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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 21, 2024 8:32 pm

Indoctrination’: Childcare kids told land stolen from Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people

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By alexi demetriadi
NSW Political Reporter
and natasha bita
Education Editor
8:06PM January 21, 2024
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Toddlers and pre-schoolers in some childcare centres are being taught that Australia was stolen from Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, in ceremonies branded as “indoctrination’’ on the eve of Australia Day.

More than 7000 schools and daycare centres have a formal “acknowledgement of country’’ in place, which can include children singing or reciting that the land belonged to Indigenous people.

At SDN Children’s Services Bluebell in the ACT, kindy kids are taught about “stolen land’’ as they recite an Acknowledgement of Country each morning.

“The preschool children are used to acknowledging Country, and know they gather on Ngunnawal land, the place of the Ngunnawal and Ngambri peoples,’’ the centre states on its website.

“The foundation for this learning begins when the children enter the centre as infants.

“Now older, preschoolers participate in enquiry-based learning – the daily ritual of acknowledging Country is built upon with explicit teaching about stolen land.’’

The SDN childcare centre is among 7097 schools and daycare centres that Reconciliation Australia has registered for Welcome to Country ceremonies, or that have Acknowledgement of Country statements displayed in classrooms or recited during school assemblies or morning greetings.

After some supermarkets dumped the sale of Australia Day merchandise this year, sensitivities over the January 26 date – which marks the arrival of the First Fleet in 1788 – are causing some daycare centres to shy away from celebrations.

A leading provider of childcare resources, Aussie Childcare Network, has compiled a calendar of events that lists January 26 as “Yabun, celebrating Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Cultures, Invasion Day, Survival Day, Australia Day”.

The network suggests that centres could commemorate Australia Day by flying the Aboriginal flag at half-mast, observing a moment of silence, or including an Acknowledgement of Country in the morning, or even celebrating on a different date altogether.

NSW Libertarian Party MP John Ruddick said children were being “indoctrinated to feel ashamed of their country’’.

“Every nation has a national day to reflect on what’s good about their homeland,” he said.

“Seems to be only in Australia we have this ever-escalating culture war and now we’re doing all we can to indoctrinate infants to be ashamed of their country.’’

Indigenous leader Warren Mundine – who campaigned against the Indigenous voice to parliament in last year’s referendum – said childcare centres should not be caught up in “culture wars’’. “Don’t they realise the largest group of Australians want to celebrate Australia,’’ he said. “The elite minority need to stop attacking Australia and Australians.’’

Indigenous Liberal Party senator Kerrynne Liddle said “Australia Day is a day to celebrate for all Australians’’.

She said that changing the day “was not going to make a difference to the lives of Indigenous people’’.

“I’m very frustrated with the ongoing conversation around these things, when we have appalling domestic and family violence rates, with Indigenous Australians disproportionately represented,’’ she said. “Focus on improving the best possible services, and practical things. That’s the way to be inclusive and ensure all Indigenous people receive the best possible service and treatment.’’

The childcare regulator requires centres to “embed’’ First Nations perspectives in teaching and activities. Its official curriculum for childcare centres says students should be aware of cultural events including Easter, Harmony Day, NAIDOC (National Aborigines’ and Islanders’ Day), and Sorry Business of Indigenous mourning.

It makes no mention of Australia Day.

Early Childhood Australia chief executive Samantha Page said daycare providers “need to be mindful of the different connotations (Australia Day) has for First Nations families’’. “We’ve stopped short of providing too much direction,’’ she said. “It’s the date that’s controversial.’’

Cassie of Sydney
January 21, 2024 8:36 pm

In which case the Union was torturing an entire population, not just soldiers.

Err what? So you’re blaming the Union for the fact that the south, the Confederates, engaged in torture? You lament the Confederacy?

Roger
Roger
January 21, 2024 8:36 pm

More than 7000 schools and daycare centres have a formal “acknowledgement of country’’ in place, which can include children singing or reciting that the land belonged to Indigenous people.

“Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone.”

Robert Sewell
January 21, 2024 8:37 pm

Oh come on

Jan 21, 2024 5:08 PM
for the first time I saw a Chrysler 300C today
Really? They’re reasonably common. You should buy one if you’re into them. I agree they’re an interesting alternative to your standard large sedan. I wonder if they have reliability issues, however (don’t trust modern Chryslers, although this could be confined to Jeep).

I had a quick look at Carsales, you can pick up a 6.1litre V8 for about $35k.
And why not? Bugger the fuel cost.

Crossie
Crossie
January 21, 2024 8:40 pm

Oh dear, Adam Creighton thinks Kristie Noem, the governor of South
Dakota is a conservative and would make a good VP for Trump. Tsk, tsk Adam, attractive and articulate is not conservative. She has made some mistakes that a conservative wouldn’t have, Trump can do better.

Roger
Roger
January 21, 2024 8:40 pm

Err what? So you’re blaming the Union for the fact that the south, the Confederates, engaged in torture?

You’re putting words in my mouth, Cassie.

I’m not even convinced the Confederates engaged in torture.

Most historians now agree that the indictment of the commandant of that camp on war crimes charges was a miscarriage of justice.

Rabz
January 21, 2024 8:41 pm

Starvation is a form of torture

Given that many, many western wallies are among the most “well upholstered” individuals to have existed in human history, their gaolers are more likely to starve to death before their prisoners.

“Oh, come on, Squire, just give me a crumb off one of those corn chippies, I asks ya!”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 21, 2024 8:41 pm

Let’s have some Cap’n Beefheart*, Cats!

Lurking as I did, alongst the second hand dives of Pitt and Castlereagh Sts in the late seventies and early eighties, I often saw copies of Captain Beafheart and Taj Mahal. The album covers were interesting, but I was so poor I could not afford to buy much stuff on spec. No internet then, to look them up.

So instead I bought Pink Floyd and Steeleye Span and Sky. Served just fine, although now I wish I’d gotten into Taj Mahal’s bluest of blues. I had no idea then who he was or what he did.

It’s why I like YouTube, I can listen to these tracks now. Not turning off my adblocker but.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 21, 2024 8:44 pm

Most historians now agree that the indictment of the commandant of that camp on war crimes charges was a miscarriage of justice.

Much good that did him – he was hanged in 1865.

miltonf
miltonf
January 21, 2024 8:47 pm

Samantha holds a Master’s Degree in (Community) Management from the University of Technology, Sydney and she is a Graduate of the Company Directors course offered by the Australian Institute of Company Directors. Her passion is for social equality and she has worked in the non-government sector for 20 years across roles encompassing service delivery, executive management, consulting, social policy analysis and advocacy. She has extensive experience in the development and implementation of social policy and sector development projects.
Another campus marxist

miltonf
miltonf
January 21, 2024 8:49 pm

I seem to recall Rabbi Raymond Apple doing the morning Bible readings sometimes on 2FC.

Roger
Roger
January 21, 2024 8:50 pm

Much good that did him – he was hanged in 1865.

Yes, to appease northern opinion.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
January 21, 2024 8:52 pm

Saw ‘The Iron Claw’ today. I would recommend it to all Cats. The wrestling scenes are fabulous. Bring a few tissues if you are prone to blubber a bit.

cohenite
January 21, 2024 8:54 pm

This came through:

Go Dutch . . .?

The Netherlands, where six per cent of the population is now Muslim, is scrapping multiculturalism.

The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel society within the Netherlands .

A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads: “The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people”.

In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role.

With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society.

The letter continues: “A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens.”

It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands. The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants who ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.

The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner;
“It is not the government’s job to integrate immigrants.”

The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress.

More specifically, the government imposed a ban on face-covering, Islamic burqas as of January 1.

Holland has done that whole liberal thing, and realized – maybe too late – that creating a nation of tribes, will kill the nation itself.

The future of Australia, the UK, USA and Canada may well be read here.

READERS NOTE: Muslim immigrants leave their countries of birth because of civil and political unrest .. .”CREATED BY THE VERY NATURE OF THEIR CULTURE.”

Countries like Holland, Canada, USA the UK and Australia have an established way of life that actually works, so why embrace the unworkable? If Muslims do not wish to accept another culture, the answer is simple;

“STAY WHERE YOU ARE!!”

This gives a whole new meaning to the term, ‘Dutch Courage’ … Unfortunately Australian, UK, USA and Canadian politicians don’t have the … guts to do the same. There’s a whole lot of truth here!!!! ELECTIONS are COMING!!!!!

A Nation of Sheep, Breeds a Government of Wolves!

Let’s Take a Stand!!!

Borders: Closed!

Language: English!

Culture: The Constitution, is the Bill of Rights!

NO freebies to : Non-Citizens! We the people are coming!!!

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 21, 2024 8:56 pm

If Trump makes it to the convention, I reckon he will nominate a black man as his VP.
A very cool brother.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 21, 2024 9:00 pm

IIRC, Their ABC warned Louse Milligan about her use of social media, but she used it anyway, and Their ABC subsequently bailed Seven Nilligan out with lotsa cash.
That is the leg Lattouf seems to be standing on.

Milligan’s legal bills are a hot button issue within the ABC.
So much so that senior journo’s were told that if Milligan lost future cases from her social media adventures, she would have to foot the bill.
However that was quickly shown to be a lie from management aimed at placating the mob.

I look forward to more leaks from the ABC.

Rosie
Rosie
January 21, 2024 9:04 pm

Kanye?

P
P
January 21, 2024 9:08 pm

If Trump makes it to the convention, I reckon he will nominate a black man as his VP.

Ben Carson?

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 21, 2024 9:09 pm

Racisty racists! Shannon Deery in the Hun:

The state opposition has ruled out supporting a Treaty with Indigenous Victorians.

The move puts Victoria’s Treaty process under a cloud with bipartisan support considered critical to any successful negotiations.

Shadow Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, Peter Walsh, on Sunday told Sky News the Opposition no longer supported a Treaty.

In the wake of the failed Voice referendum, opposition leader John Pesutto faced pressure to walk back support for a Victorian Treaty.

Senior Liberals said there was a view from the party’s federal counterparts that supporting a Victorian Treaty would be “unacceptable” following the referendum result.

They foreshadowed the issue emerging as a key challenge to Mr Pesutto’s leadership.

The Liberal Party’s state council last year backed a motion calling on the State Parliamentary team to oppose a Victorian Treaty.

“This proposal is to advance 3 per cent of the population over the interest of 97 per cent of the state,” the motion said.

“It is totally against any democracy. It would allow a very small part of the population to take control of our resources to the detriment of our economic and coherent right to exist. Apartheid in reverse!

“If you need any proof of the damage that this treaty would do to our way of life, look no further than Western Australia or New Zealand.”

The Coalition last year offered bipartisan support for the establishment of a Treaty Authority to support future Treaty negotiations between Aboriginal Victorians and the State of Victoria.

The matter of reversing the state party’s position on Treaty had been raised at at least one recent partyroom meeting.

Again this Treaty will not improve the lives of any black fellas except those administering it. Well their bank balances I should say.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 21, 2024 9:10 pm

DEI-obsessed Yale Law dean Heather Gerken ‘is in running to be college’s next president’ – despite shaming conservative student in email, letting woke students cancel speaker and hiring trainer claiming anti-Semitic hate crime numbers are exaggerated

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I bet her PhD citations are immaculate.

Bespoke
Bespoke
January 21, 2024 9:10 pm

Vivek?

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
January 21, 2024 9:11 pm

Every human is the result of various revolutions of progress, isolation and migration and non should make special claims because of it. FFS. What is wrong with these people?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 21, 2024 9:16 pm

If Trump makes it to the convention, I reckon he will nominate a black man as his VP.

Ben Carson?

Tim Scott perhaps. There’re signs.
I’d still prefer Sarah Palin.
Other than Trump no one is as battle hardened as she is.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 21, 2024 9:17 pm

Kanye

The trick of picking a VP is to choose someone so utterly frightful that nobody wants to assassinate the president lest the VP get the job.

Which is how we got Kamala.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 21, 2024 9:17 pm

Apart from ruling out Herschel Walker, it could be anyone.
As long as they are a black man & cool.

Muddy
Muddy
January 21, 2024 9:18 pm

the ‘oldest living culture on the planet’

The claim suggests that one common culture shared over an enormous geographical area has existed without interruption or change due to natural or human influence, for 60,000-odd years. I suppose they DO have the reconstructed* oral history to prove it?

*I don’t personally object to reconstructed elements being regarded as culturally important (to some extent, ‘western’ cultures are based on myths, for example), but the naked dishonesty in depicting the same as ‘original and authentic’ is unswallowable. As is the fact that a percentage of these reconstructions have been enabled by the European observation and recording of early post-settlement indigenous beliefs and rituals. No, there’s no need to thank our ancestors.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 21, 2024 9:20 pm

No, they have two objectives, one political, putting a price on international support for Israel as well as hindering Israeli trade. The other is to open another front against the US and potentially set up another trap.

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That’s right. It’s not a regional battle. They think they can turn the world against Tha Joos then flick them off without anyone caring. The other front is the continuation of the UN demolition of US influence.
.
We need them to fail, and fail miserably and absolutely. For our grandchildren and then their grandchildren.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 21, 2024 9:22 pm

Fetterman’s strokes are more manageable than Herschel Walker’s CTE.
Malice live streamed himself reading chunks of Walkers autobiography.
The guy has issues.

Robert Sewell
January 21, 2024 9:22 pm

GreyRanga
Jan 21, 2024 5:16 PM
The hemi engine in the 300C is not a good engine to potter around town with stop start driving. The camshaft sits too high in the block and doesn’t get enough oil on the lobes which leads to premature wear.
Any other quirks? I’m still waiting for the insurance company to make a decision for the 380. As I’ve never owned a V8, I wouldn’t mind one to potter up and down to the Big Smoke with. They need a roo bar though – not for protection – more for the flair, I reckon.
…and a towbar.
Maybe some fluffy dice.

Alamak!
January 21, 2024 9:24 pm

So instead I bought Pink Floyd and Steeleye Span and Sky. Served just fine, although now I wish I’d gotten into Taj Mahal’s bluest of blues. I had no idea then who he was or what he did.

It’s why I like YouTube, I can listen to these tracks now. Not turning off my adblocker but.

Mix tapes made it possible to listen to stuff not on the radio or stereo. Stooges and Radio Birdman sounded great if played loud, even on tape.

Robert Sewell
January 21, 2024 9:24 pm

Katzenjammer
Jan 21, 2024 6:42 PM

but what has that got to do with how ridiculous they look?

Goose stepping Nazis and Italian fascists looked ridiculous.
Every time I see those poor bloody Nork girls doing that goosestep, I think about how close they are to snapping a tendon, and if that happens, its unrecoverable – literally.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 21, 2024 9:27 pm

the ‘oldest living culture on the planet’

the oldest stagnant culture on the planet riddled with animalist folk tales with less moral foundation than Aesop’s simplistic talking beasts.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 21, 2024 9:34 pm

but what has that got to do with how ridiculous they look?

Goose stepping Nazis and Italian fascists looked ridiculous

They looked ridiculous but left a permanent stain across the whole of Europe. It’s self satisfying to point out how comic they appear, but that’s in no way a valid appraisal of their influence on future tendancies.

Robert Sewell
January 21, 2024 9:34 pm

Katzenjammer
Jan 21, 2024 6:55 PM

hooties prepare for war

A couple of years ago a few reports appeared about Iran’s mini aircraft carrier – a smaller and much faster version with hundreds of drones with various surveillance and weapon capabilities.That’s possibly something Australia should have, held at selected ports distributed around our coast.

That’s an interesting concept. Perhaps a fleet of 5 of those aluminium thingies we’re selling to the US, with a couple of hundred variable payload drones each. Considering the speed they can do, 1 each in Perf, D town and Cairns, and two sitting idle because we can’t get crew for them.

Robert Sewell
January 21, 2024 9:35 pm

Katzenjammer

Jan 21, 2024 6:01 PM
Amusing listening to people make fun of the Houthies
The snide views above, about their parade, have forgotten one of the first rules of war – don’t underestimate the enemy.

Damn straight, Katzenbloke.
Those mines on the backs of trucks weren’t just for show. They were a very clear message about their ability to block a lot of trade routes.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 21, 2024 9:37 pm

Same reason I’m against First Nations ideology, Eyrie. Those responsible are long gone.
Who is holding the current British to account for this? Only those British who perpetrated it at the time. Bastards, all over a grab for Boer gold.
Same as you don’t hold current Germans accountable for the crimes of the Nazis.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 21, 2024 9:40 pm

The guy in the crowd was probably trolling. He’s still worthy of a clip around the ear.

If I was in the crowd, I’d be telling him to go get a booster! W*nker!

Novak was cool about it.

Imbecile Shouts “Get Vaccinated!” at Novak Djokovic; The Tennis Star’s Response Is Fire!

Pogria
Pogria
January 21, 2024 9:43 pm

SBS is touting their latest production. They have Abofied one of my favourite Henry Lawson stories, The Drover’s Wife. yerk.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 21, 2024 9:46 pm

It is evil to be brainwashing kindy kids into doing acknowledgement to country.
Where are the parents fighting back ?

Bespoke
Bespoke
January 21, 2024 9:48 pm

Who is holding the current British to account for this?

JC.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 21, 2024 9:49 pm

Bastards, all over a grab for Boer gold.

O/T, I’ve seen Paul Kruger’s cottage in Pretoria. He sat on a bench at the front, drinking coffee, and running the Boer Republics, while his wife milked the cows at the back of the place.

132andBush
132andBush
January 21, 2024 9:52 pm

Word has come down that Glyphosate, at least, may be in short supply again. A large summer spray program for nearly everyone and the Red Sea issues are no doubt the causes.
Fertiliser will no doubt be next with urea heading up and Granuloc at $1,150t/port already.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 21, 2024 9:53 pm

the oldest stagnant culture on the planet riddled with animalise folk tales with less moral foundation than Aesop’s simplistic talking beasts.

To the contrary, Queensland folkloric tales are quite uplifting:

In the mythology of the region, Tibrogargan was the father of all the other Glass House Mountains except Beerwah, his wife. It was said that Tibrogargan saw a rising of the waters from the sea, and called to his son Coonowrin to take his mother Beerwah to a safe place; however, Coonowrin failed to do so, and in anger Tibrogargan clubbed Coonowrin and broke his neck. Tibrogargan is said to have turned his back to face Coonowrin.

There’s probably an important message for all of us in that.

Robert Sewell
January 21, 2024 9:57 pm

Bespoke

Jan 21, 2024 8:10 PM
Why not?

Same reason I’m against First Nations ideology, Eyrie. Those responsible are long gone.

And that’s as valid a position as anything else.

Lee
Lee
January 21, 2024 9:59 pm

the ‘oldest living culture on the planet’

To sum up in it up one word, “fossilised.”
Meanwhile, the rest of the world has moved on.
In the case of Europe, the M.E., and much of Asia, thousands of years ago.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 21, 2024 10:01 pm

feelthebern

Jan 21, 2024 8:56 PM

If Trump makes it to the convention, I reckon he will nominate a black man as his VP.

OJ?
Kanye?
Bill Cosby?

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 21, 2024 10:01 pm

A musical interlude – infectious good fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxNJiNWKw6w

Lee
Lee
January 21, 2024 10:01 pm

The “it up” is redundant.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 21, 2024 10:04 pm

An oft-forgotten fact is that the Cat’s former Doomlord, Professor Sinclair Davidson, is a libertarian who dislikes conservatives…

Utter rubbish Tom.

The Doomlord might have differed in opinions from strict conservatives (for example in matters such as policy regarding drugs) the world we live in is one dominated by excess government. In such a world at the gery least Libertarians and Conservatives have a common enemy.

In our current state there are no (or few) conservatives demanding conservative values be widely imposed (a la the power of government).

More subtley it seems to me that Libertarians are more focused on the freedoms they have determined we should have, and conservatives mindful of old ideas we should preserve. They aren’t actually opposites. Despite the clunky stereotype of conservatives held by progressives (who never let experience complicate their judgement) conservatism is not a fixed view of the world: a 1970’s and a 2020’s conservative would cleave to different priorities – such as attitudes to gays or the roles of women (conservatives resist the most hairbrained elements of progressive thought and accept change when they think it has proven itself and then conserve that new proven norm).

A 1970’s conservative would likely have had a more biblical image of what their society should be and appear in law while a 2020’s conservative more of an idea that religious belief should be allowed to flourish on its own merit.

It seems to me that Libertarians have a clear vision of what freedom looks like and would happily go to it (it is persuasive) while conservatives who do not have a vision of an end-state want any change to be managed with more caution.

Kind of balances really.

JC
JC
January 21, 2024 10:06 pm

Bespoke
Jan 21, 2024 9:48 PM

I’m not holding anyone to account, bespoke. I have no idea how you could possibly have reached that conclusion.

MatrixTransform
January 21, 2024 10:14 pm

Ben Carson?

Samuel L Jackson

Muddy
Muddy
January 21, 2024 10:21 pm

Dr Faustus
Jan 21, 2024 9:53 PM

The legend of Mount Coolum is similar. It’s a long time since I read it in a local library, but basically Coolum the warrior kidnapped a woman from a neighbouring tribe, a pursuit ensued, and someone’s head was knocked off with a boomerang, rolling into the sea to create Mudjimba Island. Coolum was turned to stone looking at Mudjimba’s head in the ocean, and someone (I forget who) cried copious tears that became the Maroochy River.

I’ve obviously mangled that, and gotten the names mixed up, but the thread is about greed, revenge and regret.

Bespoke
Bespoke
January 21, 2024 10:25 pm

And by the way, Woddenhead, the British were the first to use concentration camps in the most genocidal way against the Sth African Dutch settlers.

Sure you may have some plausible deniability but you take everything personal and have no limits, JC.

How about those Ethiopians?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 21, 2024 10:27 pm

I’ve obviously mangled that, and gotten the names mixed up, but the thread is about greed, revenge and regret.

I prefer Aesop and uncle Remus.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 21, 2024 10:31 pm

Voice architect Tom Calma leads call for Australia’s first Indigenous governor-general

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By joe kelly
National Affairs editor
10:16PM January 21, 2024
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One of the nation’s most respected Indigenous rights campaigners, Tom Calma, has backed in the appointment of an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander person to be the next governor-general, with the King’s current representative – David Hurley – due to wind up his five-year term by the middle of this year.

Professor Calma – one of the co-architects of the Indigenous voice to parliament which was comprehensively defeated at last year’s referendum – acknowledged suggestions he could be in the running for the role but did not put himself forward or deny interest in the job, saying any decision would be for the government.

With the wide expectation that General Hurley’s term will not be extended beyond July, leading political academic John Wanna said it was likely Anthony Albanese had already sent his shortlist of preferred vice-regal candidates to Buckingham Palace.

Professor’s Calma’s endorsement of a qualified and capable Indigenous person as governor-general of Australia was supported by other prominent Aboriginal Australians, including Referendum Working Group member and leading voice campaigner Thomas Mayo.

Labor MPs, including Tiwi woman Marion Scrymgour in the Northern Territory seat of Lingiari and Graham Perret in the ­Brisbane seat of Moreton, also supported the idea of an Indigenous Australian being appointed governor-general as a step forward for the nation.

In the mid-1990s, Aboriginal campaigner and inaugural chair of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission Lowitja O’Donoghue was discussed as a contender for the role, but prime minister Paul Keating opted to ­appoint Sir William Deane.

Professor Calma, the 2023 senior Australian of the year and former race discrimination comm­issioner, told The Australian on Sunday: “I would think it is time for an Aboriginal person.

“We’ve had an Aboriginal governor (of South Australia) in pastor Doug Nicholls. But there hasn’t been an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander person as governor-general. So why not?

“I think it is time. We shouldn’t shy away from considering an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander person. A person who is amply qualified to do the job on merit is what we would be looking for,” he said. “Not a token appointment. Someone who has the capacity.”

Asked if he would be interested in the role, Professor Calma – a co-architect of the voice with Marcia Langton – said he hadn’t “really given it any thought” but acknowledged people had suggested he was a viable option.

“I know that has been suggested,” he said. “People have said (that) to me. But that’s up to the government to determine. They will do it through whatever process they use.”

Professor Calma also noted that Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney has been raised as a potential governor-general.

Mr Mayo told The Australian that the appointment of an Indigenous Australian as governor-general could give great pride to the country. “We all know and respect Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who have made significant contributions in Australian society,” Mr Mayo said. “If the appointment is one such person, with a great work ethic and excellent statesmanship, I’m sure many Australians would be as proud as I would be to see a well overdue first.”

Bruce Pascoe for Governor General!

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 21, 2024 10:34 pm

The legend of Mount Coolum is similar. It’s a long time since I read it in a local library, but basically Coolum the warrior kidnapped a woman from a neighbouring tribe, a pursuit ensued, and someone’s head was knocked off with a boomerang, rolling into the sea to create Mudjimba Island. Coolum was turned to stone looking at Mudjimba’s head in the ocean, and someone (I forget who) cried copious tears that became the Maroochy River.

I’ve obviously mangled that, and gotten the names mixed up, but the thread is about greed, revenge and regret.

Are those extracted meanings by we colonialists, or guides for inducted natives? What do they say about it?

There’s probably an important message for all of us in that

Probably, possibly, perhaps, maybe.

Anders
Anders
January 21, 2024 10:38 pm

the ‘oldest living culture on the planet’

If keeping up cultural tradition is wonderful then we better keep The Lord’s Prayer in Parliament. Oh silly me, it doesn’t work like that.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 21, 2024 10:42 pm

“I think it is time. We shouldn’t shy away from considering an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander person. A person who is amply qualified to do the job on merit is what we would be looking for,”

Except either of the Price ladies. Neither would be considered at all qualified. They’re both far right wing. That is, sane and sensible.

Digger
Digger
January 21, 2024 10:47 pm

The hemi engine in the 300C is not a good engine to potter around town with stop start driving.

My daughter has a Chrysler 300SRT 6.4 litre hemi V8 which she keeps locked up in a shed. It has 350kW and 637Nm. It is an absolute brute of a car with very little finesse. She also has an Audi A6 biturbo V6 diesel which is not as powerful but still around 5 sec to 100, so no slouch. The difference in the driving is unbelievable. The Audi is so much better as an all round vehicle but the Chrysler is almost pure excitement to drive because its almost uncontrollable power…

JC
JC
January 21, 2024 10:48 pm

Commercial shipping is supposed to be defended by naval AD.

Somewhat, but with all human endeavors there are limitations. Who and why are they being “defended” from?

They haven’t sunk or injured any ships or crew because they probably only intend to hinder traffic.

I provided you with an account of the ships they’ve attacked and the ones thwarted by the US/UK. The attacks have been many.

No, they have two objectives, one political, putting a price on international support for Israel as well as hindering Israeli trade.

They fired on a Russian tanker, which I posted about in the earlier this last week.They hit a ship bound for Italy, which they claimed was headed for Israel. It’s indiscriminate.

The other is to open another front against the US and potentially set up another trap.

That goes without saying.

They’re after cash.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 21, 2024 10:49 pm

Sorry, isn’t the Governor General supposed to take the oath of allegiance to the King?

Lidia Thorpe for Governor General!

Crossie
Crossie
January 21, 2024 10:58 pm

DrBeauGan
Jan 21, 2024 10:42 PM
“I think it is time. We shouldn’t shy away from considering an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander person. A person who is amply qualified to do the job on merit is what we would be looking for,”

Except either of the Price ladies. Neither would be considered at all qualified. They’re both far right wing. That is, sane and sensible.

There is also Warren Mundine, he would be so a very good job.

Crossie
Crossie
January 21, 2024 11:00 pm

he would do a very good job.

(Proofread is my friend)

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 21, 2024 11:03 pm

Sorry, isn’t the Governor General supposed to take the oath of allegiance to the King?

One of the many, many reasons I wouldn’t want the job. I simply couldn’t bring myself to do it.

If king chas wanted to swear an oath of allegiance to me, I suppose I’d let him, reluctantly. Likewise, I’m quite prepared to grant him an audience if he asks nicely. But that’s as far as it goes.

Sorry, but I can’t take all this medieval crap seriously.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 21, 2024 11:08 pm

There is also Warren Mundine, he would be so a very good job.

Marcia Langton for Governor General!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 21, 2024 11:10 pm

Likewise, I’m quite prepared to grant him an audience if he asks nicely.

Chuck would probably arrive with a decanter of Laphroig, and two glasses.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 21, 2024 11:11 pm

There is also Warren Mundine

Yes, he might be ok, but the lefties won’t have him.

I’d be against anybody who was prepared to do the job. Being willing to take the job would be a complete disqualification in my view. It’s a rubbish job. Oh, you might get to sack a prime minister once in a blue moon. But mainly it’s laying foundation stones, snipping tape and unscrewing imaginary light bulbs as you are driven past schoolies. Nobody with an ounce of self respect would have a bar of it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 21, 2024 11:14 pm

I bet you never realised that you picked the wrong person.

In that comment you cite I took completely justifiable aim at a lunatic who was hounding me relentlessly. And that was a long long time ago, and it has never ceased since, accompanied by lies and outright doxxing.

It was certainly not directed at the wrong person.

It still isn’t. All the hysterical weeping and wailing in a deliberatly minor key about how misunderstood you are and how everyone should uptick you because you live in a motel and are just an ordinary sort of old girl who is put down by people in the Eastern suburbs (me and Cassie) with more money, well, that’s just nonsense. You have plenty of money from the sale of your house, you should have a good superannuation income from the wonderful public sector job you say you held, and no-one starves in Australia anyway, no matter what sort of a mess they make of their lives.

Get real. You are not genuine, you are obsessed and fixated, and nor are the people who who think you are some icon of plain speaking demonstrating any real acuity. You are, as Cass says, a sad case and the sooner you lay off me, the better it will be for you.

Queanbeyan Cow. If the name fits, it will be used.

Muddy
Muddy
January 21, 2024 11:14 pm

Re: The indig Governor General proposal: What happens when we run out of symbolic gestures and token appointments/acknowledgements?

Do we rewind the VHS cassette and start again?

There is a dark humour though in the apparent obsession with baubles and trinkets.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 21, 2024 11:15 pm

Chuck would probably arrive with a decanter of Laphroig, and two glasses.

That would incline me favourably. I’d offer him a havana cigar. If he said “no”, I’d smoke two of them.

Muddy
Muddy
January 21, 2024 11:18 pm

If I may sign off by demonstrating my own cultural depth and lack of street cred:

Regrets or mistakes? They’re memories made.
Who would have known how bittersweet this would taste.

Adele – Someone Like You, but it’s pretty emo.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 21, 2024 11:21 pm

That would incline me favourably. I’d offer him a havana cigar. If he said “no”, I’d smoke two of them.

I don’t dislike the man. I think he’s rather dim, but he can’t help that. And he likes the goon show and has some sort of a sense of humour. So I would be willing to talk to him. And put him straight about the global warming scam.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 21, 2024 11:25 pm

There is a dark humour though in the apparent obsession with baubles and trinkets.

Exactly so. It’s all for children who haven’t grown up.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 21, 2024 11:25 pm

Lidia Thorpe for Governor General!

Come on now. You all know that we’re going to get Marcia Langton.

Plain as day.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 21, 2024 11:27 pm

Exactly so. It’s all for children who haven’t grown up.

And would sell their souls for an elephant sticker.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
January 21, 2024 11:38 pm

Meanwhile, a rentacrowd blockade of Zim line operations in the port of Melbourne has entered its third day:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-21/gaza-protesters-gather-melbourne-city-block-port/103372908

VicPol, I assume, are assessing the situation – i.e. awaiting orders from their political whoremongers in Spring Street.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 21, 2024 11:41 pm

My vote goes to Denzell Washington. Sure win.
“Ben Carson?

Samuel L Jackson”

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 21, 2024 11:47 pm

Bruce Pascoe Bess Price for Governor General!

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 21, 2024 11:54 pm

I don’t know if it’s permissable to post something here that’s a little commercial although non-profit, but definitely partizan. Dover, please remove this comment if it’s out of order.

AJA is selling Australian/Israel flag pin badges on eBay.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/235396398879

Bruce in WA
January 22, 2024 12:07 am

Doug Parkinson at his superb best.

The Hungry Years

The lyrics touch a nerve in my case. And delivered in that voice …

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 22, 2024 10:32 am

The Paywallian Media Diary reporting that Andwew Pwobyn is once again enjoying the warm embrace of Aunty’s ample bosom courtesy of the “talent” dumping ground that is RN Breakfast, currently brought to us by PK and home to much loved broadcaster Frank Elly. Thus the Pwobe’s Redundancy joins the Quentin Dumpster Long Goodbye. I guess we will have to wait till Senate Estimates to find out whether they actually got around to deactivating his swipe card. Nice to see all those afternoons on his knees in the ALPBC Perth studios with Nana Hutchison didn’t go to waste.

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