Open Thread – Weekend 14 Oct 2023


Idle Hours, William Merritt Chase, 1894

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132andBush
132andBush
October 14, 2023 1:21 pm

The left’s long war on Israel

Well worth the listen.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 1:21 pm

Two views in Traderville on NYC Mayor Eric Adams.

This is an incredible speech and a must listen. @NYCMayor
is a great man. I have gotten to know him over the past year. He is the real deal. NYC is lucky to have him.

And then

The_Real_Fly
@The_Real_Fly
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This speech is funny, mostly because he’s an idiot and the haunting music is attempting to make him seem north of 80 IQ

Here’s the speech
https://twitter.com/i/status/1713013311388737622

Nice speech, the music is stupid and he is a moron.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 1:22 pm

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese unleashed on by No leaders

Anthony Albanese has taken fire from anti-Voice opponents who are calling for his resignation and for him to take “personal responsibility” for tonight’s vote result.

In a fiery interview aired in Perth, Senator Michaelia Cash lashed out at the Prime Minister and demanded he apologise to the public.

“Shame on the Prime Minister,” Senator Cash told Sky News.

“Mr. Albanese decided to pursue politics over good policy, and tomorrow he needs to explain to the Australian people why he chose to go down this path. It has been a very traumatic last 12 months for the majority of Australian people.”

Senator Cash said the Coalition’s focus in the wake of the referendum would be “accountability” and she called for a funding probe into Indigenous organisations.

“We need to do what we all want to do, and that is achieve the best possible outcome for our most disadvantaged Australians. That starts with an audit of the $30 billion a year that we fund out of Canberra,” she said.

“Tomorrow our focus needs to be on uniting the country and moving forward together.”

Earlier, Pauline Hanson’s chief of staff James Ashby made a shocking call for the prime minister to resign.

He said No voters were afraid of being branded as racist and said many people he spoke to in rural areas were “frustrated” with Mr Albanese’s Yes campaign.

“I think there’s two things that people of this country want to hear from the Prime Minister tonight. One is an apology for what he’s put this country through, and the second will be his resignation as prime minister,” he said.

“I don’t think there’s a long future for Anthony Albanese following this referendum.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 1:24 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’

Killed by Marcia Langton?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 1:24 pm

Lode.
I am too lazy to put whole paragraphs together on this, but I will throw out some catch-phrases – two and three word slogans, if you will – which I think will get a run:-
Mean-spirited
Racists and rednecks
Modesht and generoush proposhal
Too dumb to vote
Cynical fear-mongers
Did I mention racist?
White picket fence monoculturalists

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 1:25 pm

Four reasons the Teal movement is slowly burying the Liberal Party.

Saturday, 14 October 2023

Why the Teals are slowing burying the Liberals in traditionally safe seats.

I’ll give you four names:

Snake Keanpersonally disgraced and green left LINO.

Duplicity Wilson Felicity is a Sydney lower north shore Liberal. Bullshitted on her CV to get preselected. Never had a real job or achieved anything in parliament other than a selfie.

Julian LeeserAlbo’s favourite Liberal. Using his super-safe North Shore seat to campaign for the YES vote. Has done nothing other than Voice campaign for 6 months.

Barry O’Farrellthe grand daddy of them all. The original snaky north shore political operator.

Voted into power with a huge majority and did nothing when he got there. Profound disappointment.

What unites the idiots?………Getting a YES T-shirt selfie.

The fashionable Teal ladies will only need to turn up and split the vote to beat these vacuous show ponies.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 1:26 pm

Triggs is with the UN now too. Evil old woman.

May she be haunted every night by the ghost of the disabled daughter she abandoned because

“she just refused to die”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 1:29 pm

Sancho

I am summed up by YES Voters as

“Dickhead, Dinosaur, Stupid, Racist” according to Marcia Langton & Ray Martin

They, along with AlboSleezy, Wrong Wong can all go sit naked on a Spiky Pineapple

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 1:29 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’

Does that go for “Welcome to Country?”

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2023 1:32 pm

A Referendum Result competition

No will win…. (in order of No winning magnitude)

Bar Beach Swimmer: No 72%, 28% yes
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

DrBeauGan: No 71%, Yes 29%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Barking Toad: No 70%, Yes 30%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Thefrollickingmole: No 70%, Yes: 30%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

John Brumble: No: 70%, Yes: 30%,
States: “only one Yes state”

GreyRanga
No: 69%, Yes 31%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Speedbox: No: 67.5%, Yes: 32.5%.
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: Qld, WA, NSW, SA, Tas

Lysander: No 67%, Yes 33%
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Alamak!: No 66%, Yes 33%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas
States for No: Qld, WA, NSW, SA

Rockdoctor: No 65, Yes 35
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Top Ender: No 65%, Yes 35%.
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Megan: No: 64%, Yes: 32%
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: Qld, NSW, SA, WA, Tas

Mizaris: No 63.5%, Yes 36.5%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Mak Siccar: No 62%. Yes 38%
State for Yes: Tas
States for No: Mainland

Dot: No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: Mainland

Makka No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: Mainland

Nelson Kidd-Players: No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Salvatore, Iron Publican: No 61%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Delta A: No 60%, Yes 40%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas.
States for No: Qld, NSW, SA, WA

Robert Sewell: No 60%, Yes 40%
Yes states: Victoria, NSW
No states: Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Rugbyskier: No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Rosie: No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: Vic, SA
States for No: WA, Qld, Tas, NSW

Hzhousewife: No 59% Yes 41%
State for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: WA, SA, QLD, NSW

Sancho Panzer
No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Razey: No: 58%, No 42%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA, Vic

Rabz No: 58%, Yes 42%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas, SA
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld

Bruce in WA: No: 58, Yes 42
States for Yes: Victoria; Tas
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA

Local oaf: No 58%, Yes 42%
States for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA

Beertruk: No 57%, Yes 43 %
All states: No

JC: No 56; yes 44
States for Yes:
States for No:

Cohenite: No: 55%, Yes: 45%
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: all the others

Helen Davidson: No 52%, Yes 48%
State for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: WA, SA, QLD, NSW

Yes will win….(in order of Yes winning magnitude)

Alwaysright: Yes: 51%, No: 49%
States for Yes: Vic, NSW, Tas, Qld
States for No: WA, SA

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 1:35 pm

This is the referendum we did not have to have

Nyunggai Warren Mundine
Activist and former politician

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says the current approach has failed and voting No to the Voice means more of the same.

Leading Yes campaigner Noel Pearson says the problems won’t be tackled “without a constant voice in the ear of the government”.

But Indigenous voices already inform and design all policymaking. That’s the current approach. Entrenching it in the Constitution won’t make it succeed.

Pearson says there’s no Plan B if the referendum fails. But his Plan A – the Voice – provides no plan at all.

This is the referendum we did not have to have.

I’ve travelled across the country speaking with both supporters and opponents of the Voice and with undecideds. They all want to see better lives for the most marginalised Australians.

Regardless of the result, all sides of this referendum debate must come together on Sunday to harness this goodwill, enthusiasm and momentum for change.

We need a new plan based on four priorities: accountability, education, economic participation and social change.

Accountability is No.1.

Billions are spent annually. The “closing the gap” reports and the Productivity Commission say we’re not meeting the targets. Federal, state and territory governments all say the current approach is failing. Why do any of them spend one penny on programs and initiatives that don’t deliver the results?

If I give someone a dollar to do something, and they don’t deliver it, I need to know why. We need a comprehensive performance review of all Indigenous programs and services to identify what outcomes they delivered for the money provided.

132andBush
132andBush
October 14, 2023 1:37 pm

TE,
No 63%
Yes 37%

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 1:39 pm

Sancho Panzer
Oct 14, 2023 12:52 PM

Another Luigi Lotto.
What time will Luigi launch the towel into the ring?
My money is on 9:30.
Get it done very early to draw a line under it.

He did that with the vote itself. Went to a pre-poll, presumably to avoid his visit to a polling place today being all over the nightly news later today.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 1:39 pm

OldOzzie

Oct 14, 2023 1:29 PM

Sancho

I am summed up by YES Voters as

“Dickhead, Dinosaur, Stupid, Racist”

I am waiting for it on Soshul Meeja.
The simple reply … “By casually throwing the word ‘racist’ around to denigrate your opponents, you have completely devalued the meaning of the word.”

C.L.
C.L.
October 14, 2023 1:40 pm

Reconsidering my reconsidering…

Trump’s Netanyahu criticisms were moronic and contemptible.

He doesn’t appear capable of controlling himself.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 14, 2023 1:41 pm

I will be specially interested to see the Voice figures for the Teal electorates.
YES politicians whose electorate votes NO, need to adjust their thinking.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 1:45 pm

hzhousewife

Oct 14, 2023 1:41 PM

I will be specially interested to see the Voice figures for the Teal electorates.
YES politicians whose electorate votes NO, need to adjust their thinking.

The “extrapolated poll” by electorate published this week showed a couple on a knife edge and two or three leaning to No.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2023 1:48 pm

Surprisingly my older son voted No.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 1:48 pm

My Kids and Grandkids were surprised when in San Francisco last week, a Waymo Driverless pulled up to a Lady near them and she reached in and collected food

I had thought it was still in trial stage

https://waymo.com/waymo-one-san-francisco/

Momentous—and Mundane – My ride in a robot car

Like jumbo jets for Gen X and cellphones for Millennials, autonomous vehicles will be for today’s children (sometimes called Generation Alpha) a technology at once novel and perfectly normal.

Revolutionary though all of these technologies have been at introduction, to people who cannot remember a time before their arrival, they are fixtures, if still impressive ones.

As I buckled my toddler son into a Waymo autonomous taxi in Los Angeles on a Saturday in early October, we shared a palpable excitement. It’s a moment that I will cherish but that he will hardly remember by next spring.

Our family will probably own a car of the regular sort for his whole childhood, but cars on the road without human drivers will become increasingly commonplace. My son and his age cohort will view the time before cars could operate on their own as part of transportation’s grainy past.

Earlier that day, I tried to impress upon him the magnitude of this event. “We’re doing something special this afternoon: we’re going to ride in an autonomous vehicle,” I said, but to little effect. Realizing the linguistic challenge, I searched for words with more meaning for a lad of two.

“It’s a robot car.” His eyes widened. Success! This was what we would call these strange machines henceforth.

The car approached from behind me, its electric motor emitting just a quiet whirr. Having strategically hailed the car on a safe, low-traffic residential street, I anchored the car seat, secured my child, and took my place next to him in the car’s backseat, with a friend sitting up front. We touched the “start ride” button—and were off.

As we rode around Los Angeles’s West Side, my toddler’s commentary proved as interesting as the car’s movements.

“Where is the robot?”

Drat. Perhaps my perfect phrase was not so perfect after all.

“The car is the robot,” I said. “We are inside of the robot right now.”

“Where are the robot’s eyes?”

“Look above you, through the sunroof. That’s called LIDAR. It is the robot car’s version of eyes.”

“Where is its nose?”

“The nose? You can call the front of the car the nose.”

“Where are its feet?”

“Its feet are the wheels.”

As this conversation unfolded, the Waymo worked its magic, weaving us toward the Santa Monica doughnut shop I had selected as our destination.

The ride itself proved uneventful—besides the shocking fact that we were being ferried autonomously. In fact, the ride was indistinguishable from one we might have taken with a human taxi or Uber driver.

That the driving style was so human-like came as the biggest surprise.

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2023 1:49 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’

I’ll tell you what’s dead Marcia (apart from your soul),

the idea that you commie clowns can shred our constitution by inserting a back-door for an un-elected bunch of clowns of dubious provenance.

now … stfu and get busy reconciling ya crazy old mole

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2023 1:50 pm

Because the proposal looked like a bureaucratic mess.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 1:55 pm

Daily Mail cites Lidia Thorpe as arriving to cast her ballot, wearing a “NO” T – shirt..

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 1:57 pm

I felt, as I think some others did, that even though the Libs were marginally better than Labor (the Libs would release Labor’s policies but two weeks later than Labor would have) it was not good enough.

Not when you could try for a sort of reboot.

Under ScoMo who, despite having distinct physical features, represented the same bland, spineless, spiritless, featureless Liberal party that Turdbull did. It was there under Abbott, and may even go back to the last days of Howard.

So how is the reboot going?

Dutton has called out Labor’s half hearted, Luke warm response to y to be Israel-Neanderthal conflict. Easy to do as opposition leader, although it has turned out that the portion of the electorate he has provoked is not a peaceable one. He probably knows they won’t vote Liberal anyway, but they cannot be ignored so he has sort of called them out. Most politicians would avoid that, offering some fig leaf about oppression, blockades, and occupied territories.

Dutton has instead sounded a rather Trumpian not of deporting the most unsavoury element.

ScoMo would not have supported ‘No’, I think. He would have sided with a qualified ‘Yes’, saying that the battle over treaties and reparations were separate and could be dealt with later.

Dutton has brought front and centre a passionate and courageous, and frankly scrappy, woman in the form of Jacinta Price who has more credibility than anyone Labor has. She is a far bigger personality on The Voice issue than Dutton and he has given her free rein. Most PM’s like to make it clear that the rest of their team are ‘the help’ and do not like their juniors to eclipse them in anything. Do you get the feeling Albo let Burnie take the lead? To become the face of the policy? But I think Dutton has.

He is, I think, already an improvement, and I think some people in the Libs have discovered that not being Labor-lite is paying off.

I am not saying the current Libs are perfect. Ir even as good as they need to be. But I think they are better than they were. There has been improvement which I would encourage.

What I am waiting to see is a focus on economics. So many things that governments have taken on as their responsibility is surplus to requirements and, frankly, surplus to sense. If the Libs can usher in a focus on economics they will be a shoo in. Cost of living is the number one issue. And one Labor is completely unable to answer.

I would rather be able to afford to live than have bureaucrats police my pronouns.

They may not be perfect, but I would opt to nurture what the Libs are now. I could not vote for them in the last election, but now voting for them would serve a purpose.

/rant

/rave

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2023 2:04 pm

At Alice Springs airport, awaiting my ride back to D-town.

A bunch of elderly, purple-haired fat hippy women with about 50 suitcases are quietly screeching to each other while waiting to check in. Unconfirmed, but they resemble some of the pasty Yessers seen in the Todd Mall yesterday.

In any event, they do not seem pleased.

TE:

Yes 65%
No 35%
All states No except Vic

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 2:06 pm

Interesting where gerbil warming policies are heading.

The U.S.-European Union negotiations over [clean] steel and aluminum production are momentous. U.S.-European dialogue on trade has been strained for more than a century, largely over agriculture-related issues. But the Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought all these nations closer.

The U.S. and EU are working on a combined joint tariff system that effectively defines clean steel production in a way that the U.S. and EU are right under—and China above—a threshold of various metrics related to carbon emissions and export amounts. That would allow the U.S. and EU to apply tariffs to Chinese steel at the same time, and pressure China to produce clean steel and stop steel dumping.

How would an agreement between the U.S. and the EU help U.S. steel companies?

U.S. steel companies such as Cleveland-Cliffs [ticker: CLF] have been huge proponents of these tariffs against China. The more countries that impose tariffs akin to ours, the more benefit the U.S. steel companies could see.

Excerpt from Barron’s

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2023 2:09 pm

You mean the other way around for Yes/No, KD?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 2:09 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 14, 2023 2:04 PM

At Alice Springs airport …

Please.
It’s an aerodrome.

Vicki
Vicki
October 14, 2023 2:10 pm

While Premier Minns’ appearance & some of his comments at the rally of Sydney’s Jewish community during the week were reported, a quite remarkable and moving citation was not reported.

He said the following : God made three promises to Abraham. First, a people. Second, a land in Israel. Third, that they shall be blessed. And so it is and shall be.

Personally, I think Chris Minns is a good man.

bons
bons
October 14, 2023 2:11 pm

Our aboriginal ‘No’ lady told me this morning that she is a great fan of Lidia.

That shook me.

I have no understanding of the machinations of aboriginal politics. I wonder if anyone does.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2023 2:12 pm

TE:

Yes. I mean No.

Arse-about, please.

No 65%
Yes 35%

Bloody hell.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 2:12 pm

Since Albo has made it clear that he has utter contempt for those who vote No, and since they represent some above 5% of the population (close to 55-60%) he surely cannot in good faith claim to be able to govern for ALL Australians, and should therefore spend some time on gardening leave before retiring to spend more time with his family. (Don’t you love the code words?)

All he had to do was feign even a pretence of equanimity where he respected voters he did not agree with – as indeed every Liberal voter would be. But noooooo. He had to call them out as idiotic raaaaacists.

(As I recall at Blair’s, five ‘a’s was the canonic number for ‘racists’.)

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 2:13 pm

Krugman is the gift that keeps on giving;

Paul Krugman
@paulkrugman
People have been reluctant to call this. But the data really want to tell us that inflation has very nearly normalized 4/
8:07 PM · Oct 13, 2023
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177K
Views

Rideshare L’s
@UberBlacked
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9h
So what you’re saying is, now that prices seem to be stabilizing at 2-3x what we were paying for them pre-Biden, we just need to print 20 trillion dollars to increase everyone’s pay to make necessities affordable again.

Do I have that right?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 2:18 pm

‘May well find out within an hour’: Voice to Parliament result could be announced before WA votes even start being tallied

A constitutional law expert has declared the “No vote is likely to win” and the nation could even find out the result “before votes in Western Australia start to be tallied”.

As Australians cast their history-making Voice to Parliament vote on Saturday, constitutional law expert George Williams predicts the nation could find out the result “within an hour of counting”.

The latest Newspoll results suggest the No vote is likely to win, which the UNSW Professor said meant the referendum outcome may be announced before the votes in Western Australia start to be tallied.

“The no vote is likely to win. If the polls are anywhere near accurate – we may well find out within an hour or so of counting – before votes in Western Australia start to be tallied,” Mr Williams told Sky News Australia on Saturday.

“It’s really going to depend how close the vote is. If it’s really close it could take a couple of weeks.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 2:21 pm

I have no understanding of the machinations of aboriginal politics. I wonder if anyone does.

Least of all, the indigenous.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 2:22 pm

ScoMo would not have supported ‘No’, I think. He would have sided with a qualified ‘Yes’, saying that the battle over treaties and reparations were separate and could be dealt with later.

As PM Morrison rejected the Voice being written into the constitution and favoured legislating for it. In the current debate Dutton was for legislating a Voice but now seems to have moved to advocating for a Voice at the regional level, presumably advising state governments. The Nationals, however, are opposed to that. Speaking from experience, I would never place much faith in Dutton, who still views the Liberals future as a broad church.

cohenite
October 14, 2023 2:22 pm

AOC’s fart is at 39 seconds. For such a tiny skank it has some resonance.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 2:23 pm

People have been reluctant to call this. But the data really want to tell us that inflation has very nearly normalized

Really? He’s making this call after a possibly massive war in the Mid East sparks up and the Fed has outlined a loosening of MP after a couple of tighter years?

Vicki
Vicki
October 14, 2023 2:23 pm

Yes campaigners out in force while No camp nowhere in sight on polling day

After registering as a volunteer for the “No” camp I turned up this morning st the appointed polling centre to find plenty of “Yes” spruikers with tons of posters/tables/volunteers. But there was no “No” organiser with the necessary pamphlets, signs etc. I waited there for some 15 -20 minutes before one person turned up with how-to-vote sheets. Some considerable time later someone arrived with a chair & tee shirts. But for hours there was just me on one entrance, with some 6 plus “Yes” volunteers with huge posters/leaflets/hats etc etc.

Anyway, enjoyed smiling & greeting people & very enjoyable chat with my “Yes” counterpart! Politics should be more civilised.

But it was still very nice to eventually be relieved by a newly arrived “No” advocate. I played politics a bit in years past & I am “over it” now in terms of active advocacy.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 2:24 pm

cohenite
Oct 14, 2023 2:22 PM

AOC’s fart is at 39 seconds. For such a tiny skank it has some resonance.

LOL. I was wondering if I should post it, but I couldn’t hear the fart. Are you sure as it sounds like moving around the chair?

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2023 2:30 pm

I have no understanding of the machinations of aboriginal politics.

Brutal, by all accounts.

Didn’t Warren Mundine report suicidal thoughts as a result of pressure from his “mob” during the campaign?

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 2:31 pm
shatterzzz
October 14, 2023 2:31 pm

He did that with the vote itself. Went to a pre-poll, presumably to avoid his visit to a polling place today being all over the nightly news later today.

Surprised none of our “attentive” media didn’t ask why? .. AEC sez your supposed to have a valid reason to vote early ………!

Vicki
Vicki
October 14, 2023 2:32 pm

I have no understanding of the machinations of aboriginal politics. I wonder if anyone does.

From my observation, current relationships reflect older cultural practice, with some acknowledgement of the influence of “white fellas” ways. Thus, senior men are accorded “the spoils” – whether it be women, dollars or group influence.

Some “aunties” appear to have managed to acquire some influence, though I suspect it is through familial relationships in remote areas. The Aboriginal women who have political influence, like Marcia Langton & Megan Davies, have achieved this through white sponsored higher education. As has Noel Pearson.

Education and meaningful employment remain the only viable means for Aboriginal youth to escape the bonds of a life caught between two cultures.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 2:32 pm

For those interested, ongoing difficulties for inflation and the US bond market;

https://www.lynalden.com/october-2023-newsletter/

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 2:35 pm

Really? He’s making this call after a possibly massive war in the Mid East sparks up and the Fed has outlined a loosening of MP after a couple of tighter years?

PCE has been coming down, Dot. That’s what the Fed looks at. People aren’t talking about quant tightening that occurring at the moment. By year end the Fed will have taken $1 trillion out of the system.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 2:38 pm

PCE has been coming down

Because their purchasing power is cooked!

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 2:42 pm

Because their purchasing power is cooked!

How do you mean? It’s a basket too, measuring price changes from one period to another. If purchasing power is cooked, it would show up in personal consumption expenditure and that’s still tagging higher too.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 2:45 pm

Dot, the inflation that really counts and worries bond markets is wages. It’s high’ish but continues to trend lower.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/

C.L.
C.L.
October 14, 2023 2:46 pm

Has Krugman gone legitimately insane?

His ‘inflation is defeated’ calculations (sans petrol, rent, used cars, energy and food) are sub-Swan.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 2:49 pm

PCE has been coming down

personal consumption expenditure and that’s still tagging higher

Bird would go apeshit if he read this. Of course he’s still reading this blog.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 2:54 pm

shatterzzz
Oct 14, 2023 2:31 PM

He did that with the vote itself. Went to a pre-poll, presumably to avoid his visit to a polling place today being all over the nightly news later today.

Surprised none of our “attentive” media didn’t ask why? .. AEC sez your supposed to have a valid reason to vote early ………!

If anyone dared challenge him he’d simply reply about how he’s likely to be busy all day campaigning, and that’s as legit as every other reason they hear, I imagine. 🙂 But usually key politicians vote on the day with a camera in tow for the nightly news snippet…

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 2:58 pm

Roger

Oct 14, 2023 12:57 PM
I agree with those who think Albo and his activist mates will go ahead anyway.
A lot of electoral risk in that.
Thye might be stupid/arrogant enough to try it though.

And the Uniparty/Liberals won’t promise to remove it if they get in.

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 3:00 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’

Yes. She saw it gasp and twitch after her last shellacking and decided to finish it off.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 3:00 pm

Bird would go apeshit if he read this. Of course he’s still reading this blog.

Oh shit, I forgot the Bird factor.

Imagine him coming on now reciting his Roths-@@childs mania. That would go down really well at the moment. I’m betting he reckons it’s a false flag and it was an Israeli inside job.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 3:04 pm

As PM Morrison rejected the Voice being written into the constitution and favoured legislating for it.

Honest question, when it really came down to it, do you think ScoMo would have sided ‘No’ on an issue which, when announced, was 60% in favour of the Voice? At the ferg leaf he would have served up loads of sips to the Yes campaign.

So did Dutton with his second referendum, but I think ScoMo would have gone further or outright eventually endorsed Yes because the Libs at the time were always trying to coast as close to Labor as possible without actually penetrating them in the showers.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 3:07 pm

AOC’s fart is at 39 seconds. For such a tiny skank it has some resonance.

Certainly dropped her guts….

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 3:19 pm

Honest question, when it really came down to it, do you think ScoMo would have sided ‘No’ on an issue which, when announced, was 60% in favour of the Voice?

He would have desperately sought tummy rubs from the ABC.
Until the branches told the party exec what was going to happen to them at the next election, when he might have done a Kamahl.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 3:20 pm

This is the ultimate Bird bait.

https://electricscotland.com/history/WhenScotlandWasJewish.pdf

Didn’t Bird reckon he descended from famous Jew, Governor (Maj General) Lachlan Macquarie (Companion, Order of the Bath).

Chapter 6
When Did Jews Arrive in Scotland?

Several sources posit that persons from the Levant, North Africa, and even Italy had
visited southwestern England near Cornwall before the Common Era (Cunliffe 2001, pp.
302ff.; Finn 1937, pp. 10-11). There were rich tin mines in this region that were exploited
by the early Phoenicians (800 B.C.E.), who traded with ports from France and Northern

Africa to Italy and Greece (Cunliffe 2001, pp. 302ff.; Thompson 1994, pp. 137-87; Gor-
don 1971; Casson 1971). Because the Judeans (Jews) often worked with the Phoenicians
as trading partners, some could have reached Britain as early as this time. The demog-raphy of Cornwall still attests to a significant incidence of J and E3 genes in the region.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 3:22 pm

At the ferg leaf he would have served up loads of sips to the Yes campaign.

Only AI could account for the very strange auto-corrupts.

At the very least he would have served up loads of sops to the Yes campaign.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 3:22 pm

Dot

Sounds like an ancient version of a multinational – an ancient BHP or RIO

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 3:25 pm

My SIL with whom I dined last night took her black pen to vote and the AEC harridan would not let her use it, When she asked why? the harridan just said she wasn’t allowed and when she was in the booth they watched her like a hawk. Should a complaint be made? Could this be where the upswing to the Yes is happening?

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 3:29 pm

Just sounds like a Karen, Tinta. They offer a pencil, but how would they know if you used your own pen after the slip is folded and sent down the ballot box? In fact, you don’t even have to mark the ballot paper once, you’ve been signed in.

Yes, she should complain.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 3:36 pm

Good article by Janet Albrechtsen in the Oz — i’ll post this comment here because it’s sure to be reject ed by the Oz –The Police Commissioner is a woman, Karen Webb, so is the Police Minister, Jasmin Catley – where are they? so why aren’t the girl bosses fronting the media? they’ve sent some poor man to do a woman’s job — Girrrrrl power, eh?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 14, 2023 3:37 pm

JC you are required to make a valid vote. This includes a yes or no inside the box.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 3:37 pm

Yes, she should complain.

Well I’m going to that’s for sure.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 3:39 pm

By heaven if I were in my SIL’s situation I would have called her for it and asked her to show me what provision in the Electoral Act prevented me using my own pen. She would have had nowhere to go, and other voters would have learned a thing or two about challenging smug Karens

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2023 3:42 pm

Tinta

In its referendum book, I recall that the AEC said a pen could be used. The AEC Karen is well beyond her responsibility. Report her.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2023 3:45 pm

GreyRanga
Oct 14, 2023 3:37 PM

JC you are required to make a valid vote. This includes a yes or no inside the box.

But they have no practical way of verifying that.
In fact, they would be in breach of their own legislation if they tried.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 3:46 pm

I love that they are fretting that people will actively turn against the Welcome to Country nonsense.

Did these people actually think Welcomes to Country were popular? Havrr Ed there been many cases of people engaging the contrived theatre to events on their own dime? Have they not noticed it is always some organisation using other peoples money to impress others?

Everyone else has grit their teeth and remained silent because their companies and football codes have power to punish those who show dissatisfaction with it.

Lately people have been emboldened to show their annoyance and contempt because they realise how many of them they are.

Marcia’s great fear is that the carefully crafted spell had been broken.

I fervently hope that all these manifestations of degrading indigenous hokum are purged from society while Marcia is still able to see it.

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 3:50 pm

Tinta:

Should a complaint be made?

It’s curious the Karen made an issue over something that she was so definitely wrong about. Complain NOW. Have her removed from the booth and the counting. There’s something odd about this.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 3:51 pm

I just say WTC is disrespectful if people wonder why I don’t do it. “It wouldn’t be authentic if I did it”, which is prudentially true.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 14, 2023 3:54 pm

Havrr Ed Have there been many cases of people engaging the contrived theatre to events on their own dime?

Changing ‘Have’ to ‘Havrr Ed’ makes no sense as ‘Havrr’ attracts the red squiggly line of ‘WTF’ which presumable occasioned the correction.

“Ah! You seem to have made a mistake. Let us replace it with our own mistake.”

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 4:00 pm

There’s something odd about this.

Meh. Just a Karen frustrated that HER side isn’t grinding racisty racists under their heel.

Newscorpse had a sneery article about multiple NO type rumormongers scared their votes would be changed, demanding to use pens.

Article confirmed that you can BYO pen.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 4:13 pm

racisty racists

Pfft. I’m a macho, racist, ignorant bully.

Who knew?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 4:14 pm

My SIL with whom I dined last night took her black pen to vote and the AEC harridan would not let her use it

I used the pencil, albeit very firmly. I figured if they want to steal it badly enough to buy a truckload of rubbers to hand out to AEC staff then our nation is rooted anyway.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 4:14 pm

VicPol – Weren’t White Grandmothers who they could beat to the Ground

Disgusting moment cops allow huge group of Nazis to march through Melbourne’s Flinders St Station doing banned Hitler salutes before taking over a train and askingpassengers if they are Jewish – as police are forced to protect non-white riders

– Far-right protestors seen at Flinders St Station
– Threw Hitler salutes and unveiled racist banner

The group of about 30 people were singing songs about white supremacy and posing for photographs before they were approached by a small group of police officers.

While two police watched on, a teenager of Middle Eastern appearance shouted ‘f*** the Jews’.

As a result of the police attention, the far-right group furled their banner, entered the station and boarded a 1.50am train on the Werribee line.

A number of passengers were seen to abandon the train, or change their mind about getting on, once they spotted the group of protestors.

Once on the train they attempted to hand out ‘business cards’ for the National Socialist Network to the small group of other passengers headed home.

The most chilling moment on the train came when the group confronted a passenger holding a handkerchief in the blue and white colours of the Israeli flag.

The group demanded to know ‘what’s with the handkerchief’.

The terrified male passenger responded that ‘someone gave it to me on my way to the train’.

Then they asked, menacingly, ‘does it mean anything – it’s not Israeli, you’re not a Jew?’

He said ‘not to me’ and they moved on.

On the train, they handed out racist fliers and sang Advance Australia Fair as well as another racist pro-white power anthem.

At one point, a man of Middle Eastern appearance boarded the train and police asked him to sit behind them for safety.

At Footscray Station, a group of eight police officers boarded and prevented any more passengers from entering the train.

The group of far-right protestors were seen posing for photographs with the police officers in the background.

Victoria Police on Saturday confirmed that they attended Parliament House and Flinders Street station in the early hours of Saturday 14 October when they became aware of an ‘unplanned demonstration’.

‘There were no reported incidents during the demonstration and at this stage, unless further information is received, no offences were detected,’ police said in a statement.

Police said they would ‘assess the circumstances surrounding the demonstration and review vision of the incident and people involved’.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 14, 2023 4:17 pm

Considering the AEC electronically mark you off, it’s going to be hard to vote multiple times in person.
Postal votes are different obviously.
Can other Cats confirm its laptop not the phone book when voting ?

No laptops near the person who marked me off the “phone book” (the printed electoral roll, but I know what you meant).

Even a pencil mark would be difficult to erase without it being evident.
Computer software could have a tick-off only behaviour, with attempts to untick being confirmed and logged.
So either way you would need the roll ticker to be in on it to permit multiple votes. Because they either have to refrain from ticking off the miscreant on all-bar-the-last votes, or they have to supply doctored files to divisional-level cross-checking.
The same name voting multiple times is indeed the most time-costly and virtually impossible method of rigging. No chance that is happening.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 4:17 pm

– Far-right protestors seen at Flinders St Station
– Threw Hitler salutes and unveiled racist banner

Vikpol need a hobby on the weekends.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 4:18 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Oct 14, 2023 4:14 PM

My SIL with whom I dined last night took her black pen to vote and the AEC harridan would not let her use it

I used the pencil, albeit very firmly

BON,

I forgot Pen, and the Stubby Pencil in the Booth was very hard & sharp and did not show up particularly well when I started the N – Redid and had to press so hard that it went through the paper with a little hole – went over the NO to make it stand out – all within the Box

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 14, 2023 4:18 pm

Rove Macmaniac tells us that even his nine year old daughter can see why we should vote YES.

Maybe it’s because she hasn’t grown up enough to have developed a deep suspicion of lefties, Rove. Maybe being credulous and trusting adults is natural for children, and something they need to grow out of.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 4:20 pm

I used the pencil, albeit very firmly.

. My SIL did too — she said she nearly broke through the paper — she was definitely a NO and so was her mother in Cootamundra, my SIL is one of 8, there are 22 grown up grand-kids and 15 little great grandies — all the grown ups were NOs — Coota was a NO-voting place.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 4:21 pm

GreyRanga
Oct 14, 2023 3:37 PM

JC you are required to make a valid vote. This includes a yes or no inside the box.

The law doesn’t sense. If it’s a secret ballot then how would they know of you scrawled your intention? They can’t.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 4:22 pm

– Far-right protestors seen at Flinders St Station
– Threw Hitler salutes and unveiled racist banner

Any reports of pepper spray and rubber bullets deployed?

Tom
Tom
October 14, 2023 4:25 pm

Think About it (J: S. Clipperton; T: J. Pride) –reigning winner of Queensland’s biggest race, the Stradbroke Handicap — wins the $20 million Everest at Randwick.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 4:25 pm

Group of Nazis in Melbourne — any arrests?

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 4:26 pm

Chris
Oct 14, 2023 4:00 PM

There’s something odd about this.

Meh. Just a Karen frustrated that HER side isn’t grinding racisty racists under their heel.

Newscorpse had a sneery article about multiple NO type rumormongers scared their votes would be changed, demanding to use pens.
Article confirmed that you can BYO pen.

Quite possibly, but why would an official try to make an issue over something she was obviously wrong about? Yes, it could have been just a Karen with an ego issue that wasn’t getting her own way, but why start a fight she couldn’t win?

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 4:28 pm

The law doesn’t make sense.

Believe me, there’s more.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2023 4:28 pm

On the train, they handed out racist fliers and sang Advance Australia Fair as well as another racist pro-white power anthem!.

No bias here, no sirrreeee.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 4:28 pm

Senator Cash said the Coalition’s focus in the wake of the referendum would be “accountability” and she called for a funding probe into Indigenous organisations.

I hope the referendum result is as per the polls and then Australians can turn on those to whom $40B per year wasn’t enough. I think they will regret this greedy and power hungry attack on the nation.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 4:28 pm

OK NSW Police Premier Chris Minns & Wimp Female NSW Police Minister and her Wimp Female NSW Police Commissioner, this Bloke needs to be Charged

Anyone know who he is?

And Prime Minister AlboSleezy & The Australian Labor Party, this is Whay you have created in Australia – Division -Resign!

Voice referendum: Shocking moment a No supporter is repeatedly called a racist by an irate Yes campaigner at a polling booth

– No campaigner alleged called ‘a racist’
– Shocking took place outside polling both

No campaigner Bella d’Abrera claims she was confronted by the man as he repeatedly called her a racist during the shocking exchange which she filmed.

Speaking to Daily Mail Australia Ms d’Abrera said she was standing outside the polling centre when the man approached her and began allegedly verbally abusing her.

‘I was standing with my No cap on and my No t-shirt and he walked past me and came back and said “I just wanted to tell you…you’re a racist”,’ she said.

Ms d’Abrera said the man – who she had never met before – ‘got in her face’ during the exchange and a short time later came back and yelled at her in an Indigenous language.

‘A [person] who was voting had to come and stand next to me, a taller guy… and [he] told him told him to leave me alone.’

‘It got quite hairy.’

Ms d’Abrera also claims several Yes campaigners were nearby when the altercation unfolded and didn’t step in to stop the man abusing her.

‘He was…surrounded by all the Yes women,’ she said.

‘None of the Yes women came to my defence… they made excuses for him.’

She said she was left ‘shaken’ from the terrifying ordeal and felt intimidated by the encounter.

Ms d’Abrera, who is the Director of the Foundations of Western Civilisation Program at the Institute of Public Affairs claimed the man’s alleged actions represent the division Yes advocates have created during the referendum campaign.

‘This is exactly why we need to vote against this [The Voice].’ Ms d’Abrera claimed.

‘Everyone should know what the result of this referendum is…what it’s done to society and I witnessed it first-hand this morning.’

‘It’s really nasty and it’s really unnecessary.

The footage seen by Daily Mail Australia shows the man who is dressed in a light grey cardigan and a pair of black shorts directly addressing Ms d’Abrera as she films him.

‘You’re so racist,’ the man says.

The man aggressively points his finger at the camera while Ms d’Abrera records his brazen act on her phone.

‘You are racist,’ he says.

He then swipes at the camera with his left hand, forcing the woman to duck for cover in the process before the video cuts out.

Moments later he is confronted by an unknown man who appears to come to the aid of Ms d’Abrera.

‘What’s your problem, she’s doing nothing mate,’ the man says.

‘She’s racist,’ he replies before shielding his face with a white paper while blocking the camera.

He then appears to take objection to being filmed while continuing to call Ms d’Abrera a racist.

‘I was standing quietly… didn’t even offer him a No card,’ Ms d’Abrera said.

You’re an idiot mate, what are you doing this for,’ the bystander says.

‘Racist, you’re racist,’ the man says.

The male bystander is heard saying the man has no right to be in the woman’s face which the man refutes and claims he is Indigenous.

‘I’ve got no right,’ he asks, ‘I’m Aboriginal.’

Later the man confronts the woman while speaking in an Indigenous language.

‘Sorry, what else did you call me before that,’ Ms d’Abrera asks.

‘That you are a racist,’ the man replies.

He then walks away as Ms d’Abrera can be heard saying ‘and what else… so I’m a racist and…’

A spokeswoman from NSW police told Daily Mail Australia that officers from Surry Hills Police Area Command responded to reports of the incident.

‘Police have been told a man and a woman had made comments to each other over the referendum, but no assault has been reported to police.

‘The incident did not occur in the school but about 30[metres] from the entrance to the polling centre’.

No one has been charged.

Daily Mail Australia contacted Yes23 for comment.

The incident was reported to police after Ms d’Abrera informed officers before the man allegedly left the scene.

She said the man also allegedly yelled at another No campaigner.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 4:29 pm

I think they will regret this greedy and power hungry attack on the nation.

Believe me, there’s more.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 4:31 pm

Tintarella di Luna
Oct 14, 2023 1:26 PM
Triggs is with the UN now too. Evil old woman.

She is well into her 70s yet clings to any public position with her fingernails. Do these people expect to live forever? Don’t they have any sort of personal or family life to which they could retire?

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 4:33 pm

Turthead

Stop trying to make Everest in a sandpit, you infernal cretin. If there’s widespread cheating about to go on, why would they care about a single vote, and a vote that could go either way too. They wouldn’t care.

It’s obviously a Karen. STFU you annoyance.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 14, 2023 4:36 pm

It was only ever alive with the grifters and parasites. Which is why it should die the death of the unwanted, unloved and unnecessary.

Thank you Marcia you parasite

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 14, 2023 4:36 pm

– Far-right protestors seen at Flinders St Station
– Threw Hitler salutes and unveiled racist banner

I like to see these people. They quite cheer me up. And the rest of the populace who look at them and clearly think they are nuts.

I was also glad to see the pro-Hamas supporters at the Opera House. I like to count the bad guys and mark them. Anyone supporting Hamas barbarism has to be a lunatic or a subhuman monster; I want them to have maximum visibility.

I don’t think the Jews have to fear being alone; the distinction isn’t a fine line, it’s between civilisation and barbarism. I don’t like taking sides in political disputes, but if anyone hostile looking asks me if I’m a Jew, the answer will be ‘Yes, what are you going to do about it?’ And if he tries to get physical, he’d better be quick.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 4:36 pm

Don’t they have any sort of personal or family life to which they could retire?

. In her case no, you’d have to have some semblance humanity for such a sweet desire. She’s a soulless autocrat

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 4:43 pm

On the train, they handed out racist fliers and sang Advance Australia Fair as well as another racist pro-white power anthem!.

No bias here, no sirrreeee.

2

This is very Grampian Nazi-ish, no arrests, they weren’t stopped — looks/sounds like State-sponsored theatre to me.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 4:44 pm

and sang Advance Australia Fair

What are they? A labour-intensive sedative?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 4:45 pm

Rockdoctor

WA highest no vote? Challenge accepted by us Queenslanders.

You’ll struggle after Sneaker’s attempt at a new Aboriginal Heritage act. Almost had a civil war with the farmers in the West.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2023 4:46 pm

DAILY MAIL COMMENT: World holds its breath for Israel’s revenge

By DAILY MAIL COMMENT

After a week of bestial carnage and bloody reprisal, the world holds its breath for the next deadly phase of Israel’s new all-out war against Hamas.

Enraged by the pitiless massacre of 1,300 of its civilians, Israel has laid siege to the terrorists’ base in the Gaza Strip, blocking supplies of food, water and fuel.

Yesterday, the Jewish state warned all non-combatants to leave northern Gaza, where Hamas is concentrated, in anticipation of a full ground invasion.

Meanwhile, scattered around the 140 square-mile enclave under armed guard are some 100 terrified hostages, whose lives hang by a thread.

Israel says it will not lift the siege or stop rocket attacks until they are released. Hamas says it will start executing them in retaliation for air strikes that kill civilians.

Given the level of depravity shown by Hamas in last Saturday’s lightning attacks – babies slaughtered, women raped then shot, some victims reportedly beheaded –

there is no room for negotiation.

As it has before, Israel will meet fire with fire. Its people are in no doubt that this is a fight they must win. A fight against unalloyed evil. A fight for survival.

Once again, the Middle East stares into the abyss and the sense of foreboding is palpable.

But this was also a week where we learned things about ourselves.

The speed and sincerity with which Rishi Sunak condemned Hamas as terrorists and offered Britain’s support to Israel was welcomed not just by the Jewish community but by the vast majority of this country.

His forthrightness contrasted starkly with the craven Football Association, which refused to show solidarity by lighting up the Wembley arch in Israel’s colours for fear of a ‘backlash’.

Instead, it issued a trite statement deploring violence on all sides, as if there were some sort of equivalence between Hamas and the democratically elected Israeli government.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the Israel-Palestine conflict, the atrocities committed by Hamas were simply beyond the pale of civilised behaviour.

Civilians are often collateral casualties of war, but this was deliberate, cold-blooded butchery, which no compassionate human being should ever condone or excuse.

Yet sadly, for some in our country, mainly anti-Semites on the Left and pro-Palestine Islamists, it was cause for jubilation. They were literally dancing in the streets in celebration of mass murder.

Vile anti-Jewish slogans shouted by protesters at the Israeli embassy in London. Palestinian supporters tearing down posters of kidnapped babies in London’s Oxford Street and Mornington Crescent. Jewish businesses vandalised and schools closing for fear of harassment.

In universities, too, once bastions of tolerance and true diversity, anti-Semitism seems sadly to be alive and growing.

This is a free country, in which people are allowed to demonstrate and express their beliefs. It is not illegal to criticise Israel or its policies, or indeed to support the creation of a Palestinian state.

But when such beliefs bleed into bigotry, hatred and intimidation they shatter all conceptions of decency. They are also against the law and those espousing them should face arrest and trial.

Equally, Israel has every right to defend its people and its borders against an implacable and murderous enemy.

But in their understandable urge to destroy Hamas they should also show a degree of restraint and do everything possible to minimise civilian casualties.

They have the sympathy of many millions around the world. Hamas will have no qualms about putting women and children in harm’s way to shift that perception.

If Israel is too indiscriminate in its vengeance, it risks falling into their trap.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2023 4:52 pm

Don’t they have any sort of personal or family life to which they could retire?

In Triggs’ case, she loves being worshipped and told she’s important.

They’ll have to carry her out in a wooden box to get her to quit.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 4:56 pm

Hi US kids,

Don’t join the US Army to die for in Iran or Ukraine a friggin’ PS5 or the promise of a hot girl. Starring Lunchbag Lujan.

The TikTok E-Girl Warfare Conspiracy… (theory)
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MatrixTransform
October 14, 2023 4:58 pm

‘no offences were detected,’ police said in a statement

good … means they must have used their Myki cards properly then

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2023 5:00 pm

Crossie
Oct 14, 2023 4:31 PM
Tintarella di Luna
Oct 14, 2023 1:26 PM
Triggs is with the UN now too. Evil old woman.

She is well into her 70s yet clings to any public position with her fingernails. Do these people expect to live forever? Don’t they have any sort of personal or family life to which they could retire?

She gave up her disabled kid, who “refused to die” for adoption. What kind of family life would she have?

She could always get cats, lots and lots of cats.

Poot things.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 5:01 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’
– The Saturday Paper

Here endeth the Gospel according to Marcia. The Jewish vanity press – preaching to the converted.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2023 5:03 pm

Poor things, FFS

132andBush
132andBush
October 14, 2023 5:05 pm

Victoria certainly has a NASTI problem after so many years of Dan Andrews’ rule.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 5:08 pm

Mother Lode
Oct 14, 2023 2:12 PM
Since Albo has made it clear that he has utter contempt for those who vote No, and since they represent some above 5% of the population (close to 55-60%) he surely cannot in good faith claim to be able to govern for ALL Australians, and should therefore spend some time on gardening leave before retiring to spend more time with his family. (Don’t you love the code words?)

I don’t think Albo knows what a garden is, having grown up a houso in the inner city where he still has a home though much more swish. As for spending more time with his family, his son is grown up and I suspect the much younger girlfriend will break up with him once he is no longer the PM. What’s more, he is too stupid to even be appointed to any boards of directors.

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 5:13 pm

Rove Macmaniac tells us that even his nine year old daughter can see why we should vote YES.

Same kindergarten as Zoë Daniel’s children?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 5:13 pm

Somebody had managed to get a couple of aborigines out to a Curtin polling place. Have only ever seen a couple around Subi train station but they only last a day or so. Most begging in Curtin is done via corporate welfare and soft corruption.

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 5:15 pm

On the train, they handed out racist fliers and sang Advance Australia Fair as well as another racist pro-white power anthem.

We’re all neo-nayzees now then. Even the Jew at the Dover Heights vigil.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 5:15 pm

Rove Macmaniac tells us that even his nine year old daughter can see why we should vote YES.

Yes, that’s why they’re not allowed to vote or have the remote.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 5:16 pm

Tom, surely a protest.

billie
billie
October 14, 2023 5:17 pm

Marcia Langton: ‘Whatever the outcome, reconciliation is dead.’
– The Saturday Paper

Good, we have nothing to reconcile

We are not oppressors nor are ‘they”, oppressed.

Get on with your lives and stop blaming others for your actions or decisions

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 5:20 pm

But in their understandable urge to destroy Hamas they should also show a degree of restraint and do everything possible to minimise civilian casualties.

Weasel. It started well, then devolved into relativism.

They just can’t help the pre-programming. It’s ingrained.

Listen up doofus – If civilians remain, even after Israel has given them plenty of notice, they can be regarded as combatants in disguise or human shields set there by Hamas. Not Israel’s problem.

You just don’t get it do you?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 14, 2023 5:26 pm

Tintarella di Luna Oct 14, 2023 3:25 PM

My SIL with whom I dined last night took her black pen to vote and the AEC harridan would not let her use it, When she asked why? the harridan just said she wasn’t allowed and when she was in the booth they watched her like a hawk. Should a complaint be made? Could this be where the upswing to the Yes is happening?

Tinta, the AEC website is clear on this point.
Scroll to the first drop down: “Why are pencils supplied in polling booths?”

While the provision of pencils used to be a legal requirement, since 2020 under section 206 of the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 the AEC is required to provide an ‘implement or method for voters to mark their ballot papers’.

The AEC has found from experience that pencils are the most reliable implements for marking ballot papers. Pencils are practical because they don’t run out and the polling staff check and sharpen pencils as necessary throughout election day. Pencils can be stored between elections and they work better in tropical areas.

There is, however nothing to prevent an elector from marking their ballot paper with a pen if they so wish.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 14, 2023 5:29 pm

I was wrong. Looked up the website. It is ok to cast an invalid vote in a referendum. As you were, steady. You can draw big dicks if you want to, for a vote to count it must have written a yes or a no. Big dicks are optional.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 5:29 pm

Not Israel’s problem.

Not quite but they’re absolved of responsibility if they follow procedure.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 5:31 pm

Big dicks are optional.

I’m relieved to hear that.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 14, 2023 5:32 pm

Not today for Steparty.
Perfectly placed by Allen but lacked his usual kick. Frothing on the bit at the barrier which is unusual for a calm horse.
No disgrace and look to the next outing.

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 5:33 pm

Yes, Dot. That’s understood. And they know it.

My beef is with mr mealeymouth who assumed they would run amok.

Jorge
Jorge
October 14, 2023 5:34 pm

and I suspect the much younger girlfriend will break up with him once he is no longer the PM

I believe Julia is free.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 5:34 pm

By the way, today in Sydney’s east, in Dover Heights, Rose Bay, Bondi, Double Bay and Vaucluse, all synagogues were in lockdown as news came in that a maniac was driving around in a car threatening Jews.

Australia in October, 2023.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 5:39 pm

“But in their understandable urge to destroy Hamas they should also show a degree of restraint and do everything possible to minimise civilian casualties.”

Ahhhh yes, just like the “restraint” that Hamas terrorists showed us Jews last Saturday when they stormed a peace music festival, kibbutzim, farms and towns. Yes, that “restraint” and their desire to “minimise civilian casualties” has resulted in decapitated babies, butchered men and women, children pummelled with bullets and hostages taken into Gaza to be tortured, gang raped and murdered.

F*CK OFF.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 5:40 pm

Big dicks are optional.

I just had to confirm my address.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 5:43 pm

Ranga

It’s a very stupid law from the little I’ve read. Apparently it’s been tested in the High Court ( I read about it earlier but don’t have the link), and it’s pretty clear. We must vote. At the same it’s a secret ballot. Go figure.

Arky
October 14, 2023 5:44 pm

You can draw big dicks if you want to

..
Trace, not draw.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2023 5:46 pm

I’m pretty sure Israeli soldiers, not being drugged up satanists, don’t want to kill the innocent.
They have to live their lives when this is over.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2023 5:49 pm

To be fair I’m not convinced that forty something Jodie has better prospects than handsomely pensioned Elbow.

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 5:50 pm

Arky! 😀

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 5:51 pm

“To be fair I’m not convinced that forty something Jodie has better prospects than handsomely pensioned Elbow.”

Indeed Rosie

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 5:52 pm

It’s like eavesdropping on Smoko again.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2023 5:53 pm

Last call for the Referendum Result competition!

bons
bons
October 14, 2023 5:55 pm

Kiwi polls are closed.
Peters has announced that he will tell NZ who will be the next government at 7:30pm.

Arky
October 14, 2023 5:55 pm

calli
Oct 14, 2023 5:50 PM
Arky!

..
The plan view is easy, but the left elevation I find awkward.

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 5:57 pm

TE, I’m a DeathPunter. You don’t want me on your side for bets.

So I will remain silent.

Except…God is in heaven, he does as he pleases. (Psalm 115:3)

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 5:58 pm

Last call for the Referendum Result competition!

Main result: Petulant stompy-foot whining.
Yes/No 38/62 Only Vic and Tassie Yes and the rest No.

In a stunning upset, the entire ACT Shire council commit seppuku in front of the tent embassy.

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2023 5:59 pm

Last call for the Referendum Result competition!

not even gonna try and guess

I’m with Taleb

people don’t understand risk

… we are easily stupid enough to let this through

Dan Andrew being elected again is proof enough

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 5:59 pm

Sorry Calli, my Reverse Midas Touch has been deployed for the Yes case.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 5:59 pm

“They have to live their lives when this is over.”

Correct, it’s a moral army, I’m not saying it’s perfect, no army is. Israel has prosecuted soldiers who have engaged in war atrocities before.

Anyway, I received this today, IDF soldiers on the border…

https://youtube.com/shorts/iAvvE4q-M_g?si=EM8LDYFSqU3lWyhm

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 6:00 pm

Hi US kids,

Don’t join the US Army to die for in Iran or Ukraine a friggin’ PS5 or the promise of a hot girl.

Here you go Dot.

Wall Street Silver@WallStreetSilv

The US Army and US Marines are running ads featuring white males again all of a sudden.

I think this means we are definitely going to war.
3:06 PM · Oct 12, 2023

And when they recently relaxed the vax mandate of the 8000 soldiers discharged for not complying only 43 reupped. How to staff an army, not. They’re now so desperate they’re talking about reactivating the draft. If you didn’t laugh you’d cry.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 6:00 pm

Not today for Steparty.

Wouldn’t have won but the winning jockey is going to have a couple of weeks off.

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 6:00 pm

The plan view is easy, but the left elevation I find awkward.

Go the finger painting route Arky!

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 6:01 pm

I find axonometrics deceptive. Give me an iso any time.

Exploded view is waaaaay to much information.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2023 6:01 pm

a maniac was driving around in a car threatening Jews

Cops no doubt providing an escort.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2023 6:02 pm

Monty has been sighted casting his vote..

comment image

P
P
October 14, 2023 6:03 pm

Last call for the Referendum Result competition!

NO 60%, and YES 40%.
All States will vote NO

Thanks T.E. Time got away from me today.

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2023 6:04 pm
Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 6:04 pm

Cops no doubt providing an escort.

On yes, it’s now the NSWaffen.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
October 14, 2023 6:04 pm

“Sick, libellous shit. My grandfather collected evidence against the perpetrators of the Holocaust, go f.ck your mother you inbred sack of shit.”

Great to see Dot, that your Grandfather was safe behind his, no doubt large, mahogany desk. You don’t know how much, that gladdens my heart.

My Dad’s dad, was in the 10th Battalion, 3rd Brigade 1st AIF. (Gallipoli, Pozieres).
My Mum’s dad, was in the 2nd Light Horse Regt.
(Doc’s stamped-“With Regt, Romani”).

You seem more than happy to throw sh%t, without knowing any facts, about me.
Your complete meltdown, indicates much about you.

Das vidaniya!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 6:07 pm

There is, however nothing to prevent an elector from marking their ballot paper with a pen if they so wish.

The Left is all into conspiracy theories about the pen vs pencil thing. It’s fun to watch.

Why the AEC is handing out pencils — not pens — to voters (ABC)

The Australian Electoral Commission says it is aware of a small number of campaigners handing out pens to voters at some polling booths.

“The suggestion that pencils can be rubbed out doesn’t take into account any of the [AEC’s] processes,” the AEC’s Evan Ekin-Smyth said.

He said the AEC preferred to hand out pencils because “pens can have the tendency and occasion to smudge”.

“People fold their ballot paper,” he said.

“If it’s smudged, and you can’t see what the vote is, your vote might not be counted.”

Mr Ekin-Smyth also said pencils were a lot cheaper than pens, which “is important, especially when you’re buying 4.5 million of them”.

“It is firmly a conspiracy theory that people are rubbing out votes,” he said.

“It’s nonsense.

“You have 100,000 everyday Australians who are temporary staff members who put up their hand to do this.

“That is a significant level of transparency, not to mention thousands of scrutineers who oversee what those people are doing.”

Mr Ekin-Smyth said voters were welcome to use pens if they preferred.

How can the proles possibly not trust us? It’s weird. Pens can smudge!

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2023 6:13 pm

Final predictions:
– all Cats except one predict a No win
– Vic and Tas are the states most predicted for a Yes
– SA is predicted for a Yes by a few
– no-one predicts a Yes from Qld or WA

A Referendum Result competition

No will win…. (in order of No winning magnitude)

Bar Beach Swimmer: No 72%, 28% yes
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

DrBeauGan: No 71%, Yes 29%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Barking Toad: No 70%, Yes 30%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Thefrollickingmole: No 70%, Yes: 30%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

John Brumble: No: 70%, Yes: 30%,
States: “only one Yes state”

GreyRanga
No: 69%, Yes 31%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Speedbox: No: 67.5%, Yes: 32.5%.
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: Qld, WA, NSW, SA, Tas

Lysander: No 67%, Yes 33%
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Alamak!: No 66%, Yes 33%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas
States for No: Qld, WA, NSW, SA

Rockdoctor: No 65, Yes 35
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Top Ender: No 65%, Yes 35%.
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Knuckle Dragger: No 65%, Yes 35%
All states No except Vic

Megan: No: 64%, Yes: 32%
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: Qld, NSW, SA, WA, Tas

Mizaris: No 63.5%, Yes 36.5%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

132andBush: No 63%, Yes 37%
States for Yes:
States for No:

Chris: No 62%, Yes 38%
State for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: the rest

P: No 60%, Yes 40%.
All States will vote NO

Mak Siccar: No 62%. Yes 38%
State for Yes: Tas
States for No: Mainland

Dot: No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: Mainland

Makka No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: Mainland

Nelson Kidd-Players: No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Salvatore, Iron Publican: No 61%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Delta A: No 60%, Yes 40%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas.
States for No: Qld, NSW, SA, WA

Robert Sewell: No 60%, Yes 40%
Yes states: Victoria, NSW
No states: Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Rugbyskier: No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Rosie: No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: Vic, SA
States for No: WA, Qld, Tas, NSW

Hzhousewife: No 59% Yes 41%
State for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: WA, SA, QLD, NSW

Sancho Panzer
No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Razey: No: 58%, No 42%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA, Vic

Rabz No: 58%, Yes 42%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas, SA
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld

Bruce in WA: No: 58, Yes 42
States for Yes: Victoria; Tas
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA

Local oaf: No 58%, Yes 42%
States for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA

Beertruk: No 57%, Yes 43 %
All states: No

JC: No 56; yes 44
States for Yes:
States for No:

Cohenite: No: 55%, Yes: 45%
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: all the others

Helen Davidson: No 52%, Yes 48%
State for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: WA, SA, QLD, NSW

Yes will win….(in order of Yes winning magnitude)

Alwaysright: Yes: 51%, No: 49%
States for Yes: Vic, NSW, Tas, Qld
States for No: WA, SA

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 6:13 pm

Naughty Matrix! For younger Cats, you could enlarge or reduce any drawing using the pantograph.

Now, certain types use photocopiers.

Lee
Lee
October 14, 2023 6:17 pm

Disgusting moment cops allow huge group of Nazis to march through Melbourne’s Flinders St Station doing banned Hitler salutes before taking over a train and askingpassengers if they are Jewish – as police are forced to protect non-white riders

No doubt they are emboldened by the police/authorities abject failure to take any action against Muslim Jew haters marching through city streets.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 14, 2023 6:18 pm

Chris I would prefer to wield the katana myself. Why should I be deprived of the enjoyment.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 14, 2023 6:21 pm

Due to doing work today I am likely repeating something already posted.

Nazis protest at Melbourne’s Flinders Street Station: Disturbing moment you missed as man in Gucci cap joins black-clad protestors in Hitler salutes

Just when governments are discomfited by pro-Hamas protesters and the need to do something that might focus on the Religion of Peace – suddenly Gay Grampians appear.

As if from nowhere.

With police minders.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2023 6:24 pm

Updated with a few latecomers:

Final predictions:
– all Cats except one predict a No win
– Vic and Tas are the states most predicted for a Yes
– SA is predicted for a Yes by a few
– no-one predicts a Yes from Qld or WA

A Referendum Result competition

No will win…. (in order of No winning magnitude)

Bar Beach Swimmer: No 72%, 28% yes
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

DrBeauGan: No 71%, Yes 29%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Barking Toad: No 70%, Yes 30%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Thefrollickingmole: No 70%, Yes: 30%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

John Brumble: No: 70%, Yes: 30%,
States: “only one Yes state”

GreyRanga
No: 69%, Yes 31%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Speedbox: No: 67.5%, Yes: 32.5%.
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: Qld, WA, NSW, SA, Tas

Lysander: No 67%, Yes 33%
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Alamak!: No 66%, Yes 33%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas
States for No: Qld, WA, NSW, SA

Rockdoctor: No 65, Yes 35
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Top Ender: No 65%, Yes 35%.
States for Yes: Victoria
States for No: NSW, Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Ceres: No 65%, Yes 35%
All States NO

Knuckle Dragger: No 65%, Yes 35%
All states No except Vic

Megan: No: 64%, Yes: 32%
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: Qld, NSW, SA, WA, Tas

Mizaris: No 63.5%, Yes 36.5%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

132andBush: No 63%, Yes 37%
States for Yes:
States for No:

Chris: No 62%, Yes 38%
State for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: the rest

P: No 60%, Yes 40%.
All States will vote NO

Mak Siccar: No 62%. Yes 38%
State for Yes: Tas
States for No: Mainland

Dot: No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: Mainland

Makka No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: Mainland

Nelson Kidd-Players: No 62%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Salvatore, Iron Publican: No 61%, Yes 38%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Bourne1879: No 61%, Yes 39%
All states No except TAS.

Delta A: No 60%, Yes 40%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas.
States for No: Qld, NSW, SA, WA

Robert Sewell: No 60%, Yes 40%
Yes states: Victoria, NSW
No states: Tas, WA, Qld, WA, SA

Rugbyskier: No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Rosie: No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: Vic, SA
States for No: WA, Qld, Tas, NSW

Hzhousewife: No 59% Yes 41%
State for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: WA, SA, QLD, NSW

Sancho Panzer
No 59%, Yes 41%
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

Razey: No: 58%, No 42%
States for Yes: Tas
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA, Vic

Rabz No: 58%, Yes 42%
States for Yes: Vic, Tas, SA
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld

Bruce in WA: No: 58, Yes 42
States for Yes: Victoria; Tas
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA

Local oaf: No 58%, Yes 42%
States for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: NSW, WA, Qld, SA

Beertruk: No 57%, Yes 43 %
All states: No

JC: No 56; yes 44
States for Yes:
States for No:

Oh come on: No 55%, Yes 45%
All states except Vic No.

Cohenite: No: 55%, Yes: 45%
States for Yes: Vic
States for No: all the others

Helen Davidson: No 52%, Yes 48%
State for Yes: Tas, Vic
States for No: WA, SA, QLD, NSW

Yes will win….(in order of Yes winning magnitude)

Alwaysright: Yes: 51%, No: 49%
States for Yes: Vic, NSW, Tas, Qld
States for No: WA, SA

bons
bons
October 14, 2023 6:27 pm

Kiwi count so far:

National 42%
Labour 26%
Filth 10%
Peters 9%

Adern’s seat probably gone.
Looks like the cows can fart again.

Lee
Lee
October 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Actual no Nazi supporters (who make no bones about it) are apparently immune from arrest in Melbourne.

P
P
October 14, 2023 6:34 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer: No 72%, 28% yes
States for Yes: none
States for No: all

This is my dream for the rest of the evening.

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2023 6:34 pm

Naughty

nek millenium … pantograph 3D

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2023 6:38 pm

… I’m an Ideas Man

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 6:43 pm

Will Speersy be able to keep it together on the ALPBC or will he go full sTan and self immolate? If it needs to be said, never go full sTan.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 14, 2023 6:49 pm

Arky do you use a fatboy marker pen?

Bruce in WA
October 14, 2023 6:54 pm

Went and voted and local primary school.

Signage for ‘No” outnumbered ‘Yes’ by at least 8 to 1. ‘No’ supporters standing in the shade, offering cards, with a warning to be sure to write Yes or No only — no ticks or crosses. ‘Yes’ supporters standing/sitting around the corner having a chit-chat. Offered us an ‘Enjoy your voting!’ as we passed.

Telephone book mark-off.

No sausage sizzle.

VERY quiet, only saw about half a dozen voters in total while we there. In, voted and out again in <5 minutes.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2023 6:58 pm

Phatty Adams starts his sook off early by recycling a Goodies joke.

https://x.com/PhillipAdams_1/status/1713063240580956663?s=20

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 7:03 pm

She gave up her disabled kid, who “refused to die” for adoption. What kind of family life would she have?

Boambee John – don’t know what kind of family Triggs has had but her very disabled daughter had a life of love and devotion by a wonderful couple who gave her that life. Her disability was very severe and very rare and those afflicted usually die very young, however, Ms Triggs’ daughter by all accounts had a relatively long life because of the love showered on her by her adoptive parents. God does have his way and God always has a plan. Resisting is futile.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 7:04 pm

SS ALPBC doing a good impression of the Titanic house band as they sink between the waves. “More ice?”

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 7:07 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 14, 2023 5:26 PM

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 7:08 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 14, 2023 5:26 PM

Thank you Sal

calli
calli
October 14, 2023 7:12 pm

Wow! The downtickers really hate me.

Good. Burn away in your useless anger you silly buggers.

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2023 7:18 pm

results at the Guardian is the best I can find so far

anybody got better?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 7:18 pm

Sky referendum coverage available through Teh Paywallian for non subscribers (like me).

cohenite
October 14, 2023 7:26 pm

Sky calling NO already. ACT is 64% yes however. Nothing a 1 MT nuke wouldn’t fix.

bons
bons
October 14, 2023 7:29 pm

It is looking as if the NZ Nationals will be able to govern without Peters mob.

Don’t be Abbotts folks. Rip Adern’s lunacy out ruthlessly.

cohenite
October 14, 2023 7:41 pm

Kenny shit talking; Credlin close to getting up and smacking him in his sooky, smarmy gob. Bolta being too polite to the dickhead. Kenny is literally insane about the screech.

cohenite
October 14, 2023 7:43 pm

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bons
Oct 14, 2023 7:29 PM
It is looking as if the NZ Nationals will be able to govern without Peters mob.

Outstanding. Now if biden’s head falls off and obama is found naked in a gay bar we might make some progress.

cohenite
October 14, 2023 7:46 pm

Kerrynne Liddle, the aboriginal shadow minister for kids looks to be good value. Maybe there’s hope for the weak arsed libs.

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2023 7:55 pm

LoL …. the missus just wants to see Albo cry again

she wants somebody to open a book

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 14, 2023 7:58 pm

Tassie 58% NO. I knew it.

Could not understand why “experts” thought otherwise.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 7:59 pm

They must have been extrapolating from ‘two heads’ memes, Toad.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 14, 2023 8:00 pm

Will Albo take his hat off now?

And his T-shirt?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 14, 2023 8:01 pm

Kerrynne Liddle, the aboriginal shadow minister for kids looks to be good value.

Yes she was the real deal, full marks to her.

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2023 8:02 pm

show us yer tatts Albo

Chris
Chris
October 14, 2023 8:02 pm

Out early!
Powerline Week in Pictures: Mass Hypocrisy Edition

While the vampires are still abed.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 14, 2023 8:03 pm

That Wong chap trying to explain what a ferk up Albo led his mob into.

Very funny.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2023 8:21 pm

I think the next Leak cartoon will be a corker

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 8:24 pm

Iowahawk gets two panels in WiP… 🙂

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 8:24 pm

(Apologies for preempting Tom’s 4:00 AM posting.)

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 14, 2023 8:28 pm

Julien Leeser on Sky News.

You insipid take it in the bottom non-person. Go away .

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 14, 2023 8:29 pm

Are the icepicks out for the Trot yet?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 14, 2023 8:34 pm

Barking Toad I didn’t see it but is it as funny as Benny Wonk explaining a cock in a frock can be a lesbian. That is something I’d love to see.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 14, 2023 8:43 pm

Can’t wait for Albo to come on the telly explaining how the misinformation/disinformation from Dutton caused the punters to vote NO.

Especially in Tassie.

Kenny should stop digging. Credlin is making him look a goose and she’s not even trying.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2023 8:45 pm

Cats considering a new motor will find the Bentley Silver Spur reviewed by some low rent j’ismist in Teh Weekend Paywallian.

Indolent
Indolent
October 14, 2023 8:49 pm

The national vote is creeping up. If WA is strongly no and the postal votes remain high then the no vote could reach 60%, which would be great psychologically. No quibbling about a close call.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
October 14, 2023 8:50 pm

Tintanella that is a wonderful story re the adopted daughter.
Almost as inspiring as that American lady who survived an abortion who was adopted by a Christian stepmother.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
October 14, 2023 8:54 pm

A couple of things
NZ – are the nationals going to be well like the Libs – will they get rid of full term abortions
What is happening in Armenia – why now
What’s going to happen to labor here including the state govts

Indolent
Indolent
October 14, 2023 9:17 pm
  1. “Keane also mentioned that Hegseth had extensive combat experience.” Deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has two Bronze Stars.

  2. Like the Israelis, they are a Semitic people and entitled to control their ancestral land.” Crete?

  3. Numbers Bob comment over at Michael Smith. The article about Penny Mong voting for Pally Statehood. Is he an early…

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