Tom Stiglich.
Open Thread – Weekend 13 July 2024
- Open Thread – Mon 16 Sept 2024
- No, Your Holiness, killing babies and border control are not the same
- Open Thread – Weekend 14 Sept 2024
- Open Thread – Thurs 12 Sept 2024
- Open Thread – Mon 9 Sept 2024
Matt Margolis.
Brett Lethbridge.
Peter Broelman.
Mark Knight.
An excellent article on the Teddy Roosevelt assassination attempt.
https://www.history.com/news/shot-in-the-chest-100-years-ago-teddy-roosevelt-kept-on-talking
Joseph Stalin was so worried and concerned about food security he killed around 20 million Russians in effort to “fix” the problem.
From the usual suspects:
Trump Indicted For Inciting Assassination Attempt (13 Jul)
They’re quick.
This overhead from the SMH, starkly illustrating the respective position of Trump, the marksman & the obstacles (haha) in between.
(red cross by me, as SMH had the marksman in the wrong position)
Perfidious Albino
July 14, 2024 11:59 am
Statement released between the first and second shots?
Pity the poor interns at the WH now having to quickly write a new speech since the planned one is not applicable.
Tell us again how the left didn’t promote this.
Oh God! I nearly peed myself!
Channel TEN did not bother airing news of the attempted assassination on Donald Trump for over an hour.
They kept on with the cooking programs for the time slot.
No longer circling the drain, fully flushed after this outrage.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13632165/Channel-10-Donald-Trump-shot-rally.html
Bill Ackman and Musk endorse Trump today,
miltonf at 12:01
McCallum is the worst.
Tries to project the “voice of reason” persona, whilst cheering on the violence out of the other corner of his mouth.
Whether it be anti-Semite Pally protesters, pot-shots at Trump or union standover men, the routine doesn’t change:-
1. Of course, we condemn violence in any form;
2. But …
3. It’s “a complicated situation requiring a nuanced response”;
4. Legitimate grievances;
5. Trump/Jews/LNP/Bosses should be careful about “inflaming tensions” and “stoking communidy divisions”.
It turns out that the DEI appointment (by Mayorkis) for the SS director is a woman whose previous job was security head of Pepsi Co.
Her main claim to fame was developing and implementing new risk assessment and such, cyber type security and facility security.
The stinking rot, right at the top.
Secret Service (a US govt agency) states:
1 x audience member killed.
2 x audience members in ‘critical’ condition.
1 x former President “earmarked like livestock”.
Plus: one carcass on a rooftop, starting to go off in the summer heat.
This morning I have watched the attempted assassination of President Trump with my elderly mother. She’s now a grieving widow and very fragile, and she cries a lot. Watching the television, when Trump when down on the podium, she started sobbing but when, encased by secret service men and women, he was held up and he then raised his fist into the air, Mum cried out……
Go Trump!
God Bless Donald Trump. God Bless America.
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 10:37 am
Thank you Your rebuttal to the Nazi nails it.
KJP has announced that the young ANTIFA lad is reported as being unavailable to attend his planned White House reception.
Trump turning his head to his right saved him.
You’d have to cross quite a few state lines to get from Arkansas to Butler Pennsylvania.
About now, the housemates, employer, close associates etc of the extinguished rooftop antifa would be having their lives & premises turned upside down.
This may be a case of God looking after fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.
If you were religious you might think that The Lord has sent his Paladin to rescue the United States from evil and he has sent us a sign.
Interesting thought.
Great tweet by Ashley St Clair. The US media is F**ked.
https://x.com/stclairashley/status/1812268073128223168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1812268073128223168%7Ctwgr%5E372d34aafc4f4d5ab215e4f1f285cb9428b3da8b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fcrime%2F2024%2F07%2F13%2Floud-noises-trump-falls-cnn-wapo-downplay-assassination-attempt%2F
I think JC’s anecdotal evidence of his daughter (who I got the impression was largely apolitical) now deciding she is voting for Trump will be repeated x millions across the US today.
And I suspect that, come Monday morning, the usual far-left nutters who are used to shooting (ahem) their mouth off in the workplace might find that their long-suffering and reserved colleagues calling their bullshit out.
Someone on the internet just reminded us of the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan ……..RR won the next election by a landslide……
alleged shooter
125 metre? Head shot? Hit target.
Has some training, I think.
Be interesting to find out who exactly the filthy animal was.
FOX News is going full on asking why the hell wasn’t the building used by the shooter, covered by security. Keep it up until brains start to bleed.
Bad part though, the FBI will be conducting the investigation into the security lapse.
Pogria
July 14, 2024 12:49 pm
Note the equivalence.
Biden can’t manage stairs.
So we report it as “Trump fell over.”
This is the turd that tried to have Trump’s Security detail removed.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/13/flashback-bennie-thompson-top-dem-pelosis-j6-committee-called-stripping-trumps-secret-service-protection/
I can’t see Trump losing now. Next poll will be telling.
This man at the rally is 100% spot on. The media did this.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/07/hated-filled-channel-10-host-mocks-trump-after-assassination-attempt.html
Waking up in Europe to this, Go Trump go!
The meja are like a smoldering rubbish heap.
There are two options here.
One, manage the risk. DJT – remembering he’s a former rather than current POTUS, so his detail will be substantial but nowhere near Biden’s – speaks at big, public-space rallies to tens of thousands of punters every second day, all around the country for months at a time.
It simply wouldn’t be possible to have every single building ‘covered by security’ within 2000m of the podium – 2000m being the outside range of elite snipers.
Plus, a rooftop is one of the last places they’d ‘cover’. Ideally you’d want to position yourself inside a room, far enough back to hide muzzle flash and with a direct line of sight to target and also with a backdrop to camouflage you.
Two, put DJT in a Popemobile – which opens the door for morons to call him a coward.
I wonder if the FBI/Homeland Security have the balls to not declare Antifa a Terrorist organisation?
I’ve seen enough.
Trained assassin stooge put in place by a state actor.
I am astounded that the usual suspects have yet to come out with the trifecta pro forma in relation to the Antifa shooter:
1 – Lone wolf.
2 – Mental health.
3 – Motivation unclear.
It was planned.
@catturd2
Oh really?
Vicki
July 14, 2024 12:55 pm
That was different.
Very different.
John Hinckley was a truly mentally deranged loon who picked a high-profile target in the hope of impressing Hollywood actress Jodie Foster.
Not suggesting the shooter here wasn’t a loon, and the act wouldn’t impress a few in Hollywood.
But I think it is likely we will find that the shooter here believed he was saving the country by assassinating “literally Hitler”.
And we will probably find he was an avid consumer of rabid far-left media (MSNBC, NYT, CNN etc).
In the witness interview posted earlier he said that he was trying to warn the police and SS before it happened and they did nothing.
@elonmusk
Extreme incompetence or it was deliberate. Either way, the SS leadership must resign.
President Biden:-
“Dr Jill and I would like to send ourlove and prayers to former Vice President Grover Cleveland after his shooting by Jodie Foster.”
Another eye witness says that he told law officers there was a man on the roof climbing between multiple rooftops and they did absolutely nothing to stop him until it was too late! WTF!
We need an investigation into the Trump assassination attempt immediately!
“I saw a guy on top of one of the buildings, go in between one building to the next, and went and told the officer that he was up there. And when I went back to my spot I heard that people could still see the person from where they were standing so I checked that out, and I went and went back to tell the officer that if he came over there he could see them. And when I turned my back it’s when the shots when the shots started and it was it took me a second or two to figure out exactly what it was. And then it was just getting out of there…and helping some other person out with her child and we got out And that was that was the end of that And I went and left and that was all….So this man was able to basically…climb to the next building…and you told law enforcement, Hey there’s a guy over there. Correct I don’t know how he got up there I don’t know any of that but I definitely saw him up there And, sir, And that was…that was all.”
I must admit I can’t see it.
@HarazGhanbari
A remarkable photo captured by my former White House Press Corps colleague Doug Mills.
Zoom in right above President Trump’s shoulder and you’ll see a bullet flying in the air to the right of President Trump’s head following an attempted assassination.
@thecjpearson
OMG this one I can see!
@MAGAGEM1
Did he take one in the vest?
FMD monty is coping well with what is the biggest news story since 9/11.
He shouldn’t have taken the call.
re-watching the footage, I applaud Donald’s command to “let me get my shoes”.
The wits of this man. Yes, he has been a showman for decades and has always been able to zero in on the perfect sound bite, but THIS, this situation would have had many of us filling our shoes if we had still been in them.
Footage on Skah of Biden ascending the stairs onto Air Force One.
Comfortable shoes.
No socks.
Gay.
The effect will be similar- possibly even much stronger for DJT. This would be assassin is clearly rabidly opposed to Trump. Biden knows this is severely damaging too – that’s why his campaign has jerked all campaign ads in an effort at damage control.
re: Orange Man Mad.
After the SS were onto him and they are wanting him to move, but before he does the fist pump…
Why on earth did he say “let me get my shoes” to the SS?
Must be some expensive shoes.
RSBN’s broadcast did not have a closeup at the time of the shots and cut audio soon after unfortunately.
Ch7 are playing the clip of the SS snipers who reacted so fast.
Video Shows U.S Secret Service Spotting and Watching Shooter Prior to Shots – Doing Nothing, Then Flinching with Inbound Bullets
Dunno if I have the timezone right but this looks to be just about to start.
https://x.com/PSPTroopDPIO/status/1812325678185840647
(Not a link to the press conference, but it’ll be online somewhere.)
This shot has effectively completed the polarisation of the US.
Found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDfiTGGPYCk
I love all the ‘it was planned!’ announcements by thought leaders.
There I was thinking it was an accidental assassination attempt.
Gunman reportedly a 20-year-old man from Pennsylvania
Ellie Dudley
The gunman who shot Donald Trump in the middle of a Republican rally was reportedly 20 year old Pennsylvania man, Thomas Matthew Crooks.
The NY Post has identified Crooks as the gunman who fired multiple shots at the former US President, one of which grazed his ear.
Sources said Crooks was planted on a roof about 275m from the stage at Butler Farm Show grounds.
Crooks was killed by US Secret Service snipers within minutes of the attempted assassination.
An earlier statement from the Secret Service noted agents had “neutralised the shooter, who is now deceased.”
“US Secret Service quickly responded with protective measures and former President Trump is safe. One spectator was killed, and two spectators were critically injured,” the statement read.
“This incident is currently under investigation. and the Secret Service has notified the FBI.”
275 meters? This bloke must have fancied himself as a shot.
Joe Biden is cognitively fine.
A cock in a frock is a woman.
Political violence comes from the right.
The slogan ‘from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’ is not a cry for genocide against the Jews.
Hamas didn’t rape or murder anyone on 7 October 2023.
Hamas are freedom fighters.
Ya get it, folks? They don’t even try and hide their lies and gaslighting anymore.
Republican Congressman Accuses Biden of Ordering Trump Shooting
They’re not prepared to formally ID the shooter yet. He had no identification on him. Thinks his name can be released in “a few hours”. Doing DNA checks. FBI guy says they had no forewarning.
Locking up your political opponent, assorted charges to use if one doesn’t work, and if all else fails, assassination.
USA.
Pakistan.
FBI guy says the other casualties were due to the perp. Police chief says two critically wounded one killed. Not able to release names as notifying family.
Says the firing by the shooter was “somewhat scattered”. Sounds odd. Was he that bad a shot?
They’re not prepared to formally ID the shooter yet. He had no identification on him.
Yet it was stated at the presser that he was a 20 year male.
The Left are mad.
SWMBO reports that at her Kooyong tennis group this morning, one of the members – a highly educated and lovely woman in her early 70s, married to one of the brightest blokes I know, who has both authored a book on ancient Greek commerce and was in large part responsible for the reconstruction of the AFL in the 90s, which pretty much saved it from oblivion – said “pity it wasn’t a couple of inches to the right”.
SWMBO held her tongue (there is a first for everything!) but my engagement with her when next we dine (which is semi-regularly) on just when cold blooded murder because you don’t like someone is justified should provide a lively philosophical discourse.
Her thoughts on the poor bloke who had his brains blown out for the heinous crime of being in the audience of a political rally, or of the two others still in critical condition, will also be enlightening.
I think I’ll only order entree.
I’m live blogging the press conference Vicki. It’s underway right now at the YT link just upthread.
State Overreach
Former CDC Director now admits that the COVID “vaccines” NEVER should have been mandated
4 years of DoJ lawfare, daily MSM vilification, WH vindictiveness and finally alerts from patrons at the rally didn’t twig you to impending severe risk? Pull the other one, dickhead.
The US media is F**ked.
Ours leave a lot to be desired too.
It’s a small step from where the ABC is to where the lying, cheating, complicit and now discredited US MSM is.
Obviously learned a lesson from ‘Die Hard’.
But rooftops seemed to be the only likely spot where someone could get the elevation for a clear line of sight.
Given there were no Book Suppository buildings in the vicinity, they would be the next most likely spot. He didn’t seem to be wearing tin roof camouflage and would be easy to spot.
So why wasn’t he?
Trump (and the entire Republican Party) should be insisting that he be given exactly the same security as Biden.
And, if they jib, call them enablers of political violence (which they are).
Indolent, can we count on you to tally up the flood of inconvenient news which will be released in the shadow of the story of the century?
Gunman identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks, according to reports
Daily Mail.
Now, he was on a roof 130 yards away.
@RepThomasMassie
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The same bureau that investigated the Las Vegas shooting and the January 6th pipe bombs is now investigating the attempted assassination of Trump.
This is also the same bureau that raided Mar-a-Lago.
I’m sure they’ll get to the bottom of this soon.
FBI guy says definitively that “no” Trump’s team did not request additional security.
Liar.
Press con now over. It’ll be on YT pretty soon I assume.
No.
When Orange Man dropped below the podium it is likely the far-left loon just decided to unleash on the crowd.
Historically, what Biden did was say “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”
He owns it.
The live coverage YT has still been going, now with Fox talking heads. Doing a pretty good job of summarising.
I’m amused that they’ve chosen the worst possible photo of Trump for their graphics. He looks about 110 years old in them. Typical Fox.
Trump would be safer hiring his own private security, rather than relying on the USG snakes to have his back.
As dover mentioned, why TF were not a couple of cheap drones deployed to surveil rooftops around about the venue? That dude had to climb up (I saw an elevated unverified pic of a ladder leaning against the building), get into position, set up for the shot and wait for Trump. Time enough to easily spot a sniper in the open on a roof.
Sundance : “There are Trillions at stake”.
Crooks is a registered Republican, allegedly.
Struth put up a great pic at the furniture store. yeah, yeah, so what, it’s a great pic.
Body Language: Trump Assassination Attempt
note the bullet hole in his jacket
Hairy corrects me that the shooter wasn’t aiming directly between Trump’s eye but at the back part of his his head, his brain, and Trump’s head turn to the right was what saved him. Hairy’s done all the specs on the angles etc so I believe him. He also thinks the shooter would have to have had some very good sniper training in order to take that shoot. Not just your ordinary antifa thug, he opines.
It was, I think, a good thing for Trump to take Biden’s call. If he had not it might have been read by some people as a pointed accusation of complicity on the part of the White House and inflamed tempers further, particularly in the context of the ongoing escalating tricks to keep Trump from contesting the next election. And, frankly, all the snippets and fragments of information we have now will have a half-life measured in days. In a few days half of the stuff being sprayed about on news reports, blogs, and X, will be discovered to be inaccurate and replaced with details not even examined yet.
By taking the call (which will itself have no human value in itself because Biden is scarcely human and his staff not at all) Trump is signalling to remain civil and not to do anything precipitate.
To be honest I really would not put government complicity beyond the bounds of possibility but you really want to be sure before saying so because establishing a precedent of just leaping to conclusions based upon worst expectations of an opponent will not serve America well.
And it is going to be Trump’s and the ordinary folk he represents’ America after all.
Just to make an unplanned comment.
You know what? My comment about thought leaders wasn’t directed at anyone here. It’s a well known expression which even had it’s own Wikipedia entry that perfectly described the wankers on twitter I was referring to.
Deploy the TPPA (Trump Personal Protection Apparatus)
The wrong guy?
Yes no way with jawline it’s the same person.
NYP needs to delete its article.
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1812348689140400578?t=XXW9Y8HFs34jODaXiHXoAw&s=19
Has Trump recently made a joke about having some incriminating info on Hillary Clinton?
Bill Gates is a cancer upon society.
Study Reveals Bill Gates’ Fake Meat Causes ‘Turbo Cancers’ in Humans
As usual, hot takes on the shooter’s identity are flying thick and fast without much verification. Seeing something about a Matthew Yearick as well.
“It was planned.
@catturd2
Oh really?”
Sorry, KD, but anyone on a roof within 200m of Trump with a rifle in hand that has time to lie prone and take several shoots is a massive security failure. The fact that it is easy to identify the relevant buildings in a semi-rural area, you have counter-sniper teams with binos monitoring the area, and it looks like members of the public spotted this before security did is terrible. I have also now heard talk that the counter-sniper steams were local police, not SS.
I make no claim to any sort of expertise but I get the sense that people often, immediately after abrupt traumatic events, can form an eerie ‘normal’ focus on minutiae.
That said, seconds later Trump had the wherewithal to address his audience and do the fist bump so it is quite likely he was composed the whole time.
That is going to be a great image though. If he had been fired at, ducked, and then got back up defiant it would be inspiring enough. Hollywood-esque. But he was bloodied and even he would have been uncertain how much harm he may have sustained – you don’t feel fragments in the brain.
Iconic.
Puts Biden’s stories of driving 200 wheeler trucks on Mars with Nelson Mandela at the Battle Against Kitchen Grime against Generalissimo Corn Pop in the shade.
BREAKING: VIDEO SURFACES OF TRUMP SHOOTER THOMAS MATTHEW CROOKS FROM BEFORE THE SHOOTING
It’s amazing that the crowd mostly stayed in their seats after the shots were fired. Although they sheltered at first, they didn’t stampede, flee etc. I reckon that would have happened in any other country – including Oz.
Maybe they are just used to mass shootings over there.
Footage showing the Moment that the Shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks had Opened Fire on the Trump Rally in Butler County, Pennsylvania as well as him being Killed seconds later by a Secret Service Counter-Sniper.
m0nty
July 14, 2024 2:38 pm
When did he register?
And for what purpose?
Except I wasn’t.
Might be the best/funniest tweet of the whole situation.
https://x.com/CyberPunkCortes/status/1812323949125972279
Good grief, I make a little joke about the insightfulness of twitter thought leaders and some sad sack has a spazz attack.
Get over yourself.
Plenty good info on Conservative Treehouse. Cops at event did nothing despite being told there was a dude climbing over roofs with a long rifle. His commentary on the SS snipers isn’t complementary. ID of the rifle used is TBC too. Some of the comments are from mil guys saying the shooter probably snatched the trigger of had his breathing wrong or elevated heartbeat for someone who is probably inexperienced but caveated if he was using an AR15.
However even Sundance stipulates more will come out about this later…
Laughable.
m0nster produces a non-descript screenshot with a name blanked out, a d.o.b. and a city of residence (not an address.
Something any dick could do online in 20 seconds.
And this would prove what exactly?
That it was an inside job?
That it was a disgruntled tanning products salesman?
Incidentally, got a flu vaccination this morning, was well and truly exposed to a sufferer last week and it appears to have passed me by but doctor suggested I go ahead and get it.
So I did.
Has Albo made a statement about the rising danger of Islamaphobia and Homophobia after the assassination attempt?
The crazies have started.
Today’s attempt on Donald Trump’s life is being filed next to the fake moon landing.
IT WAS STAGED PEOPLE!!! bwahahahahaha
Rosie
July 14, 2024 2:45 pm
Thought Leader is a commonly used expression.
Not always complimentary.
But could be almost anyone.
CBS News Report reveals what Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle has been focused on: diversity hires
so many female SS on scene quite ridiculous really
: It appears the sh**ter donated to Biden
The MSM ought to just say nothing unless info is confirmed. Repeated errors on identity of the shooter. Claiming Trump was injured by shrapnel and not a bullet. Unless confirmed they should just shut up.
Conspiracy theorists claim Trump’s attempted assassination was ‘staged’ using FAKE BLOOD
Daily Mail.
MONTY!!!!!
Respectfully Doverlord, but this illustrates my point.
I have heard it said in certain circles that when a POTUS has a planned visit to, say an overseas location and with a dedicated itinerary, that the SS will deploy advance parties weeks ahead to scope out just these sorts of things.
Their resources will be finite. Trump will of course have SS details, but not nearly to the level of the current bumbler. Therefore, and given the multitude of speaking events DJT is doing across multiple states and in quick succession, if they are relying on local jacks for counter-sniper response it will be lacking compared to planned and organised SS activities.
Nobody’s going to say ‘Donald you have to scale back your speech program’, so local blokes will have to be relied on for things like counter-sniper functions.
Add in multiple communication nets forced on them by the abovementioned reliance (which may or may not explain the delays the big ranga witness pointed out – ‘he’s over there, on the roof’), and it’s probably not terrible they separated the bloke’s head from the rest of him in the time they did.
On the homefront Wallet Wizard reckons we’ll get a surplus this year. Strike me pink if it isn’t in time for an election:
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/treasurer-jim-chalmers-flags-202324-surplus-likely-to-grow-beyond-93bn-forecast-in-budget/news-story/2d69a859f1c130d278bef1b6a69e9fa8
It will be like every ALP Budget for the last 25 years all smoke and mirrors that analysts will swallow hook line & sinker. Pull the other one Jim it plays Jingle Bells.
Trump cannot now trust the Secret Service period. The shooter was on an open roof in an elevated position about 150m away.
No way in hell he could not be seen and ever less chance he could get a shot away.
A suicide mission He knew he was going to die but the mission was worth it.
The Secret Service allowed him to get a shot away before they killed him. The plot was only foiled when he missed.
Trump can’t trust anyone again.
Footage shown this morning…one of the “counter-snipers” featured was clearly identified on his vest as police.
Thousands of conservatives paid five quid to the labour party so they could vote for Jezza Corbyn in the 2015 leadership election.
After that disaster, labour changed their eligibility rules.
Rockdoctor,
Don’t know if you checked my reply this morning; I’ve been told Kira Korolev was in Signals Corps.
As the Bondi stabbing showed – wait 24 hours for the perpetrator to become known. I suspect Thomas Crooks is in for a big pay day.
July 14, 2024 3:35 pm
About now comes the claim of victimhood and several white knights galloping to the things rescue.
For those with a strong stomach, photo of slain assassin on Zerohedge website.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-bleeding-rushed-stage-after-shots-fired-pennsylvania-rally
FBI Confirms Would-Be Trump Assassin as Thomas Matthew Crooks, Matches Democrat Donor Description Per FEC Data
https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/07/13/breaking-trump-shot-during-rally-secret-service-covers-45-holding-bloodied-ear
Albo makes it about himself.
Anthony Albanese responds to ‘confronting’ Donald Trump shooting (Tele, not paywalled)
Well ok he has a point. There are a fair number of excitable people who might want to assassinate him right now, mainly living in Western Sydney.
18C
https://x.com/ZionistFedAus/status/1812338375942414804?t=X3rcQ5UPjD2KGNLqART-Zw&s=19
Digger
July 14, 2024 3:53 pm
Yes.
I get what KD says in a general sense about scoping out locations and managing risk.
But this wasn’t a five mile motorcade through residential apartment buildings which is very difficult to manage.
It was a static location with only 4-5 possible elevated vantage points. The simple solution would be to secure the entry points to those locations and declare the rooftops a no-go zone. Helicopter (or even a $199.95 drone) surveillance would have ensured that protocol wasn’t breached, or at least dealt with in seconds if it was.
I think we are going to see more rallies in stadiums with controlled entry points than open fields.
To watch monty trying to defend an attempt on the frontrunner to the Presidency, by refusing to accept that someone from his side of politics tried this shit, is astonishing.
What a germ monty is. That’s your lot dickhead. Be silent
Anders
July 14, 2024 4:06 pm
Yes, I watched as many links as I could manage between chores and the only claim I can categorically refute is that it was a staged event by Trump and associates.
I will wait for a few more days for the true facts to emerge, if ever?
Bit sloppy response but from the police not noticing a gunman on a roof and doing nothing or little.
If they could shoot him so easily, surely they must have noticed him.
Questions, pesky questions.
Here is the best footage of the Penn police who were on the roof focussed on the guy with the AR who took the shots at Trump. Two guys – a spotter & a marksman. Why the hell did they wait for the shooter to fire before taking him out? Maybe the current law fare – you must wait for an assault before returning fire.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/07/13/video-of-u-s-secret-service-spotting-and-watching-shooter-prior-to-shots-doing-nothing-then-flinching-with-inbound-bullets/
The spotter and the marksman
Not surprised at all.
And comical. 4 or 5 ponytail girls dressed as men , bundling DJT into the black Suburban exiting the event. This is the ultimate diversity hire fk up.
They may have thought he was one of them or the Secret Service.
I agree with Stevo’s commentary here.
Blunt and to the point.
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Steve Inman:
Trump gets shot at Rally
https://rumble.com/v56uexp-trump-gets-shot-at-rally.html
I am not entirely sure those two were returning fire.
At least not in the clip shown.
Quote from Sky
An amazing claim, if true.
I hear 3 shots fired in close succession and to me they all sound the same.
That’s before another rapid volley that happens a few seconds later (return fire maybe).
From The Australian.
As the crowd fled the scene, the horror and confusion of what had just happened were just sinking in. Witnesses named Lisa Reynolds, 55, and Debbie Jacob, 57, told me that the gunman wasn’t in the crowd but outside.
“We were about 150 yards from the shooter. We didn’t see him, but we heard the pops and saw the smoke from his fire,” Jacob said. “He wasn’t in the crowd, he was behind the chain fence. He must have had a rifle to get the shots that far — he must have been 500, 600 yards away. The Secret Service all ran for him and started jumping the fence.”
“The smoke from his fire?” Seriously?
Why are you sure of that?
What I see and hear is the first shot, at which point the guy on the right hits the deck and the guy in front crouches down and his weapon points skywards.
LOL. I submitted eight comments to The Australian re the attempted assassination of President Trump. Four were accepted, but four longer were ones rejected. Community standards, it seems. The rejected comments all had some critical things to say about the main stream media’s role in promoting violent reactions.
They don’t like it when it comes home to roost with them.
Footage appears to show rifle and body on roof after Trump shot
All this stuff about the directions the shots came from.
Has anyone mentioned a Grassy Knoll yet?
Lol
https://x.com/jeremykauffman/status/1812262382539845849?t=LPr_WKxc0wIx-HxPtXgibA&s=19
Megyn Kelly’s Message About the Need to Vote Trump After He Survives Horrific Assassination Attempt
Further statement from the White House:-
No, really, they fudged this story?
Reports that Donald Trump now wishes to be known as Vincent van Trump.
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 4:44 pm
I am not entirely sure those two were returning fire.
Correct, Crooks (if that’s his name),as seen lying on the roof, was shot in the back of the head, as shown by the congealed blood trails.
The TWO police snipers (there was no spotter in the photos) would have shot Crooks in the face or around the left side of the head. Also, their high-caliber weapons/bullets would have blown out Crook’s right skull region, the photo shows no such injury..
More questions than answers, at this stage.
Setka resigns and now there is talk of deregistration. After all that loot scattered to the alp and greens at the last election? Sounds like elbo may be weeding the garden before an election
Bloodied but unbowed
Another trusted blogger
https://x.com/TheMossadIL/status/1812385181791359011?t=qM3472toGDC3OqcYO2Wwtw&s=19
Gilas at 5:22.
I initially thought the shots I heard might have been return fire by Plod, and the camera mike didn’t pick up the failed assassins fire.
But the key marker in the video is where Trump stops speaking and hits the deck. The reaction of the two guys on the roof looks more like taking cover than returning fire.
Did the shooter kill himself?
Great analysis and images of the Trump assassination attempt by the demorats by Body Language Ghost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UwWxJQN_sY
I would never ask a woman to get in the line of fire to protect ANYONE.
But, I’ll give it to those gals bundling Trump offstage, they didn’t flinch in doing what they were there to do.
They are reporting that the assassin is a registered Republican.
Dover
Not that I know anything about those Chinese banks, but you may want to ask Arnold Bertrand why were these banks suddenly acquired. Sudden acquisitions like that aren’t usually done because they’re healthy. We saw those types of acquisitions in the GFC and a few years ago during the run up of rates in the US.
I don’t know why Rowan Dean and Outsiders uses those never Trumper dickheads sean spicer and Annelise Nielsen. Nielson tried to turn it into a gun issue and spicer was very cautious.
Farmer Gez
July 14, 2024 5:39 pm
I think that is one possibility.
Knowing he has missed and the opportunity had passed, he could easily have topped himself.
The Trump shooter was wearing a shirt with the logo of Demolition Ranch, a YouTube channel for gun fondlers.
So… a lone wolf?
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 5:37 pm
Giles at 5:22.
I initially thought the shots I heard might have been return fire by Plod,
Given the unknown quality of the audio equipment used, it’s hard to be really sure, but all the audible shots seemed to be from a small caliber weapon, .22 or .22 magnum. Any small centrefire round (Rem .223s, 22-250s or similar), even if sound-suppressed, would have been much, much louder.
I agree, the police snipers did not shoot Crooks.. wrong angle.
If that was Biden, the shot would have got him right in the speech-writers earpiece.
Pure feculation on my part. But possibly the shooter was hiding over the roof ridge till he slithered over for his shot??
Er no. Plenty of your lot want this
The US Secret Service is the Democratic Party’s Republican Guard.
That’s why the Secret Service didn’t allocate resources to ensure a sniper couldn’t take a shot at Trump from 130 yards away — a routine security sweep.
Unofficial White House director Barack Obama has blood on his hands.
Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents, assuming they are alive. The Feds would be crawling all over their house.
Today, in Sydney’s CBD, there was another progressive and Muslim Nazi rally….again intimidating Australian Jews.
Banners were held aloft on our CBD streets advocating intifada. The NSWaffen Police stood back and did nothing
Smack bang right outside the Great Synagogue on Elizabeth Street, a banner was held up with the words “Sanction Israel” and the synagogue gates were vandalised with anti-Jewish stickers. The NSWaffen Police stood back and did nothing.
Who here reckons the NSWaffen Police would allow a banner in front of a mosque with the words “Am Yisrael Chai”? I reckon the NSWaffen would not stand back and do nothing.
Oh but that’s right, Cassie of Sydney, they’re just letting off steam.
I thought Kenny was good on Outsiders: he called the old corpse’s statement about the assassination attempt as disgusting and even inciteful. He said it has been the demorat’s demonisation of Trump which has led to this and the old pervert was the main culprit in spewing lying filth about Trump.
Speaking of Nazis, I see our resident Nazi is here defecating the site.
.223 ARG suppressed is my guess. You can buy subsonic rounds in .223. Another low sound round is a .300 AAC Blackout in subsonic, quiet and brutally lethal at that range.
The spectator who was shot suffered a catastrophic head wound which points to a centre fire.
They’re already talking about…Backlash!
I’m weary of the glib, childish, offhand reactions to this terrible event. A major news story treated as a joke because…Trump.
What the hell is wrong with people?
Trump just proved that he’s a pure warrior after his heinous assassination attempt
m0nty
July 14, 2024 6:12 pm
You cannot be serious, taking the p,,s for sure but in a bad taste.
What about the dead and the other two in serious trouble, never mind Trump, just a graze and you are worried about the inconvenience of the parents of this scum.
Trump campaign launches fundraiser for Pennsylvania rally shooting victims
m0nty
July 14, 2024 6:12 pm
Excuse me while I pretend to give a f-ck.
They’re just lucky conservatives don’t behave like you lot, otherwise they’d be facing a lifetime of slashed tyres, spittle and bricks through their windows.
Monty hasn’t worked out that his arrogance and high handed bullcrap is exactly why ordinary people are totally fed up with the lying left.
Today has been very revealing.
A perfect advertisement for the let them eat cake stratum.
Yeah nah.
IF the shooter was 20, then he is an adult.
IF he’s living at home at 20 instead of taking a bit of responsibility, then he’s making his own decisions.
“Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents”
Nah…Nah….Nah. I have zero sympathy for the shooter’s parents. HIs parents should be ashamed.
Farmer Gez
July 14, 2024 5:39 pm
I’m sure I saw an interview with a witness (the ranga!?) who said that they [ss] blew his head off. As though he witnessed that happening.
I’d link if I could remember where I saw it, sorry. Anyone else see it?
How about sparing a thought for Prez Trump- some deadshit just tried to kill him.
So the POTUS race is now at parity;
it’s a contest between 2 almost-dead guys. 😀
But no spare thoughts for the people who copped a bullet from this far-left loon, one of whom died?
Yeah, I know.
The poor cop who took the scumbag out will be filling out paperwork for a week.
Won’t get to see his folks for ages.
another join-the-dots by munty ?
don’t tell me… it’s a hand-bag
I have a confession to make, I am now seriously in love/lust with Prez Trump. If he could only be a polygamist, I’d marry him. The way, when he was lifted up by the secret service, his face bloodied, in shock after the bullet scraped his ear, he then punched his arm into the air.
What a man! The epitome of marvellous masculinity. It was this same spirit that fought on the beaches of Normandy, that fought in the Civil War, that fought in the Revolutionary Wars. He really is exactly like a character from a John Ford western. A true son of America, a true defender of freedom, a true hero, a man for the ages.
one hell of a guy
Oh dear, Joe Hildebrand erupting in verbal diarrhoea on Sky. Words are just tumbling out of him and most of the detritus is wrong.
Like the Feds who interrupt people who pray for the unborn souls in front of abortion clinics?
Farketh me sideways. I’ve heard it all.
But, but … registered Republican.
But, but … had strange t-shirt on.
Listen m0nster, I know this has thrown you off.
That something the Biden Crime Syndicate has been dog-whistling for has been tried (but failed).
Take a deep breath, go back to the basement, sort through the talking points and come back with something half decent.
Funny thing I discovered today. I can access Blazingcatfur through Starlink but try with my mobile phone zip, “not secure” apparently.
Wonder how many other “far right/misinformation” shadow banned websites I’ll be able to see now.
LOL we’ve had Starlink for a while and I hadn’t noticed.
I imagine the shooter’s (murderer’s) parents thing is a demonrat talking point. Despicable and lame.
Whenever I have seen Donald Trump stand up to the whatever filth is thrown his way, particularly today’s bloody contretemps, it brings to mind one of my favourite scenes from a television series.
Here’s a hint;
Watch
Wallet
Gun
Right foot
Left foot
God I love guns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WTgq0w_hKs
spare a a thought
for Trump who’s had to live with the threat of this every day for a decade
the grim determination on the bloke’s face after being winged today says it all
m0nty
July 14, 2024 6:12 pm
No.
Look at the piece of maladjusted shit they raised.
Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 7:08 pm
I think today’s events and Trump’s response have made the Dimocrats – Pelosi, Schumer, the Biden Syndicate, Occasional Car Sex … all of them – look like very small and insignificant people indeed.
I mean, really?
Running tawdry gotcha court cases based on the spurious claims of a worn out hooker?
Come on, man.
Here’s another one while I’m on a roll.
How to deal with the Chinese trying to take over your firm. 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fCHAGbPv54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfc7l1vz2jU
Another Denny Crane moment!
From the video here, President Trump moves his head as the trigger is pulled, just an inch or two to the left, and converts a lethal shot into a clip of his ear.
Fortunate indeed.
I’m having an awful lot of my FB posts disappear today…
Put him in prison now, you devious scum.
I dare ya.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/07/antoinette-lattoufs-modest-offer-to-taxpayers.html
theres the answer
Danica and James asking the real question: how the fuk did the bastard get into position in a space readily identifiable as a perfect sniper location and then get off 5 shots before getting his dumb fuking head blown off by SS snipers who had him in their sights well before he started shooting. That is, biden and the rest of kunts have set this up.
And how lucky was Trump. The photo shows that if he had not been looking in the direction of the shooter and facing forward the bullet which skimmed his ear would have gone through the centre of his head.
flyingduk
July 14, 2024 7:07 pm
Depends on the range (and in this case the microphone effects)… a suppressed 223 at 150m would not be particularly loud.
Just my $0.02..
The Trump rally microphone/s picked up remarkably quiet, dry cracks, no boom whatsoever. Maybe that was simply artifact from poor equipment.
AFAIK, suppressors only reduce sound blast by 10-15dB, from 110+ dBs for any reasonable ammo, so the neighbours will still call the cops.. even if some blocks away.
After all, ear protection at the range isn’t for cosmetic effect.
One might get lucky with subsonic .22s.. just.. on a noisy day, but suppressed standard or high velocity .22s can still wake the dead, as would stock-standard .223s.
Can’t comment on subsonic .223s, but the powder load is higher than for any rimfire, so one would expect a significant boom, not the wimpy cracks at the Trump rally.
It’s all very puzzling.