Open Thread – Weekend 14 Oct 2023


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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 10:14 am

Quadrant magazine – “This Time, There Will Be No Negotiations.”

Hamas is history, even though it’s still kicking. As Ikram Nur, from the Azeri news site Haqqin.az, wittily noted: “Hamas today found itself in a situation of a man who has successfully overwhelmed Mike Tyson by an unexpected blow. If this man can run fast and the door is fortuitously open – he is alright. However, if he is locked up with Mike Tyson in the same room and there’s nowhere to run – commiserations are in order.”

The degree of Israeli fury and anger is impossible to overestimate. For the first time since the Yom Kippur War, an Alef40 order has been given. This means that the Israeli military must be guided by military considerations only, without asking the political leadership for permission.

After declaring war on Hamas, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu told Gaza inhabitants “Leave while you can, because we will act everywhere with full might”. He also promised: “We will kill everyone who harms Israeli hostages”, and declared that Hamas would pay an unprecedented price, including the destruction of anything connected with Hamas until its complete annihilation.

In other words, Bibi follows an old Biblical rule: “An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”. Before critics jump up and down, telling me how unforgivably barbaric this rule is – let me say that this rule is precisely the opposite of being barbaric and simply means that the punishment must fit the crime. In other words – you cannot demand a perpetrator’s eye if you have lost a tooth as a result of his actions. In Hamas’s case it means complete extirpation. My guess – the Jewish state will deliver on this promise – fast and harsh.

Tom
Tom
October 14, 2023 10:14 am

I wonder how much this cost? Possibly the worst ad in Australian history.

Excruciating, Black Ball @ 9.57am — a smartarse Yes advertisement pretending to be a No advertisement that succeeds only in demonstrating what vacuous airheads young white leftwing women are.

PS: that’s three minutes I’ll never get back.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 10:15 am

His minders don’t dare show them to him.

He hasn’t looked at them. Why would he?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 14, 2023 10:15 am

The dealer’s missus isn’t even bothering to get the sharpener out.

She knows he’s cooked

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 14, 2023 10:15 am

The rate of the renewables build-out needs to be much higher for Australia to reach its 82 per cent renewables target for 2030, analysts say.

A ghostly echo of Global Times editorial pieces, where ‘analysts’ and ‘experts’ and ‘netizens’ say things that confirm support Xi Thought and the farqups that follow.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 10:17 am

Disposable pencils, boxes of disposable pencils, what a joke.

Yes voters afraid of catching a terrible disease from wicked No voters?

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 14, 2023 10:17 am

Do the printed books exclude the names of those who voted early?

Considering they go for printing virtually on the day the rolls close, no.

Double voting gets picked up when the rolls are reconciled.

caveman
caveman
October 14, 2023 10:18 am

When the “No” vote gets up , we hold out an olive branch to the”Yes” people and announce the new date for Australia Day ,October 14th.

shatterzzz
October 14, 2023 10:20 am

Its easy to say we need better staff but none of us want to pay for it.

Life wasn’t mean’t to be easy! .. A “Geordie” accent in an ethnic environment …
not a great pairing .. LOL!

Indolent
Indolent
October 14, 2023 10:21 am
Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 10:21 am

like the unpoetic Constitution

Phatty is such a stinking, putrid metabolically challenged philistine.

The constitution is very well written despite not being “poetic”. The fact is much of it was written by Andrew Inglis Clark and other parts (like a 61) were cribbed straight from the US constitution, largely written by James Madison.

You want art, Phatty? There’s plenty of that!

The High Court, now there’s some superannuated interpretative dance troupe. Some of the decisions read like Finnegan’s Wake. The border closure case, well that was like shooting a bow and arrow upside down with your feet. Incredible flexibility when desired.

P
P
October 14, 2023 10:21 am

ISRAELI STRATEGY AND PALESTINIAN DESPAIR
by Cole S. Aronson
10 . 13 . 23

Depriving Palestinians of their instruments of terror is the only way to persuade them that the century-old goal of driving Jews out of Israel is impossible.

Accurate scholarship can unearth whatever mishaps allowed armed men to breach the Gaza border fence, to conquer army bases and kibbutzim, to kill and rape attendees at a holiday music festival, to behead infants in front of their parents, to incinerate homes with their residents inside, and to take several dozen hostages.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 10:22 am

When the “No” vote gets up , we hold out an olive branch to the”Yes” people and …

beat them with it.

mem
mem
October 14, 2023 10:22 am

Received an invitation for a conference on Dec 8,

CEDA and CSIRO’s National Artificial Intelligence Centre are partnering to present a flagship Summit, convening leading voices on how AI can be leveraged in a positive and inclusive way to transform industries and advance the Australian economy. Focused on leadership, the Summit will outline how leaders can position their organisations, and Australia more broadly to enable the take up of responsible AI at scale.
Join us to hear from a compelling line-up of Australian and international thought leaders. The Summit will inform, empower and connect business executives, board members, government officials, entrepreneurs, investors, and leaders looking to advance their knowledge of the global AI landscape.

Here we go. More government control from the so-called thought leaders. Amongst the speakers, Sam Nickless, Chief Executive Officer and Partner, Gilbert + Tobin. Didn’t someone just mention that Albo was spruiking at above law firm yesterday? And as expected there is the usual line-up of seakers from UN, Human Relations Commission etc. It is a closed circle we live in and these guys seem hell bent on determining our future.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 10:23 am

Just voted and my booth, a primary school, had the old telephone book list of names. One lady in the queue in front of me, a new Australian, said why all this shit, government do what they want anyway. I had to laugh.

An interesting observation, the school hall had their sport houses flags hung up from the ceiling. It was good to see they were actually named after sportspeople like Newcombe, Gasnier, Jackson.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 14, 2023 10:24 am

Hopefully enough Australians have worked out that the nation he has in mind is purgatory for everyone except the chosen ones.

Lebanon is out future otherwise.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 10:24 am

United Nations human rights chiefs

Where were they during the lockdowns and clot shot mandates.
Screw the UN I say.

Rabz
October 14, 2023 10:24 am

The soldiers also rescued around 250 hostages alive

Magnificent work, IDF.

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 10:25 am

feelthebern

Oct 14, 2023 6:42 AM
Considering the AEC electronically mark you off, it’s going to be hard to vote multiple times in person.
Postal votes are different obviously.
Can other Cats confirm its laptop not the phone book when voting ?
Surely it would be the same everywhere, not laptops in Wentworth & the phone book in Chifley.

Feely, I voted this morning and it was through the ‘phone book’. Needed ID – Drivers licence.
No “No” volunteers have turned up. I left at 0815 – there were no how to vote cards, so I said ‘Bugger it.” and went home.

Just went back to see if they’d turned up.
Nup.
Back home again.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 10:26 am

The High Court, now there’s some superannuated interpretative dance troupe. Some of the decisions read like Finnegan’s Wake.

Chuckle.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 10:26 am

Lebanon is out future otherwise.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 10:30 am

Mahogany everything and houses shaped like the Titanic?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 10:30 am

Black Ball

Oct 14, 2023 9:05 AM

Vikki Campion:

Hell is a home without water.

What is Vikki’s view on using AI to photo-shop pictures and videos?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 14, 2023 10:30 am

Fair queue at Edge O’ Town Primary.
Elbow’s political destiny density indelible in black Bic.

C.L.
C.L.
October 14, 2023 10:37 am

Now just heard a reporterette on tv saying that Albo has a speech at the ready regardless of which way the vote goes.

Reminds me of the story of the Melbourne newspaper that had two headlines prepped in 1932 for the wired result of Phar Lap’s run in the Agua Caliente Handicap – his last race.

1. Australian wonder horse beats the world
2. New Zealand champion fails in Mexico

shatterzzz
October 14, 2023 10:38 am

No more Utube vids for me, apparently , now getting a msg when clicking the link(s) saying, “videos blocked cos your using an ad-blocker” .. BRAVE is a no ads browser so bye, bye Utube …….!

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 14, 2023 10:38 am

An interesting observation, the school hall had their sport houses flags hung up from the ceiling. It was good to see they were actually named after sportspeople like Newcombe, Gasnier, Jackson.

When I was in high school in the 80s our four houses were Campbell, Evans, Farrer and Hume. These have now been changed to Aboriginal names.

cohenite
October 14, 2023 10:44 am

The High Court, now there’s some superannuated interpretative dance troupe. Some of the decisions read like Finnegan’s Wake

More like Fifty Shades of Grey.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2023 10:45 am

Latest predictions:

A Referendum Result competition

No will win…. (in order of No winning magnitude)

Bar Beach Swimmer: No 72%, 28% yes
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

DrBeauGan: No 71%, Yes 29%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Barking Toad: No 70%, Yes 30%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Thefrollickingmole: No 70%, Yes: 30%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

John Brumble: No: 70%, Yes: 30%,
States: “only one Yes state”

GreyRanga
No: 69%, Yes 31%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Speedbox: No: 67.5%, Yes: 32.5%.
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: Qld, WA, NSW, SA, Tas

Lysander: No 67%, Yes 33%
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Alamak!: No 66%, Yes 33%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas
States for No: Qld, WA, NSW, SA

Top Ender: No 65%, Yes 35%.
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Megan: No: 64%, Yes: 32%
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: Qld, NSW, SA, WA, Tas

Mizaris: No 63.5%, Yes 36.5%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Salvatore, Iron Publican: No 61%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Delta A: No 60%, Yes 40%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas.
States for No: Qld, NSW, SA, WA

Robert Sewell: No 60%, Yes 40%
Yes states: Victoria, NSW
No states: Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Rugbyskier: No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Rosie: No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: Vic, SA
States for No: WA, Qld, Tas, NSW

Sancho Panzer
No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Razey: No: 58%, No 42%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA, Vic

Rabz No: 58%, Yes 42%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas, SA
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld

Bruce in WA: No: 58, Yes 42
States for Yes: Victoria; Tas
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA

Local oaf: No 58%, Yes 42%
States for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA

Beertruk: No 57%, Yes 43 %
All states: No

JC: No 56; yes 44
States for Yes:
States for No:

Cohenite: No: 55%, Yes: 45%
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: all the others

Yes will win….(in order of Yes winning magnitude)

Alwaysright: Yes: 51%, No: 49%
States for Yes: Vic, NSW, Tas, Qld
States for No: WA, SA

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 10:49 am

Daily Mail.

Disgusting moment cops allow huge group of Nazis to march through Melbourne’s Flinders St Station doing banned Hitler salutes before taking over a train and asking passengers if they are Jewish – as police are forced to protect non-white riders

Far-right protestors seen at Flinders St Station
Three Hitler salutes and unveiled racist banner
Melbourne passengers prevented from boarding train

Barry
Barry
October 14, 2023 10:49 am

No olive branches.

Next referendum is to be enshrining a prohibition on “Welcome to Country” into the constitution.

That one would get up 80/20.

——————————
Vote NO, you magnificent bastards!

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 10:49 am

Dot: No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: Mainland
States for No: TAS

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 10:50 am

I made a mistake on my ballot paper.

Dot: No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: TAS
States for No: Mainland

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
October 14, 2023 10:51 am

Voted in Ferntree Gully, outer East of Melburnistan. ‘Phone book’ to check you off and had to help the lady find my name. It starts with Ma but she was looking under Mc. Top people.
YES signs were qwerty and trans, no Alboriginal ones. A couple of No signs, one obviously Liberal. Freedom snags available on exit. I used a pen to write……….NO.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 10:52 am

I wonder if Israel is looking at creating a DMZ wasteland strip along the northern border inside Gaza.
No more guest jobs in Israel.
Shoot on sight inside the zone.

damon
damon
October 14, 2023 10:56 am

“Just like the Australian ISIS/Hamas savages publicly baying for Jewish blood”

Leads one to wonder exactly what sort of people we are importing in the ‘desperate rush’ to populate this country.

Rabz
October 14, 2023 10:57 am

Have to head out at some point and cast my vote in this exercise in political stupidity and treasonous spite. Then back home to resume my glorious heroic struggle against that bloody frangipani.

Any advice Cats – I’m off to a gathering this evening to farewell my best mate’s Brazilian girlfriend who’s heading back home. Given I’ll be among collectivists and the screeech is going down like the Hindenburg, who do I avoid going the gloat, especially as I will be “with champagne”?

Rabz
October 14, 2023 11:00 am

how, not who …

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 14, 2023 11:00 am

Just about to go out to do my democratic duty.

I must say there will be relief chez Faustus, but no great celebration if/when No gets up. Hopefully we’ve avoided a huge mistake today; but we’ve certainly not won any sort of glittering prize.

The Canbra Trot and all who sailed with him have created a cesspit and led Australia into it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 11:00 am

No more Utube vids for me, apparently

Shatterzzz – I just tried a YT vid and no probs with Brave. I have the adblock engaged, since YT doesn’t like righties. I let down the shield for friendlies.

You can change settings to allow ads if you click the shield icon on the RHS of the url bar.

Rabz
October 14, 2023 11:02 am

Albansleazey’s latest: “The No campaign hasn’t had any legitimate arguments”.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 11:03 am

Depriving Palestinians of their instruments of terror is the only way to persuade them that the century-old goal of driving Jews out of Israel is impossible.

It won’t work. There will always be some actors ready to use Palli anger and hate and get them weapons. This is generational hatred and loathing. It is deep , inbred and cannot be soothed. It is a biblical hatred, fed to Palli’s like the air they breathe 24/7/365. It’s so bad, no other Arab nation will take more of them in.

For want of a better solution, buy them off. So much money sloshed around the world. Spend $100 billion and build them a new self sufficient state in Gaza. Because what they want above all is “their land back”. The only solution then is an acceptable land swap. Until something approaching that kind of deal, little will change. An intractable situation.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 11:05 am

Crossie
Oct 14, 2023 10:23 AM

An interesting observation, the school hall had their sport houses flags hung up from the ceiling. It was good to see they were actually named after sportspeople like Newcombe, Gasnier, Jackson.

Blacky Tech house names, back in the day:
– Red Devils
– Green Hornets
-Gold Scorpions
…and (mine)…
-Blue Swallows

Always felt that Swallows lacked the intent of the others, and that’s how it played out in my years there. 🙂

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 14, 2023 11:05 am

I hate to poop the party but even if all states vote No they are planning to deliver every wish the Yes could hope for.
You saw the extent of powers vested in lunatic sate ministers during covid, nothing has changed would restrain a repeat now.
Vic Minister, Lily d’ ambrosio has vowed at a big energy conference in Sydney to compulsory acquire over four hundred kilometres of farmers land in Victoria for a totally unnecessary transmission line.
The celebration hangover is coming.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 11:07 am

I’m with dotty;

Makka No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: TAS
States for No: Mainland

Bluey
Bluey
October 14, 2023 11:08 am

Rabz
Oct 14, 2023 10:57 AM
Have to head out at some point and cast my vote in this exercise in political stupidity and treasonous spite. Then back home to resume my glorious heroic struggle against that bloody frangipani.

Any advice Cats – I’m off to a gathering this evening to farewell my best mate’s Brazilian girlfriend who’s heading back home. Given I’ll be among collectivists and the screeech is going down like the Hindenburg, who do I avoid going the gloat, especially as I will be “with champagne”?

I say keep the peace unless it’s brought up. If it’s brought up gloat away. They wouldn’t have the grace to avoid gloating full stop.
Proviso is I’m often the hand grenade in a social scene like that when I hear stupidity.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 11:08 am

Australian cricketers offered access to counselling should the Indigenous Voice to Parliament get voted down

By daniel cherny
Staff writer
@danielcherny
Code Sports
7:30AM October 14, 2023
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Australian cricketers have been told they have access to counselling services to deal with any disappointment they may feel should the Indigenous Voice to Parliament get voted down.

Both Cricket Australia’s board and the Australian Cricketers’ Association have publicly supported the Voice, whose enactment hinges on Saturday’s referendum.

But with opinion polls painting a bleak picture for the Yes vote, it’s understood the ACA on Friday wrote to past and present players to remind them that they had access to counselling in the event the proposed changes failed to be endorsed by the Australian public.
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Players were also encouraged to make an informed vote and to respect that their fellow cricketers were entitled to make their own decisions.

Australia’s men’s team voted last week at the Consulate-General office in Chennai ahead of the side’s World Cup opener in India.

Superstar all-rounder Ash Gardner, a Muruwari woman, last month urged the public to educate itself on the matter ahead of the vote. She had earlier in the year criticised a decision to schedule Australian team matches on Australia Day.

Why do the words “Pack of Wimps” suggest themselves?

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 11:09 am

Gloat like you won the superbowl whilst on your back shagging Brady’s and Mahomes’ missuses.

Rabz
October 14, 2023 11:10 am

Thanks Bluey – my first suggestion to the host will be to leave the telescreen off.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 11:11 am

Well, I just did a Kamahl.

There was 1 x No volunteer exuding a quiet confidence, and 3 x desperate looking Yes spruikers. The turn out does not appear and less than election time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 11:12 am

Albansleazey’s latest: “The No campaign hasn’t had any legitimate arguments”.

I wonder if he can legitimately think that? Plenty of spare time coming up to consider it.

Rabz
October 14, 2023 11:12 am

Why do the words “Pack of Wimps” suggest themselves

Could anyone imagine Chapelli, Lillee, Marsh, Dougie et al, engaging in such staggeringly soft stupidity?

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 11:13 am

Offer to set up one of your playlists on the screen, Rabz. Way more conducive to a convivial atmosphere.

bons
bons
October 14, 2023 11:14 am

Excuse my fury, but WTF has the Voice got to do with a taxpayer funded cricket club!

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 11:15 am

Australian cricketers offered access to counselling should the Indigenous Voice to Parliament get voted down

Hopefully it includes some catching practice in there somewhere.

Frank
Frank
October 14, 2023 11:15 am

… where ‘analysts’ and ‘experts’ and ‘netizens’ say things …

Or bring out the big guns: independent experts.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 11:16 am

Offer to set up one of your playlists on the screen, Rabz. Way more conducive to a convivial atmosphere.

Check and drop any Midnight Oils.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 11:16 am

Excuse my fury, but WTF has the Voice got to do with a taxpayer-funded cricket club!

Have you been to Noosa?

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 11:17 am

Australian cricketers offered access to counselling

I gave up on this pack of precious soft c*cks when we were subjected to the Captain of our First XI blubbering like a baby on his return from being busted in SA. It’s only gone downhill from there.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 11:17 am

Stand off and nuke them from orbit.
Its the only way to be sure.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 11:18 am

Crush your enemies, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 11:18 am

Albansleazey’s latest: “The No campaign hasn’t had any legitimate arguments”.

“Governments do better when we listen.”

Right up there with “We’re all in this together.”

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 11:19 am

Maybe it was the laptops for early voting only.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 11:19 am

But moving on from the Australian Cricket team…

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2023 11:19 am

A group of masked men and woman throwing banned Nazi salutes and carrying a banner reading ‘Expose Jewish Power’ have been captured on video terrifying other passengers on a Melbourne train.

Daily Mail Australia spotted the group staging a protest on the steps of the city’s iconic Flinders Street Station early on Saturday morning behind a banner which read ‘Expose Jewish Power’.

Daily Mail

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 11:20 am

Maybe it was the laptops for early voting only.

Phone book, where I voted early in Perth…

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 11:22 am

Right up there with “We’re all in this together.”

And as frightening as “We’re here to help.”

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 11:22 am

Indolent

Oct 14, 2023 10:21 AM
People are waking up: the FA, police and BBC have shamed Britain

We will have to go to war with Islam one day – the threat they pose to every other peoples on the planet is existential.
Why are our Political Class waiting for them to get the bomb?

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 11:23 am

Crush your enemies, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.

I really enjoy the latter.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 11:24 am

I’ve been critical of Everest fields in previous years.
This year looks to be the best as far as quality & depth goes.

But the best race of the day is the Caulfield Guineas.
Nothing like following horses through a campaign & seeing them meet in an almost match race like this.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 11:24 am

Just walked to the local shop to buy The Oz (I still like to buy the weekend paper).

Walked past a polling booth here in Wentworth, and had a young woman try and approach me with a YES pamphlet.

I gave her the middle finger and told her not to come near me. She was quite taken aback. Good, she can F*CK OFF.

It these lowlifes who’ve divided this country, and I will treat them with the absolute contempt they deserve.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 11:24 am

The AEC asking if I voted before along with name and address initialed my ballot slip. Is this normal as I forget?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 11:24 am

hone book, where I voted early in Perth…

Hmm…odd.
Wonder why the difference.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 11:25 am

Wife drove me down to St Kieran’s Manly Vale (where she had had Sunday Priest exhorting YES) – easier to park in school yard with short walk to hall vs usual Balgowlah Boys High with lots step and not good parking, or Seaforth Primary Public no parking

One young lady with no indication NO vote handed me NO Vote handout – Sausage Sizzle with YES platered all over it, actaully did not noticed YES Pamphlet People – possinly on main road entrance but the Ladies on the YES Sausage Table liked my Halloween Hawaiian Shirt

No queue and after NO Vote, as walking out mid 40s guy said well that was a Waste of Money, Voted NO & impressed and agreed with Jacinta Price

Gave my NO Vote pamphlet back to NO young Lady

Then I drove (Wife does not like driving Saturday Traffic) to collect Grandson year 6 plus one of his class mates from Cricket at Anderson Park North Sydney vs Baker – saw him get a 6 and was not out

Dropped Clasmate off at Allambie Heights then home to Coffee

Grandparents Saturday Morning Sport Transport – Youngest Daughter & Son-in-Law at 2 other separate Saturday Morning Cricket Matches

Have KFC Email Special lined up, for this afternoon

Nothing beats the Original. Steal 10 pieces of mouth-watering Original Recipe and 2 regular thick-cut chips for just $15. Where do I sign

And a Fine Red Penfolds Bin 407 2000 Cabernet Sauvignon to start 1 hour after Voice Polls close

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 11:26 am

The AEC asking if I voted before along with name and address initialed my ballot slip. Is this normal as I forget?

Yep

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 11:26 am

I hate to poop the party but even if all states vote No they are planning to deliver every wish the Yes could hope for.

Yeah, we know. At least the elites will realize their project isn’t popular though.

Maybe they’ll read up on the French Revolution. There’s a limit to what people will tolerate.

(That is rapidly being reached in the climate space, btw, especially car policy.)

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 11:26 am

Why are our Political Class waiting for them to get the bomb?

Gazillions of million$$$ were made, careers and huge legacies built, huge corporations, think tanks, Universities flourished during the Cold War. Something has to substitute all that expenditure. The Political Class in the west are no less corrupt than elsewhere. Just a different system and different actors.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 11:27 am

Why are our Political Class waiting for them to get the bomb?

They are not waiting, our political class, or rather the American political class, want to give it to them now.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 11:27 am

The AEC asking if I voted before along

Yes JC, that’s standard.
Clearly you needed a cigarillo & a short black to liven up the senses.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 11:27 am

Superstar all-rounder Ash Gardner, a Muruwari woman…

Had to look her up…she was born in Bankstown.

And I dare say it’s well over 100 years since the Muruwari held initiation rites.

So, no, she’s not a “Muruwari woman.”

mem
mem
October 14, 2023 11:28 am

Given I’ll be among collectivists and the screeech is going down like the Hindenburg, who do I avoid going the gloat, especially as I will be “with champagne”?

With glass in hand I’d propose a toast to Luigi, congratulating him effusively on doing the right thing by Australians. (Tongue in cheek of course). Being lefties it will take them several minutes to work out your real meaning (if indeed they do) which will give you adequate time to escape.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 11:28 am

We will have to go to war with Islam one day – the threat they pose to every other peoples on the planet is existential.

Like we haven’t been to war with Islamic countries since Gulf War 1.

I thought you said you were giving a rest with all the stupid shit you post.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 11:28 am

Clearly you needed a cigarillo & a short black to liven up the senses.

We all do sometimes kid. You get any soda you choose.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 11:29 am

(That is rapidly being reached in the climate space, btw, especially car policy.)
Keep an eye on the UK. They tend to go along with the flow then BAM Brexit.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 11:29 am

And I dare say it’s well over 100 years since the Muruwari held initiation rites.

That’s a good point.
It’s Stolen Valour to say you are a proud such & such man or woman without being initiated.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 11:30 am

Yes JC, that’s standard.
Clearly you needed a cigarillo & a short black to liven up the senses.

I haven’t voted for long time. I think the last one was Morrison. Couldn’t recall.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 11:32 am

So, no, she’s not a “Muruwari woman.”

She may, however, be the whinger/attention seeker who wouldn’t play on Australia Day.

For the Australian women’s cricket team.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 11:32 am

And a Fine Red Penfolds Bin 407 2000 Cabernet Sauvignon to start 1 hour after Voice Polls close

Mineral water for me.
I don’t drink on consecutive days.
After yesterday, I don’t think I’ll drink for the rest of the month.

Muddy
Muddy
October 14, 2023 11:33 am

Australian cricketers offered access to counselling should the Indigenous Voice to Parliament get voted down

I pondered a couple of months ago that a new category of PTSD might be created if the referendum went down (which I was not confident of at the time). I would not be surprised if certain private businesses, and perhaps the public service in several states, were to offer indig staff special (fully paid) ‘trauma leave.’ (Probably just a day or two; enough to get publicity, but not so much as to inhibit normal operations).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 11:33 am

‘Expose Jewish Power’

So the Grampian Garage Nazis are on the same side as the Left, supporting Hamas? Oh, that’s rather revealing, if I do say so myself.

bons
bons
October 14, 2023 11:33 am

How is the booth looking this morning.
Frankly I don’t know. The Yes vibe is obvious, passive agressive, and occasionally agressive.
There is no No vibe.
Surprising number of people either challenging, or asking what is this all about or, surprisingly “what do you think”.
The Yesser volunteers are certainly more in the face of the voters than we are. One of our astute folks claimed that it was because their whole lives are political and assertive – unions, Government outfits, schools etc, while the Noers are just ordinary folks who believe that they need to contribute to this issue.
Not a bad analysis.
I know the head Yesser here. Since retiring from a council sinecure he has been an very active trougher, on the board of every grant harvesting lefty scam going. I didn’t nod back.

Vicki
Vicki
October 14, 2023 11:34 am

Well, have done my stint at poll booth. Husband came down with nasty eye infection & virus overnight – so I took his morning shift.

The “Yes” mob were out in full force – mostly Zali Steggall aficionados, I think. At first a little hostile to me – wanting to tell me where i couldn’t stand & the lines I couldn’t cross. I find the best way in those circumstances (when you are vastly outnumbered) is to be charming. Not my natural demeanour, but a weapon of choice. In fact, as time went on it worked its magic & my opposite number on the footpath became chatty and friendly. We both smiled and greeted the voters & the overall atmosphere improved immensely. The voters responded accordingly.

I suspect the lower North Shore mob at our booth will tip the balance into “No” in this electorate, although other booths closer to the water may differ. There were a lot more young voters than I expected – & they are clearly in the “No” camp. My opposite side remarked that they are going to have a big effect on coming state & federal elections. Food for thought.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 11:34 am

Sorry Bern

I meant initialing the ballot slip. The rest I recall. I wasn’t clear.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 11:36 am

‘Expose Jewish Power’

I remind myself that the Grampians Nazis have a right to life, just like decent people. Still not sure they aren’t a creation of VICPOL on behalf of the One Party State. Either way, a Mozambique drill is the temptation.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 11:36 am

Farmer Gez
Oct 14, 2023 11:05 AM

I hate to poop the party but even if all states vote No they are planning to deliver every wish the Yes could hope for.

You saw the extent of powers vested in lunatic sate ministers during covid, nothing has changed would restrain a repeat now.

Vic Minister, Lily d’ ambrosio has vowed at a big energy conference in Sydney to compulsory acquire over four hundred kilometres of farmers land in Victoria for a totally unnecessary transmission line.
The celebration hangover is coming.

Farmer Gez The Labor Brickheads DiAmbrosio, Balckout Bowen, AlboSleezy & their Green Partners have No Brains they would not be able to comprehend this

The Net Zero Ship Starting To Sink – Governments and business leaders are now changing their tune on net zero…

Are we observing the early stages of worldwide resistance against the constraints of net zero policies?

Investors are ditching renewable energy faster than any other funds on record.

Reuters reports that renewable energy funds suffered a net outflow of $1.4 billion in the July to September 2023 quarter.

LSEG Lipper data shows this to be the largest-ever quarterly outflow. There was also a 23 percent decline from the end of June of the total assets under management in the sector—now valued at $65.4 billion.

It is not just investors who are exiting net zero. Politicians are also raising concerns.

Australian Nationals Senator Matt Canavan said net zero has “absolutely carked it.”

His position is that net zero is a “soundbite” and “totally insane.”

It is unachievable because people will starve if it is enforced.

“Almost everything we grow, we make, we do in our society relies on the use of fossil fuels,” he said.

Patrick Moore, the co-founder of Greenpeace agrees.

He told Tucker Carlson, “If we banned fossil fuels, agricultural production would collapse in a very short period of time. People will begin to starve … and half the population will die in a very short period of time.”

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has delayed banning new petrol and diesel cars and residential gas heating until 2035. This has been previously delayed twice with deadlines moved from 2025 to 2030.

He said, “We’re not going to save the planet by bankrupting the British people.”

France’s President Macron has said that gas boilers will not be banned. He has also been shy about declaring a date for phasing out fossil fuels.

The polls are showing that New Zealand’s government is heading for opposition in this weekend’s election.

The taxing of livestock for methane emissions and transforming sheep and cattle farms into pine plantations has caused a revolt among rural voters.

In the Netherlands, the Farmer-Citizen movement is the dominant party in the Dutch Senate and every provincial assembly.

Germany is planning to resurrect its coal plants and some of Germany’s large corporations such as Volkswagen, Siemens, and BASF are leaving their homeland for better business climates after the increasing local cost of pushing for net zero.

U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. believes that real environmentalism is about protecting natural habitats, sustaining ecosystems, and reducing pollution and deforestation.

It’s not about net zero, he said.

Even Bill Gates now says that “no temperate country is going to become uninhabitable.”

This is quite different from his earlier statement on Fox News two years ago when he said, “The migration that we saw out of Syria for their civil war, which was somewhat weather dependent, we’re going to have 10 times as much migration because the equatorial areas will become unliveable.”

While Australia contributes just over one percent of global carbon dioxide emissions (a similar level to the UK), in 2022, China approved 106 gigawatts of new coal fired power capacity which gives it 243 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity under construction.

That is the equivalent of 243 coal power plants with China now accounting for around 30 percent of global CO2 emissions.

Meanwhile, in June, Swedish authorities abandoned its 100 percent renewable target to reach net zero by 2045, and Norway followed this announcement by approving investments exceeding over US$18 billion to develop 19 oil and gas fields.

Even in the European Union, there is a shift of voters turning away from Green parties and towards those with an anti-EU sentiment.

Vicki
Vicki
October 14, 2023 11:38 am

The Yesser volunteers are certainly more in the face of the voters than we are. One of our astute folks claimed that it was because their whole lives are political and assertive – unions, Government outfits, schools etc, while the Noers are just ordinary folks who believe that they need to contribute to this issue.
Not a bad analysis.

That is EXACTLY what I experienced outside of our polling booth in talking to my opposites in the Yes camp. Husband & wife team where political campaigners for Steggal, whereas husband & I reluctantly involved ourselves because of the importance of the issue.

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 11:39 am

Chris

Oct 14, 2023 11:18 AM

Crush your enemies, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.

The Australian version is:

Crush your enemies, drive them before you, and eat the lamingtons of their women.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 11:39 am

Daily Mail Australia spotted the group staging a protest on the steps of the city’s iconic Flinders Street Station early on Saturday morning behind a banner which read ‘Expose Jewish Power’.

They went full Roths-child.

Never go full Roths-child

Reminds me …banks.

JPMorgan reported a bang up quarter last evening. $13.2 net income.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 11:39 am

I wasn’t clear.

I understood clearly. Say again words twice for others, if needed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 11:41 am

It’s quite amazing the mobilisation of reservists, in Israel & overseas.
They are dropping everything & flying to Israel.

Entropy
Entropy
October 14, 2023 11:43 am

The AEC asking if I voted before along with name and address initialed my ballot slip. Is this normal as I forget?

heh. Master entropy was asked “have you voted before?” And he said “yes”. Double take, then “sorry, I meant to say “ have you voted before this referendum”.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 11:43 am

The Australian version is:

Crush your enemies, drive them before you, and eat the lamingtons of their women.

The Australian version won’t offer lamingtons – unless they are government-funded to do so.

Vicki
Vicki
October 14, 2023 11:44 am

Oh and BTW – the opposing Yes bloke surprised me by admitting that he expected the No vote would get up. He did qualify it by saying he thought it would be close. Given his confession, I felt I needed to agree “it would be close”.

This devotion to their cause, even when privately believing that they will lose, is what makes this mob effective at the polls. They were happy to give up a Saturday, whereas I went under sufferance – I have to confess.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 11:44 am

Investors are starting to abandon clean green energy as they realize it’s never going to be cheap

By Jo Nova

Kathryn Porter in The Telegraph, has compiled quite the list of failures as offshore wind projects get frozen around the world.

Decisions are being delayed, contracts abandoned, auctions left without bidders and almost no new projects started. The awful truth of inflation, the maintenance cost shocks and cable failures is all too much. Then there was the problem of needing a 100 years of copper, nickel and lithium production before Christmas.

It’s all been kept quiet. Who knew there were no offshore wind investments in the EU last year, apart from a few floating projects?

After years of subsidies, wind power was meant to get cheap enough to be profitable and competitive all by itself, instead, 25 years later, it just needs bigger subsidies. When the great oil and coal price crunch came, wind power was supposed to rise through the ashes, instead we discovered that wind turbine and battery factories needed cheap coal and oil like the rest of the economy.

Turbine manufacturers have been losing money hand over fist in recent years.

Collectively over the past five years the top four turbine producers outside China have lost almost US$ 7 billion – and over US$ 5 billion in 2022 alone.

But the losses have also been driven by pricing structures designed to win market share, and aggressive windfarm developers who have refused to pay up, often while pocketing billions in subsidies. The market has started to look, if not like a Ponzi scheme, then like a house of cards built on the shakiest of foundations.

Offshore wind projects have been drying up around the world. During the whole of 2022 there were no offshore wind investments in the EU other than a handful of small floating schemes. Several projects had been expected to reach financial close last year, but final investment decisions were delayed due to inflation, market interventions, and uncertainty about future revenues.

Overall, the EU saw only 9 gigawatts worth of new turbine orders in 2022, a 47 percent drop on 2021.

Right now Australia has no offshore wind turbines and is about to jump onto a burning ship: – Especially Victoria & NSW

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 11:46 am

Another reason to vote No…

‘Nothing to fear’: Penny Wong urges Australians to vote Yes in Voice referendum (Sky News, 14 Oct)

The most terrifying Labor Party office-holder says ‘nothing to fear’. She could give a basilisk a lesson or two.

shatterzzz
October 14, 2023 11:49 am

heh. Master entropy was asked “have you voted before?” And he said “yes”. Double take, then “sorry, I meant to say “ have you voted before this referendum”.
I’m the same .. answered, “Yes, since I was 21” .. LOL!

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 11:49 am

Some advice to the people who think they are pro-Pali but are in fact useful idiots for the pro-Hamas people.
Kindly shut TF up, at least until all the hostages are returned.

But then again, don’t interrupt your enemy while they’re making a mistake.

RuthM
RuthM
October 14, 2023 11:50 am

Did a recce of polling booths in my local area on the way back from the dog park this morning. Electorate of Lilley.

First, the Happy Clappers church, which is most local to me, had good NO signage. It has good parking, but no democracy sausage, as they run a Happy Clappers type coffee van. It’s a fairly large polling place, is used as a joint polling place for a couple of electorates in federal elections. Also a sheltered area near the entrance for booth workers – it’s a bit warm today. I don’t know how they police the no booth workers within six metres of the polling place rule; it must be pretty tight.

When it was first used for elections, when Pauline Hanson was making her mark, one of the Lib workers reported that the church people seemed to be very familiar with the One Nation workers. She thought they were interchangeable.

Local state primary school, also good NO signage.

Next suburb and that little closer to the city, church hall. No discernible NO signage and YES rubbish everywhere.

All three had good crowds. I’m going to cut some grass and go to vote around lunchtime. Between 12 and 2 is usually dead quiet. I will favour the happy clapper’s establishment with my presence. A pity about the church, an acquaintance whose company I like will probably be working there on their stall, which is also a draw card.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2023 11:51 am

Vicki: My opposite side remarked that they are going to have a big effect on coming state & federal elections. Food for thought.

Indeed yes.

The one thing the Yes campaign has done is open up voters’ eyes to the staggering amount of money spent on Aboriginal affairs, and the very little obtained for it.

They will be onto Luigi and his mates to deliver something before the next federal election, which is May 2025 at the latest.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2023 11:52 am

damon
Oct 14, 2023 10:56 AM
“Just like the Australian ISIS/Hamas savages publicly baying for Jewish blood”

Leads one to wonder exactly what sort of people we are importing in the ‘desperate rush’ to populate this country.

A high proportion of rubbish types.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 11:53 am

Israel shouldn’t have had to prove that Hamas slaughtered babies

No one who has seen the other images that have emerged from Saturday’s attacks should have doubted that Hamas were capable of such a thing

LOUISE PERRY

I chose not to look at the picture. Reading Friday’s Telegraph, we were all offered a choice: did we want to see the evidence of Hamas atrocities committed against an Israeli baby?

“No” I said to myself, so loudly that my husband looked up and asked me what was wrong. I’ve seen enough this week, I said. I can’t look at it any more.

But it’s good that the choice was offered, because these images must be seen.

It was the Israeli government that made the decision to release this particular photo of a baby murdered by Hamas terrorists at a kibbutz in which the bodies of young children were found.

Ever since the first reports from the kibbutz started emerging, they were met with disbelief by those determined to defend Hamas, even now.

The Israelis were accused of exaggerating, or outright lying. They shouldn’t have had to offer proof, but they did nonetheless.

No one who has seen the other images that have emerged from Saturday’s attacks should have doubted that Hamas were capable of such a thing.

And such is the nature of modern communications technologies, evidence of the terrorists’ heinous crimes were visible to Western audiences within minutes.

In most wars there is a filter applied by the journalists on the ground and their editors back home: images are blurred, euphemisms are employed.

But not this time. In the first hours of the news emerging, I saw a short video of a beaten woman being forced out of a pickup truck, her crotch drenched in blood.

I shut my laptop immediately and tried to push the image out of my mind. And yet I found myself lying awake last night, haunted by the stricken expression on her face.

“Images are worth a thousand words,” said U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Thursday. “These images may be worth a million.”

They hit harder when you have children of your own.

I know I’m not the only mother who has been made physically ill by hearing about the events of this week.

Other friends living across the West – Jews and non-Jews alike – tell me that they’re struggling to eat and sleep, not only because of the horrors witnessed in Israel and Gaza, but also because of the responses in our home countries.

We are now generating our own disturbing images in the UK.

Two women in Camden tear down posters of missing Israeli hostages, including children, shouting “This is for Palestine.”

A woman with a Palestinian flag sticker on her cheek taunts a Jewish man, “Aww, are your people dead? Good.”

Several men tear down the Israeli flags from Sheffield and Rotherham Town Halls. A crowd of people held an angry rally outside the Israeli embassy on Monday night, and thousands more are expected to return to central London this weekend.

Look hard at these images. It isn’t irrational to have lost your appetite this week. Anxiety is the correct response.

Of course our anxiety is as nothing compared to the suffering of people in the region: Israelis and innocent Palestinians, too.

Western audiences have now been subjected to an uncensored snapshot of what ethnic conflict really looks like in the twenty-first century. We don’t want to look at them, but these images must be seen.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 11:53 am

The Yesser volunteers are certainly more in the face of the voters than we are. One of our astute folks claimed that it was because their whole lives are political and assertive

There’ll be a lot of melt downs if the vote goes as predicted.

Great material for a sequel to Don’s Party.

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 11:56 am

Given the reprehensible way some churches have “instructed” their voteherds to vote “yes”, I wonder if the disobedient flock will be berated from the pulpit tomorrow.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 11:57 am

Jim Chalmers says dividing the country by race will bring it together.

Yes Voice vote ‘can bring the country together’: Jim Chalmers (Sky News, 14 Oct)

Um, Jim, “1984” is supposed to be a warning not a manual, although he’s got the ignorance is strength bit down pat.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 11:57 am

There’ll be a lot of melt downs if the vote goes as predicted.

Hopefully, it will be epic. Maybe dover can dedicate a thread to memes, YT and Insta brain explosion melt downs we can laugh at for days after.

eric hinton
eric hinton
October 14, 2023 11:59 am

Great material for a sequel to Don’s Party.

Rabz is workshopping the Blundell character tonight I believe.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2023 12:01 pm

Why are our Political Class waiting for them to get the bomb?

They don’t want our victory to be too disproportionate.

Frank
Frank
October 14, 2023 12:02 pm

The most terrifying Labor Party office-holder says ‘nothing to fear’.

She was on TV once in the pre gay marriage days suggesting that we should have teachers in kindergartens using empathy dolls to teach the tots the correct opinions on diversity. That was pretty terrifying, mostly because she felt comfortable saying it in public.

dopey
dopey
October 14, 2023 12:02 pm

Peter Hartcher. Sydney Morning Herald.
Hamas are depraved murderers. The world is full of hate…so vote Yes today for healing.

What a grub.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:02 pm

Perfect Description of Australia

The political class is in denial about the true crisis now afflicting Britain

The party conferences changed little because the two sides seemed to be offering too much of the same thing

We are not ideologically committed to limiting government in all circumstances.” So says the summary to a new report on the Future of Conservatism for the Onward think tank, with a foreword by Michael Gove.

No, really? In a way it’s a tribute to the strength of tax-cutting in the Tory brand that, having presided over the highest tax and spend burden since the Second World War and a state that spends a trillion pounds every year, some party figures still feel the need to rebut it.

The real question is whether anyone at all in British politics actually is committed to limiting government – not just taxation, but the whole panoply of the regulatory state, and the government-knows-best policies that encroach on every aspect of our lives and show no sign of shrinking.

Obviously Labour won’t do that.

This week, Sir Keir Starmer painted a picture of the protecting state, shielding British workers from the great economic and political forces sweeping the world.

Quite how he would do this was left unspoken, but it is a safe bet that it will come back to more regulation and control. We’ve tried that and it isn’t working.

In truth, Labour’s vision of social democracy, welfarism, and statism is lemming politics – go this way because we can’t think of anything else – and it will just as surely take us over the cliff.

But the Conservative vision as presented last week is not so different.

Yes, there was pro-growth excitement on the fringe, but with little purchase on the leadership.

Those currently in charge of the party show no anxiety about the vast powers they exercise or the cost – they merely claim to be able to use them better.

So not surprisingly the party conference season has not changed much. Neither party has shifted perceptions or commands much enthusiasm.

I think there’s a reason for that. I suspect that people see both parties as skating over the surface of Britain’s problems and not engaging in the country’s real difficulties.

This week’s events have brought some of this to the surface.

Nobody can look at the pro-Hamas demonstrations in Britain, or the equivocation of so many of our intellectuals and commentators when faced with mass murder, and not think that some deeply troubling habits of thought have got embedded in our society.

Let’s sketch out some of them.

The first I have already alluded to

– the generally accepted belief that the state can solve all problems and is the fount of all wisdom.

The second is the gradual growth of the view that a strong society is not made up of individuals and families, as we have always understood, but of identity groups;

that the important thing about society is which group oppressed another;

and that it is the government’s job to rectify historical wrongs, to promote appropriate diversity, and to equalise outcomes.

The Human Rights Act and the Equality Act have helped create this regime of group rights.

Entirely predictably, the result has been race-baiting and grievance-mongering, a proliferation of protected beliefs of all kinds, and – worst – the developing sense that everyone needs their own identity group to protect their interests.

We have seen some of the consequences of all this on our streets this week.

And the third is the belief that the nation state itself is outmoded.

In fact, the nation state is the best way humanity has found for nations to manage their politics, control their territory and settle their differences within an ordered set of rules.

But nations are now unfashionable, borders are seen as disagreeable, political decisions are delegated to national or international courts, and territory starts to become a convenience of the rulers, not “home”. We have seen these attitudes starkly in the ambivalence of much commentary towards the Israeli nation state and its right to defend itself.

Such beliefs are at the root of our problems.

Their advocates say that they are “progressive”, but in fact they are more accurately described as “regressive”, because in all cases they are a reversion, a step back to pre-modern forms of thinking.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 12:02 pm

Given the reprehensible way some churches have “instructed” their voteherds to vote “yes”, I wonder if the disobedient flock will be berated from the pulpit tomorrow.

If that were to happen anywhere (and it undoubtedly will), it should be taken as a cue to exit & never return.

It’s not the gospel of Jesus Christ that’s being preached.

cohenite
October 14, 2023 12:06 pm

Any advice Cats – I’m off to a gathering this evening to farewell my best mate’s Brazilian girlfriend who’s heading back home. Given I’ll be among collectivists and the screeech is going down like the Hindenburg, who do I avoid going the gloat, especially as I will be “with champagne”?

One of my mates is going out with a Brazilian girl. He’s a big bloke but he is always rooted. Active girls.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:06 pm

Labour has the recipe for perfect roast potatoes

The Telegraph’s weekly Peterborough diary column offers an unparalleled insight into what’s really going on at Westminster and beyond

Shadow environment secretary Steve Reed is obsessed with making the perfect Sunday roast and once took a whole week off work to find the best roast potatoes.

He cooked two different types each day, including King Edwards and Vivaldis, before settling on Maris Pipers. Reed’s recipe? He boils the Maris Pipers for 14 minutes in salted water, then heats for 50 minutes in a 190C oven, turning them exactly twice.

Apparently one way to gee him up for a big interview is to whisper in his ear: “Your roast potatoes are s—.” Reed told me at the Labour conference, with a determined stare: “I love a roast dinner.” Can any Peterborough readers improve on his recipe?

Plus

The royal horse swerves Australia

King Charles is not expected to visit Australia until next year, so His Majesty’s subjects Down Under may be disappointed to hear that his horse, Desert Hero, will also not be making an appearance. Despite passing the required veterinary tests, the three-year-old, owned jointly by the King and Queen, has not been entered for the Lexus Melbourne Cup on November 7.

William Haggas and royal racing manager John Warren have decided the horse needs a rest after his third place in the St Leger at Doncaster last month.

Perhaps this is just as well. It might have been tactless to send a royal horse before the Head of State to a country where republicanism appears to be on the march.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 12:06 pm

Rabz is workshopping the Blundell character tonight I believe.

Chuckle.

That Rabz’s party would provide the perfect setting for the drama did occur to me.

pete of perth
pete of perth
October 14, 2023 12:06 pm

The meltdown recorded in a parked car genre will be epic.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 14, 2023 12:06 pm

JC @ 1134

I meant initialing the ballot slip.

If the ballot isn’t initialed by an AEC staffer it is an invalid vote. It nearly happened to me at the Eden-Monaro by-election, I filled out the ballot and then realised that it hadn’t been initialed. I took the ballot back to the table and said that the ballot hadn’t been initialed. The polling booth supervisor said “lucky you noticed, the vote would have been invalid.” Rather than getting a new ballot paper I got the supervisor to initial the ballot after I had folded it to cover my vote.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 12:10 pm

Given the reprehensible way some churches have “instructed” their voteherds to vote “yes”, I wonder if the disobedient flock will be berated from the pulpit tomorrow.

Say “Galatians 3:28” and the woke pastor will flee like a vampire from garlic.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 12:11 pm

Drove past the queue waiting to vote, in my local town. Three people handing out “NO” HTV cards, not a “YES” person in sight.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 14, 2023 12:11 pm

From Daily Telegraph. Cancelled.

Days after Firass Dirani posted a social media rant expressing support for Hamas comes news the Underbelly star was dumped from The Office Australia before production started.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:14 pm

Prime Minister Viktor Orban Outlines Why Samantha Power, USAID and CIA Hates Him

October 13, 2023 – Sundance

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban stands the gap. This is going to drive the USAID leftists bananas.

In early April 2022, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban was overwhelmingly reelected, despite the massive efforts against him by the European Union, western and euro-centric multinational globalists.

As a result of the victory, Brussels was furious at the Hungarian people. Associated Press “Orban — a fierce critic of immigration, LGBTQ rights and “EU bureaucrats” — has garnered the admiration of right-wing nationalists across Europe and North America.”

This put Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban in the crosshairs of the western alliance, specifically the EU and U.S. bureaucrats who use their power, position and intelligence apparatus to manipulate foreign nations. A year later we saw USAID Administrator Samantha Power in Hungary openly discussing her seeding of the NGO’s and political activist systems in order to generate yet another color revolution. {Direct Rumble Link} – WATCH:

Samantha Power, the wife of Cass Sunstein, is well known as the Obama/Biden administration’s advance operative who uses her position in U.S. government to influence activism in targeted nations. Hungary is now her target.

Why is eliminating Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban now a goal of the Biden administration. Well, a reminder:

? Hungary warned citizens of the west about the New World Order, created through Ukraine.

? Hungary continued to purchase Russian oil and natural gas. Zelenskyy and the Western alliance were furious.

? Hungary said they would continue energy purchases in Rubles if that is what Russia demanded.

The World Economic Forum and NATO/Western Alliance cannot permit a nation to stand on principles of nationalism.

Allowing a point of contrast that would showcase the weakness of globalism and multiculturalism is something the western control system just cannot permit.

As a result, Samantha Power, the U.S. State Dept (USAID) and the CIA, are collectively running an operation in Hungary, seeding the groundwork for the next color revolution.

They don’t even try to hide this stuff anymore.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2023 12:15 pm

No-one is allowed to say anything about people who choose to live permanently in remote communities ie deserts where it is impossible to provide a reliable water supply.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 12:15 pm

Voice to Parliament: WA poised to have largest No vote in country final Voice survey reveals
Hannah CrossThe West Australian
Fri, 13 October 2023 7:18PM

The Indigenous Voice to Parliament is headed for almost certain defeat on Saturday, according to election-eve opinion polling suggesting not a single State will vote Yes.

Newspoll, published in The Australian, reveals support for the Voice in WA is sitting at just 28 per cent, with 65 per cent of voters opposed and the rest undecided.

Nationally, only 37 per cent of voters intend to vote Yes and the No case leads in all States.

A final poll in the Australian Financial Review from had the Yes vote at 36 per cent, No at 48 per cent and the rest undecided.

Despite being set to fail, a last-minute upswing to the Yes vote sees support for the Voice hit its highest level since campaigning officially kicked off in September — but not enough to ensure success at the polls.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 12:16 pm

news.com.au:

‘Fed up Albo erupts over simple Voice question.’

“‘You made a promise to implement the Uluru Statement from the Heart. If this referendum fails will you push ahead with other elements of that?’ a reporter asked.”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2023 12:17 pm

He’s a cretin’s cretin

Aussiemongdius- look upon his works and despair.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 14, 2023 12:19 pm

Good day all,

In Katter country atm. Kennedy looks like an 80/20 to no. Heap of yes signs sprung up round NQ this week, some barely lasted 48h before being torn down & others had zip ties at first but reinforced by wire within a couple of days.

My call tonight 65/35 to no.

States 5:1 (Victoria goes yes).

Can’t wait for the cattiness by about 7pm southern time. No daylight saving in the north so by the time our polls close we will have a good idea of the trends. The meltdowns tonight IMO are going to legendary…

Have a good day all, it is already a hot el nino day up here, reckon this arvo will hit mid 30’s. Humidity has vanished again so November is stacking up to be one of those years where the NW winds send temps into the high 40’s not far from the coast. Be a great day if I could go fishing…

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 14, 2023 12:20 pm

Top Ender.

Please add the following.

Mak Siccar: No 62%. Yes 38%
States for No: Mainland
State for Yes: Tas

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:24 pm

Brave Hamas Men of Palestine and this is what their Supporters here in Australia Cheer

Hamas terrorists were ordered to target Israeli schools, ‘kill as many people as possible’ in sneak attack plans: report

Hamas terrorists were directed by their leaders to target elementary schools and youth centers in Israel to “kill as many people as possible” during their bloody sneak attack over the weekend, according to a report.

The disturbing plot was mapped out in “top secret” documents recovered by Israeli first responders from the bodies of Hamas fighters, according to NBC News, which obtained photos of the plans.

The harrowing attack plans fixated on assembly centers throughout three Israeli kibbutzim that border Gaza where civilians — namely women and children — could be easily ambushed and abducted.

In one plan, two highly trained Hamas units were instructed to surround and infiltrate the kibbutz of Kfar Sa’ad and act in tandem to corral as many unsuspecting Israelis as possible, according to the documents written in Arabic.

One unit would work to “contain the new Da’at school” while the second group would “collect hostages,” “search the Bnei Akiva youth center” and “search the old Da’at school.”

A second page in the plans — labeled “Top Secret Maneuver” — describes similar plans for one unit to secure the east side of Kfar Sa’ad while the second unit controls the west.

The documents reportedly instruct the invaders to: “kills as many as possible” and “capture hostages.”

The plans distinctively circled buildings Hamas intended to target, points of entry and modes of transportation the units would be using.

The villages of Kfar Aza, Nahal Oz and Alumim were also featured in the documents.

The detailed plans are just one of many that Israeli officials are analyzing, a source in the Israel Defense Forces and another in the government told NBC.

“The dental office, the supermarket, the dining hall,” the IDF soldier said, adding that he had “never seen this kind of detailed planning” for a mass terrorist attack.

“The level of specificity would cause anyone in the intelligence field’s jaw to drop.”

The plans seemingly negate claims by Hamas that they were not targeting and killing children in their attacks against Israel.

The terrorist group released a disturbing video Friday in which men in fatigues are holding and playing with abducted Israeli babies and children.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 12:24 pm

The most terrifying Labor Party office-holder says ‘nothing to fear’.

I’m not sure Comrade Wong inspires love among the Proletariat. That’s why he is still in the Senate.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 12:24 pm

Just cast my vote, then swung by God Damn Murphy’s to get a bottle of champers for tonight.

Telephone book, not lap top.

Maybe the laptops are focussed areas where there are often double-votes.

bons
bons
October 14, 2023 12:25 pm

Something that I haven’t seen before.
A van turned up with about eight frail and disabled folk aboard. The driver went into the booth and returned with the booth boss and another AEC worker.
The passengers voted and handed their ballots to the driver who was escorted into the booth presumably to drop the votes into the box.
Surprising, I thought that votes from retirement and aged care homes were all collected by unionists acting charatibly.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 12:27 pm

Just cast my vote, then swung by God Damn Murphy’s to get a bottle of champers for tonight.

I’ve a bottle of good single malt.

The toast will be “Confusion and Damnation to the Labor Party, and all “YES” supporters.”

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 12:27 pm

ABolish the C!

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 12:27 pm

Final poll shows a late swing towards YES.

The fix is in.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 12:29 pm

The toast will be “Confusion and Damnation to the Labor Party, and all “YES” supporters.”

How can we persuade the most people that Labor has got to GO?

The harm to the productive economy is blowing out.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:30 pm
rosie
rosie
October 14, 2023 12:30 pm

Drove past local primary school polling booth.
No had an A frame in Chinese, ‘in English at the bottom ‘risky change’.
It’s a constitutional Pandora’s box.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 12:32 pm

To drown my sorrows tonight, I have a tough choice: Glen Moray 12 or Glen Rothes 12.
There is also some Glengoyne in the cupboard.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 14, 2023 12:33 pm

Has anyone drawn up a bingo card for the post-loss euivocation/cope from the Lizard People?
“Good message, bad messenger”
“Not yet a mature nation”
“Founded on Racism, needs burning down”
“Derailed by Coconuts”
“Overshadowed by War In Israel”
“Perils of False Balance in the Media”
“Outspent”
“Murdoch!”
“Moloch!”
“Howard’s Hangover from the staged Intervention”
“Many No voters lacked the intelligence/time/heart to come to their better senses”

we really need enough for a 5 x 5 grid, middle square is “Albanese to take time off to spend with family… overseas”

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 12:35 pm

The fix is in.

The (possible) Voice topped with (possible) “land rent” to Uncle Noel, Auntie Lydia and tribesmen living in tin shacks means I’m out, Australia.

😐

Almost heaven, West Virginia
Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, growin’ in the breeze

o7

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 14, 2023 12:36 pm

Zulu,

WA highest no vote? Challenge accepted by us Queenslanders.

Bruce in WA
October 14, 2023 12:36 pm

Getting ready to go and vote NO and just reading the posts here while waiting for Mrs BiWA to put her face on.

The Voice has already caused a nasty bubble between us and older daughter (schoolteacher). She was astonished and then angered that anyone, especially the two of us, could even consider voting ‘No’.

‘So you’re going to say to all the Aboriginal people of Australia that “You don’t matter”?’

The more we tried to (calmly) explain, the more heated she became until at last she just put cup her hands, said ‘I’m not talking about this anymore’ and left.

And there’s my concern. I don’t believe the ‘Yes’ vote will get up. And I fervently hope it won’t. Not because I’m any sort of racist, but mainly because I firmly think the Voice would irrevocably divide the nation.

But here’s the rub. This entire episode, from go to whoa, has already forever changed Australia … my Australia. Something has been lost that can never be recovered — call it trust, innocence, egality … whatever. The genie is out of the bottle and will not be stuffed back in.

There will be a new Australia tomorrow and, quite frankly, it’s going to be one that worries the sh!t out of me!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2023 12:36 pm

How can we persuade the most people that Labor has got to GO?

Have you tried having the major conservative party try a platform other than – we will do the same, but slower?

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 12:36 pm

To drown my sorrows tonight, I have a tough choice: Glen Moray 12 or Glen Rothes 12.

I’ll stick with the ever honest drop- Russian Standardt. And once the Qld vote is announced I’ll move to the great Bundy.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 12:36 pm

Roger
Oct 14, 2023 12:02 PM

Given the reprehensible way some churches have “instructed” their voteherds to vote “yes”, I wonder if the disobedient flock will be berated from the pulpit tomorrow.

If that were to happen anywhere (and it undoubtedly will), it should be taken as a cue to exit & never return.

It’s not the gospel of Jesus Christ that’s being preached.

As a happy-clapper church member myself I haven’t encountered any spruking and as a general rule it’s more about ‘Christ and him crucified’ and not overt political messages. I feel we’re also more independently minded than the traditional denominations which seem to me to have more of a collectivist streak running through them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 12:37 pm

Watched that atrocious Yes video put up earlier.
Quite apart from the atrocious misogyny (young women all watch Love Island and have to have political issues mansplained to them by an older bloke) it wasn’t (ahem) “professionally produced”.
Here’s the thing about campaign post mortems.
If the Left wins, it was “a savvy, carefully crafted, digital-age campaign, drawing heavily on Obama campaign strategies and tapping into concerns of voter group X about [insert campaign manager’s pet issue here]”.
If Conservatives win it was “crude sloganeering appealing to the basest instincts of racists and rednecks”.
Of course, campaign structures are all remarkably similar, and the former is really just the Dee Madigans of this world pumping up their own tyres.
That particular video was very revealing in one way. The underlying assumption was that “Undecided” was a synonym for “Ill-informed and/or stupid”.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 12:38 pm

I would venture to say that my local polling booth in Jika will return 80% yes.
I think it may be time to move.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 14, 2023 12:38 pm

Snap, Bruce.
Not the daughter stuff- but I’m also deeply p*ssed off with the unnecessary Rubicon that a midwit with delusions of gravity thought he’d carry the nation over.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:39 pm

Makka
Oct 14, 2023 12:36 PM

To drown my sorrows tonight, I have a tough choice: Glen Moray 12 or Glen Rothes 12.

I’ll stick with the ever honest drop- Russian Standardt.

And once the Qld vote is announced I’ll move to the great Bundy.

Makkam

Bundy & PepsMax with $15 KFC Special later this afternoon with Fine Red as Results are announced

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 14, 2023 12:40 pm

Just did my civic duty. Queue about 20 long according to the door person it has been that since open (It’s 1130 here in Qld).

As others noted lots of yes volunteers, and professional gear, only a couple of no and just standing in the shade. Lots of good cheer.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 12:40 pm

I’d love a perfect 33.33 / 66.67 split in the vote, but think 38% is more likely. 0 states.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 14, 2023 12:40 pm

WA highest no vote? Challenge accepted by us Queenslanders.
Ferkin oath, you’re going down Rock Doc. We got an unassailable two-punch combo of latent racism and good sense.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:42 pm

Australians – Don’t forget to vote — who wants racial segregation?

Like a Brexit moment for the nation.

The Labor Government wants to make some changes to the Constitution but they won’t tell us what they are.

Presumably they know we won’t like it, and presumably, most Australians seem to have figured that out.

How, under the sun, did a nation of adults get to a point where we are being asked to sign legal documents that no one has read?

Polling from FocalData suggests that the people who live in the high density inner city locations, furthest from disadvantaged Aboriginal communities, are the ones voting Yes.

It’s like a fashion accessory. And for Big business and washed up celebrities too.

FocalData also said: “… our estimates point to a significant loss, and the potential for a realignment in Australian politics that looks quite a lot like the US and UK realignmen

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 12:43 pm

thanks Makka, I could warm up with some Polish vodka to start.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:45 pm

Hamas Goal In Capturing Jewish Women, Children, and Babies Was To “Dirty Them, To Rape Them”, Admits Terrorist

Mass rape has been a key part of the terror of Hamas, just like ISIS, even the children and babies were to be raped.

Posted by William A. Jacobson

The savagery of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists has included mass rape. That was the goal of capturing Jewish women, admitted a captured terrorist being interrogated, including the children and babies.

Footage released from an interrogation of capture Hamas terrorist who infiltrated Israel. He admits that the Hamas terrorists fully intended to rape Israeli women who were captured.

To anyone denying or minimizing the barbarity of Hamas? Stop gaslighting the Jewish people.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 14, 2023 12:45 pm

wanting to tell me where i couldn’t stand & the lines I couldn’t cross.

A machete usually sorts that out.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 12:45 pm

As a happy-clapper church member myself I haven’t encountered any spruking and as a general rule it’s more about ‘Christ and him crucified’ and not overt political messages. I feel we’re also more independently minded than the traditional denominations which seem to me to have more of a collectivist streak running through them.

Whooee yes.
Our out-there happyclapper lot do infact have an unembarrassed spruiker for Trump etc as well as no.
But when I went to St George’s Cathedral at the start of NAIDOC Week the Gospel appeared completely subverted by animistic heresy, actually preached by the hierarchy in procession with candles and incense.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 12:47 pm

Wentworth & the phone book in Chifley.

Feely, I voted this morning and it was through the ‘phone book’. Needed ID – Drivers licence.
No “No” volunteers have turned up. I left at 0815 – there were no how to vote cards, so I said ‘Bugger it.” and went home.

Just went back to see if they’d turned up.
Nup.
Back home again.

Did you consider just standing there and improvising it without Big Campaign materials?
The HTV isn’t complex.
It’s Yes or No.
Even Queenssslanders can manage that without a card, I think.

Luzu
Luzu
October 14, 2023 12:48 pm

I voted at an early polling booth last Tuesday where there was no phonebook, just a laptop to mark off my name.

Of course I voted NO, glorious bastardette that I am…

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 12:50 pm

Pity the next poor Welcome To Country celebrant, knowing so much of his audience has now confirmed they don’t want a bar of his/her bullsh*t.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:51 pm

Chris Minns – Your Female NSW Police Minister, NSW Female Police Commissioner, Mike Burgess ASIO & Laboe Party take a lesson from a Country with CoJones

FRANCE: NOT ALL BAD

What with today being proclaimed an “International Day of Jihad,” and in view of events elsewhere, France has banned all pro-Palestinian protests in order to avert violence. They don’t have our First Amendment, and we couldn’t really do this. Still, some will find it heartwarming:

France has banned all pro-Palestine protests. This group is now being run out by the Paris police. pic.twitter.com/s78zsqzIog

Jim Ferguson
@JimFergusonUK

#HamasTerrorist supporters are being charged by the police in Paris. Expect more trouble all over the world potentially starting Friday 13th and over the weekend as the Hamas Leader Khalid Mashal calls for a Global Jihad.

A Great Video for Our Wimps above on how to deal with Hamas Terrorist Supporters – Go France

areff
areff
October 14, 2023 12:52 pm

I would venture to say that my local polling booth in Jika will return 80% yes.

You may be surprised. My electorate, Gellibrand, is chocka with Yarraville lesbians, Williamstown doctors’ wives and Spotswood trendies — exactly the sort of electorate you’d expect to go ‘Yes’.

The figures I’ve seen, though, suggest ‘No’ has around a 7% advantage. This was confirmed to my satisfaction while voting on Wednesday at the Newport Scout Hall. In 20 minutes of waiting and watching, not a single person accepted the Yes “info” sheets. Half a dozen took the ‘No’ material.

After voting, the tradie I’d been talking to in the queue said: “Jeez, that felt good”.

Another happy No voter.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 14, 2023 12:52 pm

Went out to vote around 08:30. Lots of yes signs at Nedlands primary school, not much of a queue, offered a fresh pencil but pointed to my pen.

Voted. Spelling NO is pretty easy.

AEC youth tried to make me go out by a back door. Shouted ‘You have to go out this way!’ Shouted back ‘No I don’t!’ much to the amusement of an elderly male voter. Where these people get the idea they can give us orders I haven’t figured out. Another AEC lady tried to stop me going out the entrance too, but she gave way gracefully. She was trying to get between me and the sausage sizzle. She escaped with her life.

Bought a sausage and mustard. They didn’t have diet coke. One lady tried to get me to buy the zero sugar coke, I assured her it tastes like washing up water. She said it was better than diet coke. I nearly accused her of being a YES voter, but good manners prevailed.

Nice people. Most Australians are decent, civilised people. Even YES voters.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 12:52 pm

Old Ozzie.

And a Fine Red Penfolds Bin 407 2000 Cabernet Sauvignon to start 1 hour after Voice Polls close

Don’t leave the cork in too long.
I predict Antony Green will be administering a standing 8 count by 7:15.
Another Luigi Lotto.
What time will Luigi launch the towel into the ring?
My money is on 9:30.
Get it done very early to draw a line under it.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
October 14, 2023 12:53 pm

No 52%, Yes 48%
States for No: WA, SA, QLD, NSW
State for Yes: TAS, VIC

Voted early last week at Coolalinga (rural area 40km south of Darwin). No signage or spruikers for either side. Laptops used for marking the roll.

I think people under-estimate the effect Australia’s largely urbanised population will have on the percentages. I’m worried that if the NO vote only gets in the low to mid 50s, rather than the 65-70% the polls are showing, then the Yessers will treat it as a victory.

I agree with those who think Albo and his activist mates will go ahead anyway. But at least we’ll have kept it out of the Constitution and if we ever get a sensible government in future, it can be reversed.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 12:53 pm

Spare a thought for our poor beleaguered PM and the tragic Voice masterminds whose fingers were so tantalisingly close to victory that even though they could not touch it, they could feel it.

All thanks to those racists who said ‘No’ – who would also incidentally have been subject to
• more denigration as colonialists and racists

• repeated asseveration that the did not belong in the land of their birth

• interference in the functioning of government

• expectation to fund proliferating fantastical programmes as ineffective as all the others

• abandonment of a fundamental egalitarian principle where all Australians are equal

• have a treaty of surrender foist upon them and so on

• punitive reparations inflicted

and so on but they would not understand that because they are so stupid they can only have said ‘No’ because they are racists.

They will be so pissed off that they set up a trap for us and we didn’t fall for it.

For which we are to blame.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 12:56 pm

and if we ever get a sensible government in future, it can be reversed.

If Albo does legislate, then Dutton can romp in with a platform of reversal, sensible energy policy, land reforms (much more of it) and immigration reforms. I seriously doubt the LNP has the guts to do any of that

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 12:57 pm

Sancho Panzer
Oct 14, 2023 12:47 PM

The HTV isn’t complex.

It’s Yes or No.

Even Queenssslanders can manage that without a card, I think.

Sancho.

are you sure Queenssslanders can manage that? – Remember they spell Beer XXXX because they don’t know how to spell Beer

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 12:57 pm

I agree with those who think Albo and his activist mates will go ahead anyway.

A lot of electoral risk in that.

Thye might be stupid/arrogant enough to try it though.

areff
areff
October 14, 2023 12:58 pm

Gary Johns has a fine piece at Quadrant about the Voice, West Arnhem land initiation ceremonies and the fantasies of of the wankerati.

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/aborigines/2023/10/two-australias-one-a-fantasy-the-other-a-gruesome-truth/

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 12:58 pm

areff
Oct 14, 2023 12:52 PM

You may be surprised.

I pray this is so.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 12:58 pm

Given I’ll be among collectivists and the screeech is going down like the Hindenburg, who do I avoid going the gloat, especially as I will be “with champagne”?

The salt to be applied to this particular wound goes like this:-

“So, yeah, must be disappointing for Luigi. But, on a brighter note, how do you think his Republic referendum will go in his second term?”

Then the zinger:-

“… I mean, assuming there is a second term, that is.”

It’s important that it be delivered in a sombre, conciliatory tone.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 12:59 pm

I think we should help the snagged-toothed, Akubra’d, saliva-spraying ‘Tewwa of da Tawies’ PM and his menagerie of misshapen misanthropes by giving the some ridiculous excuses for their failure – excuses that put the blame with ordinary people.

I will go first:

One of the reasons the No vote was so high is because Australians are so lazy that they preferred to write the two-lettered ‘No’ rather than expending the extra effort for one more letter and writing ‘Yes’.

How does that sound?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 14, 2023 1:03 pm

To drown my sorrows tonight, I have a tough choice: Glen Moray 12 or Glen Rothes 12.
There is also some Glengoyne in the cupboard.

Bloody hell that’s some hard yakka there. Tough choices.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 1:04 pm

Wally Dali anticipated me be some time – and considerable volume.

I dips me lid, squire.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 1:04 pm

How does that sound?

I’m expecting a National Re-Education Camp of sorts, to re-rehabilitate the rascist No voters. A deluge of media and corporate wokeness to endeavor to set the stage for the legislation coming.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 1:05 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’

– The Saturday Paper

Gracious to the end.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 1:08 pm

—– Original Message —–
From: “Senator the Hon Michaelia Cash”
To:
Sent: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 10:31:23 +0000
Subject: It’s time. If you don’t know, say no.

My reply to Senator Cash:
Labor must go. The harm their ideas do is growing fast.

And to do that we need an Opposition with a spine. Will the Liberals stop accepting fashionable lies to try and buy media approval?

Regards
Chris
Former rusted-on Liberal voter and volunteer and donor;
Proud swinging voter, volunteer and donor.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 1:11 pm

‘Grossly irresponsible’: peak Islamic body condemns Peter Dutton’s comments on pro-Palestine rally
Australian National Imams Council said opposition leader’s comments were ‘designed to inflame tensions’

The National Imam’s Council is behind Albo. Natch.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 1:12 pm

I am not so sanguine regarding the prospects for ‘Yes’, but if they do get up then I can be break my champers bottle and do some exsanguining with that.

NADT.

YET.

Kidding! Fer cryin’ out loud, peeps!

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 14, 2023 1:14 pm

Voted mid morning after walk in the woods. Crossed paths with local couple, chatted about everything BUT voting. Voting booth had a phone book and pencils. One YES volunteer in T-shirt was directing people to the hall at the back of the High School, no-one was giving out any papers with instructions. Voted NO. btw, my High School houses were McDonald, McMillan, Whitelaw and Strezlecki, so you can all work out where I was raised ! Whipped around supermarket for nibbles to go with a decent G & T tonight at about 7pm, ran into another bloke and talked for 15 mins – voting did not come up as a topic. Home now to Hannity in time to see a female reporter in NY ? Times Square protest and older man vehemently denying that any babies were decapitated, because he hadn’t seen any pictures. I do hope someone enlightens him eventually. I refuse to see those photos, even ones with blurred out bodies, doesn’t add to my quality of life, I’ve been around long enough to get the drift. Yesterday I was sent the Laura Tingle clip and I responded with the John Anderson piece and a comment wondering if La T had ever interviewed him about the Voice. Today I got a text photo of ballot paper filled in YES. No discussion needed with this particular person, we know we cancel each other out. I’m expecting my electorate to vote No at about 60%, if more I will be very very satisfied.

No 59% Yes 41%
States for No: WA, SA, QLD, NSW
State for Yes: TAS, VIC

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 14, 2023 1:15 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’

That’s good. I don’t want to be reconciled with Marcia Langton. I think she’s revolting. And I don’t need to be reconciled with aborigines in general, I’ve nothing against them and they’ve nothing against me. We get on ok already.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 1:15 pm

Newscorpse

Yes campaigners out in force while No camp nowhere in sight on polling day
No campaigners may have made a grave error on voting day as millions of Australians head to the polls.
snip
It’s not just Mr Samaras; others have also noticed that No campaigners are few and far between in some parts of the major cities.

In the inner Sydney suburbs of Leichardt, Summer Hill and Redfern, voters told news.com.au not a single No campaigner was in sight.

It was the same in Greenwich, on the North Shore, and Bardwell, in the south, although it’s worth noting these areas have been forecast to have a large amount of Yes voters compared to other regions across the country.

Elsewhere, at the Arthur Philip School polling booth in Parramatta, in western Sydney, there were five Yes campaigners to just one No lobbyist.

Toni Wren, a Yes campaigner at the site, believed the Yes camp had come out in stronger force than their No counterparts “because there are a lot more people who are willing to stand up and volunteer because Australians want a better Australia”.

Sally Cowling, also at the same Yes station, reiterated this, telling news.com.au “I think Yes attracts a lot more people who are deeply, deeply committed and want to see change and create hope in this country”.

The one No campaigner at the same location, George*, said: “Obviously we are limited on resources compared to the Yes campaign but we’re determined”.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 1:19 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’

It was only ever alive with the grifters and parasites. Which is why it should die the death of the unwanted, unloved and unnecessary.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 1:19 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’

– The Saturday Paper

Monumental dummy-spit.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 1:19 pm

The Political Class in the west are no less corrupt than elsewhere. Just a different system and different actors.

The difference is not the corruption, the political class was always on the take. What is different now is that they do not possess any patriotic impulses.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 1:20 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’

That’s good. I don’t want to be reconciled with Marcia Langton. I think she’s revolting. And I don’t need to be reconciled with aborigines in general, I’ve nothing against them and they’ve nothing against me. We get on ok already.

Well said, Dr BG. Well said indeed!

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