Open Thread – Wed 13 Dec 2023


The Triumph of Judas Maccabeus, Rubens, 1634–1636

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Bespoke
Bespoke
December 13, 2023 6:49 pm

Notafan

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 13, 2023 6:51 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Dec 13, 2023 6:01 PM
Caught out on the thread change.

Lizzie to Duk:

Well done Lizzie, you disagree with me and you state your reasons …. thats what this forum should be about – much better than simply thinking that labelling me antisemetic constitutes a robust rebuttal – the Duk takes you off his ‘reflexive accusers’ list, and back onto his ‘worth engaging with’ list.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 13, 2023 6:51 pm

David Bowie
hang on what are we talking about

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 13, 2023 6:52 pm

Is it safe ?
Stock up on Oil of Cloves, Calli.

rosie
rosie
December 13, 2023 6:52 pm

LOL.
I’ve mentioned before that the IDF do posthumous promotions for soldiers who are killed.
I think it is about always but not certain.

Rafiki
Rafiki
December 13, 2023 6:52 pm

JC Yes, most 1950s kids in Melbourne had that experience. The cafeteria in Myers was the high point of my experience on these infrequent shopping excursions. In more recent years I read that the cakeshop in Swanston Street, near Flinders Street, was the primary pick joint for lesbians. No reflection on your mum of course.
In the early 60s, I saw a lot of Swanston Street as a trammie on te lines that ran into the south-east.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 13, 2023 6:52 pm

Sancho Panser 13/12 @ 7:07am
I am of the opinion that Robert’s Smith is a set up because he is a male.
A agree with Cohenites opinion it was a terrible decision.
Besanko is a follower of his faith.
I would have expected for him to see through all of this hit job.
I want to know if there is back ground to this – how it appears to the public.
Does his appointment to this case give it street cred.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 13, 2023 6:53 pm

I miss Gab. I suspect many lurk here.
Yep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 6:54 pm

Litt.
Apart from base bigotry, there is still no explanation for how Besanko’s faith is relevant to the BRS case.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 13, 2023 6:55 pm

There’s a fine line between angry and grumpy. Angry isn’t nice, but grumpy is funny.

– Rick Wakeman

Tom
Tom
December 13, 2023 6:55 pm

I’ve been very depressed today and this just adds to my depression. I weep.

Cheer up, Cassie. The human thirst for freedom won’t be defeated. We’re just going through a period where the advocates of tyranny and fascism are ascendant in the West and athiest wannabe gods are in fashion.

However decadent they become, they’ll never replace the real thing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 6:55 pm

Leigh Lowe.
I wonder what happened to her.

132andBush
132andBush
December 13, 2023 6:58 pm

C.L.
Dec 13, 2023 6:42 PM

That was quick:

He’s good for a show.
Everyone likes a good show.

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 6:59 pm

This Albanese government is deliberately stoking Jew hatred.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 13, 2023 6:59 pm

Thats my assessment of the situation as a 25 year military officer with 3 deployments of the middle east

“That’s where I discovered all Muslims are the same” which is implied in all his comments.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 13, 2023 7:00 pm

Leigh Lowe died like the glutton in Seven.
Tragic.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 7:00 pm

Thats a pretty rank heavy cas list, sounds like a battalion HQ got hit.

Dear old Sleepy (spit) Joe (Spit) fvcking (spit) Biden opens his mouth and says these losses will continue, until Bibi Netenyahu sees the need for a “Two State” solution. Words fail me, they honestly do.

132andBush
132andBush
December 13, 2023 7:01 pm

Leigh Lowe.
I wonder what happened to her.

Transitioned.

P
P
December 13, 2023 7:01 pm

I miss Gab.

Indeed.
She knew who Mark Bolton was (definitely not Graeme Bird) and where necessary she may have pulled him into line here, if needed, as she had done before on the old catallaxyfiles.com. In a friendly way I think she said ‘behave yourself Mark’. Dear soul he was/is.

rosie
rosie
December 13, 2023 7:02 pm

It’s odd Cassie that whenever I see pictures of IDF fallen they seem so nice, so normal, men you would be happy to have in your family.
The terrorists on the other hand, nearly all with dead eyes and a sense of the malevolent about them.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 13, 2023 7:03 pm

Leigh Lowe.
I wonder what happened to her.

Married Rex Anger and living Scotland.

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 7:04 pm

It’s odd Cassie that whenever I see pictures of IDF fallen they seem so nice, so normal, men you would be happy to have in your family.
The terrorists on the other hand, nearly all with dead eyes and a sense of the malevolent about them.

Yep.

Vicki
Vicki
December 13, 2023 7:06 pm

I miss Gab. I suspect many lurk here.

So do I. I was only thinking about her the other day, & wondering why we no longer hear from her.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 7:06 pm

From Michael Smith – I’ve posted the article in full.

Australian Jewish Association’s strongest yet condemnation of Albanese Government
Wednesday, 13 December 2023

AJA statement:

The Australian Jewish Association strongly condemns the Albanese Government after it called for a ceasefire between Israel and the terrorist organisation, Hamas.

Through its actions and words, this Government has repeatedly demonstrated that it is no friend of Israel or the Australian Jewish Community. In a time of surging antisemitism, weak and cowardly leadership from the top, sends all the wrong messages.

The Albanese Government may get some praise from terrorist organisations and antisemitic groups but has made itself irrelevant internationally and will have zero impact on the war.

The Australian Jewish Association had warned before the last election of the risks associated with a Labor victory. Our worst fears have been confirmed. The Jewish community will never forget how our government abandoned us.

We note that Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Foreign Minister Penny Wong still haven’t bothered to visit Israel to show solidarity following the horrific massacre of October 7. We thank Opposition Foreign Affairs Spokesman, Simon Birmingham, who is currently in Israel as well as the Opposition for demonstrating true leadership at this time.

As with the Nazis or ISIS, there must not be and will not be a ceasefire with Hamas. The only options are for their total surrender or complete annihilation and the return of the over 100 kidnapped Israelis.

With a government that is so weak on foreign policy, Australians will rightly be concerned about how they would handle national security issues in our region.

Robert Gregory, Chief Executive Officer, Australian Jewish Association

Vicki
Vicki
December 13, 2023 7:10 pm

Oh yes…& I miss Tailgunner.

Roger
Roger
December 13, 2023 7:11 pm

…weak and cowardly leadership from the top, sends all the wrong messages.

And don’t think it’s not being noted by Australians.

An early mis-step by Luxon too.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 7:11 pm

Albanese, Trudeau & NZ Prime Minister make joint statement calling on Israel to show restraint

Again from Michael Smith. These fools are calling for a “Two State ” solution…

calli
calli
December 13, 2023 7:12 pm

Inverness? 🙂

Nice spot.

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 7:12 pm

Transitioned

Not very well, I understand.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 7:12 pm

I miss Popular Front of New England. Watching he, and Numbers, at ten paces was fine sport!

C.L.
C.L.
December 13, 2023 7:13 pm

St Lucy’s Day procession in Sweden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2-Q_ObdE-4

Beautiful harmonies.

Enjoy it. Because the Swedes are busy destroying their own culture.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 13, 2023 7:14 pm

It’s not too early for redpill Christmas Carols.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FmGIq9x8r88

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 13, 2023 7:14 pm

Javier Milei’s First Day in Office – Reduce the Size of Government

“Argentina’s new President, Javier Milei, is making headlines around the world for vowing to radically change Argentina’s failing political system. Milei campaigned on implementing a “chainsaw plan” that would swiftly cut useless bureaus that drain government resources with no or minimal benefit to the public. Milei stuck to his campaign promises and slashed the number of federal agencies from 18 to 9.

The reduction in the size of the government reflects Milei’s proactive approach and sets a precedent for the drastic measures he deems necessary to overcome Argentina’s economic challenges. The ministries that remain include Interior, Foreign Relations, Defense, Economy, Justice, Security, Health, and the recently created Ministry of Human Capital, which consolidates several previous ministries. Mileni cut agencies such as the Ministry of Women Genders and Diversity, which he believed existed as leftist pet projects.

Inflation is quickly rising close to 200%, and over 40% of the population lives below the poverty line. The nation’s net foreign currency reserves are estimated at negative -$10,000,0000. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and some private creditors expect a large payment by the end of January to the tune of $4 billion. “There is no money,” the new president said before Congress. “The outgoing government has left us on track towards hyperinflation,” Milei said. “We are going to do everything we can to avoid such a catastrophe.”

Milei rightfully believes that the country is close to collapsing. He has an unnerving task ahead of him as major changes are necessary to reverse years of policies that ruined a nation. Imagine choosing to allocate funds to a diversity panel while nearly half the country is food insecure. Reducing the size of government is a guaranteed way to cut expenses and useless regulations that do not benefit the people.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/javier-mileis-first-day-in-office-reduce-the-size-of-government/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Siltstone
Siltstone
December 13, 2023 7:15 pm

John Constanine is missed

Tom
Tom
December 13, 2023 7:15 pm

I miss Gab. I suspect many lurk here.

Gab has a life that doesn’t include the need to be online every day — much to the bemusement of politics junkies like me.

Hi, Gab!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 13, 2023 7:17 pm

Duk – On the insurgency thing I think the IDF has a better handle on such than anyone other than the Russians. And no one in the West can do the Russia thang (see: Chechnya).

What appears to be in train is what I’ve outlined previously. Destroy all opposition. Raze everything standing to rubble. Leave. Then let the ferals live in tents on a bare plain.

Not much you can do in a tent.

And that is how you defang an insurgency without doing the Russian option. Which also works, but only if you have the press on your side.

An insurgency only works if you are there to be insurgencied against. If you aren’t there they can’t do it to you. The key is for them to be left without a pot to piss in. In a tent.

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 7:17 pm

All of them university graduated mongs.

A few more of them released on the world yesterday via UniMelb. A solid cohort of ‘International Journalism’ grads as well. As mentioned on old Fred, mostly minority group of Aus girlies. Which should surprise absolutely no one.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 13, 2023 7:17 pm

Wishing you and your family God’s blessing for a sad day tomorrow. I’m sure you’ve got plenty of Scripture but I’ll give you a bit of Tolkien.

“I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.” Gandalf to the friends at the Grey Havens. Plenty of tears, but joyful hope, I pray.

Muddy
Muddy
December 13, 2023 7:17 pm

Memoryvault.
MK50.
Custard pops in occasionally still, I believe.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
December 13, 2023 7:18 pm

Sally Crapp, the Melbourne mayor and the Liars are going what they possibly can to destroy the city. Over the lockdown, they reduced parking spaces by probably 30% and added empty looking bike lanes reducing streets to a single lane for cars. The parking signs are unintelligible, which means that if you’re lucky to take the only street parking space in the city, you will invariably get a fine for not reading the signs correctly.

I fail to understand how bike lanes encourage anyone to go out to dinner or shop in the CBD, no-one over 25 is going to cycle home at 11pm with a new dining suite. Hence the eating places and stores are closing down and moving out. How can they not see this?

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 7:19 pm

John Constanine is missed

Most definitely, Comrades!

Also, Hi Gab!

Rabz
December 13, 2023 7:19 pm

From the adjoining room where I’m hoovering dinner, the Sky weather bint in Queensland sounds like a complete imbecile.

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 7:20 pm

How can they not see this?

Stupid is as stupid does. Wouldn’t see reality if it was an oversized Doberman gnawing on their leg.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 13, 2023 7:21 pm

Monty
Numberwang

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 7:25 pm

The other day I made a remark about Chris Minns. I think it was Vicki who disagreed with me. I stand by my comment about Chris Minns being a pretty, vacuous and very useless puppet. He was an acceptable face for NSW Labor after a succession of disastrous NSW Labor leaders. That, combined with the fact that the NSW Liberals government was a tired twelve year old government, helped Labor win in March.

Minns does talk a good talk, but he does not walk that talk. He mutters condemnation of the Jew hatred running amok in this state however here’s the blunt truth, his government has directly contributed to this rampant Jew hatred, it started when the corpses scattered across southern Israel were still warm, with the disgraceful events on the steps of Sydney Opera House on the night of 9 October 2023.

Since then, it’s gotten progressively worse. Every week we have seen festivals of Jew hatred on our CBD streets, and what happens? Minns mutters some words but nothing happens, the Jew hatred continues.

Of course, a compliant media never holds Labor to account, federally or state. Meanwhile, NSW Labor are directly engaged in fomenting Jew hatred. The most recent example was last night at Waverley Council when the Liberals councillors put up a motion to condemn the Greens deputy leader, Mehreen Faruqi over her recent antisemitic stunt…BUT Labor and Greens councillors teamed up to remove any condemnation of the Greens.

So, there you have it. I’ll believe Chris Minns is sincere about Jew hatred when he takes steps to stop the Jew hatred that is running amok in his party, until then he just a good sweet talker.

Muddy
Muddy
December 13, 2023 7:25 pm

hzhousewife
I fail to understand how bike lanes encourage anyone to go out to dinner or shop in the CBD, no-one over 25 is going to cycle home at 11pm with a new dining suite. Hence the eating places and stores are closing down and moving out. How can they not see this?

Is the end goal making the use of privately owned vehicles a conferred privilege?

Vicki
Vicki
December 13, 2023 7:26 pm

I have often wondered whether Helen (pretty sure that was her name) is still on the land. She made me cry during the drought of 2017-9 when she lamented that an old cow had died just before the rains came. I really identified with that. I was desperate to keep our little herd alive & was distraught when our Ag supplier said he couldn’t get any more hay. As it turned out, we managed to get some big bales further afield. Ultimately, the rains came (big time!) & we didn’t lose an animal.

But my mind could somehow see the ragged old cows in Helen’s paddock.

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 7:26 pm

Monty
Numberwang

And apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind
Such as — What d’ye call him — Thing’em bob, and likewise — Never-mind
And ‘St— ‘st— ‘st— and What’s-his-name, and also You-know-who —
The task of filling up the blanks I’d rather leave to you
But it really doesn’t matter whom you put upon the list
For they’d none of ’em be missed — they’d none of ’em be missed!

Tom
Tom
December 13, 2023 7:27 pm

Sally Crapp, the Melbourne mayor and the Liars are going what they possibly can to destroy the city.

Like Sydney’s Clover Moore, Sally Capp is an anti-free-market Green who wants to see cars banned from the CBD. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s an enthusiastic supporter of Hamas’s genocide.

It’s a feature, not a bug, of the modern Western left, which wants us living in cold mountain caves.

Rabz
December 13, 2023 7:27 pm

Canadian Medical Schools Asked To Shift From “Medical Expertise” To Anti-Racism & Social Justice Training (13 Dec)

Given the only training it seems medical students there now need is how to euthanase people, this is hardly surprising.

Arky
December 13, 2023 7:27 pm

Megan
Dec 13, 2023 7:20 PM
How can they not see this?

Stupid is as stupid does. Wouldn’t see reality if it was an oversized Doberman gnawing on their leg

..
CBD looks increasingly just like a dormitory for the ever expanding University of a Melbourne and it’s subsidiaries.
We were looking up at the buildings today and trying to figure out which were residential and which commercial.
The cov has done lord knows what to the commercial properties.
Retail frontages were mostly Chinese restaurants or Asian groceries.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 13, 2023 7:27 pm

In the “dont hold back, tell us what you really think” file…

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1734679112059642235

I think Israel made a mistake in not putting out most of the atrocity footage.
Much like Eisenhower’s “film this or they wont believe us” about the WW2 camps, the Pallis have no hesitation is putting out images of their dead/wounded because a moving image is worth a thousand words.

Roger
Roger
December 13, 2023 7:27 pm

Labor MP Josh Burns has condemned Albanese’s ceasefire call.

Unlike Albanese, he’s actually visited Israel since 7/10.

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 7:28 pm

Deepest apologies to G&S for linking their lyrics to *spit* Monty and *double spit* the despicable vet from ‘Woomba.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 13, 2023 7:28 pm

An insurgency only works if you are there to be insurgencied against. If you aren’t there they can’t do it to you. The key is for them to be left without a pot to piss in. In a tent.

I tend to agree, but the problem is, the West has made the ‘mistake’ of seeding a sizeable, and growing, Islamic population into their midst. They breed at higher rates than the domestic population, often aided by the welfare state, which means ‘leaving’ is no longer an option, the enemy is within the wire.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 13, 2023 7:28 pm

“Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
? Dwight D. Eisenhower

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 7:28 pm

There are a few names mentioned above that are NOT missed.

calli
calli
December 13, 2023 7:29 pm

Gab has a life that doesn’t include the need to be online every day — much to the bemusement of politics junkies like me.

Does she indeed?

Inconceivable!

Get in here you slacker!

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 7:29 pm

Labor MP Josh Burns has condemned Albanese’s ceasefire call.

Thought Labor severely punished anyone who departs from the permitted narrative?

Indolent
Indolent
December 13, 2023 7:31 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 7:31 pm

feelthebern

Dec 13, 2023 7:00 PM

Leigh Lowe died like the glutton in Seven.
Tragic.

To be perfectly honest, she was a bit of a snippy bitch.
She was really quite cruel to Faulty, actually.

Indolent
Indolent
December 13, 2023 7:31 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 7:31 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 7:33 pm

Bespoke

Dec 13, 2023 7:03 PM

Leigh Lowe.
I wonder what happened to her.

Married Rex Anger and living Scotland.

Fake noos.
Rex is gay.

Vicki
Vicki
December 13, 2023 7:33 pm

So, there you have it. I’ll believe Chris Minns is sincere about Jew hatred when he takes steps to stop the Jew hatred that is running amok in his party, until then he just a good sweet talker

It was me, Cassie, who defended Minns. I did so because I thought the actual words he spoke at the rally for Israel were quite incredible for a Labor politician. I agree that he needs to take his Police Minister aside with strict guidelines on how far “free speech” & the right to assemble is exercised in NSW. I am hoping that he is moving behind the scenes while trying not to upset the horses on the far Left.

Perhaps I am being naive.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 13, 2023 7:34 pm

Have you noticed an uptick/upsurge in Climate Catastrophism?
Jo Nova has a piece about how the acceptance by populations of the COVID rules has made the climateers bolder. They have evidence that people will knuckle under to more and more control of their lives.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 7:39 pm

Cassie of Sydney

Dec 13, 2023 7:28 PM

There are a few names mentioned above that are NOT missed.

Steady on.
She has no right of reply.

calli
calli
December 13, 2023 7:42 pm

Chris Minns.

The Kinks summed him up.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 7:42 pm

Argentina’s new President, Javier Milei, is making headlines around the world for vowing to radically change Argentina’s failing political system.

Milei will have to be careful he doesn’t do a Campbell Newman. People are so innured to waste and mismanagement anything else looks radical. Especially in South America which has raised it to an art form.

Indolent
Indolent
December 13, 2023 7:43 pm
Bespoke
Bespoke
December 13, 2023 7:45 pm

But it really doesn’t matter whom you put upon the list
For they’d none of ’em be missed — they’d none of ’em be missed!

Not evan Ed?

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 13, 2023 7:47 pm

LEAKED: CEO of IBM Coerces Employees, Threatens to Cut Bonuses Unless They Discriminate in Hiring

He hates oldies. IBM is being sued in many US states for age discrimination

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 13, 2023 7:48 pm

That’s where I discovered all Muslims are the same” which is implied in all his comments.

Ultimately, they all sing off the same songsheet, the Koran

Ive read it, twice, including in Babylon, and taken notes , have you?

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 7:53 pm

It was me, Cassie, who defended Minns. I did so because I thought the actual words he spoke at the rally for Israel were quite incredible for a Labor politician. I agree that he needs to take his Police Minister aside with strict guidelines on how far “free speech” & the right to assemble is exercised in NSW. I am hoping that he is moving behind the scenes while trying not to upset the horses on the far Left.

Perhaps I am being naive”

Vicki, no, you’re not naive, you’re hopeful, there’s nothing wrong with that, but I’m right about Chris Minns, he’s a pretty puppet, used by the left to win the election back in March. If he was serious about Jew hatred, he’d censure people in his own party and he has not done this.

But that’s fine, next time the left attack a conservative politician for the sin and folly of wearing a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party in that conservative politician’s youth, the conservatives, instead of cowering and whimpering in the corner like they always do, instead of apologising like they always do, should instead grow a spine, stand up straight and point the finger back at Labor, the Greens and the left in general about the REAL NAZIS that infest the ALP and Greens.

On Monday night 2023, it wasn’t far-right lunatics that burnt an Israeli flag on the steps of the Sydney Opera House. On Monday night 2023, it wasn’t far-right lunatics that screamed, screeched and shouted “kill the Jews” and “gas the Jews” on the steps of the Sydney Opera House. No, it was a combination of Jew hating Muslims from Sydney’s western suburbs and Jew hating leftists, including the son of a current NSW Labor minister and a current staffer from Tania Plibersek’s office, a young man that Plibersek feebly made excuses for, saying he was “young” and had made a mistake.

Yeah, tell that to…

Lieutenant Colonel Tomer Grinberg, 35
Major Roei Meldasi, 23
Major Moshe Avram Bar-On, 23
Sergeant Achia Daskal, 19
Captain Liel Hayo, 22
Major Ben Shelly, 26
Major Rom Hecht, 20
Sergeant Oriya Yaakov, 19

who have laid down their YOUNG lives.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 13, 2023 7:53 pm

I tend to agree, but the problem is, the West has made the ‘mistake’ of seeding a sizeable, and growing, Islamic population into their midst.

Dr Duk – That’s moving the goal posts. I was answering you about how to deal with asymmetrical warfare.

The problem in Iraq and Afghanistan is the US stayed there. Us too, including your much persecuted self. If we’d all left there wouldn’t’ve been a problem. You have to be in range for a feral with an AK-47 to be a danger.

The better approach is to flatten everything then leave. If they don’t get the message the first time do it again. After a few repeats the head men decide that Friday isn’t an auspicious day to hijack an American Airlines jet. Or etc. They do rather dislike their stuff being MOABed.

In Afghanistan I’ve said a few times that what the US should’ve done is to build a reinforced concrete wall with watchtowers around every village in the country and give the head man a swag of AK’s and ammo and IR headpieces. That would’ve kept the Taliban from sneaking in after dark and doing what they did to insufficiently pious individuals.

But the US couldn’t do that since the regime in Kabul could not then control a thousand independent fortified villages who were armed to the teeth. But that’s what they should’ve done, since if the ordinary people could defy the Taliban there’d be no way a serious insurgency, not 9/11 style mass terrorism operation could be sustained.

The best answer to centralized fascist/theocratic government is decentralized armed-to-the-teeth local government, ie the Swiss model.

Muddy
Muddy
December 13, 2023 7:55 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha @ 7:31 PM

https://twitter.com/callme_murtaza/status/1734620825968394572

Pallywood strikes again!

That seems like a pretty decent lighting and makeup job.
We have a pro photographer here, right? Any thoughts about the lighting setup?

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 13, 2023 7:56 pm

I didn’t know Leigh Lowe was a chick.

rosie
rosie
December 13, 2023 7:57 pm

I don’t think the IDF are flattening everything though they are flattening everything they have linked to Hamasandco.

Zippster
Zippster
December 13, 2023 8:00 pm

“That’s where I discovered all Muslims are the same” which is implied in all his comments.

Ultimately, they all sing off the same songsheet, the Koran

Ive read it, twice, including in Babylon, and taken notes , have you?

here is the best version:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Abridged-Koran-Islamic-Trilogy/dp/0978552849/

verses put back in to order, repetition removed and historical context added. Everyone should read it

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 13, 2023 8:00 pm

I think Israel made a mistake in not putting out most of the atrocity footage.

Define “put out” in that context.
Unless it is on broadcast TV, only people who want to see the gore will see it.

I don’t think the choice is as clear cut as you make it.
(Language warning!)
Just reading a brief description saying that some women had been shot in both eye sockets was enough to conjure up a horrid image. I would not want to actually see that. Happy to invoke “chain of trust” principle and accept other people have seen the evidence – like it was secret intel or something.
The WW2 films of bodies being bulldozed into trenches wouldn’t have quite the same impact due to being grainy, B&W, and impersonal.
The other hazard is that it may be so unthinkably horrific that people will use that as the argument it is invented propaganda.

Perhaps this is merely why it should not be shown on broadcasts, but the chain-of-trust can be broadened by making it available for stream/download.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 13, 2023 8:01 pm

Biden Throws Israel Under the Bus in a Big Way – Says Israel Has to Change Its Approach, Government

The current Israeli government is a united war cabinet of parties from all sides of politics.

About the only ones dissenting are the far left and the Israeli Arabs.

Which says everything you need to know about the disgraceful cretin in the White House.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 8:04 pm

Not evan Ed?

Groog’s moments were few and far between. He was no Hammy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 13, 2023 8:09 pm

I don’t think the IDF are flattening everything though they are flattening everything they have linked to Hamasandco.

Rosie – It was mentioned this morning that between 58 and 71% (iirc) of northern Gaza has been functionally destroyed. Checking on the stories there’s a wide range of estimates about such things, but it’s clear the IDF is physically demolishing as much as they can. We had footage posted on the Cat of them taking down an undamaged building with a big backhoe a few weeks ago. Might even’ve been a tweet you linked, I can’t remember.

I would love that they could bulldoze every bit of building material into the Mediterranean Sea, but doing that for a city the size of Gaza is a very big logistical exercise. It will be interesting to see what compromise option they settle onto.

MatrixTransform
December 13, 2023 8:09 pm

… flatten everything then leave. If they don’t get the message the first time do it again.

now we’re getting somewhere

it’s my belief that part of the whole “Israel, you can’t do that” movement is nothing but a shaming play

world wide wanking

the answer should be, IMO, “yeah I can do that … and I will”

and I’ll keep doing it … until change comes from within and support for hamas to vapourises

soft power versus hard power

ugly but true

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 13, 2023 8:11 pm

Colonel Crispin Berka

Given to news agencies and “trusted bloggers” with just enough pixelation to try and hide identities where possible.
Plus a version placed on youtube.

Yes sickos will love it, no I wouldnt want to watch it myself, but in the hearts and minds battle Israel has effectively denied itself a powerful tool.

rosie
rosie
December 13, 2023 8:11 pm

That seems like a pretty decent lighting and makeup job.</blockquote
It's cheap AI, there are thousands of them.
They started off with piles of pretend dead IDF soldiers but they were so bad they seem to have given those up.
Now it's sad eyed children and kitties.

MatrixTransform
December 13, 2023 8:11 pm

I didn’t know Leigh Lowe was a chick

yep, pretty much completely dickless

cohenite
December 13, 2023 8:12 pm

Apparently the Australian Open will give 3rd nations a discount on tickets. I can see a few issues when the blue eyed rangas turn up demanding the discount.

Elsewhere that spitball of shit and farts capt cummins defends the first muzzie Australian cricketer, khawaja’s decision to wear pro-palli, pro hamas shoes. What a pair of retards.

Last but not least Australia’s life savers, all volunteers, have been directed by the woke bastard who runs Life Saving Australia to make sure they get the pronouns of the people who they are rescuing right.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 13, 2023 8:13 pm

You have no standing.
That chap isn’t missed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 13, 2023 8:14 pm

Form letters.
Not missed.

rosie
rosie
December 13, 2023 8:15 pm

It was mentioned this morning that between 58 and 71

That doesn’t negate my point that the IDF are only targeting hamas infrastructure. I didn’t say there wasn’t an awful lot of it.
And of course if Hamas choose to take over an otherwise innocent building to fight from, it then becomes a legitimate target.

Muddy
Muddy
December 13, 2023 8:15 pm

This is the most I can stomach:

Body of Israeli Hostage Killed in Gaza Used by Hamas in Disturbing Propaganda Video [GRAPHIC]

That these type of videos are made, indicates that h@m@s is not simply occupied with defending ‘their territory and their people.’

rosie
rosie
December 13, 2023 8:16 pm
Roger
Roger
December 13, 2023 8:17 pm

Milei will have to be careful he doesn’t do a Campbell Newman.

We’ll see. I think the Argentinians realise they’ve run out of OPM & their options are limited.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 8:18 pm

and I’ll keep doing it … until change comes from within and support for hamas to vapourises

Arguably the UN process has prevented parties (predominantly countries) from “winning” wars for some time. The defeat of the Tamil Tigers is the most recent exception I can think of. It sets the scene for permanent monitoring and peacekeeping.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 13, 2023 8:20 pm

flyingduk
Dec 13, 2023 6:37 PM
You have expanded on your thesis, but still have NOT come up with even the hint of a positive future strategy for the survival of the population of Israel in the future you envision. If it’s too hard, just say so

What part of ‘I dont see how Israel can survive, long term’ is unclear to you?… IMHO there is no ‘positive future’, I dont just believe its too hard, absent a reformation of Islam, I think its impossible.

You are still NOT addressing the survival of the Israeli people. If you are convinced that Israel as a nation is doomed, what happens to the current population? Are they expected, a la Goldfinger, to die? Or should there be a plan to move them elsewhere? Or have you decided that the whole non-Muslim world is doomed anyway, so the timing of the deaths is insignificant?

It is, to me, an essential follow on to your conclusion, yet you seem unwilling to address it. Why?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 8:23 pm

Can anyone explain to me why Channel Ten is defending the Lehrmann action?
They have that uber-idiot Llewellyn on tape admitting two critical things.
Identification of Lehrmann. I initially thought Ten might – just maybe – be able to build a defence around the fact that they specifically didn’t name Lehrmann.
However, today we here the tape of Llewellyn telling Britnah and Fatso Sharaz that it would be dead easy to figure out who it was. In fact, Ten added a critical snippet to The Perject report that Sam Maiden did not include in her report earlier in the day. That is, that the accused staffer “transferred with Reynolds from her previous portfolio”. The number of men who transferred with Reynolds? Precisely one … Lehrmann.
Reckless Disregard for Defamation Law. Again, Llewellyn is on tape telling the Exuding Power Couple not to worry about defamation because Lehrmann’s character would be tarnished by being labelled a rapist. Remember, there was no certainty a criminal complaint would be made or charges laid at this point. So how could Llewellyn be certain that Lehrmann’s reputation be tarnished? Unless he knew that Lehrmann’s name would make it’s way into the public domain.
In my opinion, Ten is screwed and I don’t know why they are pursuing it. It’s not as if they are doing it to placate their star recruit, Cane Toad.

bons
bons
December 13, 2023 8:24 pm

Rabz,

Yep, the Sky idiot was bursting her stays trying to turn a sunshower into a holocaust.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 8:29 pm

Real Deal

Dec 13, 2023 7:56 PM

I didn’t know Leigh Lowe was a chick.

I am just going on the feminine spelling of “Leigh”.
And certainly very, very bitchy.

C.L.
C.L.
December 13, 2023 8:32 pm

Liz Storer stunning in red.

C.L.
C.L.
December 13, 2023 8:33 pm

Ten is screwed

Looks like it.

More cash for Brucie.

How much, though?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 13, 2023 8:34 pm

apparently Israel has a plan for Gaza.

Mark Regev is very well plugged into the government from what I can tell, as well as being an Israeli Aussie. And a righty! I wish we had guys like him here.

Muddy
Muddy
December 13, 2023 8:36 pm

rosie
Dec 13, 2023 8:11 PM
It’s cheap AI, there are thousands of them.

My point was that the quality of the photograph made it obvious it was staged. Not that the intent behind the image has any relevance to the active sympathisers and enablers.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 8:36 pm

We’ll see. I think the Argentinians realise they’ve run out of OPM & their options are limited.

They could be tucking in to boiled flamingos like the Venezuelans and still be looking for a handout. I suspect we have a possibly divergent view of human nature. Didn’t take long in either Queensland or post Kennett Victoriastan.

MatrixTransform
December 13, 2023 8:39 pm

Arguably the UN …

the UN are always “assuming the sale”

what if it just aint so ?

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 8:39 pm

I was surprised at that – even though I adore Israel myself, though it is decades since I was there. They loved the people, the history & the general feel of the place. The youthfulness of the place, ironically, seemed to also appeal.

I only went along because the SP, a lapsed Roman Catholic, has a deep interest in biblical history. Why, who knows?

It is now firmly my #1 travel destination. One of the most dynamic, deeply interesting, friendly and joyful places I’ve ever been to.

The amazing history that surrounds it was a much appreciated bonus.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 8:41 pm

More cash for Brucie.
How much, though?

Less than $2.4m.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 13, 2023 8:42 pm

They could be tucking in to boiled flamingos like the Venezuelans

Careful HB. The Venezuelans are currently getting all colonial-imperialist about Guyana. And Mr Milei is likewise coveting the Falklands. South Americans really like squirrels, if they can get ’em without having their navy sunk.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 13, 2023 8:43 pm

Some chick quoting some American bloke that Die Hard is not a Christmas movie. Never heard such hogwash.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 13, 2023 8:44 pm

Daily Telegraph by the way

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 8:44 pm

feelthebern

Dec 13, 2023 8:14 PM

Form letters.
Not missed.

Shit that was funny.
People with “lived experience” in Victoria writing individual letters to upper house members.
“No, no!” cries the troubadour. “You need to use this letter!” (Heavily laced with TrAiTOr and SovCit gibberish).
Clueless that pollies offices will quickly sort form letters (either physically or electronically) and fire back a vanilla form response.

Winston Smith
December 13, 2023 8:44 pm

Calli:
A line from Stephen Kings “The Stand” where the old negro woman has to walk several miles to catch and bring back some chooks from a farm and she was daunted by the effort it would take – came to mind on reading Delta A’s words:
“God provides strength, not taxicabs.”
…and so, she put on her best walking shoes, a shawl against the sun and a solid walking stick and set off.

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 8:44 pm

I know Mark Regev personally. He’s not a “righty”, he’s a centrist.

Roger
Roger
December 13, 2023 8:47 pm

Didn’t take long in either Queensland or post Kennett Victoriastan.

We’ve never seen 100% inflation or 50%+ interest rates.

That has a way of focusing the mind, I would imagine.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 8:48 pm

stephen rice stephen rice
Lisa Wilkinson faces uphill battle in quest for redemption

8:07PM December 13, 2023

If Lisa Wilkinson is hoping for redemption, she faces an uphill battle.

The TV presenter will step into the witness box on Thursday to testify in the defamation case Bruce Lehrmann has brought against her and Network 10.

After the disaster of her Logies speech, which humiliated her and delayed Lehrmann’s criminal trial for three months, this is Wilkinson’s moment.

It is also a pivotal moment in the defamation trial.

Wilkinson will not be trying to prove Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins. That part of the trial – the truth defence – is over. And while each side has scored blows against the other, it’s fair to say there has been no knock-out punch.

If Justice Michael Lee, presiding over the trial, is unable to come to a firm conclusion over the truth of the claims, Wilkinson and her former colleagues at the network will have to rely on the defence of qualified privilege – that is, that they did everything in their power to act reasonably and fairly in preparing the program.

That defence has faced a strong challenge over the last two days as Lehrmann’s counsel, Matthew Richardson SC, has probed the conduct of Wilkinson’s producer, Angus Llewellyn.

On Tuesday, Llewellyn had trouble explaining why The Project team so readily accepted Higgins’ claims that photo of a bruise on her leg was evidence of the alleged rape.

On Wednesday the producer was under fire over the program’s dramatic opening statement that it was the story of a rape and “a young woman forced to choose between her career and the pursuit of justice”.

In an early part of Wilkinson’s interview, Higgins says Linda Reynolds and her chief of staff, Fiona Brown, had been supportive of her going to the police, but later in the interview claims she was told “we’re not going to stop you, but you just don’t have a job.”

Llewellyn denied Higgins’ account was “riddled with inconsistencies”.

But the most dangerous moments for Llewellyn came at the hands of Justice Lee himself.

When Richardson suggested there was no proof Higgins had been told she would lose her job, Llewellyn responded that “it’s murky, opaque territory”.

Justice Michael Lee interjected: “Are you saying that at the time the program was broadcast you had – to use your words – no proof of that allegation that she was being told that if she proceeded with police charges that she’d lose her job?

After several requests from the judge to answer the question, Llewellyn agreed he didn’t have proof.

Later the judge again interjected, over Llewellyn’s denial that Higgins’ fiance, David Sharaz, had a political agenda, despite saying the pair wanted to break the story in time for parliamentary sitting week and that his friend, Labor’s Katy Gallagher, would “probe” the issue in Question Time.

Richardson had asked Llewellyn: “You knew that Mr Sharaz intended to assist the then opposition in pursuing this story in parliament, correct?”

“Maybe,” Mr Llewellyn responded.

Justice Michael Lee interjected: “Is that a serious answer?” and went on to remind the witness he was giving sworn testimony.

Wilkinson will come under equally sharp scrutiny on Thursday over the session, in which she and Higgins war-gamed how to recruit prominent politicians and media figures who could help give ­momentum to their upcoming ­interview.

Wilkinson will certainly be asked about her comment: “I’ve so got Linda Reynolds in my sights now.”

She may also be asked about the tantalisingly headlined, but as yet unexplored, series of emails she exchanged with Sharaz headed “# MeToo Liberal Party Project Pitch”.

Llewellyn was asked several times whether he had told Wilkinson about developments in the lead-up to broadcast, including whether he had passed on information that contradicted Higgins’ claims that she had been unsupported by Reynolds’ chief of staff, Fiona Brown.

Lehrmann’s lawyers will seek to probe any discrepancies between the accounts of Wilkinson and her Channel 10 colleagues.

Wilkinson has hired her own legal team, headed by top defamation silk Sue Chrysanthou, to represent her in the proceedings, after dumping Ten’s lawyers in the apparent belief they would not adequately protect her interests.

On Thursday, Chrysanthou – after taking a back seat for much of the proceedings – will finally get to earn her fee

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
December 13, 2023 8:49 pm

I fail to understand how bike lanes encourage anyone to go out to dinner or shop in the CBD, no-one over 25 is going to cycle home at 11pm with a new dining suite. Hence the eating places and stores are closing down and moving out. How can they not see this?

Living as I do in the next worst thing to the CBD (PDR Yarrastan), I am well placed to explain this approach.

They have decided to end the Stone Age by banning rocks.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 8:51 pm

Didn’t follow the day’s Brittany proceedings. Teh Paywallian reports make it sound like a shocker. It must be 50:50 whether this doesn’t settle before concluding.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
December 13, 2023 8:53 pm

Muddy
Dec 13, 2023 8:36 PM
rosie
Dec 13, 2023 8:11 PM
It’s cheap AI, there are thousands of them.

My point was that the quality of the photograph made it obvious it was staged. Not that the intent behind the image has any relevance to the active sympathisers and enablers.

It was photoshopped. Have a look at the child’s hand. I know inbreeding is a thing in muzzie circles…….

rosie
rosie
December 13, 2023 8:54 pm
Real Deal
Real Deal
December 13, 2023 8:54 pm

I am just going on the feminine spelling of “Leigh”.
And certainly very, very bitchy.

Yeah, I don’t know what she did to upset Matrix upthread either, but he doesn’t seem to fondly remember her. Pity. Perhaps its just as well she doesn’t post anymore.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 8:55 pm

H B Bear

Dec 13, 2023 8:41 PM

More cash for Brucie.
How much, though?

Less than $2.4m.

Much as that would be poetic justice, no, it won’t be anything like that.
If he wins, my lotto guess is $600-$800k plus costs.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 13, 2023 8:56 pm

I noticed upthread that SP was asking after LL…

There once was a bloke named Leigh Lowe
Who’s been missed in the bantering flow,
But don’t worry too much
He’s not out of touch
His moniker’s changed its logo.

So who is Leigh Lowe at the mo?
He’s picked out a literary joe,
La Mancha is home,
With his Don he does roam,
But he doesn’t go that far from home.

MatrixTransform
December 13, 2023 8:56 pm

… she doesn’t post anymore

poor mole, I wonder what happened to her

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 8:58 pm

Roger, the Argies have been going backwards since the 1930s. As a commentator has previously noted the only thing that might stop them is loss of access to international debt markets. The Econtalk podcast had an episode how the locals adapt to persistently high inflation. As Australians we take most of this for granted and would not fare as well I expect.

rosie
rosie
December 13, 2023 8:59 pm

It’s not photoshop it’s an AI generated image.
here’s a classic that was shared by Gerry Adams

Alamak!
Alamak!
December 13, 2023 8:59 pm

If you are convinced that Israel as a nation is doomed, what happens to the current population? Are they expected, a la Goldfinger, to die? Or should there be a plan to move them elsewhere?

Start spreading the news … NY, NY.

And to be a bit less glib, does anyone doubt the USA would accept Israelis (Jews & others) if there was a need? It would probably increase the average IQ by several points for a start

Crossie
Crossie
December 13, 2023 8:59 pm

It’s a feature, not a bug, of the modern Western left, which wants us living in cold mountain caves.

The simple truth is that there aren’t enough caves to shelter us all. You can only fit so many people into Jenolan Caves, Wombeyan Caves, Yarangobilly Caves et al.

Figures
Figures
December 13, 2023 9:01 pm

I suspect we have a possibly divergent view of human nature. Didn’t take long in either Queensland or post Kennett Victoriastan.

It’s because right wing leaders try and govern for everybody rather than isolate and persecute their enemies.

If we start having blackouts, any conservative government that focuses load shedding on Green/Teal electorates will get 90% of the vote.

It’s astonishing really because a conservative government only needs to give left wing voters what they say they want and there would cease to be left wing voters.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 9:03 pm

For the record, the $2.4m figure wasn’t a personal estimate, nor chosen at random.

Crossie
Crossie
December 13, 2023 9:03 pm

CBD looks increasingly just like a dormitory for the ever expanding University of a Melbourne and it’s subsidiaries.
We were looking up at the buildings today and trying to figure out which were residential and which commercial.
The cov has done lord knows what to the commercial properties.
Retail frontages were mostly Chinese restaurants or Asian groceries.

Arky, I noticed the same in November last year when I visited Melbourne CBD. It reminded me of some parts of Singapore.

Winston Smith
December 13, 2023 9:04 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Dec 13, 2023 5:45 PM
12 gauge from a distance of about 5 metres should do the trick.
Sharpened posthole shovel, if a 12 gauge isn’t an option.

We’ve had this conversation before.
2 metres of fencing wire braided 3 times. Belt ‘im across the back.
Bruce Pascoe recommends except effing whitey destroyed all the fencing wire factories at Botany Bay – only inferior whitey stuff available.

Alamak!
Alamak!
December 13, 2023 9:05 pm

We’ve never seen 100% inflation or 50%+ interest rates.

That has a way of focusing the mind, I would imagine.

Saw 20,000% inflation in Bolivia. Its quite a shock to see stray bank notes lying in the street & not worth picking up while one USD$ buys a brick of notes.

Also money changers outside every bar/restaurant/cafe who change from USD to local so you can pay at the start because it costs more by the time you get to desert & coffee.

Mad Monetary Theory in action.

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 9:07 pm

Not evan Ed?

Marginally better than MontyPox but it’s a close run thing. Ed does occasionally post something that makes sense.

I even upticked him once.

Figures
Figures
December 13, 2023 9:08 pm

If he wins, my lotto guess is $600-$800k plus costs.

It will be in the millions. Channel 10 will need to be seen to be punished for destroying a man with zero due diligence or even genuine right of reply.

Astonishing they haven’t settled. What are their lawyers thinking telling them to keep going? These are the sorts of trials that could effectively end the career of a KC.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
December 13, 2023 9:10 pm

Have a look at the child’s hand.

What is it with AI generated images and the incessant need to have an extra finger?

Serious question. I mean, it’s (groan all you will, it’s too late now!) handy for picking fakes, but why?

Petros
Petros
December 13, 2023 9:10 pm

Des Deskperson.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 9:12 pm

Unis are a double edged sword for cities. Notre Dame has basically swallowed the West End of Fremantle and City of Perth making much of ECU opening a campus in Northbridge. The buildings remain well preserved and used but there is a serious crowding out effect. Hospital precincts have a similar effect.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 9:15 pm

If Justice Michael Lee, presiding over the trial, is unable to come to a firm conclusion over the truth of the claims, Wilkinson and her former colleagues at the network will have to rely on the defence of qualified privilege – that is, that they did everything in their power to act reasonably and fairly in preparing the program.

Fairly and reasonably, you say?
How is that going?

That defence has faced a strong challenge over the last two days as Lehrmann’s counsel, Matthew Richardson SC, has probed the conduct of Wilkinson’s producer, Angus Llewellyn.

Oh.
That.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 9:16 pm

Real Deal

Dec 13, 2023 8:54 PM

I am just going on the feminine spelling of “Leigh”.
And certainly very, very bitchy.

Yeah, I don’t know what she did to upset Matrix upthread either, but he doesn’t seem to fondly remember her. Pity. Perhaps its just as well she doesn’t post anymore.

Prickly bitch.
Jeez, how would you go being married to that?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 13, 2023 9:17 pm

I know Mark Regev personally. He’s not a “righty”, he’s a centrist.

😀

Cassie – you and I are so righty we think Margaret Thatcher is a bit wet. Mark was spokesman for Bibi for a very long time. I loved his stuff. Now he’s in charge of a think tank, but he’s doing fine service for his country as an emeritus spokesguy.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 13, 2023 9:18 pm

Confused Old Misfit

Bluey
Bluey
December 13, 2023 9:18 pm

Crossie
Dec 13, 2023 9:03 PM
CBD looks increasingly just like a dormitory for the ever expanding University of a Melbourne and it’s subsidiaries.
We were looking up at the buildings today and trying to figure out which were residential and which commercial.
The cov has done lord knows what to the commercial properties.
Retail frontages were mostly Chinese restaurants or Asian groceries.

Arky, I noticed the same in November last year when I visited Melbourne CBD. It reminded me of some parts of Singapore.

When I worked there a couple of decades ago, the uni of Melbourne pretty much owned everything within a couple of blocks of the actual campus one way or another. I don’t imagine it would’ve changed much, unless they’d acquired more.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 13, 2023 9:18 pm

ABCess.
Show called ” Australian Epic”

David ” I’ll eat ALL the cocks” Marr..
Waffling about ” musical” about Tampa.
Play some of the tunes mocking the navy…

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcnWk0C8d7jRd5Yvfm1X-B5IOuLbaMFHqA6g&usqp=CAU

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 13, 2023 9:21 pm

Nick
Fat Tony

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 13, 2023 9:22 pm

Confused Old Misfit

And Stimpy. I miss Stimpy a lot, he was fun.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 13, 2023 9:22 pm

You would have thought Mincing Marr would have been a fan of “In the Navy”?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

P
P
December 13, 2023 9:26 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer,

I finally got to send you some pics of Dr Who. Were you able to open them?

Alamak!
Alamak!
December 13, 2023 9:27 pm

It must be 50:50 whether this doesn’t settle before concluding.

This ship appears to be going under and may drag down several protagonists with it.

I am still waiting for the faire damsel to shriek in distress and faint away in court like the wronged, performative maiden she has been playing until now. Possibly it will happen when Lisa dumps on her in Court tomorrow.

Popcorn and drinks at the ready for a big day in Court.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 13, 2023 9:27 pm

That’s where I discovered all Muslims are the same” which is implied in all his comments.

Ultimately, they all sing off the same songsheet, the Koran

Having a mind hung up on stereotypes was pointed out in earlier assessments of your opions. Your views are stories about cardboard caricatures. You’re unable to respond to questions from others asking what Israelis should do in your tightly scripted single theme scenario because a variation of your story line would entail amending your stereotype charicatures.

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 9:29 pm

My very best wishes, calli, to you and yours as you farewell your beloved Dad tomorrow. Praying that the Almighty provides you with much strength for successful peacekeeping.

In my experience it’s not so much about learning to live without them, but about finding our way to live within the love they have left behind.

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 9:29 pm

Firstly, I am not “so righty”.

Secondly, I know Mark’s history, and I know he worked for Bibi but he’s no “righty”.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 13, 2023 9:30 pm

Serious question. I mean, it’s (groan all you will, it’s too late now!) handy for picking fakes, but why?
I think it’s a deliberate sop, a get-out-of-jail clause which does not detract from the immediate impact.
That’s why the make-believe birds in pixelcuties.com have extra limbs… but never extra nostrils
*DO NOT click this link, it is a glimpse of damnation.

Crossie
Crossie
December 13, 2023 9:31 pm

Indolent
Dec 13, 2023 7:32 PM
Are Hordes Of Military-Age Chinese Men Being Brought Into The United States In An Attempt To Destabilize Our Society?

I wonder how many of them think they have a better chance of getting married in the US than China.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 9:32 pm

Motelier?

Megan
Megan
December 13, 2023 9:32 pm

I don’t imagine it would’ve changed much, unless they’d acquired more.l

They’ve acquired a hell of a lot more. It’s the reason I figure they don’t need any alumni donations from me. I fling the never ending stream of begging letters* into the round filing cabinet in the corner.

*Also a waste of good money.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 13, 2023 9:39 pm

Petros Dec 13, 2023 9:10 PM
Des Deskperson.

Mr. Deskperson beat a retreat from Catallaxy sometime during the great covid-19 fiasco.
The departure may not have been entirely amicable.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 9:40 pm

US seeks Australian help to protect ships in Red Sea as Middle East tensions soar

exclusive
By cameron stewart
Chief International Correspondent
@camstewarttheoz
9:25PM December 13, 2023
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The US Navy has asked Australia to send a warship to the Red Sea as part of an expanded international task force, in response to growing attacks on shipping by Iran-backed militia that are threatening vital global sea lanes.

The move, under consideration by the Albanese government, would mark a major escalation in Australia’s response to the unfolding crisis in the Middle East and reflect fears the conflict could become a region-wide war.

Any Australian warship sent to the Red Sea in this crisis would be entering a hot war zone where it could easily find itself fired upon and forced to fire back amid a volatile and fast-changing security situation.

The US request came as the government toughened its stance on Israel’s war with Hamas in Gaza by breaking from Washington and voting for a UN resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire despite the resolution failing to recognise Hamas’s role in the October 7 massacre of 1200 Israelis.

The move was criticised by Israel and by Jewish groups, with ­Israel’s ambassador to Australia Amir Maimon saying: “I find it difficult to understand how Australia can support Israel’s right to defend its people from terrorist aggression, while also voting in support of a ceasefire that will embolden Hamas and enable it to resume its attacks on Israelis.”

C.L.
C.L.
December 13, 2023 9:42 pm

Any Australian warship sent to the Red Sea in this crisis would be entering a hot war zone where it could easily find itself fired upon and forced to fire back amid a volatile and fast-changing security situation.

Good Lord. That’s not what the ADF is for.

The recruitment ads say it’s about women playing rugby at Duntroon and stuff.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 9:50 pm

The recruitment ads say it’s about women playing rugby at Duntroon and stuff.

I’m remembering the ad that proclaimed “MY Army gives me all the time I want with my children.”

Back in the days when the A.D.F. was a mildly alcoholic gang of heavily armed sex maniacs, one of the ouens put in for compassionate leave, because his wife was due to give birth, and he wanted to be there to support her.

He was told he had been present at the conception of said child, and that was enough….

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 13, 2023 9:50 pm

Crash Craddock:

Cricket is mired in confusion and conflict and Usman Khawaja’s sanctioned shoes are the embodiment of the struggle.

On one hand players are allowed to take a knee to support the Black Lives Matter movement but when Khawaja wanted to wear boots with the message All Lives Matter he was deemed out of order.

Australia wouldn’t play Afghanistan in a series because of the way it treats women but was happy to play them in the World Cup.

Sometimes politics matters. Other times it doesn’t.

Khawaja was banned by Australia from wearing shoes which supported Palestinians trapped in the Gaza war.

In the end he didn’t need to wear them to get his point across. The publicity he received when they were spotted the previous day at training did the trick.

Had he felt truly committed to wearing them in a game he made a mistake by writing the messages early and taking the shoes to training.

Had he walked out to bat in the shoes on day one he would probably been fined but his message would have reached its widest audience.

In retrospect, Khawaja should have backed his cause by speaking publicly about it such was the sensitivity of the issue rather than let his skipper Pat Cummins face the cameras and negotiate some challenging terrain.

The backstory to Khawaja’s stance started long before anyone had ever heard of him as a cricketer. Khawaja always had deep-seated feelings about racial equality.

As a Pakistani-born, proudly Muslim immigrant to western Sydney, he had his own stories to tell about racism and inequality at school, in cricket and in life.

Nothing that should be compared to the atrocities in Gaza but experiences which nonetheless made him a passionate and unshackled voice on racial equality.

For many years he kept his most inner thoughts well away from public view but in the final stages of his career he has decided to let more water flow out of the dam.

If he feels strongly about something he will let the world know.

Australia often laments the lack of characters in sport and that athletes are taught to say nothing.

Khawaja is happy to break the mould but his price for being so bold this time was a dramatic 20 hour period when an angry ICC called Cricket Australia to reinforce their objection to his plan.

The long arm of the law closed in on Khawaja who had little option to abandon his plan, perhaps taking away the consolation of knowing that he still got his message across.

Yep he’s right. The message has been delivered so the Pakistani Prick doesn’t have to do fark all with his shoes. Damage is done.
Now what if there was a bloke in the side who had such strident views on Israel? A Star Of David emblazoned on the shoes?
I well remember a Jewish footy player, Sheezel for Norf Melbourne being celebrated with a flag being flown. Were a few callers into talk back radio voicing their disgust at the politicisation.
Can’t pick and choose the outrage Crash. One or the other.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 13, 2023 9:50 pm

P, yes. And I for you!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 13, 2023 9:50 pm

This is special….

marquelawyers
@marquelawyers
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The difference between “All lives are equal” and “All lives matter” is racism, if you were wondering

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 13, 2023 9:51 pm

Secondly, I know Mark’s history, and I know he worked for Bibi but he’s no “righty”.

He’s worked for the Israeli Trump for what, a couple decades? Heh.

I have great admiration for Mr Regev. His repartee with the species homo journalistii was a marvel to observe and enjoy, with popcorn.

Muddy
Muddy
December 13, 2023 9:52 pm

rosie
Dec 13, 2023 9:01 PM

Draw me a war: How AI fakes Israel’s war against Hamas
The use of AI image generators has become increasingly popular and now supporters of Hamas are taking advantage of it to try and display a false reality to the world

Very interesting. Thanks.
(I had thought I was a somewhat discerning viewer (lighting, shadows, the shape and direction of smears on the face), but I didn’t even notice the fingers on the child’s hand, even though Perplexed told me to look there! We see what we want to see, don’t we?).

I am appreciating your flow of Twatter/X posts, thank you Rosie.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 9:53 pm

Geriatric Mayfly.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 13, 2023 9:57 pm

Alamak!
Dec 13, 2023 8:59 PM
If you are convinced that Israel as a nation is doomed, what happens to the current population? Are they expected, a la Goldfinger, to die? Or should there be a plan to move them elsewhere?

Start spreading the news … NY, NY.

And to be a bit less glib, does anyone doubt the USA would accept Israelis (Jews & others) if there was a need? It would probably increase the average IQ by several points for a start

I am trying, with no success, to get Dok Duk to answer the logical flow-on question after his statement that Israel has no secure long term future.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 13, 2023 10:00 pm

Astonishing they haven’t settled. What are their lawyers thinking telling them to keep going? These are the sorts of trials that could effectively end the career of a KC.

Nope. its standard practice: milk the mark for as much as possible, telling them they are winning, then switch stories at the last minute to ‘you need to settle this’.

MatrixTransform
December 13, 2023 10:02 pm

when duk speaks, I don’t hear ” Israel has no secure long term future”

at all

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 13, 2023 10:03 pm

Brisvegas. George Street, to be precise.

Derros on most corners, although not as bad as Perth CBD. Too early to tell if they’re all Poms as well.

Zippster
Zippster
December 13, 2023 10:03 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 10:04 pm

I’m remembering the ad that proclaimed “MY Army gives me all the time I want with my children.”

That ad sticks in the mind – the first time I saw it, was the day I collected my Gold Card from the Post Office…

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 13, 2023 10:05 pm

None, Hearken Now!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 13, 2023 10:06 pm

GreyRanga, earlier:

No, I will not be sampling the ‘delights’ of the ex-Mrs KD. That poisonous swamp donkey has since relocated to Rockhampton or Gladstone or some other CQ hellhole.

In any event, the proper question would be to ask whether she would be enjoying my delights.

To which the answer would still be no. Although and to be fair, if she was within range I might have pegged a few rocks at it.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 13, 2023 10:06 pm

Bowen ‘forgot he wasn’t in Australia’ giving Welcome to Country in Dubai

Watch out when Blackout Bowen begins treating your country as his own. He’ll be destabilising the UAE’s power grid next.

Zippster
Zippster
December 13, 2023 10:06 pm

marquelawyers
@marquelawyers
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2h
The difference between “All lives are equal” and “All lives matter” is racism, if you were wondering

say what?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 13, 2023 10:07 pm

Zippster
Dec 13, 2023 10:03 PM

Why won’t our intelligence agencies investigate the origins of the coronavirus?

Because they knew all along and none of them got the jab.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 13, 2023 10:07 pm

I also wish to note my appreciation at this juncture for the posters who maintained updates on the latest Brih-nee saga.

Extremely informative. And funny. Thank you.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 13, 2023 10:09 pm

I am trying, with no success, to get Dok Duk to answer the logical flow-on question after his statement that Israel has no secure long term future.

And you are refusing to accept my answer: I don’t have a solution for this that includes the survival of Israel – given they need to win *every* battle to survive, forever, in a world where they rely on western support, which is fading – at some point they lose and Israel goes away. The forces arrayed against them are simply too strong and too persistent. Why do you thing I am obliged to conjure up a solution that ignores that? At some point, IHMHO sooner rather than later, Israel loses its struggle for existence.

Israel has only existed as a nation since 1948, jews will persist after Israel doesn’t – unless they pull the Sampson option – it was ever thus.

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 10:14 pm

I know Mark Regev, but that doesn’t count in BoN’s mind.

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 10:17 pm

at some point they lose and Israel goes away.

And that’s what the crank wants, for Israel to “go away”.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 13, 2023 10:19 pm

You are still NOT addressing the survival of the Israeli people. If you are convinced that Israel as a nation is doomed, what happens to the current population?

Do I really have to spell it out? If Israel is overwhelmed, they either move or live as dhimmis or die.

Pop quiz: what happened to the Jewish population of Iran, Egypt, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon etc etc after they became Islamic nations?

PS: I have worked in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait and Indonesia…

Cassie of Sydney
December 13, 2023 10:19 pm

Hear this….

Israel will never go away

Despite what cranks, loons and anti-Semites want to happen.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 13, 2023 10:20 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to you mob. I’m pouring myself the first Lagavulin 16 year old I’ve had in some time.

I’m in my local grogshop this morning. Parking is at a premium. Car pulls up, taking up two parking spaces. Driver, and passenger, both morbidly obese, alight – they need two spaces to give them enough space to get out of the car…

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 13, 2023 10:20 pm

On Thursday, Chrysanthou – after taking a back seat for much of the proceedings – will finally get to earn her fee

After Llewellyn threw himself and his employer under the bus, one might suspect Chrysanthou’s job would be relatively straightforward. That might significantly depend on whether her client is motivated by self preservation or redemption.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 13, 2023 10:24 pm

Chrysanthou wants to call Cash & Reynolds CoS.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 13, 2023 10:26 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Dec 13, 2023 10:07 PM

I also wish to note my appreciation at this juncture for the posters who maintained updates on the latest Brih-nee saga.

Extremely informative. And funny. Thank you.

I texted a retired police prosecutor I know earlier today with the link …
“Have you ever had a witness implode in the box? Get a load of this bloke.”
His one word reply at stumps … “Fark!!”

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