Open Thread – Weekend 28 Oct 2023


The Harvest, Henry Dawson, 1866

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rosie
rosie
October 29, 2023 12:38 pm

The propaganda, in the main, is to fuel anti Israel and anti western sentiment in muslims, to trigger demonstrations and worse.
They know it’s bs but it works as an excuse which makes it just fine.

bons
bons
October 29, 2023 12:43 pm

At a get together last night a brave soul raised the question of the most annoying female statements.

Amid howls of derision from the ladies, the clear winner was:

” No, nothing for me thanks, I’ll just have some of his”.

miltonf
miltonf
October 29, 2023 12:44 pm

President Slag-Dribble

good name for the moth eaten old perv

areff
areff
October 29, 2023 12:46 pm

the most annoying female statements

‘My mother will be staying with us for a few weeks’

Roger
Roger
October 29, 2023 12:47 pm

What to make of this from Their ABC?

Very difficult to make any judgments from this distance, BB.

There’ll be a lot of history that isn’t included in the report.

I note it ends with a thinly veiled threat of violence from a Palestinian man.

That cycle of retribution has to be broken for there to be peace.

I’m reminded of something Dennis Prager said, “If the Israelis laid down their arms tomorrow, they’d be slaughtered. If the Palestinians laid down their arms tomorrow, there’d be peace.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 29, 2023 12:48 pm

I hope the Israelis tell erdogan if turks step foot in gaza the Hagia Sophia will no longer exist. To start with.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 29, 2023 12:49 pm

the question of the most annoying female statements

Surely the runner-up would had to have been:

‘I’m cold’

Muddy
Muddy
October 29, 2023 12:52 pm

An update on the g@z@ hospital ‘strike,’ via C.L.’s hotair link above.

My own unqualified observation: If the photo of the parking lot was intended to show the epicentre of the missile/bomb strike, why are the burnt vehicles pictured so close to what may have been the point of impact (my supposition, of course)?

For an explosion that either killed or wounded 500 people – or, if we take the lower estimates 100-300 – would the explosive blast not have thrown the vehicles not only further away, but also not have left them all upright?

Aside from the obvious burning of vehicles, the scene appears remarkably ordered for such a catastrophic event.

Had a crowd been present, conceivably there were deaths and injuries, but … the shrubbery in front of the barred windows in the right background seems (from this distance) intact. Also, the small red and silver cars in the middle background do not appear to have been burned.

Cassie of Sydney
October 29, 2023 12:54 pm

I have just returned from a rally to “Bring them back home“. The rally was held in Sydney’s CBD, at Martin Place, attended by thousands of Jews and non-Jews. We stood in Martin Place, we held up pictures of the men, women, children and babies held hostage in Gaza, and we then walked silently down Pitt Street to Circular Quay. As we walked we continued holding up the pictures of the kidnapped, I held up a picture of a young man named Bar Kupershtien, 21 years old, kidnapped from a musical festival by Hamas. You might wonder what Bar’s crime is? He is a Jew.

Reverend Mark Leach, a Jew and an Anglican priest, the son of Jewish mother who survived the Holocaust, spoke movingly. On Monday night, 9 October 2023, Leach unfurled the Israeli flag outside St Andrew’s Cathedral at Town Hall, only to be chased by Palestinian thugs.

The NSW Police escorted us today, and perhaps this will help to atone somewhat for what happened on Monday night, 9 October 2023.

But the most important thing is that, after being told on Monday night 9 October 2023 to stay away from Sydney’s CBD, in a message that reeked of “Judenfrei”, we Jews took back the streets of the CBD. When we reached Circular Quay, we sang songs and waved Oz and Israeli flags, and I think that the stench of what ensued at the Sydney Opera House on Monday night 9 October, when Palestinian and leftist scum screeched, screamed and shouted “gas the Jews”, today we Jews responded….

Am Yisrael Chai.

Vicki
Vicki
October 29, 2023 12:54 pm

Her throat feathers are worn away from digging a nest hole in a termite nest. She’s about 16 years old.

16!!! Wow! Wonderful photo BoN. They are remarkable birds. The birds that visit our gardens (and the dam, creek, & paddocks) are a constant delight. We tend to get a great variety of parrots, the usual cockatoos, corollas, eastern rosellas, red rumped parrots, as well as the usual magpies, occasional kooka, crows, noisy miners, babblers etc. In the paddocks, we see quail, migratory ducks etc. At the creek, we are more likely to see the little tree creepers, willy wagtails etc. Our neighbours in the more uncleared, bushy terrain see a much greater variety of these smaller birds & regularly post amazing photos on the valley Facebook.

johanna
johanna
October 29, 2023 12:54 pm

Mr Dutton says the Prime Minister needs to “reign people in” like Workplace Relations Minister Tony Burke

Is the PM now a monarch?

FFS. ‘reign’ is not a verb. ‘Rein in’ is a compound verb, referring to the handling of horses.

The ignorance and illiteracy, it burns.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 29, 2023 12:55 pm

the most annoying female statements

Is that ALL you ever think about?

cohenite
October 29, 2023 12:56 pm

After your sixth marriage, do you think you should be looking for the seventh?
It depends on whether you’re available.

johanna
johanna
October 29, 2023 12:57 pm

I should add that it is not a verb in this context. I will leave it to better grammarians to say what it is.

Deadman, where are you when we need you?

areff
areff
October 29, 2023 12:58 pm

It can be a verb: to reign

cohenite
October 29, 2023 12:58 pm

I didn’t realise Pauline Hanson was a gay man’s muppet until her performance on Paul Blabbermouth’s show ‘slamming’ a Catholic school for banning unrepentant lesbians from showboating at – and publicly wrecking – a Catholic school forum.

She defended that?! FMD. Yep, no doubt her poofta has her securely up his quoit.

rosie
rosie
October 29, 2023 1:00 pm

I think there were people camping on the small lawn area who were killed and injured in the fuel explosion but not 471 as the hamas Department of Really Big Lies claimed, hamas were very quick to remove rocket debris but of course the light of day wasn’t sufficient to change certain minds, the lie went out under cover of night and that was that.

Muddy
Muddy
October 29, 2023 1:00 pm

calli
Oct 29, 2023 12:29 PM

I’m starting to feel jealous that you have a regular downticker, calli. It’s like a friend who has a stalker, and you thinking ‘Why don’t I have a stalker? I’m good enough!’

I have downtickers, but they seem to be quite casual and irregular about it. That’s just a poor work ethic. Maybe it’s the social moth in me that feels competitive about quiet corners at a party?

Roger
Roger
October 29, 2023 1:02 pm

It can be a verb: to reign

Yes; intransitive.

rosie
rosie
October 29, 2023 1:02 pm

Was it Dutton’s error or that of a journalist?
I’m plumping for journalist.
Up there with
Hard road to hoe.

Cassie of Sydney
October 29, 2023 1:03 pm

where 3000 people are expected to attend in Martin Place. Followed by pro Palestinian rally in Hyde Park with 30,000 expected”

I can attest that there were more than 3000 people in Martin Place.

As for the ABC and its never ending and now very open Jew hatred, why is the taxpayer expected to fund this Jew hating organisation? I’m sorry, but this must stop.

Chris
Chris
October 29, 2023 1:03 pm

” No, nothing for me thanks, I’ll just have some of his”.

Ogden Nash, ‘The Strange Case of the Dead Divorcee’.

johanna
johanna
October 29, 2023 1:05 pm

I know the sensible attitude is to observe that obviously a westerner will find western culture most amazing while an Indian would blah blah blah.

Well, the Japanese adore and are among the best exponents of Western classical music. It’s not that simple.

Also, among my olds’ Dutch/Indonesian pals, it turns out that some of the elite in Indonesia are fans of classical music.

Quality will out.

miltonf
miltonf
October 29, 2023 1:06 pm

At the risk of repeating myself, the ABC goes lower by the day. Words cannot describe my hatred and contempt for it.

Roger
Roger
October 29, 2023 1:07 pm

Was it Dutton’s error or that of a journalist?
I’m plumping for journalist.

Looks like the journalist was quoting Dutton who was giving a spoken interview.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 29, 2023 1:08 pm

Leaflets have been dropped over Gaza City warning residents the area is now a “battlefield” and they must leave for the south

Or…

“IDF aircraft intruded into Gaza airspace dropping tactical stationary over the entire Northern region.”

Oh no, did they miss a hospital again? What is the death toll modelling?

P
P
October 29, 2023 1:09 pm

“I can’t see any problem with it,” Ms Hanson told Sky News host Paul Murray.

“We’ve allowed same-sex marriage in Australia, that was voted in a plebiscite by the Australian people – we actually see it on a daily basis on our TV programs we watch.

“It’s a part of life so I think to deny these two girls to go to the formal is ridiculous.”

Chris
Chris
October 29, 2023 1:11 pm

Surely the runner-up would had to have been:

‘I’m cold’

FINE. Do what you want. I’ll be FINE.

Razey
Razey
October 29, 2023 1:14 pm

“I can’t see any problem with it,” Ms Hanson told Sky News

Which is another good reason not to vote One Nation.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 29, 2023 1:15 pm

16!!!

Vicki – She arrived in early 2011. Already adult, so she can’t be less than 15.

Kooka politics are convoluted. She left in 2016 for elsewhere because she’d exhausted all possible termite mounds in nearby trees. She didn’t like the nest box I put up. But then her son hooked up with another female and there’ve been 5 fledged young kookas from the nestbox over five years. But his mate vanished earlier this year and that’s when this lady returned. Seems to be a matriarchal arrangement, the ladies are boss and holder of the territory.

johanna
johanna
October 29, 2023 1:16 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 29, 2023 12:49 PM

the question of the most annoying female statements

Surely the runner-up would had to have been:

‘I’m cold’

Where do you find these losers? I’ve never said or done any of that. Nor have any of my friends,

It seems that certain single chaps here blame their poor choices on the poor choices.

I’m doing this because otherwise there will be another deluge of self-pity.

Like ‘I chose her because she had spectacular tits, but when it turned out she didn’t have a PhD, I was shattered.’

It’s hard to decide whicch gender in the dating scene is more obnoxious.

Cassie of Sydney
October 29, 2023 1:16 pm

This might have been posted earlier, but it is very, very good…

The Day the Delusions Died by Konstantin Kisin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyW4SMK0Fpc&t=545s

Roger
Roger
October 29, 2023 1:20 pm

“I can’t see any problem with it,” Ms Hanson told Sky News host Paul Murray.

She said, as she stepped onto the slippery slope.

miltonf
miltonf
October 29, 2023 1:21 pm

Flicking thru a hotel room TV remote makes you realize how bloated the rotten stinking ABC is too. ABC kids, ABC country, ABC this, ABC that.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 1:22 pm

“We’ve allowed same-sex marriage in Australia, that was voted in a plebiscite by the Australian people – we actually see it on a daily basis on our TV programs we watch.

I don’t watch tv and if I did it would be a channel change real quick.

Makka
Makka
October 29, 2023 1:25 pm

I don’t watch tv and if I did it would be a channel change real quick.

It’s everywhere. Except maybe fox sports, but then you get to see the lezzos playing footy.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 1:26 pm

What do we have this week?

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Fleccas Talks:

THIS WEEK IN CULTURE 169

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 29, 2023 1:26 pm

Piers Akerman:

Just 525 days ago the worst government in Australia’s history took office. Since then the Green-Left Albanese administration has shown that it stands for nothing.

Its promises are meaningless and it lacks both courage and a moral compass.

Unable to fulfil its election promise to reduce power prices, it has failed to cut the cost of living and it has been weak on foreign affairs.

Its ideological addiction to expensive subsidised wind, solar and water battery power has left an energy deficit, the promise of summer blackouts and a budget blowout.

When tossed a bone by China on the phase-out of tariffs on barley and wine, it responds as rapturously as a pup having its tummy tickled.

But Labor’s most egregious failure is division on Israel because its lacklustre parliamentarians rely on the votes of nihilist Greens and fantasy-driven Teals to retain the government benches.

It has rejected recorded history in favour of myth and ideological fantasy for cheap political advantage.

Supporters of Hamas, which tortured, raped and murdered civilians before taking hostages, waved the Palestinian flag and chanted “gas the Jews” in the presence of NSW police in front of the Opera House.

Labor’s employment and arts minister Tony Burke, whose electorate of Watson includes the Muslim-dominated Canterbury Bankstown council, praised its unanimous decision to fly that flag.

An individual carrying an Israeli flag was arrested by NSW police “for his own protection”.

Burke, in an interview with one of the ABC’s numerous activist commentators, Patricia Karvelas, accepted fatality statistics released by the Hamas terrorists who have controlled Gaza for the past 17 years and hold more than 200 men, women and children hostage rather than wait for verifiable data from independent sources.

Karvelas sought to have the Israelis’ measured response to the unprovoked attack on its civilians labelled “genocide” and made no mention of the ABC’s editing of remarks made by a released 85-year-old hostage about the beatings she had endured.

The ABC’S highly paid management has again demonstrated that it is wholly incapable of presenting unbiased news or current affairs commentary.

The billion-dollar farce is in constant breach of its charter and no longer fit for purpose.

In another example of Labor’s weakness on Middle East policy, senior NSW bureaucrat Michael Coutts-Trotter, the husband of Left-wing federal environment minister Tanya Plibersek, issued an apology after initially condemning the Hamas atrocities.

The brilliant philosopher and polymath Henry Ergas reminded readers of The Australian this week that Labor giant, Bob Hawke had in 1974 vehemently rejected the Whitlam government’s “morally repugnant policy of ‘even-handedness’” toward Palestinian terrorists and Israel.

Hawke, Ergas said, stared down the strong pro-Arab forces in the ALP and unreservedly picked sides.

“If we allow the bell to be tolled for Israel,” Hawke had declared, “it will have tolled for us all.”

Burke, foreign minister Penny Wong and industry and science minister Ed Husic parrot the propaganda delivered by Hamas that Israel is delivering collective punishment on civilians and that there is some sort of equivalence between the democratic government of Israel and the terrorist-run Gaza, which flies the same flag as Canterbury Bankstown council.

Israel asks civilians to leave areas where Hamas terrorists hide, but Hamas shoots them when they flee.

Labor’s actions show it is no longer committed to championing freedom and liberal democracy.

Anyone have an Australian subscription to produce the Henry Ergas piece?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 29, 2023 1:26 pm

“We’ve allowed same-sex marriage in Australia, that was voted in a plebiscite by the Australian people – we actually see it on a daily basis on our TV programs we watch.

Not sure that’s the rationale I’d be relying upon when determining the ethos underpinning a high school dance.

Vicki
Vicki
October 29, 2023 1:31 pm

Seems to be a matriarchal arrangement, the ladies are boss and holder of the territory.

Fascinating. Also interesting that they seem to be able to move through other territory & survive OK, as this matriarch has.

shatterzzz
October 29, 2023 1:32 pm

Noticing the total lack of factual reporting from both the media and all the bleeding heart HAMAS supporters worldwide .. lotz and lotz of how terrible it is on the surface, food, water, electrics ect all gone or in short supply, terrible hardship for the folk in Gaza et al ad nauseam … BUT no mention of the reality that if there are, supposedly, 10s 0f 1 000s of HAMAS terrorists in the tunnels .. they must have plenty of food, water & fuel to keep the lights on so no shortages “downstairs” then?
HAMAS claims to be the legitimate gumming in Gaza yet is quite preparedto see it’s people suffer whilst they themselves are still living very well …
Sooo why aren’t the “fair & balanced’ media pointing this out? ..
Simples ! it doesn’t fit the agenda! .. no one of Gaza’s supporters, outside Gaza, cares about Gazanis except as media fodder&, lurid, pix opportunities ….

Makka
Makka
October 29, 2023 1:33 pm

“We’ve allowed same-sex marriage in Australia, that was voted in a plebiscite by the Australian people

She is correct of course- repugnant as the issue is to many.

WTF did people think would happen when they happily voted in SSM? Oh yeah- Love is Love.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 29, 2023 1:33 pm

Rein in.
A phrasal verb.

Tom
Tom
October 29, 2023 1:33 pm

I believe that effective propaganda (of any type on any subject) works on differing categories of people for differing reasons. There is no-one-size-fits-all approach or method. This is important, because it is only when we analyse what works with which demographic, that we can create counter-measures.

Here’s a handy shortcut: get used to identifying factual truth* and not someone else’s lies masquerading as knowledge.

There’s a lot of bullshit about these days and there are no prizes for knowing the truth as most of the bullshit artists are in the government with the power to punish you for not going along with their bullshit.

*be sceptical of everyone and everything — just like scientists used to be — until you’re confident them and it are not threats.

Stephen Williams
Stephen Williams
October 29, 2023 1:34 pm

Everyone else posts their travelogues here, so here’s the latest on the hell cruise.
There’s 2,500 pax on board 1,200 crew. Of the pax at least 70% are obese or morbidly obese, the insulin bills must be shocking. I’ve never seen so many frail old people outside a nursing home, the number of walking sticks, walkers and electric wheelchairs is beyond counting.

Possibly 10% of the passengers are under 40, they’re mainly obese as well. There’s acres of tatts and varicose veins. About the only subject of conversation is their previous cruises or the next one. The entire ship is one huge stomach, the only purpose is to eat and drink as much as possible in the time allowed.

The staff are wonderful, nearly all are little more than indentured slaves, the pay is around $800 per month. For that they work around 12 to 14 hours a day, seven days a week, they may get a day off when in port.

This is singularly depressing way to spend $10k and lose 16 days of your life. If it hadn’t been for my wife, I would have adandonded the ship at Norfolk Island and flown home. Well it will all be over on Saturday, I would rather spend the time painting the house than spend another night on this cruise.

cohenite
October 29, 2023 1:35 pm

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Steve trickler
Oct 29, 2023 1:26 PM
What do we have this week?

—-

Fleccas Talks:

THIS WEEK IN CULTURE 169

Made 2 minutes to when the green lippie fat trannie came on giving advice about letting your kiddies dress up like it.

Chris
Chris
October 29, 2023 1:35 pm

Those of us who made brilliant choices also respect the educative power of certain stereotypes.
I spent the first couple of years of my marriage being ‘educated’ to put down the toilet lid. One day I discovered that she didn’t mean lid at all, I was kinda weird for putting down the lid. She had meant the seat.
Thirty-seven years later I was sick or injured, staggered in the dark of night into the bathroom and plunged my derriere into the unguarded porcelain pond. What a horrible experience!
Thirty-seven years to REALLY find out why the blasted seat belongs down. And that is in a GREAT marriage. Learning to accomodate each other in any partnership brings out the miscommunications and may eventually even overcome them.

Vicki
Vicki
October 29, 2023 1:36 pm

Hawke, Ergas said, stared down the strong pro-Arab forces in the ALP and unreservedly picked sides.

“If we allow the bell to be tolled for Israel,” Hawke had declared, “it will have tolled for us all.”

This should be thrown back continually in the faces of the Hamas apologists in the Labor Party. Hawke still holds the respect & awe of Labor aficionardos.

BTW that cantankerous old man, Paul Keating, has been silent on this issue, to my knowledge.

johanna
johanna
October 29, 2023 1:37 pm

Of course it can be a verb. My question is about it being used as a compound verb which is mistaken for something else. Mutliation of grammar is part of the multi-pronged attack.

For example, demanding gender changes at the drop of a hat make law enforcement and border security much more difficult.

Some big opportunities for organised crime and spies of all stripes.

Cassie of Sydney
October 29, 2023 1:38 pm

WTF did people think would happen when they happily voted in SSM

Not me, I happily voted NO to SSM.

JC
JC
October 29, 2023 1:39 pm

Williams

By the sounds of things you sound like you feel at home. Haven’t you had enough warnings from the Cat about cruises? So, stop whining.

Johnny Rotten
October 29, 2023 1:42 pm

Chris
Oct 29, 2023 12:20 PM
Maybe they could do something like the Poms did in the Falklands War.

It was actually the British.

rosie
rosie
October 29, 2023 1:44 pm

At least you don’t have gastro Stephen.
File under
The things we do for love.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 29, 2023 1:49 pm

I reckon the most annoying female statement:-

Man: What’s the matter?

Woman: Nothing.

Incoming…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 1:50 pm

cohenite
Oct 29, 2023 1:35 PM

It’s a crazy and hard to get through.

You clicking off is justified and understandable.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 1:52 pm

It’s crazy and hard clips to get through.

Vicki
Vicki
October 29, 2023 1:54 pm

This is singularly depressing way to spend $10k and lose 16 days of your life.

Man, you could have seen more of this wonderful land for a fraction of that!.

Yet, an urban (VERY urban) recently remarked that she couldn’t get over how many caravans were on the roads. “Why on earth would you go on a hellish trip in one of those things?” she said. This is a woman whose ideal holiday is an expensive hotel on Mykonos or Portofino.

Knowing I was talking to someone who would never understand, I nevertheless replied, “Freedom!”

Although we were never owners of one of the great caravans available today, we have had 3 camper trailers over the years – a Jayco (one trip only!), then an Ecotourer ( a FABULOUS off road camper – but too heavy to manoeuvre) & finally an Ultimate. The Ultimate didn’t have the shower toilet of the Eco), but was a beautifully built camper of amazing practicality and a dream to tow.

All these campers allowed us to travel comfortably all over outback Australia – including a memorable trip from our Sth coast holiday place right across Australia via the Tanami Track to Broome and then back via the Kimberley, the Barkley, Mt Isa, then down the Mitchell Hwy back to Sydney.

The one drawback for us was the almost impossibility of enjoying overnight camping solo. Even when you had located a beautiful spot on your own on the Cooper or the Diamantina, at nightfall lights would appear as, like honey to ants, our presence drew in the campers.

But touring this great land it is one of the great experiences which most of our city friends can’t comprehend.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 29, 2023 1:54 pm

we actually see it on a daily basis forced down our throats on our TV programs we watch

My edit. Like diversity quotas in advertising and actor selection you’d think every second person is in a gay relationship or mixed ethnicity relationship going on what is served up by TV.

Another example of Pauline is being led astray by Ashby. If the parents don’t like a Catholic schools values go somewhere else, like the local public school who won’t bat an eyelid.

Makka
Makka
October 29, 2023 1:58 pm

I voted NO to SSM as well cassie. But It’s a bit late now for people to whinge and moan about the consequences. It’s a fact now. The time to think about all of that was before the plebiscite.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 1:59 pm

The lady @1:44. Bang!

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Steve Inman:

Finding Out Compilation (3:45 mins)

Johnny Rotten
October 29, 2023 2:02 pm

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.

– Winston Churchill

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 29, 2023 2:04 pm

President Erdo?a said: ‘We are on the side of the oppressed’ and rebuked Israel. During his speech, which caused an outcry among the public, Erdo?an said: “From now on, we will continue on our path with the motto that we may suddenly knock on your door one night.”
28/10/23

PRAGUE: Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said Greece, and other countries that “annoyed” him, understood Ankara’s message when Turkish officials said “we may suddenly arrive one night” — a comment that Greek and some other Western officials have condemned as a threat to a neighboring state.
08/10/22

A natural gift for diplomacy.

miltonf
miltonf
October 29, 2023 2:05 pm

we actually see it on a daily basis forced down our throats on our TV programs we watch

great reason not to watch TV. Living without it is easy now- the Cat, YouTube, Breitbart, PJ Media and Spiked keep me entertained and informed.

Johnny Rotten
October 29, 2023 2:06 pm

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

– Winston Churchill

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 29, 2023 2:06 pm

Cohenite is hypothetically stuck in a narrow well with his nose just barely above the water line.
Each second 1000 litres of water gush upward from the aquifer into the well.
Luckily the village has a pump which is pumping exactly 1000 litres per second out of the well.
Then a bucket of 30 litres of water sitting precariously on the well wall is (accidentally) knocked over spilling all its contents into the well.
The last statement to be heard burbling out of the doomed Cohenite’s mouth as he sinks into Poseidon’s watery clutches?
“That full bucket is only 3% of the rate of water entering the well so it can’t possibly drow…bubblubleeebrr!”

Of course in this scenario Cohenite ultimately survives due to his ironclad indefatigable ego, which always triumphs in the face of reason and physics.

Speedbox
October 29, 2023 2:08 pm

Dover – check your email.

Cassie of Sydney
October 29, 2023 2:08 pm

I’m not sure people understand that what happened on 7 October 2023 in Southern Israel was a full blown invasion…and more than 3000 Israeli women, men, children and babies, ranging in age from 3 months to 85 years of age, were wounded, murdered, beaten, raped and brutally separated from loved ones by Palestinians from Gaza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWnnxy3elPo

Indolent
Indolent
October 29, 2023 2:13 pm
Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 29, 2023 2:15 pm

Here you go Black Ball.

Hamas alone is guilty of collective punishment

Henry Ergas

In earlier centuries, the claim was that Christian children were slaughtered so their blood could be used in Jewish rituals. Today, the claim, which echoes even in our federal parliament, is that the Jewish state, engaging in an orgy of collective punishment, slaughters innocent civilians.

To call the proponents of those accusations hypocrites would be grossly unfair. After all, hypocrisy requires a capacity to distinguish right from wrong. Falling far short of that level of moral development, Hamas’s apologists shut their eyes to the obvious: that the only collective punishment is that which Hamas has inflicted on Israelis and Palestinians alike.

And with Hamas’s stated goal – as well as that of its Iranian masters – being nothing less than genocide, Israel is fully entitled, including under the United Nations’ Genocide Convention, to take whatever steps it believes are reasonably necessary to prevent its people’s destruction.

None of that means Israel will reduce Gaza to a wasteland, as it readily could. On the contrary, few countries, if any, have rules of military engagement as focused on protecting civilian lives.

Shaped by Judaism’s tradition of pacificism – with the Talmudic sources condemning the shedding of innocent blood to an extent unparalleled in the other Abrahamic faiths, notably Islam – those rules were formed even before international humanitarian law acquired its current, far-reaching, scope.

Developed as of 1953 under the guidance of Chief Rabbi Shlomo Goren, they embedded into the Israel Defence Forces’ decision-making the Rabbinical precept that “forbearance is better than might”. Every bit as importantly, the IDF ensured the rules’ effectiveness through enforcement procedures that are exceptionally stringent by international standards, including Australia’s.

Little wonder then that Richard Goldstone, a former justice of the Constitutional Court of South Africa who chaired the 2009 UN Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict, was ultimately forced, by the sheer weight of accumulated evidence, to resile from the mission’s most widely publicised finding, which was that Israel had carried out “a deliberately disproportionate attack designed to punish, humiliate and terrorise” the people of Gaza.

And little wonder too that Goldstone, in acknowledging in April 2011 that “civilians were not intentionally targeted by Israel”, also had to concede that while Hamas “had not conducted any investigations” into its own actions, “Israel dedicated significant resources to investigating allegations of operational misconduct”.

All too predictably, Goldstone’s sweeping retractions did not lead the UN General Assembly to repudiate the mission’s report, which it had overwhelmingly endorsed, much less withdraw it from circulation; instead, its flawed claims continue to pullulate in the sordid waters of anti-Israel rhetoric.

That experience’s lessons are simple – the facts, no matter how well established, will never stop Hamas’s apologists from distorting international humanitarian law in their campaign to shield the terrorists from the consequences of their abominations.

(Photo: Monument to Immanuel Kant, Kaliningrad, Russia.)

But for all the turbulence their lawfare creates, this much is certain: the international humanitarian law that emerged from the ashes of Auschwitz was developed to prevent a repetition of the Holocaust, not to facilitate its reoccurrence. And if Israel has an abiding responsibility under that law, it is to ensure that “never again” is not a pious wish but an enduring reality.

To say that is not to suggest Israel faces easy choices: it doesn’t. But quite contrary to the Greens’ shopworn phrase that “every life has equal value”, there is no moral equivalence between the lives of those who decapitate babies, rape women and seize and torture hostages, and the lives of their current and future victims.

The holy man who refuses to kill a terrorist intent on butchering hundreds of innocents is not a saint: he is an accomplice to murder. And if the terrorist forces civilians to act as human shields, as Hamas, which places no value on human life, invariably does, capitulating to the blackmail can only increase the final toll.

The great pioneers of the law of war, who, in Immanuel Kant’s words, had “stared evil in the face”, understood that all too well.

Thus, Christian Wolff, who introduced the distinction between combatants and non-combatants in his 1749 treatise on the Law of Nations, emphasised that the distinction could only be sustained if the combatants on each side clearly demarcated themselves from their civilian counterparts; if they didn’t, they were no better than pirates, who deserved to be erased from the face of the Earth.

Equally, Emer de Vattel, whose Law of Nations (1758) is widely regarded as the basis of modern international law, left little doubt about the status of those who are “guilty of enormous breaches of the law of nations”, such as that of hiding behind captive civilians: “Enemies of the human race, who injure all nations by trampling underfoot the foundations of humanity’s common safety, they must be refused any quarter.”

It would, for sure, be better were all that far behind us: if the soaring ambitions of post-war international humanitarian law had been realised, and the mechanisms set out in the UN Charter had succeeded in abolishing Ares, the god of war and rage, altogether. That they haven’t is a tragedy; to pretend they have would be a folly. Rather, in a world where the lions show no sign of being ready to lie down with the lambs, Israel is, as were the Allies in World War II, locked in a struggle that will determine whether it survives or perishes.

To prevail, the Allies unhesitatingly deployed every means at their disposal, including a blockade immeasurably more severe than any imposed on Gaza; and by persevering without truce or pause until their adversaries were forced to their knees, they opened a freer and more prosperous future not only for the Allies but for millions of Germans and Japanese.

In exactly the same way, the road to a freer and more prosperous future for both Israelis and Palestinians runs first and foremost through the complete elimination of Hamas’s capacity to rain death and destruction on those it hates.

(Photo: Bob Hawke leaves leave the funeral for former Govenor-General Sir Zelman Cowen at Temple Beth Israel in Melbourne.)

Will mistakes be made in pursuing that goal? Undoubtedly: that is in the nature of war. But in Israel, unlike every other country in its region, a fearless press, a thriving civil society, an actively engaged citizenry and an independent judiciary that rigorously enforces the rules of war will ensure they are promptly identified, debated and corrected.

That is what Bob Hawke, who was consistently mindful of the Palestinians’ plight, so lucidly grasped in 1974, when he vehemently rejected the Whitlam government’s “morally repugnant policy of ‘even-handedness’?”.

Stressing that the Middle East conflict was part of the global attack on the democracies, he stared down the strong pro-Arab forces in the ALP and unreservedly picked sides. “If we allow the bell to be tolled for Israel,” Hawke declared, “it will have tolled for us all.”

Shining, now as then, through the darkness, those words define the litmus test of Australia’s moral compass.

Muddy
Muddy
October 29, 2023 2:15 pm

Are there any non-lethal but incapacitating weapons we know or suspect Israel has, and which may be used in the subterranean hunt?

Is there such a thing as a sound-based weapon?

I know that incapacitating chemical agents exist (hello Vicpol!), but how would distribution work in a tunnel system?

I’m thinking, of course, of the uncertainly surrounding the location of those hostages still alive (and still in g@z@). (Sadly, I would expect that a percentage might already be deceased due to the shock of capture or wounds, rough treatment, or pre-existing health conditions. Conceivably, those hostages perceived as less valuable – non-Israeli or U.S. citizens – may have been disposed of during the ‘triage’ process).

Indolent
Indolent
October 29, 2023 2:16 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 2:16 pm

I’ve never heard this song before.

Pet Shop Boys:

Pet Shop Boys – The Lost Room (Official Video)

132andBush
132andBush
October 29, 2023 2:21 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 29, 2023 11:22 AM
Today on My Lunch Break:

We go beneath the Sydney Opera House to find its true beginnings 7000 years ago, built by a giant race of masterminds using lasers and the Moon’s gravity.

That’s no moon.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 2:21 pm

bons at 11:05.

Just like the with Voice, left wing Labor has no mechanism for gauging public opinion outside their enclaves. 

I think they fell victim to their own bait and switch campaign with da Voice.
The bait was the RRRRR Recognition campaign which was sold for 6-7 years as an innocuous symbolic gesture. The switch was filling the RRRRRR Recognition show-bag will all manner of Blak Power hooks.
The idea was to do early polling based on support for RRRRRR Recognition and then hijack the high support for Recognition and represent it as a proxy for high support for the “one with the lot” Voice.
It’s one thing for them to try to sleep-walk Australian voters into the trap. It’s something else entirely to drink your own bathwater and believe the con yourself.
I would argue they had the mechanisms for qualitative research to establish if the high initial support was fragile, or at least conditional.
They chose not to, I suspect because those being paid big Voice-bucks to do the polling (hi, Dee!) knew that Luigi and Noel weren’t in the mood to accommodate turncoats within the castle walls.

Muddy
Muddy
October 29, 2023 2:23 pm

Mak Siccar
Oct 29, 2023 2:15 PM

Excellent article. Thanks for posting.

As I posted recently, self-defense includes degrading or eliminating the capacity of an enemy to repeat their aggression.

Tom
Tom
October 29, 2023 2:24 pm

Man, you could have seen more of this wonderful land for a fraction of that!.

You’re right, Vicki.

My brother runs a caravan/camper hire business and points out our knowledge of what’s available is out of date if it doesn’t take into account what’s come on the market in the past 10 years.

For an outlay that won’t break the bank, most vans now have showers, hot water storage and power to run everything from TVs to fridges. Most vans no longer even require access to power via 240v connector to the local supply.

All for under $200 per day to hire with all mod cons. Beats the hell out of hotel rates in many cases.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 2:26 pm

H B Bear

Oct 29, 2023 11:19 AM

“Tartaria”, good name for a knock shop

You mean it isn’t an Italian bakery?

French patisserie.
Haven’t you ever had a Tarte Tartarian?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 2:28 pm

132andBush
Oct 29, 2023 2:21 PM

Your faith in mainstream history is a weakness.

Sheep paddock for you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 2:28 pm

Well, well, well.
Matthew Perry started publishing stuff on Twitter about Tartarian architecture earlier this year.
Nek minnit, posts all gone and Matthew found “accidentally” drowned in his spa.

Johnny Rotten
October 29, 2023 2:29 pm

bons at 11:05.

Just like the with Voice, left wing Labor has no mechanism for gauging public opinion outside their enclaves.

They only picked Yes people for their FOCKUS Groups. In fact, Tennis Elbow and his Cronies only surround themselves with Yes people.

miltonf
miltonf
October 29, 2023 2:36 pm

Great analysis re the voice aka attempted putsch Sancho

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 29, 2023 2:38 pm

Mak Siccar
Oct 29, 2023 2:15 PM

Excellent article. Thanks for posting.

Seconded. Great piece by Ergas.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 29, 2023 2:39 pm

Muddy
Oct 29, 2023 2:15 PM

Is there such a thing as a sound-based weapon?

There is, but you may not be impressed with its performance.
It takes years of operation before the target is driven to suicide.

Muddy
Muddy
October 29, 2023 2:40 pm

Harvard J*w haters find the new rulez suck.

If this is correct, I’m loving the tactics. This is initiative. Well done.
(The latter part of the article is where the interest is).

miltonf
miltonf
October 29, 2023 2:40 pm

The great unveiling that began in 2016 has continued with the ‘voice’ with threats and abuse substituting reasoned argument.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 29, 2023 2:40 pm

That’s no moon.

It’s a trap!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 2:41 pm

Sancho Panzer
Oct 29, 2023 2:26 PM

Tartar.

Still spoken in Russia, d*ckhead. So many ignorant MSM clowns here. Ignorant clown.

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 2:42 pm

Most annoying conversation with a male

She: I think we might be lost

He: No, we’ll just go a bit further, it’s up there (points vaguely)

She: Shall I get out the map?

He: This is it! I took you on the scenic route. (Lies convincingly, but no one is fooled…evah).

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 2:46 pm

Also:

She – what would you like for dinner?

He – whatever.

Just once, just once, I’d like “a three course gourmet meal and I’ll open that special bottle of red”.

I’d cook it too, just to see the look on his face! 😀

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 29, 2023 2:46 pm

She: Shall I get out the map?

Any bloke falling for this deserves everything they get.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
October 29, 2023 2:47 pm

Understanding Hamas, Hezbollah as social movements that are progressive, that are on the Left, that are part of a global Left, is extremely important.

Quote from Judith Butler, one of the most lauded ‘intellectuals’ of weird gender myths.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 29, 2023 2:48 pm

Thanks Mak Siccar. This paragraph stood out:

The holy man who refuses to kill a terrorist intent on butchering hundreds of innocents is not a saint: he is an accomplice to murder. And if the terrorist forces civilians to act as human shields, as Hamas, which places no value on human life, invariably does, capitulating to the blackmail can only increase the final toll.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 29, 2023 2:49 pm

‘I’m cold’

Where do you find these losers? I’ve never said or done any of that. Nor have any of my friends,

Fire for effect.

I’m doing this because otherwise there will be another deluge of self-pity.

Nope. Comedy value.

Muddy
Muddy
October 29, 2023 2:51 pm

threats and abuse substituting reasoned argument.

It worked during the covidiocy.
Why change what works?

Fear.
The state should fear the people, not the reverse.
We are living ‘down under’ in more ways than one.

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 2:52 pm

Trouble is, Knuckles, I can read maps. Even when they’re upside down. My parlour trick is keeping maps in the brain (easy if you have a pictorial mental filing system).

I love to tell him we’re coming up to the left turn down “x” road and then 100 metres on the right. It’s like human GPS without the dulcet tones of English Jane.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 2:54 pm

Is there such a thing as a sound-based weapon?

A Mariah Carey Christmas CD?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 2:55 pm

Sancho Panzer
Oct 29, 2023 2:26 PM

Pretending to know what you are talking about. You are another MSM gobller.

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 2:55 pm

Someone’s having their Pa nap. Shhhhh!

Muddy
Muddy
October 29, 2023 2:57 pm

Black Ball
Oct 29, 2023 2:48 PM

352, 128 upticks to your highlighting of those two sentences.

The media in particular (with some exceptions as always), is a willing accomplice to the planned extermination of a human population. As is every individual, institution and organisation which demonstrates support for their vision, regardless of their (the supporters’) motivation.

Ignorance is not an excuse in a court of law.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 2:57 pm

Please Tickler, I’m on your side here.
The Tarte Tartarian thing was just a bad pun.
I believe the Tartarian view of history deserves to be heard.

JC
JC
October 29, 2023 2:58 pm

From my twitter feed. Funny if it wasn’t so tragic and true. Ironically, Israel is the only hope.

The Middle East looks like a murder-suicide situation. The only wrinkle is people don’t agree who is the murderer and who is the suicide.

It’s obviously not fixable.

In the long run, the entire region is unlikely to be habitable.

If you disagree, describe any other possible outcome without sounding under-informed.

rosie
rosie
October 29, 2023 2:59 pm

Thinking about the Thomas Sowell proposition in relation to progressive thinking, that Kirin mentioned in relation to the Hamas massacre, that with a bit of this and a bit of that we will arrive at the progressive utopia station, the same applies to the proposal that spending 3.5 million ‘educating’ boys will end male violence.
It won’t though will it, it might lead to unintended consequences but it is based on the same premise, the same wishful thinking.
Absolutely certain that some Israelis (peaceniks) who dedicated their lives to improving life for Gazans got the rudest of awakenings on the 7th of October, that no goodness or kindness could ever be enough, for too many other western progressives it will take a similar experience to face reality.
Not surprisingly the people they make excuse after excuse for don’t share their world view.
Ultimately progressives think that somehow, but mainly through their own superior ability, they can free the world from (progressive) sin.
Good luck with that.
concupiscence, our inclination to sin

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 3:01 pm

Bother. Spoke too soon.

In other news, just looked up Judith Butler. Indescribable. She’s my age, and I know that as you get older you tend to get a bit androgynous. A bit.

But seriously, you wouldn’t mistake me for a bloke.

She’s the female version of Steve Tyler.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 29, 2023 3:02 pm

So many ignorant MSM clowns here

Not me. Prepare to be educated.

For those who know – I mean really know – Tartaria was a Rebel Alliance stronghold for a cohort who were able to flee Alderaan, a matter of minutes before it was destroyed by the Death Star.

For a while they prospered, as they had escaped the fate of fellow rebels in Hoth. They built, bred, and hoped. They built structures and empires that make today’s achievements seem like something you’d get from a showbag.

Then, in the manner of the Romans after them they became decadent, and then sedentary – lost in the stories of the former greatness of their people.

Finally, in what later became marketed as the Great Mud Flood, a Tartarian fat chick riven by jealousy sliced open a gigantic above-ground pool.

The ensuing disaster erased that civilisation, the pool’s location later came to be known as the Black Sea and the Tartarians never lived to see the final destruction of the Empire.

Vale, Tartaria.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 3:02 pm

Sancho Panzer

Give us commentary on Sky News. They are as useful as tits on bull.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 29, 2023 3:02 pm

Johnny Rotten
Oct 29, 2023 1:42 PM
Chris
Oct 29, 2023 12:20 PM
Maybe they could do something like the Poms did in the Falklands War.

It was actually the British.

Gurkhas and Welsh Guards (with white officers, of course – old joke about the Welsh) were there.

cohenite
October 29, 2023 3:03 pm

Colonel Crispin Berka
Oct 29, 2023 2:06 PM
Cohenite is hypothetically stuck in a narrow well with his nose just barely above the water line.
Each second 1000 litres of water gush upward from the aquifer into the well.

I had this shit analogy thrown at me many years ago when Tim Lambert was running the Deltoid blog. As I said and as I’ll say again very slowly as you do when you are talking to a 5 year old smart arse: the 30 litres of human water (CO2) does not control the 1000 litres of natural water (CO2) because natural emissions of CO2 are not balanced with natural sinks or absorption of natural CO2. The 1000 litres of natural water (CO2) is NEVER matched by 1000 litres of absorption. So the argument that the unnatural human CO2 must be responsible for all the increase in CO2 because nature is balanced is a Disney idea; that is a duck quacking.

As well you CANNOT distinguish between human C12 CO2 and natural C12 CO2; so again saying human CO2 which is all C12 is responsible for all the increase in CO2 is saying you can.

Things for you to do:

Research Airbourne Fraction
CO2 isotopes
CO2 residency
CO2 sink saturation

Again, on a personal note, get fuked.

JC
JC
October 29, 2023 3:03 pm

Scenario.

Summer 24 in the US. Trump’s position in the polls looks unassailable and the Demons plus the ugly deep state are muttering that they can’t allow Trump back in the white House.

If not jail, which wouldn’t stop him winning, what do they do? I suspect Trump’s plane could have an accident of some sort. It’s not a prediction, but they will try on some serious shit.

rosie
rosie
October 29, 2023 3:04 pm

No its not fixable, the middle east has to be managed, if it’s not actively managed the malignancy will spread.
Every time there has been a terror attack in the west I feel like there only one choice at the end, the Ferdinand and Isabella one, convert or leave.

Megan
Megan
October 29, 2023 3:04 pm

I hope the Israelis tell erdogan if turks step foot in gaza the Hagia Sophia will no longer exist. To start with.

I hope they start by reducing the Temple Mount Mosque to rubble. It’s built on the ruins of a Christian church over the site of the razed First Temple. It’s Jewish all the way down. If it’s good enough to convert the Hagia Sofia to a mosque it’s good enough to convert* that particular mosque to a temple.

*Prefer demolishment. Who would want, Christian or Jew, to worship in an ex-mosque?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 3:04 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 29, 2023 3:02 PM
So many ignorant MSM clowns here

Not me. Prepare to be educated.

What a load off shit.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 29, 2023 3:09 pm

Indolent
Oct 29, 2023 2:13 PM
The dangers of ‘decolonisation’

On the subject of “decolonisation”, why are recently arrived “people of colour” ranting about “decolonising” British universities? Shouldn’t they be decolonising by leaving the UK?

And same in other western nations – shouldn’t recent arrivals start the decolonisation process by returning to their homelands?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 3:10 pm

Why are you cranky with me, Tickler?
I seem to be one of the few here who is broad-minded enough to consider that the Tartarian view of history is entirely plausible and concede the improbability that some of those structures could have been built using the known technology existing at the time.
Erich von Daniken, of course, tried to divert attention from Tartarian theory by claiming that it was all the work of aliens.
Erich is just a patsy for Big History and the MSM, whether he knows it or not.

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 3:10 pm

Hagia Sophia to stay. It’s a defaced church with a lousy paint job.

The Blue Mosque – a bloated, recent copy of the sublime original. Mark it with an X.

Personally, I’d prefer the entire population to surrender their warlike animosities and, if called, convert.

132andBush
132andBush
October 29, 2023 3:11 pm

What a load off shit.

Sounded plausible to me.

Chris
Chris
October 29, 2023 3:12 pm

She’s the female version of Steve Tyler.

Has she got a daughter? Liv Tyler has a halo effect sufficient to make Steve look… almost handsome.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 3:12 pm

FYI, Tickler I don’t watch Sky news.

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 3:14 pm

My favourite Steven Tyler meme.

There’s another similar with Axl Rose and Mickey Rourke.

rosie
rosie
October 29, 2023 3:17 pm

Id be happy to see that mosque go, anyhow.
One of the things Spain did in the reconquista, replace about every single mosque with a church. I think Cordoba cathedral is the only exception and given it was built almost entirely with purloined Roman and Visigoth materials an acceptable decision.
You can see repurposed Roman and muslim grave stones in the walls of a number of Christian churches in Spain, even in the walls around the city of Toledo (some numbskull is bound to now start squealing about tartaria)

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 29, 2023 3:17 pm

Colonel Crispin Berka
Oct 29, 2023 2:39 PM
Muddy
Oct 29, 2023 2:15 PM

Is there such a thing as a sound-based weapon?

There is, but you may not be impressed with its performance.
It takes years of operation before the target is driven to suicide.

Their ABC???

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 29, 2023 3:17 pm

Sancho Panzer
Oct 29, 2023 3:10 PM
Why are you cranky with me, Tickler?

Not at all cranky. All the best. Don’t play me with shit from the MSM.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 3:21 pm

Steve trickler

Oct 29, 2023 3:17 PM

Sancho Panzer
Oct 29, 2023 3:10 PM
Why are you cranky with me, Tickler?

Not at all cranky. All the best. Don’t play me with shit from the MSM.

When did I do that?
I posted a couple of supportive remarks about Tartarian theory and one poor taste pun about Tarte Tartarian.
It wasn’t meant to be hurtful.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 29, 2023 3:22 pm

JC
Oct 29, 2023 2:58 PM
From my twitter feed. Funny if it wasn’t so tragic and true. Ironically, Israel is the only hope.

The Middle East looks like a murder-suicide situation. The only wrinkle is people don’t agree who is the murderer and who is the suicide.

It’s obviously not fixable.

In the long run, the entire region is unlikely to be habitable.

Thai will only occur if the Muslims get their way, Masada falls again and Operation Samson is implemented.

Cassie of Sydney
October 29, 2023 3:22 pm

Please watch, this is what happened in

The hero of Kibbutz Kissufim who repelled dozens of Hamas terrorists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddEw8lY4IPs

Tough Jews.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 29, 2023 3:22 pm

That, not Thai!!!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 29, 2023 3:23 pm

The Tunguska Event in 1908 was a failed reconnaissance, carried out by an Imperial droid responding to faint Tartarian emergency communications signals from its long-abandoned bunker complex.

The Tartarians’ automated anti-incursion systems still worked – testament to its craftsmanship from thousands of years ago.

They very last ion cannon round destroyed both the recon droid on approach, as well as the bunker complex itself.

Of course, you won’t read about this in the MSM.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 29, 2023 3:25 pm

Nice bushfire going near us atm. Smoke everywhere and not helped by a strong easterly. Sirens a plenty but it is in a creek system and they aren’t getting there. Seen worse just usually in August when it is cooler.

Houses bordering the creek reserve busy watering down fences & roofs. Gawd what a dismal transition to the wet season.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 3:26 pm

132andBush

Oct 29, 2023 3:11 PM

What a load off shit.

Sounded plausible to me.

you wooden no

leave tickler alone

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 29, 2023 3:27 pm

rosie
Oct 29, 2023 3:04 PM
No its not fixable, the middle east has to be managed, if it’s not actively managed the malignancy will spread.
Every time there has been a terror attack in the west I feel like there only one choice at the end, the Ferdinand and Isabella one, convert or leave.

Think of it as part of the movement towards decolonisation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 29, 2023 3:28 pm

KD at 3:23.
You cannot be serious.
I suspect you are just trying to get a rise out of Tickler.

JC
JC
October 29, 2023 3:28 pm

This is one reason why I love NYC.

https://t.co/Bcni0Tlwth?ssr=true

C.L.
C.L.
October 29, 2023 3:30 pm
billie
billie
October 29, 2023 3:31 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 29, 2023 2:46 PM
She: Shall I get out the map?

Any bloke falling for this deserves everything they get.

True story, I was there in the backseat – she insists on reading the map while he drives, gets to a T-intersection on flat ground, in a desert.

“Which way sweetie?” he asks

“Up” .. our road meets a long road running top to bottom of the map.

She was the head of a NSW government department at the time.

Looks were exchanged ..

P
P
October 29, 2023 3:32 pm

CATHOLICS AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM
by Mary Eberstadt
10 . 27 . 23

On October 7, the terrorist organization Hamas decided to follow the Nazi playbook once more. As one observer of World War II put it, the Nazis “ripped the lid off Hell.” That’s what Hamas did. It ripped the lid off Hell. The comparison is inescapable. As noted earlier in this gathering, the Catholic moral record during World War II and the Holocaust was mixed. There were outstanding exceptions. But many European Christians, and others, back then and elsewhere in history, wronged our older brothers and sisters in faith. Many did not view the bond that tethers Catholics and Jews as unbreakable, but as one to escape when loopholes like war or personal advantage presented themselves.
.

Since October 7, many universities in the United States and elsewhere have disgraced themselves. Some students sided openly with the murder of innocents. Some administrators stayed mute out of cowardice. As is more visible with each passing day, it is not the atheists or agnostics of the world who can be counted on to have the backs of Jews, or others, needing aid and solidarity. Rather, it is other people of the Book.
.

The newly founded Coalition of Catholics Against Antisemitism is the spearhead of that new cause. A Statement of Solidarity and Action stating the aims of this group is now making the rounds. Catholics in public life and from private life are signing on, from academia to government to think tanks, to Catholic colleges and universities, and Catholics of every vocation to come.

Hamas and the other enemies of the Jewish people who revel in killing often say, scornfully, “the Jews love life.” So they do. And so do we. To love life as Catholics do is to love the Jews from whose roots we grew. Many people these days ask where the pro-life movement is now. The answer is, where it’s always been: fighting against the destruction of the innocent, from conception to natural death.

There is more than enough room in that loving formulation to include under its protective umbrella the people of the Covenant. From now on, so be it. Fellow Catholics: Go show the world what being our brothers’ and sisters’ keepers really means.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 29, 2023 3:34 pm

KD at 3:23.
You cannot be serious.

I am extremely serious. The Tartarians were a race of giants as well.

Consider – the Ewoks had an average height of seven feet. Some of the trees on Endor were over two kilometres high.

The Tartarians had to be sixteen feet, minimum. No wonder they could lift all that stone.

miltonf
miltonf
October 29, 2023 3:34 pm

Pence- good riddance to bad rubbish. What a stinker.

JC
JC
October 29, 2023 3:35 pm

Hahahahaha

So true

Normal person: This dude is awesome and gives me hope.

Leftist: This racist deplorable exhibits his white privilege, toxic masculinity, and Islamophobia by verbally assaulting a freedom fighter of color who was peacefully protesting colonialism. He should be fired and shunned.

132andBush
132andBush
October 29, 2023 3:36 pm

They very last ion cannon

Please!

It’s “Giant boob-nipple gun”.

Vicki
Vicki
October 29, 2023 3:39 pm

Hagia Sophia to stay. It’s a defaced church with a lousy paint job.

I love the Hagia Sophia, and would be devastated if it was destroyed. So much history.

Likewise, I agree with Rosie that the cathedral/mosque at Cordoba in Spain is an astonishing collection of the holy structures of both Christianity, Islam with also Roman structural overlays. Actually, the fact that both Christian and Islamic architecture have been permitted by past occupants and celebrants to remain makes it a very special place.

C.L.
C.L.
October 29, 2023 3:40 pm

To love life as Catholics do is to love the Jews from whose roots we grew.

I will not be praying for “peace” this Friday – as the Australian bishops are asking Catholics to do (on behalf of the pope whose idea it was).

I will be praying for total, unconditional victory to Israel and humbly petitioning God more generally for victory over the evil Mohammedan cult.

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 3:52 pm

C.L., my prayer is for complete surrender and return of the hostages. While hope remains, I want them freed.

Muddy
Muddy
October 29, 2023 3:54 pm

Peace in the Middle East is as likely as a dog & a sandwich toaster agreeing on the most influential gangster-rap album of 1824.

JC
JC
October 29, 2023 4:04 pm

The only problem you have with my Twitter sources is that they contradict the favoured line you’re getting from your own sources. As to confirmation, do you expect the US is going to admit that it suffered death or injuries to troops in Syria (illegally) or Iraq? No, it’s remaining silent.

I don’t have a “problem” in as much as they seem all anon and carry less weight than the also unreliable media. At least there’s a masthead and a name to a story, which is not the case on Twitter.

Actually I don’t for a second expect the US to remain silent if it suffered dozens of casualties . The US leaks like a sieve on these matters.

I don’t have a favoured position. I disagreed with your view that the US would abandon the MidEast on account of what you described.

How does that have anything to do with US capabilities v Iran? The missile attack on its bases in Syria and Iraq are indicative of the vulnerability of those bases. How does that imply I’m suggesting Iran is impenetrable?

Really? You suggested the US would abandon bases for coming under missile fire and you’re now asking what that has to do with US capabilities? Surely, you’re not serious.

US retreat would most certainly suggest that.

Let me remind you, that Iran is massively vulnerable to a US attack and sooner or later that’s going to happen because the Americans aren’t going to tolerate an Iranian proxy war.

Frank
Frank
October 29, 2023 4:05 pm

This sounds like it was unfortunate.

Matthew Perry Nearly Died After His Colon Burst From Opioid Abuse

BACK IN 2018, Matthew Perry spent several months in a hospital, saying only at the time that he suffered a gastrointestinal perforation. Now, in a new interview with People ahead of the publication of his new memoir, the Friends star explains that during that hospital stay, he nearly died after his colon burst from opioid abuse.

rosie
rosie
October 29, 2023 4:12 pm

According to Twitter Perry was a victim of the vaccine.
His history of drug abuse irrelevant.

rosie
rosie
October 29, 2023 4:14 pm

Al jiz.
Apparently Tracey Holmes thinks al jiz is the bees knees for terrorism reporting.

Hamas’s leader in the Gaza Strip, Yahya Sinwar, says the group is ready for an “immediate” prisoner swap with Israel.

JC
JC
October 29, 2023 4:24 pm

Apparently, there’s an epic South Park episode that’s just come out making fun of woke Disney. Supposedly, it’s devastatingly funny.

I can’t get to it to find a link though.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 29, 2023 4:30 pm

Next time the ABC is called to the principle’s office at Senate Estimates, they should be challenged on their uncritical acceptance of claims coming from Hamas which need to be walked back when the facts come out. They ought to at least add the context that the Palis frequently exaggerate or fabricate for propaganda purposes.

There is the saying that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth gets its pants on, we’ll Hamas knows its lies will get on to every major network and masthead before the Israelis are able to methodically investigate, for satellites to pass overhead, or corroborating (well, contradicting) evidence is compiled.

I would not be surprised if they hid behind the attitude that if other sources found it credible then they grant reports credence too, but if all networks and papers just source each other, then who is responsible for j’istic rigour? For $1 billion a year maybe the ABC should try being the voice of reason.

You know the ABC will stain their daks at words like ‘reason’ and ‘verify’ and ‘standards’.

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 4:32 pm

I can only get the South Park teaser. “Joining the Panderverse”.

Paramount +

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 29, 2023 4:33 pm

I can’t get to it to find a link though.

I believe it only came out on Paranount+ a day or so ago.

Apparently they really go to town on Kathleen Kennedy.

calli
calli
October 29, 2023 4:34 pm

I suppose it’s less actionable than “Joining the Groomerverse”.

Cassie of Sydney
October 29, 2023 4:34 pm

More tough Jews….the attack on the south of Israel was unbelievable…

Israeli Who Beat Off Palestinian Attackers in a Hamas Attack: “I’m a Reborn Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOQO2VW-O_o

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 29, 2023 4:36 pm

Indolent
Oct 29, 2023 2:16 PM

An unusual headline for the NYT. Paywalled.

As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies

Hamas has spent years stockpiling desperately needed fuel, food and medicine, as well as ammo and weapons, in the miles of tunnels it has carved out under Gaza.

As supplies of virtually every basic human necessity dwindle in Gaza, one group in the besieged enclave remains well-stocked: Hamas.

Arab and Western officials say there is substance to Israeli claims of Hamas stockpiling supplies, including desperately needed food and fuel. Hamas, they say, has spent years building dozens of kilometers of tunnels under the strip where it has amassed stores of virtually everything needed for a drawn-out fight. It is a reality that Israel may soon find itself grappling with if it makes good on its threat to invade Gaza.

Hamas has hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel for vehicles and rockets; caches of ammunition, explosives and materials to make more; and stockpiles of food, water and medicine, the officials said.

A senior Lebanese official said Hamas, which is estimated to number between 35,000 and 40,000, had enough stocked away to keep fighting for three to four months without resupply.

One of the four Israeli hostages released by Hamas even described the group providing captives with medicine, shampoo and feminine hygiene products.

All are now said to be extraordinarily scarce in Gaza more than two weeks after Israel, aided by Egypt, imposed what it called a “complete” blockade following the attack by the terrorist group on Oct. 7.

The Arab and Western officials who described Hamas’s supply situation all spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were disclosing information gleaned from human sources, communications intercepts and other streams of intelligence.

The stockpiles are typically kept underground, they said, and cautioned that precise details on Hamas’s supplies were difficult to come by.

While the blockade has left Gaza’s roughly 2 million people scraping by with what little food and water they scrounge up, it does not yet appear to have begun to degrade Hamas’s ability to fight.

The group has launched hundreds of rockets at Israel since the blockade began and have fended off preliminary Israeli incursions into the enclave.

The supply situation speaks to the relative sophistication of Hamas as a fighting force — an axiom among military professionals is that while amateurs talk about tactics, professionals talk about logistics.

Yet with Gazans facing a humanitarian catastrophe, Hamas’s stockpiles raise questions about what responsibility, if any, it has to the civilian population.

History abounds of well-supplied armies fighting on the front lines while the home front went hungry. Germans, for instance, endured what became known as the “Turnip Winter” at the height of World War I, even as the Kaiser’s armies were well provisioned. They eventually lost and the German Empire fell.

Hamas has said little of its supply situation — combatants rarely do — but the government it runs in Gaza says it has an emergency fuel stockpile that is quickly being depleted. “Hospitals, the ambulances and fire fighters’ machinery and civil defense trucks have been using the government emergency fuel store,” said Salama Marouf, who runs the government’s media office in Gaza.

But those fuel stockpiles are separate from and far smaller than the 211,000 to 264,000 gallons of gasoline and diesel that the Israeli military says Hamas has on hand.

Fuel has taken on growing importance in recent days. Israel has so far refused to allow any fuel to be delivered to Gaza, even as other aid begins to trickle in, leaving much of the enclave without electricity to power hospitals, desalinate or pump water, fire bakers’ ovens and run internet and cellphone services.

The United Nations, which handles the bulk of humanitarian relief work in Gaza, said on Thursday that it “has almost exhausted its fuel reserves and begun to significantly reduce its operations.”

Asked about the situation, Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, an Israeli military spokesman, told reporters that if Gazans or the United Nations need fuel, they should get it from Hamas.

“Hamas has fuel but has different priorities — to provide ventilation and air for its tunnel system, for firing rockets, command and control,” he said on Thursday.

Neither the Arab nor the Western officials offered estimates anywhere as detailed as what the Israelis claim. And with only a trickle of aid beginning to reach Gaza, Hamas does not appear to be replenishing its stores, they said.

“But they are very careful in using what they have because they will be using it for long periods,” said Samir Ghattas, an Egyptian strategic analyst who closely monitors Gaza.

That certainly appears to be the case with food. Yocheved Lifshitz, 85, a freed hostage, said that while in captivity she ate the same single meal that Hamas fighters eat every day: pita bread with two kinds of cheese and cucumber.

Mr. Ghattas said there was little chance that Hamas would be willing to provide food or any other kinds of supplies to aid civilians. “The Hamas movement cares only about the Hamas movement,” he said. “The public of Gaza mean absolutely nothing for Hamas.”

Hamas has grown adept at manufacturing its own weapons in underground bunkers and shielding them from Israel’s advanced surveillance systems, the Lebanese official said.

So the smuggling routes that Hamas once relied on, through an intricate network of tunnels to Egypt, have become less relevant.

Hamas has also raised money by taxing the Palestinian population that lives in Gaza, making outside support less relevant than before.

Roger
Roger
October 29, 2023 4:36 pm

For $1 billion a year maybe the ABC should try being the voice of reason.

They’d only reply that they needed more funding to do so.

Rabz it.

Dot
Dot
October 29, 2023 4:36 pm

Like ‘I chose her because she had spectacular tits, but when it turned out she didn’t have a PhD, I was shattered.’

No man with a penis has ever said that.

Crossie
Crossie
October 29, 2023 4:38 pm

Another example of Pauline is being led astray by Ashby. If the parents don’t like a Catholic schools values go somewhere else, like the local public school who won’t bat an eyelid.

Once Hanson kicked Latham to the kerb it was obvious she was letting Ashby direct her policy. This will cost her dearly with the conservative base.

cohenite
October 29, 2023 4:40 pm

Krispin is persisting with his nonsense about whether human emissions of CO2 are responsible for all the increase in CO2. He is a nong. He is a great article by professor Bob Cormack and some other dude about this very issue:

https://australianclimatesceptics.com/?p=1

Here are a couple of PR papers which address the issue:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0921818112001658

https://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/article/10.11648.j.ijaos.20190301.13

Dot
Dot
October 29, 2023 4:40 pm

Well, the Japanese adore and are among the best exponents of Western classical music. It’s not that simple.

It flows into pop culture.

The music in Zelda, Final Fantasy, Secret of Mana and Mario games can superb.

Angel’s Fear played by an orchestra is enough to make the hair stand on the back of your neck. It’s truly epic.

Dot
Dot
October 29, 2023 4:41 pm

can be

miltonf
miltonf
October 29, 2023 4:42 pm

I think Pauline has been away from the fish and chips shop too long. Attacking one of her best assets was a very bad look.

slackster
slackster
October 29, 2023 4:42 pm

For those after the South Park episode-Here you go:

https://fmoviesz.to/movie/south-park-joining-the-panderverse-4wqrk

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 29, 2023 4:44 pm

CL:

I will be praying for total, unconditional victory to Israel and humbly petitioning God more generally for victory over the evil Mohammedan cult.

A positive statement.
Ditto.

miltonf
miltonf
October 29, 2023 4:45 pm

Couldn’t believe it at first tbh.

Dot
Dot
October 29, 2023 4:46 pm

Is the PM now a monarch?

FFS. ‘reign’ is not a verb. ‘Rein in’ is a compound verb, referring to the handling of horses.

The ignorance and illiteracy, it burns.

Could you please explain to me please why “rein those horses in” isn’t a compound verb effectively, or whatever the correct term for such a sub species is.

I’m not great alongside with seperating the sacred and the propane.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 29, 2023 4:47 pm

More Backbone than the Australian Labor Party

Czech defense minister calls for country’s withdrawal from UN

The resolution did not include a condemnation of Hamas’s attack on Israel

Czech Defense Minister Jana ?ernochová expressed outrage at a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for Israel to cease its operations in the Gaza Strip and called for the Czech Republic to withdraw from the UN on Saturday.

“I know that today is an important day for [the Czech Republic] and we want to celebrate our 105th anniversary. But this simply cannot be time-barred, forgive me.

Exactly three weeks ago, Hamas murdered more than 1,400 Israelis, which is more victims per their population than the militant Islamist organization al-Qaeda murdered on 9/11/2001 in the USA.

And only 14 countries, including ours, stood up against the unprecedented terrorist attack committed by Hamas terrorists, clearly and comprehensibly! I am ashamed of the UN.

In my opinion – the Czech Republic has nothing to expect in an organization that supports terrorists and does not respect the basic right to self-defense. Let’s get out.”

The UNGA resolution approved on Friday called for an “immediate, durable and sustained humanitarian truce leading to a cessation of hostilities.”

The resolution did not include a condemnation of Hamas’s attack on Israel nor a mention of Hamas in a line calling for the release of the hostages.

The resolution was approved by 121 countries in favor and only 14 against.

Czech Foreign Ministry says UNGA resolution missing ‘several key elements’

The Czech Foreign Ministry stated that the Czech Republic voted against the resolution because “several key elements were missing from the text” including a condemnation of Hamas’s attack and a recognition of Israel’s right to defend itself.

“The resolution doesn’t provide assurances that the delivery of the urgent humanitarian assistance is not abused by Hamas and other terrorists.

If we are not clear about the need to stop terrorism, we are not making progress towards the desired peace in the Middle East,” said the Foreign Ministry.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 29, 2023 4:49 pm

Is the PM now a monarch?

The rain begins.

Tom
Tom
October 29, 2023 4:52 pm

I think Pauline has been away from the fish and chips shop too long. Attacking one of her best assets was a very bad look.

Whatever you think about whatever comes out of her mouth, Pauline Hanson has forged a well-paid 30+-year political career out of being a contrarian, without once ever having been responsible for delivering government.

Loooxury.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 29, 2023 4:52 pm

‘The reign, in Spain, stays’….

Wait. Wait.

132andBush
132andBush
October 29, 2023 4:54 pm

I can only get the South Park teaser. “Joining the Panderverse”.

That looks hilarious!

Dot
Dot
October 29, 2023 4:56 pm

Friends star Matthew Perry, who charmed millions of TV fans as comic character Chandler Bing, has died at the age of 54.

It wasn’t his week, month or even his year.

John H.
John H.
October 29, 2023 4:57 pm

Golan Heights: Israel’s Legendary Tank Defence Against Syria

For the military buffs. Anyone who thinks quantity is a quality: superior leadership, superior training, superior morale, mocks that argument.

Dot
Dot
October 29, 2023 4:58 pm

Looks like I upset a man with no penis above.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 29, 2023 4:59 pm

The UN has become a sick joke

It’s not just on Israel that the organisation has shown its true face, but on China too

ZOE STRIMPEL

When arguing Israel’s case, including the legitimacy and indeed moral rectitude of its present attempts to annihilate Hamas, my opponents often throw at me what they imagine to be authoritative arguments against the Jewish state.

These almost always begin with a reference to “international law violations”.

They are unmoved when it is pointed out that Israel is the only party in this conflict actually committed to following international law.

They seem to think that international law prohibits the country from doing absolutely anything at all to defend itself from attack.

Their other favoured tactic, however, is to draw on the supposed authority of the UN – as if the organisation was somehow a neutral observer.

It is not, as the past few days have made painfully clear.

The UN never appears to miss a chance to undermine Israel. But last week, its behaviour was absolutely chilling.

With Israelis still in shock at Hamas’s savage, barbaric attacks (it’s a small country so everyone knows someone who was harmed or killed), Antonio Guterres, the UN secretary-general, declared that the atrocities did “not happen in a vacuum”.

Translation: it was Israel’s fault.

Israel responded to these comments with fury, as any victim would when the authorities blame them for what had happened.

It was like the police telling a woman who has just been raped that rapists don’t operate “in a vacuum”.

Since at least the 1970s, when it passed a resolution declaring that Zionism is a form of racism (1975), and perhaps long before that too, the UN General Assembly has played host to attempts to promote the most grotesque lies and hatred against the Jewish state it helped bring into creation with Resolution 181 in 1947.

“Since Israel’s establishment, Arab member states of the UN have used the General Assembly as a forum for isolating and chastising Israel,” notes the Anti Defamation League. “With [widespread] support, the Arab states have had little difficulty passing harsh anti-Israel resolutions through the GA.”

Such pressure has resulted in the establishment of such UN bodies as The Division for Palestinian Rights, the Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Practices Affecting the Human Rights of the Palestinian People and Other Arabs of the Occupied Territories, and the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People.

Is there an equivalent body that stands up for the rights of Israeli people to live free of terror? I thought not.

Meanwhile, resolution after resolution is passed condemning Israel as a barrier to peace, while too often neglecting Palestinian leaders’ own role in avoiding good faith talks.

The despicable Jordanian resolution passed on Friday calling for a ceasefire, while making no reference to Hamas, was par for the course.

But it’s not just on Israel that the UN has become a malign joke. No, the bureaucrats who run this once-hopeful organisation have shown themselves to be worryingly weak in the face of evil more generally.

Guterres himself, while busy taking sides in the Israel-Hamas battle, has been cosying up to the Chinese, the other week making an appearance at the Belt and Road Forum in Beijing.

There, he earnestly praised the “shared” goals of the UN’s sustainable development programme and China’s “One Belt, One Road” initiative – a terrifying imperial power-grab by the Chinese dictatorship that has been accused of leaving many poorer countries in a form of debt bondage.

“Both strive to create opportunities, global public goods and win-win cooperation,” Guterres droned on. “And both aim to deepen ‘connectivity’ across countries and regions: connectivity in infrastructure, trade, finance, policies and, perhaps most important of all, among peoples”.

From anyone else purporting to be a serious figure on the world stage, these would be bizarre words of praise for the leading project of a totalitarian state bent on destabilising the West by any means.

But from the UN? It’s just another day at the office.

One particularly egregious body is the UN Human Rights Council.

A glance at its current make-up shows the utter madness, the moral topsy-turviness, and the futility of the organisation.

It’s packed with countries with an ignominious approach to human rights, from China to Qatar to Somalia and Cameroon and Bolivia (currently a vice president of the Council).

Perhaps given the decline of Western power, all this was inevitable.

But it remains a terrible shame. After World War Two there was a sense of urgency and goodwill – or at least the pretence of it – because of the shocking nature of the previous 50 years.

It was in this context that the UN came into being: to promote stability and peace.

The project has now become a stomping ground for those who hate both those things, and who want badly to destroy them.

There is an irony to Guterres’ insistence that Hamas didn’t rape and murder children and the elderly “in a vacuum”.

For someone so keen on context, he ought to be reflecting on the context of his own organisation, and the traumatic and damaging long-term effects it’s had both on Jews and its ability to do anything helpful in the world at all.

Woke-heads cry for the defunding of the police. Perhaps we should now be thinking about defunding the UN.

Why should we be paying for an organisation that too often actively seems to want to do our countries and our values harm?

bons
bons
October 29, 2023 5:02 pm

I thought that Rain was Rudd’s wife.

Dot
Dot
October 29, 2023 5:03 pm

Johnny Rotten
Oct 29, 2023 11:26 AM
Rufus T Firefly
Oct 29, 2023 11:02 AM
Is english not your first language Dot?

Dotty Dot of Dottiness once posted here that the peoples of Southern Scotland (the Lowlands) were essentially English. And then there was all that rubbish about Anglo Saxons. FFS.

The Scots take their heritage from five different ethnic groups. Look it up.

The problem for you, is that the DNA evidence, proper understanding of Bede’s polemic writing and modern linguistics (and comparisons to old pre Roman place names) support this theory, along with Anglo Saxon kings having “Celtic” names for hundreds of years. The name changes and raids by North men are linked to alliances with the Frankish and Holy Roman Imperial houses being in conflict with the actual Saxons.

Read a book for once in your life instead of ridiculous “newsletters”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 29, 2023 5:04 pm

She: Shall I get out the map?

Not having driven for 12 months in the UK and with my Mother navigating (pre Google Maps) to return the hire car to central Manchester did result in some fruity language being used.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 29, 2023 5:05 pm

here’s the latest on the hell cruise.

We just had the opposite on Viking recently, Steve.

What cruise line is it?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 29, 2023 5:05 pm

Germans, for instance, endured what became known as the “Turnip Winter” at the height of World War I, even as the Kaiser’s armies were well provisioned.

So “well provisioned” that major elements of the March/April 1918 offensives broke down when German soldiers found and looted the huge allied stocks of food, medicines and booze.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 29, 2023 5:06 pm

Another Labor Loving Palestinian Hamas Terrorism Suporter

Paul Keating declines to sign former Prime Ministers’ joint statement supporting Israel and condemning Hamas

Paul Keating has declined to sign a joint statement condemning Hamas, declaring reports he would be part of a joint statement from Australia’s seven former PMs “untrue” and “without foundation”.

Paul Keating has declined to be part of a joint statement supporting Israel and condemning Hamas.

The Herald Sun reported on Sunday that Australia’s seven living former prime ministers were set to sign a joint letter stating their support for Israel and laying the blame for the current conflict at the feet of the Gaza-based terrorist group.

The letter, organised by the Zionist Federation of Australia, comes just three weeks after Hamas launched a large-scale attack on October 7 killing more than 1,400 Israelis – mostly civilians – and taking hundreds more hostage.

But in a statement on Sunday, former prime minister Keating said he would not be signing the joint letter, calling the report “untrue” and “without foundation”.

“Today’s Melbourne Herald Sun carries a story that, along with other former Australian Prime Ministers, I will be a signature to a statement drafted by The Zionist Federation of Australia, condemning the attack by Hamas on Israel,” Mr Keating said.

The former Labor leader and Prime Minister from 1991 to 1996 said former Zionist Federation president Mark Leibler had contacted him about the letter but he had declined to be involved.

“Mark Leibler contacted me earlier last week proposing the prospective joint statement for my agreement and signature,” Mr Keating said.

“I told Leibler in a written message that I would not be agreeing to join other former Prime Ministers in authorising the statement. That remains my position.”

Mr Keating’s position puts him at odds with former Labor Prime Ministers Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard, as well as the former Liberal holders of the office, John Howard, Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull.

The decision further highlights division among the Labor Party over the Israel-Palestine conflict, with senior Labor minister Tony Burke recently failing to refute suggestions of “genocide” and “apartheid” levelled against Israel.

Joining ABC RN on Friday, the Employment and Workplace Relations Minister said he did not want to “get into a debate about labels” and that “listeners will find their own words” to describe situation occurring in Israel and Palestine.

Minister Burke also backed the Canterbury-Bankstown Local Council’s decision to fly the Palestinian flag until a cease fire is declared – a decision Jewish groups compared to flying the German flag after Kristallnacht or the Taliban flag after September 11.

Speaking to Sky News Australia’s Sunday Agenda, opposition leader Peter Dutton said Mr Burke was, “to his great shame”, playing to a constituency within his electorate rather than acting in the national interest.

“He’s a leader of the House of Representatives and he should have… had a response which was more consistent with where I think the majority of Australian people are,” Mr Dutton said.

“The Prime Minister should have picked the phone up immediately to Tony Burke and really given him a dressing down because to not condemn Hamas and to use, you know, that sort of form of words sends a terrible message.”

The Zionist Federation of Australia’s letter is far from the first time Mr Keating has been out of step with a matter of broad bi-partisan political consensus in Australia.

During a National Press Club address in March, the former Labor leader launched a vitriolic attack on the Albanese government’s decision to acquire nuclear submarines as part of the AUKUS agreement.

Following the address, The Australian’s foreign editor Greg Sheridan said Mr Keating had effectively declared war on the Albanese government, speaking about the Prime Minister, Defence Minister, and Foreign Minister in “ contemptuous and contemptible terms”.

According to Greg Sheridan, it was the performance of a “very sad figure” who was destroying the small amount of influence he still had.

“He’s sad, bitter, isolated, irrelevant and unhappy,” Sheridan told Sky News Australia.

“I think today he was so crazy and so unreasonable that the little bit of residual influence he has, he will have just about wiped it out by today.”

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 29, 2023 5:07 pm

How surprising!

Immigration chiefs warn universities after THOUSANDS of foreign students claim asylum within months of arriving in Britain

Daily Mail

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 29, 2023 5:08 pm

Victorian Labor Strike Again!

‘Thread of anti-freedom’: Sky News host criticises Victorian ‘cultural police’

Sky News host James Morrow says there are calls to bolster the “cultural police” in Victoria.

Mr Morrow says the cultural police “would have the right to enter people’s private property,” including farms and houses in Victoria, “without the owner’s permission”.

“To check to see if there have been violations committed of Indigenous cultural sites or heritage or land or any of that sort of thing,” Mr Morrow said.

“It’s Orwellian, and this is where it goes.

“It’s all this thread of statism and this thread of control and a thread of anti-freedom.

“A thread of really cracking down on ordinary Australians who just want to live their lives and tell them how they are supposed to live.”

MatrixTransform
October 29, 2023 5:09 pm

Is there such a thing as a sound-based weapon?

Taylor Swift

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 29, 2023 5:12 pm

Brittany Higgins breaks silence on Bruce Lehrmann’s Toowoomba rape charge

By ellie dudley
Legal Affairs Correspondent
@EllieDudley_
Updated 4:14PM October 29, 2023, First published at 3:18PM October 29, 2023

Former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins has spoken in support of a Queensland woman who has accused Bruce Lehrmann of sexually assaulting her, lashing the “horrific championing” of Mr Lehrmann in the media, and labelling the alleged incident “devastating”.

Mr Lehrmann, who was accused of raping Ms Higgins in Parliament House in 2021, was this week named as the “high-profile man” charged with the rape of a young woman he met in a Toowoomba strip club.

The young woman claims upon Googling Ms Higgins’ rape case, she recognised Mr Lehrmann as the man who had unprotected sex with her without consent in October 2021.

She told police Mr Lehrmann had introduced himself as “Bryce” when they met at the club, only a few weeks after he first appeared in court over allegations he raped Ms Higgins.

Ms Higgins, who has up until now remained silent on the Toowoomba case, posted on social media on Sunday saying her “heart broke” for the young woman at the centre of it.

“When I first found out about the alleged assault my heart broke for you,” she said

“To know that this has allegedly taken place while he was out on bail in 2021 is devastating. I note the fact you’ve decided to come forward despite seeing the horrific championing of this individual in the media all year. I am so, so sorry this allegedly happened to you.”

In a clarifying paragraph, Ms Higgins said that Mr Lehrmann “is charged with two counts of raping a woman in October 2021, with the case working its way through early committal proceedings at Toowoomba magistrates court since January.”

“He has not yet been committed to stand trial,” she said.

Mr Lehrmann allegedly had consensual sex with the woman the night they met, but failed to wear a condom when they had sex twice the next morning. Failing to wear a condom without a partner’s permission is considered sexual ­assault under Queensland law.

The 28-year-old was named on Thursday as the well-known Australian facing rape charges in ­Toowoomba after the Supreme Court of Queensland lifted a suppression order that had protected his identity.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 29, 2023 5:13 pm

Is there such a thing as a sound-based weapon?

Celine Dion

And in Oz, John Farnham was until a fortnight ago.

I wonder if he will ever dare to do a concert again. Then again, he was fairly crook recently so maybe not.

Dot
Dot
October 29, 2023 5:13 pm

My god. Colonel Batshit Bazi needs to get back in the clonazepam.

Just come clean and tell us if you’re still in the Commonwealth payroll you severely damaged head case.

Your utter lack of military knowledge, is reflected in your inane remark concerning
USN Fighters and S300’s.
Are you aware that S300’s are Air Defence missiles, not Air to Ground attack weapons?

Yes. After you said I was ESL.

I said the US (USAF and USN air wings, dummy) has stand-off capabilities greater than the range of the best S-300 missiles the Iranians have WHICH WOULD BE USED TO SHOOT DOWN US AIR ASSETS (and hopefully fail).

Why would you be dishonest about such an obvious assertion? Are really you this petty?

If you’re drug addled or being a deceptive shill is still up for debate.

Why do you come here and spread obvious lies like above or other ridiculous ideas like “30% of the population not voting in the last Federal election!”???

You glow in the dark, just come clean you idiot.

If you’re being disingenuous, you are morally a traitor a traitor doing this work.

You were respected now you are trying to eff over a principled opposition to the ALP, GRN and LNP monopoly. Picking on civilians.

What happened to your conscience?

If you’re genuine (LOL!) no one is going to vote for your god awful mobile execution trucks.

Get help or go to confession.

I’m not a saint but I genuinely will pray for you.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 29, 2023 5:15 pm

Anthony Albanese is ‘giving the nod’ to Xi Jinping’s Pacific expansion with inexplicable decision not to cancel Chinese company’s Port of Darwin lease

Australia is quickly becoming the West’s odd one out as China flexes aggressively in the Indo-Pacific, pals up to Russia, threatens Taiwan and slaps tariffs on our goods, writes Liz Storer.

To this day, the single biggest attack ever mounted by a foreign power in Australia is the Battle of Darwin, 19 February 1942.

The Japanese sent 242 aircraft in two separate raids to carpet bomb our Port of Darwin into oblivion in a bid to stop the Allies from using it as base during WWII.

Why?

Because everyone knows ports are critical in wartime.

They’re chokepoints of logistical support.

And you know what wins wars? Logistics. Which is why ports are heavily defended and heavily attacked.

So I know I wasn’t alone in choking on my cornflakes last week upon reading the Albanese government’s announcement that they’d unquestioningly accepted a federal government review into the 99-year lease of the Port of Darwin to Chinese-owned Landbridge Group.

The lease will not even be tweaked, much less scrapped – the review says it’s “not necessary”.

What a relief.

Turns out having our port in the hands of a communist superpower hellbent on world domination is A-okay.

Do me a favour.

It doesn’t take a geopolitical titan or military strategist to deduce that having a wildly strategic asset (located on top of our military bases no less) in Chinese Communist Party hands (even “private” Chinese companies are beholden to Beijing strategic policy) is eye-wateringly moronic.

Defence experts have repeatedly begged for the lease to ditched, and just prior to the 2022 election Federal Parliament’s joint intelligence committee released a blistering report calling for the same – hence this review by the Albanese government.

Before becoming prime minister, Albanese posed as a convincing defender of the realm by condemning the Turnbull government for relinquishing the port into Chinese hands for a paltry $506 million in 2015.

“Of course an asset like the Port of Darwin I believe should have stayed in public hands,” he said at the time.

“It’s [Landbridge] connected very directly with the government of the People’s Republic of China. At the time that happened, we opposed it, I was the Infrastructure Shadow Minister at the time,” he said on another occasion.

His faithful sidekick Richard Marles – now Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence – also backed in the sentiment at the time: “When Labor was bringing marines to Darwin, this government was selling the Port of Darwin to China, that’s actually the record of this government”.

Of course the reason for Friday’s change of heart became abundantly clear when just two days later on Sunday Albanese confirmed that he’ll be visiting Beijing early next month for pow-wows with President Xi Jinping, becoming the first Aussie PM to pay a visit to China since Mr Let’s-Gift-China-A-Port-Next-To-Our-Military-Bases Turnbull in 2016.

Nice PR move, Albo – wouldn’t want to ruffle Chinese feathers before jetting in, would we?

I don’t suppose this is why the federal government’s “findings” regarding the 99-year lease weren’t made known until Friday despite their review wrapping up four months ago.

They must’ve just been thinking about it real hard.

It bears mentioning that the very day the Prime Minister announced his visit, our boss of ASIO Mike Burgess was in the US meeting with his Five Eyes counterparts regarding China.

“The behaviour we’re talking about here goes well beyond traditional espionage. This scale of the theft is unprecedented in history and that’s why we’re calling it out,” he told America’s 60 Minutes.

Yet here we are, in a time of uncertainty unseen since WWII, being told by our government that it’s not in our national interest to protect our national interest because it would upset our biggest threat.

Come again?

I guess we’d be none too pleased if China cancelled our lease of their port too.

If only we had one – they’d never loan us a dilapidated chicken shed for five minutes much less a port on top of military bases (shared with their closest ally no less) for 99 years.

Australia’s quickly becoming the odd one out in the Four Eyes alliance, giving the nod to China’s continued control of critical infrastructure while the red state flexes aggressively in the Indo-Pacific, pals up to Russia, threatens Taiwan and slaps tariffs on our goods.

The list wears long, but I have a word limit.

To be clear, this isn’t Labor-bashing.

The lease was the Liberals’ doing – Turnbull’s government inked it, Morrison’s government had a review into it and decided to do nothing about it too.

But needless to say, times have changed.

No one’s questioning that it would cost us dearly to reclaim our Port of Darwin – the deal struck was entirely legal and breaking it would require handsome compensation.

But we are a sovereign nation with every right to change our policy settings, and I for one can accept the financial pain of breaking the lease if it means securing our borders.

Who’s with me?

Dot
Dot
October 29, 2023 5:16 pm

frowny face

back on

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 29, 2023 5:16 pm

The new Disney Snow White looks like it is going to be pushed back a year to 2025.

As it was the movie was being mocked and panned for countless reasons even before it’s release, and looked like yet another flop.

Rabz
October 29, 2023 5:17 pm

Sydney Cats, Cats 🙂

jupes and his good lady woife sure know how to put on a feast.

So good to catch up with various Cats I had not seen for several moons.

Discussing many, many political topics.

The next gathering will at the Cottage, shortly.

Rabz
October 29, 2023 5:19 pm

will be …

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 29, 2023 5:19 pm

There’s 2,500 pax on board 1,200 crew. Of the pax at least 70% are obese or morbidly obese, the insulin bills must be shocking. I’ve never seen so many frail old people outside a nursing home, the number of walking sticks, walkers and electric wheelchairs is beyond counting.

Too many pax can do this. Don’t know what cruise you are on but it sounds like a very bad choice. There is plenty of choice and you don’t have to put up with one like this. If by bad luck or poor judgement you do, then hole up in your room and read or write or watch something. Call room service or find the quiet times and places. You don’t have to join in with the fatties hogging on. Better luck next time.

Rabz
October 29, 2023 5:22 pm

one does not have to join in with the fatties hogging on …

When too much lardage is barely enuff, Cats!

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 29, 2023 5:26 pm

Brittany!

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