Open Thread – Labour Day 2024


Sailors yarning, the midday rest, Henry Scott Tuke, late 19th/early 20th C.

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 12, 2024 8:26 am

The dead rising hip hop star should’ve been an aspiring footy player instead. Might have been alive had he not been neglected by pisswreck family that can’t look after themselves little thelr own children. If they only had a Voice or billions thrown at them. That’ll solve the problem of no responsibility.

shatterzzz
March 12, 2024 8:27 am


Knuckle Dragger
Mar 12, 2024 7:56 AM
This is a pix of a genuine receipt from a DARWIN beachside cafe, last Sunday .. FFS!

I’ve no idea … I copied it and where/when from another blog ..the, original, poster there was lamenting the fact he/she never checked the menu pricing before ordering …

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 8:28 am

Tintarella di Luna

Message received.

The quack has echoed, repeat the quack has echoed, go to position magneta and look for the short Dutchman in an overcoat and deliver the package.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 12, 2024 8:29 am

Fifteen-year-old Kailab, as the court heard his family wanted him known, was one of five young people travelling in a stolen car when it crashed near Manton Dam in July 2022.

The teenager was not driving at the time and his body was found 35 metres from the car.

Also relevant is what’s unsaid in this piece.

They were ‘travelling’. A more accurate term is that they were fanging at tremendous speed back to D-Town (where they’d stolen the car) from Adelaide River, where they’d just committed an armed robbery on the servo and trashed the joint.

Somehow, two of the stolen car’s occupants were relatively uninjured after driving the thing into the scrub, ejecting the remainder of the passengers. Those two ambushed the first car that stopped to render assistance, intending to carjack them.

The Good Samaritans were able to fight them off and drive away, meaning the remaining scrotes almost certainly condemned their very good friend and aspiring rapper to death – if he wasn’t already.

The obvious answer h/t Dot, is a community garden.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 8:29 am

I want to pay tribute to the Orange man, who has a godlike ability to expose his enemies as jibbering troglodites who can’t hear what he’s saying because they’re foaming with rage about his popularity with normal people.

Tom – I thought Ramirez’s one today was fun. He’s complaining that the GOP are RINOs while at the same time being completely deranged about the MAGA wing of the party. There isn’t anyone else, it’s one or the other.

shatterzzz
March 12, 2024 8:34 am

What makes me so angry is that, while none of us know what he was really like, everyone is lying through their teeth about his lousy life.

Alwayz the same when it comes to eulogies ain’t it? .. no matter your level of ar**holery once your gone you was a sweet child, so much potential, wouldn’t hurt a fly, wonderful Daddy/Mummy and will be sorely missed …..
And if your a 251 you getz the free publicity from the media for the applause …….

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 8:34 am

ABCcess Analcysts.
Because its not analysis by any means.

Why petrol is making a temporary comeback in the battle with EVs

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 12, 2024 8:37 am

Aaaaand Elbow just announced $4 billion – that’s $4,000,000,000 of tax dollareydoos – for free indig housing throughout the NT.

This is not helpful.

Black Ball
Black Ball
March 12, 2024 8:41 am

Crocodile Man lives in Victoria too. Matt Johnston in the Hun:

A $157m project to fix a deadly highway in Victoria’s west that is already four years late faces fresh delays and cost blowouts amid a stalled Aboriginal heritage assessment.

Sixteen years after planning started on the Western Highway duplication between Ararat and Buangor, heritage experts and archaeologists are excavating land along the latest proposed route to check for items of cultural significance.

And figures involved in the process fear the project will hit a dead end due to activists exploiting findings to prevent it from progressing – despite the fact there have been 160 car crashes and 18 deaths along the highway in the past decade.

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The duplication of the Western Highway between Ararat and Buangor is facing fresh delays and cost blowouts, with activists accused of exploiting findings to prevent it from progressing.

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A $157m project to fix a deadly highway in Victoria’s west that is already four years late faces fresh delays and cost blowouts amid a stalled Aboriginal heritage assessment.

Sixteen years after planning started on the Western Highway duplication between Ararat and Buangor, heritage experts and archaeologists are excavating land along the latest proposed route to check for items of cultural significance.

And figures involved in the process fear the project will hit a dead end due to activists exploiting findings to prevent it from progressing – despite the fact there have been 160 car crashes and 18 deaths along the highway in the past decade.

The assessment, part of a Cultural Heritage Management Plan, was ordered nearly three years ago in April 2021, after protesters blockaded duplication works and went to court to argue the route cut through sensitive land.

The legal dispute was sparked by claims in 2017 that the project require the destruction of two “birthing” gum trees, where some First Nations groups said ancestors came to have children.

A new route was then proposed, leading to the current heritage review, which is at the “complex assessment” stage and which one Aboriginal figure said could uncover further issues and trigger more protests.

The $157m Ararat to Buangor duplication is part of a $656m Western Hwy upgrade between Ballarat and Stawell, which is funded by State and Commonwealth governments.

Last year, the Albanese Government provided an extra $100m to the overall project due to cost blowouts, which include the requirement that security remain on the Buangor site.

Major Road Projects Victoria, the Allan Government agency in charge of the build, has refused to reveal what it expects the project to cost after years of delays.

In 2020, the state Ombudsman investigated the saga, finding parties involved in the planning appeared to have acted in “good faith” but recognising that this would “not satisfy those for whom every tree and contour on Country must be preserved”.

The Ombudsman’s report also noted that planning for the Western Hwy duplication began in 2008, and an initial Cultural Heritage Management Plan (CHMP) was completed between 2011 and 2013.

The “Registered Aboriginal Party” in the area that was in charge of that process, Martang, did not recognise the claims of birthing trees.

The fresh CHMP will be evaluated by a different Aboriginal group called the Eastern Maar Aboriginal Corporation.

Eastern Maar’s general manager of cultural landscapes, John Clarke, said the group had yet to receive reports from heritage advisers hired by the project.

“With the draft CHMP only being at the Complex Assessment stage, EMAC (Eastern Maar Aboriginal Corporation) is not in an informed position about any cultural heritage value that may or may not exist,” he said.

“EMAC can only consider next appropriate steps when the final draft of the CHMP is submitted for evaluation.”

When asked whether a finalised plan would enable the road project to get back on track, Mr Clarke said: “We cannot pre-empt any decisions until the final drafted CHMP has been submitted for evaluation.”

A Major Road Projects Victoria spokesperson said the agency was “continuing to work with Eastern Maar Aboriginal Corporation on the preparation of a Cultural Heritage Management Plan for the Western Highway between Buangor and Ararat”.

“The Cultural Heritage Management Plan will comprehensively detail the results of cultural heritage assessments, potential impacts and management to protect Aboriginal cultural heritage,” they said.

“We have engaged a qualified heritage adviser to ensure that, while working collaboratively with EMAC, we record values associated with the project area.”

A spokesman for the Allan government said it was working closely with the Eastern Maar Aboriginal Corporation to prepare the heritage plan.

Get out of the way blacktivists. Rather tedious.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 12, 2024 8:41 am

Annual Shannon’s renewal arrived today – +25% from last year, despite no claims and insured value staying the same. This was on top of a 30% increase last year.

WTF?

shatterzzz
March 12, 2024 8:42 am

Excellent summation on the result of the Eire referendum result ……
Why does the media keep calling Eire .. Ireland .. have they changed the name..?
https://twitter.com/RonanMullen/status/1766491136623829430

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 8:44 am

Tapeworm worried some of its tucker might be diverted.

Why are these people presented as doing anything other than talking their own book?

Using super for house deposits increases property prices by $75k: Super Members Council

Allowing first homeowners to withdraw their super for a house deposit could see property prices rise by nearly $75,000 across Australia’s five largest capital cities, according to new modelling from the Super Members Council (SMC).

Using retirement savings for housing would inflame an already-inflated property market and push the major capital city median price up by 9%, it says.

The SMC modelled a scheme that would allow first home buyers to take $50,000 from their super for a deposit, as has been proposed. It found the scheme fuelled demand and led to price increases that “quickly exceeded the $50,000 first homeowners could withdraw from super”.

The model showed prices spiking in all capital cities, with Sydney’s median ballooning by almost $80,000 and Melbourne by nearly $70,000. Perth was the highest, spiking $86,000.
The SMC’s CEO, Misha Schubert, said allowing super withdrawals for house deposits could raise prices for everyone:

We all desperately want more Australians to own their own home, but this idea won’t achieve that – it would just make that goal even harder for first home buyers by making house prices even more expensive.

SMC analysis found a 30-year-old couple who withdraws $35,000 each from their super today could retire with $195,000 less in today’s dollars – which would increase age pension costs, and likely be met with higher taxes.

Black Ball
Black Ball
March 12, 2024 8:44 am

Have a look at this turd:

Climate-warrior and Greens leader Adam Bandt has been slugging taxpayers just short of a million dollars in expenses in a single year, including spending $204,000 on printing costs.

Also on his eyebrow-raising expenses were $23,000 on two private jet flights and another $12,000 on a government-provided vehicle and petrol allowance.

His annual expense bill for 2022 was an eye-watering $963,166, not including his $314,000 salary and the wages of his personal staff, according to the Department of Finance.

But of course he has. FMD

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 8:47 am

Tintarella di Luna
Mar 12, 2024 8:22 AM
Published nearly ten years ago – nothing’s changed – the bureaucrats continue to cover their arses from way-back-when and continuing

As pointed out in the article, adoption is the only way to save these children. Fostering and placements are short term solutions that don’t provide enough stability for the children. It’s even worse when these children are only seen as sources of income for the relatives who pretend to be carers.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 8:48 am

The SMC modelled a scheme that would allow first home buyers to take $50,000 from their super for a deposit, as has been proposed. It found the scheme fuelled demand and led to price increases that “quickly exceeded the $50,000 first homeowners could withdraw from super”.

The price rise is greater than the subsidy?

VIsionary forecasting, surely. We’ve all been there before folks. 9 PM with the awkward line manager who looks like Kitty Sanchez, red wine powering you through the grind.

It’s tough out there.

SMC analysis found a 30-year-old couple who withdraws $35,000 each from their super today could retire with $195,000 less in today’s dollars – which would increase age pension costs, and likely be met with higher taxes.

Oh no maybe they’ll have the space to have children and be happy, but they won’t be able to afford a 4-bedroom RV trailer when they’re 75.

Oh no! ….anyway…

SAY GOODBYE TO THESE!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 8:49 am

Handsome boy not going to allow the votes of 70% of the electorate get in his way.

Albanese: federal government has not given up on treaty

Q: Has the government given up on a federal treaty with Indigenous Australians?

Anthony Albanese:

Well, treaties are being negotiated by states and territories, so we haven’t changed the position that we said before is the same, those processes are underway there.

There isn’t a single Indigenous community, of course, in Australia, it’s made up of a range of First Nations and those negotiations in places like Victoria [are] probably more advanced.

Each state and territory … is progressing, moves in their own way, whether it be Tasmania, Victoria, South Australia, of course, has their voice in on a state level.

Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 8:50 am
lotocoti
lotocoti
March 12, 2024 8:56 am

Why does the media keep calling Eire .. Ireland ..

So they don’t have to call Norn Iron … Ulster.

Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 8:56 am
Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 8:57 am

Isn’t this just a continuation of what Obama was doing and Trump reversed?

New Biden Rule Shuts Down Food Processing Plants Across Rural America

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 8:58 am

Youve got to hand it to the gruinaid.

Their headlines are more tone deaf than a 80 year old blacksmith whos workshop is bordered on one side by a firing range and on the other the jet engine testing shed.

Im sure this light hearted take warms the cockles of poor Dimitry the conscript, as he endures his 3rd drome wave of the week.

‘I feel like I’m in Sex and the City’ – the women who fled Ukraine to start anew
Amy Fleming

If Putin paid them to write a more demoralising story hed have a hard time coming up with anything better.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2024 8:59 am

Lode at 7:17.

Police remind the community that peaceful protest is part of healthy democracy,

Uh-huh.
Like lockDan protests?

however criminal acts will not be tolerated.

But they are.
This is now standard operating procedure.
Film of criminal behaviour on News at Six with Plod timidly watching on.
Senior Plod then does a presser saying what they just tolerated will not be tolerated.

Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 9:00 am
Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 9:08 am

If Putin paid them to write a more demoralising story hed have a hard time coming up with anything better.

Somewhat more competent than claiming that Mickey Mouse has fu&*ed your broad.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 12, 2024 9:12 am

Climate-warrior and Greens leader Adam Bandt has been slugging taxpayers just short of a million dollars in expenses in a single year, including spending $204,000 on printing costs.

Also on his eyebrow-raising expenses were $23,000 on two private jet flights and another $12,000 on a government-provided vehicle and petrol allowance.

His annual expense bill for 2022 was an eye-watering $963,166, not including his $314,000 salary and the wages of his personal staff, according to the Department of Finance.

Mr Bandt, whose party runs on a platform of climate change prevention, forked out $23,000 on two private jets during the 2022 election campaign.

On March 7, Mr Bandt booked a chartered flight from Townsville to Rockhampton during a tour of regional Queensland where he announced details of his plan to aggressively transition away from coal, costing taxpayers another $8,300.

The Greens leader refused to explain why he chartered a $15,000 private plane between Canberra and Brisbane to attend his party’s election campaign launch despite the taxpayer being forced to pick up the tab.

Mr Bandt’s travel costs also included almost $29,000 on government COMCAR trips and taxis and $57,000 for domestic flights along with $372,000 in staff travel expenses for his 21-staff strong entourage.

Daily Tele

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 12, 2024 9:15 am

Sorry BB – didn’t scroll back….

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 12, 2024 9:16 am

Why does the media keep calling Eire .. Ireland .. have they changed the name..?

Dunno why it’s that way, but when you’re there no-one calls it anything but Ireland.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 9:22 am

Really?

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 12, 2024 9:25 am

Read between the lines…

Kailab, aka Palmo Stingah, in 35th care placement before crime spree death, inquest hears

A 15-year-old boy who pinballed between 35 different residential care placements was “mostly absent” and in breach of bail when he embarked on the crime spree that led to his death, a court has heard.

Kailab — referred to by his first name only at the request of his family — was part of a group of boys who stole a LandCruiser in July 2022 and used it in a hold up at a servo in Adelaide River.

About 20 minutes later, the group crashed the LandCruiser on the Stuart Hwy and Kailab was found about 35m away and declared dead at the scene by paramedics shortly before midnight.

In her opening address to coroner Sarah McNamara on Monday, counsel assisting Helena Blundell said Kailab — who was also an emerging rapper under the stage name Palmo Stingah — had been in the care of Territory families since he was 5 years old.

But Ms Blundell said his behavioural issues had apparently “seriously deteriorated from 2018”, coinciding with non-attendance at school and increased interactions with the criminal justice system.

Kailab’s Territory Families case manager, Gemma Coote, was the first to give evidence and told the inquest she had “strongly advocated that we stop” moving him between placements.

“With children and young people that have complex trauma and a variety of comorbidities and attachment disorders, as you’ve noted, they need stability,” she said.

“They need consistency and when you continue to move a young person from their environment on a regular basis it creates compound trauma.”

Ms Coote agreed with Ms Blundell that such “constant movement” was “completely counter-productive, completely against everything that’s recommended for children such as Kailab”.

She said Kailab had told her “I’m not listened to, I’m not heard, no one understands me, they don’t take me anywhere, they don’t do anything with me” which contributed to a series of “escalating incident reports” at residential care provider CASPA.

Ms Coote said “a lot of incidents that occurred at CASPA houses” were “due to the staff not having a therapeutic background or implementing a trauma-informed approach”.

“When you read the strategies that they were using and the communication style that they were using, it was evident to me that it was not in line with the plans and recommendations that Kailab needed,” she said.

She said “when Kailab would escalate, some of the workers would continue to engage him” and “it would unravel from there”.

“In the incident reports that I was reading, from my recollection, it was evident to me that these things happen(ed) very quickly,” she said.

“They escalated quickly, staff engaged with him, he escalated further and then there would be physical interactions that were harming Kailab and then I think Kailab harmed other workers.”

The inquest continues.

and in a story linked to by the NT News:

Driver sent to Don Dale for crash that killed up-and-coming rapper Palmo Stingah

The boy behind the wheel of a stolen car that rolled near Manton Dam went on crime spree after being granted bail just days before the fatal crash, court documents reveal.

A teen who was behind the wheel of a stolen car that rolled near Manton Dam killing up-and-coming rapper Palmo Stingah has been sentenced to four years and six months behind bars.

It was revealed the boy, 15, was granted bail just days before the deadly crash and had been on a crime spree that included attacking a youth worker with a broken bottle.

The Supreme Court heard the then-14-year-old had been with Palmo Stingah and three other boys aged 15, 11 and nine when he drove up to the Adelaide River service station about 9.30pm on July 3 last year.

Armed with a pickaxe and a wheel brace, the group raided the servo, stealing cigarettes, cash, sunglasses and lollies, and throwing the wheel brace at a 35-year-old worker who tried to stop them.

They piled back in the car, and the 14-year-old drove north along the Stuart Hwy for about 48km before an overcorrection caused the car to roll several times before crashing into a tree.

None of the boys were wearing seatbelts and all were thrown from the vehicle – leaving the 15-year-old with a broken spine and pelvis, nine-year-old with head injuries, and tragically killing the 15-year-old Palmerston rapper known as Palmo Stingah.

In sentencing, Justice Peter Barr said it was clear the musician’s family was still keenly grieving his death.

Earlier on July 3, the 14-year-old driver was caught on CCTV damaging a sliding door in an attempt to break-in to Casuarina Square, and hooning in a different stolen car to Don Dale.

He drove the stolen Toyota Corolla down a service road of the youth detention centre and across a grass field, shaking and climbing onto a fence as he yelled out to some of the detainees inside.

The boy drove off at speed, losing control and spinning out the car before regaining control and driving away – just hours before the fatal crash would occur.

The court heard that five days prior to the deadly crash, the 14-year-old had been granted bail for unrelated offences.

One day later on June 29, he was part of a group of up to 20 people who arrived at a youth centre in Malak and began to approach one of the 24-year-old staff.

Children who had been playing in the area were quickly ushered inside as the youth worker watched the 14-year-old break off the bottom of a bottle on the bitumen.

Finding the door to the youth centre locked, the teen threw a chair at the 24-year-old, punched him, then chased him for 100m while armed with the broken bottle neck.

The court also heard that after his arrest the boy had been involved in 65 incidents at Don Dale, including making shanks out of a PlayStation remote, climbing on roofs, and jamming the locks of his cell block before assaulting another young person.

He was sedated after assaulting prison staff in an assault for which he was also charged.

The court heard the boy had been diagnosed with autism and ADHD, and had suffered a difficult childhood.

He pleaded guilty to unlawful use of a motor vehicle, aggravated robbery, property damage, driving dangerously causing death, recklessly endangering harm and recklessly endangering harm to a child under 10, and was granted a non-parole period of two years.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 9:27 am

Cucks detected.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/rv14qr/is_the_pronoun_eire_offensive/

One sensible comment:

Éire is probably the only Irish word that I hear in a home counties, RP accent, which is very ironic. If your heart is in the right place, the sort of person who would give you any grief over it is the sort you should avoid anyway.

Also funny that Irish call Ulster the North etc but refuse to be called Southern Ireland.

“Southern Ireland has been liberated from British Imperialism”

I double dog dare them to declare that is an untrue statement.

will
will
March 12, 2024 9:27 am

T

his is a true tale, my BIL offered a $2 tip to a waiter in Cairns and it was refused with a smirk and a remark. “if it’s all you can afford, you best keep it”.

So 100 customers a day at $2 would be $200 (excluding tax) a day maybe $1000 a week. Not good enough for you? That is some industrial grade arrogance there, with an attitude of entitlement not gratitude.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 9:32 am

This is a true tale, my BIL offered a $2 tip to a waiter in Cairns and it was refused with a smirk and a remark. “if it’s all you can afford, you best keep it”.

If they appreciate the tip, they invite people back, work on a relationship, learn the customer needs and get bigger tips.

It’s what good taxi drivers used to do, get their own client lists before Uber etc.

Only a fool throws pennies away. What’s the bet they complain about nEgAtIvE gEaRiNg!!!

What a retard.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2024 9:33 am

flyingduk
Mar 12, 2024 8:41 AM
Annual Shannon’s renewal arrived today – +25% from last year, despite no claims and insured value staying the same.

Insurance?
A driver of your prowess?
Surely not required.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 9:35 am

So 100 customers a day at $2 would be $200 (excluding tax) a day maybe $1000 a week. Not good enough for you? That is some industrial grade arrogance there, with an attitude of entitlement not gratitude.

If they appreciate the tip, they invite people back, work on a relationship, learn the customer needs and get bigger tips.

It’s what good taxi drivers used to do, get their own client lists before Uber etc.

This could be a very well-paying job, a hard job with not ornery hours, but with a low barrier to entry.

“No boomer, I’d rather piss this away and be smug about your smol PP energy tips”

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 9:36 am

WITH ornery hours

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2024 9:43 am

Albanese commits $4bn to remote indigenous communities

By joe kelly
National Affairs editor
10:30PM March 11, 2024
614 Comments

Anthony Albanese will unveil $4bn for housing in remote ­communities across the Northern Territory under the biggest ­announcement for Indigenous Australians since the failure of the voice referendum in October, with Labor aiming to build 2700 homes over the decade.

The Prime Minister will on Tuesday travel to the community of Binjari, near Katherine, in the Northern Territory where he will commit the government to ­delivering 270 new homes a year in a bid to reduce overcrowding by 50 per cent.

About 92,000 Aboriginal Australians live in locations classified as “very remote”. The announcement on Tuesday is being framed by NT Chief Minister Eva Lawler as providing new homes for more than 10,000 people.

“The years to come will provide homes for remote-area residents that are safer and more secure, as well as employment and training opportunities for those who live in our communities and homelands,” Ms Lawler said. “This is a game changer for the Territory.”

Mr Albanese has reframed his Indigenous affairs agenda following the defeat of the voice to parliament to focus more strongly on practical issues such as jobs, education, housing and justice.

Handing down the annual Closing the Gap report in February, which revealed only four out of 19 goals were on track to be met and four were going backwards, Mr Albanese said the government needed to find better ways to improve the lives of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

He told parliament the government would “take the time ­needed” to establish a truth-telling body, in comments interpreted by Indigenous leaders as a delay in ­establishing the Makarrata ­Commission – despite Mr Albanese saying on election night he would implement the Uluru Statement in full.

The Uluru Statement comprises an Indigenous voice, treaty and truth telling.

In the wake of the referendum defeat, in which 60 per cent of Australians voted against a voice to parliament, the Coalition has pressured the government to be more specific about its plans to provide practical support for Indigenous Australians and create jobs. Opposition spokeswoman for Indigenous Australians Jacinta Price challenged the government to bring Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders “into the fabric of this nation”, warning that failure on this score would elevate indigenous policy as a battleground issue at the next election.

Mr Albanese said on Monday the government was “committed to practical actions that improve the lives of First Nations people” and argued that better housing in remote communities would help close the gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians.

The government will argue the $4bn investment into remote communities over the next decade will create employment opportunities and develop skills to build and manage housing.

Ms Lawler said the investment would go “straight into the hands of our remote communities and Territory businesses.”

Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney said the funding would “make a difference to the lives of so many Aboriginal people living in remote communities”.

“Increasing housing supply will ease overcrowding, which we know is a major barrier to closing the gap,” Ms Burney said.

The $4bn investment will be delivered jointly by the commonwealth, which will provide $2.1bn over the decade, and the Northern Territory government, which will provide the remaining $1.9bn.

A new partnership agreement will be established between both governments, Aboriginal Housing NT and Aboriginal land councils.

The commonwealth’s share of the funding involves $843.8m in new spending from the Albanese government, with the rest met through pre-existing commitments and reprioritisations.

“This landmark agreement between the commonwealth, Northern Territory government and Aboriginal Housing NT delivers a significant investment in remote housing in the NT over the next decade,” Mr Albanese said. “The Northern Territory has the highest level of overcrowding in the country which we are working to halve by building 270 houses each year.”

For remote housing arrangements, the Northern Territory government usually leases the land, which is owned by Aboriginal communities, and tenants pay about $70 per bedroom. Houses with more than four bedrooms are capped at $280 a week. Homes are allocated to families by the communities in accordance with local decision making strategies.

The commonwealth is also investing $120m over three years to match the NT’s investments for the delivery of housing improvements and infrastructure upgrades in remote homelands.

Homelands or outstations are remote areas where small populations of Aboriginal people live on lands where they have traditional ownership. There are about 500 homelands in the NT with a total of 2400 homes. In these areas, the land and homes are owned by Aboriginal people so no rent is paid to the government.

Marion Scrymgour, Labor MP for Lingiari in the NT, said community consultations, local decision-making and “community priorities” would be central to delivering the new homes.

The government said the ­delivery of housing across ­remote NT communities had ­accelerated in recent years, with commonwealth-funded delivery increasing by more than 200 per cent between 2021-22 and 2022-23.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 9:44 am

Albo announces $4bn for indigenous housing.

The residents of the Albovilles might have to identify to get his attention.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2024 9:45 am

Well I suspect the crisis ain’t going to be the climate, it’s going to be the monarchy. Quite soon too.

Not the monarchy, just the present bunch of monarchs and heirs.
There is a nice Aussie girl who is Queen of Demark and her husband the King likes beer and sailboats. They’d be fine Monarchs of Denmark and Australia. The Danes I’ve spoken to are very happy with their new Queen and King.
Give the Windsors the flick!

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 9:45 am

Snap!

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2024 9:47 am

Stolen cars in the NT. I suppose it is out of the question to have a Police helicopter with a gyro stabilised .50 cal put a round through the engine block? A little further back to the right of the car wouldn’t hurt either.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 9:47 am

Johanna:
Part of the solution to the problem is the naming:

A radicalized left still buzzing with the background radiation of the Jeremy Corbyn era.

These people are not a harmless sector of the population – they are, in fact, a Revolutionary Communist Army with allies from the Muslim Diaspora.
They are not a collection of disgruntled teenagers and religious followers of Islam. They are an army of fanatics who state their aim is to overthrow the present governments and societies of the Enlightenment and replace it with an ideology that has never worked and has only ever produced heaps of skulls. It will then be overthrown by another Cult that has never worked and also only ever produces piles of skulls of the non Cultists.
And they are doing it with the connivance of the leaders of our society who were voted in to perform their stated duties, but who have decided it is an easier life to go along with the barbarians howling at the gates.
It is now at the point that it will take a Pinochet style of government and “Rivers of Blood” to save Western civilisation.
What is it about us that we are so politically naive as to the stated actions of our enemies?

shatterzzz
March 12, 2024 9:52 am

Agile & innovative ..! Pittsburgh Plod announces the best times to commit crimes is between 3 & 7.00am when plod will not be available for general policing .. FFS!
Defund the plod working a treat .. LOL!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/pittsburgh-police-say-they-will-no-longer-respond-to-calls-that-are-not-in-progress-emergencies-amid-staffing-shortages/ar-BB1jIpvv?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=3227f035c9ab46d4b5c623a

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2024 9:53 am

Why in hell would be buy Brit subs for AUKUS? They can’t even make a toy aircraft carrier that works.
At least it is doubtful that AUKUS will deliver anything. Another political brainfart like the NBN which unfortunately happened.
We are led by utter fools.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 9:54 am

Farmer Gez

Mar 12, 2024 6:09 AM
Always at night. Must be the position.
I need to change a few things in the diet and drink a lot more. Farming is a sweaty job.

Have they done an analysis of the stone? If memory serves me correctly, there are 3 different minerals that commonly make up kidney stones, and the treatment may be different depending on which one you are producing.
But yes – increase the water unless you have a cardiac condition.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 9:55 am

I suppose it is out of the question to have a Police helicopter with a gyro stabilised .50 cal put a round through the engine block? A little further back to the right of the car wouldn’t hurt either.

It is now at the point that it will take a Pinochet style of government and “Rivers of Blood” to save Western civilisation.

Everybody needs to calm down and lay off the Super Male Vitality for a while.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 10:02 am

Yet another moonbeam from the larger lunacy:

The North Face is inviting loyal customers to complete an hour long online course on the “unique challenges people of colour face when accessing the outdoors” in return for a 20% discount.

Are they suggesting only white people buy North Face clothing?

Tom
Tom
March 12, 2024 10:04 am

This is a true tale, my BIL offered a $2 tip to a waiter in Cairns and it was refused with a smirk and a remark. “if it’s all you can afford, you best keep it”.

Australia has by far the worst customer service in the world of tourism and hospitality as many of those employed in the trade Down Under regard service as servitude.

That arrogance was further entrenched during Kung Flu when state and federal governments paid people to stay home on special financial entitlements.

Australian hospitality workers can only dream about the thousands of dollars per week that American bar staff make in tips because their service is expected to be excellent.

More evidence that Australia is the dumbest country on earth.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
March 12, 2024 10:11 am

who was also an emerging rapper under the stage name Palmo Stingah — had been in the care of Territory families since he was 5 years old.

A fitting end to a waste of space. The “care” was always just free money for nothing.

Emerging “rapper”. What shite.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 10:16 am

I understand the utter frustration people have but no, we can’t abide by that. Life might be cheap in the camps, but we aren’t dictated to by them.

It’s time to end the subsidisation of shanty towns.

Either you learn the traditional lifestyle and become self-sufficient, or you abide by the law in town and get a job.

That young man wasn’t a waste of space, polite society condemned him to a life of stupidity and misery.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 10:22 am

Why in hell would be buy Brit subs for AUKUS? They can’t even make a toy aircraft carrier that works.

The Astutes are proven and fairly good though right? The US ships will take forever and be too expensive.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
March 12, 2024 10:23 am

From Monty Python – “society is to blame”.

No care. No responsibility. It’s everyone’s fault but mine.

Waste of space. Now gone – at the expense of the public taxpayer. “Family” would have kicked in nothing.

johanna
johanna
March 12, 2024 10:28 am

132andBush
Mar 11, 2024 10:27 PM

Solar input is the same everywhere on the planet, so their farms don’t have to be built on arable land.

Monty suggests that solar industrial precincts (not farms) could be built anywhere, like in Antarctica. for example. Because ‘solar input is the same everywhere on the planet’ – the ignorance, it burns (h/t Watts).

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 10:30 am

That young man wasn’t a waste of space, polite society condemned him to a life of stupidity and misery.

Agreed, leftists & liberals are condemning many indigenous people to a life of misery through low expectations, but the mum who wouldn’t stay off the booze while pregnant bears no responsibility?

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 10:32 am

Society IS to blame.

Society props up these ridiculous shanty towns and indigenous “leaders”.

The misery ends when the sit-down money ends.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 10:34 am

Of course she does Roger. Remember the outrage at the Leak (?) cartoon, the fatherless kid and the cops?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
March 12, 2024 10:36 am

“What’s is name?”

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
March 12, 2024 10:37 am

Abbot’s greatest failure. Not abolishing 18C.

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 10:39 am

Only a fool throws pennies away.

Dot, when I was a child my grandmother advised to pick up even the smallest coin you find on the ground, never insult providence by turning up your nose at it because it isn’t bigger.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 10:42 am

Anthony Albanese will unveil $4bn for housing in remote ­communities across the Northern Territory under the biggest ­announcement for Indigenous Australians since the failure of the voice referendum in October, with Labor aiming to build 2700 homes over the decade.

That’s close to $1.5m per housing unit.

And it’s likely that by the time they get to the last tranche they’ll be replacing houses built in the first tranche.

132andBush
132andBush
March 12, 2024 10:44 am

johanna
Mar 12, 2024 10:28 AM

Yes, a comment so stupid I’m beginning to think he was just trolling.

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 10:49 am

Australia has by far the worst customer service in the world of tourism and hospitality as many of those employed in the trade Down Under regard service as servitude.

I encountered the worst customer service in London when checking into a hotel, though that was a few decades ago. The guy at the desk was too busy chatting to another staff member and kept us waiting some time. When he deigned to attend to us he behaved like we were interrupting his social life. If the stay hadn’t been paid in advance we would have walked out. Worse was to come when we got to the room, the ceiling in the bathroom was black with mould. It wasn’t a cheap hotel either.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 12, 2024 10:50 am

The Astutes would be a good submarine for Australia, although we generally use US combat equipment when we can. Given our major ally is the US that makes sense.

The main problem with any nuclear acquisition though is that it is too slow arriving, and Labor insist on building some of them in Australia.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 10:51 am

Anthony Albanese will unveil $4bn for housing in remote ­communities across the Northern Territory under the biggest ­announcement for Indigenous Australians since the failure of the voice referendum in October, with Labor aiming to build 2700 homes over the decade.

The money should come out of the annual $40 Billion (by now) that the Feral Guv’ment (Taxpayer money} gives to the Aboriginal Grifting Industry. They can build and maintain their own homes.

BTW, when can we expect an Annual Audit on where that $40 Billion goes?

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 10:52 am

It’s time to end the subsidisation of shanty towns.

Either you learn the traditional lifestyle and become self-sufficient, or you abide by the law in town and get a job.

That young man wasn’t a waste of space, polite society condemned him to a life of stupidity and misery.

Dot, that is my philosophy as well. All the do-gooders and their enablers either cannot or won’t see what they are doing.

Zafiro
Zafiro
March 12, 2024 10:52 am

Last decade there was a tent city at those “birthing trees” east of Ararat. It was there for a few years. All dole bludging white abbos and ecotards. Fire up the bulldozers.

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 10:55 am

BTW, when can we expect an Annual Audit on where that $40 Billion goes?

When the Coalition wins government and Jacinta Price is the Minister for Indigenous Affairs.

johanna
johanna
March 12, 2024 10:57 am

Barking Toad
Mar 12, 2024 10:11 AM

who was also an emerging rapper under the stage name Palmo Stingah — had been in the care of Territory families since he was 5 years old.

A fitting end to a waste of space. The “care” was always just free money for nothing.

Emerging “rapper”. What shite.

Toad, I’m not for a second pretending that little scrotes do a lot of damage, and should be punished.

My point is different.

Kids who have had 35 ‘placements’ from age five to when they died at age 16 have been failed. WTF? His ‘loving family’ weren’t there for him, and the gubbmint kept moving him around.

All this ‘Aboriginal families are even more caring than whiteys’ shit needs to be put in the trash bin where it belongs.

It can be a safety net for unfortunate circumstances. The reality is, grandparents looking after the kids of drink/drug/gambling parents is going to die out as the grandparents do.

What happens then?#

cohenite
March 12, 2024 10:57 am

Why doesn’t anyone call them out on this hypocrisy!?

You did ok.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 10:58 am

Oh well.

Goodbye, any chances of seriously challenging the incumbent parties.

Big money to be taken out of politics in radical electoral overhaul

Billionaires such as Clive Palmer and Mike Cannon-Brookes will have their influence on politics dramatically curtailed.

….more taxpayer funding, tied to how many votes a party won, is expected to flow to party headquarters.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/big-money-to-be-taken-out-of-politics-in-radical-electoral-overhaul-20240308-p5faxq.html

Ahem…

The right to secede is a necessity to maintain liberty.

(Where to though? Macquarie Island?)

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 11:02 am

All this ‘Aboriginal families are even more caring than whiteys’ shit needs to be put in the trash bin where it belongs.

It can be a safety net for unfortunate circumstances. The reality is, grandparents looking after the kids of drink/drug/gambling parents is going to die out as the grandparents do.

What happens then?#

Isn’t this shifting responsibility to old people who are themselves usually already burdened by medical problems? Don’t the do-gooders see the unfairness of this approach?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 12, 2024 11:02 am

Everybody needs to calm down and lay off the Super Male Vitality for a while

No!

Guns and Blood*!
Strength and Honour^!

*By someone else.
^I haven’t got any strength left.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 11:05 am

Eyrie

Mar 12, 2024 9:53 AM
Why in hell would be buy Brit subs for AUKUS? They can’t even make a toy aircraft carrier that works.
At least it is doubtful that AUKUS will deliver anything. Another political brainfart like the NBN which unfortunately happened.
We are led by utter fools.

No, Eyrie. The Labor Party is implementing the Greens Disarmament Policy. We’ll never see those subs and we’ll be kept weak for when the Greens and Labor – when faced with Chinese demands – will say we cannot stand up to them, and therefore, to save lives, we must surrender.
They will make weakness a splendid excuse to give the country away – weakness they are themselves responsible for.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 11:08 am

GWGB.

All staff sacked as sport blogging site sold (12 Mar)

Sports blogging site Deadspin was sold to a European start-up and the entire staff was reportedly fired with barely any notice on Monday — just months after the publication was forced to apologise for wrongly accusing a young Kansas City Chiefs fan of wearing “blackface”, The New York Post has reported.

Jim Spanfeller, the CEO of parent company G/O Media, broke the news of the lay-offs and Deadspin’s sale to Lineup Publishing in a memo to shocked staff

Among those was senior writer Carron Phillips, who penned an incendiary column last November that accused nine-year-old Kansas City Chiefs fan Holden Armenta of racism against Native Americans and black people for wearing “blackface” and headdress to a football game.

We haven’t seen such an egregious smear of a young fan since the Adam Goodes incident. Bye bye Deadspin they/thems, your spin earned the death of your own jobs.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 11:09 am

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Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 11:10 am

Dot
Mar 12, 2024 9:55 AM
It is now at the point that it will take a Pinochet style of government and “Rivers of Blood” to save Western civilisation.

Everybody needs to calm down and lay off the Super Male Vitality for a while.

Yes, that’s the sort of ridicule that Enoch Powell copped, Dot. And it worked. Now look at what Great Britain has because they ignored him. Or are you in favour of the chaos that is now GB?

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 11:13 am

Barking Toad

Mar 12, 2024 10:11 AM
who was also an emerging rapper under the stage name Palmo Stingah — had been in the care of Territory families since he was 5 years old.
A fitting end to a waste of space. The “care” was always just free money for nothing.
Emerging “rapper”. What shite.

His life was only worth what it brought in in Child Endowment or as it’s colloquially known, “Little Pay Week”.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 11:14 am

You’re going to save society by killing people?

Okay chief, do your own dirty work.

Yes. I am going to mock you for saying this. In addition to this, you’re butchering what Powell said.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2024 11:16 am

Nurse Betty

It is now at the point that it will take a Pinochet style of government and “Rivers of Blood” to save Western civilisation.

This blood-lust fantasy of yours?
How long have you had it?
Does it come and go?
Did the patient on Ward F really get what was coming to them?

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 11:19 am

Crossie

Mar 12, 2024 10:39 AM
Only a fool throws pennies away.

Dot, when I was a child my grandmother advised to pick up even the smallest coin you find on the ground, never insult providence by turning up your nose at it because it isn’t bigger.

So many generations have never heard of the proverb “When you look after the pennies, the pounds look after themselves.”

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 12, 2024 11:20 am

A defensive strategy is Ukraine’s best plan to confront Russia in 2024. So why is a counteroffensive being discussed?

Mick Ryan has been totally wrong about virtually everything since the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. So why should anyone read a word he writes?

Well, I suppose if you wished to mock him relentlessly, that might be a decent reason, but aside from that, he’s totally worthless.

cohenite
March 12, 2024 11:21 am

Indolent
Mar 12, 2024 8:59 AM
New Information on Liz Cheney’s Deceit and Perverse Actions Surrounding Events on Jan. 6 Raises Serious Calls for Her Arrest and Prosecution

She is an evil kunt. The worst are always the faux conservatives who side with the lefties.

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 12, 2024 11:29 am

BTW, when can we expect an Annual Audit on where that $40 Billion goes?

When the Coalition wins government and Jacinta Price is the Minister for Indigenous Affairs.

rofl aah good to have a chuckle in the morning. This this is the Coalition we’re talking about here.

Look, I suppose it’s not entirely impossible that they deliver some kind of audit. But they won’t do a damn thing about what it turns up. They’ll cave at the first speed bump and it’ll be Team Australia mkII.

The scions of the Aboriginal Industry know this all too well and know exactly how to protect (and continue to expand) their turf when a coalition razor gang starts sniffing around. Noel Pearson provided the exemplar.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 11:30 am

Crossie

Mar 12, 2024 11:02 AM
Isn’t this shifting responsibility to old people who are themselves usually already burdened by medical problems? Don’t the do-gooders see the unfairness of this approach?

You see it so often in the towns – the grandies look after the grandkids while the parents get on the piss. The grandies get no help – and it’s nearly always the grandmum who does it all, grandad get’s on the turps with the youngsters – there’s rarely any money or groceries given to help.
Then Grandma drops off the perch and the mothers of the kids, who have had bugger all experience looking after their own, are suddenly called to cope, something they are incapable of doing. So they keep drinking and the kids are abandoned.
That’s the reality of life in the camps and the hand patters ignore the very obvious results of their hand patting because they don’t want to see it. They’re too busy getting sympathy from the hand patters in their own social circle.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2024 11:31 am

Bad blood derails WA colony Albany’s bicentenary

EXCLUSIVE
By paige taylor
Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
11:53PM March 11, 2024
173 Comments

Commemorations for the bicentenary of Western Australia’s first colony are in crisis because of bad blood between senior Menang Noongar people of the state’s south coast and the City of Albany in the federal electorate where 76 per cent of residents voted No in the voice referendum last October.

The city and its publisher, UWAP, have shelved a book to commemorate the 200th anniversary of Edmund Lockyer’s arrival in Albany after the only commissioned Indigenous contributor, senior Menang Noongar man Harley Coyne, withdrew from the project. Other commissioned ­authors followed.

The book was going to be the centrepiece of the bicentenary with around 14 commissioned authors paid an advance for a chapter in their field of expertise. However, in an email obtained by The Australian, the City of Albany’s arts and culture manager, Paul ­Nielsen, told the authors the project was being paused.

“The ‘pause’ is effectively in place from now … Given the current situation that we have discussed here, along with numerous recent conversations between the city and a range of elders, coupled with the current stage of overall bicentenary planning, this has been deemed the only prudent course of action at this time,” Mr Nielsen wrote in his email to the authors.

“Now is not the time to try and press on with establishing an appropriate cultural oversight approach for the book; we need to give our Noongar community time.”

The Australian has been told there were points of tension between key Noongar leaders and the city throughout 2023, in part because they felt the city only consulted them when required for grant applications.

As well, the voice debate was especially fraught in WA where No proponents skilfully linked the proposal for an advisory body with existing state legislation to protect Aboriginal cultural heritage. The cultural heritage laws were more permissive than the ones they replaced because they introduced broad exemptions for homeowners, industry and farmers but the rollout was a shambles and this played into the hands of opponents. The backlash to the laws was so ferocious that some Aboriginal groups were relieved when the laws were scrapped just weeks after they came into effect.

Senior Menang Noongar man Ken Kelly watched as bipartisan support for the cultural heritage laws disintegrated into a brawl over the voice. Some of the things people said at public meetings really stung. Some Menang Noongars began to question how they were perceived by people they had known their whole lives, what civic leaders thought of them, and even whether their local council respected them. “How a lot of people really feel about us as Aboriginal people came out as a negative in the lead-up to the voice referendum,” Mr Kelly said.

The City of Albany’s preparations for a bicentenary book ran into trouble about this time. Local elders Lester Coyne and his sister Vernice Gillies opted not to perform Welcome to Country for the council anymore.

Albany was settled in 1826, three years before Perth, and it is sometimes described as a “friendly frontier” because Noongar people were already accustomed to visitors, including French whalers. The famous collaboration between Albany’s first government resident Alexander Collie and ­Menang leader Mokare has supported this perception.

An archive of Australia’s frontier massacres published by the University of Newcastle claims that tensions between pastoralists and Aboriginal people emerged relatively fast and that the Ravensthorpe massacre happened east of Albany in 1880 when pastoralists were given licence to shoot natives for one month following the murder of a white farmer.

Noongar author Kim Scott, a Miles Franklin winner, portrayed the complex relationship between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people in the region in his novel That Deadman Dance.

“Much is made of Albany’s so-called ‘Friendly Frontier’. But I think ‘betrayal’ is a more accurate label for our history on the south coast,” he told The Australian.

“Betrayal of First People’s deep humanity and cross-cultural sophistication, and the squandering of hope and promise in the face of greed and fear.”

Albany’s new mayor Greg Stocks, who was elected in October, said the City of Albany was committed to walking with the Menang Noongar community.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 11:37 am

(Fine day at the Cafe, perfect weather. Got a young koel to accept food from my hand for the first time early this morning, and twice more since then. They’re very hungry this time of year as they’re about to leave on migration to PNG. I don’t know if male or female, the kids all look like females until they get their adult feathers after a year.)

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 11:41 am

Dot

Mar 12, 2024 11:14 AM
You’re going to save society by killing people?
Okay chief, do your own dirty work.
Yes. I am going to mock you for saying this. In addition to this, you’re butchering what Powell said.

You said “You’re going to save society by killing people?”

I have predicted that’s what will happen if we don’t get our act together in very much the same way Enoch Powell predicted the Rivers of Blood would ensue if Britain didn’t get it’s act together.
Mock away, Dot.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 11:47 am

“…First People’s deep humanity and cross-cultural sophistication…”

He has fully assimilated the Western trope of the noble savage.

I am as free as nature first made man,
Ere the base laws of servitude began,
When wild in woods the noble savage ran.

– Dryden

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 12, 2024 11:48 am

Just noted The Oz rejected a comment I made on JK Rowling article 2 days ago regarding trans.

I merely said this was what Jordan Petersen warned about at his Uni several years ago and said support JKR. Pretty much in line with most other comments that were supporting JKR.

Only problem is I can see it had 150 likes before they rejected it !

Probably the most ridiculous rejected comment I have had.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 11:51 am

Hey I agree with Extinction Rebellion about something!

Climate activist’s warning to Melburnians while causing more traffic chaos in CBD (Sky News mainpage headline, 12 Mar)

Members of Extinction Rebellion Victoria again took to the streets in Melbourne’s CBD to demand climate change action, as a part of their five-day long protest “Rebel for Life”.

While slowly marching down Collins Street on Tuesday, an unnamed member of the group live-streamed the demonstration, highlighting a planned act of “mass civil disobedience” to be held on Saturday where they are “hoping to get up to 100 to 200 people arrested”.

What an excellent idea! Arrest them just like they want to be arrested. Then put them in gaol for a year, where hopefully they might grow brains.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 11:55 am

Roger
Mar 12, 2024 10:02 AM
Yet another moonbeam from the larger lunacy:

The North Face is inviting loyal customers to complete an hour long online course on the “unique challenges people of colour face when accessing the outdoors” in return for a 20% discount.

Are they suggesting only white people buy North Face clothing?

Pehaps if North Face lowered the peices?

This suggestion offered with no need for a discount on clothing I don’t buy anyway.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 11:56 am

prices!!

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 11:58 am

Barking Toad
Mar 12, 2024 10:11 AM
who was also an emerging rapper under the stage name Palmo Stingah — had been in the care of Territory families since he was 5 years old.

A fitting end to a waste of space. The “care” was always just free money for nothing.

Emerging “rapper”. What shite.

Oi, “rapping” is a traditional indigenous custom, just not for Australian indigenes.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 12:00 pm

Troughers gotta trough news.

‘Legitimate work expenses’: Stephen Conroy defends Adam Bandt’s expenses bill (Sky News, 12 Mar)

I’m wondering why Mr Bandit has a $12,000 claim for petrol when he obviously drives everywhere in an electric car. And how could he have $23,000 in private jet expenses? Everyone knows private jets are hated by Gaia.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 12:01 pm

132andBush
Mar 12, 2024 10:44 AM
johanna
Mar 12, 2024 10:28 AM

Yes, a comment so stupid I’m beginning to think he was just trolling.

Dare to consider the probability that he may actually be that stupid.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 12:03 pm

Sorry to hear about your kidney stones Gez, bastards of things they are. Are yours uric acid or calcium? Mine from a few years ago were acid, now fully under control with Allopurinol. I hope to not feel that level of pain again.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 12:04 pm

Faulty alert

cohenite
March 12, 2024 12:06 pm

An archive of Australia’s frontier massacres published by the University of Newcastle claims that tensions between pastoralists and Aboriginal people emerged relatively fast and that the Ravensthorpe massacre happened east of Albany in 1880 when pastoralists were given licence to shoot natives for one month following the murder of a white farmer.

Anything published by Newcastle uni will be unadulterated leftie bullshit. Windscuttle has dealt extensively with the massacre/genocide lies:

https://www.kooriweb.org/foley/resources/pdfs/197.pdf

And elsewhere especially at Quadrant which links are not working right now. Quite frankly the 3rd nations are running amok but that will be nothing once the muzzies the liars are importing start flexing their gonads.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 12:08 pm

Just noted The Oz rejected a comment I made on JK Rowling article 2 days ago regarding trans.

Rooster, why are you posting a comment about our resident chess master in a JK Rowling piece in the Oz? No wonder they turfed it.

Link to the article as it could be interesting.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 12:10 pm

Pehaps if North Face lowered the peices?

Pricey gear, so I’m told.

cohenite
March 12, 2024 12:10 pm

I hope to not feel that level of pain again.

Dickless wimp.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 12:14 pm

cohenite
Mar 12, 2024 12:10 PM
I hope to not feel that level of pain again.

Dickless wimp.

Also brainless.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 12:15 pm

I have predicted that’s what will happen if we don’t get our act together in very much the same way Enoch Powell predicted the Rivers of Blood would ensue if Britain didn’t get it’s act together.

Go back and read Powell’s speech, the way you are referencing it (a Pinochet style government) only makes sense as a colourful lilt.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 12:50 pm

m0nty
Mar 12, 2024 12:03 PM
Sorry to hear about your kidney stones Gez, bastards of things they are.

So there is some humanity there with you. One Up Thumb as recognition.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 12:56 pm

Bonfire of the Rinos.

Bloodbath at RNC: Trump team slashes staff at committee (11 Mar)

Donald Trump’s newly installed leadership team at the Republican National Committee on Monday began the process of pushing out dozens of officials, according to two people close to the Trump campaign and the RNC. All told, the expectation is that more than 60 RNC staffers who work across the political, communications and data departments will be let go. Those being asked to resign include five members of the senior staff, though the names were not made public.

Nice! The downside of this is the deep state is going to be even more terrified of Trump as President. Will they overstep and give the red states a Ft Sumter? This year could get very messy.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 1:00 pm

Will they overstep and give the red states a Ft Sumter? This year could get very messy.

America had the bonus army, Shay’s Rebellion, the Articles of Confederation lacking leadership, the question of if the constitution was ever validated properly, four of the states likely seceded legally and others like Texas could never legally secede and a no bullshit civil war.

You’re worried about disloyal public servants.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 1:07 pm

Pizzas are killing the planet.

NYC burns pizzerias with new rule cutting smoky pollutants by 75%: ‘You’re going after pizza?’ (11 Mar)

New York City has quietly approved a controversial green plan to require pizzerias and matzah bakeries using decades-old wood- and coal-fired stoves to cut their smoky pollutants by 75%. Mayor Eric Adams’ Department of Environmental Protection said the fresh edict takes effect April 27, with some city businesses having already coughed up more than $600,000 for new smoke-eating systems in anticipation of the expected mandate.

At this rate NYC is going to be empty within a decade. Why would anyone want to live in a city where crims skate scot free, the shops are boarded up, the National Guard is needed for the subway and there’s no pizza?

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 1:10 pm

VIC’s government debt is at $126 billion as of last week.

Standard & Poors warns it will be $272.2 billion by 2027 if present trends continue.

On rough calculations, that leaves every Victorian with a $1700 p.a. interest bill without even touching the principal.

Of course, not every Victorian is gainfully employed.

I note South Australia is now touting for VIC businesses to migrate, citing lower costs of business including energy.

Hugh
Hugh
March 12, 2024 1:13 pm

The bearded fruit juice drinkers who buy North Face gear love being made to feel guilty about their white privilege.

And they have no problem whatsoever with buying overpriced junk made using slave labour. What do they care if a few kulaks were worked to death making their sleeveless polyester jacket?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 1:16 pm

I note South Australia is now touting for VIC businesses to migrate

That’s like moving from North Korea to Venezuela.

Kneel
Kneel
March 12, 2024 1:25 pm

“These stark differences are echoed in the most recent Levelized Cost of Energy Analysis by Lazard, a leading financial advisory and asset management firm. Their findings suggest that the cost per kilowatt (KW) for utility-scale solar is less than $1,000, while the comparable cost per KW for nuclear power is between $6,500 and $12,250. At present estimates, the Vogtle nuclear plant will cost about $10,300 per KW, near the top of Lazard’s range. This means nuclear power is nearly 10 times more expensive to build than utility-scale solar on a cost per KW basis.”

Did they bother to:

* adjust for capacity factor? Solar is lucky to hit 30%, nuke/coal easily does 90+%

* include backup for solar? Grid scale batteries are way too expensive and prone to self-combustion, while pumped hydro – well, Snowy 2.0 anyone?

* include night-time supply? No Solar power at night. None. zero. zip. See also: backup issue.

* include cost over lifetime? Nuke (or coal) can do 50+ years, no problem; solar is lucky to last 15 years

* include waste disposal? Solar generates massive amounts of toxic waste that can’t be recycled. How much you wanna bet they included waste disposal costs for nuclear, but not solar?

* added grid costs: solar requires extending the grid massively, nuke/coal can be placed on existing (but defunct) sites where transmission capacity is already sufficient. Even going to “greenfield” new site for nuke/coal, transmission costs are a fraction of that required for solar.

* include the “social cost of co2” (the “externalities”, as it were) for creating the solar panels and the extra transmission lines?

* look at EROEI (Energy Return On Energy Invested) – solar is lucky to break 4, coal and nuke are an order of magnitude greater. Anything below 5 is marginal at best.

Neglecting ANY ONE of the above will skew the results. Neglecting ALL of them (as is most likely) make their LCOE calculations the worst advice you could possibly give.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 1:29 pm

I note South Australia is now touting for VIC businesses to migrate, citing lower costs of business including energy.

Cheaper energy? What energy? If SA did not have the Connectors to Sictoria then it would be King Island with a diesel generator for back up (main power IMHO).

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 12, 2024 1:30 pm
Eyrie
Eyrie
March 12, 2024 1:36 pm

Hmmm….

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/key-boeing-whistleblower-found-dead-apparent-suicide

RTWT. Note the bit about emergency oxygen systems failing to deploy. Wonder if this is passenger or flight crew oxygen?

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 1:36 pm

and others like Texas could never legally secede

Disagree.

Texas was a country before it joined the Union. It could secede today if it wanted too/was pissed of enuf’ wiv’ the Dickheads in Washington DC (Dickhead Capital)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2024 1:39 pm

Suppression lifted: Laura Allam faces kidnap, assault charges

By john ferguson
Associate Editor
and tricia rivera
Journalist
1:31PM March 12, 2024

The national anti-Israel protest movement has been rocked by abduction and assault charges against one of its highest profile campaigners.

Magistrate Carolyn Howe on Tuesday lifted a suppression order relating to Laura Allam, who has had a national profile fighting for the Palestinian cause.

She has been charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, common law assault, unlawful assault by kicking and unlawful assault.

Another man, Mohammad Sharab, has been charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, threats to kill, intentionally causing injury and unlawful assault.

It relates to the alleged abduction last month in Melbourne of a man.

Ms Allam and Mr Sharab will face Melbourne Magistrates Court on May 31

Ms Allam headlined a Palestine to Parliament rally a month ago alongside three Greens senators and others.

She also has been high profile in the pro-Palestinian campaign scene in Melbourne, praising outspoken left wing writer Clementine Ford’s position on the Middle-East war.

Ms Ford has since distanced herself from Ms Allam.

Ms Allam recently posted on Instagram re Ford: “Love the girl.”

Ford responded: “I love YOU.’’

Magistrate Howe recently issued a suppression order preventing the identification of Ms Allam but that was lifted on Tuesday.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 12, 2024 1:40 pm

I see JC is trolling again.

Can’t be said enough but he is the king of the dickheads on this blog.

132andBush
132andBush
March 12, 2024 1:43 pm

You want subsidies to continue for all your pet projects,

Name one, Monty.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
March 12, 2024 1:44 pm

Blockquote warning, with repetition too, apres ZK2A

Bad blood derails WA colony Albany’s bicentenary

EXCLUSIVE
By paige taylor [sic… what’s going on, Paige?]
Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
11:53PM March 11, 2024
173 Comments

Commemorations for the bicentenary of Western Australia’s first colony are in crisis because of bad blood between senior Menang Noongar people of the state’s south coast and the City of Albany in the federal electorate where 76 per cent of residents voted No in the voice referendum last October.
“Bad Blood” is a long-term grudge. No evidence of that, in fact Albany is as genuflective as anywhere else in this Surrenderland.

The city and its publisher, UWAP, have shelved a book to commemorate the 200th anniversary of Edmund Lockyer’s arrival in Albany after the only commissioned Indigenous contributor, senior Menang Noongar man Harley Coyne, withdrew from the project. Other commissioned ­authors followed.
I hope they refunded their advances in full. But I would be surprised.

The book was going to be the centrepiece of the bicentenary with around 14 commissioned authors paid an advance for a chapter in their field of expertise. However, in an email obtained by The Australian, the City of Albany’s arts and culture manager, Paul ­Nielsen, told the authors the project was being paused.
How do you say “book” in Nyungar?
“The ‘pause’ is effectively in place from now … Given the current situation that we have discussed here, along with numerous recent conversations between the city and a range of elders, coupled with the current stage of overall bicentenary planning, this has been deemed the only prudent course of action at this time,” Mr Nielsen wrote in his email to the authors.

“Now is not the time to try and press on with establishing an appropriate cultural oversight approach for the book; we need to give our Noongar community time.”
When is the time?
What is appropriate cultural oversight? Because right now, it looks like total veto powers.

The Australian has been told there were points of tension between key Noongar leaders and the city throughout 2023, in part because they felt the city only consulted them when required for grant applications.
Hurts not to be consulted on merit, dunnit?
As well, the voice debate was especially fraught in WA where No proponents skilfully […or more accurately, simply] linked the proposal for an advisory body with existing […or, more accurately, brand new and unprecedented] state legislation to protect Aboriginal cultural heritage. The cultural heritage laws were more permissive […but mainly totalitarian] than the ones they replaced because they introduced broad exemptions for homeowners, industry and farmers [yeah, nah. Farmers were especially shafted. Quarter acres and mining leases, not so much.] but the rollout was a shambles and this played into the hands of opponents [disinfectant powers of daylight, eh?]. The backlash to the laws was so ferocious [I can’t remember any parliament foyers being set on fire. Was Twitter even ablaze?] that some Aboriginal groups were relieved when the laws were scrapped just weeks after they came into effect.
.… only after the FIFO Barons gave McGowan a quiet reaming.
Senior Menang Noongar man Ken Kelly watched as bipartisan support for the cultural heritage laws disintegrated into a brawl over the voice [false non sequitur… plus I can’t remember the anaemic opposition being either bipartisan or brawling]. Some of the things people said at public meetings really stung. Some Menang Noongars began to question how they were perceived by people they had known their whole lives, what civic leaders thought of them, and even whether their local council respected them [hurts realizing you’re not being consulted on merit, dunnit?]. “How a lot of people really feel about us as Aboriginal people came out as a negative in the lead-up to the voice referendum,” Mr Kelly said.
Funny the “as Aboriginal people” angle never came out at the footy, at school or at work. It’s almost as if the Voice was a massive divisive mistake.

The City of Albany’s preparations for a bicentenary book ran into trouble about this time. Local elders Lester Coyne and his sister Vernice Gillies opted not to perform Welcome to Country [winning!] for the council anymore [you had a good earner for a long time with a made-up puppet show… afuera! time long due if you ask me.].

Albany was settled in 1826, three years before Perth, and it is sometimes described as a “friendly frontier” because Noongar people were already accustomed to visitors, including French whalers. The famous collaboration between Albany’s first government resident Alexander Collie and ­Menang leader Mokare has supported this perception.

An archive [is that the right word?] of Australia’s frontier massacres published by the University of Newcastle claims [now yes, that is the right word] that tensions between pastoralists and Aboriginal people emerged relatively fast and that the Ravensthorpe massacre happened east of Albany in 1880 when pastoralists were given licence to shoot natives for one month following the murder of a white farmer.
Citation needed. Seriously. The cold packet soup of that unlovely sentence should tip you off that we’re being asked to swallow something dodgy.
[Genetically] Noongar [fiction] author Kim Scott, a Miles Franklin [fiction] winner, portrayed [fiction] the complex relationship between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people in the region in his [fiction] novel That Deadman Dance.
What’s Nyoongar for ‘author”?
What’s Nyoongar for ‘write”?
Count your blessings, Professor of English.

“Much is made of Albany’s so-called ‘Friendly Frontier’. But I think ‘betrayal’ is a more accurate label for our history on the south coast,” he told The Australian.
Seat the professor next to Lydia Thorpe next time they’re getting an award, sound like they’ll get on just fine.
“Betrayal of First People’s deep humanity and cross-cultural sophistication, and the squandering of hope and promise in the face of greed and fear.”
And put Marcia Langton on the other side. Ooh, she’s probably MCing an air conditioned Writers’ Festival somewhere, sorry, forgot.
Albany’s new mayor Greg Stocks, who was elected in October, said the City of Albany was committed to walking with the Menang Noongar community.
Walking?
Crawling.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 1:45 pm

No one who has had a kidney stone would be making jokes about them. Mine were relatively small, luckily. I can only imagine the agony of a serious one.

Hurts like childbirth, they say. Mind you, not a debate you want to start with any nearby mothers.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 1:46 pm

Rooster,

You’re the biggest old woman on the site and one of the worst concern trolls, so STFU.

You’ve been referring to this or that article for years now and still unable to provide a link, because you’re an incompetent dickweed with the personality of an turnip. Learn to link or stop referring to articles.

Seriously, it’s been well over a decade now and still unable to copy and paste a freaking link. If you’re too incompetent to learn one of the most basic things, why are you posting on blogs?

Crossie
Crossie
March 12, 2024 1:49 pm

I note South Australia is now touting for VIC businesses to migrate, citing lower costs of business including energy.

Would that be the energy they are buying from NSW and Queensland and even Victoria on occasion?

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 1:56 pm

Would that be the energy they are buying from NSW and Queensland and even Victoria on occasion?

Apparently so.

Goes to show what a basket case VIC is.

VIC Chamber of Commerce chief gave a speech last week in which he said energy costs keep VIC business owners awake at night.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 1:59 pm

“personality of an turnip. Learn”

Yes. Learn some English you self appointed Blog Milk Monitor AND Pompous Windbag.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:02 pm

VIC Chamber of Commerce chief gave a speech last week in which he said energy costs keep VIC business owners awake at night.

Just a couple of examples.

1. Land tax on real estate owned under a corporate name went up by up to 50% last year.

3. Work Cover went up by about the same.

All Hunchback’s work before he left.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 2:03 pm

Neglecting ANY ONE of the above will skew the results. Neglecting ALL of them (as is most likely) make their LCOE calculations the worst advice you could possibly give.

You only have to look at America, that bastion of laissez-faire capitalism, to see that nukes are hopeless and helpless as a new investment vehicle these days.

What few new nuke plants that have been announced have been scrapped before they launched after massive cost and time blowouts. Meanwhile, scores of less ambitious but more achievable solar and wind projects have been coming online, some well inside twelve months.

Your sums may look good on paper if you torture them long enough, but in the real world they mean nothing. Show me a SMR factory in operation. You can’t. It doesn’t exist.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:04 pm

Oh look, Worddenhead picked up a typo. The most interesting comment he’s posted for the past month.

Thanks for the heads up wods, you filthy old crook.

Zafiro
Zafiro
March 12, 2024 2:08 pm

North Face = Dan Andrews in my mind. Well heeled eco-leftoids are obviously their target demographic, or else someone from that company would have told him to stop wearing it. They were probably giving him a sling.

For those outside Victoria, he wore a North Face jacket often when giving his daily COVID mumbo jumbo and death count.

“A 93 year old man, a 94 year old man, a 97 year old woman’ etc.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 2:09 pm

Bourne1879
Mar 12, 2024 1:40 PM
I see JC is trolling again.

Can’t be said enough but he is the king of the dickheads on this blog.

Many. many Up Thumbs.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:11 pm

You only have to look at America, that bastion of laissez-faire capitalism, to see that nukes are hopeless and helpless as a new investment vehicle these days.

What few new nuke plants that have been announced have been scrapped before they launched after massive cost and time blowouts. Meanwhile, scores of less ambitious but more achievable solar and wind projects have been coming online, some well inside twelve months.

Your sums may look good on paper if you torture them long enough, but in the real world they mean nothing. Show me a SMR factory in operation. You can’t. It doesn’t exist.

Fatboy, a material part of the cost of establishing a nuclear plant in the US is meeting regulatory demands. Then, it could take up to a decade to gain approval. Regulation comprises federal, State and local.

Here’s a summary

Constructing a nuclear power plant in the US grapples with significant regulatory hurdles, contributing to a hefty chunk of the overall cost. Here’s a breakdown:

Total Cost: Recent estimates suggest the total cost (including construction, financing, etc.) ranges from $5,500 to $8,100 per kilowatt (kW) for a typical 1,100 MW plant, translating to a total cost of $6 billion to $9 billion [Synapse Energy].

Regulatory Costs: While the exact percentage isn’t readily available, sources point towards substantial contributions from regulations:
Licensing fees: Regulatory bodies charge around $60 million per reactor [World Nuclear Association].
Vendor costs: Supporting the licensing process adds another $180-240 million per design [World Nuclear Association].
Increased requirements: Stricter safety measures and potential design modifications due to regulations can inflate costs [Institute for Progress].

Beyond Construction: Regulatory influence extends beyond licensing fees. Stringent safety standards often necessitate incorporating specific equipment and procedures, impacting the overall cost structure.

Therefore, while a definitive percentage isn’t available, regulations undoubtedly add a considerable portion to the total cost of building a nuclear plant in the US. This cost inflation stems from factors like:

Licensing procedures: The licensing process itself can be lengthy and involve significant fees.
Enhanced safety measures: Implementing stricter safety protocols post-accidents like Chernobyl has driven up costs.
Potential redesign: Regulatory requirements may necessitate changes to the plant’s design during construction, leading to additional expenses.

It’s crucial to note that attributing the entire cost surge solely to regulations would be inaccurate. Other factors like:

Project management issues: Inefficiencies in managing the construction project can lead to cost overruns.
Miscalculations: Underestimating initial costs can significantly impact the final bill.
Financing expenses: The interest accrued during the extended construction period due to regulatory delays adds to the financial burden.

Factory built plants will mitigate a great deal of the cost as it will be spread out.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 2:14 pm

Really really RTWT article from a Harvard epidemiologist fired during the wu-flu hysteria.

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I am no longer a professor of medicine at Harvard. The Harvard motto is Veritas, Latin for truth. But, as I discovered, truth can get you fired. This is my story—a story of a Harvard biostatistician and infectious-disease epidemiologist, clinging to the truth as the world lost its way during the Covid pandemic.

On March 10, 2020, before any government prompting, Harvard declared that it would “suspend in-person classes and shift to online learning.” Across the country, universities, schools, and state governments followed Harvard’s lead.

Yet it was clear, from early 2020, that the virus would eventually spread across the globe, and that it would be futile to try to suppress it with lockdowns. It was also clear that lockdowns would inflict enormous collateral damage, not only on education but also on public health, including treatment for cancer, cardiovascular disease, and mental health. We will be dealing with the harm done for decades. Our children, the elderly, the middle class, the working class, and the poor around the world—all will suffer.

Schools closed in many other countries, too, but under heavy international criticism, Sweden kept its schools and daycares open for its 1.8 million children, ages one to 15. Why? While anyone can get infected, we have known since early 2020 that more than a thousandfold difference in Covid mortality risk holds between the young and the old. Children faced minuscule risk from Covid, and interrupting their education would disadvantage them for life, especially those whose families could not afford private schools, pod schools, or tutors, or to homeschool.

What were the results during the spring of 2020? With schools open, Sweden had zero Covid deaths in the one-to-15 age group, while teachers had the same mortality as the average of other professions. Based on those facts, summarized in a July 7, 2020, report by the Swedish Public Health Agency, all U.S. schools should have quickly reopened. Not doing so led to “startling evidence on learning loss” in the United States, especially among lower- and middle-class children, an effect not seen in Sweden.

Sweden was the only major Western country that rejected school closures and other lockdowns in favor of concentrating on the elderly, and the final verdict is now in. Led by an intelligent social democrat prime minister (a welder), Sweden had the lowest excess mortality among major European countries during the pandemic, and less than half that of the United States. Sweden’s Covid deaths were below average, and it avoided collateral mortality caused by lockdowns.

Yet on July 29, 2020, the Harvard-edited New England Journal of Medicine published an article by two Harvard professors on whether primary schools should reopen, without even mentioning Sweden. It was like ignoring the placebo control group when evaluating a new pharmaceutical drug. That’s not the path to truth.

That spring, I supported the Swedish approach in op-eds published in my native Sweden, but despite being a Harvard professor, I was unable to publish my thoughts in American media. My attempts to disseminate the Swedish school report on Twitter (now X) put me on the platform’s Trends Blacklist. In August 2020, my op-ed on school closures and Sweden was finally published by CNN—but not the one you’re thinking of. I wrote it in Spanish, and CNN–Español ran it. CNN–English was not interested.

I was not the only public health scientist speaking out against school closures and other unscientific countermeasures. Scott Atlas, an especially brave voice, used scientific articles and facts to challenge the public health advisors in the Trump White House, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Anthony Fauci, National Institutes of Health director Francis Collins, and Covid coordinator Deborah Birx, but to little avail. When 98 of his Stanford faculty colleagues unjustly attacked Atlas in an open letter that did not provide a single example of where he was wrong, I wrote a response in the student-run Stanford Daily to defend him. I ended the letter by pointing out that:

Among experts on infectious disease outbreaks, many of us have long advocated for an age-targeted strategy, and I would be delighted to debate this with any of the 98 signatories. Supporters include Professor Sunetra Gupta at Oxford University, the world’s preeminent infectious disease epidemiologist. Assuming no bias against women scientists of color, I urge Stanford faculty and students to read her thoughts.

None of the 98 signatories accepted my offer to debate. Instead, someone at Stanford sent complaints to my superiors at Harvard, who were not thrilled with me.

I had no inclination to back down. Together with Gupta and Jay Bhattacharya at Stanford, I wrote the Great Barrington Declaration, arguing for age-based focused protection instead of universal lockdowns, with specific suggestions for how better to protect the elderly, while letting children and young adults live close to normal lives.

With the Great Barrington Declaration, the silencing was broken. While it is easy to dismiss individual scientists, it was impossible to ignore three senior infectious-disease epidemiologists from three leading universities. The declaration made clear that no scientific consensus existed for school closures and many other lockdown measures. In response, though, the attacks intensified—and even grew slanderous. Collins, a lab scientist with limited public-health experience who controls most of the nation’s medical research budget, called us “fringe epidemiologists” and asked his colleagues to orchestrate a “devastating published takedown.” Some at Harvard obliged.

A prominent Harvard epidemiologist publicly called the declaration “an extreme fringe view,” equating it with exorcism to expel demons. A member of Harvard’s Center for Health and Human Rights, who had argued for school closures, accused me of “trolling” and having “idiosyncratic politics,” falsely alleging that I was “enticed . . . with Koch money,” “cultivated by right-wing think tanks,” and “won’t debate anyone.” (A concern for those less privileged does not automatically make you right-wing!) Others at Harvard worried about my “scientifically inaccurate” and “potentially dangerous position,” while “grappling with the protections offered by academic freedom.”

Though powerful scientists, politicians, and the media vigorously denounced it, the Great Barrington Declaration gathered almost a million signatures, including tens of thousands from scientists and health-care professionals. We were less alone than we had thought.

Even from Harvard, I received more positive than negative feedback. Among many others, support came from a former chair of the Department of Epidemiology—a former dean, a top surgeon, and an autism expert, who saw firsthand the devastating collateral damage that lockdowns inflicted on her patients. While some of the support I received was public, most was behind the scenes from faculty unwilling to speak publicly.

Two Harvard colleagues tried to arrange a debate between me and opposing Harvard faculty, but just as with Stanford, there were no takers. The invitation to debate remains open. The public should not trust scientists, even Harvard scientists, unwilling to debate their positions with fellow scientists.

My former employer, the Mass General Brigham hospital system, employs the majority of Harvard Medical School faculty. It is the single largest recipient of NIH funding—over $1 billion per year from U.S. taxpayers. As part of the offensive against the Great Barrington Declaration, one of Mass General’s board members, Rochelle Walensky, a fellow Harvard professor who had served on the advisory council to NIH director Collins, engaged me in a one-directional “debate.” After a Boston radio station interviewed me, Walensky came on as the official representative of Mass General Brigham to counter me, without giving me an opportunity to respond. A few months later, she became the new CDC director.

At this point, it was clear that I faced a choice between science or my academic career. I chose the former. What is science if we do not humbly pursue the truth?

In the 1980s, I worked for a human rights organization in Guatemala. We provided round-the-clock international physical accompaniment to poor campesinos, unionists, women’s groups, students, and religious organizations. Our mission was to protect those who spoke up against the killings and disappearances perpetrated by the right-wing military dictatorship, which shunned international scrutiny of its dirty work. Though the military threatened us, stabbed two of my colleagues, and threw a hand grenade into the house where we all lived and worked, we stayed to protect the brave Guatemalans.

I chose then to risk my life to help protect vulnerable people. It was a comparatively easy choice to risk my academic career to do the same during the pandemic. While the situation was less dramatic and terrifying than the one that I faced in Guatemala, many more lives were ultimately at stake.

While school closures and lockdowns were the big controversy of 2020, a new dispute emerged in 2021: the Covid vaccines. For more than two decades, I have helped the CDC and FDA develop their post-market vaccine safety systems. Vaccines are a vital medical invention, allowing people to obtain immunity without the risk that comes from getting sick. The smallpox vaccine alone has saved millions of lives. In 2020, the CDC asked me to serve on its Covid-19 Vaccine Safety Technical Work Group. My tenure didn’t last long—though not for the reason you may think.

The randomized controlled trials (RCTs) for the Covid vaccines were not properly designed. While they demonstrated the vaccines’ short-term efficacy against symptomatic infection, they were not designed to evaluate hospitalization and death, which is what matters. In subsequent pooled RCT analyses by vaccine type, independent Danish scientists showed that the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) did not reduce short-term, all-cause mortality, while the adenovirus-vector vaccines (Johnson & Johnson, Astra-Zeneca, Sputnik) did reduce mortality, by at least 30 percent.

I have spent decades studying drug and vaccine adverse reactions without taking any money from pharmaceutical companies. Every honest person knows that new drugs and vaccines come with potential risks that are unknown when approved. This was a risk worth taking for older people at high risk of Covid mortality—but not for children, who have a minuscule risk for Covid mortality, nor for those who already had infection-acquired immunity. To a question about this on Twitter in 2021, I responded:

Thinking that everyone must be vaccinated is as scientifically flawed as thinking that nobody should. COVID vaccines are important for older high-risk people and their care-takers. Those with prior natural infection do not need it. Nor children.

At the behest of the U.S. government, Twitter censored my tweet for contravening CDC policy. Having also been censored by LinkedIn, Facebook, and YouTube, I could not freely communicate as a scientist. Who decided that American free-speech rights did not apply to honest scientific comments at odds with those of the CDC director?

I was tempted just to shut up, but a Harvard colleague convinced me otherwise. Her family had been active against Communism in Eastern Europe, and she reminded me that we needed to use whatever openings we could find—while self-censoring, when necessary, to avoid getting suspended or fired.

On that score, however, I failed. A month after my tweet, I was fired from the CDC Covid Vaccine Safety Working Group—not because I was critical of vaccines but because I contradicted CDC policy. In April 2021, the CDC paused the J&J vaccine after reports of blood clots in a few women under 50. No cases were reported among older people, who benefit the most from the vaccine. Since there was a general vaccine shortage at that time, I argued in an op-ed that the J&J vaccine should not be paused for older Americans. This is what got me in trouble. I am probably the only person ever fired by the CDC for being too pro-vaccine. While the CDC lifted the pause four days later, the damage was done. Some older Americans undoubtedly died because of this vaccine “pause.”

Bodily autonomy is not the only argument against Covid vaccine mandates. They are also unscientific and unethical.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/harvard-tramples-the-truth
With a genetic condition called alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency, which leaves me with a weakened immune system, I had more reason to be personally concerned about Covid than most Harvard professors. I expected that Covid would hit me hard, and that’s precisely what happened in early 2021, when the devoted staff at Manchester Hospital in Connecticut saved my life. But it would have been wrong for me to let my personal vulnerability to infections influence my opinions and recommendations as a public-health scientist, which must focus on everyone’s health.

The beauty of our immune system is that those who recover from an infection are protected if and when they are re-exposed. This has been known since the Athenian Plague of 430 BC—but it is no longer known at Harvard. Three prominent Harvard faculty coauthored the now infamous “consensus” memorandum in The Lancet, questioning the existence of Covid-acquired immunity. By continuing to mandate the vaccine for students with a prior Covid infection, Harvard is de facto denying 2,500 years of science.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 2:15 pm

All Hunchback’s work before he left.

I just perused Jacinta Allan’s bio…joined the ALP at 19 and became the youngest MP ever at 25 and has now been in parliament for 25 years. Was a member of the VIC ‘Crisis Council of Cabinet’ during covid. Belongs to Andrews’ Socialist Left faction. More of the same and possibly even worse…hence Standard & Poors’ warning.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:15 pm

Johnny Rotten
Mar 12, 2024 2:09 PM

Bourne1879
Mar 12, 2024 1:40 PM
I see JC is trolling again.

Can’t be said enough but he is the king of the dickheads on this blog.

Many. many Up Thumbs.

Post some more Marty for us, Wodney, you economically illiterate limey crook. In the entire month, the most interesting thing you’ve posted is a typo correction. You low rent little crook.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 2:15 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 2:04 PM

Hey, you Wooden Top. Get along to SpecSavers. You are so one eyed you should be called Cyclops.

More Marty to come. And I’m so glad that those posts get right up your nose. It is a Big Fat Nose after all with plenty of room to hold those Martin Armstrong posts.

On a Big Fat Face on a short arse tubby bjubby body. With short legs.

Tosser.

m0nty
m0nty
March 12, 2024 2:16 pm

Factory built plants will mitigate a great deal of the cost as it will be spread out.

No they wouldn’t. There would still be regulations to protect the public. Economies of scale from production are largely unrelated to the regulatory environment.

If your sums only work when Dutton storms into office on a nuke-powered landslide and repeals all red tape to put a C.Montgomery Burns nuke plant in every marginal electorate… you’re going to be waiting a while.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 2:18 pm

She has been charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, common law assault, unlawful assault by kicking and unlawful assault.

But not hate crime or terrorism.
Funny how that works.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 2:21 pm

Post some more Marty for us, Wodney, you economically illiterate limey crook. In the entire month, the most interesting thing you’ve posted is a typo correction. You low rent little crook.

For the one millionth time – Where is your evidence of me being a crook? You Fat Mafioso Bully Girly you. Either provide the evidence or STFU and go to another Blog or Bog.

Tosser.

cohenite
March 12, 2024 2:22 pm

Kneel
Mar 12, 2024 1:25 PM

Excellent summary, a repeat of my earlier post. Levelised costing is for dickless morons who winge about kidney stones because that is the closest to a testicle they’ll have.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 2:23 pm

She has been charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, common law assault, unlawful assault by kicking and unlawful assault.

LOL, Monty. The Chinese are building multiple nuke plants, which they can complete in five years lately. They hope to get it down to four years. They’ve already commissioned their first advanced pebble bed reactor. I thought you liked the Chinese seeing that they are your ideological comrades?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 2:25 pm

Oops, that was meant to be a quote of Monty at 2.03pm which didn’t take for some reason. I should look at what I pasted before I hit button.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 2:25 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 12:04 PM
Faulty alert

Another quality post by the imposter. The best in a long time.

The Stoush Nurse has just woken up. LOL.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:25 pm

No they wouldn’t. There would still be regulations to protect the public. Economies of scale from production are largely unrelated to the regulatory environment.

The regulation would be done up front. If states don’t sign up, then tough shit, they won’t access cheap energy.

If your sums only work when Dutton storms into office on a nuke-powered landslide and repeals all red tape to put a C.Montgomery Burns nuke plant in every marginal electorate… you’re going to be waiting a while.

I’m unsure if he will be able to get through. I’m not as optimistic as you that he won’t. Having said that then we will have to de-industrialize further because propellers on sticks and plastic panels aren’t going to provide enough energy for an industrial society.

Economies of scale would also apply to reg costs for factory built reactors, you ridiculous overweight oaf. Those costs will be spread out against production.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 2:26 pm

She has been charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, common law assault, unlawful assault by kicking and unlawful assault.

It’s probably been deleted by now but in a social media post following the alleged incident Allam portrayed herself as the victim. I gather this had something to do with the absurd suppression order. A third person has now been charged, btw.

amortiser
amortiser
March 12, 2024 2:28 pm

m0nty
Mar 12, 2024 1:45 PM
No one who has had a kidney stone would be making jokes about them. Mine were relatively small, luckily. I can only imagine the agony of a serious one.

Hurts like childbirth, they say. Mind you, not a debate you want to start with any nearby mothers.

Of course you can make jokes about them especially references to the pain of childbirth.

Women enthusiastically line up for multiple childbirths but happy returns for for kidney stones are, not surprisingly, non existent.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 2:30 pm

Complete quote fail…

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:32 pm

Johnny Rotten
Mar 12, 2024 2:25 PM

JC
Mar 12, 2024 12:04 PM
Faulty alert

Another quality post by the imposter. The best in a long time.

The Stoush Nurse has just woken up. LOL.

Imitation (repeating what I said about you) is the best form of flattery. You’re as original as a carton of milk, Wodney. You steal other people’s funnies and think Marty is a genius.

You’re lucky Dover has a liberal attitude. The old owner would’ve bounced a useless moron like you long ago, you worthless limey crook.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 12, 2024 2:32 pm

It would be of interest to the public to calculate the percentage of Chinese controlled investment in existing and planned renewables.
I might just ask AEMO when I speak to them.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 2:32 pm

And for the Stoush Nurse and followers –

Answering Questions

QUESTION #1: What is your opinion of Trump’s statement regarding the COVID vaccine: “YOU’RE WELCOME, JOE, NINE MONTH APPROVAL TIME VS. 12 YEARS THAT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN YOU!””

JN

ANSWER #1: I have a serious disagreement with Trump, and it bothers me that he has not expressed what so many now realize was wrong.

QUESTION #2: Do you think Trump was correct with North Korea and NATO?

PH

ANSWER #2: On those issues, yes, I would have to agree. If you refuse to negotiate with an opponent, you better be prepared for confrontation. The policy against North Korea was to use sanctions to PREVENT them from getting nuclear weapons. That policy was a huge mistake, for it only confirmed that they needed nuclear weapons. The US does not invade China or Russia because they have weapons, as does Iran. From that perspective, the only way to prevent a US invasion is to have nukes. This is the problem that has emerged with our Neocons, who are always engaged in regime change around the world. Now, North Korea has the nukes, so what good are the sanctions? They failed. The policy has to shift to preventing North Korea from using them.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/qa/answering-questions-3/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 2:35 pm

One of Australias most ridiculous bell ends tries for relevance.

Stephen Mayne
@MayneReport
Great to see MMT advocate Stephanie Kelton on Q&A – she’s absolutely right that Australia could print huge sums. Albo should print $70b and nationalise Transurban, providing enormous cost of living tolls relief in Melbourne, Brisbane and Sydney. You know it makes sense.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1767147467232198735

Also on the panel was the ex-treasurer/finance minister of Greece who was sacked as he was too much of a wastrel even for them.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:35 pm

Johnny Rotten
Mar 12, 2024 2:32 PM

And for the Stoush Nurse and followers –

Posting it out of spite. Typical lowrent, limey pos.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 2:39 pm

Also on the panel was the ex-treasurer/finance minister of Greece who was sacked as he was too much of a wastrel even for them.

Would that be the chap who used to teach at Western Sydney and counts Chris Bowen among his disciples?

bons
bons
March 12, 2024 2:40 pm

Irish non-government parties (the very few of them) are demanding that the Government repay the 20m euros spent on supporting the yes case in the latest referendum.

What amateurs you say; Albanese sprent $360m on his fake federendum.

Arr yes, but as is always the case with Ireland , things are not as they appear. Millions were poured into existing and faked up NGO’S who agressively, and at times threateningly promoted the scam. Labor have a hot to learn yet in the corruption game.

How they must miss not having the IRA to ‘promote’ their interests. The CFMEU just doesn’t cut it.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 2:47 pm

Dot:
Here’s a list of the dead and injured in Europe over the last 23 years.
Rivers of blood indeed.
You can’t ignore it, and you shouldn’t criticise people who try to make you aware of the depth of the problem. And this has nothing to do with how Enoch Powell’s speech is interpreted.
At base is the fact that Islam is conducting a war against our civilians and our society.
There have been 65 murders and wounding’s in Britain since 2001 by Muslims.
No other society would tolerate this degree of violence from a religion or cult without severe consequences to the offenders.
So mock away if you must, but ignoring peril has its own reward.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:48 pm

Would that be the chap who used to teach at Western Sydney and counts Chris Bowen among his disciples?

This idiot

Yanis Varoufakis

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:51 pm

Faulty alert.

Roger
Roger
March 12, 2024 2:51 pm

Varoufakis

That’s him…Uni of Sydney, not Western Sydney.

Taught Bowen economics.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 2:53 pm

Taught Bowen economics.

Is that true? Dear Lord, help us.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 2:56 pm

m0nty
Mar 12, 2024 1:45 PM
No one who has had a kidney stone would be making jokes about them. Mine were relatively small, luckily. I can only imagine the agony of a serious one.

Hurts like childbirth, they say. Mind you, not a debate you want to start with any nearby mothers.

IIRC, a few days before mUnturd passed one of his kidney stones, he had been making fun of a conservative who had either been ill, or had been attacked in the street. Then he came to the Old Cat, groveling for sympathy.

Bugger off, mUnturd.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 2:57 pm

Johnny Rotten

Mar 12, 2024 2:25 PM
JC
Mar 12, 2024 12:04 PM
Faulty alert

Another quality post by the imposter. The best in a long time.

The Stoush Nurse has just woken up. LOL.

JR, who is the Faulty alert? I originally thought it was someone who hasn’t posted here for ages, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. I assume the Stoush Nurse is JC, correct?

Spinning Mouse
Spinning Mouse
March 12, 2024 2:59 pm

The quack has echoed, repeat the quack has echoed, go to position magneta and look for the short Dutchman in an overcoat and deliver the package.

Frolicking mole, outstanding. If I had water in my mouth I would have snorted it down my shirtfront.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 3:01 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 2:35 PM

Still no evidence? You Farking Mafioso CROOK and FAT CROCK.

Keep posting you Imposter as you are so funny peculiar with the emphasis on “liar”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 3:03 pm

If your sums only work when Dutton storms into office on a nuke-powered landslide and repeals all red tape to put a C.Montgomery Burns nuke plant in every marginal electorate… you’re going to be waiting a while.

Progress! mUnturd has apparently abandoned his “radiation spewing” description, was it too scientifically illiterate even for him?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 12, 2024 3:04 pm

Taught Bowen economics.

Is that true? Dear Lord, help us.

Geez can you imagine the coursework.

‘Explain why financial prudence is a crime against humanity.
Bonus marks if you can show how Zimbabwe had had a money printing based boom economy for the last 30 years”

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 12, 2024 3:05 pm

PS, shirley that should have been a “C, m0nty Burns nuke plant”?

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 3:07 pm

Johnny Rotten
Mar 12, 2024 3:01 PM

The crooked limey wog who continually spams the site with the economically illiterate scrawl by a convicted fraudster, and refers to him as a top bloke, is calling other people gangsters. How about that.

Stick to typo corrections Wodney. It’s more interesting and it’s all your good for.

Indolent
Indolent
March 12, 2024 3:07 pm

Russell Brand

So, Now It Makes Sense

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 12, 2024 3:11 pm

On the economics scale, how many mutley’s per bowen are there? I’m not the brightest, but inquiring mind.

Vicki
Vicki
March 12, 2024 3:13 pm

Three prominent Harvard faculty coauthored the now infamous “consensus” memorandum in The Lancet, questioning the existence of Covid-acquired immunity. By continuing to mandate the vaccine for students with a prior Covid infection, Harvard is de facto denying 2,500 years of science.

While I don’t doubt that some future immunity is acquired against a current strain of Covid if you have contracted it, I can’t understand why one would believe that the natural immunity would be sustained against future mutations. After all, annual flu strains don’t provide natural immunity against contracting influenza in future years.

Many will question the efficacy of both RAT and PCR tests, I know. But husband and I are pretty certain that the second round of “Covid” a year after the first – was the real deal.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 3:16 pm

Florida: Muslim migrant chases couple on way to synagogue, screaming antisemitic slurs and threatening to kill them.
Ignoring them, Dot, won’t make them go away.
Austria: Nine Muslim migrant teens sexually abuse two teen girls, film the abuse.
Sweden: Four Muslims arrested for plotting jihad massacres
Swedish authorities, however, as you can see from the article below, hope to defuse this problem by abandoning the freedom of expression and outlawing Qur’an-burning.

Vicki
Vicki
March 12, 2024 3:17 pm

BTW one shouldn’t believe that there is consensus even amongst prominent anti-vaccine commentators – there isn’t. The venerable Dr. Peter MCullough, a staunch anti-vaccine campaigner, is attracting some criticism lately.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 3:20 pm

Winston Smith Avatar
Winston Smith
Mar 12, 2024 2:47 PM

Dot:
Here’s a list of the dead and injured in Europe over the last 23 years.
Rivers of blood indeed.
You can’t ignore it, and you shouldn’t criticise people who try to make you aware of the depth of the problem. And this has nothing to do with how Enoch Powell’s speech is interpreted.
At base is the fact that Islam is conducting a war against our civilians and our society.
There have been 65 murders and wounding’s in Britain since 2001 by Muslims.
No other society would tolerate this degree of violence from a religion or cult without severe consequences to the offenders.
So mock away if you must, but ignoring peril has its own reward.

That’s interesting. It has nothing to do with this.

It is now at the point that it will take a Pinochet style of government and “Rivers of Blood” to save Western civilisation.

That doesn’t logically follow and Trump was steering America back to normalcy, prosperity and peace before the COVID situation was exploited and the world ended up with an incompetent, thieving corpse and a cackling, vapid whore for US VP.

You’re not presenting the terrorism attack data very well either. If you compare the figures you give to the Muslim population and overall murder rate, they look like model citizens.

We don’t need another Pinochet and we don’t need rivers of blood.

No good can come of this. Look what the authoritarian left has done to us since early 2020 when they got to exercise unfettered power.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 12, 2024 3:20 pm

On the economics scale, how many mutley’s per bowen are there?

That’s a very scary question Ranga.
Not sure I’d like the answer myself.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 3:21 pm

Here, Dot is a list of the ways that Islam promotes itself as the Religion of Peace and the Most Feminine of Religions.
Educate yourself. These apologists are much cleverer than you or I.
Mind you – the basis of their cleverness is that it is permissible to lie to a non Muslim.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 3:21 pm

Junior Cretin and Pompous Windbag.

Go and argue with MontyPox Virus as he is still down at your level.

Tosser.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 3:23 pm

These apologists are much cleverer than you or I.

They can probably express their ideas more clearly than you.

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 3:25 pm

You’re a crook, Wodney. You promote a crook knowing full well he’s a convicted fraud. Just a lowrent limey crook.

Stick to typo corrections.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 3:27 pm

1 Angstrom = 100 picometres

1 Armstrong = 100 mn USD of fraud related loss

“Oh Bernie Madoff, he’d passed away in the clink for 500 Armstrongs

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 3:38 pm

Indolent, the link to the Jan 6th review:

“The mills of the Lord grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.”

It looks like the Jan 6th Commission has found a stumbling block in the form of a refusal to give the Trump defence essential information.
And look who is behind it – it’s Little Annie Fani!

JC
JC
March 12, 2024 3:43 pm

Turtlehead, what meds are you doing? I want to check out the side effects. I want to see if grandiose hyperbole is on the list.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 3:45 pm

Dot:

That’s interesting. It has nothing to do with this.

It is now at the point that it will take a Pinochet style of government and “Rivers of Blood” to save Western civilisation.

It has everything to do with it, Dot.
How do we stop the attacks on our citizens, our society and our culture? The enemy is implacable and they will do as they constantly proclaim “Kill those who insult the Prophet.”
There is no alternative to half measures, they aren’t working.
With Islam it’s “Surrender or Die.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2024 3:49 pm

Bruce of Newcastle at 1:16

I note South Australia is now touting for VIC businesses to

migrate

That’s like moving from North Korea to Venezuela.

Sign me up.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 3:50 pm

Dot
Mar 12, 2024 3:23 PM

These apologists are much cleverer than you or I.

They can probably express their ideas more clearly than you.

Most likely they can. I make absolutely no claims to ideological or intellectual superiority, but like the most Humble Peasant, I can tell when someone is selling me a dodgy idea as a wonderful thing.

cohenite
March 12, 2024 3:52 pm

They can probably express their ideas more clearly than you.

But not me; and Winston is right: islam is an existential threat not just to Western society but humanity. That’s existential as in turtle shells and shark livers; as bad as a gangrenous scrotum and TDS combined. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: if aliens with a black sense of humour wanted to destroy humanity they’d infect it with islam and a good dose of communism. They are viruses of the mind and once infected you are forever fuked; and I don’t mean in a John Keats good way.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 3:54 pm

JC

Mar 12, 2024 3:43 PM
Turtlehead, what meds are you doing? I want to check out the side effects. I want to see if grandiose hyperbole is on the list.

J.C:

Feb 24, 2024 12:34 AM
I’m drunk, unhappy and looking for a stoush.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2024 3:55 pm

Appointment with the Doc.
I’ll be back.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 12, 2024 3:56 pm

If your sums only work when Dutton storms into office on a nuke-powered landslide and repeals all red tape to put a C.Montgomery Burns nuke plant in every marginal electorate… you’re going to be waiting a while.

The Nuclear Free Staya sticker is peeling off your Datsun 120Y m0nster.
It’s not 1976 anymore.

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 3:58 pm

JC
Mar 12, 2024 3:43 PM

How about what Meds were prescribed for you and you are not taking? You Stoush Nurse you. Don’t like Doctor’s orders? Then off to the Loony Bin yer’ go. GO.

Dot
Dot
March 12, 2024 4:04 pm

cohenite Avatar
cohenite
Mar 12, 2024 3:52 PM

They can probably express their ideas more clearly than you.

But not me; and Winston is right:

I still don’t know how Pinochet and “Rivers of Blood” (the bad conclusion Powell wanted to avoid) saves us.

John H.
John H.
March 12, 2024 4:04 pm

I can’t understand why one would believe that the natural immunity would be sustained against future mutations.

MHC peptide presentation does not require the full protein. If the mutation doesn’t impact on that peptide presentation immunity against future mutations may occur.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-28898-1

Johnny Rotten
March 12, 2024 4:06 pm

If your sums only work when Dutton storms into office on a nuke-powered landslide and repeals all red tape to put a C.Montgomery Burns nuke plant in every marginal electorate… you’re going to be waiting a while.

LOL. The Feral Guv’ment (and the Taxpayer) already own a Nuclear Power Plant –

The Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation (ANSTO) operates Australia’s one and only nuclear reactor — the 20 MW (t) ‘OPAL’ research reactor at Lucas Heights, approx. 25kms south of the Sydney CBD.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=The%20Australian%20Nuclear%20Science%20and%20Technology%20Organisation%20(ANSTO)%20operates%20Australia%E2%80%99s%20one%20and%20only%20nuclear%20reactor%20%E2%80%94%20the%2020%20MW%20(t)%20%E2%80%98OPAL%E2%80%99%20research%20reactor%20at%20Lucas%20Heights%2C%20approx.%2025kms%20south%20of%20Sydney.&form=IPRV10

Lets have lots more and BIGGER ones.

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