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JC
JC
February 19, 2024 7:17 pm

This foul creature is on borrowed time. CL will not put up with it as dover has. It will be poetry in motion when the hammer comes down..

I’m sure CL would cherish the bull dyke’s presence, giving him instructions like the nasty old thing does here with Dover.

Why is this evil slosher posting this swill here anyway? It obviously possesses several sets of knackers (in the freezer). She needs to go over to CL and offer this insightful insight.

Alamak!
February 19, 2024 7:19 pm

Why they don’t just stay at the Furniture Store is beyond me.

As a casual bystander for these internecine (drama) wars, do share what could be the “Furniture Store”?

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 7:22 pm

Its like trying to have a discussion with bird. Futile.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 7:24 pm

Not great at logic are you Dover?

That’s fine. Geopolitics are messy. My position is whoever is the aggressor is the illegitimate side. As a principle it works pretty well, and is consistent with the Bible. Be satisfied with what you have and do not covet your neighbour’s ass, wife or real estate.

JC
JC
February 19, 2024 7:24 pm

So not only are you terrible with analogy but you also have no idea about the terrible philosophy of deconstruction.

Dover, I didn’t bring up the adverse possession claim. You did.

I’m not using the word deconstruction, in a philosophical sense. I’m using the nearest word I could think of in an argument to suggest this is much more than a suburban plot dispute. At least a court would decide a property case. China walked away from the adjudication process it signed onto that would be used in such disputes. So, the idea of adverse possession has no relevance.

Indolent
Indolent
February 19, 2024 7:30 pm
JMH
JMH
February 19, 2024 7:32 pm

JC
Feb 19, 2024 7:17 PM

I doubt CL will tolerate this kind of abuse. Dover does, however.

.

Barry
Barry
February 19, 2024 7:33 pm

Rossini
Feb 19, 2024 6:11 PM

Good call!

JC
JC
February 19, 2024 7:33 pm

Indolent

It’s all a lie.

Within hours of Navalny’s death, his “wife” was photo-opping with Kamala.

Yeah, well we all have to work through things we don’t really want to do

Meanwhile, when he was stuck in a Siberian jail, she had already dumped him for a toy boy lover…

Wow, great legs. Simply the best. Why isn’t he at the front fighting for Russia? Do you know?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 7:33 pm

Barry

Feb 19, 2024 5:23 PM

Gotta pay for a new car next week, just shy of $50k. Bank (ex credit union type) no longer does bank cheques, so my fingers will be fair shaking when I type in the BSB and Account to do an on-line transfer. Single wrong digit could be catastrophic.

Barry.
Pay a tiny amount as a deposit and ask the vendor to confirm receipt in writing.
Once confirmed pay the balance using the saved details.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 7:34 pm

Sigh!

Indolent
Indolent
February 19, 2024 7:34 pm
JC
JC
February 19, 2024 7:38 pm

JC
Feb 19, 2024 7:17 PM

I doubt CL will tolerate this kind of abuse. Dover does, however.

Go through the back pages and look at the abuse you’ve thrown toward me and others you don’t like. It’s fcking demonic behavior.

Try it on over at his site, you filthy, wretched old bull dyke. Go over there if you have issues with CL.

I’ve had a great relationship with CL for almost 20 years. Go talk to him to ban me and everyone else you don’t like. Now seriously, just fck off.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
February 19, 2024 7:38 pm

If we use ‘cash’ they lose an advantage.
It’s a black thing! Ask Fani’s dad. The grey panther.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 7:42 pm

Another thing Barry.
On some bank websites once you enter the account name, BSB and account number, it will tell you if the details match other transactions.
Not a guarantee, but an extra layer of security.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
February 19, 2024 7:44 pm

Equestrian banned for wearing a mankini!
I can’t help but ask what part Sinclair played in this.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 7:45 pm

JMH

Feb 19, 2024 7:32 PM

JC
Feb 19, 2024 7:17 PM

I doubt CL will tolerate this kind of abuse. Dover does, however.

You need to wind back the concern-trolling and directing traffic, champ.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 7:45 pm

The Rise Of Tucker Carlson | Joe Rogan & Bret Weinstein

Interestingly Joe Rogan was saying last week he was hoping for the return of Jesus Christ. Given how awful the Left currently is behaving he may have a point.

Aaron Rodgers Discusses the Return of Christ With Joe Rogan: ‘Hope Is a Memory of the Future’ (15 Feb)

NFL quarterback Aaron Rodgers recently discussed the second coming of Jesus Christ with Joe Rogan on “The Joe Rogan Experience.” Rodgers and Rogan agreed that “it’d be good right around now.”

“I would like to talk to Tucker Carlson about this,” Rogan continued. “He thinks it’s always been here and that it’s a part of existence and that this is a part of these biblical stories of angels and devils and that that’s what they’re really talking about. They’re talking about these interdimensional beings.”

That’d be a fun idea for a discussion: Tucker and Joe getting all existential!

Indolent
Indolent
February 19, 2024 7:45 pm

From two weeks ago but I don’t think we’ve seen it. A bit of a truth pill.

Wind energy racket exposed at last

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 7:47 pm

Bespoke

Feb 19, 2024 7:34 PM

Sigh!

Last f-cking warning, champ!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 7:47 pm

Lmao. Who could believe this?

Um, Dover, it’s Politico…
Always look at who the source is.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
February 19, 2024 7:48 pm

Sky News host Rita Panahi has mocked a woman who identified herself as a dog.

The woman, who appeared on the ‘whatever’ podcast discussed how she wanted a gentlemanly man who would be able to court her in a relationship.

I suppose doggy style doesn’t come into it

Why aren’t these lunatics in an asylum.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 7:49 pm

Last f-cking warning, champ!

Promises promises.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 19, 2024 7:50 pm

And now he lives in the hills suburbs of Perth WA.

There’s a few quasi famous musicians around Perf. An ex member of the Clash had a shop in Leederville for ages. Now gone but he’s around still.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
February 19, 2024 7:51 pm

Perin Davey is quite a bit younger than me, looks like a good sort, so I could care less why the usual suspects want to pillory her. I’d be more interested in sharing a pillow with her.
(channeling JC here)

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 7:51 pm

Sky News host Rita Panahi has mocked a woman who identified herself as a dog.

This is result of anthropomorphism.

local oaf
February 19, 2024 7:52 pm

Barry

Feb 19, 2024 5:23 PM

Gotta pay for a new car next week, just shy of $50k. Bank (ex credit union type) no longer does bank cheques, so my fingers will be fair shaking when I type in the BSB and Account to do an on-line transfer. Single wrong digit could be catastrophic.

I bought a new car some years back by the online transfer method. My bank (also former credit union wouldn’t let me send more than $5,000 for a start)

I had to ring them to get them to permit the transfer. Maybe they’d do the transfer for you? You could blame them if it goes wrong.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 19, 2024 8:02 pm

Perf is so far from anywhere it’s hard to imagine anyone ending up here. It like ending up in Anchorage or something. Luvvie and periodically amusing BBC type Ben Elton is a sometimes resident with a decidedly non proletarian abode somewhere down towards Fremantle (unexpectedly).

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 19, 2024 8:03 pm

Dover

The PRC prevailed because it defeated the ROC militarily and appears to have enjoyed the greater support of the population, whether we like it or not.

The many millions of victims of the Hundred Flowers Campaign, the Great Leap Forward and the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution and similar purges might object, but they are dead.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
February 19, 2024 8:04 pm

Love that video clip where Albo says he was “travelling in the car”.
The bloke behind him looks like someone thinking WTF?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 8:04 pm

This is certainly a new line of attack.

LOL. It’s an either/or equation, as I demonstrated unassailably using your own argument. It was fun because I thought you’d fall for it, given your liking for Russia, and so you did. 😀

In short your position on Ukraine means you must now say China has no rights whatsoever over the South China Sea atolls, which are internationally recognized possessions of Malaysia, Vietnam, Philippines, Taiwan and Indonesia. Ditto for their ambit claims on various bits of India. The Chinese can go and have sex with themselves.

Roger
Roger
February 19, 2024 8:06 pm

JAG is on 10 Bold.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 19, 2024 8:09 pm

Why aren’t these lunatics in an asylum.

Very good question. Possibly because a number of journos have a strong suspicion they’d be inside one.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 19, 2024 8:10 pm

At the pool marinating my only child in piss.
Thanks for that analogy whomever mentioned it before.

https://youtu.be/g1Fe_usip-g?si=BvoB-_0OGCccv9s1

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 19, 2024 8:10 pm

dover0beach
Feb 19, 2024 7:05 PM
Looks like China ceded Taiwan to Japan, then Taiwan was briefly under KMT control post-WW II,

You said that China never governed the island. That was false.

That was an error. By the same token, you didn’t mention that Taiwan was ceded to Japan (which became the colonial power).

Time for a referendum on decolonisation, which, based on the recent election results, would lead to full independence for Taiwan.

This just looks like a convenient means of severing the PRC’s claim to the territory occupied by ROC but does not ‘decolonize’ Taiwan from the ROC

.

The recent elections have led to the government being based around a significant proportion of indigenous (non-Han) citizens. To a large degree, China’s claim now fits into the colonial square.

Is this “convenient means” more or less “convenient” than China’s appeal to the Nine-Dash-Line?

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 19, 2024 8:12 pm

Format problem, trying to put sub-quotes into separate block quotes.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 19, 2024 8:13 pm

“However agent sent one sentence email to say owner now looking to sell and new lease will be 3 weeks and keep renewing at 3 weeks and will have 3 weeks notice to move out. “

Seems very underhanded, I smell a massive rat. There’s no way they’ll agree to another fixed lease so you’ll be on a periodic lease, the next step they’ll probably take is the 90 day no reason eviction notice. If they do find a buyer and it sells quick they still have to give notice of 30 days from the handover.

My take, start looking yesterday and have a plan B if the place sells & there’s a gap. Long and short I have bought and sold 3 or 4 places and the contracts, conveyancing and other corporate governance means there will be about 4-6 weeks, NSW Fair trading has the same info on their website.

Source of Eviction Info below:

https://www.tenants.org.au/factsheet-10-landlord-ends-agreement

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 8:13 pm

Roger

Feb 19, 2024 8:06 PM

JAG is on 10 Bold.

Hey everyone!
We’ve found the viewer!

Roger
Roger
February 19, 2024 8:15 pm

Hey everyone!
We’ve found the viewer!

I fell asleep watching Diagnosis Murder.

Best sleep I’ve had in a while, actually.

dopey
dopey
February 19, 2024 8:16 pm

Dover and others. Please don’t start on the Hundred Years War.

mizaris
mizaris
February 19, 2024 8:16 pm

Love that video clip where Albo says he was “travelling in the car”.
The bloke behind him looks like someone thinking WTF?

Love to see it…any link please.
Many thanks in advance

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 8:16 pm

Rockdoctor

Feb 19, 2024 8:13 PM

“However agent sent one sentence email to say owner now looking to sell and new lease will be 3 weeks and keep renewing at 3 weeks and will have 3 weeks notice to move out. “

Seems very underhanded, I smell a massive rat.

Yeah, the three week thing is a smartarse way of throwing you out of the monthly cycle.
But just look up the relevant tenancy laws which might have something to say about that.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 8:17 pm

Where is P?

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
February 19, 2024 8:18 pm

The news from Enga province in PNG:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-19/png-massacre-highlands-explainer-enga-heres-what-we-know/103484560

But don’t expect the ABC to stop peddling romantic primitivism.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 8:19 pm

Roger

Feb 19, 2024 8:15 PM

Hey everyone!
We’ve found the viewer!

I fell asleep watching Diagnosis Murder.

Told you.
Better than industrial strength sedatives.
Did your crocheted blanket fall off your knees?

Digger
Digger
February 19, 2024 8:27 pm

Have just watched the episode in which the central theme was clearance divers. The only-on-TV script peripherals aside, how representative is the representation of clearance divers & what they do?

Depends on what they portrayed, Salvatore. You have a reasonable idea what CD’s do, at least from one perspective/career.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
February 19, 2024 8:28 pm

Gotta pay for a new car next week, just shy of $50k.

As oaf said, we had to get pre-authorisation to transfer money for car purchase recently, I gather the transfer limit was lifted for 24 hrs. Easy to do when you can visit a branch.

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 19, 2024 8:30 pm


Modified L1 A1 rifle.
I posted this a month or so back. Cheers Zulu though.

Alamak!
February 19, 2024 8:30 pm

I bought a new car some years back by the online transfer method. My bank (also former credit union wouldn’t let me send more than $5,000 for a start)

I had to ring them to get them to permit the transfer. Maybe they’d do the transfer for you? You could blame them if it goes wrong.

CBA delays payments over $500. Book an appointment with the manager and wear your best suit. It might work if the gerbils in Sydney can be made to work a bit of OT.

Today sent $$$ from Singapore to Sydney (CBA) to Perth (Bankwest) before lunch. The Sydney gerbils had gone home early so $$$ might arrive tomorrow, possibly.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 8:31 pm

Hearing reports the Houthis have hit the Rubymar (British)

First I’ve heard that Beirut is in Britain. It’s Lebanese.

Very surprised if any actual Pommy ships are going anywhere near the Gulf Of Aden. The Houthis keep claiming they are hitting “British”, “American” and “Israeli” ships though. Amusingly one of those was delivering a cargo to Iran last week. I can’t think the Iranians would be happy with their own cargo being attacked.

Roger
Roger
February 19, 2024 8:32 pm

Did your crocheted blanket fall off your knees?

No need of that; it was a balmy 26 here today as I kicked back in the recliner.

The crocheted blanket will remain tucked away in the camphor wood chest until ANZAC Day, which usually sees the first frost of the year.

On the upside, after getting no joy from Optus my wife scored a $50 ex gratia payment after ringing them back and demanding to speak to a supervisor.

I told her the young ones on the Cat advise to “always escalate.”

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 19, 2024 8:34 pm

New EU Directive BANS Car Repairs!

I accidentally looked at this, even though I am usually pretty solid at avoiding Indolent’s scrofulous leavings – and truly was any screen name more appropriate than the sub-minimal efforts of Indolent.

First it is not some official pronouncement from the EU parliament – it is a possible directive ‘being spoken about’ – although we do not know by whom (passive voice is always the pregnant para-parenthesis beloved of those wanting to trigger outrage – such as the MSM).

The person filling us in is ‘Gabby the cabby’ – a guy with an opinion just like the person next door and across the street. So we have gone from the stentorious ‘EU directive’ to ‘a cabby’s interpretation of what he has read someone in the EU wants to do’. It also refers not to current vehicles being banned, but to vehicles reaching ‘end of life’ being compelled, if being upgraded, to adhere to sustainable requirements.

Anyone reading the original headline would interpret it to being some sudden and new rule taking effect immediately. Instead it is an entirely predictable adjunct to existing EU policy – actually a bit of a boon since it does not require the sustainable upgrades until the vehicle reaches end of life (as opposed to at once).

Do you ever read or listen to the stuff you post? I doubt you can have the time. But people who gullibly accept the headlines you post will time and again be misled, and blunder into arguments where they will be embarrassed and their arguments undercut for having blithely taken your link names at face value.

Actually, one of my favourite ‘stepping on a rake’ is when you link to stories from the US or UK and retain the ‘we’, even though it has nothing to do with Australia.

Be the Catallaxy version of the Greek nymph Echo, unable to formulate your own speech but only able to repeat what others have said, but for the love of Zeus and the Olympian host: Quality over Quantity!

Indolent
Indolent
February 19, 2024 8:39 pm

Be the Catallaxy version of the Greek nymph Echo, unable to formulate your own speech

Well, you certainly have no problem in that regard. Whether it’s worth reading is another matter.

Alamak!
February 19, 2024 8:41 pm

Well, you certainly have no problem in that regard. Whether it’s worth reading is another matter.

Indolence finds his voice.

/CLAPS

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 8:43 pm

Gasp!
It actually read something!
Here, have a cup of coffee.

Delta A
Delta A
February 19, 2024 8:44 pm

Bespoke
Feb 19, 2024 8:17 PM
Where is P?

Yes, bespoke, I have missed her, too.

If you’re lurking, P, I hope you’re well and will be commenting again soon.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 8:45 pm

Modified L1 A1 rifle. I posted this a month or so back. Cheers Zulu though.

Apologies – I must have missed it.

Happy to be corrected, but didn’t the original hang over the snakepit bar in Campbell Barracks?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 8:45 pm

Lode at 8:34.
Some good questions in there.
Not least of all, “Do you ever read or listen to what you post?”

Roger
Roger
February 19, 2024 8:49 pm

But people who gullibly accept the headlines you post will time and again be misled, and blunder into arguments where they will be embarrassed and their arguments undercut for having blithely taken your link names at face value.

Aye…there’s the rub.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 19, 2024 8:53 pm

Tell them to keep paying the rent, but don’t sign a 3 week lease.
There is an “expectation of continuance” and the landlord, even if selling/sold, needs to give you 90 days notice for a “no fault” eviction.
Of course, I am not a lawyer, so seek other advice, but that is my understanding.

Be very careful with this.
If there is no lease signed it reverts to month to month.
And if there is no lease, the landlord only has to give you 30 days notice to quit.

If they are going to increase the rent, they have to give 60 days notice (before the end of the existing lease).
If they are not going to offer you a new lease, they have to give at least 30 days notice before the end of the existing lease.

This is resi, in NSW.
Other states might have different rules.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 8:57 pm

SEQ youth crime: Chilling warning as ex-Army security guard patrols blue-chip Brisbane suburbs

Terrified residents in several affluent Brisbane suburbs are forking out thousands of dollars a week on a private security guard and his three deadly dogs to deter ‘out of control’ youth criminals.

Courier Mail.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 8:58 pm

Glad you can read Dover. As I said it’s Lebanese.

Which makes sense – they thought, being muzzo, that they’d be safe. Unfortunately the Houthis are stuck for propaganda targets right now so they’re beating up the slightest possible linkage with nasty horrible Poms that they can invent out of thin air. Btw the Iranians have a special animus for Poms, so I suspect the Houthis thought they could spin it on that basis.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 19, 2024 9:03 pm

& my understanding is the no fault eviction can be appealed.
And rulings in favour of the tenant being almost the default.

Having great tenants in your properties is the best.
Having bad tenants makes you lose your will to live.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 19, 2024 9:04 pm

Well, you certainly have no problem in that regard.

Seriously? You are suggesting I post other people’s insights and opinions rather than my own? That I am not able to answer for what I post?

What could you possibly know about posting your thoughts – “not my opinion, I was just posting it.”

Delta A
Delta A
February 19, 2024 9:04 pm

Peter Dutton on FB today paying tribute to Freeling farmer ‘and proud Australian’ Harry Schuster for drawing a huge ‘Australia’ in his paddock for Australia Day.

I’m sure it won’t be long before Albo is there, too, praising this patriotic Aussie for his gift to the country on Australia Day.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 9:07 pm

Be fun if the Rubymar is actually a Hezbollah-owned ship. Since the Hezbies have their fingers in all the pies in Lebanon that’s a distinct possibility. Especially since we know they had control over the Beirut docks, which they accidentally blew up that one time. Oops. Might be a few unhappy Houthi officers tonight methinks.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 9:09 pm

I’m sure it won’t be long before Albo is there, too, praising this patriotic Aussie for his gift to the country on Australia Day.

Albo is too busy, signing a G.S.T. pledge, on somebodies ARM, in Perth..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 9:11 pm

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese signs GST pledge on front page of The West and reporter’s arm

The West Australian

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 19, 2024 9:11 pm

Watched a few minutes of Sharri.
Some of these Pali visa’s have been approved in less than an hour.
The professional managerial class really do not like the citizens of this country do they.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
February 19, 2024 9:12 pm

I gather the transfer limit was lifted for 24 hrs.

I’ve had to do large-ish transfers a couple of times (new car, installation of solar system).

On each occasion, I ring the credit union 1300 number. They increase the limit, wait on the phone while I transfer the funds via the app, then once they’ve confirmed the transaction has gone through, put the limit straight back on again.

Very easy and takes 5 – 10 minutes.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 19, 2024 9:13 pm

Just a suggestion: if you don’t want to read indolent’s posts, don’t. Scrolling past is quite easy. I often do. Then again, I sometimes find them interesting.

Why so many here enjoy bitching about others here is beyond me.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 9:16 pm

Oh! The irony is thick.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 19, 2024 9:17 pm

dover0beach
Feb 19, 2024 8:40 PM
By the same token, you didn’t mention that Taiwan was ceded to Japan (which became the colonial power

I included it in the quote, why would I need to mention it? Further, I also incl. Japan’s renunciation of their sovereignty.

That Taiwan ceased to be (officially) Chinese with the cession seems significant. That Japan renounced sovereignty also seems significant, making Taiwan something of a free agent.

The recent elections have led to the government being based around a significant proportion of indigenous (non-Han) citizens.

Wiki:

Roughly 84 percent of Taiwan’s population are descendants of Han Chinese immigrants between 1683 and 1895. Another significant fraction descends from Han Chinese who immigrated from mainland China in the late 1940s and early 1950s.

It seems to me that what has changed is not the origin of the inhabitants but how they now identify.

Do you mean in the way that many immigrants to Australia ceased to regard themselves as English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh, and became Australian? You are making a good case for Taiwanese independence from China.

And the winning party in the recent elections, IIRC, regard themselves as Taiwanese, rather than Chinese. The two parts have grown apart, who are we to try to force them back together.

John H.
John H.
February 19, 2024 9:18 pm

Barking Toad
Feb 19, 2024 7:48 PM
Sky News host Rita Panahi has mocked a woman who identified herself as a dog.

The woman, who appeared on the ‘whatever’ podcast discussed how she wanted a gentlemanly man who would be able to court her in a relationship.

I suppose doggy style doesn’t come into it

Why aren’t these lunatics in an asylum.

I doubt they are mad, just seeking attention. Throw a stick and tell her to fetch. Produce a can of dog food and tell her to eat. Ask her where she defecates. A mad person would fetch the stick, eat the dog food, and defecate in the park. That’s what needs to happen. If journalists had any guts they would challenge those beliefs in the same way journalists challenge statements by other people.

Speedbox
February 19, 2024 9:20 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Feb 19, 2024 8:57 PM
SEQ youth crime: Chilling warning as ex-Army security guard patrols blue-chip Brisbane suburbs. Terrified residents in several affluent Brisbane suburbs are forking out thousands of dollars a week on a private security guard……

Tonight I heard that the current Police Commissioner (Katarina Carroll) is considering her options with regard to her employment. Apparently, her contract comes up for renewal in a few months.

But, get this, she said she had not yet discussed this matter with the Police Minister.

What? She calls a press conference to say she is considering her options but hasn’t yet discussed it with the Minister? Really? Something is afoot.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 9:22 pm

The cope here is incredible.

Skull.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 19, 2024 9:26 pm

Just a suggestion: if you don’t want to read indolent’s posts, don’t.

I am a passed master at scrolling, and that is the policy I follow with Indolent’s posts. Considering the volume of his…stuff, I do pretty well. But sometimes I click through human fallibility.

But my ire is not sprung by numbers – they just make it inevitable.

It is the all too frequently posting of links to articles that do not substantiate their grandiose headlines, but instead dupe people into believing things that are not backed up simply for trusting the Cat.

The possibility of misleading other Cats by sleight of phrase is what I object to.

Dot
Dot
February 19, 2024 9:27 pm

Terrified residents in several affluent Brisbane suburbs are forking out thousands of dollars a week on a private security guard and his three deadly dogs to deter ‘out of control’ youth criminals.

Can they get some of their taxes back for this public service?

Dot
Dot
February 19, 2024 9:28 pm

Indolent has a good heart (as does OldOzzie).

Like OldOzzie, I wish for a greater gift of discernment.

Roger
Roger
February 19, 2024 9:29 pm

Well, you certainly have no problem in that regard.

Seriously? You are suggesting I post other people’s insights and opinions rather than my own?

I took that as an acknowledgment of your prose writing skills, ML.

Why so many here enjoy bitching about others here is beyond me.

At some point – and it will vary with individual readers – the need to scroll militates against the desire to read on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 9:29 pm

DrBeauGan

Feb 19, 2024 9:13 PM

Just a suggestion: if you don’t want to read indolent’s posts, don’t.

Yeah.
But nah.
That was pointing out that many of his links either have a tag which grossly overstates or misrepresents the content at the link, or is even directly contradicted in the detail.
The example given (quickly paraphrasing) has a tag “EU push to ban xyz”.
At the link it is quoting some nobody who thinks summink bad might happen.
If you are as fond of fact-based analysis as you claim, you would applaud Lode for calling out this bullshit.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 19, 2024 9:31 pm

Frost on ANZAC day is a it rude. Frost anytime come to think of it.

Roger
Roger
February 19, 2024 9:32 pm

What? She calls a press conference to say she is considering her options but hasn’t yet discussed it with the Minister? Really? Something is afoot

.

She is reportedly facing a mutiny.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 19, 2024 9:33 pm

February 19th is Bombing of Darwin Day:

Mythbusting: did the Japanese pilots insult their victims?

Some accounts of the first Japanese air raid on Darwincontain lurid accounts of how Japanese pilots made “rude gestures” or “grinned”, presumably in derision, at their victims as they inflicted the destruction of the raid.

Douglas Lockwood’s book Australia’s Pearl Harbour says: “Pilots laughed while spreading death, grinning crudely from the security of their cockpits and cabins, searching for opposition that might allow them, as they craved, to prove their superior skills.” And: “The Japanese pilot turned and flew directly over the spot. As he banked for a better view Woolmer saw his face clearly through the Perspex canopy of his cockpit. He also saw the Japanese give him a rude thumbs-up sign.

Tim Hall’s Darwin 1942 describes a Thornton Hunter, a mess manager at one of the workmen’s camps on East Point. He was at “the hospital” when it was bombed, and then “a Zero came after him.” It machinegunned him, but he survived, and then “as the fighter roared over his head, he fancied he could see the pilot gesturing obscenely, a broad grin on his face.”

Allen Heckenberk, described in a news site’s account as “a 19-year-old ammunition loader on a three-inch anti-aircraft gun overlooking Darwin Harbour” was reported as advising that: “His gun was the first to open fire after a bomb hit the Stokes Hill wharf.” He then said: “I saw one drop a bomb on the destroyer and then he came low over us with one bomb left. We thought we were going to cop it, but as he flew over the dirty little mongrel (pilot) gave us a wave from his open cockpit.”

Mr Heckenberk must have been at Elliot Point, which had the only three-inch guns near the harbour. His claim to have opened fire first may have been misreported by the journalist, as the 3.7-inch artillery at the Darwin Oval was about a kilometer and a half closer to the incoming aircrafts’ line of flight. His report that a Val – the aircraft at such a low height could not have been the high-level three-man Kate – is interesting: it suggests the Val was carrying more than one bomb, which was not possible. Perhaps he confused the aircraft’s fixed undercarriage with a bomb.

Finally it suggests that either the aircraft had an open cockpit – the Val did not – or that the aircraft’s canopy was pushed back. Why a Val divebomber would have flown so low and so close to the AA site is unknown.

Peter Grose’s work An Awkward Truth gives some examples too. However, neither passage gives a source for the event: “Platypus’s crew were close enough to see the pilot wave and smile at them as he swept past.” Further on: “The Japanese pilots flew close enough for the gunners to see “rude finger gestures” delivered from the cockpit, doubling their fury.”

The problem with all of this is that the Japanese culture was very different from the West in their use of hand gestures, almost not possessing them. Simon Loveday, consultant to the authors, who has resided in that country for 35 years, advises:

The Japanese are lacking in gestures, particularly hand movements, when compared to other cultures. The ones that are used are used extremely infrequently and are those to represent the male and female: the male represented by a raised thumb and the female by a raised little finger. Equivalents to our V-sign or raised middle finger are non-existent except for those acquainted with western mores.

In the case of WWII therefore this acquaintance in any direct manner would have been minimal so any crude or obscene gesture intent was possibly more in the beholder’s eye. One can speculate therefore that a raised ‘gloved’? thumb could have meant therefore ‘Gotcha’; ‘I’m the boss’ or perhaps likely an attempt to recognize their common humanity and grudging acknowledgement that the viewer successfully escaped the attacked. A thumbs-down signalling rather more disparagingly says that they will be toast next time around.

To see a pilot’s face or lifted hands the aircraft would have had to have been around a hundred feet up: very close to the ground and at speed with absolutely no room for the slightest error in banking – or a wing dug into the ground and the end of everything would have been the result.

Further, the very act of lifting a hand from the controls of an aircraft close to the ground can be a dangerous one, and at around 70 miles an hour as a minimum (as the stalling speed of a Zero was 55 knots), not something done lightly. It is doubtful too that any observer would have had the time or the inclination to remain standing to see what a machinegunning fighter or bomber was doing. Any soldier who was not firing a weapon was being sensible in taking cover, and it’s difficult to find quotations from military personnel who weren’t doing their duty in this regard, although some exist: “Aeradio operator Bruce Ackland was at the Civil ‘Drome “…at times the [attacking] plane was no more than 200 ft up. Could see pilot distinctly.”

In summary, Japanese pilots likely did not make insulting gestures as they flew over Darwin. The stories probably arose as “tall tales” which were passed from one person present to another – and have since made their way into history.

-o-o-O-o-o-

Drawn from Carrier Attack, Avonmore Books, 2013, by Tom Lewis and Peter Ingman

Dot
Dot
February 19, 2024 9:34 pm

Today sent $$$ from Singapore to Sydney (CBA) to Perth (Bankwest) before lunch. The Sydney gerbils had gone home early so $$$ might arrive tomorrow, possibly

Gerbils might be a great sledge for anyone wukkin’ in the city.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 9:36 pm

Amazing then that Reuters is reporting that a British registered ship is British.

It says that it’s owned and operated by a Lebanese company. Lebanon is not in Britain. Your comprehension of the English language is odd Dover. As I said it’d be glorious fun if the Hezbies are the actual owners, which seems a distinct possibility given the circumstances. I can imagine the problem easily – the Houthi guy looks up the internet and says hey the Rubymar is registered in Pommyland! But doesn’t bother to look up who like actually owns and runs it. The Hezbies would not want their ownership to be widely visible, but if the Houthis have accidentally shot up a Hezbie ship there will be some fun in Tehran tonight.

If any actual Pommy ship is attempting the Red Sea right now they deserve a Darwin Award. Especially a small ship like this one. By inductive reasoning therefore these people had reason to believe they’d not be a target.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 9:37 pm

In summary, Japanese pilots likely did not make insulting gestures as they flew over Darwin. The stories probably arose as “tall tales” which were passed from one person present to another – and have since made their way into history.

Pity – I thought it made rather a good story!

Dot
Dot
February 19, 2024 9:37 pm

Barking Toad Avatar
Barking Toad
Feb 19, 2024 6:37 PM

This has to do with common decency which has been severely lacking here at dover’s.

Since when JMH? Apart from the usual banter and shit stirring and ability to scroll I’ve never noticed a lack of common decency.

Are you gay?

LOL. If Toad has JC’s back, this thing has probably dragged on too long.

Roger
Roger
February 19, 2024 9:38 pm

Frost on ANZAC day is a it rude. Frost anytime come to think of it.

We get four seasons here on account of being elevated and on the western slope of the Great Divide. Qld isn’t all tropical fruits and nuts.

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 19, 2024 9:39 pm

Apologies – I must have missed it.

Happy to be corrected, but didn’t the original hang over the snakepit bar in Campbell Barracks?

I posted it. You missed it. No sweat bro. As for Campbell Barrracks, I am not sure. Maybe that Yankee weaponry freak can ship it back.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 19, 2024 9:40 pm

Roger Feb 19, 2024 9:32 PM
She is reportedly facing a mutiny.

In common with anybody else who knows some Qld coppers, I confirm that she’s less popular with them than a turd in a swimming pool and has been for quite some time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 19, 2024 9:41 pm

The Brittany Blob swallows another victim as Lehrmann lodges a complaint over the Ch10 in-house lawyer. Still more to come I suspect.

Dot
Dot
February 19, 2024 9:42 pm

The Brittany Blob swallows another victim as Lehrmann lodges a complaint over the Ch10 in-house lawyer.

LOL, KEK, etc.

Roger
Roger
February 19, 2024 9:42 pm

Qld isn’t all tropical fruits and nuts.

But enough about the LNP.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 9:43 pm

A little parable of the dangers of falling into an “it sounds like something they would do” trap.
I visited court in Coastal Town recently as support for someone who had a minor matter to deal with.
While we were waiting we watched the passing parade of master-criminals. One bloke was up on charges of threatening to kill a schoolteacher because the teacher was going to take kids on an excursion to the Midsumma gay festival in Melbourne.
Not his kids.
He doesn’t have kids at the school.
Just being a regular “red shoes in tunnels under the pizza shop” kind of crusader saving the kids.
Except there was never any excursion remotely like this planned.
He is now a numpty with a record and looking at jail time.
Guess who won’t be allowed around kids now?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 19, 2024 9:43 pm

Are we sure that’s not just a CGI banana?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 9:44 pm

Nation’s heart is breaking … again in Alice Springs: tiny menaces, helpless police and no solution

exclusive
By liam mendes
Reporter
8:49PM February 19, 2024

It’s 8pm and the dust is settling across the ranges of Alice Springs when inside the town’s industrial area a group of kids arrive at the Pickles Auctions car yard.

They’re about to steal a car and lead police on a high-speed chase – an all-too-familiar scene here, where children as young as 10 are caught behind the wheel and ­immediately returned to a ­“responsible adult” – only to continue to reoffend.

Dozens of cars in the yard are protected by a 2m-high fence topped with razor wire, but the kids have their eyes on one in particular. It’s a Toyota Rav 4 they’ve stolen once before.

The first time ended badly – the car smashed up and ultimately hauled into the car yard, where it was written off by the insurance company.

But the car is drivable – and the kids still have the keys.

Jumping the razor wire fence, they climb into the SUV and drive it headlong into the heavy metal gate. It takes seven attempts to get through.

Soon the car is heading ­towards the centre of town.

It’s a pattern the residents of Alice Springs are well and truly used to. On one night last December, eight vehicles were being driven around town by out of control children and teenagers.

It’s just over 12 months since this city became the focus of ­national attention over out-of-control crime, but on the ground, locals say it’s never been worse.

In the early hours of Wednesday last week, there are four boys in the car: one aged 13, two aged 11, and the youngest just 10.

The boys are yelling and screaming from the vehicle, as they speed through town.

The driver can barely see over the steering wheel, the car mounting roundabouts, careening through red lights and on the wrong side of the road as the passengers hang out the windows.

Helpless police sit in their cars and watch as the kids perform donuts on the council lawns.

“You’re going to kill someone, stop,” one officer yells from his car as he flashes his torch at them.

Eventually police try to contain the vehicle with spike strips, but report that nearby youths on foot are tipping off the occupants about the spiking locations.

The vehicle is so badly damaged it struggles to reach its ­maximum speed, but on other ­occasions, cars have been clocked at more than 100km/h in some parts of town.

Just before 11pm, the boys abandon the vehicle outside K-Mart.

“With precision and skill, police located and apprehended four youths, aged between 10 and 13,” police say in a statement the following day.

The two 11-year-olds and the 10-year-old are conveyed to their homes and “handed over to a ­responsible adult”.

The 13-year-old, who was charged with theft, driving a motor vehicle without consent and damage to property, appears before a court the following ­afternoon. It’s his first time before the court. He sits there, apparently bored, running his hands through his hair. He does his best to avoid eye contact with anyone in the room as a police officer stands beside him.

In applying for bail, the court hears there have been three ­domestic disturbances at his proposed bail address within the last month.

His family and another family are also having a dispute.

The following day, he withdraws his bail application. He’d rather stay in jail than live at an ­alternative bail address in a ­remote community far removed from Alice Springs.

On average, there were 39 ­vehicles stolen every month in Alice Springs last year. Many of these vehicles ended up abandoned in the desert after they had been taken for a joyride or used in a ram-raid – often at a liquor store.

Northern Territory Country Liberal Party senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price says entire communities are being left to suffer and Aboriginal children are “fast-tracked into a life of crime and incarceration”.

“This is what happens when children are left neglected, in dysfunction, without the care and supervision they deserve,” Senator Price says.

“This is the result of division, of a new apartheid driven by Labor and their progressive Green allies so they force their agenda onto guilt-ridden Australians.

“If you really want to close the gap, we need less grandstanding in Canberra, and more action on the ground.

“To get real solutions, we need to hold people responsible and enforce consequences.”

A month ago a child care centre was placed into lockdown due to “unsettled protests and riots” in the CBD, with some people armed with weapons.

One late-night CBD proprietor – who asked for his name to be withheld for fear of reprisal – says the situation on the street is “getting worse day by day”.

“They want to kill people, there are public beatings and fights almost every night,” the business owner says.

“They need to do something, the government, otherwise everyone will be leaving here.

“It’s worse than last year, it’s getting worse day by day, they have to do something for the kids.

“This year I lost a lot of friends (who moved away), even my family is worried, they say ‘what am I doing here?’,” the person says.

In April last year, this journalist befriended a group of youths in the early hours of the morning on the streets of Alice Springs.

Soon after, the topic of conversation turned to stolen cars.

They surrounded my car, and joked about stealing it and taking it for a joyride. They took a great interest in my cameras, too, while keeping a watchful eye out for police.

“I don’t give a f..k, I can do anything before I become a man,” one very young boy said.

“Mister, mister, look here, can you see it?” another asked, as he showed me footage from inside a stolen car. “That’s me at the front, brother.”

“F..k the police, FTP, motherf..ker,” another said as they started playing American rap music.

They continued to gloat about breaking into homes and businesses, using tools such as screwdrivers and angle grinders, and claiming they’ve been to “juvie” for months at a time,

They started begging for a lift, pleading that it was cold. “We’ll go try steal a car,” one said.

When we parted company it was 4am – and their search for trouble seemed as if it still had a long way to go.

Perhaps the citizens of Alice Springs could hire a few security guards……..with big dogs……

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 9:44 pm

H B Bear

Feb 19, 2024 9:41 PM

The Brittany Blob swallows another victim as Lehrmann lodges a complaint over the Ch10 in-house lawyer. Still more to come I suspect.

It is certainly turning into a mega star-swallowing black hole.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 19, 2024 9:47 pm

Nation’s heart is breaking … again in Alice Springs: tiny menaces, helpless police and no solution

EXCLUSIVE
By LIAM MENDES

It’s 8pm and the dust is settling across the ranges of Alice Springs when inside the town’s industrial area a group of kids arrive at the Pickles Auctions car yard.

They’re about to steal a car and lead police on a high-speed chase – an all-too-familiar scene here, where children as young as 10 are caught behind the wheel and ­immediately returned to a ­“responsible adult” – only to continue to reoffend.

Dozens of cars in the yard are protected by a 2m-high fence topped with razor wire, but the kids have their eyes on one in particular. It’s a Toyota Rav 4 they’ve stolen once before.

The first time ended badly – the car smashed up and ultimately hauled into the car yard, where it was written off by the insurance company.

But the car is drivable – and the kids still have the keys.

Jumping the razor wire fence, they climb into the SUV and drive it headlong into the heavy metal gate. It takes seven attempts to get through.

Soon the car is heading ­towards the centre of town.

It’s a pattern the residents of Alice Springs are well and truly used to. On one night last December, eight vehicles were being driven around town by out of control children and teenagers.

It’s just over 12 months since this city became the focus of ­national attention over out-of-control crime, but on the ground, locals say it’s never been worse.

In the early hours of Wednesday last week, there are four boys in the car: one aged 13, two aged 11, and the youngest just 10.

The boys are yelling and screaming from the vehicle, as they speed through town.

The driver can barely see over the steering wheel, the car mounting roundabouts, careening through red lights and on the wrong side of the road as the passengers hang out the windows.

Helpless police sit in their cars and watch as the kids perform donuts on the council lawns.

“You’re going to kill someone, stop,” one officer yells from his car as he flashes his torch at them.

Eventually police try to contain the vehicle with spike strips, but report that nearby youths on foot are tipping off the occupants about the spiking locations.

The vehicle is so badly damaged it struggles to reach its ­maximum speed, but on other ­occasions, cars have been clocked at more than 100km/h in some parts of town.

Just before 11pm, the boys abandon the vehicle outside K-Mart.

“With precision and skill, police located and apprehended four youths, aged between 10 and 13,” police say in a statement the following day.

The two 11-year-olds and the 10-year-old are conveyed to their homes and “handed over to a ­responsible adult”.

The 13-year-old, who was charged with theft, driving a motor vehicle without consent and damage to property, appears before a court the following ­afternoon. It’s his first time before the court. He sits there, apparently bored, running his hands through his hair. He does his best to avoid eye contact with anyone in the room as a police officer stands beside him.

In applying for bail, the court hears there have been three ­domestic disturbances at his proposed bail address within the last month.

His family and another family are also having a dispute.

The following day, he withdraws his bail application. He’d rather stay in jail than live at an ­alternative bail address in a ­remote community far removed from Alice Springs.

On average, there were 39 ­vehicles stolen every month in Alice Springs last year. Many of these vehicles ended up abandoned in the desert after they had been taken for a joyride or used in a ram-raid – often at a liquor store.

Northern Territory Country Liberal Party senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price says entire communities are being left to suffer and Aboriginal children are “fast-tracked into a life of crime and incarceration”.

“This is what happens when children are left neglected, in dysfunction, without the care and supervision they deserve,” Senator Price says.

“This is the result of division, of a new apartheid driven by Labor and their progressive Green allies so they force their agenda onto guilt-ridden Australians.

“If you really want to close the gap, we need less grandstanding in Canberra, and more action on the ground.

“To get real solutions, we need to hold people responsible and enforce consequences.”

A month ago a child care centre was placed into lockdown due to “unsettled protests and riots” in the CBD, with some people armed with weapons.

One late-night CBD proprietor – who asked for his name to be withheld for fear of reprisal – says the situation on the street is “getting worse day by day”.

“They want to kill people, there are public beatings and fights almost every night,” the business owner says.

“They need to do something, the government, otherwise everyone will be leaving here.

“It’s worse than last year, it’s getting worse day by day, they have to do something for the kids.

“This year I lost a lot of friends (who moved away), even my family is worried, they say ‘what am I doing here?’,” the person says.

In April last year, this journalist befriended a group of youths in the early hours of the morning on the streets of Alice Springs.

Soon after, the topic of conversation turned to stolen cars.

They surrounded my car, and joked about stealing it and taking it for a joyride. They took a great interest in my cameras, too, while keeping a watchful eye out for police.

“I don’t give a f..k, I can do anything before I become a man,” one very young boy said.

“Mister, mister, look here, can you see it?” another asked, as he showed me footage from inside a stolen car. “That’s me at the front, brother.”

“F..k the police, FTP, motherf..ker,” another said as they started playing American rap music.

They continued to gloat about breaking into homes and businesses, using tools such as screwdrivers and angle grinders, and claiming they’ve been to “juvie” for months at a time,

They started begging for a lift, pleading that it was cold. “We’ll go try steal a car,” one said.

When we parted company it was 4am – and their search for trouble seemed as if it still had a long way to go.

Oz, complete article, no comments allowed. I dunno about the.”nation’s heart breaking” though.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 19, 2024 9:48 pm

We get four seasons here on account of being elevated and on the western slope of the Great Divide.

Perth has two seasons – too hot and too cold. Definitely too hot at the moment.

JC
JC
February 19, 2024 9:49 pm

H B Bear
Feb 19, 2024 9:43 PM

Are we sure that’s not just a CGI banana?

They’re going to ban most of AI, Bear, and essentially make it useless.

There are moves afoot though to operate AI from a ship in international waters. But if it gets too truthful, that ship is going to end up being hootie tootied, I reckon.

The problem is that CGI will eventually be so good that we won’t be able to tell if the vid is fake.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 9:50 pm

I think there have been predictions around here for a while that the Ten lawyer might be parting with her practicing certificate.
Having a Federal Court jurdge observe that he would doubt that a first year law student would tick off the Loggies speech is not ideal.
This is racking up victims quicker than the bubonic plague.

Winston Smith
February 19, 2024 9:51 pm

I’ll let everyone in on a secret about China and the Rest of the World:
China is a bully – but even more so than the British etc.
China lies. It lies even while others know it is lying. It lies because it knows it can get away with it. It makes bald faced lies that even a 5 year old wouldn’t believe.
It lies because it sees us as contemptible.
This is the basis for her relationship with us.
Let me repeat – it sees our leaders and the political/diplomatic class as effete and cowardly, ready to sell out our culture for yet another round of self aggrandisement and a place at the luxury of the negotiating table.
We could get some respect – by defending ourselves with a navy that could hurt them.
Until then, they will treat us with contempt.
“Among other evils, being unarmed brings causes you to be despised, and this is one of those ignominies against which a prince ought to guard himself.” Machiavelli.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 19, 2024 9:52 pm

Dover

Consequently, it either falls under the control of whichever regime re-unifies the entire country or is able to defend its claim to the territory.

Taiwan isn’t going to invade China, following your quote above, unless China successfully invades Taiwan, it is an independent nation.

Speedbox
February 19, 2024 9:53 pm

Roger
Feb 19, 2024 9:32 PM
She is reportedly facing a mutiny.

That doesn’t surprise me but it’s a serious faux pas to make a public statement (as a very senior public official) about tenure without at least briefing the Minister first. And sending a Briefing Note to his office 10 minutes before the press conference doesn’t count.

Perhaps it was pre-emptive before discontent in the ranks boils over? One thing is for sure – if the Minister was blindsided, his response will be less than happy.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 19, 2024 9:54 pm

PS, perhaps Taiwan could negotiate a mutually satisfactory arrangement with the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia et al on the whole Nine-Dash-Line business?

Then they could collectively tell China to back off?

Roger
Roger
February 19, 2024 9:54 pm

They’re going to ban most of AI, Bear

Or, as I call it, Artificial Obtuseness.

Good night, all!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 9:55 pm

Anyway, “Slainte” to all you mob. Mme Zulu is starting the dental work that should remedy the damage done by the vucking tumor, I’m booked in to get these knees treated, then the Highlands of Scotland, the Whisky Trail, and the banks of the Rhine suggest themselves.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 9:57 pm

Snap, Top Ender.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 9:57 pm

Top Ender.
What is your take on our new, improved smart and nimble navy?
Sounded a bit like a hurried re-branding without much substance to me.
But interested in your take.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 9:58 pm

Roger

Feb 19, 2024 9:54 PM

They’re going to ban most of AI, Bear

Or, as I call it, Artificial Obtuseness.

I think my natural born organic obtuseness will be too much for the computer version.
Bring it on!

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 19, 2024 9:59 pm

One bloke was up on charges of threatening to kill a schoolteacher because the teacher was going to take kids on an excursion to the Midsumma gay festival in Melbourne.
Not his kids.

In a heartbeat. The depravity!

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 19, 2024 10:07 pm

My daughter hasn’t experienced shit like Sancho mentioned. She is 15 now. If she complains to me about any creepy stuff like that, someone will get their head cut off.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 10:09 pm

Bruce Lehrmann files complaint against Ten lawyer Tasha Smithies over Lisa Wilkinson advice

exclusive
By janet albrechtsen
Columnist
and stephen rice
NSW Editor
8:17PM February 19, 2024

Bruce Lehrmann has lodged a complaint of professional mis­conduct with the NSW legal watchdog against the Ten Network’s most senior lawyer, alleging her advice to Lisa Wilkinson contributed to the long delay in his criminal trial.

In his complaint to the NSW Legal Services Commissioner, Mr Lehrmann alleges Ten’s senior litigation counsel Tasha Smithies “has displayed legal conduct that is wholly inadequate to uphold the fundamental principles of the rule of law”.

Mr Lehrmann claims that conduct began in June 2022, when Ms Smithies advised Wilkinson that she could give the Logies speech that caused his trial for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins to be stayed, through to last week, when she gave sworn evidence in Wilkinson’s claim against Ten for her legal costs.

Mr Lehrmann launched defamation proceedings against both Ten and Wilkinson, but the network’s former star believed it was not properly representing her interests and hired her own legal team, led by Sue Chrysanthou SC.

The network last week accepted it was reasonable for Wilkinson’s to have hired her own legal team, at a cost now expected to exceed $1m, and abandoned its defence against her cross-claim.

In his complaint against Ms Smithies, Mr Lehrmann says that “not only was her advice to Ms Wilkinson (as tendered in the Federal Court) evidence of a dereliction of her legal obligations but particularly egregious against her legal duty when an ongoing court matter is afoot, especially one of a criminal nature when liberty is at stake”.

Ms Smithies’ conduct “largely contributed” to his criminal trial in the ACT Supreme Court being ­vacated by Chief Justice Lucy McCallum, he is claiming.

“Ms Smithies displayed a contempt for the cross-claim proceedings, doubling down on her affidavit evidence that her advice to give the speech was proper and appropriate, yet it resulted in a contempt of court being committed in the ACT,” Mr Lehrmann’s claim states.

It should be noted that while Chief Justice McCallum was withering in her criticism of the Logies speech, no contempt charges were laid against Wilkinson or anyone else involved. However, Justice Michael Lee said in court last week that it was “of some surprise to me in the circumstances” to learn that the then Director of Public Prosecutions had advised Network Ten lawyers that he was not going to press for contempt proceedings to be commenced.

During the defamation proceedings last year, Justice Lee made scathing comments about Ten’s failure to waive legal professional privilege over its advice to Wilkinson, meaning it was difficult for him to decide whether it was reasonable for her to have made the speech.

“It is inconceivable to me that any legally qualified person could have given advice … that a Crown witness saying what was said in that Logies speech was anything other than inadvisable and inappropriate,” Justice Lee said in ­December.

“Now, that causes a difficulty in circumstances where I can’t see the legal advice,” he said.

“I think I have to think that a solicitor would give rational advice, or advice that someone who did a first-year criminal law course would give.”

Justice Lee reserved his judgment in the defamation case, but earlier this month the legal advice Ten gave Wilkinson was included in documents tendered during her cross-claim against the network.

Justice Lee asked Ms Smithies in the witness box last week during the cross-claim matter whether she recalled his remarks about the dilemma he faced in not having been able to see the legal advice on which Wilkinson acted.

Justice Lee: “In the light of that, didn’t you think that the mere fact of disclosing the fact of advice, rather than the content of the advice, wasn’t necessarily helping Wilkinson because I didn’t know what the advice was and … I couldn’t understand how that legal advice could have been given?”

Ms Smithies: “I would accept that, your Honour.”

Michael Elliot (Wilkinson’s barrister): “And Ten still didn’t ­disclose the substance of the ­advice, did it?”

Ms Smithies: “No, it didn’t.”

In the witness box, Ms Smithies accepted Wilkinson was relying on her to warn if there were any risks associated with the Logies speech but did not accept that her advice had exposed the TV host to widespread and damaging public criticism. She also did not accept she had not wanted to publicly admit the speech had been made following advice given by her.

“ I am not professionally or personally embarrassed by the advice that I provided to Ms Wilkinson,” Ms Smithies told the court.

Ms Smithies said an appropriate time for Ten to have disclosed the advice might “perhaps” have been after the Sofronoff inquiry, but conceded it hadn’t happened.

Ms Smithies also said that giving the speech was “the preferred course” because otherwise it might look as if Wilkinson was wavering in the support she had expressed for the preceding 18 months, which would have been “more prejudicial”.

Ms Smithies was approached for comment.

It is understood she had not been notified of the complaint.

John H.
John H.
February 19, 2024 10:10 pm

In all this squabbling about Taiwan, international law, history, and geography, why no mention of what the Taiwanese want? Does territory take precedence over people? Thousands placed in reeducation camps, assassinated, executed on charges of treason, a people once free now enslaved to a dictatorship that will never trust them, always suppress them, and never allow them freedom of speech, movement, and assembly. Stuff the people, they don’t count. All that matters is a set of abstractions that people will endlessly argue about.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 10:10 pm

Zafiro.
Read it again.
The guy issued a threat to kill over something that was not planned and never happened.
Reading shit on Facebook late at night full of piss and bad manners.

Dot
Dot
February 19, 2024 10:19 pm

The two 11-year-olds and the 10-year-old are conveyed to their homes and “handed over to a ­responsible adult”.

Conveyed you say?

In a conveyance?

Hold my beer. Fetch me my red shoes.

The (((person))) will meatt a reckuning like whatI give at the Gavelly Beach Pub,.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 19, 2024 10:20 pm

Hi Sancho.

Penning something on the new corvettes – or whatever is their name when they’re announced tomorrow – for The Spectator.

I’d be annoyed to see the Hunter class taken back to six…we will need all the platforms we can get.

Then again if it had been me we’d have had three carrier battle groups years ago; nuclear subs as well, and to raise manning levels all ADF people at major rank equivalent and below would not pay income tax. And sea duty allowance would be triple what it is now.

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 19, 2024 10:21 pm

Sancho Panzer
Feb 19, 2024 9:43 PM

Don’t shit me Leigh. I read it and understand it. Grow a set.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 10:23 pm

In all this squabbling about Taiwan, international law, history, and geography, why no mention of what the Taiwanese want? Does territory take precedence over people?

Pretty clear what the Taiwanese people want.

Opinion: Taiwan keeps choosing democracy — and rejecting China (17 Jan)

China has tried the velvet glove. China has tried intimidation and coercion. China has tried political warfare. Nothing has worked. Taiwan’s people keep delivering election results that are anathema to Beijing.

On Saturday, voters in the island democracy elected Lai Ching-te to the presidency. Lai, the current vice president, now leads the Democratic Progressive Party, which emphasizes Taiwanese identity and is skeptical of closer ties with China.

Last year they increased national service from 6 months to 1 year, without any protests that I’ve seen. Looks very much like the ordinary Taiwanese people are giving Pooh Bear the impudent middle finger.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 10:25 pm

Nation’s heart is breaking … again in Alice Springs: tiny menaces, helpless police and no solution

What used to happen to these tiny menaces, when they began running astray, is that the local wallopers would round them up, one dark and moonless night, run them eight or ten miles out of town, and tell them they would have to walk home.

They would then be told that “Featherfoot”, the tribal sorcerer was about, and he would sneak up behind them, in the dark, and smash their skulls in, with his stone club….very few ever reoffended, but the spoilsports from the Aboriginal Legal Service put a stop to the procedure….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 10:29 pm

Thanks TE.
Look forward to reading it.
I wonder if this is yet another Capex re-set which just puts us back another ten years.
“Second best tomorrow” said a wise man once upon a time.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
February 19, 2024 10:33 pm

Trouble at a town like Alice.

It must only be a matter of time before beleaguered residents and business owners say enough. Shotguns will come out and law breaking scrotes will come to a grisly end.

Then see the insipid judiciary and hand wringing socialists come to grips with angry law abiding citizens seeking justice previously denied.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 10:35 pm

Your thoughts, Top Ender?

RS Taylor
1 hour ago
This is the 12th largest economy in the world with the 47th largest navy and we spend half our GDP on welfare. They can find money, it’s votes that they are concerned about.

Indolent
Indolent
February 19, 2024 10:38 pm

It is the all too frequently posting of links to articles that do not substantiate their grandiose headlines, but instead dupe people into believing things that are not backed up simply for trusting the Cat.

The short clip I linked to clearly stated that the EU was considering banning repairs to older vehicles. This was purely in the way of news, and unsurprising news at that, or haven’t heard about the war on ICE cars? What they really want to do is ban them outright (which is no secret) and this is another step along that road. Talking about putting things to the EU parliament is a joke, because it actually has no real power, which lies in the hands of the unelected bureaucrats. If they’re talking about it, they’ll do it unless there’s another uprising like by the farmers.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 10:38 pm

smash their skulls in, with his stone club….very few ever reoffended

I’m no bleeding hart but geebus that was dark. You have lot stories nanna told you Zulu.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 19, 2024 10:46 pm

This is the 12th largest economy in the world with the 47th largest navy and we spend half our GDP on welfare

We’re going to have lots of really really deadly tinnies!

Small and lethal: navy pivot to counter China (Paywallian, 19 Feb)

A new fleet of small, well-armed warships will be the centrepiece of a sweeping restructure as Labor seeks to rebut claims it’s been too slow to respond to China’s threat.

Not sure where they’ll find enough sailors for them, however tiny.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 19, 2024 10:47 pm

Lode at 8.34:

Excellent skewering of Indolent’s ‘oh but I just put up stuff that some may find interesting’ schtick.

My all time favourite (so far) was the repeated linking to ‘Disney Execs Laugh While Being Handcuffed For Child Sex Ring Horror – “I’ll Be Out In An Hour”, They Said’.

Which was exactly what the piece was about. However, Indo failed to identify the ‘this article is satire’ warning which appeared in the piece no less than three times.

Sort of takes the gloss off the Klaus/EU/Lookit Them crap he somehow finds on the nuffernet. God only knows what else he does with his time.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 19, 2024 10:47 pm

You have lot stories nanna told you Zulu.

Bespoke, you doubt that story?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 19, 2024 10:49 pm

Featherfoot’s a real thing.

Trust me on this.

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 19, 2024 10:51 pm

I am working with some weirdo tranny at the latest job, he/she/it is a good operator and smashes it out. However i do not want my daughter being taught this shit is normal.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 10:53 pm

The short clip I linked to clearly stated that the EU was considering banning repairs to older vehicles. 

Said who exactly?
There is a yuuuge push in the EU to make all manner of consumer durables more repairable. But this relates to the manufacture of new goods, not banning existing products.

JC
JC
February 19, 2024 10:54 pm

Upspoke, Please ensure you pass every comment through the blog’s Chief Skepticism Officer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 19, 2024 10:55 pm

Featherfoot’s a real thing.

Trust me on this.

I don’t remember the name in Aboriginal culture, bur “Featherfoot” wore slippers, of emu skin, with the feathers on, so he didn’t leave tracks, and carried a stone club.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 19, 2024 10:56 pm

However, Indo failed to identify the ‘this article is satire’ warning which appeared in the piece no less than three times.

LOL!

Just…putting it out there.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 10:59 pm

My all time favourite (so far) was the repeated linking to ‘Disney Execs Laugh While Being Handcuffed For Child Sex Ring Horror – “I’ll Be Out In An Hour”, They Said’.

Neatly dovetails with my story of the moron who is now facing jail time because “trusted sources on the innernet” told him the local teacher was organising an excursion to the Midsumma gay romp.
Not a skerrick of truth in it.
But what was he supposed to think?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 19, 2024 11:01 pm

Time to get some kip.

I already know the boring work that will consume the first half of tomorrow.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 11:03 pm

Mother Lode

Feb 19, 2024 11:01 PM

Time to get some kip.

I already know the boring work that will consume the first half of tomorrow.

EU to ban left-footed socks?

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 19, 2024 11:05 pm

Who is Featherfoot? I can’t be bothered Googling or arguing. Just tell me and I will go to sleep happy.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 11:12 pm

Bespoke, you doubt that story?

Bed time story to scare kids into behaving. Possible we have those.
A story told to Zulu. Certainly.

Have you seen Featherfoot?

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 11:16 pm

A featherfoot or Kadiatcha man is a sorcerer in Australian Aboriginal spirituality. A featherfoot is usually a bad spirit who kills people. In most traditional Aboriginal beliefs, there is no such thing as a natural death. Every death is caused by evil spirits or spells. It is usually because of an enemy, who wants revenge for something.[1]

Winston Smith
February 19, 2024 11:17 pm

Bruce of Newcastle

Feb 19, 2024 10:23 PM
In all this squabbling about Taiwan, international law, history, and geography, why no mention of what the Taiwanese want? Does territory take precedence over people?
Pretty clear what the Taiwanese people want.

The Taiwanese know damn well what they are in for if they get ruled by Red China.
The Concentration Camps/Slave Factories.
Hong Kong was a nice hint about Communists behaving as Communists.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 19, 2024 11:18 pm

Tomorrow on The Indolent Roundup:

‘EU Set To Ban 10 Bold, Says Vagrant Cat Lady in Alice Springs’

Winston Smith
February 19, 2024 11:19 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Feb 19, 2024 10:25 PM

Nation’s heart is breaking … again in Alice Springs: tiny menaces, helpless police and no solution

What used to happen to these tiny menaces, when they began running astray, is that the local wallopers would round them up, one dark and moonless night, run them eight or ten miles out of town, and tell them they would have to walk home.
They would then be told that “Featherfoot”, the tribal sorcerer was about, and he would sneak up behind them, in the dark, and smash their skulls in, with his stone club….very few ever reoffended, but the spoilsports from the Aboriginal Legal Service put a stop to the procedure….

It worked, that’s why the ALS stopped it. Unless these kids go feral and stay feral, the ALS will be unemployed.

Muddy
Muddy
February 19, 2024 11:20 pm

… a sweeping restructure as Labor seeks to rebut claims it’s been too slow to respond to China’s threat.

The lead (development/build) time for these vessels will be, what … one decade? (If all goes well).
Isn’t it the case that we need to plan for what might happen tomorrow, but in 10-15 years?

Muddy
Muddy
February 19, 2024 11:23 pm

Hmmm, there was a word missing there in there.
Unforgivable.
I’ll see myself out.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 19, 2024 11:33 pm

Scientists are resorting to once unthinkable techniques to cool the planet because global efforts to check greenhouse gas emissions are failing. These geoengineering approaches were once considered taboo by scientists

MatrixTransform
February 19, 2024 11:35 pm

over something that was not planned and never happened

he said in a bold font because, believe me it’s true wasn’t convincing enough

tell us sancho, did you play road-chess on the way to the coastal town like usual?

I bet you won

… tell us the story anyway

MatrixTransform
February 19, 2024 11:37 pm

JC … 11:35

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 19, 2024 11:37 pm

Oooh. Not keen on Featherfoot. I believe in an a lot of the Abbo shit. They have been here for yonks and F off if you don’t switch on. Great people I have met are Abbos. I am talking proper Abbos. Not Bruce Pascoe or Lidia Thorpe.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 19, 2024 11:39 pm

Who is Featherfoot?

Just as some meanings do not translate well between languages – it is not possible to fully convey just how spooky the Kadaitcha man actually is.

JC
JC
February 19, 2024 11:44 pm

Minute late.

Rosie
Rosie
February 19, 2024 11:45 pm

My little lunch restaurant is busy and a single gentleman in a cloth cap came looking for a table, I signalled to the waitress he could share with me rather than wait.
Cap and scarf off, it’s a priest.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 19, 2024 11:47 pm

Phhht.
I had a Kadaitcha man turn up at work one day trying to put the frighteners on everyone.
Gave him a yuuuge spray and he left with his tail between his feathery feet.
Top Kadaitcha man was in the following morning, apologising profusely.
Trainee Kadaitcha apparently.
Which, of course, I picked straight away.

Digger
Digger
February 19, 2024 11:47 pm

A new fleet of small, well-armed warships will be the centrepiece of a sweeping restructure as Labor seeks to rebut claims it’s been too slow to respond to China’s threat.

I wonder if they actually know what a blue water navy actually means?

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 19, 2024 11:54 pm

Sancho Panzer
Feb 19, 2024 11:47 PM

Funny as per usual. Sod off

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 19, 2024 11:54 pm

I had a Kadaitcha man turn up at work one day

Even my dog can spot the flaw in this story.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 19, 2024 11:59 pm

Tomorrow on The Indolent Roundup:

‘Disney Execs Reject Kadaitcha Man Trilogy, Says Bloke In Paint Section at Bunnings’

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
February 20, 2024 12:26 am

Youse lot are funny bastards. Had me chuckling, Sancho.
Kadaitcha Man is actually very easy to understand- he’s the Big Bad Wolf, the Night Troll, the Sasquatch. If you leave the protection of the camp, esp at night, he’s a sexually mature (hairy) stranger who will have his way with you.
Gero girl I used to know said he could turn into a huntsman spider and would never leave tracks as he spidered over trees and fences… that did spook me a bit.
Then, I read marina Warner and Graves and Jung and Peterson and realised the universals.
I think Kadaitcha is a Yamitji word…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 20, 2024 12:35 am

This event was insane! That funny car going 341 mph. OMG!

This clip goes for 1:30:44. If you are not into drag racing, don’t click. I will say one thing, check out nitro at least once in your life.

Fun fact: A Formula One motor could not run that blower at max efficacy. It takes about 1000 hp.

LIVE: PRO Superstar Shootout at Bradenton Motorsports Park Saturday

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 20, 2024 1:04 am

My best mate in the Army Warren was an Abbo.. Born in Alice Springs but adopted by Dutch people in Adelaide . Him and a psycho mate Larry who went to Geelong Grammar two most intelligent people I have met. Larry also met Warren. We drove to Adelaide . They liked each other. Had good converse and drank a shit load of cans. Ended up sipping Port. LOL F that,

JC
JC
February 20, 2024 2:26 am

Interesting. I suspected there was something askew.
Brits designed the Moscow metro and then, of course, Stalin had the engineers arrested, given a show trial and deported .

It was 1931 when the plans to build the first stations were approved. Lazar Kaganovich was the man responsible for the design of the first line. The first order of business was to consult with his British counterparts, architect Charles Holden and administrator Frank Pick who had been working on the Piccadilly Line. Both men became advisors for the Soviet project. British engineers were charged with sorting out the functional importance, while the Soviets provided the labor and the artistic designs.

https://www.thecollector.com/moscow-metro-history-beauty/

Rosie
Rosie
February 20, 2024 3:46 am

Postcard Palermo.
Visited the Steri, a fortified Norman palazzo built by the Chiaramonte family in the early 1300s who were apparently originally Vikings.
Seized by the Spanish when they took over and eventually became home of the Spanish inquisition between 1601 and 1783.
There is prisoner graffiti there and I realised I was reading the Apostles Creed in English, the tour guide explained that the author was a muslim from Cornwall which I found a little puzzling, so did a little hunt when I got back to my apartment.
Makes more sense.
Never trust a tour guide (it was compulsory as the Steri is now part of the University of Palermo).

Drawings from the Inquisition prison cells of Palermo signed by 23 yo Cornish sailor John Andrews from Padstow (“Ioan Andres of Pasta”), captured by a Northern African galley, forced to convert to Islam only to return to Christianity and be sentenced by the Inq. as Protestant.

Further investigation shows he was sentenced to five years on the royal galleys.
Again tour guide failure as there clearly are extant records whereas she claimed all destroyed.

Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
February 20, 2024 4:14 am
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
February 20, 2024 4:26 am

Thanks Tom.

Rosie
Rosie
February 20, 2024 4:44 am

The 172m-long Rubymar is flagged in Belize, its operators are from Lebanon and its registered owner is Golden Adventure Shipping, with an address in the British port of Southampton.

bbc

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 20, 2024 5:15 am
Dot
Dot
February 20, 2024 5:43 am

This trucker boycott of NYC is an absolute win.

Rosie
Rosie
February 20, 2024 5:52 am

I’ve given up on staying in Trapini, it’s only accessible by bus and I’d have to double back to Palermo to go south.
I might day trip, 2 hours each way. I’ll see, still lots I could do here.
I’m going to follow JC’s suggestion from last year and stay in Cefalu and then, just passing though Messina, a couple of days in Taormina, I’ll double up visiting Siracusa because I missed the Ear of Dionysus last time, and it’s a beautiful city.

I’d like to go to Morgantina but that’s also a little difficult without a car.
Oh and Kalsa is definitely the better suburb to stay in, in Palermo, definitely not as colourful as my current location, despite being just on the other side of Via Roma.

johanna
johanna
February 20, 2024 6:11 am

The hydrogen fantasy, a black hole for taxpayer and investor dollars, continues unabated by reality:

EnergyAustralia chief executive Mark Collette said the high speed turbine was critical to firming capacity when renewables were not generating at high levels.

“Tallawarra B was built as a fast start gas turbine, it’s 320 megawatts can come online at full load in 30 minutes,” Mr Collette said.

“And that is providing enough power for 180,000 households in NSW during times of peak demand in summer and in winter.

“With these two machines we are building the firming capacity of the future that enables coal to retire.”

180,000 households is a drop in the bucket. There are more than 7 million people in NSW.

What did it cost, and who paid for it?

The project also had the support of $5 million from the federal government and $78 million from the New South Wales government, with the state money committed as part of the project’s green hydrogen promise.

The state government said in 2021 EnergyAustralia would buy enough green hydrogen equivalent to more than 5 per cent of the plant’s fuel use from 2025, which equated to 200,000 kilograms of green hydrogen per year.

About the hydrogen:

Mr Collette said the green hydrogen time line would depend on the market supply.

“We would like there to be a green hydrogen supply chain by 2025, we know that is not there yet,” he said.

“Our role is to create the demand through both of these power stations.”

Mr Collette said the gain for community came through supporting the transition away from coal.

“So a very big role for Tallawarra B is to step into creation before the next round of coal-fired power stations close and that is a benefit that all tax payers receive.”

They’re less convincing than your average Nigerian prince on the internet. But the Top Men, our betters, have wisdom that is shared by TheirABC and the dispensers of public money, but not with the rest of us.

There was an article in The Oz yesterday about how ‘clean energy’ spruikers and ANZ, among others, are frustrated by the slow progress of planning approvals for their projects. Apparently, tiresome environmental and other forms of green and red tape are standing between them and saving da planet via massive profits.

You’d have to have a heart of stone …

Rosie
Rosie
February 20, 2024 6:38 am
Rosie
Rosie
February 20, 2024 6:40 am
Rosie
Rosie
February 20, 2024 6:42 am

And a great way to get around prohibitions on funding terrorism.

Rosie
Rosie
February 20, 2024 6:43 am
Rosie
Rosie
February 20, 2024 6:47 am

Thomas Dalrymple is another who has been revealed as completely unhinged, he send a mob after Bella Wallersteiner and claims there are five million suffering Palestinians, the entire diaspora.
Susan Sarandon doubles down.

vr
vr
February 20, 2024 7:02 am

Rosie — Thanks for your (an Calli’s) suggestions on the things to do in Rome. I did most of it except going to Trastevere. Plan to go back next year. Fell in love with the country.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 20, 2024 7:14 am

Alexei Navalny died from the COVID vaccine and the fact that nobody wants to admit it is shameful

Hilarious or dumb take ya pick.

Indolent
Indolent
February 20, 2024 7:25 am
Rosie
Rosie
February 20, 2024 7:29 am

You are welcome VR.
Italy has so much to do and see.
Another thing, Guttuso joined the Italian communist party in 1940, according to our guide, his communism inspired his art, and this one, donated to the university is allegorical of Palermo .
I so wanted to joke that if it were a communist market it would have has seven pieces of food and hundreds of listless grey people lining up to buy.
Renato Guttuso’ famous painting at the Steri

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