Open Thread – Weekend 13 Dec 2023


The Nativity, Gari Melchers, 1860-1932

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Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:47 pm

err, are there no sensible white womanages left in the formerly Great Britain, I asks ya?

The three above are just mighty, but what the f*ck?

Where’s a Miss Ellie or a Kate type?

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 10, 2023 8:47 pm

They have no purpose
But to eff over the rest
Not much there for them

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:49 pm

Yes, she has copped some criticism here of late, Cats.

She remains nonetheless, a mighty Amazon.

Roger
Roger
December 10, 2023 8:52 pm

Fashionable causes, remain fashionable causes –

Only in the decadent inner cities of the West could causes become fashion accessories.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:53 pm

Let’s have some Pinking Shears, Cats …

John H.
John H.
December 10, 2023 8:56 pm

Dot
Dec 10, 2023 8:26 PM
What does it mean to be a man in America today? Young men are told that masculinity is “toxic,” traditional gender roles are oppressive, fathers are unnecessary, and women are no different from men. This is leaving young men grappling with questions about their identity and purpose. Aldo Buttazzoni searches for the truth and speaks with respected experts about the critical role men play in society in PragerU’s upcoming short documentary….

Take Prager with a mountain of salt. I’ve seen numerous people tear his arguments to shreds. First, determine if his claims are based in analysis or just his intuitions. The two primary motivations are still there: getting laid and getting ahead, the two obviously intertwined.

Roger
Roger
December 10, 2023 8:56 pm

What motivation do (young) men have now in the West?

In this neck of the woods it’s still a trade, a wife, a home & a family.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:57 pm

fashion accessories

I couldn’t even pretend to a be a palliweirdo, Rog – none of my four tea towels are of the keffiyah pattern … 🙁

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:58 pm

As for green headband cloth with squiggly white scrawls – fuggeddabboootit … 😕

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 8:58 pm

thefrollickingmole

Dec 10, 2023 4:42 PM
Too many challenges, it seems, when certain religions hold other groups as “unclean”, immoral or whatever.
Talibs “triumph of the least tolerant” is a good primer for where we will head.
The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small Minority

A pity the writer didn’t stick to the main point and instead did his very best to convince the reader he was very clever.
Lost me at the language offshoot. I understood what he was getting at, but got annoyed at the presumption of genius level thinking.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 9:00 pm

In this neck of the woods it’s still a trade, a wife, a home & a family.

Same, Roger.

Makka
Makka
December 10, 2023 9:00 pm

Awesome!!!

The General
@GeneralMCNews
BREAKING: Massive ‘F-ck Joe Biden’ chant breaks out at Army / Navy game.

https://twitter.com/GeneralMCNews/status/1733650433103499379

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 9:02 pm

Calli:

All part of life’s rich tapestry.

To me, that would be termed religious arrogance and I’d refuse to have them over for a meal again.
But then I’m a harsh bastard at times and refuse to be pushed around by others for whatever excuse they provide.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 9:06 pm

Deir Yassin was strategic, part bungled, and disgraceful. It’s remembered because that type of incident was so rare, so it quickly became an iconic moment in the war.

Link

Rabz
December 10, 2023 9:06 pm

What motivation do (young) men have now in the West?

Ultimately unrepentantly reclaiming their birthright, thanks very much.

Which they will do – and it will result in humiliation of their enemies on a grand scale.

No functioning society can exist unless it is controlled by men.

Sorry feminayzees and faggots, but the inexorable course of history* is not going to change because of your narcissistic idiocy.

*You do deserve to relive it, though, you arrogant idiots.

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 9:07 pm

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Bespoke
Dec 10, 2023 8:36 PM
What motivation do (young) men have now in the West?

Just a gues dot, your nephew.

You’re right but you’re also being glib. This is not something to be glib about.

The scale of disenfranchisement and political awareness of men younger than me is staggering.

The chutzpah of “boomers” on social media towards these young men is smug and sickening. Accusing them of being not real men and lacking purpose. LOL Matt Walsh – you were a radio host since you were 24.

It’s similar to how the DINKS were dragged by Conservative Inc recently.*

They’re coping. You shouldn’t kick someone when they’re down.

WHY are they coping?

Here’s the thing. On one income, they’d still be childless.

*Raising a family is great, but “Judeo Christian” conservatives saying being childless is a worthless existence is, quite frankly, complete crap. My evidence is Proverbs 25:24 and people like Nikola Tesla, Gregor Mendel etc. That ignores too the influence of childless relatives or the dignity of human life and the misfortune of infertility, etc.

Cassie of Sydney
December 10, 2023 9:08 pm

Dennis Prager and PragerU do a lot of good work.

rosie
rosie
December 10, 2023 9:10 pm
Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
December 10, 2023 9:12 pm

Romantic Warrior is a mighty horse.

And the greatest Jazz Rock album of all time

Rabz
December 10, 2023 9:13 pm

No functioning society can exist unless it is controlled by men

and if the statement above is bit too triggering for various idiots – name me one society (functioning or otherwise) that was governed by wymminses in human history.

Oh, that’s right – you can’t.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 9:13 pm

none of my four tea towels are of the keffiyah pattern

Wear a David Jones shopping bag

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 10, 2023 9:14 pm

Please keep in mind that Steven Miles is not as intelligent as Anastacia Palaszczuk.

very low bar there.

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 9:17 pm

Take Prager with a mountain of salt. I’ve seen numerous people tear his arguments to shreds. First, determine if his claims are based in analysis or just his intuitions. The two primary motivations are still there: getting laid and getting ahead, the two obviously intertwined.

Most men cannot afford to be married and divorced multiple times. Dennis Prager has done just that. I think he’s a damned fool. What did St Paul say about marriage?

Divorce Inc is a subject conservatives refuse to touch. “Just pick the right woman”. Let’s see what Steven Crowder says now. de Santis did good work in removing lifetime alimony in Florida. What an absolute joke that was.

COVID saw a massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the elites and family law and welfare is a massive transfer from men to women. Again I ask: what is left for men in the west? Men older than me may never have faced employment discrimination for being a normal white Australian male (I appreciate being able bodied and born here, but I refuse to apologise for that). I have certainly have. It is only going to get worse.

Men have to wake up. The men demanding other men need to “man up” and be a plough horse are like Boxer the draft horse in 1984.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 9:22 pm

Sure you can be a tight little crew…. snot on against any one who might attempt to join conversation with a perspective that is at odds with the approved paradigm.

Tell them to “bugger off” as you people so comprehensively did to me ..but this isn’t about who won a 5 minute kitchen screaming match …

It was about who had an open mind as to Geopolitics ,and was asking for more information that you pretend to have but .. actually don’t…

“Time will Tell”… and for you people It Has … In the Final Analysis .. and despite all of your bellicose predictions … all turned out to be wrong. Embarrassingly so.

There is nothing wrong with having opinions based on the best information we have to hand. Even better to try to find dissident opinions that are a bit off the “beaten Track” …

We are all Hostages to Fortune …

If any of these hostile ravings of you people ever find any you needing one of jury service… Rest Assured … I Will keep an Open Mind …

Regardless of how ever objectionably you may have treated me.. You Have a right to be unpleasant and clueless.

That said, if you mower shits itself I may not just nip next door and mow you’re lawn anyways .

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 9:22 pm

You’re right but you’re also being glib. This is not something to be glib about.

Sorry Dot it wasn’t my intent.

*Raising a family is great, but “Judeo Christian” conservatives saying being childless is a worthless existence is, quite frankly, complete crap.

I agree.

My brother in the US accusingly questions his purpose yet he is happly married and successful. He can not have kid is what gets to him sometimes.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 9:23 pm

err, Cats – I’m inebriated again, for a change. Because I can be. Was going to unrepentantly post the comment below and then thought, what if irredeemable imbeciles aren’t happy about it?

So I thought I’d just post anyway. Publish and be damned, man …

Women have very specific purposes on this planet – looking beautiful, dancing around (every now and then), keeping the house spotless, looking after their li’l kiddies and imparting their wisdom to the young womanages following in their stiletto clad footsteps.

If that makes me an ‘orrible ol’ sexist dinobore, not giving a rodent’s 🙂

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 9:24 pm

occasionally

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 9:26 pm

It was about who had an open mind as to Geopolitics

Tell us about Hamas’ “claims to justice”, you raving lunatic.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 9:27 pm

Pol Dot and meself have very similar views about womanages.

Tar, Baybee … 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 9:28 pm

The men demanding other men need to “man up” and be a plough horse are like Boxer the draft horse in 1984.

Whap.

Yeah, baby.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 9:33 pm

Those Hamas lardarses.
I recommend:
1) fasting 16:8;
2) cutting out all the carbs;
3) zero added sugar;
4) excercise, get the incline up to 10 degrees and go for as long as you can.

Siltstone
Siltstone
December 10, 2023 9:34 pm

Rabz @9:23
Your only vice is to love womanages too much. Please keep it up and keep posting those eclectic music videos.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 9:36 pm

Thanks, Silts.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 9:37 pm

Men need a cause.
Right now men are the cause… Of everything wrong in the world.

Or you can go this route.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 9:37 pm

@Dot .. how did all those “beheaded babies” atrocity porn work out for you? Max Blumenthal and others ,,, would have caught you up eventually and he/they did …

But They served your purpose. In the short term … Exactly what was that purpose?

Wait for the “blow back” …

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 9:40 pm

Sure you can be a tight little crew…. snot on against any one who might attempt to join conversation with a perspective that is at odds with the approved paradigm

There is no ‘approved paradigm’ at the Cat. This is the most diverse range of opinions in one place, in this country. This august journal of record and its prior iterations have had rampant commos, trans activists and flat-out wompus merchants gracing its pages for years.

Tell them to “bugger off” as you people so comprehensively did to me

Stop laying berley trails and actually have a point of view, or an opinion, that you are prepared to defend through debate.

Stop sooking. You’re not at uni now.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 9:42 pm

Bolton.

Wipe your tears away. I’m sure you have a keffiyeh handy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 10, 2023 9:45 pm

Deir Yassin was strategic, part bungled, and disgraceful. It’s remembered because that type of incident was so rare, so it quickly became an iconic moment in the war.

A most interesting, and informative link – thank you.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 9:45 pm

Those hamarse lardarses

Utterly humiliated.

The IDF makes their point, again, while displaying a hell of a lot more restraint than I would have.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 9:45 pm

@Dot … we all know the horrific History of this conflict ..I do and so do you… … dont pretend that because I dont back Hamas to the Hilt .. I never have … then you can throw angry fry pans at me ……and call me a “raving lunatic.”..

This is not how intelligent discussion about Geopolitics works and I reckon you know it as well as any one…

You are just going full “Show Pony” to what you imagine is your’e “crew” …

Take a bow …

Rabz
December 10, 2023 9:47 pm

flat-out wompus merchants

Oi! 😕

MatrixTransform
December 10, 2023 9:47 pm

Chorizo & eggs

Miguel is doing a preety good chorizo … can get them at Safeway

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 9:48 pm

@KD I dont wear any colors – never have … and if you had followed my contribution you would know that …

What was that you doing a ~zinger~ … ?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 9:48 pm

This is not how intelligent discussion about Geopolitics works

Neither is this:

how did all those “beheaded babies” atrocity porn work out for you?

For the record, 7 October 2023 wasn’t ‘atrocity porn’.

It was an atrocity.

Make your point. Without doublespeak, without hiding, and without sookage.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 9:49 pm

First, determine if his claims are based in analysis or just his intuitions.

intuition.

I don’t agree with all that’s said on prager u but it has been a useful tool. Like the cat but without the neurotic weirdows.

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 9:51 pm

Dot:

Men have to wake up. The men demanding other men need to “man up” and be a plough horse are like Boxer the draft horse in 1984.

Boxer was in Animal Farm. Not 1984.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 9:56 pm

Probably part of what is going wrong is that unaligned but horrified people … are trying to make sens of all this and are getting the \

“KD : Bolton.

Wipe your tears away. I’m sure you have a keffiyeh handy.”

When I never said any thing remotely like that … But Hey KD … Yer Crew gives you the big thumbs up for …going in hard … major thumbs major thumbs

And you people wonder why ?

MatrixTransform
December 10, 2023 9:57 pm

Men have to wake up. The men demanding other men need to “man up”

Dot, you sound like a feminist with yr special stand-point cause there.

the men are already awake,

the problem is boys … so many boys pretending they’re men

wishing they were

… if only somebody would let them

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 9:58 pm

@KD my point was that is didnt happen.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 9:58 pm

Sigh!!!

John H.
John H.
December 10, 2023 10:00 pm

*Raising a family is great, but “Judeo Christian” conservatives saying being childless is a worthless existence is, quite frankly, complete crap. My evidence is Proverbs 25:24 and people like Nikola Tesla, Gregor Mendel etc. That ignores too the influence of childless relatives or the dignity of human life and the misfortune of infertility, etc.

BTW, I don’t know that current day Christians make the argument about starting a family, although the demand of chastity before marriage probably requires it because it is better for man to burn than marry. Paul Lynde was well aware of that.

Increasing numbers of people are choosing the childless life. Peterson states that if you don’t want children you’re a sick puppy but then he almost always plays to his conservative base. The childless subsidize families and because of all the benefits provided to parents I wonder how much downward pressure that puts on wages. Family payments are a far bigger component of welfare than the dole but no politician will open that can of worms. It creates signal distortions into the economy and we are forever stuck with that. I don’t mind some support but Howard’s extension of family payments was a vote bribe and since then we have more absurdities; especially in relation to childcare.

Men have to wake up but Prager isn’t the alarm clock. Child support is not about justice it is about reducing welfare costs by placing unrealistic financial burdens on the non-custodial parent which is mostly the fathers. The Higgins saga is remarkable in that everyone was fretting about her mental health when Lehrmann had the most to lose. That disposition is condescending to women because men are far more likely to commit suicide but oh poor BH.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 10:02 pm

@KD Joe Bidenoplolis … spoke of his horror at seeing the photos of the beheaded babies… then later he said he didnt …but had heard of them …
Now if even Scranton “Down Home ” Joe didnt feel comfortable to lie about it …

what is left?

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 10:02 pm

Boxer was in Animal Farm. Not 1984.

Er yes…I blame only seeing the movie of one and bits of pieces of the other.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 10, 2023 10:05 pm

Reading “Conflict” on the subject of the Falklands War – on his way down to the Falklands, General Jeremy Moore brought along a photo of his Argentine counterpart, General Mario Benjamin Menendez, in much the same way Montgomery kept a photo of Erwin Rommel in his caravan during the Desert War. It later emerged that the photo was of the wrong General Menendez – there were no fewer then five of them, in the Argentine Army at the time. Page 161.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 10:06 pm

H ,…

Really complicated Stuff Mate .. no trite answers..well not from me at least,. … I am glad you put this before me to read.. Much Thanks ..

Lord Have Mercy …

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 10:06 pm

Utterly humiliated.
The IDF makes their point, again, while displaying a hell of a lot more restraint than I would have.

A question to keffiyeh krackpots –
Why do you think Israel kills women and children, but not Hamas who surrender?

Wonder what mobius pretzels of sophistry they can come up with. It doesn’t fit car bumper catch-phrase paradigms. They might need to attempt a thought for a change.

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 10:07 pm

It’s OK dot, I was once holding out on the Stalingrad battle and confused the Volga with the Don Rivers.
I still cringe…

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 10:08 pm

If enyone can decipher Bidens babbling it’s you Bird.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 10:09 pm

Oh dear Lord.

@KD my point was that is didnt happen.

Because Biden said he didn’t see it, does not mean it didn’t happen. It is everywhere on the Net, should you choose to look for yourself instead of playing for sympathy and playing victim at the same time.

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 10:13 pm

Mark Bolton
Dec 10, 2023 9:58 PM
@KD my point was that is didnt happen.

You are an idiot, a liar and a shill for ethnic cleansing. All because you blame “Jews” for your personal failings.

All of the military action that happened after 7/10 would not have happened if Hamas did not attack Israel.

The war is almost over. Hamas has been destroyed. Maybe we will see a free Palestine after all.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 10:13 pm

@Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

I know you have had a crack at me for being a Leftie or what ever… and I really dont mind.. But I really have it drilled into my head an interview with a bloke involved in that sorry pointless conflict … the words … “There is nothing like the sound of a high velocity round going into and out of a human body ” … Unforgettable.

I know you blokes Hate me because I often sign of with;

Peace..

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 10:14 pm

@Dot … cuppla deep breaths … I never made any of those contentions …

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 10, 2023 10:14 pm

This Bolton chap seems to be on some excellent substance, meth or whatever.

It certainly works for incoherent comment.

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 10:15 pm

Dot, you sound like a feminist with yr special stand-point cause there.

No, men need to wake up because they’re being screwed. This is a plea and advice.

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 10:17 pm

I know you blokes Hate me because I often sign of with;

Peace..

You never said that before 7/10. Only after the genocidal death cultists FAFO’d did you regale us with this mawkish pea and thimble caterwauling.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 10:18 pm

It certainly works for incoherent comment.

You wouldn’t say that if you were a fireman, union shoppie, astronaut, lumberjack, prisoner, bicycle repairman and all-round bon vivant.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 10, 2023 10:21 pm

I always wanted to be a lumberjack, leaping from tree to tree.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 10:23 pm

KD .. I have honestly told you folks a bit about my Life .. why would I lie ? It was complicated enough when I was living it … and nothing I have ever brought forth has militated in my favour …I dont care if you belive me or not … I might work better for you if you do but if you dont, no loss to me …

Rabz
December 10, 2023 10:27 pm

Cats, all would be revealed … 🙂

Rabz
December 10, 2023 10:29 pm

lumberjack

Saturday morning, finally vanquishing the frangipani … 🙂

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 10:31 pm

@KD It might be a good idea for all people to just “fess up ” after all … In the Final Analysis

Our Savior Jesus is the “call” …

Just tell the Truth … just keep an open mind …What have you got to lose …

Sure the Cats can hammer me and call me all sorts…

But ask yourselves “Who are You Anyway?

John H.
John H.
December 10, 2023 10:36 pm

Facing an international revolt against the brutal invasion of Gaza this week, Israel’s President Isaac Herzog warned Wednesday that Hamas posed an “existential threat” to the world.

The hyperbole machine at full revs. Hamas is already on its knees yet somehow it is going to take over the world. I may as well add to the trend. Hyperbole is an existential threat to the world. We’re drowning in doomsdayism and a gazillion chicken littles.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 10:36 pm

@KD “Prisoner and firefighter ” .. definitely … But I never claimed anything else .. Where do you get your ideas from?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 10, 2023 10:36 pm

But ask yourselves “Who are You Anyway?

I’m a lumberjack and I’m OK.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 10:38 pm

Get off the pipe.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 10:38 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
December 10, 2023 10:42 pm

And now we take a break from regular Night Shift programming. Please do not adjust your sets.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 10:43 pm

Why is ii that you people always use the sneer “incoherent” when the counte rargument is completely coherent .. just you dont like it and prefer the Primary School Teacher ~ruler on the knuckles ad Hom .. because you are shit at debate? ”

Way to win !!! MIs Miss Miss …Little Johny just disagreed with … Mis Mis Miss

But Hey this is where you live and far be it from me to hold you to any form of task ?

Have Fun … and I know you will Hate my guts for posting this ..

Peace .

Rabz
December 10, 2023 10:43 pm

Rock ‘n’ Roll, Cats – she says … 🙂

Rabz
December 10, 2023 10:47 pm
Rabz
December 10, 2023 10:49 pm

Some womanages strike back against Rabz for his ‘orrible zeexist comments earlier … 😕

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 10:50 pm

@KD I dont know where I once formed the opinion that you were a real person .. probably a cuppla years ago … but the snippy bitchy sniping crap persona you are posting at me now?

Hardly Manly ? Definitely not worth engaging with .. but I seem to remember a KD once that had a pulse .. perhaps I am mistaking you for someone else . ?

MatrixTransform
December 10, 2023 10:54 pm

No, men need to wake up because they’re being screwed

no … boys need to stfu with their relativist whining

MatrixTransform
December 10, 2023 10:56 pm

stop talking like a man

and start being one

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 10:57 pm

Mark Bolton
Dec 10, 2023 10:36 PM
@KD “Prisoner and firefighter ” .. definitely … But I never claimed anything else .. Where do you get your ideas from?

1. Actually you also claimed to be:

A (now reformed and medically cured) drug addict
A dole bludger
A geotechnical worker
A miner
A shop steward
A pilot
An electronics technician
A heavy vehicle driver
A mobile plant operator

Plus about three to four more professions.

2. You.

Arky
December 10, 2023 10:59 pm

Again I ask: what is left for men in the west?

..
It’s a big world and there are tens of thousands of things to do and not enough time in which to do it.
You’ll be fine, and so will most of they.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 10:59 pm

because you are shit at debate?

Disagreement and debate is the lifeblood of any blog.

The single position you have put forward is that the atrocities of 7/10 didn’t happen, but you have yet to articulate why all the video produced and celebrated by the towelies is fake.

The rest is a whiny shitfest of victimhood. Peace out, fake lumberjack.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 11:00 pm

OK Claws and All guys, I know I am in the feline den.. shit and all I know you all totally are .. am I much better? Perhaps ? Perhaps not ? I try my Hardest …

Time to Relax…

Ian Dury … Passing Show ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HL4zg1h6c

Peace Brothers and Sisters …

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 11:01 pm

MatrixTransform
Dec 10, 2023 10:56 PM
stop talking like a man

and start being one

Stop whining.

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 11:06 pm

It’s a big world and there are tens of thousands of things to do and not enough time in which to do it.
You’ll be fine, and so will most of they.

I largely agree. It’s incredible that we, as a society, intentionally antagonise and hobble those who are the economic powerhouse of society and its protectors.

I will not abide by the smearing of the same young men when they have been set up to fail.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 11:09 pm

@KD .. No I never said that .. I just said that the propaganda porn fest was rife on both sides of the conflict … and it only unlocks another level … which is happening as I post ..

And you call me a lumberjack? Confusing … Only trees I ever cleared I used explosives..but really it doesnt matter to any of you .. does it … ? … The Truth doesnt matter … any genuine person wanting to get some clue of what is going on …

“Nah …just slag em off …. !!! We are Conservatives … Call e’em Lumberjacks.. we once saw it on a Monty Python Show .. Gosh aren’t we all very Culturally imbued ”

Hey it has been informative…

MatrixTransform
December 10, 2023 11:14 pm

Stop whining

nice try you self professed beta

men have to wake up? … like seriously, wake up men!!!

Dot, when yr not prosecuting your paranoid fantasies about who masquerades as whom in this idiotic forum

you’re busy pretending to be most manly man evah

talk about pretense

put yr balls on the line instead of yr mouth

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 11:15 pm

The hyperbole machine at full revs.

Listen to your enemy’s messages. They have told us their plans. Treat it seriously to make sure they can’t execute it. That’s not hyperbole. That’s heeding and acting on a warning.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 10, 2023 11:16 pm

You appear to hold a view that those who party at peace events, and who sing and smile, don’t know when to fight for the right to party at peace events and proudly grin with the flag.

Damn right. If you’re a soldier and you behave like a gormless teeny-bopper, expect trouble. Proudly grinning with the flag doesn’t make you a soldier. Girl guides were supposed to be prepared. An IDF soldier rather more so. If they thought partying for peace was the way to go, they were incompetent as soldiers.

They didn’t deserve to die for their folly, but the universe doesn’t treat stupidity kindly. And imagining that offering Hamas daisy-chains would lead to peace breaking out all over was really, really stupid. Partying for peace is dumb.
I hope the survivors have learnt that. It seems as if you haven’t.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 11:18 pm

The Man For All Seasons, and apropos of Israeli child beheadings:

KD .. No I never said that

Yes. Yes you did, at 9.58:

KD my point was that is didnt happen.

And no, no you didn’t say this:

I just said that the propaganda porn fest was rife on both sides of the conflict

You did not say that. At all.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 11:19 pm

Perhaps you could all more accurately identify yourselves as “inner circle smooch fest” and ….Strawman any outsiders … Oh shriek …

Gabor
Gabor
December 10, 2023 11:19 pm

hzhousewife
Dec 10, 2023 8:27 PM

Pity it doesnt have it’s balls because that win & Cox Plate would make it a gazillion dollar horse at stud.


No wrigglies kept in dry ice?

Not for racehorses as far as I know.
It has to be the real thing.
Although, I bet some dodgy deals happen.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 11:22 pm

Chesty Blonde puts Dreyfus under the bus (the Hun):

Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil has finally said she is “sorry” that alleged crimes have been committed by at least six detainees released following the High Court’s controversial ruling about indefinite immigration detention.

The apology comes after Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus last week unleashed on a female journalist who asked if the federal government owed the alleged victims an apology saying the question was “absurd”.

Ms O’Neil did not directly answer the question last Wednesday, instead saying the ministers’ jobs were to lawfully protect the community and that was what they were “focused on”.

The knives are out. Carnage will ensue.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 11:22 pm

@DrBeauGan

Repeat – You don’t know stuff all about Israelis. Your ignorant views about this are of no consequence.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 11:26 pm

@KD Well Sparky .. just tell us … of all the Atrocity porn ? … Since you say I have no clue … well what did happen .. ? and what didnt ? … Since you seem to be so much better informed . I bow to your expertise.

MatrixTransform
December 10, 2023 11:31 pm

KD is just assuming the sale again

all his bullshit about opinions and arguments

truth is, he never had either

man’s a weather vane

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 11:34 pm

@KD I am not taking the piss here Mate … what would I know ? what could I possibly know .. I am just saying that the current narrative seems like BS Ib live in Western Australia… certainly my suburb is rising in anger … but I try to keep an open mind… .

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 10, 2023 11:37 pm

Repeat – You don’t know stuff all about Israelis. Your ignorant views about this are of no consequence.

The Israelis I knew were adults. You seem much more familiar with adolescents.
Fortunately, adolescents grow up. Usually.

John H.
John H.
December 10, 2023 11:37 pm

Katzenjammer
Dec 10, 2023 11:15 PM
The hyperbole machine at full revs.

Listen to your enemy’s messages. They have told us their plans. Treat it seriously to make sure they can’t execute it. That’s not hyperbole. That’s heeding and acting on a warning.

Of course it was hyperbole. Hamas militants is already surrendering in large numbers and you think they present a threat to the West. It is the old political rhetorical nonsense repeated over and over yet people like you fall for it.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 11:42 pm

Also I can see quite a few of you good folks love to share a more robust version of your Lives than might be strictly justifiable … Nothing wrong with that …. Hey dont we all. ?? But I have never flat out lied.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 10, 2023 11:47 pm

H “Hamas militants is already surrendering in large numbers…. ” But in doing so they have achieved their objective … They are playing a bigger game…

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 11:52 pm

nice try you self professed beta

You crying out in pain as you attempt to strike me.

Beta males are by definition, submissive. I’m telling men NOT to submit!

Society is sick, men are treated as disposable. I want that to change.

You’re trying to tone police the debate with shaming language. I won’t play this game. Your definitions are wrong so you don’t even understand what insults you are flinging around mindlessly.

There are millions of disenfranchised men in the US. Once again, you are blaming them for a system they were born into.

This has no merit or value. You’re not even saying what men should do other than mouth platitudes.

You also are not taking the existential threat of alienating millions of your own people within your own borders.

Calling people beta males isn’t going to help if there is civil unrest, let alone even a small proportion of them joining actual extremist or separatist movements.

To wit: 4chan didn’t happen in a vacuum.

Bruce in WA
December 10, 2023 11:55 pm
Digger
Digger
December 10, 2023 11:57 pm

The US security state can not have a non-establishment candidate run again, let alone win.

I expect it to be a plane crash…. probably get shot down but investigators will find pilot error…

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 10, 2023 11:58 pm

The knives are out. Carnage will ensue.

Bull Shitten and the Dealer’s Missus will have them unsheathed trying to work out who to stab first before they turn on each other.

The smug boy treasurer is trying to get his pocket knife out of his pants before he works out how to open it.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 11, 2023 12:01 am

Dot nips and yapps at all and every good folk .. He has called me all sorts of names and charged me with all sorts of malign things. and I think it uncharitable of me to respond. So I chose not to.

There might still tbe good reason for me to see what mindset arises from this grroup.

Peace.

Dot
Dot
December 11, 2023 12:02 am

Mark Bolton
Dec 11, 2023 12:01 AM
Dot nips and yapps at all and every good folk .. He has called me all sorts of names and charged me with all sorts of malign things. and I think it uncharitable of me to respond. So I chose not to.

You’re so full of shit, Bird.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 11, 2023 12:08 am

@Bruce in Wa …

Mate these damned foreigners seem so much better at Christmas than I will ever be …

put a beer in my hand (James Boag Premium or forget it ) … and the Barbecue tools and I can make it all happen !!

https://youtu.be/L_0azvCK4OA

Christ The Savoir is Born …

Peace

Bruce in WA
December 11, 2023 12:09 am

OK, just to show I’m not completely soppy (love that word), here’s one of my favourites … THIS is a Christmas carol!!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 11, 2023 12:11 am

Lovely link Bruce in WA.

Very relaxing.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 11, 2023 12:30 am

LOL, Jasper isn’t conforming. Thought our warning would be downgraded to a watch or even cancelled by now. Na and BOM have muddied the waters with vague language in their bulletin.

Be interesting to see where this goes on the next update at 0500h tomorrow. BOM have it weakening to a Cat 1.

Personally I don’t think anyone knows atm…

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 11, 2023 3:45 am

Damn right. If you’re a soldier and you behave like a gormless teeny-bopper, expect trouble. Proudly grinning with the flag doesn’t make you a soldier. Girl guides were supposed to be prepared. An IDF soldier rather more so. If they thought partying for peace was the way to go, they were incompetent as soldiers.

Did you serve, BG?

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2023 6:30 am

I won’t play this game.

you can’t help it Madame Curie … yr scripted that way

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 11, 2023 7:52 am

For goodness sake, Elizabeth, ignore the down ticks. Don’t look. Don’t scroll back.

They are harmless little pixels. They can’t hurt you unless you allow them to.

This is an open blog, not a pleasant chat around the fire – or air conditioner – depending on where you live. Apart from small groups here and there, we’re not buddies. We might be drawn to particular pixels and annoyed by others. Certainly, there’s plenty to learn from the experts who comment here. But in general, we are strangers with no connection to each other.

Re your little lecture, I have never said nor thought otherwise, Delta A, with the exception of those who have been personally friendly to me here or those whom I know IRL as friends.

If we remove all ‘chat’ though we remove half the blog, so I do disagree with that aspect of your extensive comment. One person’s ‘chat’ is another person’s ‘commentary’. As I’ve also said, the downticks are only worth discussing for what they reveal about those who have nothing to say and I as I also said, I tend to ignore them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 11, 2023 7:56 am

As a little irrelevancy, just to explain why I won’t be around this morning, I am off to a dance class and it’s quite a long drive. It is there that I enjoy a regular ‘chat’ over coffee with friends. In general, IRL, I am not short of good friends, although at my age the reaper has taken a few already. 🙂

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 11, 2023 9:58 am

Last word.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 11, 2023 2:02 pm

Plaiting the cavoodle?
Stroking the lapdog?
Airmileing the pooch?
Dorking the dishlicker?

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