Open Thread – Thurs 12 Oct 2023


At the Café, Edouard Manet, 1879

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Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 7:22 pm

Americans talking of new, unusual, army ads with virile young white blokes rather than trans black lesbian puppeteers.

Definite sign that the US is preparing for a conflict.

Recruitment numbers were falling off a cliff.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 7:24 pm

Daily Mail. So, who is howling about not having electricity and/or water?

Israeli military says babies WERE beheaded, and a coroner has confirmed how they died: IDF spokesman says ‘It was hard to believe even Hamas could perform such a barbaric act’

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 7:25 pm

The sooner the Gaza Strip is reduced to a pile of rubble, with the inhabitants driven into the Sinai desert, the better.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
October 12, 2023 7:26 pm

I was under the impression that Airbus flight software would not accept any control inputs that would put the aircraft outside of its permissible flight envelope

Wasn’t that the flight that exposed the pitot tube fustercluck? Whereby, if I remember, on side of the cockpit got garbage speed info and one side got the correct stuff? Which kinda stuffed up Airbus’ “legendary” “software” no end.

Memory, so don’t take it as right!

Zatara
Zatara
October 12, 2023 7:26 pm

Playboy is heard from regarding foul comments about the 7 Oct attacks.

Dear Creator Community.

We are writing today to let you know of our decision to terminate Playboy’s relationship with Mia Khalifa, including deleting Mia’s Playboy channel on our creator platform. Over the last few days Mia has made disgusting and reprehensible attacks on Israel and the murder of men, women and children At Playboy we encourage free expression and constructive political debate, but we have zero tolerance for hate speech. We expect Mia to understand that her words and actions have consequences.

Her commercial sponsors acted as well:

“Consider yourself fired effective immediately,” the company’s CEO, Todd Shapiro, tweeted Khalifa of her “beyond disgusting” messages.

She has revealed that her parents stopped speaking to her because of her involvement in pornographic films.

Nice move Mia. The muslims already hate you for being a porn star and now you have burned your only other bridge.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 7:27 pm
Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2023 7:28 pm

So, the NSW Police Minister, Yasmin Catley, a political hack and all round mediocrity if ever there was one, has referred to us Australian Jews as “you people”. I suspect the likes of Hitler, Himmler and Eichmann and others are laughing in hell.

Let me clear my throat before I continue, I’m trying to control my anger, rage and tears. I feel like screaming, I did scream out loud the other night, and I’m pretty sure my neighbours heard. Okay, throat cleared. The scab is well and truly off and we can now see, very clearly, Labor, Greens and progressive Jew hatred. I suppose this is a good thing, many of us here on this blog have seen it and called it out for years now, but too many kept their goggles on so as to blur or hide the truth of the progressive left and Jew hatred.

I need to write this, it helps to calm me. Last night I went with a group of friends to the rally for Israel, they are all Jews whose parents came to this country after 1945, after surviving Auschwitz, Malthausen, Belsen, forced labour camps, hiding in forests and so on. I’m not from a family of Holocaust survivors. I said to two of these friends, whose mothers survived Auschwitz, how I’m glad they are not alive alive to see this. They both nodded, with one saying….”it just would have crushed them”, having gone through the war, the transportations, the liquidations, the only reason their mothers survived Auschwitz was because both were sixteen years old on arrival at Auschwitz, and they were put to work in the factory. All other family members, younger and older, were gassed on arrival. I knew both their mothers well, one Polish, one Hungarian, and I knew how both suffered mental breakdowns over the decades. I remember my friend’s mother telling me about how, when the Germans rounded up the Jews in her town (not far from Budapest) in 1944, she was dismayed at the ambivalence of her non-Jewish schoolmates and so called friends of her family. She was, and she remained more angry with them than the Nazis. This friend’s mother’s family weren’t religious, they were completely assimilated, they celebrated Christmas and ate pork. I never really understood why she was more angry with her neighbours than the Germans, but I do now.

This is how I feel about the likes of the Slick Willie Simmons of the world, the Tony Burkes of the world, the Blackout Bowens of the world, the Yasmin Catleys of the world, and all the others, including our PM, their complete moral cowardice, their putrid appeasement. You see, I know the Palestinians at that protest on Monday night hate me, they hate me because I’m a Jew. But what really angers me is how scum on the left, who incessantly parade their virtue, who claim not to be anti-Semitic, who screech about Nazis here, there and everywhere, and yet who turn up to a protest where Palestinians screech “gas the Jews”. I regard these people as modern day collaborators, they are no different to my friend’s mother’s neighbours in that Hungarian town in 1944. Slick Willie, Bowen, Burke, the cockroaches who infest the ABC, the BBC, CNN, Nine Newspapers, the Malchurian Guardian, they’re all collaborators of the worst kind.

Just further to the question of free speech, which I’ve thought long and hard about over the last few days, because I do believe in free speech however screaming “gas the Jews” is not free speech, it is a clear cut incitement to violence against Jews. But what was done to Sydney’s Jews on Monday night is much more sinister than just “freedom of speech”. On Monday night we Jews of Sydney were not just told we had to keep silent, we were told we had to clear the streets, the roads, the lanes and the avenues of Sydney’s CBD, we were told to hide in our homes, this was no different to what happened to us during World War II, when one of the first things the Germans would do was to prohibit Jews from walking the streets of the cities, towns, villages they occupied, and they would issue edicts to designate that areas be “judenfrei”…….cleansed” of Jews. That’s what the NSW Police issued on Monday night, they issued an order that Sydney’s CBD was to be “judenfrei”.

Apologies about the rant.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 7:28 pm

Nice move Mia. The muslims already hate you for being a porn star and now you have burned your only other bridge.

She’ll always have the pay piggies.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2023 7:32 pm

Cassie, take a little heart.
The next few months will see a lot of division on this issue, it will be painful, but I do strongly believe Elbow and the rest of the anti-Semite enablers will be revealed as a tiny % of Australians.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2023 7:34 pm

She’ll always have the pay piggies.

Dubai porta potty awaits…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 7:34 pm

Apologies about the rant.

No need for any apology, Cassie.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 7:36 pm

Albo’s face has changed dramatically in the last few months. His mouth is now a thin line with the corners pointing down and deeply etched. That is not a face of a happy man.

johanna
johanna
October 12, 2023 7:36 pm

But, in the great tradition of fiddling with designs after the tender has been let, the genius Top Men at the Antarctic Division decided to make it wider. Not only did this increase the cost, it made it too wide to safely navigate under the bridge. They didn’t bother to check this minor detail, though (see: train carriages, Sydney, platforms, clearance from, etc, etc.)

Thinking back on the later years of my APS career as a fixer of debacles (my policy positions were unacceptable) this sort of thing cropped up again and again.

I had no expertise in the various screwups I had to fix, but it didn’t matter.

Firstly, the specifications for the tender were vague, internally contradictory and lacking in detail but long on wishlists.

Secondly, the tender committee didn’t even do basic checks like financial viability and previous history.

Thirdly, the so-called managers of the project were hopelessly at sea. Every time someone said ‘wouldn’t it be great if we had this’ they added it to the specs. When something didn’t work, they accepted the ‘explanation’ of the smooth talking contractors.

I pulled several large projects out of the mire, and it was the same story every time.

Whether it is IT or ships for the Antarctic, project management skills are rare in the public sector. Why wouldn’t they be? Nobody is trained for it.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 7:38 pm

There’s a reason why the public sector likes Agile management but the private sector just uses plain old PMBOK.

Chris
Chris
October 12, 2023 7:39 pm

There’s a reason why the public sector likes Agile management but the private sector just uses plain old PMBOK.

cough PRINCE PRO cough

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
October 12, 2023 7:41 pm

Probably no surprise – turned up at Fairfield prepoll (SW Sydney) for a brief spot of advocacy for No (and was the only No presence there), in talking with one of the several Yes volunteers, it came to light that he was a member of the Rail, Tram, and Bus Union (RTBU).

During the conversation, he stated that the Union had directed staff (such as he) to ‘volunteer’ at prepoll, he was ok with this, and in fact he was still being paid, it was a normal work day.

This is a benefit not available to No volunteers as far as I am aware, I can’t recall any business or employer supporting or funding the No effort in such a way.

This obviously also explains in part the surfeit of Yes volunteers and paraphernalia you can see at prepoll stations. Big government, big business and big unions are collaborating to skew the referendum outcome by throwing massive resources into the Yes effort.

Also, during the conversation, suddenly a very large and expensive-looking portable electronic sign (bit like a jumbo iPad) was placed outside the prepoll centre by team Yes. I remarked that the Yes effort must have enormous amounts of money to provide such things.

The reply I got was, “the No side has much more money than Yes”. Needless to say, I could not extract from my interlocutor any references for details to support that reply.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 12, 2023 7:42 pm

Keep ranting, Cassie. You are not alone in your thinking.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 12, 2023 7:44 pm

Whether it is IT or ships for the Antarctic, project management skills are rare in the public sector.

Not just there. I was also sent in fix IT projects that had turned to poo. It was a well known IT organisation which is now a shadow of it’s former glory. The clients were all private sector. Thankfully I had been made redundant before the Qld Health fiasco.

Megan
Megan
October 12, 2023 7:47 pm

Memory, so don’t take it as right!

It isn’t. It was the young pilot in charge assuming that the computer was correct and he just needed to get the right combination of games moves to regain control.

He’d never actually been properly trained to fly the thing without computer assistance. Because: Airbus can fly itself. Allegedly.

Like many air crashes, it was a cascade of problematic events while he persisted with trying more of the same and making the situation unrecoverable.

As the Captain found out when he finally returned to the flight deck too late to make a difference.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 12, 2023 7:48 pm

Running joke. Must’ve done it a dozen more times in the second book.

Thanks for the warning.

I don’t mind silly, and I’m quite fond of weird (it’s why we read SF, after all). But I’m against stupid and also hackneyed. And twee brings on the puke. When you find yourself hoping that the bad guys win and wipe out the hero and heroine as messily as possible, you know you’re reading the wrong book.

johanna
johanna
October 12, 2023 7:48 pm

feelthebern
Oct 12, 2023 5:23 PM

ACCC rejects request from Australian Energy Market Operator to keep grid stability powers

Via the Oz.
What a shit show.
The ACCC & AEMO fighting is like two pre-op trannies touching penises.

No. They are each trying to blame the other for future blackouts.

Megan
Megan
October 12, 2023 7:49 pm

On reflection, that Air France dive into the ocean could be a metaphor for the state of the West across the globe.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 7:49 pm

So, the NSW Police Minister, Yasmin Catley, a political hack and all round mediocrity if ever there was one, has referred to us Australian Jews as “you people”.

The powers that be in the NSW ALP should give Chris Minns the nod to sack her.

He needs to appear to be doing something about this train wreck.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 7:51 pm

Thankfully I had been made redundant before the Qld Health fiasco.

Er…which one?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 7:52 pm

Albo’s face has changed dramatically in the last few months.

His hemorrhoids may be giving trouble?

cohenite
October 12, 2023 7:55 pm

Ami Horowitz on bolta says the obvious: the hamas hostages are gone: still the non existent prospect of their return will be used to hinder Israel. Reporting on The Five, where again Gutfeld gave one of the best and insightful summaries of the psychology of the left who have come out to support the dogs of hamas, is that hamas have gone underground and will not be readily located.

I still maintain gaza has to be levelled.

The shit biden admin has grudgingly admitted iran is behind it all but still will not remove the $6 billion from the table, nor, presumably, their cooperation with iran’s nuke program.

The thug who threatened the young guys with the Israeli flag has been released and I believe will get a slap on the wrist. Here will be no further arrests or deportation of the pallis.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 12, 2023 8:02 pm

Was not greater Palestine originally the home of the Jews, and then the Christians? Then the Islamists turn up 7 centuries later. Who then, are the colonisers?

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 8:06 pm

“In a new tactic, Israel is warning civilians to evacuate whole Gaza neighbourhoods, rather than just individual buildings, then levelling large swaths in waves of airstrikes.”

But what of the Christians, 1,100 approx I understand.
Who will take them? None in the ME. Here in Aus? Hardly, we are no longer a Christian country. Even back in the early ’80s there was no preference for Christians.

I bet neither Poland nor Hungary would have a problem accepting these refugees even though they draw the line at muslims. Or even Italy and Greece though I’m not too sure about the western or Northern Europeans, it’s the Christian part that sticks in their craw.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 8:10 pm

Was not greater Palestine originally the home of the Jews, and then the Christians?

Research done, in the tax archives of the former Ottoman Empire, indicates that the majority of the “Palestinians” of today are descended from those who migrated to that province after the waves of Jewish immigration of the late 19th century, looking for security of the new Jewish settlements, and work.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 8:10 pm

Was not greater Palestine originally the home of the Jews, and then the Christians? Then the Islamists turn up 7 centuries later. Who then, are the colonisers?

It’s not that simple.

I think the latest DNA study showed that 70-80% of present-day Israeli and Palestinian males share common ancestors from the region.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 12, 2023 8:17 pm

On books worth reading:

‘The man with one of those faces’. By Caimh McDonnell is good. It’s not SF, but it’s funny. I don’t know what genre to put it in. I think it’s on its own. I suppose you could say it’s a police procedural, but I wouldn’t.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 8:18 pm

So I looked up and found out that the total population of Gaza in 1960 was 1 million.

In 2021, it was up to 5 million.

So, that’s a quintuple increase for a “country being destroyed by genocide.” Last time I looked, genocide makes population go down…”

When you have a population of that size on a sliver of land makes you the equivalent of Singapore meaning that you better behave like Singapore if you want a long term future. You better find an industry or a service that doesn’t depend on land size and get to it.

However, if you refuse to look after yourself but bludge off your neighbours and the rest of the world and then you repay that goodwill with terrorism don’t be surprised when you lose the support of your neighbours and eventually the world.

Vicki
Vicki
October 12, 2023 8:23 pm

Today I pulled from my bookshelves “Israel. A History” – a big tome by Martin Gilbert. I read it years ago & it tracks the long standing history of the Jewish people with Judaea. Jewish people were still found there in the 19th century – for example, in 1889 there were about 25,000 Jews in Jerusalem. Zion always was the longed-for homeland. As I recall, Gilbert documents the efforts of wealthy US Jewish businessmen to buy land for those Jews would wanted to make a new home in their ancient land.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2023 8:28 pm

No. They are each trying to blame the other for future blackouts.

Well the ACCC has just handed them a get out of gaol free card. I doubt event mUnty thinks the price mechanism is working in the electricity market.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 8:30 pm

Crossie, Gaza is half the land area of Singapore (so more compact re infrastructure spend) however Singapore has to cook for itself.

Had Gaza shown the slightest inclination to develop an industry or infrastructure, they’d have been swamped with gifted money & expertise, heaven & earth would have been moved to make it work for them.

As it was, they were near buried in gifted money.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 8:31 pm

Gilbert documents the efforts of wealthy US Jewish businessmen to buy land for those Jews would wanted to make a new home in their ancient land.

It’s been a long time since I read Martin Gilbert, but he also documents the efforts by the Arab rulers to prevent their landowners selling to the Jews for gold, at well above the going price.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2023 8:37 pm

From Israel…

Yair Levi- Hatikvah, the National Anthem of Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxDNx9fR79Y

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 8:42 pm

Robert Sewell
Oct 12, 2023 7:03 PM

JC

Oct 12, 2023 2:36 PM
Oh lord
We’re back to the injian stole me peteewl again.
Obviously, turtlehead thinks $2.49 is cheaper than $2.39.
Get the iodine!

No sympathy for the half a dozen women who lost their jobs?
Of course not. You’re all right Jack.

Prove it. Prove what you’re saying is, in fact, truthful because it’s a first time we’ve heard da whites lost their jobs. The only thing you’ve ever done is make ethnic slurs against thems Injians “stealing me petrewl”, you degenerate, and today you posted price differentials that somehow suggests thems “injians were thieves because they were quoting a higher pwice”.

Lord almighty, it was a post about a 10 cent price difference.

But it’s a gulture. Yeah, it’s the gulture alright getting dumped in a home You lowrent cretin.

Let’s see the dependency this evening. 🙂

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 8:44 pm

Putin Warns ‘Globalist Terrorist’ Klaus Schwab His ‘Days Are Numbered’

Chuckle.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 8:44 pm

Gaza is half the land area of Singapore

Singapore: 743 sq km, GDP $497 billion
Gaza: 365 sq km, GDP $14.8 billion

One is a nice place, the other is a latrine. They chose poorly.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 8:45 pm

Peta Credlin protests division over Voice referendum and says No vote should not be taken as ‘rejection of Aboriginal people’

Sky News Australia host Peta Credlin has issued an impassioned plea for Australians to avoid “race division” ahead of the Voice referendum, slamming the Yes campaign for piling “moral pressure” on voters.

Peta Credlin has taken aim at the division over the Voice referendum, arguing a No vote will keep the country united while slamming the Yes campaign for pressuring Australians.

Just two days out from the referendum that will determine if an Indigenous Voice to Parliament is permanently enshrined in the Constitution, Credlin refused to rule out a “last-minute upset” despite the No vote looking likely to head for a victory.

The Sky News Australia host suggested people may yet be convinced to vote Yes ahead of the referendum from the fear of simply going against the grain of the campaign’s rhetoric.

“People I know personally who have been standing on pre-polls over the past two weeks say they have never seen the sort of personal attacks they’re witnessing in this referendum before,” Credlin said in her editorial on Thursday night.

“That’s because the Yes camp are desperate and they know that the harder you target individuals, the more moral pressure you pile on them, the more likely they will fold.”

Credlin said if the No case falters she fears some Australians will have “more say than others” on how the government works based on race and ancestry.

However she took more confidence from the recent polling which revealed support for the Voice amongst Indigenous Australians has severely waned despite the Yes campaign repeatedly wheeling out an outdated polling suggesting support was at 80 per cent.

“Of course, one thing that the most recent polling has done, is explode the Yes case myth that 80 per cent of Aboriginal people support the Voice,” she said.

“The latest Resolve poll, taken largely in NSW and Victoria where sampling is easier, has just 60 per cent indigenous support for the Voice, even though it’s pitched as a great advance, specifically, for them.”

Credlin agreed more still needed to be done by the government to address serious issues across Indigenous communities such as schooling attendance and domestic violence if the No vote succeeds.

But she argued there was “no way” a No vote should be taken “as a rejection of Aboriginal people.”

“As for the view that a No vote will somehow break people’s hearts, sure, there will inevitably be disappointment and frustration among Yes voters, but it’s better to have a few bad days, than to end up with a bad mistake permanently baked into our constitution,” she said.

“It would actually be an affirmation, that all of us – black, white, and everyone else in between, should live and work together as equals. As Australians first and foremost, and not divided by our bloodlines.”

The host pointed to a sign of horrific division in Australia as recently on Monday night, where anti-Semitic chants were shouted amongst pro-Palestinian protests following terrorist attacks in Israel across the weekend.

She said it’s an example of “the hatreds that flow when everything is all-about-race.”

“This is what happens when people see their fellow human beings only through the prism of race, and try to undo history, and try to resurrect land claims, with talk of treaties that set us up against each other,” she said.

“That’s always been one of the big flaws at the heart of the Voice push: this view that the settlement of Australia was somehow illegitimate, and that to atone for this so-called sin, Aboriginal people had to be given a special status with rights and privileges, over and above, those available to everyone else. That’s not how it works in a democracy.”

Credlin also said voting No was not just a rejection of the Voice, but several other customs she believed should be “done away with” including overuse of the ‘Welcome to Country’ and the flying of the Aboriginal flag alongside the Australian flag.

She said the Israel situation should act as a deterrent for Australians to avoid “race division”, stating that Australians have no reason to feel guilt for voting No.

“If the result is No, no one should be apologetic, or feel any need to placate the activists behind the Voice push. Because No is a vote of confidence in Australia’s future, and a rejection of revisionism and unbalanced shame about our past,” she said.

“What this week in Israel has shown me and I suspect many other Australians is that once you go down the path of race division, it is a path that takes us backwards, not forwards, as one people. And it’s a path of no turning back.”

She said the Israel situation should act as a deterrent for Australians to avoid “race division”, stating that Australians have no reason to feel guilt for voting No.

“If the result is No, no one should be apologetic, or feel any need to placate the activists behind the Voice push. Because No is a vote of confidence in Australia’s future, and a rejection of revisionism and unbalanced shame about our past,” she said.

“What this week in Israel has shown me and I suspect many other Australians is that once you go down the path of race division, it is a path that takes us backwards, not forwards, as one people. And it’s a path of no turning back.”

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 8:46 pm

The reply I got was, “the No side has much more money than Yes”.

Someone this dumb should not be manning an information stand.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 8:48 pm

JC:

Obviously, turtlehead thinks $2.49 is cheaper than $2.39.

I’m curious as to how you worked that bit of mathematical wizardry out of:

Re fuel prices:
Bulk diesel $2.29/litre
Servo diesel $2.39/litre
Indian Servo diesel (No Australians employed any more) $2.49/litre

Are you drunk again, Bignose?

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 8:49 pm

I still maintain gaza has to be levelled.

Israelis are certainly beyond angry with what’s occurred, but they will never “level” Gaza when they know around 50% of the population are kids. Israelis are too civilized to deliberately take their anger out on children.

An overwhelming majority of Gaza’s population is young with 65 percent being under the age of 24 and the median age for men and women being 18 years.

This is a terrible situation but I think, Bibi will figure it out. If there’s anyone intellectually capable, it’s him.

Iran needs to be the focus. Gaza is basically a sideshow.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 8:49 pm

Putin Warns ‘Globalist Terrorist’ Klaus Schwab His ‘Days Are Numbered’

A twofer would be fun.

Russian channel claims Putin close to death following ‘sharp deterioration’ in health (11 Oct)

Pretty unlikely, but I enjoy stories like this. Trying to determine what the tea leaves are saying is good practice. Anyone seen Mr Kadyrov lately?

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 8:50 pm

One is a nice place, the other is a latrine. They chose poorly.

They certainly did when they voted for Hamas c. 2007.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 8:50 pm

Lord almighty, it was a post about a 10 cent price difference.

Er… that’s $200 difference in a tankful.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 8:51 pm

Russian electricity ten times cheaper than in UK – banker

Low energy prices make Russian industry more competitive than its European rivals, a Sber official has said

Electricity costs for Russian consumers are nearly ten times lower than in the UK, and are roughly four times less than in the EU, a leading banker stated on Wednesday, referring to prices for households and businesses.

Anatoly Popov, deputy chairman of the board of Russia’s largest lender, Sber, was speaking at the Russian Energy Week forum in Moscow.

“Electricity is cheap in Russia. If you take the price in Russia and the price that British industries pay, I do not know if there is any industry left with such prices, but the price is almost ten times lower in Russia than in the UK. In the EU, the prices for industrial consumers are four times higher per kilowatt/hour, and for households also 4-4.5 times higher,” Popov explained.

According to the British government website, floor unit prices for electricity for households averaged £0.34 ($0.41) per kWh over the past year. Russian consumers pay on average $0.04 per kWh.

The price gap helps make the Russian economy more competitive, according to Popov.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 8:53 pm

Turtlhead. that would be you figuring out $2.49 thinking it’s cheaper than $2.29. Anyway, you nobody, how do you even know 6 women lost their jobs. If you dislike them so much and think “thems injinans stole mi petrewl”, you’re obviously not buying from them. So why are you stalking a petrol station, you lice ridden cretin?

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 8:55 pm

Driller, piss off. And stop insinuating yourself in discussions that don’t concern you. You’ve been told before- plenty of times.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 8:56 pm

how do you even know 6 women lost their jobs.

Because:
a) the 6 women said they were sacked.
b) the same 6 women were no longer pulling shifts at that same workplace.

Was the above even a serious question?

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 8:57 pm

2,000 liters of diesel goes into an SUV. Whoever knew SUVs carried such enormous fuel tanks. Innumeracy = bankruptcy.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 8:57 pm

the 6 women said they were sacked.

And you know this how? Citation!

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 8:58 pm

ZK2A:
Daily mail link to that story.
Heartbreaking moment father breaks down in tears as he confesses he WELCOMED news his daughter, 8, had been killed by Hamas – rather than face the horrors of being a hostage in Gaza

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 8:59 pm

Mikhail Khodarenok: Israel’s war on Hamas could lead to the end of the Gaza exclave

Amid a wave of confusion, the argument that the country’s intelligence and air defenses failed is unfounded

On Saturday, Hamas militants attacked Israel, quickly seizing several border settlements and establishing control over a large area of territory.

The terrorists used bulldozers to overcome fences on the frontier with Gaza. The use of boats (in small amphibious landings) and paragliders was notable in the course of the fighting.

Taking advantage of the total surprise of the attack, the terrorists managed to take partial control of the relatively large Israeli towns of Sderot, Netivot, Ashkelon, and Ofakim, as well as some settlements and kibbutzim in border areas.

Hamas militants also stormed Israel Defense Forces (IDF) bases at Kibbutz Re’im and Nahal Oz. The IDF suffered significant losses in terms of killed, wounded, and captured.

The total size of the invading force has been estimated at around 1,000 (essentially a reinforced battalion).

Was there an intelligence failure?

Many observers have been quick to attribute Hamas’ successes to miscalculations by the Israeli security services and the IDF. There is no doubt that there were some shortcomings.

In general, however, the accusation that the Israeli security services were caught napping by the attack is clearly exaggerated.

In fact, virtually all of Hamas’ preliminary actions on the eve of October 7 were not related to the preparation of an armed invasion as such.

After all, even the most sophisticated Israeli technical intelligence could not, by definition, reveal the formation of strike groups, their occupation of areas of operation, the deployment of rearguards, and many other things that precede a classic armed invasion.

Moreover, Hamas did not create any such strike groups.

Yes, there was some movement along Gaza’s borders with Israel, as there always has been. Kassam-type rockets were still being hammered out by the hundreds and thousands in craft workshops, but that too is a common activity in the Gaza Strip.

There were, as always, violent demonstrations waving automatic rifles, machine guns, and rocket-propelled grenades, but it is still very difficult to associate the movement of two or three bulldozers towards the border with preparations for the outbreak of a military conflict.

It should also be noted that Hamas did not need a large fresh supply of weapons and military equipment, which could have been detected by the relevant intelligence services, to carry out Saturday’s attack.

It had sufficient resources of its own for a military action of this magnitude – adventurous and suicidal in nature and without any ultimately positive consequences for the group.

It should be added that, for objective reasons, it is very, very difficult to work as an agent among the population of the Gaza Strip. In addition, only a very narrow circle of people, mostly related by family ties, are allowed to make fundamental decisions within Hamas.

Therefore, the accusations against the Israeli intelligence services certainly have their place, but at the same time all the abovementioned circumstances must be taken into account.

Has the Israeli war machine failed?

There are also doubts among some experts about the effectiveness of Israel’s Iron Dome anti-missile system. However, the point here is that every anti-aircraft and defense system is limited by what is known as rate-of-fire. That is, the ability to defeat an airborne enemy attack at a certain density: to engage, track, and shoot down a certain number of targets (for example, 25 per minute).

If the enemy launches 5,000 Kassam missiles in 20 minutes, no dome can cope with that number of targets. If each target were to be fired at in a two-missile burst (as is common in combat operations), at least 10,000 defense missiles would be required, at a cost of $20,000 each (and that’s in 2014 prices). There are indications that Israel has already requested additional systems from the US.

It has also been reported that Hamas formations seized several Merkava tanks (including the latest modification, the IV variant) from the IDF, some of which have been burned.

However, it is unlikely that the terrorists will be able to use this armor in combat as it requires a completely different level of training.

According to some reports, Hamas could not even start a Merkava IV, let alone use its fire control system.

Thus, the claim that Hamas’ armed units base their actions on analysis of their own experience and the enemy’s weaknesses, as well as a detailed study of the latest trends in modern military art in armed conflict zones, is an exaggeration by some analysts.

The militants do not demonstrate anything “cutting-edge” in the field of military art.

What to expect from the fighting on the ground?

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 8:59 pm

I feel like an Anzac at Lone Pine

FMD.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:01 pm

2,000 liters of diesel goes into an SUV.

A semi-trailer.
Those servos aren’t marketing to cissies in a little putt-putt town car.

Delta A
Delta A
October 12, 2023 9:02 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 12, 2023 7:28 PM

Cassie dear, I hope it helps you to unload in a rant – and you do it very well. But I’m concerned that you’re trying to assimilate and handle all the horrific information largely by yourself, without any real help.

Perhaps consider the idea of engaging a truly sympathetic ear, either professionally or via a strong friend who can support you through this dreadful time. Sure, you’re one tough cookie, but the current situation is hard enough for any decent person to cope with, much less someone so closely connected to it all.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:03 pm

I feel like an Anzac at Lone Pine

Really sorry to learn this.
They were all killed at Lone Pine (depending which day of course)
When’s your funeral?
Or will you be just mulched in, for a fair dinkum Lone Pine burial experience?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 9:03 pm

Zelensky fears Israel will distract from Western aid to Kiev

The Ukrainian president has visited NATO headquarters, concerned that the flow of Western help could be imperiled…

Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has voiced concerns that the security crisis in the Middle East could draw international attention away from his country. He blamed Russia for the Hamas incursion into southern Israel last week.

In an interview with France 2 on Tuesday, he warned:

“If international attention shifts away from Ukraine, one way or another, it will have consequences. The fate of Ukraine depends on the unity of the rest of the world.”

He expressed hope that Washington would ensure continued assistance.

Zelensky was visiting Romania on Tuesday, where he met Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu. Speaking during a joint press conference, the president reiterated his claim that Moscow was to blame for the attack by the Palestinian militant movement. Russia “helped Hamas and is behind Hamas,” he proclaimed without offering any specific evidence, referring instead to “signals” on social media.

Earlier in the week, Zelensky stated that according to Ukrainian intelligence services:
“Russia was interested in triggering a war in the Middle East” to “undermine world unity” and “destroy freedom in Europe.”

Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova mocked Zelensky’s remarks, suggesting that they may have been fueled by substance abuse.

On Wednesday, Zelensky made an unannounced visit to NATO headquarters in Brussels, where he reportedly sought reassurances that the Hamas raid and Israel’s retaliation would not distract from attention to Ukraine.

Speaking to journalists alongside NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Zelensky urged world leaders to go to Israel in a gesture of support to prevent further escalation: “We have not to give possibility for aggressors even to think about the third world war, the new wave of aggression,” he said, contrasting the approach to having “dialogue with Iran or Russia.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2023 9:03 pm

On the coin flips.
I recall an old codger telling me once that a particular issue of penny from early last century which favoured one side, and two-up operators loved them.
Allegedly.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 9:03 pm

I caught a bit of Chris Kenny earlier. He had on some Blonde bint called Amanda Rose. Along with Caleb Bond, they were discussing the situation re Israel. At first she sounded rational, but the “yes, but” started to creep in. She finished with a massive shrieking rant that we should bring all the poor, displaced Pally’s to Australia. We’re already bringing tons of migrants in already, why not the poor Pally’s. She gave a brief nod to fairness and stated that it included any Israeli’s who wanted to flee also. How generous of her. /sarc/

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 9:04 pm

johanna

Oct 12, 2023 7:36 PM
But, in the great tradition of fiddling with designs after the tender has been let, the genius Top Men at the Antarctic Division decided to make it wider. Not only did this increase the cost, it made it too wide to safely navigate under the bridge. They didn’t bother to check this minor detail, though (see: train carriages, Sydney, platforms, clearance from, etc, etc.)

A phone call to a Korean shipyard would have seen the project completed on time and within budget, to original specs.
And that’s why we have sod all shipbuilding capacity.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:08 pm

She finished with a massive shrieking rant that we should bring all the poor, displaced Pally’s to Australia. We’re already bringing tons of migrants in already, why not the poor Pally’s. She gave a brief nod to fairness and stated that it included any Israeli’s who wanted to flee also.

We’ll soon test that one out.
How many persecuted White Farmers from South Africa is she happy for us to accept?

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 9:10 pm

OldOzzie
Oct 12, 2023 8:59 PM

Worth posting on Peter West’s ‘Tet Offensive’ thread, O.O.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 9:10 pm

Megan:

Like many air crashes, it was a cascade of problematic events while he persisted with trying more of the same and making the situation unrecoverable.

Is that the one where the bloke in the Right seat had the stick on his right side and despite the stall warning blaring in his ear, refused to put the nose down, while the Left side pilot was trying to put the nose down, fighting the Right seater, who wouldn’t let him?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 9:11 pm

Labor Party Idiots Continue to Rule in NSW – Chis Minns is there anyone with Brains in NSW Labor for Ministers or are they all Incompetent & Stupid

NSW vows to slash emissions by 50pc by 2030

Samantha Hutchinson
National reporter

NSW will be bound to some of the toughest emission reductions targets in the country under Minns government plans to legislate a 50 per cent cut by 2030 and net zero by 2050, even as pressure mounts for the government to extend the operating life of the country’s largest coal-fired power station.

NSW Energy Minister Penny Sharpe insists the state will be able to hit its targets and the ambitious plan to cut emissions by half by the end of the decade, even if it strikes a deal with Origin Energy to keep the Eraring power station open beyond its planned closure in August 2025.

The government on Thursday prepared to introduce to parliament its Climate Change Bill, which forms the centrepiece of state Labor’s environmental policy and lays the foundations for a Net Zero Commission to lower emissions while managing the impact on power bills.

“Enshrining targets in law shows the NSW Labor government is serious about reaping the benefits of driving down emissions and moving to more affordable, renewable energy,” Premier Chris Minns said.

The target goes beyond federal Labor’s national reductions target of 43 per cent by 2030 and is substantially more ambitious than Queensland’s target of 30 per cent cut by 2030.

It is also marginally tougher than Victoria, which is chasing a 45-50 per cent emissions cut by 2030, and South Australia, which is pursuing a 50 per cent reductions target through regulation rather than legislation.

NSW is the country’s second-highest emitter behind Queensland.

The legislative push comes as the Minns government works to put the state’s stalling renewable energy transition back on track, including accelerating a delayed transmission rollout costing more than $10 billion and resolving planning headaches around five new renewable energy zones.

The new legislation is a “down payment” on shoring up the state’s environmental and climate certainty, Ms Sharpe said, adding that the legislation would also build the confidence needed to spur on new investment in the renewable energy transition.

When asked whether the targets could be derailed by keeping Eraring open for longer, Ms Sharpe said the state was already making good progress.

“We believe we can get there,” she said. “It’s very clear that when the targets were originally announced by [former Liberal energy minister] Matt Kean in 2021, Eraring was due to stay open until 2032. And it’s subsequently been brought forward.”

Origin Energy is currently subject to a billion-dollar takeover bid by Canadian property giant Brookfield that was approved by the consumer and competition watchdog this week.

Ms Sharpe refused to comment on the status of its discussions on the plant.

“These are in very sensitive negotiations, which I will say would have been much easier if we still owned Eraring,” she said.

Both Labor and the Coalition have agreed to take a bipartisan approach to the state’s renewable energy transition and emissions reduction efforts. But it is not yet known whether the Coalition will support the legislation.

Mr Kean hit back at Labor for walking away from the Coalition’s goals to slash carbon emissions by 70 per cent by 2035, which the former Perrottet government enshrined in regulation in 2022, before losing office at the March 25 election.

He said the 2030 target was the “easy part” while the steep ramp up of emissions reductions efforts needed beyond the end of the decade would require serious effort and initiatives by the government.

“It’s extraordinary that some of Labor’s first acts in office have been to extend the life of big coal in NSW and low legislate higher emissions,” he said. (SFL Dickheads Extraordinaire!!!)

At the same time, Ms Sharpe said the Net Zero Commission would also play a role setting more interim targets, and emphasised the 2030 target was a “floor, not a ceiling”.

Green Mr Kean – SFL

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2023 9:11 pm

If the Mobile station at one end of the street is more expensive than the one at the other end of the street is it just too hard to drive the extra k to fill up at the cheaper one?
Expensive station simply won’t get the business.

The Queensland government have a fuel watch site, which I imagine even semi trailer drivers could manage to use.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 9:11 pm

I caught a bit of Chris Kenny earlier. He had on some Blonde bint called Amanda Rose.

Why?

[rhetorical]

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 9:12 pm

2023 China Military Strength

China National flag graphic
The GFP index denotes China as a Top 5 world power.

For 2023, China is ranked 3 of 145 out of the countries considered for the annual GFP review. The nation holds a PwrIndx* score of 0.0722 (a score of 0.0000 is considered ‘perfect’). This entry last reviewed on 04/23/2023.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 9:12 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Oct 12, 2023 7:52 PM
Albo’s face has changed dramatically in the last few months.

His hemorrhoids may be giving trouble?

Hope so!

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 9:14 pm

A semi-trailer.
Those servos aren’t marketing to cissies in a little putt-putt town car.

Your bum chum doesn’t drive a semi-trailer. Turtlehead once claimed he drives a clapped-out SUV, so there’s no two hundred bucks. As usual, you’re just making shit up. And for that matter, why can’t someone have a higher price? It’s a market, and we don’t live in the Soviet Union. Stop interfering in discussions, as you never do any good.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:15 pm

Thank you Roger. I went & had a more careful read of Old Ozzie’s 8.59 posted comment.
Worth saving, is that one.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 9:17 pm

Really sorry to learn this.
They were all killed at Lone Pine (depending which day of course)
When’s your funeral?
Or will you be just mulched in, for a fair dinkum Lone Pine burial experience?

That’s your stupid comment, as you know. It’s one of the stupidest comments I’ve ever read, and funny at the same time. Just so typical.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 12, 2023 9:17 pm

My 2c worth. NSW cops and even other forces had no issues putting thousands of cops, riot squads and paramilitary on the streets for COVID protests why the need for lawyers advice?

Also did the Pali Protest Organisers get night time knocks by NSW Pol say like Vic Pol did to Avi or daytime like Tropher Field or even that pregnant Ballarat woman for far less, na thought so.

Tried posting similar to the below last night, though it was better worded.

NSW Police stopping Saturdays march. Horse is out the gate and well down the lane. Police Intelligence would have had the drop this was planned for the night the Opera House was lit up and chose to do nothing but escort them. Na too hard to call a press conference earlier in the day and basically say police would respond in overwhelming numbers to disperse the protest on 2 grounds. 1 that it was inappropriate at that time and 2 they didn’t have whatever permit required. Have your protest at another time.

Instead the police allowed a mob to show their dominance to us skips yet again, well done. IMO the NSW Police minister, Commissioner and Deputy Commissioner need to be sacked. They have shown a gross incompetence that I have yet to see outside the third world. Why haven’t they been sacked?

As much as I despise these people they could have waited till Saturday to protest and I probably still would have tut tutted but they didn’t. IMO now screw their right to protest they forfeited that Monday nights supporting the evil like those beheading babies.

Sorry a little steamed up tonight after the confirmation of the bubs, I have worked in some utterly unstable places on this planetand even the *barbarians there generally left children alone.

*Disclaimer I admit mates who have worked in Africa say they are as bad as these scum.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:17 pm

Rosie, there’s a lot more to it than simple price.
Accessibility.
Parking space.
Speed of the pump (how long it takes to fill up)
Standard of the shower block.
Standard of tucker.
Which servo your boss has told you to fill up at.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
October 12, 2023 9:18 pm

AEC and the case of the electronic sign – Fairfield pre-poll 12-Oct-2023

As mentioned earlier, was at Fairfield pre-poll centre today. Made a short video (25s) about something I saw:
https://youtu.be/OPYkCAEOOTw

AEC officials instructed Yes volunteers to remove an (electronic) sign from public display – because it was too close to looking like official AEC signage.

It was removed, for about 5 minutes. Then the Yes people put it back on public display. The AEC officials were alerted (again), so they inspected the sign (again), but then apparently (mysteriously?) couldn’t make their minds up about whether or not it should be on public display.

The result – it was left on public display while the AEC officials “sought advice”. Which apparently never came – for the remainder of the day.

Valid or not?

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 9:19 pm

Here we go. Let’s change the subject to semi trailer fuel purchases, because it’s so relevant to that degenerate and his clapped out SUV.

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2023 9:19 pm

Obviously don’t know how extensive the hamas tunnel systems are but it is possible that levelling entire neighbourhoods might block a few entrances.
Hopefully.
Saw a little bit of pali evacuation porn including one of two blokes walking an elderly lady for the camera.
Someone that infirm would surely already own a wheelchair.
The rest were rushing around empty handed. Surely you’d have a suitcase packed with your essentials like a change of clothes and a cut lunch?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:20 pm

That’s your stupid comment, as you know. It’s one of the stupidest comments I’ve ever read, and funny at the same time. Just so typical.

No, that really is what happened at Lone Pine.
You could benefit from brushing up, say something as simple as Wikipedia.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2023 9:21 pm

The founder of Hamas, who lives in luxury in Qatar,

Here’s my Faulty Prediction.
I don’t think Qatar (or anywhere else for that matter, including Iran) will be a safe haven.
The lesson which should have been learnt from past Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO atrocities is that there will be no nuclear response. Anyone connected with this is dead man walking, even if it takes 20 years.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 9:21 pm

No, that really is what happened at Lone Pine.
You could benefit from brushing up, say something as simple as Wikipedia.

Yea, but not to you, unfortunately.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:22 pm

I’m a shade too young to have been in the Army in 1915.
Deal with that how you may.

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2023 9:25 pm

I’m sure you are right Satp, the boss would insist that you fill up only in Barcaldine and only at the more expensive of the two Mobil stations in town.
And if the boss wants his truck drivers to pay the extra 10c a litre, why do you care?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:26 pm

ffs Rosie, are you deliberately trying to be prickly?

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2023 9:27 pm

I regularly see up to 40c a litre differences in fuel prices across Melbourne.
Obviously the Barcaldine ‘problem’ is not unique.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 9:27 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 12, 2023 9:22 PM

I’m a shade too young to have been in the Army in 1915.
Deal with that how you may.

LOl. Wasn’t that your quote then? I’m happy to link to it, if it’s okay with you. 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 9:28 pm

The goal isn’t to level Gaza.
The goal is to turn the 30,000 Hamas into red goo.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 12, 2023 9:29 pm

When you find yourself hoping that the bad guys win and wipe out the hero and heroine as messily as possible, you know you’re reading the wrong book.

Dr BG, that is my exact evaluation of Baz Luhrmann’s film, Romeo + Juliet. I couldn’t wait for them both to die. Two of the most unsympathetic characters evah!

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2023 9:29 pm

It’s like paying $5 a kilo for Pontiac potatoes rather than $2.50 for generic washed ones, so you can save a $1 on cooking them in bulk and freezing them.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:30 pm

LOl. Wasn’t that your quote then? I’m happy to link to it, if it’s okay with you.

????

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:30 pm

It’s like paying $5 a kilo for Pontiac potatoes rather than $2.50 for generic washed ones, so you can save a $1 on cooking them in bulk and freezing them.

????

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 9:30 pm

It’s like paying $5 a kilo for Pontiac potatoes rather than $2.50 for generic washed ones, so you can save a $1 on cooking them in bulk and freezing them.

It’s yams not potatoes. A mass cooked of frozen yams. Lord Almighty.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 9:31 pm

Phatty Adams is a 1970’s lefty. He still thinks it is about working classes and bourgeoises and tractor factories and shit.

Mother Lode, Adams is a 1960s lefty, he is too old for the 1970s that were all about flares pants, hot pants, glam rock and then disco. Most of us didn’t give a rat’s arse about class struggle and we drank Bacardi and coke, moselle, Chablis and Rhine Gold while my father in law preferred Hardys Rose. Guys were into Reschs Beer and DA.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:32 pm

There’s a min jar of Peck’s Paste & a box of Jatz been left in the office by someone.
Left over from a birthday party or somesuch.
That’s my dinner sorted for tonight. 🙂

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 9:33 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 12, 2023 9:30 PM

LOl. Wasn’t that your quote then? I’m happy to link to it, if it’s okay with you.

????

???????????????

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 9:33 pm

Roger
Oct 12, 2023 9:10 PM

OldOzzie
Oct 12, 2023 8:59 PM

Worth posting on Peter West’s ‘Tet Offensive’ thread, O.O.

Roger,

do you have a LINK?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
October 12, 2023 9:34 pm

Here’s my Faulty Prediction.
I don’t think Qatar (or anywhere else for that matter, including Iran) will be a safe haven.

Sancho – I somehow get the feeling that the main protagonists will be dealt with in the same vein that the main players from the Munich Olympics were.

This time i think it will be aiming for every head on the Hydra. If there is a large explosion at an Iranian nuke facility in the next two years you can colour me not surprised.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 9:34 pm

Did anyone see the Herzog press conference?
He doesn’t take shit that chappie.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 12, 2023 9:34 pm

I just watched Kenny. He’s becoming rabid. 16 years of working toward this going down the drain.

I had to turn it off when he brought on Megan Davis. Why did you say that the USFTH was more than one page, he asked. I didn’t wait for her response.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2023 9:35 pm

flyingduk

Oct 12, 2023 6:29 PM

A small system failure was exacerbated by crew incompetence, and a quirk in the Airbus controls where the computer would “average” the stick inputs.

I was under the impression that Airbus flight software would not accept any control inputs that would put the aircraft outside of its permissible flight envelope

It was already outside the “permissible flight envelope”.
Stalled and spinning.
FO was responding to either a dodgy AI or ASI and was pulling back hard.
Right hand seat had correctly identified a stall and was pushing forward to get it flying again.
Computer says … get back to me when you two have sorted it out.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 9:35 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 12, 2023 9:32 PM

There’s a min jar of Peck’s Paste

Boy that brings back memories of School Sandwiches early 50s

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:35 pm

Rockdoctor Oct 12, 2023 9:17 PM

+10

JohnJJJ
JohnJJJ
October 12, 2023 9:39 pm

“As a librarian, Yasmin spent many years working for Lake Macquarie City Council. Raising her children locally, Yasmin is actively involved in our community”
Yasmin Catley, Minister for Police and Counter Terrorism Yes that library had quite a collection of the Hadiths, Dabiq, Rumiyah…
I am sure she is prepared for Al Aqsa Flood tomorrow

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
October 12, 2023 9:39 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 12, 2023 9:32 PM

There’s a min jar of Peck’s Paste & a box of Jatz been left in the office by someone.

An Anchovette sandwich would be nice, i loved that stuff as a kid.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 9:40 pm

Herzog stupidly called on a bird from RT towards the end.
She piped up with “can you confirm reports of weapons from Ukraine were found amongst the Hamas bodies”.
He dispatched it but unfortunately too late before the interwebs had their latest conspiracy theory.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 9:40 pm

Crossie
Oct 12, 2023 9:31 PM
Phatty Adams is a 1970’s lefty. He still thinks it is about working classes and bourgeoises and tractor factories and shit.

Mother Lode, Adams is a 1960s lefty, he is too old for the 1970s that were all about flares pants, hot pants, glam rock and then disco. Most of us didn’t give a rat’s arse about class struggle and we drank Bacardi and coke, moselle, Chablis and Rhine Gold while my father in law preferred Hardys Rose. Guys were into Reschs Beer and DA.

Crossie,
that brought back memories of my older brothers and sisters. 😀

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 9:44 pm

Worth posting on Peter West’s ‘Tet Offensive’ thread, O.O.

Roger,

do you have a LINK?
Ozzie, go to the Cat Home page. The Tet Offensive thread is there.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 9:50 pm

Pogria
Oct 12, 2023 9:44 PM

“Worth posting on Peter West’s ‘Tet Offensive’ thread, O.O.

Roger,

do you have a LINK?”
Ozzie, go to the Cat Home page. The Tet Offensive thread is there.

Thanks Pogria & Roger – Brain missed that one

Now posted – https://newcatallaxy.blog/2023/10/11/israels-tet-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-613266

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:50 pm

never really understood why she was more angry with her neighbours than the Germans, but I do now.
This is how I feel about the likes of the Slick Willie Simmons of the world, the Tony Burkes

Cassie, an excellent point.
One worthy of wider mention.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 9:50 pm

JC:
JC
Oct 12, 2023 8:53 PM

Turtlhead. that would be you figuring out $2.49 thinking it’s cheaper than $2.29. Anyway, you nobody, how do you even know 6 women lost their jobs. If you dislike them so much and think “thems injinans stole mi petrewl”, you’re obviously not buying from them. So why are you stalking a petrol station, you lice ridden cretin?

I buy at the $2.29 site, you twit.
I knew the girls who worked there. Barcaldine is a small town.
You are drunk aren’t you?
Go on, sneak downstairs and have a ciggie, you bloody great sook. Your missus won’t smell it on you….

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 9:51 pm

Those servos aren’t marketing to cissies in a little putt-putt town car.

Do you know any truckies that use their work vehicle as their daily driver or when they drive to golf or the supermarket on Sundays? Neither do I.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 9:51 pm

Carpe Jugulum
Oct 12, 2023 9:39 PM

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 12, 2023 9:32 PM

There’s a min jar of Peck’s Paste & a box of Jatz been left in the office by someone.

An Anchovette sandwich would be nice, i loved that stuff as a kid.

Sal and Carpe,
For dinner tonight, I had a Goose egg, gently fried in butter until the white was just set, and the yolk gloriously runny, sprinkled with Rare Gin Salt and a good splash of Smoky Chipotle Tabasco. Accompanied with a fat slice of well buttered, home-made sourdough toast.
Neener, neener. 😀

I too, loved Peck’s Anchovette years back. Was also partial to Devilled Ham Spread. True!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 9:54 pm

How many persecuted White Farmers from South Africa is she happy for us to accept?

South African farmers are prepared to live in rural Australia, where Australians don’t want to live. They are prepared to work on the land, which work Australians see as “demeaning” and “beneath them.”

The Pali’s will want to live close to other Muslims, and where there is a mosque close handy. Vast difference.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:55 pm

Do you know any truckies

Dot, do you know any?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 9:56 pm

Pogria
Oct 12, 2023 9:40 PM

“Crossie
Oct 12, 2023 9:31 PM
Phatty Adams is a 1970’s lefty. He still thinks it is about working classes and bourgeoises and tractor factories and shit.

Mother Lode, Adams is a 1960s lefty, he is too old for the 1970s that were all about flares pants, hot pants, glam rock and then disco.

Most of us didn’t give a rat’s arse about class struggle and we drank Bacardi and coke, moselle, Chablis and Rhine Gold while my father in law preferred Hardys Rose. Guys were into Reschs Beer and DA.”

Pogria,

perfect description of me in 70s – with Flares Pants – add – mens platform shoes of the 70s with flared pants

Plus Disco & the Drinks as a Non Beer drinker describes me as well

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 9:57 pm

..gently fried in butter until the white was just set, and the yolk gloriously runny, sprinkled with Rare Gin Salt and a good splash of Smoky Chipotle Tabasco.

I don’t even know what this means.
I feel so … unrefined.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 9:58 pm

I buy at the $2.29 site, you twit.

What was the purpose of quoting us the pwices from various stations from that shithole you live? What’s it to prove, that price differentials exist and that you don’t like injians. What’s your point , dickhead?

Your bum chum believes your drive a semi.

I knew the girls who worked there. Barcaldine is a small town.

I bet you didn’t and just making shit up to somehow invoke feminine emotion being a low t male.

You are drunk aren’t you?

Nope. Just responding to your emotional outburst. Go and eat some frozen yams.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 9:59 pm

Zulu,
a few years back, there was a push to bring the SA Farmers to Australia. The usual suspects screamed and ranted about unfairness and queue jumping. If I recall correctly, hardly any made it here. They would have been a huge boost to Australian Agriculture.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:00 pm

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Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 12, 2023 9:55 PM

Do you know any truckies

Dot, do you know any?

Me A class HC – Heavy Combination licence lets you drive:

– heavy combination vehicles such as articulated vehicles with three or more axles and tow trailer combinations with a GVM more than 9 tonnes, including unladen dolly any vehicle covered by a class HR licence.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:01 pm

What was the purpose of quoting us the pwices from various stations from that shithole you live?

How & why is it a “shithole”?

I knew the girls who worked there. Barcaldine is a small town.

I bet you didn’t and just making shit up

You really are a very stupid man, with very limited life experience.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 10:02 pm

If I recall correctly, hardly any made it here. They would have been a huge boost to Australian Agriculture.

There are quite a few, working in agriculture, and the supporting industries, in the Western Australian wheatbelt.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 10:02 pm

JC:

Oct 12, 2023 8:57 PM
the 6 women said they were sacked.

And you know this how? Citation!

Unlike you, J.C, he probably remembers it from when I’ve spoken of it on at least 4 occasions.
I’ve a feeling Salvatores brain isn’t as stuffed as yours, you stupid old soak.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 10:02 pm

I know plenty of truck drivers, it’s not a rare occupation. They all own “cissy” cars too, for shame.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 10:02 pm

I feel so … unrefined.

Smoky Chipolte Tabasco tastes of nothing much.

Habanero Tabasco is much better. My local IGA stocks it, they’re enlightened.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 10:03 pm

On Monday night we Jews of Sydney were not just told we had to keep silent, we were told we had to clear the streets, the roads, the lanes and the avenues of Sydney’s CBD, we were told to hide in our homes, this was no different to what happened to us during World War II, when one of the first things the Germans would do was to prohibit Jews from walking the streets of the cities, towns, villages they occupied, and they would issue edicts to designate that areas be “judenfrei”…….cleansed” of Jews. That’s what the NSW Police issued on Monday night, they issued an order that Sydney’s CBD was to be “judenfrei”.

Apologies about the rant.

No apologies necessary. What I find astounding is that the people who presume to govern us are so totally ignorant of history so how can they be trusted to make prudent decisions. As far as they are concerned everything is fluid and depends on how it is perceived and amplified by the media.

It wouldn’t be so bad if at least the media knew what they were doing, knew history and could report properly in light of historical circumstances. Unfortunately media are even more ignorant than the politicians and have no idea what they are doing. I don’t know how we right this ship.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:03 pm

I know plenty of truck drivers

I won bingo again.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 10:04 pm

perfect description of me in 70s – with Flares Pants – add – mens platform shoes of the 70s with flared pants

Plus Disco & the Drinks as a Non Beer drinker describes me as well

hahahaha, Old Ozzie, the platform shoes, with the bulging toes. We called them Mickey Mouse Shoes! Oh God, the Flares!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 10:04 pm

The butcher’s shop in one Wheatbelt town sells the best boerwoers I’ve tasted outside South Africa, itself.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:07 pm

The butcher’s shop in one Wheatbelt town sells the best boerwoers I’ve tasted outside South Africa, itself.

They survived covid? Good on ’em.
The couple of South African shops here closed up during lockdown.
There’s a lot of South Africans here, to the point I’d hear Afrikaans spoken almost every day in the shops.

Thank you Slomo, you spent Billions of our dollars, & drove a couple of immigrant families out of business.

I hope there’s a reason to cut your pension off, you mongrel.

cohenite
October 12, 2023 10:08 pm

I caught a bit of Chris Kenny earlier. He had on some Blonde bint called Amanda Rose.

She came across as a loon. Bring all the pallis to Australia she vented. She personifies the virtuous leftie whose overwhelming motive is to be seen as doing good, no matter what evil or destruction comes from that; she did not refer to the Israelis at all.

It must be loon time for Sky. Bolta had this creep on earlier. He organised the abc debacle turning up at the home of the gas executive.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 10:09 pm

JC
Oct 12, 2023 8:59 PM
I feel like an Anzac at Lone Pine

FMD.

Why would you, you gutless prick?
You’ve never signed the Unlimited Liability Contract, and as you’ve mentioned before your first move would be – in the case of a war involving this country – jump on a plane to the US.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:09 pm

Unlike you, J.C, he probably remembers it from when I’ve spoken of it on at least 4 occasions.

Okay, cite at least 2 occasions.

Go!

I’ve a feeling Salvatores brain isn’t as stuffed as yours, you stupid old soak.

Dependent much? Has there ever been a time you’ve stood up on your own without snorkeling up to others to help you, you lice ridden cretin.

Furthermore, you mental pygmy, if people buy a business and decide to re-arrange the furniture, what’s it to do with you? Your pal, Conrad, once came on here boasting he fired one of the motel workers for burning his toast. So much for up the worker, you intellect.

And by the way, you think we can’t see you messing about with the ticks?

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 10:09 pm

perfect description of me in 70s – with Flares Pants – add – mens platform shoes of the 70s with flared pants

Oldozzie, I scrolled down a bit and saw platform shoes similar to the ones my husband wore to our wedding. Mine, of course, were white.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 10:10 pm

ABC Middle East correspondent Tom Joyner labels stories about babies being beheaded in Israel ‘bullsh1t’

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The ABC’s Middle Eastern correspondent Tom Joyner has labelled reports about babies being beheaded by Hamas terrorists in ­Israel as “bullsh1t” during a fiery exchange in a WhatsApp group with hundreds of international journalists and broadcasters.

Joyner, who is reporting on the conflict between Israel and Pales­tine, told a WhatsApp chat group on Tuesday – in now-deleted comments – he did not believe stories being reported around the world about babies being beheaded were true.

“This story about the babies is bullsh1t,” he posted to the large group of media representatives sharing information about the attacks in Israel by Hamas terrorists.

WhatsApp messages posted by Joyner, seen by The Australian, were met with condemnation from many members of the media who are part of the chat group set up shortly after the conflict in Israel began at the weekend.

One group member responded to Joyner’s “bullshit” comment with “Care to retract this now?”

Joyner immediately replied, telling the group he was sorry for his remarks.

“I’m sorry about the wording – I regret that. But we still have not seen clear evidence,” he wrote on WhatsApp.

“Why hasn’t there been anything unequivocal from the IDF (Israel Defence Forces) or from Netanyahu.”

Many reports, including from i24News correspondent Nicole Zedek who is in Tel Aviv, told of first-hand testimony from soldiers about the beheadings.

“Some soldiers say they found babies with their heads cut off, entire families gunned down in their beds,” she said.

“About 40 babies and young children have been taken out on gurneys – so far.”’

Zedek also said in a TV interview that soldiers had told of the atrocities they had witnessed.

“As I was speaking to some of the soldiers, one of the deputy commanders who was first on the scene to arrive to this massacre on Saturday, he said that with his own eyes he witnessed children with their heads cut off by these masked terrorists,” Zedek said.

In the WhatsApp messages shared among international media representatives, Joyner was quickly met with condemnation by journalists reporting on the war in Israel.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2023 10:10 pm

But I’m concerned that you’re trying to assimilate and handle all the horrific information largely by yourself, without any real help.”

All good Delta, but thank you for thinking.

It is good to have this blog to vent, and I find writing helps me.

I have close family and friends. However we’re all numb with grief.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 12, 2023 10:11 pm

Rita Panahi:

Your vote in Saturday’s referendum is likely to be the most important vote you’ll ever cast. The outcome of the race-based referendum is far more consequential than any state or federal election and of greater import than the republican referendum held some 24 years ago.

To enshrine racial privilege into our founding document would be a monumental mistake; a massive step backwards with far-reaching consequences.

If the No vote prevails it would be a proud moment for Australia.

An unequivocal rejection of race politics and attempts to divide us by ethnicity.

It would be a rejection of victimhood culture and the bigotry of low expectations.

And, it would be a triumph of a genuine grassroots campaign against the powerful, wealthy elite.

The latest poll shows the Voice faltering further. The YouGov poll has No on 56 per cent, Yes on 38 per cent, with six per cent undecided. Among Coalition voters the gap between the No and Yes votes is a whopping 55 points with only one in five Liberal/National voters planning to back the Voice. For Labor voters the gap is only 13 points with 53 per cent backing Albanese’s referendum.

Far more interesting is that Australians are more likely to vote No if they have read the Uluru Statement from the Heart, according to YouGov.

This backs up polling by RedBridge that showed when exposed to the arguments of the Yes and No camps, the No vote increased further, with one in four people who were leaning towards supporting the referendum switching their vote to No.

So much for Ray Martin’s asinine “dinosaurs and d**kheads” commentary; the evidence suggests those who have done their homework are more likely to vote No.

So much for Ray Martin’s asinine “dinosaurs and d**kheads” commentary; the evidence suggests those who have done their homework are more likely to vote No.

It’s not surprising that citizens who have taken the time to read the Uluru statement are more likely to vote No than those who haven’t.

The PM’s claims that the document is “a generous, gracious and optimistic invitation to all Australians”, is spurious to say the least.

As Australia’s greatest historian Geoffrey Blainey wrote, it’s a “vulnerable document” that “condemns Australian people for misdeeds that never happened.”

“The Uluru statement is militant. It offers no sentence of respect or gratitude to the Australian people.”

You don’t even have to read the full statement to see how militant and divisive it is with its calls for a treaty, aka makarrata, on the first page.

And thankfully, despite much of the media’s efforts to confuse and obfuscate, there is plenty of vision of Voice architects explaining how it is the first step to treaty and designed to empower representatives to negotiate from a position of strength.

Though polls show that the Voice will be defeated comprehensively, it’s important not to be complacent.

The Yes camp is not only cashed up like no other political campaign has ever been in this country, but it’s also indulging in dirty tactics including misleading information about crosses and ticks, and deliberately copying the colours of the AEC for their election posters.

The AEC has admonished the campaign but the damage is done.

Yes has the backing of the corporate world, sporting bodies, celebrities, majority of the media and has a war chest of around $100m. Yet despite all these advantages they are failing because their proposal is abhorrent in principle and dangerous if put into practice.

The notion that we need a constitutionally enshrined Voice for Indigenous people to be heard is absurd.

We have dozens of such advisory bodies already, at both state and federal level, giving advice on policy development, including the Coalition of Peaks which represent more than 80 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander community-controlled peak and member organisations. The National Indigenous Australians Agency alone has more than 1300 employees and a multi-billion dollar budget.

The emotional blackmail being employed by Yes is built on half-truths and lies.

The Australian people want better outcomes for the Indigenous community, but further empowering the destructive activist class, entrenching an ATSIC-on-steroids body in the Constitution, is not how we get there.

This referendum has been enormously divisive and one could argue damaging.

But we should seize the opportunity to pursue real, meaningful change starting with a thorough investigation into the billions squandered every year.

The first step is to bring a measure of accountability to the existing bodies that have delivered such poor outcomes.

Looking at you Noel Pearson.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 10:11 pm

There are quite a few, working in agriculture, and the supporting industries, in the Western Australian wheatbelt.

Zulu, so good to hear that, thanks.
Before I left Camden for the wilds of outer Goulburnia, I used to frequent a Butcher’s come Braai shop run by a SA emigre. He had fantastic cuts of meat and the selection of barbecue seasonings and sauces was unbelievable.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 10:13 pm

And that’s why we have sod all shipbuilding capacity.

Incredible.
We live on an island and have sod all shipbuilding capacity.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:13 pm

Why would you, you gutless prick?

You know every well, I’m quoting your bosses comment. That’s Driller, who you’re currently dependent on to help you.

You’ve never signed the Unlimited Liability Contract,

Huh, why would I do that.

and as you’ve mentioned before your first move would be – in the case of a war involving this country – jump on a plane to the US.

Have I? You said your keeping comments, show /cite the comment and the date, you lice ridden cretin.

That’s two sets of citations you owe the site now.

Go!

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 12, 2023 10:13 pm

“I’m sorry about the wording – I regret that. But we still have not seen clear evidence,” he wrote on WhatsApp.

“Why hasn’t there been anything unequivocal from the IDF (Israel Defence Forces) or from Netanyahu.”

So he’s not sorry whatsoever. Put Joyner in Gaza. Might not last long.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:14 pm

ABC reporter Nour Haydar under fire over social media posts about Israel-Palestine conflict: ‘Does she work for the ABC or Al-Jazeera?’

Nour Haydar’s feed filled with retweets about Israel

An ABC political reporter has been accused of breaching the national broadcaster’s strict impartiality guidelines after sharing controversial tweets about the conflict in Israel and surrounding fallout in Australia.

Federal politics reporter Nour Haydar shared the tweets after the Palestinian militant group Hamas unleashed a horrific terrorist attack on the Jewish homeland on Saturday, killing hundreds of innocent civilians.

Following the attacks, hundreds of protesters caused chaos outside the Opera House in Sydney shouting ‘gas the Jews’ and ‘f*** the Jews,’ prompting NSW premier Chris Minns to call off an upcoming Free Palestine rally.

Ms Haydar did not appear to support his decision to ban the upcoming protest, and shared a message from Palestinian activist Randa Abdel-Fattah.

How is it possible that Palestinians in Australia are being policed for their language, protests, grief, called animals, accused of supporting terrorism, framed as instigators, and an Australian Jewish organisation openly calls for genocide,’ the reposted tweet states.

The comments were in response to the Australian Jewish Association supporting air strikes against Hamas targets in Gaza in retaliation to the terror attacks on Israel.

‘Pure evil must be eradicated from this earth. Flatten it,’ The Australian Jewish Association wrote.

‘Sometimes to eradicate pure evil, innocents die.

It’s sad Hamas hides among the civilian population. It’s sad they don’t love their own children to bring this on them. It’s a double war crime.’

Ms Haydar’s recent online activity caught the attention of 2GB presenter Ray Hadley.

‘I don’t know whether that’s covered by the ABC policy on social media, but she’s reposted quite a number,’ he told listeners.

‘So we need to check with the boss of the ABC to see whether the postings by Nour Hadar, even though they were not her own words, whether they’re in contravention of the ABC and their policy on social media postings.’

Another retweet Ms Haydar shared was from The Guardian’s Jerusalem correspondent, Bethan McKernan, which read: ‘Initial reports surfacing that Israeli settlers indiscriminately opened fire on a crowd of Palestinians in Qusra near Nablus.’

A third retweet from Human Rights Watch states: ‘Deliberate killings of civilians, hostage-taking, and collective punishment are heinous crimes that have no justification.’

Along with Hadley, some Aussies were quick to call out Ms Haydar over her retweets.

‘Does Nour Haydar work for the ABC or Al-Jazeera? Thrilled to see taxpayer dollars paying the salary of a clearly biased ABC journalist.

Another person added: The TwiXter feed of ABC racist Nour Haydar makes her sound like a PR agent for Hamas terrorists. The sort of dribble she retweets, all day, on our dime.

Why are ABC activists supporting the terrorists on our dime.’

An ABC spokeswoman didn’t respond to questions of whether the retweets were appropriate or if any action will be taken.

‘This is a personal social media account, not an ABC account or ABC content,’ she told Daily Mail Australia.

‘All staff are required to meet the ABC Social Media guidelines.’

Shut Down the ABC

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 10:15 pm

to the point I’d hear Afrikaans spoken almost every day in the shops.

Various tractor and truck drivers here, regarded speaking Afrikaans on the two way radio, as a basic form of communication security…
“The boss was a slave-driver, the machinery was junk, the wages were pathetic, but cheep up boys, we’ll all be home for Christmas…”

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:16 pm

if people buy a business and decide to re-arrange the furniture, what’s it to do with you?

Free country. Nobody requires your permission to discuss any aspect of a business in our local area.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 10:16 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 12, 2023 10:03 PM

I know plenty of truck drivers

I won bingo again.

Que?

Many people commenting have had different careers in their lives and lived in a few places so they know a lot of people across the entire country and I’m no different. Knowing a truck driver isn’t a rare life experience. Calling driving a normal car “cissy” is strange. Nearly all truck drivers drive regular cars when they’re not working in a prime mover.

I can’t fathom what your point is. I can’t understand why a truck driver would not try to buy the cheapest fuel they could all of the time, a minimum level of quality notwithstanding.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 10:17 pm

I don’t know if I’ve related this anecdote before about life in the 1970s. We lived in a block of flats that had four Hills hoists on the side of the buildings for residents’ use. One Saturday when I went to collect our washing I found that my husband’s purple flared trousers were missing. We found later in the afternoon that another couple had just moved out. It was a few years before my husband got over the theft of his purple flares.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:17 pm

once came on here boasting he fired one of the motel workers for burning his toast.

No. And no matter how many horrid swear words you type, they will not make up for you being unable to cite this.

For it never happened.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:19 pm

Calling driving a normal car “cissy” is strange

That would depend upon whether the particular car drive is normal or not. 🙂

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2023 10:19 pm

Wishful thinking by lefties journalists.
Islamists love beheading, we saw it again and again with Isis, you think drug fuelled hamas terrorists wouldn’t have stooped to just about anything?
I have no doubt it was done in front of their parents, quite deliberately.
Hamas and their apologists are sickening.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:20 pm

Robert Sewell
Oct 12, 2023 10:13 PM

And that’s why we have sod all shipbuilding capacity.

Incredible.
We live on an island and have sod all shipbuilding capacity.

We have a few male nurses, though. And thank god for that, hey?

Dickhead, you appear to have lots of time on your hands, as you’re here all day, making stupid comments or ticking likes and dislikes. Why don’t you go out and show us all how it’s done and construct a shipbuilding terminal? Go!

You know, it actually annoys me—just what a hyperbolic, dishonest cretin you are. It’s annoying.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:20 pm

I can’t understand why a truck driver would not try to buy the cheapest fuel they could all of the time, a minimum level of quality notwithstanding.

You’re beginning to catch on.
Anyone who purchased Woolworth’s Plus Petrol will know exactly why chasing the cheapest price may not be the smartest idea.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:21 pm

No. And no matter how many horrid swear words you type, they will not make up for you being unable to cite this.

For it never happened.

The tell for Driller’s lying.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 10:22 pm

rosie they disbelieve it because it is so bad.

A less shocking (?) or at least similar (in terms of cognition and perception) example is when you tell a normie how many abortions happen every year in Australia.

They just refuse to believe it could be that high.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:23 pm

So post a link. We can wait.
You won’t, for it is impossible to link to that which never existed.

Type a few insults, some swearwords, & some spittle onto your screen. That’ll compensate for being called on something you’re unable to back up.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 10:24 pm

Verruca’s been sniffing the Anusol again. You’re supposed to “apply” it, not snort it.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 10:25 pm

rosie

Oct 12, 2023 9:11 PM
If the Mobile station at one end of the street is more expensive than the one at the other end of the street is it just too hard to drive the extra k to fill up at the cheaper one?
Expensive station simply won’t get the business.
The Queensland government have a fuel watch site, which I imagine even semi trailer drivers could manage to use.

There are two factors here –
.1 The Bulk (cheapest) is the half a dozen 20,000liter tanks in an open space. No facilities – well there’s a donga among the tanks but it’s not all that visible.
.2 The most expensive is the Indian run one, and it’s like a normal all concreted driveway with a shop and toilets. It’s on the main drag and quite visible. We watch the tourists nearly always go there even if the price is 20 cents a litre more expensive. There’s another aspect that someone pointed out to me – the Indian staff don’t stay very long, about a month and disappear. Old mate reckons the owner is making a quid out of imports and they keep moving them around so they don’t get caught. I don’t know about that, but he reckons that’s why the station hasn’t gone broke – the fuel is just a sideline, the money is in the work visas. There’s no pressure to reduce the prices – they exist on the caravanners who don’t check.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 10:27 pm

Rosie:

The Queensland government have a fuel watch site, which I imagine even semi trailer drivers could manage to use.

Yes they do – which is why they use the bulk depot. Never see them in the pricey place except to deliver.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 10:28 pm

Crossie,
purple flares, purple seat covers, purple, fluffy dice and hairy chests with lots of gold chains. And, best of all, Moustaches!

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:28 pm

So post a link. We can wait.

People are free to believe anything they want. They can choose to believe me as some have likely read your blowharding or they can believe a fraud pretending he’s owned a pub all these years.

Like an Anzac at Lone Pine.

You won’t, for it is impossible to link to that which never existed.

You were asked to provide the citation claiming 6 women were furloughed. I’ve yet to see that citation.

Go!

Type a few insults, some swearwords, & some spittle onto your screen. That’ll compensate for being called on something you’re unable to back up.

Or disparage people’s family and call them dagos. Coming from a houso, it’s kind of amusing.

Indolent
Indolent
October 12, 2023 10:30 pm
JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:31 pm

Unique. He’s now stalking petrol stations, in between pretending he’s a genius on a blog.

We watch the tourists nearly always go there even if the price is 20 cents a litre more expensive. There’s another aspect that someone pointed out to me – the Indian staff don’t stay very long, about a month and disappear. Old mate reckons the owner is making a quid out of imports and they keep moving them around so they don’t get caught. I don’t know about that, but he reckons that’s why the station hasn’t gone broke – the fuel is just a sideline, the money is in the work visas. There’s no pressure to reduce the prices – they exist on the caravanners who don’t check.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2023 10:31 pm

Carpe Jugulum

Oct 12, 2023 9:34 PM

Here’s my Faulty Prediction.
I don’t think Qatar (or anywhere else for that matter, including Iran) will be a safe haven.

Sancho – I somehow get the feeling that the main protagonists will be dealt with in the same vein that the main players from the Munich Olympics were.

This time i think it will be aiming for every head on the Hydra. If there is a large explosion at an Iranian nuke facility in the next two years you can colour me not surprised.

Yes.
What I meant by “No nukes” is that there would be no random dropping of nukes on Pali territory, as advocated by some here.
But taking out Iranian facilities is totally on the agenda. There is a precedent.
As there is for tracking down those who plan and execute these atrocities. I think those involved in Munich died a thousand deaths before their actual demise. One hopes those involved in this murderous escapade suffer the same fate.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:32 pm

Definitely Not NSW Labor Premier Chris Minns & his Wimp Female Police Minister and Female Police Commissioner – Shades of Christine Nixon “I need to get my Hair done & have a Meal”

NYPD orders all cops to report in uniform after ex-Hamas chief calls for global protests

The NYPD has ordered all cops to report in uniform starting Friday in anticipation of potential unrest stemming from a call by the former leader of Hamas to stage global demonstrations in support of Palestinians, The Post has learned.

“All uniformed members of the service in every rank, will perform duty in the uniform of the day and be prepared for deployment,” read a Wednesday night memo sent to all NYPD members.

Cops will not be granted excusals or shift changes and the order will remain in effect “until further notice,” according to the memo.

The directive was issued after Khaled Meshaal, who served as chief of Hamas from 2004 to 2017, called on the Islamic world to stage the protests on Friday.

The NYPD is also beefing up security at all of its 77 police precincts, assigning additional cops to monitor entryways and parking areas at the station houses, according to the internal memo.

Additionally, the department activated its Joint Operations Center (JOC) at its Manhattan headquarters in anticipation of the possible mayhem.

Multiple agencies — including the Sanitation Department, Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority and the FDNY — will be required to alert the JOC “as soon as they become aware of any incidents related to this event” from Thursday through Sunday, the memo states.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:32 pm

JC Oct 12, 2023 10:28 PM

Seriously bloke: RUOK?
That comment isn’t even coherent.
Seek a mental health consultation asap.

You’ve either got a tumour growing alarmingly in your grey matter, or have dementia more advanced than first thought.

Seriously, this is not a joke.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:34 pm

The most expensive is the Indian run one, and it’s like a normal all concreted driveway with a shop and toilets. It’s on the main drag and quite visible. We watch the tourists nearly always go there even if the price is 20 cents a litre more expensive.

So the operation which obviously offers the most utility – with the highest rent level or land value etc. shouldn’t maximize revenues because it’s run by thems cheating injians. FMD, He’s a lice ridden loser.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:35 pm

He’s now stalking petrol stations,
We watch the tourists nearly always go there

How does that rate when compared to, say, posting comments on the trouserwear of gentlemen in coffee shops, or posting comments on the hairstyle, demeanour & manner of dress of a primary school kid on the street?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:37 pm

Pogria
Oct 12, 2023 10:28 PM

Crossie,

purple flares, purple seat covers, purple, fluffy dice and hairy chests with lots of gold chains. And, best of all, Moustaches!

Even though Italian, no hairy chest – cleanskin – and definitley no gold chains or Moustaches

Best I can offer is photo of me in my Platoon in the Army before going to showers, with towel over shoulder and with bare chest

Niece said “Whose that Hunk there” – was stunned when she found our was me – Ageing is a Bummer

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 10:37 pm

JC
Oct 12, 2023 9:14 PM

A semi-trailer.
Those servos aren’t marketing to cissies in a little putt-putt town car.

Your bum chum doesn’t drive a semi-trailer. Turtlehead once claimed he drives a clapped-out SUV, so there’s no two hundred bucks. As usual, you’re just making shit up. And for that matter, why can’t someone have a higher price? It’s a market, and we don’t live in the Soviet Union. Stop interfering in discussions, as you never do any good.

It’s not a clapped out SUV, dickhead. It’s a Nissan Patrol and yes they take 130 litres to fill. 90 in the main tank, and 45 in the reserve. And 250,005km (I just checked) on the clock – isn’t clapped out. It’s in damn good nick. It’s not like one of the rollerskates you drive around in, and have to get rid of at <40K because they start falling apart.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:37 pm

Seriously bloke: RUOK?

I’m fine, but how’s the motel? Still feeling like an Anzac and Lone Pine. You blowhard.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 10:38 pm

I’m not sure if “Rufus T Firefly” really is Graeme Bird*, but insinuating that “Bush did 9/11” and “I am not blaming Jews”, Bush was very pro-Israel and Zionist.

Jews in the Bush administration, relevant to the 9/11 attacks and subsequent war and criminal trials.

Michael Chertoff – DOJ Criminal Divisional Head
Douglas Feith – Undersecretary for Defense Policy
Ari Fleischer – White House Press Secretary
David Frum – Speechwriter
Blake Gottesman – personal aide to Bush
Scooter Libby – Chief of Staff to VP Cheney
Ken Mehlman – White House Political Director
Paul Wolfowitz – Deputy Secretary of Defense
Dov Zakheim – Undersecretary of Defence (Financial Controller)

Considering the accusations levelled at the administration, particularly the Defence Department, this is really vile. Let’s not forget the idea that the US and Israel on 7/10/2023 “allowed” Hamas to attack Israel.

We also have that Steve Trickler idiot professing that “9/11 was an inside job”.

*400 tonnes a week to China is dumb enough to be Bird though. 400 tonnes of commercial rubble is only the volume of about 20 shipping containers or 40 loosely packed. That would have taken a very long time to ship to China. There was over 350,000 tonnes of concrete used to construct the WTC.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:43 pm

I’m fine, but how’s the motel? Still feeling like an Anzac and Lone Pine. You blowhard.

Wtf are you on about?

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 10:44 pm

Habanero Tabasco is much better. My local IGA stocks it, they’re enlightened.
Bruce, have you checked out the Hot Sauce section properly at your IGA? Go Aussie made. Bunster’s Salami Sauce is chockers with Habanero. Very tasty. And, recently, I picked up a bottle of Riverina “Goat Chasers”, a hundred Farts in every squeeze! That’s what it says on the bottle.
Also, goose eggs are too rare a treat to be overpowered with a very hot sauce. Save that for chook eggs.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 10:45 pm

Rosie:

Obviously don’t know how extensive the hamas tunnel systems are but it is possible that levelling entire neighbourhoods might block a few entrances.
Hopefully.

I wonder if the RAF still have a couple of those Grand Slam Bomb casings that can be filled and dropped?

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:47 pm

It’s not a clapped out SUV, dickhead.

Oh, okay, then.
 

It’s a Nissan Patrol and yes they take 130 litres to fill. 90 in the main tank, and 45 in the reserve.

Oh, okay then. It doesn’t appear you’re using that much petrewl, seeing as you’re endowing everyone with stupid comments here nearly every day as madly ticking likes and dislikes. You don’t appear like a big-time traveler.

And 250,005km (I just checked) on the clock – isn’t clapped out.

225K is clapped out, but keep thinking it’s a new SUV hot off the showroom.

 

It’s in damn good nick. It’s not like one of the rollerskates you drive around in, and have to get rid of at <40K because they start falling apart.

Great, but what’s that got to do with thems injiuns and the 3 pwice quotations you posted today, you loser?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:47 pm

Virgin and partner Qatar Airways offer help for Aussie evacuation

Ayesha de Kretser

Virgin Australia has told staff it has offered to help get Australian citizens out of Israel if they want to leave, after the transport minister sought help from airlines and Qantas pledged to add two flights starting on Friday.

Transport Minister Catherine King spoke to the chief executives of Virgin and Qantas about contingency plans to bring Australians out of the conflict zone, after the attack by Hamas militants on Israel at the weekend and rising violence since.

Virgin head of government relations Christian Bennett confirmed in an internal memo posted to a staff channel that Ms King had telephoned chief executive Jayne Hrdlicka with the request on Wednesday.

“With lightning speed support from both [operations] and our partner in the region, Qatar Airways, by the end of yesterday we were able to offer two options to the government, subject to regulatory approvals,” Mr Bennett wrote in the memo, which has been seen by The Australian Financial Review.

The first of those options involves a Virgin-branded Boeing 737 aircraft that had been undergoing servicing in Abu Dhabi and could rescue Australians from Israeli-neighbour Jordan’s capital, Amman. A land border with Jordan remains open, but it is unclear how many Australians have already or would be able to evacuate via Amman.

Virgin strategic partner Qatar Airways said it would also pitch in, as it did during the fall of Kabul to the Taliban in 2021, with an “open offer” of planes and “working with Virgin” to look at all options, including flying to Tel Aviv.

“We’ll continue to engage with Canberra as to whether there is a wish to activate either option,” he said.

Airlines add flights

A Virgin Australia spokeswoman confirmed the content of the post but declined to comment further.

Qantas responded quickly on Wednesday with the announcement of two Boeing 787 Dreamliner flights to Tel Aviv – one on Friday and another on Sunday. But Virgin does not fly long-haul international routes with bigger aircraft, relying instead on partners such as Qatar Airways and United Airlines for flights into the Middle East, Europe and the United States.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese on Wednesday welcomed Qantas’ announcement that it would run two flights.

Foreign Minister Penny Wong said on Thursday that the government was close to finalising a third flight out of Tel Aviv, believed to be a charter service.

“I can indicate to Australians, either in Israel or with our family and friends in Israel, we are seeking to arrange a further flight,” Ms Wong told reporters adding details would be clearer in the next 24 hours.

It is understood that Virgin is still in talks with the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade over the exact shape of its assistance, as well as how Qatar could logically support the evacuation given it does not have the right to land in Israel.

The prime minister has come under fire for the government’s blocking of Qatar Airways’ request to add a direct daily flight into Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane.

Ms Hrdlicka told a Senate inquiry she had been given the impression that the request would be agreed, until Mr Albanese attended a gala dinner for Qantas at its Mascot headquarters in late March.

At the event, Mr Albanese gave a speech in which he recalled his close relationship with Qantas during his time as the minister responsible for aviation.

“And every day in that job, I knew if there was a crisis, anywhere in the world, whether it was a natural disaster or a violent uprising, I knew I could pick up the phone and Qantas would swing into action, getting Australians to safety,” he said.

During the pandemic, Qatar Airways maintained regular services into Australia despite passenger restrictions that made it commercially unattractive for most global carriers to continue flying. It was subsidised for freight to help keep exports moving for Australian producers, helping it to break even.

Vow to fix customer service

At the same time, the government rented Qantas’ aircraft to run repatriation flights.

During COVID-19, Qantas charged Australians airfares on flights underwritten by the government.

At the time of Mr Albanese’s speech in March, Qantas was the country’s most complained-about company to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission because of its high airfares and poor service.

New Qantas chief executive Vanessa Hudson has vowed to repair strained customer relations as the airline comes under heavy scrutiny from the ACCC. Her move to offer the two flights to stranded passengers free of charge is a direct departure from her predecessor Alan Joyce’s strategy during COVID-19.

It is unclear whether Qatar Airways or Virgin would, with Australian government backing, be able to fly into Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion International Airport.

The United Arab Emirates’ two airlines, Etihad and Qantas’ partner Emirates, are among the handful of passenger carriers – apart from Israel’s El Al and other smaller local airlines – that had not ceased flights into Ben Gurion by Thursday.

China’s Hainan Airlines, Ethiopian Airlines, Air Seychelles and Romanian, Moldovan, Georgian, Russian, Cypriot, Greek and a French charter airline were all listed as still scheduled to fly.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 10:49 pm

Anyone who purchased Woolworth’s Plus Petrol will know exactly why chasing the cheapest price may not be the smartest idea.

I noticed years ago that I wouldn’t get as many kilometres per tank if refilling at some cheaper petrol stations. In most cases it really is that you get what you pay for.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:50 pm

Just as well Head Prefect never posts any prices or comparisons, ever.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:51 pm

How does that rate when compared to, say, posting comments on the trouserwear of gentlemen in coffee shops, or posting comments on the hairstyle, demeanour & manner of dress of a primary school kid on the street?

Much less than someone fraudulently claiming he’s a pub owner and also claiming he’s labor royalty when in fact he’s a houso who’s all hat and no cattle. (Cowboy lingo you’d understand).

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:51 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 12, 2023 10:50 PM

Just as well Head Prefect never posts any prices or comparisons, ever.

Citations required

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 10:52 pm

rosie
Oct 12, 2023 9:29 PM

It’s like paying $5 a kilo for Pontiac potatoes rather than $2.50 for generic washed ones, so you can save a $1 on cooking them in bulk and freezing them.

There’s more to potatoes than cooking them rosie. I asked advice because my system wasn’t delivering the required product.
The process will remain the same, just the type of potato will change.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 10:53 pm

There’s more to potatoes than cooking them rosie. I asked advice because my system wasn’t delivering the required product.
The process will remain the same, just the type of potato will change.

Go ask them injiuns.

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2023 10:54 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:54 pm

Don’t be surprised if ethnic communities vote No

If polls are correct about the triumph of the No vote, expect large numbers of multicultural voters to be part of the revolt against establishment bodies.

Tanveer Ahmed – Columnist

In the final race to win over votes in the upcoming Voice referendum, ethnic communities will be a critical demographic.

This is especially true given Australia’s status as the most multicultural country in the world, as defined by the proportion of people born overseas.

Many will vote No. They will do so not out of ignorance or prejudice, but because they abhor racial essentialism – the idea that race immutably determines one’s position in society.

While ethnic or religious groups are not a homogenous group, there are some key characteristics that will lend themselves to more tailored campaigning.

Ethnic communities tend to have higher rates of informal voting. In the last Federal election the seat of Fowler, with large Chinese and Vietnamese communities, had a rate of 10.5 per cent voting informally.

There have already been shots fired in this realm much earlier in the debate.

Key No campaigner Nyunggai Warren Mundine suggested ethnic communities should also have their own clause in the Constitution, a proposition widely criticised and shot down.

While never realistic, the assertion did highlight the challenges of assigning group rights in a document so fundamentally about the rights of individual citizens in relation to the State.

Meanwhile, virtually every notable multicultural representative group has since come out in support of the Voice.

Take this comment by the chief executive of the Federation of Ethnic Communities Council, the umbrella for a host of disparate of multicultural groups.

“Migrant and refugee communities are natural allies with First Nations communities,” said FECCA chief executive Mohammad Al-Khafaji, adding there was “resounding support” for the Uluru Statement from the Heart and the Voice to parliament.

On one level, this is not a surprise given ethnic groups have a vested interest in retaining group rights. Racial discrimination and vilification laws are an example.

But in the pre-pandemic terrorism-dominated era of the 20th century, there are trends across the Western world that are at odds with the Voice referendum.

Whether the Voice is about race or indigeneity, as Noel Pearson has attempted to frame things in response to criticism about dividing Australians by race, there is a weakness of collective identity in Western societies such as Australia.

Identity politics and narratives around the victimhood of marginalised groups seek to fill this gap.

In justifying support for the Yes campaign among ethnic communities, a regular point is the view that there is a mutual experience with experienced racism and past colonial subjugation.

By this measure, a Yes vote has overlaps with the call for reparations by Indian leaders for colonisation, a willingness to acknowledge the cruelties of the past and how they continue to shape the future.

In response there has been a more muscular display of national citizenship across the Western world.

There are more pronounced citizenship ceremonies, stronger language requirements and, in parts of Europe, the suppression of outward display of religious symbols.

There are also wider attempts to construct post-ethnic forms of national identity, citizenship and belonging.

The elevation of group rights for indigenous groups would be at odds with this trend.

Although there are many people both ethnic and otherwise who are sympathetic to the past subjugation of Aborigines, a key arena that Yes advocates underestimate is the extent that many successful ethnic communities abhor racial essentialism.

This is especially true about our biggest non-white communities derived from South Asia and China who are firmly focused on education and social mobility buttressed by stable, two-parent families rooted in a degree of tradition.

In his book Beyond Grievance: What the Left Gets Wrong About Ethnic Groups, Rakib Ehsan writes:

“Activists are responsible for framing ‘disadvantage’ and ‘privilege’ through the simplistic prism of race, vilifying traditional institutions such as the family and marriage.

Labour is keen to discuss ‘structural inequalities’ that underpin the very mixed picture of prosperity, not the ‘race-conscious education’ that views the promotion of self-discipline and routine as reactionary.”

This is why comments from Jacinta Price about alcoholism, abuse and squalor cut through, because they highlight how many of the problems in Aboriginal communities have their roots in culture, family breakdown and entrenched decadence.

These are problems no amount of State provision, either monetary or legal, can heal.

If polls are correct and suggest the triumph of the No vote, the result will be akin to a peaceful revolution given establishment bodies in business, media and the professions are in lock step with the Yes campaign.

Expect large numbers of people from ethnic communities to be part of this revolt, a protest against the advocacy groups that attempt to co-opt ethnic communities for their own ends.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 12, 2023 10:54 pm

Oh, okay then. It doesn’t appear you’re using that much petrewl,

That vehicle wouldn’t use much petrol at all. A common feature of diesel vehicles.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 10:54 pm

“Best I can offer is photo of me in my Platoon in the Army before going to showers, with towel over shoulder and with bare chest

Niece said “Whose that Hunk there” – was stunned when she found our was me – Ageing is a Bummer

Old Ozzie,
hahaha, do you remember the famous muscle man Paul Graham? When I was sixteen, I did a few shopping centre demos with him on how “you too can have a body like this”, if you go to his gym/buy his videos. At sixteen, nature gives you the great bod, not hard work! Yes, Ageing is a Bummer! But I regret nothing…………. 😀

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 10:55 pm

Even though Italian, no hairy chest – cleanskin – and definitley no gold chains or Moustaches

My husband also didn’t have a moustache or a gold chain but he had a sense of style and beautiful wavey long hair, just like pop stars of the 70s. Our older daughter still treasures a photo of herself with dad when he had long hair.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 10:57 pm

JC

Oct 12, 2023 9:30 PM
It’s like paying $5 a kilo for Pontiac potatoes rather than $2.50 for generic washed ones, so you can save a $1 on cooking them in bulk and freezing them.
It’s yams not potatoes. A mass cooked of frozen yams. Lord Almighty.

It’s as pissed as a newt – will probably start giggling like a bloody little girl in a minute.
I was about to say “May the Saints preserve us”, but it’d probably think I was talking about jams not yams.

Arky
October 12, 2023 10:57 pm

Crossie
Oct 12, 2023 10:49 PM

I noticed years ago that I wouldn’t get as many kilometres per tank if refilling at some cheaper petrol stations

..
Modern petrol seems to suffer from being hydroscopic. If you purchase the cheap stuff and leave it sitting too long it will bugger your entire fuel system from tank to injectors.
Put the good stuff in and use an additive if you plan on leaving a vehicle sitting unused for a period of time.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 11:01 pm

Matrix,
re the Rizzoli, not fair, they’re out of stock. 🙁

Megan
Megan
October 12, 2023 11:02 pm

Is that the one where the bloke in the Right seat had the stick on his right side and despite the stall warning blaring in his ear, refused to put the nose down, while the Left side pilot was trying to put the nose down, fighting the Right seater, who wouldn’t let him

Correct. And yes, the pilot tubes icing over was the first domino to fall.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 11:02 pm

David Frum – Speechwriter

The biggest jerk in jerk town.

Robert Sewell
October 12, 2023 11:02 pm

Carpe, jugulum

An Anchovette sandwich would be nice, i loved that stuff as a kid.

About 40 years ago they made a pepper steak spread.
Then one day they stopped making it.
I would have cried had I not been busy buying every tiny jar of it I could find.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 11:03 pm

Crossie
Oct 12, 2023 10:49 PM

Anyone who purchased Woolworth’s Plus Petrol will know exactly why chasing the cheapest price may not be the smartest idea.</em>

I noticed years ago that I wouldn’t get as many kilometres per tank if refilling at some cheaper petrol stations. In most cases it really is that you get what you pay for.

Crossie,

I go for BP or Shell 98 – have been using high octane in my 1994 Toyota Series 80 Landcrusier 4.5; EFI Petrol since I encountered Pinging on 91 initially- Moving to 98 solved that problem

Have used 98 on Series 80 & both Honda Jazz – 2004 & 2006 as has Son-in-law (Son fueled his Ferrari 458 on Shell 100 & his Toyota Yaris GR Rallye on Q8 100 in Italy)- extra cost over the year irrelevant – use Mobil One Fully Syntheric Oil on all cars & in case of Honda Jazz as low mileage, change CVT Auto Fluid every 10,000 Km vs Honda 80K

Megan
Megan
October 12, 2023 11:05 pm

Pitot…dumb autocorrelation. …I think I’ll leave that corrected clanger right there.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 11:05 pm

Ozzie

Where does he buy Shell 100?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 11:06 pm

Arky
Oct 12, 2023 10:57 PM

Crossie
Oct 12, 2023 10:49 PM

I noticed years ago that I wouldn’t get as many kilometres per tank if refilling at some cheaper petrol stations

..
Modern petrol seems to suffer from being hydroscopic. If you purchase the cheap stuff and leave it sitting too long it will bugger your entire fuel system from tank to injectors.

Put the good stuff in and use an additive if you plan on leaving a vehicle sitting unused for a period of time.

As I don’t do many Kilometres per year on Series 80 4.5l EFI Petrol, add Fuel Doctor to tank

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