arse on the ballot.
Whatever part of the whole palaver is compulsory, I oppose.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Oct 10, 2023 6:18 PM
So much barbarism! We can be shocked and angry, but we can’t comprehend a fraction of the turmoil faced by these poor people.
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Ummm.
Sorry for the visuals there.
Apropos of nothing:
If one were to put ‘Albo calls off referendum before nominated polling day’ in a multi, it would pay hugely – but still worth a lazy pineapple.
Tim Blair has just uploaded this from Jim Treacher…..
UPDATE III. Jim Treacher is correct, as Jim Treacher so often is:
If you murder hundreds of people at a music festival, if you rape women and parade their naked corpses down the street, if you kidnap children and wheelchair-bound grandmothers from their homes, there’s no such thing as a ceasefire.
You’re a barbarian, and you want the world to shudder at your approach. You wanted to provoke a response, and now you’re getting it.
I don’t care what anybody thinks Israel has done. Save your “whatabouts” for someone who cares. Tell it to the mothers whose daughters were raped and butchered and desecrated.
Thank you Jim.
In the Australian TV media, A Current Affair host Ally Langdon has been a real surprise.
Earlier this week, Langdon took apart arrogant rich white leftard establishment journalist Ray Martin, who of course lined up with the wealthy on the Voice.
Tonight Langdon interviewed a young Australian-raised female Jew who’s now a military reservist in Israel.
I expected nothing of Langdon after the departure of Tracy Grimshaw. I’d considered Langdon an airhead.
It turns out she’s anything but.
I strongly recommend ACA as an antidote to the usual leftard, anti-democratic Australian TV media.
A “Welcome to Country” to begin a rally for a free Palestine, in Melbourne?
The reason I download onto hard drive, on first sighting.
Either you can’t find ’em again, or they’re removed from the internet.
I’ve got tonnes of BLM riots, lockdown brutality, Russian invasion of Ukraine, & now Hamas murder/kidnap spree.
You never find ’em again, & a year or two later they’re a faded memory & the mood of the time cannot be remembered.
Unless you’ve got a coupla hundred MP4 files on a thumb drive.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0wuFkEFvbGXQ3WxKPhD6mzPsULMk34ZscQLEbs1LihC2PKhRWHpHEpyxMtsvVtEXpl&id=100090927611652&mibextid=Nif5oz
Cats might like to contribute to this survey.
Greens Just Like Fluffy Bunnies news (the Tele):
Of course they did.
Arky… I hold, as I think you know, pretty much the same view.
In an election, not voting – or in my case drawing ever-less-talented portraits of key political players on the ballot – makes sense. It deprives all of them of any affirmation under compulsion.
Not at all sure that holds in a national, binary decision. So I not only got me name ticked off, I actually voted this time. I think that fact that it isn’t susceptible to the whole “preference” thing stayed my artistic “talents”.
I do wonder why there are people handing out “How To Vote” cards, though. What proportion of voting age Aussies do not know how to write “Yes” or “No”?
Tom, ACA & Ally Langdon, which channel are they on?
More images of some of the beautiful people killed by hamas mad dogs:
Aussie’s family members killed and abducted by terrorists
Missing Brit pictured laughing before being ‘killed’ by Hamas, family say
Mum and dad slaughtered while shielding their son from Hamas gunfire
Some good news though: IDF Major Libby Weiss is on the job.
Remember their names.
The Almighty definitely will.
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That’s how they draw you back in Mark!
Sal, ACA is on the Nein network, weeknights 7-7.30pm.
Clint Eastwood brown bread.
7.30 Report utterly disgracing itself
Thanks Tom, I’ll catch ’em online at “9now”
And the firebombing campaign, that started in mid-March 1945 with Tokyo (over 100,000 dead in a single night) and progressed around the Home Islands, causing devastation and huge loss of life, would have reinforced the message in the leaflets.
Fair call, Arks.
IMDB showing Clint still shooting.
Technically the fine is for not placing a ballot in the box. If you get your name crossed off and walk off without your ballot, if the staff are quick enough they will get your name and the PPM can report these names to the returning officer and they can be fined.
Take the ballot, draw a big penis or rude words on it if you want, then put it in the box. If numbers of names crossed off and spoilt/counted don’t match, conspiracy theorists jump in.
Bill P, Clint is still alive. Idiots have been putting up posts for a while now about older celebrities dying. Next they’ll be saying Roger is 000.
Bruce if N
Most of us already did.
He’s still with us.
I checked several search engines.
Roger?
Basically immortal!
The law requires you make a valid vote. By rights they could fine everyone that doesn’t have a reasonable reason for not making one.
Aha:
Easy mistake to make. Roger Moore’s stunt double has been a pain in the arse for years.
Pink Cadillac & The Dead Pool, very cool.
Hostile forces imported by canbra. Innocent, good people murdered in Melb, Sydney and Brisbane by people imported by canbra.
Remember the cop in Melb who was run over by a centrelink leach?
I have a theory behind the “arrest” of the man with the Israeli flag in Sydney.
Given NSW police would be avoiding a clash with the Muslims due to fear of escalating problems here, they most likely ‘arrested’ the guy to prevent him from being lynched and beaten to death in the street by the mob.
Is this right? Of course not.
It’s just what I suspect has happened, based on the existing situation and available options for the police to prevent escalating the situation further.
Of course, if use of lethal force and concealed carry were legal in Australia, people might not need to be ‘arrested’ for their own protection.
Sharri from the Oz.
She is on fire.
In Vaucluse local govt elections this woman had placards shouting her ‘independent’ status far and wide, as simply a voice of the locals. I would never vote for ‘resident’ voices as the term these days tends to mean Green in disguise.
Not wrong either with regard to Ms Prince’s voting against Israel. She’s a Deep Green Left stooge.
There’d be a few upset local Jewish voters though who gave her their vote and took her at her word.
Snap.
Sorry for the repeat post.
Chris:
Has no one heard of the Hebron Massacre?
They’ve forgotten. How convenient.
London and Sydney taking pride of place (sarc) in international cities allowing violent anti-Semites to desecrate memorialising the Israeli Jewish dead.
Treating Muslim immigrants with kid gloves and not requiring them to show some semblance of adherence to the values of the host society results in the London and Sydney behaviour of those barbarians.
Police in both cities allowing such protests and standing idly by show what the problem really is.
No need for an apology – great minds, and all that.
Well worth repeating. A fantastic wake-up call from Shari to all Australians.
Never vote for anything Green or Green-leaning. Let that vote drop right out of this country- my country that I have to explain to Italians enquiring here today is not a cesspit of anti-Semitism, given what happened on the steps of our famous Opera House. The strong Green vote here is corrupted and evil.
Having downloaded a shedload of videos of “Israel stuff”, ranging from downright horrific stomach churning, right through to banal vision of khaki clad troops standing around humping kit.
There are Four (4) points have risen to the surface.
1) Where are the feminists?
Unless you arrived this morning from Mars, you’ve a pretty fair idea of the nature of videos uploaded on Saturday by Hamas & Hamas sympathisers;
Girls, teenyboppers clad downright indecently in bikinis & the like, being killed, raped, tortured & maimed.
Of elderly women, some in a state of dementia, being kidnapped & toyed with by their captors once back in Gaza.
Of elderly women being machine-gunned at bus stops & in care homes.
Of housewives being kidnapped and/or murdered, often along with their children.
Yet there has been no outcry from feminists. Nothing.
The same slatterns who are quick to condemn Pauline Hanson, Bettina Arndt, Bronwyn Bishop et al, for being anti-women, have not said one bluddee word about ordinary women being deliberately targeted for rape, murder, torture.
In the last 10-20 years everything the elite and politicians have done now gives the right to do anything I like without a worry no matter what I do. I’m a victim, its not my fault. Unless of course I am normal. You know, one of those people that find what disgusting place the world has become. That was put into perspective today visiting my grandsons daycare. The sheer joy of seeing my grandson playing with kids from all over the world, cared for by Asians from lots of countries who treated us like Royalty. How those creatures of hamas can destroy lives so easily I do not know. 100 ktn yield should about do it. Needs a good easterly to keep the fallout away from Israel.
Crispin Berka:
There are stateless people around.
The Rohingyas for example – nearly a million of them are stateless. So yes – I know people can be made stateless.
My question, you ignoramus, is what is the process?
…and you’ve had your Commission removed for being a smartarse.
I’m getting two bottles. If No is decisive I shall celebrate over two days. If Yes gets up I shall want to get very drunk.
The Greens’ support for the vilest of Islamic terrorist actions speaks for itself as to how deluded some in politics are about the ‘Palestinian’ issue. Penny Wong is currently reported as noting the the ‘new’ policy of the Albanese government on Palestine is likely now to encounter some problems – the policy should be dumped and Israel prioritised. Returning to funding the most outrageous Hamas propaganda in Gaza schools after such funding was removed by the Libs is a stain on Wong’s record; she has funded this terrorism.
Thank God the great man is still with us, a drinker, smoker and lover of women.
I’m told Minns is regarded as a decent bloke, even by NSW Cats.
Now is his time to prove his mettle.
Vermin.
Sorry. Mea culpa re Clint.
Sal,
the Feminists are hiding in the same place as the phat ginger phuck police that Taser old Ladies in Nursing Homes.
Did anybody else notice the phat phuck coppers arresting Mr Spiro?
Sal, the more recent mutation of feminism has been a Trojan one, falsely claiming ancestry from earlier eras. This strain is concerned SOLELY with deriving unearned benefits for the elite, first world, mostly Caucasian, cliques of power seekers. Using the analogy of street gang culture: Insiders (gang members) vs. Outsiders. Hypocrisy is both irrelevant and unproductive, as the gang’s rules transcend society’s rules.
The female victims of the catastrophy in Israel are outsiders, according to today’s feminists. Unless they can be exploited, they have no value.
Insiders. Outsiders. Gang rules are primary. Outside of the gang, you are fair game.
Yet there has been no outcry from feminists. Nothing.
Some choice: feminists or trannies.
Albo’s in tears again?
poor tormented soul
Point #2 arising from the Hamas chainsaw massacre:
2) The depravity of Australia’s Greens party & some others.
Ben Roberts-Smith V.C. has been persecuted, harassed, defamed & hounded for years. More money has been spent chasing him than most of us will see in a lifetime.
The only thing that is beyond doubt that he did: He kicked an Afghan in the bum.
When measured alongside the deeds of Hamas – uploaded in technicolor by Hamas themselves – BRS’ only proven bad deed, a kick up the botty, doesn’t rate.
Public figures in Australia, particularly elected Greens politicians, have called BRS every name under the sun, painted him worse than Attila the Hun, called for all manner of punishment, shame & penury to be inflicted upon him.
With that as the yardstick, just for kicking someone’s bottom, it is difficult to conceptualise what the Greens would want done to Hamas operatives.
…. turns out the Greens want to bake them a celebration cake! They’re organising & appearing at rallies in support of these depraved cro-magnon savages.
[insert here an opinion of the Greens that puts them at Satan’s right hand]
Carpe, I am not Roger, but thanks, can I use it in references?
Palestinian doctor in Sydney tonight on 7.30 responds to Sarah F’s list of atrocities (listed twice but not mentioning rape for some odd reason) by saying ‘what about the killing of 120 children by Israelis previously in West Bank ? Why no mention of that ?’
She’s too gutless to say ‘perhaps, because it never happened, you barefaced lying prick.’
We’ve seen so many examples of lies and bullshit videos showing supposed Israeli crimes which are later shown to be false. Ambulance hit by missile, anyone ?
Yet this is never mentioned.
I thought her failure to mention the rapes was significant. Had it been and he came back with ‘what about Israeli soldiers raping Palestinian women’ there would be no way out.
As we know, rape is a weapon for Muslims. Humiliation, contempt for women. You just would not see that from disciplined Israeli forces.
Why not bring
BillP sorry is not going to cut it. Two words, library, webly.
Like Calli, if my resident downticker dickhead didn’t give me my allotted quota of at least one downtick against everything I say, then I’d think I must somehow be failing as a lightning rod indicating the presence here of at least one mouth-breathing charmer.
+1 Dr BG. I too have a bottle in the fridge and though I’m on my own on Saturday, I’m thinking of knocking the top off it.
No is going to win; take heart.
I watched a bit of Chris Kenny earlier. He had on some blonde bint who, while she mouthed all the correct platitudes in agreement with his raging against the atrocities, prefaced every utterance with, “it doesn’t matter what happened in the past”. Slag.
Wot? No downticks on my last few re the Greens?
Give it time, I tell myself. It’s slow work, mouth-breathing.
Meanwhile, we are off to explore Treveso town.
“Bar Beach Swimmer
Oct 10, 2023 8:49 PM
I’m getting two bottles. If No is decisive I shall celebrate over two days. If Yes gets up I shall want to get very drunk.
+1 Dr BG. I too have a bottle in the fridge and though I’m on my own on Saturday, I’m thinking of knocking the top off it.
No is going to win; take heart.”
Swimmer,
I have three bottles of Gin to celebrate, or commiserate with. I adore wine and bubbly, but I reckon I will need something more “spirit”ual, this Saturday. 😀
Apologies if posted before, Dave Sharma:
Jorge
I may have heard a bit of that on the radio.
Grima Wormtongue would have gagged at the feoited chunks of sewer Faberge leaking from the scumbags mouth.
A one line ” of course I want peace” before more trashing of Israel’s existence, and apparently Israel stops Palestinians from crossing the border to Egypt/ won’t give passess etc.
I don’t suppose the importation of large quantities of military equipment an 5000+ missiles has anything to do with that.
And the scumbag actually said, unchallenged, the Pallies only hope was a ” strike from the north” to make Israel stop.
I didn’t catch his name but apparently he was head of a Palesimian human rights group…
Pog, I don’t drink gin but I will raise my flute to you & yours when we get over the line.
My Saturday is the afternoon shift on the line followed by a scrutineer function.
I assumed that the scrutineer bit would be a token, but my fellow booth brothers have put me through an extraordinary indoctrination into what can happen.
I may need someone to hold my hand. I had no idea of the latent corruption existing in the counting house.
There is one aspect of the Hamas barbarism that heartens me. It’s the near universal revulsion it generated, even among lefties.
Not all, some of the Greens stood out as trying to defend the indefensible, and some of the Muslims also. But the great majority of people were sickened by it. And willing to see Israel do whatever it takes to ensure it never happens again.
Likewise the revulsion against the Australian supporters of Hamas at the Opera House. They are sick and sickening. And something needs to be done about them: deporting them to Gaza would be good.
24 hours after contacting Aus Embassy. Read the first 3 updates. Someone is asleep on the job. Surprise, surprise.
Sorry, link not quite what I wanted to show. If you follow this one, then click on the message in the blue section, you will be able to read what is happening, or not happening.
From Sharri Markson:
They are not “fellow citizens”.
Just imagine for a second what would’ve happened if, after the Christchurch mosque shooting, there was a rally in support of the scum bag shooter with chants of “Fu}k Islam”
Yet another clusterf*ck on Penny Wong’s watch?
The inquiry into covid that Luigi announced the other week provides no legal indemnity to witnesses, unlike in a RC. Who’s going to give evidence under that constraint?
They are, I’m afraid.
And it will take a change in citizenship law to make it otherwise.
Swimmer,
I shall raise an old-fashioned to your good self on Saturday night. If you ever decide to give Mother’s ruin a try, go for Four Pillars Yuzu. An excellent Ozzie made gin.
Trying to get up to speed with this OT. Another 8 pages to go. Pour another coffee.
Did Kenny agree, and acknowledge that this statement means that there is no need (at the least) for “Truth and Reparations”? Or is that different?
Black Ball,
the letter by Dave Sharma is a vivid, yet sad description of what he and his family had to endure. Why then, is he such a bloody wet when in our political system? He was Gung Ho for destroying Australia via the Climate Scam.
BJ,
after Kenny gets through the meat, he starts on the scraps left in the bowl. Change the channel then.
I’m watching David Flint interviewing Chris Merritt on ADH TV. They’re talking about the referendum and specifically the race laws in the constitution, which Merritt asserts should be removed.
I, OTOH, think that clause maybe a way to deal with the Palis. One which could not be struck down by the HC. If used, maybe they’d want to leave the place.
BJ,
I just realised I hadn’t mentioned that the Chris Kenny comment context was to do with the evil in Israel, not the stupid Abo stuff. Sorry.
So, more facts are coming to light, from the Daily Telegraph….
Exclusive: Jewish community leaders pleaded with Police Minister Yasmin Catley to keep pro-Palestinian protesters away from the Opera House while the sails lit up in the colours of Israel but were told there was nothing she could do to stop the rally.
NSW Police are now under increasing pressure to prevent further violent protests, with police intelligence suggesting that pro-Palestinian groups will continue to hold further rallies, on a regular basis, in the city and in the southwest Sydney.
Ahead of another rally planned for Sunday, Premier Chris Minns warned that anyone who broke the law at Monday’s protest could expect to be charged.
“NSW Police are going through CCTV of Monday night’s protest and will be targeting illegal behaviour that was committed on the steps on the Opera House last night. Those who have broken the law will face the full force of the law,” he told The Daily Telegraph.”
I am stunned. It just gets worse.
Father Mark Leach on Bolt didn’t mince words. Thank you.
Imagine then what happens to all the un-scrutineered postal votes sitting all alone and vulnerable in the Computershare warehouse.
Pogria, hope you’re enjoying the Lekach.
Being purely reactive in these circumstances isn’t enough, Premier Minns.
Yeah, I know.
They’re really not though.
Both at the same time perhaps.
Schrödinger’s citizens.
And the box has just been opened.
I’m not expecting Yes to get up, BBS. I reckon 70:30 rejection is possible. 60:40 is likely.
But one should always be prepared for adverse contingencies. In this case by planning to get totally stonkered if it should turn out that more than half my fellow citizens are gullible fatheads.
They would’ve been carrying mobile phones. Surely, this is an easier way to track them.
One has to face the uncomfortable truth that there are things that walk among us that are choked by malice and hatred, that wish us ill.
But they are few and hardly intelligent, so we should not fear them.
It’s OK, I realised that from the context. I was just wondering whether Kenny was quick enough to see the connection. I suspect not.
Watching Magnum Force on the teev.
Eastwood’s late stunt double earning his pay.