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In the image of the heroic John Curtin, who apparently ‘saved Australia’ by demanding the withdrawal of two of the…
The power to name a place denotes authority I hereby declare the place formerly known as Melbourne, Bearbrass, or Naarm…
My ego demanded I copy and paste this from the tail end of the last page, replying to Roger’s comment…
Why are Man City going shit all of a sudden? I like top shelf soccer. I don’t barrack for any…
My understanding is one gene is targeted which hits sensory perception and the flow-on effect is that it in turn makes perception and physical sensation similar to neurotypical people. That doesn’t exclude other genes, but if there are 20 approaches, you only need one, no?
I was talking to my support worker (Somalian refugee & Muslim) this morning. Islam is part of the problem, not the complete problem.
…and what if a boffin showed there was a (several) cause(s) (from modern civilisation) of the uptick in genuine autism cases, which causes MYT1L to become inactivated?
Christianity had many of the same issues as Islam today but they were in the twelfth or thirteenth century and long forgotten now.
Thanks Makka, yes Tom Holland was referenced by this guy but it wasn’t Tom himself.
Who was that Canadian red head bloke who used to proletise on youtube for Islam then converted back to Christianity and did youtubes exposing how mo had new revelations that suited his sexual desires etc?
It is an animal study. In utero the connectome trajectory is altered, drugs aren’t going to change that. There is the saying: if you’ve met one autistic you’ve met one autistic. With behavioral issues trying to tie the problem down to a single causative agent is fraught with peril. For decades they argued ADHD was because of a DAT transporter. Wrong. Schizophrenia was primarily about D2 receptor. Wrong. Depression is about 5- HT2a. Wrong.
Christianity in terms of dogmatic belief or various individuals who happened to be Christian?
Rosie:
Nov 13, 2023 1:49 PM
No, but Satan is.
duk, the data are so murky, nobody knows what is going on.
There is anecdotal evidence that parents and compliant doctors are feeding the ‘autism’ stream for the NDIS. Now that we have a ‘spectrum’, anything is possible. Any kid with so-called behavioural issues can be scooped up as autistic or having ADHD, and therefore requiring taxpayer funded ‘support’.
Acceptable behaviour has been re-defined to the point where what kids normally did even 75 years ago is now defined as bad, with associated pyschobabble. Meanwhile, what would have been defined as bad 75 years ago (like spitting or swearing at the teacher, let alone assault) is now called ‘acting out’ and reasons for it need to be found by caring professionals.
How much of diagnosed ‘autism’ is really that, how much there was earlier, what the definition even is – it’s all very blurry.
Islam is pernicious and dangerous nonsense. The only reason it is tolerated is because there are so many adherents and oil.
Found it!
His name is Dr Jay Smith.
For equity’s purpose, he also does a “hot take” on Mormonism but Islam is his key field.
He said most of his works come from works – “actually done from other eminent scholars who were just too scared to publish their works.”
Christianity in terms of different groups eg Lutherans, Protestants etc. Catholics v The Rest is a recurring theme equivalent to Shia v Sunni.
Funny how Barnaby had four daughters with first hand brake, the two sons with the upgrade. I noticed that just about all of the promiscuous blokes I know wound up with thousands of daughters when they finally settled down. Just an observation. Probably meaningless.
*then
Similar maybe, not equivalent. For one thing the Shia vs Sunni (and Sufism) ones have been violent since the 600s with no sign of resolution.
Remarkably simplistic, ahistorical wrongology. At the height of the Ottoman Empire Islamic society was more advanced the many (most?) societies. It worked well in low trust, preliterate societies. If can be rightly criticised for failing to recognise individual freedoms and self determination.
Tom Holland? Wrote a great book as well debunking Islam.
“In the Shadow of the Sword”, sits next to my Penguin Koran on the shelf. On the other side is “An Interpretation of the Arabs” David Pryce-Jones.
Prof. Kessler 85%: Shia and Sunni will unite if the threat is big enough. They did during the Crusades. This is the same threat. Taking back land that is regarded as the Dar al Islam. You all probably know the Arab saying: me against my brother, me and my brother against our cousins, our family against outsiders.
But 85% is probably a big percentage. I think the good professor is an expert on Malaysian Islam. In the Arab countries not everyone supports these groups because they also call for the overthrow of the monarchies and are linked to the Muslim Brotherhood. Probably why MBS (Saudi boss) mentioned the return of hostages.
Following thousands upon thousands of dollars of our own cash, our son was diagnosed with autism when he was five. We were late and should’ve picked up that earlier as he was a very quiet child who liked alone time analysing small intricate objects (toy car, lego etc..).
He turned 15 recently and he still needs cereal, teeth, water, heat pack, blanket and tucked in bed at night (and in that order or forget sleep!). He is extremely affectionate only to mum and goes psycho if anyone brushes past him… but he’s no savant or mathematical freak. In fact, he is accompanied by a very low IQ.
It’s changed my perspective on things like when I call someone an “idiot” (not that I am not “super intelligent” by a long way) but, in a world that places everything on intelligence, you start to think twice…. and perhaps a little more compassion for the old lady working in Woolies, or guy pushing trolleys…
Christianity, whatever the faults of its followers is a free will religion.
Islam is a proscriptive religion where every activity is either halal or haram.
Oh, I am, rosie.
I’ve seen these “joint decisions” before. It’s all about mum being one of the girls. Oh, that’s your mum? Well, I never! The later manic body building (sorry cohenite) was also a “tell”.
On the choirboy theory, the Beloved was a choirboy. One of the ones with a medal, being extra special and all. It appears to have worked. 😀
(not that I am not “super intelligent” by a long way)
A Freudian slip perhaps! 😛
flyingduk
Nov 13, 2023 4:40 PM
Never forget that every… ‘defective’ child that went to the gas chambers and the killing fields was sent there legally on the orders of a judge, escorted by an officer of the court, and murdered by an agent of the state.
Also known as Aktion T4 ie. the Nazi program of forced euthanasia of “deficient” individuals, under the generous supervision of Dr Karl Brandt.
Initially suggested by, as well as enthusiastically supported by the German medical establishment, who usually initiated the referrals to the program.
What would people have said about England v France around the time of Henry VIII? I’ll admit there is no real sign of Muslim progress. The only real thing that seems to work is a more despotic strongman eg Saddam, Gaddafi, ….
Optus Update
BGP admitted as the “network” issue behind recent Optus systems outage
3 points
– The same issue happened to other companies in recent years (FB, others). Ergo, Optus should have been prepared, but they were’nt
– The attack took a long time to recover from as Optus internal(“core”) networks relied on same routing backbone info as provided by BGP. Optus system design should be focused on separation so that core systems and essential services cannot be brought down by one component.
– Communications were abysmal and the CEO’s own cool management motto (“TOFU”) did not seem to be followed by anyone starting with the CEO.
See more here
*TOFU – Take Ownership, Follow Up. LOL might be more suitable …
I’ve been looking at various sites indicating the action, and some audio, where there has been sound of quite a few on the ground fire fights. The IDF are very well trained for this, moving from cover to cover. It hasn’t all been bombing by any means.
Re the tunnels, I heard one report of a tunnel where major fighting had happened with Hamas fighters exiting it and a large number being killed by IDF soldiers in a big battle, and then the IDF bombing both ends of that tunnel system, sealing in about a hundred fighters with no way out. The commentary, not IDF, said they were goners. That worried me. A horrible death for those Hamas, slowly axphixiating in the dark over a long period of time? I’d prefer them to be bombed to smithereens immediately, or given the opportunity to surrender if that was at all possible. War always has its moral burdens, I tell myself, and these fighters gave no quarter to civilians on Oct 7th so I stopped losing sleep over it.
Lysander
Even the threat of one over each of the 6 million+ inhabitant cities would – by panicked citizenry – destroy the Iranian economy, or even make the regime come down so heavily on them as to cause major civil disturbances.
We forget that nukes, chemical, and biological weapons are not just WMD, they are also psychological weapons.
Islam is part of the problem, not the complete problem
I agree. As mentioned up thread, inbreeding and shit-hole-ness would be a large part of it.
Observe more civilised moozlie places like Turkey and Bosnia in Europe, and Indo and Malaysia in SE Asia, then consult the in-bred map. I’d wager the 5-9% in Malaylsia is to do with the Indian population.
Sorry, link failure. It’s in Old Ozzie’s post at 2:45pm today.
Thomas Sowell- A History of the Jews Around the World:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BE6sOdHK30
and perhaps a little more compassion for the old lady working in Woolies, or guy pushing trolleys…
I have nothing but respect for those on the low end of the IQ scale that manage to live life as well as they can.
Id never sneer at a trolly dolly, instead Id go “bugger me, thats hard work in this heat” or similar.
If I ever won lotto I reckon I could have a worse legacy than setting up some supported village style living (similar to oldies villages) where some of the less severely affected could live, with suitable support.
Meanwhile in Bubbleworld aka Canberra:
The allegations surrounding former ACT Greens MLA Johnathan Davis, who resigned from politics and the party on Sunday night (12 November), have been referred to the Integrity Commission.
The remaining MLAs from his party are expected to present a united front when they face questions from the media later today.
Both ACT Labor and the Canberra Liberals have called for investigations into the allegations and how the complaints were handled by the ACT Greens.
Acting Chief Minister Yvette Berry said there were frustrations both in her party and the community about how the “serious allegations” had been handled and communicated.
“It’s troubling to know that the individuals involved felt it necessary to go public with their experiences to get action,” she said.
“Canberrans need confidence that allegations of this nature, no matter the profile of the people involved, will be handled sensitively.
“There are many questions that I have, that the ACT Labor caucus has, and that the community will likely have on how this episode was handled by the ACT Greens throughout the past week.”
The Canberra Liberals have also raised their concerns that it appeared there had been “inaction” by the ACT Greens when the issues were first raised.
“These are very serious allegations that have been made about the conduct of an MLA, and how this serious complaint was handled by the ACT Greens must be scrutinised,” leader Elizabeth Lee said.
“The Canberra Liberals call for an independent review on the handling of this by the Leader of the ACT Greens and the ACT Greens party.”
Questions have been raised about the specific allegations, if those allegations included potential illegal activity, why it wasn’t taken to police immediately if there were allegations of criminal activity, why a media inquiry appeared to spur further action, and if there had been any previous complaints or allegations made in relation to Mr Davis’s conduct.
Mr Rattenbury had told media he received the complaints on Monday (6 November) and launched an internal investigation.
While that investigation did not show “evidence of illegal activity”, the decision was made to report the matter to police, with the referral landing with ACT Policing on Friday (10 November).
A spokesperson confirmed on Monday (13 November) that a complainant had yet to come forward to police.
More…
I’ve just paid nearly $4k for my fifty year old son to be tested and at last diagnosed, something that as an adult he’s always resisted, even when his own son was diagnosed Level 2 ASD. When my son was a child and even a teen I took him to various clinics who all said he was basically fine, even though all the signs were there in his childhood and in his adult lack of employability and educational inability. ASD, not even ADD, just wasn’t on the agenda then unless there was an obvious and severe developmental and speech disability as well. My son has struggled with life, masking his difficulties where he could, drinking in outbursts to defray his feelings of despair about his life and his lack of success, relying on me a lot to calm down his panics, hysterias and angry meltdowns He’s learned to control a lot of this, but is still hopelessly disorganised and can’t fill in a form (though he can read quite well), losing track of the questions and becoming confused re answering them. He’s been on the dole all of his life, some of it on single parent benefit as he had sole custody of his son over the claims of the son’s severely schizophrenic mother. Getting public housing helped a lot to stabilise him, but it is not a good environment for kids. I mosly brought that grandchild up, re school, sports and keeping his home tidy, and having him on holidays at our place, as far too many grandmas do these days. We’ve been able to help more than most, so my son is lucky. He’s not been left to ‘community care’ on the streets where so many of his generation with ASD are dumped undiagnosed.
You are right Lysander about the need for kindness to those puddling along in low paid jobs or even at intersections washing car windscreens for a charity handout (now forbidden to do this, they simply jiggle a cup for it). I guess kindness day has some meaning after all when we think of how a smile and a dollar can make someone’s day brighter, or where a cheery appreciation of a supermarket trolley collector can do the same as you jump out of the way of his trolley train.
Lysander,
Just doing a bit of research after an observation I made yesterday. Norway has the highest percentage of EVs in the world, at almost 80%.
Just about every vehicle I saw yesterday was electric, including buses. Also, the scourge of abandoned scooters and e-bikes is also evident. They are a world-wide plague. The worst is when one of the scooter riding dills passes you at 30kmh on the footpath. It would only take a small deviation to hospitalise a pedestrian.
I also saw mounted police yesterday. The horses were in overcoats. 😀
Thanks Cats, good words indeed!
I now have to go get our new pup vaccinated (not Chinaflu :P)….
Schiesse!
I had an entire post about the form of moderate Islam in a modern society that has been spirited off and vapourised into the ether.
As Allah wills, apparently.
Trump should’ve left ISIS alone?
Perhaps… but it was a very good rehearsal for the real game which will occur if he is re-elected…
Uh huh.
The Integrity Commission thing isn’t actually going to help.
Looks like the Integrity Commission might actually come back to bite the useless Canberra Liberals on their lilywhite bums.
This is bizarre. The Greens are not part of the state apparatus (pipe down you jokesters).
So (let’s assume it’s false because there are no complainants) a false accusation must be reported to the Integrity Commission in the ACT about a public figure. It could be entirely fictitious, criminally fraudulent and defamatory.
I wonder if some Green Cat Laydee has just sown the wind in the ACT.
Dot.
The greens thing is strange.
Apparently sex partner was 17, legal age in the ACT.
Im unsure, other than the ick factor, why there are any proceedings/investigations/reasons to stand down.
Apparently referred to police who have said no offence.
I didn’t claim it was, in fact I was referring to the IDF ground forces getting in there with armoured bulldozers and cranes knocking over buildings so they cant be used by hamas.
The IDF are also identifying hamas locations from the ground when they encounter them and calling in air strikes, to minimise the risk to their ground forces in hand to hand.
Excellent.
After years of study, Leo Kanner presented his famous paper in 1943. Hans Asperger presented his paper in 1944, although in 1938 he “first designated a group of children with distinct psychological characteristics as ‘autistic psychopaths’.”
In Australia, the first childhood vaccines (triple antigen) were offered in 1953, fifteen years after autism had been identified and described.
During my years working and studying in the field, there have been many ’causes’ for autism (now ASD). The first that I remember was the ‘refrigerator mother’, (self explanatory,) then the ‘too intelligent embryo’ that couldn’t cope with the inhibitions of babyhood. For a time it seemed to be associated only with higher socio economic families, probably because they had the education and the ability to pursue diagnosis. Then the serotonin imbalance and more recently, childhood vaccinations.
As for
I am unaware of this and would appreciate a link. And, btw, if a school or any social situation needs to provide 1:1, 24/7 babysitting, then that agency must rethink their innefective education programs.
I have kept in touch with many. They are where they’ve always been: in centres like SA’s Minda Homes or Strathmont centre, or at home with bone-weary, frustrated parents.
That empire no longer exists. Over 2000 years of progress within Christianity has shown what a vile destructive religion Islam is. Admiring eras of Islamic governance doesn’t change the facts that Islam is a brutal murderous cult that rejoices in violence against it’s non-adherents.
Robert Spencer’s definition of a ‘moderate Muslim:
Is it [a moderate Muslim] one who will never engage in terrorist acts? That would make moderates an overwhelming majority of Muslims worldwide. Or is a moderate one who sincerely disapproves of those terrorist acts? That would reduce the number of moderates. Or is a moderate Muslim one who actively speaks out and works against the jihadists? That would lower the number yet again. Or finally, is a moderate Muslim one who actively engages the jihadists in a theological battle, trying to convince Muslims that jihad terrorism is wrong on Islamic grounds? That would leave us a tiny handful.
Judean Peoples Front?
Ocelots eyeball anyone?
Brought to you by….. Islam.
Last time I heard here about the ACT Green poo-jabber, there was a 15 year old involved. Not the case now?
Credit to NFA
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/nov/13/enough-is-enough-former-coalition-environment-minister-joins-push-for-a-national-ban-on-native-forest-logging
I remember when Hill was wheeled out as some sort of rock-ribbed conservative.
He’s a communist, greenie imbecile.
I do think the Furntiure place overuses traitor as a noun, but this certainly is a way to absolutely eff over regional areas.
The urban, green left bugmen would gladly shut down mining, agriculture, fishing, forestry etc. Basically nearly all of our primary industries and a lot of secondary industries.
It is snide, nasty and economic self-harm.
This kind of stuff drives me bananas. Part of the reason for housing affordability is the concentration of income in the capital cities where there are relatively few highly productive private sector jobs outside of finance.
If only we let people drill for oil onshore (taxed out of business), engage in native forestry (regulated out of existence largely by state law) etc. We’d have jobs galore, less income equity issues and the demand for capital city housing would drop.
There may be elements of this going on, as the funding is sugar on the table, but a genuine autism diagnosis does not just rely on oppositional behaviours or poor parenting. The diagnosis has some quite complex tests of neurological functioning as well as looking at behavioural case histories.
My son had various behavioural issues, which might be (poorly) explained by other circumstances, but a battery of tests has now shown his very real difficulties in aggregating and disaggregating spatial patterns, plus difficulties in recall, and recurrent linguistic oddities, as well as obsessive interests. Parents know. You can sense when a child is not normal. Ann Deveson called her similar child her ‘bird with a broken wing, trying to fly’. It’s heartbreaking. Deveson’s son, of my son’s generation, was diagnosed (probaby wrongly) with schizophrenia when he seems to me, from her book, titled ‘Tell Me I’m Here’ to more likely have had ASD disorder. He suicided. It broke her.
Neil, in the 7-Up Series, a sad case who struggled with life, seems to be another undiagnosed case of that period. Not disruptive, just lost into himself, incapble.
calli
Jayzus, Calli. They’d have been big overcoats. And how did the horsies deal with the buttons?
Media management you suspect.
The Ottoman Empire existed in spite of Islam not because of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Ottoman_genocides
THE LACK OF housing affordabilidee…
The house full of NDIS recipients next door don’t need support they need supervision. They don’t cook or clean and rarely shower always bickering. Mirrors some indigenous communities.
Let there be no mistake; Islam IS the problem. This cult promotes violence, death, intolerance , lies and subjugation. It’s answer for dealing with non-believers is death. If you happen to think that isn’t the problem then you really do need your head read.
Yeah Lizzie, I remember Neil from the 7 up series. As a 7 year old he was a real cool and bright kid; at 14 it looked like things were turning somewhat NQR. I wouldn’t classify him autistic. Something went pear shaped obviously.
Re; The article on previous page by Natasha Hausdorf – I remember her in this interview
Well, well, well.
How’s that Big Investment in ‘Digenous relations workin’ for you?
Exactly. This is why strict diagnostic procedures, including home and school/work observations are critical.
Once t’was thus. Now it’s a free for all.
With families clinging on, trying to help, if they are lucky.
Public housing collects a lot of them from the streets, from drug and alcohol abuse, and from an endless round of GP’s treating ‘depression’ and a general non-functionality. Where family contacts are lost no childhood histories are taken and no one cares, certainly no intesive psychological tests are run. Hand-holding at best.
In past times there were more low level jobs which they could do, with familial support, living in a caravan in the back yard etc. Not in our urban jungles though, nor with our multi-generational single-parent mothers, lost fathers and revolving door males.
Australiawide ban on using trees?
Ok, so we’ve got coast-to-coast rule by Lizard People, Labor and LNP, shires and cities.
Natural resources are a State jurisdiction. Let’s say a future WA, broke, jobless, beset by roaming gangs of the 1% and crippled by blackouts, votes in the Libertarian Party under Zack Van Tongerup. Kicks the celestials out of the ports, unplugs the turbines, declares the state once again open for industry- forestry, gas extraction, aluminium smelting, whaling, the lot. What the hell could a Federal Government do about it? Could PM Wong stop the rennaissance?
I suppose they could stop the electronic money supply, but then WA could very easily stop the remittance of taxes. They could say Australia is signatory to any amount of UN stewardship treaties- though those treaties never faced an election, plebiscite, or basic publicity.
What could happen, apart from Robertson’s Damnation, wherein Retiring Politicians Will Find It Very Difficult To Land Prestigious International Appointments?
It seems impossible that we would forget genocides of entire people, but events like the Assyrian genocide show us how fickle human memory can be. Also called the Sayfo, meaning ‘the sword’, the Assyrian genocide was one of three mass campaigns of extermination waged by the Ottoman Empire during the First World War. Alongside the more famous Armenian genocide and that of the Greeks, hundreds of thousands of Assyrians lost their lives in racially and religiously motivated atrocities at the command of the Ottoman government between 1914 and 1918.
Three prem babies in humidifiers dead in Gaza. More to come.
News media reporting this in hushed tones. Shocking. Inhuman.
Abortions at seven, eight, nine months ? That’s different.
It’s minus 3 here this morning. All the cars are covered with ice and snow, and the little school children look like starfish, so rugged up are they. About to go out and have a look at the cathedral and maybe do some shopping. Then a cruise around the Oslo fjord.
I’m just going outside and I may be some time.
Outstanding. Just outstanding.
short twitter post illustrative of how IDF is conducting their war.
Zafiro
Nov 13, 2023 6:24 PM
No 15 years old mentioned in the ABc reportage.
Assuming the initial reportage was incorrect.
I would. A a very active child on his bike, but with few or no friends. Fairly normal in speech, although a little ‘airy’ in tone. First bell rings at that. Then at fourteen making heavy weather of growing up, non-communicative and a little surly (another bell) and at 21 living out of home but problems with his housemates (yet another bell). More significantly, showing poor eye contact with the interviewer and unable to give a coherent account of his life and why he was unable to stick at anything educational or workwise. At 28 he’s drifting around the country, unable to settle, running away from himself, and admits to gentle probing he’s not doing so well, doesn’t deny a mental issue. Doesn’t seem to be drugs, but clearly some self-neglect setting in. Same for 35 and we are left to wonder what’s wrong. He’s a mess. Then, as a public figure, he gets taken in by a small community and does well, but still drifts on and away. The last one I saw he was ‘finding himself’ as a local council member in a rural community, elected because ‘known’ and encouraged, and a Liberal Democrat, but obviously still requiring a lot of social and emotional support. Still ‘not right’. Trying hard, but still evading eye contact. All suggestive of ASD to me.
I’m doing this from memory of the show, and of course it could all be wrong, both in my memory and in his life in ways that aren’t up for public view. But this sort of ‘not fitting in’ and confusion re the self vs the rest of the world is fairly classic of ‘neuro-diversity’, as it’s called today.
hamas stooping lower than anyone can imagine.
Last one I saw had him elected to his local council, I think, and doing a good job of it. Could be obsessive. No doubt an asset when fighting with other bureaucrats.
Minus 3? T-shirt weather in Russia. Pussy Norgaygiens.
Thanks mole, and yes jorge.
Johanna it is not that murky. One salient point that people overlook:
This is part of a broader problem. The author of the book below was head of the taskforce for DSM IV. A good though very troubling read.
https://www.amazon.com/Saving-Normal-Out-Control-Medicalization/dp/0062229265
Did you look at the Daily Mail?
That’s no upgrade.
I still maintain they are a cynical double act.
Her writing the rev-up articles for the base in the Daily Telegraph, and him playing it safe in Canberra to keep those prahvate school fees and other little looxuries paid.
Remember.
The useless fat dickwad signed us up to net zero for a couple of barrels of pork which Luigi never delivered anyway.
So, you know … GET F-CKED BARNABY!
Without knowing the detail, I am guessing that leader-in-waiting Tanya Plibs has the new Ozzie EPA lined up, once legislated, to handle just that kind of environmental disaster where the wrong kind of people simply go ahead and use natural resources to avoid starvation without any virtue signalling. Quelle Horreur!
What’s that word? It’s escaped me….
Ahh…now I remember.
Inshallah.
The Hun:
$1,000,000 is – according to the Magic Internet – about 100,000 kg of mushrooms.
OK Lizzie, I suppose mothers have more insight etc. You have recalled the poor bloke very accurately IIRC. I’m just thinking that autism is supposed to kick in a bit earlier than what it did with him.
You really are fixated on those school fees Sancho! I know. I used to be too.
I think they just like power for its own sake. Barnabub was up in the bay spruiking non-building of wind turbines. He’s very flexible over Net Zero.
😀
Worried you?
Why?
You’d prefer Israeli soldiers engage them at the entrance?
Or blow the place up and be accused of killing some kid 500 metres away.
Link to the ABC update on the 17 and 15 year old stories.
Query – if said MP has done nothing illegal why has he resigned?
That’s because he’s an opportunistic prick.
It’s amazing the number of Australian doctors who support death cults like Hamas because their vow to aid the sick has been overtaken by an ideological blood lust to kill the innocent.
I have never drilled one off the blocks at Portsea Golf Club, but I am told it’s quite the flash hoity-toity arrangement. However, it would appear I am not alone. The headline (Hun, again):
Hahahaa. The sub:
Aaaaahahahhahahaa. From the piece:
Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.
You just know there’s a bit of ‘Do. You. Know. Who. I. AM?’ going on.
Tim Scott has officially ended his campaign for President in 2024
Why dont they just flood the tunnels with sea water. Simple, cheap, easy.
Sounds right, based on my friends in the Lib Dems.
Man, that Green leader in ACT looks like someone who should be nothing more than a toilet attendant (h/t Capt. Mandrake)
It did say one was 15, which could be a problem.
I wonder if it was an “in loco parentis” situation, with kids being seconded in on work experience, or acting as a sporting coach or something.
Rosie:
Premature babies generally need supplemental O2. A couple of them appear to have nasal cannulae taped to their cheeks, but there’s no connection to O2 supply.
Paliwood.
Sorry ’bout that. Real sorry.
Labor’s Latest Scheme to Buyback More Farmers’ Water
When I was at uni in 1964 the Commem Day (muck up day) charity at SU was Inala, a new residential facility for something called Autism. No-one had ever heard of it. It was explained as a disabling communication disorder that often meant a lack of proper speech and a functional incapacity, not usually accompanied by any other obvious or physical disability. We now know this as Level 3 autism. Inala still exists, it is in Vaucluse, and caters to level 3 autism as far as I know. Level 3 ASD people are now placed in group homes, along with other severely disabled people. So that’s where the ‘serious’ cases are today, institutionalised in some way, as ever.
It is the ‘less serious’ on the Spectrum cases of that era that fill the public housing high rises. They survive, just about, on unemployment benefits. My son has been one of those.
I remember some random dude posting on the old Cat that he used to play school golf with Andrews at Wangaratta? Said he always cheated. Cheating at golf is a very taboo thing as we all know. Perfect trait as a recruit for Labor.
Penny Wong confronted on anti-semitism
Working for a Catholic Intellectually disabled association in the office in 1989 and 1990, I came to know many of those who were in our 3-4 houses.
At a day when all houses came together for a monthly meet, I asked my kids who had a band at that time if they would go along and play for nothing for the residents of the homes. They did. What a surprise it was for them when some of the residents who played against them at snooker, won. Next when their band played one of the ‘intellectually handicapped’ grabbed the mic and added to the performance.
Another day when left at the office with one of residents of our homes. when my husband came to pick me up I asked if he could drive him home. The surprise for us was that he knew every street and where to turn etc. It was many suburbs away from our office. No need for our directory which I could never read properly anyway.
I and my family were blessed to have had these experiences.
This morning I was reminded of this by DrBeauGan at 7:59 am
Cameraman?
Because I hate the thought of dying like that. I am claustrophobic enough to imagine it and not wish it on anyone. However, as I’ve said re this war, needs must, and as I also said, I talked myself out of feeling any pity for a fellow human being dying that way.
Hamus deserve everything that they get. I’ve never resiled from that, Sancho.
This is way too vague and common to show much at all. Yes, I know it goes on further.
Even as children, people gravitate to closer friends.
Moving out and having domestic issues in a share house is ubiquitous.
Does anyone who doesn’t seek fame like being interviewed?
The cops apparently said there was no cause for it to be investigated further?
I also recall another random poster back in the day, Blair’s blog I think, that said she was in high school with Gillard in Adelaide. The hag never spoke with that nasally ockerish drawl back then. They are all phonies.
I remember when the photo of Barnaby and Vicki was first published, it was interpreted as Barnaby having a perve at Vicki’s legs. Then it was corrected here as Barnaby waiting to pass Vicki a sheaf of papers while she was distracted by the photographer coming in for a close up. That was the interpretation I felt was more correct.
Now it’s being reframed into the pair of them are in league together to rip off the benefits of a Senate seat.
What changed?
It looks like the only thing that changed was Newcats perceptions they weren’t getting the payoff they wanted.
Heston Russell lobbying for a “veterans protection act” and disgusted by politicians grandstanding on Remembrance Day.
Blackballing people at the golf club is one of life’s pleasures.
Hi Calli
No problem about the Fram, just making sure I wasn’t losing my memory. It is at least 60 years since I read that book.
Wife and I are spending a few days at Nelson Bay, very nice.
On a related subject, I notice that the sponsors of the offshore wind factory have now produced an “eggspurt” to tell us his/her/xer “research” proved that whales are not affected buy offshore wind generators. Rather than get involved in an unwinnable battle of the eggspurts, might it be more productive to “accept” the report, but demand that the eggspurt and the proponents show their confidence by providing a financial warranty?
Write into the approval that, for every dead whale found within ten kilometres of the factory boundaries, the owners will pay compensation of, say, $20 million, and the guaranteeing eggspurt $50,000? That would focus minds, and possibly change the mind of the eggspurt.
PS, any news on your father?
I make no judgment on Barnabus and Vikki Campion’s personal life, I felt very sorry for him when his marriage to his wife broke down, I regard any marriage breakdown as a tragedy, I know this because I’m the child of a marriage breakdown, a bitter one at that. I remember how Vikki’s pregnancy was revealed on the front page of the Daily Telegraph, and I remember thinking this was quite deliberate, designed to malign and humiliate both him and Vikki. It happened on the heels of his citizenship imbroglio, and you could see the misery on his face. The MSM went after him because they’ve long loathed his conservative stances, particularly on SSM and abortion. He and Vikki had the MSM shine a prolonged burning torch on them, in a way that was never done to Billy Shorten, or Tony Burqa (when he left his wife to shack up with his Green staffer, God knows why any woman would find Tony Burqu attractive), or Albanese for that matter (puke, puke).
Barnabus and Vikki have now been together almost seven years now, and they appear happy. As for the his girls, the distance between them is sad, I’m sure he loves them…..but the very public breakdown probably humiliated the girls at a sensitive time in their lives, they were all in their late teens and well, being a woman I understand how we women think and operate. I was a young woman in my very early twenties when my mother left my father, I was very hurt, very angry, and very obnoxious towards my mother for quite a few years, I refused to speak to my mother for over a year. I had known my mother and father’s relationship had been terrible, but I didn’t want them to break up.
For the record, I met Vikki at CPAC this year and had a long conversation with her about politics. She’s a most attractive woman but more importantly, she’s a really intelligent and vivacious woman, a great conversationalist. I can see why he fell for her.
Having said all of that, I’m glad he’s no longer leader of the Nats, I prefer Littleproud, who is steadier, calmer and more rational.
However, just reading the Daily Mail this evening, it appears Vikki’s father has spoken to the media and attacked the girls for not attending the wedding. I think that is unwise. Airing laundry like that is not nice.
Razey
.1 It takes a lot of water to fill 500km of tunnel.
.2 Air locks will stop a lot of water entry.
.3 One low point opened up in the system will allow water above a certain height to flow out into the street, and not allow any further height of water.
.4 Unless the water is put in to flood the lower levels and gradually inundate the foundations of the buildings above, and cause their collapse, it won’t work.
Sorry.
I should also that that I’m angry with Joyce, not for his marriage breakdown, but because he betrayed us by caving on net zero. That was unforgiveable, he sold out for a bit of pork.
Cassie: Barnaby said something about him and his first wife not having had sex in years to justify his interest in the new bird. Disgraceful. Keep it to yourself. Incredibly rude to the woman who he shares four kids with. I’m not surprised the daughters don’t care for him.
I didn’t get as far as being blackballed at Cottesloe GC. Most guys fathers who were members had died which wasn’t much use. Knew a few guys who played pennants as juniors but lost interest in the whole thing which saved me about $5k.
With families, public or not, there is a lot that goes on behind closed doors. No comment is always the best policy.
Have a look at this. Just look at it (the Tele):
Once again. Yet again, drama wholly created by a Britney.
That’s not the best bit. This is the best bit:
Ah, no. They were in a public place, with no expectation of engaging in a private activity. No, no, and no.
Brih-nee copped a $500 fine.
If there’s ever a case for a Pat Pizza thong-slap across the chops (given some of our Middle Eastern friends’ aversion to such things) then Britney and daddy Britney should be copping a barrage that sounds like it came from an A-10 Warthog cannon muzzle.
A *BrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRR* of thong-slaps.
Good lord.
Watched part of that ridiculous Martin Armstrong interview on Zeee Media.
7/10 was just like 9/11 – the US knew WTC was going to be attacked, Israel know Hamas was going to do the incursion.
Zafiro
It’s question 14 on the Labor Party Member Application Questionaire.
Why would hamas slowly asphyxiate in a tunnel?
I imagine once electricity and thus oxygen is cut off death would come fairly quickly.
No-one made them use tunnels.
Is this the father that also said he hadn’t spoken to his daughter in years? If so – piss off. Your opinion on such things is worth less than nothing.
I’m sure there’s been a further deluge of (form) letters to the Cairns Post on the subject, sandwiched between other correspondence on imminent UN invasions of Australia and lizard people elites.
Having a look at the Australia One party site.
I am almost, almost, almost certain the whole thing was set up by Bosi to suck in and discredit right-wingers.
They still have an interview up with some loon who reckons he is part of a micronation and involved with the people who abducted Grace Hughes.
Golf has a peculiar ethics. Vijay Singh always had a question mark against him throughout his career and he wasn’t alone. No wonder Chairman Dan would struggle.
Anybody watching Q&A tonight? The Israel v Palestine episode with the convicted kidnapper.
Dont want to break my clean record of not watching for several years.
You have nothing to gain from watching QANDA.
SovCits ahoy!
Birth certificates! No standing!
One of the thoughts I had was that the IDF could dump liquid nitrogen into a tunnel system. One litre of liquid N2 turns into 700 L of gaseous N2. The cost of liquid nitrogen is about that of milk.
So get a tanker truck of liquid nitrogen, attach a hose, shove the hose down the tunnel and turn on the tap. The 30,000 L in a tanker would do for about 10 km of tunnels.
The IDF infantry would need cold weather gear to go in afterwards but, since the temperature would be sharpish. And breathing gear of course.
Carbon dioxide would be better, since it’s heavier than air. But dry ice isn’t so easy to use as liquid N2 would be.
Bruce
Ether (diethyl ether).
You know the rest.
I remember the interruption lotto and the arse-less chaps up for grabs, but could never watch more than a minute or two of the shite without wanting to go postal.
Im not sure Israel is quite prepared to cop the “YoU ArE NAZISSSS!!!!” they would get for even suggesting using any form of asphyxiating gas in the tunnels.
Anyway the first thing the Pallysimians would do would be to film a hostage choking to death.
The ALPBCwithout Snowcone, Ol’ Leathery, Red Kezza and the rest is just sad. It’s like a Marxist CWA now.
Mong apologises for something he had no part in.
After supporting the experimental vaccination of nearly the whole population and promoting its use in population cohorts where the risk almost certainly outweighs the benefits.
Australian government will apologise to people affected by thalidomide tragedy
PM Anthony Albanese says formal apology for effects of morning sickness drug that caused birth defects during 1950s and 1960s is well overdue
I wonder if they have the self awareness of a small mollusc with an acquired brain injury?
A national apology was the first recommendation of a 2019 Senate committee report that also discussed calls from survivors for a recognition site.
The report found survivors believed Australian governments had a “moral obligation because they allowed thalidomide products to be sold in Australia without proper testing and because when Australian governments were informed about the risks of thalidomide they did not do enough to ensure that the products were removed and destroyed.”
I’m watching the “Liberals in Power” on Sky that Chris Kenny recorded. There is a curious trait or characteristic that all of Tony Abbotts enemies in his parliamentary party have in common. None of them did anything to get rid of him, it all just happened. What a snake pit.
Dot – That might come under the chemical weapons laws. N2 though is 79% of normal air so you can’t exactly call it a chemical weapon.
Another idea would be to hook a jet engine to the tunnel, and run it rich. That would deplete oxygen levels very quickly. I dunno what the laws of war say about such things though.
Daily Mail. Did she break down for the innocent children murdered by the sub human savages of Hamas?
It isn’t just about killing hamas, it’s about destroying the tunnel system.
That’s why, mostly they drill down the 40 metres to the rat runs and blow them up.
Well, maybe.
But the panic. The panic of suffocating in the dark.
It’s nowhere near what they deserve, but it’s something.
Outstanding indeed.
This is no Marquess of Queensberry show.
We are talking about those who are OK with all manner of despicable crimes against the innocent and the defenceless.
And this isn’t just about retribution.
It has tactical value.
As some here are fond of saying, “pour encourager les autres”.
Once word gets out about bruddas being buried alive and dying like rabbits in a burrow after the ripper has been through, you can bet their colleagues above ground won’t be looking at the tunnels as quite the “safe space” they used to.
I’m glad to see that quite a few Liberals regretted supporting Turnbull. Too bad they didn’t do anything to fix what they did even after the voters said at the 2016 election that they didn’t like Malcolm.
I don’t want people to die. My preference is that civilians and the IDF don’t die (and Hamas surrenders and faces court for their rapes, baby killing etc).
If they don’t surrender, they die. It’s a grim choice but the alternative is worse.
poor hamas in a tunnel
As you say.
“Do you know who I am?”
Well, it would seem the members of Portsea GC do know who he is, and they don’t like what they see.
This has zero to do with party politics.
I’m sure if Steve Bracks was testing the membership waters, he’d be waved through.
Without putting too fine a point on it, they don’t want a member who is a bullying c-nt.
The funny thing is, Max Beck will now have a question mark against his name for being silly enough to raise it in the first place.
The only civilians that can be assumed innocent are the babies, Dot. The rest including the children are at least suspect Hamas collaborators.
Also on the panel Mark Leibler. (& Dave Sharma)
Added benefit: Apparently tonight’s show will be made without a studio audience, due to it not being possible to guarantee the safety of audience members.
(Haven’t been able to confirm the “can’t guarantee the safety of people attending a show which includes a Jew” – however it is both plausible & was all briefly put up on social media by ABC personalities – though I didn’t have the time to verify this)
Lyndsay Fox needs to do a Kerry Packer and just build 18 holes somewhere. You know, for old times sake.
Innocent? Yes.
Assumed to be non-combatants? No.
Guess they must have the muzzy courtesy bus parked up.
The 14 seat majority? Nope, didn’t think so.
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Sounds a bit like a traditional English dish you might serve with onion gravy.
I’ll have the Hamas in a tunnel with chips.
Intersectionality Devolves
Left-wing radicals have long supported the violent “decolonization” of Israel.
Would you like to see the wine list?
That can happen if you are rooting the help while mum is at home bringing up four teenage girls.
BREAKING: UK’S HOME/DHS SECRETARY FIRED AFTER POLICE BIAS COMMENTS
Obviously, telling the truth is the greatest crime. The weasel David Cameron has been appointed foreign secretary in her place.
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A nice fruity little Cabinet- Hezbollah.
Turd in the hole?
Sancho Panzer at 9:04 – Have you even been to Canberra?
KD at 8:02.
You just get the feeling that Britney’s dad is a yuuuge part of the problem here.
Argon
It’s basically a company town where the only reason you check the shift roster is when you want to go round and root somebody’s wife.
I think it probably did. He wasn’t the most normal of the kids even then if you look closely at his TV interations. He’s hesitant. A bit airy, a bit dreamy perhaps. His parents might have more clues – was he obsessive, or averse to certain combinations of foods or clothing, textures, patterns, or fussy about routine to the point of refusing to comply if things weren’t ‘just so’? Did he have late developing speech? Did he tend to have meltdowns of frustration? Did he have sleep problems? So many things only parents know about. Was he clumbsy? Did he panic at loud noises, running water, or anything else suggestive of feeling insecure about the inputs he was receiving? Did he refuse to go into crowds? Did he want to be alone and away from people directing him? Was he often fearful and in need of reassurance?
All clues. All normal, but if they are occurring together, it’s a syndrome emerging.
I had a good laugh at that one. To paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davies, he would say that, wouldn’t he.
Lizzie, Lysander, much love.
Pat
Sorry Lizzy. This is just too general.
Show me a kid that doesn’t in some way have all of those traits (besides obsession with pattern or routine and late-developing speech) and you’re probably got a potential Olympian, brain surgeon and humanitarian on your hands.
Having a kid called Britney, Britnee, Britnay is a clue. Stripper names should stay at the club.
Daily Mail. Look what’s crawled out of the woodwork.
This is from way back.
Id never sneer at a trolly dolly
Not even on Quaintarse?
Then that’s open slather for “Kill-the-Jews” street marches, continued desecration of British national monuments, etc.
Ummm, Sixty five thousand years ago?
Especially on QANTAS.
This is urban legend, but a cool story nonetheless.
The houses for married soldiers near Holsworthy.
Wives into playing around would put one of two laundry powder boxes in the window.
OMO = Old man’s out.
FAB = F***ing asshole’s back.
Some of those long haul International birds give real meaning to the phrase battle hardened.
Braverman was one of the few righties left in the Tory government.
Lights out when the election comes, the UK will be a leftist Jew-hating craphole. Labour will rape the place to death and colonize it with voteherds.
British Home Secretary Suella Braverman has been removed from government just days after she criticised what she called soft-touch, preferential handling of anti-Israel, pro-Palestine protests in London, causing an outpouring of anger from the UK left, and even some within her own party.-Despicable and contemptible
This kind of recycling is the best indicator that a government is circling the plughole. Used Carr anyone?
Maybe the Saxons there might begin to Hate? Probably not.
Get fifty pigs. Big ones, wild, hairy, with tusks.
Let the go hungry then feed them meth.
Release them into six or seven tunnel entrances.
I do wonder if Dover might consider running a Letters to the Editor thread.
A bit like Tom’s cartoons.
Only different.
Hamas fighters exiting it and a large number being killed by IDF soldiers in a big battle, and then the IDF bombing both ends of that tunnel system, sealing in about a hundred fighters with no way out. The commentary, not IDF, said they were goners. That worried me. A horrible death for those Hamas, slowly axphixiating in the dark over a long period of time?
If they build long tunnels, it is a fair bet they also build concealed vents along the way. I would expect they have contingencies such as food, water and air which may not ultimately save them but it will give them some time…
Gassing people?
I don’t think you’ve worked through the PR optics on this one, Titus.
Not voluntarily.
Sancho – you can’t gas someone with air. Air is 79% nitrogen. Nitrogen is therefore harmless, exactly like water is. If you flooded the tunnels with water that wouldn’t be gassing people, now would it? Hey I have an idea!
Pretty sure Sancho wasn’t talking about 79% Nitrogen.
As I said, you haven’t worked through the PR optics on this one.
You know what?
I don’t think the IDF really need your whacky ideas.
They seem to be doing just fine without Private Titus leading the charge.
Why don’t you have a crack at explaining how GST on a birthday cake works, Titus.
For the record, I hate micromanagers.
My mum told me a family friend was told by his wife (allegedly) that she had shut up shop. Forever. She was late 40s. A lovely lady, but surely asking for trouble from a husband faced with masturbation for the rest of his life, being celebate or finding a willing accomplice. He, not completely unpredictably, chose the latter. Marriage is a joint endeavour, so arbitrarily deciding for the other is understandably fraught with uncertainty.
Feel free to comment, Cats.
There’s no “urban legend” about it – the “elephant trackers” on a certain defence force establishment were aware of the practice in the late 1970’s.
Ex-Missus double mastectomy and ovaries removed. BRCA-1 gene. Shop shut forthwith. We are still good mates. Raising a daughter together, but yeah.
Zafiro, i think that comes very much under “mitigating circumstances”.
Sancho:
Whenever I think of showing some mercy to the rats in the tunnels, I think of the family of four that were tortured, butchered, and then shot, and then their breakfasts being eaten amongst the carnage.
No prisoners, no mercy. Mad dogs are just put down because that’s what you do with mad dogs.
Sitting on a bench and watching the city go about its business when you have nowhere to live runs a close second.
Oh right Beery. You meant a woman that just decided to shut up shop. I’m on page.
That’s asking for trouble. I believe I had a grandmother that did that. Grandfather just ended up rooting her widowed sister, apparently.
Then don’t play ANNO 1404 because whoever designed that game was a micromanaging obsessive.
Just saw a clip on the picture wireless.
It was from NZ. A pro-Pally demonstration was met by 100 or so largish Kiwis, waving Israeli and NZ flags.
The Kiwis then proceeded to perform a decent haka, directly in front of the faux-Pallys.
No more Pally demo. Excellent.
“If the shop is shut, if you aren’t prepared to meet my needs, if you aren’t even prepared to talk about it, what right do you have to demand anything from this relationship. Doesn’t all this talk of commitment and fidelity go for a ball of chalk?”
Australia truly is the arse-end of the world. Just saw on the Late Debate on Sky how Maoris came out in support of their Jewish citizens when confronted by Palestinian protesters. The M?oris faced performed a haka while standing in front of the Jews and facing the Palestinians supporters. Our Blackfellas line up with the Palestinian supporters.
The news reports also failed to show the massive anti-semitism protests all over Europe, much bigger than the Palestinian supporters’. We are not allowed to know the real state of the world and we wouldn’t if there was no Sky even if this late at night.
Just Whitey and us in NZ is where the Maori sit, I reckon. And maybe that Indian kid who can really bat.
Seems topical, people don’t carp on about the Sri Lankans for sorting the Tamil Tigers out anymore. They had a similar problem to the Pallys that required forging ahead over the hyperventilating to fix rather than perpetuate it with half measures.
Chinese involvement probably helped.
Perhaps release them near a pro-Palestinians/hamas protest.
Brahms:
“Who, in your opinion, was a perfect type of the creative genius?”
“Beethoven. He had lofty inspirations, and at the same time he was an indefatigable worker. We all have to work hard.”
Einstein spent a decade developing GR.
Conscientiousness is a vital component for success(cf OCEAN personality profile). Conscientious +innate talent and the potential is huge. Terman’s famous studies on gifted children found up to a third lived ordinary lives. I don’t have a problem with that. Just because a person can run a 4 minute mile doesn’t mean they have to do that but when gifted people fail to reach their full potential there might be something in their life that prevented the realization of their gifts. SBK, a psychologist I consider to be hopelessly misguided, wrote Twice Exceptional, a book exploring how highly gifted individuals can have traits which limit their success(eg. ADHD, dyslexia). At least he is right about that but I cannot forgive any psychologist who thinks Positive Psychology is a valuable contribution to psychology. It’s just dressed up self help crap borne out of Seligman’s famous and cruel experiments on dogs; though Seligman wisely completely disavowed himself of any association with PP.
Now what game can I play next because I’m too old for this thinking shite? I grow old, I grow old, I can’t walk along the beach because these palpitations persist. At fib or just age, time to die?