Open Thread – Weekend 13 July 2024


Lunch on the Grass, Claude Monet, 1866

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Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 12:11 pm

An excellent article on the Teddy Roosevelt assassination attempt.

https://www.history.com/news/shot-in-the-chest-100-years-ago-teddy-roosevelt-kept-on-talking

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 12:12 pm

the left has always been evil wrapped up in fake compassion

Joseph Stalin was so worried and concerned about food security he killed around 20 million Russians in effort to “fix” the problem.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 12:13 pm

From the usual suspects:

Trump Indicted For Inciting Assassination Attempt (13 Jul)

U.S. — Former President has been indicted by a federal judge in Pennsylvania for inciting an assassination attempt that nearly killed him.

“Trump is clearly at fault for someone attempting to murder him with a rifle,” said Judge Paul Stephenson. “He brought this on himself, and we will ensure justice is done.”

According to sources, the motion to indict Trump was filed roughly thirty seconds after the failed assassination attempt. “It was obvious by that point that Trump had caused a man to fire several bullets at him,” said District Attorney Jan Marsh. “If Trump were not literally Hitler, no one would have tried to kill him in the first place. It’s time we in the legal system go after Hitler and not the people trying to murder Hitler.”

At publishing time, Trump had been indicted again for Secret Service shooting the would-be assassin.

They’re quick.

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 12:21 pm

This is a joke, right???

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 12:26 pm
Reply to  Vicki

You should check where links go to Vicki! 😀

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:18 pm

Sure that is Babylon Bee.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 14, 2024 12:15 pm

This overhead from the SMH, starkly illustrating the respective position of Trump, the marksman & the obstacles (haha) in between.

(red cross by me, as SMH had the marksman in the wrong position)

Marksman-position
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 12:15 pm

Perfidious Albino
 July 14, 2024 11:59 am

Former former President black jesus a little too quick out of the blocks with a statement for mine.

Statement released between the first and second shots?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 14, 2024 12:18 pm

The White House has announced that Joe Biden will soon deliver remarks, following a shooting at Donald Trump’s rally

Pity the poor interns at the WH now having to quickly write a new speech since the planned one is not applicable.

Zatara
Zatara
July 14, 2024 12:19 pm
Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 12:20 pm

Oh God! I nearly peed myself!
Channel TEN did not bother airing news of the attempted assassination on Donald Trump for over an hour.
They kept on with the cooking programs for the time slot.
No longer circling the drain, fully flushed after this outrage.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13632165/Channel-10-Donald-Trump-shot-rally.html

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:20 pm
Reply to  Pogria

There will be no effect on ratings at all. Nobody who is interested in news is watching Ten.

JC
JC
July 14, 2024 12:22 pm

Bill Ackman and Musk endorse Trump today,

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 12:23 pm

miltonf at 12:01

Scotch has foisted some real horrors onto this city- again I ask, what is it about snotty nosed skools and leftists?

McCallum is the worst.
Tries to project the “voice of reason” persona, whilst cheering on the violence out of the other corner of his mouth.
Whether it be anti-Semite Pally protesters, pot-shots at Trump or union standover men, the routine doesn’t change:-
1. Of course, we condemn violence in any form;
2. But …
3. It’s “a complicated situation requiring a nuanced response”;
4. Legitimate grievances;
5. Trump/Jews/LNP/Bosses should be careful about “inflaming tensions” and “stoking communidy divisions”.

Last edited 6 months ago by Sancho Panzer
Miltonf
Miltonf
July 14, 2024 12:30 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

I used to listen the Tom Eliot coming home in the arvo after work but after his pathetic take of the 2020 election theft I even gave up on him.

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 12:27 pm

It turns out that the DEI appointment (by Mayorkis) for the SS director is a woman whose previous job was security head of Pepsi Co.

Her main claim to fame was developing and implementing new risk assessment and such, cyber type security and facility security.

The stinking rot, right at the top.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 14, 2024 12:27 pm

Secret Service (a US govt agency) states:
1 x audience member killed.
2 x audience members in ‘critical’ condition.
1 x former President “earmarked like livestock”.

Plus: one carcass on a rooftop, starting to go off in the summer heat.

mizaris
mizaris
July 14, 2024 6:46 pm

And a small, female SS “covering” Trump at the front, with his head fully exposed.
Fucking useless dei.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 12:29 pm

This morning I have watched the attempted assassination of President Trump with my elderly mother. She’s now a grieving widow and very fragile, and she cries a lot. Watching the television, when Trump when down on the podium, she started sobbing but when, encased by secret service men and women, he was held up and he then raised his fist into the air, Mum cried out……

Go Trump!

God Bless Donald Trump. God Bless America.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
July 14, 2024 12:35 pm

And God Bless your dear Mum, Cassie !

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 12:38 pm

Condolences on Step-Dad Cassie.
And, add my own to hzhousewife, God Bless your Mum.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 12:43 pm

For all those saying: The West is over, we can’t win, just look after yourself in the decline.
This man Trump who has had everything to lose, who has willingly made himself a target of these vicious ideological animals and their feral soldiers, who has more to lose than any of us: on the day that he came within an inch of assassination how can we not also vow to fight our best fight for our nations futures?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 2:23 pm
Reply to  Arky.

Yep. I’m in a fighting mood too, Arky.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 1:47 pm

Personally, I’d have like a raised middle finger and a “Fark You”, but that’s just me.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 12:34 pm

Sancho Panzer
 July 14, 2024 10:37 am

Thank you Your rebuttal to the Nazi nails it.

bons
bons
July 14, 2024 12:40 pm

KJP has announced that the young ANTIFA lad is reported as being unavailable to attend his planned White House reception.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 2:24 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

I think the gunman aimed directly between the eyes. Missed by inches.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 14, 2024 12:46 pm

You’d have to cross quite a few state lines to get from Arkansas to Butler Pennsylvania.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 12:53 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

The Left will be diligently investigating how the perp got his AR-15.

Any time now. Surely.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 14, 2024 12:48 pm

About now, the housemates, employer, close associates etc of the extinguished rooftop antifa would be having their lives & premises turned upside down.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 2:25 pm

One hopes. Disinterested Secret Service about the rooftop rifleman gives pause to thought about this though.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 14, 2024 12:48 pm

This may be a case of God looking after fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.
If you were religious you might think that The Lord has sent his Paladin to rescue the United States from evil and he has sent us a sign.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 12:56 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

Monty can be Gollum in this epic tale.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 1:49 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

I’m not a religious man, Eyrie, but the Gods were certainly with us today.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 14, 2024 1:01 pm
Reply to  Pogria

They are beneath contempt and the mediocrities here are carbon copies of them. Kenny and McCallum are the standouts this morning imo.

Last edited 6 months ago by Miltonf
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 12:52 pm

I think JC’s anecdotal evidence of his daughter (who I got the impression was largely apolitical) now deciding she is voting for Trump will be repeated x millions across the US today.
And I suspect that, come Monday morning, the usual far-left nutters who are used to shooting (ahem) their mouth off in the workplace might find that their long-suffering and reserved colleagues calling their bullshit out.

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 12:55 pm

Someone on the internet just reminded us of the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan ……..RR won the next election by a landslide……

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2024 1:04 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Ronnie Raygun … missed me

Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 12:57 pm

alleged shooter

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Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 1:06 pm
Reply to  Zippster

.uncensored

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Arky.
July 14, 2024 12:59 pm

125 metre? Head shot? Hit target.
Has some training, I think.
Be interesting to find out who exactly the filthy animal was.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 14, 2024 6:41 pm
Reply to  Arky.

125m, prone, with a fast flat round like a 223 should be a toddler…. elevation was perfect , windage slightly off (but didn’t look windy) … assuming rifle was properly zeroed… either pulled the shot or Trump moved

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 12:59 pm

FOX News is going full on asking why the hell wasn’t the building used by the shooter, covered by security. Keep it up until brains start to bleed.

Bad part though, the FBI will be conducting the investigation into the security lapse.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 1:00 pm

Pogria
 July 14, 2024 12:49 pm

Great tweet by Ashley St Clair. The US media is F**ked.

Note the equivalence.
Biden can’t manage stairs.
So we report it as “Trump fell over.”

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 1:02 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 1:22 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Yeah, except the Dems and deep staters are going to be even more terrified after this. Terrified men do not tend to think level-headedly.

Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 1:04 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
July 14, 2024 1:09 pm

Waking up in Europe to this, Go Trump go!

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 14, 2024 1:11 pm

The meja are like a smoldering rubbish heap.

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2024 2:09 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

a festering chancre

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2024 1:11 pm

FOX News is going full on asking why the hell wasn’t the building used by the shooter, covered by security

There are two options here.

One, manage the risk. DJT – remembering he’s a former rather than current POTUS, so his detail will be substantial but nowhere near Biden’s – speaks at big, public-space rallies to tens of thousands of punters every second day, all around the country for months at a time.

It simply wouldn’t be possible to have every single building ‘covered by security’ within 2000m of the podium – 2000m being the outside range of elite snipers.

Plus, a rooftop is one of the last places they’d ‘cover’. Ideally you’d want to position yourself inside a room, far enough back to hide muzzle flash and with a direct line of sight to target and also with a backdrop to camouflage you.

Two, put DJT in a Popemobile – which opens the door for morons to call him a coward.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 14, 2024 6:51 pm

It simply wouldn’t be possible to have every single building ‘covered by security’ within 2000m of the podium – 2000m being the outside range of elite snipers

I regularly target shoot out to 1600m. Due to the vagaries of wind, and the need for precise ranging, any first shot head sized hit becomes increasingly difficult beyond about 500m, and indeed, typical police sniper ranges are around 100-200m. Securing all possible shooter spots out to 500m would have been easy at this fairly open venue, let alone a ring 1/2 that size.

Like the Israeli border breach, something is very smelly about this security ‘lapse’.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 1:11 pm

I wonder if the FBI/Homeland Security have the balls to not declare Antifa a Terrorist organisation?

Arky.
July 14, 2024 1:15 pm

I’ve seen enough.
Trained assassin stooge put in place by a state actor.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 1:18 pm
Reply to  Arky.

Whatever “facts” we are subsequently served up about this scumbag will invite more questions than answers.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 2:06 pm
Reply to  Arky.

It’s not what we’ll be told, but it’s the most likely answer.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2024 1:15 pm

I am astounded that the usual suspects have yet to come out with the trifecta pro forma in relation to the Antifa shooter:

1 – Lone wolf.
2 – Mental health.
3 – Motivation unclear.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 3:15 pm

The FBI guy in the presser actually said the lone wolf thing, but they haven’t yet ruled out he had help.

In other words you are totally correct, by tomorrow he’ll be a motivationally unclear lone wolf with a mental illness.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2024 1:17 pm

It was planned.

@catturd2

Oh really?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 1:19 pm

Vicki
 July 14, 2024 12:55 pm

Someone on the internet just reminded us of the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan ……..RR won the next election by a landslide……

That was different.
Very different.
John Hinckley was a truly mentally deranged loon who picked a high-profile target in the hope of impressing Hollywood actress Jodie Foster.
Not suggesting the shooter here wasn’t a loon, and the act wouldn’t impress a few in Hollywood.
But I think it is likely we will find that the shooter here believed he was saving the country by assassinating “literally Hitler”.
And we will probably find he was an avid consumer of rabid far-left media (MSNBC, NYT, CNN etc).

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 1:41 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

The effect will be the same or stronger for DJT. This assassin was a rabid leftist. A politically motivated assassination attempt. Hinckley was just a loony.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2024 1:19 pm

In the witness interview posted earlier he said that he was trying to warn the police and SS before it happened and they did nothing.

@elonmusk

Extreme incompetence or it was deliberate. Either way, the SS leadership must resign.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 2:13 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Perhaps she can go back to her job at Pepsi.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 14, 2024 10:33 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Once (Kennedy 1) is happenstance, Twice (Kennedy 2) is coincidence, Thrice (Trump) is enemy action.

If I were Trump I would fire the Secret Service and get some reliable security – perhaps Gavin de Becker if he can stretch that far as his organisation already covers RFKJ.

In any even, getting fired by Trump would be a devastating blow the the SS, and they need it.

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
July 14, 2024 1:19 pm

President Biden:-

“Dr Jill and I would like to send ourlove and prayers to former Vice President Grover Cleveland after his shooting by Jodie Foster.”

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:31 pm
Reply to  Titus Groates

The jokes just writes themselves.

Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 1:21 pm

Another eye witness says that he told law officers there was a man on the roof climbing between multiple rooftops and they did absolutely nothing to stop him until it was too late! WTF!
We need an investigation into the Trump assassination attempt immediately!

“I saw a guy on top of one of the buildings, go in between one building to the next, and went and told the officer that he was up there. And when I went back to my spot I heard that people could still see the person from where they were standing so I checked that out, and I went and went back to tell the officer that if he came over there he could see them. And when I turned my back it’s when the shots when the shots started and it was it took me a second or two to figure out exactly what it was. And then it was just getting out of there…and helping some other person out with her child and we got out And that was that was the end of that And I went and left and that was all….So this man was able to basically…climb to the next building…and you told law enforcement, Hey there’s a guy over there. Correct I don’t know how he got up there I don’t know any of that but I definitely saw him up there And, sir, And that was…that was all.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 1:31 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Given he was hit in the right ear from behind I suspect that photo is indeed of the bullet that grazed him.

So it wasn’t “following an attempted asassination” it was literally a split second before the attempted assassination.

On the physics roughly 0.0001 seconds before, since AR-15 rounds go at about 800 m/s.

Bruce in WA
July 14, 2024 1:52 pm

Sorry, but I think he was hit from the front to the back; the shooter was to his right according to the aerials I have seen. To be hit from behind would have required him to be looking over his left shoulder.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 2:16 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Indolent, it shows a light coloured smear about a foot long.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2024 1:23 pm

@thecjpearson

JUST A WEEK AGO, @harryjsisson called for the assassination of President Trump.

Today, the President was shot by a radical leftist.

Liberals like Harry and others should be immediately investigated by the Secret Service for their incitement of violence against the President.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2024 1:26 pm

OMG this one I can see!

@MAGAGEM1

Did he take one in the vest?

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 14, 2024 1:30 pm
Reply to  Indolent

No. That’s the shadow under a fold in the lapel of the SS agent in front of him.
That is clearer if you view an uncropped version, i.e. from further back.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2024 1:49 pm

I’m sure you’re right. On second thought, it’s not possible because even if it didn’t seriously hurt him it would have knocked him over, which didn’t happen.

Bruce in WA
July 14, 2024 1:54 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Looks more like a ventilation hole to me with reinforced stitching around it.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 14, 2024 1:28 pm

FMD monty is coping well with what is the biggest news story since 9/11.

JC
JC
July 14, 2024 1:29 pm

He shouldn’t have taken the call.

WASHINGTON — President Biden spoke with former President Donald Trump on Saturday night after the ex-president survived an assassination attempt at a Pennsylvania rally.

Biden, 81, said earlier Saturday that he tried to call the 78-year-old Republican presidential candidate while he was being treated at a Pittsburgh-area hospital.

Joe Biden spoke with Trump Saturday night after the assassination attempt against the former president.

Trump was rushed off the stage after the shooting. AP“This evening, President Biden spoke to former President Trump,” a White House official said. “The President also spoke to Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro and Butler Mayor Bob Dandoy.”

The call happened shortly before Biden cut short a weekend stay at his Delaware beach home to return to the White House.

Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 3:32 pm
Reply to  JC

“twasnt me that ordered the hit”

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 1:29 pm

re-watching the footage, I applaud Donald’s command to “let me get my shoes”.
The wits of this man. Yes, he has been a showman for decades and has always been able to zero in on the perfect sound bite, but THIS, this situation would have had many of us filling our shoes if we had still been in them.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2024 1:31 pm

Footage on Skah of Biden ascending the stairs onto Air Force One.

Comfortable shoes.

No socks.

Gay.

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 1:38 pm

That was different.

Very different.

The effect will be similar- possibly even much stronger for DJT. This would be assassin is clearly rabidly opposed to Trump. Biden knows this is severely damaging too – that’s why his campaign has jerked all campaign ads in an effort at damage control.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 14, 2024 1:39 pm

re: Orange Man Mad.

After the SS were onto him and they are wanting him to move, but before he does the fist pump…
Why on earth did he say “let me get my shoes” to the SS?
Must be some expensive shoes.

RSBN’s broadcast did not have a closeup at the time of the shots and cut audio soon after unfortunately.
Ch7 are playing the clip of the SS snipers who reacted so fast.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 2:26 pm

So he wouldn’t be seen walking out in just his socks. If he had, the awesome pic of him with his fist in the air and saying “fight!”, would have been forgotten as the media would have zeroed in on the fact he had no shoes, ad nauseum.

Remember Gillard and the missing shoe?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 14, 2024 3:04 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Remember Gillard and the missing shoe?

No. Never heard of it. Regardless, I get your point. Image.
I accept that’s more plausible than him worrying about their price.

Possibly also he didn’t want to try to run anywhere barefoot.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 6:47 pm

Shoes represent his desire to return to normal order. Such things often happen as a reaction to shock. He’s 78 and injured, and you can see by the way he leans on security as he departs that he’s in considerable shock. Not surprising.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 1:44 pm

Dunno if I have the timezone right but this looks to be just about to start.

A press conference has been scheduled for 11:45 PM at the Butler Township Police Department . Conference will include State Police Lt. Col. Bivens , members of the FBI and Secret services

https://x.com/PSPTroopDPIO/status/1812325678185840647

(Not a link to the press conference, but it’ll be online somewhere.)

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 1:54 pm

This shot has effectively completed the polarisation of the US.

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
July 14, 2024 2:33 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Correct, Winston.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 1:55 pm
Rosie
Rosie
July 14, 2024 1:58 pm

I love all the ‘it was planned!’ announcements by thought leaders.
There I was thinking it was an accidental assassination attempt.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 2:20 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Have some more jabs dickhead.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 2:24 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Very droll, rosie.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 2:34 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Unbelievable that you are so farking petty as to use this to take a snipe with that retarded nickname on this day.
Take a freaking look at yourself.

Last edited 6 months ago by Arky
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 2:02 pm

Gunman reportedly a 20-year-old man from Pennsylvania
Ellie Dudley
The gunman who shot Donald Trump in the middle of a Republican rally was reportedly 20 year old Pennsylvania man, Thomas Matthew Crooks.

The NY Post has identified Crooks as the gunman who fired multiple shots at the former US President, one of which grazed his ear.

Sources said Crooks was planted on a roof about 275m from the stage at Butler Farm Show grounds.
Crooks was killed by US Secret Service snipers within minutes of the attempted assassination.

An earlier statement from the Secret Service noted agents had “neutralised the shooter, who is now deceased.”

“US Secret Service quickly responded with protective measures and former President Trump is safe. One spectator was killed, and two spectators were critically injured,” the statement read.

“This incident is currently under investigation. and the Secret Service has notified the FBI.”

275 meters? This bloke must have fancied himself as a shot.

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 2:15 pm

275 meters? This bloke must have fancied himself as a shot.

20 year olds have a tendency to do that. Don’t know much about the gun & the sights at this stage, I think.

Bruce in WA
July 14, 2024 5:55 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Latest definitive info seems to have it at anywhere from 125 to 135 metres. Even my old Savage 10fp in .223 will put them inside a 2″ circle at that range.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 2:04 pm

Joe Biden is cognitively fine.

A cock in a frock is a woman.

Political violence comes from the right.

The slogan ‘from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’ is not a cry for genocide against the Jews.

Hamas didn’t rape or murder anyone on 7 October 2023.

Hamas are freedom fighters.

Ya get it, folks? They don’t even try and hide their lies and gaslighting anymore.

Last edited 6 months ago by Cassie of Sydney
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 2:05 pm

They’re not prepared to formally ID the shooter yet. He had no identification on him. Thinks his name can be released in “a few hours”. Doing DNA checks. FBI guy says they had no forewarning.

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:40 pm

FBI guy says they had no forewarning.

D’uh!

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 2:40 pm

I’ll assume the FBI is lying.
I’ll bet he was “Known To Police.”
That’s the mantra, is it not?

Last edited 6 months ago by BobtheBoozer
Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 14, 2024 2:09 pm

Locking up your political opponent, assorted charges to use if one doesn’t work, and if all else fails, assassination.
USA.
Pakistan.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 2:10 pm

FBI guy says the other casualties were due to the perp. Police chief says two critically wounded one killed. Not able to release names as notifying family.

Says the firing by the shooter was “somewhat scattered”. Sounds odd. Was he that bad a shot?

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 2:10 pm

They’re not prepared to formally ID the shooter yet. He had no identification on him. 

Yet it was stated at the presser that he was a 20 year male.

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:41 pm
Reply to  Vicki

They know who he is, they just don’t want people to start connecting him to his handlers.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
July 14, 2024 2:11 pm

The Left are mad.

SWMBO reports that at her Kooyong tennis group this morning, one of the members – a highly educated and lovely woman in her early 70s, married to one of the brightest blokes I know, who has both authored a book on ancient Greek commerce and was in large part responsible for the reconstruction of the AFL in the 90s, which pretty much saved it from oblivion – said “pity it wasn’t a couple of inches to the right”.

SWMBO held her tongue (there is a first for everything!) but my engagement with her when next we dine (which is semi-regularly) on just when cold blooded murder because you don’t like someone is justified should provide a lively philosophical discourse.

Her thoughts on the poor bloke who had his brains blown out for the heinous crime of being in the audience of a political rally, or of the two others still in critical condition, will also be enlightening.

I think I’ll only order entree.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 2:13 pm

I’m live blogging the press conference Vicki. It’s underway right now at the YT link just upthread.

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2024 2:13 pm
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 2:55 pm
Reply to  Indolent

https://x.com/senronjohnson/status/1811580936137380111?t=0tDC6JRIDIcWKNmcglBQLw

“I truly appreciated Dr. Redfield’s honesty at the hearing today.”

Essentially: “We lied to people about the side effects because they otherwise wouldn’t have agreed to the injections.”
So where’s our apology for our loss as free citizens? For the verbal abuse “Granny Killers”?

Last edited 6 months ago by BobtheBoozer
Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
July 14, 2024 4:35 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Trials and executions.

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 2:16 pm

FBI guy says they had no forewarning.

4 years of DoJ lawfare, daily MSM vilification, WH vindictiveness and finally alerts from patrons at the rally didn’t twig you to impending severe risk? Pull the other one, dickhead.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 14, 2024 2:17 pm

The US media is F**ked.
Ours leave a lot to be desired too.
It’s a small step from where the ABC is to where the lying, cheating, complicit and now discredited US MSM is.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 2:31 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Bung,
our media are atrocious but, they are Romper Room compared to the US.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 2:32 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

HAW! Good one. 😀

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 2:57 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

He wanted to go back for his hat?
🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 2:18 pm

Plus, a rooftop is one of the last places they’d ‘cover’. Ideally you’d want to position yourself inside a room, far enough back to hide muzzle flash and with a direct line of sight to target and also with a backdrop to camouflage you.

But rooftops seemed to be the only likely spot where someone could get the elevation for a clear line of sight.
Given there were no Book Suppository buildings in the vicinity, they would be the next most likely spot. He didn’t seem to be wearing tin roof camouflage and would be easy to spot.
So why wasn’t he?
Trump (and the entire Republican Party) should be insisting that he be given exactly the same security as Biden.
And, if they jib, call them enablers of political violence (which they are).

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
July 14, 2024 2:19 pm

Indolent, can we count on you to tally up the flood of inconvenient news which will be released in the shadow of the story of the century?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 2:20 pm

Gunman identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks, according to reports
Daily Mail.

Now, he was on a roof 130 yards away.

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2024 2:27 pm

if I got the location correct in Google maps then it measures about 130 meters

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 6:32 pm

That’s what Hairy told me he had worked out.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 3:10 pm

Newscorpse saying 125m so sounds right.

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 2:23 pm

@RepThomasMassie
·
58m

The same bureau that investigated the Las Vegas shooting and the January 6th pipe bombs is now investigating the attempted assassination of Trump.

This is also the same bureau that raided Mar-a-Lago.

I’m sure they’ll get to the bottom of this soon.

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:46 pm
Reply to  Makka

There has to be a flood of this type of ridicule. FBI is no longer fit for purpose and if enough people despise them they will be disbanded.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 2:24 pm

FBI guy says definitively that “no” Trump’s team did not request additional security.

Liar.

Press con now over. It’ll be on YT pretty soon I assume.

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:47 pm

Probably not from them. Who in their right mind would?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 2:28 pm

Says the firing by the shooter was “somewhat scattered”. Sounds odd. Was he that bad a shot?

No.
When Orange Man dropped below the podium it is likely the far-left loon just decided to unleash on the crowd.

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:48 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

That’s what it looked and sounded like. The shots were heard after Trump went down.

Last edited 6 months ago by Crossie
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 3:13 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Then got a third eye for his troubles.

Good riddance to the trash and I already pity the next person I come across spouting ANTIFA crap.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 2:29 pm

Historically, what Biden did was say “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”
He owns it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 2:30 pm

The live coverage YT has still been going, now with Fox talking heads. Doing a pretty good job of summarising.

I’m amused that they’ve chosen the worst possible photo of Trump for their graphics. He looks about 110 years old in them. Typical Fox.

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 2:32 pm

Trump would be safer hiring his own private security, rather than relying on the USG snakes to have his back.

As dover mentioned, why TF were not a couple of cheap drones deployed to surveil rooftops around about the venue? That dude had to climb up (I saw an elevated unverified pic of a ladder leaning against the building), get into position, set up for the shot and wait for Trump. Time enough to easily spot a sniper in the open on a roof.

Sundance : “There are Trillions at stake”.

Last edited 6 months ago by Makka
Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 2:44 pm
Reply to  Makka

Makka,
if you watch the footage of the Police sniper who eventually shot him, he had been under surveillance.
Unless he had been out of sight whilst lying low, and was only spotted when he popped up to unload a few rounds. It takes time to line up the shot. He HAD to have been seen.
“Let’s see how this plays out, eh”.

And yes, it was a Police sniper. I saw earlier footage taken from a slightly different angle and the sharpshooter is wearing a vest clearly marked “POLICE”.

Makka,
the last sentence wasn’t for you. 😀

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 2:58 pm
Reply to  Pogria

 It takes time to line up the shot. He HAD to have been seen.

“Let’s see how this plays out, eh”.

Of course. So why not fire a warning shot at him, get an interdiction team there immediately, delay Trump getting on stage or removing him immediately – any number of options to foil the shooter after spotting him on a roof with a rifle directed at the Presidential front runner.

That shooter should have been taken out the second he was spotted in that location with a rifle. But he wasn’t. That needs to be fully investigated.

m0nty
m0nty
July 14, 2024 2:38 pm

Crooks is a registered Republican, allegedly.

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 2:40 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Meaningless.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 14, 2024 2:43 pm
Reply to  m0nty

And you are a registered dope.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 14, 2024 4:41 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Yep.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 2:45 pm
Reply to  m0nty

fap, fap, fap.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 2:47 pm
Reply to  m0nty

A long haired weedy male 20 year old Republican in Pennsylvania is quite rare. Extinct now, so no need to go on the endangered species list.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 2:38 pm

Struth put up a great pic at the furniture store. yeah, yeah, so what, it’s a great pic.

comment image

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 3:03 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Poor pussy cat. It looks like he’s lost an eye as well.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 5:55 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

He looks like a young fella with not a lot of mane growth.
Trump’s an old fella and harder to wing,

Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 2:39 pm

Body Language: Trump Assassination Attempt

note the bullet hole in his jacket

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 2:41 pm

Hairy corrects me that the shooter wasn’t aiming directly between Trump’s eye but at the back part of his his head, his brain, and Trump’s head turn to the right was what saved him. Hairy’s done all the specs on the angles etc so I believe him. He also thinks the shooter would have to have had some very good sniper training in order to take that shoot. Not just your ordinary antifa thug, he opines.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 2:51 pm

From only 100 m with an AR-15 it’d be dead easy. Especially if he had a scope. But even without a scope it’d be easy.

Lee Harvey Oswald had a very similar shot with iron sights. He didn’t miss – and with Kennedy in a moving car.

Last edited 6 months ago by Bruce of Newcastle
132andBush
132andBush
July 14, 2024 3:42 pm

Not really, Lizzie.
130m with that calibre (assuming 223) is no big deal for someone who can shoot moderately well.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 3:52 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Second that one – not a particularly difficult shot.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 5:53 pm

Well, I’m just glad he missed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 5:52 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Good to have the expertise here to correct us both, then, Bushie.
Hairy’s not a gun expert although he loved the shooting range we went to in Louisiana with my cousin.

132andBush
132andBush
July 14, 2024 7:14 pm

No worries, Lizzie.
What times!?

Hope you are both well.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 14, 2024 2:42 pm

It was, I think, a good thing for Trump to take Biden’s call. If he had not it might have been read by some people as a pointed accusation of complicity on the part of the White House and inflamed tempers further, particularly in the context of the ongoing escalating tricks to keep Trump from contesting the next election. And, frankly, all the snippets and fragments of information we have now will have a half-life measured in days. In a few days half of the stuff being sprayed about on news reports, blogs, and X, will be discovered to be inaccurate and replaced with details not even examined yet.

By taking the call (which will itself have no human value in itself because Biden is scarcely human and his staff not at all) Trump is signalling to remain civil and not to do anything precipitate.

To be honest I really would not put government complicity beyond the bounds of possibility but you really want to be sure before saying so because establishing a precedent of just leaping to conclusions based upon worst expectations of an opponent will not serve America well.

And it is going to be Trump’s and the ordinary folk he represents’ America after all.

Last edited 6 months ago by Mother Lode
Rosie
Rosie
July 14, 2024 2:45 pm

Just to make an unplanned comment.
You know what? My comment about thought leaders wasn’t directed at anyone here. It’s a well known expression which even had it’s own Wikipedia entry that perfectly described the wankers on twitter I was referring to.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 2:49 pm
Reply to  Rosie

My comment about thought leaders

..
Bullshit.
I don’t believe you.

Last edited 6 months ago by Arky
Arky.
July 14, 2024 2:50 pm
Reply to  Arky.

And what a little punk you are to do it in such an underhand passive aggressive way so you can deny it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 5:48 pm
Reply to  Rosie

I don’t think it was against you, Arky.

I made a comment using ‘you lot’ re the top Cat performers. I didn’t mean it nastily but approvingly and as I said, M0nty doesn’t own it. It can be a friendly idiom. Noone owns idioms.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
July 14, 2024 2:46 pm

Deploy the TPPA (Trump Personal Protection Apparatus)

Rosie
Rosie
July 14, 2024 2:51 pm

The wrong guy?
Yes no way with jawline it’s the same person.
NYP needs to delete its article.
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1812348689140400578?t=XXW9Y8HFs34jODaXiHXoAw&s=19

Last edited 6 months ago by Rosie
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 2:54 pm
Reply to  Rosie

“My name is Thomas Matthew Crooks, I hate republicans, I hate Trump…..”

Monty says he’s a registered Republican.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 5:46 pm
Reply to  Rosie

It’s gorn now. 5.46pm

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:53 pm

Has Trump recently made a joke about having some incriminating info on Hillary Clinton?

Indolent
Indolent
July 14, 2024 2:54 pm
Last edited 6 months ago by Indolent
m0nty
m0nty
July 14, 2024 2:56 pm

As usual, hot takes on the shooter’s identity are flying thick and fast without much verification. Seeing something about a Matthew Yearick as well.

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 2:57 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Surely not poor Yorick?

Rosie
Rosie
July 14, 2024 2:58 pm

“It was planned.

@catturd2

Oh really?”

Arky.
July 14, 2024 3:04 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Garbage,

Arky.
July 14, 2024 3:17 pm
Reply to  Rosie

It’s no skin off my nose if you were referring to me.
Do it openly, quote what you’re talking about and own it.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 3:21 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

The sniper that took out the shooter WAS Police. You can see POLICE on his vest.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 14, 2024 3:11 pm

I applaud Donald’s command to “let me get my shoes”.

I make no claim to any sort of expertise but I get the sense that people often, immediately after abrupt traumatic events, can form an eerie ‘normal’ focus on minutiae.

That said, seconds later Trump had the wherewithal to address his audience and do the fist bump so it is quite likely he was composed the whole time.

That is going to be a great image though. If he had been fired at, ducked, and then got back up defiant it would be inspiring enough. Hollywood-esque. But he was bloodied and even he would have been uncertain how much harm he may have sustained – you don’t feel fragments in the brain.

Iconic.

Puts Biden’s stories of driving 200 wheeler trucks on Mars with Nelson Mandela at the Battle Against Kitchen Grime against Generalissimo Corn Pop in the shade.

Anders
Anders
July 14, 2024 3:14 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Apparently that’s not the shooter, just a look-a-like.

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 3:12 pm

It’s amazing that the crowd mostly stayed in their seats after the shots were fired. Although they sheltered at first, they didn’t stampede, flee etc. I reckon that would have happened in any other country – including Oz.

Maybe they are just used to mass shootings over there.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 3:23 pm

m0nty
 July 14, 2024 2:38 pm

Crooks is a registered Republican, allegedly.

When did he register?
And for what purpose?

Rosie
Rosie
July 14, 2024 3:27 pm

Except I wasn’t.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 14, 2024 3:28 pm

Might be the best/funniest tweet of the whole situation.

https://x.com/CyberPunkCortes/status/1812323949125972279

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 3:32 pm

That is beautiful!!!

Rosie
Rosie
July 14, 2024 3:29 pm

Good grief, I make a little joke about the insightfulness of twitter thought leaders and some sad sack has a spazz attack.
Get over yourself.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 4:03 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Not a believable denial.
This isn’t what a genuine attempt to right a mistake looks like.
Keep digging.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 3:35 pm

Plenty good info on Conservative Treehouse. Cops at event did nothing despite being told there was a dude climbing over roofs with a long rifle. His commentary on the SS snipers isn’t complementary. ID of the rifle used is TBC too. Some of the comments are from mil guys saying the shooter probably snatched the trigger of had his breathing wrong or elevated heartbeat for someone who is probably inexperienced but caveated if he was using an AR15.

However even Sundance stipulates more will come out about this later…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 3:35 pm

Crooks is a registered Republican, allegedly.

Laughable.
m0nster produces a non-descript screenshot with a name blanked out, a d.o.b. and a city of residence (not an address.
Something any dick could do online in 20 seconds.
And this would prove what exactly?
That it was an inside job?
That it was a disgruntled tanning products salesman?

Rosie
Rosie
July 14, 2024 3:35 pm

Incidentally, got a flu vaccination this morning, was well and truly exposed to a sufferer last week and it appears to have passed me by but doctor suggested I go ahead and get it.
So I did.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 4:09 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Who cares?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 5:37 pm
Reply to  Rosie

I had mine a while back, Rosie. No reason why not to get it.

Only mRNA vaxes get my refusal so far. And other Covids too, because injecting spike protein.

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
July 14, 2024 3:36 pm

Has Albo made a statement about the rising danger of Islamaphobia and Homophobia after the assassination attempt?

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 3:36 pm

The crazies have started.
Today’s attempt on Donald Trump’s life is being filed next to the fake moon landing.
IT WAS STAGED PEOPLE!!! bwahahahahaha

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 3:38 pm

Rosie
 July 14, 2024 2:45 pm

Just to make an unplanned comment.

You know what? My comment about thought leaders wasn’t directed at anyone here. 

Thought Leader is a commonly used expression.
Not always complimentary.
But could be almost anyone.

Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 3:38 pm
Last edited 6 months ago by Zippster
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 4:46 pm
Reply to  Zippster

I pointed it out previously but a 5’6″ woman is not going to interfere with a sighted 6’3″ head shot – as was made a second or two before. In fact by being in the way, the shorter woman prevented a taller bodyguard from disrupting the sight picture.
I suppose they could be given a Carmen Miranda hat.

Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 3:42 pm
Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 6:49 pm
Reply to  Zippster

But allegedly a registered Republican.

Tom
Tom
July 14, 2024 3:50 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Dover, that’s what responsible journalists would do. But most university-educated journalists see themselves as activists for whom journalism is a just political weapon, not a source of information.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 3:52 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Heh. Good luck with that. Biggest story in 20 years…editors will be all over their journo kiddies for something, anything. The monster has to be fed!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 3:44 pm

Conspiracy theorists claim Trump’s attempted assassination was ‘staged’ using FAKE BLOOD

Daily Mail.

MONTY!!!!!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2024 3:45 pm

I have also now heard talk that the counter-sniper teams were local police, not SS

Respectfully Doverlord, but this illustrates my point.

I have heard it said in certain circles that when a POTUS has a planned visit to, say an overseas location and with a dedicated itinerary, that the SS will deploy advance parties weeks ahead to scope out just these sorts of things.

Their resources will be finite. Trump will of course have SS details, but not nearly to the level of the current bumbler. Therefore, and given the multitude of speaking events DJT is doing across multiple states and in quick succession, if they are relying on local jacks for counter-sniper response it will be lacking compared to planned and organised SS activities.

Nobody’s going to say ‘Donald you have to scale back your speech program’, so local blokes will have to be relied on for things like counter-sniper functions.

Add in multiple communication nets forced on them by the abovementioned reliance (which may or may not explain the delays the big ranga witness pointed out – ‘he’s over there, on the roof’), and it’s probably not terrible they separated the bloke’s head from the rest of him in the time they did.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 3:48 pm

On the homefront Wallet Wizard reckons we’ll get a surplus this year. Strike me pink if it isn’t in time for an election:

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/treasurer-jim-chalmers-flags-202324-surplus-likely-to-grow-beyond-93bn-forecast-in-budget/news-story/2d69a859f1c130d278bef1b6a69e9fa8

It will be like every ALP Budget for the last 25 years all smoke and mirrors that analysts will swallow hook line & sinker. Pull the other one Jim it plays Jingle Bells.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 14, 2024 4:51 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

My wife almost wet herself at Wallet Wizard.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 5:17 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

GreyRanga I don’t own it but do use it and yes still cant control the giggle everytime I do. My kids know exactly who I am talking about as soon as I mention it as well.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 5:21 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

I think it was Calli that awarded him that moniker. haw!

Digger
Digger
July 14, 2024 3:53 pm

Trump cannot now trust the Secret Service period. The shooter was on an open roof in an elevated position about 150m away.

No way in hell he could not be seen and ever less chance he could get a shot away.

A suicide mission He knew he was going to die but the mission was worth it.

The Secret Service allowed him to get a shot away before they killed him. The plot was only foiled when he missed.

Trump can’t trust anyone again.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 5:21 pm
Reply to  Digger

Trump needs Mossad.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 4:01 pm

I have also now heard talk that the counter-sniper teams were local police, not SS

Footage shown this morning…one of the “counter-snipers” featured was clearly identified on his vest as police.

Last edited 6 months ago by Roger
lotocoti
lotocoti
July 14, 2024 4:02 pm

Crooks is a registered Republican, allegedly.

Thousands of conservatives paid five quid to the labour party so they could vote for Jezza Corbyn in the 2015 leadership election.
After that disaster, labour changed their eligibility rules.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2024 4:39 pm
Reply to  lotocoti

Shorter mUnturd response: “They were all fascists, we honest lefturds would never do such deceptive things.”

LOL, as if.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 4:05 pm

Rockdoctor,

Don’t know if you checked my reply this morning; I’ve been told Kira Korolev was in Signals Corps.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 4:27 pm
Reply to  Roger

Yup ta reply upthread.

She would from what my mate has said be in the PV vetting range to be in that trade.

Someone should be asking deep pointed questions at both AGVSA and Mike Burgess at one of the Senate hearings. She’s unlikely to be a one off and one wonders how many Chinese are currently in the same boat. Also wouldn’t be surprised that the US sent a please explain that blew the lid on her.

We’ve been so focused on non problems like garage nasties and trying not to offend Winnie the Pooh it wouldn’t surprise in the least that we dropped the ball on this one.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 4:39 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Oh and secondly from news reports apparently platoon mates a Kapooka flagged her as a possible spy. If people were suspect of her then I’d suspect the questions would have followed her to Signals training.

How wasn’t she on radars long before this?

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 4:43 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Complacency?

Naivety?

Incompetence?

Signals requires extensive security checking, including family.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 4:54 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Deliberate.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 5:12 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

A Russian agent in the AGSVA would be easy to identify after this, Bob. Just look at who worked on and who signed off on her security clearance.

billie
billie
July 14, 2024 5:15 pm
Reply to  Roger

Russian Language Linguist .. they would have grabbed her in a heartbeat to get an actual Russian native speaker in there, talk about boosting the statistics!

btw – we have many Chinese as Mandarin Linguists as well, so I have heard.

Anders
Anders
July 14, 2024 4:06 pm

As the Bondi stabbing showed – wait 24 hours for the perpetrator to become known. I suspect Thomas Crooks is in for a big pay day.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 4:06 pm

Rosie

 July 14, 2024 3:35 pm

About now comes the claim of victimhood and several white knights galloping to the things rescue.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 4:56 pm
Reply to  Arky.

Yep.
That’s the modus operandi, and I’ve called her on it several times. It’s called “Hiding behind her own skirts”.
Also known in pub circles as “Let’s you and him fight.”

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 4:06 pm

For those with a strong stomach, photo of slain assassin on Zerohedge website.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-bleeding-rushed-stage-after-shots-fired-pennsylvania-rally

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 4:09 pm

FBI Confirms Would-Be Trump Assassin as Thomas Matthew Crooks, Matches Democrat Donor Description Per FEC Data

https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/07/13/breaking-trump-shot-during-rally-secret-service-covers-45-holding-bloodied-ear

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 4:09 pm

Albo makes it about himself.

Anthony Albanese responds to ‘confronting’ Donald Trump shooting (Tele, not paywalled)

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has responded to the attempted assassination of former president Donald Trump, warning the political furore was “not unique” to the US.

Well ok he has a point. There are a fair number of excitable people who might want to assassinate him right now, mainly living in Western Sydney.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 5:18 pm

lol. Don’t tell me Albo is running scared of his own lovable muzzies.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 5:27 pm

As well he might.

As I suggested earlier today, there are bound to be personal links between the pro-Hamas crowd and ME criminals in western Sydney. Meaning it wouldn’t be that hard for someone to obtain a handgun. The lack of security for Albanese’s visit at the Greek Orthodox Church in Brisbane bespeaks a worrying complacency on the part of authorities.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 5:28 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Good.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 4:13 pm

Digger
July 14, 2024 3:53 pm

Trump cannot now trust the Secret Service period. The shooter was on an open roof in an elevated position about 150m away.

Yes.
I get what KD says in a general sense about scoping out locations and managing risk.
But this wasn’t a five mile motorcade through residential apartment buildings which is very difficult to manage.
It was a static location with only 4-5 possible elevated vantage points. The simple solution would be to secure the entry points to those locations and declare the rooftops a no-go zone. Helicopter (or even a $199.95 drone) surveillance would have ensured that protocol wasn’t breached, or at least dealt with in seconds if it was.
I think we are going to see more rallies in stadiums with controlled entry points than open fields.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 14, 2024 4:18 pm

To watch monty trying to defend an attempt on the frontrunner to the Presidency, by refusing to accept that someone from his side of politics tried this shit, is astonishing.
What a germ monty is. That’s your lot dickhead. Be silent

Bluey
Bluey
July 14, 2024 7:19 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

I’ve said it before: he just wants us dead.
He’s just not honest enough to admit it.

Gabor
Gabor
July 14, 2024 4:19 pm

Anders
July 14, 2024 4:06 pm

As the Bondi stabbing showed – wait 24 hours for the perpetrator to become known.

Yes, I watched as many links as I could manage between chores and the only claim I can categorically refute is that it was a staged event by Trump and associates.

I will wait for a few more days for the true facts to emerge, if ever?
Bit sloppy response but from the police not noticing a gunman on a roof and doing nothing or little.

If they could shoot him so easily, surely they must have noticed him.

Questions, pesky questions.

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 4:24 pm

Here is the best footage of the Penn police who were on the roof focussed on the guy with the AR who took the shots at Trump. Two guys – a spotter & a marksman. Why the hell did they wait for the shooter to fire before taking him out? Maybe the current law fare – you must wait for an assault before returning fire.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/07/13/video-of-u-s-secret-service-spotting-and-watching-shooter-prior-to-shots-doing-nothing-then-flinching-with-inbound-bullets/

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 4:30 pm

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The spotter and the marksman

132andBush
132andBush
July 14, 2024 4:53 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Two shooters.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 4:33 pm

Also wouldn’t be surprised that the US sent a please explain that blew the lid on her.

Not surprised at all.

Makka
Makka
July 14, 2024 4:33 pm

so many female SS on scene quite ridiculous really

And comical. 4 or 5 ponytail girls dressed as men , bundling DJT into the black Suburban exiting the event. This is the ultimate diversity hire fk up.

Zatara
Zatara
July 14, 2024 4:51 pm
Reply to  Makka

If you look closely it was the big blokes who formed the human wall around Trump while the females, about a third shorter than the males, stood off with their pistols.

It’s a suitability for task issue really as they can’t stop a bullet that passes a foot over their heads.

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JC
JC
July 14, 2024 4:33 pm

Why the hell did they wait for the shooter to fire before taking him out? Maybe the current law fare – you must wait for an assault before returning fire.

They may have thought he was one of them or the Secret Service.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 14, 2024 4:42 pm
Reply to  JC

They may have thought he was one of them or the Secret Service.

If they thought that then the incompetence of the logistics around security and involving different agencies is criminal.

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 4:46 pm
Reply to  JC

JC – have you enlarged the footage of the assassin? He most definitely does not look like a member of the Penn police force. And the “Secret Service” ? No. The local mob would have been informed of the enforcers at the site.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 5:09 pm
Reply to  JC

If there were multiple communication nets, quite possible they were waiting for confirmation he was an intruder.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 14, 2024 4:44 pm

I agree with Stevo’s commentary here.

Blunt and to the point.

—-

Steve Inman:

Trump gets shot at Rally
https://rumble.com/v56uexp-trump-gets-shot-at-rally.html

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 4:44 pm

Why the hell did they wait for the shooter to fire before taking him out? Maybe the current law fare – you must wait for an assault before returning fire.

I am not entirely sure those two were returning fire.
At least not in the clip shown.

Vicki
Vicki
July 14, 2024 4:50 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Sancho – the guys in the photo, as I understand, were stationed on one of the elevated positions behind the stage. They were the ones who took out the gunman. The photo, of course, does not show the return fire, but I am sure they were the ones who took out the assassin.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 14, 2024 4:45 pm

Quote from Sky

Despite reports of multiple gunshots, law enforcement officials said the gunman only shot once before authorities returned fire in his direction.

An amazing claim, if true.
I hear 3 shots fired in close succession and to me they all sound the same.
That’s before another rapid volley that happens a few seconds later (return fire maybe).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 4:53 pm

Five being reported.

From 100 metres, we’re not talking about a Simo Häyhä here.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 5:14 pm

If you close your eyes AFTER you pull the trigger..

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2024 5:13 pm

the guy just happens to be in about the only location you could pull this off from ?

hmm… sinister stuff methinks

AR-15 allegedly found on site .223 perhaps?

assuming the first may or may not take it’s mark, you’d probably try to follow the target down with more shots

then maybe send a few into the crowd to create some chaos

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 5:03 pm

From The Australian.

As the crowd fled the scene, the horror and confusion of what had just happened were just sinking in. Witnesses named Lisa Reynolds, 55, and Debbie Jacob, 57, told me that the gunman wasn’t in the crowd but outside.
“We were about 150 yards from the shooter. We didn’t see him, but we heard the pops and saw the smoke from his fire,” Jacob said. “He wasn’t in the crowd, he was behind the chain fence. He must have had a rifle to get the shots that far — he must have been 500, 600 yards away. The Secret Service all ran for him and started jumping the fence.”

“The smoke from his fire?” Seriously?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 5:15 pm

Eye witness testimony.
500 600 yards away.
But “smoke from his fire” is a new one.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 14, 2024 5:16 pm

It’ll quite likely be dust blowing off the roof when he fired.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 5:37 pm

Good point, Sal.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 5:04 pm

Vicki

July 14, 2024 4:50 pm

Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Sancho – the guys in the photo, as I understand, were stationed on one of the elevated positions behind the stage. They were the ones who took out the gunman. The photo, of course, does not show the return fire, but I am sure they were the ones who took out the assassin.

Why are you sure of that?
What I see and hear is the first shot, at which point the guy on the right hits the deck and the guy in front crouches down and his weapon points skywards.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 5:07 pm

LOL. I submitted eight comments to The Australian re the attempted assassination of President Trump. Four were accepted, but four longer were ones rejected. Community standards, it seems. The rejected comments all had some critical things to say about the main stream media’s role in promoting violent reactions.

They don’t like it when it comes home to roost with them.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 5:19 pm
Reply to  Zippster

I wonder why the rifle was blurred out?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 14, 2024 5:10 pm

All this stuff about the directions the shots came from.

Has anyone mentioned a Grassy Knoll yet?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 5:16 pm

Further statement from the White House:-

President Biden is shocked and appalled at the attempt on the life of President Ford in the Lincoln Theatre late on Saturday evening.

The President is consulting with Vice President Putin to ascertain what can be done to improve security for candidates.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 5:21 pm

Reports that Donald Trump now wishes to be known as Vincent van Trump.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 5:26 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

You just know there’s going to be a meme of that. 😀

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 14, 2024 6:24 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Don Quickshote?

Gilas
Gilas
July 14, 2024 5:22 pm

Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 4:44 pm

Why the hell did they wait for the shooter to fire before taking him out? Maybe the current law fare – you must wait for an assault before returning fire.

I am not entirely sure those two were returning fire.

Correct, Crooks (if that’s his name),as seen lying on the roof, was shot in the back of the head, as shown by the congealed blood trails.

The TWO police snipers (there was no spotter in the photos) would have shot Crooks in the face or around the left side of the head. Also, their high-caliber weapons/bullets would have blown out Crook’s right skull region, the photo shows no such injury..

More questions than answers, at this stage.

Jock
Jock
July 14, 2024 5:29 pm

Setka resigns and now there is talk of deregistration. After all that loot scattered to the alp and greens at the last election? Sounds like elbo may be weeding the garden before an election

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 5:36 pm
Reply to  Jock

Not widely reported in the media (hello!) but the CFMEU was last week implicated in the biggest wage theft/underpayment case in Australian history, involving miners in QLD subcontracted as casuals (illegally) but not paid casual rates (also illegal). The CFMEU had signed off on the deal.

Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 5:29 pm

Bloodied but unbowed

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Rosie
Rosie
July 14, 2024 5:35 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 5:37 pm

Gilas at 5:22.
I initially thought the shots I heard might have been return fire by Plod, and the camera mike didn’t pick up the failed assassins fire.
But the key marker in the video is where Trump stops speaking and hits the deck. The reaction of the two guys on the roof looks more like taking cover than returning fire.

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 14, 2024 5:39 pm

Did the shooter kill himself?

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2024 5:42 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Setka did it

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 5:53 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Only if he had information prejudicial to Hillary.

cohenite
July 14, 2024 5:40 pm

Great analysis and images of the Trump assassination attempt by the demorats by Body Language Ghost:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UwWxJQN_sY

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 14, 2024 5:41 pm

I would never ask a woman to get in the line of fire to protect ANYONE.
But, I’ll give it to those gals bundling Trump offstage, they didn’t flinch in doing what they were there to do.

John
John
July 14, 2024 5:42 pm

They are reporting that the assassin is a registered Republican.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 5:54 pm
Reply to  John

Who donated to the Democrats…

JC
JC
July 14, 2024 5:43 pm

Dover

Not that I know anything about those Chinese banks, but you may want to ask Arnold Bertrand why were these banks suddenly acquired. Sudden acquisitions like that aren’t usually done because they’re healthy. We saw those types of acquisitions in the GFC and a few years ago during the run up of rates in the US.

cohenite
July 14, 2024 5:43 pm

I don’t know why Rowan Dean and Outsiders uses those never Trumper dickheads sean spicer and Annelise Nielsen. Nielson tried to turn it into a gun issue and spicer was very cautious.

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 7:16 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Spicer is not a never Trumper, he is quite good. That nong Mick Mulvaney is the never Trumper and thankfully they didn’t interview him while I was watching.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 5:45 pm

Farmer Gez
 July 14, 2024 5:39 pm

Did the shooter kill himself?

I think that is one possibility.
Knowing he has missed and the opportunity had passed, he could easily have topped himself.

m0nty
m0nty
July 14, 2024 5:47 pm

The Trump shooter was wearing a shirt with the logo of Demolition Ranch, a YouTube channel for gun fondlers.

So… a lone wolf?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 5:56 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Democrat donor Monty.

Hey remember when all those glowies and Antifa guys were wearing Maga hats at J6? Amazing how that works.

m0nty
m0nty
July 14, 2024 6:02 pm

He donated fifteen bucks to a PAC when he was 18. That hardly makes him an Antifa plant, you idiot.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 6:11 pm
Reply to  m0nty

I’ve never in all my years on this planet donated to the Labor Party, the Greens, the Teals nor the ACP.

Also that’s a lot of money when you are 18. It was when I was a penniless student.

It is evidence of a mindset. And the guy was only 20, so it wasn’t as if that was a long time ago.

He’s one of yours Monty. Denying it just makes you look like an idiot.

Oh and how did he afford an AR-15? Did he own it legally? Why choose that particular firearm, an infamous one in Dem circles? Did someone supply him it? He sure wasn’t a good shot, I suspect everyone on this site (except you) could have done a better job. Not that we ever would of course. I know myself having fired a M-16 in a range shoot that I could do far better even now, despite not having handled a firearm for forty years.

m0nty
m0nty
July 14, 2024 6:17 pm

Fifteen bucks might get you a Big Mac meal on DoorDash in Pennsylvania if there’s a special on.

You really are a first-class moron, Bruce.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2024 6:20 pm
Reply to  m0nty

mUnturd feeling a little testy (as different to feeling his undescended miniature testicles).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 6:24 pm
Reply to  m0nty

And you obviously weren’t a penniless student like I was for eight long years to get my obviously moronic chemistry PhD.

m0nty
m0nty
July 14, 2024 6:43 pm

If you don’t like being called a moron, Bruce, don’t say spectacularly stupid things.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 6:49 pm
Reply to  m0nty

I like being called a moron by a guy who doesn’t have a hard science PhD.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2024 7:26 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Advice you might consider for your commenting here.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 6:28 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Indeed the reason why I had the opportunity to fire a M-16 was because I joined the AAR during uni. The pay was small but it wasn’t taxed. Plus worked at remote sites in the long “vacation”. That, btw, is where I learned to hate unions.

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
July 14, 2024 7:39 pm

If you’re going to call Bruce a moron, monster, you’d do your argument a great deal of help if you weren’t such a predictable low-rent troll all the time.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 6:02 pm
Reply to  m0nty

PISS OFF, NAZI..

Gilas
Gilas
July 14, 2024 5:48 pm

Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 5:37 pm

Giles at 5:22.
I initially thought the shots I heard might have been return fire by Plod,

Given the unknown quality of the audio equipment used, it’s hard to be really sure, but all the audible shots seemed to be from a small caliber weapon, .22 or .22 magnum. Any small centrefire round (Rem .223s, 22-250s or similar), even if sound-suppressed, would have been much, much louder.
I agree, the police snipers did not shoot Crooks.. wrong angle.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 14, 2024 7:07 pm
Reply to  Gilas

all the audible shots seemed to be from a small caliber weapon, .22 or .22 magnum. Any small centrefire round (Rem .223s, 22-250s or similar), even if sound-suppressed, would have been much, much louder.

Depends on the range (and in this case the microphone effects)… a suppressed 223 at 150m would not be particularly loud.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 5:58 pm

If that was Biden, the shot would have got him right in the speech-writers earpiece.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 14, 2024 6:02 pm

Pure feculation on my part. But possibly the shooter was hiding over the roof ridge till he slithered over for his shot??

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 6:08 pm

That was indeed reported by witnesses at the scene, mole.

132andBush
132andBush
July 14, 2024 7:31 pm

I’ve been thinking that as well.
He was on the reverse slope of that roof.
Possibly not seen till he started shooting.
The people telling cops there was someone on the roof and nothing being done (if true) is not a good look though.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 14, 2024 6:03 pm

The Trump shooter was wearing a shirt with the logo of Demolition Ranch, a YouTube channel for gun fondlers.

So… a lone wolf?

Er no. Plenty of your lot want this

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2024 6:23 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

And would happily pay for the shirt. Probably also the rifle.

Hey mUnturd, this fact free speculation is fun. Can we all join in.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 7:01 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

Monty is desperately looking for some way – anyway – to blame Republicans for the shootings, but so far he’s shot of his big toe, his kneecap and his dick.
Wait. He didn’t have one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2024 7:28 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

And he can’t hit his testicles, as they have not descended.

Tom
Tom
July 14, 2024 6:12 pm

The US Secret Service is the Democratic Party’s Republican Guard.

That’s why the Secret Service didn’t allocate resources to ensure a sniper couldn’t take a shot at Trump from 130 yards away — a routine security sweep.

Unofficial White House director Barack Obama has blood on his hands.

m0nty
m0nty
July 14, 2024 6:12 pm

Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents, assuming they are alive. The Feds would be crawling all over their house.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 6:16 pm
Reply to  m0nty

PISS OFF, NAZI.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 6:19 pm
Reply to  m0nty

I don’t think so. Should we spare a thought for the parents of John Wilkes Booth? Or of Man Monis? Has his parents disavowed him yet? If not why not?

Arky.
July 14, 2024 6:19 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents, 

No.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2024 7:28 pm
Reply to  m0nty

And your point is?

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 6:14 pm

Today, in Sydney’s CBD, there was another progressive and Muslim Nazi rally….again intimidating Australian Jews.

Banners were held aloft on our CBD streets advocating intifada. The NSWaffen Police stood back and did nothing

Smack bang right outside the Great Synagogue on Elizabeth Street, a banner was held up with the words “Sanction Israel” and the synagogue gates were vandalised with anti-Jewish stickers. The NSWaffen Police stood back and did nothing.

Who here reckons the NSWaffen Police would allow a banner in front of a mosque with the words “Am Yisrael Chai”? I reckon the NSWaffen would not stand back and do nothing.

Oh but that’s right, Cassie of Sydney, they’re just letting off steam.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 6:21 pm

The IDF obliterated the number two Hamas guy last night.
The crater was quite large.
Good.

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 6:28 pm

Smack bang right outside the Great Synagogue on Elizabeth Street…

This is a disgrace.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 6:44 pm

I’m going back a few years, when somebody protested a Muslime outrage, by throwing a dead pig into a Perth mosque. The howls of outrage could be heard on the moon.

cohenite
July 14, 2024 6:15 pm

I thought Kenny was good on Outsiders: he called the old corpse’s statement about the assassination attempt as disgusting and even inciteful. He said it has been the demorat’s demonisation of Trump which has led to this and the old pervert was the main culprit in spewing lying filth about Trump.

Tom
Tom
July 14, 2024 6:21 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Kenny is a fairweather pretend conservative. I think he’s getting pressure from his kids to be a radical ratbag like them.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 6:18 pm

Speaking of Nazis, I see our resident Nazi is here defecating the site.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 14, 2024 6:23 pm

.223 ARG suppressed is my guess. You can buy subsonic rounds in .223. Another low sound round is a .300 AAC Blackout in subsonic, quiet and brutally lethal at that range.
The spectator who was shot suffered a catastrophic head wound which points to a centre fire.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 6:41 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Was thinking the same Gez, trump didn’t report a crack, just a whizz. Either that or his rifle had a suppressor on it.

Do we know the type or calibre yet? Saw Zipsters footage above but couldn’t make much out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 7:07 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Newer version of the AR -15, .223″ calibre.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 14, 2024 7:09 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

100% agreed, particularly given the bystanders catastrophic head injury … a 22 WILL NOT do that point blank, let alone at 150m

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 14, 2024 7:10 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

The Emergency Room Physician seated nearby, who responded to the head wound, reported that the patient had “no pulse”, detailed the catastrophic head wound, & stated that there was “no exit wound – the projectile remains inside”

As you say, points to centre fire, low velocity, firing a softpoint or hollowpoint.

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2024 7:10 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

sounded sub-sonic
thought it was a handgun

calli
calli
July 14, 2024 6:24 pm

They’re already talking about…Backlash!

I’m weary of the glib, childish, offhand reactions to this terrible event. A major news story treated as a joke because…Trump.

What the hell is wrong with people?

Roger
Roger
July 14, 2024 7:03 pm
Reply to  calli

They can’t think, for a start.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 7:39 pm
Reply to  calli

Calli, they’re communists. They have a very warped view of reality, morality, and humanity. Many of them cross the line into cultists.

KevinM
KevinM
July 14, 2024 6:25 pm

m0nty
July 14, 2024 6:12 pm

Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents, assuming they are alive. The Feds would be crawling all over their house.

You cannot be serious, taking the p,,s for sure but in a bad taste.

What about the dead and the other two in serious trouble, never mind Trump, just a graze and you are worried about the inconvenience of the parents of this scum.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 6:42 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Raised just over $85,000 in the first hour. Conservatives always put their money where their mouths are.

calli
calli
July 14, 2024 6:58 pm
Reply to  Indolent

The “News” is telling me he’s “lining his war chest”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 6:28 pm

m0nty
 July 14, 2024 6:12 pm

Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents, assuming they are alive. The Feds would be crawling all over their house.

Excuse me while I pretend to give a f-ck.
They’re just lucky conservatives don’t behave like you lot, otherwise they’d be facing a lifetime of slashed tyres, spittle and bricks through their windows.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 6:34 pm

Monty hasn’t worked out that his arrogance and high handed bullcrap is exactly why ordinary people are totally fed up with the lying left.

Today has been very revealing.

A perfect advertisement for the let them eat cake stratum.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 14, 2024 6:41 pm

Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents

Yeah nah.

IF the shooter was 20, then he is an adult.

IF he’s living at home at 20 instead of taking a bit of responsibility, then he’s making his own decisions.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 6:56 pm

Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents”

Nah…Nah….Nah. I have zero sympathy for the shooter’s parents. HIs parents should be ashamed.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 14, 2024 6:57 pm

Farmer Gez
 July 14, 2024 5:39 pm

Did the shooter kill himself?

I’m sure I saw an interview with a witness (the ranga!?) who said that they [ss] blew his head off. As though he witnessed that happening.
I’d link if I could remember where I saw it, sorry. Anyone else see it?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 7:03 pm

Yeah it was the BBC clip. The BBC guy was a bit nonplussed about that and said something like “we’re broadcasting live, can’t say that”.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 14, 2024 7:26 pm

Thanks. BBC have cut off the end of their own interview. https://youtu.be/Sut9pcNvTUs?t=802 this one ends before the witness actually describes the kill shot. Why did they do this?
I must have seen it on the Ch7 6pm news. Yes. Found it.

https://youtu.be/fzyuffFbaQQ?t=319

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 14, 2024 6:59 pm

How about sparing a thought for Prez Trump- some deadshit just tried to kill him.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 7:00 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Quite so, but it shows just who our Nazi cares about, and it ain’t Prez Trump.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 14, 2024 7:00 pm

So the POTUS race is now at parity;
it’s a contest between 2 almost-dead guys. 😀

Last edited 6 months ago by Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 14, 2024 7:32 pm

Oh someone didn’t think this was funny. Geez. Tough crowd.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 7:02 pm

“Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents”

But no spare thoughts for the people who copped a bullet from this far-left loon, one of whom died?

Last edited 6 months ago by Sancho Panzer
Miltonf
Miltonf
July 14, 2024 7:07 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

correct- must confess I had forgotten about that.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2024 7:35 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

They were attending a Trump rally, and in the eyes of mUnturd and his ilk, therefore not worthy of consideration.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 7:07 pm

“Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents”

Yeah, I know.
The poor cop who took the scumbag out will be filling out paperwork for a week.
Won’t get to see his folks for ages.

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2024 7:08 pm

The Trump shooter was wearing a shirt with the logo of Demolition Ranch

another join-the-dots by munty ?

don’t tell me… it’s a hand-bag

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 7:08 pm

I have a confession to make, I am now seriously in love/lust with Prez Trump. If he could only be a polygamist, I’d marry him. The way, when he was lifted up by the secret service, his face bloodied, in shock after the bullet scraped his ear, he then punched his arm into the air.

What a man! The epitome of marvellous masculinity. It was this same spirit that fought on the beaches of Normandy, that fought in the Civil War, that fought in the Revolutionary Wars. He really is exactly like a character from a John Ford western. A true son of America, a true defender of freedom, a true hero, a man for the ages.

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 8:13 pm

And if were anyone but Trump, or rather a Republican, Hollywood would right now be casting multiple movies about this event.

m0nty
m0nty
July 14, 2024 8:25 pm

How embarrassing for you, Cranky.

Seek professional help.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 8:30 pm
Reply to  m0nty

I too am now in love with Trump, and feel no need to “seek professional help”.

Cassie of Sydney
July 14, 2024 8:42 pm
Reply to  m0nty

You first, Nazi. Oh, and aren’t you embarrassed being a Nazi?

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 14, 2024 7:10 pm

one hell of a guy

Crossie
Crossie
July 14, 2024 7:11 pm

Oh dear, Joe Hildebrand erupting in verbal diarrhoea on Sky. Words are just tumbling out of him and most of the detritus is wrong.

Tom
Tom
July 14, 2024 7:26 pm
Reply to  Crossie

Hildebrand has a contract to be the Newscorp media’s chief promoter of the ALP government. It’s just that he hasn’t told anyone in the Sky News audience.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 14, 2024 7:11 pm

Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents, assuming they are alive. The Feds would be crawling all over their house.

Like the Feds who interrupt people who pray for the unborn souls in front of abortion clinics?
Farketh me sideways. I’ve heard it all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 7:11 pm

But, but … registered Republican.
But, but … had strange t-shirt on.
Listen m0nster, I know this has thrown you off.
That something the Biden Crime Syndicate has been dog-whistling for has been tried (but failed).
Take a deep breath, go back to the basement, sort through the talking points and come back with something half decent.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 7:14 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

I’m surprised he wasn’t wearing a MAGA hat like all those FBI agents and Antifa activists did at J6.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 7:13 pm

Funny thing I discovered today. I can access Blazingcatfur through Starlink but try with my mobile phone zip, “not secure” apparently.

Wonder how many other “far right/misinformation” shadow banned websites I’ll be able to see now.

LOL we’ve had Starlink for a while and I hadn’t noticed.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 7:18 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Optus and Telstra blocked BCF after Christchurch and as far as I know they haven’t unblocked them years later.

I can reach BCF via the VPN I use – indeed the blocking of BCF is exactly why I signed up for a VPN.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 14, 2024 7:21 pm

Dunno why it is blocked, not very controversial. Standard centre right chatter and from what I can see not a huge readership.

Thanks. Now I loathe Telstra/Optus duopoly even further.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 14, 2024 7:24 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Yeah, just tried without the VPN.

“Invalid URL” says Optus, who is my ISP.

shatterzzz
July 14, 2024 8:22 pm

No probs raising it with BRAVE browser thru SUPERLOOP who use Optus ………

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 7:21 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Once Elon brings out his mobile system, every other network will go silent. Can’t wait!

mizaris
mizaris
July 14, 2024 7:59 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Ah yes…I don’t need to use a VPN if I use starlink for anything.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 14, 2024 7:15 pm

I imagine the shooter’s (murderer’s) parents thing is a demonrat talking point. Despicable and lame.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 7:25 pm

Whenever I have seen Donald Trump stand up to the whatever filth is thrown his way, particularly today’s bloody contretemps, it brings to mind one of my favourite scenes from a television series.

Here’s a hint;

Watch
Wallet
Gun
Right foot
Left foot
God I love guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WTgq0w_hKs

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 7:33 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Snork, snork!

MatrixTransform
July 14, 2024 7:26 pm

spare a a thought

for Trump who’s had to live with the threat of this every day for a decade

the grim determination on the bloke’s face after being winged today says it all

132andBush
132andBush
July 14, 2024 7:33 pm

m0nty
July 14, 2024 6:12 pm

Spare a thought for the shooter’s parents, assuming they are alive. The Feds would be crawling all over their house.

No.
Look at the piece of maladjusted shit they raised.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 14, 2024 7:49 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Just like mutley’s parents.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 14, 2024 7:33 pm

Cassie of Sydney
 July 14, 2024 7:08 pm

I have a confession to make, I am now seriously in love/lust with Prez Trump.

I think today’s events and Trump’s response have made the Dimocrats – Pelosi, Schumer, the Biden Syndicate, Occasional Car Sex … all of them – look like very small and insignificant people indeed.
I mean, really?
Running tawdry gotcha court cases based on the spurious claims of a worn out hooker?
Come on, man.

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 7:35 pm

Here’s another one while I’m on a roll.
How to deal with the Chinese trying to take over your firm. 😀

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fCHAGbPv54

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 14, 2024 7:38 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfc7l1vz2jU

Another Denny Crane moment!

Pogria
Pogria
July 14, 2024 7:44 pm

Zulu,
Denny Crane MUST have been based on Donald Trump.
The unshakeable, unflinching belief in himself and the ability to get things done, the right way.

Boston Legal was a great show.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 7:43 pm

From the video here, President Trump moves his head as the trigger is pulled, just an inch or two to the left, and converts a lethal shot into a clip of his ear.
Fortunate indeed.

Arky.
July 14, 2024 7:56 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Would have taken out the back of his skull otherwise I think.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 14, 2024 7:48 pm

I’m having an awful lot of my FB posts disappear today…

mizaris
mizaris
July 14, 2024 7:55 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Moi aussi!!

132andBush
132andBush
July 14, 2024 8:05 pm

Put him in prison now, you devious scum.

I dare ya.

Zippster
Zippster
July 14, 2024 8:05 pm

Democrats in Pennsylvania register as Republican to vote against Trump in the primaries.

theres the answer

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 14, 2024 8:11 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Sleazy.

cohenite
July 14, 2024 8:09 pm

Danica and James asking the real question: how the fuk did the bastard get into position in a space readily identifiable as a perfect sniper location and then get off 5 shots before getting his dumb fuking head blown off by SS snipers who had him in their sights well before he started shooting. That is, biden and the rest of kunts have set this up.

And how lucky was Trump. The photo shows that if he had not been looking in the direction of the shooter and facing forward the bullet which skimmed his ear would have gone through the centre of his head.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 14, 2024 8:27 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Not sure what photo you’re talking about.
My interpretation… The video shows trump made a little orbit around the mic when he wanted to look at the chart and talk about it, so his head moved forward slightly at the same time he turned right. That may have been enough to make all the difference.

Gilas
Gilas
July 14, 2024 8:13 pm

flyingduk
July 14, 2024 7:07 pm

Depends on the range (and in this case the microphone effects)… a suppressed 223 at 150m would not be particularly loud.

Just my $0.02..

The Trump rally microphone/s picked up remarkably quiet, dry cracks, no boom whatsoever. Maybe that was simply artifact from poor equipment.

AFAIK, suppressors only reduce sound blast by 10-15dB, from 110+ dBs for any reasonable ammo, so the neighbours will still call the cops.. even if some blocks away.
After all, ear protection at the range isn’t for cosmetic effect.
One might get lucky with subsonic .22s.. just.. on a noisy day, but suppressed standard or high velocity .22s can still wake the dead, as would stock-standard .223s.

Can’t comment on subsonic .223s, but the powder load is higher than for any rimfire, so one would expect a significant boom, not the wimpy cracks at the Trump rally.
It’s all very puzzling.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 14, 2024 10:52 pm
Reply to  Gilas

I doubt I would chose any subsonic round for this task because whats the point? It would just take longer to get there, and have less energy when it did, making for a less accurate and less lethal shot. A suppressed 223 would still be supersonic, and thats what made the crack picked up at the podium. I have worked the butts at many a centrefire shoot and the loudest noise at 200m is the crack as the round breaks the sound barrier over your head. The noise from the gun comes later and is much quieter, given it is coming from 200m away, whereas the supersonic crack is being generated right where you are.

Zatara
Zatara
July 15, 2024 7:32 am
Reply to  Gilas

Many are getting hung up on the reporting that an AR platform was used, thus assuming it was a 5.56/.223 or even 7.62/.308 round.

But several manufacturers make AR platforms in .22, which would account for the apparent sound. I own one myself and shoot Federal’s 36-grain CPHP (copper-plated hollow-point) load for long range varmint tasks. Very effective and quite accurate out to 300 yards if one knows what they are doing.

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