Open Thread – Mon 4 Dec 2023

Pont Neuf, August Renoir, 1872

1,248 responses to “Open Thread – Mon 4 Dec 2023”

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  1. Gabor Avatar

    Tintarella di Luna
    Dec 5, 2023 4:02 PM

    “There go the people. I must follow them, for I am their leader.”

    I thought Jim Hacker said that?

  2. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Make that forty seconds.

    DrBeau that’s programmed thinking time.

  3. DrBeauGan Avatar

    DrB – You need a laptop or etc and use ‘open link in new tab’ for the links. Or ctl-click, same thing.

    That doesn’t help when it’s a refresh or if I post a comment.

  4. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    With so many terrible things happening in the world, this is not the time for half-ar$ed levity.

    But perhaps it is the time for a bit of a wry smile and maybe a chuckle.

    Oh, and Wolfman, if you’re watching, take a look at the editing of this piece. It’s superb!

  5. Bespoke Avatar

    No problems my end.

  6. Rockdoctor Avatar

    Wow no public order squad called eh? That 2 tiered policing system seems to raising it head everywhere…

  7. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Dec 5, 2023 6:26 PM

    Sky political editor Andrew Clennell is an Old Labor cheerleader, but he’s not as partisan as the Paywallian’s Troy “Mavis” Bramston.

    Clennell’s reporting on the Elbow regime’s stuff-ups has been excellent and deserves a gong.

    Don’t be too hasty praising Clennell’s new-found independence.
    More than likely he is running a line for Plibbers or Short’Un.

  8. WolfmanOz Avatar

    Bruce in WA
    Dec 5, 2023 9:34 PM

    Pretty good from a woke airline.

  9. miltonf Avatar

    Oh yes I forgot to add Xavier to Scotch and Geelong Grammar.

  10. Winston Smith Avatar


    Bruce, mole, Lee et al, some of the classic older games have been republished since with better rules and production values. You can check it all out at Board Game Geek.

    World at Wars “Stalingrad” is available with inbuilt DOS emulator. Unfortunately it hasn’t appeared with the ability to recreate different battles and scenarios apart from the standard half a dozen, which is a great pity. Also it starts at 19th November (Operation Uranus.) A 2 day warning to get the Panzer divisions out of the built up area of Stalingrad and into cover at the Chir/Don Rivers would have allowed 6th Army to maintain at least one railway line into the city.

  11. Min Avatar

    Why it’s it BPD and histrionic pop in my head when reading current court case ? Anyone care to comment like that Psych. On Sky

  12. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Leave aside the question of whether Higgins was raped by Lehrmann: Justice Michael Lee will answer that in due course when he hands down his decision on whether Network 10 was justified in reporting Higgins’ allegations.

    Err, no.
    Lee will decide whether one of two grounds exist to justify the publication of the allegations by Toad and Ten.
    That will not, by any stretch of the imagination, equate to a criminal guilty verdict.

  13. GreyRanga Avatar

    Saw Deb Conway in a pub on Scarborough Beach Rd. Near Innaloo. Hot hot hot. Man overboard, what a great song.

  14. Colonel Crispin Berka Avatar
    Colonel Crispin Berka

    All Queenslanders have been instructed by Channel Nein to be “on high alert” and very afraid of the “dangerous” cyclone Jasper.
    Well if you’re in Rockhampton or thereabouts perhaps a modicum of preparation for 160km/h winds would be prudent, but being on “high alert” is straining credulity.

  15. Real Deal Avatar
    Real Deal

    I won a Deborah Conway CD from the SMH once. Bitch Epic. The one where she is on the cover daubed in Nutella. “Today I am a daisy” was the single from it. I saw her once as a support for Joe Jackson at the State Theatre in 1991. She was a star support act.

  16. MatrixTransform Avatar

    It’s taking 35 seconds to reload the page after following a link. This is far too long. Six pages and this site is stuffed.

    sweet FA to do with following a link

    the delay is at the server

    d’overlord needs more hamsters

  17. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Well if you’re in Rockhampton or thereabouts perhaps a modicum of preparation for 160km/h winds would be prudent, but being on “high alert” is straining credulity.

    I think that warrants a “put the plastic furniture in the shed” warning.

  18. Digger Avatar

    Barking Toad
    Dec 5, 2023 3:13 PM
    Just received Digger’s book in the mail – “Bubbles,Booze ,Bombs and Bastards – A Clearance Divers Story”.

    Pleased you received it BT. I hope you enjoy it.

  19. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Refreshing pages and changing pages is quick-ish (3-5 seconds tops).
    Opening a link takes 10 – 20 seconds.
    Returning from a link takes > 30 seconds and occasionally freezes.

  20. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus


    Brittany and Bruce were always the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of this particular saga.

    Very good.
    And dead, in practical terms.

  21. mizaris Avatar

    Saw Deb Conway in a pub on Scarborough Beach Rd. Near Innaloo. Hot hot hot. Man overboard, what a great song.

    The old “Nooky”?


  22. cohenite Avatar

    Dec 5, 2023 10:24 PM
    Dr David Cartland

    Wikileaks just dumped all of their files online. Everything from Hillary Clinton’s emails, McCain’s being guilty, Vegas shooting done by an FBI sniper, Steve Jobs HIV letter, PedoPodesta, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Bilderberg, CIA agents arrested for rape, WHO pandemic. Happy Digging! Here you go, please read and pass it on.

    So Steve took it up the clacker and the FBI did the worst mass shooting in the US. I wonder why?

  23. MatrixTransform Avatar

    maybe the problem is with caching
    try holding Ctrl when clicking refresh

  24. Katzenjammer Avatar

    she’s always been a proud Jew and a proud Zionist. She married a Jewish man and has had three Jewish children.

    Jews who know they are Jewish have Jewish grandchildren. It’s something like a custodianship being passed down the generations. It’s surprising though how many Jews famous in history were partway on a three generations step by step dissipation and loss of that Jewishness in later generations, but even so, were notable for their iconoclastic revision of whatever was their field of interest – humour, medicine, social organisation, physics, mathematics, arts, moral philosophy, etc, etc.

  25. Katzenjammer Avatar

    The recently arrived mother and sister of a Brazilian girl killed at Nova who didn’t have the numbers for a Minyan, put out a request on social media and hundreds attended.
    Even Beyonce offering to host Emily Hand at any concert she wanted, anywhere in the world.
    So much good still in the world.

    This didn’t happen in the Nazi era. Hope.

  26. JC Avatar

    Very happy to hear Deborah Conway is on the side of the angels. I didn’t know she was Jewish. Being part of the entertainment industry, I would have thought she would have gone for the default position. So damn glad she didn’t. “It’s only the beginning!”

    Met her through our architect a long time ago. Her hubbie is a muso too. Lefties but also quite nice.

  27. duncanm Avatar

    Remember that disgusting heckling of families and friends of the Israeli victims and hostages?

    The Victorian Police Minister refused the Israeli Ambassador’s request to have a police presence at the hotel to protect the families of Israeli hostages and victims.

  28. Katzenjammer Avatar

    But we’re proud of being Jewish, we’re going to stand up and fight this Jew hatred running amok.

    We’re targets, we’re not cowering victims.

  29. Louis Litt Avatar
    Louis Litt

    This so called Pope. Clown, pretentious knob.
    The Bishop in Nigeria is the man to lead the Christian faiths in the 22nd century.
    He is able to articulate the reason for the Commandments and the Church’s stance on same sex “marriage” etc
    Now many of you lefties really wan a real African as a Pope, it’s not as if haws born in the USA or England.

  30. Katzenjammer Avatar

    Westfield Bondi Junction should be a safe place for Jews, it is located smack bang in the middle of an area populated by many Jews

    Anywhere should be a safe place – Lakemba, Bankstown, Innaminka, Broome, Port Douglas, Tibooburra, etc. etc. If anywhere isn’t, then who is it who stole our country.

  31. amortiser Avatar

    Interesting that the details about Sharaz sending that document to all and sundry describing Brucie as “the perpetrator” hasn’t yet appeared in Sam Maiden’s account of today’s proceedings. Maybe she nipped out to the pub when that was being detailed.

    Looks like Brittney is trying to make a second claim of being too drunk or drugged to give informed consent.

  32. johanna Avatar

    Cassie of Sydney
    Dec 5, 2023 8:48 PM

    The divine Deborah Conway said it best tonight, and that is that since 7 October every Jew has felt utterly wretched, depressed, sad. We’ve watched in dismay Jew hatred rise and rise with very little push back.

    But we’re proud of being Jewish, we’re going to stand up and fight this Jew hatred running amok.

    Pogria, my mother always said to us children, never ever cower in the corner. I watched a video of a Jewish woman on 7 October kicking and fighting the Nazi scum who were trying to drag her away. She fought. We will fight the Palestinian Nazi scum, and we will fight the leftist progressive scum.

    Up front, I 100% support Israel and whatever they have to do to get rid of Hamas and their supporters.

    But Cassie, what has happened to your brain? Just as well you’re not in the IDF, because apparently you and every Jew (rubbish!) , quote, ‘has felt utterly wretched, depressed, sad.’

    Wretched, depressed and sad are the opposite of a fighting spirit. Those words describe the curling up in the foetal position and giving up spirit.

    You need to stop playing both sides of the fence here, not to mention generalising about Jews. If you think that it might evoke sympathy to simultaneously play the victim and be ‘brave’, you are perilously close to the tactics of the identity politics crowd.

    As the semi-divine Gladys Mitchell said – I fear that we do not see you at your best.

  33. johanna Avatar

    Oh, and thanks all for the info about Christmas beetles. It is good to hear that they have not vanished, just moved elsewhere.

    As mentioned, the other sign of impending Christmas is cicadas. Just stepped outside and – guess what! Chirrup, chirrup, reee reee!

    On that note, the quintessential Australian cicada song:

    Cicada That Ate Five Dock


  34. johanna Avatar

    Still reading back, yes, refreshing the site is excruciatingly slow after it is more than 3 pages long. Getting back after following links, or accessing earlier pages, is even slower.

    No problems on other sites.

  35. johanna Avatar

    Clip of Man Overboard has gone into moderation.



  36. johanna Avatar

    Then out.


  37. JC Avatar

    But Cassie, what has happened to your brain? Just as well you’re not in the IDF, because apparently you and every Jew (rubbish!) , quote, ‘has felt utterly wretched, depressed, sad.’

    Most of our friends are Jewish and every single one is hugely impacted by the murderous rampage that occurred on Oct 7 and the flagrant and open anti-sem being on full display in Western cities.

    Jews aren’t the same as you and I because they can’t be. “Never forget”, 6 million European Jews were murdered in WW2 because of who they were (and only that). That trauma will never go away. There werre 3 million Jews living in Poland at the beginning of WW2. There are now a few thousand left. Not all disappeared in the holocaust obviously, but most did.

  38. JC Avatar

    Heartbreaking. No child should ever say these things.

    A home CCTV footage in the Kibbutz, a father in his underwear (looks to have just woken) frantically carrying his two sons, running, boys also in underwear (both appear between 8-12 like my son). Another camera shows them leave the house & enter a shelter in their backyard.

    Seconds later a Hamas approaches the shelter the father and sons entered, looks in, and then throws a grenade into it. The father falls out of the shelter dead, clearly having attempted to stand between his sons and the terrorist.

    The boys are pulled out of the shelter over their dead father’s body by a terrorist. They are taken back into the house, put on the couch in the house. Now sounds vividly of their moans of pain, blood from their injuries covering them, the boys talking to each other “Dad is dead”

    The older brother trying to comfort the younger, covered in blood now. “Can you see out of your eye? No? Not at all?” “No I can’t see anything.” The terrorist next to them going through their fridge picking out the water and coke to drink.

  39. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Thank you, JC.

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well said, JC. For every Jew it’s never forget, and never again.

    And know your enemy. Look what makes you fearful in the face, and fight. Cass has already mentioned the terrified young woman who fought like she meant it. It took seven Hamas Nazis to subdue and kidnap that girl on Oct 7, that day of infamy. Cass would do the same. I don’t doubt her courage nor do I doubt her fear.

    It lives with every Jew, Johanna. Try to appreciate that not denigrate it.

  41. John Avatar

    The way I read the MSM, that alleged “kiss” seems to be critical as to whether Bruce is guilty or not. They’ve been harping on it for days now.

  42. Winston Smith Avatar

    Received your book today, definitely a decent read. Lot’s of good photos.
    I’ve already read the bit in chapter 1 about the quarry.
    Did you look under the sun visor for the keys? That used to be a favourite place both Jack and Dad ‘hid’ them. 🙂

  43. Kneel Avatar

    “… my mother always said to us children, never ever cower in the corner.

    Great advice, Cassie.
    They are bullies, and like all bullies they are cowards.
    Have you noticed that there is only ever a large crowd of them? Unlike their intended victims, some of whom at least will stand up to them alone if necessary.
    If you cower in the corner, they will never stop.
    If you fight back, and they know that even if they win there is a cost to it, and they will look for an easier target.

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