Open Thread – Mon 1 April 2004


Landscape with Christ appearing to the Apostles at the Sea of Tiberias, Pieter Brueghel The Elder, 1553.

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Indolent
Indolent
April 2, 2024 6:20 pm

In short, I am largely in agreement with the conclusions of Viganó, even if I find his way of expressing himself rather odd.

He certainly covers the salient points in a frank and unambiguous way. Whether you’re religious or not, it truly is a struggle against evil.

cohenite
April 2, 2024 6:21 pm

Cronkite, now this is a real woman, not the fake sheilas you present here.
Melania looks great. Great smile too.

One of the world’s great beauties. Alternatively all demorat women are ugly snakes. As for cute owls, when the crunch comes you will want a couple of them by your side to bash the bastards.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 2, 2024 6:21 pm

Courts & JusticeCrime

Did Bruce Lehrmann leak trove of Brittany Higgins evidence ahead of exclusive interview?
The West Australian
Tue, 2 April 2024 2:50PM

Lawyers have begun their bid to reopen the defamation case pitting Bruce Lehrmann against his accuser Brittany Higgins — an application which will be staunchly opposed by Mr Lehrmann’s legal team.
Barrister Matt Collins is on his feet arguing before Justice Michael Lee that new evidence should be allowed into the trial, which would delay the scheduled judgement on Thursday morning.
And he has already revealed that they are re-ventilating their argument that it was Mr Lehrmann who handed over the “e-brief” of evidence to the Seven Network ahead of an exclusive interview last year.
They say that breached a promise made to the court that the material could and should only be used in that criminal case — and was designed to put pressure on Ms Higgins and others ahead of his defamation trial.

That material included thousands of pages of texts between Ms Higgins and her former boyfriend, as well as audio of a hotel meeting between Ms Higgins and her interviewer Lisa Wilkinson and CCTV from Parliament House.
“Mr Lehrmann’s credit is central,” Dr Collins said.
“He told a series of falsehoods to a national audience on Spotlight. And he (provided) 2,300-odd pages of the most intimate, private messages between (Ms Higgins) and a former boyfriend.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
April 2, 2024 6:27 pm

Test

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 2, 2024 6:34 pm

Adjourned until 06:45pm.

Thursday ruling looking unlikely. seems.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 2, 2024 6:34 pm

Putting aside my taxpayer hat and the matter of the $2.4m payment, it would again seem Bruce’s attempts to enjoy a little me time have been thwarted through no fault of his own. That is the real crime here.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 2, 2024 6:35 pm

Earlier, at 11.52:

QLD’s $237m Wellcamp covid quarantine facility west of Toowoomba finally gets put to use…

As a film set for a movie starring David Wenham

Well.

I hope they took the Gas PiPes and CattLe Cars out before Diver Dan went anywhere near the joint.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 2, 2024 6:36 pm

Votes for the Brittle-knees/Lehmann case

1: Z2KA
2: Rockdoctor
3
4: Mole
5
6

John H.
John H.
April 2, 2024 6:37 pm

Arky

 April 2, 2024 5:48 pm

The USA is by far the most religious advanced nation yet has highest rates of legal and illegal drug abuse, highest incarceration and murder rates, and the streets are much less safe than the godless nations in Europe

..

And as an atheist, how do you claim any of those things as being morally wrong? You are just describing the situation as it is, and by your measure human morals will adapt to that circumstance and life will go on. Or not. According to your view none of it matters.

As an atheist I promote what is best for human beings now and into the future. That is a far better goal than worrying about keeping some uppity deity happy.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 2, 2024 6:39 pm

Also earlier:

Gun owners could soon be required to declare if they have diabetes in order to obtain or keep their hands on a firearm

This will be directly on the back of the diabetic who mowed down and killed five people in Daylesford late last year, whilst behind the wheel of a sporty Beemer and who very clearly thought ‘diabeetus medication is for chumps because I am rich’.

cohenite
April 2, 2024 6:41 pm

Look at this sick creep:

SICK! Joe Biden Repeatedly Sniffs Baby at White House Easter Egg Roll (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Far dinkum the US is being run by commies, traitors, weirdos and perverts. Nuke the lot of ’em!

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 2, 2024 6:44 pm

In court after 4pm. I hope they’re getting overtime.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 2, 2024 6:46 pm

‘Britain’s Schindler’: The man who saved 669 children from the Nazis
In February 1988, Vera Gissing sat with tears in her eyes in the BBC TV studio as she was introduced to Nicholas Winton, the man who had saved her life. Overcome with emotion, she clasped his hand and embraced the then nearly 80-year-old man, who had organised her escape from Nazi-occupied Prague just months before the outbreak of World War Two.

Forty-nine years earlier, a 10-year-old Vera, born V?ra Diamantová, along with her 15-year-old sister, Eva, had been packed onto a train called a “Kindertransport” with hundreds of other Jewish children, to take them to Britain.

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20240328-in-history-nicholas-winton-rescues-children-during-holocaust-ww2

2dogs
2dogs
April 2, 2024 6:47 pm

I’ll pick 2.

I have this small hope that the court will decide that poisoning the jury pool is something that should be punished.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 2, 2024 6:49 pm

This will be directly on the back of the diabetic who mowed down and killed five people in Daylesford late last year, whilst behind the wheel of a sporty Beemer and who very clearly thought ‘diabeetus medication is for chumps because I am rich’.

Some years ago on the Sunshine Coast motorway a female GP who was diabetic passed out, ran across the divider, head on into a car going the other way and managed to kill a baby in the other car. You’d think a medico would be all across this and would have no excuse. Didn’t serve a day.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
April 2, 2024 6:54 pm

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/insanity-el-paso-judge-orders-release-illegal-immigrants/
El Paso Judge Orders Release of Illegal Immigrants Who Stormed the Border and Rioted Against National Guardhttps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/breaking-far-left-judge-juan-merchan-expands-trump/
 Far-Left Judge Juan Merchan EXPANDS Trump Gag Order to Bar Him From Criticizing His Daughter – A Far-Left Political Operativehttps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/alvin-bragg-urges-judge-merchan-expand-trumps-gag/
Alvin Bragg Urges Judge Merchan to Expand Trump’s Gag Order to Include Family Members of Trial Participants After MNSBC’s Nicolle Wallace Throws TantrumDoes anyone think the Left won’t force a civil war after the elections if the Democrats don’t get in?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 2, 2024 7:02 pm

Votes for the Brittle-knees/Lehmann case
1: Z2KA
2: Rockdoctor, 2Dogs
3
4: Mole
5
6

Arky
April 2, 2024 7:02 pm

As an atheist I promote what is best for human beings now and into the future.

Why?
And how would you possibly know “what is best” for human beings?
And given that you aren’t possibly in any position to impose anything you think is best on human beings, why should I fkn care what you think?

Roger
Roger
April 2, 2024 7:11 pm

I see Albanese has all but accused the IDF of the murder of an Australian aid worker in Gaza before any report has been received.

He’ll have calculated that there’s some electoral mileage in it.

What grubs our politicians are.

BIRM.

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John H.
John H.
April 2, 2024 7:24 pm

Arky

 April 2, 2024 7:02 pm

As an atheist I promote what is best for human beings now and into the future.

Why?

And how would you possibly know “what is best” for human beings?

And given that you aren’t possibly in any position to impose anything you think is best on human beings, why should I fkn care what you think?

There is no absolute certainty. We make our judgements and hope for the best.

How about that on the weekend I received official acknowledgement that I am on a research team financed by a multinational that will be investigating ways to not only optimize human health but also, hopefully, cure some pathological states? That may have no meaning for you but for me that is a privilege. So I am in a position to help humanity and it has been many years since I enjoyed that privilege. Unfortunately I am way past my prime, I know the proposed model and am not sure it will work, but for the time being will work with the team.

Don’t assume that our motivation is universal among human beings. When people start assuming that they know what motivates all human beings they are ignoring the huge amount of variation in human psychology. I’m amazed that people put so much effort into sport but I still respect their dedication and achievement.

JC
JC
April 2, 2024 7:30 pm

White guys on the Missouri Sex Offenders Registry

There must be an epidemic of white guys committing sex offenses in Missouri. Work your way down the page to see.

https://twitter.com/UnbiasedCrime

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Gilas
Gilas
April 2, 2024 7:35 pm

thefrollickingmole
April 2, 2024 5:49 pm

Spot poll
What do people think the outcome of the Lehman case will be.
1: Lehman wins bigly – damages against TV station and cane toad announced.
2: Lehman wins, but TV station only in the frame, Toad skates
3: Lehman wins, but with significant caveats, Toad and TV station
4: Lehman wins, but with significant caveats, TV station only
5: Effectively a “pox on both houses” judgement, all players go home and pay their own costs.
6: Lehman loses, with significant caveats,
7: Lehman loses bigly, found to have possibly offended on the balance of probabilities, ordered to pay costs etc.

Lee J has already expressed adverse opinions on Bunyons and 10’s bumbling-toy legal outfit.
Whoever loses, both defendants get it in the neck, as they so amply deserve.

The only real variable is the amount of Lehrmann’s damages, which will be severely curtailed, maybe even annulled by him being the epitome of a retarded, relapsing, cheap liar.

The real variable is the weight Lee J gives to the various, relevant parts of the 2000+ pages of the Evidence Act, oft mentioned and entirely opaque to legal numpties such as me.

Option 5a: Effectively a “pox on both houses” judgement, all players go home, 10 pays Bunyons’ costs, Brucie gets a token Pyrrhic mention and little or no $$.

..would be my best guess. It best describes a temporary (for this will NOT end with next week’s verdict) denouement to the sordid, slow-moving clusterf@ck.

Vicki
Vicki
April 2, 2024 7:35 pm

The QLD government had decided not to appeal the Supreme Court decision re the unlawful exercise of vaccine mandates for state workers. This may open the way for compensatory litigation.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 2, 2024 7:39 pm

Same with Morrison and Howard.
And all for political power that they know nowt what to do with except make ordinary peoples’ lives more difficult.

Too true Roger. A politician who actually works for the betterment of the demos (or just stops shaking them down and lets them keep some of their own money) is a rarity. Look what the establishment is trying to do to such a rarity in the US. Howard destroyed any remaining credibility he had with me when he started dissing Trump. Just despicable.

Roger
Roger
April 2, 2024 7:40 pm

Don’t assume that our motivation is universal among human beings.

Most human beings are religious.

Atheism is a minority report.

Don’t assume you understand people and what’s good for them, John.

cohenite
April 2, 2024 7:40 pm

Option 5a: Effectively a “pox on both houses” judgement, all players go home, 10 pays Bunyons’ costs, Brucie gets a token Pyrrhic mention and little or no $$.

The important denouement to that will be costs; brucie must get his costs paid by the other grifters or he is bankrupt.

Roger
Roger
April 2, 2024 7:41 pm

The QLD government had decided not to appeal the Supreme Court decision re the unlawful exercise of vaccine mandates for state workers.

Hoist by their own petard – their human rights Act.

Chortle.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 2, 2024 7:43 pm

There is no absolute certainty. We make our judgements and hope for the best.

John – It’s fun that you say this, but as a scientist I have to regard absolute certainty at all times. Gravity, for example. You could jump off of building expecting not to fall to your death, but we all know that’s what will happen.

So there is absolute certainty. I have to accept the three laws of thermodynamics and etc. I wouldn’t get far denying the tenets of my own scientific profession.

Translate that to human interactions and it’s clear that there are laws that work in a social and cultural settings. We see this. Nations with a Christian ethos do ‘way better that nations without that cultural basis. That is an absolute certainty demonstrated by about two thousand years of history.

rosie
rosie
April 2, 2024 7:44 pm

“The USA is by far the most religious advanced nation yet has highest rates of legal and illegal drug abuse, highest incarceration and murder rates, and the streets are much less safe than the godless nations in Europe”
Because that problem has nothing to do with religion.
Is there a Venn diagram showing the overlap of Godbothers and drugged up murderers and criminals.
I’m not sure what ‘religiously advanced means.
And there are European nations where there are still significant percentages of believers.

Arky
April 2, 2024 7:49 pm

So I am in a position to help humanity and it has been many years since I enjoyed that privilege. 

..
Given that every fruitloop from the green lunatics to the idiots castrating children in the name of identity also believe they are helping, your same appeal to an individual “evolved morality” and helping humanity is frankly worrying.
And again, why would I give a damn what you think if all you have is the same thing I have, that everyone has: the moral sense which evolved to gain us a survival edge in social conditions?
What’s in it for me to listen in the slightest to your take on what you believe will benefit you, whether you call it morals or ethics or “helping humanity” or whatever. By your yardstick it is simply your faculty to assist you to survive in social groups.

Indolent
Indolent
April 2, 2024 7:50 pm
John H.
John H.
April 2, 2024 7:50 pm

Bruce of Newcastle

 April 2, 2024 7:43 pm

There is no absolute certainty. We make our judgements and hope for the best.

John – It’s fun that you say this, but as a scientist I have to regard absolute certainty at all times. Gravity, for example. You could jump off of building expecting not to fall to your death, but we all know that’s what will happen.

So there is absolute certainty. I have to accept the three laws of thermodynamics and etc. I wouldn’t get far denying the tenets of my own scientific profession.

Translate that to human interactions and it’s clear that there are laws that work in a social and cultural settings. We see this. Nations with a Christian ethos do ‘way better that nations without that cultural basis. That is an absolute certainty demonstrated by about two thousand years of history.

The context was about morals and life decisions, not science.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 2, 2024 7:55 pm

1 hour ago

Justice Lee allows Ten to reopen defamation case
Federal Court judge Michael Lee has allowed Network Ten to reopen its defamation case with Bruce Lehrmann, to analyse fresh evidence brought by former Seven producer Taylor Auerbach.
As such, Justice Lee told the court on Tuesday afternoon it is “unlikely” he will deliver judgment in the matter on Thursday as planned.
Justice Lee said the evidence given by Mr Auerbach not only goes to the credit of Mr Lehrmann, but is “broader than that”.
“This is clearly fresh evidence,” he said. “It may or may not be material at the end of the day that the determination proceedings, but it is not simply a matter which goes to the credibility of the applicant, but the way in which the respondents put it, is broader than that.”
Justice Lee said there was an “intense public interest of people not thinking that relevant material has been able to be achieved for the parties if they say that it is relevant to the determination of the issues.”
“At the end of the day, my obligation is to deliver judgement justly and efficiently and with the least delay,” he said. “I think the delay, if I manage this, along the lines that I’ve discussed with counsel will be relatively minimal in the scheme of things.”
Justice Lee said he would be unable to deliver judgment until “at least next week”.
“The short point is that I would give leave to reopen,” he said.
Justice Lee has adjourned for 15 minutes to allow Mr Lehrmann’s legal team to determine what subpoenas must be issued to the Seven Network to proceed.
Mr Lehrmann’s barrister Matthew Richardson SC rejected much of the alleged new evidence as “trivial” and questioned whether Mr Auerbach was suffering from a psychiatric condition, suggesting Mr Auerbach himself had claimed a “psychiatric injury” caused by his separation from Seven.
“Speaking frankly, multiple journalists, including I assume some of the back of the court, have described his appearances in public in recent weeks as bizarre,” Mr Richardson said. “That is a word that has been used frequently.”

cohenite
April 2, 2024 7:59 pm

Joe Biden Tells ‘Trans Americans’ They Are ‘Made in the Image of God’ (breitbart.com)

Trannies have a mental illness: gender dysphoria. So, according to the demented pervert God has a mental illness.

MatrixTransform
April 2, 2024 8:02 pm

How could you possibly know what the ‘great majority of prayers’ are for?

and then she goes on to explain how she knows what other peoples prayers are for

?

John H.
John H.
April 2, 2024 8:06 pm

rosie

 April 2, 2024 7:44 pm

“The USA is by far the most religious advanced nation yet has highest rates of legal and illegal drug abuse, highest incarceration and murder rates, and the streets are much less safe than the godless nations in Europe”

Because that problem has nothing to do with religion.

Is there a Venn diagram showing the overlap of Godbothers and drugged up murderers and criminals.

I’m not sure what ‘religiously advanced means.

And there are European nations where there are still significant percentages of believers.

“Advanced” was the wrong word. The most religious of the advanced nations yet it is beset by so many problems that do not plague much less religiously influenced nations. The European nations I had in mind are where religion is just a dying cultural tradition. Religion, particularly Christianity, provided some good foundation stones but that doesn’t mean we have to maintain the belief system in order to utilize those foundations. I don’t perceive the necessity of a metaphysical model to justify the way we choose to live. I have known atheists with strong convictions about creating a better world. I have known religious people of similiar disposition. Unlike Arky I see no contradiction in that because I don’t assume that everyone has the same motivations. If people want a metaphysical foundation fine let them at it. If people want a higher meaning then why not the betterment of humanity?

Arky
April 2, 2024 8:18 pm

If people want a higher meaning then why not the betterment of humanity?

..
Because every rotten, genocidal prick in the history of forever has claimed to be doing it for the betterment of humanity.
For example, the communists wanted a society without poverty and misery. They were perfectly happy to murder most of the members of the existing society in order to obtain it.
By your own measure, what was immoral or unethical in what they did? (Aside from the obvious fact that it didn’t work).
By your own metric of helping humanity, with just the merest twist of emphasising the future humanity, they instituted a vile and murderous regime.
The question for you is: on what basis do you think they were doing anything wrong?
Given that from an evolutionary point of view, if they managed to convince enough people to back them in murdering the rest, and society had subsequently “flourished” in all the ways you personally might agree with, what would be your objection? And upon what would your objection be based, other than your personal distaste or discomfort, which by your own measure, means absolutely nothing to me?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 2, 2024 8:20 pm

We’re all wallpaper.

Do What You Want (2006)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 2, 2024 8:35 pm

Dog magic (2010)

My fun thing today was a couple hours ago, went out front door. A very big cockie was in the camelia. I dunno why but I held out my arm and sure enough he jumped onto it like a pro, and accepted a piece of bread. I couldn’t ever train a dog to do anything but.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 2, 2024 8:35 pm

Another late night for the Brittany crew. Who’d be a lawyer if there was better ways to use your time?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 2, 2024 8:42 pm

cohenite
April 2, 2024 7:59 pm

Joe Biden Tells ‘Trans Americans’ They Are ‘Made in the Image of God’ (breitbart.com)

Well, that’s Dribbling Joe even more farked then. Not a very good image for this God deity either.

will
will
April 2, 2024 8:43 pm

The USA is by far the most religious advanced nation yet has highest rates of legal and illegal drug abuse, highest incarceration and murder rates, and the streets are much less safe than the godless nations in Europe

the USA is a first world nation containing a third world one. Demographics matter. The former part has lower homicide rates then Europe, the latter is like Johannesburg.

Pogria
Pogria
April 2, 2024 8:43 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 2, 2024 9:06 pm

Knuckle Dragger
 April 2, 2024 6:39 pm

Also earlier:

Gun owners could soon be required to declare if they have diabetes in order to obtain or keep their hands on a firearm

….

This will be directly on the back of the diabetic who mowed down and killed five people in Daylesford late last year, whilst behind the wheel of a sporty Beemer and who very clearly thought ‘diabeetus medication is for chumps because I am rich’

A man who is going to be sent to jail by the evidence of his own i-phone.
Mrs P’s nephew is a Type 1 diabetic and he played around with the settings on his blood sugar monitoring app to demonstrate the low glucose warning.
Oh, boy, when they play that alarm sound to a jury, there is no way a lawyer is going to be able to say “Yeah, nah, he thought it was the backseat seatbelt warning”.
Goes off like a smoke detector.
If any gun club member wants to direct any anger about tightened rules, he is your man.

m0nty
m0nty
April 2, 2024 9:23 pm

So I see America is now in the situation where Trump is running for President despite owing $175M to a used car salesman called Mr Hankey.

The writers ran out of ideas many months ago.

cohenite
April 2, 2024 9:42 pm

Dickless is back; the milko’s kiddies must be in bed and the laxatives haven’t kicked in yet.

Figures
Figures
April 2, 2024 9:52 pm

How can anybody read Monty’s drivel and still believe in democracy?

When the left get power they use it even though they actually need people on the Right to exist because those people support the actual productive economy.

For some bizarre reason the Right, when it gets power, is scared to use it despite the fact that almost no leftist serves any kind of useful purpose.

Rafiki
Rafiki
April 2, 2024 9:54 pm

As Collins KC observed, it looks like Lehrmann has again instructed his barrister, Richardson KC, that he did not provide the Project team material to the Spotlight fellow, Auerbach. Richardson would have been very clear that Lehrmann had to tell the truth. Auerbach comes across as a disturbed person, and unless there is clear documentary evidence to support his story, Lehrmann’s denials should be upheld. If so, he might get substantial damages notwithstanding his behaviour on the trial. If he is found to have lied twice to his barrister, he will be deep trouble.

John H.
John H.
April 2, 2024 9:58 pm

Arky

 April 2, 2024 8:18 pm

If people want a higher meaning then why not the betterment of humanity?

..

Because every rotten, genocidal prick in the history of forever has claimed to be doing it for the betterment of humanity.

For example, the communists wanted a society without poverty and misery. They were perfectly happy to murder most of the members of the existing society in order to obtain it.

By your own measure, what was immoral or unethical in what they did? (Aside from the obvious fact that it didn’t work).

By your own metric of helping humanity, with just the merest twist of emphasising the future humanity, they instituted a vile and murderous regime.

The question for you is: on what basis do you think they were doing anything wrong?

Given that from an evolutionary point of view, if they managed to convince enough people to back them in murdering the rest, and society had subsequently “flourished” in all the ways you personally might agree with, what would be your objection? And upon what would your objection be based, other than your personal distaste or discomfort, which by your own measure, means absolutely nothing to me?

The same problem happens with religion. Which city with the most blood shed? Jerusalem. What basis do religionists think they are doing the right thing? Some stories by old men passed down through the generations? Why is that such a superior source of wisdom? Given all the horrors of human behavior why doesn’t God show up one day and shout, Knock it off! Knock it off!. No impedance on individual free will, just a simple revelation to settle the debate once and for all.

Religionists disagree all the time. Even with a specific denomination there are disagreements. There have been thousands of variations of Christianity with so many purported reasons to kill those who do not share a particular belief set. There are Buddhist sects of various kinds and Islam is just plain nuts. Religion does not give us certainty. You want certainty for a moral structure when no-one has ever been able to provide that. You want what no-one can have.

This is what you don’t understand. There is no perfect solution, there is no absolute guarantee that following this or that particular path will stop the horrors. You have nothing but complaints because you are being far too idealistic about human beings and religion. Life is a continual process of interrogation and analysis, of perpetually working towards better solutions but perfect solutions are a pipe dream. We try our best, if that’s not good enough for you then you may as well give up now.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 2, 2024 10:00 pm

I note that Mr Rotten, who only three days prior was lambasting people of faith (‘it’s all BS’) on Easter Sunday has decided to pull his tiny head in on this subject when faced with the debate conducted today by far bigger dogs.

It’s really quite interesting to watch – or not watch, considering the part time bovver boy’s studied silence on the matter.

Thought as much.

rosie
rosie
April 2, 2024 10:07 pm

“and then she goes on to explain how she knows what other peoples prayers are for”
This is because I’m a regular church goer and guess what we do at church? One part of the mass is even called ‘prayers of the faithful’.
It also comes from reading hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of prayer requests on various international Catholic prayer forums over many years.

Prayers for trivia are in the praying for Star Wars Lego for your birthday category. Mature Christians don’t do it.
Perhaps you could do some of that maturity thing yourself instead of always reactively lashing out at people you don’t like.

m0nty
m0nty
April 2, 2024 10:12 pm

Mr Hankey apparently owns a lot of Trump’s debt, after refinancing a bunch of loans as well. Which means he owns Trump. Or he’s going to get screwed, like everyone else Trump comes in contact with.

It is patently ridiculous that someone can run for POTUS carrying a nine-figure debt to one man. An unserious country in many ways.

Baba
Baba
April 2, 2024 10:17 pm

Mature Christians.

Those aware of their imminent demise?

Baba
Baba
April 2, 2024 10:25 pm

Christianity with so many purported reasons to kill those who do not share a particular belief set. There are Buddhist sects of various kinds and Islam is just plain nuts.

What about the mob who believe they’re God’s chosen people?

Arky
April 2, 2024 10:26 pm

There have been thousands of variations of Christianity with so many purported reasons to kill those who do not share a particular belief set. 

..
You have yet to explain why, according to your beliefs this would be any problem at all.
And are unable to do so.
So again, for the fifth time, tell me why anyone should listen to you when you attempt to expound on morality, ethics or the good of humanity?
Because you “feel” like you know what’s good for everyone?

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 2, 2024 10:27 pm

It is patently ridiculous that someone can run for POTUS carrying a nine-figure debt to one man. An unserious country in many ways.

This would be rather like you running for dog-catcher at the local council while owing the postman a dollar fifty. Not really a big deal.

Arky
April 2, 2024 10:38 pm

Religionists disagree all the time. Even with a specific denomination there are disagreements. 

..
Yes.
So what?
You’re not getting it.
Other than your feelings, which according to you are evolved to help you survive in social situations, something that no one else except you cares about, you have zero that you can point to as a basis for a moral judgement about anything.
So why would I care what you think about morality?
Why would anyone care about how you feel about anything? Why would anyone ask you about the rights or wrongs of any given situation, especially situations you yourself have an interest in?
As long as I can satisfy the evolutionary requirement to convince others to agree with my moral judgement I can, by your own logic, do anything to you. Correct?

Last edited 17 days ago by Arky
John H.
John H.
April 2, 2024 10:40 pm

Arky

 April 2, 2024 10:26 pm

There have been thousands of variations of Christianity with so many purported reasons to kill those who do not share a particular belief set. 

..

You have yet to explain why, according to your beliefs this would be any problem at all.

And are unable to do so.

So again, for the fifth time, tell me why anyone should listen to you when you attempt to expound on morality, ethics or the good of humanity?

Because you “feel” like you know what’s good for everyone?

Why should anyone listen to you or old men? Why listen to anyone on the subject? I tell you what’s good. That I will have the opportunity to work with brilliant people to find solutions for people suffering health problems. That’s enough for me. Whether or not people care about my morality is irrelevant. I’m doing something that helps other people. It makes me feel good, it will make other people feel good. That’s good enough for me.

You still haven’t got it. You are in desperate need of a metaphysical belief system. Go to church, become a Buddhist, whatever, but for the last time recognize that there is no perfect answer. No religion, no philosophy, no political system, has or will ever provide that. Get used to that.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 2, 2024 10:44 pm

What about the mob who believe they’re God’s chosen people?

Aaaand here we go.

Arky
April 2, 2024 11:02 pm

It makes me feel good

..
It’s good because it makes you feel good.
This is the basis of your “moral” system?
Precisely the same basis as, say, Ted Bundy.

Arky
April 2, 2024 11:07 pm

At least we got past the “because it’s good for humanity” bullshit.

Arky
April 2, 2024 11:12 pm

Why should anyone listen to you or old men? 

..
I asked you first.

Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
April 2, 2024 11:40 pm

Our Prime Minister seems to be more upset about the death of one Australian “aid worker” who deliberately put herself in harms way, than one thousand Israelis who did not, and still were murdered.
If he did it for himself I would have less of a problem, but because he and our Foreign Minister have put us (Australia) on the world stage as being highly emotive and selective in who we mourn.

MatrixTransform
April 2, 2024 11:46 pm

This is because I’m a regular church goer

no rosie, it’s because you’re a hypocrite

you literally complained that somebody couldn’t possibly know what somebody else was praying

and then claimed that you, because you’re a special case, do

… these are not the droids you’re looking for

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MatrixTransform
April 2, 2024 11:51 pm

instead of always reactively lashing out at people you don’t like

… I don’t like hypocrites

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Arky
April 3, 2024 12:01 am

I don’t like hypocrites
..
Sure, but at least the hypocrites have some basis for knowing right and wrong.
With the atheists you are completely at the mercy of what they can convince themselves is for the “good of humanity” based on what makes them feel good.

MatrixTransform
April 3, 2024 12:06 am

at the mercy of what they can convince themselves is for the “good of humanity” based on what makes them feel good

 
 I’d say that both camps in the argument on these pages are falling into fallacious traps

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 3, 2024 12:10 am

Seven allegedly reimbursed Bruce Lehrmann for drugs, prostitutes
By stephen rice

  • NSW Editor

and ellie dudley

  • Legal Affairs Correspondent
  • 10:52PM April 2, 2024

The Seven Network allegedly reimbursed Bruce Lehrmann for illicit drugs and prostitutes while persuading him to hand over his exclusive interview rights, Network 10 claimed on Tuesday night, after winning its eleventh-hour bid to reopen its defamation trial with the former Liberal staffer.
The Federal Court on Tuesday heard explosive claims from disgruntled former Seven producer Taylor Auerbach that Seven ­destroyed documents that should have been produced during the defamation case, which Mr Lehrmann had taken against Ten and presenter Lisa Wilkinson.
It now appears judgment in the defamation case will be delayed until early next week after judge Michael Lee accepted it would be necessary to hear evidence from Auerbach and subject him to cross-examination over his extraordinary allegations.
Ten broadcast on Tuesday night allegations from Auerbach that Seven handed Mr Lehrmann a series of previously undisclosed benefits in exchange for exclusive interview rights, including more than $10,000 in massages. The perks also included a $401 round of golf in Tasmania, a $450 dinner at Spice Temple in the Sydney CBD and a $518 dinner at Potts Point institution, Franca.
The claims, which have not yet been tested in court but were aired on 10 News First, also included that Seven reimbursed Mr Lehrmann for illicit drugs and prostitutes at a Sydney brothel in January last year.

MatrixTransform
April 3, 2024 12:18 am

I’m an athiest in the sense that there’s no direct proof of nuthin

and I’m agnostic in the sense that Zoroastrians and Catholics have their differences

spent Easter fixing the front gates

took the trailer to the daughter’s to pick up stuff cos she’s moving again.

got home with the load and I’m about to reverse that psycho little 6×4 and I’m skiting about how finally i can see the load and that this will be too easy

got the little bugger arse-in and the sun streams through the rear window of the car and and i cant seen the corner of the psycho anymore

…reckon im ok …just a little bit more … damn hit the gate

no probs, I’ll just forward and square up
yeah … nah

corner of the trailer hooked the wrought iron gates and the tiny forward movement of the car literally shattered the bricks at the bottom of the gate hinge and tore the whole lot off.
had to chisel out 3 bricks from the pillar and set new ones in their place

best long weekend evah

hanging the gate today and I prayed

chocks and levers and welding and tapered roller bearings that had spat their rollers … I prayed that I had one more 10mm loxin in the the garage
 
praise the lord the gates are risen

MatrixTransform
April 3, 2024 12:43 am

I prayed that I had one more 10mm loxin in the the garage

Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 3, 2024 3:27 am

Mark Dice:

They’re Coming for the Christians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjR0k4jox8

Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 4:06 am

A.F. Branco. Brilliant.

Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 4:07 am
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Tom
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Tom
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Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 3, 2024 4:50 am

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
April 3, 2024 5:57 am

highly emotive and selective in who we mourn.
Right on!
Where was the outrage for years and years while Hamas and their minions (aka Gazan civilians) sent rockets – lots of them – over the border into Israel.
Were there “civilians” in any of the buildings that the USAF bombed during the 2003 war in Iraq?
Saddam was a hostage taker and attacked Israel with SCUD missiles, but the media for the most part didn’t care.
Accidents happened when the US attacked Serbia – a train was hit because it crossed a bridge at the wrong moment.
The Beeb is now engaging in “conspiracy theory talk” that Israel wanted to stop humanitarian aid to Gaza.
Our media attacked Tony Abbott for saying that in the Middle East it’s often bad guys fighting other bad guys.

johanna
johanna
April 3, 2024 6:45 am

Test

johanna
johanna
April 3, 2024 6:54 am

Still on the WordPress naughty step, I see.

‘Awaiting for approval’ – the kind of ungrammatical crap produced by (i) barely literate graduates of our propaganda factories; or (b) US AI, including those who wrote it.

Hardly in the tradition of Catallaxy.

johanna
johanna
April 3, 2024 7:13 am

When her fixed interest rate ended in 2022, Mim Fox’s mortgage on her two-bedroom apartment shot up by $1,200 a month.
As a single mother of two, it wasn’t long before the bills started to get on top of her.
“I was really thinking about this all the time. It became a very stressful period of my life,” she said.
When she went into her local bank branch to ask for hardship assistance, she said the staff seemed ill-equipped to help.
She was directed to a generic online form but after filling it out she never heard back.
“I was effectively cut loose by the bank to just go and survive and struggle on my own,” she said.
Under national codes of practice, banks are required to help customers who are experiencing financial difficulty.
But Ms Fox is one of a rising number of people who are struggling with the way banks and other financial institutions manage hardship requests.

Her payments went up $300 a week? What ‘single mother of two’ (idiot) takes on a loan like that?

Bad decisions after bad decisions.
?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 3, 2024 7:17 am

That Broelman cartoon is highly disrespectful to Christians at Easter and a disgusting take on the Gaza conflict.
What a snivelling sanctimonious prick.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
April 3, 2024 7:25 am

Wong is “outraged”. What words did she use about the October 7th massacre, rapes and hostage-taking?

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 7:42 am

Idiocy dialled up to 11:

‘Australia faces postwar-style reconstruction to reach net zero target, says Combet’

The Guardian

calli
calli
April 3, 2024 7:43 am

It’s unfortunate that the Australian aid worker got caught in the crossfire in a theatre of war and her death saddens me.

The hand wringing by the usual suspects surprises me not at all. They will look for anything, anything at all to beat Netanyahu with, and this is as handy a stick as any.

Meanwhile, I can’t help but compare the pair. The young lady went to Gaza knowing full well that the work might be dangerous. How else could you describe aid work in a war zone? Shani Louk (amongst many other young women) went to a concert.

Anyone would think the Israelis deliberately targeted her, raped, tortured and murdered her for their sick pleasure and then paraded her broken, plundered body for shits and giggles.

I can’t see how Australia can offer protection to people who decide to do this type of work, apart from refusing them passage out of the country. They go there at their own risk.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
April 3, 2024 7:47 am

From the latest edition of Quadrant:
The alienation of our political bodies from the people they claim to serve is growing wider, and like the Voice in Australia, the Progressives deny it at their peril.

The thing that never happens just happened again,” wrote Kevin Williamson, a former National Review colleague who decamped not long ago to a more Trump-sceptic magazine, the Dispatch, about a previously unclassified phenomenon in American journalism. I haven’t been able to track down via Google the story around which Kevin had created this wider classification—my vague memory is that it was about voter fraud—but a lot of stories can be comfortably fitted into this definition.

More and more in fact. In an age of ideologically partisan journalism, reporters want to persuade their readers of various general truths rather than merely report accurately the stories that come their way. Disobligingly, sometimes those stories contradict the larger truths they wish to advance. What then happens is a test of their “journalistic ethics” which really come down to telling the truth. Do they tell the little truths? Or protect the larger Truth?

Here’s a fairly light example. The Atlantic recently published an article by a former opinion editor of the New York Times, Adam Rubenstein—a conservative hired to bring greater ideological diversity to the paper’s opinion pages—who revealed that at an orientation session for new hires he had been humiliated for saying that his (second) favourite sandwich was a Chick Fil A spicy chicken one. Chick Fil A is a bête noire to young progressives because its owner is a socially conservative Christian. An human resources manager on the NYT reproved poor Rubenstein, who tried to make amends by pleading that it was only the sandwich he liked. To no avail. He was greeted with a collective snapping of fingers signifying disapproval from the other new hires.

This little anecdote provoked a storm of controversy—and denials—in the small but important world of elite East Coast media. “Never happened,” said Nikole Hannah-Jones, currently one of the NYT’s most celebrated writers, being responsible for the paper’s radical “1619 Project” that makes preserving slavery a central purpose of the American Founding. “Egregiously fake,” added another NYT writer. Others joined in. Rubenstein’s journalistic career might have ended there and then. But when the Atlantic re-checked the story, it got confirmations of it from other NYT staffers. Rubenstein survived; the NYT was damaged.

What does the episode say about those senior NYT editors and writers who denied that the story could possibly be true? Maybe they should have waited to hear the Atlantic’s defence of the anecdote. After all, it’s a magazine with a claim to high editorial standards. But as Hannah-Jones said, she knew the story was false because she had worked for years on NYT and it sounded incredible to her.

On the one hand, that’s an understandable defensive reaction; on the other hand, now that we know the story was true, it seems to confirm the widespread criticism of the NYT, levelled by some ex-readers and former writers, that its moral atmosphere is toxic for both conservatives and classical liberals. In particular, the charge that its editorial direction and standards are unduly influenced by an angry collective of puritanical left-wing junior editors echoes such earlier moments as the rebellion of young staffers that led to the withdrawal of an op-ed from a Republican Senator calling for troops to control the riots of 2020, the attachment of an onsite apology for the proposed op-ed, and the forced departure of opinion editors responsible for editing it.

Never happened? Couldn’t happen? In short, the thing that never happens had happened again.

Now, that’s a kind of boutique story dealing with a very “first world” problem and reflecting the “luxury beliefs” of the junior progressive political class in New York. Let’s move across the Atlantic to look at a larger social reality: the results in early March of two Irish referendums on amending the 1937 Constitution on marriage and the family.

Here’s how the Associated Press described in advance what the amendments would do:

“The first vote deals with a part of the constitution that pledges to protect the family as the primary unit of society. Voters are being asked to remove a reference to marriage as the basis ‘on which the family is founded’ and replace it with a clause that says families can be founded ‘on marriage or on other durable relationships’. If passed, it will be the 39th amendment to Ireland’s Constitution.

“The second change—a proposed 40th amendment—would remove a reference to women’s role in the home as a key support to the state, and delete a statement that ‘mothers shall not be obliged by economic necessity to engage in labor to the neglect of their duties in the home’. It would add a clause saying the state will strive to support ‘the provision of care by members of a family to one another’.”

Not trivial changes. The Irish government announced in December 2023 that the referendums would be held on March 8. After which an absurdly one-sided campaign in favour of a Yes/Yes vote, supported by all major political parties, almost the entire media, almost all cultural institutions and Irish business created a general expectation of a clear victory for both amendments.

On the day, however, the 39th and 40th amendments were rejected by 67.7 per cent and 73.9 per cent of voters respectively.

That was the thing that never happens, at least not in socially progressive modern Ireland, which has learnt from successful referendums enabling divorce and same-sex marriage that there are no limits to moral progress. That breezy assumption, however, has collided with other Irish realities: 70 per cent of the Irish still describe themselves as Catholics; and woke attempts to reshape all Ireland’s families along “gender equality” lines were bound to meet more resistance than social reforms that could be (and were) successfully presented as not interfering with other people’s personal decisions.

Voters, moreover, have come to suspect political and legal language that’s presented as modest, because the courts and other state bodies later fill in the spaces between the words with costly and even oppressive meanings. Precisely that is now happening in Ireland over migration and asylum policy which prioritises the claims of asylum-seekers in social housing and benefits over the needs of locals who finance them. It has led to the alienation from politicians and state bodies of large sections of the electorate.

As often happens when divisions in public opinion are not reflected in political debate and party divisions, talented outsiders come to the fore and take up one side or another—in this case, the No/No side. Defenders of the No/No case were the Catholic Church (which ran a recognisably Catholic campaign in defence of the traditional family), a small but feisty magazine, Gript, that raised all the issues the mainstream Irish media nervously avoided, one small insurgent pro-life party, a bloc of independent MPs, and two brilliant lawyers: Michael McDowell, a former Justice Minister, and Maria Steen. McDowell made hay of the proposal to extend the rights and privileges of marriage to “durable” relationships, asking such questions as “How long is durable?” and “How many durable relationships can someone have at any one time?” Steen grabbed the banner of women’s rights away from the state-financed National Council of Women, wondering why its only interest in stay-at-home mothers was to persuade them to work outside it.

This tiny rag-tag company of talented outsiders defeated the vast, glossy, government-subsidised engine of progressive opinion because they better represented what most Irish people thought. At which point the leading figures in the Yes/Yes campaign suddenly realised it really hadn’t happened or it would soon be forgotten. Ivana Bacik, Ireland’s Labour leader, said the voters had agreed with the principles behind the amendments but had been “confused” by the details. If so, why did popular support for the Yes/Yes side fall as voters learned more about the details? Surely that was why Prime Minister Varadkar chose a short campaign and soothing assurances that the amendments were mainly about modernising the outdated language of the 1937 Constitution rather than enshrining “gender equality” in family law as he said in December.

Something big has changed—the thing that never happens. It never happens in Ireland because the new progressive regime has been increasingly rooted less in the consent of the governed than in the consent of socially progressive NGOs. Two years ago in the Critic, Ross Fitzgerald estimated that the Irish state funds an enormous number of NGOs “to the tune of around €5 billion every year, comprising 8 per cent of the national budget”. It’s probably much higher now.

He pointed out that they are almost exclusively socially progressive—no money goes to conservative NGOs—and increasingly so: “The National Council of Women recently signed a letter asking the Government to no-platform gender critical voices.” Almost none of these institutions have roots in genuine popular support—indeed, hostility to the NGO empire is a strong feature of internet debate.

And now the thing that never happens is not only happening, it’s picking up speed. Some politicians this week have noticed this political failure of the Woke-NGO establishment and expressed disquiet that they might be on the side of the wrong kind of public opinion. There’s an election looming in which the governing parties’ woke records on immigration, multiculturalism and “hate speech” are already electoral handicaps. And now Elon Musk is joining the fight against Ireland’s draconian hate speech legislation.

Things that never happen may soon be one damn thing after another.

Vicki
Vicki
April 3, 2024 7:49 am

Well said Pogria! Husband and I have been suffering watching the outrage of MSM “journos” on the morning Teev.

It is a damn war ( love the way these guys call it a “conflict zone”) for heavens sake. Every journo knows you take your chances. But no – Israel has to operate under different rules, according to their critics.They are damn good at what they do – but they make mistakes. The best eg of this is the tragic shooting of the Israeli prisoners who were trying to tell Israeli forces who they were.

Yet just about every news report this morning is condemning Israel. Where are people’s ability to think dispassionately?

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 7:53 am

There have been thousands of variations of Christianity with so many purported reasons to kill those who do not share a particular belief set. 

You’re confusing politics with Christianity.

There is no imperative in the Gospels to kill those with whom one disagrees.

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Vicki
Vicki
April 3, 2024 7:54 am

And also Calli – well said. Husband said the same this morning – where was the outrage for the girls who went to the concert? They were not in a war zone – or so they thought.

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 7:56 am

Where are people’s ability to think dispassionately?

Dispassionate thought and antisemitism have rarely been seen together.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
April 3, 2024 7:57 am

Keith Wolahan (Lib) must have special glasses which allow him to tell which gazans are civilians. Julian Hill (Lab) told Stefanovic on Sky that there must be a two state solution. Stefanovic, good on him, said that a two state solution was not what the Pallies want, they want to wipe Israel off the map!
I’ve said many times that Gaza was the trial run for a two state situation and they blew it big time, well before the October 7th Outrage.

calli
calli
April 3, 2024 7:57 am

I’m struggling with the animosity towards Rosie on the prayer issue.

How can she be a hypocrite for simply describing her experience in both church and prayer groups of how others in her circle pray and what types of prayers and petitions they say?

I can imagine Matrix sending up a “please, please don’t let me hit that fence post” type of prayer! The same sort of thing that I used to pray for spaces in crowded parking lots. And still sometimes do. Utilitarian type prayers, like the ones for sunny days for the [insert event here]. They’re prayed the world over.

You know you’ve turned a faith corner when the prayer changes to align with God’s will in your circumstances, either to supply your request or something else – calm, tolerance, even skill to fix the thing you’ve broken. They’re both answers, just different. And, of course, “no” is also an answer.

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 8:13 am

Germany is reforming its citizenship laws and will seek to exclude antisemites from naturalisation.

Questions about the Holocaust, Israel’s founding and post-war Germany’s historic support for the nation’s existence will feature in interviews.

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 3, 2024 8:17 am

I note that J K Rowling had a win of sorts. After daring the Scottish police to arrest her for the awful crime of ‘misgendering’ under their new ‘hate crime’ laws, po po have declined to do so. One of her tweets here.

shatterzzz
April 3, 2024 8:17 am

Sooooo, apparently, “plenty wrong” is upset over the death of an Oz aid worker in Gaza & has waffled displeasure with the Israelis .. now .. that’s all well & good throwing in a bit of chest pounding and long distance shirt fronting .. BUT .. if memory serves me at least one Oz died during the 7 October massacre by Hamas/Gaza “innocents” but I can’t recall “the chap” squealing “foul play” at Hamas or baring the chest (thank God!) in a metaphorical way at Hamas …..
Sooooo, a loud outrage for Israel but a lot less subdued outrage for Hamas ..! It’s the Labor way … picking selective “fights” ……

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 3, 2024 8:18 am

Tweet here

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 3, 2024 8:22 am

As usual the Left doesn’t like any message that challenges them so they immediately go for the censor hammer.

Climate Alarmists Battle To Censor Film Exposing ‘Climate Crisis Scam’ (3 Apr)

“The [V]imeo link to ‘Climate the Movie’ I shared two days ago has been censored!” Nir Shaviv, a physics professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem who appeared in the film, posted on X. “Fully removed beyond the mere shadow blocking [YouTube] has.”

To be fair Vimeo put it back up again after being challenged, perhaps to avoid the Streisand effect. I don’t know if Goolag and YouTube are still censoring it. Again the Left cannot counter the arguments, since they’re the truth, so they persecute anyone saying it.

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calli
calli
April 3, 2024 8:29 am

Thanks for the reminder, Shatterzzz.

Galit Carbone, 66, was murdered by Hamas on Oct 7. Her crime? Living in a kibbutz and being Jewish.

My Google-fu is insufficiently advanced enough to find any statement about her by our Foreign Minister.

At least the ABC reported her death.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-21/australian-woman-galit-carbone-murdered-by-hamas-farewelled/103005266

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 3, 2024 8:29 am

Calli @ 7.43, I agree wholeheartedly, with reference to Arky yesterday my morality on this subject has no bearing coz I’m not religious. This sort of reasoning from the unhinged is one of the things that turn people away from religion. I’ve seen too much of it and I don’t like it. These people demean themselves and the the Faith in God they perport to have.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 3, 2024 8:30 am

m0nty

 April 2, 2024 9:23 pm

So I see America is now in the situation where Trump is running for President despite owing $175M to a used car salesman called Mr Hankey.

LOL. The purveyor of fantasy football as the new opiate of the masses, and Economics 1 failure, turns out to be an intellectual snob.

johanna
johanna
April 3, 2024 8:34 am

Stevie Ray reminding social warriors how much rednecks hate, despise and disregard blacks.

Nup Wouldn’t load.

I keep getting the last quote, even though I didn’t use the quote function.

Still, as arranged, nobody will read this on a fast moving blog..

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 3, 2024 8:34 am

BB, just another freak thinking they’re special so they can carry-on with their depraved activities.

rosie
rosie
April 3, 2024 8:34 am

The IDF cannot make a mistake ever.
Meanwhile where is the condemnation of Hamas for embedding with civilians, including aid workers?
I wouldn’t put it past them to deliberately put foreign aid workers in harms way so the IDF would target them.

rosie
rosie
April 3, 2024 8:37 am

Oh and if aid workers knowingly allowed hamas to hitch rides in their vehicles, it’s on them.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 3, 2024 8:41 am

I have never, ever heard of Samantha Mostyn. Nonetheless, Elbow just announced her as this wide brown land’s new GG.

She’s off to a poor start on two fronts:

1. She kicked off her maiden speech with a WTC; and
2. She bears a striking resemblance to Mrs Doubtfire.

calli
calli
April 3, 2024 8:43 am

Aid workers, by the very definition, are in harms way. They volunteer for the work because it aligns with their convictions and because it’s in a risky place where they believe people need their assistance.

Anyone who goes thinking that they will be “safe” is sadly deluded. In this case, she was near a nest of vipers that was being cleared. It is also a fact that aid workers are at risk from the very people they seek to serve, particularly young women.

They have to go into these places very clear headed, not starry-eyed about what they will find there.

Dot
Dot
April 3, 2024 8:43 am

If we’re talking about religions:

Medium sent me a silly article about how “Christians ignore this text!”.

It took me two seconds to find a popular Catholic reference on it.

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/fathers/view.cfm?recnum=1922

Jason and Papiscus.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 3, 2024 8:47 am

A single photo of Tesla cars queued at a charging station over the Easter weekend shows the problem Aussies could face if the government decides to ditch petrol cars. 

At least 10 electric vehicles were seen lined up in the rural town of Keith, in South Australia, with drivers waiting to use public charging stations.

One TikTok user shared a video which showed the cars lined up with the caption: ‘Buy a Tesla they said.’

Daily Mail

calli
calli
April 3, 2024 8:48 am

Poor old Hatey MacHateface can’t even bear me talking about a murdered granny and printing her name.

Shame on you.

Indolent
Indolent
April 3, 2024 8:56 am

If you don’t subscribe to TCM, the full Tucker Carlson interview with Dr. Michael Nehls can be viewed on YouTube here. It’s only 48 minutes long, the rest is older stuff.

Indolent
Indolent
April 3, 2024 8:59 am
Indolent
Indolent
April 3, 2024 9:02 am
m0nty
m0nty
April 3, 2024 9:03 am

Florida is in play for November. You heard it here first.

Crossie
Crossie
April 3, 2024 9:08 am

Roger

 April 3, 2024 7:42 am

Idiocy dialled up to 11:

‘Australia faces postwar-style reconstruction to reach net zero target, says Combet’

The Guardian

Let’s fix it then:
‘Australia faces postwar-style reconstruction to recover from net zero target,

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 9:08 am

I have never, ever heard of Samantha Mostyn. Nonetheless, Elbow just announced her as this wide brown land’s new GG.

Climate worrier, “gender equity advocate” & all-round Labor luvvie.

It’s skin suit time.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 3, 2024 9:10 am

Couldn’t be much worse than Bryce poison.

Indolent
Indolent
April 3, 2024 9:13 am
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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 3, 2024 9:14 am
Indolent
Indolent
April 3, 2024 9:16 am
calli
calli
April 3, 2024 9:16 am

all-round Labor luvvie.

Had a look at her Wiki entry. Can’t see any industry employment at all – apart from being in Michael Kirby’s office. All the rest is government advising and corporate board sinecures.

Nice to see someone with the finger on the pulse of ordinary Aussies achieve such an exalted position.

😀

Tom
Tom
April 3, 2024 9:16 am

The major reason “businsswoman” Samantha Mostyn is Australia’s new governor-general appears to be that, like the entire cabinet of the Elbow trade union regime that appointed her, she is a climate change loon.

Plus the obligatory vagina.

Baba
Baba
April 3, 2024 9:17 am

rosie

 April 3, 2024 8:37 am

Oh and if aid workers knowingly allowed hamas to hitch rides in their vehicles, it’s on them.

I thought the strike was an unfortunate mistake. Are you suggesting it was deliberate?

Indolent
Indolent
April 3, 2024 9:18 am

They’re moving fast to catch up with the other lunatics.

Poland’s new government set to crack down on “hate speech”.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
April 3, 2024 9:18 am

https://youtu.be/qz4oNz4JVwo
This is what it takes to keep leftists and Islamists from trashing it.

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 9:20 am

All the rest is government advising and corporate board sinecures.

‘It’s a big club and you’re not in it.’

Baba
Baba
April 3, 2024 9:22 am

Climate worrier, “gender equity advocate” & all-round Labor luvvie.

Holy Billy redux. She won’t shut up.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 3, 2024 9:24 am

Black Ball

JK has more balls than the “women” shes mentioning.
Must be nice to have FO money

shatterzzz
April 3, 2024 9:25 am

Yet just about every news report this morning is condemning Israel. Where are people’s ability to think dispassionately?

The media stopped remembering 7 October long ago as they pursued their Israel bad agenda .. reading the “news” from scratch today and you’d be convinced that Israel launched an unprovoked attack on Gaza “innocents” cos they felt like it …….. look at this week’s whinge-ing over the Shifa Hospital, lotza pix of damage and details of the state of the place after the Israeli withdrawal .. nuttin’ about Hamas using it as a military base …!

Crossie
Crossie
April 3, 2024 9:26 am

I can imagine Matrix sending up a “please, please don’t let me hit that fence post” type of prayer! The same sort of thing that I used to pray for spaces in crowded parking lots. And still sometimes do. Utilitarian type prayers, like the ones for sunny days for the [insert event here]. They’re prayed the world over.

Calli, I don’t pray for a parking spot but I do thank God when there is one.

Crossie
Crossie
April 3, 2024 9:29 am

Roger

 April 3, 2024 8:13 am

Germany is reforming its citizenship laws and will seek to exclude antisemites from naturalisation.

Questions about the Holocaust, Israel’s founding and post-war Germany’s historic support for the nation’s existence will feature in interviews.

Are they familiar with the concept of takiya? Perhaps that’s the loophole in their law.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 3, 2024 9:31 am

This is funny.
AI used for good not evil.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKLbTRNXQAA3-V-?format=jpg&name=small

Crossie
Crossie
April 3, 2024 9:40 am

Roger

 April 3, 2024 9:20 am

All the rest is government advising and corporate board sinecures.

‘It’s a big club and you’re not in it.’

There is another club that is never open to the likes of ordinary people, Qantas Chairman’s Lounge. If you watch who goes in there you know that they are not likely to care about how their decisions affect everybody else.

Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
April 3, 2024 9:42 am

Poland Set to End Coal-Fired Power Generation

I don’t think so. Sounds like someone’s wishful thinking.

If so it is only because they are burning Russian gas which they may reconsider.

And note, no mention on the heating plants that burn coal to provide hot water to the radiators in the metro buildings.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 3, 2024 9:44 am

The major reason “businsswoman” Samantha Mostyn is Australia’s new governor-general appears to be that, like the entire cabinet of the Elbow trade union regime that appointed her, she is a climate change loon.
Plus the obligatory vagina.

At last Linda Burney didn’t get the job.

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 9:44 am

…with reference to Arky yesterday my morality on this subject has no bearing coz I’m not religious.

Was that his argument?

As I recall, the subject was the ultimate basis of moral judgments, not that the moral judgments of atheists or agnostics have no weight.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 3, 2024 9:45 am

Speech in Scotland: gagged, but not silent.

Scotch hate speech polis are going to have their hands full
on the 7th when Rangers play Celtic at home.

Crossie
Crossie
April 3, 2024 9:45 am

…….. look at this week’s whinge-ing over the Shifa Hospital, lotza pix of damage and details of the state of the place after the Israeli withdrawal .. nuttin’ about Hamas using it as a military base …!

I saw the images from the news reports, there were hundreds of men, no women, milling around the wreckage, nobody was actually doing anything. It was like they are just spectators there, that it was somebody else’s job to clean up.

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 9:49 am

Sam Mostyn is anti-coal and supports banks not funding coal mines.

Labor appears not to have internalised the result of the 2019 election, when QLD coal miners told Bill Shorten where to get off.

Chortle!

MatrixTransform
April 3, 2024 9:50 am

How can she be a hypocrite for simply describing her experience in both church and prayer groups of how others in her circle pray and what types of prayers and petitions they say?

and rosie preceded her words with

How could you possibly know what the ‘great majority of prayers’ are for?

so I’m struggling with the dismissive scorn in that comment
and the simplistic the in-group preference that it belies

hoc in loco Deus rupes … rosie doesn’t need to ask the supreme being for insight

calli
calli
April 3, 2024 10:01 am

I saw it as a fair question, Matrix.

I don’t know what the majority of prayers are for, but I’d hazard a guess that it’s a mixed bag of faith-filled ones and utilitarian “I’ll give it a go” type ones.

It was the accusation hypocrisy that caught my attention.

Still struggling with framing questions and answers here in such a way as to not offend, but it’s a losing battle without a dedicated “not being terse or mean, just using words to convey ideas” typeface.

MatrixTransform
April 3, 2024 10:04 am

a “please, please don’t let me hit that fence post” type of prayer!

lord,

your benevolence has gifted me with the psycho 6×4 so that I may do many good deeds

but seriously dude are you taking the p155 … can you please hold off on the sun-beams until i’ve got the trailer up the driveway?

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 3, 2024 10:05 am

It was like they are just spectators there, that it was somebody else’s job to clean up.

Emblematic of the Palis’ entire history.
Prior to Partiton, their forebears were more interested in recreational looting and massacre, than forming a functional state.
That was somebody else’s job.

shatterzzz
April 3, 2024 10:07 am

A normal shopping day .. LOL!

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calli
calli
April 3, 2024 10:08 am

If you are attempting to reverse a trailer, I have no advice for you at all.

When towing, I am a shark. Can only move in a forward direction.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 3, 2024 10:13 am

It is patently ridiculous that someone can run for POTUS carrying a nine-figure debt to one man. An unserious country in many ways.

The first sentence demonstrates why mUnturd failed Economics 1. He doesn’t comprehend the need to balance liabilities against assets.

The second sentence is a rare moment of truth. Any nation that seeks to re-elect a geriatric sniffer of little girls’ hair is truly unserious, but only the part of it with that plan, that is, the DemonRats and their supporters.

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 10:15 am

Oh and if aid workers knowingly allowed hamas to hitch rides in their vehicles, it’s on them.

I’ll put this up as a general comment, not assuming anything in regard to the incident in Gaza…

In international law, if civilians take part in hostilities during a time of war they forfeit their privileged status; i.e. they become legitimate targets of lethal force.

Because of ambiguities as to what constitutes “taking part in hostilities” in asymmetrical conflicts, the Obama administration passed a law stating that anyone who materially supports hostile actions against the US is an “enemy belligerent.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 3, 2024 10:19 am

I saw the images from the news reports, there were hundreds of men, no women, milling around the wreckage, nobody was actually doing anything. It was like they are just spectators there, that it was somebody else’s job to clean up.

Crossie

It is. The UN, US, Israel and aid workers. Hamarse don’t do productive things.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 3, 2024 10:20 am

From the Tele about the Albo nepotism…

Australia’s next governor-general will be businesswoman, climate change advocate and former Labor staffer Sam Mostyn AO.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese made the announcement via Twitter/X Wednesday morning, revealing that King Charles III had approved his recommendation of Ms Mostyn to the position.
At a press conference, he told reporters Ms Mostyn will be the second woman in history to hold the position.
“Sam Mostyn is an exceptional leader who represents the best of modern Australia,” he said.
“She has lived her life in the service of a powerful Australian principle.
“When more people have the opportunity to fulfil their potential, our nation is a better place.
“This understanding has driven Sam’s tireless advocacy for gender equality, particularly in the world of business, for women’s safety and reconciliation.”

Ms Mostyn is well known in corporate circles for her advocacy for gender equity and climate issues, serving on the board of the Climate Council as well as major corporates including Mirvac and Transurban as well as the Sydney Swans.

Ms Mostyn was appointed an Officer of the order of Australia in 2021 for her “distinguished service to business, community and women.”

Ms Mostyn was also one of the elite businesspeople who scored a ticket on Mr Albanese’s jet to Canberra last year from the Business Council of Australia’s annual dinner to Labor’s Jobs and Skills Summit the next day.

.The high flying corporate board member, who also describes herself as a “sustainability adviser” began her career as a solicitor a Freehills as well as Gilbert + Tobin.
She also worked as a policy adviser to former Labor senator Bob Collins when he was Paul Keating’s transportation minister.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
April 3, 2024 10:22 am

calli  April 3, 2024 10:08 am

If you are attempting to reverse a trailer, I have no advice for you at all.

When towing, I am a shark. Can only move in a forward direction.

Ummm…. so.. er.. how do you get your boat off the trailer & into the water?

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
April 3, 2024 10:26 am

Is it just me or have we just been landed with the least worthy GG ever? Emblematic of ‘modern’ Australia I guess.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 3, 2024 10:31 am

Roger, Arky from 8.18 last night in his rant with JohnH and subsequent comments.

Indolent
Indolent
April 3, 2024 10:42 am
Dot
Dot
April 3, 2024 10:42 am

Oh my. Know thy enemy.

This is the person censoring you. This is the person calling you a Nazi and a criminal.

Their claims are rather dubious at times.

No joke if I ever post anything important, this is it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/17mahe5/comment/k7ldqpg/

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/steven-joel-akins-penelope-penny-verity-oaken-u-bardfinn-penny-witchette-finning-widget-mutabilesemper.85310/

This shows why Reddit will never be profitable.

Indolent
Indolent
April 3, 2024 10:44 am
Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 10:47 am

Roger, Arky from 8.18 last night in his rant with JohnH and subsequent comments.

OK….just checked.

Arky is pressing John on the basis of his moral judgments.

I think you’ve misconstrued his argument.

For my part, if an atheist makes a correct moral judgment it has weight, even if his reasoning is incomplete.

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Dot
Dot
April 3, 2024 10:48 am

Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, we won’t get fooled again!

🙁

Last edited 17 days ago by Dot
calli
calli
April 3, 2024 10:49 am

Sal, I’m not silly enough to own a boat. 😀

John H.
John H.
April 3, 2024 10:50 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 3, 2024 10:50 am

I like how this story has gone completely viral, since it illustrates what a bunch of insufferable Karens the Qld public service is.

Molly the Magpie’s carers receive major update: ‘Happy and healthy’ (News.com.au, 3 Apr)

The Cafe magpies are doing well, although the southern family has left. They’re still around, spending their day in the nearby reserve. I take that to mean they’ve found another cafe which is nearer to their favorite nesting tree. Hopefully those people will have as much enjoyment as I had.

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Dot
Dot
April 3, 2024 10:51 am

(PS – plain text C&P from Wiki…) Take II.

The high flying corporate board member, who also describes herself as a “sustainability adviser” began her career as a solicitor a Freehills as well as Gilbert + Tobin.

?

Republic NOW!

Either directly elect the President, even a ceremonial one; or make the Cabinet system more involved so a President is not needed or automatically selected from the longest-serving State Governor.

(Just out of interest, a good compromise):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Portugal

The powers, functions and duties of prior presidential offices, and their relation with the prime minister and cabinets have over time differed with the various Portuguese constitutions. Currently, in the Third Republic, a semi-presidential system, the president holds no direct executive power, unlike his counterparts in the United States and France. However, he is more than a merely ceremonial figure as is typically the case with parliamentary systems: one of his most significant responsibilities is the promulgation of all laws enacted by the Assembly of the Republic (parliament) or the Government (an act without which such laws have no legal validity), with an alternative option to veto them (although this veto can be overcome in the case of laws approved by Parliament) or send them to the Constitutional Court for appreciation of whether they violate the Constitution. This and other abilities imply that the president of Portugal does not fit clearly into either of the three traditional powers – legislative, executive and judicial –, acting instead as a sort of “moderating power” among the traditional three.

But what if you get Kylie Minogue or Wally Lewis as President?

GOOD!

We wouldn’t have Sam Mostyn as Governor General – designate.

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cohenite
April 3, 2024 10:53 am

Dickless says Florida is in play in November; as he plays with the hole where his dick should be.

In other news more evidence the US judicial system is fuked; look at this prick, another one who should be nuked:

Brooklyn judge claims FDNY firefighters booed Letitia James because she’s black | Daily Mail Online

cohenite
April 3, 2024 10:58 am

Samantha Joy Mostyn AO is an Australian businesswoman and climate change and gender equity advocate

I guess she missed out on the E-Safety Commissioner job which the other kunt got and the G-G job was consolation.

We’re fuked.

Last edited 17 days ago by cohenite
Arky
April 3, 2024 11:00 am

GreyRanga
 April 3, 2024 10:31 am

Roger, Arky from 8.18 last night in his rant with JohnH and subsequent comments.

..
There was no rant.
There was a genuine question to John, which remains unanswered:
Upon what basis does he believe anyone should give any weight to his opinion on morals, given his atheist worldview? A worldview that believes morals are simply an evolved mechanism to survive and reproduce as a social animal. Let’s grant his worldview. What’s in it for me to accept his moral views, given that HIS morals, according to HIM, are for HIS survival and reproductive benefit?
He was unable to answer, because it is built into his worldview that I shouldn’t do so.
Instead he quite remarkably admitted that the only moral grounding he could point to was whatever made him “feel” good or some ridiculous argument that somehow he knew what was good for the rest of humanity, which begs the question of how I, or you or anyone would choose between his view of what was best for humanity and a conflicting view from anyone else who made the same claim, be they Muslim or Christian or Buddhist or even another atheist.
Feel free to address the actual question

Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
April 3, 2024 11:01 am

Top Ender at 8:47

The EV crowd won’t have to queque for long becausebthe goverments are bribing business to install EV chargers.

The latest round of grants is 75% of installation costs of max 2 chargers and 1 year free software subscription to make them work.

No trainer. But…
The incoming aerials can’t take the load neither can the main switchboard.
So a couple of new poles and wires, new switchboard, and meter. Plus civil works for mini car park.
And that capital cost is not covered by “charger installation” grant.

Soon. I will just wait for next bribe plan to be rolled out.

Indolent
Indolent
April 3, 2024 11:03 am

Can anything be done about this?

Something is being done. Why do you think it’s plummeting?

Roger
Roger
April 3, 2024 11:08 am

Birth Rates Are Plummeting in Most Nations, And The World Isn’t Prepared

Can anything be done about this?

You’d have to reverse urbanisation and stigmatise feminism.

I think that’s at least a minority position in some Western countries as people question liquid modernity and experience growing economic insecurity during late stage capitalism.

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m0nty
m0nty
April 3, 2024 11:20 am

Evidence for Florida being in play in 2024:

  • Trump only won it by three points in 2020
  • DeSantis has cacked the bed since his 20-point win
  • DeSantis just passed a six-week abortion ban, ensuring Dobbs is still a live issue
  • Polls may be five points or so Trump’s way but every actual real election result has gone ten points against the polls since Dobbs
John H.
John H.
April 3, 2024 11:23 am

Arky

 April 3, 2024 11:00 am

GreyRanga

 April 3, 2024 10:31 am

Roger, Arky from 8.18 last night in his rant with JohnH and subsequent comments.

..

There was no rant.

There was a genuine question to John, which remains unanswered:

Upon what basis does he believe anyone should give any weight to his opinion on morals, given his atheist worldview? 

Where in life do we achieve absolute finality in a given matter? By your logic let’s stop using mathematics because of incompleteness. Feynman was said no-one understands QM so stop using a computer. We know Newtonian mechanics is incomplete so everyone stop driving cars and building stuff. We don’t even have a good working model of the cell yet treat thousands of medical conditions.

What you have done is copied the religionists who insist on some absolute logical finality to a position when nowhere else in life is that possible. The demand is absurd and betrays an inability to understand that morals, like all our cognitive structures, are human inventions with limitations and inadequacies.

I did not say it was just a matter of making me feel good, I was specifically referencing a project team I have been invited to participate in that potentially could help a huge number of people achieve better health and longevity. Of course that makes me feel good.

FFS I’m not an atheist. I’m an apatheist; although I’m not entirely adverse to the idea of another realm but the traditional concept of God reminds me of what Einstein said about the Bible.

“The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish,” 

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 3, 2024 11:24 am

If you are attempting to reverse a trailer, I have no advice for you at all.
When towing, I am a shark. Can only move in a forward direction.

Dead simple, Calli. Put your hand at the bottom center of the steering wheel. The back of the trailer will move in the same direction as you move your hand.

Dot
Dot
April 3, 2024 11:30 am

Calico Storico Fiorentino.

The best form of FOOTBALL.

Described by King Henry III of France in 1574 as “Too small to be a real war and too cruel to be a game”.

m0nty
m0nty
April 3, 2024 11:31 am

Trump and two co-founders of the newly listed Trump MTG stock suing each other already. So that’s going well.

Arky
April 3, 2024 11:32 am

Where in life do we achieve absolute finality in a given matter?

..
This doesn’t fly. I wasn’t asking for the endpoint of your morality, I was asking for it’s basis.
..

I did not say it was just a matter of making me feel good,

..
Well, that was the question I asked and that was the answer you gave.
Forgive me for taking your reply as a serious answer.

Arky
April 3, 2024 11:38 am

I did not say it was just a matter of making me feel good

I never said “just” in fact I repeated back to you both the points you made. The “feels” one AND the one where you personally know what’s good for everyone else just because.

Arky
April 3, 2024 11:45 am

In general John, the audience finds these discussions tedious.
if you don’t have an actual argument to present and are unable to reply concisely to simple questions I’ll leave it there rather than make the same point again only to have you evade it with great deal of irrelevant verbosity.
Otherwise I’m happy to continue the discussion in these nested comments under here and save everyone else the pain.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 3, 2024 11:46 am

In light of the religion discussion yesterday here’s a short contribution from Richard Fernandez:

Belmont Club: The Ghost Problem (30 Mar)

  1. The former chair of the now-disbanded Jan. 6 committee introduced a bill Friday that would strip Secret Service protection of…

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