Open Thread – Tues 11 June 2024


Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, Tintoretto, 1545

Subscribe
Notify of
guest

1.5K Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2024 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2024 4:08 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
June 14, 2024 4:14 am

I don’t understand the Setka move.
He could have done this all privately & had the outcome he wanted.
But by going public it increases the likelihood of it not happening.
Does he think Albo & the AFL want to be cucked into doing something?
Or is it all about the stoush?
So un-productive.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 14, 2024 4:34 am

Setka is giving people more reasons to not vote Labor next time as they can see how close his thug Union is with Labor.
This does not benefit his members as new Liberal Governments likely to crack down on CFMMEU behaviour.
The fact he has aired his threats so forcefully and publicly just shows how little regard he has for consequences.
This is the man who had over 30 charges relating to his wife dropped and whose wife later tried to get a hit man.
Just a thug. Unfortunately a thug that VIC POL can’t handle.

KevinM
KevinM
June 14, 2024 4:57 am

Completely off topic but it’s the OF.
Justifies Arky’s fears, and also mine actually.
””””””””””””””””””””
Dull Men’s Club®

Automation makes things easier, until enough time has passed that when it is not available for any reason, you can no longer do the thing it made easier at all, because you don’t know how.
I think this is why everyone should still learn how to wash dishes and laundry by hand, do basic maths without a calculator, cook food with a wood fire, and at least some of our population needs to learn ancient methods of things like how to make rope, and fabric, blacksmithing, and other such artisanal skills.

This problem isn’t restricted to things humans invented machines to do. People being unable to drive a manual gear shift car is often an ongoing joke, but what isn’t is the ability to stop a car safely and quickly without ABS brakes, that is an oft overlooked and unlearned skill today.

These things can even come up quite advanced, such as playing on online game without using additional mods, apps, and extras that make it “more playable” (aka easier).
What things in your job, hobbies, or home life that has become so automated that if the power went out, or a machine broke down, or something else went wrong to stop the automation you rely on from working, that you wouldn’t be able to do your job/hobby/housework at all for having no idea how it was done before it was automated?

For me, I learned this evening that it’s computer updates. I’ve been online and able to connect to the internet for so long that I can’t remember a damn thing about upgrading or updating a computer in any way other than click on [Update now] or [Remind me later].

My son was given a computer by a friend, we got it all cleaned up and reset, and now we’re in a catch 22: I can’t update the system without connection to the internet, and I can’t connect to the internet without updating the system, and I’m at a complete loss for how we did these things in the days before because it’s been so long.

A family friend can help me with how to do it using my computer tomorrow, so it won’t be a problem for long, but yeah, modern technology works great for making our life easier, until it no longer works and things suddenly become impossible.

And to think, this is exactly how many past technologies of ancient civilizations were lost.

———————————-
agree or not, it should make you think

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 14, 2024 5:15 am

Public Service Announcement.
This weekend is the Affordable Art Fair, held at Randwick Racecourse.
58 galleries, 100’s of artists will have works on display.
This is where one finds:
1) good new artists;
2) reasonably priced works;
3) travel ideas (I’ve planned trips to regional NSW to see galleries that have had stuff at this fair).

Most cities have these things now.
The Melbourne one is the last weekend of August.

And as this is a commercial setting, it’s stuff people want to see & buy, not the overt political bullshit that you see in taxpayer funded galleries these days.

JC
JC
June 14, 2024 6:36 am

LOL. He’s such an incorrigible motor mouth.

FROM TRUMP to House Republicans — close to exact quote. ‘Nancy Pelosi’s daughter is a whacko, her daughter told me if things were different Nancy and I would be perfect together, there’s an age difference though.’ I dont know what this means, really. But this is what he told a group of House Rs

Sending Pelosi’s daughter apeshit.

Christine Pelosi

@sfpelosi

·

Speaking for all 4 Pelosi daughters — this is a LIE. His deceitful, deranged obsession with our mother is yet another reason Donald Trump is unwell, unhinged and unfit to step foot anywhere near her — or the White House.

Last edited 10 days ago by JC
Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2024 6:57 am

Well done to Francis Galbally and to The Oz for publishing the truth They are now saying openly what I’ve said for a long time here, that the Australian Greens are our very own Nazi Party…..

These duplicitous modern Greens are wolves in sheep’s clothing
Australians need to be very careful: the Greens are not what their name implies.

Many of us might shrug our shoulders and think little about it, but names and slogans are important. They greatly influence us. Often subliminally.

And particularly when they relate to a political organisation.

As Shakespeare’s Juliet remarked: “What’s in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.”

Political parties are, however, not sweet. In Germany in the 1920s a relatively young Adolf Hitler had political ambitions. A smart politician and astute reader of the German sentiment, he was an impressive speaker who said he had solutions to the massive problems (mostly economic) facing ordinary people in the wake of the punishing Treaty of Versailles that disarmed Germany and forced painful financial reparations on it following the First World War.

He joined and quickly took over a party whose name was the antithesis to his personal beliefs: the National Socialist Workers’ Party of Germany. We know it as the Nazi party.

The term “socialist” in the party’s name was intended and did appeal to working-class and economically disadvantaged voters. Hitler used socialist rhetoric and promised to address the economic struggles of the people, leading some to see the party as a form of radical left-wing movement. Indeed, many saw it as possibly communist. It was nothing of the sort – a mere platform to allow Hitler to take control of the government and implement his personal agenda. A wolf in sheep’s clothing.

The Nazi Party was not socialist in terms of ideology or policies. The party advocated for extreme nationalism, anti-Semitism and a totalitarian state, all fundamentally at odds with the then traditional socialist beliefs of equality and workers’ rights. Ultimately, the Nazi Party’s use of the term “socialist” was a clever but deceptive ploy to attract support for the nascent fascist Nazi party. A pretend socialist workers’ party. And it worked. People believed in it and its values, as they saw them, turning a blind eye to the gradual de-democratisation and eventual dictatorship in Germany and the hatred towards, and attempted elimination of, all Jews.

Australia’s Greens look increasingly like the National Socialist Workers’ Party. The party has a name that attracts young, mobile and relatively wealthy urban Australians. These people want to fix the world and believe the only way to do so is through such things as environmental change and carbon reduction. There are good intentions, but the Greens party of Bob Brown is not the Greens party of Adam Bandt.

In my opinion there appears to be alarming similarities between Adam Bandt’s Greens and Hitler’s National Socialist Workers’ Party of the 1920s and 1930s. Both leaders are ideologues and demagogues. They are anti-Semitic in their rhetoric and this encourages in many a belief that the Jews are the cause of things wrong with society.

Bandt encourages the chant “from the river to the sea”. What does that mean other than the annihilation of the Jewish state and its people? But not just that, he seems through his rhetoric to want more. He encourages and attends pro-Palestinian demonstrations that are anti-Semitic and aimed at intimidating Australia’s Jews as they at least try to go about their ordinary lives whether as university students, workers or business people. Bandt supports gatherings that seem to me frighteningly similar to those pre-Nuremberg rallies in Munich in the 1920s. His rhetoric and actions appear to encourage the anti-Semitic demonstrations at parliament and on our city streets. This was Hitler at his most effective, and Bandt seems to have borrowed his playbook.

Bandt’s rant a few days ago has all the hallmarks of a Nazi rally. He accuses the major parties of “slandering this movement”. He calls on the Israeli ambassador to be expelled. He calls on sanctions against Israeli. He says “enough of the hand-wringing tweets, enough of the words that always come with conditions attached … they are being ignored by an extreme war cabinet that is hellbent on continuing this invasion”. And, like 1930s Munich, police had to move in to quell the violent protesters and use pepper spray (in Munich it was batons).

Bandt doesn’t mention how the Gaza war started, and appears to have no empathy for the abducted Israelis and the rape and killing of women and children. Bandt is a frightening demagogue; he distorts the truth, which suits a political agenda.

Bandt’s support of activists locking politicians out of their electoral offices bears the hallmarks of a potential dictator slowly cutting away at democracy.
Like Hitler, Bandt uses propaganda, discontent and fearmongering to gain support. He finds support among anti-Semites and uses climate action and anti-capitalist rhetoric to feed his supporters. Bandt would massively raise taxes and drive business from Australia. His rhetoric on tax and anti-business plays to his supporter base, much as Hitler did. And, like Hitler, he gets support from some individuals and businesses.

I do not criticise those who truly support the original Greens’ stand: protection of the environment and action to mitigate climate change.
But the Greens are now a party controlled by a rabblerouser who could destroy our way of life.

Francis Galbally is a former lawyer and now a Melbourne based businessman and investment banker.

I’ll say it again, the Australian Greens are our very own Nazi Party. Those affluent Australians who vote for them are themselves NAZIS and are NO DIFFERENT to those Germans who voted for Adolf Hitler in 1933.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2024 6:59 am

This weekend is the Affordable Art Fair, held at Randwick Racecourse.
58 galleries, 100’s of artists will have works on display.

Thanks Bern, I might pop along.

Rosie
Rosie
June 14, 2024 7:25 am

The undercovers spent several days in Nuseirat scoping out the location of the four hostages.
That’s exceptional bravery.
https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/the-inside-story-of-israels-dramatic-gaza-hostage-rescue-e2t1d8qu

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2024 7:26 am

Bandt is a Marxist “entryist” who has subverted The Greens for his own revolutionary purposes. This is a classic Trot tactic with a history of use in Australia. The anti-Israel rhetoric is a continuation of post WWII Cold War anti-colonialism in the service of international socialism.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2024 7:33 am

Now go after those that actually foment violence. Daily Telegraph:

Two months on from the Wakeley church riots police are continuing to make arrests and have issued a warning to a final group of seven men: hand yourselves in, before we knock on your doors.

Strike Force Dribs was set up a day after the wild riots on April 14, with the extensive investigation so far leading to 29 arrests, including six more on Thursday.

Get to those who were quite silly October 9 please Commish.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2024 7:42 am

Whilst we can all nitpick Galbally’s piece, his central thesis in which he calls out and exposes, in a major publication, the fusion between the Australian Greens and the German Nazi Party in regards to the fomentation and open advocacy and espousal of Jew hatred is 100% correct.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 14, 2024 7:43 am

The Torys are probably wishing they’d supported
the Preferential Voting referendum.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2024 7:48 am

The Torys are probably wishing they’d supported
the Preferential Voting referendum.

Good, I want to see the Tories annihilated

Having said that, Der Sturmer and his Jew hating Islamist comrades will destroy Britain but the Tories, in power since 2010, dug, paved and sealed the way for them to do so.

Rosie
Rosie
June 14, 2024 7:51 am

Bandt is now fully exposed.
It’s interesting that the anti Semitic protests in New York were too much even for AOC.
I think many non Jewish Australians and Americans are Zionists.
More than Bandt images I hope.
No surprise that Bandt is a German name.

Rosie
Rosie
June 14, 2024 7:56 am

I was reading a twitter thread last night about the numbers of nazis that fled to the ME after the second world war, some of whom got involved in the wars against Israel.
That might help explain the number of blue eyed blondes in Gaza ( of whom they are extraordinarily proud)
And I’ve seen quite a few red heads too.
Not to mention how easily Israeli undercovers infiltrate Gaza.
Yet Bandt and co pretend it’s white people oppressing brown people.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 14, 2024 8:10 am

Who does the most misinformation and disinformation?
There’s a fine example of a repeat offender scattered across the msnbc start screen, saying stuff like this:
Deeply unwell Trump is being given a total pass for nonstop mental lapses.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2024 8:10 am

feelthebern
 June 14, 2024 4:14 am

I don’t understand the Setka move.

He could have done this all privately & had the outcome he wanted.

But by going public it increases the likelihood of it not happening.

Three possibilities:-
1. Setka likes the sound of his own voice;
2. He has announced he is retiring (likely shoved) and this is his last ditch effort at asserting his relevance;
3. He doesn’t expect McBurney to be sacked. He is trying to ensure no-one wants to take an ABCC job under Dutton.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 14, 2024 8:18 am

Leak (see previous page) has Albo down to a T – wait, make that a Y.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2024 8:19 am

Rosie
 June 14, 2024 7:51 am

Well said, Rosie.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 14, 2024 8:25 am

and a totalitarian state, all fundamentally at odds with the then traditional socialist beliefs of equality and workers’ rights.
Yep not nitpicking Galbally, but he’s fundamentally wrong. Proof of the pudding is that all of Nazi Germany’s international alliances were left-wing socialist, and all of its internal and international enemies were right-wing individualists.
And if you want collective “equality and workers’ rights”, how else do you get there but a totalitarian state?

132andBush
132andBush
June 14, 2024 8:26 am

No surprise that Bandt is a German name.

Would make an excellent post on his or the greens X feed.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2024 8:26 am

A couple of “interesting” figures:

The 2021 Intergenerational Report stated that 60% of Australia’s migrant intake would make no net contribution to government revenue over the course of their lives here. (The 2023 IGR makes no mention of this as far as I can see.) The 40% would contribute on average $319 000 in taxes over the course of their lives here.

In its first 18 months the Albanese government presided over a population increase of 950 000, largely through migration.

A couple of thoughts:

If the 2021 figure remains correct (it’s probably increased), that’s 570 000 people who will be net takers from rather than contributors to the public purse and presumably inclined, out of self-interest, to resist any attempt to reform the tax-welfare churn, together with the millions of a similar economic profile who preceded them in the years of the population ponzi.

That’s not to reduce people to economic units, for there are other valuable contributions to community life that people can make. But a productive economy based on broad participation underwrites the basic standard of living for all, without which key services such as health and education and the quality of life they foster begins to decline. That is an inescapable fact of life.

So, at what point does the burden on the economic “lifters” become intolerable?

The UK & Canada, which have similarly experienced ultra-high immigration in recent decades, are both facing the same question.

Last edited 10 days ago by Roger
Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 14, 2024 8:31 am

Hitler transformed Germany from an economic cot case to a dynamic industrial powerhouse by giving them all something to do. The autobahn network was sold as “nation building”. It’s ironic that a lot of the equipment the army took from battle to battle in WW2 was horse-drawn.
Companies like BMW et al were not supposed to go back into the aircraft production business, but did anyway. Politicians in France and Britain were for the most part inclined to look the other way and to hold Churchill in disdain for his tendency to warn that Germany was rebuilding its offensive capacity.
Tanks, which in WW1 were lumbering monstrosities were reborn for WW2 as lighter, more mobile blitzkrieg forces. Heinz Guderian was one of the generals who set the pattern for this; and in the film Patton there’s a line where Patton says of Guderian “I read your book you clever bastard”.
What am I saying?
Hitler was an evil bastard who fostered the industrial talents and military traditions of Germany for the purpose of enlarging his empire.
Bandt is an evil bastard who would do to Australia what the Demonrats are doing to America. Knobbling it.

Crossie
Crossie
June 14, 2024 8:32 am

Boambee John

 June 14, 2024 7:25 am

 Reply to  Cassie of Sydney

Galbally is wrong about the socialist aims of the Nazi Party. Hitler wanted control of the means of production, but achieved that by controlling the owners and managers, not by grabbing the factories.

How is that different from all our corporations doing the Labor and Greens bidding? There was the voice debacle and now the ever-expanding renewables hysteria promoted at every turn by almost every business in Australia. We are already there.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2024 8:43 am

The Nazis were national socialists rather than international socialists, and national for them was inextricably intertwined with German racialism, the bête noire of which was the Jew, who was also associated with Communism (i.e. international socialism) and the “stab in the back” conspiracy theory of why Germany lost the Great War.

In order for Germany to achieve its rightful place in history, the Nazis regarded it as essential for the working class take their rightful place at the head of the nation (under the almost mystical guidance of the Führer of course), which had hitherto been denied them by the capitalist class and the politically liberal bourgeoisie associated with the despised Weimar republic. While Hitler was no great economic theorist, anyone who takes the time to read the Nazi party source material can discover this for themselves.

duncanm
duncanm
June 14, 2024 8:49 am

re: Setka

I’m no lawyer type, but I thought there were fairly clear laws against union industrial action unless they’re based on specific work-related claims (pay, safety, etc)

Its like an Uno reverse blacklist action.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2024 8:56 am

Nice payday.

Tesla Shareholders Approve CEO Elon Musk’s $56B Pay (13 Jun)

Tesla shareholders approved CEO Elon Musk’s $56 billion pay package, the electric vehicle-maker said on Thursday, a big thumbs-up to his leadership and an enticement for keeping his focus on his biggest source of wealth.

Shareholders also approved a proposal to move the company’s legal home to Texas from Delaware, Tesla said at its annual shareholder meeting in Austin, Texas.

Well done lefty Delaware, you’ve managed to chase away yet another incredibly productive businessman.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 14, 2024 9:08 am

This one’s for military Cats

John O’Halloran’s book “The Platoon Commander” narrates the incident of an infantry that returned, tired and hungry, from a night mission, to discover that the mess was closed for breakfast, and there would be no meals until lunchtime.

Later in the day, one of the diggers went to the Q store to get some new greens, because the old one’s had been slashed to pieces by thorns. He was told he would have to bring the old one’s back before he was issued with new ones. When he explained he had already thrown away the old one’s, his request was refused.

Both the mess sergeant and the Quartermaster sergeant were later told “You blokes get your gear and your rifles together, because tomorrow morning, you are under orders to join us, on patrol.”

“You should have seen the stunned looks on their faces.”

There was no contact with the enemy, but they did experience life as a rifleman. “As expected, we never had any more problems getting a hot meal in the mess outside normal hours, or getting stores from our new mate, the Quartermaster sergeant.” (Page 223.)

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 14, 2024 9:19 am

Thanks Rosie, the inside story of the hostage rescue. The IDF are awesome. In many respects this is even better than the Entebbe raid as it was so far away and not really expecting a raid. That is not taking anything away from that extraordinary tale. The 30 extra hamarse scum came as bit of a surprise. Our top brass couldn’t even conceive such a plan little carry it out.

JC
JC
June 14, 2024 9:19 am

Bungonia Bee

 June 14, 2024 8:31 am

Hitler transformed Germany from an economic cot case to a dynamic industrial powerhouse by giving them all something to do.

German living standards were lower in 1939 compared to 1933.

it was all military Keynesianism writ large.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2024 9:25 am

No wonder employees love work from home…

Wells Fargo Fires Employees Over “Mouse Jigglers” (14 Jun)

In the era of hybrid work, with employees splitting their time between two days in the office and three days working remotely, employers have ramped up using productivity monitoring software. However, employees have outsmarted some of these surveillance programs with gadgets like mouse movers, otherwise known as ‘mouse jigglers.’

The popularity of mouse jigglers has exploded on TikTok in the last several years. Firms have been cracking down on these devices following a surge in fake work activity, which has weighed on productivity. …

On Amazon, some of the top-ranking mouse jigglers sold have thousands of reviews and range in price between $6 and $25. Google Trends shows a massive search spike for these devices in 2022.

I suspect those employees who don’t come into the office five days a week will be the ones replaced by AIs.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 14, 2024 9:29 am

BB, didn’t Guderian write a book called Achtung Panzer?

In the film Patton is shown reading Rommel’s The Tank in Attack, but IIRR the German commander was still writing it, when in late 1944 he took his own life after being implicated in the July assassination attempt?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 14, 2024 9:33 am

Quite true Roger, unless a migrant family unit are net taxpayers they are of no value to the country. Even then I very much doubt the net cost of providing expanded services for them over their lifetime is quantified. There will be figures but they will be as reliable as a BOM weather forcast or a politicians promise. Which just reminded me of my mate who was the sitting Customs Ministers speach writer. Before the election wrote why they were going to do something, then after the successful election wrote why they weren’t going to do the same thing. He left and became a Customs consultant.

John Brumble
John Brumble
June 14, 2024 9:36 am

Very much sick of the “but I am so much more productive from home” brigade.

There are some people who can be more productive, but most of these people already worked remotely.

Because while they may feel like they get more done, even if they get their own work done (and so often they simply do not), the reason is that they are completely unavailable for their colleagues.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 14, 2024 9:41 am

According to most of the ads put out by mining companies these days, they are largely populated by women.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2024 9:46 am

Cassie of Sydney
 June 14, 2024 6:57 am

Well done to Francis Galbally and to The Oz for publishing the truth They are now saying openly what I’ve said for a long time here, that the Australian Greens are our very own Nazi Party…..

I think the tide is turning. I can’t imagine that piece being published – even in the “far right” Oz – six months ago.
And, picking up on JC’s link earlier, the Jewish vote has often leaned soft left in the past but it appears they are abandoning the Dimocrats in the US. I suspect Luigi’s polling is telling him the same thing. That his wink-nudge support for the Pally-Whackos is having electoral consequences elsewhere.
Hence the attack on Bandit last week.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2024 9:48 am

There will be figures but they will be as reliable as a BOM weather forcast or a politicians promise.

That the 60% figure got into the report at all tells me either it’s true or the truth is actually worse. It parallels a recent UK study that showed there is now no economic boost from migration for the UK. In fact, it’s driving taxes higher as services have to be expanded and paid for.

Last edited 9 days ago by Roger
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 14, 2024 9:58 am

While ‘Bandt is Literally Hitler’ probably leads down unhelpful rabbit holes, the model is apt and useful – and events in the current Australian political scene are starting to have a distinct Weimar feel.

Neither the ALP or Coalition have popular majorities, both are internally fractured and seem ‘weak’ and unappealing, and both are ‘next step’ away from depending on unlikely alliances – and particularly Labor.

Just as Galbally says, Bandt is openly focussing on pulling in base support to the Greens by creating and demonising an ‘oppressor’ racial group – 100 years on racial identity is still a powerful motivator. And also like Hitler he’s focussed on ‘external threats’ that only He can save Australians from; climate change, the US Hegemony, and capitalism.

What Bandt and the Greens need next to fill out the Hitler Arc is to get hands on the levers of power – and then a suitable emergency to fig leaf suspension of the Constitution and emergency powers.

Economic and social collapse caused by no electricity might help the cause – although we’re more likely to get Pol Pot’s Year Zero than a mighty Fascist industrial state.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2024 10:03 am

What Bandt and the Greens need next to fill out the Hitler Arc is to get hands on the levers of power – and then a suitable emergency to fig leaf suspension of the Constitution and emergency powers.

A deadly viral pandemic would come in handy.

Muddy
Muddy
June 14, 2024 10:04 am

Recommended.
Anyone with a passionate interest in the ordeal facing Israel at present, will find Rosie’s link at 7:25 a.m. to a brief story of Operation Arnon compulsory reading.

In a world where deceit and cowardice at the highest levels has become the norm (and a source of perverse pride even), the Israeli participants in Operation Arnon redefine the meaning of courage.

While part of me hopes (selfishly) that the detailed story of the undercover team is published in the future, part of me would not be surprised if it isn’t, because true heroes (high risk – low reward) embrace humility.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 14, 2024 10:05 am

I think the tide is turning. I can’t imagine that piece being published – even in the “far right” Oz – six months ago.

Good observation.
?
My spidey senses are tingling somewhat with the elevation in public rhetoric at the same time as the increase in dependency on the State, and the dumbing down of public competence (today’s Exhibit A: David Christwhatafooli).

We need to keep a weather eye on where the tide is turning to…

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 14, 2024 10:25 am

Police are today shown rounding up Christians who got a bit antsie after their Bishop was stabbed by a muesli youth.
Has anyone heard of what punishment an imam might get for saying after October 7th “I’m smiling, I’m elated …”?

Zippster
Zippster
June 14, 2024 10:32 am

Elon musk got the vote for his $56b compensation package, current vote is 73% in favour.

what f#cking right does the government have to say what people are allowed to earn.

communists can eat, sh!t and d!e

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
June 14, 2024 10:32 am

Military minded Cats may be interested to hear I was at the War Memorial the other day in Canberra.

A volunteer guide told me that an aboriginal man couldn’t enlist in the AIF in 1914 because of his ‘race’.

I told him that I thought that was unlikely. I noted that aboriginal men (and women) were eligible to vote in 1901 if they had been able to vote in State elections previously. And so I thought as they could vote in Federal Elections, they were likely to be able to enlist.

I was directed to this resource:

Quandamooka/Noonuccal man Richard Martin enlisted in the Australian Imperial Force (AIF) on 17 December 1914. As Aboriginal people were prevented from enlisting, he declared that he was a New Zealander with five years’ service in the Light Horse. In fact, he had been born on Stradbroke Island in Queensland and had no known previous service.

https://www.awm.gov.au/learn/schools/resources/anzac-diversity/aboriginal-anzacs/richard-martin?fbclid=IwAR1JI3BlAlqGHLDuP8OtnZcHiR9y9T1jUvehswSgQmPzA5BkWWnxh3uTlek

Does anyone have any thoughts?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 14, 2024 10:32 am

You can imagine our top brass planning such a mission.
Mission priority would be checking the raiding team is reflective of the make up of the population with suitable ratios of women, trans, Chinese, First Nations etc. This is vital for the photos before and after the mission.

“Our top brass couldn’t even conceive such a plan little carry it out”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 14, 2024 10:35 am

Up here in Dunny Queensland, the desperate Miles Government has been throwing electoral sugar out at a scale and rate I’ve never before seen. This is broadly accepted as an eye wateringly cynical attempt for a staggeringly incompetent government to cling to power.

Last night the David Chrisafulli, the Queensland Opposition Leader, gave the budget reply.

Firstly, in a political masterstroke, the LNP accepted the (technically unfunded, $11 billion) ALP Budget Handout in its entirety.

Then, Christwhatafulli put a Gold Star and Elephant Stamp on his own incompetence credentials:

He also confirmed an LNP government would not proceed with a proposed pumped hydro project in north Queensland, calling the Pioneer-Burdekin scheme “unachievable” and a “thought bubble”.

So far, so good. Queensland probably doesn’t need to spend $20-$40+ billion on something equivalent to a $6 billion HELE coal-fixed power station.

But then:

Mr Crisafulli said the LNP would instead look at opportunities for smaller pumped hydro projects.

“There’s a difference between responsibly supporting budget supply — and honouring underway, fully-funded programs — and backing exorbitant thought bubbles,” he said.

“For these reasons, I announce today an LNP government will not proceed with the Pioneer-Burdekin Pumped Hydro Project scheme.

“In its place we will embark on a long-term plan which will provide alternative storage options to this unachievable project.

“The LNP will investigate opportunities for smaller, more manageable pumped hydro projects.”

Alternative options to an unachievable project. A strategy to live by.

Vote For Us. Our thought bubble is better than their thought bubble.

Barry
Barry
June 14, 2024 10:35 am

Hitler Dan Andrews transformed Victoria Germany from an economic cot case to a dynamic industrial powerhouse by giving them all something to do. The autobahn rail tunnel network was sold as “nation building”.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 14, 2024 10:45 am

…it was all military Keynesianism writ large.
More Gangsterism than Keynesianism.
Hence absurdities such as Junkers being denied Daimler Benz engines because some NSDAP luminary lost a BiL in an aircrash.
Or the Wehrmacht’s needs being secondary to the NSDAP’s military wing, the Waffen SS.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 14, 2024 10:54 am

Crossie
 June 14, 2024 8:32 am

Boambee John
 June 14, 2024 7:25 am
 Reply to  Cassie of Sydney
Galbally is wrong about the socialist aims of the Nazi Party. Hitler wanted control of the means of production, but achieved that by controlling the owners and managers, not by grabbing the factories.

How is that different from all our corporations doing the Labor and Greens bidding? There was the voice debacle and now the ever-expanding renewables hysteria promoted at every turn by almost every business in Australia. We are already there.

No different at all. Under the UniParty, we are well on the way to fascism.

johanna
johanna
June 14, 2024 10:55 am

The UN, now beyond doubt evil, has added Israel to a ‘list’ of organisations that harm children:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-14/israel-military-and-hamas-added-to-un-list/103965184

For the first time, the United Nations has added Israel’s armed and security forces, Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) militant group to its list of offenders for violating children’s rights.
The UN’s annual Children and Armed Conflict Report is prepared by Secretary-General António Guterres and documents the spread of armed conflicts involving children across the world.
In its 2023 findings, released on Thursday local time, it concluded violations against children in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, which includes Gaza, had increased by 155 per cent.
The list is meant to shame parties so that they promise to enact measures outlined by the UN to protect children.
The findings singled out Israel’s armed and security forces, Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group.
“[I am] appalled by the dramatic increase and unprecedented scale and intensity of grave violations against children in the Gaza Strip, Israel and the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, despite my repeated calls for parties to implement measures to prevent grave violations,” Mr Guterres said.

I notice that they don’t include full-term abortionists, or FGM proponents, or those who support mutilating children because a kid (supported by parent/s) claims to have been ‘born in the wrong body.’

Trump pulled the financial plug on UNESCO. Next time around he should ditch the whole filthy outfit.

Without US$, they will go deservedly broke.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2024 10:57 am

I see Geert Wilders is in the news again.

I’m not seeing anything much different from what we already knew, although this is nice:

Israeli-born lawmaker with alleged Mossad ties tapped as Dutch deputy prime minister (13 Jun)

Gideon (Gidi) Markuszower appointed immigration minister for Geert Wilders’ Freedom Party (PVV); born in Tel Aviv, he is fluent in Hebrew and is known as an ardent Zionist and a friend of Israel

Should explode the heads of lot and lots and lots of deserving antisemitic lefties.

Rosie
Rosie
June 14, 2024 10:57 am

I don’t know Dover, young working people might be ticked off with high taxes, high fuel and other energy costs, reject trans ideology, muslim and aboriginal exceptionalism and believe man made climate change is a crock.
They also might be getting their information from you tubers who expose the lies, all of them.
My youngest, late 20s, without any influence from me is in that camp.
The ones in their thirties all voted ‘no’.
At least one of my lefty brothers is a Zionist and he/him and his teacher wife have shifted right on a couple of other issues too.

Last edited 9 days ago by Rosie
lotocoti
lotocoti
June 14, 2024 10:58 am

Spiked goes to town on the odds on favourite, Deir Sturmer.

Zatara
Zatara
June 14, 2024 11:17 am

Poll: 67% Palestinians Agree With October 7 Massacre, 71% Want Hamas to Rule Gaza
97% of the Palestinians think Israel has committed war crimes. Only 9% think Hamas did the same.

Those who watched the video of the October 7 massacre tend to agree that Hamas committed war crimes.

PSR noted that the majority of those polled watch Al Jazeera. 83% of Palestinians in the West Bank prefer the channel.

65% do not want two state solution.

Last edited 9 days ago by Zatara
Diogenes
Diogenes
June 14, 2024 11:20 am

it was all military Keynesianism writ large

eric hinton
eric hinton
June 14, 2024 11:24 am

Up here in Dunny Queensland, the desperate Miles Government has been throwing electoral sugar out at a scale and rate I’ve never before seen.

I always said this would happen if John Cain ever became premier of Victoria.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 14, 2024 11:26 am

Aside from Boomers, the ‘Greens are Nazis’ line will have zero influence…

Pretty true.

The term ‘Nazi’, if it means anything to 50.3% of the population, is simply a ritual insult – and arguably second tier behind the fashionably serious and loaded epithets: racist, fascist, racist, and so on. In the current political lexicon, more a ‘You’re a Farty Poo Bum’.

And certainly the historical lessons of the rise of Hitler are lost in the mists of time.

My kids are well educated, but for them the formal lessons were that Hitler was a bad man who fronted for the Nazis and caused trouble and fought a war that their grandies were somehow involved in a long time ago, before the internet.

Diogenes
Diogenes
June 14, 2024 11:27 am

Soerry about that, the post comment is just above the keyboard..
Let’s try again…

it was all military Keynesianism writ large

I would have called it communism. TIK has done many videos on the NS economy.

By 1939 the average Germany had a better lifestyle, however due to shortages caused by Goerings 4 year plans, often had money, but little to spend it on.

Last edited 9 days ago by Diogenes
Beertruk
Beertruk
June 14, 2024 11:29 am

Thursday arvo in the Paywallion:

Human Rights Act would give Left cover for a new attack on freedoms

The Mocker
18:16 Thu 13 Jun 2024

According to Labor MP and chair of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights, Josh Burns, the case for a federal Human Rights Act is obvious. And judging by his effusive urgency, it is not just obvious but really, really obvious.

“It’s time we start the conversation about what needs to be done so we can get there,” he declared two weeks ago, noting the committee had received 335 submissions. “Submissions were overwhelmingly in favour of the introduction of a Human Rights Act, with only four per cent opposed.”

The people have spoken! Well, some people anyway. We are talking the Australian Lawyers for Human Rights, the Australian Human Rights Institute, the Human Rights Law Alliance, the Human Rights Law Centre, Human Rights Watch, the Australian Human Rights Commission, the Queensland Human Rights Commission, the ACT Human Rights Commission, the Victorian Equal Opportunity & Human Rights Commission, the Australian Council of Human Rights Authorities, the Bonavero Institute of Human Rights, the Castan Centre for Human Rights Law, and Western Australia for a Human Rights Act.

Amazingly, all these human rights bodies insist we need a Human Rights Act. And before you interject with “Of course they would bloody well say that,” just consider that many other supporting submissions came from organisations without the phrase ‘human rights’ in their title.

Take for example Mums 4 Refugees, Grandmothers for Refugees, the Blue Mountains Refugee Support Group, the Refugee Advocacy Network, the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre, the Refugee Advice & Casework Service, the Refugee Action Collective (Victoria), Climate Change Balmain, Environmental Justice Australia, Reconciliation Australia, the Indigenous Law and Justice Hub, the Charter of Rights campaign coalition, Amnesty International, the United Nations, the Australian Feminists for Women’s Rights, and the Coalition of Activist Lesbians.

There you have it: mainstream Australia in one paragraph. There is as much diversity of opinion in those submissions as there is in a Q+A panel.

As for those opposed, Burns breezily dismissed their concerns. “I reject the notion that a Human Rights Act risks politicising the judiciary and opens the floodgates to litigation,” he said.

Under the committee’s proposed model, the judiciary would have to interpret all Commonwealth legislation “in a manner that is consistent with human rights”.

But how would courts properly undertake this task, given human rights are a nebulous concept? Easy, the legislation would “include a clause directing that it is to be interpreted by reference to international law”.

To give you an idea of the potential ramifications, just consider only this year the United Nations Human Rights Committee determined the Federal Court had breached the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights in dismissing a native title claim involving rival Indigenous parties in the WA Pilbara region.

In addition to finding the claim be reconsidered, it found that compensation should be paid to the applicants.

The determination is non-binding and is just another case of the bureaucratic haranguing so typical of UN panjandrums. But it would be a far different situation if Labor accepts the recommendations of this report. It would require the government to review, on the presumption of withdrawing, “all existing reservations and interpretative declarations under UN human rights treaties”. It is a backdoor way of enshrining the UN interpretation of these treaties in domestic law.

As legal experts Professors Nicholas Aroney, Professor Richard Ekins and Dr Benjamin Saunders noted in their dissenting submission, a Human Rights Act would require courts to decide cases using “open-ended moral and political reasoning” in balancing rights. With justification, they point out this could transform judges into lawmakers.

And Burns and his colleagues desire to transform not just the courts but all our public institutions. It is not just a case of wanting officials to be awash with human rights. Rather, they want public servants to marinate in them, the report declaring that “there needs to be a seismic cultural shift within the public service to mainstream human rights”.

This would be accomplished by legislating changes to the Australian Public Service (APS) Values and Code of Conduct, requiring employees to make decisions and give advice in accordance with human rights. Every government agency would have to set up “specialised human rights units” and provide annual compliance reports.

How many of them would have to do this? Only 1334. It is long overdue, I say. A government agency without a human rights unit is like an armpit without fleas.

The ideologues of the Australian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) must be salivating at the thought of the government accepting these recommendations. Its numbers and powers would be expanded to allow it to audit departments and agencies. It would also give the AHRC powers to commence proceedings to enforce compliance where it identifies “systemic” human rights concerns.

Forget the notion its employees will act impartially. As reported in February, 24 of the 122 staff employed at the agency wrote to AHRC President Rosalind Croucher expressing “frustration at the commission’s failure to fulfil its mandate as an accredited national human rights institution in regard to Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity perpetrated against Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank”.

Excuse my ignorance, but are not AHRC employees also required by legislation to act apolitically in the course of their duties? Why must we continue to fund these entitled brats?

Responding to the committee’s findings, a spokesman for Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus said last month the government had “no plans to introduce a federal Human Rights Act”. That was hardly reassuring, given this report arose through Dreyfus’s referral. Another case of “Our position hasn’t changed,” perhaps?

A Human Rights Act is political expediency. The far-left ideology it fosters complements Labor’s agenda and would gradually permeate all aspects of public administration. It would allow the Albanese government, which is already notorious for abrogating responsibility, to deflect blame for these creeping changes by insisting it is simply abiding by the law.

There is another ulterior motive for the Albanese government to pursue these measures. It is still smarting following its decisive loss in the Indigenous voice to parliament referendum. It wanted a constitutionally entrenched activist body that would undermine and frustrate a future Coalition government. But a Human Rights Act would be an ideal Plan B. Better still it does not need the mandate of voters.

As for Burns and his fellow committee members, I have one suggestion. Instead of canvassing interested parties, try going to the outer suburbs and asking the residents to nominate their top five concerns. How many of them do you think will burst into tears and say the absence of a federal Human Rights Act is tearing them apart?

Enough of this rubbish that the case for this legislation is overwhelming. It is the social justice equivalent of ‘The science is settled’.

THE MOCKER 

JC
JC
June 14, 2024 11:33 am

What are the numbers for Germany, France, UK, and USA?

I referenced Germany. Living standards are about quality of life and not just GDP per capita.

We compare trends in mortality, nutritional status and food supply to other living standard indicators for the early years of the Nazi period. We find that Germany experienced a substantial increase in mortality rates in most age groups in the mid-1930s, even relative to those of 1932, the worst year of the Great Depression. Expenditures on rearmament grew at the expense of public health measures. Food imports were curtailed, and prices of many agricultural products were controlled. There is ample evidence that this set of economic policies had an adverse effect on the health of the population

Military Keynesianism suggests that when a nation allocates a significant portion of its GDP towards rearmament efforts, despite an increase in per capita GDP, the quality of living for its citizens will decline.
More here:

https://www.ifo.de/DocDL/cesifo_wp800.pdf

You recently argued that living standards should be ignored in Russia because GDP per capita was increasing even though , by some reports, 20% of Russian GDP is directly and indirectly supporting the war effort.

Last edited 9 days ago by JC
JC
JC
June 14, 2024 11:46 am

The trend in real wages is still controversial, because price indexes are difficult to interpret. Deterioration in product quality and the loss in utility due to non-availability of some goods pose additional problems of measurement. According to official statistics, real gross wages tended to rise in spite of the official policy that fixed some wages (Tarifloehne), and by 1938, industrial wages recovered to their 1929 level (one of the outstanding boom years under the Weimar regime) (Ibdm. See also Petzina et al., 1978, p. 98 and Siegel, 1982, p. 104, tab. 2.). However, reasonable adjustments to the official figures lead to a more sceptical view of the trends in real income, and it is most likely that before the war German real weekly netwages in industry failed to recover to the level of 1929 (Hachtmann, 1989, p. 158 and p. 159,

tab. 14. Overy, 1994, pp. 263–264).

Last edited 9 days ago by JC
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2024 11:47 am

Let us all have a minute silence in solidarity with Monty.

The gourmet donut space, which saw a massive boom around half a dozen years ago as the extravagantly decorated treats took over Instagram feeds, has seen a raft of closures and consolidation in recent months with brands forced to shift business models to survive.

Gone are long lines outside hole-in-the-wall donut stores — now the real dough is found in big-ticket wholesale tie-ups with supermarkets, servos and even corporations looking to entice workers back into the office. …

Doughnut Time pioneered the Instagrammable donut trend in Australia, growing to 30 stores across Australia and the UK in a few short years before collapsing under a mountain of debt. …

The industry was dealt a massive blow six months ago with the collapse of Melbourne’s Mr Donut, one of the oldest wholesalers in the space.

How will Melbourne survive this disaster? Ok I suspect Monty is restricting his gourmet donut intake as he has to pay off his new investment. He is a landlord! That can’t be good for his next Marxist purity test.

‘Can’t spend $7 on a donut’: Rising cost-of-living takes a bite out of hipster ‘fad’ (News.com.au, 14 Jun)

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 14, 2024 11:56 am

65% do not want two state solution.

For the LOLs, Israel should declare their full support for the creation of a new state, Trans Jordan, encompassing the West Bank.

billie
billie
June 14, 2024 12:03 pm

Bandt is Hitler

ah dear me, this should be a fun few weeks coming up, he’ll be beside himself. (note to self, stock up on popcorn)

Since the Hitler salute is outlawed, we should pick one of Rimmer’s salutes for him, to do en masse whenever Bandt is present.

(Rimmer from Red Dwarf TV series)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMFU_qwnbOo&ab_channel=kantatonTaton

JC
JC
June 14, 2024 12:15 pm

Okay

GDP at constant prices for three countries is a good indicator that living standards began to rise in the 30s because their rearmament was nowhere near as large as Germany. Germany’s was enormous after 1935.

Vicki
Vicki
June 14, 2024 12:20 pm

Coming late into this discussion of living standards v GDP. But just note I am staggered at the contemporary living standards in Russia. I was there during Glasnot & Perestroika when there was almost nothing on the shelves of shops. The market economy sure had improved things. And it ain’t all propaganda. I recently watched an American tourists’s home video of his trip to a Russian mall – pretty identical to any shopping mall here. And this is in a war footing economy. I understand that Russia Had moved way up among the top global nations in GDP.

JC
JC
June 14, 2024 12:39 pm

Which three countries?

I helped you with Germany. You also asked for UK, France and the US.

What are the numbers?


You can look up historical GDP for those countries. Per capita GDP at constant prices. Google search should help you.

Last edited 9 days ago by JC
johanna
johanna
June 14, 2024 12:43 pm

While it may be of interest to historians, I fail to see how trying to link the Greens (which half, BTW, the eco-nuts or the communists?) to a political movement 100 years ago is going to strike a chord with everyday Aussies.

If the intention is to engage voters in 2024, arcane historical arguments are not going to do the job.

Time to focus on the here and now,

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
June 14, 2024 12:47 pm

I wrote a post this morning about the War Memorial which has disappeared (into moderation?).
Could someone tell me how I can find it when (if) it is released from moderation?

Does it appear chronologically when I wrote it (hours ago), or does it appear at the timestamp when it was cleared from moderation?

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
June 14, 2024 12:49 pm

I tried to post about a post that is in moderation, but it also is in moderation?

What gives?

JC
JC
June 14, 2024 12:51 pm

Why would I be looking at UK, France and the US when the discussion centered on Germany? I’m not obviously looking at them. If you need the information find it through a google search yourself or ask your research assistant.

Last edited 9 days ago by JC
johanna
johanna
June 14, 2024 1:00 pm

Vicki
June 14, 2024 12:20 pm

Coming late into this discussion of living standards v GDP. But just note I am staggered at the contemporary living standards in Russia. I was there during Glasnot & Perestroika when there was almost nothing on the shelves of shops. The market economy sure had improved things.

Yes, Vicki, GDP figures are useful, but hardly definitive.

Just look at those TV shows where apparently sentient adults claim that it would be impossible for their children not to each have their own bathroom.

(BTW, I doubt that the lady of the house cleans them. It will be an illegal paid in cash.)

Readers may know that the springboard of US prosperity in the C20th was when they turned off the immigration tap, and integration occurred through work and intermarrtage. Those immigrants, devoid of scab-pickers, became immensely patriotic Americans and participated in an economic boom beyond anyone’s expectations..

Learning from history is anathema to the Left.

JC
JC
June 14, 2024 1:18 pm

It was “improving” because the economy was directed to rearmament. This was explained to you earlier. I also linked to a decent report explaining the “quality” of German GDP that you obviously haven’t even tried to read. Try and do so as it will give you a decent explanation what was going on.

You appear to have a real issue with this because I suspect it questions your earlier thesis on what’s going on in Russia.

Military Keynesianism re-orientates the economy to war effort. At the end of the day consumers aren’t partial to roast hand-grenades for the weekly Sunday roast.

France was a complete mess after ww1 both politically and economically. It lost almost 5% of its population in WW1 because of the Hun.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2024 1:22 pm

LOL…once less Teal stink. From The Oz….

The Australian Electoral Commission has proposed abolishing the Teal-held division of North Sydney in its just-released boundary redistribution for NSW.

The seat, won in 2022 by Teal independent Kylea Tink, has long been rumoured to be one of the divisions under threat of abolishment. Where that leaves Ms Tink, and any potential new electoral home, if any, is unclear.

JC
JC
June 14, 2024 1:22 pm

Well, because you are making a claim about Germany that might simply be an artefact of external factors like the Great Depression, etc. rather than with ‘military Keynesianism’, so you’d want to exclude that, wouldn’t you?

Countries were impacted by different factors through the 20s and 30s. There were different reasons for hardships.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
June 14, 2024 1:33 pm

According to most of the ads put out by mining companies these days, they are largely populated by women.

And the Army.

And the Navy.

All focussed on humanitarian work, caring, helping those in need, plus benefits of leadership training, education, contact with loved ones, and family life. To close with the enemy and kill them has been relegated to a very minor objective.

132andBush
132andBush
June 14, 2024 1:41 pm

One thing’s for sure.
Living standards for the average Jew in late 30’s Germany were a lot lower than the early 30’s.

kneel
kneel
June 14, 2024 1:42 pm

https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-bushfire-risk-black-summer-not-worst-ever-2000-years-of-sea-ice-reveals/3c45e6b1-ed5c-41d7-a258-c4714a5c71e8

“We know how devastating the 2019/20 Black Summer bushfires were but these new findings show natural climate variability can produce even more severe bushfire weather,” climate scientist and lead author of the study, Dr Danielle Udy, said.
“On top of that, climate change is further adding to the intensity and frequency of severe bushfire weather.”

Riiight – so variability in climate in the past caused worse bushfires than in recent history, but climate change is making things worse than EVA.

Choose:
1) these people are stupid
2) they think you are stupid

132andBush
132andBush
June 14, 2024 1:49 pm

Riiight – so variability in climate in the past caused worse bushfires than in recent history, but climate change is making things worse than EVA.

Hang on!
I thought the First Nations (TM) managed the native vegetation so as to avoid huge fires.
An integral part of their farming systems, so I’ve heard.

I just don’t know who to believe.

On a serious note, when this run of wet years comes to an end the risk of a huge fire/s will be enormous.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2024 2:29 pm

I thought the First Nations (TM) managed the native vegetation so as to avoid huge fires.

An Aboriginal Fuel Reduction Service working closely with the rural fire brigade seems to me could be a real win-win.

It fits aboriginal culture well, and their sense of country. Preserving country by fuel reduction burning would be something that they could take pride in.

I’m surprised no one has ever tried this. The community would regard it pretty highly I should think, both the value of the service and that it would provide them with real prestigious work they could do. Perhaps it is that the greenies’ adamant objection to any and all burning off makes it politically unthinkable.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2024 2:40 pm

I’ll go further and say that the Libs and Nats taking a Aboriginal Fuel Reduction Service promise to the next election would work pretty well wedging the Left. And be a decent policy too, on its own merits. I suspect Jacinta Price and Warren Mundine might go for it.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 14, 2024 2:41 pm

A bit more background following on from my error re Patton and the books he read – see mine at 8.31am.
From the excellent Patton biography “A Genius For War” by Carlo D’Este (paperback) page 379:
The blitzkrieg was largely the brainchild of Gen. Heinz Guderian, one of two impressive German military leaders whom Patton had studied closely in the late 1930s. The other was a previously obscure panzer general named Erwin Rommel. The writings of Guderian, Rommel, and a series of G-2 translations of other German military works of the period left no doubt of the powerful promise of modern armour on the battlefields of Europe – a promise tragically fulfilled at the expense of the Polish cavalry in September, 1939.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 14, 2024 2:50 pm

Australian War Memorial vandalised with graffiti
Staff writers
The Australian War Memorial has been vandalised with pro-Palestine graffiti.
A man allegedly graffitied three sections of the national memorial with pro-Palestine slogans about 1am on Friday, with the act caught on CCTV.
The graffiti was covered up by a tarp by 9am.
City Police Station Acting Inspector Lisa Broomhall said criminal damage to a national institution would not be tolerated.
“Police are very disappointed this morning to see a national institution which holds a special significance to many being vandalised,” she said in a statement.
“We would like to remind the community that while peaceful protest is part of healthy democracy, criminal acts will not be tolerated.
“Police will be investigating this matter thoroughly in an effort to ensure those involved are brought before the courts.”

At the time of the graffiti attack, the man was wearing a black jumper and face covering, and khaki pants with dark knee patches.
ACT Policing has urged anyone who can assist in identifying the man, or who has any information about the incident to contact Crime Stoppers.

Delta A
Delta A
June 14, 2024 3:08 pm

 Perhaps it is that the greenies’ adamant objection to any and all burning off makes it politically unthinkable.

You post reflects exactly my thoughts, BoN. As for being “politically unthinkable”, so was nuclear power a mere twelve months ago.

cohenite
June 14, 2024 3:48 pm

For 30 minutes Bongino describes Merrick Garland as a fuking POS:

Get Ready, the Crackdown is Coming (Ep. 2270) – 06/13/2024 (rumble.com)

I can’t see this ending well.

cohenite
June 14, 2024 3:51 pm

Blast from the past and a reminder, lest anyone forget, that our PM is a fuking imbecile:

Mar 31, 2021
“The future… is solar panels on the roof charging your electric car overnight”

WHAT? Albo says solar panels can charge your electric car at night (youtube.com)

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 14, 2024 3:52 pm

Hitler transformed Germany from an economic cot case to a dynamic industrial powerhouse by giving them all something to do.

Without going into the rest of your piece, this is very very wrong.
The price controls & regulation of labour meant all market mechanisms were gone.
Germany was going broke when WWII kicked off, not an economic powerhouse.
Their plans were to have a slave class of labour in the east & steal assets from the west.

The insanity of the totalitarian economics of Hilter & Co should be studied along side the barbarity.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 14, 2024 3:55 pm

when in late 1944 he took his own life after being implicated in the July assassination attempt?

The rehabilitation of Rommel post WWII would make Speer blush.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 14, 2024 3:56 pm

unless a migrant family unit are net taxpayers they are of no value to the country.

This is why the student class are fantastic.
And why bringing in hillbillies from the middle east & Africa is insanity.

m0nty
m0nty
June 14, 2024 4:05 pm

Good to see Paul Fletcher is likely to get turfed out after today’s NSW redistributions.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 14, 2024 4:06 pm

Germans loved the price controls during the 30’s.
And it was (& remains) an economically retarded policy.
Those price controls could not have continued in that fashion in perpetuity.
When governments control prices via subsidies, you go broke.
It’s just a matter of how long it takes.

Vicki
Vicki
June 14, 2024 4:06 pm

Sorry to harp on Victor Davis Hanson again but here is another short interview which sums up his heightened concern for America. Worth 8 minutes or so to listen to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2dtRx34d2U

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 14, 2024 4:10 pm

If you google “white house, protests, gaza” you can see coverage via a range of sources.
But over the last week or so, I can’t remember seeing any prominent coverage by anyone, legacy mainstream, alternative etc.

I thought surrounding the Whitehouse with a big red banner would have been newsworthy.

Thousands surround White House with two-mile long “red line” banner for Palestine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLst_aheeDk

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 14, 2024 4:32 pm

I don’t think WWI reparations should be ignored either. I might need to do some more reading in this area.

Muddy
Muddy
June 14, 2024 4:44 pm

Diogenes.
I hope you’re adjusting to your new circumstances as well as is practical.

My greetings also to Shatterzzzz. Best of luck with the medical stuff, mate.

The same positive wishes are directed to any Cat or Kitteh who is currently struggling or facing uncertainty.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 14, 2024 4:53 pm

CFMEU v ALPFL. Poor Albo, having to choose between fiends.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 14, 2024 4:53 pm

Of course, the CFMEU pays the bills.

KevinM
KevinM
June 14, 2024 4:59 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2024 2:29 pm

   I thought the First Nations (TM) managed the native vegetation so as to avoid huge fires.

An Aboriginal Fuel Reduction Service working closely with the rural fire brigade seems to me could be a real win-win.

It fits aboriginal culture well, and their sense of country. Preserving country by fuel reduction burning would be something that they could take pride in.

I’m surprised no one has ever tried this.

It may work in some places but most of our bush has been neglected to a degree that any wide scale burn is impossible, also the multitude of towns and infrastructure are in the way.

The aboriginies had no such problems. All they had to do is to make sure they were on the right side of the fire.
We never get back the landscape the early settlers were writing about.

With constant burning of smaller sections at a time it could be done, but it would have to be a full time continuous activity with a lot of people involved.

In the current, nay, future green political climate it won’t happen.

Lysander
Lysander
June 14, 2024 5:06 pm

Trump and Biden seem to be pretty close in the polls atm? Interesting if they both got 269 electoral college votes (I believe it then goes to a vote in the House)…

Despite all the negative press about Trump “being a felon” and whatnot, I think he’ll wipe the floor with Biden on debate night even if CNN is in charge.

MatrixTransform
June 14, 2024 5:26 pm

I thought the First Nations (TM) managed the native vegetation so as to avoid huge fires

I’ve driven the Stuart Hwy from Alice to SA border more than once
and basically for the whole journey
everything was on fire

dunno if I’d call it ‘management’

Indolent
Indolent
June 14, 2024 5:30 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
June 14, 2024 5:43 pm

Fletcher wouldn’t be missed. Just another soulless economics-law graduate like Taylor.

Indolent
Indolent
June 14, 2024 5:43 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
June 14, 2024 5:46 pm

Fletcher was one of seven Liberal MPs in the 46th Parliament of Australia who obtained degrees at an Oxbridge or Ivy League university, the others being Alan Tudge, Angus Taylor, Andrew Laming, Dave Sharma, Greg Hunt and Josh Frydenberg.

KevinM
KevinM
June 14, 2024 5:48 pm

With constant burning of smaller sections at a time it could be done, but it would have to be a full time continuous activity with a lot of people involved.

Come to think of it, mechanical removal of the undergrowth and unwanted trees would be far more efficient and could be carried out all year round.

It’s called forestry management and timber harvesting.

But even without timber harvesting it would work I think as long as the residue is removed, can be sold as mulch or burned to create electricity for EVs perhaps.

After all, if transporting wood chips from the US to the UK to burn in a power station is economical, this would be a bonanza.

Another anathema to the inner urban dwellers, so will not happen.
(have stop thinking unclean thoughts)

johnjjj
johnjjj
June 14, 2024 5:49 pm

Anyone know where is the aircraft carrier, USS Dwight D. Eisenhower hanging out ? Houthi claimed to have attacked it. The Yanks and the meeja say they didn’t. Hard to hide it a big chunk of steel.

Indolent
Indolent
June 14, 2024 6:01 pm

Dr. John Campbell with James Roguski

WHO update

KevinM
KevinM
June 14, 2024 6:07 pm

ST. OLIVIA OF PALERMO
9th C.
Feast Day: June 10

Saint Olivia (or Olive, for the olive branch, a symbol of peace, fruitfulness, dignity, and beauty) was a beautiful young girl kidnapped by the Muslims, brought to Tunisia, yet allowed to live in a cave as a hermit.

When she was found to have cured and converted many Muslims, they tortured and imprisoned her.
After converting her executioner she was burned and beheaded.

It’s said her soul was seen flying to heaven as the form of a dove. St. Olivia is held in esteem by Christians and Muslims today.

I find it hard to believe that the muslim esteem is sincere, or is it a prerequisite by islam that a saint has to be beheaded, burned by them first?

448226634_860643629424497_5396029389818118374_n
Indolent
Indolent
June 14, 2024 6:09 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 14, 2024 6:15 pm

Earlier:

Germany was going broke when WWII kicked off, not an economic powerhouse.

Their plans were to have a slave class of labour in the east & steal assets from the west

Yep. Bang on.

Lebensraum was code for ‘we need resources from the east (and southeast), and slaves to carry it back to the Fatherland’. Their arms and munitions plants during WW2 were almost exclusively manned by slave labourers from Fwance and Poland, and who had appalling death rates to boot.

Gabor
Gabor
June 14, 2024 6:21 pm

Steyn is worth reading today.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 14, 2024 6:24 pm

I’ve never read any accounts of these highfalutin’ Cultural Burning Practices in any of the early settler histories. Read heaps and heaps of small-scale entrapment burns, where wallabies could be clubbed in the panic, and par-baked puttarts picked up afterwards. Controlled catastrophes, if you will. I’m sure Keith Windschuttle will find very little evidence of the god-like gifts which the modern tribe of Greens ascribe to the promethean natives.
…and that’s why another decade of trying to engage disaffected Aboriginals with Parks and Wildlife and Fire Services will yield no usable knowledge, aside from the fact that the whole sector is wilfully spurious about the man-made nature of a (very young, anthropogenically speaking) fire-dependent landscape.
One, because if the hermetic mystery is divulged, there goes the everlasting meal ticket, and
Two, there is no Hazard Reduction Burn traditional knowledge in the first place.

Indolent
Indolent
June 14, 2024 6:25 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 14, 2024 6:31 pm

Soldiers are just the start?

@WallStreetApes

Ready To Have Your Mind Blown? The DOD (US Department of Defense) Is Providing School Lunches In America

“I thought DOD stood for something else, but you’re saying it’s definitely Department of Defense providing the school lunches?”

“Yeah”

“Who mandates this? The state and the federal government?”

“Yeah.”

—“Mandate who you buy food from?”

“Yeah”

“They’ll give us hundreds of thousands of dollars, but we can only spend it in their channels. — There there specific companies that you’re allowed to buy through

We purchase through DOD. They have their own ordering guide, and we purchased through them. But they they work out the contracts throughout the General Mills, etc”

“Sucks for you guys and it sucks for us and it sucks for the kids. And in the same respect, if the Department of Defense is supplying the food and they are the ones who are negotiating these contracts with these mega corporations like, you know, General Mills and Yeah. Nestle, all of these.

Right. Then they are incentivized to get the lowest quality at the highest, you know, price. So so then the more processed, the better for them. So, again, it seems like the only options you guys have are the things that are predetermined anyway, and so your options are limited.”

You have to watch this whole video, this is CRAZY.

132andBush
132andBush
June 14, 2024 6:35 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2024 2:29 pm

I thought the First Nations (TM) managed the native vegetation so as to avoid huge fires.

An Aboriginal Fuel Reduction Service working closely with the rural fire brigade seems to me could be a real win-win.

It fits aboriginal culture well, and their sense of country. Preserving country by fuel reduction burning would be something that they could take pride in.

I could sort of approve of this if it could be proven that aboriginals did in fact manage the land and not just torch it to flush out a roo or two when they were hungry.
The fact most of the place is now a mono culture of vegetation adapted to fire when ample geological evidence shows Australia had large swathes of deciduous forests before these 3rd Generations showed up suggests “management” was not a priority.

Indolent
Indolent
June 14, 2024 6:40 pm
132andBush
132andBush
June 14, 2024 6:46 pm

Re the graffiti on the AWM.

This is the inevitable shit that was bound to happen after those malignant, ingrate scum who oozed up to the front of The Oprah House on the night of Oct 9th 2023 were not teargassed, tasered, bludgeoned and shot with pepper pellets to within an inch of their useless lives.

Steve from kenmore
Steve from kenmore
June 14, 2024 6:48 pm

Germany was going broke when WWII kicked off, not an economic powerhouse.
Their plans were to have a slave class of labour in the east & steal assets from the west.

How desperate for money were they?
They even made sure they got the gas bill refund from their concentration camp victims.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2024 6:55 pm

Good to see Paul Fletcher is likely to get turfed out after today’s NSW redistributions.

Actually, not likely. For a start, Fletcher is unlikely to run so there’ll be someone new, and even if Fletcher runs, I reckon he’d win. Oh and I’m no fan of Paul Fletcher, a dull wet Liberal I’ve met too many times.

I know many who live in the electorate of North Sydney, I’d hazard a good guess that you don’t know anyone who lives in the electorate of North Sydney and yes, some stupidly voted Teal in 2022 but I can assure you they won’t be voting Teal at the next election.

Punched any Nazis today? How many mirrors have you had to replace at home?

Crossie
Crossie
June 14, 2024 7:11 pm

Less than 30% of Chinese students work.

Why should they? Mummy and daddy back home are funding everything. What? You thought working class Chinese were our students? No, they are the offspring of the top echelon. Before retirement I worked in a university and the most prestigious cars in the car park belonged to Chinese students, better even than those of the middle eastern drug lords.

Muddy
Muddy
June 14, 2024 7:16 pm

I’m idly watching a Youtube video about Israel’s Golani Brigade and wondering what percentage of those murdered on that shocking day in October were not Jewish? According to the presenter – an Israeli Arab who was a brigade member during one of the Lebanon wars – Israeli Arabs, Christians, Druze, etc., can enlist. I’m not aware of what civil laws exist in Israel regarding non-Jews (80% of the population, according to this bloke), but I’d guess that Israel is more diverse than her violent neighbours?

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2024 7:28 pm

On October 7 2023, most of those murdered, raped and kidnapped were Jews, about 90%. However, also raped, murdered and kidnapped were Thais, Philippinos and Israeli Arab Muslims. Many of the kibbutzim attacked were and are located near Arab villages, and Israeli Arabs were attacked. They are Bedouin..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2024 7:52 pm

feelthebern
 June 14, 2024 3:55 pm

when in late 1944 he took his own life after being implicated in the July assassination attempt?

The rehabilitation of Rommel post WWII would make Speer blush.

Quite so.
I think Bandana Man was recently lauding Rommel as “an honourable soldier”.
Bullshit.
Like he didn’t know what was going on.
Any attempt to overthrow Hitler was no doubt driven by a realisation the war was lost, and an attempt to save his sorry arse.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 14, 2024 8:27 pm

The abos exterminated the megafauna and burned the place to the ground at random. “Firestick” farming it wasn’t. We’re left with gumtrees which need to be exterminated. In an act of bio warfare we’ve even exported the damn things to America and Europe.

KevinM
KevinM
June 14, 2024 8:40 pm

Eyrie
June 14, 2024 8:27 pm

The abos exterminated the megafauna and burned the place to the ground at random. “Firestick” farming it wasn’t. We’re left with gumtrees which need to be exterminated. In an act of bio warfare we’ve even exported the damn things to America and Europe.

With the same results. Uncontrollable bush fires.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2024 8:50 pm

Almost all of the Wehrmacht, from the high command to the ordinary soldier, either directly knew about the atrocities and mass murder from active participation in the atrocities and mass murder, or from witnessing first hand the atrocities and mass murder, or from conversing with other soldiers about the atrocities and mass murder. And actually, there are times when the Wehrmacht rounded up and murdered Jews, Slavs and Gypsies.

The standard practice was that the Wehrmacht would enter a region, be it Poland, Ukraine, Belorussia or the Baltic States, and immediately afterwards the SS would arrive and the killings began.

I know this, because a close friend’s father, who was a teenager in 1939 when the Germans invaded Poland, recalls vividly the cruelty and butchery of the Wehrmacht.

They all knew, Rommel knew, Stauffenberg also knew. Many only turned when the war was tanking.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 14, 2024 9:00 pm

The Bungonia Bee mused:

It’s 3am and Joe has to be woken and told that missiles have been launched at the USA. What happens next?

The same concerns were voiced in the mid 80s over the frequently clueless Ronald Reagan. Then the USA’s approach of grin-and-bear-it seems to be the solution today too. At least until the election.

Muddy
Muddy
June 14, 2024 9:21 pm

From Gabor’s 6:21 p.m. link to Mark Steyn’s most recent update:

… politics is covered by the media largely as a closed-shop soap-opera with no real-world meaning …

… I don’t believe working-glass girls should be gang-raped with impunity just because the Diversity Outreach Officer thinks it’s a bit of a touchy subject …and I don’t think legions of people crippled and bereaved by a vaccine they never needed to take and which has now been withdrawn worldwide should have their very existence denied just because it’s politically embarrassing …

Kudos to those like Steyn – and perhaps fewer than a handful of public standing here in Australia – who have staked their reputations and livelihoods against the giant woodchipper known as the grubbermint, and the grubbermint’s enforcers, including its communications militia.

I won’t be forgetting anytime soon, you pathological, parasitic cowards. Eff you and the syphilitic smut-monkey unicorn faecal-cake you rode in on!

Last edited 9 days ago by Muddy
Rabz
June 14, 2024 9:32 pm

Steyn is worth reading today.

Yes, yes he is.

Unless you’re a bat flu hitlerist and quaccine spruiker. At least two of which blight this esteemed blogue.

Bill Leak and Mark Steyn – a pair of mighty anti-authoritarian warriors, one of whom is dead, hounded by collectivists deadsh*ts to an early grave and the other is just about to be.

This is what happens when you oppose the collectivist globohomo all seeing state, mate.

They go very very subterraneanly low, including threatening your kiddies, while holding you in room 101.

The essence of evil leavened with deafening staggering stupidity doesn’t even close to describing their hideously malign influence on this planet.

Sooner or later (and the sooner, the better) we will have to start clubbing them mercilessly to death.

On a brighter note, I have my collection of Louisville Sluggers ready to go. 🙂

Bruce in WA
June 14, 2024 9:37 pm

Friday night …

Loving this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ufkMTshjz8

Have the movie. Must watch it.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
June 14, 2024 9:43 pm

Hard to hide it a big chunk of steel.

Ever swum an ocean? It’s a needle in a haystack.

Bruce in WA
June 14, 2024 9:48 pm

After 45 years together, I owe this song (among a lot of other things) to my wife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7f189Z0v0Y

Muddy
Muddy
June 14, 2024 9:57 pm

If every Caucasian’s a bigot, then every Muslim’s a terrorist…

(Tom MacDonald, ‘Fake Woke’).

Bruce in WA
June 14, 2024 10:01 pm

One of the most haunting film theme suites ever.

We’ve been to alive performance where the live music was overdubbed in the movie. It was, literally, unforgettable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vC6AfPMuDk

Bruce in WA
June 14, 2024 10:12 pm

OK, time for a good scotch, a book and bed.

But before I go … because Henry is the best Superman yet … and Amy Adams has the best butt in cinema!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xby-fjSk0qc

Sleep tight, peeps.

JC
JC
June 15, 2024 12:32 am

I know it was being largely directed at rearmament but if GDP per capita is improving people’s quality of life will also be improving.

At the very beginning, I mentioned “living standards”, because when a country goes on a massive rearmament splurge, per capita GDP isn’t a realistic measure of well being compared to when production mostly goes towards satisfying consumer wants.

Second time you mentioned Russia in two unrelated discussions. But, no, its just that the claim that living standards in Germany declined in the 30s appeared, and still does appear, suspect.

It;’s not suspect at all. National resources are limited, and those Nazi bozos were directing production to go on a killing spree.

Did food become more scare through the 30s?

Scarcer. Dietary habits changed for the worse.

Look, these clowns were importing steel from Sweden and instead of using it to produce cars, they were building arms.

I urge you to read that link I posted as it’s a worthwhile read.

You asked how did the other three countries go in the 30s. Out of the three, Britain appears to have handled things reasonably well. The US was contending with FDR’s polices, which were an absolute disaster. France? I really can’t say other than they went through some serious political and economic turmoil during that time.

There was no such thing as a world wide great depression. In the 30’s, and with a few exceptions, every major economy was experimenting with economic bullshit. There were some things that mattered globally, like Smoot Hawley and inappropriate gold /currency linkage. However, most countries were just following retarded economics. The US didn’t have a rearmament problem in the 30s as the US military was a bit of a joke. They had an FDR problem.

Last edited 9 days ago by JC
JC
JC
June 15, 2024 1:09 am

But satisfaction of consumer wants isn’t a realistic measure of well-being either. Having 10 varieties of this or that doesn’t mean well-being is booming.

In simple terms, consumer wants also carry to demand for such things as healthcare. Read the link for a better understanding of what was going on there. Mortality and hospitalization increased materially across the population and a large part of it was due to dietary changes. Well-being doesn’t just carry over to the purchase of a radio. They became short of hospital beds.

Scarcer. Dietary habits changed for the worse.

Is this demonstrated in the link?

Yes.

The link also talks about how the work week increased by about 3.5 hours that wasn’t compensated.

You should also realize that because those clowns essentially destroyed the market place, the price mechanism no longer worked. Part of the Nazi’s UK embassy tasks was to gather information on prices of consumer goods in order to assist them to price the internal market.

Last edited 9 days ago by JC
  1. Journos fall for spin as they tiptoe around ChinaChris Mitchell The Australian 23 June, 2024If facts can no longer be…

  2. What’s your costings for getting to net zero Monty? You must ensure that there are no blackouts for a proper…

  3. Digging up prime farmland to get the green revolution fuelled. Note the nice bit at the end about returning the…

  4. Since the invention of electricity there has not been any grid level storage mechanism. There still isn’t. Generation tracks instantaneous…

1.5K
0
Oh, you think that, do you? Care to put it on record?x
()
x