Open Thread – Mon 18 Dec 2023


The pilot’s jetty, Le Havre, Camille Pissarro, 1903

1,394 responses to “Open Thread – Mon 18 Dec 2023”

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  1. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Am a Catholic and, on the contrary, think the sedevacantists have a few (misguided) points.

    Only in regard to Vatican II, Lys.

  2. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Johnny Rotten
    Dec 19, 2023 7:06 PM
    So, where is the evidence of being a crook? Where is it? You Tosser. Where is it?

    And This Poster does not like ‘ Junior Cretin’. So tell me why not..

    Maybe because Junior Cretin puts money into the Blog.

  3. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    They’re one and the same, internecine conflict notwithstanding.

    That’s right Bushie and Israel have already announced they will not negotiate with them re Biden’s proposal. The Times of Israel is a reasonable source for info which I read a lot and I always take note of what Israeli TV journalist Caroline Glick has to say. Plus Melanie Phillips.

  4. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    Interesting to see how an additional 10 days per journey affects not only the oil business but goods delivery in the short term.

    Indeed – hence why “although perhaps a little more than annoyance.

    At the most efficient freight rate, a VLCC carrying 2 million barrels currently charters at US$90k to $100k/day – so the extra journey time costs around US$1 million – or 50¢/bbl landed.

    Considerably more for smaller carriers.

    So, not nothing – but not like a million bbl/d taken out of the market.

  5. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Man, I’m seriously thinking of becoming Jewish! I have the Shemma on my front door, on my gold ring, I pray Jewish psalms everyday and even a kippah! ?”

    No piggy allowed, no shellfish, no milk and meat, separate pots and utensils for meat and dairy. And the biggest thing, if you’re not circumcised, you will have to be circumcised as an adult male.

    I have a friend, who now lives in Israel (he’s married to an Israeli girl). He converted over thirty years ago, he was the son of a Jew (who died when he was young) and he was brought up a Christian by his mother. Alas, he was not circumcised as a baby so when he decided to convert, after much study and living a Jewish life, he had to be circumcised in a hospital by a doctor and then…..wait for it…..when he went before the Beth Din (all men) for his final test he had to drop his pants for them to make sure that his foreskin was gonski!

    LOL. Are ya sure you wanna convert?

  6. Black Ball Avatar
    Black Ball

    I missed this from Terry McCrann. A fine evisceration from 10 days ago:

    These are the two days in December that should tell all Australians they’d better move from alertness to alarm and to prepare for anything but a Happy New Year.

    On Wednesday, we learned that the economy had slowed all-but to a stop and was sliding towards recession – arguably, it was already there, in per-head terms – even despite the tens of billions of dollars being thrown at it by massive government spending and half-a-million migrants pouring into the country over the past year.

    Disturbingly, that reality was a surprise to all the experts – from Treasury and the Reserve Bank down; and, trust me, down goes a long, long way when you are talking ‘experts’.

    OK, but at least our political leadership is on top of this and immediately sprang into action?

    Did I say it was time to switch the dial to alarm? Maybe, dial that up to panic.

    On the very same Wednesday, we had the prime minister – on one of his rare visits down under – sunning himself, literally, broad-hat and tieless shirt, at the cricket.

    Oh well, all that international flying really is a tough gig. Even in Air Kanga One.

    And while the prime ministerial cat, so to speak, was away – mentally if not, mostly, physically – all the mice otherwise known as cabinet ministers, were at play.

    The minister for destroying our energy system, Chris Bowen, was also literally sunning himself in Dubai, along with close to 100,000 other carbon dioxide-belching fellow, literally, travellers, plotting to accelerate the destruction.

    Bowen’s like some literary invention of a horror fiction writer. Except of course he’s real, and his malevolence is exactly matched by his bottomless stupidity.

    Mice numbers two and three are the hapless and hopeless duo of Clare O’Neil and Andrew Giles.

    The best thing that can be said about them is at least they aren’t embarked on directly trying to destroy the economy.

    That ambition’s left to mouse number four: the dishonestly titled employment minister Tony Burke.

    In a sane, slightly less stupid world, you really wouldn’t credit it: that on the very day after we got the sobering GDP numbers, flashing all sorts of warning lights, Burke sealed his deal with the two out-there senators to seriously damage business and job prospects.

    Minerals Council chief Tania Constable summed Burke’s deal up: it declared war on the Australian resources sector.

    The destruction of jobs and of businesses actually goes much wider and deeper, but just think about this fundamental – or rather, foundational, for the Albanese government – stupidity.

    The entire Australian life rests on the export earnings of the resources industry.

    Without we’d have a federal budget that looked like Victoria’s, indeed worse than Victoria’s.

    We’d have a dollar at US20c. We’d have inflation like Argentina’s.

    And here we have a government, a completely out-of-control minister – like all his colleagues – declaring war on it.

    Oh yes, and then there’s mouse number five: the Treasurer Jim Chalmers; the man who should be corralling the other mice while the cat’s (permanently) away.

    What’s the next stop on the dial after panic?

  7. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I have moved back to Gordon’s London Dry Gin and Schweppes tonic with a slice of lemon, the tipple I cut my teeth on countless years ago. Sick of boutique gins and feverish tonics and bits of cucumber.

    It’s a tough old gin and I don’t mind it. This week, anyway.

  8. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    All good Rog.

    I’m extremely naive about many of the intricacies at play here that I’ve rattled off from a layman’s perspective. I am extremely ignorant in comparison of the points that Ratzinger made!!! (and unfortunately have to run as I’m the lead Cantor for a nativity play tonight!).

    Stay cool Cats.

    Oh, JC and JR. Get a room.

  9. JC Avatar
    JC

    Not sure it hurts them at all or enough to care. The US/ West sidelined them from their markets except in critical areas like oil and uranium so a depression in the West shouldn’t effect them much at all. And even with a downturn, it will give them a whip hand as they’ll want to have secure their commodities and energy sources.

    It wouldn’t be just a depression in the West alone. If major oil installations went up in a plume the entire world would be in a huge downturn. Ironically, the US wouldn’t be as badly off being energy independent. In a situation like that, US oil exports would be curtailed by the government in order to keep domestic prices down. We’re talking end of times stuff here and markets don’t believe that.

    Lastly, Yemen would exist.

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Finished it. All set now to grapple with making a chicken curry.

    Have purchased a pak with the makings all raw and twiggy so it might even have a hint of authenticity.

  11. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    No piggy allowed, no shellfish, no milk and meat, separate pots and utensils for meat and dairy. And the biggest thing, if you’re not circumcised, you will have to be circumcised as an adult male.

    Ahem, cough. got me on that last one! I’ll stick with conservative catholicism! 🙂

  12. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    Polite Civilization is just another machine whose Operating Manual was written in Blood .. Much like other machines involving KE = 1/2 M. V ^2 .. but even then most will require good judgement ..

    Much an all as I prefer ..the more complex discussion (with little comprehensible outcome ) .. I kinda like the Arithmetic … perspective …

    More Civilization ? Less Blood.

  13. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s why, one day, I think we’ll see (inshallah) Pell canonized.

    Not for quite a while I suspect, give how the college of Cardinals is currently aligned. Quite unlikely to be friendly towards George, I suspect.

    On the other hand the arraignment of Mr Becciu could just about be regarded as a miracle, so that counts towards Pell’s account perhaps…

  14. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lastly, Yemen would exist.

    In our discussion last nite, Hairy said that Trump would have already bombed the installations in Yemen when they first tried it on in the Red Sea.

    A powerful and decisive America is what is currently missing.

    No-one who should be scared is currently scared.

  15. John Brumble Avatar
    John Brumble

    Johnny..

    There are a few people on this blog who massively promote themselves, constantly put themselves at the centre of everything, and never met a situation that they couldn’t insert themselves, intimately, into.

    Sometimes I feel JC goes a bot over the top in his approach to them.

    But there is nothing, nothing that JC could do or say which would make me feel sorry for you. You offer nothing, spamming the blog with grifting Armstrong refuse. The “jokes” you repost could be found easily on an archive of alt.jokes from the 1990.

  16. JC Avatar
    JC

    Maybe because Junior Cretin puts money into the Blog.

    The blog owner asked you to stop making those sorts of dishonest accusations. He’s also asked you to stop using the c word and the various permutations you’ve tried to come up with.

    Zero ethics. A crook. A small time limey crook.

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Terror cell leader Benbrika released from prison
    Staff writers
    Staff writers

    Convicted terrorist Abdul Nacer Benbrika has been released from prison after spending 18 years behind bars for his plots to attack Melbourne and Sydney landmarks.

    The terror cell leader left Barwon Prison at around 5:40pm on Tuesday after the Supreme Court ruled that he be released from jail.

    White prison vans blocked visibility as Benbrika left the prison building and got into his car, but was pictured leaving in a dark grey ute.

    Benbrika avoided media as he exited the prison through the facilities entrance.

    The vehicle travelled along Bacchus Marsh road towards Bacchus Marsh.

  18. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @BoN

    we get scant resources when it come to the Truth , or otherwise , of Man’s Transgressions against His Community or God …

    I cannot see Justice done in that conviction …

  19. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    Interesting to see how an additional 10 days per journey affects not only the oil business but goods delivery in the short term.

    And you think the oil market hasn’t discounted that?

    With surplus tanker capacity at present that is not a terrifying thing.

    But the closure of the Canal after the 1967 six-day war caused apparently complete substitution of West Australian apples by South African production. My town’s packing shed closed down, the orchards fell fallow and apples were free to pick for a good few years, until the Government paid a subsidy for pulling out the orchards.
    All gone, three out of four towns no longer in the orchard business.

  20. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @BoN

    Which I why I DONT want to see Pell made any sort of martyr or ridiculous Passon Play .. Pell got no better or worse than any on else … Catholic or Not … that got torn to shreds …

    Peace .

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What’s the next stop on the dial after panic?

    Hoarding, making do, resignation. self-preservation and poverty.

    Then mobs and social breakdown. And more socialism to cure it all.

  22. Muddy Avatar
    Muddy

    Black Ball asked:

    What’s the next stop on the dial after panic?

    Catatonia?
    Seriously.

  23. JC Avatar
    JC

    Dover

    The scary things you’re suggesting are eminently reasonable. There’s risk in the Middle East. However, there are factors you should also consider.

    The things you’re suggesting could happen are also going through the minds of the oil market players and the market is a discounting mechanism.

    At times , even in very adverse situations prices don’t head in the expected direction.
    Who’s to say that the market shouldn’t be much lower if the Yemen situation was hanging over it as the current levels of supply could be swamping demand?

  24. dover0beach Avatar

    And you think the oil market hasn’t discounted that?

    Hard to say. If a ship now makes 6 trips does that +10 days per trip mean it only can manage 5. What impact does that have on the economy?

  25. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Climate change alarm is exaggerated, we should not demonise oil and gas: Elon Musk

    Trump is number one on the left’s hit list but Elon is not far behind the big guy. If either Trump or Elon or both get a stray bullet it will be on for young and old.

    There are so many indicators that that Australia is rooted: Australia tittering on the edge of recession: terrorist interference with oil supplies; the importation of many unvetted potential palli terrorists; imminent blackouts from turtle’s actions, and in that respect an interesting analysis of the AEMO’s failure to stop this:

    BLACKOUTS HAVE MANY CONSEQUENCES – THE AEMO IS IN WONDERLAND THE CEO MUST RESIGN

  26. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Urgh I should edit. I’m hopeless at such things.

    Btw the Iceland volcano has been doing very nice things, especially since it has managed so far to miss everything important. The Blue Lagoon, the power station and Grindavik all look to be in good shape, so long as it doesn’t get too excitable.

    The start of the Grindavík 2023 eruption (23 minute video)

    Remarkable work from the webcam person, they caught the start of it then zoomed in and focused. The last 10 minutes are fascinating with giant fire fountains and new fissures opening up as the ground to either side splits open.

  27. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @ BON .. Pell retained His Dignity … if you ever have to walks those shoes Brother hope .. you manage so modest a show of courage.

  28. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 7:21 PM
    Maybe because Junior Cretin puts money into the Blog.

    The blog owner asked you to stop making those sorts of dishonest accusations.

    The Blog Owner has never asked me to do anything of the sort. You on the on the other hand have been abusing everyone that you don’t like here over and over again,

    You are a serial abuser.

    NEXT

  29. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    What’s the next stop on the dial after panic?

    Cheer up, Terry.

    Dumbo has assured all workers a pay rise my mid-year.

    Just don’t mention productivity.

  30. JC Avatar
    JC

    Hard to say. If a ship now makes 6 trips does that +10 days per trip mean it only can manage 5. What impact does that have on the economy?

    Depends on the cost of shipping. I haven’t looked yet, but the cost of cargo transport can move 200% in a month. Is there a shortage or surplus in that shipping sector at the moment?

  31. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    The blog owner asked you to stop making those sorts of dishonest accusations.

    OK Junior, show me.

  32. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Hehe, Mark, I’m one of those knuckle dragging Calvinists. George Pell was a Christian and an extraordinary man though. Vale.

  33. Dot Avatar

    Excess capacity of refineries, the AUD/USD and Russia, etc responding to demand explains a lot of the movement or lack thereof of both petrol/diesel and oil.

  34. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    The filth in Canbra, the filth in Dublin, the filth in Ottawa all seem to be operating fromt eh same handbook- mass migration, attacks on farmers etc etc.

  35. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    No piggy allowed, no shellfish, no milk and meat, separate pots and utensils for meat and dairy. And the biggest thing, if you’re not circumcised, you will have to be circumcised as an adult male.

    In Iran when discussing that aspect with Muslim colleagues lightheartedly keen to put conversion before us, we aussies were approved when we said ‘Well THAT would not be a problem!’ We explained it was quite common for our generation; maybe a health thing after military service of the previous generations?
    I was quite surprised when our own firstborn was (so to speak) on the chopping block, and the doc told us that these days pretty much ONLY Jewish babies got circumcised.

  36. Dot Avatar

    I have a friend, who now lives in Israel (he’s married to an Israeli girl). He converted over thirty years ago, he was the son of a Jew (who died when he was young) and he was brought up a Christian by his mother. Alas, he was not circumcised as a baby so when he decided to convert, after much study and living a Jewish life, he had to be circumcised in a hospital by a doctor and then…..wait for it…..when he went before the Beth Din (all men) for his final test he had to drop his pants for them to make sure that his foreskin was gonski!

    LOL. Are ya sure you wanna convert?

    Christopher Moltisanti always had it rough.

  37. JC Avatar
    JC

    Freight shipping seems sort of stable at the moment.

    https://fearnpulse.com/#1

    Look at the charts.

  38. JC Avatar
    JC

    OK Junior, show me.

    Go here, Wodney.

  39. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Johnny Rotten
    Dec 19, 2023 7:33 PM
    The blog owner asked you to stop making those sorts of dishonest accusations.

    He did not so don’t hide behind Dover. You farking wimp and pathetic cretin.

    You are just a piece of shite and who is a pathetic bully. Fat Pizza OK.

    What a poor person you are.

  40. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    This bloke should be out.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/dec/19/daniel-duggan-home-detention-appeal-pilot-flight-risk
    Daniel Duggan asks to be released from jail and detained at home as he fights extradition to US
    Australian pilot accused of training Chinese military denies he is a flight risk in letter requesting NSW home detention

    Screw the Yanks, and dreyfuss, the dickhead.

    The federal attorney general, Mark Dreyfus, has approved Duggan’s extradition request, meaning Duggan will be handed over to the US unless his legal team can prove his extradition is unlawful.

  41. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    More EV awesomeness

    electric scooter or bike or something caught fire on Level 11 of a building in Sth Melb this morning too

    dunno the details

    high rise apartment car parks are filling up with Teslas

    sooner or later events like this will stop being trivial news snippets

  42. Dot Avatar

    Preparation for shopping includes a bag, cash and a hockey mask from now on.

    Finally! My favourite part of the year!

    Hockey Mask Time(TM).

  43. JC Avatar
    JC

    He did not so don’t hide behind Dover. You farking wimp and pathetic cretin.

    He sure did. Ask him, you limey crook. Go ahead.

  44. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Baltic dry index is usually good for shipping news and to see where prices are going.

    Nowhere much yet seems to be the answer, but soon.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/baltic

    Meanwhile, freight rates are expected to rise due to disruptions in Red Sea routes caused by multiple attacks from Yemen’s Iranian-backed Houthi movement in recent weeks. The threats to carriers around Egypt’s Suez Canal may pressure freight rates from Asia to Europe or to the United States East Coast as ships take alternative, longer routes,” said Bloomberg Intelligence senior analyst Lee Klaskow.

  45. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Australian pilot accused of training Chinese military denies he is a flight risk

    That has to be a Northern Territory newspaper headline.

  46. Dot Avatar

    Australian pilot

    Um…!?

    Is he being prosecuted by the IRS?

  47. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 7:40 PM

    The blog owner asked you to stop making those sorts of dishonest accusations.

    He did not so don’t hide behind Dover. You farking wimp and pathetic cretin.

    You were hiding behind other posters like Calli. You are the farking Crook.

  48. JC Avatar
    JC

    Mole

    That’s the dry goods freight and not oil. But have a look at the drop from the 4 Dec to 19th. It’s 32% drop in freight cost in a few days!

  49. JC Avatar
    JC

    Ask him, Wodney. Dare ya. 🙂

  50. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Maybe because Junior Cretin puts money into the Blog

    This is both funny and immensely stupid at the same time, and in equal part.

    Do you really want to cast negative aspersions on blog management – that the aforementioned management allows ‘cash for comment’ while you continually push demonstrable lies from a convicted fraud who spent 11 years in the bin for fleecing the helpless?

    As noted earlier upthread, your ‘jokes’ are 40 years old and easily available by watching any repeat of ‘On The Buses’, yet you put them up in the apparent belief that a) you thought of them, and b) nobody else has heard of them.

    Everything about you screams fake, and you wonder why you’re not taken seriously.

    ‘I am 70’
    ‘I am from England (all of it, apparently, due to your rampant mixing of dialects)’
    ‘I have a sexy Asian wife’
    ‘I have orgies on the weekends’
    ‘I was a part-time bovver boy’

    I will now refer to you as ‘Mrs Slocum’.

  51. dover0beach Avatar

    Lastly, Yemen would[n’t] exist.

    In our discussion last nite, Hairy said that Trump would have already bombed the installations in Yemen when they first tried it on in the Red Sea.

    A powerful and decisive America is what is currently missing.

    What can the US do that it hasn’t already done in the last decade via its allies in the Gulf. If you think it can go to the finish of the escalation ladder directly you need to calm down. Any major escalation brings all the Yemeni allies into the equation.

  52. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    MatrixTransform
    Dec 19, 2023 7:41 PM
    More EV awesomeness

    Give an EV to Junior Cretin and lets see how it works…………………Or NOT. LOL

  53. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @BON you know I am an unrecalcitrant beliver in Nothing “Alles Quatch” as thos ghastly Huns have repeatedly invoked!!

    Evidence …

    Presumption of Innocence…

    Due Process !!

    That kinda out moded boring stuff ..,.

    If I cant have that than then ? Early Roxy Music .. ? Hey not walking out of here empty … 😉

    Hey “More than This ?” … what do we Leftie Scrotes hope for this from our betters?

  54. JC Avatar
    JC

    Dover

    If those Yemini morons hit major Mid East oil installations they’d get a pass, would they?

    Calm down? I’m not the one putting up quasi end of times ideas. I’m suggesting there’s nothing you’ve said that oil market players haven’t thought about and yet the price is where it is.

    You appear to have a soft spot for those Yemeni idiots. 🙂

  55. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    and here I was thinking dover was a heathen for not making his own guacamole

    No piggy allowed, no shellfish, no milk and meat, separate pots and utensils for meat and dairy.

    pancetta … chorizo? no! no! no!
    better not include prawns … [quickly googles] … what the actual… !!
    ffs … and no cheese on a meatballs?

    And the biggest thing, if you’re not circumcised, you will have to be circumcised as an adult male.

    whew!
    at least it isn’t all bad news

  56. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Here you go Mark.

    Rock Of Ages – Brian Ferry (1977)

    Ripper album. Rock of Ages is of course also a famous hymn.

  57. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 7:49 PM
    The blog owner asked you to stop making those sorts of dishonest accusations.

    When, and show me Dick Head.

  58. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    JC
    I was thinking panamaxes were oil, obviously not.
    The shipping world is weird, Ive tried following it for a while when working at the salt mine, but only sometimes did shipping seen to reflect worldwide news of some sort.

  59. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 7:55 PM

    Wheras – You are Just A Pompous Windbag…………..LOL

  60. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @KD .. “This is both funny and immensely stupid at the same time, and in equal part.”

    Even if the bloke is neither or both… cut him some slack .. He is just another Human being upon whom you just have no God Given Right to charge in …

    But I know you have already passed Ultimate Judgement on Me .. given your impromptu to pass judgement on us all…

    Wouldn’t want that on my shoulders if I U understood what it meant …

  61. dover0beach Avatar

    Depends on the cost of shipping.

    Can’t be just that. If trips are fewer, unless other ships pick up the slack, fewer goods/commodities are being delivered.

  62. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Any major escalation brings all the Yemeni allies into the equation.

    Including Russia?

  63. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 7:49 PM
    The blog owner asked you to stop making those sorts of dishonest accusations.

    You little Fat Arse Big Nose Maffioso Crook cannot back up anything. Maybe your Fat Arse but that is all.

  64. JC Avatar
    JC

    Can’t be just that. If trips are fewer, unless other ships pick up the slack, fewer goods/commodities are being delivered.

    What’s the current slack in the market? Baltic Dry dropped 32% in just over two weeks, possibly suggesting some slack in that sector?

    The link I posted earlier suggests a small tightening in oil freight costs, but time will tell.

  65. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    given your impromptu to pass judgement on us all…

    Ah, no. I most certainly do not ‘pass judgement’ on everyone.

    Wouldn’t want that on my shoulders if I U understood what it meant …

    Okay then, but cut me some slack because that sentence doesn’t make sense. Which is unsurprising.

  66. JC Avatar
    JC

    Dover

    Wodney wants to know if you posted a comment asking people to stop making aspersions about cash for comments etc.

    Don’t believe him, but he reckons he didn’t see it. Could you elaborate, for the two bit limey crook.

  67. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Lysander Christian Bros in Victoria are very tainted by allowing a group of paedophile to operate for years, shifting them around after complaints.
    They aren’t the church.
    Judaism is my second favourite religion.

  68. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    Easy way to maximize oil carrying capacity would be to ban everything but 98 octane. Storage, mileage, price watch, everything is distorted by watering down the punch for p*ssy 92.

  69. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @BON … I normally check my sourceds because I am so Unreliable these days …

    But I wanna Say ENO amd Bowie … (forgive me if this it tottal bolocks ) We Brother ENO and someone … Likely Bowie … went into the Studio and Just Did an unrelenting “Pete and Dud … ” .. No bust from charachter …

    See … the Ambience follows you around the room … ” there is a thing about being part of a Culture … firstly you have to realize you are there …

  70. dover0beach Avatar

    If those Yemini morons hit major Mid East oil installations they’d get a pass, would they?

    Never said that, but you seem to think there are no rungs between doing nothing and nuking.

    Calm down? I’m not the one putting up quasi end of times ideas. I’m suggesting there’s nothing you’ve said that oil market players haven’t thought about and yet the price is where it is.

    I’m putting up plausible scenarios. When I brought up this weeks ago it was largely fobbed off, now we have a maritime operation involving 2 carrier groups off the coast. Whatever the market is thinking, it’s entirely possible they have miscalculated.

  71. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 7:49 PM
    The blog owner asked you to stop making those sorts of dishonest accusations.

    This is where you have serious delusions of all sorts of things including grandeur. But then again what is new with a Plonker like you.

    You DOPE

    And the Blog Owner never asked me such thing.

  72. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @BON I Love ENO to shreds.. He is very much like minded to Me .. he just gave up omn trying to be clever (I had never really ventured that conjecture ) ..But ENO just knew enough about Science to know how much cleverer than he would have to be to be remotely worthwhile…

    I SO love His Music…

    and His humility …

  73. JC Avatar
    JC

    You DOPE

    And the Blog Owner never asked me such thing.

    He asked all of us, you dishonest, filthy little crook.

  74. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @BON … ~ you know I am ~gagging ~ for ENO …

  75. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Mark – I can’t help with Eno or Bowie, I’ve never been into the music scene except as a listener. Maybe Roger or Rabz could swap stories with you!

    As to ambience…

    Love in Motion w/ Christina Amphlett – Icehouse (1992)

  76. JC Avatar
    JC

    Never said that, but you seem to think there are no rungs between doing nothing and nuking.

    “Never said that”? I never suggested you did. However, you did posit the possibility that those imbeciles have the means to attack major oil installations across the Mid East and I replied that if they did, they would no longer be alive.

    I’m putting up plausible scenarios. When I brought up this weeks ago it was largely fobbed off, now we have a maritime operation involving 2 carrier groups off the coast. Whatever the market is thinking, it’s entirely possible they have miscalculated.

    What if you’re miscalculating by over-reaching?

  77. dover0beach Avatar

    Including Russia?

    Re Yemen, no.

  78. Robert Sewell Avatar

    Roger

    Dec 19, 2023 10:28 AM
    Da bruvvas running da show now – and have been for some time.
    Rumour has it that the head of the nurses’ union was unofficially the chief adviser on hospitals to the Minister for Health during covid.
    We’re still dealing with the clinical and theatre backlogs.

    You’ll find that in just about every PS/Union interface.
    There’s a steady flow of people between the Union and the government Industry – It was really obvious in WA a decade or so ago – in one remote hospital up north, the entire Regional Administration had, essentially, moved from head office of the different unions to take over the Area Health Board.
    And that, Virginia, is why the problems Australia faces are unfixable.

  79. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @ Bruce of Newcastle … me niether … I was only a teenager … and I still had the gift of clear hearing, then .. and we all had our “enthusiasms’ … Chrissie was good .. but not Punk enough for me .. But back then wasnt everything AMAZING !! ??

    Not making a Big Deal of it ..

    Surely our “enthusiasms” should inform our lives for as long as we can sustain them ?

    Peace …

  80. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    H B Bear

    Dec 19, 2023 6:53 PM

    Crysanthou hangs Mrs Pirate out to dry Teh Paywallian reporting. Every woman for themselves at this point.

    Mmmyes.
    The cover-up defence joins half a dozen Ten employees under the bus. At least as far as Brown goes. And, as the Oz journo asks, if it didn’t involve Brown, who did it involve?
    This is awkward.
    Both Toad and Ten have insisted that the primary thrust of the program was about the cover up and “No HR department”.
    Now that Toad and her lawyer have abandoned that, they haven’t got much. Toad isn’t running a truth defence (Ten is), so what does her defence now consist of? That there was significant public interest in a “he said, she said” allegation of rape between two half-pissed junior public servants which warranted half an hour in prime time?

  81. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Judaism is my second favourite religion.

    Christianity is my second favourite religion.

    I generally like Hindus, not sure about Hinduism though, all those gods, ridiculous.

  82. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    He asked all of us, you dishonest, filthy little crook.

    Asked who Tosser?

  83. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    she passes out

    Doubt that if the blow was any good.

    I described the scenario a week or so ago.
    She does a line, has a bad reaction & starts vomiting her guts up.
    That’s when BL does a runner.
    And by the time she’s emptied her guts, she’s exhausted, then crashes.

    I’ve seen it happen.

  84. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Over to you Blog Owner, Take the money from the Fat Pizza Arsehole or allow free speech. Over to you. Otherwise it could be said that you have been bought.

  85. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    Their ABC firing well…. from news.com


    ABC Melbourne has forfeited a recent recovery, dropping 1.4 points to a 6.6 per cent share of Melbourne’s radio market in the eighth and final GfK survey for 2023, while 3AW once again finished the year on top.

    After a strong survey seven, which saw ABC Radio Melbourne breakfast host Sammy J jump to a 10.1 per cent share, his show experienced a similar drop with almost two percentage points wiped off, falling back to an 8.2 per cent share.

  86. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    Back in the day I remember the Cat being a place for robust intelligent , but kindly conversation.

    What has it turned into now ?

    For shame people …

  87. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Whacky world of islam:

    France: Migrant rapes pro-migration activist, then she is ‘shocked’ to see him on the street

    Sweden: Muslim migrants who urinated on and gang-raped woman won’t be deported, court says they have ‘integrated’

    And the really scary one:

    51% of Americans ages 18-24 think solution to Palestinian conflict is for ‘Israel to be ended and given to Hamas’

  88. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    JC

    Dec 19, 2023 7:21 PM

    Maybe because Junior Cretin puts money into the Blog.

    The blog owner asked you to stop making those sorts of dishonest accusations. 

    The accusation that JC gets some sort of preferential treatment here because he chips in to help with the running costs is more a slight directed at Dover than JC.
    Dover has already explicitly denied this and asked that you cease and desist from this bullshit.
    You have effectively called Dover a liar.
    Which makes you a c-nt as well as a crook.
    …………………………………………… LOL!!

  89. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @Barking Toad … The ABC is now a cesspit of lies and propaganda .(Maybe it was once something else, but that is a different conversation) . i only look to it now to see what we are supposed to believe … ~spit ~

  90. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Johnny Rotten

    Dec 19, 2023 8:46 PM

    Over to you Blog Owner, Take the money from the Fat Pizza Arsehole or allow free speech. Over to you. Otherwise it could be said that you have been bought

    Still pretending to be a part-time bovver boy, I see.
    Trying to freaten people.
    Go service the lady boy, you dodgy prick.

  91. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    That was fun.

    Bald and Bankrupt:

    England, one of the world’s richest nations. But not everyone gets to enjoy the benefits of being born here. Just 60 miles from the bright lights of London is Jaywick which is statistically the most deprived town in the nation. I visited with my friends @BackpackerBen and @TimmyKarter for a weekend by the beach. Join us!

    Thanks to the staff at the Black Rock restaurant in Clacton who looked after us and the great people of Clacton and Jaywick.
    Transcript

    Holidaying In England’s Most Deprived Town

  92. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    I’m not convinced by the explanations so far on the current oil price. It simply doesn’t reflect the sort of prudence you would expect.

    There are issues with storage in a few key parts of the supply chain.
    Ie, there isn’t any.
    After the April/May 2020 storage disaster, I reckon risk departments are all over this.

  93. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Back in the day I remember the Cat being a place for robust intelligent , but kindly conversation.

    That was only because I was doing my thesis entitled: I think therefore I eat.

  94. JC Avatar
    JC

    Johnny Rotten
    Dec 19, 2023 8:46 PM

    Over to you Blog Owner, Take the money from the Fat Pizza Arsehole or allow free speech. Over to you. Otherwise it could be said that you have been bought.

    Just wow.

    The first sentence doesn’t make a scrap of sense.

    Otherwise? Otherwise, Dover can be bought for asking and then accepting donations to keep the blog going? Woddenhead is a disgusting pos.

  95. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Johnny Rotten
    Dec 19, 2023 8:42 PM
    He asked all of us, you dishonest, filthy little crook.

    So Dover, the Blog Owner, did you ask of every Poster? I bet that he/she.it/whatever didn’t.

  96. dover0beach Avatar

    “Never said that”? I never suggested you did. However, you did posit the possibility that those imbeciles have the means to attack major oil installations across the Mid East and I replied that if they did, they would no longer be alive.

    JC, do you even know or try to find out what they are capable of or do you think calling them imbeciles is sufficient? Re the latter, how do you think the US will do that?

  97. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Mark Bolton
    Dec 19, 2023 8:46 PM
    Back in the day I remember the Cat being a place for robust intelligent , but kindly conversation.

    What has it turned into now ?

    For shame people …

    You are not obliged to be here.

  98. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @cohenite Oh so humble ? I am sure your PhD must have amounted to something ( I truly hope it did)

    And We all do the best we can with what we have.

    The Cat was, back then a worthwhile, endevour … I am not making a point … just so say I saw it then and i see it now ..

    I have no investment … I am just seeing how it all worked out ..

  99. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Otherwise it could be said that you have been bought

    And now a direct slur on management.

    Take the money from the Fat Pizza Arsehole or allow free speech. Over to you

    Once again, for the eternally retarded – this august journal of record is not a city park where any methed-up derro can rock up and yell about 1985 supercomputers.

    This. Place. Is. Private. Property. And. You. Are. A. Guest.

  100. JC Avatar
    JC

    JC, do you even know or try to find out what they are capable of or do you think calling them imbeciles is sufficient?

    It’s sufficient enough to describe them? Sure.

    Let me say, that I accept your assertion they would be capable of blowing up major oil installations. My question is what happens then?

    Re the latter, how do you think the US will do that?

    It wouldn’t be just the US that would destroy them.

  101. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Holidaying In England’s Most Deprived Town

    Mrs Slocum – un-deprive this town and return.

    With a decent supply of kippers.

  102. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @ Boambee John … Indeed none of Us are obliged to be anywhere … But there weere one discussion groups i once took pride on being involved in ..

    I am not taking any of you to task … I am just making an observation about the changeability of things…

    Also, and I have never made, any secret of this , It interests me to see the perspective youy fokllks now have on Geopolitics…. I am never here to say you are right or wrong .. never pretended otherwise .. Just interested to see how the conversation has changed …

  103. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    Also to ALL .. this foul language is unforgivable … These controversies … no matter how much they capture your passion require Civil and Polite discourse.

  104. JC Avatar
    JC

    Woddenhead

    I’ve made exactly $300 donation to the blog this year becsuse the owner nicely ask people to chip in to keep the place going. I’ve done so every year. Perhaps, if you think the blog owner jumps over chairs to get to such a donation and accepts cash for comment, you could donate a similar sum, and by your repulsive, crooked limey logic, you too would receive the same treatment.

    Let’s see you get the wallet out now, champ.

  105. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 8:23 PM
    You DOPE

    And the Blog Owner never asked me such thing.

    He asked all of us, you dishonest, filthy little crook.

    See hoe this Dick Head works. He asked all of of us,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOL. That’s like Joe Biden asking all of us. What a Crock and what a CROOK he is………….

  106. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @

    Knucle Dragger

    “This. Place. Is. Private. Property. And. You. Are. A. Guest.” …

    Indeed !!

    Much and all as we may have had controversies I am totally with you on this one …

    WE are guests in this forum .. and MUST behave with good manners .. We are under a notional “roof ” and must comport ourself with good manners..

  107. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Will comment for cash.

  108. JC Avatar
    JC

    Woddenhead.

    Make the donation!

    See hoe this Dick Head works. He asked all of of us,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOL.

    Yes, he made a comment without signaling anyone out.

    I think it’s time for a diaper clean-up as you’ve lost it.

    (You really appear to struggle to keep up when not posting bilge from the convicted fraud and stupid jokes.)

  109. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    That’s like Joe Biden asking all of us.

    You may want to put the Pimms No.1 Cup down, Mrs Slocum.

    Perhaps a joke would lighten the mood. Preferably one about the scrawny, drizzle-preferring Poms requiring assistance from this wide brown land to save their country in not one, but two world wars.

  110. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Mitchell Starc just got signed to the Kolkata Knight Riders in the IPL (that’s cricket, Mrs Slocum) for $4.4 million dollars.

    For ten weeks’ work.

    Unbelievable.

  111. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    IPL cash would have kept Bill Lawry in pigeons for decades. Which would have spared us all.

  112. Muddy Avatar
    Muddy

    Fer cripes’ sake people, would you keep it down? Some of us are trying to categorise their belly-button lint collection, but with all this air-slapping, it’s difficult to differentiate between the freckled and the speckled!
    *Huff*

  113. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @ Knuckle Dragger

    I know I have told stories of me as a nipper being schooled by whisky breathed Old Bugger that were … sadly in a place to relate stories about Not Being Australian ..in so far as were are being fooled…. NOT to belive the Bullshit in the Media … but it wasn’t a Joke then … and nothing I could ever forget …

    I post this in humility .. I only know what I was told then … and have heard nothing more compelling since …

    Peace …

  114. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Mitchell Starc just got signed to the Kolkata Knight Riders … for $4.4 million dollars.

    Good on him! The Indians like their cricket and they can increasingly afford to pay for excellent entertainment.

    We Aussies will be the poor white trash feeding their system, quite soon.

  115. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    I speak of WWI and so did they …

  116. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Starting to sound like Faulty

  117. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/bureau-of-meteorology-warnings-to-far-north-qld-residents-delayed-during-intense-flooding-despite-local-council-being-notified-hours-beforehand/news-story/6c8b28f193b6bb1087d6f2f2c4bf1de5

    BOM deserves all the stick it gets with this one. I’ll link underneath an article put up Saturday evening with a so called senior meteorologist from the BOM carrying on about Jasper reforming (It was stalled over the cape) and fulminating about hey not out of the unusual December temperatures for Australia. What he should have been doing is telling people especially adjacent to the Barron R, Mossman R and probably every low area north of Cairns to get out when half a metre of rain has fallen on the Kuranda Range that has to drain somewhere.

    The BOM has good forecasting ability, I’ve seen it with Mining Companies I’ve worked with who pay for it, we even had a qualified pilot at one project who had a log in to the aviation portal which was much better that what we plebs see. So why the need to push a barrow at a time when there’s a real threat at hand? Reduced crew for Christmas perhaps?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12870179/cyclone-jasper-queensland-heatwave-floods.html

  118. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Anatomy of a Broken Hearted Pom.

    I came ‘ere back in seventies, by goom.
    Had good job as engineer* in top British firm, raagght. And shop steward to boot.
    With weekends off for bovver boy cos-play, eh Guv.
    Then I emigrate out ‘ere. How hard can it be? Full of descendants of stupid Paddies and Wog peasants. I’ll be top dog in no time.
    Fast forward forty years.
    Not even the skankiest Aussie chicks would ‘ave a bar of me and the best I could do was a mail-order Thai lady-boy.
    And I coulda made a go of it, except I was stymied at every turn … private school old boys, shifty wogs paying bribes, mates from the footy club, golf club, whatever.
    They all had it in for me.

    * Process worker.

  119. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Just like I’ve never watched morning television, and just like I’ve never drunk a can of coke in my life, I have never watched The Project. I never will. But from reading websites and news items since the tawdry Hoggins story broke back in early 2021, my understanding is that the big, whopper nub/premise of the whole Higgins allegations aired by the Amphibian of Mosman was that there was some grand conspiracy and cover up by the dastardly Liberal government. So, reading this tonight filled me with some schadenfreude, it an exchange between Justice Michael Lee and Ms Sue Chrysanthou

    “Can I proceed on the basis that no submission will be made Ms Brown was a knowing participant in a systemic cover-up of a rape?” he asked.

    There was a pause as Ms Chrysanthou took stock of this question.

    It was only last week that her client had sat in the same witness box and told the Federal Court she believed Brown, former chief of staff to then-minister Linda Reynolds was “getting instructions from the prime minister’s office” and it followed she and Reynolds were “knowing participants in a systemic cover-up”.

    “You’d agree that it would be wicked conduct, being involved in the systemic cover-up of a rape allegation?” Lee had asked.

    “Yeah, it was about keeping the details away from the media,” Wilkinson replied.

    Those words may have flashed through Chrysanthou’s mind as she considered her response.

    “Not for the purposes of these proceedings, your Honour,” she agreed after a long moment, there would be no submission that Brown was engaged in a systematic cover-up of the rape.

    My understanding was that the so called cover up was the basis for the whole politically charged vendetta against Morrison and the Liberals, the bullshit that they had a women problem, the bullshit that they didn’t care about women being sexually assaulted and on and on it went. The campaign undermined and tarnished Morrison and his government right up until May 2022, mainly because Morrison was so utterly inept and spineless in dealing with this vicious ideological vendetta, all started by a grotesque and very dodgy Amphibian from Mosman. No wonder Labor were laughing, the only person who thought the whole thing was obscene was Kimberly Kitching, now dead, we know what the Labor coven of witches did to her.

    From day one it was obvious to me that it was all a complete crock of shit. It’s now a grand canyon of shit.

  120. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Some of us are trying to categorise their belly-button lint collection,

    I am finding surprising overlap with the terms used for my toe-jam catalogue.

  121. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @ Sancho Panzer

    I have seen such changes of Heart .. in the mining Industry … Unsufferable Union blokes that gave everyone no end of grief… .. they went back to “Blighty ” and came back changed Men … after they saw what that fanatic idiocy … and such destruction had wrought on where they came from …. after that they were more interested in looking after the blokes …. right well who they were and what mattered to Us … Hrd Lessons well learned but at least they did …

  122. JC Avatar
    JC

    and just like I’ve never drunk a can of coke in my life,

    Really? Cass you have to at least try Coke Zero. Just once and they also come in a small can now.

  123. hzhousewife Avatar
    hzhousewife

    From day one it was obvious to me that it was all a complete crock of shit. It’s now a grand canyon of shit.

    And an ultimate F U being the wearing of white at the airport.
    I detest the wearing of white as it has been happening in Parliament and other places, and every time she wears white I email Peta Credlin about it.

  124. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    I have had the most wonderful day, starting with Best Man informing me that Christmas Day weather prediction is 19 C max; perfect for serious feasting. Then I came out to my desk to find it covered in ribbons, with a beautifully wrapped birthday present. Chanel #5. My favourite.

    Then phone calls, messages, cards and more presents. And strict instructions that I’m not allowed in the ‘Great Hall’ until 5.00 PM, where we found drinkies with Granddaughter #1’s special charcuterie board and many bottles of fizz.

    Dinner was superb, I seem to recall. Things were a tad foggy by then. Dessert floats through my memory as a fluffy, fabulous blend of pavlova and new season’s berries. But, TBH, we only came for the entertainment. (Ha ha.)

    Unreal! What an incredibly talented bunch I have generated. We eventually left with ‘Piano Man’ ringing in our ears, along with so many expressions of love that I am truly humbled.

    They’re onto Blues Brothers now. This could take some time.

  125. Muddy Avatar
    Muddy

    Well-scraped toes and on life goes, Mother.

  126. Perfidious Albino Avatar
    Perfidious Albino

    Trump wouldn’t hit the Houthi’s directly, but he would put the Iranians in a full court press economically and/or slice and dice a Republican Guard commander to achieve the same outcomes.

    I can certainly believe Brittnah attempting to swallow something other than Roses chocolates that caused her to spew and BL to flee. Yuk.

    Has anyone seen my pussy? Captain Peacock?

  127. P Avatar
    P

    Delta A,

    Congrats and Best Wishes.

    You are truly blest.

  128. Dot Avatar

    miltonf
    Dec 19, 2023 9:36 PM
    Starting to sound like Faulty

    I would have said testpattern (!) but the taste in music is unsurprisingly avian.

  129. Dot Avatar

    Bruce, Britt and Molly.

    I’ve said my piece.

  130. dover0beach Avatar

    It wouldn’t be just the US that would destroy them.

    But what are they going to do that hasn’t been tried and failed in the last 10 years?

  131. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Just get a load of these two grifters heading into the European winter in their summer whites.

    As mentioned earlier by Dr Faustus: “two plumpies off to get ruthlessly wood ducked”. The consensus being that the locals will make a not insubstantial meal of them both.

  132. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    You are truly blest.

    I know, P, and I thank God every day.

    Thanks for you kind wishes. Another birthday, another year older.

    Who cares? 🙂

  133. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 7:15 PM
    Not sure it hurts them at all or enough to care. The US/ West sidelined them from their markets except in critical areas like oil and uranium so a depression in the West shouldn’t effect them much at all. And even with a downturn, it will give them a whip hand as they’ll want to have secure their commodities and energy sources.

    It wouldn’t be just a depression in the West alone. If major oil installations went up in a plume the entire world would be in a huge downturn. Ironically, the US wouldn’t be as badly off being energy independent. In a situation like that, US oil exports would be curtailed by the government in order to keep domestic prices down. We’re talking end of times stuff here and markets don’t believe that.

    Lastly, Yemen would exist.

    They got caught out once but probably now have so many SAM installations that a paper plane couldn’t get through. Patriot networks are very effective.

    As an old army friend of mine said: you can’t win a war from the air alone. Saudi Arabia has some of the best US ground attack aircraft and munitions but still can’t get the job done. Short of an invasion, no-one will.

  134. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    That was only because I was doing my thesis entitled: I think therefore I eat.

    Descartes was horrified to learn that people exist who don’t think.

  135. Jorge Avatar
    Jorge

    Rode a tram this morning down Victoria St, Richmond. I remember it in the 90s as a street of thriving Vietnamese restaurants and other businesses. Now, you pass shopfront after shopfront shuttered or blank windowed with just bare walls and scraps of broken shopfittings gathering dust. Lurid graffiti everywhere, thick and heavy, all over the roll down shutters and the roof frontages. A good 65% of the street in the stretch where it was busiest once is like this now. It’s ugly and hard.

  136. KevinM Avatar
    KevinM

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 9:49 PM

    and just like I’ve never drunk a can of coke in my life,


    Really? Cass you have to at least try Coke Zero. Just once and they also come in a small can now.

    I try to keep out of commenting about others’ culinary habits* but I tried every kind of coke and I personally find all of them revolting.

    *exception, drinking cans of Woodstock, how do they do it?

  137. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Reposted for excellence – Faustus, apropos of Brih-nee, the Bruce lookalike and their Euro adventure:

    two plumpies off to get ruthlessly wood ducked

    Yes indeed. That is good.

  138. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @ Delta A

    “Who cares? ?”

    Well I for one ….

    Even If you cannot see that Christ is Our redeemer ? Would it not be a worthwhile exploration to consider what a “Redeemer ” might look like if one might possibly exist … ?

    Even If there is no such thing …

    Perhaps the mere consideration of what One might look like, makes for Hope … ?

    Peace

  139. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Descartes was horrified to learn that people exist who don’t think.

    He spent a few days in an oven to come up with his one liner, after all that he got it the wrong way round.

  140. Fair Shake Avatar
    Fair Shake

    Went to a restaurant in Chadstone shopping centre after work today. Plenty of car parks available. I was v surprised. I expected it to be full in the run up to Christmas. Is something going on ? Or is it the calm before the shopping rush? Hmmm…

  141. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    OK Smart and Profound words from me … OK I admit … we are all but Flesh ..

    https://youtu.be/PVSKgXY3xHs

  142. Mark from Melbourne Avatar
    Mark from Melbourne

    Purely hypothetical question…

    You are located in an inner city Melbourne area which is redistributing its Council wards.

    For historical reasons, because of that redistribution, it turns out that you are actually now in a position to run – and win – for Councillor next year. You can pretty much lock in 20% of the vote in a FPP election before you even start.

    You would be consigning yourself to four years of toil amongst the stupid and leftist (BIRM).

    You would probably do no good, except at the margins, because this is a leftist Council, and always will be I reckon. Currently, the Socialist Left provide the main source of common sense. No, truly.

    Do you (a) ask someone to knock some sense into you or (b) buy popcorn, Dan Murphy’s shares and do something incredibly stupid?

  143. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @ Frank

    “Cogito Ero Sum… ”

    Must have been tricky to get a gig as a Mathematician way back then … I would have put my hands up as a Farrier … But then, like now ,blokes lacking ambition or imaginatiion ,had a hard scrabble of it … ?

  144. Muddy Avatar
    Muddy

    Many happy returns* and all the best for the future, Delta.

    * I don’t know what that means. Presumably the easy exchange of inappropriate gifts?

  145. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @Mark from Melbourne

    I see your misery and can only feel compassion …

    One word :

    ?ubrówka …

    but it must be drawn from the freezer … in tiny glasses …

    also Tip to the Wise … Leave the bison outside .. 😉

  146. dover0beach Avatar

    Trump wouldn’t hit the Houthi’s directly, but he would put the Iranians in a full court press economically and/or slice and dice a Republican Guard commander to achieve the same outcomes.

    What more can the US do to Iran economically beyond the current boycott? What would killing another IRGC commander achieve? Probably escalatory strikes on US bases in Syria and Iraq. So what do you do after that? Attack Iranian assets in Iran. What’s their next move?

  147. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Britnah decamping to the land of foie gras, camembert, beignets and potatoes fried in duck fat.
    I predict it will end badly.

  148. Alamak! Avatar

    He spent a few days in an oven to come up with his one liner, after all that he got it the wrong way round.

    Cogito, ergo dumb

  149. Muddy Avatar
    Muddy

    Mark from Melbourne.
    The answer is (d). Infiltrate, and try to out-extreme the extremists*, using the experience to write a ‘strictly fictional’ book afterwards.

    * I mean that literally. e.g. Advocate that 100% ruinables is not enough. Everyone wants 100%, but does that show commitment? NO! etc. etc. Push the absurdity envelope (within legal bounds, of course).

  150. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Deep fried camembert.

  151. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    The Albanese government’s decision not to send a naval ship to the Red Sea is a devastating indictment of our military incompetence and perhaps a turning point in modern Australian history.

    Not for decades have we been so radically unprepared militarily, and incapable, as we are now.

    There is one overriding reason we can’t send a ship. None of the 10 operational surface fleet vessels we allegedly have available (seven Anzac frigates currently operational and three air warfare destroyers) has any counter-drone defence capabilities.

    The Houthi rebels in Yemen are firing drones at ships. We could shoot these drones down with our fabulously expensive anti-ship missiles, each of them vastly more expensive than drones, but very soon, say in a day and a half, an Anzac frigate would run out of such missiles and have to sail all the way back to Australia to replenish. The Houthis have armed drones. The Australian Defence Force does not have in its entire order of battle one single armed drone.

    Oz – Greg Sheridan

  152. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @Dover Beach

    Iran have been getting ready for this since forever… Not playing for sides here … despite the full “hhoopla” Project Ukraine wound up being the utter disaster we all knew it would be … Here is a thought ?

    How’s about we dont do it .. ? The West can wait them out …

    Peace ?

  153. Mark from Melbourne Avatar
    Mark from Melbourne

    Muddy, I had not considered the publishing options thereafter, I have to admit!

    It is a gift horse.

  154. Alamak! Avatar

    The Houthi rebels in Yemen are firing drones at ships. We could shoot these drones down with our fabulously expensive anti-ship missiles, each of them vastly more expensive than drones, but very soon, say in a day and a half, an Anzac frigate would run out of such missiles and have to sail all the way back to Australia to replenish.

    Try sling-shots. I believe the Israelis might have some used manuals lying about and could even offer training at discounted rate.

  155. dover0beach Avatar

    Soleimani, BTW, was the key figure in defeating Al Nusra/ ISIL in Syria and Iraq. Absolutely dumb move offing him. It won’t be forgotten either.

  156. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @ Dover Beach

    The way things are shaping up youngsters are all “Pro Palli” and as we get older things will get stickier … If we Go Now ..we meet the same snare .. The Isrealis have already lied to gain the Informtaional Battle Space .. and are demonstrably failing .. just like Ukraine …these conflicts wont be lost or won by the good graces of CNN ..

    This conflict will continue to be a generational Gordian Knot …

  157. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    Fair enough.

    —-

    Steve Inman:

    All Lives Splatter So Move

  158. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @Dover Beach …

    None of this ends nicely or soon … May the Almighty Have Mercy ..

  159. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Soleimani, BTW, was the key figure in defeating Al Nusra/ ISIL in Syria

    Which allowed Russia to come in; which was its purpose not protecting the West against the ISIS vermin.

    But what are they going to do that hasn’t been tried and failed in the last 10 years?

    Trump neutered iran, china, russia and the mutant in NK.

  160. Perfidious Albino Avatar
    Perfidious Albino

    Dover – I don’t think Iran is as sanctioned as we may imagine, certainly post Trump. The euros were actively sidestepping them anyway and under Biden any sanctions have tended to be against specific individuals and groups.

    Not suggesting any action is consequence free, just making the point that Trump demonstrated a preference towards targeting the root cause economically rather than the puppet in isolation militarily.

  161. Alamak! Avatar

    Trump wouldn’t hit the Houthi’s directly, but he would put the Iranians in a full court press economically and/or slice and dice a Republican Guard commander to achieve the same outcomes.

    Which would achieve nothing, absolutely nothing. The Iranians are already moving their economy to align with Russia and China and there is little Trump could do to harm them further without blowing up the massively indebted USA economy.

    Here is a different strategy, try doing the opposite. Trump could fly to Tehran and offer them a deal based on market access, democratic opening and removal of IRGC from Lebanon and Yemen plus extra benefits for nuclear inspections. Offering a good enough deal would split the government in Iran(plsu IRGC) vs the people and make the end of the Mullahs come much faster.

    Trump is mad enough to do this and it might be the move that changes the game in ME. Saudis would be opposed ofc, but who cares.

  162. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    The Isrealis have already lied to gain the Informtaional Battle Space .. and are demonstrably failing

    I have a sudden hankering for Doritos.

  163. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @Dover Beach …

    I thank you Good Sir a well considered evaluation of this situation .. I thank you for not being sucked into simplistic or belligerent option … It sure isnt Easy Brother !!

  164. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    Good flogging. Well deserved.

    Steve Inman:

  165. JC Avatar
    JC

    Trump could fly to Tehran and offer them a deal based on market access, democratic opening

    And the mullahs would jump at this?

  166. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    Oops, link

    One Man vs Antifa

  167. Alamak! Avatar

    Trump could fly to Tehran and offer them a deal based on market access, democratic opening

    And the mullahs would jump at this?

    Probably not, its the very last thing they would want to see. USA as the eternal enemy is the only political game they can use to stay in power.

    It might be done with meetings in Dubai or Qatar followed by a trip to Tehran where Trump would be welcomed by millions.

  168. JC Avatar
    JC

    Alamak.

    The Hiden administration has been doing lots to calm down the Mullahs. It’s got them nowhere.

  169. dover0beach Avatar

    Which allowed Russia to come in; which was its purpose not protecting the West against the ISIS vermin.

    ISIS was never about ‘the West’. ISIS was largely a tool to be used against Hezbollah, Syria/Assad, the new regime in Iraq, and Iran. Russia was already tied to the Syrian regime before that. They have an important military near Latakia. They were never going to let anything happen in Syria that would lose them that base.

    Trump neutered iran, china, russia and the mutant in NK.

    They don’t look like neutered at the moment.

  170. JC Avatar
    JC

    Attack Iranian assets in Iran. What’s their next move?

    Arm the opposition, which should’ve been done a long time ago.

  171. Gabor Avatar
    Gabor

    JC
    Dec 19, 2023 11:24 PM

    Alamak.

    The Hiden administration has been doing lots to calm down the Mullahs. It’s got them nowhere.

    If they wanted democracy, nothing to stop them.
    Equally, since they don’t want it, it takes some tremendous persuasion or more likely force to remove them.

    Unlike Iraq, the Persians now would welcome democracy, probably even the return the son of the late Shah.
    That revolution led by Khomeini was fomented from the west and the youth got carried away, they have learned their lesson now.

  172. dover0beach Avatar

    Trump could fly to Tehran and offer them a deal based on market access, democratic opening

    The problem for Trump in this scenario is no one would trust the US. Reputation is in the shitter, diplomatically. Also, as you said in paragraph above, they see their future in Eurasia, whether its in BRICS, or some other forum. The regime will see no positive in aligning with the West if it also means having to be smothered with the secular liberal values.

  173. dover0beach Avatar

    Arm the opposition, which should’ve been done a long time ago.

    So you want another Syria/ Iraq situation emerging in Iran with an guest appearance by ISIS. Let me tell you now, only an idiot in Iran would want this scenario to play out.

  174. Mark Bolton Avatar
    Mark Bolton

    @dover0beach

    You so have a grip on all this … I am sure it brings you no Joy . nor me … none to be had it seems? but thank you for helping me at least understand the situation .. Bless You Good Sir ..

  175. Alamak! Avatar

    The Hiden administration has been doing lots to calm down the Mullahs. It’s got them nowhere.

    I’m talking a grand bargain, something yuge that the Iranian people would want more than their current govt. Decades of sanctions and threats have not done anything to change the game.

    Arm the opposition, which should’ve been done a long time ago.

    That would simply lead to a crackdown and lots of dead people while the Mullahs would just say “see what USA made us do?”

  176. Colonel Crispin Berka Avatar
    Colonel Crispin Berka

    That banger video from hoe_math is a Certified Hood Classic.

    There seem to be several. Which one is the “banger” ?

  177. Alamak! Avatar

    The problem for Trump in this scenario is no one would trust the US. Reputation is in the shitter, diplomatically. Also, as you said in paragraph above, they see their future in Eurasia, whether its in BRICS, or some other forum. The regime will see no positive in aligning with the West if it also means having to be smothered with the secular liberal values.

    True on USA and trust. But the change would/should be targeted at the people and not the leaders. Most Iranians would like to be a normal country with liberal democracy given the chance.

  178. Colonel Crispin Berka Avatar
    Colonel Crispin Berka

    Gal Gadot speaks out against the UN
    Israeli Actress Gal Gadot took to twitter and Instagram to stand up for Israeli women held hostage in Gaza.

    RIP UN.

  179. JC Avatar
    JC

    So you want another Syria/ Iraq situation emerging in Iran with an guest appearance by ISIS.

    Sure, the Iranian population who despise the mullahs would welcome Sunni extremists no less with open arms.

    Let me tell you now, only an idiot in Iran would want this scenario to play out.

    Why?

  180. JC Avatar
    JC

    Dover, in what parallel universe where Iran is largely Shia Muslim would welcome anything like something resembling ISIS? It’s not even the one next to ours.

  181. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “Earth tilt and orbit are non-linear.”

    No, they ARE linear.
    Non-linear means there is a discontinuity.
    An example might be the brakes on your car – under everyday driving, these are “linear” in that the more pressure you apply, the quicker the car will stop. However, if you exceed the available grip of the tyres to the road surface, the wheels will lock up (stop turning), in which case using less brake pressure will in fact allow the wheels to start turning again, which will reduce stopping distance compared to locked wheels.

    Regardless, multi-variate linear systems can easily be chaotic – an example would be a “double pendulum”, see such animations as:
    https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=double+pendulum&&mid=2E67F29A9351F78F05572E67F29A9351F78F0557&&FORM=VRDGAR

    Climate is chaotic for the same reason – the “tilt” of the earth changes as well as precesses (summer solstice happens at different place in orbit as the north pole “wobbles” around), solar output changes, and tides change over several lunar cycles.
    There are also other forces at work as well, some secondary to the above, and some we may not even know about as yet.
    Plus, of course, human changes – not just to atmospheric chemical composition (aerosols, CO2 etc), but also land use and land cover changes.

    Although each can be considered “linear”, as per the above “double pendulum”, the combined affects is chaotic.

  182. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “Obela products are delicious, you won’t need a refund.”

    The chipotle hummus is awesome!

  183. Robert Sewell Avatar

    Memo to the Bobster:
    Our next Bill of Rights will include :
    #3 The Right to Privacy.

  184. Louis Litt Avatar
    Louis Litt

    Roger

    Your comment that Islam is the biggest coloniser in the world.
    How does that compare to communism. Russia, Eastern Europe, China, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, loas,South America , Africa.

    Which is this lesser evil?

    BTW your mention of that South African author from the early 20th century provided insightful rearing. I agree with him – the leftie crowd are hedonists obsessed with sex and substances.

  185. Louis Litt Avatar
    Louis Litt

    Lizzie
    Londons Gordon gin – most important – it’s cheaper than Aussie boutique gin.
    The Japanese GINS IN Daniele Murchellos are so smooth.

  186. Louis Litt Avatar
    Louis Litt

    Black ball 19/12/23 @ 7:12
    I am glad you posted Terrys article. Looking back at December, this is the slowest December I have experienced. Slower than December 2016.
    It is surprising we have survived so long since 2008 especially with energy, employment laws and the public service creep – now wave of public service effect on private industry.
    The effect of idiot labor decisions Palachook , Andrews, Wheatherall, which are billions of dollars wasted I could never understand why we have not crashed before.
    The Comm games – the s idiot snub at England and the dislocation that it has caused is amazing.

  187. Louis Litt Avatar
    Louis Litt

    Black ball 19/12 @ 7:12
    I forgot to mention NDIS.
    Seriously as a male who would do any of these tasks.
    All the male jobs are disappearing, mining, energy, agriculture, construction, manufacturing.
    I have allways been told I am a fish out of water in my job, but wow the size and strength of males doing caring NDIS jobs never surprises me.
    And the ndis organisers to find people for caring jobs is stunning.
    We are an amendicat society.

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