Open Thread – Mon 20 Nov 2023


La Grenouillere, Auguste Renoir, 1869

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Pat Mac
Pat Mac
November 20, 2023 1:00 am

Morning all!

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 1:02 am

Me just saying I am a student of propaganda hits so many buttons… Well you must want to argue about something !!! Bring it on ..and since I didn’t … the arguments I didnt make, get attributed to me ….

Propaganda… a fascinating topic…

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 1:07 am

Look it is tragic… and I am trying to find an interest in something more productive…

Not having Keyboard warfare with angry people, has to be the very definition of wasting time.

Perhaps I will buy myself a wet suit and go North in search of salt water and fish ..get some vitamin D and something to chuck on the griddle?

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 1:11 am

@Dover ..

“Door of Sorrow “.. it always is … when I was badly depressed I got myself back into the race .. With this “If I cannot subtract from the sum of human misery .. please God dont let me add to it” ..

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
November 20, 2023 1:15 am

If the “door of sorrow” is a reference to that poor child Indi Gregory, then, sadly, Dover, I really doubt it will be. It should be. State-sanctioned murder of an innocent should always be.

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 1:20 am

In either case i am out of my depth … had no idea about the references being made… forgive me if I have been rude or clueless.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
November 20, 2023 1:23 am

Well then, my google-fu isn’t up to your reference, I fear.

In other news, the Indians have made a potentially fatal mistake in not getting Head out. Allowing him to stay in for elongated periods )i.e. > 50 balls in ODI) has proven to be a problem for oppositions over the journey.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 20, 2023 1:51 am

The bloke should have stepped in and stopped it. Not impressed.

—-

Steve Inman:

Bully tries to film their next victim and ends up victim instead

Gabor
Gabor
November 20, 2023 2:10 am

What’s this gibberish about ‘Propaganda’, really, it is getting tiresome.
If you want to study it, go the frigging library, nobody is spreading it here.

There is enough crap to scroll by as it is, no need for yours as well.
Go away.

Gabor
Gabor
November 20, 2023 2:12 am

Steve trickler
Nov 20, 2023 1:51 AM

That’s an old one, you posted it before.

That bloke had better sense then stepping in, he may have had both of them turn on him.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 20, 2023 2:18 am

Gabor
Nov 20, 2023 2:12 AM

For others that haven’t seen it.

All the best.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 20, 2023 2:24 am
Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 2:44 am

@Gabor

I could see why and how Monty had such fun with you folks. It was horrific. He would post something then for pages and pages you all went into an orgasm of repudiation and and self reverential froth … as if you could both bore each other into a form of mutual annihilation …

I guess He had one two many do nuts…

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 2:47 am

@Gabor

No seriously .. you guys are a Petri Dish …

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 2:58 am

@ Gabor

Not that I get a kick out of trying to rev you up… I just am normal and you get revved up anyway…

What would be the fun in teasing you?

A Good Scientist doesn’t poke the experiment.

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 3:06 am

@Gabor

As to propaganda ? It is all pervasive and emanates from conflict … always has ..what is interesting is how it affects the recipients… what you believe and why… what sources do you rely upon and how do you chose them? And to what degree do you believe what you want the be True? Sure I do study it in the Library ..

Gabor
Gabor
November 20, 2023 3:12 am

Mark Bolton
Nov 20, 2023 2:58 AM

@ Gabor


Not that I get a kick out of trying to rev you up… I just am normal and you get revved up anyway…

You don’t ‘rev’ me up, you bore me to death.
Do you ever read your own posts before posting?
Most make no sense.
If you were normal you wouldn’t hit the Post button.
Anyways, not my blog, if Dover has time for you, fine with me, it’s just that I had a gutful of your inane rubbish today.

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 3:15 am

@Gabor

It was never my intention to be nasty …I just wanted to get a feel for how real you guys are ..as individuals… as plain folk.. and I never was provocative or nasty … I always made my intentions plain … I never lied to any of you or lied about any of you …

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 3:22 am

@Gabor

should be easy to scroll by?

Surely boredom and death are not a proximal threat.. ? Or at least I would hope not ?

Mark Bolton
November 20, 2023 3:33 am

@ Gabor ..

I only relied to you … if this conversation bores you ? It wouldnt have happened if you hadn’t started it ….

calli
calli
November 20, 2023 3:49 am

I believe Hamas have a claim to justice.

Just not the sort of “justice” they might like to receive. And I’m also heartened that those living high on the hog outside their degenerate meat kingdoms will have to look over their shoulders for the rest of their lives.

And you can take that to the bank.

Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:00 am

Haha. Johannes Leak.

Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
November 20, 2023 4:09 am
calli
calli
November 20, 2023 4:37 am

Heh. Piccolo Luigi the Handsome is outgrowing his Yes shirt. Or…is it shrinking?

My money is on the latter.

I can’t see him becoming a political giant. 😀

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 20, 2023 4:41 am

Hun:

A Jewish man has been assaulted outside a Bentleigh East synagogue in what police are treating as a “racially motivated” incident.

The Herald Sun can reveal a man, aged in his 70s, was assaulted while walking into the Chabad on Cecil St about 10.40am on Saturday, November 18.

The victim’s son Anton took to social media to express his concerns about the incident, saying his father was “brutally attacked”.

“My father had parked his car and was walking towards the East Bentleigh Chabad House (synagogue) when the assailant parked behind him,” he wrote on Facebook.

Anton said the attacker then examined his father’s car, where he noticed Jewish calendars with Hebrew writing.

“This observation seemed to trigger his next actions.

“He returned to his vehicle, retrieved a syringe (weapon), and purposefully attacked my father with it.

“This wasn’t a random act of violence. The assailant’s decision to attack after seeing Jewish symbols makes it clear that this was an anti-semitic, racially motivated crime.”

Anton said the community needed to be aware of the incident to take appropriate precautions.

“I urge the police and Community Security Group (CSG) Victoria to consider these details in their investigation and communication. It is vital for the safety and awareness of our community,” he added.

A Victoria Police spokesman said an occupant exited the car and assaulted the man.

“The victim was not physically injured,” the spokesman said.

The vehicle, believed to be a light coloured Holden Commodore sedan, left towards Mackie Rd.

The spokesman said the exact circumstances surrounding the assault were under investigation, but police were treating this as a racially motivated incident.

Beertruk
Beertruk
November 20, 2023 4:53 am

Cummins Woke Idiots 4/241 (42 balls left) d India Call Centre all out for 240.
Travis Head man of the match with 137.
Player of the tournament Virat Kohli (India).

calli
calli
November 20, 2023 5:28 am

All I have for news, apart from this site, is the BEEB.

Tonight, I’m being told that the premmie babies were being bathed in dirty water. By a “doctor” in a well-lit hospital. Apart from the obvious deception, how about….boiling the water first? You know. Like I had to do in PNG.

They’ve also had a couple of smooth faced junior j’lists on Sunday rotation. One of them drew the short straw – an interview with Mark Regev. This guy takes no prisoners, but does it succinctly and factually. A joy to watch. Sorry I can’t link.

They also had some teatowel from Qatar, whining about “peace”. The drip must have got wind of Israel’s long term intent with the architects of the massacre living like sultans in his neighbourhood.

And finally, and keeping with the headgear theme, a strikingly khol-ed hijabi yapper also whining…with a remarkable rider. Of course it would be helpful if the hostages are returned, amongst a number of other baby steps. Sorry Fatima, that is the only reason the IDF have spared Gaza. The hope that your evil co-religionists have spared their lives.

Beertruk
Beertruk
November 20, 2023 5:32 am

Tim Blair on point as always in today’s Tele:

KIDS HAVE BIN READIN’ AND LOVIN’ BIN LADEN

TIM BLAIR
Mon 20 Nov 2023

Certain responses to the shocking October 7 attacks on Israel weren’t shocking at all.
The swarm of Islamic cheerleaders chanting “gas the Jews” outside the Sydney Opera House, for example, was easily anticipated.
After all, Sydney’s extremist Sunni Muslim subset supplied more volunteers (and therefore more corpses) to ISIS’s demented cause a decade ago than just about anywhere outside of Syria, in per capita terms.
So it stands to reason that our same vibrant multicultural community would be up for a celebration following news last month that their Palestinian allies had burned, stabbed, sexually tortured, murdered and kidnapped so many innocent civilian Jews.
Equally unsurprising was the response of elite Western leftists, who’ve been screaming for decades about Nazis, dictators and tyrants in our midst – mainly conservatives and conservative voters.
Yet the same crew became noticeably calmer and more conciliatory when confronted with actual blood-drenched evidence of genuine Nazi-level atrocities.
They’re funny like that. Put the likes of Tony Abbott or Donald Trump in front of lefty sophisticates and they see nothing but evil.
When Hamas madmen violate and butcher Jewish girls, children and babies, however, our leftist pals reflexively resort to gutless equanimity: “Well, let’s not rush to judgment. There’s two sides to every story.”
All of that is sadly routine, of course, in our corroded, death-spiral culture. But last week brought something alarmingly new. An undeniably peculiar revelation.
A significant wedge of the TikTok generation – 20-something onliners who know a lot about photo filters but not quite so much about anything else – is now hot for Osama bin Laden.
Seriously.
It seems some TikTokky types happened upon the dead terrorist’s 2002 Letter to America – an attempted justification for his gang’s 9/11 annihilation of 3000 people in 2001 – and liked what they saw.
TikTok then lit up with bin Laden admiration. Some examples:
“I will never look at life the same, I will never look at [the US] the same.”
“Eye-opening.”
“Explains so much.”
“In the last 20 minutes, my entire viewpoint of the entire life I have believed and lived has changed.”
“He was right.”
“It ALL makes sense now.”
“I need everyone to stop what they’re doing right now and go read – it’s literally two pages – go read A Letter to America.”
One page too long for our Prime Minister, then.
It’s easy to see why, in a shallow way, these youngsters find bin Laden so compelling. On some levels, his letter is a first-year arts student’s simple whinge-list of Bad Things Done by White Folk and their Awful Climate-Hurty Capitalism.
It even features teen-friendly punctuation. Bin Laden, in the over- emphatic manner of a girly TikTokker, notably favours multiple exclamation marks.
More crucially, he goes on and on about occupation, colonisation and Western aggression – themes that have become increasingly prominent in leftist-dominated Western education and media.
Bin Laden’s main message, to which onliners respond so keenly, is that Palestine has been occupied by Israel “for more than 50 years; years overflowing with oppression, tyranny, crimes, killing, expulsion, destruction and devastation”.
“The creation and continuation of Israel is one of the greatest crimes,” bin Laden continued, his words echoed in deed by October 7’s killers and those “gas the Jews” goons at the Opera House. “The creation of Israel is a crime which must be erased.”
Ol’ Binny wasn’t exactly a two-state solution kinda guy; not in the Middle East and not anywhere else.
As his letter makes clear, bin Laden’s preferred vision was of a global “Nation of Martyrdom; the Nation that desires death more than you desire life”. That might be a hard sell even to the TikTok kids, although they do very much insist on the greatness of bin Laden’s entire letter.
Presumably, then, they’re OK with the bits condemning “fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling, and trading with interest”.
And there’s also bin Laden’s demand for “complete submission” to Islam.
Go for it, TikTokkers. You know “it ALL makes sense”. And imagine how much time and worry you’ll save on photo filters once you’re safely bagged up inside those hijabs.
Further online learning awaits.
My US friend David Burge advises some mid-20th century research for our late-developing history buffs: “If you kids think bin Laden made some good points, wait ’til I tell you about a vegetarian former art student with an ironic moustache whose impassioned manifesto about the Zionist oppression of his people sparked a worldwide movement.”
They may fall for it. Poor babies.

calli
calli
November 20, 2023 5:33 am

Saw that, rosie. Naturally BBC says they can’t independently verify the footage.

I say send them down first. Anything else is a waste of explosives dergs and robots.

Verify away losers.

Beertruk
Beertruk
November 20, 2023 5:42 am

I can’t see him becoming a political giant.

More a ‘mental midget.’

Petros
Petros
November 20, 2023 5:42 am

Airbus Albo is very busy going to all those job interviews overseas.

Beertruk
Beertruk
November 20, 2023 5:50 am

calli
Nov 20, 2023 5:33 AM
Saw that, rosie. Naturally BBC says they can’t independently verify the footage.

I say send them down first. Anything else is a waste of explosives dergs and robots.

Verify away losers.

Be an excellent job for Monty and the Wong Chap.

Beertruk
Beertruk
November 20, 2023 6:02 am

Here you go Zulu 😉

BIG PRICE FOR A WEE DRAM

LONDON:

A bottle of The Macallan 1926, described by Sotheby’s auction house as the “most valuable whisky in the world”, has been sold for a record £2.1 million (A$4m).
The sale set a new record for any bottle of spirit or wine sold at auction.
One of the Macallan 1926 bottles had the previous record for the most expensive bottle ever sold, when it fetched £1.5m in 2019.
“I tasted a tiny drop — a tiny drop — of this. It’s very rich, it’s got a lot of dried fruit as you would expect, a lot of spice, a lot of wood,” Sotheby’s head of whisky Jonny Fowle said.
The bottles are among only 40 that Macallan, based in Moray, northern Scotland, has confirmed were bottled from Cask 263 in 1986 after spending 60 years in dark European oak, which was reflected in the colour.

John H.
John H.
November 20, 2023 6:03 am

With antisemitic tweet, Elon Musk reveals his ‘actual truth’

CYMI: Musk was responding to a post Wednesday that said Jewish communities “have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.” The post also referenced “hordes of minorities” flooding Western countries, a popular antisemitic conspiracy theory.

It’s the kind of post you can find easily on X these days, and likely would have gone unnoticed had Musk, with more than 160 million followers, not re-shared the post with the comment: “You have said the actual truth.”

Zatara
Zatara
November 20, 2023 6:06 am

Fake Hate: Police File Charges Against Ohio Man Who Allegedly Faked Anti-Palestinian Hate Crime

An Ohio man and his brother are facing criminal charges after one of the brothers allegedly made up a story about being a victim of an anti-Palestinian hate crime.

“A release from the department insists Ayyad not only wasn’t struck by a vehicle nor subjected to racial slurs, but that he was actually injured during an earlier fight with his brother…”

John H.
John H.
November 20, 2023 6:09 am

Mark Bolton
Nov 20, 2023 2:44 AM
@Gabor

I could see why and how Monty had such fun with you folks. It was horrific. He would post something then for pages and pages you all went into an orgasm of repudiation and and self reverential froth … as if you could both bore each other into a form of mutual annihilation …

I guess He had one two many do nuts…

I don’t know why Monty does it so often. He probably enjoys it and I get that. What I don’t understand is why they keep responding to him. It’s not like there are any lefties here so the argument that he must be countered so as to not deceive others is rubbish.

I pulled the same stunt a few times and it is funny to watch them go ballistic.

calli
calli
November 20, 2023 6:23 am

*I pulled the same stunt a few times and it is funny to watch them go ballistic.*

Do you mean…challenge you?

Why would you be surprised?

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 6:34 am

I am a company in myself. My repertoire has become a bible for all mimes in the world.

– Marcel Marceau

bespoke
bespoke
November 20, 2023 6:36 am

I pulled the same stunt a few times and it is funny to watch them go ballistic.

Then don’t play the victom, John.

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 6:41 am

Petros
Nov 20, 2023 5:42 AM
Airbus Albo is very busy going to all those job interviews overseas.

He has never had a proper job in his sad life.

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 6:43 am

Many thanks once again Tom. Some good toons there.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 20, 2023 6:49 am

Looking at a few news websites this morning about the PRC/RAN incident.
I can’t see a map of where this actually took place.
I’ve read it was “off the coast of Japan”, from all of the reporting but that’s it.
Not looking for co-ordinates, just an indication of where it was.

If any Cat’s come across a map, can they please post it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 20, 2023 7:02 am

rosie

Nov 20, 2023 4:41 AM

OPERATIONAL UPDATE: IDF and ISA forces revealed a significant 55-meter-long terrorist tunnel, 10 meters underneath the Shifa Hospital complex during an intelligence-based operation.

Wine cellar.

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 7:02 am

feelthebern
Nov 20, 2023 6:49 AM
Looking at a few news websites this morning about the PRC/RAN incident.
I can’t see a map of where this actually took place.
I’ve read it was “off the coast of Japan”, from all of the reporting but that’s it.
Not looking for co-ordinates, just an indication of where it was.

If any Cat’s come across a map, can they please post it.

Try the BBC –

https://www.bbc.com/news/67461081

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 7:08 am

I’d like to live as a poor man with lots of money.

– Pablo Picasso

John H.
John H.
November 20, 2023 7:10 am

calli
Nov 20, 2023 6:23 AM
*I pulled the same stunt a few times and it is funny to watch them go ballistic.*

Do you mean…challenge you?

Why would you be surprised?

I’m not surprised, the behavior is predictable. Some people are easily triggered. It is not about being challenged, it is the abuse they hurl about. They get kicks out of it. That’s interesting.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 20, 2023 7:10 am

The reported incident occurred on Tuesday in Japan’s Exclusive Economic Zone. HMAS Toowoomba was conducting operations in support of UN sanctions enforcement, Mr Marles said, without giving details.

No map.
Could have been anywhere in the zone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone_of_Japan

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 20, 2023 7:12 am

Try the BBC –

As a last resort.
Kipper-munching soap-dodging liars.

John H.
John H.
November 20, 2023 7:13 am

bespoke
Nov 20, 2023 6:36 AM
I pulled the same stunt a few times and it is funny to watch them go ballistic.

Then don’t play the victim, John.

I don’t. Last time I did it I kept egging then on and they kept coming. Same as with Monty’s game, can’t help themselves, can’t stop engaging in abuse. That’s entertainment.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 7:13 am

Uh oh.

Hijack horror as Israeli cargo ship stormed by ‘Iran-backed militia’ in Red Sea (19 Nov)

Armed hijackers have reportedly stormed an Israeli-flagged cargo vessel in the Red Sea and taken the crew hostage.

Members of the Yemeni-based Houthi rebel group are understood to have taken control of the Galaxy Leader ship with 22 sailors on board.

Israeli authorities confirmed the Galaxy Leader had been seized but it is thought that there are no nationals from the country on board.

THe IDF do have a couple of naval ships in the area, which have been shooting down Houthi missiles. And the US has quite a lot in the area too. It could get quite messy for the Houthi hijackers, I doubt the Israelis in particular will be disposed towards niceness.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2023 7:14 am

The hamas apologists; calling them POWs, saying one lot of footage had nothing to do with the other (two different hostages!) pretending dragging an uninjured person into a hospital while armed with a meat cleaver is perfectly normal.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2023 7:18 am

You don’t know who reads this forum, neither do I.
I don’t have a problem with people disputing claims, whether it’s al shifa isn’t a terrorist nest or breastfeeding in public is the same as defecation in public.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2023 7:19 am

M.R Truth
@ABearWasBehind
·
37m
Excuse me, where are the armed

This moron at least has now deleted his post.

bespoke
bespoke
November 20, 2023 7:20 am

You get treated well John even when you’re implying it’s OK to root a dog if it wags its tail.

Stimp was a shit stirrer but rarely if ever sooked when copt it back.

Frank
Frank
November 20, 2023 7:23 am

Be an excellent job for Monty and the Wong Chap.

Monty would be better put to use in lieu of that explosive expanding foam, the stuff that blocks the tunnels up. A run up and swan dive is all that is required.

Pat Mac
Pat Mac
November 20, 2023 7:30 am

Johannes Leak, brilliant, thx Tom.
That cartoon should be splashed high, wide and everywhere on liar’s msm rags.
Front page.
Might knock some of the bluff and bluster out of the little turd.
Turdball still the big turd.
IMHO

bespoke
bespoke
November 20, 2023 7:48 am

I don’t.

Bolton/bird certainly is and by identifying with him enables it.

Last time I did it I kept egging then on and they kept coming.

Inviting others to poke fun at one’s food/hobbies can be cathartic.
Preempting people for the purpose of creating villains from the unsuspecting Is a dog act. Especially in a forum such as this. Low energy stuff.

Marc
Marc
November 20, 2023 7:48 am
Crossie
Crossie
November 20, 2023 7:49 am

Rosalynn Carter dies yet Jimmy is still with us. It seems US Democrat ex-presidents are indestructible and will outlive us all.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 7:50 am

Haha, and she’s an Aussie too.

18 Reasons Why You Really Need An Electric Car (20 Nov)

International readers will wonder what a Teal is.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 20, 2023 7:57 am

Crossie

Nov 20, 2023 7:49 AM

Rosalynn Carter dies …

The vaccine?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2023 8:01 am

Dover

Re 1, the Jordanians accepted over a million.

And turfed a lot out in the Black September events of the 1970s. Again, the Palestinians never lost an opportunity to lose an opportunity. (Jordan is the nearest thing to a Palestinian state ever likely to exist, and they shat in the nest.)

Crossie
Crossie
November 20, 2023 8:02 am

Marc
Nov 20, 2023 7:48 AM
Just in time for Christmas…

https://www.connorcourtpublishing.com.au/A-GUIDE-TO-CLIMBING-MOUNT-WARNING–Marc-Hendrickx_p_564.html

Anyone with certain bush walks on their bucket list should do them as soon as possible. I can see our rulers closing them all as revenge for the No to Voice.

Come to think of it, in the even of the Yes to Voice they would have planned to close them anyway as a thank you to their voters.

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2023 8:11 am

Study finds women with depression have 20% lower taurine concentration in the hippocampus

The highest sources of taurine are meat, dairy and fish. There must be a lot of very depressed vegans.

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2023 8:14 am
rosie
rosie
November 20, 2023 8:14 am

Noa Marciano was murdered inside the hospital.

Hagari said that Marciano had been wounded at some point, but that a pathology report said she was later dealt deadly blows by Hamas in the hospital.

Jerusalem post expands, the vehicle was apparently a captured IDF vehicle which narrows the field.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 20, 2023 8:14 am

Mine’s a latte, one sugar, thanks.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 20, 2023 8:15 am

Hagari said that Marciano had been wounded at some point, but that a pathology report said she was later dealt deadly blows by Hamas in the hospital.

Could of been an accidental fall.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 8:16 am

Hospitals are for executing Israelis in.

IDF soldier taken hostage was murdered in Gaza, Israel confirms (19 Nov)

IDF R.-Adm. Daniel Hagari revealed on Sunday that intelligence has shown that Israeli hostage, Noa Marciano, was murdered in Shifa.

This is in contrast to Hamas’s narrative that she was killed by Israeli airstrikes on Gaza.

Hagari said that Marciano had been wounded at some point, but that a pathology report said she was later dealt deadly blows by Hamas in the hospital.

She was kidnapped by Hamas from the IDF base at Kibbutz Nahal Oz when it was stormed by terrorists during the October 7 massacre.

Murdering PoWs is a war crime. I wonder if the lefty MSM will report this story?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 8:17 am

Snap Rosie!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 20, 2023 8:19 am

taurine concentration in the hippocampus

Look, I appreciate the point being raised – but I think there are more important things going on in the world right now than events in wildlife universities.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 20, 2023 8:20 am

she was later dealt deadly blows by Hamas in the hospital

Propaganda!

There you go Bolton. Analyse that.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2023 8:20 am

It’s hard to sympathise with grievances about land dispossession that relate to events that occurred in the 1930 and 40s.
Such events were not unique to the Palestinian Mandate, they occurred thousands of times in all parts of the world including to nearly a million Jews forced out of North Africa and the Middle East.
Now four five six seven generations later with numerous descendants is there some sort of deep spiritual relationship to that land amongst likely hundreds of those descendants that justifies butchery?
Just no.

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2023 8:22 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 8:27 am

Ha ha

EU calls on China to stop building coal plants and contribute to a climate fund for poor nations

They’re also eating each other now.

“Reduce Your Emissions Within Two Months Or Face The Consequences”, Brussels Tells 12 Member States (20 Nov)

The EU executive sent a letter of formal notice to Luxembourg, Poland, and Romania, and a reasoned opinion to Bulgaria, Ireland, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Austria, Portugal, and Sweden for failing to ensure the correct implementation of their commitments to reduce several air pollutants as required by Directive (EU) 2016/2284 on the national emission reductions of certain air pollutants (“NEC Directive”).

I can’t see Hungary complying, although Poland has just been taken over by the Left, so they might. I wonder if this silly stuff will be the catalyst for a break up of the EU?

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2023 8:27 am
rosie
rosie
November 20, 2023 8:28 am

The cope and seethe on the IDF post showing the hostages being taken into Shifa is a wonder to behold.
World championship vying for dumbest take by western progressives (human rights lawyer!) and various islamics desperately looking for evidence of fakers.
The time on the wall clock is different!. The timestamps on the two different CCTV cameras are not the same!
If it were idf they would have just killed the hostages, hamas are so good and kind taking injured people to hospital!

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 20, 2023 8:28 am

Big Serge’s latest Ukraine war analysis is up.

https://open.substack.com/pub/bigserge/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-reckoning?r=yhwki&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

He sees only accelerating degradation of the Uke forces via relentless attrition, exhaustion of NATO munitions stocks and the willpower to send them, and – now – a pivot to supporting Israel. He says the Ukes ‘summer offensive’ has failed to achieve anything, and given the above, sees nothing ahead for Ukraine but defeat.

The picture is not overly complicated. Ukrainian combat power is in a decline which has little chance of arrest, particularly now that events in the Middle East mean that it no longer has an uncontested claim to western stocks

m0nty
November 20, 2023 8:28 am

Pat Cummins leads his Woke Mind Virus team to yet another glorious victory, this time against the fascists of India.

Cats about as silent on the topic as the Ahmedabad crowd, LOL.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2023 8:31 am

Good to see you caring about the big moral issues Montyshifa.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 20, 2023 8:34 am

Obviously, winning talent means they are oracles on every matter, Rosie. But that doesn’t work for us lot. Obviously.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2023 8:35 am

rosie
Nov 20, 2023 8:20 AM
It’s hard to sympathise with grievances about land dispossession that relate to events that occurred in the 1930 and 40s.
Such events were not unique to the Palestinian Mandate, they occurred thousands of times in all parts of the world including to nearly a million Jews forced out of North Africa and the Middle East.
Now four five six seven generations later with numerous descendants is there some sort of deep spiritual relationship to that land amongst likely hundreds of those descendants that justifies butchery?

I wonder how many of those screeching about “dispossession” and “settler societies” would support Germans seeking to return to the lands in (former) East Prussia and Kaliningrad (former Konigsberg) that had been German for a millenium, until the Germans were dispossessed in 1945 (with hundreds of thousands dying in the process) and replaced by a Russian “settler society”?

After a few decades, it is time to let the past bury its dead, and look to the future.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 20, 2023 8:37 am

The Aussies won the Cricket World Cup in fine style.
Captain Cummins got the ball rolling with a clever decision to bowl first and personally bowled very well. Warner didn’t score many runs but was on fire in the field. Smith was LBW to a ball he should have reviewed.
Travis Head scored a match-winning 137.
Well done Australia in beating the unbackable favourites in front of their raucous home crowd.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2023 8:39 am

m0nty
Nov 20, 2023 8:28 AM
Pat Cummins leads his Woke Mind Virus team to yet another glorious victory, this time against the fascists of India.

Cats about as silent on the topic as the Ahmedabad crowd, LOL.

But not as silent as you have been on the resurgence of fascism in the world, led by (as is only to be expected) the political left.

Nothing to say on rape, murder, defilation and barbarism comitted by leftism’s pets, the pigs of Hamarse?

PS, scan back, the crikit was covered earlier. Dope.

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 8:40 am

m0nty
Nov 20, 2023 8:28 AM

Just to point out how stuffed this world is right now.

A player named Mohamed Elyounoussi has scored a goal for Norway in the football match against Scotland.

How is he a Viking?

Over to you MontyPox Virus and your weird other world.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 20, 2023 8:41 am

Germans seeking to return to the lands in (former) East Prussia and Kaliningrad (former Konigsberg) that had been German for a millenium, until the Germans were dispossessed in 1945 (with hundreds of thousands dying in the process) and replaced by a Russian “settler society”?

An excellent example of human nature at work. Force of conquest has been a thing since humans got onto their hind legs.

No, wishing will not make it go away. No, we have not evolved to be ‘better people’, nor do we need to.

This example also parallels the current ME state of affairs, known colloquially as ‘buy the ticket, go on the ride’.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 20, 2023 8:46 am

Heh. Piccolo Luigi the Handsome is outgrowing his Yes shirt. Or…is it shrinking?

Nah the “voice” bit has been torn off the top of the shirt leaving treaty and truth to go.

m0nty
November 20, 2023 8:46 am

A player named Mohamed Elyounoussi has scored a goal for Norway in the football match against Scotland.

How is he a Viking?

Yeah right, and Marnus Labuschagne is clearly a Frenchman.

I see your collective IQ has not improved.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 8:46 am

Big Serge’s latest Ukraine war analysis is up.

He say anything about the Ukies advancing from their bridgehead near Kherson? Say it ain’t so!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 20, 2023 8:49 am

My sympathies lie with the up-country villlages- there’s gonna be a bit of riots n fires in India, not all of them set by bust bookies.
I magine hosting a ODI world series as the unbackable favourites- and losing to a perfumed Australian test side.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 20, 2023 8:51 am

I see your collective IQ has not improved.

mUnter:

Please use your gigantic fantasy football IQ to explain how the state-sponsored cooking of infants in ovens while their mothers are raped in front of said ovens does not justify wiping that state from the planet.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2023 8:53 am

FatBoy still avoiding discussion on the (leftard-led) resurgence of fascism.

And what about all those TikTokers and their newfound lurve for OBL? Probably Economics 1 failures, perfect candidates for conversion to Islam.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 20, 2023 8:55 am

Smith was LBW to a ball he should have reviewed

My first thought was ‘nah, hit outside the line’. However, a) it was given and b) more importantly, the sooky cheat walked without a review. Well out of character.

Hopefully it’s now very close to, if not the actual end for McSnivel. He got five years’ grace he should never have had.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 8:57 am

Of course the problem for the Ukies is the West is rapidly losing interest.

Zelensky Claims Artillery Shell Deliveries to Ukraine Have Dwindled Amid Israel Conflict (19 Nov)

On the other hand the Russia officer corps doesn’t appear to’ve improved their tactics much, and even with reduced artillery ammunition it seems likely that the Russian Army will not be very successful in a winter offensive. Poot is offering a million rubles to get guys to sign up, which suggests they’re still having trouble getting enough replacements.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 20, 2023 9:02 am

FatBoy still avoiding discussion on the (leftard-led) resurgence of fascism.

Is it too early to start going “you lot” with monty and the tick tock turdlets?

cohenite
November 20, 2023 9:06 am

Indolent
Nov 20, 2023 8:01 AM
Catturd ™
@catturd2

These Feds aren’t fooling anyone. So obvious.

Outbreaks occurred in victoristan. This is serious shit. The fbi has been shown to have not just infiltrated many right wing groups but actually been those right wing groups plus a few pathetic guys living with their mums such as the Whitmer kidnap bullshit.

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 9:08 am

m0nty
Nov 20, 2023 8:46 AM

And Olivia Neutron Bomb and The Bee Gees were Australians? Not born here. Poms of course.

And as for IQ – you of gross ignorance.

Have a nice day in your weird world.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 20, 2023 9:10 am

Rosalynn Carter dies yet Jimmy is still with us. It seems US Democrat ex-presidents are indestructible and will outlive us all.

. Longevity will be commensurate with evil done to the Constitutional Republic that is the USA — therefore Satan in a Suit with the mellifluous voice will live forever.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 20, 2023 9:13 am

The cope and seethe on the IDF post showing the hostages being taken into Shifa is a wonder to behold.

What’s needed now, for a little frisson of trendoid excitement, is some for some junior Israeli government person to suggest there is a growing Mossad hit list of Hamas facilitators.

Bloody Hell, I’m hardly a player. They wouldn’t assassinate me over a Guardian opinion piece and a couple of spicy Tweets. Shirley?

Zatara
Zatara
November 20, 2023 9:14 am

These Feds aren’t fooling anyone.

And still nobody thinks to follow them back to their transport and take lots of pictures. That’s when masks come off. It’s also when we can figure out if they came via bus and track who hired the bus. If they came by private auto just follow them home.

Name, shame. Rinse and repeat.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 20, 2023 9:16 am

This is fine.

Beg Harder: Army Begging Soldiers Kicked Out Over Vax to Come Back

After demoting/dishonourable discharging and otherwise marking their files with a big red X they want to get those people back.

A lot of sex and travel advice coming up

Aaron
Aaron
November 20, 2023 9:17 am

Slimy Marles turns up on the podium.

Because it’s so vital.

Who is the PM today?

Perhaps they can lecture us about net zero.

Hopefully Marles can give us insights into Delhi Belly on his return.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 20, 2023 9:18 am

Police will use special powers to keep a lid on Palestinian car convoys in Sydney

Police will not hesitate to use emergency powers set up after the 2005 Cronulla riots to prevent car and motorbike convoys which cause a “climate of fear’’ in the wake of the Israel-Hamas war.

But they HAVE hesitated to do anything already!

Daily Tele

Aaron
Aaron
November 20, 2023 9:21 am

Benny Wong in India too.

Oh please let Tony Burka have a go.

Public holiday and 4 free Centrelink payments for everybody in Western Sydney.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 20, 2023 9:22 am

thefrollickingmole

Nov 20, 2023 8:46 AM

Heh. Piccolo Luigi the Handsome is outgrowing his Yes shirt. Or…is it shrinking?

Nah the “voice” bit has been torn off the top of the shirt leaving treaty and truth to go.

Top stuff.
When One-Page Luigi didn’t want to hear about Truth and Tweetie, Leak had him busily cutting those two words off his “Voice, Treaty, Truth” t-shirt, leaving him to campaign in a Voice crop-top.
Now the Voice crop top is in the bin and he has resurrected the discarded Truth and Treaty bit.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 20, 2023 9:22 am

Such events were not unique to the Palestinian Mandate.

History Matters’ timely reminder.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 20, 2023 9:22 am

The Indians saved their worst performance for the final – it’s sport, it happens.
A parochial crowd for sure but there’ll be thousands of young Indian lads watching Maxwell’s famous innings in the semi over and over again. They love cricket.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 9:24 am

Police will use special powers to keep a lid on Palestinian car convoys in Sydney

Be interesting to see what NSW plod does about the school students.

‘Not willing to sit silently’: Sydney students to strike for Palestine (Tele, paywalled)

NSW school students will walk out of class this week, joining their counterparts in Melbourne and Adelaide as they “demand an end to genocide” amid the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict.

Wagging school to support rapists and murderers is not a good look kids. Meanwhile the ABC has been sprung for indoctrinating them.

ABC refuses review into kids program after complaints (Paywallian)

Despite close to 100 letters from concerned parents and even some some children alleging hate speech, the ABC has denied a request to review its children’s news program Behind The News.

I don’t know exactly what BTN was saying, since I’m not a subscriber, but I can guess. Shut it down and salt the earth.

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 9:25 am

Tintarella di Luna
Nov 20, 2023 9:10 AM
Rosalynn Carter dies yet Jimmy is still with us. It seems US Democrat ex-presidents are indestructible and will outlive us all.

Eat more peanuts.

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 9:28 am

‘Not willing to sit silently’: Sydney students to strike for Palestine (Tele, paywalled)

How can they strike? They don’t have jobs.

Jorge
Jorge
November 20, 2023 9:37 am

A bit slow this morning, Monty. Game went until after 3 am.

Loudmouth yesterday holding forth on why Australia couldn’t win against Kohli as he put quite a bit on India. Just thanking my stars I didn’t do the same.

JC
JC
November 20, 2023 9:40 am

Look at woddenhead getting into another stoush . Stupid quotes, Marty flatulence and stoushing is all he does. Thanks dragnet!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 20, 2023 9:40 am

Dr Faustus

Nov 20, 2023 9:13 AM

The cope and seethe on the IDF post showing the hostages being taken into Shifa is a wonder to behold.

What’s needed now, for a little frisson of trendoid excitement, is some for some junior Israeli government person to suggest there is a growing Mossad hit list of Hamas facilitators.

Bloody Hell, I’m hardly a player. They wouldn’t assassinate me over a Guardian opinion piece and a couple of spicy Tweets. Shirley?

Indirect Paranoia Energy weapon.
Cheap but effective.

P
P
November 20, 2023 9:43 am

‘A battle inside us’: Hebrew Catholics in the Holy Land wrestle with challenges of war
CNA – By Marinella Bandini – Jerusalem, Nov 19, 2023

Among the many expressions of the Church in the Holy Land, the Hebrew-speaking Catholic community is the smallest. It comprises about a thousand Catholic faithful living in Israel, immersed in a Hebrew cultural and linguistic environment. But despite being a vibrant and diverse part of the Christian community, it remains relatively unknown even at the local level.
.

The day after the attack, Sunday, Oct. 8, the Hebrew-speaking Catholic community began the “Great Advent.”

This period spans from seven to 13 weeks before Christmas and commences the day after the celebration of Simchat Torah (Joy of the Torah), which this year fell on Saturday, Oct. 7, Zelazko explained. For Jews, this day marks the conclusion of the annual cycle of Torah reading and the beginning of a new one. Similarly, Advent inaugurates the new liturgical year for the Catholic Church.

“During the Great Advent, we add a reading to the Mass, drawn from the biblical passage read in synagogues that week (the Torah corresponds to our Pentateuch). It is a way to resonate with the same word and make evident the relationship with Judaism and the points of connection between Jews and Christians.”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 20, 2023 9:43 am

In Your Hardearned Spent Wisely news:

Four potential names for Australia’s first Moon rover announced by Space Agency, as public voting begins — as it happened

The Australian Space Agency has revealed four shortlisted names for the country’s first Moon rover, after receiving more than 8,000 submissions of ideas from a public competition to name it.

The four shortlisted names submitted by the public are: Coolamon, Kakirra, Mateship and Roo-ver.

Australians can now vote for their favourite name for the rover, which is set to be launched as part of a NASA mission in as early as 2026.

I’m distraught that my first two choices – ‘Moony McMoonface’ and ‘Handsome Boy 2.0’ – have been rejected. And they seem to have misspelled my third choice, ‘Rooter’.

Aaron
Aaron
November 20, 2023 9:43 am

Not willing to sit silently’: Sydney students to strike for Palestine (Tele, paywalled)

……………

Could kick in a few bucks. Hamarse always need human shields. Non binary and homo especially welcome.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2023 9:45 am

thefrollickingmole
Nov 20, 2023 9:02 AM
FatBoy still avoiding discussion on the (leftard-led) resurgence of fascism.

Is it too early to start going “you lot” with monty and the tick tock turdlets?

Nah, rub his nose in it.

m0nty
November 20, 2023 9:47 am

Have a nice day in your weird world.

Thanks, I shall!

Just watched the match mini. Not an Englishman to be seen in the final. Did they go home early?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 20, 2023 9:47 am

Farmer Gez

Nov 20, 2023 9:22 AM

The Indians saved their worst performance for the final – it’s sport, it happens.

As did Captain McSniffy and the Cheating Midget Houso Ranga.
Which is the main thing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 20, 2023 9:48 am

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/11/good-on-you-darling-were-on-your-side.html

Chess Grand master will lose two titles for refusing to play in Saudi Arabia.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 20, 2023 9:49 am
m0nty
November 20, 2023 9:49 am

Please use your gigantic fantasy football IQ to explain how the state-sponsored cooking of infants in ovens while their mothers are raped in front of said ovens does not justify wiping that state from the planet.

There is never any justification for genocide.

Never.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2023 9:52 am

There is never any justification for genocide.

Never.

And yet FatBoy supports the pigs of Hamarse, whose Charter calls for genocide. The events of 7 October were just a taste of what Hamarse wants.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 9:55 am

Piled higher and deeper.

Palestinian Authority claims Israel, not Hamas, committed Re’im massacre (19 Nov)

The Palestinian Authority’s Finance Ministry put out a statement on Sunday, denying terror group Hamas was responsible for at least 350 partygoers slain at the Re’im music festival massacre.

The statement says that “preliminary Israeli police investigations” showed that Israeli claims in the media were false, followed up by saying that this was then used by “the occupation to justify its aggression against Gaza.”

Prime Minister Netanyahu responded later that day, “Today, the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah said something utterly preposterous. It denied that it was Hamas that carried out the horrible massacre at the nature festival near Gaza. It accused Israel of carrying out that massacre. This is a complete reversal of the truth.”

Well at least it means they’re a tad sensitive about how bad the look was, but to produce such huge steaming pile of bullshit with a straight face really takes the cake.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 9:59 am

Nice to see monty is supporting the just war of Israel against the genocidal Hamas terrorists.

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 10:02 am

Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. Now is the time to understand more, so that we may fear less.

– Marie Curie

Johnny Rotten
November 20, 2023 10:05 am

I try to avoid looking forward or backward, and try to keep looking upward.

– Charlotte Bronte

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 20, 2023 10:06 am

There is never any justification for genocide.

Never.

Monty on about the Prussians again?
Or the Armenians?
Or the Don Cossacks?

Arky
November 20, 2023 10:06 am

Russia and Ukraine have rooted themselves for years to come with this stupid war. Neither have the 20 to 30 year old males required to continue this insanity:
..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#/media/File:Russia_Population_Pyramid.svg
..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ukraine#/media/File:Ukraine_2023_population_pyramid.svg
..
The “winner” will be the side which has slightly less than the other crippled themselves for a generation to come.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 20, 2023 10:09 am

Truth, lies and the long road to exposing an Australian ‘hero’
Karl Quinn
By Karl Quinn
November 20, 2023 — 5.30am

Seven years after Chris Masters first heard the whispers about what Victoria Cross winner Ben Roberts-Smith did in Afghanistan, he’s not sure what he’d do if he heard them again.

“I’d probably ring Nick McKenzie and say, ‘I’ve got a good story for you, mate. I’m gonna go kayaking’,” the 75-year-old veteran says with a small and hard-won laugh.

The collaboration between the two journalists led to a series of explosive stories about Afghan prisoners of war being executed in cold blood by SAS corporal Roberts-Smith or by soldiers under his command.

In the Fairfax (later Nine) outlets, on 60 Minutes, and ultimately in the Federal Court in Sydney, where Roberts-Smith sued for defamation, the story dragged out for years, at enormous personal and financial cost for everyone involved.

Now, with judge Anthony Besanko having dismissed Roberts-Smith’s case in June – at an estimated cost to the former soldier and his backers, including Seven supremo Kerry Stokes, of $25 million – the story behind the story is being told in Truth on Trial, a documentary for Nine-owned Stan. (Nine is the owner of this masthead.)

It marks an endpoint of sorts, with the case wrapped and Roberts-Smith found to be “complicit in and responsible for the murder” of three Afghan men, and “not a reliable witness”. But it’s not a definitive full-stop: Roberts-Smith has appealed the ruling, and that case will be heard in February. There is also still the possibility he could face criminal charges over the alleged killings (which have so far been proved to a civil standard only).

The case and its reporting have drawn praise and opprobrium for the journalists.

“There were many moments when I wished we’d never done it,” says McKenzie.

“When you’re staring down the loss of your career, your reputation, and what would be a massive blow to your witnesses and whistleblowers and to those grieving families [if you lost], you’d be mad not to rethink your actions.

“What guided us always was that we knew we were right. We knew it was the truth. But what we didn’t know was whether the truth would win, because there’s always other factors that come into play.”

Investigative journalism always starts with an irresistible tug towards a story that someone doesn’t want to be told. And for Masters, this was just such a tale – even if he rather wished it wasn’t.

He first sat down with the intimidating Roberts-Smith, who stands 202 centimetres tall and comes from a prominent Perth family, to raise the accusations.

“A big part of me hoped he would come up with a sensible explanation for why his view of what occurred in Afghanistan, and the views of some of his fellow soldiers, were so disparate,” he says. “But he didn’t. He arced up, got really angry, and I walked away from it thinking, ‘Well, he’s got something to hide’.”

In their reporting, Masters and McKenzie were always at pains to make it clear that Roberts-Smith and his cohort were the exceptions, not the norm. The real heroes, they felt, were the soldiers who risked everything to speak out against the rogues.

Reporting it was tough, says Masters. “There’s so much about what Nick and I do that can damage your psyche, because we’re looking down the gutter all the time, we’re seeing the worst of humankind.”

But having to prove it to be true in a court was so much harder.

“It was exhausting, stress-invoking, anxiety-producing for everybody involved, but most significantly for our witnesses,” says McKenzie.

“Honestly, you wouldn’t wish litigation on your worst enemy.“

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 20, 2023 10:14 am

U235

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 20, 2023 10:20 am

Zatara Nov 20, 2023 9:14 AM

These Feds aren’t fooling anyone.

And still nobody thinks to follow them back to their transport and take lots of pictures. That’s when masks come off.

That was tried earlier this year after the chino-clad young & buffed Patriot Front made a sudden appearance in Washington DC.
The masked marchers all went down the escalator into the DC metro rail system, cops, lotsa cops, blocked anybody from following.

This video, from 00.26 seconds until 01.26 seconds, shows the entry & the phalanx of police who blocked the escalator immediately afterward.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 10:22 am

Not allowed to mine asteroids.

Bernie Sanders wants to bring socialism to space (18 Nov, via Instapundit)

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently sat down with Rolling Stone for a wide-ranging, rambling interview. The subject turned to Sanders’s least favorite person on the planet: space and electric car tycoon Elon Musk. Sanders made a strange accusation against the SpaceX CEO.

“It’s no secret Musk wants to develop Mars. And by the way, the kind of riches that he could benefit from mining, literally mining, meteors is a huge amount of money. Do you know that? No one is talking about it. Right now, Musk and Bezos literally have the legal right to take rare minerals off a meteor for their own personal gain — which, to me, is literally beyond comprehension,” Sanders said.

A lot of things are beyond comprehension of leftists, it has to be said. Like the difference between a meteor and an asteroid.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 20, 2023 10:32 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Nov 20, 2023 10:22 AM

Without the threat of “scarcity” the left has nothing.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 10:33 am

Chris Masters

Someone should ask him why the ADF is having so much trouble getting anyone, anyone at all, to join up.

On such topics:

Beg Harder: Army Begging Soldiers Kicked Out Over Vax to Come Back (19 Nov)

Oh, how much the times have changed!

The United States Army is now begging COVID unvaccinated soldiers, who underwent involuntary discharge for their refusal to take the vaccine, to return to service and also permits them to correct their military records!

Thousands were given career-destroying reprimands:

Lt. Col. Terry Kelley, a spokesman for the Army, said that 2,767 soldiers have received “general officer written reprimands” — killing their opportunities for promotions or transfers within the military — and that two battalion commanders as well as four other officers have been relieved of their duties but remain enlisted in the military.

The leadership, sadly, stayed silent. (pictured here is Lloyd Austin)

As a result, the military is missing its recruitment goals by 25%

All together now: Its A Mystery!

MatrixTransform
November 20, 2023 10:33 am

There is never any justification for genocide

NB – politicians and terrorist exempted

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 20, 2023 10:36 am

Sancho Panzer
Nov 20, 2023 7:57 AM

Crossie

Nov 20, 2023 7:49 AM

Rosalynn Carter dies …

The vaccine?

Nope. Finally she knows her husband isn’t the worst modern president in living memory.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 20, 2023 10:36 am

yeah, it’s a mystery

I think we living in an Idiocracy, except it isn’t funny.

Megan
Megan
November 20, 2023 10:36 am

DrFaustus @9.13.

What’s needed now, for a little frisson of trendoid excitement, is some for some junior Israeli government person to suggest there is a growing Mossad hit list of Hamas facilitators.

I made a remarkably similar comment to the SP yesterday. These empty-headed bumbling bandwaggoners have no idea of the real world and how dark and ugly things can get. Or how very quickly chaos descends.

Megan
Megan
November 20, 2023 10:37 am

Block quote fail. More coffee required.

Zatara
Zatara
November 20, 2023 10:38 am

That was tried

Then try it again. They sure as hell didn’t come by subway to Madison, Wisconsin.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 20, 2023 10:39 am

how very quickly chaos descends

The space between idyllic pleasantness and murderous chaos is a very thin line.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 20, 2023 10:40 am

He’s coming. Moday’s Paywallian flags (flogs?) Baz as WA Lieboral leader. Fat Cat elevated to Cabinet?

WA doesn’t have a great record with ex j’ismist types elevated to Premier. Brian Burke ring a bell?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 10:44 am

Dover – They moved to the Red Sea a couple weeks ago as I recall. The Houthis have been sending missiles and drones against Israel, and both the IDF ships and USN ones have been shooting them down.

IDF sends warships to Red Sea after aerial attacks from Yemen (JPost, 1 Nov)

Israeli missile boats were deployed in the Red Sea on Wednesday as reinforcements, the IDF said in a statement, following long-range missile and drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthis.

Images disseminated by the military appeared to show Saar-class Corvettes patrolling near Eilat Port in the Red Sea

I suspect the USN Arleigh Burkes are a lot more capable, but depending on the US right now is probably not a good idea given the internal politics within the Biden Administration.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 20, 2023 10:46 am

Zatara Nov 20, 2023 10:38 AM
Then try it again. They sure as hell didn’t come by subway to Madison, Wisconsin.

Zatara, IIRC, at some podunk appearance the same feds right wing nut jobs, all boarded enclosed vans & disappeared quicksmart. Same story, cops ensuring nobody followed. Wasn’t hard as photographers on footback are no match for Ford cargo vans.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 10:51 am
calli
calli
November 20, 2023 10:53 am

Midnight travelogue.

We are awoken at midnight. The aurora borealis is starting to light up. A quick struggle into thermals and parkas and it’s out to the aft deck.

Eyes become accustomed to the darkness, and I look across to the port side horizon. What I had processed as a long ridgeline with dawn breaking behind it was nothing of the sort. I am looking at the northern lights, a vast, coruscating ribbon stretched along the ocean’s length.

Every so often, a plume rises high into the night, the hidden sun catching some heavier density of material and shooting off a cascade of iridescence. Next, what look to be searchlights behind the ribbon arc up, throwing beams of growing brightness and collapsing back into themselves. To call such a phenomenon “beautiful” is an understatement. Sublime, ethereal, enthralling.

The cold becomes so intense I have to leave my position at the deck rail.

Another observation….I was the only person on the deck who had no camera. What is it with modern humanity that if they have no photo, it didn’t happen? I can easily buy a photo of the lights. What I can’t buy is the experience of standing quietly and experiencing them in all their glory.

Now it’s back to sleep.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 20, 2023 10:56 am

Musk and Bezos literally have the legal right to take rare minerals off a meteor for their own personal gain

Free the meteors! All meteors must be free!

Meteors that identify as asteroids too! If Pluto wants to be a planet let it!

Zippster
Zippster
November 20, 2023 10:58 am

BREAKING: ‘Trump of Argentina’ Javier Milei who was interviewed by Tucker Carlson has just won the Argentine Presidential Election.

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1726382993340600499?s=20

good interview

shatterzzz
November 20, 2023 11:00 am

Age (75) has caught up with my swimming .. realised several weeks ago that 1km freestyle was getting beyond me but 1500mts breast stroke no problem .. Because I’ve no speed at bs I dropped out of the lanes swimming and into the general splash around area and so to avoid the congestion I’ve started my swimming between 5/6 in the morning (when the pool opens) .. it’s an ideal time for no-one-in-the-way swimming but, bloody hell! .. finished by 8, at the latest, makes the rest of the day .. looooooooooong! …

Pogria
Pogria
November 20, 2023 11:02 am

Oh Calli,
that sounds wonderful! Thanks for the updates of your travels.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 11:04 am

BREAKING: ‘Trump of Argentina’ Javier Milei who was interviewed by Tucker Carlson has just won the Argentine Presidential Election.

That’s good news! I was sure it would be stolen, since the various deep state players are really hostile towards anything Trumpitty Trumpish right now. Maybe they didn’t think Argentina is worth the effort though, since they have a fair bit on their plate right now.

Zatara
Zatara
November 20, 2023 11:05 am

Are they in the area or is the plan to bring them into the area?

– CTF-150, the multinational counter piracy task force is in the area.
– British SAS and SBS assets are in the area.
– India’s MARCOS have assets at sea.
– There are US SEAL and USMC Spec Ops assets afloat in the vicinity.
– Both the US and PRC have bases in Djibouti with special ops capabilities.

MatrixTransform
November 20, 2023 11:10 am

dammit!
bloke I used to work with crashed his jet in Port Phillip

clever engineer and a pretty nice bloke.

vale Steve

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 20, 2023 11:11 am

Graham ‘Polly’ Farmer or Sir Charles Court: Parties to fight over name for WA’s federal political battleground
Dan Jervis-Bardy
The West Australian
Mon, 20 November 2023 12:01AM
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Dan Jervis-Bardy

The sprawling region east of Perth is shaping as a new political battleground as the major parties push for the State’s 16th federal seat to be established in the area.

Labor wants the new seat named after football icon Graham “Polly” Farmer, while the Liberals want it to commemorate former Premier Sir Charles Court.

The West has obtained the parties’ submissions to the re-drawing of WA’s federal electoral boundaries — which includes creating a new seat at the next election.

Labor and the Liberals have identified the areas east and north-east of Perth as the best location for the new division.

But the two parties are proposing different boundaries for the seat to give themselves the best chance of snaring both it and the surrounding electorates.

Under Labor’s proposal, the new seat would swallow up huge swathes of Tania Lawrence’s seat of Hasluck and take in a handful of suburbs at the northern tip of Andrew Hastie’s Canning electorate.

Smaller parts of Burt and Swan would also be transferred to the new seat.
Liberals want the new seat to commemorate former Premier Sir Charles Court.

Labor wants Hasluck, a seat it won from the Liberals in 2022, shifted west to take in suburbs currently in the Perth electorate such as Eden Hill and Bassendean.

That would leave the new seat to cover the areas east of Darlington, all the way out to Chidlow and Wooroloo.

WA Labor acting state secretary Lauren Cayoun said its proposal would address rapid population growth in Perth’s north-eastern suburbs.

The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) took a similar approach when it created Burt in 2016 to deal with a population boom in the south-east, Ms Cayoun said.

Labor is officially calling for the seat to be named “Farmer” in recognition of the WA football legend and Indigenous icon — an idea first raised by Perth MP and former party secretary Patrick Gorman.

Graham “Polly” Farmer, who died in 2019, was named ruckman in the VFL/AFL Team of the Century and is considered one of the greatest footballers of all time.

“Farmer captained the AFL team Geelong, even before the 1967 referendum to count Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people as citizens. He has a freeway named in his honour, the Graham Farmer Freeway, and is a much-loved West Australian,” Labor wrote in its submission.

What is it, with the Labor Party, and the endless efforts to re – write Australian history?

shatterzzz
November 20, 2023 11:13 am

The butchery wasn’t justified but neither do I think its hard to sympathize with the grievances,

Bloody hell! .. it’s weak-worded efforts like this that inspire the towel-heads & their “muzzie good/Jew bad” adherents …. seems lotza “normal” folk have placed, the “we don’t negotiate with terrorists” popular theme of pre-BAT FLU dayz with the John Lennon, “Let’s give peace a chance” appeasement at any cost ideal ….. FFS!

Pogria
Pogria
November 20, 2023 11:14 am

Rosmarin has resigned from Optus. Boo Yaah!

I wonder how much pressure was brought to bear to have her fall on her tiny sword.
The magazine spread may not go ahead now. haha, we can hope.

Zatara
Zatara
November 20, 2023 11:15 am

But if they were ‘in the area’ surely the ship wouldn’t have been boarded

Because having cops in town prevents all crime?

m0nty
November 20, 2023 11:16 am

The butchery wasn’t justified but neither do I think its hard to sympathize with the grievances, like those of the 30s and 40s. I certainly didn’t credit this when I was younger but the older I’ve gotten the easier it is to sympathize with the strength of attachments to place. Further, the grievances aren’t limited to the 30s or 40s, but involve the entire period to the present. Many of those in the population will have lost close relations over the last 70 years or so. It is very easy for us to understate the difficulty here for the obvious reasons (and this is the case on both sides).

Well said, db.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 20, 2023 11:16 am

Between Kerry Stokes, Gina and Twiggy, WA will just be divided up in an underground lair near Eagle Bay and its citizens reduced to hi-viz wearing FIFO serfs.

shatterzzz
November 20, 2023 11:17 am

I wonder how much pressure was brought to bear to have her fall on her tiny sword.

The “golden handshake” should ease any pain …….

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 20, 2023 11:17 am

Well said, db.

Oh dear.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 11:18 am

But if they were ‘in the area’ surely the ship wouldn’t have been boarded which is the point.

The Red Sea ain’t small Dover. I gather that the Israeli missile boats are up north, where they are in position to best intercept bogies from Yemen before they reach targets in southern Israel.

The USN has been in the south of the sea, but small fast boats aren’t easy to stop unless warships are actually escorting them, and so far there’s been no convoying or escort systems being implemented.

The main issue is the IDF ships are probably too small to have a marine complement, but if they have helipads it might be possible to air cav teams in. Which may lead to lots of energetic fun and dead Houthi kiddies, if the IDF are at their usual level.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2023 11:21 am

I don’t find it easy to empathise Dover.
I see the hundreds of thousands of Jews arriving in Israel empty handed, from Europe, from North Africe from the ME making a fresh start and looking forward to making a better life, and leaving unspeakable horror behind.
The Palestinians, most of whom were not indigenous to the region just nurse grievances, there are only so many orange groves in Jaffa.
I think what we see in reflective of ever festering muslim ideology that cannot abide anyone else having, well anything, really, but most of all the Jews, who should be perpetually cowed.
What a wretched society where women are effectively confined to breeding farms, where education is mostly hamas controlled indoctrination, where it’s almost impossible to better oneself, to get a job, to leave, to think for oneself.
It became clear to me that women only go out with brothers or fathers because alone, they are in real danger from muslim men, even fully draped.
That is their society.
Do you think if Palestinians were to show documents that they owned this or that piece of land and were given fair compensation, it would end?

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 20, 2023 11:23 am

Calli at 10.53.

Beautiful, atmospheric writing. Wish I could see it, but you’ve painted a wonderful word picture.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2023 11:23 am

I’m sure Henry Ergas made the point, that leading up to the second world war, the Germans had ‘legitimate grievances’.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2023 11:28 am

This stuff is amusing.

Wall Street Lines Up To Back Nikki Haley’s 2024 Bid (19 Nov)

Wall Street financiers are looking to Nikki Haley as the candidate to pull the 2024 Republican nomination away from former President Donald Trump, according to The Wall Street Journal.

The Murdochs decided that Haley would be their girl after DeSantis hit the skids and Youngkin wouldn’t run, and they’ve been puffing her up for weeks now. Which has done exactly nothing, since actual righty voters do not want an elite RNC establishment pick.

Which isn’t stopping the puffing. What was it, again, about doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome?

JC
JC
November 20, 2023 11:31 am

Dover , did you ever walk alongside the Hudson River?

Vicki
Vicki
November 20, 2023 11:34 am

The butchery wasn’t justified but neither do I think its hard to sympathize with the grievances,

Maybe consider the connotations and strength/weakness of words before they are placed forever in the world of ideas.

“the butchery wasn’t justified”………….just forget, for a moment, the second part of the statement & concentrate on those significant words.

I have lived, as many have on this blog, for quite a few years. I have struggled over those years to make sense of the world. I have embraced “left” causes in my muddled youth when I hadn’t sorted out the existence of “good” & “evil” in this world. I had settled on a world view which included a place for both, given the vast store of events in human history.

But 7/10 plumbed new depths for me. The significance of the barbarity (in “civilised” times) has triggered something of an existential crisis for me.

I have been a student of history all of my life, and studied both anthropology and modern and ancient (in particular) history. But I have been shaken by the nature of the events of 7/10. Yes – various communities have committed terrible things in so called “modern” times. But this – if you have become aware of the details and seen the photographs and other evidence of the atrocities – is something that reveals aspects of that socio-political dynamic in Islamic communities that many refuse to recognise.

This is all I will say.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 20, 2023 11:36 am

I wonder how much pressure was brought to bear to have her [Rosmarin]fall on her tiny sword.

Not insignificant I would think. Doesn’t really do much but helps with the optics. Can’t beat heads on sticks. Would be nice to see it in the SES from time to time. Now for the “It’s because she’s a woman” crew.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 20, 2023 11:44 am

Free the meteors! All meteors must be free!

Trapped and enslaved by Gravity for quite some time now. Gravity is imperialist, colonizing ogre.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 20, 2023 11:44 am

It would be useful if Optus sparks a wider debate about how much Australian essential services infrastructure is under foreign ownership. It doesn’t necessarily affect the way the underlying assets are managed but it is certainly a factor.

m0nty
November 20, 2023 11:45 am

I’m sure Henry Ergas made the point, that leading up to the second world war, the Germans had ‘legitimate grievances’.

You do not, in fact, “gotta hand it to the Nazis”.

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