Open Thread – Mon 25 March 2024


The Old Man and Death, Joseph Wright, 1774

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Oh come on
Oh come on
March 25, 2024 12:09 am

Indeed. The hope would have been they’d have been killed in the act, not interrogated by FSB.

Yes, the fact the terrorists didn’t take the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to claim their 76 virgins right then and there, righteously covered in the blood of the many slain infidel, strongly suggests these people weren’t Islamic fundamentalists.

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 25, 2024 2:11 am

Fresh from the narrative foundry:

Why is the Islamic State group ‘fixated’ on Russia and what is ISIS-K?

Utter bullshit.

Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 4:11 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
March 25, 2024 4:51 am

thanks again Tom

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
March 25, 2024 6:49 am

DB, Sundance from CTH has been saying for 24h he doesn’t think it is ISIS. He named about 4 countries that would have benefit of widening the war in Ukraine. Turkey seems to feature especially in the recruitment of these guys. Like you said be interesting to see where this goes..

shatterzzz
March 25, 2024 7:21 am
Min
Min
March 25, 2024 7:24 am

Too close to the truth with that painting Dover

Black Ball
Black Ball
March 25, 2024 8:03 am

Early morning funny courtesy of the Hun:

ABC chair Kim Williams has warned journalists that activism is not welcome at the taxpayer-funded broadcaster and if reporters fail to observe impartiality guidelines they should leave the organisation.

Mr Williams, who commenced as ABC chair two weeks ago after the conclusion of Ita Buttrose’s term, said he had little tolerance for reporters who failed to be objective and stressed the importance of staff always aspiring to be “fair-minded”.

“If you don’t want to reflect a view that aspires to impartiality don’t work at the ABC,” he said in a recent episode of the Fourth Estate podcast with host Monica ­Att“I really think this is a very serious issue.

“This is a publicly funded organisation, it is a publicly accountable organisation, it is a respondent to legislation to the national parliament and it must always aspire to be as fair-minded in its work as it possibly can be.”

In the 2022-23 financial year the ABC received $1.07bn in annual funding.

Under its editorial policies it has a statutory duty to ensure the gathering and presentation of news and information is impartial and it reflects the standards required for objective journIn the podcast, Mr Williams also highlighted the importance of public interest journalism.

“It needs to ensure that there is a very conscious movement to better reflect the panoply of Australian society and its journalistic workforce,” Mr Williams said.

“But that doesn’t give people a leave pass to abandon the aspiration to impartiality. That’s just not available for discussion nor should it be.”

In the candid 30-minute discussion with Attard, Mr Williams raised his concerns about the use of social media by ABC staff, which has at times been problematic for the organisation.

The ABC suffered damaging fallout in 2021 from a defamation action by former Liberal MP Andrew Laming against Four Corners journalist Louise Milligan, who falsely accused him on X, formerly Twitter, of upskirting a woman. That matter cost taxpayers more than $200,000, including $79,000 in damages.

“I have to say to you that I have a deep and abiding and growing scepticism about the value of social media,” Mr Williams said.

There’s a bit more in the article but you get the idea. I expect a few more poxy strikes from these vermin and a continued up yours to the public that pay their bloated wages.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
March 25, 2024 8:11 am

if reporters fail to observe impartiality guidelines they should leave the organisation.
Then they will be truly independent rather than tax-eating parasites.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
March 25, 2024 8:16 am

Rowan Dean has reacted to a clip of the “laughable” Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, talking about how climate change and democracy “don’t seem to work together”.
That might be the castro-intestinal effect popping up!

Indolent
Indolent
March 25, 2024 8:30 am

This is from the old thread last night. A very no nonsense person who has created a schematic of the entire situation we are facing. Global tyranny at a glance.

Who’s Really Behind The Great Reset (Not WEF) w/Ivor Cummins

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 25, 2024 8:33 am

I see the Goolag dictionary (whichever one they use) still lists only one definition for bloodbath.

A couple of weeks ago they still included its figurative uses, including its economic one.

Trying to redefine words to protect a lie.

KevinM
KevinM
March 25, 2024 8:33 am

For Steve S, Tartarian giants.

Screenshot-2024-03-25-082924
Dot
Dot
March 25, 2024 8:39 am

I still can’t believe that Jake Paul idiot is going through with his suicide by Mike Tyson get richer quick scheme.

Mike will make you his girlfriend, you stupid punk!

Indolent
Indolent
March 25, 2024 8:43 am

Never mind the conspiracies bit, his views on chemotherapy are worrying, to say the least.

Conspiracies, Cancer, Chemotherapy and Kate
Dr Vernon Coleman

Indolent
Indolent
March 25, 2024 8:48 am

This is from Tass. I’m sorry to say that it’s not outside the bounds of possibility, or even probability.

US recruiting IS jihadists for terrorist attacks in Russia and CIS, says intel agency

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 25, 2024 8:49 am

On the subject of bloodbaths,
I expect context will be making a sudden comeback.

Indolent
Indolent
March 25, 2024 8:52 am
amortiser
amortiser
March 25, 2024 8:54 am

rosie
 March 24, 2024 8:09 pm

I really want to go to the basilica of St Denis, I’ll wait until I’m travelling with someone else though.?

I visited the basilica of St Denis at Christmas 2007 with my wife and 3 teenage children.

It is of great significance as many French kings are buried in the crypt including Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette.

The walk to and from the metro station was the most nervous I have ever been in a foreign city. We just looked straight ahead making no eye contact with anyone.

The basilica must miss a huge amount of visitors because it is viewed as unsafe. A great pity considering it’s historical significance.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 25, 2024 8:57 am

ABC chair Kim Williams has warned journalists that activism is not welcome at the taxpayer-funded broadcaster

Tim Blair does a nice fisking of Mr Williams:

Monday Noticeboard (24 Mar, not paywalled)

Today’s notice board is brought to you by newly-appointed ABC chairman Kim Williams’s warning to the ABC’s activist staff. Which would be all of them.

The ABC is irredeemable, as Jonathan Shier could tell you. And his tenure was nearly a quarter century ago: the wretched hive of scum and villainy has gotten much worse since then.

m0nty
m0nty
March 25, 2024 9:01 am

A matter of hours before Tish James walks into Trump properties and says, “Mine.”

Mind you, she’s likely to encounter some banksters or Russian/Saud reps who have liens on those properties. I suspect we may find out Trump’s supposed wealth is tied up in a lot of debt.

m0nty
m0nty
March 25, 2024 9:03 am

I presume Alina Habba-Doo has some last-minute manoeuvres ready to go just before the deadline overnight. Not many options left, nevertheless.

Rabz
March 25, 2024 9:19 am

Did anyone see that that indescribable imbecile Joe Hildebeast go into a complete meltdown on Sky last evening, about the fact that labore weren’t importing tens of thousands of injun “tradies” quickly enough?

Liz Storer should have clobbered him.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 25, 2024 9:20 am

mUnty has raised self pleasuring to an art form. I’m sure they’ll get Trump this time.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 25, 2024 9:24 am

Tish James enjoying the last roundup of dissidents before the regime overthrow.
Some people are too thick and obsessed to read the mood of the times.
Orange will suit her.

Rabz
March 25, 2024 9:26 am

… raised his concerns about the use of social media by ALPBC staff, which has at times been problematic for taxpayers.

Fixed, Williams, you knobhead.

Crossie
Crossie
March 25, 2024 9:34 am

The ABC is irredeemable, as Jonathan Shier could tell you. And his tenure was nearly a quarter century ago: the wretched hive of scum and villainy has gotten much worse since then.

Last night on Sky Maurice Newman, a former Chairman of the ABC, also argued that the ABC is irredeemable in its current form. He said that those who want it can pay for it with subscriptions, that it is not right that everyone pays for it.

Winston Smith
March 25, 2024 9:44 am

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/french-govt-report-declares-child-sex-changes-could/
I wonder if the parents of these mutilated kids are aware their little creations will be deciding what kind of nursing home they will be going into when they’re frail and dependent on them, and who may just decide a just revenge for the parental abuse of their bodies just may lead their parents being put in a flea ridden flop house?

Zafiro
Zafiro
March 25, 2024 9:49 am

test

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2024 9:51 am

Stay classy, Herald Sun.

“Alleged killer’s hideout”

He lived in a HOUSE! How DARE he!

Now to avert suspicion in Victoria, you have to live naked, above the street, in a glass box, on the main boulevarde of Daylesford.

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132andBush
132andBush
March 25, 2024 9:54 am

Gez.

How are the stones going?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 25, 2024 10:02 am

Can you imagine the squealing of the fat freak slumlord if he was in court on “Trumped” up charges. Did the milko stay over last night?

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 25, 2024 10:06 am

Will his latest nonsense finally get Bruce Pascoe sacked as Melbourne University’s Professor of ‘Indigenous Agriculture’?

Fake Aboriginal Bruce Pascoe has already proved there’s almost no lie or fantasy about Aboriginal history – or his own – that’s too much for our politicians, academics, writers festivals and the ABC to swallow.

Yet he’ll now test their credulity to breaking point with a new book about his farm: Black Duck: A Year at Yumburra.

Pascoe writes that Aboriginals ran this country “perfectly for 100,000 years” – yes, 100,000 years – and to end their disadvantage we must “develop a truly Australian cuisine based on the old food production techniques”, and pay them for the produce.

Indeed, Pascoe boasts, “we actually perform these miracles” on his farm near Mallacoota.

As if. Let this book be the final test of our cultural elite that has promoted and protected Pascoe for so long, selling him as an Aboriginal when genealogical records show all his ancestors are of British descent, and showering him with praise and prizes for his fake history, Dark Emu, in which he falsely claims pre-colonial Aboriginals were really farmers living in houses in towns of 1000 people.

But let’s look at how Pascoe has rowed his boat out even further with this latest book, starting with his claim that Aboriginals were here for 100,000 years.

Pardon? Activists today boast Aboriginals were actually here for 65,000 years, taking strange pride in claiming this is the “oldest continuous culture on earth”, as if the rest of the world were losers for having seen the rise of great empires – the Egyptian, Chinese, Athenian, Roman, British – and been changed by all they discovered and built.

Hear it from the Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese: “The historic fact that Australia’s story is 65,000 years old remains a source of national pride and remains a fact.”

Well, actually, even 65,000 years of Aboriginal settlement isn’t really a “fact”.

It was long thought Aboriginals were here for no more than 45,000 years, until Professor Chris Clarkson and others claimed in 2017 to have found a hearth at Madjedbebe, in the Northern Territory, that showed the occupation of Australia by “modern humans out of Africa … began around 65,000 years ago”.

Pardon? Two papers since, by Professor Emeritus Jim Allen and by nine scientists led by Distinguished Professor Emeritus James O’Connell, say they don’t believe it.

Why was this 65,000-year date confirmed only by testing the sand grains around the hearth, and not the carbon residue? Why does no other site of Aboriginal occupation come within 15,000 years of this new date?

Hadn’t the hearth simply been settled deeper in very sandy soil, deeper into the older levels, by the heavy rainfall of tens of thousands of years of wet seasons, plus the burrowing of the termites so common there?

In fact, it’s generally accepted that human beings like us – and Aboriginals – with our telltale genes from interbreeding with Neanderthals spread across Eurasia from Africa and Southwest Asia only about 50,000 to 55,000 years ago.

A group of 18 Aboriginal men even had their DNA tested with Family Tree DNA, and found their common ancestor lived 65,000 years ago, and not in Australia but probably still in the Horn of Africa.

Still, facts never were Pascoe’s strong suit. He sells dreams, and this time he dreams Aboriginals will finally thrive when the rest of us eat “truly Australian cuisine”, and “think nothing of eating … kangaroo grass bread”. He and his family already “perform these miracles on the farm”.

Some miracle. Even if you like the taste of kangaroo grass, it still costs a fortune because its yields are so low. One kilogram of wheat flour at Coles costs just $1.40, but one kilogram of kangaroo and spear grass flour from Pascoe’s farm is $360 – despite charities and taxpayers giving Pascoe more than $2m to help make it.

But watch. Will his latest nonsense finally get Pascoe sacked as Melbourne University’s Professor of “Indigenous Agriculture”? Will the ABC now disown its hero?

Pascoe is testing again our cultural elite’s commitment to telling the truth. I’m betting on another fail.

Herald-Sun

132andBush
132andBush
March 25, 2024 10:08 am

Now to avert suspicion in Victoria, you have to live naked, above the street, in a glass box, on the main boulevarde of Daylesford.

Christopher Pyne can be heard shouting “Location, Location, Location!!”

Black Ball
Black Ball
March 25, 2024 10:11 am

Speaking of knobheads Rabz, there is an effort by some sports journalists to have a colleague released from jail in Russia. Sort of makes the FAG members trying to appeal to the Electoral College look like amateurs. Hun reporting but they have snippets of er, luminaries like:

Pat Cummins – Keep fighting for free speech and the integrity of journalism. We are thinking of you!

David Warner: I hold a greater respect for truth, importance of balance, fairness.

Peter V’landys: It’s deeply concerning to think you have been imprisoned unjustly for one whole year now for just doing your job. Journalism is not a crime.

There are a couple more but I will leave you with the flogs flog, Craig Foster:
Attacks on journalists, whenever and wherever they occur, grossly threaten our right to meaningfully participate in decision making.

Er Mr Foster, your role as a journalist is to provide information on the sport you are covering, not be involved in decision making of any kind, except to vote for one of your mates to accept some gong.
I’m sure Putin is quivering from these comments. Good Lord.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 10:17 am

The above Indolent comment reminds me.
People who take direct medical advice from blogs should use extreme caution.

A person who I won’t name, but was a commenter, and had been banned on the old Catallaxy, received medical advice from another commenter who ironically had also been banned from the old Catallaxy. The advice was to ignore medical guidance with taking medication for a serious illness. That person is now supposedly dead.

Be it chemotherapy or the COVID-19 vaccination, It doesn’t matter; a sick person should only consult their physician and never some prick from a blog.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2024 10:19 am

The TGA was giving warnings about fluoroquinolones back in 2019.

Hardly “bReAkiNG jOURnalISm!”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2024 10:39 am

A person who I won’t name, but was a commenter, and had been banned on the old Catallaxy, received medical advice from another commenter who ironically had also been banned from the old Catallaxy. The advice was to ignore medical guidance with taking medication for a serious illness. That person is now supposedly dead.

I remember that. A variant of ‘They made it all up!’, as I recall.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2024 10:42 am
shatterzzz
March 25, 2024 10:50 am

Proper policing .. Florida style .. LOL!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1771928327877492898

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 10:51 am

JC at 10:17.
As I said the other day, I had abominable surgery recently, and the surgeon removed a couple of tumours.
I asked him, “Were they turbo-charged tumours?”
“What are you talking about?” he replied. “No, they weren’t turbocharged, whatever that means”.
Next day he brings in some scans I had done five years ago for something else which he had dredged out of archives.
“See that there?” he says, pointing to a tiny spot on the image. “That was the very beginning of one of those tumours. Growing slowly for five years”.
I reckon it was photo-shopped as a cover up.
You can’t trust them.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 10:55 am

Never try “faulty” medical advice, Sanchez.

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2024 10:59 am

As I said the other day, I had abominable surgery recently, and the surgeon removed a couple of tumours.

See? SEE? Does it need spelling out?

Wake up you denialist traiTors!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 11:01 am

A person who I won’t name, but was a commenter, and had been banned on the old Catallaxy, received medical advice from another commenter who ironically had also been banned from the old Catallaxy

Yes, I remember that.
The person had a bunch of health issues and was highly susceptible to free advice from the innernet.
Specifically I think it was medication for kidney function which was the subject of the free advice, and I think the advice was also not to let on to the doctors that you are not taking the meds.
So you rush to ED with failing kidneys and lie about your medication, so the medicos are scratching their heads as to what is causing the failure.
Nek minnit, radio silence.
The morons still haven’t joined the dots I don’t think.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 11:03 am

The boundary umpire who allowed the goal which sunk Collingwood on Thursday night?
Ukrainian.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 11:07 am

JC
 March 25, 2024 10:55 am

Never try “faulty” medical advice, Sanchez.

I still remember a sharp intake of breath when the advice was dispensed.

Pogria
Pogria
March 25, 2024 11:09 am

Very interesting article about how the World’s semi-conductor industry hinges on a single Quartz factory in North Carolina.
This fact could be used as a powerful bargaining tool in the near future.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/the-worlds-semiconductor-industry-hinges-on-a-quartz-factory-in-north-carolina

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 25, 2024 11:09 am

Dick Smith has been a greenie for fifty years at least. In the seventies when he bought a property at John’s River one of the first things he did was regenerate a swamp that the previous farmer had drained. He was well liked and used to give our school items to raffle, from his shops including a heated toilet seat which amused us kids.

‘Disgusted’: Dick Smith accuses ABC Fact Check of ‘lies’ (Paywallian)

The businessman has slammed the RMIT ABC Fact Check unit saying his credibility has been damaged after it published a report ‘full of lies’ about nuclear energy.

So the ABC is now further left than even a life-long greenie. Good luck Mr Williams, you’ll need it.

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Dot
Dot
March 25, 2024 11:13 am

A person who I won’t name, but was a commenter, and had been banned on the old Catallaxy, received medical advice from another commenter who ironically had also been banned from the old Catallaxy. The advice was to ignore medical guidance with taking medication for a serious illness. That person is now supposedly dead.

Bird took advice off Jinmaro?

m0nty
m0nty
March 25, 2024 11:18 am

First off James’s office is likely to send out a letter of garnishment to every bank in New York and the US requiring them to freeze Trump’s bank accounts and to deliver the cash, bonds or possessions held in security deposit boxes to her office in New York.

Last week the New York attorney general’s office filed judgments in Westchester county, where Trump’s Seven Spring’s golf course and private estate is located, an indication that James is preparing to move on his real estate assets.

It would take Tish a long time to liquefy Trump’s assets, but in the meantime his cashflow would be severely curtailed if Habba-the-Jut can’t pull a last-minute legal rabbit out of the hat tomorrow.

Basically he would be laundering all his cash through the RNC. Which is nearly broke as it is, and doesn’t have much cash coming in as rich donors are not throwing good money after bad.

Things are looking crook for the Pumpkinator.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2024 11:25 am

XAUAUD

$3323.705 as we speak.

Oh my.

Last edited 2 months ago by dover0beach
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 25, 2024 11:50 am

For those here that have to come to canbra please note. Green traffic light means slow down coz its going to go red. Orange, put your foot down to get through before it goes red. Red, if its just gone red another 3 cars can go through. If slowing down to stop on an orange be prepared to be rear ended coz those 3 cars don’t want to stop coz rulz don’t apply to pubic serpents. Hope this helps.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 25, 2024 12:00 pm

Pascoe writes that Aboriginals ran this country “perfectly for 100,000 years” – yes, 100,000 years 

Currently listening to Sapiens as an audiobook. Aboriginals hunted 23 of 24 species of megafauna to extinction and irreversibly changed the flora of this country. Bruce is on pretty thin ground, as usual.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 25, 2024 12:08 pm

Pascoe writes that Aboriginals ran this country “perfectly for 100,000 years” – yes, 100,000 years 

He is just polishing up a work where he explains that a particular element of some myth records the Big Bang, which Aborigines observed.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 25, 2024 12:30 pm

So, does anyone have any confidence in the prospect of the new ABC CEO’s actions measuring up to his rhetoric?

Or is this just some tired ritual perfunctorily run through to a god they don’t believe in for a goal they have no intention of striving for?

It just seems impossible to rehabilitate the ABC. If it were a matter of cutting away diseased cankers from healthy tissue then that would be one thing. I think however that there is no healthy tissue and the ABC is rot and infection all the way through.

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amortiser
amortiser
March 25, 2024 12:36 pm

All Trump needs to do is squat on those properties. That will tie up her actions for years.

Lysander
Lysander
March 25, 2024 12:57 pm

The key States you need to win to become President and how the polls are looking:

Arizona
Latest CBS Poll: Trump +3

Georgia
Latest Bloomberg Poll: Trump +6 (note one recent poll showing Trump +18)

Michigan
Latest The Hill Poll: Trump +4

Nevada
Latest Bloomberg Poll: Trump +10

North Carolina
Latest USA Today Poll: Trump +5

Pennsylvania
Latest Nexstar, The Hill and Nextstar Polls: Trump +4

Wisconsin
Latest The Hill Poll: Trump +4

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2024 1:17 pm

COVID jab most likely

Snort.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 1:20 pm

How moronic were those Moscow terrorists? How fuking dense would you have to be to give yourself up to Russian cops after killing 140 innocents? Just put a bullet through your head and be done with it, because the slow death you’re going to endure is going to be really, really painful.

Lysander
Lysander
March 25, 2024 1:27 pm

There are a lot of people on Twitter saying the attack on Moscow was likely Mossad/US.

Wouldn’t you think that, even if there was a hint of US involvement, the Russian propaganda machine would be all over it?

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 1:40 pm

Kasparov has a point if you’re looking for state actors.

In the WSJ. Yes, I know he hates Putin.

Opinion

Commentary

Moscow Attack: Don’t Believe the Kremlin

In a heavily surveilled city, how could ISIS terrorists have killed for nearly an hour and driven away?

By

Garry Kasparov

March 24, 2024 2:41 pm ET

Friday’s terrorist attack at the Crocus City Hall concert venue near Moscow killed more than 100 people in a brutal crime against humanity. Many key facts are still unclear, and rest assured they will become only less clear as the Kremlin works to exploit the crisis domestically and abroad.

Coming shortly after his latest sham election, the attack gave dictator Vladimir Putin a rallying cry one day after the Kremlin declared for the first time that Russia is in a “state of war” in Ukraine.

Paranoia is my birthright, as it is for anyone born in the Soviet Union. But the official Kremlin story line is already a shambles. In one of the most surveilled cities on earth, where you can be arrested in 30 seconds for whispering “no war,” the terrorists continued their attack for more than an hour and then simply drove away.

The FSB, Russia’s state security service, claims to have arrested four suspects near Ukraine, at one of the most fortified borders in the world. Or did the suspects actually drive to Russian ally Belarus, as that nation’s ambassador to Russia said? Considering the amount of materiel and preparation required to do so much damage to a venue the size of a small village, it’s odd that the terrorists would suddenly turn into bungling amateurs by carrying their Tajik passports and heading to a militarized border.

Every official statement from the Kremlin and its propagandists will be a lie, with a few half-truths tossed in. It’s a control reflex of the security state of which Mr. Putin is a product. As I often say, I believe in coincidences, but I also believe in the KGB.

Mr. Putin angrily dismissed warnings from the U.S. Embassy on March 7 and March 18 about a potential terror attack at a concert venue in Moscow. (How did the U.S. know? Was it sources in ISIS-K or, as I suspect, moles in the FSB?) Then, on March 22, Mr. Putin issued orders to conscript hundreds of thousands more Russians for his war of conquest against Ukraine.

Twenty-five years ago, when then-Prime Minister Putin needed a platform for his presidential campaign, a series of terrorist apartment bombings in Russia launched the Second Chechen War. I laid out the copious evidence that these were false-flag attacks, staged by the FSB, in my 2015 book, “Winter Is Coming.” It’s a deed so shocking that it is difficult to believe—until you realize what sort of man Mr. Putin is. He has no allergy to blood, Russian or any other kind, if spilling it furthers his goals.

Twenty-five years ago, Mr. Putin grabbed power by committing mass murder in Chechnya. Today, in hope of staying in power, Mr. Putin is committing mass murder in Ukraine.

cohenite
March 25, 2024 1:42 pm

Dickless busy this morning, salivating like a fat pig. In other news why Trump is stuffed:

Wisconsin Investigators Allege Illegal Aliens Are Flooding the Voter Rolls in Swing States | The Gateway Pundit | by Guest Contributor

You have to give it to them: the demorats cheat so well.

Johnny rotten
March 25, 2024 1:46 pm

Today is Greece Independence Day.

Lysander
Lysander
March 25, 2024 1:48 pm

Interesting, from the Australian Electoral Act 1918:

(8) A person who:
 (a) by reason of being of unsound mind, is incapable of understanding the nature and significance of enrolment and voting is not entitled to have his or her name placed or retained on any Roll or to vote at any Senate election or House of Representatives election

So, Muntard, you’re not entitled to vote.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 1:56 pm

Take for example, the reticence of the NATO countries to delve into the actual perpetrator/s of the Nord Stream sabotage publicly.

This is about the third or fourth time you’ve used the Nordstream blow-up to somehow imply the terror attack is in someway connected to Western state actors. Except Nordstream didn’t kill 140 people and left 100s injured from bullet holes.

The one example you’ve steering well clear of is the accusation by Kasparov, and is closer to the mark if you’re looking for state actors.

Twenty-five years ago, when then-Prime Minister Putin needed a platform for his presidential campaign, a series of terrorist apartment bombings in Russia launched the Second Chechen War. I laid out the copious evidence that these were false-flag attacks, staged by the FSB, in my 2015 book, “Winter Is Coming.” It’s a deed so shocking that it is difficult to believe

Pretty much a given that Putin and the FSB were responsible then. Why not now?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 25, 2024 2:03 pm

Tanya Plebersuck should use the existing Environmental Laws to ban all Wind Towers and Solar Factories and the Transmission lines to ever be built. Shake up the Laybore Partee and become the next Opposition leader in 2025 when Tennis Elbow, Blackout Bowen, Tony the Burke, Dim Chalmers, The Immigration Minister knob head and many, many others (including the Commie Unions and Greens) lose power. Tosser Teals as well.

Then hopefully, Australia can get back to a proper First World class Electricity Grid powered by lots of coal, gas and uranium.
Not going to happen though until the Economy crashes and burns.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 25, 2024 2:15 pm
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Steve Trickler
Steve Trickler
March 25, 2024 2:16 pm

This is rough as guts.

Serpentza:

It’s Murder Season in China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDmhLlvQNU

shatterzzz
March 25, 2024 2:24 pm

 Many key facts are still unclear, and rest assured they will become only less clear as the Kremlin works to exploit the crisis domestically and abroad.

Given that this is now the standard operating practice thru-out the world nowadayz why would you expect Russia to behave any different..?
The rubbish that comes out of pro-Hamas Gaza is not only given world-wide media coverage it is also lapped up & officialized by western gummints ..
Kremlin exploitation .. meeeeeeeeeeeh!!

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 25, 2024 2:30 pm
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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 25, 2024 2:36 pm

ABC fact checking Dick Smith is going well. The fact checkers themselves fact checked and no surprise caught out.
Even Musk has commented on it.
Well done Dick Smith.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2024 2:44 pm

Alice springs beckons once again, in the pursuit of half-arsed smallgoodsery.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
March 25, 2024 2:46 pm

Sanch, good to hear they got the bad bits out-
re medical imaging, we’ve spent the last week looking at both xray and ct scans of my dog’s wonky legs, and I seriously can’t tell how the docs can pick out anything without simply years and years of experience, and even then, one will see something that another can’t, or more confusingly, interpret something 180 degrees from another interpretation. And we’re talking the relatively hard matter of bones and ligaments. If you’re looking for bogeys amongst soft tissue, muscle, membranes, organs and gizzards it must be like slicing a micron-thin slice of a meat pie and trying to figure out if the greyish-brown bit buried in all the other brownish-grey stuff is meat, earlobe, lip or gristle. Or mushroom. Or rat.
And then trying to guesstimate what roadhouse hot counter it came from, and when.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 2:58 pm

Why would Putin conduct a false flag after an election?

Hahahahhaha What election? The one where Putin received 87% of the vote? Don’t make people laugh.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 25, 2024 3:03 pm

Former special forces commando cleared of assault after ‘inconsistencies’ found in case

theaustralian.com.au09:41

By lauren ferri

  • Reporter

and clareese packer

  • Cadet Journalist
  • NCA NewsWire
  • Updated 2:03PM March 25, 2024, First published at 8:47AM March 25, 2024

Former special forces commando Heston Russell has been cleared of common assault after a magistrate declared he did not drunkenly punch a man at an inner Sydney pool party.
The 38-year-old had drank half a bottle of tequila at the Woolloomooloo party on January 2, 2022, before he threatened fellow partygoer Steven Pate, saying “I’m going to throw you over the balcony”.
But he denied punching Mr Pate during the heated incident, which took place at a Cowper Wharf Road rooftop pool party after the group had been on a Sydney Harbour yacht drinking since 11am.
Mr Russell, a one-time Senate candidate and veterans’ advocate, pleaded not guilty to one count of common assault and faced a two-day hearing last year.
Magistrate Margaret Quinn on Monday found him not guilty of the charge.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 25, 2024 3:26 pm

Going to have to read up on this Hare-Clarke abomination and how it works.

Maybe it should be renamed as – “Hair-Brained”.

JohnJJJ
JohnJJJ
March 25, 2024 3:28 pm

I hesitate to link this as it is graphic. So you may not want to see this. But this is the real world we are in now. It is the Tajik Jihadis in action. Allahu Akbar.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 3:29 pm

If the election/ public support didn’t matter why engage in a false flag? You’re undermining your own claim.

You brought the sham you called an election. You really don’t believe it was a fair election, do you? Please say you don’t.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 3:31 pm

Yes, Wally, scans are a great mystery to the layperson.
Still not convinced the slicer isn’t a shill for Big Pharma and just put a Texta dot on the old scan to throw me off the “turbocharged” line of enquiry.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 25, 2024 3:36 pm

Personally I think it is time Putin and Zelinsky sorted it out the old fashioned way. Trial by combat.

However to be fair no physical combat. Pistols at dawn. Or pick their ten toughest men each to fight UFC style. Televised naturally.

Lysander
Lysander
March 25, 2024 3:38 pm

Additionally,
I never realised that Nepal (which is net zero due to use of biofuels) had 42,000 people die in 2019 from low air quality… .caused by the burning of biofuels!!!

Lysander
Lysander
March 25, 2024 3:45 pm

Any Cats got a good reading site on the Kaimanawa Wall in NZ?

Controversial but suggests and ancient civilisation lived in NZ before the Maoris…

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 25, 2024 3:51 pm

Be it chemotherapy or the COVID-19 vaccination, It doesn’t matter; a sick person should only consult their physician and never some prick from a blog

Factoring in of course, the fact that ‘their physician’ is only allowed (upon threat of AHPRA sanction), to parrot official government propaganda (aka Pfizer approved information), and if they want impartial medical advice, they need to consult a de-registered Dr.

Crossie
Crossie
March 25, 2024 3:56 pm

Lysander

 March 25, 2024 1:27 pm

There are a lot of people on Twitter saying the attack on Moscow was likely Mossad/US.

I don’t see Israel doing the Americans any favours since they are practically taking Hamas’ side in the current Gaza war.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 25, 2024 4:02 pm

There are a lot of people on Twitter saying the attack on Moscow was likely Mossad/US.

Daniel Greenfield does a bit of Occam’s Razoring.

Putin Blames Everyone Except Islam for Islamic Terrorist Attack (24 Mar)

One thing not discussed by him or anyone else is the Islamists would just love to get a nuclear war going, so attacking Russia and fingering Ukraine/Mossad/CIA would be in character.

Roger
Roger
March 25, 2024 4:05 pm

If elections or public support doesn’t matter…

Elections matter, even if they’re rigged, else why hold them?

Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue.

Although hypocrisy would seem to be the least of Putin’s vices.

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rosie
rosie
March 25, 2024 4:09 pm

“, and if they want impartial medical advice, they need to consult a de-registered Dr.”
Really, and this deregistered doctor is going to be able to order tests, prescribe medication, organise referrals etc.
I know; they are so brilliant they can look at an internet photo of the age spots and discolouration on a nonagenarian’s hands two days before her death of old age and declare her death was really from ‘blood cancer’!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 4:10 pm

Factoring in of course, the fact that ‘their physician’ is only allowed (upon threat of AHPRA sanction), to parrot official government propaganda (aka Pfizer approved information), and if they want impartial medical advice, they need to consult a de-registered Dr.

If that holds true, it only applies to vax related issues.
The issue under discussion was a former poster here who I think had serious kidney issues, and another moron advised her to ditch her kidney meds and lie to the docs about the fact that she wasn’t taking the meds. There is zero Pfizer-Pfactor at play in that one.
We don’t know what happened, but she went from posting 24/7 on various sites to MIA overnight.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 4:14 pm

Seriously, Duk, leaving aside the Pfizer-Pfactor, would you, not being a specialist nephro-guy, advise someone sight unseen on a blog to ditch medication prescribed to counter kidney disease?
The point JC was making is that there are real world consequences of this sort of reckless “advice”, and the scepticism pendulum can swing too far.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2024 4:18 pm

The Kenyan athletic team are on their way home.
Changed their mind about competing in the Olympics?
Train to CDG went past a partially built stadium, with three months to go.
And they’ve messed with CDG, all the emirates/qantas flights have been moved to a big extension of terminal one, at least they now have a shuttle between the terminals, I went to all three!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
March 25, 2024 4:26 pm

Jeez, the Paris 2024 Olympics logo is apalling.
Transmits nothing about sport, athleticism, the nebulous “triumph of the human spirit” or even anything pagan cod-naive, a la Sydney, which albeit at least gave a sense of place.
If anything, it portrays a dangerous surrender to the cliche of the sexually precocious French girl.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 25, 2024 4:39 pm

For those that think Drs can read scans or X-rays well, think again. My case only, so many varied orthopaedic operations over my lifetime. The very first one 50 years ago the surgeon almost cancelled the operation coz I wasn’t in enough pain. Afterwards he said the X-rays hadn’t shown the extent of the damage. Rince and repeat every other operation since. Supposed one hour op on my shoulder resulted in a two hr op due to same. One and a half hour op on my neck ended up 5 1/2 hrs with one of the discs being mush. Didn’t show up on the MRI. TKR both legs the surgeon didn’t know how I could still walk with the meniscus being non-existent. Pain being subjective does make it difficult to assess the extent of injuries.

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2024 4:46 pm

‘Pain being subjective’

Preach it.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 4:49 pm

dover0beach

March 25, 2024 3:54 pm

You brought the sham you called an election. You really don’t believe it was a fair election, do you? Please say you don’t.

JC, focus. If elections or public support doesn’t matter than why engage in a false flag operation?


Saddam held “elections,” the Soviet Union held “elections,” and Putin’s buddies, Iran and China, hold “elections.” There’s nothing extraordinary about holding sham elections.

You’ve been the one bringing up state actors and pointing a half-hidden finger toward the West and Ukraine. 

The West wasn’t involved, and the likelihood of Ukraine being involved is also extremely low. If Ukriane’s Western backers found out, they would lose all support over something as evil as this. Having speculated about state actors, the individual, and the state intel apparatus that has a history of killing its own people, are the FSA and Putin in the attack mentioned earlier. Therefore, the only two likely scenarios would have to be ISIS and Putin. Take your pick.

Now, was the Russian election a sham, as you haven’t answered the question and keep skipping over?

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2024 4:51 pm

If anything, it portrays a dangerous surrender to the cliche of the sexually precocious French girl.

Advertising.

Our women are hotties, even with short hair.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2024 4:58 pm

At D-Town airport, boarding shortly.

Just paid for a cheeky pre-flight schooner. In cash.

The poor young bloke behind the jump acted as though I handed him a severed finger.

At the same time, several fighters were taking off.

Good times.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
March 25, 2024 5:01 pm

Is anyone able to post the piece by Janet A in the Oz?

It is the supreme irony that we may have been looking in the wrong place for possible political interference in the way law enforcement officers in the ACT conduct prosecutions of sexual assault cases. SUBSCRIBE to read more

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
March 25, 2024 5:03 pm

Lysander, i got the pos-neg visual pun. Whoop. A good graphic artist will do twenty of them for breakfast.
But the meaning it conveys is little more than “French Chicks are Hot”.
For extra irony, I’d like to superimpose it over the next rapey ramadanner attack.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 5:21 pm

GreyRanga
 March 25, 2024 4:39 pm

For those that think Drs can read scans or X-rays well, think again.

They are not high definition photographs. A degree of interpretation is required.
Also, as I learned a while back, not all scans are equal.
And, of course, there is nothing you can do if a turbo-tumour develops between the scan and the doctor’s visit.
I think “turbo-tumour” will become the go-to line for “Oops, shit, I missed it”.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 25, 2024 5:22 pm

Here you go BT:

?JANET ALBRECHTSEN
ACT Greens Attorney-General Shane Rattenbury faces significant questions over his #MeToo crusade

8:30PM MARCH 24, 2024
It is the supreme irony that we may have been looking in the wrong place for possible political interference in the way law-­enforcement officers in the ACT conduct prosecutions of sexual assault cases.

It was Shane Drumgold who first made explosive allegations that there had been political interference, specifically by Senator Linda Reynolds, in relation to the investigation and prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins.

Drumgold’s allegation was found by Walter Sofronoff KC to be utterly without merit. So much so that Drumgold was forced into a humiliating withdrawal of the allegations and Reynolds won a grovelling apology and damages from the ACT government when she sued it and Drumgold for defamation over the allegations.

Now, there are new and bigger questions. And the politician whose conduct deserves further investigation is ACT Attorney-General Shane Rattenbury.

Our news story raises significant questions.

By hauling the ACT Acting Director of Public Prosecutions Anthony Williamson SC into his office in late January, did Rattenbury expressly or impliedly use political influence to try to keep undeserving prosecutions alive?

That Rattenbury could have questioned Williamson about the discontinuation of sexual-assault cases at a time when he was ­actively considering whether Williamson should be appointed as DPP on a permanent basis is disturbing. Does the Attorney-General understand that the proper administration of justice demands that the DPP is an independent statutory office and must remain independent from the government and the politics of the day?

Why would Rattenbury question Williamson about the discontinuation of specific cases?

Was Rattenbury sending ­Williamson a message that he was watching discontinuations carefully and that it could be a factor in his choice of a permanent DPP?

Though Rattenbury says a selection panel, and cabinet, picked Victoria Engel SC as the new chief prosecutor for the ACT, does Rattenbury’s involvement mean that many might think the chosen person was regarded as more likely than other candidates to run as many sexual-assault cases as possible even if they have dubious prospects of success?

Discontinuation of sexual-­assault cases is not done lightly. There is a lengthy and robust process before any such decision is made. A discontinuation may, by far, be the best course of action not merely for those wrongly ­accused of sexual assault, but also because it spares complainants possible humiliation as well as avoiding the burden on our courts, police, jurors and lawyers caused by weak cases that should never have been brought.

Rattenbury is, of course, a member of the Greens, whose political base is full of activist ­feminists who trumpet the “believe all women” mantra and want much higher levels of prosecutions and convictions for ­sexual-assault cases. With ACT elections in ­October, no doubt Rattenbury will be mindful that many of his potential voters hate the discontinuation of sexual-assault prosecutions. Whether he goes too far to keep his base happy is the question that the public deserve to have answered.

This is a most serious issue all over the country. Judge Robert Newlinds, a NSW District Court judge, expressed the fear that grips many rational observers about the way DPPs around the country are running sexual-­assault trials. He recorded his “deep level of concern that there is some sort of unwritten policy or expectation in place in the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions of this state to the effect that if any person alleges that they have been the subject of some sort sexual assault then that case is prosecuted without a sensible and rational interrogation of that complainant so as to be satisfied that they have a reasonable basis for making that allegation”.

In the ACT, however, the concern runs even deeper. Not only should voters be asking how and why prosecutors get appointed, and how and why sexual-assault cases are commenced, but they need to be asking serious questions about how these cases are conducted once they get to court.

On the evidence of Drumgold’s admissions, we know he withheld evidence from Lehrmann’s defence team that they were entitled to, that he misled the Chief Justice in the course of the trial and that he procured his most junior employee to swear a false affidavit. God only knows what we don’t know.

Drumgold’s misbehaviour should not taint other ACT prosecutors who behave professionally while carrying out their important roles. However, Drumgold’s former status as chief prosecutor and his ability to direct more ­junior employees does raise ­questions about the culture of the Office of the DPP.

There are other pointers to systemic failure in the ACT. As The Australian has reported, when Lehrmann sought legal aid in the ACT, he was told that the Legal Aid lawyers would not challenge the complainant’s credibility. In other words, if you are poor and an alleged perpetrator of sexual assault in the ACT, you can forget about getting legal aid to run a proper defence.

Even more concerning is that, as far as we can tell, none of the ­official pillars of the ACT justice system – from the Chief Justice down to the ACT Bar Association – has yet taken any measures to discipline Drumgold for his admitted misconduct.

Is this a sign that legal luminaries in the ACT are willing to turn a blind eye to the fact that a chief prosecutor misled the Chief Justice in the course of a trial, withheld evidence the defence was entitled to and connived at the swearing of a false affidavit? For so long as there is silence from lawyers charged with ­overseeing the administration of justice about serious questions hanging over the ACT justice ­­system, there will remain a serious whiff of class warfare in the ACT air.

Rattenbury’s hard-line ideological determination – aided and abetted by the radical adherents of the #MeToo movement, to get prosecution rates up apparently without apparent regard to the disastrous consequences of failed prosecutions not merely on complainants and alleged perpetrators but on police, judges and juries – makes us wonder what is really going on here.

Is this a case where young males have become the 21st century Kulaks, a despised class enemy whom the government feels entitled to persecute at will?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 5:24 pm

‘Pain being subjective’

If you are in any doubt about this, visit any decent sized ED on a Saturday night and observe the antics on display in the hope of procuring a bit of good pain relief gear.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 5:30 pm

GreyRanga

 March 25, 2024 4:39 pm

For those that think Drs can read scans or X-rays well, think again.

This was years ago when I read this. Imaging was about a 50/50 guess. I believe imaging has improved immensely since then. I suspect imaging, especially for nasties is the first port of call. The definitive proof would then be a biopsy. Imaging could show a lump or some tissue distortion etc, but only a biopsy is the gold standard I would presume.

Winston Smith
March 25, 2024 5:32 pm

Well. One post today that snuck by Moderation.
I don’t suppose there’s a switch to open all the replies by default? Because this layout means I’m jumping all over the place finding replies. It’s like being born in 1980, getting married in 1857, having children in 2031, 1946, 1952 & 1894. And finally dying in 1858.
Then handing the whole bloody mess to a genealogist to make sense of.

Tom
Tom
March 25, 2024 5:34 pm

Paywallian: ABC Four Corners ‘bowl of vomit’ cleared of wrongdoing

The taxpayer-funded broadcaster’s flagship investigative program has been cleared of breaching impartiality rules after airing an episode some viewers claimed was Russian propaganda.

See how this works? The ABC employs the factcheckers that clear it of wrongdoing.

The ABC is a propaganda factory free of any KPIs that require it to perform by any metrics like ratings and launches public attacks on anyone that opposes its funding — the Mafia model.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 25, 2024 5:40 pm

DENNIS SHANAHAN
Anthony Albanese faces a greater threat to his re-election than his predecessors

Having narrowly survived the political curse of Australia Day, which had claimed the leadership of three of his predecessors, Anthony Albanese now faces an even greater curse and threat to his re-election.

It’s not just journalistic hyperbole, it’s an inconvertible fact of political history: no first-term government since World War II has increased its majority at its first re-election attempt, with losses of between three and 20 seats.

This means the Albanese government, with a majority of two – thanks to its historic win in the Aston by-election – has to perform better in its re-election attempt than Robert Menzies embarking on the longest term of government in history; better than Labor’s longest-serving prime minister, Bob Hawke, and better than John Howard as he started Australia’s second-longest prime ministership.

It goes without saying that to stay in majority government the Prime Minister will have to do better than Gough Whitlam who lost 14 seats, Labor’s Julia Gillard, who contested the re-election after Kevin Rudd’s removal and took Labor into minority government, and the Liberal’s Malcolm Turnbull, who wiped out Tony Abbott’s 2013 30-seat victory and left the Coalition on a one-seat knife edge.

The latest Newspoll survey result is a check to Labor’s mid-summer recovery after directing $104bn in tax cuts towards lower and middle-income earners.

According to Newspoll Labor’s primary vote fell from 33 per cent to 32 per cent – its lowest since the crushing to the indigenous voice to parliament referendum last year – curtailing a small recovery and suggesting the hint of a new downward trend.

At the election in May 2022 Labor’s primary vote was 32.6 per cent and relied heavily on Greens’ preferences and independents defeats of Liberal MPs to win the election with a wafer-thin majority.

Albanese, aware of the danger of falling support for a government heading into a new parliamentary year, fought for a recovery so that Labor went into 2024 with renewed momentum.

This Newspoll result suggests that any momentum has stalled and Labor’s task for the election, due to be called in 12 months, is harder than ever as it scrambles to try to clear problems on energy, tax, religion and carbon emissions.

The historical perspective makes the task even harder with no first-term government ever improving its majority and the smallest loss being just three seats – enough to remove the Albanese government.

Hawke, as Labor’s most successful leader, even allowing for a massive 23-seat increase in the size of the House of Representatives in 1984 went from a 30 per cent margin to just 10 per cent.

In 1998 Howard’s GST election decimated Liberal MP ranks and gave Labor a national two-party preferred majority but the massive 1996 victory ensured the first-term Howard government was re-elected.

Even Labor’s historic win in 1972 could not deliver the Whitlam government with more seats and, the man who removed him in 1975 with a landslide, Malcolm Fraser, went backwards in 1977.

Rudd and Abbott never got to contest the first re-election of their governments and both their replacements, Gillard and Turnbull, went badly backwards into minority and bare majority in 2010 and 2016.

Albanese does not have the benefit of a Whitlam, Fraser or Howard landslide, nor even the latitude of Hawke or Menzies, but, he is going to have to outperform them all at the next election just to stay in power.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 5:44 pm

Ukraine used a truck that was unbeknownst to the driver remotely detonated over Kerch Bridge killing him and others travelling on it. They used a present to smuggle in a bomb to a cafe detonating it during the talk; using patsies.

You have evidence of this, or relying on the Deckchair Warlord, others of that ilk and/or Russian propaganda?

They are using cluster munitions in Belgorod,

That’s bad, yea?

they regularly shelled Donetsk, they burnt over 50 people alive in Odessa, and so on.

This wasn’t in the current round of Putin’s attempt at annexing the country, was it?

They could easily do something like this using proxies, and in these other cases the West looked away.

Putin killed hundreds of his own freaking people and then blamed it on the Chechens. Please don’t get religious all of a sudden, about Ukraine.

Should I list the dirty tricks Russia has used?

Still, the answer to the sham election awaits.

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Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
March 25, 2024 5:47 pm

I watched the channel 7, 9 and 2 news last night, and they all parroted the USA line that it was ISIS-K and there was “no evidence, what-so-ever” that the Ukraine was involved, and that Putin was basically lying.
No analysis or input just quoting their USA or Washington reporters who were quoting some US spokesperson (s).

Well those 4 boys certainly did an interesting road trip when they high-tailed it out of Moscow.
Did they go south-east east to Kazakhstan and other ‘stans. Nope.
Did they go 370km directly south-west with only 150km left to go till reaching the Ukrainian border? Yep.

Mercenaries? Useful dupes? False flag? Who knows?

But I must be wrong because the ABC reported today the Kamala said there was no evidence that it was Ukraine. And that ISIS-K had claimed responsibility. And Kamala would never be sent out to lie to the media would she?
Not the President, not the Secretary of Defense, not the CIA chief, not the NSA chief. Nope. Kamala!

I bet old Joh Bjelke Petersen has a self-satisfied grin on his face, “feeding the chooks” of the media has never been easier.

P.S. Perhaps that map going round the internet is fake, but the the ABC can be “fair minded” and explain how it is fake.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 25, 2024 5:51 pm

JC, I’ve had every sort of scan and any sort of soft tissue image is still poorly represented. Usually as a contrast to bones. I always tell them I don’t scan well, yeah thanks GreyRanga but the adults are in charge here. To be told later, you don’t scan well. Que! I must remember to tell you that next time, like all the other times you paid no attention to me.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
March 25, 2024 5:54 pm

NBC hired Ronna McDaniel, former head of the Republican organisation. Because they want diversity of political opinion? I think not.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 25, 2024 5:56 pm

Natural Instinct, you are certainly hopeful the ABC can explain anything. In the words of ObiWanKenobi “these are not the facts you are looking for “.

Winston Smith
March 25, 2024 6:03 pm

looking at the current disastrous unfolding of the election machinery in the US, is there anyone who has any confidence in any of them?
I cannot say that there is any better recording system than paper votes, marked with ink, and indelible finger paint.
The use of computers and other so called ‘high tech’ collating systems has been a fiasco for the citizens of Western Societies.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 6:04 pm

Did they go south-east east to Kazakhstan and other ‘stans. Nope.

Did they go 370km directly south-west with only 150km left to go till reaching the Ukrainian border? Yep.

That’s what the Russians are saying. Go back to Kasparov’s comment. Why would they head towards the most fortified border in the world?

cohenite
March 25, 2024 6:05 pm

Dick Smith suing the shitheads at the abc after they attacked his claims a second lot of shitheads at the CSIRO were wrong in saying Australia can run on 100% ruinables:

Elon Musk backs Dick Smith’s savage attack on ABC fact checkers after blasting ‘lies’ about nuclear energy | Daily Mail Online

Elon is backing Dick while other shithead fact fuking checkers from RMIT are backing the shitheads of the first and second parts. Here are the shitheads from the RMIT (vomit warning):

People – RMIT University

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
March 25, 2024 6:09 pm

So what’s the answer to the pitfalls of subjective interpretations of imaging? There’s much spruiking of “AI” as being better at spotting bogeys at a margin of double figures percent- but will insurers start pressuring that Drs be overruled by medibots?

cohenite
March 25, 2024 6:12 pm

JC, I’ve had every sort of scan and any sort of soft tissue image is still poorly represented.

My son is in the imaging business and MRIs and ultrasounds are excellent for tissues. Sometimes however you need a borer up you like a colonoscope or a capsule endoscopy.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 25, 2024 6:14 pm

132andBush
 March 25, 2024 9:54 am

Gez.
How are the stones going?

Seems the pesky pebbles might finally be gone thanks.
I had a stone in each kidney, they took turns in coming down the shute and didn’t decide to do a combined trip thank god.
Stuffed up a good six weeks of work with unpredictable attacks.
The good part was having a number of scans done on that area and finding there’s no nasty lumps around except for a slightly enlarged prostate.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 25, 2024 6:16 pm

Yoorrook turns to early settlement, massacre sitesAdrian BlackAAP
Mon, 25 March 2024 1:44PM

A ceremonial hearing has been held for the inquiry on Gunditjmara country at Budj Bim near Portland.

Victoria’s truth-telling inquiry has met near the state’s cradle of European settlement and the site of its first recorded massacre of Indigenous peoples.
The Yoorrook Justice Commission held a ceremonial hearing on Gunditjmara country near western Victoria’s Portland, where Edward Henty established the first European settlement in 1834.
The next three weeks of hearings focus on injustices against Indigenous Victorians related to land, sky and waters.
Hearings will include testimony from Premier Jacinta Allan and Water Minister Harriet Shing.

“What our people have been through since invasion will be told through the stories to Yoorrook Justice Commission,” Gunditjmara elder Donna Wright said.
She said the hearings were being held in their rightful place.
“In this part of our country, there’s a glorification of the colonisers who stole our land, the massacres, the murders, the frontier violence, violence against our women and our children as well,” Ms Wright said.
“It did not stop us. We’re still here and we’re still fighting.”
Inquiry commissioner Travis Lovett said Gunditjmara Mirring country told the story of colonisation “from beginning to end” in one region.
“The first recorded massacre in Victoria took place at the Convincing Ground on Kilcarer country, which we will also visit today,” Mr Lovett said.
“It is there that the European whalers used their guns to fend off the Kilcarer Gundidj people from accessing their own resources, which they had done for thousands of years prior.”
Several of the upcoming hearings will be held on country.
“During this time, you’ll also hear more evidence about how the theft of land, water and resources has impacted and continues to impact First Peoples today,” Mr Lovett said.
“We invite all Victorians to walk with us. To listen, to learn and share our history.”

Stories my Nanna told me…

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 6:20 pm

cohenite

March 25, 2024 6:12 pm

My son is in the imaging business and MRIs and ultrasounds are excellent for tissues. Sometimes however you need a borer up you like a colonoscope or a capsule endoscopy.

Sure, but the conclusive evidence is always a biopsy, no?

Indolent
Indolent
March 25, 2024 6:22 pm

Dr. Dawn Michael
@DawnsMission

Every day I wake up heartbroken that there is no justice for my husband and countless others that were murdered from the hospital protocol using Remdesivir.

Indolent
Indolent
March 25, 2024 6:23 pm
Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
March 25, 2024 6:30 pm

Why would they head towards the most fortified border in the world?
Yep that is plain crazy.
Why not go to the least fortified borders, say, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan – lots of like minded folk there.
No, let’s all go to an Orthodox christian country.
That’s just plain crazy.
So why did they do it?

Over to you.

P.S. And Russia is not an incubator for radical Islam. They (Muslims) have been living with Nordic/Slavic tribes inside Russia for hundreds of years – they (Muslims) have nowhere else to go. Russia is their home.

cohenite
March 25, 2024 6:55 pm

Sure, but the conclusive evidence is always a biopsy, no?

Depends what you’re looking for: torn muscles, broken bones , stones in the kidneys or gall bladder and countless other visible to the right equipment ailments. Biopsies are for the invisible bastards, cancers, blood diseases.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 6:56 pm

Indolent

Russia has form in conducting terrorist acts and supporting terrorism around the world. The USSR was one of the biggest supporters of terror groups.

Two of the most famously infamous attacks on civilians were

1/ in the 80s, shooting down a Korean airlines jet because it (mistakenly) traveled into Soviet airspace by a few miles. There was no cautionary signaling. They just shot it down with an air to air missile.

2/ Malaysian airlines shot down by a missile, even though the Russians were aware that airspace was used by civilian airlines.

But also, let me repeat, blowing up those apartment buildings by Putin and the FSA and then blaming on chechens.

Spare me the bullshit that Christians and Muslims have lived with each other blissfully for 100’s of years.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 25, 2024 6:57 pm

Seems the tradie, in Broome, who tied up the three indigenous kids, with cable ties, after he rumbled them in his mother’s swimming pool, has been granted bail…

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 7:09 pm

dover0beach
March 25, 2024 6:49 pm

Are you suggesting the truck driver knew he was carrying the explosives?

I have no idea and neither do you because it would’ve come from Russian propaganda.

Interesting how you seem to always give credit to Russian propaganda.

Yeah, using cluster munitions in built up areas is bad or at least not good.

Yeah, in built up areas it’s pretty bad. Payback is a real bitch though, right?

Targeting Civilian Infrastructure: There have been reports of Russian forces deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure in Ukraine, including hospitals, schools, and residential areas, in violation of international humanitarian law.

No, they burnt 50 people alive in Odessa, for instance, in the year the US organized the coup.

Oh, so we’re going back a decade ago even though the current leadership had nothing to with it. Righto.

I’m not the one getting worked up here. You have no idea if Putin organized the ’99 apartment bombings. None at all. There’s a few problems with the claim just as there are with the Moscow bombings being false flags. Putin/

It’s pretty well established it was Putin’s gambit. Also, let me add the fact you’re speculating every day about this war. I don’t think you’re the only one allowed to make assertions.

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JC
JC
March 25, 2024 7:17 pm

The DMZ between NK/SK is easily more fortified,

Wait a minute, they were heading to the Sth Korean border and entering from North Korea? 🙂

Moreover, you’re again giving credit to something the Russians are claiming who are as credible as the other side of the conflict.

Call it the second most fortified then if it makes you happier.

But seeing we’re in the speculation business. It makes sense for Putin to lay blame on Ukraine because he wants to raise the anger of the Russian public against Ukraine. And the last thing the prick wants is to get into a skirmish with Islamic loons right at this moment.

Let me speculate now.

The attack was conducted by ISIS related lunatics. Putin will blame it on Ukraine because it suits his strategy and gets the punters fired up against the Ukes. The last thing he wants is another skirmish with Islamist elements seeing he’s fellating the mullahs and Hamarse. It would very much suit his strategy.

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chrisl
chrisl
March 25, 2024 7:20 pm

Very strange coincidence…
Last night I was watching Inglorious Basterds , the Tarantino alt history film
The finale was the exact same scenario as the Russian terrorist attack
Theatregoers are machine gunned and then the joint is set on fire!
Cue spooky music ( Taylor Swift)

Zafiro
Zafiro
March 25, 2024 7:21 pm

2/ Malaysian airlines shot down by a missile, even though the Russians were aware that airspace was used by civilian airlines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_presidential_aircraft

Putin’s aeroplane was due in and around that airspace and around that time.

The cowboy Ukranians shot down the Malaysian airliner by mistake. Very similar livery.

cohenite
March 25, 2024 7:27 pm

Bolta earning his keep by eviscerating the complete fraud and all round shithead pascoe and his latest book, and all his supporters from the abc down. Then he has sheridan on and goes ga ga.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 7:34 pm

Sure, sure, but it doesn’t matter given a family was also killed while on the bridge, or is that only Russian propaganda?

Why does on earth does it all have to be bullshit. it doesn’t have to be all or nothing. Really. you’re arguing this now?

You need to get your story straight, JC. On the hand you argue that the Ukes would deliberately target civilians and when they do you cry ‘Payback is a real bitch’. Which is it?

There’s no need for me to get my story straight as you’re the one unable to cope and show it be meandering from one irrelevant point to another. The area was a war zone and it was that they weren’t deliberately targeting civilians. Totally different to what occurred in the concert hall.

Though the current leadership had nothing to with it. Righto.

Many of the people that did this came to power subsequently, but again you miss the point, the charge applies to Ukraine, and the West’s ability to ignore it when it suits.

And yet, you still refuse to answer if the recent election was legit.

It isn’t, and the fact that you’re not addressing the points raised against it suggests a certain lack of confidence in the claim itself.

Mind reading was never your best attribute.

Indolent
Indolent
March 25, 2024 7:38 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 7:54 pm

I see Tassie ALP have expressed no interest in talking to the Greens.
Not sure if it is smart politics (i.e. they see the Greens as toxic) or pragmatic (i.e. they simply don’t think they’ll get the numbers even with the Greens onside).
You can only hope it’s the former.

2dogs
2dogs
March 25, 2024 7:58 pm

Covering for lies with more lies: https://amp.abc.net.au/article/103617364

Ignoring completely the fossil fuel based energy imports of Albania.

And the other three (Bhutan, Nepal and Paraguay) only have power available sometimes.
?

Rabz
March 25, 2024 8:03 pm

Then he has sheridan on and goes ga ga

Sheridini all in of course on the ISIS-Special K massacre of the Moscow theatregoers hypothesis.

cohenite
March 25, 2024 8:19 pm

NSW Bill passed under the cover of night Kirralie Smith  March 25, 2024
Under the cover of night, NSW Labor, the Greens and independent Alex Greenwich teamed up to pass the controversial ‘Conversion Practices Ban Bill’ in NSW.
They rammed it through while you and I were sleeping, while many parliamentarians had gone home for the night.
They rejected public scrutiny and consultation. 
They rejected the piles of evidence that proves issuing puberty blockers and cross sex hormones to minors is irreversibly and catastrophically harmful.
They conflated sex and gender identity. Sex relies on biology while gender identity denies biology.
They disregarded the voice of detransitioners and victims of the transgender industry who have been deeply harmed by this insidious ideology. 
They will never have to give an account for the incredible damage this bill paves the way for.
It is incredibly disturbing and frustrating. 
Special acknowledgement must go to John Ruddick (Libertarians), Damien Tudehope (Liberal), Mark Latham (independent), Tania Mihailuk (One Nation), Robert Borsak and Mark Banasiak (Shooters Fishers and Farmers).
Watch John Ruddick’s speech.
Watch Damien Tudehope’s speech: “This is an abuse of democracy”.
Watch Susan Carter speak about “transing the gay away”.

shatterzzz
March 25, 2024 8:20 pm

 The definitive proof would then be a biopsy. Imaging could show a lump or some tissue distortion etc, but only a biopsy is the gold standard I would presume.

Yep ..! my CT scan showed very little 3 weeks ago but the MRI 2 weeks ago shows a possible problem (may be Cancer) so I’m going in for a biopsy in a couple of weeks so the doc can be more positive ……..

Harlequin Decline
March 25, 2024 8:51 pm

In great household plumbing achievements I embarked on a project to fix a tap leaking around the spindle. Two hours later I had managed to not only not fix the initial leak but create another one. Another hour and I had managed to restore matters to the initial state, i.e. just one leak albeit slightly increased.

By the standards of our elected Federal government I’m declaring a resounding success.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 25, 2024 8:58 pm

Heard the story today, of one of the locals, who has been married three times. Courtesy of the Family Law Court, each of the ladies lives in a Mac Mansion, on the local version of Rotten Row, while he lives in a third hand camper van…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2024 9:05 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
 March 25, 2024 8:58 pm

Heard the story today, of one of the locals, who has been married three times. 

To be married once is unfortunate.
Twice looks like carelessness.
But three times?

cohenite
March 25, 2024 9:12 pm

Place your bets folks: does the fat kunt start boarding Trump tower up at 1 minute past midnight or does the big guy come up with a stall.

This has to be the most corrupt shit ever in the US and unlike the corruption in the past it’s all out there sliming around like a fetid pile of shit out of biden’s varicose veined arse.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 25, 2024 9:21 pm

Apparently the Tasmanian Labor leader has been booted by the Party.

Maybe they want to get into bed with the Greens after all.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 25, 2024 9:24 pm

Dr John Campbells latest video clip is from the home of Australian Dr Robert Clancy.
Gearing up for a one day conference on 2 April 2024.

132andBush
132andBush
March 25, 2024 9:43 pm

Farmer Gez
March 25, 2024 6:14 pm

That’s good to hear, especially coming into this time of the year.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 25, 2024 9:46 pm

Terrorist-backer, radical preacher Abu Ousayd a Saturday school principal

  • Exclusive

By alexi demetriadi

  • NSW Political Reporter
  • 8:55PM March 25, 2024

A radical, terrorism-backing Sydney cleric who described Jewish people as “descendants of pigs and monkeys” and urged people to “spit on Israel” so that “Jews would drown” is a Saturday school principal teaching sharia to children as young as five.
The Australian can reveal that southwest Sydney cleric Abu Ousayd is the head of an informal Saturday school for children aged five to 12 at Bankstown’s Al Madina Dawah Centre.
Since the onset of the Israel-Hamas war on October 7, the ­centre has provided a platform for incendiary sermons by a number of clerics, including Mr Ousayd.
Mr Ousayd has previously ­expressed support for Islamic State and al-Qa’ida, boasted of friendship with terrorists Khaled Sharrouf and Mohamed Elomar, and preached extremist ideology at his now-defunct Al-Risalah ­Islamic Centre, which was frequented by numerous men who committed atrocities in Syria.
As recently as last month, the Al Madina Dawah Centre was ­encouraging enrolments for children to study the Koran, ­Arabic and sharia, at a cost of $200 per place.
Promotional material said the school would “grow hearts and minds, guided by the Koran and Sunnah”, and promised “learning, fun and play”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 25, 2024 9:47 pm

So you rush to ED with failing kidneys and lie about your medication, so the medicos are scratching their heads as to what is causing the failure.

Something that has come up continually at the Channel 9, Al Muderis defamation case.
Patients also not disclosing previous surgeries.
Just because you lose a limb, shouldn’t mean you lose your mind.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 10:03 pm

What are you taking about?

 
This.
 
 
 
Sure, sure, but it doesn’t matter given a family was also killed while on the bridge, or is that only Russian propaganda.
 
Why does a kernel of truth have to mean that the rest of the story has to be correct?
 
 

LOL on the meandering and irrelevancies. On the latter, if you don’t want to appear to be ideliberately targeting or indifferent to civilian don’t use cluster munitions in built up areas, don’t describe this a payback is a bitch, and then pretend this is all totally different.

 
Payback for Russian aggression against Ukrainian civilians is a bitch. See the comment above about how the Russians have been targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure. Add to that the fact that, early on, the Russians were actually targeting a nuclear reactor.
 
It was also a war zone, and therefore the Ukes are perfectly entitled to blow up the place. If there were civilians in the area, that’s just bad luck. Equating that with what occurred in the concert hall is really stretching credulity.
 
 

I’m not a dancing seal that performs tricks on request especially ially when they are irrelevant to what is being discussed.


It’s a perfectly reasonable question.
 
 
 

So rather than address the points I raised earlier you’re just going to complain that I’m trying to ‘read your mind’. Human beings read intentions from words and deeds. If I see someone looking in my window at midnight, I’m going to guess he intends something nefarious. This is entirely justified in the circumstances.

 
 
I have addressed and re-addressed the points you raised. I even added my speculation to yours. You suggested that I wasn’t “confident” in my responses, which is mind-reading 101. I’m sorry, I don’t find your speculations convincing, and if you find that what I’ve said lacks a certain quality of confidence, then that’s on you. The analogy is also very silly, as it has zero relevance to our discussion. Mind-reading in this instance means that you’re attempting to read something that isn’t there. I’m not there at your window at midnight looking into your home. You’re buying into Russian propaganda that it was Ukraine that sent in those mass murderers. If I may mind-read now, you’re so hung up on making Putin appear innocent that you can no longer even entertain the possibility that anything you have said about this war is totally wrong.
 

 

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 10:07 pm

The Ukes have been attacking settlements in Belgorod, etc., they’ve been at war for two years, and so on, the idea that the Russian public is not angered towards the Ukrainians right now is just daft.

What’s daft is suggesting the Ukrainians have been at “war” as though it was the Ukrainians wanting to annex another country, and then calling it a special operation. Call it what it is – Russian aggression.

Fine, you don’t like my speculation. I consider yours pretty daft too.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 25, 2024 10:15 pm

Elder who voted ‘no’ elected to state voice
By paige taylor

  • Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
  • 8:30PM March 25, 2024
  • 20 Comments

An Aboriginal elder who voted against a constitutionally ­enshrined national voice at the referendum last year has been elected to a legislated version of the voice in South Australia.
Donald Fraser, who was born on the Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara Lands and grew up at the Presbyterian Ernabella Mission in the Musgrove Ranges, told The Australian on Monday he believes his home state should trial the voice before other states considered adopting it. Once state voices were working well, Mr Fraser said, a national voice could be the next step.
“I wasn’t in favour of the ­national one not yet,” he said. “Once we’ve learned here in South Australia we will pass it on to other states. Otherwise it will be too big to control it.”
The SA Electoral Commission published the first results of its count on Monday, declaring Mr Fraser one of seven successful candidates for the region called Far North. That region covers the town of Coober Pedy and the remote APY Lands where the late Indigenous leader Lowitja O’Donoghue was born.
Mr Fraser, who worked with O’Donoghue when they were both employed by the old Department of Aboriginal Affairs, said on Monday that he believed he was born in 1948 but had never been able to obtain a birth certificate.
He said economic development on the APY Lands must be one of the voice’s top priorities when it begins advising the Malinauskas government. Mr Fraser, who lives in the APY community of Pakutja, said government ­departments once helped his people run small enterprises that ­created jobs.
“People out here are on Centrelink since government took away the funding that created all those jobs,” he said.
“We used to earn $30 a week, which was a good wage at the time. There were a lot of jobs here but there is nothing now. It would be good to get together with the government, throw all the cards on the table and try to run that one.”
Mr Fraser said that running cattle could be a good option but there were plenty of other opportunities on the APY Lands.
“We are crying out for economic development,” he said.
“Once people earn a decent wage they can buy clothes and the expensive food they just cannot afford on Centrelink. Food is very expensive here.”
The first members of SA’s voice were declared on Monday as the Electoral Commission began what was expected to be a three-day count to decide who would sit on the three-tiered body. There are a total of 46 positions. The precise structure of the SA voice was established in legislation last year after consultations with Indigenous people across the state. The voice will be able to talk to the government and the parliament.’
In SA, the legislation creates six regions. The representatives elected from each region will form six local voices. Two members from each of these local voices – a man and a woman – will sit on the state voice. This means the state voice will have 12 members drawn from the local voices.

JC
JC
March 25, 2024 10:56 pm

it doesnt. The whole point of referring to them is that it is incontestable that they were killed in the vicinity of the truck bomb.

It’s irrelevant and wasn’t contested. What is contested was the story that went along with that. A truck bomber on a suicide mission.

Again, your saying that the Ukes wouldn’t target civilians and now your saying when they do it’s payback. How can the latter preclude them from something like the Moscow bombings? It can’t.

Boy oh boy you stretch things out. I said, it’s unlikely the ukes would arrange an attack of this nature and I suggested that because Putin has form, it would be more likely he was the culprit. It was you that equated cluster bombing in a war zone to the attack in the theater. One is a terrorist attack and the other isn’t.

Nonsense. Further, the civilian infrastructure they’ve targeted is dual use and nothing different from what the US targeted and destroyed in Serbia, Iraq, Syria or Libya, for instance. As for this idea that they’re targeting a reactor they themselves have in their possession, again, makes absolutely no sense.

Stop bringing the US into the discussion as it’s irrelevant and muddies the water. We’re discussing the attack on the concert hall.

The Russians began to attack the reactor!

That’s not how it works, even in a war zone. And it makes no sense for you to say its bad luck here but not went it’s putatively the Russians. Lastly, it doesn’t stretch credulity to liken indiscriminatey using cluster munitions in a populated area with a indiscriminate killingin a theatre; both are a likely in the xasual and wanton disregard for civilian casualties.

But Russians lobbing missiles in Ukrainian civilian areas is okay then?

No, you have ignored the points raised against the claim that the apartment bombings were a false flag. I let others guess what I’m thinking as I wrote this reply.

That the apartment bombings were a false flag carries more credibility than Putin’s accusation it was the Ukrainians who done it and you buying into this propagandist tripe.

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Indolent
Indolent
March 25, 2024 11:00 pm
JC
JC
March 25, 2024 11:01 pm

You accused me earlier of meandering and irrelevancies and the above either missed the point or is dodging the point made. I argued the Russian public is already sufficiently angry towards the Ukrainians as not to need a false-flag event to arouse them to further anger, and your reply is now to contest the use of the term war rather than address that point.

There is the new call-up about to occur, so there’s that. Also, I disagree the Russians are that angry with Ukrainians, as though that has anything to do with Putin’s attempt to annex the country.

MatrixTransform
March 25, 2024 11:34 pm

Fine, you don’t like my speculation. I consider yours pretty daft too

aw JC, ur so cute in your MLC uniform.

you go grrl !!

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