Open Thread – Weekend 23 Dec 2023


Angels Announcing the Birth of Christ to the Shepherds, Govert Flinck, 1639

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Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 8:34 pm

Macbeth,
have an awesome Christmas with your loved ones tomorrow, especially Jacinta jnr. You are indeed fortunate to have her in your life.
Next year, I suggest, nay DEMAND! (is that okay?) that as many Cats and Kittehs as can manage, organise a rip roaring get together in your neck of the woods, with you as Bacchus on a satin litter brandishing a fully stuffed cornucopia of goodies a week or two before Christmas. If you like, of course!

Macbeth, I remember you from the Professor Bunyip days. He is sadly missed. As is his Bleeder and Leech wrangler, Dr Yowie.

Crossie
Crossie
December 24, 2023 8:37 pm

It’s not Carols by Candlelight, it’s more the Melbourne Comedy Festival and about as funny. Pity.

Cassie of Sydney
December 24, 2023 8:38 pm

Eva Vlaadingerbroek has become a Catholic. She goes to church, she knows what is at stake because she’s witnessing a Europe crumbling away. Europe’s decline is palpable. There is no Europe without its Judaic Christian foundations. Perhaps it’s time others followed Eva’s example, you might even meet a women who looks like just like Eva.

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2023 8:43 pm

It looks grim, but the outcome of the invasion of Iraq is not over yet according to the calendars of historical cultural revisions.

Yes it does look grim and I think it was a terrible idea. The disaster further reinforced by knocking off Gaddafi.

Yes you can view history from many perspectives. For example, I don’t think we ever really recovered from WWI here in Oz but life goes on because it just has to. WWI probably caused the rise of the military industrial complex in the US too. Certainly WWII.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 24, 2023 8:48 pm

Usman Khawaja is another swarthy chap with a white wife.

“Respect my blah blah” whilst I don’t.

Same with 95% of Abbo footballers

cohenite
December 24, 2023 8:49 pm

Zafiro
Dec 24, 2023 8:20 PM
I have heard that Australia is normally a net sink of carbon dioxide. Is this true and what is the evidence? I need a source I can point someone to.

Ian Plimer.

The fuked fact checkers disagree.

Rabz
December 24, 2023 8:50 pm
MatrixTransform
December 24, 2023 8:52 pm

Melbn

carols by candlelight stage taken by Palli sympathizing protests

live take … here’s a message from our sponsors

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 24, 2023 8:53 pm

Barkin’ Betty

“The archives should be housed in the city”

Yes, because expensive inner city is the ideal site for a warehouse.

As long as the proles get stuck with the cost.

Robert Sewell
December 24, 2023 8:56 pm

miltonf

Dec 24, 2023 7:45 PM
The invasion of Iraq would have to go down as the biggest disaster of the 21st century. Bush, bLIAR and hoWARd should stand condemned.

The invasion was fine.
The occupation was a disaster – they should have leveled every piece of public infrastructure, every dam and bridge, every power station and airfield, then left and let the Iraqi people take their revenge on Saddam and his sons for the slaughter of their sons and husbands – the soldiers that were fed into the Iraq / Iran meat grinder.

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 8:56 pm

I can’t remember the name of the American pundit who gave Cenk the moniker I have used for him ever since, “Chunk Yoghurt”. It really works.

As for Barking Betty, she predicted that Mal le Turd’s tenure as Prime Prick would last longer than Ming’s. bwahahahahaha!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 24, 2023 8:57 pm

Eva Vlaadingerbroek has become a Catholic. She goes to church

A fair bit of that going about lately. Ms Hirsi Ali for example. A blogger who I read today was wondering if Naomi Wolf was edging in the same direction.

Is Naomi Wolf Becoming a Christian? – CultureWatch (20 Dec)

Like so many noted public intellectuals of late, she seems to be on a real spiritual journey, and the bottom line is this: Christians need to pray for her. People like Jordan Peterson, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Tom Holland and Douglas Murray, to name just a few, either have become Christians lately or may well be heading in that direction. So too with Naomi Wolf.

Ms Wolf lately has been writing interesting articles for Front Page Mag, where Daniel Greenfield hangs out. So that’s an excellent bit of red-pilling news.

Crossie
Crossie
December 24, 2023 8:57 pm

MatrixTransform
Dec 24, 2023 8:52 PM
Melbn

carols by candlelight stage taken by Palli sympathizing protests

live take … here’s a message from our sponsors

I missed that, must have been before I tuned in. Figures they would do that in Melbourne. Can’t watch any more, too boring, I’m switching over to the Christmas channel.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2023 8:57 pm

For example, I don’t think we ever really recovered from WWI here in Oz but life goes on because it just has to

WWI memorials are possibly the most poignant public monuments in Australia.

Robert Sewell
December 24, 2023 9:02 pm

bons
Dec 24, 2023 8:16 PM
If you have not yet nipped over to Michael Smith’s to view the excerpt Eva Vlaadingerbroek’s speech on freedom, do so.
She will make you glow through Christmas Day.
But, where did she find that name?

Her first bowl of alphabet soup, when she was four.
Her dad, a Mr John Smith, couldn’t talk her out of it.

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2023 9:04 pm

They are Roger. Just boys.

Robert Sewell
December 24, 2023 9:04 pm

cohenite

Dec 24, 2023 8:19 PM
I talked to two lefties after 9/11 and they thought America had it coming.
Yep; all lefties think (sic) others have it coming until it comes to them to.

Their motto is “If only Stalin knew!”

MatrixTransform
December 24, 2023 9:05 pm

Pogs,
answer to your kind query earlier today
we lost the old bloke this morning
passed peacefully

count your blessing while you have ’em and kiss yr kiddies or grandies and hug yr nannas or parents

and remember that it may just be a 3500 yo story but, it’s a 3500 yo story with archaeological evidence to back it up

merry Christmas and happy Hanukkah

Rabz
December 24, 2023 9:07 pm

WWI memorials are possibly the most poignant public monuments in Australia

err, Rog, we’re here to celebrate the boith of a personage that never existed.

Don’t bring me down, Man … 🙂

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 24, 2023 9:08 pm

Pogria
Dec 24, 2023 8:10 PM

How the War against Mangers and Menorahs Began.

Another personal tale related to Naomi Woolf’s article.

I knew I was a Jewish child, and that this was not our holiday. So what?

About 1950, my elder brother who was barely old enough to have learned basic writing, scribbled our gift wishes to Santa and we three kids. me the middle one, stuck our stockings to the chimney matle piece. But we knew Santa would leave them at the tree next door because he doesn’t visit Jewish homes. My parents had interesting ways to allow us full as possible partaking of mainline civic Christian cultural practices while knowing ourselves firmly as Jews. It wasn’t until decades later I realised and appreciated the assistence in this by the Greek Orthodox family next door where we Santa left our gifts around their tree. New Australians of that era were a different breed. My father who escaped from Europe in 1938 understood this aspect of Australia better than my mother, second generation of a Polish Jewish convict, a thief in London.

MatrixTransform
December 24, 2023 9:11 pm

I missed that, must have been before I tuned in

the missus found video

… stand bye and I’ll see if I can link it

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 24, 2023 9:11 pm

Dec 24, 2023 8:20 PM
I have heard that Australia is normally a net sink of carbon dioxide. Is this true and what is the evidence? I need a source I can point someone to.

Ian Plimer.

Thanks cohenite.

Roger
Roger
December 24, 2023 9:13 pm

Newly Christian novelist Paul Kingsnorth, ‘Our Godless era is dead’:

I grew up believing in things which I now look on very differently. To put career before family. To accumulate wealth as a marker of status. To treat sex as recreation. To reflexively mock authority and tradition. To put individual desire before community responsibility. To treat the world as so much dead matter to be interrogated by the scientific process. To assume our ancestors were thicker than us. I did all of this, or tried to, for years. Most of us did, I suppose.


Here.

A few quibbles from me, but worthwhile seasonal reading.

Merry Christmas!

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2023 9:13 pm

THat’s one thing I love about Christmas- Jews, Moslems, Hindus join in too. Something we all share.

MatrixTransform
December 24, 2023 9:14 pm
C.L.
C.L.
December 24, 2023 9:15 pm

I read last week that an average of two churches in W. Europe are now being torched or otherwise vandalised, attacked or desecrated per week. Everybody knows who’s responsible.

I have never accepted the ‘electric tool left on a charger causing a fire’ story re Notre Dame, by the way.

calli
calli
December 24, 2023 9:15 pm

My sincere condolences, Matrix.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 24, 2023 9:17 pm

WWI memorials are possibly the most poignant public monuments in Australia.

Rural Australia, in particular, never recovered from the First World War – all the best and bravest of the young men…

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2023 9:17 pm

THe big mistake was when New Australians became ‘ethnics’.

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2023 9:18 pm

Even the building techniques and styles changed after WWI BIRM.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 24, 2023 9:19 pm

Take care Matrix.

C.L.
C.L.
December 24, 2023 9:21 pm

My condolences, Matrix.
Peace be with you and yours.

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2023 9:24 pm

Sorry to hear Matrix. Alway a difficult time.

Rabz
December 24, 2023 9:25 pm

Naomi Wolf

As much as I hate to admit it, Cats – very hot.

A beautiful brunette with ample boosage.

I’m into the serious issues, as we know! 🙂

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 24, 2023 9:25 pm

Hope you have a lovely and blessed day tomorrow Macbeth. It is great to have you post here.

Walker
Walker
December 24, 2023 9:25 pm

I know the Australian re-runs previous Magazine articles at this time of year, but I’m baffled as to why they have a 5 year old Media Watchdog on their front page online.

Cassie of Sydney
December 24, 2023 9:25 pm

MatrixTransform
Dec 24, 2023 9:05 PM

I’m sorry to hear, I wish you a long life. May his memory be a blessing.

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 9:26 pm

Matrix, XXXOOOXXX, in lieu of.
I am sure you have received many already, but you can never have too many.

Cassie of Sydney
December 24, 2023 9:26 pm

I have never accepted the ‘electric tool left on a charger causing a fire’ story re Notre Dame, by the way.

Nor have I.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 24, 2023 9:29 pm

Sincere condolences on your loss, Matrix.

C.L.
C.L.
December 24, 2023 9:31 pm

Tonight’s pressure release terrorism at Carols by Candlelight was brought to you by ASIO.

Megan
Megan
December 24, 2023 9:31 pm

I can’t remember the last time I was so sheepish about buying a publication and had to insist on a plain wrapper before I left the shop.

Hope you made full use of the free antiseptic gel after handing it over to the sales clerk.

Crossie
Crossie
December 24, 2023 9:32 pm

MatrixTransform
Dec 24, 2023 9:05 PM
Pogs,
answer to your kind query earlier today
we lost the old bloke this morning
passed peacefully

So sorry to read that. Keep him in your memories and in your heart.

Thank you for the carols link.

macbeth
macbeth
December 24, 2023 9:33 pm

B of N, through sad family events, my Jacinta lookalike was in my care from when she was just a little tot. She became my ‘little girl’ .
.Now she is independent and a senior executive with one of Australia’s biggest financial organisations. All her own work, too.

Delta A
Delta A
December 24, 2023 9:35 pm

Sincere condolences, Matrix. Especially awful time, just before Christmas.

MatrixTransform
December 24, 2023 9:35 pm

My sincere condolences

thanks Calli, I’ll light a candle for yours as well

it was the missus’ father not mine

spoke to my bio-father on the phone tonight and he laughed about walking in circles while waiting for the knee replacement
he said he’d text me if ever he’s taking his last breath and I said don’t bother, I’ll prolly miss yr message anyway
and we laughed again

and then we laughed about his mate Woody who unbelievably is still kicking and is probably completely bullet-resistant

so I told him that Old Ozzie got the nickname ‘cockroach’ … he liked that

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 9:37 pm

Katzenjammer,
what you wrote in your comment is pretty much a synopsis of the article by Naomi Wolf.
She is a proud Jew who can take joy in the Happy Rituals of Christians. She also seriously presses the obvious that, as I linked in a comment upthread, first they come for the Jews, then they come for the others.

Remember what Khomeini said to Oriana Fallaci? There is no Humour in Islam.
Humour is what sets us apart from those who would crush us.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 24, 2023 9:40 pm

Carols by Candlelight interrupted by pro-Palestine protesters in Melbourne

By aisling brennan
Queensland general news reporter
NCA NewsWire
9:28PM December 24, 2023

The annual Carols by Candlelight in Melbourne has been briefly interrupted after pro-Palestine protesters stormed the stage during the live broadcast.

Children performing were rushed from the Sidney Myer Music Bowl stage to safety after several protesters carrying Palestine flags descended out of nowhere to interrupt the show.

The Channel 9 cameras during the live broadcast were filming hosts David Campbell and Sarah Abdo when the incident unfolded on Sunday.

One protester even tried to grab the microphone from Mr Campbell, managing to say “while you’re carolling, kids are dying in Gaza” before the audio was cut.

Mr Campbell interrupted his scripted dialogue when he realised the commotion on stage wasn’t part of the show.

“Hang on one second,” he said.

“Nice and easy.”

The singer tried to keep the crowd calm and informed as security guards removed the protesters from the stage.

“It’s all good, thank you everybody, everyone’s allowed to have their moment,” Mr Campbell said.

“The kids are safe, and they’re going to come back out.

“It’s important to come together on a night like this too when there’s a lot of pain out there and a lot of people are experiencing it.”

Don’t Victorian coppers have tear gas and truncheons?

Rabz
December 24, 2023 9:42 pm

the Perfesser Bunyip – he is sadly missed.

Pogs, if it’s any consolation – he is alive and well and a commenter on this blogue.

Trust me on this. 🙂

Cassie of Sydney
December 24, 2023 9:45 pm

She is a proud Jew who can take joy in the Happy Rituals of Christians. She also seriously presses the obvious that, as I linked in a comment upthread, first they come for the Jews, then they come for the others.”

Absolutely 100% correct, Pogs.

Rabz
December 24, 2023 9:48 pm

Carols by Candlelight interrupted by Pallyweirdos in Mosquebourne …

Well, colour me completely unsurprised.

Staggeringly stupid collectivist cockheads* have enabled this inexcusable idiocy.

*Trigger warning: Staggeringly stupid hideously uglee collectivist cockhead

Cassie of Sydney
December 24, 2023 9:49 pm

If anyone is still under the delusion that the protesters for Jew hatred aka the ‘pro-Palestinian protesters aren’t also out to destroy Christianity, tonight’s Carols by Candlelight protest should settle any doubts, misgivings, and reservations.

Rabz
December 24, 2023 9:51 pm

Cass – we know.

Time for some beauty – Well, the rim of her mouth was golden

Cassie of Sydney
December 24, 2023 9:52 pm

All of these Jew hating protests and protesters have been given succour by this Jew hating government.

Forget about grinches stealing Christmas, we are now seeing leftist progressive scum destroy Christmas.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 24, 2023 9:53 pm

More, from the article in the Oz.

Executive Council of Australian Jewry co-CEO Alex Ryvchin condemned the disruption on Sunday.

“You can always count on anti-Israel extremists to make everything about them and to appall decent, ordinary people,” Mr Ryvchin said.

“The chorus of boos tells them loud and clear they’re not wanted.”

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 9:53 pm

Rabz,
thanks for letting me know about the Prof. Muchos grazias!
At this time of year, I think back to a lot of the Blair Brethren who were so much like family.
Surfmaster
Don’t Borgart that Midget Comrade
El Cid, who was, sadly, deposed from his own blog by the conniving A….
Texas Bob, wonderful man, also reamed by A….
Many others whom I really need to go back through the archives once more to raise a glass to them, as if I need an excuse!
A big shout out to Nilk, who also yarded a lot of us after the demise of Cat 1 and kept us in a holding pattern until we finally ended up in Dover’s paddock.
Boo Yah!

Rabz
December 24, 2023 9:55 pm
Cassie of Sydney
December 24, 2023 9:55 pm

Our wonder what our resident pervert apologist thinks of this pro-Palestinian protest? He probably thinks it’s a hoot, just like he thinks cocks in frocks who assault women are a hoot.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 24, 2023 9:56 pm

This one’s for male Cats, over sixty years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgd9hitEAE&list=RDMM&index=5

MatrixTransform
December 24, 2023 9:58 pm

our resident pervert apologist

bet he’s putting on his hi-vis Mao-suit right now

miltonf
miltonf
December 24, 2023 9:59 pm

It’s all cultural marxism/critical theory whether it’s the fat turd’s pollution of this blog or disrupting carols by candlelight. At present there is a confluence of interests for marxist wreckers and arab Israel haters.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 24, 2023 9:59 pm

I read last week that an average of two churches in W. Europe are now being torched or otherwise vandalised, attacked or desecrated per week. Everybody knows who’s responsible.

Those responsible are the pussies standing around charging their EVs

Zatara
Zatara
December 24, 2023 10:00 pm

“… several protesters carrying Palestine flags descended out of nowhere to interrupt the show.”

Forgive my disbelief that this happened without anyone knowing it was in play.

Muslims aren’t the only antisemitics or pro-Hamas after all.

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 10:01 pm

Don’t Victorian coppers have tear gas and truncheons?

Don’t Victorian Parents have Gumption?
Forget the Effing Stasi, the Parents should have stormed the stage and belted the crap out of the stinking filth that that breathed the same air as their children.
What the hell will it take?

Rabz
December 24, 2023 10:02 pm

err, Matrix – I missed the comment about the tragedy that has befallen you.

So here’s some Sweet Jane

The Velvets: Sweet Jane

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 24, 2023 10:03 pm

It’s pretty funny seeing tower cranes being used with the restoration of Notre Dame.

They did not have them back when it was built.

You can be sure many involved with this project will go to bed asking themselves “how the f*ck did they do this?” whilst staring at the ceiling.

Tartarian people from above laugh their box off.

How is the restoration of Notre Dame Cathedral going? | Focus on Europe

Rabz
December 24, 2023 10:04 pm

What the hell will it take?

A course of action that is not embarked on lightly.

Crossie
Crossie
December 24, 2023 10:06 pm

Children performing were rushed from the Sidney Myer Music Bowl stage to safety after several protesters carrying Palestine flags descended out of nowhere to interrupt the show.

Out of nowhere? Hardly, though it does highlight Victorian police ineptness.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2023 10:08 pm

In line with other commentary on this august journal of record – Pretending Not To Be Gay News (the Tele):

David Sharaz first noticed Brittany Higgins when he was working as a producer for Karl Stefanovic’s brother Pete on his Sky News breakfast program.

It was May 2020 and Mr Sharaz had recently separated from his first wife, a Labor staffer called Alexandra Craig.

Okay.

She later described the circumstances of their marriage breakdown just short of two years later as “challenging”.

Uh huh.

The couple separated in January 2020. She kept the apartment. He moved into the Nishi building, the same venue where he had spent his wedding night.

Beginning to slip off the spinning plate….

Just a few months later, the newly single Mr Sharaz watched the “beautiful” Ms Higgins walk through the door of a Parliament House television studio, a fateful moment that changed the course of both of their lives.

Seven months after that first date,

No mention of a first date in the piece.

Ms Higgins and Mr Sharaz recounted the story in a room with Lisa Wilkinson and her producer Angus Llewellyn, who recorded the discussion on his iPhone as a pre-interview for The Project.

“Yeah it happened quickly. Yeah. It’s all good,” Ms Higgins tells Ms Wilkinson of their relationship in a recording transcript published by the Federal Court.

Flat spin, heading out to sea.

By the end of the year, the busy media adviser and her TV producer boyfriend were sharing an apartment.

He had left Sky and spent about three months working for the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet before leaving that job to work for a media monitoring group.

But there was another project they were working on. They had started talking about whether she should “go public” with a secret she had kept for years – her alleged rape.

Eject! Eject! Eject!

Crossie
Crossie
December 24, 2023 10:09 pm

Zatara
Dec 24, 2023 10:00 PM
“… several protesters carrying Palestine flags descended out of nowhere to interrupt the show.”

Forgive my disbelief that this happened without anyone knowing it was in play.

Watching the Melbourne Comedy Festival pretending to do Carols by Candlelight I bet most of them knew and assisted the protesters.

MatrixTransform
December 24, 2023 10:11 pm
Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 10:12 pm

Steve Trickle,
Erik von Daniken called, he wants you to stop doing a Claudine Gay with his work.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 24, 2023 10:12 pm

Notre Dame getting set on fire is consistent with all the other Old World buildings from around the globe getting set on fire. Erasing history.

Modern day architecture is like a child with a lego set.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 24, 2023 10:14 pm

Pogria
Dec 24, 2023 10:12 PM
Steve Trickle,
Erik von Daniken called, he wants you to stop doing a Claudine Gay with his work.

Another mainstream sponge.

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 10:22 pm

Matrix,
Calling all Angels is beautiful. I have never heard it.
Here’s one I have always loved at times like this.
Somehow I’ll find my way home.

Rabz
December 24, 2023 10:22 pm

Modern Arkytecture is sh!t.

So don’t go quoting me anytime soon, Cats – unless you really, really have to … 🙂

Jorge
Jorge
December 24, 2023 10:24 pm

Blair Cottrell reporting Antifa firebombed the car of his friend’s pregnant wife last night. They thought it was her husband’s.

ASIO spends a third of its budget combating right wing extremism but left wing kooks get a pass. Media not interested. Were it the other way round this would be the major news story over Christmas.

Crossie
Crossie
December 24, 2023 10:28 pm

Rabz
Dec 24, 2023 10:22 PM
Modern Arkytecture is sh!t.

Of course it is, ugly, useless and expensive. Its saving grace is that it will be short lived.

Dot
Dot
December 24, 2023 10:28 pm

Perhaps it’s time others followed Eva’s example, you might even meet a women who looks like just like Eva.

No such luck tonight.

Also, no pro Hamas clowns and no welcome to country.

MatrixTransform
December 24, 2023 10:31 pm

thanks Pogria

here’s on for ya … Paul Kelly

Rabz
December 24, 2023 10:37 pm

Hey, Miss Eva Vlaardingerbroek,
Goil, I just wanna [redacted] …

JC
JC
December 24, 2023 10:38 pm

Modern Arkytecture is sh!t.

So don’t go quoting me anytime soon, Cats – unless you really, really have to … ?

Totally agree

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 24, 2023 10:42 pm

Tartarian Santa, shortly:

You get a cathedral!’

You get a cathedral!’

You get a castle!’

You get a council hall!’

Joy to the world!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 24, 2023 10:43 pm

Crossie
Dec 24, 2023 10:28 PM
Rabz
Dec 24, 2023 10:22 PM
Modern Arkytecture is sh!t.

Of course it is, ugly, useless and expensive. Its saving grace is that it will be short lived.

Not directed at you, Rabz.

The Old World used Geo-Polymer. Concrete buildings today are crap and will be f*cked within 100 years … or less

Notice that all the OLD WORLD buildings have very little decay. Those horse and cart people were smart.

Ha!

sarc

JC
JC
December 24, 2023 10:43 pm
JC
JC
December 24, 2023 10:46 pm
Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 10:50 pm

Matrix,
that was great, thanks. I remember Paul Kelly when he had the Dots!

I have one more for you. I reckon it encompasses you, Cassie’s mob, the last few months, Christmas, Calli’s Dad, hell, everything most of us, that feel, are feeling right now.
It has been done, technically better many times. But, to my ears, there can be only One.

Rabz
December 24, 2023 10:52 pm

OK, Cats – here’s the uncensored text:

Rabz: Goil, I just wanna take you on a tour of some the most hideously uglee Arkytechtural monstrosities to have existed in human history! 🙂

Miss Eva Vlaardindergbroek: F*#k you Rabz, you tasteless f^%$#it! 🙁

JC
JC
December 24, 2023 10:56 pm

Yeah we know, you’ve been baying about Brutalism for the past decade. But pairing all modern architecture as brutalist is a pretty broad brush and not realistic.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 24, 2023 10:57 pm

Megan

Dec 24, 2023 9:31 PM

I can’t remember the last time I was so sheepish about buying a publication and had to insist on a plain wrapper before I left the shop.

Hope you made full use of the free antiseptic gel after handing it over to the sales clerk.

Plenty of free advice about baulking at the buy.
Truth is, it’s for someone who has had a very tough time after a stroke and apparently got fixated on reading it.
Normally I’d refuse and buy something else, but when his wife assigned me that gift suggestion I decided to wear it.
He’ll probably bin it after twenty pages anyway.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 24, 2023 10:59 pm

Goil, I just wanna [redacted] …

Discuss Ugandan affairs with?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 24, 2023 11:01 pm

Build these places today. Good luck.

Cost will have eff all to do with it. Ability is the key. A modern day Architect and building firm would sh*t their pants!

Ancient Budapest?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 24, 2023 11:02 pm

It was May 2020 and Mr Sharaz had recently separated from his first wife, a Labor staffer called Alexandra Craig.

Okay.

She later described the circumstances of their marriage breakdown just short of two years later as “challenging”.

Wasn’t that the wedding where the tables were named after Labor Luminaries?

Rabz
December 24, 2023 11:02 pm

Cats – I think that counts as yet another successful night out with a personage of the opposite gender! 🙂

JC
JC
December 24, 2023 11:06 pm

Very few people are able to make horse buggies these days, Tickler.

What’s your point?

Just because an old specialised trade is lost doesn’t mean much.

Megan
Megan
December 24, 2023 11:06 pm

Wasn’t that the wedding where the tables were named after Labor Luminaries?

Yes, but they were actually Labor Wankers.

JC
JC
December 24, 2023 11:10 pm

LOL.. This would be close to being the ultimate putdown.

Trump Tells Hugh Hewitt Kamala Harris Would ‘Be Better’ Than Biden as President

Rabz
December 24, 2023 11:11 pm

When you’re expecting Miss Eva and Miss Ellen turns up instead … 😕

Megan
Megan
December 24, 2023 11:12 pm

Sorry to hear your sad news, MT. Sending you and yours strength for the journey ahead and much light for the way.

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 11:19 pm

Just because I have always loved this movie.
And Damn! have always had a yen for Rutger Hauer.
We need a happy ending in our lives, even if it is only a celluloid one.

C.L.
C.L.
December 24, 2023 11:20 pm

Still my favourite Trump destruction…

Taking out Megyn Kelly and spontaneously deciding to take out Wolf as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9xokE0fRok&t=22s

C.L.
C.L.
December 24, 2023 11:21 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 24, 2023 11:23 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p3DzUwxI0o

Billy Joel “We Didn’t Start the Fire.” You know you are getting on, in years, when you understand all the historical references…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 24, 2023 11:26 pm

JC
Dec 24, 2023 11:06 PM
Very few people are able to make horse buggies these days, Tickler.

What’s your point?

Just because an old specialised trade is lost doesn’t mean much.

History is borked. It’s shit. You can NOT build those buildings with a horse a cart.

All the best. Enjoy family time .

JC
JC
December 24, 2023 11:33 pm

You can NOT build those buildings with a horse a cart.

They literally used horse carts to assist in construction of those buildings. Tickler, Budapest is a uniquely beautiful city, but that’s not the norm. It was a fluke due to a host of reasons. Lots of money during the time it was the second capital of the Austro-Hungarian empire would’ve helped.

All the best. Enjoy family time .

And to you.

JC
JC
December 24, 2023 11:37 pm

Budapest: A Journey Through Time

Budapest, the heart and soul of Hungary, came to life in 1873 with the unification of three historically rich cities: Buda, Óbuda, and Pest. With a population nearing 2 million, this city is the epicenter of Hungarian administration, culture, economics, science, trade, and transportation. Much like Berlin, with its profound history and cultural wonders, which you can explore in-depth here, Budapest sprawls majestically on both sides of the Danube River.

The city is structured into 23 distinct districts, with the majority lying in Pest. Buda, with its rolling hills, stands in stark contrast to Pest’s expansive plains. Dominating the Buda landscape is the magnificent Gellért Hill, rising to 235 meters, presenting an unmatched panorama of Budapest. Linking the two sides are nine emblematic bridges. All, save for the Erzsébet híd, underwent reconstruction after their destruction during WWII, a testament to Budapest’s relentless spirit.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 24, 2023 11:38 pm

@Pogria
What you wrote in your comment is pretty much a synopsis of the article by Naomi Wolf.
She is a proud Jew who can take joy in the Happy Rituals of Christians.

Aside from rituals, it’s not difficult at all to recognise and appreciate the culture and values of our dominant Christian based society while disputing theological points.

Pogria
Pogria
December 24, 2023 11:43 pm

I linked earlier to Hallelujah.
Unfortunately, with the maelstrom the world is caught in, we need to be aware of the flip side.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 24, 2023 11:47 pm

From the Oz. I’ve only posted part of the article.

‘One does not argue with vermin’: Hatred of the Jews returns

Jews are not seen as individual human beings but as something dangerous in the eyes of many says Alex Ryvchin, in a disturbing new book tracing the origins of anti-Semitism.
By alex ryvchin
From Review
December 23, 2023
12 minute read
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My family left the Soviet Union as refugees when I was three years old. Our eventual freedom, and that of millions of families like mine, was the culmination of a decades-long international campaign under the banner “Let my people go”, which pressured the Soviet government to allow its Jewish population to leave.

As the Australian diplomat Douglas White put it when raising the matter at the UN, “should the USSR find difficulty in according Soviet Jewry full freedom to practise their religion, it has a moral obligation to permit them to leave the country”.

Of course, the Soviet position was that anti-Semitism belonged to the previous regime and any suggestion that the Jewish population faced institutional racism was just Cold War-era mischief making. In reality, Soviet Jews suffered immensely. Their identity papers were marked as “Jewish” regardless of how long families like mine traced their roots in those lands, or how integrated they strove to be.

Aside from having no freedom to practise their faith, Jews were subjected to racial restrictions, including entry quotas into universities, thereby excluding them from certain professions, and a prohibition on Jewish cultural practices including the printing of Hebrew-language publications. No other nationality or ethnic group suffered such measures.

This institutional anti-Semitism began in Tsarist times and had established the Jews as people of no worth, to be ridiculed and discarded. In George Orwell’s Down and Out in Paris and London, a retired Russian army officer tells Orwell how in the army it was considered poor form to spit on a Jew “because a Russian officer’s spittle was too precious to be wasted on Jews”.

In the 17th century, the Ukrainian nationalist figure Bogdan Chmelnitski and his horsemen unleashed such carnage on Jewish communities that to read the accounts of them leads one to call humanity into question. These crimes set a certain rhythm whereby any upheaval, any discontent, any pursuit of political transformation resulted in Jewish communities being set upon with a perverted delight and with total impunity.

It happened throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries often at the instigation of the authorities. It happened during the civil war that followed the Bolshevik Revolution. And it happened during the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union, resulting in 1.5 million Jews disappearing in forest pits and ravines and burning warehouses, through every method of torturous and unnatural death imaginable.

The permanent fear of mob violence and the injustice of racist laws was a fact of life but the vulgarity and public humiliations the Jews experienced in the street, on the trolleybus, in the shop queue, stung bitterly and daily. It was not uncommon for irate citizens standing in futility to buy basic necessities to break out into curses and cries about the Jews. “If there’s no water in the taps, the Jews drank it all,” was one common refrain. “Beat the Jews, save our Russia,” was another. Every Jewish boy had taken regular beatings in the schoolyard. My father’s lunchtime football games would quickly descend into spirited bouts of “catch the Jew”.

My grandmother had once thrown herself upon her elder brother’s prone body to protect him from the boots of anti-Semitic thugs that were striking his ribs and skull. My mother, who lived a block away from a Holocaust-era killing field in Kyiv known as Babi Yar, experienced anti-Semitism like a daily ritual. As her trolleybus approached her destination and the conductor called out, “next stop, Babi Yar,” every day, without fail, one of the drunks dozing peacefully would suddenly return to lucidity, sit bolt upright, and cry out and cackle and lament, “if only they’d shot all you Jews here!”

My father would tell me of how admired he was by his pupils in the town high school where he taught maths and physics. He was a young, dynamic and passionate teacher. Then one day, a rumour circulated the schoolyard, that he, their beloved mentor, was in fact a Jew. The students filed into his office, one by one, to ask if this was really so, and to offer their condolences. “But how could this be?” one boy asked him with great earnestness, “you’re such a good person.”

As a boy, my father had made the mistake of asking one of the old town matriarchs why the area on the edge of the town limits was called a ravine when it was in fact completely flat.

“Ah my boy,” she answered with great pride, “it was a ravine, until we filled it with Jews.”

My father had once asked his father why he kept an axe permanently positioned by the front door. He had never seen it used. His father took a sharp breath, sat his son down and asked him if he knew the word “pogrom”.

Eli Wiesel survived the hellscape of Auschwitz and became a Nobel Laureate. In the 1960s, he travelled to the Soviet Union, including to my birthplace of Kyiv, to see for himself the conditions under which the Jews there lived. He then recorded his observations in a book titled The Jews of Silence. Wiesel wrote that one thing struck him about the Jews there above all others. It was their fear. Fear inhabited the eyes of every Jew he encountered without exception. That fear came from the individual traumas described, some variation of which had been experienced by every Jew. But it also came from a collective panic from opening the papers to see the “rootless cosmopolitans” and “Zionist bankers” denounced, cartoons of great hook-nosed creatures preying upon the decent citizens of the state. Leaving the Soviet Union at the age of three, I of course had no personal experience of any of this but I witnessed this in my parents and grandparents. The fear and trauma are not easily dislodged, not even by the safety and distance of Australia. It presents as a sort of nervous energy, a perpetual sense of looming calamity, a tendency to experience joy as an interval between disasters, and a stiffening of the face the second the word “Jew” is heard.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 25, 2023 12:04 am

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone.

Jorge
Jorge
December 25, 2023 12:04 am

“You’ve called women you don’t like fat pigs, dogs, slobs.”

Trump (raising index finger): “Only Rosie O’Donnell.”

Small smile. Audience cheers wildly.

Rabz
December 25, 2023 12:10 am

Have a Merry Christmas, Cats – you know you want to!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 25, 2023 12:19 am

The Christmas tradition of watching the Christmas Carols at the Myer Music Bowl on TV is over for me.

1. Not enough carols, unknown “artists” singing crap;
2. Allowing protestors who support murder onto the stage, and giving them an audience in front of children;
3. Putting a semi-bleck in a white frock with hairy armpits and a moustache on stage trying to sing;

The few beautifully sung Christmas Carols were smothered by the other crap.

Mr Myer would be rolling in his grave.

rosie
rosie
December 25, 2023 3:25 am

Why don’t you go jump trickler, disrespecting Christianity on this holy day with your tartaria piffle?

rosie
rosie
December 25, 2023 3:33 am

The French revolutionaries tried to destroy Notre Dame, it was rebuilt, if muslims were responsible for the damage this time, it is being rebuilt.
I remember visiting the cathedral in Orlean, destroyed and rebuilt several times, once by vindictive Huguenots who collapsed the internal pillars.
They destroyed hundreds of churches in France, then the revolutionary scum destroyed two thirds of all France’s churches.
The Church, a remnant survives.
Merry Christmas everyone.

rosie
rosie
December 25, 2023 3:37 am

Bless all those who experienced recent loss especially the families of the young men giving their lives to protect Israel.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 25, 2023 6:13 am

Merry Christmas to all gatti e gattine and thank you to dover_beach for this haven of discussion and sanity for the most part — the sun is making a valiant attempt to come out behind the clouds, however, whatever the weather I am celebrating the birthday of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I believe in his goodness and that of
His faithful followers. May his message of truth continue to survive and thrive and to bring light unto a darkening world.

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 7:49 am

It’s Christmas, the BEST time of the Year. Merry Christmas to all Cats and their families and once again, many thanks to dover for giving us this place.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 25, 2023 9:18 am

Wasn’t that the wedding where the tables were named after Labor Luminaries?

A literal red flag.

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