Open Thread – Mon 23 Oct 2023


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Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 25, 2023 1:34 am

Put on Easy Tiger for obvious reasons
Not his strongest album… but it does have Everybody Knows, so there’s that

Tom
Tom
October 25, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2023 4:02 am

Media frightbats are in a tizz about this Mark Knight cartoon.

Tom
Tom
October 25, 2023 4:03 am

Woops. Mark Knight.

Tom
Tom
October 25, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2023 4:07 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
October 25, 2023 4:26 am

Rita Panahi on John Pesutto:

The hapless Victorian Liberals are proving to be about as useless as an umbrella in a hurricane.

Even as conservatives around the country celebrate an against the odds victory in the race-based referendum, the Vic Libs are finding new ways to appear inept and hopelessly out of touch with mainstream voters, particularly those who would ever see fit to cast a ballot for a Coalition candidate.

After 55 per cent of Victorians voted ‘no,’ the John Pesutto-led opposition should’ve immediately and unequivocally withdrawn their support for a state-based treaty, something they should’ve never backed in the first place.

Pesutto must make it clear that the opposition has heard the Victorian people and will stand firmly against any efforts to strike a treaty with the Indigenous population.

It’s not only the right thing to do, it’s the most politically astute move he could make.

Yet in classic Vic Lib fashion, the party leadership is too gutless to make the call.

This despite pressure from federal counterparts and a decision by the party’s state council last month backing a motion for the State Parliamentary team to oppose a Victorian Treaty with Aboriginal Victorians.

Pesutto was too weak to commit to a position on the Voice until it became clear that it was going to be defeated.

To be pro-treaty and anti-Voice is simply an incoherent policy position.

It’s like refusing to go on a date with a dude but then agreeing to marry him. Just the sort of wackadoodle tomfoolery that only the Vic Libs could pull off.

NSW and Queensland’s Labor governments have reversed their plans for a treaty, acknowledging they have no mandate after the clear referendum result.

But in Victoria the Libs are refusing to challenge Labor by withdrawing their support, preferring to sit on the fence.

When gifted a political opportunity, they manage to remind the electorate why they’re an unelectable rabble.

And a further short item:

Premier Jacinta Allan was playing the victim on Tuesday after a Herald Sun cartoon depicted her as the ‘emperor with no clothes’.

What is a tried and true trope in satirical cartoons is suddenly sexist but none of the hypersensitive souls upset by Mark Knight’s illustration said a word when Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Vladimir Putin, Dan Andrews and Joe Biden, just to name a few, were similarly depicted.

What a state.

Gabor
Gabor
October 25, 2023 4:44 am

Black Ball
Oct 25, 2023 4:26 AM

Rita Panahi on John Pesutto:

Not living in Vic, but a question occurred to me.
Why is Victoria so traditionally left wing of all the states, or has it happened only in the recent decades?

SA I understand, those double barreled names an all.
(+barrels of course)

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 25, 2023 4:50 am

FMD. Daily Telegraph:

Canterbury-Bankstown has become the first council to unanimously agree to throw their support behind people in Gaza and fly the Palestinian flag since the war began with a Jewish community figure slamming the move as “incomprehensible”.

Labor councillor Karl Saleh tabled a motion at Tuesday night’s meeting calling for the Palestinian flag to be raised at the Paul Keating Park in Bankstown and Campsie Administration building “in support of the Palestinian people” until “a cease fire is declared”.

“The media often ask, do we condemn all acts of violence targeting civilians and of course we condemn terrorism and violence in any form,” he said.

“Of course we have no place for antisemitism or Islamophobia in our city but let’s not pretend that the Palestinians have only been suffering since the 7th of October this year.”

There’s always a but. Why not aim higher?

Mr Saleh said the government had denied lighting up any Australian landmarks in the colour of the Palestinian flag despite a “massacre taking place in Gaza”.

“This motion is a mark of respect for the city of Canterbury-Bankstown to convey our condolences for more than 5000 Palestinians, nearly half of them are children who have been killed,” he said.

More than 30 pro-Palestine supporters, some draped in the Palestinian flag, peacefully chanted “save Palestine” outside the chambers.

The group applauded inside the gallery when the motion was unanimously moved – but several councillors were absent from the meeting, including Jessie Nguyen, Clare Raffan, Rachelle Harika and George Zakhia.

So where were these councillors? Who knows, but they need to explain their absence.

Australian Jewish Association president Dr David Adler condemned the move and said it was “incomprehensible that any civilised people could support a gesture at this time.”

“This would be akin to flying the German flag after Kristallnacht or the Japanese flag after Pearl Harbour,” he said.

Dr Adler said it was “not the role of local government to indulge itself in foreign policy”.

“It’s highly offensive what they have done and shows a complete lack of empathy to the Jewish community, it’s a disgrace,” he said.

“The phrase of condemning all violence is a cover for trying to build a false moral equivalent … there is no equivalence to what happened on the 7th of October.”

NSW Jewish Board of Deputies president David Ossip also condemned the move.

“An act of support for Palestinian civilians caught up in Hamas’ war is understandable but without also condemning the Hamas terror regime, you’re just giving comfort and support to Hamas who have proven to be worse than ISIS,” Ms Ossip said. “We all have a responsibility to maintain community cohesion and to prevent conflict overseas from disrupting the harmony we enjoy here in Sydney.”

So who’s responsible?

Mayor Bilal El-Hayek tabled a mayoral minute where he expressed his support for Palestine as he “cannot stay silent at the retribution bearing down on the people of Gaza”.

“What is taking place in Gaza … is nothing short of a humanitarian crisis,” he said.

Which you and your ilk are entirely responsible for.

Mr El-Hayek questioned “why the human rights of Palestinians are constantly being ignored” and said the community “cannot be silenced or in fear”.

“It’s about freedom of speech and letting the rest of the world know that there are two sides grieving,” he said.

“Let us be proud, we are a council with a heart and soul and we will show our true colours like the flag we fly,” he said.

Oh your true colours are on display. A revolting sight.

Mr El-Hayek proposed for council to write to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and the opposition leader to make a “definitive statement like they did with Israel and declare that they stand with the innocent people of Gaza” and for an immediate ceasefire.

His minute was passed unanimously with councillors Linda Downey, Khal Asfour, Chris Cahill, Charlie Ishac, Bhadra Waiba and Charbel Abouraad voicing their support.

The packed gallery also observed one minute of silence.

All those mealy mouthed platitudes.
“Free speech!”
“Innocent people of Gaza!”
“Massacre!”
What federal electorate is this shit taking place? It is an affront to all that is decent and whoever the federal member is, intervene. If you have any scintilla of decency.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 25, 2023 4:55 am

Canterbury Bankstown under Tony Burke if my quick search is correct. Well scrap the scintilla of decency. Fark me swinging.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 25, 2023 4:58 am

Part Watson, part Blaxland?

Gabor
Gabor
October 25, 2023 5:27 am

A day late but I think it’s important how world powers operate, Israel could be the next.

24/Oct/1795 Poland ceased to exist as a nation for the next 123 years, Russia, Prussia and the Hapsburg empire made sure of that as they divided the spoils.

Poland wasn’t even represented on the European map as a nation.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 25, 2023 5:37 am

Looking for ways to rip up an hour ?
Start reading a twitter thread on Jesus saying:

“Let the dead bury their dead”.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 25, 2023 5:38 am

Janet Albrechtsen holding feet to fire:

Bench is the wrong pulpit to spout political views
JANET ALBRECHTSEN
12:00AM OCTOBER 25, 2023
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Given the outcome of the voice referendum and the statement released on Sunday by a group of Indigenous activists claiming their sovereignty “has never been ceded”, there has never been a more fitting time to turn our focus to our judges. One judge in particular: Lucy McCallum.

The Chief Justice of the ACT Supreme Court surely won’t mind the attention. After all, she told new lawyers during their admission ceremony last year they should undertake their practice of the law “on the assumption that everything you do and say in the course of your profession may end up on the front page of the Canberra Times”. Alas, a local paper won’t do here.

As the nation confronts continuing demands about sovereignty and treaty by some Indigenous people after the failed voice referendum, McCallum’s extrajudicial comments warrant close scrutiny. Not because we care about her personal views. What McCallum says in private is her business. But we should care very much if she, or any other judge for that matter, uses a privileged and powerful judicial position to air personal political views that may come up for decision in their court or that raise questions about potential biases.

Since taking up her senior role at the ACT Supreme Court in March last year, McCallum has begun addresses in her courtroom by saying: “I acknowledge the First Nations people.” Then she goes further, saying: “I acknowledge that the land has never been ceded by them.”

In April last year, a month after she was sworn in as the new ACT Chief Justice, McCallum made similar comments – this time during an admission ceremony for new lawyers. In the ceremonial sitting to open the 2023 legal year McCallum added that she acknowledged “that many wrongs have been done to First Nations peoples in the name of the rule of law”.

The difficulties raised by the Chief Justice’s comments are as much about what she says as what she doesn’t say. When McCallum says she acknowledges “this land has never been ceded” by Indigenous people, does she mean the law ought to recognise their claim over Australia?

Is the Chief Justice offering a tantalisingly different position to the clear and unambiguous legal position, as stated by the High Court in Coe v Commonwealth in 1993, that there is no legal justification for “the notion that sovereignty adverse to the Crown resides in the Aboriginal people of Australia”?

Does McCallum mean, if such a matter came before her, she would prefer a different view to the High Court stated position in that case that “the (Mabo decision) is equally at odds with the notion that there resides in the Aboriginal people a limited kind of sovereignty”? When she says wrongs have been done in the name of the rule of law, does she mean the rule of law in Australia remains a problem for Indigenous people? Is she signalling that there should be a separate, different kind of legal system for Indigenous people?

When McCallum says Indigenous people are “over­represented in the criminal justice system”, does she mean that in pursuit of equitable gross statistics we shouldn’t incarcerate some Indigenous people who are found guilty of serious crimes? The fact previous ACT chief justice Helen Murrell also liked to acknowledge that sovereignty had not been ceded by our Indigenous people is no defence. That such statements are apparently at odds with the law is enough to consign them to politics, not the law.

The Machiavellians among us may wonder if an ersatz legal brief of sorts is being compiled where activists will point to McCallum and other judges recognising that sovereignty has not been ceded.

McCallum went even further in her comments during an admissions ceremony in June this year. She said she confirmed “her commitment to work side-by-side with First Nations people toward a system of shared authority in which we can hope to right the many wrongs done to them in the name of the rule of law”.

McCallum’s address that day, unlike the one from the previous April, was not posted online. What does McCallum mean by shared authority? Does she mean dual sovereignty? Something else? Is she unhappy with the High Court authority? That her comments raise many questions makes them problematic coming from a senior judge.

McCallum’s comments came at an interesting time. A divisive and heated debate about the proposed voice referendum was well under way, the voice being the first part of a three-part set of demands along with treaty and truth-telling, with many Indigenous activists and academics claiming joint sovereignty.

The Albanese government, leading the charge for the Yes case, would soon make two new appointments to the High Court.

The timing of McCallum’s comments led some legal insiders to wonder whether she was showcasing her opinions for future use on the highest court in the land. Given her political comments as Chief Justice, it shouldn’t surprise that many lawyers in the ACT and beyond were relieved that she was not appointed to the High Court.

Not all judges behave as McCallum does. NSW Supreme Court Chief Justice Andrew Bell gives low-range acknowledgments about the local people having cared for and been custodians of the land for thousands of years.

The NSW Chief Justice does not acknowledge that land has not been ceded. Nor does he say that wrongs have been done by the rule of law.

While Bell’s acknowledgments wade into the shallows of politics, at least they don’t amount to chiding the High Court. That McCallum’s gratuitous commentary about sovereignty and other matters is not standard practice among judges raises the question as to what is best practice for a judge – especially a chief justice who is a standard setter for junior judges.

The independence of the judiciary is a precious thing for judges and citizens alike. In a democracy, judges must be free from political interference to uphold the rule of law. Political interference can come from different places. It might come from a politician, or a government, trying to interfere with a judge and the rule of law. Or it might involve a judge who allows their personal political views to interfere with the law.

So let’s be as plain as day: the independence of the judiciary depends, first and foremost, on judges remaining independent from current political contests. In a democracy, we must hold on to the principle that we are ruled by law, not by philosopher kings and queens on the bench.

When the Chief Justice talks about sovereignty, she is not speaking as Lucy McCallum, private citizen. She is speaking publicly as Chief Justice. And if McCallum cannot spot the problem, she may be in the wrong job.

McCallum’s decision to comment, as Chief Justice, about sovereignty is even more curious given that she chose not to utter a word publicly about a report this year by Walter Sofronoff KC that found former ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold had made false claims in her courtroom, matters that go to the heart of the administration of justice.

There will be different views in the community as to claims by some indigenous people that they have not ceded sovereignty over Australia. High Court authority rejects even limited sovereignty for Indigenous people. Once McCallum started making overtly political comments about sovereignty, sooner or later someone was going to report them and point out that in a democracy an advocate for a cause is better off standing for a seat in parliament or joining an activist organisation.

JANET ALBRECHTSEN COLUMNIST
Janet Albrechtsen is an opinion columnist with The Australian. She has worked as a solicitor in commercial law, and attained a Doctorate of Juridical Studies from the University of Sydney. She has written for numer… Read more

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 25, 2023 5:40 am

The news about Canterbury-Bankstown council and the flag has left me furious. I grew up in the old Bankstown council area and can’t believe this decision. Wicked fools the lot of them, enabled by the jellybacked local member, Burke. I am so sorry for the Jewish community in this city. I don’t recognise this place anymore.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 25, 2023 5:43 am

Macron is quite right.
An international peacekeeping force has to be part of the way forward for Gaza.
Not to hunt down Hamas, that’s for the Israelis.
But to act as a trip wire.
Between Hamas and the less Hamas parts/population of Gaza.

Cassie of Sydney
October 25, 2023 6:08 am

““It’s about freedom of speech and letting the rest of the world know that there are two sides grieving,” he said.

Funny how the left has suddenly discovered the notion of “freedom of speech”.

Further to freedom of speech and hypocrisy. I watched Andrew Bolt last night and he defended the ABC’s decision to interview a senior Hamas operative. I thought to myself, fair enough, but I recall how Bolt refused to mount any robust defence of Mark Latham’s free speech, in fact Bolt joined in the sanctimonious pile on of Latham after his spicy twitter exchange with the sinister homosexual member for Sydney, aka Alex Greenfilth, and Bolt declared imperiously that he’d never have Latham on his programme again.

So, does Andrew Bolt find Hamas’ words less offensive than Latham’s? Dunno about others but I’d rather see Mark Latham on television than a Hamas chief.

Here’s a thought, since Bolt insists on the right to interview Hamas’ operatives because of free speech etc, perhaps Bolt could interview a Hamas bigwig about homosexual sex? LOL. The reaction from the Hamas operative would make for good television, in fact I’d pay good money to hear it.

Cassie of Sydney
October 25, 2023 6:13 am

Overnight in NYC…..a “Gays for Gaza” protest.

I suppose we should laugh.

Cassie of Sydney
October 25, 2023 6:27 am

I was told last night by a friend that a ten year old Jewish girl at a local state school here in Sydney’s east was at school when four other girls in her class shouted at her about how “Jews have been killing Palestinians for 100 years”. The mother had asked for advice as to what to do.

Curious as to where the other girls received such false information, probably the home. But I know what my mother would have done in such a situation. Never one to wait for my father to get home, she would have stormed up to the school, confronted the principal, left the principal shaking in his/her boots, and we kids would have been pulled from the school pronto. I told my friend that the mother needs to confront the principal, alert the Jewish Board of Deputies and the MSM, then pull the child from the school. If they can’t afford a Jewish primary school, then the girl should be sent to the local Catholic school.

One hundred years ago Jewish children were taunted with the line that ‘we killed Jesus’, now we’re taunted with the line that ‘we’re killing Palestinians’.

Jew hatred, it never ends.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
October 25, 2023 6:38 am

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 25, 2023 6:13 AM
Overnight in NYC…..a “Gays for Gaza” protest.

I suppose we should laugh.

Were they on the ground or shouting it from the rooftops? That would have been ironic.

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 6:47 am

Hamas provides the casualty figures. Hamas lies.
Though there is no doubt children are caught up.
Blame Hamas.

latest on gaza from ap news

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 6:48 am

Between Aboriginal sovereignty and support for Palestinian Labor and the Greens are having a fine old time.

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 6:51 am

Primary school, the children are being primed by their parents and it could get worse.
I particularly hate how people like Mayo include their children in their activism.

Cassie of Sydney
October 25, 2023 6:55 am

Andrew Lawrence….’What the word Jihad really means’…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9HpQjxNs90

calli
calli
October 25, 2023 6:55 am

despite a “massacre taking place in Gaza”.

The Father of Lies doing his thing, making it opposites world yet again. And boy, does he have some keen disciples to do the work!

If some of you don’t recognise Sydney any more, C/B is part of the problem. It looks like several square kilometres of the ME magically beamed into the southern hemisphere.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 6:56 am

What decades of indoctrination can do:

Majority Aged 18-24 Say Hamas Massacre of Israeli Civilians ‘Justifed’ (24 Oct)

The poll asked, “Do you think the Hamas killing of 1200 Israeli civilians [in] Israel can be justified by the grievances of Palestinians or is it not justified?” And…

A slim majority of those aged 18-24 said it was “justified.” Only 49 percent said the massacre was “not justified.”

The news is not much better among those aged 25-34. Only a slim majority of 52 percent said the massacre of innocent civilians was unjustified, while 48 percent said it was.

There you go, half of the young people you see support terrorists. Of course they overwhelmingly get their news from the MSM, which has been playing up Israel and playing down Hamas, like on the hospital story.

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 6:57 am
rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 7:01 am

In other words… A shocking 51 percent of young people saw what Hamas did

There is no evidence presented to support this assertion.
It also mentions that the survey was taken before the full extent of what was perpetrated was known.

Cassie of Sydney
October 25, 2023 7:03 am

From the Oz…Guterres is a creepy far-left rodent from a stinking Portuguese gutter.

UN chief sparks outrage across Israel
Jacquelin Magnay

The United Nations secretary general Antonio Guterres sparked outrage across Israel after claiming the Hamas’s savage attack on October 7 killing 1400 people “did not happen in a vacuum” in a controversial speech to the 15-member UN Security Council on Tuesday.

Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations called for Mr Guterres to resign after his inflammatory remarks.

The Hostages and Missing Persons Families Forum, which is a group lobbying for the 220 hostages held by Hamas, issued a statement saying:”UN Secretary-General – Shame on you for granting legitimacy to crimes against humanity when it comes to Jews.”

The group said: “The UN Secretary-General shamefully ignores the fact that on Saturday, October 7th, there was a genocide perpetrated against the Jewish people. He even found a roundabout way to justify the horrors that were conflicted upon the Jews.”

Mr Guterres had said in his opening remarks: “I am deeply concerned about the clear violations of international humanitarian law that we are witnessing in Gaza. Let me be clear: No party to an armed conflict is above international humanitarian law.”

Mr Guterres called for an immediate humanitarian cease-fire to ease the epic suffering and make the delivery of aid easier as well as facilitate the release of hostages.

After describing the attacks by Hamas as appalling he then added “the attacks didn’t happen in a vacuum” and that “the Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation”.

Immediately, a furious Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen pointed his finger at Mr Guterres and gave examples of the surprise Hamas cruelty.

”Mr Secretary-General, in what world do you live?” Cohen said, and later cancelled a meeting with Mr Guterres.

Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, called on Mr Guterres to resign for his “unfathomable” comments, tweeting that the UN chief has “expressed an understanding for terrorism and murder”.

He wrote the Secretary-General was completely disconnected from the reality “There is no justification or point in talking to those who show compassion for the most terrible atrocities committed against the citizens of Israel and the Jewish people”.

Oh I see, according to the Portuguese rodent, we Jews ask to be raped, we Jews ask to be butchered and burnt alive, Jewish babies asked to be decapitated, Jewish children asked to be shot dead, Jewish men asked to be slaughtered, the state of Israel asks to be annihilated, pogroms against Jews are understandable.

Oh yes, the Portuguese rodent must also believe in “legitimate grievances”.

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 7:17 am

Thanks to UN money Gaza’s population is bursting at the seams. I don’t see a solution if the UN continues to fund them and Arabs don’t want them.
Gaza’s main industry is terrorism.
That’s the vacuum.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 25, 2023 7:23 am

Finally (the Hun):

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have been slammed as “royal grifters” in the hugely popular series Family Guy.

Following the savaging of South Park’s World Wide Privacy Tour, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were again shredded for the lavish lifestyle.

“Sir, your millions from Netflix for … no one knows what,” a butler tells a cartoon Prince Harry lounging by the pool alongside Meghan Markle.

“Put it with the rest of them,” he replies.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 7:25 am

Here’s an illustration of what the MSM is doing.

Associated Press Reporters Can Only Describe Hamas Terrorists as Militants, ‘Fighters, Attackers, or Combatants’ (24 Oct)

With the hollowing out of news rooms Associated Press is even more important to MSM outlets for stories to publish. Recall how AP in Gaza was working in the same building as Hamas.

Young people who get news from the MSM have had this propaganda flooded into them their whole lives.

Cassie of Sydney
October 25, 2023 7:26 am

Except most young people aren’t getting their news from the MSM.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 25, 2023 7:31 am

For Cassie and Calli et al. Stay strong and know that you have unwavering support from many quiet Australians. In today’s Oz.

No safe space on campus for support of Israel

Salvatore Babones

Last week a group calling itself Sydney University Staff for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions held an on-campus forum to discuss the conflict in the Middle East.

The event, Gaza in Context: The Duty of Solidarity in the West, warned of “Palestinians being made the objects of genocidal violence”. Our duty as scholars – if we’re to believe this organisation – is to stand with Hamas against a genocide perpetrated by Israel. BDS is a global campaign to isolate Israel. At least 90 present and former University of Sydney academics have signed the BDS pledge. Many more support it less publicly.

My colleagues say they are not anti-Semitic and I take them at their word. While not vilifying Jewish people or the Jewish faith, they do claim “Israel is a brutal, colonising power” that has “laid the ground for a second Nakba”.

Anti-Semitism has become ‘increasingly intolerable’ in American universities
Newsweek Senior Editor-At-Large Josh Hammer says anti-Semitism has become “increasingly totally intolerable” in American universities. “Jew hatred on the American university campus is not exactly a new phenomenon,” he said. “What is new is just how bad it has gotten.” “Look at the response to the Hamas war on Israel More
That’s an interesting choice of words. The Arabic word Nakba (catastrophe) gained prominence in the 1990s as a Palestinian counterpart to the Hebrew shoah, which carries the same connotation. In the Shoah (more widely known as the Holocaust) roughly six million Jews were systematically murdered between 1941 and 1945. By contrast, during the Palestinian Nakba of 1948, roughly 750,000 Palestinians fled their homes or were driven into exile. Their departure was prompted by a UN resolution to divide Palestine into independent (and roughly equal) Jewish and Arab states. But they didn’t leave peacefully.

They left after attacking their Jewish neighbours, with no thought for negotiation, on the declaration of the State of Israel. At the same time, the armies of Egypt, Iraq, Jordan and Syria all invaded Israel in support of the Palestinian cause. In short, Palestinian Arabs and their allies attempted to expel the Jews from the Holy Land but failed. That was their catastrophe.

My colleagues are aware of this history. They’re also aware that Jewish minority communities since have been driven out of every Arab country. Yet they continue to seek “peace, equality and justice … in solidarity with Palestine”, blaming the current “tragedy” on Israeli “apartheid and ethnic cleansing”.

My colleagues may not be anti-Semitic but such strongly professed condemnations of Israel in defiance of history and logic make our universities safe spaces in which anti-Semitism can flourish. No one on campus is brazen enough to call for a second Holocaust. But anyone with a first-class honours in the liberal arts can parse the obvious implications of calling for a Palestine that runs “from the river to the sea”.

And it is in the liberal arts – and in staff unions led mainly by arts academics – that tacit support and tepid contextualisation of the horrific October 7 terror attacks is concentrated. In those disciplines that should know better, “justice for Palestine” is, if not the absolute majority view, at least the majority view among those who have a view. For our arts faculties are divided between those who condemn Israel, and those who don’t view the Arab-Israeli conflict as a topic of particular interest.

Those who might support Israel publicly, condemn Palestinian terrorism or present a straightforward factual history of the Arab-Israeli conflict are strikingly absent because they were never hired in the first place. Academic supporters of Palestine strenuously object to the hiring of Zionists (supporters of a Jewish homeland in Israel). But the reverse is not true: those few who support Israel generally object only to outright anti-Semitism, not to candidates who merely express support for Palestine.

A member of Palestine Action Group Sydney holds a Palestinian flag during a rally against Israeli occupation of Palestine in Sydney.
A member of Palestine Action Group Sydney holds a Palestinian flag during a rally against Israeli occupation of Palestine in Sydney.
What’s true of hiring is also true at the beginning of the pipeline. Pro-Palestinian activist professors often will not give a fair reading to class papers that oppose their view. They won’t take on honours students who support Israel, or supervise PhD projects that expose Palestinian crimes. It is near-impossible for a committed Zionist to get on the academic ladder, never mind get an academic job.

As a result, there are two camps in arts academe: committed activists who condemn Israel for supposedly calling down on itself terrorist atrocities such as the October 7 attacks, and people who steer clear of the entire region. Academic freedom protects the first group. The second just keeps their heads down and let the BDS crowd run the asylum.

Salvatore Babones is a University of Sydney associate professor.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 25, 2023 7:38 am

Where do I begin Cassie. The absolute disgust I have for the treatment of Jews. It is so irrational, beyond belief to me. I admire Jews for their ability to thrive in spite of this treatment. This alone should be an inspiration never to give in for anyone. What would the world be like without the contribution to culture and science, very grey. Having worked with many differing nationalities none of them particularly liked anyone from a different country or even a different part of their own country. This was put into perspective by my old Italian mate. He said where he came from in Lombardy his town didn’t get on with the next town. He thought if people didn’t have someone to feel superior to they’d have to look at their own failures. I know Israel will prevail, and though I have no religious belief, heaven help us if they don’t. Follow your ancestors and stay strong as they did.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 7:39 am

Macron is quite right.
An international peacekeeping force has to be part of the way forward for Gaza.
Not to hunt down Hamas, that’s for the Israelis.

As I read it, Macron was calling for an international coalition to counter Hamas just as it did ISIS. An interesting development, but he’d have some persuading to do with the Arab countries that aligned with the West against ISIS.

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 7:44 am

Islamic terrorism within France gives French leaders some clarity.
Is Macron also letting a certain segment of French citizens certain behaviours will continue to not be tolerated?

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 7:45 am

Is Macron also letting a certain segment of French citizens certain behaviours will continue to not be tolerated?

No doubt his visit to Israel had domestic applications.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 7:48 am

I particularly hate how people like Mayo include their children in their activism.

Thorpe takes her grandchildren to rallies.

They’re white rangas.

bons
bons
October 25, 2023 7:51 am

I have mentioned before that I met Guterres on two occasions late 90’s, early 2000’s.

He is a caricature.

Extreme case of little man complex.
Castllian level haughty.
Perhaps more than any one I have encountered, he oozes contempt.

I recall the French Defence Minister at the time of East Timor saying that Portugese’ pride makes them impossible to deal with. Thst certainly desctibes our boy.

When he was rotating president of the EU, he announced that any nation not adopting EU environmental policies would be banned from trade and intercourse with the EU.
He was a nobody, but he used that arrogance to climb the extreme left international grifter ladder.

Sharan Burrow is a great fan.

shatterzzz
October 25, 2023 7:52 am

Last week the chap stated there were 16 Oz “residents” in GAZA then today this comes out ..
Hanaa Elmobayed is among 77 Australian citizens, permanent residents and their families known to be in Gaza,
And they (gummint) wonder why folk don’t believe most of their waffling …….
77 folk prefer life in Gaza to Oz ….. FFS

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 7:54 am

Cassie – of course they get their news from the MSM because that’s where the news on Facebook and TikTok comes from. Even worse: the demotion of right wing media articles by those platforms, and by Google, means they only get left-wing MSM news.

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 7:58 am

Young people don’t use Facebook, that’s for older people.
I don’t know how many even bother with news and politics at all.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 8:04 am

Things going badly for Russia’s offensive by all accounts.

I don’t think they can win this war.

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 8:05 am

Telegram is where you go if you want hamas atrocity content, apparently.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 8:08 am

Some black humour.

Leftwing Cancel Culture Devours Its Own, and the Cries for Help Are Pathetic (24 Oct, via Lucianne)

Amidst a rash of antisemitism emanating from the left following the deadly terrorist attack by Hamas on October 7th, those who championed cancel culture are now being devoured by it. Somewhat surprisingly, corporations have decided that championing the largest slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust is a bridge too far. Most would consider that a justified standard.

Yet, the same people who once lauded cancel culture as a necessary consequence are now demanding that conservatives come to their aid. Claims of hypocrisy are ringing out, claiming that because the right broadly opposed cancel culture, they should now go to bat for those who created it.

So let me get this straight. The far-left has spent the last decade creating a system whereby political wrong-think is swiftly punished, including using advertiser boycotts as a chief weapon to take down conservative outlets, but the moment the alligator starts eating the one feeding it, I’m supposed to care? And not doing so makes me a “hypocrite?”

Regardless, even if people being fired for their pro-Hamas views was a legitimate example of cancel culture, I still wouldn’t care. I’ll wear the title of hypocrite if I must because it’s far more important that the far left be made to play by their own rules. The worst-case scenario for everyone would be to have a society that cancels people on the right for ten-year-old tweets they’ve apologized for but doesn’t cancel people on the left for cheering on terrorists in the present day.

I don’t think this will red pill many lefties, but it’s schadenfreudian that they are getting cancelled because of their support for bloodthirsty Hamas jihadists.

Cassie of Sydney
October 25, 2023 8:09 am

I know no young people who use Facebook.

Cassie of Sydney
October 25, 2023 8:09 am

“rosie
Oct 25, 2023 7:58 AM”

Snap.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 8:17 am

As with the Tele article Black Ball put up earlier it’s looking like the left is pulling out the old islamophobia wheeze again.

Pure Evil—Team Biden Pimping Nonexistent ‘Islamophobia’ Narrative (24 Oct)

As we are all painfully aware, Joe Biden always finds a way to make any awful thing he’s done even worse. After making a trip to Israel just so he could offer to cut a check to the terrorists, Biden and his puppet masters did what they always do after Islamic terrorists murder people: they started barking “Islamophobia” like trained seals.

This is so predictable. And nauseating.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 25, 2023 8:19 am

“I acknowledge that the land has never been ceded by them.”

Over the 65 trillion years that Aborigines have been here there would have been regular displacement of one tribe or band by another through changing fortunes and vagaries of an indifferent land. Do we know if these newly seized areas were ceded by the earlier ones occupants?

bons
bons
October 25, 2023 8:21 am

“We probably should’ve given this more thought before we started,” said Lillian Ellison, a marketing executive for the company. “Surprisingly, our customer base, and society as a whole, prefers to look at people and objects that are attractive to look at. Who knew the buying public didn’t really want to look at giant fatties — er, I mean, people of size, in lingerie? You learn something new every day in the marketing business, I tell you!”

Victoria’s Secrets dumping fatty and dyke wear.

Love the marketplace.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 8:24 am

it’s mostly snapchat and instagram, about half use tiktok. In my family the next generation seem to be mostly instagram users.

Thanks – Rosie. All the news feeds those platforms provide would be the same: from curated leftist MSM sources. Instagram is owned by Facebook, which is well known for censoring righty news. Snapchat partners with lefty MSM outlets CNN and NBC for news.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 25, 2023 8:28 am

Don’t worry. Fresh from having his arse handed to him, Albo turns to his next love:

Australia will double its $A2bn fund for critical minerals projects in a bid to stamp ourselves as a world leader in the resources required for the clean energy revolution – while also reducing our reliance on China.

Anthony Albanese will use the cash boost to remind the US that it needs to work with its allies on reducing emissions, amid fears that President Joe Biden’s hundreds of billions of dollars in climate subsidies will suck investment away from Australia.

The Prime Minister was due to unveil the $A2bn expansion of the critical minerals facility in Washington DC on Tuesday (local time) at a roundtable featuring industry leaders and US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo.

The scheme, now worth $A4bn, provides loans for projects mining critical minerals such as lithium and cobalt which are needed in vast quantities to manufacture batteries, electric vehicles, solar panels and wind farms, as well as advanced military technologies.

But the world is largely reliant on China for critical minerals, sparking a rush to develop secure supply chains including in Australia.

Ms Raimondo said Australia and the US had “allowed ourselves to become vulnerable by being overly dependent on one or two countries around the world”.

“China has a head start, and that means we have to work a little bit harder and a little bit faster,” she said.

She said China had already shown a willingness to slap export restrictions on its critical minerals as a “retaliatory measure”, and warned of further consequences of its domination of the market.

“We all know that if China were to point that in a direction unfavourable to us, it could cause a great deal of pain very quickly,” Ms Raimondo said.

The government is now spending $A6bn on value-adding investments in Australian resources, with Mr Albanese saying this would “help to build supply chains with the United States and support our shared clean energy, manufacturing and defence ambitions”.

“My government is committed to transforming Australia into a renewable energy superpower, and harnessing the critical minerals we have at home is crucial to achieving this,” he said.

The Prime Minister earlier told reporters in Washington DC that he would encourage Mr Biden and his administration to work with its allies on clean energy, as their Inflation Reduction Act attracted major investments in the US including from Australian firms.

“My message is that they have an interest in a global reduction in emissions, that the United States can’t view these issues as just a nation state,” Mr Albanese said.

“The minerals that will power the globe in the 21st century are things that Australia has significant amounts of.”

The announcement is the next step in a climate, clean energy and critical minerals compact which Mr Albanese and Mr Biden signed in May. Tuesday’s roundtable was due to be the inaugural meeting of a new US-Australia task force on critical minerals.

“The road to net zero runs through Australia’s resources sector,” Resources Minister Madeleine King, who was also due to attend, said.

Later on Tuesday in Washington DC, the Prime Minister was expected to open Australia’s new embassy in the capital with US ambassador Kevin Rudd, before beginning his official visit at the White House by exchanging gifts with Mr Biden and signing the guest book.

The four-day trip will culminate in a state dinner hosted by the President, with American band The B-52s set to provide the entertainment.

Kevni gets a skerrick of love.
How does this shit above square with his China jaunt in a couple of weeks? The referendum certainly has him getting in as many trips as possible before the knife is introduced to the middle of his back.
Perhaps he should go to Africa and really see how they mine rare earth metals.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 8:29 am

How Israel plans to avoid a Russia-style tank massacre in Gaza

Israel commanders say they have learned lessons after seeing Moscow lose thousands of vehicles in the war in Ukraine

Israel’s formidable Merkava main battle tanks will be prized targets for Hamas as they advance through the streets of Gaza.

The terrorist group has already demonstrated its ability to take on the 70-ton vehicles, which experts consider among the best fighting machines in the world.

But Israel’s commanders, which will count on tactics and technology to counter Hamas, have learned lessons from the war in Ukraine, which they hope will help save almost 400 tanks from suffering the same fate as thousands of Russian vehicles lost in battle.

Israeli tanks have long patrolled the area close to the border with Gaza, frequently coming under attack from Hamas by grenades dropped from drones.

But when elements of the Islamist terror group crossed into Israel on Oct 7, they carried with them guides showing the Israeli vehicles’ weak points, such as the rear hatch and ammunition stowage, the space between the turret and the hull or the tank’s soft underbelly.

Iranian-made anti-tank weapons with special tandem warheads were used to counter the Merkava’s advanced defensive systems. Unverified footage released by Hamas showed at least two successful strikes on the latest Mark IV version of the tank.

The Hamas dossier pointed out that rocket-propelled grenades fired from ranges of less than 50 metres have the best chance of beating the Merkava’s sophisticated Trophy active protection system, which uses radars and sensors, coupled with fast-firing projectiles, to intercept incoming missiles.

Hamas’s homemade tandem rockets, which use an initial warhead used to trigger the system and a second to deliver a disabling blow, could also play a role in defeating Israel’s tanks.

A propaganda film released by Hamas before its terror attack showed off the production of these weapons in an underground facility.

Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, the former British Army commander, said it was unlikely that Israeli tanks would be used in close-quarters combat, especially in built-up urban areas in Gaza.

He said the Merkavas would be safer in a rear position and used for “long-range, precision fire”, at a range of just over a mile.

This would also help tank operators stay out of the range of Hamas’s more advanced anti-tank guided missiles.

Hamas has had apparent success in picking off single tanks, including seizing an unattended fighting machine parked at a military base, he added.

“It’ll be a completely different kettle of fish when the tanks are protected by Israeli infantry,” Mr de Bretton-Gordon said.

It is expected the Israelis would use the tanks only in a “close support” role, providing a “solid lump of metal” as infantry move through Gaza City.

But there are lessons to be learnt from Russia’s faltering invasion of Ukraine, during which Moscow’s tanks often operated on their own, without the support of air power and infantry.

Brig Gen Hisham Ibrahim, commander of Israel Defense Forces’ Armoured Corps, told the Economist: “We saw how the Russians fought in Ukraine and the mistakes they made. They fought there in a single-corps fashion, instead of using combined arms tactics.”

Mr de Bretton-Gordon said Israeli tank commanders had already taken note of the use of “500 dollar drones and 500 dollar grenades” being used to take out multi-million dollar machines.

“We’ve seen in Ukraine, very simple, imaginative ideas to take out tanks have worked, we’ve worked out how to avoid hand grenades,” he added.

Israeli tanks have already been spotted with so-called “cope cages” to defend them from small, air-dropped bombs.

The metal cages resemble the roof-mounted armour used by Russian and Ukrainian forces to prevent bombs being dropped often by small shop-bought drones through open hatches or onto weak points.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 25, 2023 8:33 am

But there are lessons to be learnt from Russia’s faltering invasion of Ukraine, during which Moscow’s tanks often operated on their own, without the support of air power and infantry.

Those lessons had already been ‘observed’, if not ‘learned’ long before the Ukraine war. Armour *cannot* operate without infantry cover, especially in built up areas, and ditto for aircover.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 8:35 am

It’s time for Parliament to re-examine our terror laws

We must respond to the menace of Islamist extremism as a matter of urgency

TELEGRAPH VIEW

For many years, and certainly since the terror attacks in London in July 2005, there have been attempts to frame laws that balance the right to free expression against the threat that such latitude poses to the security of the nation or individuals within it.

After the weekend march in London by pro-Palestinian supporters demanding the extirpation of Israel, questions are being asked once again: is the balance right or do the police need more powers?

Why was such an inflammatory march allowed to take place when it appeared to have been designed not only to support Palestine but also to intimidate Jews?

The Metropolitan Police can withhold permission for demonstrations if they think there is a risk to public order but decided not to do so. It is not a lack of power but a willingness to use it that is at issue.

Similarly, the police did not arrest people waving flags that seemed to show allegiance to Islamist organisations like Isis.

Again, they could have done so but chose not to.

They also allowed members belonging to an Islamist group called Hizb ut-Tahrir to demand a “jihad” on the specious grounds that the word could be interpreted in a number of ways.

Many people would think that it was a threat given the context, but the police decided to ignore it and have a word with the perpetrator. Once more, no new laws were required.

Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary, held talks with Sir Mark Rowley, the Met Commissioner, to discuss the way our laws are being used and whether they give the police sufficient clarity. Downing Street said that there would be no new legislation yet the interpretation of existing public order measures is clearly a problem.

Sir Mark feels that his officers responded correctly and that the protesters could not be prosecuted under existing laws.

He previously authored a review that found extremists were able to operate with “impunity” and incite hatred because of the “gaping chasm” in British legislation.

Sir Keir Starmer, the Labour leader, said there were “gaps in the law” that had to be plugged though without identifying what they were.

If the law is inadequate then the Government should bring forward proposals to address the shortcomings, and do so as a matter of urgency.

Parliament needs to deal with the menace of Islamist extremism once and for all.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 25, 2023 8:36 am

Avi:

‘We all have our jobs, and in the middle of the day if a call arises, you go and you go and respond to the call. You take time off of work and you do what’s needed,’ says a volunteer with the United Hatzalah organization.

7k volunteer paramedics join the fight to save lives on the Israel-Gaza border

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 8:45 am

How mass migration could spread the Israel-Hamas war to Europe – Paywalled

A failure to integrate migrant communities from the Middle East has led to parallel societies.

James Crisp

Germany made a “grave mistake” in throwing open its borders to so many foreigners, Henry Kissinger said, after people celebrated Hamas’ terror attack on Israel in “painful” scenes on the streets of Berlin.

The former US Secretary of State, who fled Nazi Germany when he was a 15-year-old, said the scenes were “painful” to watch.

“It was a grave mistake to let in so many people of totally different cultures and religions and concepts because it creates a pressure group inside each country,” the 100-year-old said.

Kissinger’s intervention evoked long-standing European anxieties about “parallel societies” – a term for immigrant groups insulating themselves from their host country.

Now there are fears the Israeli-Hamas war will be fought out in the streets of Europe’s capitals, as well as in the Middle East.

“When I hear Muslim religious authorities speaking the language of interreligious conflict and explicitly stating that Europe is a party to this conflict, I feel that the storm clouds are looming,” said Josep Borrell, the EU’s foreign policy chief last week.

Charles Michel, the European Council president, warned the conflict would have “major security consequences” as he convened a meeting of EU leaders to discuss the crisis. “If we are not careful, it has the potential to exacerbate tensions between communities and feed extremism,” he told the prime ministers and presidents of the 27 member states last week.

But by then the EU was already playing catch-up. Belgium and France were both at their highest terror alert following Islamist murders. In Brussels, a failed asylum seeker shot dead two Swedish nationals, while in Arras, a teacher was stabbed to death in what French President Emmanuel Macron said was the “barbarity of Islamist terrorism”.

Jewish schools were closed across Europe for fear of antisemitic terror attacks and guards were posted outside synagogues and other Jewish sites. There were bomb scares in France, including at the Louvre.

In the Netherlands, protestors burnt flags outside the Israeli embassy, and in Berlin’s Neukoelln district, which has a large Arab community, including 15,000 Palestinians, there were clashes with police. Some 65 officers were injured, despite a ban on demonstrations. There was also an arson attack at a Jewish cultural centre.

Attitudes towards migrants in Europe have hardened in the years since the 2015 migrant crisis.

The more than a million people ordered to evacuate Gaza by the Israeli Defence Forces are not welcome in the European Union.

Eurostat, the EU’s statistics agency, says Europe’s population is shrinking and ageing. It predicts the population will shrink by 27.3 million people by 2100.

But that cuts little ice in Europe, where support for hard-right, anti-immigrant parties is surging, and fiercely anti-migrant governments hold power in Hungary, Italy, Poland, Finland, Denmark and soon Slovakia.

“Europe doesn’t want to import the Middle East conflict more than it already has,” said Claude Moniquet, president of the European Strategic Intelligence and Security Centre think tank in Brussels. “And it is crystal clear that if we take more than a few hundred people, we will import the conflict.”

So what are the risks?

Germany

No other European country has taken in as many migrants as Germany, which once prided itself on its Willkommenskultur, or welcoming culture.

Former chancellor Angela Merkel decided Germany would take in more than a million refugees, most of them Syrians, during the migrant crisis in the previous decade.

In Brussels, the grand gesture was credited with saving EU free movement when member states were reinstating border controls as huge numbers crossed the Continent. The proportion of people born outside the EU in Germany has crept over 10 per cent of the population in the past decade.

About 924,000 Syrians now live in Germany, compared with about 118,000 in 2014. Integration has not always been easy. More than 600 women were sexually assaulted by migrants in the Cologne New Year attacks at the start of 2016.

Later that year, a rejected Tunisian asylum seeker drove a truck into a crowded Christmas market in Berlin, killing 12. However, Merkel’s determination that Wir schaffen es (We will manage it) also brought success.

By 2021, more than half of the asylum seekers who arrived in 2015 had jobs and paid taxes. There were more Syrian doctors in Germany than any other nationality apart from Germans.

But now German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Merkel’s successor, has disowned the policy as local authorities complain they are at breaking point. He has tightened border controls with fellow EU members after migrant arrivals in Italy surged to heights not seen since 2016.

“The number of refugees trying to get to Germany is too high at the moment,” said the centre-left chancellor, who faces falling approval ratings and a surge in support for the hard-tight Alternativ fuer Deutschland (AfD).

Fears of parallel societies are not new in Germany, where Turks make up the largest proportion (18 per cent) of the 8.3 million foreign-born residents.

The world’s largest group of Turks overseas has its roots in a 1961 Gastarbeiter (guest worker) program and is fiercely supportive of Recep Tayip Erdogan, the authoritarian Turkish president

In June, there were scenes of jubilation in German streets after Erdogan’s election, which reawakened concern about Berlin’s long-running failure to integrate the guest workers.

France

“We’re all Frenchmen and Frenchwomen, we mustn’t import this conflict,” warned Macron after hostilities broke out in the Middle East.

Muslims make up 10 per cent of the population in France, where more than 260 people have been murdered in Islamist terror attacks since 2012.

In November 2015, terrorists murdered 130 people, including 90 at the Bataclan theatre, in Paris. France’s Jews have been fleeing for Israel in droves after a string of antisemitic terror attacks.

France, which is home to Europe’s largest Jewish community, said it would ban all pro-Palestinian demonstrations after the Hamas attack on the grounds they posed a threat to public order. The decision was later overruled by a French court.

“The Palestinian cause has long been close to the heart of French Muslims, who often identify with Palestinians’ suffering through their own experiences of discrimination,” said Camille Lons, of the European Council of Foreign Relations think tank.

There are also tensions with the Muslim community over government moves to enforce French secularism, such as the ban on the veil. In June, there were days of riots after the police shooting of 17-year-old Nahel Merzouk, who was a French 17-year-old of Moroccan and Algerian descent.

Some 80 per cent of the 6.8 million Muslims in France are from former French colonies in North Africa. Of them, 43.2 per cent are from Algeria, 27.5 per cent from Morocco and 11.4 per cent from Tunisia.

Combining the 1.4 million Algerians, 1 million Moroccans and some 434,000 Tunisians is equivalent to about 4 per cent of the total French population. Until recently, they could take advantage of favourable visa conditions.

Macron is now seeking to push through a new immigration bill, France’s 29th since 1980, which will create new powers to strip foreigners of a residence permit if they fail to adhere to the values of the French Republic.

The authorities expect 140,000 asylum requests this year after 130,000 last year, when most claims came from Afghans. Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin recently put the number of illegal immigrants in France at “between 600,000 and 900,000”.

He has vowed not to accept a single migrant landing on the Italian island of Lampedusa in France. Darmanin lamented a “jihadist atmosphere” in France after the latest terrorist outrage.

Britain

The UK’s head of the Commission for Countering Extremism last week warned that pro-Palestinian demonstrations in London were stirred up by a “sophisticated” Iranian and Hamas network operating within Britain.

In a sign of how European fears are shared in the UK, a woman in Doncaster made headlines after fearfully mistaking innocent paragliders for Hamas terrorists attacking Yorkshire.

Britain has the second-largest Jewish community in Europe, numbering an estimated 300,000 people. According to the 2021 census, there are 331,844 Arabs in England and Wales.

Steve Valdez-Symonds, of Amnesty International, said, “Any serious politician had to push for integration and diversity, rather than preaching isolationism and stirring hate.” He added: “Multiculturalism is not merely a fact of society today – it has been and remains vital to centuries of economic, social and cultural enrichment.”

But Europe’s Jews are fearful after getting death threats, the chairman of the European Jewish Association had warned.

“Since the war started in Israel, the 2 million Jewish people living in Europe do not sleep at night,” Rabbi Menachem Margolin told the Telegraph.

“There are many, many thousands of people in Europe who support pro-Hamas protests, which means these are people who support terror and calls to kill the Jews,” he said

“I don’t want to be too dramatic. But I’m not sure in the circumstances the Jewish people could continue to live in Europe securely if governments do not wake up.”

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 25, 2023 8:47 am
Razey
Razey
October 25, 2023 8:51 am

Any recommendations for non-woke subscription news? I’m leaning towards the spectator…All the lame streams are dead to me.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 8:51 am

A failure to integrate migrant communities from the Middle East has led to parallel societies.

Sub-editor clearly doesn’t grasp the problem (or does but chooses to obfuscate).

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 25, 2023 8:51 am

Nice detail in the Knight cartoon- all the fashionistas are trout-mouthed clones.

MatrixTransform
October 25, 2023 8:57 am

What a state

shit-holestan

Rita nailed it.

and on a world stage,

you know things are bad when Alex Jones starts making sense.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 9:00 am

Re https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/21/israel-gaza-tank-massacre-russia/ above

Interesting to watch the 7 Min 31 Sec Video below this comment

@lost_armour guys made great job identifying and geolocating all armoured losses for september/october in Rabotino-Verbove area. You can see how Ukrainian assault progressed, and ended. @lost_armour

on https://askeptic.substack.com/p/russia-ukraine-reports-2023-10-24

I would assume Militaries of all Countries are watching these videos on Telegram & Substack sites

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 25, 2023 9:02 am
alwaysright
alwaysright
October 25, 2023 9:03 am

shit-holestan

Things will improve when the administrators are appointed. The place is near broke. I hear the sounds of a fiddle wafting out from our parliament.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 9:05 am

Razey – Newsmax, Breitbart are good but US-centric. Lucianne is a good aggregator.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 9:06 am

QLD to build 2500 EV charging stations in the regions.

2000 of them will be reserved for government vehicles.

Seems someone took note of private EV sales projections.

Dot
Dot
October 25, 2023 9:07 am

Why not just give women crowns and money and cut out the middlemen?

Keep in mind a segue for mental health leave for PTSD.

“News” from questionably profitable Gantt chart company Mundane dot com

California is establishing paid leave for reproductive loss

As of January 1, 2024, public and private employers in California will be required to offer employees up to five days of leave for a reproductive loss, which the state defines as a failed adoption, failed surrogacy, miscarriage, stillbirth, or an unsuccessful assisted reproduction. These losses are very common – with more than 25% of pregnancies resulting in miscarriage, and they trigger post-traumatic stress disorder for nearly a third of women. This new law builds on California’s Fair Employment and Housing Act, which allows employees to take up to five days of bereavement leave due to the loss of a family member. Advocates argue that this is a positive step in the right direction, but that there is still a major need for national paid family medical leave.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 25, 2023 9:09 am

Albrechtsen is the best commentator on legal issues writing in Australia today.

The fact she has so much to write about is sad.

MatrixTransform
October 25, 2023 9:09 am

The Father of Lies doing his thing, making it opposites world yet again

Hegel-ed

what do Marx and Hegel have in common?

Indolent
Indolent
October 25, 2023 9:09 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 9:10 am

According to Putin, These People Are Legit “Legitimate Military Targets”

PUTIN JUST SAID IT

While anything Putin has to say is either completely ignored or manipulated to suit the prevailing narrative of a death eater hell bent on taking over the world (aka Hitler), it is always worth listening to what he actually has to say. That, by the way, is true regardless of one’s position on anything.

Putin’s Valdai Speech: Multipolar Future Has Arrived and Russia is Here to Stay

According to Putin, globalists including Schwab and his close advisors are “legitimate military targets” because they have been actively attempting to seize power illegally via a globalist coup d’etat.”

So what this looks like to me is that Davos man has been called out and specifically identified as a threat — a “legitimate military target.

This is actually not all that surprising. Consider that Davos man controls the financial architecture (SWIFT system, Western banking cartel, for example). They are also the same clutch of Malthusianist sociopaths at the head of organisations such as the IMF, World Bank, and WHO.

Consider that they’ve been at war with Russia (eliminating them from both SWIFT and the banking systems and refusing to accept the Sputnik vaccine by the WHO).

Indolent
Indolent
October 25, 2023 9:10 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 9:11 am

Probably best if the ACT justice system plays a straight bat and pads up to anything outside off for a while yet. They can’t help themselves.

Dot
Dot
October 25, 2023 9:13 am

According to Putin, globalists including Schwab and his close advisors are “legitimate military targets” because they have been actively attempting to seize power illegally via a globalist coup d’etat.”

“I can murder people who disagree with me”

Dude is a psychopath.

Indolent
Indolent
October 25, 2023 9:13 am

To Understand Obama, You MUST Understand South Africa’s Communist Revolution

Behind the Biden “presidency,” Barack Obama looms large. But thanks to relentless media deception and propaganda, most Americans know very little about the real Obama. To truly understand him, it is essential to understand the roots of his political activism. It all begins with South Africa’s Communist revolution.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 9:14 am

Wimp Albosleezy won’t go to Israel!

French President Emmanuel Macron has traveled to Israel Tuesday, the latest Western leader to do so, where he’s meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other top officials in what’s scheduled as a two-day trip. He’s met with families of the Oct. 7 Hamas attack as well.

He arrived in Tel Aviv just after Gaza’s health ministry announced that deaths from Israeli airstrikes have soared past 5,000 killed. Just in the last 24 hours, officials said that 704 Palestinians have been killed. Additionally the ministry has warned that hospitals and medical centers are shutting down at rapid pace, with lack of resources including fuel and electricity.

Macron, while meeting Netanyahu in Jerusalem on Tuesday, conveyed that the release of the over 220 hostages held in Gaza should be the “first objective” of Israel and its allies. Macron appears to be backing Biden’s appeal for Israel to stall the ground invasion in order to provide more time for negotiations. So far, four women have been released from Hamas captivity, including two Americans from Chicago.

But Macron has also made headlines in proposing that France help provide a military solution.

He has offered that France’s counter-ISIS forces be utilized for anti-Hamas action. He said his country stands ready “to beef up what we are doing in the coalition against ISIS. We are available to include Hamas in the coalition against ISIS depending on what Israel will ask us to deliver.”

Macron said at a press conference alongside Netanyahu that terrorism is “our common enemy”. Referencing the Islamic State, he explained, “France is ready for the international coalition against Daesh in which we are taking part for operations in Iraq and Syria to also fight against Hamas.”

Indolent
Indolent
October 25, 2023 9:15 am

People are starting to wake up to the fact that their government hates them.

Poll: Majority of New Yorkers Blame Joe Biden for Migrant Crisis Damaging Communities

Rabz
October 25, 2023 9:19 am

Started watching Fauda a couple of nights ago. Highly recommended, given recent monstrous events.

Entropy
Entropy
October 25, 2023 9:22 am

Government are and will be the main buyer of EVs, followed by corporate fleets and then rich second car r main car, of course being a stonking big SUV).

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 9:22 am

Labor Blackout Bowen says Bring it on For Australia

Green Fail: Dozens of Scottish Wind Turbines Powered by Diesel Generators, Pour Hydraulic Oil Into Countryside

Scotland’s green-obsessed left-separatist government has been left with egg on its face by revelations that dozens of gigantic onshore wind turbines are having to be hooked up to diesel generators, leaking thousands of litres of hydraulic oil into the countryside.

Scottish Power — led by a Spaniard, Ignacio Galan, and actually a subsidiary of Spanish firm Iberdrola — conceded that some 71 of its turbines had to be hooked up to diesel generators to keep them warm in December, according to the Sunday Mail, with a whistleblower telling the left-leaning newspaper that problems with the turbines are deep-seated.

“During December 60 turbines at Arecleoch and 11 at Glenn App were de-energised due to a cabling fault… In order to get these turbines re-energised diesel generators were running for upwards of six hours a day,” they revealed.

“Turbines are regularly offline due to faults where they are taking energy from the grid rather than producing it, and also left operating on half power for long periods due to parts which haven’t been replaced,” they continued.

“Dirty hydraulic oil is also regularly being sprayed out across the Scottish countryside due to cracks in mechanisms. Safety standards have not improved since a worker was killed in 2017 at Kilgallioch wind farm.”

Indeed, the Record went on to say that some 4,000 litres (over 1,000 U.S. gallons) of leaking hydraulic oil was “sprayed over the countryside” by the turbines — a less than environmentally-friendly impact.

Wind turbines having issues with wind — the resource they are supposed to be able to tap for renewable energy — was far from unheard of prior to this, with other Welsh turbines lighting up like “giant Catherine wheels” after gales caused them to burst into flames in a 2014 incident, for example.

calli
calli
October 25, 2023 9:26 am

Bennett skewered that BBC chick.

She thought that talking about “hostages” (read…bargaining chips) was going to cut it as far as covering both sides. This is what the media snakes imagine is “balance” when doing a clearly hostile interview.

She avoided the atrocities of Oct 7 like the plague – it would never further her poor little Gaza narrative, in fact it would make what Israel is doing appear fair and reasonable. And restrained, because they are allowing the civilian population to leave before going through the place like a dose of salts.

And she would never touch the idea that Hamas was using those civilians on both sides as human shields and blackmail. Oh no.

The BBC is a bigger, superficially more sophisticated ABC. And there it ends. Like most “sophisticates” of an evil bent, their cruelty is more exquisite and refined but the result is the same. Promotion and protection of the killers and dismissal of the injured and innocent. And they get to cloak it in edumacated, modulated tones of self righteousness.

Rabz
October 25, 2023 9:26 am

a subsidiary of Spanish firm Iberdrola — conceded that some 71 of its turbines had to be hooked up to diesel generators to keep them warm in December

A reminder of another Spanish roonable innovation – shining spotlights on solar panels so they generated electrickery at night.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 9:26 am

While somewhat uncomfortable and utterly irrelevant in Australia, it is nice to McLaren owners will have a dealership in Perf. Not everything goes on Ranger utes and jet skis.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 25, 2023 9:29 am

Mmmyes well let’s see how the authorities handle this. Courier Mail:

World Rugby has responded to a complaint from the RFU and launched an investigation into allegations that Bongi Mbonambi called Tom Curry a “white c***” in England’s World Cup semi-final defeat by South Africa.

The Springboks, who play New Zealand in Saturday’s World Cup final in Paris, have not issued a denial of the allegation. They are cooperating with World Rugby’s investigations, via their legal team out in France. Mbonambi, meanwhile, remains in full training with the team.

Won’t do the whole article. I predict a suspension AFTER the final. Which isn’t suspension at all. Just carte blanche to do it again.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 25, 2023 9:30 am

Bushfire defenses for homes.

Perhaps something worthwhile, based on something I heard on the radio. They’ve created an app to help you assess your home for bushfire risk.

Probably teaching you how to suck eggs for the most part, but may be worthwhile for some.

https://resiliencerating.org/

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 25, 2023 9:32 am

We’re just finished watching the Hijack series, with Idris Elba in the lead.

Eminently watchable but ridiculous might sum up the plot.

Dot
Dot
October 25, 2023 9:36 am

Won’t do the whole article. I predict a suspension AFTER the final. Which isn’t suspension at all. Just carte blanche to do it again.

To be fair New Zealand has had 16 players on the field recently.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 9:37 am

Putin’s Valdai Speech: Multipolar Future Has Arrived and Russia is Here to Stay

According to Putin, globalists including Schwab and his close advisors are “legitimate military targets” because they have been actively attempting to seize power illegally via a globalist coup d’etat.”

Erm…I’ve read Putin’s Valdai speech; Klaus doesn’t get a mention, nor does the topic of assassinating globalists more generally.

Always check your primary sources, O.O.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 25, 2023 9:39 am

“It was a grave mistake to let in so many people of totally different cultures and religions and concepts because it creates a pressure group inside each country,” the 100-year-old said.

Correct, it should be perfectly clear by now that whilst multi-racial societies *can* work, they can only do so if they are mono *cultural*. I dont care if you look different to me, I do care if you have a different set of beliefs that cause conflict with me.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 25, 2023 9:40 am

As of January 1, 2024, public and private employers in California will be required to offer employees up to five days of leave for a reproductive loss, which the state defines as a failed adoption, failed surrogacy, miscarriage, stillbirth, or an unsuccessful assisted reproduction.

I presume gender ‘reassignment’ surgery will also count as ‘reproductive loss’?

Dot
Dot
October 25, 2023 9:44 am

Erm…I’ve read Putin’s Valdai speech; Klaus doesn’t get a mention, nor does the topic of assassinating globalists more generally.

Right. So the Zero Hedge weirdo has wet dreams about murdering people who disagree with him.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 25, 2023 9:46 am

BB at 9:29.
There is another option which left-leaning institutions go to when confronted with situations like this.
That is, asserting that, due to generational trauma and continuing racial inequities, it is not possible for a blek person to be racist to a white person.

Frank
Frank
October 25, 2023 9:46 am

“I can murder people who disagree with me”

Dude is a psychopath.

Yes he is. In all likelihood so is Schwab, as for his Israeli sidekick that wants to depopulate the planet. If not psychopaths then definitely something else from the cluster B menu.

Kneel
Kneel
October 25, 2023 9:52 am

“Precautionary principle – the climate Chicken Little’s attempt to sound scientific.”

Apply it to itself – it says it shouldn’t be used.
Oops…

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 25, 2023 9:52 am

Dan may have gone, but Danistan remains:

A rock climber was threatened with a $346,000 fine under cultural heritage laws after visiting one of Australia’s most iconic destinations.

The visitor was left stunned after receiving a letter following their visit to the Grampians National Park, in Victoria, on October 18.

Victoria’s First Peoples-State Relations unit is reportedly monitoring climbers and other visitors after rock climbing in the area was banned in 2019.

The ban was introduced in a bid to protect Indigenous heritage – including rock art that is so worn down it can only be viewed through special X-ray glasses.

A rock climber’s home was visited twice by a First Peoples unit investigator who claimed a vehicle registered in their name was connected with cultural heritage breaches.

Investigator Adam Green, who works within the Department of Premier and Cabinet, left a letter at the climber’s property after visiting twice.

Daily Mail

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 9:53 am

I dont care if you look different to me, I do care if you have a different set of beliefs that cause conflict with me. want to kill me.

Dot
Dot
October 25, 2023 9:54 am

Duk

Mensies leave
Repro loss leave
Transitioning leave
Unpaid maternity leave
Repro loss PTSD leave
Family medical leave
Bereavement leave
Paid maternity leave
Annual leave
Personal leave
Public holidays

Considering we have gender quotas, this means we are already paying a Bachelor Tax. Smart women can absolutely game this.

I predict a gender based subsidy in superannuation. The issue continues to be pushed; despite generous state supplemental income for retirees (largely paid for by men) and spousal inheritance, although these important factors are conveniently ignored.

Leave arrangements are more of a threat to successful HRM than WFH could ever be.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 9:55 am

Victoria’s First Peoples-State Relations unit

The Abo-Stasi.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 9:57 am

A rock climber’s home was visited twice by a First Peoples unit investigator who claimed a vehicle registered in their name was connected with cultural heritage breaches.

Good luck proving that in a court of law.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 25, 2023 9:57 am

In Timing is Everything news:

‘Bolster power of culture police’, says Victorian Aboriginal Heritage Council
Indigenous cultural investigators should be able to enter properties without the owner’s permission under recommendations to the Victorian government.

[unlinkable OZ]

Indigenous cultural investigators should be free to enter private properties such as farms and houses in Victoria without the owner’s or renter’s permission, under reforms sought by the peak First Nations heritage body.

The Victorian Aboriginal Heritage Council warned in a pre-election legislative review that staff investigating alleged cultural heritage breaches had too little power to properly determine what has happened.

The council said the law should be toughened so that officers can enter land or premises without the consent of the occupier, which would also mean investigators could walk on to farms or other land if the owner was away.

The example used by the VAHC – an agency of Victoria’s Department of Premier and Cabinet – was of the remains of an Indigenous person that might be being kept in a shed but never retrieved under current law because entry was contingent on the occupier’s approval.

I’m not 100% sure that keeping human remains in your shed is a widespread practice in Victoria, although I can be told otherwise.

But in Queensland it would be classified as ‘interfering with human remains’ and a police matter.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 9:58 am

Australian Labor Weasel AlboSleezy Strikes Again – Backbone of Jelly

Albanese cool on French call for international coalition to fight Hamas

His comments came after French President Emmanuel Macron raised the idea of extending an international coalition that is fighting Islamic State in Iraq and Syria and turning it against the Palestinian terrorist group in Gaza.

Macron made the remarks while standing alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem but gave no details of the way the coalition might work.

While Australia is a member of the international coalition against IS, Albanese responded with caution when asked about the French proposal at a press conference in front of the White House during his four-day visit to the US capital.

“It is important, and certainly we agree with the United States,(As AnalAlbo bends over) that it’s important that we avoid spillover on this issue, which would be bad for Israel, bad for the region,” Albanese said.

“We want to see the people of Gaza have access to water and essentials. It’s really important that innocent civilians be provided with that support. And our priority as well is providing support for Australians who are wanting to leave.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 25, 2023 9:59 am

Indigenous cultural investigators should be free to enter private properties such as farms and houses in Victoria without the owner’s or renter’s permission, under reforms sought by the peak First Nations heritage body.

“Reconciliation?” What’s that?

Frank
Frank
October 25, 2023 10:00 am

Victoria’s First Peoples-State Relations unit

Wonder if they get issued with warrants before they do a house visit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 25, 2023 10:01 am

Top Ender

Oct 25, 2023 9:32 AM

We’re just finished watching the Hijack series, with Idris Elba in the lead.

Eminently watchable but ridiculous might sum up the plot.

Agreed.
It’s almost as if someone wrote a hijack drama, and the producers it was pitched to baulked at the general identity of the hijackers as portrayed.
So, instead of the hijackers being the usual suspects, they became (ahem) part-time bovver boys drug dealers who [no spoiler alerts, thank you].

Dot
Dot
October 25, 2023 10:01 am

Good luck proving that in a court of law.

In the alternative, good luck proving your innocence. Those songlines can be anywhere, even 250 nm offshore, from a headland you live 1000 km away from.

Frank
Frank
October 25, 2023 10:02 am

I’m not 100% sure that keeping human remains in your shed is a widespread practice in Victoria, although I can be told otherwise.

More of a South Australian thing.

Morsie
Morsie
October 25, 2023 10:03 am

Canberra just get rid of it.Jumped up local council with officials who think they are first rate.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 10:08 am

In the alternative, good luck proving your innocence.

I really don’t understand the fuss.

In northern Australia the locals just touch the rock art up when it begins to fade.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 10:09 am

Roger
Oct 25, 2023 9:37 AM

Putin’s Valdai Speech: Multipolar Future Has Arrived and Russia is Here to Stay

According to Putin, globalists including Schwab and his close advisors are “legitimate military targets” because they have been actively attempting to seize power illegally via a globalist coup d’etat.”

Erm…I’ve read Putin’s Valdai speech; Klaus doesn’t get a mention, nor does the topic of assassinating globalists more generally.

WATCH AND READ IN FULL: Putin’s Valdai Discussion Club speech

The Russian president addressed a number of key issues including Ukraine, sanctions, Western hegemony, and Russia’s role on the international stage

Always check your primary sources, OO

Roger,

Correct – Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa

Kneel
Kneel
October 25, 2023 10:13 am

“She says telling people that masks don’t work would just confuse them.”

Well, of course it would – they spent months telling us we’d kill grandma if we didn’t wear them and even fining you if you didn’t. That, it turns out, was a lie, as the largest and best study to date on the matter confirms. \
But if you tell the plebs that, they might not believe you next time… or so they think. For me, since you refuse to tell the truth so you don’t “confuse” me, I don’t trust you – period.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 10:15 am

Indigenous cultural investigators should be free to enter private properties such as farms and houses in Victoria without the owner’s or renter’s permission, under reforms sought by the peak First Nations heritage body.

Would not sit well against the permit system already required to enter parts of Outback Australia. Perhaps we already have a multi class citizenry?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 10:16 am

They’ve gotta be joking. – Labor Lindy Burney of Little Brain proves that Statement

From the Comments

– When the hell is this old biddy going to sober up and realise she talks a lot of shit ?

– The new dreamtime?

– Labor, being LIARS, are actually doing the OPPOSITE of what they are fraudulently claiming to do in every single one of those 10 items of utter bullshit!

Linda Burney couldn’t even persuade her own electorate nor genuine aboriginal Australians to vote “Yes” for A.L.P. Division, Racism and Apartheid.

What a waste of a Parliamentary salary.

– In a perfect Labor lefty utopia, that is what they reckon they would/could do…here in reality, they are not even close.

We just blew $400 million on an ego trip for the idiot in charge, that he has now cleverly managed to let the aboriginal activists and associated hangers on turn into a racist rant that will go on for the foreseeable future, as they could smell the money and the power…

Oh…and Linda, it looks like the boats have started up again. Is Bowen that busy with wrecking the energy grid…any chance he could have a look at the problem ?

– What plan? said…

That appears to be 10 aspirational statements.

There is no plan behind any of the statements.

1. What electricity bill relief? Are prices coming down or going up? Where is the $275 rebate promised.

2. Is childcare cheaper.

3. Who is getting rent assistance?

As you unpack each of these 10 points they’re invariable a farrago of lies and falsehoods.

Labor lied to win in 2022.

Looks like they are going to lie to win the next election.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 25, 2023 10:16 am

Han’s smashed it out of the park!

Man of Steel – Ultimate Soundtrack Suite

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 10:17 am

More of a South Australian thing.

Like chucking pooftas in the Torrens?

bons
bons
October 25, 2023 10:21 am

I gave up my Speccie subscription, not because it was offensive, but rather because it offers little in the way of actual news and, its always well written commentaries simply massaged my existing biases.

It is very often a case of “yeah, I know that”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 10:25 am

Yet Again this is what Labor PM AlboSleezy, Labor MPs, Greens, Some TEALS & Clover Moore support

‘Eyes were gouged out, a woman’s breasts cut off and a daughter had her legs severed’: Horrific details of Hamas massacre emerge as rescue worker recounts how entire families were slaughtered

Rescue worker Moshe Melayev told how families were slaughtered in homes
*** WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT ***

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 25, 2023 10:26 am

https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/the-myth-of-65-thousand-years-the-genetic-dna-of-aboriginals

Interesting reading.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 25, 2023 10:31 am

Indigenous cultural investigators should be free to enter private properties such as farms and houses in Victoria without the owner’s or renter’s permission, under reforms sought by the peak First Nations heritage body.

So much easier for the authorities now that took our guns away. Who woulda thunk government would abuse their position.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 10:33 am

That appears to be 10 aspirational statements.

There is no plan behind any of the statements.

I give you Palaszczuk after the referendum loss:

‘We need to get back to talking about cost of living.’

Merely talking about it doesn’t help anyone, Anna. Although we understand your union masters wouldn’t allow you to do anything about it, even if you or your federal colleagues had a clue as to what that might be.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 10:36 am

As you unpack each of these 10 points they’re invariable a farrago of lies and falsehoods.

Labor lied to win in 2022.

Looks like they are going to lie to win the next election.

The Liars will lie at the next election. I’m not sure they will win it though.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 10:37 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Oct 25, 2023 10:26 AM

https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/the-myth-of-65-thousand-years-the-genetic-dna-of-aboriginals

Interesting reading.

In the lead up to the Voice Referendum of 14 Oct 2023, one would have been hard pressed to have escaped the constant repetition of the statement that the Australian Aborigines have been in Australia for 60 thousand or 65 thousand years.

This would suggest that Aboriginals themselves do not know the year they came to Australia, but instead rely on Western science to answer the question.

Razey
Razey
October 25, 2023 10:37 am

Fair Shake
Oct 25, 2023 10:31 AM
Indigenous cultural investigators should be free to enter private properties such as farms and houses in Victoria without the owner’s or renter’s permission, under reforms sought by the peak First Nations heritage body.

So much easier for the authorities now that took our guns away. Who woulda thunk government would abuse their position.

Step by step they are eliminating the idea of private property. We are clearly entering the end game. Isnt this obvious by now?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 10:40 am

Ah Jim, mate, never change.

Economic plan to help Aussies in face of global volatility (Paywallian)
JIM CHALMERS

Our highest priority remains the persistent inflationary pressures that are coming at us from around the globe and putting a strain on people here at home.

Pigs might fly too. Telling porkies like that too much and you won’t be able to show your face anywhere near Canterbury-Bankstown LCA.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 10:40 am

The Chook is sounding more like a post-menopausal Joe Bjeke-Petersen every day.

shatterzzz
October 25, 2023 10:42 am

The chap concerned about the 77 Oz folk in Gaza .. shame she doesn’t show the same attitude for the rest of us ……!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-25/extra-adf-personnel-sent-to-middle-east/103018022

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 10:45 am

There aren’t ‘newsfeeds’ in instagram, it’s photos and videos with captions.
People select who they follow, I’m not convinced news channels play a major role.
Not in my occasional forays there.
You are desperately trying to prop up a comment about a survey of limited validity because it was taken before the extent of hamas atrocities were widely known.
I will acknowledge that over the years hamas propaganda has been wildly successful.
‘Israel is an apartheid state’
Gaza is an open air concentration camp’etc etc.
Gaza is an open air prison but the gaolers are hamas, not Israel.
I always say imagine living next door to someone who periodically fires rockets at your home, would kill you or hold you hostage should you be foolish enough to step over the fence line while incessantly whinnying at anyone who would listen, about how mean you are.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 10:46 am

‘Some of the audience whispered ”make it stop”. I leaned against a wall and cried’: Journalists who watched Israeli compilation of Hamas terror footage – including a young girl shot dead as she hid under a desk – reveal how it left them horrified

. Journalists told how their colleagues were left weeping – or retching – at footage
. They saw clip after clip of civilians being shot, stabbed, tortured and burned

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 25, 2023 10:50 am

Torrens isn’t deep enough Bear, it is Adelaide.

Johnny Rotten
October 25, 2023 10:50 am

Mark Bolton
Oct 25, 2023 12:57 AM
@Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare …

Might I ask … with the greatest of respect … is it just your good self and I that are shameless enough enough to use our real names? After all this is how we approach Life …Face to Face …

Interesting, as when you are born you don’t get to choose your own name. Others do it for you. Of course, you can change the name by Deed Poll afterwards, once you are of legal age.

However, on here you can choose your own name.

Sounds better to me.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 25, 2023 10:50 am

Further to Shatterzz’ comment

Speaking to Sky News Australia on Wednesday, Mr Marles elaborated on the plans.
“We are not saying we are in the Middle East for security reasons,” he said.
“The point of this is to support Australian populations that are in the Middle East and it is really a contingency.

Mmm, yes. Because when the Aus Gov wants to “support” a handful of its citizens in the Middle East, it sends a contingent of ADF and two aeroplanes.

Evidently, expectations of a broader regional conflict are quite high.

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2023 10:51 am

Indigenous cultural investigators should be free to enter private properties such as farms and houses in Victoria without the owner’s or renter’s permission, under reforms sought by the peak First Nations heritage body.

This doesn’t surprise me at all, they are already patrolling public works, public parks etc.
Unlike every other arm of government though, there is no due process, no negotiation, no scrutiny of charges, no avenues of appeal, or even a mechanism to complain about their behaviour.
A law unto themselves.
Which they wanted enshrined in the Australian Constitution.
One of the most bizarre demands was that the change to the Australian Constitution should have been voted on only by aboriginal people.

shatterzzz
October 25, 2023 10:52 am

A pleasant surprise in my email box this morning .. Latest 3 monthly electricity bill from AGL .. amount due $32.60 .. the 1st of my 4 x $125 federal rebates came thru alongside my, usual, OAP rebates ……….
last time I saw that sort of total due was back in the 1990s ..!
Gas won’t change, of course, and with the 3rd installment they’ll be able to claim they’ve covered, fully, that pie-in-the-sky $265 hoax ……..

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 10:54 am

These people just keep on hanging around like bad smells.

Arab powers must help shape Gaza’s future (Oz, 24 Oct, not paywalled)
By WILLIAM HAGUE

It’s otherworldly. You can read it if you like, but the only shape Gaza will be in is flat. The rubble bulldozed into a salted plain with nothing growing on it except wretched tents.

Indolent
Indolent
October 25, 2023 10:56 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 10:58 am

Starving Gazans ‘are going to start killing each other over food’, desperate residents warn as Israel pounds Hamas and Hezbollah in wave of new airstrikes

. Gaza residents warn of horrendous conditions under siege and bombardment
. But Israel refuses to end incessant bombing campaigns to ‘dismantle’ Hamas

Comments not kind to Gazans

– Well why isn’t Egypt letting more in?

– Or, they could just surrender.

– Thought they were told to get out? Why didn’t they?

– Just give the hostages back!

Stop the rockets too.

And surrender.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 25, 2023 10:59 am

I don’t know what survey was being talked about, that isn’t the point I want to make.

rosie, Oct 25, 2023 10:45 AM

There aren’t ‘newsfeeds’ in instagram, it’s photos and videos with captions.

rosie is absolutely brainwashed. If it isn’t part of the authorised MSM it’s not news, apparently.
That “photos and videos with captions” describes TV news too. I would think with less filtering between the producers and the consumers there is plenty of potential for social media to be another source of news about recent events.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 25, 2023 11:03 am

In Chookhouse news:

New laws to enshrine Queensland’s exit from coal-fired power
[unlinkable OZ]

Annastacia Palaszczuk’s plan to dump coal-fired power by 2035 and reach a new renewables target of 80 per cent will be locked-in under laws introduced to state parliament on Tuesday.

Draft laws mandate public ownership of energy assets does not drop below 54 per cent and guarantees jobs for 900 workers at government-owned coal fired power stations during the transition to renewables.

The state’s $62bn energy plan, which Ms Palaszczuk has said is “concrete”, relies heavily on the proposed Pioneer-Burdekin Pumped Hydro project, which has not yet been subjected to detailed engineering and environmental investigations.

So, soundly based?

Government modelling of alternate options if Pioneer-Burdekin is not approved, includes battery storage which Energy Minister Mick de Brenni has said “presents a prohibitive cost and technology barrier”.

If the generation pipe dream fails, consider pipe dream storage. Obviously soundly based.

So, is this simply a landmine planted ahead of next year’s election?

“Those opposite are silent when it comes to what they are going to do when it comes to renewable energy, that test is coming,” she said.

“They will have the opportunity to vote on our plan when it is legislated in this Queensland parliament.”

Why, yes. Yes it is.

And will Team Chrisafulli stamp on it?

LNP Energy spokesman Pat Weir said the party had not decided whether it would vote in favour of the draft laws, and would make a decision after it is investigated by a parliamentary committee.

Probably.

For a great country, Australia is in a bad place governance-wise. Like turds in a swimming pool, the very worst and least desirable people bob to the top.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 11:05 am

…there is no due process, no negotiation, no scrutiny of charges, no avenues of appeal, or even a mechanism to complain about their behaviour.

Even Stalin held show trials.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 25, 2023 11:08 am

Dr F at 9:57.

I’m not 100% sure that keeping human remains in your shed is a widespread practice in Victoria, although I can be told otherwise.

Correct.
That is more of an Adelaide thing, really.

But in Queensland it would be classified as ‘interfering with human remains’ and a police matter.

Yes.
Find the most egregious example you can think of – for which, incidentally, there is already a legal remedy in place – and use it to justify state sanctioned burglary based on Aunty Betty’s hazy memories of stolen artifacts.

bons
bons
October 25, 2023 11:09 am

Following the comments I went back and looked again at Knight’s cartoon.

Yep, his depiction of vultures row at the fashion show is award worthy. In my view the best for the year.

Tip Mr Knight. Do not venture into South Yarra or Double Bay without robust protection. And, never answer any calls labelled Spender.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 11:09 am

…the proposed Pioneer-Burdekin Pumped Hydro project, which has not yet been subjected to detailed engineering and environmental investigations.

Not to mention the indigenous cultural survey.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 11:10 am

Rosie – As I said Facebook owns Instagram, and Facebook has been suppressing righty news for a long time. It is widely known in the conservative blogosphere.

People may use Instagram for various things. But if they access news sources I suspect they’ll have a lot of difficulty in finding links to sites like Breitbart. Google and Bing certainly suppress such links, and links to other righty sources.

And as I said Snapchat partners with CNN and NBC. That’s in the wiki.

A certain Mr Goebbels would be in awe of the propaganda edifice that the Left now has at its fingertips.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 25, 2023 11:12 am

I see Frank and Bear have beaten me to it with the Bodies in Barrels jokes.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 11:13 am

LNP Energy spokesman Pat Weir said the party had not decided whether it would vote in favour of the draft laws, and would make a decision after it is investigated by a parliamentary committee.

They might want to consult with the former head of QLD’s poles & wires agency, now a professor at QUT, I believe.

He labelled the Pioneer-Burdekin pumped hydro proposal “illogical.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 11:13 am

Torrens isn’t deep enough Bear, it is Adelaide.

It’s the thought that counts.

Kneel
Kneel
October 25, 2023 11:15 am

” I don’t think people realise that what happened on October 7 2023 was a full blown invasion of southern Israel.”

No Cassie, not an invasion, a premeditated slaughter of the unarmed, the old, women and children.

I am one of the most tolerant and patient people you will ever meet, but the actions of these… things is beyond the pale – so far beyond it, you can’t even see it from where they are.

These demons only understand death – and we should give it to them.

The only thing the rest of the civilised world needs to do is to stay out of the way and let Israel do what it must, while at the same time letting the Muslim world know that this sort of thing will not be tolerated, and you will not be allowed to prevent Israeli extermination of Hamas vermin – and if you try, you too will be taken back to the stone age and shown no mercy.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 25, 2023 11:17 am

I see Frank and Bear have beaten me to it with the Bodies in Barrels jokes.

You have to get up pretty early in the afternoon to beat Frank and Bear.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 11:17 am

If The Chook abandons coal the NEM is finished.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 25, 2023 11:18 am

Another Labor Party Appeaser Senator Penny Wong of Hamas Thugs & Atrocities

From shatterzzz
Oct 25, 2023 10:42 AM

The chap concerned about the 77 Oz folk in Gaza .. shame she doesn’t show the same attitude for the rest of us ……!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-25/extra-adf-personnel-sent-to-middle-east/103018022

Wong calls for ‘humanitarian pause’

Senator Wong described the humanitarian situation in Gaza as “dire” and said that “human suffering was widespread”.

Gaza’s health ministry said at least 5,791 Palestinians have been killed since the fighting began, including 2,360 children. A total of 704 were killed in the previous 24 hours alone, it said.

In Israel, authorities report a death toll of 1,400, mostly from the attack by Hamas militants on October 7.

The senator called for humanitarian pauses on hostilities, which she said included ensuring supplies food, water, medicine and other essentials such as safe passage for civilians.

In a change of language from recent weeks, Senator Wong said that while Israel exercises its right to defend itself, the way in which it does so matters to “civilians throughout the region.”

She added: “Innocent Palestinian civilians should not suffer because of the outrages perpetrated by Hamas.”

“Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people and undermines the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people,” the statement read.

Let me see Labor Senator Penny Wong

Your Labor Voting Palestinians here in Australia call for Destruction of the Jews

The Palestinian People voted Hamas into power in 2005

They are not “Innocent Palestinian civilians” – they shout with joy “Kill the Jews – Teach Pure Hatred to their Children, Rain Rockets down on Israel – the Egyptians & Jordan, nor any other Arab Country do not want Palestinians – Why are they “Innocent” – Look at the Barbarity & Savageness of Palestinian Hamas supported by the Gazan People

You & The Australian Labor Party are supporters of People who have shown themselves to be Outright Babaric Savages – They deserve No Mercy

P
P
October 25, 2023 11:19 am

The “humanitarian” fallacy
Melanie Phillips – Oct 25, 2023
Pressure on Israel to allow aid into Gaza is pressure to allow aid to Hamas

Gaza is ruled by Hamas. Hamas is not some benign civil authority. It is despotic, oppressive and corrupt. Nothing happens in Gaza that is not under its tyrannical thumb. That goes for aid supplies.
.

With Hamas still committing war crimes daily by firing barrages of rockets to murder Israeli civilians, the Biden administration, the BBC and others demanding that Israel continue to provide aid to Gaza are in reality demanding that Israel continue to provide assistance to Hamas so that it can continue to commit such war crimes.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 11:22 am

If The Chook abandons coal the NEM is finished.

You’d think this would have dawned on southern Premiers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 11:26 am

And just as I wrote that, up comes another unpaywalled Paywallian article…

Dozens of US states sue Meta over harm to children (Oz, 25 Oct)

Dozens of US states on Tuesday accused Facebook and Instagram owner Meta of profiting “from children’s pain,” damaging their mental health and misleading people about the safety of its platforms.

“In seeking to maximize its financial gains, Meta has repeatedly misled the public about the substantial dangers of its Social Media Platforms,” argued a joint lawsuit filed in federal court in California.

In total more than 40 states are suing Meta, though some opted to file in local courts rather than join in the federal case.

Meta has exploited young users by creating a business model designed to maximize time they spend on the platform despite harm to their health, the legal filing argued.

“Kids and teenagers are suffering from record levels of poor mental health and social media companies like Meta are to blame,” said New York Attorney General Letitia James in a statement announcing the suit.

This is Facechook and Insta being attacked from the Left. I don’t know why that is the case, since Meta is as lefty as you can get. Smells like a standover attempt, since NYC is skint and Zuck has lots and lots of yummy money. Still the article is relevant since we were talking about young people using those apps.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 25, 2023 11:27 am

Roger

Oct 25, 2023 9:57 AM

A rock climber’s home was visited twice by a First Peoples unit investigator who claimed a vehicle registered in their name was connected with cultural heritage breaches.

Good luck proving that in a court of law.

I just had an ‘orrible thought.
The Victorian “mob” are trying to extend the parallel Koori justice system, ostensibly to keep Aboriginal offenders out of jail.
It wouldn’t be a stretch to imagine this parallel system being given jurisdiction over these cultural heritage matters, whether the alleged offender is black or white, with ASADA style powers of interrogation, reverse onus of proof and no right to remain silent.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 25, 2023 11:29 am

H B Bear
Oct 25, 2023 11:17 AM

If The Chook abandons coal the NEM is finished.

You better believe it.
Lights out after the Brisbane Olympics.
Australia is now on an almost* irreversible trajectory to have no reliable electricity supply by 2034. Eraring gorne; Bayswater gorne; the four big Queensland units gorne.

* At least irreversible without paying away a massive ‘panic’ premium – and even then, provided governments wake up to their strategic failures inside the next two years.

Johnny Rotten
October 25, 2023 11:36 am

1. The NBN designed on the back of a Beer Coaster by the Laybore Wally with the red underpants on his head while flying high at 30,000 feet (could be a coke head) – Cost? – At least 50 Billion South Pacific Pesos. Value now? Net Zero. LOL.

2. SnowJob 2.0 thought up in a Cooma Pub – Picked up by Maladjusted TurnBullShit – Estimated Cost? – 2 Billion South Pacific Pesos – Cost now? 12 Billion South Pacific Pesos and rising by the nanosecond.

Just a couple of examples of OZ Guv’ments using your Tax Money (and borrowed money) for “Nashion Building”. FFS.

They could not do a Snowy One now or build a Sydney Harbour Bridge.

They could not even organise a Piss Up in a Brewery.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 25, 2023 11:37 am

You better believe it.

It is already far too late to avoid power shortages.
How long does it take a state gubmint to plan a new power station?
How long before work begins?
What is the backorder wait time for turbines (newk or coal)?
and so on

Expect the lights to come back on some time around 2090.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 11:43 am

Lights out after the Brisbane Olympics.

Possibly sooner, given the way they’re managing the existing system.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 25, 2023 11:43 am

A rock climber’s home was visited twice by a First Peoples unit investigator who claimed a vehicle registered in their name was connected with cultural heritage breaches.

Good luck proving that in a court of law.

No doubt the ‘law’ is written in terms where the offence is to be the *registered owner* of the vehicle which was detected blah blah blah….

As such, the prosecution does not *have* to prove you committed the deed, and furthermore, proving you didnt is irrelevant. If that sounds crazy, check out the speed camera laws….

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 25, 2023 11:47 am

Yep duk, plenty of examples of that. We’re along way away from the common law principles of criminal conduct.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 25, 2023 11:48 am

For me, since you refuse to tell the truth so you don’t “confuse” me, I don’t trust you – period.

aka: ‘Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus’

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 11:50 am

Oops, the ASX just went off a cliff at 11.30am because of…

Inflation up in September quarter amid high petrol prices (Oz, paywalled)

Rising petrol prices have helped drive a reacceleration in inflation in the September quarter to 1.2 per cent.

Maybe if Bowen would approve more oil and gas exploration and development the price of these essential fuels wouldn’t be so high.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 25, 2023 11:53 am

People here think they have read the worst hot take on Gaza/hamarse..

I laugh at their petty pretensions and present them this faecal based brain nugget.

Israel must stop weaponising the Holocaust
Raz Segal

There are many other such expressions by Israeli politicians and senior army officers in the last few weeks. The fantasy of “fighting Nazis” drives such explicit language, because the image of Nazis is one of “pure, unadulterated evil”, which removes all laws and restrictions in the fight against it. Perpetrators of genocide always see their victims as evil and themselves as righteous. This is, indeed, how Nazis saw Jews.

See Jews are the real nazis all along!!!!

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 25, 2023 11:54 am

Annastacia Palaszczuk’s plan to dump coal-fired power by 2035 and reach a new renewables target of 80 per cent will be locked-in under laws introduced to state parliament on Tuesday.

Amateurs! they need to publicly blow up the coal stations as well, a sort of ‘burn your boats’ moment – eh SA?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 25, 2023 11:57 am

A point to consider.
Less than a week after being willing dupes of Hamarse over the hospital totaldevestationhundredskilledIsraelimissile hoax major papers are using Pallywood supplied civilian casualty figures for their headlines.

Johnny Rotten
October 25, 2023 11:57 am

dover0beach
Oct 25, 2023 11:37 AM
New OT up at midday.

Only a few minutes to go people.

Razey
Razey
October 25, 2023 11:57 am

LOL. Coming from the very Arnold Schwarzenegger that said ‘f8k your freedom’ during the plandemic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYn5t0tuuAk

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 25, 2023 11:59 am

It is already far too late to avoid power shortages.
How long does it take a state gubmint to plan a new power station?

Certainly too late for a new build.
The last one, Kogan Creek, took about 10 years – planning through procurement and construction (and that was off a pre approved site). With cluebat lag time and lawfare – extend that by at least 5 years.

The most realistic option now is for governments to pay AGL and Origin for the big refurbishments plus ‘offer that can’t be refused’ to keep Eraring and Bayswater licensed and running.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2023 12:00 pm

Amateurs! they need to publicly blow up the coal stations as well, a sort of ‘burn your boats’ moment – eh SA?

Meanwhile the Germans are turning their mothballs plants back on.

Germany Restarts Coal-Fired Generation to Support Winter Power Supply (5 Oct)

Kinda hard to do that in an emergency if you have blown them up.

Roger
Roger
October 25, 2023 12:00 pm

No doubt the ‘law’ is written in terms where the offence is to be the *registered owner* of the vehicle which was detected…

I realise we’re talking Victoria here, but as I understand it it’s not yet illegal to drive into and park one’s vehicle in a car park in the Grampians.

The fact that the cultural police – or whatever they’re called – have issued a threat rather than a fine tells me they also know this.

Razey
Razey
October 25, 2023 12:01 pm

flyingduk
Oct 25, 2023 11:54 AM
Annastacia Palaszczuk’s plan to dump coal-fired power by 2035 and reach a new renewables target of 80 per cent will be locked-in under laws introduced to state parliament on Tuesday.

Amateurs! they need to publicly blow up the coal stations as well, a sort of ‘burn your boats’ moment – eh SA?

Laws can and will be repealed.

Kneel
Kneel
October 25, 2023 12:39 pm

“Except most young people aren’t getting their news from the MSM.”

No, they are getting it from social media.
There, the algorithm “viralises” the most extreme content, because the money is in clicks, and the more extreme the more clicks.
For the same reason most of these people think 10’s of thousands of unarmed black men are shot by police in the USA every year (the real number is closer to 10 than 30!) – that is what they have seen on social media for years. That’s all they have seen, because the refutation is boring and non-viral content.
It doesn’t help that TikTok (run by the CCP) encourages this in the rest of the world, but does the exact opposite in China – there, TikTok content is “moderated” and very “patriotic” and learning based.
It’s 5th generation warfare (information war), and the young in the west are the target – why go “kinetic” against the enemy, when you can undermine it from the inside without anyone even noticing?

Dino Saur
Dino Saur
October 25, 2023 2:22 pm

“Gaza is ruled by Hamas. Hamas is not some benign civil authority. It is despotic, oppressive and corrupt. Nothing happens in Gaza that is not under its tyrannical thumb. That goes for aid supplies.”

If they couldn’t keep their own people in a state of powerless, victimhood, fear and poverty, then they would have no power and no mansions (or London City housing). They must keep the population as fearful of them as they are of Israel. Fearful people are easier to manipulate (look at the “scares” all around us).

Rococo Liberal
Rococo Liberal
October 28, 2023 9:19 pm

“What’s lagging is the Russian defence. Russia is losing trench warfare and losing ground around Kherson (Dnipro right bank) to a country with a population 1/4 that of Russia’s.

The Ukrainians ostensibly support Zelensky. He won a non-rigged election as a third-party candidate. Russia hasn’t had a fair election since???

Putin had an aborted coup thrown at him. Russia is losing over 1,000 soldiers a day as KIA & wounded casualties. That’s like the WWI Western Front.”

11 stupid cunts on a right wing site downvoted this? What a disgrace. Russia is a fascist left wing state, you arseholes acting totally without any justification. Yes, the Biden admin is is a steaming pile of ordure and has not covered itself in glory in Ukraine. But supporting Vlad the baby stealer just because he’s fighting a country supported by Biden is the height of idiocy.

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  3. Appalling to see my old Alma Mater brought down to such a low. Mark Scott was a disastrous apoointment.

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