Open Thread – Weekend 17 Feb 2024


Pond in an Old Park, Ivan Shishkin, 1897

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Mark Bolton
February 18, 2024 11:21 pm

@Dot
Feb 18, 2024 11:05 PM

Is there any way you can run your comments through some sort of Fatuousness filter? They seem to have meaningful two word dinosaur killers such as “power corrupts” and then degenerate back into drivel.

I am sure you have something to say in there some where .. how about just wait a while and think stuff through rather than trying to come out with fall flat zingers.

It contributes nothing to the discussion and does you no glory either.

MatrixTransform
February 18, 2024 11:24 pm

Frequentlee

Never mind the why and wherefore
Love can level ranks, and therefore …

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 18, 2024 11:40 pm

Since we’re in a G&S mood:

I often think it’s comical – Fal, lal, la!
How Nature always does contrive – Fal, lal, la!
That every boy and every gal
That’s born into the world alive
Is either a little Liberal
Or else a little Conservative!

Gabor
Gabor
February 18, 2024 11:41 pm

What is the reason Serbia was thrown under the bus?

Many reasons, too complex to cover in a simple post.
Basically to teach a lesson to a largely insignificant entity that the US still has power.

Remember who was the secretary of state then, “I was shot at”

Yugoslavia as it was then, was breaking up and outside interests played a major role supporting certain ethnicities.

BTW, Yugoslavia was a creation of post war manipulation by the allies.
It should never have happened, the two major nationalities were never friends to say the least. To be blunt they hate each other.

Religion also came into it, like it or not and Islam was the emerging favored at the time.

Make no mistake, there were as many, if not more, atrocities committed by Muslims as others, except that they had been swept under the carpet..

Mark Bolton
February 18, 2024 11:45 pm


Feb 18, 2024 11:24 PM

Gosh havent the decades flown ! I remember when Gilbert and Sullivan fannery was considered so bourgeois and contemptible. Was it the 70s or the 80s ? I must have blinked. But to me G & S have always been as Punk as Nina Hagen …

Though to catch your drift I’m striving,
It is shady — it is shady;
I don’t see at what you’re driving,
Mystic lady — mystic lady.

Big 😉

John Brumble
John Brumble
February 18, 2024 11:52 pm

Dot-
“Explain how vouchers wouldn’t have worked.”

Vouchers weren’t on offer. And if you don’t understand how stopping someone building is not the same as acquiring land, or how easy it is to game that toothless tiger, you need to get a refund of your law degree.

Mark Bolton
February 18, 2024 11:52 pm

@DrBeauGan
Feb 18, 2024 11:40 PM

Absolutely … !!

Is either a little Liberal
Or else a little Conservative!

Didn’t G&S nail and pilliory the whole Team Red VS Team Blue idiocy !!! But yet they didnt seem to have a wooden stake garlic and a cruicifix….

And Yet it Lives !!!!

MatrixTransform
February 18, 2024 11:55 pm

Since we’re in a G&S mood

righto … stop that

thinking for yrself is not allowed

Mark Bolton
February 18, 2024 11:56 pm

Oh Dot ? You have a Law Degree?

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
February 18, 2024 11:57 pm

Teats Shorten announces $80M robofraudbot…
Got to admit, the mole has some hide.

MatrixTransform
February 18, 2024 11:59 pm

Mystic lady

reminds me of a Ween song … dunno why

Voodoo Lady

Mark Bolton
February 19, 2024 12:01 am

@ MatrixTransform
Feb 18, 2024 11:55 PM

A little Eastern European RRolloing and a pig tail or two? I promise I wont think …

I have promised never to be either right or wrong… perhaps I was lead astray by the wickedness of others ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h9YDhUp58M

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 19, 2024 7:58 am

Alamak!

As DB says, we can leave those involved to work it out … but any threat to Japans (or Koreas) energy supply lines coming through international waters will not be a matter for soft bullying and diplomatic discussion over time.

Those involved can work out the resource access issues, but under present international law, the Nine-Dash-Line does NOT provide China with enclosed territorial waters.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 19, 2024 8:09 am

dover0beach
Feb 18, 2024 10:23 PM

Rights to which they have no entitlement while the area is disputed,

I wasn’t saying they were entitled to it now.

So what is the relevance of the “predate” comment?

It’s relevance is that the claim wasn’t conjured by the PRC, but was inherited from the previous regime, which is why Taiwan makes a similar claim.

Is there any evidence, at all, that China has offered to compromise?

I don’t know, I’m no detailed knowledge of any of the negotiations.

I’m not sure that this whole discussion has done much more to advance the sum of human knowledge in the world, other than to highlight China’s arrogance and intransigence.

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