Open Thread – Wed 1 Nov 2023


The Forerunners of Christ with Saints and Martyrs, Fra Angelico, c. early 15th Century

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Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 9:44 am

If you’ve lost Laurie Oakes…

Laurie’s only cranky because Elbow lost the unlosable referendum.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 2, 2023 9:45 am

The Oz:

“A search warrant has been executed at the Gibson Street address, with assistance from the AFP’s technology detector dogs.”

Technology detector dogs?

Do they go for stolen Thermomixers?

P
P
November 2, 2023 9:45 am

All Souls Day

May the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.

The Responsorial Psalm today is Psalm 23.

Rabz
November 2, 2023 9:48 am

If you’ve lost Laurie Oakes…

That outsized cane toad has been figuratively dead for years. When he finally does cark it, they’ll need a bulldozer and a crane to extract his corpse.

bons
bons
November 2, 2023 9:49 am

It is not an issue for big corporates. They can absorb the Liars impositions and pass the cost on.

Liar and big corporate policy objectives are congruent: destroy competition, destroy small business, eradicate non-union labor.

We will see a major uptick in big corporate and big education support for the Liars as we approach the next election.

QANTAS has been exposed, but the QANTAS culture is pretty much universal in MBA land.

The Beer Whisperer
The Beer Whisperer
November 2, 2023 9:52 am

Rarely do i get anything of interest from Change.org, but anywhere small businesses are being screwed by government, i’m in.

Save Shoalhaven Oyster Farms

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2023 9:52 am

Daily Mail.

The killing machines of Hamas must have seen my wife was a Muslim… but they still shot her 20 times’: RICHARD PENDLEBURY speaks to families killed or taken hostage by the terror group in Israel

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 9:58 am
P
P
November 2, 2023 10:00 am

The real Palestinian agenda
Melanie Phillips – Nov 2, 2023

Their aim is the destruction of Israel. They say so

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2023 10:00 am

This degrading perversion should justify the total demolition of the mosque it is named after.

Apparently the commander of the Israeli forces, who captured East Jeruselum, in 1967, was given specific orders NOT to demolish that mosque…

132andBush
132andBush
November 2, 2023 10:01 am

Another chink in Israel’s defence system was allowing Gazan’s in as farm workers etc.
The terrorists had detailed lists and plans of who, what and where. Only one way they could’ve gleaned that much detail.

Of course it could’ve been Mossad handing out the lists, I suppose, maybe, according to some.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2023 10:02 am

feelthebern

Nov 2, 2023 8:50 AM

I still think it all adds up to Israel knowing this was coming and allowing it to happen for domestic political purposes

duk, put the crack pipe down.

Quite so.
The insatiable urge to be seen as the expert at any cost.
God Oracle, if you like.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 2, 2023 10:04 am

alwaysright, I agree, that’s why I don’t look. I already know how disgusting they are.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2023 10:05 am


But didn’t the Russians during an Islamist attack on a theatre use drugs that can knock people out temporarily

Lizzie.

It was 1/2 a great idea. Problem was no- one affected could manage their own airways, so most of the hostages died from suffocation. If they had stormed in and started stabbing everyone with naloxone it would have been a triumph.

From the wiki.
carfentanil is only approved as a veterinary drug for use in sedating large animals such as elephants, not for use in humans because the effective dose is unacceptably close to the dose which can cause illness or death;[citation needed]
that the deaths among hostages after the Moscow theater can be explained by the use of carfentanil and remifentanil, two strong drugs for which there is little margin of safety between sedative and lethal doses in humans. Many deaths could have been expected unless the people exposed got quick treatment with the drugs’ antidotes

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 10:07 am

Cassie of Sydney
Nov 2, 2023 7:36 AM

I think Lozza Fox says it best……he uploaded this overnight.

Crime and Punishment by Laurence Fox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm_AzX9kU68

Please watch.

cassie,

An excellent video by Laurence Fox – “The Police are No Longer Fit for Purpose”

Summed up by an Australian Comment

– As an Australian citizen looking at what London has become, I am truly saddened. London was built and rebuilt over millennia to emerge as one of the worlds greatest cities.

And now you just give it away to people that are too lazy to build anything in their own countries.

Very sad.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 2, 2023 10:11 am

In other news:

Police arrest Erin Patterson over Leongatha suspected mushroom poisoning deaths

Police have also searched her home using Australian Federal Police technology detector dogs.

I’m not sure what “technology detector dogs” are.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 10:12 am

Another chink in Israel’s defence system was allowing Gazan’s in as farm workers etc.

With some pressure to do so from the Americans, I understand.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2023 10:12 am

Bern there is only one concrete view. It is the destruction of Hamas. By any means.

100%.
I was referencing duk’s post regarding where the blame on the intelligence failing.

132andBush
132andBush
November 2, 2023 10:13 am

The insatiable urge to be seen as the expert at any cost.

The theory relies implicitly on a lot of the good old “they’s” in the chain of command who would have to be in on it.
“They knew it was going to happen “
“They let it happen”
“They will never admit it”

FMD.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2023 10:13 am

I’m not sure what “technology detector dogs” are.


A dog that bytes?

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 10:14 am

I’m not sure what “technology detector dogs” are.

Searching for the dehydrator in this instance, obviously.

(But seriously…)

calli
calli
November 2, 2023 10:16 am

With some pressure to do so from the Americans

Correct. A couple of weeks ago I linked a piece about how the US had demanded Israel let them in. The numbers went from around 7k to 35k. How they were expected to police that is anyone’s guess.

The US probably thought they’d copy their own slackness at the southern border because reasons.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2023 10:17 am

Two-state solution needed for Israel-Palestine: Pope
Philip PullellaReuters
Thu, 2 November 2023 5:31AM

Pope Francis says a two-state solution was needed for Israel and Palestine in order to put an end to wars such as the current one and called for a special status for Jerusalem.

In an interview with Italian state television RAI’s TG1 news channel on Wednesday, Francis also said he hoped a regional escalation could be avoided in the conflict that began when Hamas militants entered Israel, killing some 1400 Israelis, mainly civilians, and taking about 230 hostages.

Somebody want to explain to His Holiness that the Pali’s have rejected five attempts at a “Two State” solution since the late 1930’s?

calli
calli
November 2, 2023 10:18 am

I’m not sure what “technology detector dogs” are.

They’re the ones I need when the remote goes missing.

Megan
Megan
November 2, 2023 10:18 am

Apparently the commander of the Israeli forces, who captured East Jeruselum, in 1967, was given specific orders NOT to demolish that mosque…

On whose orders, I wonder? Big mistake nonetheless.

Megan
Megan
November 2, 2023 10:21 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
November 2, 2023 10:23 am

They’re the ones I need when the remote goes missing.

Chortle. And the keys. Don’t forget the keys

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2023 10:23 am

Vicki

The changing world, with the movement of peoples to foreign lands and cultures, sadly promises a response to these atrocities based on cultural and religious affiliations, rather than humanity and analysis.

The post war era of affluence and complacency in the western world is gone.

Those who foisted multiculturalism on us without even asking must be publicly discredited and driven from public life.

Start by melting that statue of Al Grassby down, and using the bronze for sewer pipes.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 2, 2023 10:24 am

I’m not sure what “technology detector dogs” are.

A dog that bytes?

This is what gets me through a day of otherwise stupid.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2023 10:29 am

lotocoti
Nov 2, 2023 9:26 AM
SloJo and Kameltoe are worried people are being judged by their actions.

Too stupid to know that a phobia is an irrational reaction. There is nothing irrational about fearing Islam.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 10:29 am

Pope Francis says a two-state solution was needed for Israel and Palestine in order to put an end to wars such as the current one and called for a special status for Jerusalem.

That was the original UN plan in ’47.

Guess who’s been stubbornly refusing to accept it since?

(Who do these people never mention that…are they that ignorant?)

calli
calli
November 2, 2023 10:30 am

This was uploaded by CNN on 7/10, even though the date stamp is six months earlier.

It gives you an interesting view of the site the massacre was named for.

Apparently the women are “always scared”. Because Jews praying.

I’ve been there. It’s bullsh*t. The place is huge and Jews have every right to be there.

bespoke
bespoke
November 2, 2023 10:30 am

Those who foisted multiculturalism on us without even asking must be publicly discredited and driven from public life.

The problems started when the autocrats made it a policy, BJ.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2023 10:30 am

Roger

Large companies will have to audit the carbon emissions of their workers’ travel, for example. Once up and running the regime will be applied to smaller businesses.

And will this process also be applied to the bureaucracy, Commonwealth and state? If not, even the tame “leaders” of crony capitalism are likely to be slightly miffed.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2023 10:31 am

The dogs specialise in sniffing out many items favoured by criminals including explosives, firearms, currency, drugs and electronic devices.

All of the above can be legally owned.

I don’t like a society where the above isn’t howled down as stupid and ignorant.

Without currency or electronic devices, how can we possibly trade except through barter?

Tom
Tom
November 2, 2023 10:33 am

Man arrested in Brighton, Melbourne after a police chase – driver was planning to mow down pedestrians

Vicpol’s Plan A swings into action to suppress publication of the man’s identity as murder by car is now the mass killing method favoured by Muesli jihadists with Melbourne the Australian epicentre of the trend.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 10:35 am

And will this process also be applied to the bureaucracy, Commonwealth and state?

Let’s start with the politicians…Overseazy, get in here and explain yourself!

calli
calli
November 2, 2023 10:35 am

“Man”

Car

Pedestrians

I think we can put this difficult jigsaw together and come up with a motive.

The pedestrians assumed the “man’s” gender.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 10:36 am

The problems started when the autocrats made it a policy, BJ.

Not just a policy, but a dogma.

cohenite
November 2, 2023 10:40 am

Cassie of Sydney
Nov 2, 2023 7:36 AM
I think Lozza Fox says it best……he uploaded this overnight.

Crime and Punishment by Laurence Fox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm_AzX9kU68

Please watch.

Lawrence is one brave man. But do you remember Tommy Robinson; here’s a reminder:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/iBJBg5dHVRDf/

The left have captured the institutions. They’re winning unfortunately as they have in many other places. It is of no comfort to know that when they destroy their society from the inside they are the first to die when the true tyrants take over. This happened in iran when the left led by, as here, brain dead uni students and their lecturers and media imbeciles, succeeded in removing the Shah and installing the Ayatollah. Who were the first to have a bullet in their tiny brains in the consequent purges: that’s right the same activists who destroyed their society. Nick Cohen a former leftie, describes it all in his book What’s Left.

The left are truly useful idiots: they are so vain they don’t know they are being used to destroy the only thing which protects them, Western society.

I don’t know what the answer is. I don’t think even if Trump becomes POTUS again, he won’t, that he could stop the momentum the left now have.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2023 10:42 am

On a different note, I see the mushroom lunch lady has been arrested.

“Beef Wellington’s off today, luv.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2023 10:44 am

Looks like “facts” are being gleaned from trusted sources on the innernet.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2023 10:47 am

Dr Faustus

Nov 2, 2023 10:24 AM

I’m not sure what “technology detector dogs” are.

A dog that bytes?

Go to the corner.
Now!
I’ll deal with you after class, you silly boy.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2023 10:48 am

Man arrested in Brighton, Melbourne after a police chase – driver was planning to mow down pedestrians

Probably mormons.
Or nuns.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2023 10:50 am

If the Brighton auto enthusiast turns into an Allens Snackbar, I’m assuming The Age has the mental illness headline ready to go.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
November 2, 2023 10:50 am

Seems that most people here think that what Israel is doing, is in its best interests.
Killing dozens of non Hamas types, in order to get one or two, is going down very badly outside Israel.

I am as disgusted with the events of Oct 7th as anyone else, but watching that IDF LtCol interviewed by Blitzer, simply dismiss the deaths in that camp, was cringeworthy.
Much of the world thought so also.
They certainly thought that the US, voting AGAINST Humanitarian aid to Gaza, was crossing a line.

My hope is, that the campaign in Gaza is quick, but what if it isn’t?
How many Gazans per IDF death, would indicate victory?
What happens if the IDF death count goes into the 1,000’s?
Is Israel ready and willing to fight a long war with significant casualties?

Uncle Sam has thrown Special Forces into the fray already and suffered losses along with the IDF.
What Israel is attempting is far from an easy task. The IDF is not trained for this type of conflict, plus, the vast number of them are Reservists.

In no way do I support Hamas, but this whole scenario looks like a trap to me. They would have known the reaction Israel would adopt. They want this action.
The question is why?

A couple of recent cartoons have shown Iran as the incubator of this scenario.
Even Congress, LAST WEEK stated there is NO evidence of Iranian involvement.
Qatar is the major sponsor of Hamas, Iran is the sponsor of Hezbollah.
Apart from both being muslim, there is little else common to both groups and even in the muslim world, there is little respect for Hamas.

Saudi has given Uncle Sam an ultimatum on Gaza.
When was the last time that occurred?
Every nation in the middle east, including Turkey, is now against Israel.
Uncle Sam has recklessly thrown two Carrier Battle Groups into the eastern Med.
This is not 1948, 1967, 1973 or 1991. Things have changed.

I see the smart guys in the room have dusted off the “Axis of Evil” stuff again. Wont be long and the “Iraq, sorry, I mean Iran, has Weapons of mass destruction” bilge will be pumped out again.
If the NeoCon fu*kwits in Washington are allowed to press for an attack on Syria and/or Iran, the consequences will be catastrophic, not just for the US, but for everyone, especially Israel.

Rabz
November 2, 2023 10:51 am

Technology detector dog

A dog that bytes

Great stuff, Mole. First LOL of the day.

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 2, 2023 10:51 am

I’m not sure what “technology detector dogs” are.

Beagles sniffing out her stash of Pringles.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 2, 2023 10:52 am

Large companies will have to audit the carbon emissions of their workers’ travel, for example. Once up and running the regime will be applied to smaller businesses.

The compulsory recording/reporting that has to be done at the moment is costly & wasteful enough.

The ponytail caste wants a lot more, & uses high pressure tactics to con me into extra reporting, accreditation, etc.

There’s a whole new level of compulsory reporting entering my industry right now. As with everything, it is dressed up as “public safety”. We’ve all (each person) to obtain at least two more permits/qualifications/accreditations to be ‘allowed’ to keep operating.

It is long past ridiculous. Most people I know fake the reporting right now, & certainly will with extra forms to fill out, several times per day.
The extra qualifications? One person will do the courses, screenshot & save the answers, then all others will just follow the flash cards for their exam.
This is already done by many in my industry for many of the qualifications & permits we’re required to hold.

Vicki
Vicki
November 2, 2023 10:53 am

Bespoke – when the “old man” AKA John Howard pronounced multiculturalism a problem ….. it must be a significant moment.

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 2, 2023 10:53 am

Chortle. And the keys. Don’t forget the keys

And the missing galaxy bud/ear pod.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 10:54 am

Our 2023 Shonky Award winners revealed

Here are the worst products and services uncovered by CHOICE experts this year.

https://www.choice.com.au/shonky-awards/hall-of-shame/shonkys-2023/2023-shonky-winners

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2023 10:55 am

How many Gazans per IDF death, would indicate victory?
What happens if the IDF death count goes into the 1,000’s?

It continues until the 200 plus hostages are released or confirmed dead.
Then it can revert to surgically eliminating all Hamas leadership & funders regardless of where they are hiding out.

Israel & the IDF should be congratulated for their tactics thus far.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 10:57 am

Probably mormons.
Or nuns.

“Fundamentalist Christians” is the latest scare.

The QPS deemed the drug-fueled nutters in Wieambilla “fundamentalist Christian terrorists”, which the ABC ran with barely concealed glee.

I’m still looking for the verse in the Gospel where Jesus says “get high and kill the pigs.” Must be encoded.

Rabz
November 2, 2023 10:59 am

The IDF is not trained for this type of conflict

Then what sort of conflict are they trained for?

Armoured divisions sweeping majestically across endless desert plains with the twin goals of seizing the Saudi oil wells and the Suez canal?

Johnny Rotten
November 2, 2023 11:01 am

We are going to have peace even if we have to fight for it.

– Dwight D. Eisenhower

Arky
November 2, 2023 11:01 am

I’m still looking for the verse in the Gospel where Jesus says “get high and kill the pigs.”

..
Book of Manson, Chapter 10, Verse 12

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2023 11:05 am

Apparently the commander of the Israeli forces, who captured East Jeruselum, in 1967, was given specific orders NOT to demolish that mosque…

On whose orders, I wonder? Big mistake nonetheless.

One Moshe Dayan, actually. He thought the demolition of the mosque would spark off a jihad that Israel could not resist.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 11:06 am

The ponytail caste wants a lot more, & uses high pressure tactics to con me into extra reporting, accreditation, etc.

If it moves, regulate it.

(Does the ponytail caste [chuckle] ever wonder who’ll pay their generous salaries after they’ve killed off the productive sector?)

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2023 11:06 am

The big business carbins travel is a boom for the new ” department of carbins travel” parasites in Canbrrrraaaah.
Obviously important enough to provide a plethora of top paid pubes, supported by the best time serving swill from other failed initiatives.
At least 100 $100,000++ jobs created to eat the seed corn of Australia.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 11:09 am

for Cat Travellers

I have used this site a number of times in France, Belgium, Spain, Germany

https://montransport.com/en/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2023 11:11 am

Further to the female koel who arrived yesterday after a couple years away. She must’ve liked the new menu at the Cafe (which is the same as the old menu, but I didn’t mention that).

After an extensive brunch she was so happy and stuffed to the gills she let me get a photo.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 2, 2023 11:12 am

Rufus T Firefly Nov 2, 2023 10:50 AM
Seems that most people here think that what Israel is doing, is in its best interests.
Killing dozens of non Hamas types, in order to get one or two, is going down very badly outside Israel.

Rufus, are you fair dinkum?
The average Moshe on the street (now in the army) in Israel will ponder your words for 20 milliseconds:

“It’s the life of my family & people, vs this going down very badly with softcock middle class westerners.”

I’ll go out on a limb here Rufus, & state that the average Israeli isn’t remotely caring about what you or any nappy-wetting pro-Hamas protestor in Berlin, London, Boston, Melbourne, may think.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 11:15 am

It was tops.
Although, I must say, I think the cheesecake was Sara Lee.

Better than that, Sancho. Mrs Jupes has ‘contacts’.
And it was Saturday nite, not Sunday.

So jetlagged I don’t even know what day it is/was!
Just slept from six till eleven, and how nice is this cup of tea.
I think I’m over it now.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2023 11:15 am

132andBush

Nov 2, 2023 10:13 AM

The insatiable urge to be seen as the expert at any cost.

The theory relies implicitly on a lot of the good old “they’s” in the chain of command who would have to be in on it.
“They knew it was going to happen “
“They let it happen”
“They will never admit it”

FMD.

It also relies on trusted sources on the innernet* conferring expert status on armchair warriors with a bit of click-bait “inside knowledge”.
Some crack-pipe assisted.
But, sad to say, some not.

* see also, Vialls, Joe; The Role of Mossad in Port Arthur Shootings.

cohenite
November 2, 2023 11:16 am

Iran to Head UN Human Rights Forum Weeks After Their Proxy Group Slaughters 1,400 Jews – And Where Women are Beaten Bloody for Not Wearing Hijabs

Anyone who says iran is not behind the hamas scum is fuking idiot.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 11:16 am

The Al-aqsa Flood

OK, my heart is hardening. Give it back to them in the tunnels.

Vicki
Vicki
November 2, 2023 11:16 am

BoN – she has travelled a long way, but obviously remembers where to get a good feed. The lives of these birds are remarkable.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 2, 2023 11:16 am

Overseazy

Well done. Sounds like too much salt and pepper

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 11:18 am

UK BLM activist jailed for two 1/2 years for stealing £32,000 raised for youth group:

‘…more than 2,500 payments made from [her] account which included standard living expenses such as general shopping and bills, plus a new iPhone, hair and beauty appointments, clothes stores, Amazon purchases, taxis and takeaways.’

— The Telegraph (UK)

One black life mattered more than the rest, apparently.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
November 2, 2023 11:19 am

Considering the scrutiny Israel comes under for absolutely everything, over the next 6 months I would expect to see where the real failings came from on the intelligence & military sides of this.

.
It could be due to the divisions in Israel over judicial reform. Possibly a breakdown in communication between intelligence and government, with intelligence assuming it would be like regular attempts to breach the fence and lack of government action would disgrace Netanyahu.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 11:20 am

Koels are pretty birds, Bruce, good to look at.

Terrible to have around though around 5am when they start to call endlessly.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2023 11:20 am

Two-state solution needed for Israel-Palestine: Pope

An Argie socialist. He thinks it is a matter of oppressor and oppressed, and since (civilised) Israel is stronger they are opporessors and because (bloodthirsty nutters) Hamas are weaker they are oppressed, so the solution is for the civilised ones to accept terms from the bloodthirsty nutters.

What a stupid, useless man.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 2, 2023 11:22 am

I think with the cutting off of gaza into north and south the Israelis will systematically go through all the tunnels and when or if any hostages are still alive destroy the tunnels which probably means all of gaza city will be destroyed. Good. I have no sympathy for people who continue to make the same stupid mistakes all their pathetic lives.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2023 11:25 am

Joe Biden wants to send $9 billion to Gaza. Nine billion.
I think that says everything anyone ever needs to know about the Democrat Party.

Senate Republicans Demand Schumer Not to Accept Biden’s Request for $9 Billion for Gaza (31 Oct, via Instapundit)

He’s also said he will veto a separate bill for Israel aid.

Biden would veto House GOP’s Israel aid package, White House says (31 Oct)

This is so revealing. Masks are coming off all over the place.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 2, 2023 11:27 am

Terry McCrann:

The right thing for the Reserve Bank to do next Tuesday is to leave its official interest rate unchanged – but I’m now almost rooting for a rate hike.

Again, normally I would argue there’s a certain pre-historic preciousness in the way the media engages in pompous tut-tutting over treasurers commenting on interest rates.

It’s as if they were still living in the world where ties and below-knee skirts were mandatory at good restaurants.

That’s ties for what used to be commonly known as men and skirts for what used to be generally understood to be women.

Let me put those thoughts together.

To my mind treasurers can say anything they like about anything in and around the economy. They are perfectly entitled to look just as idiotic as any member of the economentariat.

However, our current – still, it would appear, trainee – Treasurer Jim Chalmers very obviously, very stupidly, very crudely, and so utterly unacceptably, overstepped the mark a week ago when he tried to suggest/heavy new governor Michele Bullock to leave the rate unchanged on Cup Day.

Critically, that was in the broader context of his behaviour to disrespect the RBA and specifically Bullock – knowingly and quite deliberately leaving Bullock without ‘her Michele’. A deputy.

It’s nearly four months since Bullock was appointed to replace Philip Lowe as governor.

It is much longer than that – arguably all the way back to Chalmers becoming treasurer in May last year – that he had planned for a new governor and a new deputy.

So, his failure to appoint a deputy after such an extended period can only be seen as deliberate.

Most obviously, Bullock goes into next Tuesday’s meeting without both the support, and what is always the case, the supporting vote of a deputy.

But the damage to her is much greater than that. A deputy plays a crucial role in the formulation of both the analysis and the policy (rate) recommendation to the board.

Further, Bullock also lacks an economics department head with the departure of Luci Ellis mid-year to Westpac. Ellis, incidentally, has swung to calling a rate hike next Tuesday.

So, to my opening lines: a rate hike would make a very definitive statement that we – both the royal ‘we’ for Bullock and the collective ‘we’ for the board – will not be bullied.

But I immediately add that Bullock and the board won’t play Chalmers-style child-like games. Next Tuesday, they will be deciding on the merits as they see it, without fear or favour.

To stress, that’s eight votes; not a governor as dictator. Only a sole persuader.

As I’ve explained, the board papers which go to members today will have detailed arguments for both a 25-point hike and a pause, continuing the analytical and discussion practice initiated by Lowe earlier this year.

But it will have one recommendation from Bullock – I believe, the pause.

If so, it will be supported by clear analytical assessment that the September quarter inflation kick-up did not “materially” change the predictions for inflation at end-2024 and both mid and end-2025.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2023 11:29 am

Two-state solution needed for Israel-Palestine: Pope

Jam it, Frankie.

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2023 11:29 am

Britain starts Islamophobia Awareness Month.

Kamala Harris announces National Strategy to Counter Islamophobia.

Keir Starmer: “This Year, Islamophobia Awareness Month comes at a troubling time for Muslims in Britain.”

https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1719649673638551992

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 2, 2023 11:30 am

Mother Lode
Nov 2, 2023 11:20 AM

Aye Mother Lode. Why you also see many Aboriginal flags among the idiots walking for Palestine.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2023 11:31 am

This guy reminds me of the Oompa Loompa in Tim Burton’s Willy Wonka.

https://twitter.com/ChayaRaichik10/status/1719727051308220882

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 11:31 am

My hope is, that the campaign in Gaza is quick, but what if it isn’t?
How many Gazans per IDF death, would indicate victory?
What happens if the IDF death count goes into the 1,000’s?
Is Israel ready and willing to fight a long war with significant casualties?

It won’t be quick. Some, perhaps many, will die. This is war, not a picnic.

The mopping up will take years. Israel is all in for that.

You would have been great to have around during the Normandy invasion. Not.

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2023 11:32 am

Staggering scenes of invasion…

The latest caravan approaching the US border:

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1719351849856254242

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 11:33 am

Britain starts Islamophobia Awareness Month.

Ah…this might explain why the video chap was arrested.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2023 11:34 am

Has anyone taken any of our brilliant statesmenpersons who softly coo ‘minimise civilian casualties’, ‘Palestinian victims’, and ‘proportionate response’, and ask them what exactly then they are saying Israel should be doing.

I doubt a single one of them has a sensible idea – some will have patrently retarded ideas like trying to open a dialogue, some will have ideas that simply means more Israelis die (but at the moment we are not worrying about dead Israelis) like not using less discriminating heavy weapons but instead sending a lot more soldiers wandering into very hostile areas, and so on.

Fact is that Israel is being perhaps unprecedentedly careful about civilians. That it is not perfect is not an objection. If they really wanted to just slaughter Palestinians we know they have the arsenal to do it. They would not need to drop leaflets of give warnings to civilians.

But our statesthings think they are being so temperate. The very voices of reason. The cool heads.

Truth is they are useless in this case when it is not their own populations. How useless would they be if it was? How much more destructive? The likes of Albo, Penny Wong, and the like if Australia was unexpectedly attacked. How effective would they be, do you think?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 11:36 am

Keir Starmer: “This Year, Islamophobia Awareness Month comes at a troubling time for Muslims in Britain.”

I’m calling for anti-Semitism month.

Fat chance for that though. Luckily, plucky Israel breeds them tough.

Fighters who know the meaning of Never Again.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 2, 2023 11:36 am

Keir Starmer: “This Year, Islamophobia Awareness Month comes at a troubling time for Muslims in Britain.”

London Tube commuters, Ariana Grande concert goers, Westminster Bridge walkers, Lee Rigby unavailable for comment.
These arseholes are, alongside the Royal Family, the most cosseted caste in the United Kingdom. If not the entire Western world.
And we are now seeing the fruit borne by disastrous immigration policies.

Delta A
Delta A
November 2, 2023 11:37 am

technology detector dogs


A dog that bytes?

Mole has my vote for laff of the day.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 11:40 am

The IDF is not trained for this type of conflict

Uh huh…

What are Israel’s tactics in ground invasion of Gaza?

Winston Smith
November 2, 2023 11:42 am

Switzerland Mails Iodine Tablets to 5 Million Residents in Case of Nuclear Disaster: Take ‘at Request of Authorities’
Iodine tablets are in the mail to millions of Swiss citizens as part of the country’s preparation for a disaster at one of its nuclear power plants.

In 2014, about 4.6 million potassium iodide tablets were sent out, according to SwissInfo. With a 10-year life span, those are now expiring.
Everyone living within 50 kilometers of one of the country’s three nuclear power plants will get their iodine tablets in the mail. That totals about 4 million people, according to the website jodtabletten.
The total is down from 2014 because one nuclear power plant in Mühleberg has been shut down.
Now if someone can give me a link to an equivalent Australian initiative, that’d be nice.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2023 11:42 am

Kamala Harris announces National Strategy to Counter Islamophobia.

This administration has mastered the art of gaslighting.
They’ve taken it to another level.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 11:43 am

The AFR View

Australia’s big build spills over into inflation

Australian mortgage holders will have to take the pain of inflation because government spending has over-expanded and is heating up demand.

The International Monetary Fund has made the striking assessment that Australia’s infrastructure spending boom has helped push the nation’s economy beyond full capacity, requiring the Reserve Bank to lift interest rates further to tame inflation.

Given that most of this infrastructure investment is government-funded, the IMF has broadened Australia’s modern fiscal policy debate that centres around the federal budget’s bottom line. And while the federal government’s budget has temporarily roared back to a cyclical surplus on the back of higher iron ore, coal and gas export prices, state government infrastructure programs have blown out their debt.

On the fiscal policy measure that was regularly used in the 1970s and ’80s, the nation’s overall public sector borrowing requirement is surely expansionary. Even with a record proportion of the population in work, falling labour productivity means that the economy cannot squeeze in the investment in better roads, railways, and more efficient and productive urban environments that should eventually improve productivity.

Moreover, energy transition projects such as Snowy 2.0 are now competing to draw away tradies from the infrastructure boom.

That’s left the IMF unusually recommending, only days ahead of the Reserve Bank’s November board meeting, that the central bank’s 4.1 per cent cash rate be lifted to make sure inflation is squeezed back to its 2 per cent to 3 per cent target by its scheduled date of 2025.

In effect, Australian mortgage holders will have to take the pain of inflation because government spending has over-expanded and is heating up demand that the Reserve Bank is trying to hose down. Importantly, the IMF warns that “higher-for-longer inflation could de-anchor inflation expectations, which could generate further wage pressures”.

Much of this infrastructure will be to the eventual good. But the new public and private sector investment is massive, rising to $70 billion in 2023-24, $80 billion in 2024-25 and $100 billion in 2025-26.

This fiscal spending is hard to track because most infrastructure development is driven by the states or is kept off-budget, even though the projects may be partly federally funded. It now may be crowding out other basic needs, such as housing, thus fuelling the soaring rents that are helping to keep inflation sticky.

When the global financial crisis hit in 2008, there was a dearth of “shovel ready” infrastructure projects that could quickly be ramped up to cushion the blow to the economy.

But today’s big projects are mostly not readily suitable to be dialled up or down according to the state of the business cycle.

Instead, as these projects run into the bottlenecks of an economy operating 1 per cent beyond its capacity, according to the IMF, the inevitable cost blowouts have prompted the NSW government to halt three big projects and Victoria two.

An audit of $120 billion worth of federally funded projects has been completed but not released, and an infrastructure review is set to be included in the mid-year budget review in December.

But surely Melbourne’s $125 billion, 30 year-long outer suburban rail project should not be allowed to draw on scarce resources – including billions of dollars of federal government funding – when it has not even passed a credible cost-benefit analysis, including by Infrastructure Australia, and inevitably will be captured by the CFMEU.

Sure, the former Coalition pursued its own political boondoggles, such as the inland rail project.

But this just underlines that infrastructure investment itself needs to go through much more rigorous approval processes, at a time when other government programs have spectacularly blown out in cost (the NDIS) or delivered no improvement in results (such as Gonski school funding).

As the IMF urges: “All levels of government need to improve expenditure outcomes and contain structural spending growth in health, aged care and the NDIS.”

Of course, governments also need to pursue tax reform to take the weight off income taxes that penalise enterprise.

But much of this is down to political choice of the reform programs that the IMF, the OECD, and our own Reserve Bank and Productivity Commission have long promoted.

Successive governments’ shirking of this reform now requires the Reserve Bank to increase interest rates.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 11:44 am

Truth is they are useless in this case when it is not their own populations. How useless would they be if it was? How much more destructive? The likes of Albo, Penny Wong, and the like if Australia was unexpectedly attacked. How effective would they be, do you think?

Let’s learn from history here. Hitler believed that the ‘peace movement’ in Britain meant the British would roll over and be conquered. He misjudged that.

Australians have fought for Australia before today, and they will do so again if necessary. You may say we’ve changed since then, but our immigrants may surprise us in their commitment to fighting for the life they have chosen and developed in Australia if some big stick comes in trying to take it away.

It will take leadership that is currently sadly lacking, but that can change.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2023 11:44 am

Jim decides he likes inflation so much that he wants more of it.

Jim Chalmers’ plan to tackle inflation is to shift to renewable energy (Sky, 2 Nov)

Treasurer Jim Chalmers has reiterated his government’s goals of economic discipline and taming inflation. … He says a key solution to the economic challenges of the decade is the shift to renewable energy and a net-zero emissions target – noting the pressure on inflation driven by coal, gas and oil costs.

It is really difficult to be as clueless as this. And tell porkies as big as this.
But there you go.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 11:49 am
Dot
Dot
November 2, 2023 11:49 am

Rufus T Firefly

Are you still on the Commonwealth payroll?

Winston Smith
November 2, 2023 11:49 am

Muddy

Nov 1, 2023 9:39 PM
16 minute vid on the difficulty of tunnel fighting. Clearly bombing them out will save many Israeli lives.
At some point, h@m@s will herd their civilian population into threatened tunnel systems, claim they were sheltering from the Isr@elis, and kill them.
h@m@s (and allies) are playing for time. Why? As I asked a few days ago, what is the victory state they have in mind?

There’s no victory state, Muddy. The game is the aim. Conflict with the unbelievers at every opportunity is the goal.

duncanm
duncanm
November 2, 2023 11:54 am

I didn’t know that Egypt had previously used the ‘flood the tunnels with sea-water’ method of pest control.
2015:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/9/18/egypt-floods-gaza-tunnels-used-for-smuggling

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2023 11:54 am

You may say we’ve changed since then, but our immigrants may surprise us in their commitment to fighting for the life they have chosen and developed in Australia if some big stick comes in trying to take it away.

If?

Bless.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 11:54 am

Re tunnels, from Roger’s link:

Ben Milch, who was a commander in 2014 with the Combat Engineering Corps and tasked with destroying tunnels, said their mission was not to go more than two kilometres into the network at the time.

“Where we only had to take out tens of tunnels, today’s challenge is going to be hundreds of tunnels and kilometres upon kilometres, and a real underground fortress that Hamas has built,” he told Reuters.

Clearing tunnels was also beset with other difficulties including hostages held as well as making decisions on whether to shut off ventilation shafts.

“In my opinion, that’s why the IDF (Israeli military) is taking a methodical, slower approach to make sure that they’re covering all their bases and making sure that they eliminate the tunnels as they go, so they’re not going to be ambushed from behind, from the side and so on,” Milch said.

“We don’t want to lose soldiers, so we’re going to go slow, and we’re going to make sure that we minimize casualties as best as possible.”

Slowly and thoroughly. This will take some time.

Once the Hamas stranglehold is loosened then the civilian population may also be more amenable to discussions about their future without Hamas.

duncanm
duncanm
November 2, 2023 11:55 am

OldOzzie
Nov 2, 2023 9:16 AM
GreyRanga
Nov 1, 2023 6:09 PM

Thought Provoking Question – Actually you are right, I have never drunk Bundy Rum neat

Its – what’s the word I’m looking for – a bit rough.

The only rum I’ve found which is worth drinking neat is Demerara rum

johanna
johanna
November 2, 2023 11:56 am

TheirABC’s typical attraction to ‘situational ethics’ comes out yet again in a piece about sperm donors who donated on condition of anonymity having the contract broken down the track:

When I was a sperm donor in the mid-1980s in Australia, I was told my identity would be kept private. Forever.

But it wasn’t. Victoria, where I live, retrospectively overturned its donor anonymity laws in 2017, meaning children could identify, and potentially try to contact their biological father (even those who’d been promised anonymity.)

Today, almost four decades after I first became a sperm donor, anonymity is probably impossible.

My seven biological children born from my donations have been able to know who I am once they turned 18, and to get in touch if they wish.

So far, four have made contact.
Second generation donor conceived

Deciding to use a sperm donor is not always an easy choice, but for Heather it was further complicated by the fact she was conceived using sperm from a stranger.
Two women smile at the camera in a play area in a home, one holds a toy ambulance, the other a male toddler.
Read more

It has been an interesting experience — for them and for me — meeting a person who shares half of your DNA, but whom you have never met.

Some of my donor-conceived offspring wish for, and have developed, ongoing connections with me and some of their siblings. Some want to stay at arm’s length, just wanting to know medical history and ancestry information. It is important they are the ones to make those choices.

For me there is the challenge of knowing I have seven biological children in addition to the two children from my marriage. I had no idea of these potential complications when I signed up to be a donor all those years ago.

In a world where DNA databases through commercially available genealogy tracing products are increasingly popular, children can bypass the “official” channels and track down their donor dad with ease.

This raises questions about what happens to officially mandated channels for making those connections and the benefits and challenges of these commercially available DNA databases.

See what they did there?

The ethics of overturning a guarantee given by the government about privacy and something very personal are glided over as if they don’t exist. They found someone who is totally cool about it to sideline the question in favour of talking about commercial DNA tracing.

Which, BTW, is far from reliable, but that is a story for another day.

How many of those donors would have done it if they had known what would happen down the track?

It is notable that sperm donations have cratered in jurisdictions where the donors know that they might have somebody turn up on the doorstep 20 years later saying ‘hi Daddy!’

This retrospective shit is truly evil.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 11:57 am

If?

Bless.

CL, I like to be optimistic. Also, people can be surprising in times of threat.

Look for the best, prepare for the worst. My motto in general.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2023 11:58 am

Aye Mother Lode. Why you also see many Aboriginal flags among the idiots walking for Palestine.

Yup, BB.

They pose as victims, as the oppressed. Their goal is to become the ones in power with the power to oppress. Their objection to the status quop is not that oppression is unjust. The problem is that they are not the oppressors.

They really see nothing but power. You know the expression about how, to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. For them, ‘mother and child’ is a power relationship. Shopkeeper and customer, teacher-student, husband-wife, hell even human and goldfish.

Someone must have power. Better if it is them.

Winston Smith
November 2, 2023 12:00 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Nov 1, 2023 10:50 PM
“Sliante” to all you mob. I’ve poured myself a Tobermorey, from the bottle presented to me, by my niece, for my birthday.

What one did you get, ZK2a?
Is there one that’s unpeated? I cannot stand the peated ones – they taste like they’ve been through the wash with an unwashed pair of Arabs grundies after they’ve been hanging next to the camel dung fire for ten years.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2023 12:00 pm

Rufus T Firefly

Nov 2, 2023 10:50 AM

Seems that most people here think that what Israel is doing, is in its best interests.
Killing dozens of non Hamas types, in order to get one or two, is going down very badly outside Israel.

Is it?
Oh, well.

Most of the world thought so too

You know this how exactly?

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
November 2, 2023 12:00 pm

I am as disgusted with the events of Oct 7th as anyone else, but . . .

The inevitable “but” somefink or utha
.

In no way do I support Hamas, but this whole scenario looks like a trap to me. They would have known the reaction Israel would adopt. They want this action.
The question is why?

To trap people into saying “It’s horrible, but . . . ”
.

This is not 1948, 1967, 1973 or 1991. Things have changed.

They have definitely changed. Israel stops listening at “but”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2023 12:01 pm

Bespoke – when the “old man” AKA John Howard pronounced multiculturalism a problem ….. it must be a significant moment.

“Damascus? That way.” I thought this was mainly a Liar phenomenon? Now clearly bipartisan.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 2, 2023 12:02 pm

‘flood the tunnels with sea-water’ method of pest control.

Unless the tunnels collapse, that’s a lot of effort for a short term result.
Better to pump them full of FAE and do a spot of terraforming.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 12:04 pm

Re the AFR article above

Australia’s big build spills over into inflation

Australian mortgage holders will have to take the pain of inflation because government spending has over-expanded and is heating up demand.

Driving at 3.30pm from Seaforth to pick up Grandson from Anderson Park North Sydney – it was tradies go home time – Sydney they work 0700-1500 – roads going both directions filled with Tradie Utes

Going on knock downs/rebulids, additions/extensions here on Northen Beaches and Mosman/Cremorne/North Sydney, let alone what in the hell the NSW Government is doing on & at the top of Warringah Expressway, there has been no slow down in constuction work & and we are adding 500,000 immigrants per year as at end of September 2023? – Hmmm.

What is more obvious is the horrendous costs imposed by having firms with prominent utes full of signs, cones, barriers etc with flashing signs, lollipop men/ladies required for something simple, which used to be Concrete Truck emptying into Concrete Pump just parked normally on street, and cars able to work out how to stop and pass, now requires minimum of 6 safety people – on Northern Beaches Council new street gutters – about 30 metres – on street nearby – 8 people standing around with signs etc watching 2 people working

And they wonder why Infrastructure costs blow out and why so many Builders are going broke!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 2, 2023 12:04 pm

You may say we’ve changed since then, but our immigrants may surprise us in their commitment to fighting for the life they have chosen and developed in Australia

Lizzie, from this I deduce you’re not had much to do with recent migrants. i.e. those whose citizenship certificate still has wet ink.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 2, 2023 12:06 pm

Better to pump them full of

We have some saltwater crocs that would enjoy the change of scenery.

Winston Smith
November 2, 2023 12:06 pm

Steve trickler

Nov 1, 2023 11:09 PM
Steve Inman:
How Brazilians Handle Armed Robbers

There was an SF book by Heinlein? where the shopkeepers were allowed to display the heads of the thieves, outside/at the front door of the shop.
Good policy, I reckon.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 2, 2023 12:07 pm

duncanm Nov 2, 2023 11:55 AM
The only rum I’ve found which is worth drinking neat is Demerara rum

+1

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2023 12:10 pm

… there has been no slow down in constuction work & and we are adding 500,000 immigrants per year as at end of September 2023? – Hmmm.

Population Ponzi has a price. And we are paying it.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 2, 2023 12:11 pm

Is there one that’s unpeated? I cannot stand the peated ones

Glenmorangie = the least peaty highland single malt. (i.e. not at all peaty)
Consequently is sometimes referred to as a ‘ladies drink’

I’ve not updated my facts, though it had always been the most popular by sales volume, single malt in Scotland.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 2, 2023 12:14 pm

There was an SF book by Heinlein? where the shopkeepers were allowed to display the heads of the thieves, outside/at the front door of the shop.

Sounds like his Citizen of the Galaxy.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2023 12:15 pm

Consequently is sometimes referred to as a ‘ladies drink’

Front bar urgers.

I bet they take their Great Northern in a 7 oz glass.

Vicki
Vicki
November 2, 2023 12:16 pm

Old Ozzie – you & my husband are in furious agreement re the obscene amount of our money that is being spent on the regulatory requirements of public works. It infuriates him. We need to regularly access that debacle that is the Warringah Expressway realignment. A nightmare that goes on & on, causing traffic mayhem & driver terror.

Just another aspect of the mindless expansion of bureaucratic spending without direction.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 12:18 pm

Winston Smith
Nov 2, 2023 12:00 PM

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Nov 1, 2023 10:50 PM
“Sliante” to all you mob. I’ve poured myself a Tobermorey, from the bottle presented to me, by my niece, for my birthday.

I saw reference earlier to Tobermorey and thought it was

Tobermorey Station is a family-owned, 1.8M Acre (6475km2) working cattle station situated just inside the Northern Territory border on the Plenty Highway.

It is centrally located between Alice Springs and Boulia or Mount Isa in Queensland.

Part of the Outback Way – ‘Australia’s Longest Shortcut’, Tobermorey Station is one of the most remote tourist facilities in the Australian Central Desert.

A place I have stopped many times on 4WD Trips and where we did welding repairs on the 14 Ton 4WD Truck we had jsut driven back from the Simpsoon Madigan Line

I have a Tobermorey Basball Cap – Well Worn

bespoke
bespoke
November 2, 2023 12:18 pm

johanna

It happening with adoptions too. Playing up successful reunions and little info on how complicated stressing it can be for most. Reminds me of a pilot program allowing biological parents access and say in the kids life without the financial concerns.
Legalised deadbeat perents.

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2023 12:18 pm

All I get from the proportionists is a fundamental lack of understanding of islam in general and hamas, in particular.
They don’t care how many civilians, women, children they sacrifice, not one iota.
They deliberately put them in harms way, they fire their crappy rockets from their homes and schools and if they kill their own babies, they just add them to the propaganda pile.
Hamas don’t care how many lives it costs, in their fanatical desire to destroy Israel and restore el sham.
Read some history!

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2023 12:21 pm

As for those, who without a shred of evidence, claim Israel engineered this, calling it codswallop is the most dignified response you deserve.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 12:23 pm

Jim Chalmers warns increased private capital needed to achieve energy targets but affirms green policies will ‘complement, not copy’ other nations

Treasurer Jim Chalmers has admitted the federal government needs significant private sector investment to meet its “ambitious” green energy targets, while outlining four key areas for incentivising capital.

Heloise Vyas – Digital Reporter

Federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers has acknowledged Australia will fail to meet its desired energy targets without substantial private sector investment and collaboration across all three government tiers.

Delivering a keynote address at the Economic and Social Outlook Conference in Melbourne on Thursday, Mr Chalmers said although the Albanese government had made strong headway in advancing renewable energy policies, it could not hit its 2030 and 2050 net zero emissions targets unless “even more work” was done with industry policy.

“Our ability to become a superpower is reliant upon our ability to generate cheaper, cleaner, more reliable and increasingly renewable power,” he said.

“Without more decisive action across all levels of government, working with investors, industry, and communities, the energy transformation could fall short of what the country needs.”

The Treasurer highlighted Labor’s $40 billion funding into clean energy industries which had been committed to make Australia a “renewable energy superpower” but said the private sector would have to do “most of the heavy lifting here”.

He stressed the government’s pathway to reducing greenhouse gas emissions would not simulate the approach of the United States’ – the landmark Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) – but instead build on a “unique” domestic strategy to seek $225 billion in investment.

However, Mr Chalmers said attracting the desired capital was simply a means to an end and that a range of other factors would have to be worked through to hit renewable energy goals, including leveraging Australia’s competitiveness in the industry, deploying appropriate infrastructure, building regional capabilities, and establishing appropriate skills and research bases.

“We will complement, not copy, the priorities and plans of other nations, not just do exactly the same kind of investment with the exact same subsidies,” he said, in reference to the IRA.

“We won’t realise Australia’s unique geographical, geological, geopolitical, intellectual and meteorological advantages by designing an Inflation Reduction Act lite – looking only for big numbers but missing the bigger picture.

Its main points are: first, while important building blocks are now in place and progress has been made, we will need to do even more to secure sufficient renewable energy generation, transmission and storage to meet our ambitions

— Jim Chalmers MP (@JEChalmers) November 1, 2023
The most efficient solar modules in the world are being made here in Australia.

And we are backing SunDrive, an Australian company, to produce more of them.

It will make cleaner and cheaper solar energy even more affordable – while creating jobs right here at home. pic.twitter.com/crpTf7nRek

— Anthony Albanese (@AlboMP) November 1, 2023
“Our plan will be ambitious, but uniquely Australian, focused on Australia’s strengths.”

Renewable energy has been a centerpiece policy of the incumbent Labor government, with the 2023-2024 federal budget announcing billions in investments into advancing the cause and establishing a National Net Zero Authority tasked with “promoting the orderly and positive economic transformation associated with achieving net zero emissions”.

The policy has maintained strong support from the opposition too, with leader Peter Dutton restating in September he remained committed to Net Zero Australia.

Labor’s urgency in furthering clean energy developments come after a decade of the Coalition being split by the climate change debate whilst in government.

In its Annual Climate Statement last year, the Albanese government outlined a commitment to achieving Net Zero by 2050, along with a target of 82 per cent renewables by 2030.

Scepticism has been raised over the feasibility of these goals, but the government remains confident of a “defining decade” ahead.

The government’s key priority areas for incentivising energy investment include critical minerals, manufacturing battery and storage technology, renewable hydrogen and its derivatives like ammonia, and green metals.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese announced a $2 billion expansion in critical mineral financing last week during his visit to the States.

“Australians will benefit through this investment in critical minerals, through technology, skills, jobs and economic gains,” he said.

“The expansion of the Critical Minerals Facility will help to build supply chains with the United States and support our shared clean energy, manufacturing and defence ambitions.”

From the Comments

– Green energy transition is not a priority for the majority of Australians. Get that into your thick skulls.

Labor got elected on the platform to reduce the cost of living. They are failing.

Your green energy is what is killing this country you fool.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 12:24 pm

I’ve been there. It’s bullsh*t. The place is huge and Jews have every right to be there.

Al-aqsa site. I’ve been there too, and I didn’t wear a hijab like that CNN reporter.
Only Muslims enter the mosque, and when we went Muslim were in charge of a controlled entry system to the external site (which I expect is not the case right now).

The Temple Mount is one of the holiest places in Judaism, as well as Islam.
And the Jews were there first.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2023 12:24 pm

The compensation claims for adoptions, sperm donors are almost emerging from the sorcerer’s pot.

Like I’ve said, we’re going to see claims eventually in divorces that men sexually harassed their wives into relationships and therefore it was all coercive and justifies an adjustment upping the court ordered “settlement”.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 2, 2023 12:26 pm

Before I away for work, Tim Blair links to a rather disturbing kiddies show. This was from 6 years ago but Blair updates with this summary:

Subtract 16 years from the age of many October 7 Hamas terrorists and, back in the day, they’d have been squarely in the Farfour-viewing sub-teen Pally demographic.

Besides all of the other perverse and brainwashed justifications those Hamas death robots may give for their slaughter, add one more:

They did it to avenge a costume mouse.

Winston Smith
November 2, 2023 12:27 pm

Re the conversation last night on explosives/tunnels/secondaries etc.
I wonder if the tunnels are sensitive to Fuel/Air explosions where the pressure wave can collapse the bunkers?
Any evidence of the use of them by the Israelis?

Rabz
November 2, 2023 12:27 pm

“Settlers”

A term used by Jew hating pieces of human garbage. The 21st Century equivalent of “Rootless Cosmopolitan”.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 2, 2023 12:28 pm

Blair himself covered it at the time.
Some commenters you might recognise.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 2, 2023 12:28 pm

Dot Nov 2, 2023 12:15 PM

Consequently is sometimes referred to as a ‘ladies drink’

Front bar urgers.
I bet they take their Great Northern in a 7 oz glass.

They’re Scots, in Scotland.
If they’re having a beer, it’ll be a “proper Scottish Pint”, one of those warmed up muddy frothless 3% alcohol things they drink in UK.

But yeah, we’re not talking men of sophistication, style, or distinction. This is bog-ordinary Scotsmen we’re talking about.

The Head Cooper at Glenmorangie may have a contrasting opinion.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2023 12:28 pm

The only rum I’ve found which is worth drinking neat is Demerara rum

Appleton’s

I don’t drink spirits, but visiting my old mum I’d bring her a bottle and we’d sip it neat at room temperature. Nice aroma, fruity. Very smooth. Took us ages to get Oz shops to carry it, since Bundaberg fought like tigers to keep it out. They played dirty. But eventually the market cracked and it’s reasonably available at a bottlo. And of course the Dam Murphy website at the link and Liquorland also.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 12:29 pm

We need to regularly access that debacle that is the Warringah Expressway realignment. A nightmare that goes on & on, causing traffic mayhem & driver terror.

I confront it weekly on the way to my dance class, Vicki.

It has been going on for what seems forever. I tell myself it is good for me to have to regularly negotiate its many changes and challenges, keeps the brain trim, as I am not a fan of artificial mental puzzles. Real life presents me with enough brain fodder. 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 12:35 pm

Appletons, a nice drop but very sweet. Even more so if teamed with Coca Cola. On travels in the US with the kids when they were young I needed and enjoyed this hotel room hit from the Duty Free. There was always a Coke vending machine on every floor.

There are many very nice rums on the market these days and the kids are all grown up, so I no longer buy Appletons. Bundy has never been on my list of faves. It’s too sharp and brutal the next day.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 12:39 pm

I wonder if the tunnels are sensitive to Fuel/Air explosions where the pressure wave can collapse the bunkers?

So many tunnels have been made, one wonders whether flooding or collapsing them would alter the landforms above, and bring down buildings eventually. Or is that an unnecessary worry? I’ve no idea.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2023 12:39 pm

Keir Starmer: “This Year, Islamophobia Awareness Month comes at a troubling time for Muslims in Britain.”

Not a fraction as troubling a time as it is for the Jews of Britain.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 12:41 pm

And the Liberals Wonder Why They Constantly Lose!

‘Not clear at all’: Sky News host clashes with Sussan Ley over Coalition’s net zero pathway

Sky News host Laura Jayes has clashed with Deputy Opposition leader Sussan Ley over the level of “opacity” in the Coalition’s net zero pathway.

Ms Ley criticised Treasurer Jim Chalmers for giving up on the government’s energy policy and its “unrealisable goal” of 82 per cent of renewable electricity in the grid by 2030.

“By acknowledging, as they pretty much have, that they won’t reach that, that is sending a terrible message to these communities and indeed communities who rely on resources,” she told Sky News Australia.

“But it’s not just those, it’s the whole Australian population facing the cost of living crisis with a government that is saying they don’t know what to do about your skyrocketing energy bill and that their own energy policy is effectively a broken promise.

“We have a clear pathway that doesn’t commit to something as impossible as the 82 per cent of renewable energy grid.”

Ms Jayes argued that the Coalition’s renewable energy pathway is “not clear at all” pointing out the level of “opacity” in the Opposition’s plans.

The Deputy Opposition leader went on to reaffirm the Coalition’s commitment to net zero by 2050 while criticising the Albanese government for “demonising” gas in the process.

“We would de-risk investment and we would absolutely focus on gas as a transition energy source to reduce emissions to put us on a pathway that actually backs in our industries.”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 12:42 pm

They did it to avenge a costume mouse.

And we were subsidising this sort of stuff being taught in Hamas-run schools. The Libs to their credit stopped that, and then Penny Wong has reinstituted it. There are twenty million Australian dollars right now continuing on with the ‘good work’.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2023 12:42 pm

Bundy has never been on my list of faves. It’s too sharp and brutal the next day.

If only you had played country chugby.

Winston Smith
November 2, 2023 12:45 pm

Vicki

Nov 2, 2023 8:06 AM
But didn’t the Russians during an Islamist attack on a theatre use drugs that can knock people out temporarily? This would surely be a solution of sorts to try to save hostages. Go in wearing respirators and drag out hostages first

No doubt Hamas is anticipating some such strategy Lizzie – but like you, I believe that the IDF will have countermeasures.

Yes – they used an anaesthetic – Fentanyl IIRC, but the Russian Military refused to tell the first responders what it was, and the victims died from airway compromise.

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2023 12:45 pm

There was a vid of a Saudi? mocking Palestinians and their claims re al asqa. He said the mosque was built about 60 years after the death of mo, so there was no chance he ascended into heaven on a white horse from there.
No, the truth is clear, has been repeated a thousand times across places conquered by Islam, take over, destroy, replace the holy places of the indigenous population who are forever reduced to dhimmitude, with bonus mythology to keep the fires of outrage burning.
Christianity may have done a bit of that replacement too, though in the main it appears locals repurposed their temples to accommodate their new faith, and of course in Spain and Portugal to reclaim places of Christian worship.
I was also interested to see in Lorenzo Warby’s essay that many muslims and Christians migrated to the Palestine mandate in the late 19th century after Jewish migrants from Europe created new opportunities for work and prosperity.
I have no doubt had muslims successfully conquered Rome, a new myth about mo would have been created to help maintain the mohamedan rage, should they have been displaced.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 12:47 pm

We would de-risk investment and we would absolutely focus on gas as a transition energy source to reduce emissions to put us on a pathway that actually backs in our industries.”

Stop it with the ‘transition’ nonsense. Promote coal-fired power as well as gas-fired.
Start to query the ‘science’ behind the earth’s changing climate and its cycles and stop playing God with the weather. Human impacts are puny. We are not that important.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2023 12:50 pm

Tits out!

National Association Will Rename Birds With ‘Exclusionary And Harmful’ Names (1 Nov)

“As scientists, we work to eliminate bias in science. But there has been historic bias in how birds are named, and who might have a bird named in their honor. Exclusionary naming conventions developed in the 1800s, clouded by racism and misogyny, don’t work for us today, and the time has come for us to transform this process and redirect the focus to the birds, where it belongs,” Judith Scarl, AOS Executive Director and CEO, said in a statement.

“Ornithologists have long grappled with historical and contemporary practices that contribute to the exclusion of Black, Indigenous, and other people of color, including how birds are named,” the AOS announcement reads.

Rainbow lorikeets will be Pride lorikeets! It probably does for spangled drongos also. Trannies love spangles but hate being called drongos.

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2023 12:51 pm

Most of the tunnels are rat runs so I wouldn’t be too bothered about changing the landforms.
I’m surprised that someone hasn’t claimed them for Tartaria though.
The simplest way to make them unusable prior to blocking them up would be to deprive them of ventilation, apparently even with that hamas have oxygen tanks available in the darkest recesses.
I don’t think Israel want to do anything irreversible until they have exhausted all hope of recovering hostages alive.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2023 12:51 pm

Fentanyl IIRC, but the Russian Military refused to tell the first responders what it was, and the victims died from airway compromise.

Aha. Just like George Floyd.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 2, 2023 12:52 pm

Some commenters you might recognise.

They were great days.
Earned him a John Malkovich house call.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2023 12:53 pm

OldOzzie

I saw reference earlier to Tobermorey and thought it was

Tobermorey Station is a family-owned, 1.8M Acre (6475km2) working cattle station situated just inside the Northern Territory border on the Plenty Highway.

There is (or, at least used to be many years ago) a Talisker Station near Carnarvon. At the time, one of my wife’s uncles owned it.

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2023 12:54 pm

132andBush
Nov 2, 2023 9:21 AM

I think you responded best to the codswallop.

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2023 12:54 pm

Sadly I think many Palestinian Christians are as wedded to the Israel hate as their muslim brothers.
Why else refuse to evacuate a war zone?
It’s not as if Christians haven’t done so in the past, many times.
All they are doing is shielding hamas.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 2, 2023 12:56 pm

Bundy has never been on my list of faves. It’s too sharp and brutal the next day.

Huh? Next day? You don’t notice it’s kero until the day after?
Lizzie, what is the cause of such a delayed reaction?

bespoke
bespoke
November 2, 2023 1:00 pm

Why else refuse to evacuate a war zone?

Already answered.

“There are old people here, the Missionaries of Charity are with us as well, with a group of disabled and elderly. Where can they go? We will stay with them. Pray for us, for this madness to end.”

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 2, 2023 1:00 pm

Yes – they used an anaesthetic….

Does this smell like chloroform to you?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 1:03 pm

Hertz backpedals on rush into EV rentals: CEO says repair costs can run “twice as high”

By Jo Nova

Hertz was aiming to make 25% of its fleet electric by 2024, but is finding 11% is too much. Given there are whole nations pushing for 100% EV by 2035 there seems to be a message here…

Let’s thank Hertz for doing that experiment for us.

It turns out EV’s didn’t work well in the high mileage Uber-type system because the drivers “drove them into the ground” and repair costs were much higher than expected.

So Hertz moved some EV’s to the leisure hire department, but then the revenue per day in the leisure sector fell.

Presumably people didn’t want to hire them.

It’s not that this is Bad News week for EVs — it’s quarterly reporting week, so companies have to tell investors things they’d rather not.

Great nations don’t force citizens to buy heavier cars with shorter ranges and bigger repair bills in order to stop bad weather one hundred years from now.

Hertz rolls back aggressive electric car plans

Car Expert

Hertz is slowing down the roll out of EVs onto its fleets as the CEO cites higher than expected repair costs and price cuts.

The rental car company reported lower than expected margins in the third quarter of this year, citing EV repairs as one of the challenges.

“Collision and damage repairs on an EV can often run about twice that associated with a comparable combustion engine vehicle,” said Mr Scherr.

Lora Kolodny, CNBC

Musk frequently says that electric cars require less maintenance than counterparts with internal combustion engines (including plug-in hybrid electrics). …

But electric vehicle owners can face unique maintenance needs, as well. Nikhil Naikal, CEO of Kinetic, a startup that is not affiliated with Hertz or Tesla but provides repairs for electric and autonomous vehicles, told CNBC on Thursday:

“The reality of electric vehicles is that they can be 1,000 pounds heavier or more than gas vehicles, and they move faster, with higher torque.

Since they’re extremely zippy and heavier, it’s just physics — the ability to overcome inertia so quickly is going to effect their suspension systems, the brakes and steering columns.

It’s counter-intuitive, but even with fewer moving parts they are susceptible to requiring more maintenance.

They especially require tire-swapping, because the tires wear out more quickly from that high torque and weight.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 2, 2023 1:06 pm

LMAO! Check out these domesticated house cats. They go mental on this bloke.

They size him up and attack.

Eff you, cop this!

Steve Inman:

His first and last time sitting cats

Winston Smith
November 2, 2023 1:06 pm

Knuckle Dragger:

To my mind, this fascination with Ms Louk has come at the expense of the infants tied together and burned alive, or decapitated, or cooked in ovens – and the evidence of that absolutely cannot be disputed.

Until the video evidence of the barbarities are released, and widely circulated, the mohammedans will be able to claim the acts are lies.
This is the very same conundrum faced by Eisenhower in Europe as the death camps were overrun. “If the evidence isn’t widely shown, then in twenty years some son of a bitch will claim it didn’t happen.”
German prisoners were forced to watch film of the Concentration and Extermination Camps. We should do the same to the moronic uni students who are demanding ‘justice for Palestine.’ Shock therapy may just work to get them to abandon their Cult.
So far the refusal by the authorities to release the videos is only helping the mohammedans. Release the videos so we can rub the noses of the Left in the reality of the monsters they support.

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2023 1:06 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 1:07 pm
bons
bons
November 2, 2023 1:07 pm

The comment above that “the IDF is not trained for this type of warfare” ignores the reality that Israel has constructed an enormous high tech urban warfare training facility.

The focus on MOUT is so intense that some manoeuvre formation commanders have expressed concern regarding a loss of basic manoeuvre warfare skills.

Frank
Frank
November 2, 2023 1:07 pm

How many Gazans per IDF death, would indicate victory?

Curtis LeMay had some thoughts on this very topic. Clarifying they were, if not a bit direct for the sort of ninnies that report on things.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 2, 2023 1:09 pm

So many tunnels have been made, one wonders whether flooding or collapsing them would alter the landforms above…..

Why not do both? Gaza could be the new Venice of Israel. Throw in a few crocs and bull sharks to clean it up. Job done. Follow me for more landscaping tips.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 2, 2023 1:10 pm

Is there one that’s unpeated?

Glen Moray
Glengoyne
Glenrothes
Glen Kinchie (mostly)
Dalwhinnie
Glenfarclas
Macallan
Edrador
Balblair
Glen Morangie Nectar D’Or

Forgive misspellings and many I have missed.

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2023 1:17 pm

Israel has too much respect for their people, living and dead to air dead baby porn (other than the snippets already reluctantly released)
Every single one of the dead has living relatives.
The reason for not broadcasting is the same, the difference between civilisation and barbarity.
In any case even with footage the naysayers will claim photoshop AI, whatever.

Arky
November 2, 2023 1:17 pm

Some oldies and goodies from the 70s you are going to start hearing more and more again this decade:
“Wage- price spiral”.
“Rolling strikes”.
“Energy crisis”.
“Hijacked airliner”.
“Hostages”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 1:17 pm

Alarming audio recording reveals how Hamas is stealing critical fuel supply from Gazan hospitals: ‘Fill it up for him now… they’ll start shooting us’

The IDF has released a phone conversation between a Gazan resident, a doctor and a Hamas commander showing how the Palestinian militant group siphons diesel from the region’s hospitals.

Stacey Eldridge – Digital Reporter

The IDF has released an audio recording exposing how Hamas fighters are stealing fuel from Gaza’s hospitals.

In the intercepted phone conversation, a Hamas Deputy Commander of the Western Jabaliya Battalion tells a Gazan citizen that he has arrived at the Indonesian Hospital to siphon 1,000 litres of diesel.

“I’m here with Dr. A’ataf on speaker,” the Hamas commander told the Gazan resident.

“We went to fill up the diesel. The thousand litres that you talked about. But they told me there’s no diesel”.

The citizen replied he was told hours earlier by Abu Ahmad from the Ministry of Finance that Hamas could take diesel from the northern Gaza hospital.

“Abu Ahmad spoke with me yesterday and told me to fill up [diesel] at the Indonesian [Hospital]”, the citizen said.

“Who is Abu Ahmad?” the doctor replied.

“From the Ministry of Finance,” the Gazan answered.

The doctor replied there was no fuel left to give them, because other members of Hamas had already been there the previous night to “fill up”.

“The Ministry of Finance official told me last night that I should fill up for him (Hamas) only if he needs to move at night”, Dr. A’ataf said.

“I said to him that the hospital has 600 litres in the supply. Hamas told me to fill up with 600 litres for them.”

“For God’s sake, fill it up for him now. People are pressuring us. They’ll start shooting us!” the Gazan resident replies.

Hospitals in the region are suffering from a critical shortage of fuel, with the United Nations warning its health system is on the brink of collapse.

On Wednesday, the only hospital offering cancer treatment in the besieged region has been forced to close after running out of fuel, Palestinian health authorities said.

From the Comments

– Hamas cares only about Hamas objectives, civilians are shields and excuses.

Israel is under siege constantly from Hamas and associates.

– Surprise,Surprise!!! Perhaps Penny ,Albo, and the rest of his ministry might like to listen to that and perhaps they’d have a better understanding of exactly is going on

– Hamas controls everything in Gaza. Ordinary Australians know that but our politicians who keep sending millions of taxpayers money over seemingly don’t. How do you think they fund their hatred with rockets?

– What? It cannot be true, such a peace loving and democratic organisation!

Where is the bomber to defend the “undefendable”?

– Maybe Wong can organise more fuel for them.

– Send more money for Hamas government to misappropriate and deny citizens of shelters and other needs and build underground bases for terrorist activities.

duncanm
duncanm
November 2, 2023 1:18 pm

How many Gazans per IDF death, would indicate victory?

58% of WWII deaths were allied civilians, if you believe wiki.
25% allied military
15% axis military
4% axis civilians

by far the largest numbers of deaths were Soviet and Chinese.

numeric equivalence is meaningless. There is a morally right and wrong side in this conflict.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2023 1:20 pm

Follow me for more landscaping tips.

Those D9’s may get a lot of work. The IDF just might raze the place.

Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a ‘city of tents’ (11 Oct)

It’d be hard to build rockets in a tent.

P
P
November 2, 2023 1:21 pm

Darren Ally – Christians shelter in ‘Gaza Ark’ despite demands to evacuate

Darren Ally is the Manager for Communications and News Media at the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney.

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2023 1:21 pm

Besides which hamas already released their murder rape porn on 7th October and it was widely circulated on twitter Telegram etc.
Most of the Twitter stuff has been taken down.
Given the scenes in Gaza when Shani Louk’s body was paraded, it was not to horrify but to delight.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 1:24 pm

‘Blood, fire, and death’: War footage screened to journalists by Israel

The Australian’s National Affairs Editor Joe Kelly says he thought carefully about attending the screening of 43-minutes’ worth of war footage by Israeli officials, but decided it was important as a journalist to witness.

Mr Kelly sat down with Sky News host Rita Panahi to discuss the Israel-Hamas war and ongoing conflict.

“I thought it was important as a journalist who has covered parts of this story over the last few weeks, and the message from officials at the Israeli embassy also was they felt there was an obligation to show journalists this footage in the interest of getting the truth out there,” Mr Kelly told Ms Panahi.

“It is extremely disturbing … without a doubt the most disturbing footage I have ever seen.”

Warning: This video contains distressing content.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 1:27 pm

Penny Wong criticised over ‘equivocal’ stance on Israel-Hamas conflict

Sky News host James Morrow says Australian Labor Foreign Affairs Minister Peny Wong is sending the “wrong message” following a recent tweet about her concerns about a conflict in the West Bank.

Last night, Australian Labor Foreign Minister Penny Wong tweeted – “Australia is deeply concerned at reports of ongoing settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank.”

“This is the issue that Penny Wong is talking about not Hamas’ crimes, not Hamas please release the hostages,” Mr Morrow told Sky News host Rita Panahi.

“I think Penny Wong has been very equivocal on this and I think Labor has been, with a few exceptions quite equivocal on this.

“We’ve seen the same thing with the Democrats in the US as well here.”

bons
bons
November 2, 2023 1:27 pm

Bundy is, I find, a bit brutal but aficionados certainly swear by it. It has always surprised me how popular it is in the hot North; stockmen, miners, surveyors and station folks etc.

There is one Bundy product that is available only at the distillery which rates very highly on the yummatory scale; a spiced Christmas rum. Makes one a very contented bear.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
November 2, 2023 1:28 pm

it was not to horrify but to delight.

It stirred up thousands in celebrations around the world. They weren’t peace protsters in anger at anything Israel did or might do. It was glee for their dear Hamas.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 1:31 pm

Australia has taken 25 years to basically ‘stuff the energy system’

IPA’s Executive Director Scott Hargreaves says Australia has taken 25 years to basically “stuff the energy system”.

Mr Hargreaves’ remarks come after the Institute of Public Affairs released a new report titled ‘Energy Security is National Security’, written by energy expert and University of Queensland Adjunct Professor Stephen Wilson.

The report is a framework for better energy outcomes for Australia.

“We commissioned this report because we all understand we need to take affordability seriously for ordinary people … the missing dimension in thinking about energy is energy security,” Mr Hargreaves told Sky News host Rita Panahi.

“What this paper is doing is saying, ‘Here’s a better framework where we put energy security front and centre’.”

johanna
johanna
November 2, 2023 1:33 pm

The campaign against enjoying yourself continues, aided and abbetted by TheirABC. Although, I wonder how they would feel about pictures of rotted livers on the coffee table?

Winemakers collectively raised an eyebrow last week when the suggestion of extra health warnings for alcohol was floated by major national medical associations.

A recent nationwide study found a majority of Australians supported expanded health warnings on alcoholic beverages, and the Australian Medical Association and the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners both called for the warnings to be introduced.
A silhouette of a pregnant woman holding a glass of wine, inside a red circle with a line through it
Requirements for pregnancy health warnings on alcoholic beverages were introduced in July, 2020.(Supplied: Food Standards Australia New Zealand)

In addition, the Health and Aged Care Assistant Minister Ged Kearney said she had asked the federal Health Department to provide her with advice on “options for raising consumer awareness on the harms associated with alcohol”.

Those options could include labels for bottles, which has been introduced into law in Ireland, that warn of heightened levels of cancer from alcohol consumption.

Potentially, plain packaging or graphic imagery could be used in future for alcohol, as is currently the case for tobacco products.

They might run into a bit of opposition from Teals, doctors’ wives and wealthy Treechangers, though. I mean. having a quiet excellent wine and some fine cheese with a potential investor – what could possibly go wrong?

We need to understand that the would-be Controllers of our lives are never satisfied. They never sleep, and they never stop trying.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 2, 2023 1:34 pm
Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
November 2, 2023 1:38 pm

How many Gazans per IDF death, would indicate victory?

The exchange rate was established by Hamas with Gilad Shalit. 1,027 Palestinians for each Jew.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
November 2, 2023 1:41 pm

Sancho, I know this because I have seen how nations are voting in the UN.
This may come as a surprise to you, but there is very little support for Israel there.

9 IDF personnel were killed yesterday, bringing the total number of deaths to 11.
Additionally, I saw a report that asserted 7 hostages were killed in the refugee camp blast. I’ve only seen the one report, can anyone verify that?

Lizzie Beare, it is comforting to know, that you are happy for an unprepared army, to be thrown into a fight, with doubts about its logistical ability, just like the grand offensive in Ukraine, that even the US has now said, “has failed”.
Personally, I find that sort of attack, a sickening waste of life.

To simply throw away peoples lives, in a fit of pique, rather than think through what is best for your country, be it Ukraine or Israel, is ridiculous.
But hey, ……, suicide attacks shouldn’t be underestimated, hey Lizzie?
Die first, think later!
Gosh, I wish you were my CO.

Rabz
November 2, 2023 1:44 pm

treasurers can say anything they like about anything in and around the economy. They are perfectly entitled to look just as idiotic as any member of the economentariat

Or even more so, as they invariably do. See for example, that knucklehead Keating’s (invariably) inadvertently hilarious attempts to expound on matters economic.

Wrong, wrong and wrong again wouldn’t even come close to describing it. Then there’s the likes of Goose “the four surpluses I announce tonight” Swansteen.

Bill P
Bill P
November 2, 2023 1:46 pm

Curtis LeMay had some thoughts on this very topic.

Bombs away with Curt LeMay

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2023 1:46 pm

Trump now calling Jan 6 prisoners “hostages.”

Correct.

Figures
Figures
November 2, 2023 1:47 pm

I am as disgusted with the events of Oct 7th as anyone else, but watching that IDF LtCol interviewed by Blitzer, simply dismiss the deaths in that camp, was cringeworthy.

Just stop. You have been looking for any excuse possible to blame everything on Israel.

If Israel killed one civilian or a million, it would still be used by you to claim that Israel was evil.

Israelis are a million times more sensitive about civilian deaths than the British, American and Russian military were in WWII. So if you want to go down this path then that proves you think the people who fought Nazis were the bad guys.

So tell me Rufus:

Do you think the people who fought Nazis were evil?

It’s ok, you won’t answer this.

Coward.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2023 1:51 pm

I know this because I have seen how nations are voting in the UN.
This may come as a surprise to you, but there is very little support for Israel there.

The Arab countries, those whose vote they’ve bought and paid for and a handful of Western nations who should have known better.

Oh…and New Zealand.

Figures
Figures
November 2, 2023 1:51 pm

Rufus:

Lizzie Beare, it is comforting to know, that you are happy for an unprepared army, to be thrown into a fight

WTF? Are you trying to say that the Israeli army should stand down because fighting might get a bit rough?

Do you understand that Hamas wants to kill the people in their country?

Do you understand what an army is for?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2023 1:51 pm

Rufus T Firefly
Nov 2, 2023 1:41 PM
Sancho, I know this because I have seen how nations are voting in the UN.
This may come as a surprise to you, but there is very little support for Israel there.

Only someone completely detached from reality, or a Hamarse shill, could be surprised at the low level of support for Israel in the UN. A status that has applied since at least 1956.

shatterzzz
November 2, 2023 1:53 pm

And they wonder why Infrastructure costs blow out and why so many Builders are going broke!

Hang the costs this is big $bickies stuff for the unions with their inflated charges for a cert 3 in sign holding! ….. CentreLink & the job providers luv this stuff .. tax payers coughing up for a cert 3 in everything from origami to basket weaving ….!

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2023 1:54 pm

Actually, a Hamarse shill would be horrified that there is any support for Israel in the UN.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2023 1:57 pm

Is there one that’s unpeated?

Tobermorey is unpeated.

shatterzzz
November 2, 2023 1:58 pm

You may say we’ve changed since then, but our immigrants may surprise us in their commitment to fighting for the life they have chosen and developed in Australia

I’d luv this to be true .. but .. 30 years in English-as-a-4th-language Fairfield, NSW tellz me it’s pie-in-the-sky “dreamtime” stuff ………

Johnny Rotten
November 2, 2023 1:58 pm

Black Ball
Nov 2, 2023 11:27 AM
Terry McCrann:

The right thing for the Reserve Bank to do next Tuesday is to leave its official interest rate unchanged – but I’m now almost rooting for a rate hike.

Watch what the US Fed does this week. It may well be a strong indication on what the Reserve Bank does next Tuesday.

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2023 1:58 pm

‘A fit of pique’
Did you really say that.
Israel’s response to the slaughter of 1400 people and the kidnap of 240 is a ‘fit of pique ‘?
Just go away.

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2023 2:01 pm

Okay, then Israel should just surrender, lay down its arms, agree to a “Palestine, from the river to the sea”….and you wanna know what will happen? What happened on 7 October 2023 will be nothing compared to what will happen if Israel was to surrender and just give up, millions of Jews will be raped, butchered, burnt alive, slaughtered and the river will run deep with Jewish blood all the way to the sea.

But of course, this is exactly what Jew haters want.

My father used to try and explain to me what unhinged Jew hatred is, and I never quite understood but I do now. We saw this unhinged hatred it on 7 October 2023, and even before the corpses were cold, we saw people hit the streets in Sydney, London and so on screaming “gas the Jews” and “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”. We’ve seen it in Dagestan when mobs of frenzied young men tried to storm a plane because they’d been told that there might be some Jews aboard.

Enough, I’m over it.

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2023 2:03 pm

“To simply throw away peoples lives, in a fit of pique”

1400 men, women, children and babies murdered…..and you describe the Israeli response as a “fit of pique”.

Just go away.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2023 2:04 pm

Bundy is, I find, a bit brutal but aficionados certainly swear by it. It has always surprised me how popular it is in the hot North; stockmen, miners, surveyors and station folks etc.

My uncle first “went droving” out of Alice Springs in the late 1940’s and lived and worked in the Kimberlys for some forty years. He maintained all the old timers drank rum, because you could drink it at any temperature short of boiling. The newcomers drank beer, because there were the facilities to keep beer cold.

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