Open Thread – Labour Day 2024


Sailors yarning, the midday rest, Henry Scott Tuke, late 19th/early 20th C.

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JC
JC
March 12, 2024 4:06 pm

Turtlehead

What’s funny is that you have dissemble to return serve. The rest of us just quote your exact words, which you then say people are lying about you.

You’re well aware that comment was mocking the site’s chess grand master and God Oracle . Keep using it though as it shows what a dishonest moron you are.

I actually rate you as equal to Faulty.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 4:13 pm

The Nuclear Free Staya sticker is peeling off your Datsun 120Y m0nster.
It’s not 1976 anymore.

Monty is a Nuclear Disarmament Party fanboi? Say it ain’t so! He probably has all of Midnight Oil’s discs on vinyl.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 4:17 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 4:06 PM

Begone you Fat Mafioso Bully Girly Pompous Windbag. What a Stoush Nurse you are. And if you stay here I will keep jamming Martin Armstrong right up that Fat Nose on your Fat Face.

Tosser.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 4:20 pm

Cronkite

The Rivers of Blood speech was in 1968. At the time no one even knew what Islam was. It was also about another time, which one conservative pundit described to John Anderson as a terrible speech that had nothing to do with the period. He claimed it also set back British conservatism by a decade. The pundit claimed that immigration in the 60s was working , whereas it doesn’t work now.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 4:22 pm

Begone? Wodney and Marty run the blog now?

Wodney, go watch an afternoon movie and stop spamming the site, you limey slimeball.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2024 4:22 pm

Nuclear Disarmament Party

A blast from the past. The good old days of Dee Margetts and the Gumnut Twins. FMD the Senate truly is beyond hope.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
March 12, 2024 4:31 pm

Penny Wrong: what happened on October 7 was bad, but what Israel is doing now is …
Give me a break. Israel handed Gaza to the Palestinians 18 years ago. Hamas staged a coup and evicted the former Palestinian Authority. They then turned Gaza into an armed camp which sent rockets into Israel.
Prior to that, the so-called Palis in the west bank had to be sealed off by a wall because they kept doing bombings in public places – like on buses or in restaurants.

Hugh
March 12, 2024 4:34 pm

1968. At the time no one even knew what Islam was.

Are you quite certain of that?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2024 4:38 pm

A blast from the past. The good old days of Dee Margetts and the Gumnut Twins

Jo Valentine? Saw her get hustled off the stage at a Wesfarmers A.G.M. a few years ago.

Turnip
Turnip
March 12, 2024 4:42 pm

with the personality of an turnip

In defence of turnips, I’m quite personable and an interesting dinner party guest.

Plus, I have a cunning plan.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 4:49 pm

You naughty conservative boys watching Riley Mae.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 4:52 pm

Imagine being defeated with such a mediocre prepositional phrase:

…”like, …change your gender?”

BIG OOF

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 4:52 pm

Douglas Murray.

Forgot his name. Had to look him up.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 12, 2024 4:57 pm

Has anyone been watching the Channel 9 defamation case?
The one with Dr Al Muderis.

Rosie
Rosie
March 12, 2024 4:58 pm

Someone makes the point, tattoos are low status, it’s hip to be trans.
So true.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 5:13 pm

bern up for air.

Has that French chick even cuddled you?

Wink twice if you need help.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 5:14 pm

Elon Musk bought Twitter for 44 bn USD.

If he bought BTC, he’d now instead have 143 bn USD.

It would have almost doubled his current net worth.

Let that SINK in.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 5:21 pm

Dot
Mar 12, 2024 4:04 PM
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cohenite
Mar 12, 2024 3:52 PM

They can probably express their ideas more clearly than you.

But not me; and Winston is right:

I still don’t know how Pinochet and “Rivers of Blood” (the bad conclusion Powell wanted to avoid) saves us.

As I understand it, Powell wanted to minimise the possibility of “Rivers of Blood” by stopping culturally incompatible immigration.

We didn’t do that, indeed we are expanding the problem. Step 1 has to be to stop culturally incompatible immigration. Step 2 has to be to reduce the numbers of culturally incompatible immigrants here, possibly by paying them to go away. Step 3 is to enforce assimilation by those who choose to remain. No special privileges, and equal application of the law.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 5:22 pm

Dover

Murray is someone who has a great deal of enmity for Islam and in that respect he holds the cards.

If you’re only going to notice that immigration has become a problem when it has become a problem its usually too late.

Yeah, Harry Hindsight is right 100% of the time.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 12, 2024 5:26 pm

Pauline Hanson v Faruqi defamation case going to be interesting.
2 Paras from the Oz article
“As part of building evidence for the case, Senator Faruqi’s representation Marque Lawyers tweeted an online survey when proceedings began. The survey, titled “How Does It Make You Feel?”, asked participants “to indicate your view” on the tweets from Senator Hanson.

The survey was viewed by 9430 people, and 776 filled it out. Nine of them had their Twitter accounts tendered as evidence”

Twitter surveys now become evidence ! WTF. Anybody who has seen Marque Lawyers on Twitter knows they are perfect fit for Faruqi.

If they can do a survey on Pauline then it would be like doing a survey on Faruqi amongst Sydney lawyer Tony Nikolic’s Twitter followers.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 5:29 pm

Rooster

Link to the Oz article.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 5:30 pm

As I understand it, Powell wanted to minimise the possibility of “Rivers of Blood” by stopping culturally incompatible immigration.

Yes. Precisely the point.

General Pinochet and Rivers of Blood won’t fix Western societies.

It is now at the point that it will take a Pinochet style of government and “Rivers of Blood” to save Western civilisation.

I very strongly disagree.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 5:32 pm

dover0beach
Mar 12, 2024 5:20 PM
On nuclear v solar, UAE just built 4 new reactors in a single facility that generates about twice the amount of Loy Yang in 9 years and under budget. I wonder why a Gulf state didn’t just go solar?

Perhaps they like things to operate after sunset, when mUnturd just wants to sit down and inhale donuts? He does it by touch, so light is not essential.

Vicki
Vicki
March 12, 2024 5:32 pm

Give me a break. Israel handed Gaza to the Palestinians 18 years ago. Hamas staged a coup and evicted the former Palestinian Authority. They then turned Gaza into an armed camp which sent rockets into Israel.
Prior to that, the so-called Palis in the west bank had to be sealed off by a wall because they kept doing bombings in public places – like on buses or in restaurants.

Absolutely. The trouble with these new armchair critics of Israel is that none of them seem to know anything of the history of Gaza & the West Bank. Not that the ignorance deters them – they just ignore any protestations about the reality of the past few decades. They are ideologues – even if the ideology arises from pitiful understanding of the facts.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 5:32 pm

The survey was viewed by 9430 people, and 776 filled it out. Nine of them had their Twitter accounts tendered as evidence”

1/1000 might be evidence of nothing but a fringe ideology.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 5:35 pm

Dot
Mar 12, 2024 5:30 PM
As I understand it, Powell wanted to minimise the possibility of “Rivers of Blood” by stopping culturally incompatible immigration.

Yes. Precisely the point.

General Pinochet and Rivers of Blood won’t fix Western societies.

I offered three steps to at least reduce the problem, what is your solution?

Vicki
Vicki
March 12, 2024 5:35 pm

One of the more encouraging snippets of news in the past few days was the remark by one of the Saudis that the Pallies are “not worth a toothpick”!

Loved it. So true & expressed in ME terminology!

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
March 12, 2024 5:39 pm

Dot- things that make you go hmmmmm-
1, what is Twitter’s present market valuation?
2, how big a bitcoin selloff would you need to bring the bitcoin market price down, even by say 5%?
…and an observation, Elon is deep in Bitcoin as a trading currency, so I’ve got no doubt he’s aware of the ironing.

Vicki
Vicki
March 12, 2024 5:43 pm

BTW re our dispute with energy provider over gigantuan electricity bill:

1. discovered that in the last quarter when a smart meter was installed we are on a “plan” (who knew?) that costs us mightily. Of course, the supplier had not given us any options. We are supposed to know these things.

2. It seems our oversize and antiquated roof air con is gulping down loads of energy. As I type this we have an aircon techo examining it to see if we can just replace the motor. Of course it was an independent sparky who explained this to us & suggested a remedy. He had some bad bad things to say about these unscrupulous energy companies.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2024 5:54 pm

Jo Valentine? Saw her get hustled off the stage at a Wesfarmers A.G.M. a few years ago.

She should try again. I expect she would be welcomed with open arms these days.

Alamak!
Alamak!
March 12, 2024 6:03 pm

On nuclear v solar, UAE just built 4 new reactors in a single facility that generates about twice the amount of Loy Yang in 9 years and under budget. I wonder why a Gulf state didn’t just go solar?

Possibly the numbers look better for the glowing stuff over the sunny stuff when all costs taken into account over the long haul?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 12, 2024 6:13 pm

The survey was viewed by 9430 people, and 776 filled it out. Nine of them had their Twitter accounts tendered as evidence”

1/1000 might be evidence of nothing but a fringe ideology.

Wasn’t the same chicanery behind the widely touted “97% of scientists” about Global Warming (as it was still quaintly known in those days)?

They sent out a survey to a vast hodge-podge legion of some 1200 or so scientists of whom only a fraction even responded. With a few more convenient parings they whittled it down to 77 out of 79 agreeing that the climate was heating and that human activity was chiefly to blame. There’s your 97%.

In fact out of 1200 they only got 77 who bothered to agree.

We call this 6%.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 6:14 pm

Just been having a squiz at the Fallout trailer. Looks promising. Any chance that we could drop Monty into that world in a pair of undies and nothing else?

Fallout – Official Trailer | Prime Video (8 Mar)

The trailer was enough to make my pee glow. /Girdershade

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 12, 2024 6:19 pm

No time to write about it now, but the Lazard LCOE study that appears to be the final word on nuclear generation is a massive technical and analytical disgrace. Methodology condemned within the report itself.

Safe to assume that Lazard has a significant commercial linkage to renewables.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2024 6:25 pm

General Pinochet and Rivers of Blood won’t fix Western societies.

Pinochet prevented the rivers of blood by not letting the communists into power and he didn’t have to kill all that many before the rest fell into line. Unfortunately Chile has fallen back into socialism.
It’s the lure of easy money, it’s got a very strong appeal.

What is your fix, Dot?

Vicki
Vicki
March 12, 2024 6:27 pm

A wonderful old fashioned tradie arrived who kew “his stuff” to investigate out electricity load problems. Found that a fan on the air con was blocked. If we are very lucky – that is the source of the problem. Will find out next week.

The two sparkies that have been involved in this problem have been terrific. It restores our faith in Oz. These are the people who have been screwed most by our lousy polllies. Tragedy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2024 6:33 pm

dover0beach
Mar 12, 2024 5:20 PM
On nuclear v solar, UAE just built 4 new reactors in a single facility that generates about twice the amount of Loy Yang in 9 years and under budget. I wonder why a Gulf state didn’t just go solar?

Because they’re not idiots?
Because it’s their own money?
I dunno.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 6:33 pm

Murray was criticizing Powell and yet he was right overall about immigration.

He made the speech in 1968. We’re now in 2024 and Powell had no freaking idea what was going to occur 56 years later or the various things that would occur to kick off the current plight. Moreover, your criticism of Murray is simplistic and trivial at best. Rather than assess the value of the criticism, for you, it’s enough to say, Oh, he’s a right-liberal. And you’ve never provided a reasoned commentary on what you mean by liberal. It appears that being liberal to you means anything you disagree with.

That’s not Harry Hindsight. Moreover, the ‘Harry Hindsight’ stuff is a bit of a palm off, especially when actual conservatives are pointing out the imprudence of doing X or Y and being told when X or Y happens the liberal replies, “sorry, we couldn’t foresee the likely consequences of X or Y”.

Ok, whatever that means.

Harry Hindsight is mocking people who think they can accurately predict the future as though they were prediction muftis. Like Faulty 2.

Faulty 2/Turtlehead said there have been 65 murders and injuries since the 2001 by musilms.

There have been 65 murders and wounding’s in Britain since 2001 by Muslims.

Answer this, although every single one is tragic and evil, is this a river of blood to you… over 23 years? Is this the Thames filled with blood?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2024 6:41 pm

Vicki
Mar 12, 2024 6:27 PM
A wonderful old fashioned tradie arrived who kew “his stuff” to investigate out electricity load problems. Found that a fan on the air con was blocked. If we are very lucky – that is the source of the problem. Will find out next week.

Get a sparkie.
Don’t get an “aircon perfessional”.
Tits on a bull calf.

Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 6:51 pm

Richard Vobes

EXPLOSIVE Evidence of Government Fraud

This is the sources of the Expose article I posted this morning.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 6:52 pm

Dover

In the Thames filled with blood speech, was Powell also including this cohort of Ne’er-do-wells?

Irish people in Great Britain
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Irish_people_in_Great…
It is estimated that as many as six million people living in the UK have at least one Irish grandparent (around 10% of the UK population).

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 12, 2024 6:54 pm

Of course, you all realise that Martin Armstrong doesn’t actually write his grifterbait himself.

Looking at the plethora of recent posts, it is abundantly clear that he’s using a ChatGPT prototype.

He’s not even dialling it in. He’s clicking a mouse and watching the gullible empty their wallets.

Foxbody
Foxbody
March 12, 2024 6:57 pm

Much discussion of Enoch Powell’s famous “ Rivers of blood “ speech in 1968.
As I understand it, Powell was not predicting blood in the streets, although those in favour of huge immigration to western counties now present it as such.
Powell was a very erudite professor of classics – was at Sydney Uni and tutored Gough Whitlam before returning to the UK to enlist when WW11 started.
Powell was referring to a phenomenon where the River Tiber occasionally ran red (algal bloom?) and the ancient Romans took this as signifying approaching calamity.
Powell saw then current evidence as likewise signifying coming problems, as an Ancient Roman would have done on seeing the Tiber running blood red.
The classical reference Powell made was and is completely clear – many educated adults in 1968 would have understood it. In 1968 only those in public life determined to misrepresent his warning
misquoted Powell and this has become the accepted version.
Easy to forget today how widespread some education in the Classics was.
My father was very working class, went to a Catholic school – and like many of his schoolmates, could still write the Greek alphabet and decline Latin verbs 40 years later.
Latin was needed to study Law and Medicine until the 1960s, too, I believe.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2024 6:58 pm

BoN,

There might just be people who survive outside the fallout shelters.
The inimitable Ms Leslie Fish “hello, remember us?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O68DedIacWM
I also liked this one about the gang who come to a post apocalypse town with the promise to set up a “government”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erkZP4Ii4fQ

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 12, 2024 7:02 pm

shatterzzz.

SHATTERZZZ!

Your post earlier about the inflated bill for breakfast at a Darwin cafe was on the money (the NT News):

A Darwin cafe has been accused of ripping off its customers after a receipt showing the eye-watering price of breakfast for two circulated online.

This week, a Reddit user revealed they had paid $77 for two egg and bacon rolls and two iced coffees at a “Darwin beachside cafe” on the weekend.

The receipt was attached to the post, with the total price shocking the online community.

“Darwin: where the meth is cheaper than the iced coffee,” commented one Reddit user in response to the post.

The $7 Sunday surcharge gave it away.

“And the audacity to add a Sunday surcharge,” commented one user.

“Boomers were right. It’s the avocado man,” wrote another, sarcastically.

Darwin boomers generally sport grey beards to the waist, and wear King Gees and hi-vis in beer gardens 24/7.

cohenite
March 12, 2024 7:07 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 4:20 PM
Cronkite

The Rivers of Blood speech was in 1968. At the time no one even knew what Islam was.

Islam, blacks, Pakis etc; the point Enoch was making is preferential treatment to immigrants who do not share the host nations values and laws, in fact despise and oppose them, is a disaster. Boambee John (Mar 12, 2024 5:21 PM) puts forward some solutions which would have worked. Unfortunately we are beyond that now. Powell was very prescient, although its just common sense that if you let someone into your house who hates you, you are going to have trouble. Powell may have been thinking of a potential race war, which is still on the cards, BLM etc, but his point still holds for islam, even more so.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 7:08 pm

Absolutely. The trouble with these new armchair critics of Israel is that none of them seem to know anything of the history of Gaza & the West Bank. Not that the ignorance deters them – they just ignore any protestations about the reality of the past few decades. They are ideologues – even if the ideology arises from pitiful understanding of the facts.

Yes and as the Gaza Strip used to be held by Egypt at one time then just give it back to them. Their problem then –

“The 1949 Armistice Agreements, which ended the 1948 Arab–Israeli War by delineating the Green Line as the legal boundary between Israel and the Arab countries, left the Kingdom of Egypt in control of a small swath of territory that it had captured and occupied in the former British Mandate for Palestine: the Gaza Strip.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 7:12 pm

Eyrie – You make me want to read Alas Babylon again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2024 7:12 pm

Powell was a very erudite professor of classics – was at Sydney Uni and tutored Gough Whitlam before returning to the UK to enlist when WW11 started

Powell thought Whitlam had a very second-rate mind.

cohenite
March 12, 2024 7:13 pm

ABC anchor/shitstain George Stephanopoulos’ interview with Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C was despicable even by demorat standards. Mace was raped and has endorsed Trump. The little shitstain said how could she endorse someone who has been found by a jury to have raped another shitstain, E Jean. Mace corrected him a number of times that Trump had not been found guilty of any crime but was found by a jury of other shitstains to have committed sexual assault against the E. Jean shitstain by denying he had raped her.

There are a number of ironies and lies sliding around here not the least of which is that george was one of the most frequent visitors on Epstein’s pedo island as Greg Kelly explains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxPNA1EqsVY

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 7:17 pm

JC

Mar 12, 2024 3:43 PM
Turtlehead, what meds are you doing? I want to check out the side effects. I want to see if grandiose hyperbole is on the list.

I’m speaking the Kings English, JC.
Is it unfamiliar to you, living in the stratified heights of society you exist in?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 7:17 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 4:22 PM

Begone yerself’ – Spamming with “Faulty alert”. LOL. You Stoush Nurse and Pompous Windbag.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 7:21 pm

Cronkite

I’m really not sure things were like they are now in the 60’s. That was a time when there was a very heavy hand to assimilate. Multi cult came well after.

Look, I’m not holding you back, if you want to send muzzos back then you decide.

But what about French waitresses though. They’re so cute and they speak english in that accented frog. How could you send them back. Italian waitresses? Fling them all back. 95% tramp stamped.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 7:22 pm

Wods

How’s that “sports car”. The Porsche Miata?

Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 7:23 pm
Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 7:24 pm

A real democracy. Lock people up for even questioning an election when they win but –

POLL: Majority of Democrat Voters Oppose Certifying the 2024 Election if Trump Wins

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2024 7:25 pm

Eyrie – You make me want to read Alas Babylon again

Excellent novel.

Thanks for the recommendation of “Bob’s Saucer Repair”. Fun read. Mrs Eyrie is enjoying it too.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 7:25 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 4:20 PM
Cronkite

The Rivers of Blood speech was in 1968. At the time no one even knew what Islam was. It was also about another time, which one conservative pundit described to John Anderson as a terrible speech that had nothing to do with the period. He claimed it also set back British conservatism by a decade. The pundit claimed that immigration in the 60s was working , whereas it doesn’t work now.

If no one knew what Islam was, how come Winston Churchill made several famous quotes about it. Here’s one:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
? Winston Churchill, The River War

miltonf
miltonf
March 12, 2024 7:28 pm

We have Nurse Betty and Nurse Ratchet. Anyone remember Nurse Diesel from High Anxiety?

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 7:30 pm

Turtlehhead, you only think I live in “stratified heights” because you’re a former nurse.

Seeing you dishonestly ascribed to me somehting that I did not say about myself, let me quote you someone who accurately does describe the garbage you post here most days with a little extra at the end.

No bites here.

Other things that didn’t occur:

PLA invasions via Tullamarine;
PLA invasions via dirt airstrips in the Kimberley;
Indians stealing my fuel; and
Nuclear attacks in regional Quenthland requiring iodine stockpiling.

Things that have actually occurred:

Overrepresentations of male serial killers with nursing occupations.

cohenite
March 12, 2024 7:31 pm

But what about French waitresses though. They’re so cute and they speak english in that accented frog. How could you send them back. Italian waitresses? Fling them all back. 95% tramp stamped.

In an effort to distil the logic of this here is a cute owl. Her name is a delight.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 7:36 pm

Iodine Betty, “No one knew” is a general comment. Only a moron would think that no one knew means exactly 100%. If Chruchill wrote about that, where was the groundswell of opinion supporting his views in the conservative movement at the time?

But let’s not take thing too far from your comments. You believe there’s going to be civil war in Europe and the US. You also believe there’s going to be an economic disaster in the US commencing in August. Have you been taking lessons from Faulty?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 7:37 pm

IMMUNITY

“The Constitution doesn’t directly discuss presidential immunity from criminal or civil lawsuits or immunity for other government officials. Instead, this privilege of Presidential has developed over time through the Supreme Court’s interpretation of Article II, Section 2, Clause 3:

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

The legal doctrine concerning Presidential Immunity dates back to its 1867 decision Mississippi v. Johnson, 171 U.S. (4 Wall.) 475 (1867), where the Supreme Court established that the President is largely beyond the reach of the judiciary by holding that it could not direct President Andrew Johnson in how he exercised his purely executive and political powers. The ONLY exception is an impeachment for a crime. The Court stated it had no jurisdiction . . . to enjoin the President in the performance of his official duties.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/immunity/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 7:38 pm

Dot

Mar 12, 2024 5:30 PM
As I understand it, Powell wanted to minimise the possibility of “Rivers of Blood” by stopping culturally incompatible immigration.
Yes. Precisely the point.
General Pinochet and Rivers of Blood won’t fix Western societies.
It is now at the point that it will take a Pinochet style of government and “Rivers of Blood” to save Western civilisation.
I very strongly disagree.

Disagree as you will, but history shows that when peoples backs are against the wall, they are capable of all sorts of atrocities.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 7:39 pm

Foxbody is correct – ‘rivers of blood’ was a classical reference.

Powell, for all his intellectual and rhetorical brilliance, had a blind spot in that he was more concerned with West Indian immigration than that from the sub-continent, possibly because he held the culture of the latter in quite high regard and could speak Urdu.

Nearly sixty years later, it’s clear that the West Indian migrants were much more able and willing to fit in with British culture than their sub-continental and Pakistani counterparts in particular, not least because many of them were devout Christians.

Muddy
Muddy
March 12, 2024 7:43 pm

Is there anything more representative of the socio-cultural spasm in our nation right now than a Murri* (Qld indig) driving school?

If the business is not taxpayer-subsidised, and the owner is taking advantage of an identified service shortage – good on them.

The idea though, that only the accumulation of 660,000 years of indigenous ‘continuous living automotive culture’ is appropriate for individuals partially descended from people who did not even possess shoes, let alone the wheel, must be close to the height of P.D. (Peak Dissonance).

The continuing efforts to create and enforce segregation to cover for what amounts to extortion – nothing more than theft on an almost immeasurable scale – stands in bollocks-naked contrast to every atom of halitosis propaganda launched against us. The last two words – ‘against us’ – are the nub of it all.

* I don’t know which regional dialect the word ‘Murri’ came from, but to use one word from one geographic area to describe the total inhabitants of a huge state (coloniser boundaries!), seems to be somewhat patronising and disrespectful, no?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 12, 2024 7:45 pm

Candace Warner speaking about racism on The Back Page, Focks Sports’ panel show.

Not only is she painfully uninformed, she looks like a greyhound with mascara on.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 7:48 pm

Cats in the day the Libs lose yet another election due to pursuing policies that Cats love: “oh those SFLs, we hate those losers, screw those guys”

Cats on every other day: *marches with phalanx formation in lockstep with every single LNP trial balloon, talking point and brain fart*

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 7:49 pm

Disagree as you will, but history shows that when peoples backs are against the wall, they are capable of all sorts of atrocities.

You said there have been 65 murders and woundings since 2001. Most of those, I would guess, occurred in the 10’s such as the bus explosion incident. Where is this river of filled with blood, Iodine?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2024 7:49 pm

Powell, for all his intellectual and rhetorical brilliance, had a blind spot in that he was more concerned with West Indian immigration than that from the sub-continent,

Powell’s biography “Like The Roman”, by Simon Heffer, makes that point, at some length.

Delta A
Delta A
March 12, 2024 7:49 pm

In defence of turnips

Very well played, Turnip.

Muddy
Muddy
March 12, 2024 7:50 pm

Foxbody
Mar 12, 2024 6:57 PM

Informative post. Thanks.

Turnip
Mar 12, 2024 4:42 PM

Baldrick!

(We had a Baldrick here, didn’t we?).

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 7:51 pm

Roger
Mar 12, 2024 7:39 PM

Which, by your characterization means he was wrong then?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 12, 2024 7:55 pm

JC,
How can I put this politely.

Eat poo.

PS in case anybody missed my earlier comment JC is the blogs dickhead. However you do have to admit he works hard to be No 1.

“Rooster

Link to the Oz article”.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 7:58 pm

Rooster

Just provide links. Learn how to do it and stop the childish behavior. It’s not impossible, even for you.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 8:09 pm

JC:

Faulty 2/Turtlehead said there have been 65 murders and injuries since the 2001 by musilms.
There have been 65 murders and wounding’s in Britain since 2001 by Muslims.
Answer this, although every single one is tragic and evil, is this a river of blood to you… over 23 years? Is this the Thames filled with blood?

Did you even look at the link I gave?
65 instances where people were killed or wounded. One of those was the Ariane Grande where 22? were killed.
You can go and count them up in the Link I gave.
And yes, the Thames was bloodied by one of the attacks on the bridge.
And if it had been one of your kids at the concert, I bet you wouldn’t be so smarmy and dismissive.

Muddy
Muddy
March 12, 2024 8:13 pm

I only heard about the Primate Footypocalypse today, so I probably don’t possess a Caroline Wilson-level understanding of the matter, but I’d imagine that your average parking enforcement and corrections officers would receive 100X that attention on any given day. In fact, I called my landlord something much worse just recently. (Luckily she wasn’t wearing her hearing aid).

We have people in the streets celebrating the horrific deaths of Israelis (and foreign workers – I cannot comprehend the trauma of slow decapitation with a hoe), yet blokes who get paid squillions to molest each other in public are so fragile that a single word renders them liquid?

My grandfather’s generation who gave part of their youth or young adulthood, must be turning their whole bodies away from us in shame. Our shallow existence is worthy of a void in the history books.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 8:16 pm

Cats on every other day: *marches with phalanx formation in lockstep with every single LNP trial balloon, talking point and brain fart*

No mUnturd, look in the mirror. That’s leftards and the Daily Leftard Talking Points.

John H.
John H.
March 12, 2024 8:17 pm

Roger
Mar 12, 2024 7:39 PM
Foxbody is correct – ‘rivers of blood’ was a classical reference.

Nearly sixty years later, it’s clear that the West Indian migrants were much more able and willing to fit in with British culture than their sub-continental and Pakistani counterparts in particular, not least because many of them were devout Christians.

AND cricket lovers!

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 8:18 pm

Powell didn’t need to see what would occur in 2024, it was enough for him to predict major problems arising with mass immigration from culturally distinct countries. Murray is simply trying to quarantine contemporary criticisms of immigration from associations with Powell.

1. Powell was being selective with the countries he was grousing about. See Roger’s commentary earlier. He got even that part wrong.

2. How do you know what Murray was attempting? This mind reading caper is really something. Your very first criticism of Murray’s comments was that he’s a lib-right. When that didn’t work because I reminded you of his immigration comments, you’ve meandered off, and now it’s about quarantine or something.

Murray’s criticisms of Muslim immigration and related issues can’t be faulted from that side of the debate. He’s calling it as he sees it, even if he is a lib-right, as you referred to him.

I’ve provided explanations and clarifications in the past, they’re only controversial because of the implications they have for right-liberalism.

I disagree.

Like they mocked Powell, only to be mugged by reality later on.

Powell was talking about the present at that point in time. Mugged by reality has nothing to do with it, moreover, where is this bloody river?

You’re asking me if certain facts fit his metaphor?

No, as you well know, I’m asking you if the history of 65 evil deeds over 23 years fits into Turtlehead’s belief that the UK is nearing or has entered a civil war.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 8:18 pm

Paging Dot to the “man loses all will to live” phone..

https://twitter.com/reddit_lies/status/1767354238823256521/photo/1

Also the Fitzsiminan – smashed in the brains too much by the French or not enough??
Peter FitzSimons
@Peter_Fitz
Ian, if Ivermectin, is wonder drug you say it is, it must be counted as surprising that producers of the drug put out SPECIFIC warnings saying that this was a horse dewormer ONLY, and NOT to be used for Covid?
Were they in on the conspiracy, too, to do down their own drug? (#FFS)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 8:19 pm

the Libs lose yet another election due to pursuing policies that Cats love

Monty – Truth is always the minority position. It’s why Christians understand what the bible teaches about the remnant, the minority report if you like. As Einstein said to the 100 authors against him that if he was wrong it would take only one of them to demonstrate that. None did. I can’t help but notice that you have failed completely to demonstrate that any policies we discuss or advocate are wrong. That’s because we are correct, on the bases of science, logic and economics, and you are not.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 8:23 pm

Which, by your characterization means he was wrong then?

I think he was wrong in his assessment of West Indian migrants, yes, although we’re necessarily taking in general terms.

Culturally, the WIs were more “British” than the migrants from the sub-continent, be they Hindu or Muslim. Powell didn’t recognise that because of certain cultural – not racial – prejudices that he mistakenly held.

The real problem, however, was that all were British Commonwealth subjects entitled to migrate to Britain under the law at the time. The immigration law had not kept up with reality, just as international refugee law today, based as it is on the post-WWII context, is unfit for contemporary purposes.

John H.
John H.
March 12, 2024 8:24 pm

Roger
Mar 12, 2024 7:39 PM
Foxbody is correct – ‘rivers of blood’ was a classical reference.

Nearly sixty years later, it’s clear that the West Indian migrants were much more able and willing to fit in with British culture than their sub-continental and Pakistani counterparts in particular, not least because many of them were devout Christians.

Islam needs to go down the same road as Scientology. It was tolerated for decades and then something happened. IIRC Germany banned it, people started speaking out against it, and even Hollywood actors are abandoning it, with one in particular publicly declaring war on it. I haven’t seen references to Islamophobia lately. Perhaps that signifies a turning point. I hope so. A few European nations, while not explicitly stating they are targeting Muslims, recently have adopted policies that are aimed to reducing their numbers and I imagine have created stricter immigration measures to prevent more entering their countries.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 8:24 pm
Rosie
Rosie
March 12, 2024 8:26 pm

horse dewormer ONLY, and NOT to be used for Covid?

Fitzsimons couldn’t get that right either, it’s prescribed for humans for a number of parasitical infections, that’s why it’s a miracle drug and Merck who manufactures it for human use, said they didn’t think it was effective against covid.

Megan
Megan
March 12, 2024 8:27 pm

Powell thought Whitlam had a very second-rate mind.

He was understating the reality.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 8:29 pm

Powell’s biography “Like The Roman”, by Simon Heffer, makes that point, at some length.

I haven’t read Heffer, but if he agrees with me he’s obviously a good man!

😀

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 8:29 pm

Did you even look at the link I gave?
65 instances where people were killed or wounded. One of those was the Ariane Grande where 22? were killed.

There is no need to look at the link. They’re almost always loon sites. Even so, I took your stats at your word. 65 people over 23 years doesn’t represent a civil war, you overblown, hyperbolic asshat.

You can go and count them up in the Link I gave.

No.

And yes, the Thames was bloodied by one of the attacks on the bridge.

And if it had been one of your kids at the concert, I bet you wouldn’t be so smarmy and dismissive.

Oh, we’re personalizing it now, just like leftwing morons do. Great argument. Tell us, Iodine Betty, you claim to be a gun owner. Should I use that very same argument against you every time there’s a mass shooting in the US?

What if your kids were shot down in cold blood at that school or mall? And you own a gun? Monster!

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 8:30 pm

JC

Mar 12, 2024 7:30 PM
Turtlehhead, you only think I live in “stratified heights” because you’re a former nurse.

No, I think that because you continually post details of your lifestyle. Tell us how many famous people you see when you dine in NY?
How about the exclusive beaches you sun yourself on in Spain?

But here’s the question I want you to ask yourself – what if your daughter came home to your NY apartment and told you she had enrolled to be a nurse? What would you say to her?

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 8:32 pm

Dinner time here in God’s own country north of the Tweed.

I’ll check back on the discussion tomorrow, D.v.

Rosie
Rosie
March 12, 2024 8:32 pm

I agree Roger.
Horrific as islamic terrorism is, in the UK, it’s not quite Rivers of Blood.
It’s interesting that the French who’ve also had their share of Islamic slaughter have been far more forceful in dealing with it than the timid, tiptoeing Poms.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 12, 2024 8:32 pm

The Channel 9/Muderis defamation case is not pleasant.
The mechanics of osseointegration is not pretty.

Muderis and his team have meticulous notes, digitally time stamped, showing that he delivered on what he said he would.
And he has a terrible bedside manner.

Every one of the former patients who have been called by team Muderis last week & this week are tragedies.
Amputees, many with other substantial injuries (burns, other broken bones), most with depression.
Some of the communications (emails, text, fb posts) amongst themselves have been outrageous.
And I feel sorry for them as their lives have gone off the rails.

It seems like Muderis pitched his work to people who would have had trouble doing the required re-hab based on their previous re-hab work.
At the same time, some of these patients are blaming Muderis for either their own terrible re-hab or poor after care from their local health providers.

Bottom line, it looks like Channel 9 preyed upon some very vulnerable people.
Another real question is who should be considered for osseointegration & that’s regulatory type situation.
Some people are not suited.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 8:34 pm

J.C:
JC

Mar 12, 2024 7:49 PM
Disagree as you will, but history shows that when peoples backs are against the wall, they are capable of all sorts of atrocities.

You said there have been 65 murders and woundings since 2001. Most of those, I would guess, occurred in the 10’s such as the bus explosion incident. Where is this river of filled with blood, Iodine?

You refuse to read the list I found.
Pathetic.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 12, 2024 8:37 pm

It’s been well established that Muderis has had a lot of successful osseointegration procedures.
Mainly with younger people, with ready access to metro health care to deal with infections, with not a lot of other factors (recovering from burns & other injuries).

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 8:37 pm

No, I think that because you continually post details of your lifestyle.

I post very little about my “lifestyle”.

Tell us how many famous people you see when you dine in NY?

I’ve not once mentioned I’ve dined with famous people. I most certainly have said that I’ve seen famous people because it’s true, I have. Just like most people that live in NYC have.

You could cite where I’ve made such a comment, but you can’t because it doesn’t exist.

How about the exclusive beaches you sun yourself on in Spain?

I’ve never been to Spain, you moron, and I’ve never said I have.

But here’s the question I want you to ask yourself – what if your daughter came home to your NY apartment and told you she had enrolled to be a nurse? What would you say to her?

My daughter? it’s a great profession… for a female.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 12, 2024 8:38 pm

Rita Panahi

Never stand between a socialist and a big fat pile of someone else’s money.

And, when that pile of money is taxpayer funds then you can be sure that the most radical, hard left crusader will suddenly find a taste for the finer things in life.

Greens leader Adam Bandt might rail against capitalism but he sure loves private jets and luxury cars, as long as someone else is picking up the bill.

The global warming crusader who wants to get rid of fossil fuels including a ban on all new coal, oil and gas projects managed to rack up an annual expense bill for 2022 of more than $960,000.

As reported in the Herald Sun on Tuesday, that extravagant amount does not include Bandt’s $300,000-plus salary or the wages of his personal staff.

Bandt’s annual expenses bill of almost $1m included government COMCAR trips, taxis, a government provided private vehicle, domestic flights and even a couple of private jet charters.

You’d think the main transport favoured by a party that pushes the most extreme climate policies would be public transport, not private cars and jets, but I must’ve missed the myki card expense report.

It remains unclear why Bandt thought it appropriate to spend more than $15,000 of our hard earned on a private plane between Canberra and Brisbane to attend a Greens event when there are multiple airlines flying between those two destinations regularly.

Indeed, you can travel that route for as little as $240 with Virgin Australia, $273 with Jetstar and $340 with Qantas.

So, why should taxpayers be expected to stump up $15,000 for a neo-Marxist to attend the election campaign launch for the Greens.

A Greens spokesman defended Bandt’s spend-a-thon saying: “As the leader of the third-largest political party in Australia you would expect Mr Bandt would engage in extensive travel and unlike the Prime Minister and many ministers he doesn’t have access to government VIP flights … all Mr Bandt’s travel is within entitlements.”

You know what else was within entitlements?

Bronwyn Bishop’s $5000 helicopter flight was also “within entitlements” but that didn’t mean it passed the pub test.

And despite apologising and then covering the cost, Bishop was still forced to step down as speaker of the house.

Don’t expect such accountability from the Greens leader.

Herald-Sun

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 8:38 pm

You refuse to read the list I found.
Pathetic.

You told us the stat, 65 killed or wounded since 2001. You’re pathetic and so are your links.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2024 8:47 pm

Islamic terrorism doesn’t only have direct victims.
After 9/11 airline cockpit doors have been locked. This has resulted in hundreds of airline passenger deaths when flight crews were incapacitated or malicious.
See German Wings, Helios Air and maybe MH 370.
The bastards have seriously degraded our quality of life with all the security measures we are now taking against them.
I particularly hate getting on an airliner where the airport security is run by the bastards.
I also hate how small country aerodromes have been turned into something resembling Stalag Luft 17.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 12, 2024 8:49 pm

Rudyard Kipling described Islam perfectly.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 8:53 pm

What you should be arguing, is something like this, turtlehead.

In order to have Muslim immigration, you also require an outsized domestic intel and policing operation to try and thwart any potential terror attacks. It also means that domestic freedoms have to be curtailed. Lastly, the welfare of minority groups will be threatened.

That’s the sort of argument you should be making instead of pretending there is or predicting a UK civil war, or even one here. But you’re just a hyperbolic imbecile who every day makes strides to act as the site’s Faulty.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 8:56 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 8:38 PM

Stoush Nurse warming up for the Night Shift.

Muddy
Muddy
March 12, 2024 9:00 pm

Eyrie
Mar 12, 2024 8:47 PM

Islamic terrorism doesn’t only have direct victims.

Correct.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 12, 2024 9:02 pm

Roger thats starting to sound like tits shortwilly. What was it he said? “I don’t know what she said but I agree with it”.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 9:09 pm

Johnny Rotten
Mar 12, 2024 8:56 PM

JC
Mar 12, 2024 8:38 PM

Stoush Nurse warming up for the Night Shift.

Dunno Wodney, depends if you’re taking the Porsche Miata for a spin this evening.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
March 12, 2024 9:11 pm

I post very little about my “lifestyle”.

😕

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 9:17 pm

JC:

You refuse to read the list I found.
Pathetic.

It’s probably because your ego won’t allow you to do so. Heavens you just may have to regard me as being right. That would be traumatic for you wouldn’t it?
So I’ve done it for you:
There are 124 dead.
This doesn’t count the wounded who were saved by the bystanders and medics. It also doesn’t count the Irish and Scottish dead/wounded.
Wounded 1028.
61 Attacks.
The link again.
Sneer at those, you cretin.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 9:18 pm

These days he appears to be posting very little about owning a pub.

🙂

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 9:20 pm

Roger

Mar 12, 2024 7:39 PM
Foxbody is correct – ‘rivers of blood’ was a classical reference.

That may be so, but it doesn’t stop the phrase from being repurposed. That is one of the strengths of the English language.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 9:24 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 8:29 PM

Did you even look at the link I gave?

65 instances where people were killed or wounded. One of those was the Ariane Grande where 22? were killed.

There is no need to look at the link. They’re almost always loon sites. Even so, I took your stats at your word. 65 people over 23 years doesn’t represent a civil war, you overblown, hyperbolic asshat.

You can go and count them up in the Link I gave.

No.
Then I’ll take that as a white flag from you, dickhead.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 9:26 pm

Monty – Truth is always the minority position. It’s why Christians understand what the bible teaches about the remnant, the minority report if you like. As Einstein said to the 100 authors against him that if he was wrong it would take only one of them to demonstrate that. None did. I can’t help but notice that you have failed completely to demonstrate that any policies we discuss or advocate are wrong. That’s because we are correct, on the bases of science, logic and economics, and you are not.

What a load of cobblers, Bruce. Kierkegaard is not dispositive evidence.

I have said multiple time times already that you are not wrong on the basic science. Nukes exists, nuke power plants exist, sure.

What you are dead wrong on is the economics and the politics. You lot continue to deny the reality of the economics of solar PV which have obsoleted nukes as a power source, for the vast majority of practical purposes. Some places have existing nuke infrastructure which it makes some sense to keep exploiting, but most of those have long since abandoned nukes for solar and wind.

If you watched Ted O’Brien get slaughtered on 7:30 tonight, you might understand how the politics are completely against what Dutton is trying to do. The entire party is flailing about, looking more and more foolish. He is prancing into a minefield.

It is amazingly stupid politics on all but one level: it is a distraction from any real electoral issues, to allow him to posture to gormless idiots like you that he is on your side against the world. Dutton doesn’t want to engage with any of the Carcetti-style bowls of shit sitting in front of him, so he sets loose this squirrel and gets his media mates to focus their cameras on it instead of figuring out how he is going to win back Teal seats or somehow win a satellite suburban Labor stronghold seat before 2040.

Most minorities are in the wrong, in both hard and soft sciences. Humanity in totality is not stupid, even if individuals like you are. You are most definitely wrong on this one.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 9:30 pm

No he wasn’t. All you can say here is that he feared the wrong immigrant.

Well, that’s okay then.

I’d only be ‘mindreading’ him if I wasn’t reading his statements and was unfamiliar with his work.

What was the initial criticism that he’s a lib-right all about. If you’re aware of his opinions you obviously are also aware of his thoughts on immigration.

I haven’t meandered off, quarantine here simply means he wants to protect his criticisms of immigration from associations with Powell.

How so, if he’s critical of UK immigration policy? You argument makes little sense. He believes Powell’s speech was wrongheaded for the time and did great damage to the conservative side. You’re now mind reading and implying his arguments are totally misplaced because he’s critical of Powell.

Criticizing Muslim immigration as a right-lib is not courageous.

Who suggested it was? He makes thoroughly good arguments on the subject.

Sure, but that doesn’t mean I haven’t provided them.

I disagree again.

Setting aside Rotherham, etc. my inclination is rather that civil war is very unlikely because most Anglophone countries are filled with ‘last men’.

“last men”, means what?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 12, 2024 9:30 pm

What you are dead wrong on is the economics

Said the admitted entry-level economics failure.

Most minorities are in the wrong, in both hard and soft sciences

Like the Greens?

Thought so.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 9:31 pm

And that’s enough for me for tonight.
Having just bought a digital copy of “Alas Babylon” I will go and read it.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
March 12, 2024 9:33 pm

These days he appears to be posting very little about owning a pub.

You want more pub posting? Sure, glad to help. Lizzie, Rosie, JC, Vicki, Calli et al post come daily life goings on, I can round that out a bit with some pub life vignettes.

Stand by.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 9:34 pm

Then I’ll take that as a white flag from you, dickhead.

Is that like wearing a cute little white outfit with a cute little hat?

You hyperbolic imbecile.

John Brumble
John Brumble
March 12, 2024 9:36 pm

So. Vicki..

Your energy issues had nothing at all to do with the meter in the same way that they had nothing to do with chemtrails, 5G or alien pyramid builders.

Correct?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
March 12, 2024 9:37 pm

Is that like wearing a cute little white outfit with a cute little hat?

For the information of those who just tuned in, this comment is not to be taken as sneering at or denigrating someone’s occupation.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 9:38 pm

Driller

You were basically shut down from posting your own bullshit lifestyle

the incessant pubbling
The cowboying/croc dudneeing
The outbacking
the boundary-riding
The pub ownership bullshit
The big boss routine
Receiving apologies from the ATO numerous times.
I could go on. Now piss off and stop trying to start another stoush, you fraud.

Have the last say

Go!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
March 12, 2024 9:40 pm

You were basically shut down

Never happened.

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 9:41 pm

Rosie
Mar 12, 2024 8:26 PM
horse dewormer ONLY, and NOT to be used for Covid?

Fitzsimons couldn’t get that right either, it’s prescribed for humans for a number of parasitical infections, that’s why it’s a miracle drug and Merck who manufactures it for human use, said they didn’t think it was effective against covid.

This is what I expected to see during the initial covid lockdown, that medical professionals would look at a whole plethora of medications to see if they could work against covid while we waited for a vaccine.

What we got was almost a ban on this practice of medical experimentation and even medications we knew worked on almost any flu were strongly discouraged. I will never forgive ScoMo or Gladys for what was done to us, they practically told us everything we knew was wrong and only their CMOs were right yet they never showed their work.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
March 12, 2024 9:44 pm

Saw that Ivermectin carrying on at Twitter by Fitzsimian, he’s clearly got zero self-awareness.
Dickhead does not begin to adequately describe him.

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 9:49 pm

Setting aside Rotherham, etc. my inclination is rather that civil war is very unlikely because most Anglophone countries are filled with ‘last men’.

Who or what are ‘last men’? I have never heard of that term.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 9:49 pm

Pete blows up the Liars.

You go girl.

Local regional industries could receive cheaper subsidised power under Coalition’s nuclear plan

The Coalition’s nuclear energy plan will offer incentive packages for communities, including potential subsidised electricity prices for local industries, upgraded community infrastructure, and transition packages for workers to higher-paid jobs.

The Australian can reveal that Peter Dutton is considering a range of options for community incentives based on similar models in the UK, US and Canada.

It comes as Australia’s former nuclear science regulator under both Labor and Coalition governments said a domestic nuclear energy industry in Australia was the only option if the country wanted a reliable and low-cost energy source with zero emissions.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 9:51 pm

Like the Greens?

Greens are frequently wrong on a great many things. Their command of detail is supremely shouse. Comes from never having been in government, they haven’t ever had to be responsible or pragmatic.

They have the general idea right… like you on nukes. Also like you, they fail miserably at the slightest bit of scrutiny of cockamamie policy wishcasting.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 9:58 pm

The Coalition’s nuclear energy plan will offer incentive packages for communities, including potential subsidised electricity prices for local industries, upgraded community infrastructure, and transition packages for workers to higher-paid jobs.

Um, isn’t that just a photocopy of the Renewable Energy Zone thing that Gez was complaining about?

They should call it the NuP for short. Or the Split-Atom Energy Nuke Zone: Split-ENZ.

What a balls up of a policy from start to finish.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 12, 2024 9:58 pm

Renewables have to have storage as they are only dispatchable for 30% of the time and that is an average of not a stat for every unit and that is regionally weather dependant.
The battery component to create a grid that could be 85% renewable is uncosted in the ISP except for pumped hydro in Snowy 2.0.
Battery storage and an endless transmission build is a cost that Bowen and AEMO cannot admit to as it destroys the cheap claim.
Solar, wind and batteries degrade at an increasing rate as the asset ages.
Efficiency falls off, unlike base load hydrocarbons or nuclear.
You can’t pop an economic advantage to solar without costing the structural necessities that are a new and ongoing spend unlike nuclear positioned on existing coal sites and using the existing grid.
Every connection from a renewable project needs a 100 million spent to convert the DC to AC and hook it into a compatible transmission line.
You could not get finance from a bank for such a business model and that’s the reason eye watering subsidies and guaranteed returns have to be provided by government otherwise it’s unviable.
The public fund nearly all of the infrastructure for corporates to exploit. That’s why Twiggy is so very very keen.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2024 9:59 pm

I haven’t read Heffer, but if he agrees with me he’s obviously a good man!

Heffer’s four volume history of Great Britain, from the making of the Victorian Age, to World War Two – “High Minds,” “The Age of Decadence”, “Staring At God” and “Sing As We Go” are interesting and educational reading. Highly recommended.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
March 12, 2024 10:02 pm

The big loads – i.e. the stuff you see on those ‘Heavy lift truckers’ type shows, happen in the dead of night.
One of the minor benefits of pub life is you’re about when everybody else is asleep.

One of the major obstacles for big loads is which towns will they even fit through? And where can they cross rivers?

Big loads usually go past at or just after closing time. Often you can tell they’re coming, as in the middle of the afternoon witches hats are placed all along the street, to stop anybody parallel parking.
This is because if the road is blocked, a big load cannot get along the street.

This means a really wide load is coming through early in the morning.

Sometimes they’re so large they have to follow a special route, i.e. they don’t stick to their side of the road, but will cross & go up the wrong side of the street.

This brings them past the front of the pub so close you can touch them.

It’s a pleasant change to the groundhog day routine of pub life, & a real “gee whiz” moment just to see the heavy lift truck & even more the load.

These are the sort of special moments that make pub life unique.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 10:03 pm

Fatboy

The only thing you’ve argued is that intermittent sources such as propellers on sticks are plastic panels offers cheaper energy than nuclear.

While ignoring the eventual introduction of modular factory made reactors which will produce very cheap energy, let’s say that won’t happen.

The fact is that people will accept higher cost energy as long as we know that when you turn on a switch the light will go on and we don;’t have to worry if it wasn’t a sunny or windy day. Also, the entire planet would be littered with that crap. Now STFU and get back in the basement as lockdown rules still apply to you.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 10:03 pm

You lot continue to deny the reality of the economics of solar PV which have obsoleted nukes as a power source, for the vast majority of practical purposes.

If mUnturd thinks that electric trains (to take a simple example) can be run on solar PV, he is more deluded than even I thought.

Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 10:06 pm

Matt Wallace
@MattWallace888

BREAKING NEWS: Andrew Tate and Tristian Tate WERE JUST ARRESTED AGAIN

This arrest is much more sinister and disturbing though than the last one. The details of what just happened may make you 1776 levels of angry.

This was not the doing of some random officials in a small country. Disgustingly, one of the most powerful governments in the world is actually behind it. UK authorities reached their authoritarian arm over 1000 miles away and commanded their arrests in Romania.

Surely they must have just done something really bad to deserve an arrest warrant from the United Kingdom, right? NOPE! They were ripped from their home by men with guns over BS allegations from an entire f*cking decade ago.

The charges are related to allegations of “sexual aggression” (whatever tf that means) in a U.K. case dating back to 2012 through 2015. Not recent. Not substantiated. On the contrary, the Tate brothers have shown overwhelming evidence the accusations against them are false. Yet here we are with them having to spend even more time behind bars, after already being held unjustly for months by Romanian authorities who couldn’t even pinpoint legitimate charges against them despite trying very hard.

Make no mistake… this is not justice or even the pursuit of it. This is further punishment by the global elites for daring to challenge them. Soon freedom will be dead across the globe if the evil people behind these horrendous misuses of the legal system are not stopped!

Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 10:10 pm
Salvatore, Iron Publican
March 12, 2024 10:12 pm

A really big heavy load went past the pub a couple of nights ago, just after closing time.

It had to come down the wrong side of the street it was so wide. The advance party had not cleared the street & I was parked in front of the pub.

The really big wide high load came creeping up the street, like a gigantic Tiger Tank (a type of panzer). It went so close to my ute I thought it was going to strike the rear & do lotsa damage – to the ute.

Phew, it missed, thank God truckies know what they’re doing. The truckie gave a look that said “Mate, there was at least a whole inch of clearance, you didn’t have to worry” before getting back to watching the road.

Truckies, carrying Australia & doing it with spatial awareness to match that of a farmhand.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 10:15 pm

While ignoring the eventual introduction of modular factory made reactors which will produce very cheap energy, let’s say that won’t happen.

Okay. They won’t happen.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 10:17 pm

Sally, stop talking about your big loads. It’s not that kind of blog. Keep it for your OF.

KevinM
KevinM
March 12, 2024 10:28 pm

Last man

The last man is a term used by the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche in Thus Spoke Zarathustra to describe the antithesis of his theorized superior being, the Übermensch, whose imminent appearance is heralded by Zarathustra. The last man is the archetypal passive nihilist. He is tired of life, takes no risks, and seeks only comfort and security.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2024 10:30 pm

Truckies, carrying Australia & doing it with spatial awareness to match that of a farmhand.

Wheat carting, way back when – the “code of the bush” was that, an empty truck returning from the wheat bin, would pull off the road, and give way to a loaded truck, heading to the bin.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
March 12, 2024 10:36 pm

“Empty gives way to loaded” = the rule of the road.

cohenite
March 12, 2024 10:36 pm

You lot continue to deny the reality of the economics of solar PV which have obsoleted nukes as a power source, for the vast majority of practical purposes.

You’re a fuking moron dickless. Solar and wind don’t have economics because they’re weather dependent. Anyway there have been 2 excellent posts, one by me, about the stupidity of levelised costing as a means of comparing W&S with any other energy source. In fact any comparison is stupid because W&S can’t run a grid.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2024 10:39 pm

Candace Warner speaking …”

There’s the problem right there. SBW knew what was required back in the day.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2024 10:43 pm

A classic “You lot” post. Guess we can add grid scale electricity generation to the list.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 10:44 pm

No time to write about it now, but the Lazard LCOE study that appears to be the final word on nuclear generation is a massive technical and analytical disgrace. Methodology condemned within the report itself.

Safe to assume that Lazard has a significant commercial linkage to renewables.

Translation: Dr Faustus found some random rant on a message board somewhere that totally disproves a comprehensive study by domain experts at one of the world’s premier investment advisor firms.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 10:48 pm

I said he wants to be critical of current British immigration policy but doesn’t want his criticisms of it to be mistakenly associated with Powell’s previous criticisms, even though, his, like Powell’s, involve criticism of the cultural character of certain British immigrants. This isn’t mindreading.

Are you kidding, it’s hyper mind-reading. You haven’t seen the podcast, don’t know what the entirety of his comments but you can read his motivation for saying what he did.

Someone that will not put at risk their Netflix sub, access to Doordash, and the like, for any real or imagined injustice.

I can understand the Doordash argument, but how does Netflix come in it? You realize Netflix is a streaming service and doesn’t require any form of physical delivery, right?

custard
custard
March 12, 2024 10:53 pm
Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 10:53 pm

Thank you for the ‘last men’ explanations.

Rosie
Rosie
March 12, 2024 10:59 pm

Translation, Dr Faustus works in the field of energy delivery and knows what he’s talking about and Monty just parrots what he reads on greenie websites.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 11:01 pm

Those chuntering about LCOE should probably read pp361-2 of the latest World Nuclear Report, prepared by the industry itself.

Cost graphs haven’t improved for nukes. They keep getting worse. It’s a lost cause.

KevinM
KevinM
March 12, 2024 11:03 pm

Winston Smith Avatar
Winston Smith
Mar 12, 2024 9:31 PM

And that’s enough for me for tonight.
Having just bought a digital copy of “Alas Babylon” I will go and read it.

Winston, I’m not trying to be cheap or pirate books but a lot of them are out of copyright and buying them benefits only the distributor, like Amazon.

Before you buy, it’s worth looking at sites like Internet Archive, where you can download them free.

MatrixTransform
March 12, 2024 11:16 pm

Translation: Dr Faustus found some random rant on a message board somewhere that …

translation: translation:

mUnty (in a random rant on a message board)
doesnt know that LCOE is a retarded crock of shit which presupposes that the utility from solar is the same as the utility form nuclear

let’s turn off the nuclear every night and let solar take the load shall we?

John H.
John H.
March 12, 2024 11:24 pm

KevinM
Mar 12, 2024 11:03 PM
Winston Smith Avatar
Winston Smith
Mar 12, 2024 9:31 PM

And that’s enough for me for tonight.
Having just bought a digital copy of “Alas Babylon” I will go and read it.

Winston, I’m not trying to be cheap or pirate books but a lot of them are out of copyright and buying them benefits only the distributor, like Amazon.

Before you buy, it’s worth looking at sites like Internet Archive, where you can download them free.

Thanks Kevin, a very useful resource.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 11:29 pm

Yes, yes I can.

Exactly. That’s my point.

Are you for real?

That Netflix is a streaming service and not physically delivered? Yeah -:)

But I do like how you’re assuming it’s just laziness and a slovenly attitude rather than people simply not being worried about it as much as you are.

MatrixTransform
March 12, 2024 11:31 pm

Renewables have to have storage as they are only dispatchable for 30% … etc

and the doubling of infrastructure and support overspend are not part of any LCOE calculation

like the interconnector they want to blast through your farmland

mUnty should stick to fantasy football

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 11:40 pm

Fatboy, this isn’t a report prepared by the industry. It’s an astroturf organization.

One of the the lead authors.

Antony Froggatt joined Chatham House in 2007 and is a senior research fellow in the Energy, Environment and Resources department.

He studied energy and environmental policy at the University of Westminster and the Science Policy Research Unit at Sussex University, and is currently an honorary research fellow at Exeter University.

At Chatham House he specializes in global energy security and European electricity policy. He has worked as an independent consultant for 15 years with environmental groups, academics and public bodies in Europe and Asia. He has also worked as a freelance journalist. In 1992 he co-authored the World Nuclear Industry Status Report, a now annual independent review of the nuclear sector.

Faggot works for environmental groups? Who are they exactly? Any guesses?

Muddy
Muddy
March 12, 2024 11:56 pm

KevinM
Mar 12, 2024 10:28 PM

Interesting. Thanks.

I’ve heard of the concept but had to research it:

nihilism /n???-l?z??m, n??-/
noun
The doctrine that nothing actually exists or that existence or values are meaningless. Relentless negativity or cynicism suggesting an absence of values or beliefs.
“nihilism in postwar art.”
Political belief or action that advocates or commits violence or terrorism without discernible constructive goals.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition •

MatrixTransform
March 12, 2024 11:57 pm

No one who has had a kidney stone would be making jokes about them

bartender says to the kidney stone, “What’ll you have?”

the kidney stone says, “Nothing thanks, I’m just passing through

JC
JC
March 13, 2024 12:00 am

You dishonest, fat retard, Fatboy. That’s no “industry report”. It’s Wiki page spells out exactly what it’s all about and who are the people behind that dishonest bullshit.

World Nuclear Industry Status Report

The World Nuclear Industry Status Report is a yearly report on the nuclear power industry. It is produced by Mycle Schneider, an anti-nuclear activist and a founding member of WISE-Paris, which he directed from 1983 to 2003.[1][2]

Who is WISE -Paris.

The World Information Service on Energy (WISE) is an anti-nuclear group founded in 1978 to be an information and networking center for citizens and organizations concerned about nuclear power, radioactive waste, radiation and sustainable energy issues. The organization advocates the implementation of safe, sustainable solutions such as energy efficiency and renewable energy.

Since 2001, the WISE has been affiliated with the Nuclear Information and Resource Service (NIRS).[1]

It’s times like this when I think Turtlehead’s frequent comments about executions are warranted.
You tried to put one over us by referring to this astroturf operation as a report from the industry itself. You dishonest, donut munching turd Fatboy.

Rosie
Rosie
March 13, 2024 12:00 am

Indian nationals are paying immigration agents between €6000 and €7000 to get into Malta for eventual PR.
Don’t know if Malta is a steeping stone to continental Europe or living in Malta is the dream.
Definitely quite a few here.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 13, 2024 12:13 am

No time to write about it now, but the Lazard LCOE study that appears to be the final word on nuclear generation is a massive technical and analytical disgrace. Methodology condemned within the report itself.

Safe to assume that Lazard has a significant commercial linkage to renewables.

Translation: Dr Faustus found some random rant on a message board somewhere that totally disproves a comprehensive study by domain experts at one of the world’s premier investment advisor firms.

Not so much nutter message boards, I was more relying on the “comprehensive study by domain experts at one of the world’s premier investment advisor firms“.

Lazards’ entire analysis is based on a single US nuclear generation project, the disastrous Vogtle Nuclear Power Plant:

Given the limited public and/or observable data set available for new-build geothermal, coal and nuclear projects, and the emerging range of new nuclear generation strategies, the LCOE presented herein represents Lazard’s LCOE v15.0 results adjusted for inflation and, for nuclear, are based on then-estimated costs of the Vogtle Plant and are U.S.-focused.

Votgle 3 and 4 were ocean-going design and construction cockups that put Westinghouse into Chapter 11 protection. The costs to complete units 3 and 4 are now approaching US$40 billion for 2200MWe capacity – approaching twice the cost of the UAE Barakah project (mentioned above) for 5500MWe.

So, a single unrepresentative data – from the same scare school as ‘all nuclear power stations spew radiation like Chernobyl’.

Leaving that aside, the Lazard LCOE study treats renewables on the same basis as dispatchable nuclear, coal and gas. No battery backup needed, 25% to 30% average availability is lined up with 90%+.

Realising that that is obvious bullshit, Lazard also includes an estimate of the additional costs of providing ‘firming’ – a term that usually implies that renewables become dispatchable and directly comparable with coal, gas, nuclear etc. The study assumes gas backup for some Power Authorities – and heroic assumptions for clean green California:

For the PV + Storage cases in CAISO and PJM, assumed Storage configuration is 50% of PV MW and 4 hour duration.

Under these ‘firmed’ conditions, the unsubsidized LCOE of the ‘too cheap to meter’ utility scale PV is US$117/MWh to US$142/MWh – which seems to compare very favourably with naughty nuclear at around US$180/MWh.

Except, again, the storage costed into the LCOE is for 4 hours at 50% of whatever Solar capacity is assumed. So, the firming component of the LCOE is underdone by about 200% – and tough shit trying to charge your Tesla after about 8:30 at night.

It’s dishonest bullshit lapped up greedily by Solar Spruikers like Energy Sage – and repeated by our very own politicians and their winged monkeys.

And which duly makes its way into the lofty, official-sounding (but actually a product of Mycle Schneider, an anti-nuclear activist who has been adviser to Green members of the European Parliament on energy issues for more than twenty years.)The World Nuclear Industry Status Report 2023:

Aside from natural gas peaking plants at discount rates of less than 5.4 percent, Lazard’s estimates indicate that nuclear is always the most expensive resource on an LCOE basis.

Which is, of course, in itself, a true statement.

So, safe to say that domain experts at one of the world’s premier investment advisor firms have a significant commercial linkage to renewables.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 13, 2024 8:09 am

m0nty
Mar 12, 2024 10:44 PM

No time to write about it now, but the Lazard LCOE study that appears to be the final word on nuclear generation is a massive technical and analytical disgrace. Methodology condemned within the report itself.

Safe to assume that Lazard has a significant commercial linkage to renewables.

Translation: Dr Faustus found some random rant on a message board somewhere that totally disproves a comprehensive study by domain experts at one of the world’s premier investment advisor firms.

Translation: Having failed Economics 1, mUnturd is in no position to refute what Dr F has said, so will resort to ad hom abuse as a substitute for intelligent argument.

Winston Smith
March 13, 2024 9:54 am

Crossie

Mar 12, 2024 9:41 PM
Fitzsimons couldn’t get that right either, it’s prescribed for humans for a number of parasitical infections, that’s why it’s a miracle drug and Merck who manufactures it for human use, said they didn’t think it was effective against covid.
This is what I expected to see during the initial covid lockdown, that medical professionals would look at a whole plethora of medications to see if they could work against covid while we waited for a vaccine.

What we got was almost a ban on this practice of medical experimentation and even medications we knew worked on almost any flu were strongly discouraged. I will never forgive ScoMo or Gladys for what was done to us, they practically told us everything we knew was wrong and only their CMOs were right yet they never showed their work.
I was testing out my local GP over the Ivermectin issue and said to him that I was going to Namibia for a holiday. Could I get prophylactic Ivermectin for River Blindness?
Ha ha. Good try. How are you going to get there? Without a vaccination, you can’t leave Australia!
Drat. 🙂

Winston Smith
March 13, 2024 10:09 am

KevinM:

Winston, I’m not trying to be cheap or pirate books but a lot of them are out of copyright and buying them benefits only the distributor, like Amazon.
Before you buy, it’s worth looking at sites like Internet Archive, where you can download them free.

Fairenuff.
I keep forgetting that sort of stuff – I prefer to have all my books in one bin, so to speak. It’s the only reason I buy them on Kindle. I still have a hard copy, but the eyes aren’t as good as they used to be…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 13, 2024 10:55 am

March 13th – Seventy years since the Viet Minh attack, on the French Union garrison, at Dien Bien Phu began, and the French empire in Indo China began going into liquidation…paving the way for the American intervention…

  1. Seriously; they’re supposed to just sit there and take it, like they’re supposed to with Hamas and Hezbollah?

  2. For example, where a firebrand Muslim cleric has dual citizenship, revoke his Australian citizenship and deport him. A problem dealt…

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