Open Thread – Mon 30 Oct 2023


An autumn morning, Milson’s Point, Sydney, Tom Roberts, 1888

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Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 30, 2023 12:09 am

Good evening, just rolled 11pm.

Mark Bolton
October 30, 2023 12:15 am

From OT

But Feisty!!! Feisty I will give them that !! “Not while there is breath in me !!! ” They passionately refute my opinions about the conflict in the Middle East despite that I never offered any ….

But good for them !!! They make the argument for me on my behalf and go on to refute it….

“Angry of Mayfair” ….. these little snots cant even make thier own argument for us to refute !!!! They rely on US for EVERYTHING !!!!

“Disgusted of South Bunbury” grunts in approval !!!!

I need a walking cane so as I can slap door jams and harupmf… no I dont need it to walk …

JC
JC
October 30, 2023 12:16 am

Oh God.

John H.
John H.
October 30, 2023 12:18 am

Game changers in Ukraine – Evaluating ATACMS, Lancet & systems that changed the war or didn’t

By an Aussie. Technical and detailed. Military buffs might enjoy it. I’m not a buff but I respect and appreciate the work gone into this analysis. I’m not an expert so how do I know if he is an expert? There’s a vicious circle to go nuts about.

Mark Bolton
October 30, 2023 12:19 am

Perhaps by “Not offering an opinion .. I am in fact offering an opinion !!” ..Just goes to show how pernicious us Blokes, that no longer take you people seriously are…

Wheels within Wheels !!!

Oh and my spelling is atrocious…

Mark Bolton
October 30, 2023 12:31 am

John H.
Oct 30, 2023 12:18 AM

“I’m not an expert so how do I know if he is an expert? There’s a vicious circle to go nuts about.”

Relax Brother if you haven’t gone nuts already, likely you wont soon .

… it is the same for all of us…. Think about what you do know something about … then ask yourself why ?

Then if you have to rely on someone else’s expertise you need then to explain ” so how are you so sure?” ..it helps to be dealing with honest objective and an actual expert.

They can tell you …

There are certain things about which we can never be sure… my kink is propaganda. …

I am probably going to publish a Jane’s Book of Hillarious Propaganda … and I am sure the Australian Broadcasting Commission will get me on all the Breakfast proggs just to hear my convincing baritone…

My belief is that if I Love it enough to Hate it I can go to Heaven as a good Catholic boy … But in the mean time it is fascinating …

Peace …

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 30, 2023 12:31 am

Oh God.

Yes, O sinner, what ails ye?

Mark Bolton
October 30, 2023 12:49 am

@ Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 30, 2023 12:31 AM

As far as I know second guessing Redemption is the snare … to think too hard … to over egg the custard….

Redemption is not some distant race run ..it is right here and now… and it doesnt even have to involve being supportive of those around you …. those brave enough to come within your range of fire … but of course and etc … sometimes you can be your own Saviour … lets face it .. it you are in a together crowd possibly the all have their …pearls on a string … sometimes that might make the most sense … but you gotta settle down enough to understand the questions and address them …

When i was training blokes on crazy machines …. I used to say …. “The Life you save might just be Mine” …..

Yup !!

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2023 1:09 am

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 30, 2023 12:31 AM
Oh God.

Yes, O sinner, what ails ye?

Junior Cretin has an ingrowing toe nail, piles and a lisp. And a chip on both shoulders.

Mark Bolton
October 30, 2023 1:22 am

You people interest me strangely …it isnt as If i am a stranger to electronic communications … I remember the Internet when we all just used our real names and could say what ever we liked … we felt Free at last .. but I was running BB on a PDP 11… (anit bullshitting it was a PDP 11 ) Fastest boot of any comupter I ever worked with ..

Was it really that long ago when our freedom meant the electrons in our hair ? Remember when Virtual Worlds just turned out brains inside out ? It want that long ago that we were watching Black and White TV ..and now I am frolicking with a woman from Newfoundland who has MS ..in a beautiful world of communication and kindness and healing …

How these Bastards would want to shut down our ability to communicate and we knew they were going to try … and to some degree they have succeeded …

You People call your selves Conservatives? But all you can do is bitch and insult and nit pick … and all the while thinking that you are a font of Philosophical rectitude.

Take a step back and look at your selves … !!? Pretty Please ??

and I am not trying to knock a corner off you ..or score a rhetorical point …

Our time on God’s Green Earth is so limited … the End come sooner ..I use to work in a Mortuary …. No one dies Pretty …

Best you can do is dive into that “Goodnight ” with a decent claim to having ” given it a bloody good Go !! You might dive into the arms of your Savoir or dive into Oblivion … alls we will know is the at you haven’t posted …. things you might have posted diffenty … but In the Final Analysis … no one will miss you at all .

Time is Precious … folks dont piss it away …

John H.
John H.
October 30, 2023 1:30 am

Mark Bolton
Oct 30, 2023 12:31 AM
John H.
Oct 30, 2023 12:18 AM

“I’m not an expert so how do I know if he is an expert? There’s a vicious circle to go nuts about.”

Relax Brother if you haven’t gone nuts already, likely you wont soon .

Partly tongue in cheek Mark. The problem with youtube and blogs is that often we have to trust the person’s assertions but I have to check their arguments and that takes time. If they fail a few times I’m done with ’em. I’m wary of people who express much confidence and little doubt.

I like Crick’s idea:

“At times I even persuade myself that I can glimpse some of the answers, but this is a common delusion experienced by anyone who dwells too long on a single problem.”

The Astonishing Hypothesis: The Scientific Search for the Soul

What is funny about that is his former protege Koch in 1998 made a bet with the Aus philosopher Chalmers that by 2023 year the mystery of consciousness would be solved. Koch lost that bet. I’m not even sure about Chalmer’s hard problem argument and I’m certain we don’t understand consciousness but on other hand it may admit to a trivial solution. IIT and GWT (theories about consciousness) are not even wrong.

Mark Bolton
October 30, 2023 1:49 am

John H.
Oct 30, 2023 1:30 AM

Francis Crick had no idea what might emerge from his work .. Nor did Kepler … nor do I .. I just knew that Old Mate next door lawn was shoulder high so I went ahead and mowed it … but we could envision the Future ..Old Mate next door wont be ticked of by the Council… I used a little more fuel than I would have looking after my own first interests…

Turing is worth a tickle on topics such as these …

As to Consciousness? … I can think of a score of trite jokes but I wont …

Thank you for at least taking this stuff with the seriousness it deserves …

Peace Brother ..

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 30, 2023 2:08 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 2:27 am

Same beast.
Different medication.

John H.
John H.
October 30, 2023 3:04 am

Steve trickler
Oct 30, 2023 2:08 AM
Steve Inman:

Community Justice Compilation 2

Thanks Steve. Excellent viewing, restoring faith in humanity.

Gabor
Gabor
October 30, 2023 3:23 am

Sancho Panzer
Oct 30, 2023 2:27 AM


Same beast.
Different medication.

Precisely, but someone who has connections to Mudgee and sold tickets to some show as a child disagrees.

Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 4:11 am
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2023 4:33 am

Thanks Tom.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2023 4:40 am

Tom. The Warren Brown posts didn’t work.

Gabor
Gabor
October 30, 2023 5:18 am

friends who don’t understand the history , here is a little lesson.
1)Before the modern state of Israel there was the British mandate, Not a Palestinian state .
2) Before the British mandate there was the ottoman empire, Not a Palestinian state .
3) Before the ottoman empire there was the Islamic mamluk sultanate of Egypt, Not a Palestinian state .
4)Before the Islamic mamluk sultanate of Egypt there was the ayyubid dynasty, Not a Palestinian state .Godfrey of bouillon conquered it in 1099.
5) Before the ayyubid dynasty there was the christian kingdom of Jerusalem, Not a Palestinian state .
6) Before the christian kingdom of Jerusalem there was the Fatimid caliphate, Not a Palestinian state .
7) Before the Fatimid caliphate there was the byzantine empire, Not a Palestinian state .
?? Before the byzantine empire there was the Roman empire, Not a Palestinian state .
9) Before the Roman empire there was the hasmonean dynasty, Not a Palestinian state .
10)Before the hasmonean dynasty there was the Seleucid empire,Not a Palestinian state .
11) Before the Seleucid empire there was the empire of Alexander the 3rd of Macedon, Not a Palestinian state .
12) Before the empire of Alexander the 3rd of Macedon there was the Persian empire, Not a Palestinian state .
13) Before the Persian empire there was the Babylonian empire, Not a Palestinian state .
14) Before the Babylonian empire there was the kingdoms of Israel and Judea, Not a Palestinian state .
15) Before the kingdoms of Israel and Judea there was the kingdom of Israel, Not a Palestinian state .
16) Before the kingdom of Israel there was the theocracy of the 12 tribes of Israel, Not a Palestinian state .
17) Before the theocracy of the 12 tribes of Israel there was the individual state of Canaan, Not a Palestinian state .
In fact in this corner of the earth there was everything but a Palestinian state!

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Gabor
Gabor
October 30, 2023 5:51 am

I know most of you hate André Rieu, this is very good.

Far better than that Swedish brat.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 30, 2023 6:08 am

Andrew Bolt:

It’s telling that so many anti-Israel protesters are tribalists who share a hatred of the West and its most distinctive values – freedom and individuality.

This is not really a peace protest.

As the Middle Eastern saying goes: “After Saturday comes Sunday.” After the Jews, then the Christians. On in this case, the free West.

Start with the core protesters.

Many are Muslims, seemingly unfazed that this war was started by the Hamas terrorist group when it brutally slaughtered 1400 Jews three weeks ago.

Not one prominent Muslim group has condemned Hamas for the mass murder, rapes, torture and kidnappings.

Indeed, some Sydney Muslims celebrated with fireworks; imam Ibrahim Dadoun shouted he was “elated”; some protesters chanted “gas the Jews”; Sydney University academic Fahad Ali told a protest: “I’m not going to stand before you and shed tears over the settlers.”

To repeat: after Saturday comes Sunday.

Hamas is funded by the Islamic fascist regime of Iran, which also calls for “death to America”.

A Hamas delegation last week flew to Russia, now switching its support from Israel in hope more Muslim nations will in return back its invasion of democratic and Christian Ukraine.

Also among the anti-Israel protesters are Aboriginal race-mongers such as Senator Lidia Thorpe, who wore a Palestinian scarf in parliament when she likened white Australia to Israel as an ‘illegal occupier”.

Larissa Baldwin-Roberts, the far-Left GetUp boss, teamed her own Palestinian scarf with Aboriginal-styled earrings on the ABC’s Q&A, and said chanting for Israel’s destruction “from the river to the sea” was not “hate speech” but a “call for freedom”.

Then there’s the Greens, so hostile to capitalism and the United States. Greens senators wore Palestinian scarfs, and voted against denouncing Hamas.

Many other global warming zealots also side against capitalist Israel. Warming priestess Greta Thunberg tweeted a picture of herself holding a sign: “Stand with Palestine.”

Then there’s the hard-Left, also anti-Israel. The National Tertiary Education Union demanded Israel stop fighting back and accused it of “apartheid and ethnic cleansing”.

The picture is becoming clearer. Backing the Hamas-led Palestinians are many tribalists in revolt against the West, including race-baiters, eco-alarmists and Marxists.

These are internal enemies of our values of freedom, including economic freedom. We also now face external enemies – a new alliance of anti-Western authoritarian regimes, comprising Iran, Russia and China.

At stake is not just Israel. This, like the war in Ukraine, is also a battle for Western civilisation.

Gabor
Gabor
October 30, 2023 6:08 am

I’m a lost cause for current news and affairs, I never heard of Matthew Perry, and suddenly he died on me.
Unfair.

Sorry as always /

Gabor
Gabor
October 30, 2023 6:16 am

Shift is ending soon, so relax, no more silly posts for a few days.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 6:40 am

Francis Crick had no idea what might emerge from his work .. Nor did Kepler … nor do I .. I just knew that Old Mate next door lawn was shoulder high so I went ahead and mowed it … but we could envision the Future ..Old Mate next door wont be ticked of by the Council… I used a little more fuel than I would have looking after my own first interests…

What about Einstein?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2023 6:55 am

Crash and burn news.

Last-ditch EU-Australia trade deal talks suddenly collapse in bitter blow for Brussels (29 Oct)

The talks between Brussels and Canberra, which had been taking place on the sidelines of a G7 meeting in Japan, were seen as a final attempt by the two to solve their differences.

However, these discussions soon broke down and collapsed.

According to reports, one of Australia’s main goals is to gain access to Europe’s beef, sugar, and sheep meat markets.

On the other hand, Brussels is reportedly keen to gain access to Australia’s large reserves of strategic minerals.

Ah well, trying to get access to EU markets for agricultural exports is bit of an ask. They’re incredibly protective of their farmers except for when they persecute them with silly green policies.

Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 7:10 am

Tom. The Warren Brown posts didn’t work.

So sorry you can’t view them, JR. Both work fine in my browser. Maybe you could clear your caches.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2023 7:24 am

In Time to Move to Gaza news:

Greens’ radical pitch to Anthony Albanese: share power with us
[unlinkable OZ]

The PM should sign a power sharing deal with Adam Bandt and promote Greens to cabinet if he is forced into minority government at the next poll.

Mr Rattenbury said the ACT “parliamentary and governing agreement” had worked well and could serve as a useful template for a similar power-sharing deal between Labor and the Greens at the national level if Mr Albanese were forced into minority government.

Meanwhile, in Useful Template news:
[also today’s OZ]

Trouble in paradise: ACT’s Labor-Greens coalition splits on NDIS

Despite Chief Minister Andrew Barr endorsing the 8 per cent funding growth target in national cabinet, ACT Disability Minister Emma Davidson has broken ranks and vowed to speak out against reforms to the NDIS that would “halve its growth trajectory”.

Former ACT chief minister Stanhope takes aim at Andrew Barr

Former ACT chief minister Jon Stanhope has accused Andrew Barr of sinking the territory into debt, hiking taxes and overseeing a ‘health crisis’.

Technical Note: it would happen in a heartbeat if it meant staying at the trough for the Inner Party…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2023 7:25 am

I’ve decided to take jetlag insomnia by the horns and go to a dance class.

You’ve gotta treat it rough or it will continue to win. 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2023 7:29 am

I watched the video of Gazans breaking into warehouses. It was disgusting to see big adult males hauling away for their personal use a crate of food enough to feed needy families for many days. This stuff is supposed to be distributed according to need, not according to the rules of the jungle, where anything goes, and it is survival of the most brutish.

Tells you something about the ‘culture’ that Hamas has nourished since 2005.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2023 7:35 am

Also among the anti-Israel protesters are Aboriginal race-mongers such as Senator Lidia Thorpe, who wore a Palestinian scarf in parliament when she likened white Australia to Israel as an ‘illegal occupier”.

There it is in plain sight.

The bullet we dodged.

Thank you, all 61% who had eyes to see and a mind to see with.

Now we have to hold the left’s noses to the 61% grindstone.
No leeway, no quarter. We will be heard shouting 61% mandate for NO at all of their inane and Marxist proposals. Take note, Libs. Learn to lead on it.

chrisl
chrisl
October 30, 2023 7:43 am

Does Western Australia have two time zones ?

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2023 7:44 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2023 7:45 am

Another sign that carbon offsets are mostly fake.

Bloomberg news: Carbon Offset Market Faces Chaos as African Mega-Project Collapses – ‘Raises new doubts about the carbon market’s ability to backstop failures’ (28 Oct)

The breakup of the partnership behind one of the world’s biggest carbon projects in Zimbabwe raises new doubts about the carbon market’s ability to backstop failures.

The integrity of one of the largest single sources of credits in the $2 billion carbon market faces serious doubt following the collapse of the partnership behind Kariba, a mega-project in Zimbabwe backed by the world’s top seller of carbon offsets.

Just the idea of a mega project in Zimbabwe should be enough to set off alarm bells. But no these people seem to be completely clueless about the real world.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 30, 2023 7:54 am

Doesn’t the UN just distribute everything via the Hamas controlled network anyway?
The real question is, if Hamas & their surrogates aren’t guarding the UN depots, where are they?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 30, 2023 7:56 am

How will Putin respond to this Dagestan disgrace?

rosie
rosie
October 30, 2023 7:59 am
Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2023 8:00 am
rosie
rosie
October 30, 2023 8:00 am

Warehouses raided in the south, hamas a bit preoccupied in the north?

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 30, 2023 8:07 am

Gabor
Oct 30, 2023 5:18 AM

Thanks Gabor.

Misunderstanding of the present is the inevitable result of ignorance of the past. – Bloch.

There are many many people who do not understand the events of the present.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2023 8:07 am

The October drought continues here in Tartaria.

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2023 8:08 am
miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 8:08 am

Prince William will fly to Singapore next month to join Oscar winner Cate Blanchett and actresses Lana Condor, Nomzamo Mbatha, and Hannah Waddingham amongst a host of other celebrities jetting into the city-state for the 2023 Earthshot Prize awards.-I’ve really run out of patience with these parasites. People who say he’s better than Hazza filth are kidding themselves.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2023 8:11 am

On This Day:

1920 – The Communist Party of Australia is founded in Sydney.

Sydney. I knew it.

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2023 8:12 am

Another sign that carbon offsets are mostly fake.

Mostly?

calli
calli
October 30, 2023 8:12 am

I had to look that up, rosie. Looks that way. Needs a good tub.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2023 8:14 am

How will Putin respond to this Dagestan disgrace?

They seem to be taking the NSW plod approach.

Russian authorities warn Dagestan rioters (29 Oct)

Hopefully they feel properly warned or Russian authorities will warn them again.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 30, 2023 8:15 am

The October drought continues here in Tartaria.

Thanks Hanrahan. It must be tough when it hasn’t rained for a week.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2023 8:17 am

Quenthland news – Labor MPs reading the room yet again (the Courier-Mail):

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has again failed to appear at a rally against youth crime happening outside a building she was in, this time sending a Labor backbencher who proceeded to mock protesters as a “rent a crowd” and “bloody LNP”.

Ms Palaszczuk and her ministers were attending a community cabinet meeting at Townsville’s Queensland Country Bank Stadium on Sunday when a group of protesters converged on the venue.

Despite local Labor Mayor Jenny Hill saying the concerns being raised were reflective of the community’s feeling, Member for Thuringowa Aaron Harper – the only Labor MP who was game to front the rally – lost his cool while being heckled by the crowd.

“When you actually want to hear from me I’ll start,” he said. “You called me here so I’m either going to bloody speak or I’m not.

“I bet you if I walked around half of you are bloody LNP anyway. Old rent a crowd.”

Harper – do your job.
Pallashay – do yours, and stop trying to cling to what you think is power for as long as possible.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2023 8:22 am

Thanks Hanrahan. It must be tough when it hasn’t rained for a week.

We had 1.6mm on 6 October. The last drop before that was 0.6mm on 27 April.

Last year’s (standard) rain in October was 154mm.

We won’t be rooned, it’s just sweaty.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2023 8:22 am

He has to be very careful in the Caucasus republics – Dagestan, Ingushetia and Chechnya. They could easily explode again.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 8:24 am

We’ll all be rooned, said My Lunch Break…

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2023 8:24 am

There’s one thing that’s pretty clear from the events of last three weeks, and that is that the can of worms is open and the Jew hating worms are out, exposed for all the world to see. It’s now open season on Jews.

Make no mistake, today the Jew haters use words to express their Jew hatred, but I know my history and I know what is coming, because tomorrow those Jew haters will use their fists, their knives, their bombs etc to express their Jew hatred, it’s already happening on the streets of NYC, London, New Orleans, Paris, Berlin where Jews are being attacked. And the left sides with homicidal Jew haters.

Of course, of course, silly me, those Jew haters must have legitimate grievances.

calli
calli
October 30, 2023 8:24 am

The little red building with the steeple in Robert’s painting is the ASNCo warehouse and offices – it’s still standing. Hickson Road, The Rocks.

When Roberts painted it, it was almost brand new.

rosie
rosie
October 30, 2023 8:25 am

Melbourne’s had 74.5 mm, looks like we are stealing Tartaria’s.
Sorry bout that King Potass.

Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 8:29 am

Thanks Hanrahan. It must be tough when it hasn’t rained for a week.

Heh. It must be tough having to deal with only 67 inches of rain a year in Darwin — like Beech Forest in the Otways (74 inches p.a.). The saying goes that it rains for 11 months of the year in Beech Forest and drips off the trees for the other one.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 30, 2023 8:34 am

Beech Forest

Parts of the Otways and parts of South Gippsland, with no official rain gauges, average better than 80 inches pa.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2023 8:34 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Oct 30, 2023 7:45 AM
Another sign that carbon offsets are mostly fake.

Just the idea of a mega project in Zimbabwe should be enough to set off alarm bells. But no these people seem to be completely clueless about the real world.

For those wanting a deep dive into the dodgy world of voluntary emissions offsets (including a link to the New Yorker piece that started the collapse).

It turns out that the people (including VW, Gucci, Nestlé) apparently wasting their money on scams like this, actually don’t really care. Their virtue signalling task is done when they buy the ‘offsets’ – no matter that no carbins were ever captured.

Which is why such scams flourish.

This revelation will shock and amaze Cats.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 30, 2023 8:34 am

So has Hamas guy popped up calling himself the Minister for Health, Minister for Child Services, or Minister for We Is All Innocent Victims come out yet and announced that 715,000 Palestinian children were killed by paper cuts from the leaflets the Israelis dropped yet?

There should be an image to go with it. Perhaps an enormous pile of minced beef with a pristine just-out-of-the-packet stuffed toy bunny rabbit balanced perfectly on top.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 8:36 am

Of course, of course, silly me, those Jew haters must have legitimate grievances.

Don’t forget claims to justice.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2023 8:37 am

68 inches

Yep. 1727mm Tom.

Hoping for (but won’t get) somewhere near the record of 2918mm, or 115 inches in a single Wet during 2010/11.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2023 8:38 am

There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion.

– Winston Churchill

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2023 8:43 am

In Untouchables news:

Vape Shop in Spring Hill destroyed in suspicious fire
[unlinkable Curious Snail]

A crime scene has been established after a vape shop in inner city Brisbane was destroyed in a suspicious fire early this morning.

It comes after several other “suspicious” fires in vape and tobacco shops this year.

Choppy wars.
Here in Meanjin?
Who ever could have predicted this?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 30, 2023 8:44 am

The worse things get in the middle east, the US will be forced to liberate Venezuela’s offshore energy assets.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2023 8:47 am

feelthebern
Oct 30, 2023 7:54 AM
Doesn’t the UN just distribute everything via the Hamas controlled network anyway?
The real question is, if Hamas & their surrogates aren’t guarding the UN depots, where are they?

Hiding in their tunnels, while amusing themselves by torturing hostages?

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
October 30, 2023 8:55 am

If you want to see how effective the “game changers” have been in Ukraine, just look at a map. (This is a Ukrainian map).

https://liveuamap.com/?ll=48.11679266819489;37.739980468749984&zoom=8

General Dot, just a week ago, using all of military experience, continued to spruik:
“Russia is suffering heavy losses in TRENCH WARFARE!”
Clearly, she was hitting the gin early that day.

She apparently is unaware, that to have trench warfare, soldiers have to make it to a trench to fight.
Luckily the very non-Nazi Ukrainians are winning, ……, right Dot?

rosie
rosie
October 30, 2023 8:58 am
Pogria
Pogria
October 30, 2023 8:59 am

The Tom Roberts painting is excellent. I love his work. What is even better, it was painted one hundred years after the arrival of the First Fleet. Unbelievable, but awesome what Aussies achieved from a totally blank canvas in that short time.

Cop that 65,000 years? of sticks and stones enthusiasts. 😀

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 9:03 am

Luckily the very non-Nazi Ukrainians are winning, ……, right Dot?

Is Russia* “winning”, Col Batshit Bazi?

*Russia, homeland of Rusich, etc.

Pogria
Pogria
October 30, 2023 9:03 am

Pastry Prat determined to destroy business started by his sister.
I love the crawling apologies after the scum’s pocket scores a direct hit.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 30, 2023 9:10 am

Uncle Luigi; doing standup comedy on the World Stage:

Anthony Albanese says he won’t ask Joe Biden to intervene in Julian Assange case

Mr Albanese has repeated his view on the drawn-out saga that “enough’s enough” and said he wants the case brought to a conclusion – but not necessarily through a presidential intervention.

“Joe Biden doesn’t interfere with the Department of Justice — Joe Biden is a president who understands the separation of the judicial system from the political system. That’s an important principle.”

Boom-tish.

And, no, look, wait here’s another one:

He [Albanese] has suggested Australia, as a “middle power”, can help play a role in improving engagement between Beijing and Washington.

He vowed to deliver some straight talk on China’s role in global affairs – and express concerns about human rights abuses.

“I think both China and the United States probably see Australia as playing a role. We are a middle power,” Mr Albanese said.

Great that he’s scored some new material. Personally, I think China will be pissing itself larfing at the prospect of Abronese playing his middle power role.

I’m old enough to remember the media honking, cackling, and jeering at John Howard’s Deputy Sheriff joke. Apparently it’s the way he tells them…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 9:10 am

Knuckle Dragger

Oct 30, 2023 8:17 AM

Quenthland news – Labor MPs reading the room yet again (the Courier-Mail):

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has again failed to appear at a rally against youth crime happening outside a building she was in, this time sending a Labor backbencher who proceeded to mock protesters as a “rent a crowd” and “bloody LNP”.

And to think people laughed when I said Palace-chook was a cheap facsimile of Jokey-Okey “feed the chooks” Petersen.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 9:11 am

Unbelievable, but awesome what Aussies achieved from a totally blank canvas in that short time

yes I often think that- old government house at Parra for example- Georgian elegance just carved out of the bush

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 9:14 am

“Russia is suffering heavy losses in TRENCH WARFARE!”

This is absolutely correct. The losses are staggering. The fronts have barely moved. Ukraine however have breached the Dnipro. “It was just a feint!” carries on.

The idea that the front can hold forever with staggering losses, it is planned this way or eliminating Russian forces somehow benefits Russia is pure cope.

Now we’re going to get a lecture how F-16s are bad planes (LOL, literally the most successful modern multi role fighter plane) and how the joke Black Sea fleet (sunk by a far inferior force) somehow still exists.

In order to reunite Russia, Putin has turned Ukraine into a wasteland and demographically ruined the motherland of Russia proper. He has crippled the Russian economy and made actual reunification of a greater Russia unpalatable for generations. He’s no Peter the Great. He’s no statesman. He’s just like our worst politicians but with unconstrained power.

He’s failed in every objective he made out he had bar one, eliminating the Azov regiment for President Zelensky. RIM and Rusich will continue on of course. Russian Nazism is acceptable – what do you expect from a Hamas supporter?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 30, 2023 9:18 am

Quite troubling when the horror of Warhammer 40k is a welcome distraction from the real world.
Where’s my recaf?

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 30, 2023 9:19 am

In that Tom Roberts painting, did anyone notice the evil Karbins spewing into the atmosphere.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 30, 2023 9:28 am
lotocoti
lotocoti
October 30, 2023 9:32 am

Some midget standing on the shoulders of giantsis unironically worried about a blinkered view of the world.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 9:36 am

Anal is a marxist operative. Always has been.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 9:41 am

miltonf

Oct 30, 2023 9:11 AM

Unbelievable, but awesome what Aussies achieved from a totally blank canvas in that short time

yes I often think that- old government house at Parra for example- Georgian elegance just carved out of the bush

Not quite.
They demolished the former First Nations Savings Bank of Gadigal to build government house.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 9:44 am

Lizzie at 7:35.

Thank you, all 61% who had eyes to see and a mind to see with.

Please.
61%?
Stop exaggerating.
It’s 60.11% as of 9:26 AM today and steadily falling.
I have concerns that the fix is in.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 9:48 am

Or possibly there is no fix.
15.8 million votes counted out of an enrollment of 17.7 million.
Maximum of 1.9 million votes left.
The No vote leads by 3.1 million.
Where are all the doomsayers about “The Big Steal”?

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 9:52 am

The funny thing about the Pascoe fabrication is the implicit assumption that the hunter-gatherer lifestyle is inferior to settled agriculture. My belief is that the purpose of the fabrication is the facilitate an international legal challenge to the settlement of Australia. Similarly with the manufactured flags.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 9:52 am

Where are all the doomsayers about “The Big Steal”?

“Retired” Lt Col Vatshit Bazi has not received further orders from Trumble’s cum Albanese’s political nudge unit. He’s waiting on the best ANU arts grads to write his next rollicking disinformation lines.

Absolutely Top Men.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 9:54 am

Where are all the doomsayers about “The Big Steal”?

Sancho I wasn’t confident that it wouldn’t happen. Good that we haven’t degenerated to the extent the US has.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2023 9:59 am

the Jew hating worms are out, exposed for all the world to see

at 3:20pm on Saturday
in the foyer of the Capitol Theatre Melb waiting for the Flamenco show

I could hear it more than see it but caught glimpses reflected on the glass in the foyer

and driving up the middle of Swanston St is a ute with a big flag, and knobs in the back on a loudhailer
the only thing missing was a machine gun mounted on the rollbar

what do these people and their supporters think will happen if everybody stops shooting?

sudden peace?

I couldn’t hear everything the bloke was shouting

… but it definitely was not Kumbaya

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 10:00 am

miltonf

Oct 30, 2023 9:52 AM

The funny thing about the Pascoe fabrication is the implicit assumption that the hunter-gatherer lifestyle is inferior to settled agriculture.

Yes.
We went from “light touch on the land” nibble and move on hunter-gatherers to highly organised settled agricultural and basic manufacturing communities.

My belief is that the purpose of the fabrication is the facilitate an international legal challenge to the settlement of Australia. Similarly with the manufactured flags.

Not sure Bruce is that smart, but it’s possible.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 10:01 am

Sly if not smart

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 10:03 am

and driving up the middle of Swanston St is a ute with a big flag, and knobs in the back on a loudhailer
the only thing missing was a machine gun mounted on the rollbar

brought to us by canbra

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 30, 2023 10:03 am

15.8 million votes counted out of an enrollment of 17.7 million.
Maximum of 1.9 million votes left.

1.9mill Aussies didn’t vote in the referendum?
That really surprises me.
Emotive subject, I would have thought no shows would have been way lower.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 10:05 am

1.9mill Aussies didn’t vote in the referendum?
That really surprises me.
Emotive subject, I would have thought no shows would have been way lower.

Not counted yet. 11% roughly to go.

Enrolment, turnout and formal votes are all very high.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 30, 2023 10:05 am

Considering Tartaria was wiped out & covered up in civilised places, who’s to say Australia wasn’t Wakanda before Invasion Day.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 30, 2023 10:07 am

And the postal votes need to be post marked as of Friday?
Or received on Friday?
Last Friday that is.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 10:08 am

They call me the White Panther for a reason, brother.

My magic power is a Mellow Yello van my friends pal around in and turning European languages into unintelligible drivel.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2023 10:08 am

“Pastry Prat determined to destroy business started by his sister.
I love the crawling apologies after the scum’s pocket scores a direct hit.”

You know, I’m no longer in any forgiving mood. This creep has outed himself as a complete Jew hater, I suppose it goes with the demographics, inner-west of Sydney, Albo’s territory, I suspect Jew hatred runs amok there.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 10:09 am

Dunno bern.

It’s being slow walked so I assume it’s roughly the same as now or very heavily NO.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2023 10:10 am

Combat goat. Just what is needed for Gaza ops!

Probably could put a LAW on a drone too.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 30, 2023 10:11 am

Servo skulls would speed up the counting.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 10:12 am

miltonf

Oct 30, 2023 9:54 AM

Where are all the doomsayers about “The Big Steal”?

Sancho I wasn’t confident that it wouldn’t happen. Good that we haven’t degenerated to the extent the US has.

As I and others said before October 14th it is structurally more difficult to fix an election here than in the US, and to hide the fix afterwards.
Our voter rolls are far tighter in terms of interstate address changes and relieving deceased persons registrations.
And compulsory voting makes massive voter dumps more easily detected. Imagine if the referendum turnout was, say, 12 million out of an enrolment of 17.6 million, and Yes trailed by 2,000,000 votes?
I am not saying it can’t and didn’t happen, but fixing a referendum is really difficult.
You basically have to fix the national vote and fix it in the right states.
The risk is far greater in a Reps election where the fixers target 5-6 marginal seats for vote fraud, as they did in Indi a few years ago.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 30, 2023 10:14 am

My belief is that the purpose of the fabrication is the facilitate an international legal challenge to the settlement of Australia. Similarly with the manufactured flags.

Not sure Bruce is that smart, but it’s possible.

I wouldn’t put it past the Dodson brothers, or Thomas Mayo.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 10:16 am

National Security Council coordinator for strategic communications John Kirby told reporters: “We have information that the Russian military has been actually executing soldiers who refuse to follow orders, we also have information that Russian commanders are threatening to execute entire units if they seek to retreat from Ukrainian artillery fire.”

Imported Juche (North Korea) regime supplies.
An attempted coup of a force of almost two divisions in size with almost no resistance until the capital itself
Executing soldiers seeking cover, or refusing orders (why is this common?)
Losing the right bank of the Dnipro
Losing major level casualties in trench warfare to what is considered a rebel province
Putin rattling nukes again in frustration
Lukashenko (one of Putin’s few allies) openly saying this situation is pointless and should have a negotiated end

This war is a debacle.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 10:17 am

I wouldn’t put it past the Dodson brothers, or Thomas Mayo.

plus all the marxist law skool dons

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 10:18 am

This war is a debacle.

most, maybe all, wars are

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 10:18 am

The risk is far greater in a Reps election where the fixers target 5-6 marginal seats for vote fraud, as they did in Indi a few years ago.

The 2010 election was probably stolen by the Ranga Clanger. Bronwyn Bishop had the receipts. That’s why she got Helicopter – Gated.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 10:21 am

major WAR level casualties

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 10:21 am

feelthebern

Oct 30, 2023 10:03 AM

15.8 million votes counted out of an enrollment of 17.7 million.
Maximum of 1.9 million votes left.

1.9mill Aussies didn’t vote in the referendum?
That really surprises me.
Emotive subject, I would have thought no shows would have been way lower.

Firstly, I don’t think that necessarily says 1.9 million people didn’t vote, although you wouldn’t think they would have stacks left to count.
A no-show of 10% doesn’t surprise me. It was definitely an emotive issue for some, but there was also a sizeable “couldn’t give a shit” cohort as well. Also, in their death throes, the Yessirs put it out there that the fine for not voting was only $20, in the hope that undecided voters (who would likely vote No if they weren’t sure) would stay home.
And the abstainers now have an irrefutable excuse which is dripping in Soshul ‘Sponsibility … “I woke up on the 14th with a sore throat and did a RAT test. It was positive for Covid so I stayed away from the polling booth.”

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 10:22 am

And the 2010 election was certainly perverted by Windsor and Oakeshott.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 10:23 am

Dot

Oct 30, 2023 10:18 AM

The risk is far greater in a Reps election where the fixers target 5-6 marginal seats for vote fraud, as they did in Indi a few years ago.

The 2010 election was probably stolen by the Ranga Clanger. Bronwyn Bishop had the receipts. That’s why she got Helicopter – Gated.

If I was going to execute that robbery, I wouldn’t have Oakeshott and the Old Lezzo driving the getaway car.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2023 10:25 am

“Don’t forget claims to justice.”

Oh yes, raping Jewish women, burning alive Jews, beating old Jewish grandmothers with sticks, mutilating Jewish corpses, decapitating Jewish babies, are all essential tactics to their “claims to justice”.

C.L.
C.L.
October 30, 2023 10:27 am

The war in Ukraine is over. Russia won.

Everybody knows this – including Kirby. What’s happening now is that the military-industrial complex and the DNC are seeing out the balance of the Biden ‘administration’ before the loss is made official.

It will be made official when a Republican is elected President.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 10:28 am

miltonf

Oct 30, 2023 10:22 AM

And the 2010 election was certainly perverted by Windsor and Oakeshott.

Yeah, no doubt they went against the wishes of their electorates if you examine Senate figures for booths in their electorate.
However, that wasn’t a manipulation of electoral rolls or AEC sanctioned cheating.
It was good old-fashioned vindictive pay-back politics on the part of the Old Lezzo, whilst Oakeshott thought the Liars presented the best lifetime meal-ticket opportunities.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 30, 2023 10:31 am

It’s perverse.
Israelis are ” colonisers” to the modern left.

That would be the same Jewish people who were wrecked as a political/ national group by the biggest baddest mob in history, the Romans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish%E2%80%93Roman_wars

The real estate was since a province of a dozen rather large empires, but never a autonomous area with its own government after.

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 10:31 am

I don’t think GMB is above imitating someone else. The only person really pushing that “MB” is not GMB is someone I don’t trust at all and still think is a Ed Case sock puppet.

“MB” refuses to answer any questions about “claims to justice” and has some shitty tells like 200 push ups and Random Caps. Of course it could be skin suit Sep/Ed/Grigs mucking about too. “MB” hasn’t taken some rather tasty bait but admits to being medicated for mental illness.

Some people are either so desperate to troll or make anti semitic comments. They should get a better hobby.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 10:31 am

vindictive pay-back politics on the part of the Old Lezzo

correct- horrible old creep

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 10:32 am

The war in Ukraine is over. Russia won.

Lunatic fringe stuff.

C.L.
C.L.
October 30, 2023 10:39 am

Dot, step away from the neocon bong.

Ukraine will never retake all of that territory.

Ever.

Europe and the US had the chance to commit 500,000 troops to the fight but didn’t.

The End.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 10:39 am

It’s perverse.
Israelis are ” colonisers” to the modern left.

yes and I can remember back in the days when I watched the ABC they were characterizing the foundation of Israel as a revolt against British colonialism. I guess the narrative changes or the orders from the Columbia skool of germalism do.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2023 10:44 am

The war in Ukraine is over. Russia won.

That depends on what Russia’s objectives were.

I’d call it a stalemate.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 30, 2023 10:52 am

At best, and being charitable, Russia is scoring a Pyrrhic victory.

They have ” won” to such an extent it will be 20 years before they could score a similar ” victory”

Ukraine has inflicted losses out of all proportion to what anyone expected, but have almost wrecked their nation as a going concern for anything more than cheap Euro hookers and demographic replacement.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2023 10:54 am

It’s perverse.
Israelis are ” colonisers” to the modern left.

The Left trying to fit history into its Procrustean bed of dogma again.

Over 60% of Israelis are descended from Middle Eastern & North African Jews whose situation in their Arab majority countries of origin (and Iran) was always precarious, to say the least, including pogroms, expulsions and laws which prevented them from fully participating in society.

Post-1948, the UNHCR twice declared these people to be refugees according to international law.

Unlike today’s country shoppers, they fled to the nearest country of refuge, Israel.

bons
bons
October 30, 2023 10:55 am

LNP rent-a-crowd.

Errrr, Mr Harper maaaate, they are conservatives not Labor automaton thugs. Conservstives don’t do rent-a-crowd.

And a little tip Maaaate. Abusing your audience may be de riguerur in your union hall but it aint’t clever at a public meeting with an election approaching.

Nice Government you’ve got there Ms Chook.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2023 10:55 am

miltonf
Oct 30, 2023 10:22 AM
And the 2010 election was certainly perverted by Windsor and Oakeshott.

Wasn’t the crook crying and licking the ice cream around then along with Creeper Slipper the Speaker?

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 10:55 am

Ukraine will never retake all of that territory.

You say this after Ukraine takes the Dnipro right bank in recent days and Russia reduced 183 battalion tactical groups to 179 BTGs to win a few miles of ground at Advika.

Russia can’t run down the clock based off territorial gains. Real wars aren’t a game and Putin doesn’t decide when time is called.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2023 10:59 am

This ugly history gives rise to the question of the source of Arab anti-semitism, which an Egyptian Arab intellectual who lives in the West recently described (critically) as the pillar of Arab identity, since it pre-dates the establishment of the modern state of Israel.

It’s a mystery…

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 30, 2023 11:04 am

“I bet you if I walked around half of you are bloody LNP anyway.

He’s saying “youth crime” is okay if the victims are suspected LNP voters.

Chris
Chris
October 30, 2023 11:06 am

I saw an ad for an iconic T-Shirt so clicked through. Nice!
I don’t bow to Caesar. Saint Polycarp

So there are some more I like;
No King but Christ (A bit American that… Charles III might not approve.
CRITICAL THINKING The Other National Deficit. Mmmmyes, but some fellow redneck might punch me out for promoting Critical Race Theory.
My favourite for the current world:
FRONT
TOWARD ENEMY

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 30, 2023 11:06 am

The risk is far greater in a Reps election where the fixers target 5-6 marginal seats for vote fraud, as they did in Indi a few years ago.

And that is fraud at the electoral roll level, not the count.

The only other type of fraud I am familiar with is the registration of fake parties such as the “Liberals for Trees” whose preferences were the difference between Justine Elliot idiot taking Richmond (Tweed Heads & Murwillumbah) off the SFLs many many years ago. The AEC has made this type of fraud harder, but not impossible, by upping the deposit and signature count requirements.

Whether or not the the 3000 senate ballots going missing in WA was fraud I will leave to the conspiracy theorists.

C.L.
C.L.
October 30, 2023 11:07 am

Losing vast swathes of your nation forever isn’t a stalemate.

The Ukrainians can’t get out because the CIA and BlackRock now own their country. So they’re given just enough ordnance to skirmish pointlessly until Joe Biden is out of the picture. This is killing tens of thousands of men.

Which brings us to the latest neocon ShamWow: the Ukraine-Israel Bundle.

But no. If you want a Hamas analogy in Ukraine, it would be Kiev’s exterminationism in Donbas from 2014 – the tip of the spear being a motley ensemble of Nazi ‘battalions.’

Israel is not Ukraine.

As for Russia – foolishly re-demonised for 20 years by Langley loonies but also the same Orthodox sourpuss it always was – it has reverted to the worst of its form. This showcases why Putin has never been great and never will be. He cannot build the bridge that needs building between East and West. Being incited to a border war doesn’t mean there is strategic justification of any kind in making common cause with communist Celestials and Mohammedans against Israel.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 30, 2023 11:08 am

Cameron Miller has an article about Voice defeat in the Australian.

Is he trying to do a Mocker style article or is he serious?

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2023 11:15 am

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has again failed to appear at a rally against youth crime happening outside a building she was in…

The sovereign reigns from her tower!
The liege!
Her subjects without honour;
No noblesse oblige.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2023 11:16 am

Losing vast swathes of your nation forever isn’t a stalemate.

I was referring to the military situation.

Politically, as with most wars, no one “wins.”

Tom
Tom
October 30, 2023 11:17 am

This showcases why Putin has never been great and never will be. He cannot build the bridge that needs building between East and West.

The main reason for that is that Putin doesn’t give a stuff about Russia or Russians, except as the source of the trillions of dollars he has stolen from the Russian treasury.

Putin is far more corrupt than Joe Biden.

Maman
Maman
October 30, 2023 11:17 am

Sancho Panzer @ 10:21am

$20 Fine for not voting?

Yep! On the last day of Pre Polling with the queue over an hour long, 3 “Tradies” turned up and walked along the line asking how long it was going to take to reach the booth – then they “decided” that as the fine was “only $20” they wouldn’t waste their time voting, just pay the fine and they laughingly walked away.

Then again on polling day, at another booth, the “Yes” campaigners were ‘chatting’ amongst themselves about the fine being just $20.

This Referendum has been an ‘eye opening’ experience.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2023 11:22 am

Psst, wanna buy a 155mm artillery round?

Mystery customer pays $135m. for Israel’s Elbit to build ammo factory (JPost, 29 Oct)

Elbit Systems, one of Israel’s three largest defense firms, said on Sunday that it has been awarded a $135 million contract to build a factory to build artillery ammunition for an international customer and that “the contract will be implemented over a period of two years.”

Ammunition supplies have become increasingly important following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022. This is particularly true regarding 155mm ammo. Elbit says that its “experience covers the entire product cycle, from design to production as well as maintenance and after-sales support.”

Fascinating how the King of the Battlefield is again the King of the Battlefield in the 21stC. Maybe battlefield lasers will dethrone him again.

rosie
rosie
October 30, 2023 11:22 am

This Italian carved mahogany writing table is said to have been crafted…

Clearly Tartarian craftsmanship, Western Civilisation simply not capable of doing anything really, stop relying on the MSM!

C.L.
C.L.
October 30, 2023 11:23 am

The main reason for that is that Putin doesn’t give a stuff about Russia or Russians…

I’d say he cares about his people about as much as Zelensky cares about his.

The same Zelensky named in the Pandora papers as a foreign money launderer.

Putin is far more corrupt than Joe Biden.

Too close to call.

Muddy
Muddy
October 30, 2023 11:26 am

Professor Thomas Sowell’s new book ‘Social Justice Fallacies‘ appears another cracking read if the link is anything to judge by. This is a recent Hoover Institute interview with the Prof. regarding the new book (which is about number 40 I think?).

Pogria
Pogria
October 30, 2023 11:28 am

Rosie,
I had exactly the same thought about that writing desk. 😀

Magnificent piece though.

rosie
rosie
October 30, 2023 11:29 am

The Palestinian narrative on Twitter is that Israel is populated by European Jews who they, with great kindness, allowed to move there after WWII, they then abused Palestinian hospitality and stole their land.
Never mentioned are the approximately one million Jews lucky to be expelled (many were murdered) from Arab countries after the humiliating 1948 loss, usually with just the clothes on their backs.
No intergenerational status as UN recognised refugees though.
I remember once asking why Israeli Jews just didn’t buy West Bank properties and the response was, any willing sellers know they will be murdered if they dare to sell to Jews.

Muddy
Muddy
October 30, 2023 11:29 am

Prof. Sowell re government:

You have people making decisions for which they pay no price when they’re wrong, no matter how high a price other people pay [for the same mistakes in a different context].

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2023 11:31 am

The Chook is not for turning. Queensland is not a rotisserie.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 11:31 am

Putin is far more corrupt than Joe Biden.

Too close to call.

I’m not sure how anyone, let alone in the sthn hemisphere, can claim to know. My feeling is Putin is somewhat pro Russian while the old perv will and does sell out his country at the drop of a hat.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 11:32 am

Geez you’re funny Bear.

Pogria
Pogria
October 30, 2023 11:33 am

For any Cats at home on such a windy day today, World Movies is showing Charlie Chaplin’s “The Great Dictator” at 3pm. Interesting choice at this time, no?

I have never seen it in full, will take the opportunity.

rosie
rosie
October 30, 2023 11:34 am

Exactly, it’s always no skin on the game when you can make laws that impinge personal freedom and spray other people’s money around.
And even if, for example, a Green Labor type has to fork out for an Aboriginal Heritage ‘survey’ I’m sure there are mate’s rates, not the $200,000 minimum Melbourne based Aboriginal Corporation’s charge country suckers.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 11:35 am

Not claiming that Putin is not corrupt btw

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2023 11:37 am

Between no cause pre- polling, no cause postal the AEC continues to weaken the protection (more imagined than actual) in the Australian electoral system. We are a long way from US style abuses but all trends are moving in the wrong direction.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2023 11:39 am

Mole

Israelis are ” colonisers” to the modern left.

The true “colonisers” of the 21stC are the Third Worlders moving to the advanced West, and trying to impose their cultures there, assisted by the Quislings of multiculturalism.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2023 11:43 am

The true “colonisers” of the 21stC are the Third Worlders moving to the advanced West, and trying to impose their cultures there, assisted by the Quislings of multiculturalism.

Who’s to blame when our political class invites them to do so?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2023 11:43 am

Constitutional enshrinement was all about placing the Aboriginal Industry outside Parliament and ensuring it couldn’t get ATSICed. It was rightly rejected.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2023 11:46 am

Constitutional enshrinement was all about placing the Aboriginal Industry outside Parliament and ensuring it couldn’t get ATSICed.

That and that there would never be another Intervention.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2023 11:47 am

Who’s to blame when our political class invites them to do so?

In a democracy you would suggest the voters. I’m not sure that is actually the case though.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2023 11:49 am

Putin’s mistake was not getting himself crowned as Tsar ten years ago.

The Tsar owned everything anyway, so the corruption question goes away.

It may be the succession problem, as his official kids are both daughters who’re both sciency types of people. If he’d had a formidable son maybe he could’ve made such a move stick. Succession issues have laid waste to many a dynasty.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2023 11:52 am

In a democracy you would suggest the voters. I’m not sure that is actually the case though.

530 000 this year. Madness! Nobody voted for this.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 30, 2023 11:53 am

Pogria
Oct 30, 2023 11:33 AM
For any Cats at home on such a windy day today, World Movies is showing Charlie Chaplin’s “The Great Dictator” at 3pm. Interesting choice at this time, no?

I have never seen it in full, will take the opportunity.

It was also broadcast earlier this morning. A very clever film taking the piss out of Adolf and Mussolini to a certain extent. The Jews obviously have a big part to play in the film. Yes, an interesting choice of film at this time, however, SBS has shown the film quite a few times over the years.

Davey Boy
October 30, 2023 11:59 am

Coming soon to a suburb near you. Oh wait, it’s already here in Lakemba and on the steps of the Opera House and in the Sydney CBD.

Our “elected representatives in Australia are beyond a disgrace in their supine complicity.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12686125/Mob-Dagestan-Airport-Jewish-passengers-flight-Israel-incident-Russian-republic.html

A huge mob today stormed Dagestan’s main airport looking for Israeli citizens following reports that a plane was arriving from the country.

Hundreds of protestors stormed the Makhachkala airport in the Russian republic to protest the landing of a Red Wings airliner coming from Tel Aviv, Russian news agencies and social media reported.

The protesters, some carrying Palestinian flags, broke through doors in the terminal, with some running onto the runway while others broke barriers, aiming to check the cars leaving the airport, according to videos posted online.

The Red Wings flight was reportedly forced to divert from the airport following the presence of the mob and landed at a different destination, according to Israeli television network Channel 12.

However, riots had also broken out there too, with passengers told to stay in their seats while riot police were called in to protect them, the broadcaster added.

Many people in the crowd that stormed the Makhachkala airport were reportedly chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’ while others were shouting antisemitic slogans, according to Russian news agencies.

Etc

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 11:59 am

I’m still seething over Betts’s smart arsed ‘good try’ comment to Matt Canavan. iirc Betts is an ex punk rocker imported by Kennett to ‘reform’ the Met in Melbourne. Split it into Hillside Trains and Bayside Trains. National Express got the ‘franchise’ to run Bayside (and V/Line) but ran away. Decamped to NSW for a while-during the O’Barrell-Parrot era. Supposed to be some kind of transport eggspurt. In what capacity I wonder?

Muddy
Muddy
October 30, 2023 12:00 pm

Constitutional enshrinement was all about placing the Aboriginal Industry outside Parliament and ensuring it couldn’t get ATSICed.

The intent was to create a new aristocracy.

JC
JC
October 30, 2023 12:01 pm

Too close to call.

Estimated Putin net worth $200 billion.

Also, could you link the accusation of Zelensky’s money laundering.

A while ago, we had Dover suggest Putin had cleaned up the oligarch corruption. Do you agree with that?

billie
billie
October 30, 2023 12:02 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Oct 30, 2023 7:35 AM
Also among the anti-Israel protesters are Aboriginal race-mongers such as Senator Lidia Thorpe, who wore a Palestinian scarf in parliament when she likened white Australia to Israel as an ‘illegal occupier”.

There it is in plain sight.

The bullet we dodged.

Exactly

Is our PM so stupid he really thought it was all about listening to a bunch of people with a new and cunning plan to “Close the Gap” by giving us advice? Years of failure and mountains of funds haven’t done it because there is no responsibility or accountibility placed or expected from the recipients of our largesse.

A Modest proposal .. what utter patronising BS

Or is our PM more cunning and clever than we ever imagined and knew he was handing over the destruction of our country and society?

More likely it is as many say, he didn’t want a bipartisan approach to this because it was a be a Labor victory, his victory, his place in the Labor firmament, along with Goeff who started all of this disaster with his self determination policies. Look how well they have worked here and also PNG, another victim of Labor egos.

Illegal occupiers indeed, but clearly we need to be awake constantly to this or the left will just hand it all over because that’s how they think things are solved, by equality and diversity and making sure everyone, except your ideological enemies, is happy.

We will never Close the Gap, because the very people who could do that, are not interested as it means hard work, and responsibility. That’s not in their hunter gatherer culture and maybe that’s harsh but it is a fact they eventually have to face. It’s a tool to be used against us forever as if it is our fault, it’s not.

Same with Reconcilliation, there is no effort whatsoever in this regard, it is just another complaint in the big book of whining about Australia.

A major problem for all of us is the financial accountibility and knowledge dodging now going on.

We need to find out where the money has gone, who to and did it work or not, not just continue pouring money down the drain so precious egos are not hurt.

We need a Royal Commission into child protection, for ALL Australian Children and not some half arsed study of a few potemkin “prepared for the event” sites.

We cannot go on allowing children in Australia to be at risk, regardless of cultural mores, bruised egos or worrying about being accused of racism.

We pander far too much to the hurt feelings industry, we have to get hard nosed and push back, push back hard too.

Muddy
Muddy
October 30, 2023 12:04 pm

Prof. Thomas Sowell:

A high I.Q. and low information is a very dangerous combination.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2023 12:05 pm

530 000 this year. Madness! Nobody voted for this.

Albanese 6 months out from the last election:

‘Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese has indicated Labor won’t back the government’s plans to take on 160,000 new migrants each year.’

Instead, he promised a multi-billion dollar investment in upskilling Australian workers.

Lying turd.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 30, 2023 12:07 pm

I noticed an advertisement re this in the weekend Australian – The AEC has today invited members of the public to submit written suggestions about the redistribution of federal electoral divisions in Victoria.
Victorian electoral division redistribution – request for suggestions.

JC
JC
October 30, 2023 12:07 pm

Acceptable free speech in Russia.

#BREAKING: Mobs of assailants break into the airport in Dagestan, Russia looking for #Jews to lynch after learning that a flight from #Israel was arriving. This is a developing story.

But those pesky Ukrainian Nazis are the real problem.

I think I saw Borat in the vid.

https://twitter.com/StandWithUs/status/1718697590001201616/video/1

Muddy
Muddy
October 30, 2023 12:09 pm

Prof. Sowell again:

Media black [in the U.S.] American family income has been lower than median white American family income for generations. But the median per capita income of Asian groups is more than [U.S.]$15,000 a year higher than the median per capita income of white Americans. Is this the ‘white supremacy’ we are so often warned about?

[The above is from the Hoover Institute Youtube vid I linked to, so I’m unable to provide data for the statistics featured].

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2023 12:11 pm

I have no comment on this, except to say what a sh*t mess is looming..

Iran-Russia set a western trap in Palestine
The only country that could possibly distract the west from Ukraine is Israel. But the US and its allies are walking into an existential trap if they think a West Asian victory will be more easily won than a European one.

Muddy
Muddy
October 30, 2023 12:11 pm

Prof. Sowell:

I think that people don’t LOOK for certain evidence, and therefore, they don’t find it.

JC
JC
October 30, 2023 12:12 pm

Losing vast swathes of your nation forever isn’t a stalemate.

The Ukrainians can’t get out because the CIA and BlackRock now own their country.

Blackrock? Blackrock as in the fund management firm?

Blackrock is a dickhead organisation but running Ukraine? What’s in it for them?

Dot
Dot
October 30, 2023 12:13 pm

The only country that could possibly distract the west from Ukraine is Israel. But the US and its allies are walking into an existential trap if they think a West Asian victory will be more easily won than a European one.

Israel has already won. Several major Hamas honchos are dead.

JC
JC
October 30, 2023 12:13 pm

Where is, or what’s the trap makka?

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2023 12:16 pm

Read it JC.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2023 12:19 pm

The AEC has today invited members of the public to submit written suggestions about the redistribution of federal electoral divisions in Victoria.

How about redistributing them all to the other five states?

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2023 12:22 pm

How about redistributing them all to the other five states?

why?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2023 12:22 pm

I am loving Tony Moclair on 3AW.
A couple of weeks ago (as a fill-in host) he described the plan for limiting flights to four per lifetime as “a nut-job plan put forward by a dangerous religious sect”.
Today is his first day as permanent afternoon host.
Within five minutes he described green-left characterisation of landlords as “profiteering” as “having a very Soviet feel to it, and then called the State Government housing policies as “Socialist”.
Go you good thing!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2023 12:23 pm

Several major Hamas honchos are dead.

For certain meanings of several.

IDF publishes list of terrorist leaders eliminated so far (29 Oct)

Several as in lots. It’s open season for weasels!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2023 12:23 pm

Roger
Oct 30, 2023 11:43 AM
The true “colonisers” of the 21stC are the Third Worlders moving to the advanced West, and trying to impose their cultures there, assisted by the Quislings of multiculturalism.

Who’s to blame when our political class invites them to do so?

Our political caste are the Quislings, and the compulsory preferential voting system, combined with the limits on member influence on pre-selection, make them effectively unremovable.

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