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feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:16 pm

There is no reason for Albo to go to Israel.
Diplomatic support giving Israel the green light to clean the chronometers of Hamas (h/t Star Trek) is all that Albo needs to do.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 5:16 pm

Johnny Rotten
Oct 23, 2023 4:12 PM
And you have now been unequivocally told that it is not a mandatory field here.
What is your cut, Wodney?

So I will remove the weblink

Removed it?
Was it something we said?
Have you removed all history from the Innernets?
Have you told Marty?

Speedbox
October 23, 2023 5:16 pm

Another ASX battering. All Ords down 59.7 (-.80%) to 7030. ASX/S&P 200 down 56.9 to 6844.

On the plus side, think of it as offering up a few (relative) bargains – although I don’t think the slide is over yet.

Vicki
Vicki
October 23, 2023 5:19 pm

I understand that the editor of Quadrant shut down comments on the Israeli/Palestine issue, since one particular contributor apparently crossed the boundary of “free speech”.

From my reading of articles in today’s Australian Spectator, it should seem that this publication is facing the same problem. It is one thing to enter into a deeply heated argument – and this happens almost every day on the Cat – it is another to cross the border of decency in the disputed ground of anti-Semitism.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 5:20 pm

I love the exacting odds, but it’s probably right.

70% chance Israel-Hamas war spreads beyond Gaza, threatening oil, strategist warns

‘Odds of war with Hezbollah are underrated,’ says BCA Research

The Israel-Hamas war has a more than 50% chance of drawing in militant groups from Lebanon or Syria, or producing a direct conflict with Iran — creating more oil disruptions than financial markets currently think.

That’s the view of Matt Gertken, chief geopolitical strategist for Montreal-based BCA Research. He sees a 70% chance of the conflict expanding beyond Gaza in the next 12 months.

Strategists are contemplating the potential ramifications of the conflict on financial markets, even as investors appeared to be relatively calm for now. Traders shook off concerns about the Middle East, with all three major U.S. stock indexes DJIA SPX COMP closing higher on Monday.

Some traders and investors are worried about the possibility of a second wave of U.S. inflation that hasn’t been fully priced by financial markets yet, and which comes at a time when the Federal Reserve is expected to take no action at its Oct. 31-Nov. 1 meeting. With central bankers uncertain about the economic outlook, “a frozen, uncertain Fed risks higher inflation and higher market rates as a result,” according to chief economist Chris Low of FHN Financial in New York.

At Canada’s BCA Research, Gertken sees only a 30% chance that Israel will limit its response to Gaza.

Instead, the strategist points to a 45% chance that the war will expand to include Hezbollah and other militant groups in Lebanon and Syria, producing “a regional war with higher risk of impacting oil, but not necessarily a direct impact.”

In addition, Gertken assigns a 25% likelihood to the scenario that Israel will attack Iran, its assets across the region, or its “core sphere of influence” Iraq — a scenario “that could force Iran to respond militarily, which would include disrupting oil supply to tell the U.S. to restrain Israel.”

Growing instability in the Middle East poses a 31% chance of major oil shocks and investors should prepare to make such shocks their base case over the next 12-24 months, according to BCA Research. Gertken recommends that investors “go long defense stocks and energy versus cyclicals.”

“The key macro concerns from the developments in Israel lie with the threat of upward pressure on oil prices, and how its corresponding effect on core inflation could potentially prompt central bank action,” said Seema Shah, chief global strategist of Principal Asset Management based in Des Moines, Iowa.

“Brent crude prices have not risen materially, but a significant escalation in tensions would likely apply further upward pressure,” Shah wrote in an email on Monday. “While policy makers will likely look through these developments in the near term, higher oil prices can work their way into core inflation and inflation expectations if sustained, demanding central bank action.”

If oil prices rise further and price pressures do re-emerge, expectations of additional monetary action from policy makers could threaten a renewed bond rout, she said. “In light of the situation in Israel, it is prudent for investors to maintain a diversified portfolio across different asset classes, with a particular emphasis on high quality and defensives.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 5:21 pm

What they and the people of Gaza both need are industries and jobs.

When the Israeli’s left, in 2005, they left behind an established industry, growing fruit and vegetables in greenhouses.

Rioting Palestinians destroyed the lot.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 5:22 pm

Large numbers of upticks for vicious comments made against me have been used in the past to try to drive me from this site, probably more than anyone else has ever recieved here.

I think someone got 127 here one day for something non-Lizzie related.
This was shortly after he and a couple of cronies assured us that ticks could not be gamed.
Around the time of CMD Longtime Lurker.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:23 pm

If Israel depopulates northern Gaza, why do they need to take land?
If there is a no-mans land by default, isn’t that one objective met?
Genuine questions.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 5:25 pm

Does anyone have bad net service on mobile or on a laptop at home now?

Is it because of the war? I swear this happened when the RU/UA sparked up.

It’s been crap for roughly two weeks for me so…

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 5:26 pm

If Israel depopulates northern Gaza, why do they need to take land?

Think of a dynamic disincentive effect.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:26 pm

I’m really surprised Biden didn’t pop in on the Saudi’s last week.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:28 pm

Dot, if northern Gaza is uninhabitable, doesn’t that achieve the same goal without occupying the shit hole with all the problems that goes along with it?

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 5:28 pm

Dover

Honest question, what are you trying to gain from the poll? What and why would it be considered important if say it’s tomorrow, a week or a month?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2023 5:29 pm

Something in common with these theocracies is that education drops off a cliff.

That’s certainly what happened when the green-progressive religion got its hands on our education system.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:31 pm

You can tell Kosha Gada has benefited from US dental work.
Full on Hollywood teeth.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 5:32 pm

if northern Gaza is uninhabitable, doesn’t that achieve the same goal without occupying the shit hole with all the problems that goes along with it?

No. Military bases can be placed in “uninhabitable” land. Occupy? Annex.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 23, 2023 5:32 pm

Israel will invade when everyone least expects it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:33 pm

Taking land is “conventional”.
Now is not the time for conventional thinking.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 5:33 pm

Also, the pundits keep talking about the dangers of a two front war. Why would that be a problem for Israel though with a couple of hundred thousand troops to play with?

I don’t see Gaza as a labor intensive operation. It has to be a more careful strategy in urban warfare I think.

The haz has supposedly 100,000 fighters, but they can’t all be devoted to fighting Israel because their territories would be threatened in Leb.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 23, 2023 5:34 pm

How about a nuclear minefield ?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:34 pm

Military bases can be placed in “uninhabitable” land.

It was a failure in Afghanistan.
Unless you are planning Roman style retaliation, there’s a heavy price to pay.

Delta A
Delta A
October 23, 2023 5:35 pm

Bravo, Davey Boy.

A talented Cat indeed.

johanna
johanna
October 23, 2023 5:36 pm

As the rate of technological change accelerates, the youth of Gaza is getting left further & further behind.
A 8 year old Israeli that doesn’t get their head blown off is more qualified than most 18 year Gazans.

In the coffee shop today for a free (!) read of The Australian, and a couple of little kids came into the play area which, unfortunately, was just behind me. They were Miss Six and Master Four. Miss Six seated herself and said – ‘this is my combuter.’ Master Four said ‘this is my combutor.’ And on they went, incoherent babble to me.

Point is, who would have imagined even 20 years ago that six and four year olds would be talking like this? And, I’m in Queanbeyan, one of the heartlands of ignorant, redneck, bla bla bla territory that failed to comprehend the light-strewn pathway that was The Voice. Why, every day I interact with people who don’t even have a degree! Imagine that!

Anyway, the yoof of Gaza may well be adept at online rabble-rousing againt Israel. Not sure that it is much help on the CV in the big world.

While I’m here, could I mention yet another ongoing and annoying example of contemporary ‘journalists’ innumeracy?

They use ‘a fraction’ as though it means a small proportion. You know, TheirABC will say that some government program addresses ‘only a fraction’ of the perceived need, with the strong implication that it is completely inadequate.

99/100 is a fraction, morons. You have no idea what the word means. And, apparently there is no-one in the editorial hierarchy who does, either.

No wonder they just regurgitate whatever the ‘experts’ in the ABC Giant Rolodex of Virtue tell them. 🙁

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 5:36 pm

Large numbers of upticks for vicious comments made against me have been used in the past to try to drive me from this site

that’s where this whole tick-shit started

Lizzie, I’m sure you’re a lovely person but honestly sometimes the things you say here have attracted much disapproval.
and when there were only up-ticks available then it was usually whoever cracked the best joke at your expense that accrued all the up-ticks

you were right saying that they were weaponised, though in my opinion, not in the way you think they were.
It was probably unfair at the time … but you did dig yr heels in which showed remarkable tenacity though it was at times both tragic and funny in equal measure

my response has ever been the same since back then.
if the place had up-ticks and their purpose was rendered meaningless, then the answer was to also have down-ticks

…or no ticks at all, though I don’t think I ever actually said as much

I don’t believe for second ticking was abused in the manner that the JC character promoted.
or “pimped” might be a better word

that vicious self-aggrandizing clown blew smoke up your arse the whole time, in my opinion diminishing you while he did
and since then his troupe of clowns have used the idea as a stalking-horse to attack anybody they took exception to … who were many.
saving the forum they called it

what’s it been now with down-ticks? .. a few weeks?

the shrieking from the Clown Posse has been relentless the whole time and it’s only reaching a crescendo now

rather than a gesture loaded full of innuendo and accusation, an up or a down should say exactly up or down and nothing more.

Ask your self who changed the value of a tick

… some more than others seem to have an unhealthy investment in what a tick is worth

and everybody here is cheapened by their behavior

it’s disgusting

Frank
Frank
October 23, 2023 5:37 pm

Now is not the time for conventional thinking.

Excess levels of synthetic oestrogen in the water supplies going into Gaza. Give it ten years.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 5:37 pm

“Israel steps up attacks” sez Seven News. “The rush to save Australians”.

It’s hard to describe my disgust at our media. It’s as if Oct 7 never happened, as if there are no hostages, as if Hamas hasn’t been bombing the crap out of Israel for years.

And those “Aussies”…? They’re in Gaza.

Decide for yourselves. I’m over it.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 5:37 pm

Anglo-Norman defensive assimilative imperialism.

I hope that sounded intelligent and unintelligible, like Kissinger.

Delta A
Delta A
October 23, 2023 5:39 pm

Good heavens! Talk about the five o’clock rush.

My kudos to Davey boy referred to his excellent talent for anagrams way, way back now on the thread.

Keep at it, Davey.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 5:40 pm

They use ‘a fraction’ as though it means a small proportion.

For the general case of the commutative laws of mathematics to hold, for proper fractions, this must be true.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 23, 2023 5:41 pm

If you don’t like updicks and downdicks, may I suggest that you take a deep breath and
ignore them.

johanna
johanna
October 23, 2023 5:41 pm

There is no reason for Albo to go to Israel.

Pity the Israelis, facing a full-blown war, and every virtue-signalling politician on the planet wants a photo opportunity and security and protocol and plush accommodation and briefings.

I hope they are telling them all (politely) to eff off.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 5:41 pm

Rioting Palestinians destroyed the lot.

I think it would be more accurate to say they were looted. No honour amongst thieves.
here

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 5:41 pm

dover0beach
Oct 23, 2023 5:08 PM
New post: Poll #1: When will the IDF ground invasion of Gaza begin?

When no one expects it. Along with a sea landing. Along with carbon monoxide being pumped into those tunnels. Along with lots of other stuff that the Rag Heads will never expect.

No one expects –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKQ_sQKBASM

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:42 pm

If Kushner via the Saudis managed to get hostages freed, the Biden administration would pursue him for breaching the Logan Act.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 5:47 pm

I thought perhaps Israel was looking at a 1km zone inside the entire gaza border, as for northern gaza, assuming they won’t object to a rebuild once hamas infrastructure is annihilated.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 5:48 pm

Diplomatic support giving Israel the green light to clean the chronometers of Hamas (h/t Star Trek) is all that Albo needs to do.

Quite so, Bern.

But because Elbow is not a leader’s bottom, he is terrified that publicly supporting Israel will trigger an internal insurrection against his weak leadership by the dominant communist left wing of the federal ALP parliamentary party, hastening the demise of his already doomed tenure.

Because Elbow is a) a Trotskyist idealogue; b) not very bright, he is just a follower of the rabid left, not its leader.

Elbow is so dumb he thought he’d win the apartheid referendum in a canter.

But Elbow isn’t Gough or Hawkie, despite his fevered dreams. He’s just a line-and-length communist subversive like R.F.X. Connor, destined to be a virtual nobody in ALP history.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 5:49 pm

This has been a community service announcement

learn to love your typo

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 5:50 pm

Dover, maybe a bit more intel on the hostages. Proof of life would be useful to Hamas.

If they don’t provide it, the obvious has happened. Then it’s on.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 5:52 pm

I don’t believe for second ticking was abused in the manner that the JC character promoted.
or “pimped” might be a better word

That’s the beauty of the place, you worthless POS. You don’t have to believe a word I say as the rest can make their own judgement.

But here’s the thing: most of the time you have copped a barrage of downticks, you’ve been squealing like the pig you’ve always been here, and you’ve accused me and others of posting massive downticks against your mostly useless and trolling comments. You’re hypocritical piece of sludge.

That vicious self-aggrandizing clown blew smoke up your arse the whole time, in my opinion diminishing you while he did
and since then his troupe of clowns have used the idea as a stalking-horse to attack anybody they took exception to … who were many.
saving the forum they called it

And, I did stop you and the rest of the motley pack to jackels from continuing to beat up on her everyday for two years? I did 🙂

Has there ever been a pile-on you haven’t joined, your worthless turd? Name a single case when? Also, while you’re there, name one single time you haven’t intro’ed yourself on the blog without some sort of lowbrow trolling comment. You have zero to add to ANY conversation because you’re not even 10% as smart as you think you are. And thems big words won’t disguise that. You’re a dumb f… with a serious mental problem. From early this morning, all you’ve done here is whine and troll with nothing to add to any discussion.

Just to repeat, the only thing you’ve done all day is whine and troll. Post something useful, like how great are preserved lemons, you moron.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 5:53 pm

Vicki…what Speccie piece is the Jew hatred under. I will send a complaint

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:54 pm

We don’t know what private parties are doing with regards to paying for hostages.
Keep in mind, Glenn Beck funded planes & private security contractors to get people out of Afghanistan (as did other parties) who knows what’s going on in Gaza now.

Just because we are reading or seeing anything doesn’t mean a lot isn’t going on.

FFS, the Glenn Beck Afghan stories show what a mess the withdrawal was.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 5:57 pm

Just to repeat, the only thing you’ve done all day is whine and troll

Pop !!

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 5:57 pm

Sleazy hates Israel. I don’t want him turning up. Besides, he’s embarrassing, imagine the photo op of him picturef with REAL men such as Bibi, Naftali Bennett, Lapid and others. A peewee from Marrickville standing next to lions.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 5:59 pm

MatrixTransform
Oct 23, 2023 5:57 PM

Just to repeat, the only thing you’ve done all day is whine and troll

Pop !!

(Troll with a serious mental problem)

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 6:00 pm

I usually don’t watch Sharri.
That was an hour of power.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 6:01 pm

And, I did stop you and the rest of the motley pack to jackels from continuing to beat up on her everyday for two years? I did ?

Lizzie,

the warm wet feeling ?

that’s JC pissing in your pocket again

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 6:05 pm

JC,

what exactly set you into vendetta-mode in the first place?

do you even know ?

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 6:07 pm

This is (part of the ball of reasons) why I hate Atlassian.

Is it possible to move tickets/issues from one Kanban board to another board ?

No. Not because the code doesn’t support it, but because the concept is nonsense.

[redacted]

You can click on the dot menu in the top right of the ticket and select “Move”. Then move it to whatever board you want.

Arse-Lassian Space Cadet: Please review our Rules of Engagement, author of redacted. It is never acceptable to use such derogatory name calling on our site. You are welcome to disagree with other users, but name calling will not be tolerated. I have edited your previous reply to remove this content in violation of our community rules.

For what it is worth, OPs previous answer is technically correct.

—–

So I’m gonna invent a new method of project management rehabilitation. I’ll call it “Shepherding” where all incomplete tasks are moved into another Kanban board and micro teams complete each in a scrum.

The idea that ONE proprietary software firm decides everyone else’s methodology is just nuts.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 6:08 pm

Lizzie,

the warm wet feeling ?

that’s JC pissing in your pocket again

Then why the sudden brakes after I showed what a pathetic bunch of light weight losers you were?

Courage? Get the f out of here you depressed loser. From 8 this morning to 6 this evening, it’s been whining and trolling.

JC,

what exactly set you into vendetta-mode in the first place?

do you even know ?

No vendetta at all, but just responding to your constant trolling efforts against me. And I will respond most times, which is why you’re now walking around like a limbless victim. Piss off, you waste of oxygen.

Zatara
Zatara
October 23, 2023 6:09 pm

Regarding the hostages, if the donor nations and organizations of the world really gave a damn they would have come together and made an ultimatum:

ALL hostages released by sunset or Gaza and Palestine have seen their last penny of aid money. Ever.

Come to think of it, the US could have done that on their own if they didn’t have a moldering vegetable in the Oval Office. That vegetable by the way is sitting on the beach at his house in Delaware having yet another holiday at the moment, while the world could be on the brink.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 6:09 pm

I usually don’t watch Sharri.
That was an hour of power.

It’s Australia’s most watchable TV news show — the only one dedicated to breaking stories, i.e. telling us stuff we don’t know.

Unfortunately, Markson is often absent — one of the downsides for media employers of hiring young mothers.

Blokes expect to be required to turn up. Chicks are given lots of concessions not available to blokes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 6:11 pm

ALL hostages released by sunset or Gaza and Palestine have seen their last penny of aid money.

Trump would have tweeted that mid butchery on the 7th of Oct.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2023 6:12 pm

feelthebern
Oct 23, 2023 5:28 PM
Dot, if northern Gaza is uninhabitable, doesn’t that achieve the same goal without occupying the shit hole with all the problems that goes along with it?

Short of spraying it regularly with something like mustard gas, how do you render it uninhabitable?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 6:14 pm

Short of spraying it regularly with something like mustard gas, how do you render it uninhabitable?

It’s a lot flatter today than it was two weeks ago.
Plus you ensure zero power, zero water & zero sewerage works.
Yep, that’s uninhabitable.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 6:16 pm

Then why the sudden brakes … ?

straight into the dialectic

like every other personality disordered clown you constantly fabricate shit

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2023 6:18 pm

calli
Oct 23, 2023 5:37 PM
“Israel steps up attacks” sez Seven News. “The rush to save Australians”.

It’s hard to describe my disgust at our media. It’s as if Oct 7 never happened, as if there are no hostages, as if Hamas hasn’t been bombing the crap out of Israel for years.

And those “Aussies”…? They’re in Gaza.

I think it was during one of the Israel/Hezbollah stoushes on the Lebanon border that we had to rescue many, many “Australians” “trapped” in Lebanon. Afterwards, they complained that they did not accrue Frequent Flyer Points on the QANTAS “rescue” flights.

They have made their beds, let them lie in them.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 6:18 pm

MSFT and other big firms for some reason give BS answers.

This was easy to follow.

https://www.unleash.so/a/answers/project-management/is-it-possible-to-move-issues-between-jira-projects

Lysander
Lysander
October 23, 2023 6:22 pm

Have I not “read the room” or was Tucker and Vivek going soft on their support for Israel?

I know the anti “forever war” group in the Republican movement is pretty solid, but I can’t bring myself to support Carlson and Vivek if this is the case.

Or, by scrolling through the interview rather than watching in full, did I miss something?

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
October 23, 2023 6:24 pm

Vicki…what Speccie piece is the Jew hatred under. I will send a complaint

You can find her foul comments on any article that mentions Israel or Jews.

Zatara
Zatara
October 23, 2023 6:24 pm

Carlson has definitely been leaning into the ‘not our problem’ role lately.

Alamak!
Alamak!
October 23, 2023 6:25 pm

The idea that ONE proprietary software firm decides everyone else’s methodology is just nuts.

1000% agreement on Atlassian and their inability to design or even just maintain usable software. Jira was a thing of beauty years back with just enough functionality to do what you needed and some simple SQL to dump tasks into Excel for any fancy reporting or project aggregation. Atlossion JIRA does now support both Kanban and Agile/Sprint-based methodologies but near impossible to figure how to switch views …

A startup could off a SAAS version of “classic” Jira with $5/month pricing and a solid promise NEVER to add any new features.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2023 6:25 pm

Zatara
Oct 23, 2023 6:09 PM
Regarding the hostages, if the donor nations and organizations of the world really gave a damn they would have come together and made an ultimatum:

ALL hostages released by sunset or Gaza and Palestine have seen their last penny of aid money. Ever.

On 7 October, the EU announced the cessation of all aid to Gaza.

Within 24 hours, they had backed down. Within a week, they had announced increased aid, no conditions.

The Muslims of Europe must have a stack of “interesting” films of EU leaders.

johanna
johanna
October 23, 2023 6:26 pm

Venue is fined and excoriated because of discounts for women removing their bras:

An Adelaide nightclub that offered patrons free drinks based on their bra size in a social media ad has been fined by South Australia’s consumer watchdog.
Key points:

SA’s Consumer and Business Services fined the nightclub $3,897 for breaches of two codes
The Liquor and Gambling Commissioner said the promotions were against the General Code of Practice
The nightclub was also criticised for its lack of CCTV coverage which has since been upgraded

In June, Adelaide CBD venue Woolshed on Hindley encouraged patrons in a Facebook post to take their bras off in exchange for free drinks.

“Wearing a bra is so uncomfortable, hang it up in the shed and let loose,” the post stated in June, while offering one, two or three free drinks based on whether patrons use A, B or C cup bras.

“The bigger the better,” the post stated.

“That means you as well boys.”

The promotion attracted backlash from some social media users, who at the time described the post as “misogynistic”.

Is it tasteless? Yes. But, if it is illegal, some of our contributors should be in jail.

There was another story at TheirABC today about how, even in the sanctified halls of the APS, some of the guys created a ‘hottest’ list for the most recent intake of graduates.

As a woman, I don’t like this kind of behaviour – it is demeaning, disrespectful and childish. The reality it is what a lot of men do, whatever we think and prefer. And, it’s never going to change.

Also, there is a humorous element which is never acknowledged. Men often relate by joking, and the jokes may be the opposite of the meaning.

Been watching some 1950s Brit fillums recently, and every scene in a working class environment has pinups (calendars and pix) in the workplace. To me, it seemed more like a mutual admiration society than anything else.

cohenite
October 23, 2023 6:26 pm

What did Sharri, about whom I have mixed feelings, do to deserve such acclaim. I’ve been busy watching the proposal scenes in the movie adaptations of our Jane’s novels. The 2005 P&P one is the best but I’m becoming enamoured of the Northanger Abbey 2007 version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1vvcLQih28

cohenite
October 23, 2023 6:26 pm

What did Sharri, about whom I have mixed feelings, do to deserve such acclaim. I’ve been busy watching the proposal scenes in the movie adaptations of our Jane’s novels. The 2005 P&P one is the best but I’m becoming enamoured of the Northanger Abbey 2007 version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1vvcLQih28

Zatara
Zatara
October 23, 2023 6:28 pm

The Muslims of Europe must have a stack of “interesting” films of EU leaders.

Or, the muslims of Europe are approaching critical mass, and someone reminded the EU leadership of that.

Lysander
Lysander
October 23, 2023 6:28 pm

Thanks Zatara
I scrolled through lots of his interview as I was waiting for the “but.” That is, he doesn’t support Israel but… But, the “but” never came.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 6:30 pm

I tell one good thing, since he lost his referendum, Sleazy’s lost his smirk and mojo.

Nice….very nice.

Lysander
Lysander
October 23, 2023 6:30 pm

There was another story at TheirABC today about how, even in the sanctified halls of the APS, some of the guys created a ‘hottest’ list for the most recent intake of graduates.

As a woman, I don’t like this kind of behaviour – it is demeaning, disrespectful and childish. The reality it is what a lot of men do, whatever we think and prefer. And, it’s never going to change.

Unless its Dean Laidley of course. TheirABC would be all for that.

cohenite
October 23, 2023 6:32 pm

Venue is fined and excoriated because of discounts for women removing their bras:

A well designed and worn bra can add inches to a sheila’s attractiveness as these cute owls splendidly show.https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/974184963130052349/

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 6:32 pm

MatrixTransform
Oct 23, 2023 6:16 PM

Then why the sudden brakes … ?

straight into the dialectic

(Big word alert)Dialectic, or perhaps mugged by reality and shown to be sad losers. By the way, you need to know what a word means before you attempt to use it. It doesn’t convey what you think it does, you dummy.

like every other personality disordered clown you constantly fabricate shit

If only we were all God Oracles.

Since 8 am.. whine and troll.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 6:33 pm

Afterwards, they complained that they did not accrue Frequent Flyer Points on the QANTAS “rescue” flights.

I remember that – there was a restriction on the baggage, and they didn’t accrue “frequent flier” points on the rescue flights.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 6:35 pm

JC, your mask is slipping

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 6:35 pm

Troll

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 6:37 pm

David Bowie – Heroes:

David Bowie – Heroes

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 23, 2023 6:40 pm

In June, Adelaide CBD venue Woolshed on Hindley encouraged patrons in a Facebook post to take their bras off in exchange for free drinks.

WTF in my younger days both the Criterion Hotel and See Veiw Hotel in Townsville used to have wet T shirt competitions on Sunday sesh arvos for $50 drink cards. Winners decided by loudest cheers.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 6:41 pm

youse wooden no

mongs

JMH
JMH
October 23, 2023 6:41 pm

johanna
Oct 23, 2023 5:08 PM

I agree. There is no excuse for basic IT illiteracy these days. Many here have tried to explain how to get around this simple problem.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 6:42 pm

at least I’ve reduced his idiocy to single word replies

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 23, 2023 6:42 pm

“The key macro concerns from the developments in Israel lie with the threat of upward pressure on oil prices, and how its corresponding effect on core inflation could potentially prompt central bank action,” said Seema Shah, chief global strategist of Principal Asset Management based in Des Moines, Iowa.

And:

“In light of the situation in Israel, it is prudent for investors to maintain a diversified portfolio across different asset classes, with a particular emphasis on high quality and defensives.”

If you’re lucky enough you can be paid for insights like this.

Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2023 6:42 pm

He’s not eligible to be president. Not that Obama ever was, mind you.

Vivek Ramaswamy Admits in NBC News Interview His Parents Were Not U.S. Citizens When He Was Born

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 6:43 pm

uh ho … it’s trope-time again

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 6:46 pm

I agree. There is no excuse for basic IT illiteracy these days. Many here have tried to explain how to get around this simple problem.

Tell me how to get iPhones not to correct “omw” to the gay-sounding “On My Way!” and make it impervious to software updates.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 6:47 pm

The reality it is what a lot of men do, whatever we think and prefer.

Women do it too. Endless discussions of who’s “hot” and who’s not.

When you get to my age, the discussions are all about what pills they’re on. Or their handicap, if they’re lucky to still be playing. 😀

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 23, 2023 6:51 pm

Sleazy hates Israel. I don’t want him turning up. Besides, he’s embarrassing, imagine the photo op of him pictured with REAL men such as Bibi, Naftali Bennett, Lapid and others. A peewee from Marrickville standing next to lions.

.

What a pathetic creature is AirBus Albo, he’s mean, nasty, charmless, witless, feckless and hapless – he has the speaking voice of a neurtered chichuahua, the facial expression of a lonely hound-dog and the dentition of a gummy geriatric -Oh and the down-in-the-mouth, quivering lower lip is as fake as his fake tears which are so fake there’s never a spill to be seen — can’t say much more because by then I’ve left the room.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 6:52 pm

MatrixTransform
Oct 23, 2023 6:42 PM
at least I’ve reduced his idiocy to single word replies

Who’s on first?

MatrixTransform
Oct 23, 2023 5:57 PM

Pop !!

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 6:52 pm

No cohenite…still 2005 P&P.

But close.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 6:53 pm

Why is that dickwad going Israel. Bibi needs to tell him f*ck off. Albo needs a boot to head.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 6:54 pm

Sancho Panzer
Oct 23, 2023 6:41 PM
youse wooden no

mongs

LOl, recall the late night drunken whining this blog wasn’t to his exalted standards? Went on for about a month.

Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2023 6:57 pm

Richard Vobes

She’s calling for a criminal investigation

The leader of a new party in New Zealand is calling for a criminal investigation into the ‘thing’ that has been causing deaths in her country, as well as elsewhere in the world.

johanna
johanna
October 23, 2023 7:00 pm

‘Moderates’ – right.

n a startling revelation, an official document recently published by the supposedly “moderate” Palestinian Authority is shown to outline explicit calls for the murder of Jewish individuals, as it calls on imams to incite violence against Jews in Friday sermons, citing a religious text for Muslims to “fight the Jews” and “kill” them all.

The document, published Friday by the Palestinian Authority’s Ministry of Endowments and Religious Affairs, provides comprehensive instructions for imams to incite violence in their weekly religious sermons, including inflammatory rhetoric and a message to “kill” the Jews.

Places like Harvard, at the top of the US academic, financial and social tree, regard this as propaganda, except for those who actively support it.

There is an excellent recent Breitbart radio show with an academic who managed to survive the Leftist takeover. He perfectly describes what happened at the ANU, and no doubt many other Australian universities. The generational changeover, and subsequent hiring if the like-minded.

When I was a student there in the early 1970s, a Marxist Philosophy tutor conducted classes outside, under the trees, and was wildly popular. What’s more, his class had a 100% pass rate, a foreboding of what was to come.

From a small but perfectly formed academy of excellence, set in magnificent grounds, it is now a crass degree factory funded by overseas students. The parklands have been desecrated with ugly buildings, academic standards are pitched to making sure that the parents are not disappointed, and we now have cases in the ACT courts of blokes with foreign names allegedly committing rape and murder on campus.

I suppose if you went to UNSW, it wouldn’t twang a chord.

But, the ANU campus was a thing of beauty, and completely accessible to the public.

Oh, well. 🙂

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 7:02 pm

Many thanks, Tinta. Elbow is a …

neutered chichuahua

.

Purfecct.

He should consider himself lucky he won’t be murdered with an ice pick like his political hero Leon Trotsky.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 7:03 pm

Indolent
Oct 23, 2023 6:42 PM

He’s not eligible to be president. Not that Obama ever was, mind you.

Vivek Ramaswamy Admits in NBC News Interview His Parents Were Not U.S. Citizens When He Was Born

—————————–

That’s all garbage. Ramaswamy was born in Cincinnatti, Ohio and the caselaw has never supported this lunatic idea that both parents must be American citizens if a candidate was born in America. He was a natural-born citizen by virtue of being born on US soil and later his parents naturalised themselves anyway. Children don’t “inherit” dual nationality; his mother was naturalised. India does not allow dual citizenship. Their constitution forbids it. He cannot hold a right that is not conferred at all (nemo dat?).

There’s even an argument that Amendment V due to Amendment XIV repeals the natural born citizen requirement.

About five seconds in wiki.

In 1875, Chief Justice Waite, in the voting-rights case Minor v. Happersett, stated:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.”

Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162 (1875)

The U.S. Supreme Court decision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), citing Lynch as a leading precedent, held a child born in the United States of two Chinese parents became “at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States”

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) 169 U.S. 649, 42 L.Ed. 890, 18 S.Ct. 456

In a 1999 Circuit Court decision, the U.S.-born children of two non-citizen parents were spoken of as “natural born citizens”.

Mustata v. US Dept. of Justice (6th Cir. 1999) 179 F.3d 1017, 1019.

Similarly, Eugene Volokh, Professor of Law at UCLA, found “quite persuasive” the reasoning employed by the Indiana Court of Appeals, which had concluded “that persons born within the borders of the United States are ‘natural born Citizens’ for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents”.

Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana, 916 NE 2d 678 (Ind. Ct. of Appeals November 12, 2009).

—–

Now of course the real issue with Obama was he claimed to be a poor foreign student at university.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 7:04 pm

both the Criterion Hotel and See Veiw Hotel in Townsville used to have wet T shirt competitions on Sunday sesh arvos for $50 drink cards

Still occurred in the late 80s/early 90s.

The Sunday Sesh activities at both the Seaview and the Cri were legendary.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 7:05 pm

neutered chichuahua”

That made me laugh.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 7:07 pm

Now of course the real issue with Obama was he claimed to be a poor foreign student at university.

He was born in Kenya.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2023 7:08 pm

I sometimes have to read boilerplate stories to see who wrote them. I broke out in laughter when I looked at this one on Sky News:

‘Quite polarising’: Images coming from Gaza ‘not helping the Israeli case’ (23 Oct)

Australian Financial Review Political Editor Phillip Coorey says images coming from Gaza are “not helping the Israeli case”. … “You see women and children getting caught up in these bombing raids … it’s really quite polarising,” Mr Coorey told Sky News Australia.

Oh Mr Coorey shirley by now you have worked out that anything coming out of Gaza makes Shakespeare look like an amateur. And everything your side of the MSM says, ie most of it, is full of crap?

And even if it isn’t, they started this unpleasantness. Israel will finish it.

Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2023 7:08 pm
JC
JC
October 23, 2023 7:10 pm

Dot

The Kenyan was the very first “birther”. He actually started it by

the real issue with Obama was he claimed to be a poor foreign student at university.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 7:10 pm

JC

Oct 23, 2023 6:52 PM

MatrixTransform
Oct 23, 2023 6:42 PM
at least I’ve reduced his idiocy to single word replies

Who’s on first?

MatrixTransform
Oct 23, 2023 5:57 PM

Pop !!

Backhand winner down the line!

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 7:12 pm

Shortstop!!!

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 7:13 pm

Who’s on first?

ah, you eternal simpleton

my single word reply is a skewer referring to your paper-thin ego that I touched on this morning.

but yours … yours is just you lost for words.

you can’t win JC

take my advice and get the fnck of everybody’s case

fyi:
dialectic has many meanings
many of which, you are clearly ignorant of

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 7:15 pm

Backhand winner down the line!

shh … the Lego line umpire is concentrating

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2023 7:16 pm

‘Our national broadcaster is becoming a national embarrassment’ | Mark Dolan on the bias of the BBC

He’s very slow, isn’t he?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 7:17 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Oct 23, 2023 7:04 PM

both the Criterion Hotel and See Veiw Hotel in Townsville used to have wet T shirt competitions on Sunday sesh arvos for $50 drink cards

Still occurred in the late 80s/early 90s.

The Sunday Sesh activities at both the Seaview and the Cri were legendary.

What attire ladies wear in hotels and the humidity level of the fabric are matters entirely for them, if they are so inclined.
Rating sheets of ladies in the workplace is a kettle of fish of an entirely different colour.
Fraught.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 7:17 pm

Oi! I thought I did the last line of the gag!

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 7:18 pm

The Kenyan was the very first “birther”.

Yeah, it’s hilarious.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 7:20 pm

Hmm.

Dialectic actually has four meanings:

the art of investigating or discussing the truth of opinions

And:

inquiry into metaphysical contradictions and their solutions

And:

the switch next to the dial which one turns, then flicks when one is told to by somebody else

And:

the act of downticking comments on the basis of who authored them, rather then content

I knew my engineeringness would come in handy someday.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 7:22 pm

dialectic has many meanings
many of which, you are clearly ignorant of

Derivative, solipsistic and portmanteau. So Portmanteau.

Mongs.

Vicki
Vicki
October 23, 2023 7:23 pm

Someone wanted reference to the Comments section re Israel & Hamas with the dubious references. Here it is, the best I could do. It was entitled “Letter to the EditoR” in today’s Australian Spectator.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/10/letter-to-the-editor/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UNFI%20%2020231023%20%20AL&utm_content=UNFI%20%2020231023%20%20AL+CID_35f246f8e41555f8e43d7617071c9066&utm_source=CampaignMonitor_Australia&utm_term=Letter%20to%20the%20editor

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 23, 2023 7:23 pm

Meanwhile in the Territory, this is obviously a cry for help:

Speaking anonymously to the NT News on Monday, the businessman said he’d been broken into three times during Referendum weekend, with five vehicles stolen from the inside the workshop being driven through the front gate.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 7:24 pm

The Sunday Sesh activities at both the Seaview and the Cri were legendary.

The Roebuck bay, in Broome – the infamous “Roey” – held a wet – T shirt contest on the day of mourning for the late Queen Elizabeth…

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 7:29 pm
Alamak!
Alamak!
October 23, 2023 7:30 pm

Derivative, solipsistic and portmanteau. So Portmanteau.

impressive bigwordery …or whatever longitudinal verbiage amounts to “big words used to impress”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 7:31 pm

dialectic has many meanings
many of which, you are clearly ignorant of

yeah

there are type 1 dialectics and type 2 dialectics

and also gestational dialectics as well

mongs

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 23, 2023 7:35 pm

Knucks was still going till after 2010 at the Cri.

Sad the unholy stench of dodgy developers money & a shady council means The Cri is about to be bulldozed for more Chicom dog boxes that will struggle to be filled (Around a 20 vacancy rate among property in the CBD). Council removed the heritage listing recently, apparently the developers would love Tatt’s as well but that is still trading and the owners have flat out refused to sell.

eric hinton
eric hinton
October 23, 2023 7:36 pm

The things one realizes when Cat lurking of an evening: I had never noticed the dialect in dialectic.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 7:36 pm

corrugated iron fence +stick = all the dogs

try and bark something intelligent

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 7:37 pm

Alamak

You wrote earlier about Atlassion and I think you’ve said you’re in IT. Do their product range have any long term future in your opinion?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 7:38 pm

the developers would love Tatt’s as well but that is still trading and the owners have flat out refused to sell

Seriously.

The Cri had one of the best views going to enjoy with a soothing schooner or many.

Good to see Tatts is still staunch, although it’s probably dependent on how much cash is on offer.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 7:39 pm

corrugated iron fence +stick

That’s not very dialectic.

You’re the Catweazle-looking hobo with the stick, right?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 7:48 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Oct 23, 2023 7:39 PM

corrugated iron fence +stick

That’s not very dialectic.

You’re the Catweazle-looking hobo with the stick, right?

Some say it would be hard to distinguish Trans from Catweazle in a line-up.
I can’t comment.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 7:50 pm

Trans:-

“The standard of debate here is appalling!”

Also Trans:-

“corrugated iron fence + stick”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 23, 2023 7:55 pm

I think someone got 127 here one day for something non-Lizzie related.
This was shortly after he and a couple of cronies assured us that ticks could not be gamed.

Well, old scabs and water under the bridge now, just to haul in a few cliches, Sancho.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 8:02 pm

it’s disgusting

actually … it’s pathetic

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 8:06 pm

….and so portmanteau

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 8:07 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 23, 2023 7:39 PM

Just back from the Pub and I see that the Headless Chickens are out of the Coop.

FMD. You only have to go away for a few hours and they lose their heads.

Into a Clucking Flurry once again. Or is a Flucking Clurry?

TOSSERS………………

C U in the N T………………….

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 8:10 pm

I think we should mass report this on you tube.

“BadEmpanada”

“Israel Loves Murdering Children”

What a smug little f…wit.

cohenite
October 23, 2023 8:10 pm

Just catching up on Outsiders. In the second hour Rowan concludes the West will never support Israel because of the insidious destruction of the education system and general cowardice. I have a feeling this may be a crunch time for Israel. Biden will dissemble and Jordan, Iran and the rest of the muzzies will be emboldened. Dean also presented in detail what the hamas dogs have done and further intend doing. Some big bangs are in order. If you’re going to go take as many of the bastards as you can with you.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 8:11 pm

FMD. You only have to go away for a few hours and they lose their heads.

Says the positive influence.

TOSSERS………………

C U in the N T………………….

What’s the promised fee cut, Wodney?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 8:13 pm

Just back from the Pub

Yeah righto. Suuure you were. Spending your cut from the convicted criminal’s ponzi scheme?

You weren’t having a grandpa nap per chance, fakepomboomer?

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 8:13 pm

Thomas Mayo says Peter Dutton has a lot to answer for in regard to the failure of the Voice referendum.

The self-styled Communist-inspired radical who is on record as wanting to tear down our institutions down.

The booby who introduced reparations into the debate. Now that really let the cat out of the bag.

The bloke who, with the ABC’s “Red” Kerry O’Brien (currently keeping a low profile), literally wrote the book that described what the Voice would mean for our democracy – that is, nothing good.

This bloke thinks Peter Dutton has a lot to answer for.

Let’s hope Labor offers him pre-selection in a hitherto safe seat in return for his loyalty to the cause.

Comrades.

Alamak!
Alamak!
October 23, 2023 8:14 pm

JC>

You wrote earlier about Atlassion and I think you’ve said you’re in IT. Do their product range have any long term future in your opinion?

Dunno. Taken individually they don’t have anything really great and the “integration” of the products seems to be making the whole thing just that much harder to use. If I look at Gitlab vs BitBucket then Gitlab is about 5 years ahead and getting better. If I look at Jira as described above it’s becoming almost impossible to use without training & consultancy.

I guess the investment cost and unlearning required will make it a tool suite for big companies but everybody else will avoid like the plague because its a time & productivity sinkhole … Kinda like IBM products back in the day.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 8:15 pm

both the Criterion Hotel and See Veiw Hotel in Townsville used to have wet T shirt competitions on Sunday sesh arvos for $50 drink cards

The Beach Road in Bondi used to have the Rear of the Year competition.
Footage still available on YouTube.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 8:16 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 23, 2023 7:39 PM

Johnny Rotten is Back.

Agent Rotten is on the case of the headless chickens who just can’t stop running around with “nerv-arse” energy. Has to be something in the water or the corn.

Or the Gobbling that they keep doing. LOL.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 8:18 pm

Thanks Alamak.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 8:18 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 23, 2023 8:13 PM

Hey Sheep Shagger, go and have a meeting with your Crony mates. C U in the N T. Bahhhhhhhhh

bons
bons
October 23, 2023 8:19 pm

Please.

Can we stop the ‘stencho pantyhose’ thing.

It is disgusting and degrades this blog.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 8:19 pm

headless chickens

Or the Gobbling that they keep doing

Chooks don’t ‘gobble’. But you’d have known that if you been in this wide brown land since 1976, as you claim.

Things that gobble:

1. Turkeys
2. Fake Poms.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2023 8:22 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Oct 23, 2023 7:16 PM
‘Our national broadcaster is becoming a national embarrassment’ | Mark Dolan on the bias of the BBC

He’s very slow, isn’t he?

How did the Jimmy Savile business NOT make the BBC a “national embarrassment”?

chrisl
chrisl
October 23, 2023 8:22 pm

I was just speaking to a friend who was doing a Middle East trip . A few days in Egypt, then onto Jordan , followed by time in Israel. On day 2 the bombs started flying… scurried back to Jordan and back to Australia
A truly memorable trip !

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 8:23 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 23, 2023 8:13 PM

How deluded you are. I bet you voted YES and then shagged a sheep to feel better. Or even worse, the Ram……………….

LOL.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 8:24 pm

Thomas Mayo says Peter Dutton has a lot to answer for in regard to the failure of the Voice referendum.

Thomas Mayo and Marcia Langton did more than anyone else to shoot that referendum in the arze.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 8:25 pm

How common is this engine configuration in heavy industry?

Detroit Diesel V12 Supercharged 2-stroke diesel, 852 ci !!!

I get that idea for a front end loader building up hydraulic pressure with the faster engine RPM as the torque will be high from the capacity anyway, but it’s heavy duty so you need to assume heavy loads on the engine. I know with some you can stall them if you try to steer and move them back or forward at the same time if you don’t push the revs up, let alone scoop up a load from a pile.

PS did he mean turbocharged?

Will it START? V12 Supercharged 2 Stroke GM Detroit Dump Truck SITTING for YEARS

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 8:25 pm

What’s good in life?
Eating fresh corn off the cob, with a smattering of butter.

local oaf
October 23, 2023 8:25 pm

MET Plod update from Andrew …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4koyP_aE9U

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 8:26 pm

Israel-Hamas war live: Israel says it launched ‘limited raids’ into Gaza Strip as it says Hamas is holding 222 hostages
guardian

Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2023 8:26 pm
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 8:27 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 23, 2023 8:19 PM

You obviously don’t know English slang.

Knob gobbler.

Agent Rotten on the case again

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 8:29 pm

The Beach Road in Bondi used to have the Rear of the Year competition.
Footage still available on YouTube.

Any chance of a link? Asking for a friend.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 8:32 pm

Doctors, poets, families, babies: victims of Israel’s war on Gaza

They forgot Gaza’s war on Israel
The Guardian Kings of Disinformation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 8:36 pm

Just back from the Pub

Pro tips for a hanky-headed Pom in an Australian pub:-
– Don’t leave in the middle of a shout;
– Don’t look sideways at the chap next to you at the urinal;
– Don’t ask anyone if they are interested in “an exciting investment opportunity with double digit returns”.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 8:38 pm
Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 23, 2023 8:39 pm

Apropos of wet t-shirt comps: Few a few months there were 2 girls working for me who’d been supporting themselves by entering & winning wet t-shirt comps along the east coast.

They’d enter (& win) take the cash, or if in kind exchange it with a drinker for cash, then consult their calendar of wet t-shirt comps, choose the next one, ride their thumbs to it, enter & win, then ride the thumb to the next one, etc.

Then came a “drought” with no wet t-shirt comps, so they answered a job advert, rode the thumb to my place, & stayed for a few months.

They knew exactly how to play the game. They’d carefully calculate what to wear & how many buttons to undo.

The young bucks of town tried everything they knew to impress the girls:
eg, drinking lots & lots of rum, driving in with their best pig dogs in the back of the Toyota, inviting the girls to come shooting, offering them rides in a road train, etc. .. & many other things girls really love.

Wouldn’ta mattered, the girls were “together” 😉

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 8:39 pm

rosie
Oct 23, 2023 8:32 PM
Doctors, poets, families, babies: victims of Israel’s war on Gaza

They forgot Gaza’s war on Israel
The Guardian Kings of Disinformation.

They forgot the Arab wars on Israel since 1947. Strange about that when most of those dopey Reporters were not even born then. R soles. And NFI (No Farking Idea)

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 8:44 pm

driving in with their best pig dogs in the back of the Toyota

I’ve read Bacon Busters a few times and no offence to other readers, the ladies in that publication often would not get “Director of First Impressions” positions.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 8:46 pm

Jacqui Lambie is way smarter than Waleed Ali

I never thought I would agree with Jacqui Lambie.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 23, 2023 8:48 pm

JC, you were musing whether you’d missed a travelogue from me.

Not if it’s about Pattaya in Thailand, for here it is now:

It costs about AUD100 (1500 baht) for a taxi from the international airport in Bangkok to the coastal resort town of Pattaya, where Hairy had pre-booked us accommodation, thinking it would be a pleasant resort-style ending to our five week trip. We found that price out after our taxi driver, who giggled all the time, had charged us 2,300 baht for the trip. Never mind. The return journey is booked for tomorrow at the hotel price of 1,500.

I was thinking all the way there why are we doing this, for the motorway went through flat dull built-up areas of housing and industry most of the way, and when we struck Pattaya it looked ultra-seedy and like a cheap Gold Coast. As we wended some back streets all I could see on the coastal front were some high-rise genuine monstrosities in bare concrete; could have saved the trip straight off the plane and stayed in an airport hotel, I thought but dare not say, for staying in Pattaya was Hairy’s brainwave. He likes to see new places. Then further along arose some modern glass high rise and I thought we were probably headed for those. Thus it was a surprise to suddenly reach a boom gate where a uniformed attendant gave a salute, ushering us into a topiary garden drive leading to a big and impressive five-star portico and entry with a lot of old-style restrained and well-preserved palatio-glamour, boasting marble floors and impressive public sitting areas. One of the first five star hotels in this resort area, from the 80’s I think, and in a superb position overlooking the swoop of the bay, also looking out to seaward islands beyond it. Our room is large and comfortable. One might say it has seen better days, par for the course for older five stars now hosting four-star tours, but we have a sitting out balcony which, like the interior of the room, also encompasses this view; something marvellous which no newer hotel has.

Pattaya itself has something of a reputation for sleaze, and I wouldn’t enjoy a holiday here unless in a pleasant hotel such as this, where the street life does not impinge. Even so, I managed to see some innocent joy. Three young kids were sitting excitedly with their parents in the back of a Toyota ute, getting a ride that was obviously a treat for them, and having such fun waving to anyone who would wave back, which I did. We used to do that when I was little, I tell Hairy. All three of us in the back, no seats, no belts, hanging on and having fun while squabbling about who sits where.

I am having a cup of tea I made in our hotel room right now after lunching well by the pool where we’ll swim later this arvo. The milk I used is all Hairy could buy at the 7-Eleven here. Avoid camel’s milk, I instructed him. He came back with something called VitaMilk which is sold in a little screw top bottle. This milk is grey, slightly sweet and rather woody in smell. I think it’s soy. I hope so. He told me he had to run the gauntlet of varous adult sexual enticements offered on the short walk to the 7-Eleven store. Nothing underage, thank goodness, for this place apparently once had a bad reputation for that which has apparently been addressed. Again, I hope so.
Lots of families with kids holiday here now.

ewwffffft. This stuff tastes foul in tea!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 8:49 pm

Pro tips for a hanky-headed (fake) Pom in an Australian pub:-

– Don’t yodel ‘Pint o’ best bitter, landlord’
– Don’t say ‘chooks gobble’
– Don’t say ‘who wants an orgy this weekend with my ladyboy?’*

*Yes. I remembered you saying that.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 8:50 pm

Andrew Lawrence on London policing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4koyP_aE9U

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 23, 2023 8:59 pm

The Cri had one of the best views going to enjoy with a soothing schooner or many.

Place had a great set up. Trouble started when the Gleeson Family was allowed to build apartments across the road from the Cri by another questionable council decision who promptly when tenanted started complaining about the noise of live bands. All down hill from there.

No secret Gleeson’s also had their eye on that block after the Cri closed in 2015 promptly moved in with a development application with Geon group somehow involved I believe. Problem was the Cri was heritage listed and their Hive Development planned to demolish the whole of the building. Big uproar ensued in an election year and Council said no. The developers walked away from it for a spell but seems they are at it again.

Locals here just want both pubs facades in that block preserved as they can do wonders these days incorporating the original design into a new building. Also at the end of the day question why we need more office/residential space in a city that is already very much oversupplied.

As for the See View. Other developers tried the same noise complaints path too about the same time but that one failed. The Strand has building height caps that even the council dares mess with a electoral peril. Some big money also on the lower Castle Hill slopes that don’t want their views of Magnetic is blocked by high rises.

Like anywhere I suppose the giant balancing act of keeping developers engaged but preserving historic buildings which hasn’t been done well. I just don’t think it has been handled well.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 8:59 pm

Roger at 8:13.

The self-styled Communist-inspired radical who is on record as wanting to tear down our institutions down.

The booby who introduced reparations into the debate. Now that really let the cat out of the bag.

So many cats. So many bags.
Where to start?
Too much Mayo.
Geoffrey Robertson lamenting that there would be no more overseas appointments for retired pollies.
Threats of no more Welcome to Country.
Luigi says one page. The Ulurus say “Nah, it’s one with the lot.”
Noel from Noosa goes the full Jekyll and Hyde.
Not what one would call a disciplined campaign.
Watch the recriminations start to fly now.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 9:01 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 23, 2023 8:49 PM

Pro tip for Neanderthal Person and sheep shagger –

C U in the N T

T.W.A.T.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 9:01 pm

REQUEST #002

TICKET ELEVATION

MR DOVER

PLEASE CONSIDER JEAN MICHEL GROBON FOR THE NEXT OT CENTREPIECE.

“ROMAN AQUEDUCTS SEEN ON THE SLOPES OF ST JUST”

THIS TICKET HAS BEEN ELEVATED AND NOTED AS A HIGH PRIORITY.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 9:02 pm

C U in the N T

T.W.A.T.

Such value. Much blogging.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 9:06 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Oct 23, 2023 8:49 PM

Pro tips for a hanky-headed (fake) Pom in an Australian pub:-

– Don’t yodel ‘Pint o’ best bitter, landlord’
– Don’t say ‘chooks gobble’
– Don’t say ‘who wants an orgy this weekend with my ladyboy?’*

I don’t know but I also think it may not be wise to go with “Oi! Do you know who you’re dealin’ wif? I’m a part-time bovver boy!”.

Jock
Jock
October 23, 2023 9:07 pm

Just my simple thoughts on the problem Israel has with gaza. In 2000 there were 1 million Arabs in Gaza
Niw there are 2 million with 50% being under 18. There is a population bomb being built. Note that other Arab nations refuse to take them just as they refused in 1948.
My suggestion would be for Israel to reinforce its borders and put pressure on Egypt. I’m sure the stat’s are the same for judea/Samaria. But then a lot of Arabs went to Jordan in 48 and 67.
A diabolical problem. But let me say this. The west would be absolutely stupid to take ANY.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 23, 2023 9:09 pm

The young bucks of town tried everything they knew to impress the girls:
eg, drinking lots & lots of rum, driving in with their best pig dogs in the back of the Toyota, inviting the girls to come shooting, offering them rides in a road train, etc. .. & many other things girls really love.

Made me laugh, Salvadore. Well drawn images and a great punch line.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 9:11 pm

“So many cats. So many bags.
Where to start?”

I think the icing on the cake, the coup de grace so to speak for the YES campaign was the pronouncement, just two and a bit weeks before referendum day, by a washed up, aged, sanctimonious, former journalist and all round twat by the name of Ray Martin (who claims to be indigenous), that Australians who plan to vote NO were “dickheads and dinosaurs”.

Whilst I think that Fair Australia, Senator Jacinta Price, Warren Mundine, Peta Credlin, Andrew Bolt, the IPA, the CIS and so on did a a jolly good job with their NO campaign (and remember, on limited resources), they really should count their lucky stars because everyday they got help from the YESSERS, from misery guts Langton, from Marxist Mayo, from fatso Megan Davis, from smirking Sleazy, and all the rest of the far-left radicals who thought that they’d use this referendum as a sneaky coup d’etat to impose permanent progressive governance on this country.

It failed so spectacularly, so beautifully and so sweetly.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 23, 2023 9:11 pm

A diabolical problem. But let me say this. The west would be absolutely stupid to take ANY.

Absolutely. Adding fuel to the fire that’s already here.

Jordan is 70% Palestinian. Rename it Palestine and be done with it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 9:14 pm

Such value. Much blogging.

Yep. This is the reasoned counter-argument:

C U in the N T
T.W.A.T.

An NPC. Adds nothing except occasional hilarity, due to very obvious chicanery.

It’s a caricature. ‘Orright’, guvna’, wiv’ and ‘innit’ with a fake Cockney dialect even though it professes to be from the north of England. And which he conceded when I picked him up on it months ago.

It’s too fakey, because it’s fake. Claimed to have been invited to this wide brown land in 1976. Yeah righto. It’s no wonder there’s no credibility behind it.

He’s got more stories than Forrest Gump, and all are just as fictional. Exhibit A – ‘when I was a part time bovver boy’. Fake.

On top of that he’s been trying to generate interest in a globally-discredited billion dollar ponzi scheme that another fraud set up overseas, and which earned him 11 years in a US Federal prison.

And with a ‘gorgeous’ Asian wife half his age. Suuuure buddy.

Johnny Rotten is absolutely an obese middle-aged man from Adelaide, moonlighting an NDIS rort and pretending to be one of the Peaky Blinders because he wants to impress people.

There you go. Called it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 9:14 pm

Threats of no more Welcome to Country.

Funny how Marcia Langton’s gone silent!

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 9:17 pm

This is really WW3 as there is no way that this will be a local flare up.

It is going to get bigger and uglier, The Neocons are in charge, Bunker down everyone and have a nice day.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 9:21 pm

Jordan is 70% Palestinian. Rename it Palestine and be done with it.

The ruling class detest and despise the Palestinians as soft, effete, city dwelling losers.

John Brumble
John Brumble
October 23, 2023 9:22 pm

Atlassian…. can be a bit crap.

And the you look at the native SAP user interface and realise there’s a loooooooong way to go down.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 23, 2023 9:26 pm

Dot Oct 23, 2023 8:44 PM
I’ve read Bacon Busters a few times and no offence to other readers, the ladies in that publication often would not get “Director of First Impressions” positions.

I don’t even know what this means.

Please, are you able to translate into English for the Dinosaurs & Dickheads of Catallaxy?

Alamak!
Alamak!
October 23, 2023 9:26 pm

Funny how Marcia Langton’s gone silent!

I hope her word is her bond re Welcomes to Countries.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 9:26 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 23, 2023 9:14 PM

Keep on pontificating along with your Crony Mates. Please carry on.

Meanwhile, I will just drink more red wine and laugh at your very wooden posts. Just like Mrs Stencho Pantyhose and “Jer Cough Cretin with the Big Nose” and of course “Dotty Dot of Dottiness”.

Mrs Money Penny is calling me so Agent Rotten will sign off now and leave you headless chickens to run around and well, I don’t know what. Maybe leave a load of shit somewhere.

Zatara
Zatara
October 23, 2023 9:27 pm

Much more detail than was originally available about the US ship shooting down missiles from Yemen.

US warship shot down 15 drones and four cruise missiles ‘headed for Israel’ during NINE-HOUR onslaught from Iranian-backed militants in Yemen

Sounds like excellent shooting.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 23, 2023 9:27 pm

Peter Dutton has a lot to answer for in regard to the failure of the Voice referendum.

From memory, Dutton was the first public figure to lean towards No, thus giving lots of No proponents the courage to speak out. What began as a small ripple of resentment against the 65% Yes polling results became a tsunami of No thinking, publicity, and debating points – thanks to Dutton.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 9:29 pm

Mrs Money Penny is calling me so Agent Rotten will sign off

See you, Tristan Carruthers-Pendleton from Glenelg.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 9:30 pm

It’s too fakey, because it’s fake. Claimed to have been invited to this wide brown land in 1976. Yeah righto. It’s no wonder there’s no credibility behind it.

An engineer too. Hmmm.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 9:32 pm

Sal

Is your pub in Fortitude Valley?

Jimboomba. The Mild Mild West.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 9:32 pm

Johnny Rotten is absolutely an obese middle-aged man from Adelaide, moonlighting an NDIS rort and pretending to be one of the Peaky Blinders because he wants to impress people.

Please.
We all know this to be true, but no doxxing.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 23, 2023 9:32 pm

Funny how Marcia Langton’s gone silent!

Long may this continue.

P
P
October 23, 2023 9:36 pm

Old School Conservative
Oct 23, 2023 9:27 PM

Good comment OSC.
Haven’t noticed you around for a while. Hope you are well.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 9:38 pm

Cassie at 9:11.
How could I have forgotten Dickheads and Dinosaurs?
You know what hurts Luigi the most?
He has to admit that he has been rolled by Dutton.
The great Slayer of Torries done over by a B-Grader.
And his hired help Jacinta, who they treated as some easily dismissed dusky version of Pauline Hanson.
There’s bin a whole lotta misunderestimatin’ goin’ on round here.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 9:41 pm

Please, are you able to translate into English for the Dinosaurs & Dickheads of Catallaxy?

No, as Dotty Dot of Dottiness could never do that. Far way too down beneath her/his/it’s Ivory Academic Tower as to even acknowledge us.

Along with “Jer Cough Cretin with the Big Nose”, Neanderthal Person, Mrs Stencho Pantyhose and a few other cronies.

Fun people in their own World.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 9:42 pm

He has to admit that he has been rolled by Dutton.

And at least 60% of the country.

He planned for a Churchillian result, and ended up being Chemical Ali.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 9:44 pm

Liz

I never asked you about your travel. Wasn’t me.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 9:45 pm

Derivative, solipsistic and portmanteau.

I dream of going to a black tie dinner party where people say words like that.
It wld be fkn grouse, eh.

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