Open Thread – Weekend 24 Aug 2024


Village at the Foot of a Hill in Saint Thomas, Antilles, Camille Pissarro, 1855

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 24, 2024 9:48 pm

On current counting, the NT CLP’s primary vote is 49.3%, vs 29.1% for the communists – sorry Labor.

The self-flagellation, after the one given them by the punters will be intense.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2024 9:56 pm

I note Eva Lawless, outgoing Chief Minister and someone who’s lost her seat, walked onto the podium to give her concession speech and the first thing she did, before any concession speech, was to give an acknowledgment of the ‘indigenous owners’.

Ideological wank.

And now spot the difference.

I note Lia Finocchiao has walked onto the podium to give her acceptance speech, and unlike Lawless, hasn’t indulged in wank ideological nonsense and hasn’t acknowledged ‘indigenous owners’ instead Lia immediately talks about ALL ‘Territorians’.

cohenite
August 24, 2024 9:57 pm

Good result in the NT. Let’s hope the LNP up there is not run by someone like the fat pooftas in NSW.

In other news islam the adornment to the West:

Expert says ‘honour-based’ violence on the rise after Adelaide family jailed over car park stabbing – ABC News

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 24, 2024 10:00 pm

That lawless bloke deserved to lose

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 24, 2024 10:01 pm

Hopefully a certain toadying Police Commissioner is cleaning his desk out at 8:01 Monday morning.
Who’s sorry now?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 24, 2024 10:03 pm

From the Oz.

The Northern Territory government’s most high-profile challenge is crime but behind the scenes the deeper crisis is debt. Lia Finocchiaro is poised to inherit a wicked problem decades in the making. Her ability to address the crime and social dysfunction in Alice Springs and beyond is severely impaired by the fact the territory of 233,000 people is a financial basket case.
It is beyond a commonwealth bail out. The NT has a net debt 10.82bn. By contrast there is sheer panic in Tasmania over a $3.5bn debt on an island of $541,000 people. Keep in mind, Tasmania does not have the social problems that the NT has. Its residents are in relative good health. Tasmania has also got 12 senators advocating for its interests in the federal parliament, thanks to a requirement in the constitution that gives every state 12 senators regardless of population and size. The top end has just two senators. And the hard work facing Ms Finocchiaro is unique Australia-wide because 30.8 per cent of NT residents are Indigenous. The Australian’s health editor Natasha Robinson has shown us in eye-opening reports why this matters. Central Australia is a global diabetes capital. NT hospitals are overwhelmed with diabetes admissions and required amputations on younger and younger Indigenous people. In the northwest corner of the NT in Arnhem Land, men die – on average – aged 54. All manner of chronic and preventable illnesses hit the top end’s Indigenous residents at shocking rates.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2024 10:05 pm

Hopefully a certain toadying Police Commissioner is cleaning his desk out at 8:01 Monday morning.
Who’s sorry now?

Yep.

cohenite
August 24, 2024 10:11 pm

Eva Lawless

Appropriate surname. And like all leftoid sheilas she looks like a baboon’s arse.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 24, 2024 10:15 pm

The bee explains the Trump Kennedy alliance..

https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1827071483962601836

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 24, 2024 10:18 pm

Watched Sky news coverage tonight. Absolute crap, the TV was flipped to the ABC at times who actually had a tally.

Second and everyone here agreed WTF was forme Chief Minister Shane Stone doing trying to hog some of the limelight? I dislike Clennell immensely but he echoed my thoughts about the appearance Lia could be a puppet. This is a suspicion I had already, young lawyer preselected at 27 and went on to be leader at 39 with no more than 5-6 years in the private sector. I wish her well and to be proven wrong but I remain to be convinced she’s “nobody’s girl.”

Lastly before I turn in, dude that won Fong Lim. Tried standing for preselection in the ALP 5 months ago. WTF is wrong with the CLP? He could quite easily jump to the cross bench Monday and start voting with the ALP…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 24, 2024 10:25 pm

RD:

the appearance Lia could be a puppet

Having met Lia on several occasions over the journey in various capacities, I sincerely do not believe she is a puppet or a figurehead of faceless party men, or anything similar.

When the CLP got wiped about 12 years ago to the point where they had only two or three members in Parliament, she was there. She is still there.

Like a young Steve Waugh when Australian cricket was shit, Lia has – I think – learned from the tough times and also learned to put the foot on the throat when on top.

Plus, she swears like a trooper when cameras and mikes aren’t there.

I may be proven wrong, but am prepared to say she’ll do.

Helen
Helen
August 24, 2024 11:10 pm

Territory Labor took the proles for granted, and ignored crime.
And locked us all up, sacked people for refusing mandate.And the goddamn voice.

Indolent
Indolent
August 24, 2024 11:16 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 24, 2024 11:18 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 24, 2024 11:25 pm
KevinM
KevinM
August 24, 2024 11:29 pm

There is your problem in the US and Jewish Americans.

Kamala Harris is the only leader Jewish Americans and Israel can trust.

I respectfully disagree, what has the Biden admin do for Israel, as opposed to for Iran?

Trump was on the verge of creating a peace deal in the ME.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 24, 2024 11:30 pm

GreyRanga
August 24, 2024 8:49 pm

My surgery has been put back to Thursday. Why do they always get the ugly nurses to do the icky tests. This place is full of hot young ladies but I get the 4’9” in every direction to stick the swab up my cute bottom. Same thing the other day getting my groin shaved. Life can be so cruel. In my case I suppose the crackers had first choice, so passed.

All the best, bloke.

KevinM
KevinM
August 24, 2024 11:32 pm

WHY ROMANS KEPT THEIR SWORDS ON THE RIGHT SIDE?

The Roman practice of carrying swords on the right side, while initially unconventional to us, was based on practical considerations of combat and equipment.

The Romans adopted this method from influences such as Iberian and Celtic practices, reflecting the integration of different military traditions into their own system. This shift became particularly notable with the adoption of the Gladius Hispaniensis around the 3rd century BC.

Here’s a deeper look into why the Romans carried their swords on the right:

1. **Practical Combat Considerations**: The primary advantage of carrying the sword on the right side was to prevent entanglement with the shield, which was worn on the left. By drawing the sword from the right, a Roman soldier could avoid the risk of the weapon getting caught between the shield and the body. This arrangement was particularly useful in the tight, close-quarters combat typical of Roman military engagements.

2. **Influence of Iberian and Celtic Traditions**: The Romans were influenced by the Iberians and Celts, who also carried their swords on the right. The Iberian Gladius Hispaniensis, which was a model for the Roman gladius, was often worn on the right. This cross-cultural exchange likely contributed to the adoption of the right-side carry in Roman military practice.

3. **Efficiency in Drawing the Sword**: Modern experiments have shown that drawing a sword from the right side can be as effective as from the left, especially with the Roman gladius, which was designed for quick, efficient use. This setup allowed for rapid access to the weapon, even if it required some adjustments in training and technique.

4. **Evolution of Equipment and Tactics**: Over time, the Roman military evolved, and so did their equipment. By the end of the 3rd century AD, the Roman army began to phase out the short gladius in favor of longer swords, such as the spatha.

The longer sword was often worn on the left side, in line with broader European military practices, which favored the left-side carry for convenience and consistency with changes in combat tactics and armor.

In summary, the Roman method of wearing swords on the right side was a tactical adaptation that suited their specific combat style and equipment needs. It allowed for effective use of the gladius in conjunction with the shield and was influenced by earlier military traditions.
However, as military technology and tactics evolved, so too did the conventions for carrying weapons.

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Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 24, 2024 11:33 pm

honour-based violence
Wally sez- you can immediately categorize any neologism as bullsh*t, for example here it’s lipsticking the pig of Islam’s ordinary treatment of females as sub-human chattel. AKA premeditated murder.
Also sez, honour-based violence will soon be a sub-category under male violence, just like family violence effectively is. gas-whistles abound in our blob media.

KevinM
KevinM
August 24, 2024 11:34 pm

Darn right.

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H B Bear
H B Bear
August 24, 2024 11:40 pm

The NT isn’t really representative of the rest of Oz but I suspect Albo and the Liars are in more trouble than they realise. I don’t buy the narrative they just drift into minority government.

Indolent
Indolent
August 24, 2024 11:40 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 25, 2024 12:15 am

Emotional stuff.

David Bowie – Heroes [Christiane F. – Wir Kinder Vom Bahnhof Zoo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9BbXD-wRfA

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 25, 2024 1:50 am

Peter Van O reveals new look:

I’m just going to say it straight and without any sugar coating: Australia is in a terrible predicament right now. 

The Labor government – in a relatively short space of time – has proven itself to be utterly hopeless. 

Anthony Albanese is an unworthy Prime Minister, and I say that as someone who had high hopes for the job he might do. 

Daily Mail

KevinM
KevinM
August 25, 2024 2:33 am

Do you think they dare to introduce it?

It’s in the Daily Express
Pay walled I can’t access it.

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Top Ender
Top Ender
August 25, 2024 2:36 am

A few notes from a quick eight day work cruise around the Mediterranean.

The highlight was Ephesus in Turkey. Some excellent Roman ruins including the Library of Celsus. Nothing to do with Celsius either. It was a lofty public building with apparently 12,000 scrolls in it, built around 110AD.

Celsus was a commander of the Roman army before being elected as a consul for the Roman Empire. He is buried in a crypt in the library floor.

The liner had about 2,400 passengers on board. I did talks on “How the Colosseum worked”; “Invading Gallipoli in World War I’; “The Battle for Crete in World War II”, and one on the enduring fascination of the Titanic. Unusual for a cruise liner this last I suppose, but the Activity Managers seem to like it – I have done it before on two other ships.

We also did a trip on a motor cruiser around the Santorini Volcano from the town of Fira, 150 kilometres north of Crete. It’s an enormous crater – well, a caldera – several kilometres across, with the walls of the crater now broken in by the sea in several places, creating a lot of islands. The interior of the crater is 500m deep – rather odd to sail the liner into such a place, although it has been dormant since 1950.

Got off the cruiser at a large island and walked about 2 k’s uphill to the top of what was basically lava. Lots of black crushed rock therefore. A reasonably hard walk given it was about 34 degrees. Mrs TE went swimming afterwards…I had enough of being in the Greek sun.

We are now winging it to Lisbon. The cruise company booked my ticket and when we went to get Mrs TE’s there were none left. So I am going Aer Lingus via Dublin, and she is flying Swedish to Copenhagen and then Portugal. So basically doing 2000 k’s to get to somewhere 1000 k’s away….

We are boarding another river cruise – non-work though – and will be navigating Portugese and Spanish waterways for 10 days.

Tom
Tom
August 25, 2024 4:00 am
Zatara
Zatara
August 25, 2024 4:14 am

Classic dark comedy from the DNC.

The guy in blue is a comedian from Texas.

The BBC reporter is so marinated in the wokeism that he never realizes he is being punked no matter how OTT the speaker gets.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 25, 2024 5:09 am

Yep, magic.

Simon & Garfunkel – The Boxer (from The Concert in Central Park)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JUbFj0BIc4

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 25, 2024 5:27 am

( – :

Black – Wonderful Life (Ultrasound Extended 12 Inch Version)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYAUwe2j0w

Bungonia bee
Bungonia bee
August 25, 2024 6:36 am

BBC again tub thumping about settlements in the West Bank being illegal under “international law”. Where were they when Jordan took the West Bank by force in 1949?
There have been many stories about land being “taken” rather than “purchased” from the Arab people there. Some fact checking needed, perhaps Cassie can help.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 25, 2024 6:51 am

Excellent WIP thanks Tom. Many chortles.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 25, 2024 7:35 am

Ta KD. Always know floating a question here will get an answer.

At any length NT has some serious problems ahead especially with debt. I was last really there in any capacity while the gas plant was being built at Middle Arm and thought housing in Darwin was overpriced, food and grog I know from previous visits back to the early1990’s have always been at a premium. Nanny statism too on my last blow through in 2021.

Wish her luck.

Tom
Tom
August 25, 2024 7:39 am

After yesterday refusing to cover the fallout from this week’s biggest US political story, RFK junior’s decision to end his run for the presidency and back Donald Trump – except for an irrelevant dirge about the end of the Kennedy dynasty by the never-Trump Times of London – the Paywallian online further disgraces itself today with old staff feminist Helen Trinca fellating Barack Obama’s husband (The contagious power, the exhilaration of Michelle Obama) – a vomitous up-yours to the Paywallian readership who aren’t doctor’s wives.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 25, 2024 7:53 am

It’s now official.

NASA to Keep 2 Astronauts in Space Until February, Nixes Return (24 Aug)

After almost three months, the decision finally came down from NASA’s highest ranks on Saturday. Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams will come back in a SpaceX spacecraft in February. Their empty Starliner capsule will undock in a week or two and attempt to return on autopilot. …

So Wilmore and Williams will wait for SpaceX’s next taxi flight. It’s due to launch in late September with two astronauts instead of the usual four for a routine six-month stay. NASA yanked two to make room for Wilmore and Williams on the return flight in late February.

Boeing certainly hasn’t been having a good run lately. Maybe Elon should sling at them a bid for the company, since SpaceX can build stuff that works.

Roger
Roger
August 25, 2024 8:02 am

American Peronism: Kamala’s Plan to Ruin America’s Economy

Daniel Lacalle, Mises Institute, 24 August 2024

Price controls, higher taxes, government intervention, and subsidies paid for by printing a constantly devalued currency.

These are the essential pillars of “21st century socialism” and the radical left Peronism that obliterated Argentina. These are also the main elements of the economic plan presented by Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party. Undoubtedly, this is the most radical socialist economic plan ever announced by the Democrats.

According to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), Harris’s proposals will cost $1.95 trillion over 10 years. However, it emphasizes that if certain measures become permanent, this figure could increase to $2.25 trillion.

The Harris campaign has stated that these costs will be offset by a classic excuse of socialism in any election: “higher taxes on corporations and high earners.” This is, obviously, ludicrous, because there is no revenue measure that will cover the already bloated $2 trillion annual deficit and an added $2 trillion. The mantra of “higher taxes for the rich” always means higher taxes and more inflation, a hidden tax, for you.

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has already warned of the fiscal disaster of the United States, with an annual deficit of 6% of GDP. Despite not accounting for a recession and projecting record tax revenues from 2024 to 2034, the CBO predicts an explosion in the budget deficit from $1.9 trillion to $2.8 trillion by 2034, even before factoring in Harris’s new spending plan. This means that the adjusted deficit will rise above 6.9 percent of GDP by 2034, almost twice the average of 3.7 percent over the previous 50 years.

 

Following the Harris plan, the United States public debt will likely increase by $24 trillion in a decade. As I have explained, there is no set of revenue measures that can bring $2 trillion per year in additional tax receipts, and tax hikes will harm both investment and growth.

An economy that generates an annual deficit of 6 percent of GDP to achieve a mere 2 percent annual growth is already on a dangerous path, and Harris’ plan would make it even worse.

Kamala Harris promises to cut inflation by spending and printing more money, reducing competition, and attacking businesses. It has never worked and never will because it is upside-down economics. Welcome to the U.S. “Peronism.”.

Imagine all those United States citizens who have escaped Latin American or European economies impoverished by interventionism to find a better opportunity in the United States only to find that the same policies will be implemented by Harris.

The narrative of price gouging and greedflation is simply false. In 2023, profit margins in the grocery industry hit the lowest level since 2019, at 1.6%, according to the IMF. Corporations, even if they were stupid and reckless, cannot make all prices rise constantly. Competition would eat away at their market share; newcomers would eliminate them, and aggregate prices would fall. Furthermore, stores and businesses cannot make aggregate prices soar, maintain the increase, and consolidate it, which is the measure of inflation (CPI) we read every month. The only thing that can make all prices rise and continue increasing at a slower pace is printing money and eroding the purchasing power of the currency.

The only thing that can make aggregate prices rise constantly is the destruction of the purchasing power of the currency, which comes from massive government spending and printing currency to disguise fiscal imbalances.

Kamala Harris and her team know that their spending plan will make the national debt soar and that price controls do not reduce prices. In fact, these should not be called “price controls” but “limits to competition.” If corporations were the cause of inflation and price controls were the solution, Peronist Argentina would have enjoyed the lowest inflation in the world in the past decades.

Harris’ proposals to forgive debt are profoundly anti-social. They do not forgive any debt; they just add it to the national debt and make you pay for it. This enormous increase in public debt will be a burden for every American, particularly the poorest, with persistent inflation and lower real wages. US citizens have already endured negative real wage growth since January 2021, when Biden took office, according to the Federal reserve of St Louis. Expect worse.

Why does Harris promote the same policies that have failed everywhere? Promising free stuff and blaming others for the negative consequences is the defining strategy of socialist politicians.

Are you surprised to see how Germany, France, and other historically rich nations slump into stagnation, high debt, persistent inflation, enormous taxes, and the destruction of the middle class? Those policies are what Harris is promising. Who benefits? The vast government and its surrounding corporations reap the benefits.

Many people hold the belief that a nation cannot be considered socialist if it contains private companies. It makes no sense. State control does not limit itself to capital ownership but also to the imposition of increasingly restrictive laws, regulations, and confiscatory taxes. In fact, the government likes to absorb most of the wealth created by the private sector without the inconvenience of managing the businesses. Huerta de Soto defines socialism as “any system of institutional, methodical aggression against the free exercise of entrepreneurship” and that is precisely what Harris promises.

Higher taxes and more debt.

The government will print money to provide subsidies in a currency that is constantly losing value. It will blame stores and businesses for inflation. Interventionist policies will continue to erode the private sector. And they will repeat.

The makers of these policies are aware that they will negatively impact the economy, yet they will also engender a substantial number of enslaved citizens who rely on the government and must abide by its decisions. Voters see an alleged tsunami of free money but ignore the fact that they will pay for it through higher inflation, lower real wages, and diminishing opportunities for small businesses and families.

The Harris team believes deficits do not matter and that the Federal Reserve can always disguise any budget imbalance. However, cracks have already appeared. Persistent inflation is the consequence of years of excessive spending and monetization. The next step is the risk of losing the U.S. dollar as the world reserve currency when the world stops accepting the ever-increasing debt.

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Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 8:18 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 8:19 am

@ClownWorld_

Kamala Harris’s brother-in-law, Tony West, has been accused of manipulating taxpayer funds to funnel billions of dollars to left-wing groups and trial lawyers during his time in the Obama administration. West, who is married to Kamala’s sister, was involved in the 2014 mortgage settlement, where he allegedly redirected a significant portion of the funds to Democratic allies instead of compensating victims.

Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2024 8:20 am

From The Oz….

Police make second arrest over festival knife attack
German police made the arrest at a hotel for asylum seekers not far from the scene of the attack, which was claimed by Islamic State as ‘revenge for Muslims in Palestine’.

Well, duh!

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 8:22 am
Roger
Roger
August 25, 2024 8:24 am

German police made the arrest at a hotel for asylum seekers not far from the scene of the attack, which was claimed by Islamic State as ‘revenge for Muslims in Palestine’.

It started with rhetoric.

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 8:27 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 8:28 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 8:30 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 8:33 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 8:36 am
Vicki
Vicki
August 25, 2024 8:36 am

An interesting assessment of the Bayesian disaster:

Bayesian Disaster Emblematic of Our Era Reflections on the shipbuilder’s statement. JOHN LEAKE
AUG 24

When I first heard reports that the Bayesian superyacht had sunk at anchor outside a marina in Sicily, I was incredulous that such a huge and technically yacht could sink at anchor, even in the most fearsome tempest. 
However, after carefully studying (and sleeping on) the statement of the shipbuilder, I have am increasingly drawn to the conclusion that the conduct of the skipper and crew are beyond rational comprehension. 

  • With heavy thunderstorms in the forecast, it is indisputably true that someone should have been keeping the watch on the bridge. This is standard procedure when bad weather is in the forecast. 
  • The second thing that really jumped out at me is that portholes and hatches—and apparently the stern door to the main salon!—were purportedly left open. 
  • Finally, I was stunned to see the confirmed report that the Bayesian lost its anchor hold and dragged for 4 minutes before it sank.
  • During this time, it appears that the vessel began violently yawing at the same time it was dragging the anchor, with the bow possibly running afoul of the anchor chain. 

Here it seems worth mentioning that I have experience sailing off the coast of Sicily and I am familiar with the wild weather that can strike in the early morning hours. In the summer of 2001, I chartered a 50-foot sailing yacht near Tropea, Calabria and sailed west to the Aeolian Islands. After an uneventful night anchored off Stromboli, I sailed to Lipari. 
Because the docks in the marina were fully occupied, I anchored just outside the marina. The relatively deep water and rocky bottom made me nervous about the anchor holding, so it I didn’t sleep well. The next morning, just before sunrise, the anchorage was struck by a gale that caused the anchor to lose its hold, and within minutes the vessel had drifted into 200+ deep water, with virtually all the anchor chain dangling straight down off the bow, exerting far too much weight for the boat’s mickey-mouse windlass to lift.

The FIRST thing I did was double check to make sure ALL portholes and hatches were closed. I then quickly started the inboard and did my best to hold the bow directly into the wind, which drove heavy rain straight into my face at over 50 miles per hour with what I took to be 60+ gusts.
I wasn’t alone. Other sailing yachts had also lost their anchor hold and were drifting. In fact, the only yachts in the anchorage that did NOT lose their anchor hold were a few super yachts with massive anchors and tons of chain. A few skippers of the other drifting boats had not yet awakened and started their inboards, and some of these boats were drifting into the anchored super yachts, which created a hell of a ruckus.
With the help of a friend onboard, I was able to slowly winch up the anchor chain using dock lines and the jib winch. It was a slow and painstaking process, especially in the driving rain, but at last we got the anchor up around the same time the gale blew over.

I mention this nautical adventure to emphasize that my actions were a matter of basic seamanship. As the boat’s skipper, I was merely following standard procedure. Had I been a really good skipper, I would have:

1). Looked at the weather report right before I went to bed.
2). Set two anchors off the bow instead of only one. 
3). Set an alarm to wake me in at the time bad weather was forecast to approach. 

Eyewitness accounts of the Bayesian’s sinking are now being reported in the press. I found the following, just published in the Guardian, to be of special interest.

Located approximately 150 metres (492ft) away from the Bayesian was the Sir Robert Baden, a Dutch-flagged sailing ship built in 1957, and captained by the experienced sailor Karsten Borner, 69.

“We were awakened by the storm,” Karsten told the Guardian. “The first thing I did was to start the engines of my sailboat to give more stability to the vessel. After securing our boat, we immediately approached the Bayesian.’’

A photo obtained by the Guardian from a local fisher showed the moment a red emergency flare was launched from the Bayesian’s life raft at 4.35am.

Francesco Lo Coco, who took the image, said: “I saw the sailboat rocking. The emergency rocket was launched while the sailboat was already sinking.”

Borner was the first to attempt providing assistance to the Bayesian, but the boat was already going under.

“I have never seen a vessel of this size go down so quickly,” said Borner. “Within a few minutes, there was nothing left. Then we saw the raft with the 15 passengers. It was a tragedy.”

From a video taken by surveillance cameras at a shipyard, it seems the passengers of the Bayesian had about 16 minutes to save themselves and avoid the sinking. 

In light of my elementary knowledge and experience, it is hard for me to understand why the skipper of the Bayesian didn’t—at the very latest—start the inboard and get ready for action soon after the leading edge of the storm started to lash the vessel with the first gusts. A glance at the weather radar would have revealed to him the approaching squall line with dense thunderstorm cells. 

Was he afraid the sound of the diesel inboard would wake the sleeping guests who’d enjoyed a party the evening before? Were he and his crew also sleeping when the squall line approached? 

In the final analysis, I suppose the investigation will focus on the question: Were there indeed hatches and even salon doors left open even afterthe leading edge of the storm struck? If this is confirmed to be the case, it will strongly raise the suspicion of gross negligence if not foul play. 
Whatever the investigators discover, I feel confident in stating now that the Bayesian Disaster is—like the SARS-CoV-2 Lab Leak, the COVID-19 Vaccine Debacle, the Nord Stream Pipeline Disaster, the Lahaina Fire, the Baltimore Bridge Disaster, the Trump Assassination Attempt—emblematic of our mind-bogglingly confounding era

Indeed, much of era reminds me of Roman propaganda against the Emperor Nero, whom propagandists claimed was a bizarre combination of wealth, power, insanity, and incompetence. While I suspect that much of the lore about Nero was probably exaggerated and even fabricated, the portrait of the Emperor that had come down to us over the ages strikes me as providing an apt description of whatever Great Lords are running our world today. 

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 25, 2024 8:37 am

Be interesting if Farage starts picking up Labour voters.

Nearly Six in Ten Labour Voters Back Cutting Migration, Quarter Willing to Vote for Farage’s Reform UK (24 Aug)

The poll also found that around one in four Labour Party voters would consider defecting and voting for Brexit leader Nigel Farage’s Reform UK party.

While the Farage-led party holds many traditionally conservative policy positions, Reform UK has made its mission to target voters in working-class Labour Party strongholds, many of whom voted for Brexit over a desire to reduce immigration.

Which supports my suspicion – that the Southport rioters were more probably Labour voters rather than Tories. Like Labor here there’s an increasing rift between old style industrial Labour and the nutty progressives that control the party.

Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2024 8:45 am

A synagogue attacked in Montpelier in Southern France

President Emmanuel Macron vows to find “terrorist” responsible for the flames that broke out outside Beth Yaacov synagogue in France on Saturday morning after a car exploded in front of the building, according to French officials.

Police were hunting for a suspect and the anti-terrorism prosecutor’s office was put in charge of the investigation, Prime Minister Gabriel Attal said.

“This is an antisemitic attack. Once more, our Jewish compatriots are targeted,” Attal posted on X, adding: “We won’t give up. In the face of anti-Semitism, in the face of violence, we will never allow ourselves to be intimidated.”

Well, at least the French don’t mince words and they call a spade a spade. Perhaps the grub from Grayndler could learn a thing or two. Here in NSW our police would provide the terrorists responsible with an escort, soshul coheshun and all that!

I make no apologies for the fact that I now have zero respect for the police in this country, ZERO.

At least the news last night out of the NT as good. It was an electoral smashing.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 25, 2024 8:48 am

Courier Mail has article up about Candace Owens. Seems to suggest she is a flat earther which I missed. Article implies likely to be banned but we should be able to hear her so can realise how wrong her thinking is.

Roger
Roger
August 25, 2024 8:52 am

Candace Owens to be refused entry?

But surely her spiel is mere rhetoric…

Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2024 8:54 am

Just further to Bourne1879’s comment yesterday……….

Creighton is one of the best journalists out there. 

Agree 100%.

Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2024 9:00 am

that the Southport rioters were more probably Labour voters rather than Tories. 

I made that comment a few days ago.

In the UK, there is a tradition of Tory working class voters….in the south. That phenomenon does not exist in the north, and if there was any traditional support, the miner’s strike in 1984/1985 under Thatcher destroyed any working class support for the Conservatives.

In an interview last week, eminent historian David Starkey predicted that the white indigenous working class will now abandon UK Labour once and for all.

Rabz
August 25, 2024 9:04 am

Albansleazy is an unworthy Prime Minister, and I say that as someone who had high hopes for the job he might do

Perfesser von Wrongsolen at his finest. For me there were no high hopes for Albansleazey, it was inevitable he’d be a disaster as PM, barely in charge of a goat rodeo of staggeringly dangerous and incompetent imbeciles.

Delusions of adequacy indeed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 25, 2024 9:06 am

Paige Taylor
Northern Territory elections: Lia Finocchiaro and the Country Liberals inherit a wicked problem after defeating Labor
Updated 2 hours ago
251 comments
The Northern Territory government’s most high-profile challenge is crime but behind the scenes the deeper crisis is debt. Lia Finocchiaro is poised to inherit a wicked problem decades in the making. Her ability to address the crime and social dysfunction in Alice Springs and beyond is severely impaired by the fact the territory of 233,000 people is a financial basket case.

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Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 9:08 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 9:12 am

Famous influencers are dropping like flies: Why?

One of the comments –

I lost my business, lost my house, lost my friends, lost my wife… but I didn’t get jabbed. I am not here for forgiveness.

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shatterzzz
August 25, 2024 9:15 am

Imagine if you can .. You’ve just dun a hard dayz “sturmer-ing” and you pop into your local for a quick one .. and the entire bar is in hysterics .. LOL!
UK plodding 2024 style ..!
https://x.com/i/status/1827276877775392896

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 25, 2024 9:17 am

For me there were no high hopes for Albansleazey

Me neither- anyone with half a brain knew it was set to be a rerun of RGR but maybe even worse (hard to believe that was possible I know)

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 25, 2024 9:18 am

Vicki

 August 25, 2024 8:36 am

An interesting assessment of the Bayesian disaster:

Stuffed up the priors.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 25, 2024 9:22 am

Greens on track to nab seat in NT election
Liam Mendes
The Greens are leading the primary vote for the seat of Fannie Bay, setting them on course to nab a seat in the Territory election in what was previously a very safe Territory Labor seat.

It would make Suki Dorras-Walker the first-ever Greens MLA elected in the Territory, and the first time Labor has lost the seat in almost 30 years.

Police Minister Brent Potter had won the seat in the 2022 by-election following then-chief minister Michael Gunner‘s resignation.

Speaking to The Australian on Saturday afternoon in the hour prior to polls closing, Ms Dorras-Walker said she would be introducing “smart and different solutions” to crime.

“What we’re hearing from people is they want to see smart solutions to crime, they know that they have seen over time that prisons are ineffective, they’ve seen our prison population grow by 30 per cent over the last decade, and people are feeling more unsafe than ever,” Ms Dorras-Walker said.

“What they want to see is the core reasons as to why crime is happening in the first place addressed and so if we look at the fact that we have the highest rates of domestic violence in the country, we have the highest rates of homelessness in the country, if we are not addressing those two facts, then we are tinkering at the edges.

The primary school teacher, mother and law student said there weren’t enough youth services on the street, that she wants to build public housing, as well as “fully fund” the domestic violence sector.

“I’m just so incredibly proud that we’ve been able to provide an alternative to the two major parties this election that’s actually with some vision for community safety, some vision for our community in the future,” she said.

“It’ll come down to a few hundred votes in Fanny Bay, because the Greens are very close to getting our first seat in parliament, and we’re really excited that we have proposed yet another alternative for the community this election.”

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 9:22 am

There’s a reason why people keep putting Thomas Sowell clips up (this is a short speech). There is simply no one who can explain things better.

The Ignorance of the Left on Price Control | Thomas Sowell

Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2024 9:25 am

Roger
 August 25, 2024 8:52 am

Candace Owens to be refused entry?
But surely her spiel is mere rhetoric…

Indeed, perhaps we should ask government lackey Mike Burgess for his opinion. Burgess the Lackey seems to enjoy a bit of media attention, he’s now the ‘go to boy’ or that should be the ‘go to lackey’. Question to Burgess the Lackey, does he think Owens’ rhetoric is more harmful than a Jew hating homicidal Gazan’s rhetoric? Surely both are letting off noxious anti-Semitic steam, Mr Burgess? Or is some steam worse than other’s steam? Why the selectivity, Burgess?

Me personally? I don’t like either steam but I like and expect consistency from my federal government.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 25, 2024 9:51 am

No one has mentioned this one yet, so I’ll put it up.

‘Running Hot Project’: e-scooter firm accused of audacious scam (Paywallian)

Global e-vehicle company, Beam Mobility, has allegedly been putting “phantom” scooters on the streets of cities across Australia and New Zealand to cheat governments out of millions of dollars in fees and subvert safety limits.

Usually a few Beam bikes and scooters around my suburb, although there are fewer than initially. I’ve only seen one in actual use in the last couple of years.

As for the story I’m wondering if the “phantom” scooters are actually real scooters that just happen to be at the bottom of the Yarra. I put up a story last week about such aquatic e-scooters.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 25, 2024 10:02 am

Three guys in a renter not far from me would come home, hop on the scooters outside their place, off to the pub then back home later. Those scooters must have been the most lucrative around, coz I rarely see hire scooters being used.

areff
areff
August 25, 2024 10:09 am

Collect stamps? Golf? Train spotting or trugo? Not this bloke

Give thanks for such eccentrics because what they do is often very interesting – in this case a one-man Stonehenge construction crew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD5Lc3-5iDs

Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2024 10:10 am

Breaking news, multiple stabbings at Engadine here in Sydney.

Makka
Makka
August 25, 2024 10:14 am

@disclosetv

1h

JUST IN – U.S. Navy will sideline 17 vessels due to a “manpower shortage” that makes it difficult to properly operate ships across the fleet — Fox

Roger
Roger
August 25, 2024 10:15 am

Ms. Plibersek has some more explaining to do:

The location of the secret water spirit business that meant a billion dollar gold mine couldn’t proceed is reportedly part of an operating farm.

But for section 10 of the relevant legislation to apply, the land must be restricted solely to indigenous use.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 25, 2024 10:21 am

Multiple people injured in Sydney stabbingLiam Mendes
22 minutes ago.
Updated 3 minutes ago

A major police operation is underway in Engadine following reports to emergency services that a police officer and multiple civilians have “multiple stab wounds” and lacerations.
It is understood five people are being treated by paramedics, with one person in cardiac arrest and a police officer injured with lacerations.
Initial reports to Ambulance NSW stated there was one patient “with multiple stab wounds”.
It is understood an alleged offender is also being treated by paramedics after the incident on Old Bush Rd.
Another patient has a stab wound to their abdomen, and another with a broken arm.
The first critical patient has been transported from the scene and is a 40-year-old woman who is being taken to St George Hospital for multiple stab wounds.

shatterzzz
August 25, 2024 10:23 am

Aaaah! the fickle hand of “chance” favours the brave .. LOL!
4 leg bet last night 3x thugby, 1x fitba .. The 3 thugby legs are in but the fitba Brighton v Man Utd playing a draw at 88 minutes .. Cash-out is $45 result is $152 .. what to do ..
The, bloody, obvious, & takes the $45 .. extra time Brighton scores .. winz .. duuuuuuh!
Sez it all, about my luck, really .. LOL!

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
August 25, 2024 10:23 am

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/multiple-people-injured-in-sydney-stabbing/news-story/0977f1f4d90d2a5a484384eeb00029b8

A major police operation is underway in Engadine following reports to emergency services that a police officer and multiple civilians have “multiple stab wounds” and lacerations. 
It is understood five people are being treated by paramedics, with one person in cardiac arrest and a police officer injured with lacerations. 
Initial reports to Ambulance NSW stated there was one patient “with multiple stab wounds”.
It is understood an alleged offender is also being treated by paramedics after the incident on Old Bush Rd. 
Another patient has a stab wound to their abdomen, and another with a broken arm. 
The first critical patient has been transported from the scene and is a 40-year-old woman who is being taken to St George Hospital for multiple stab wounds.

More to come.

Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2024 10:24 am

If you want an insight into just how ignorant and idiotic Owens is, in a podcast she claimed Stalin was Jewish!

Stalin was born to Georgian Orthodox parents, he was baptised into the Georgian Orthodox church, he had zero Jewish ancestry, and he entered, for a short time, an Orthodox seminary.

Having said that, I regard Owens’ noxious ravings as a lot less threatening to my safety than 3000 Gazan homicidal genocidal Hitlerites landing on these shores. Owens is a monumental idiot, propelled way above her lowly pay grade, and she is easy to debate and debunk.

shatterzzz
August 25, 2024 10:28 am

Ms. Plibersek has some more explaining to do:

What’s more worrying is, giving the way it came out as “secret 251 business” she or her “advisors”, actually, believed no one would either notice or care ..
Just sheer disdain for the voters .. a standard Labor gummint trait …..!

Makka
Makka
August 25, 2024 10:31 am

The traitorous scum who allow these shitholers in , legally or illegally, should all be imprisoned for life.

https://x.com/Mick_O_Keeffe/status/1827364292330397854

@Mick_O_Keeffe

“You are never getting your country back.”

Africans waving Irish and British passports mock the people of Ireland and the UK.

When even their women are like this, how can you deny their intent to colonise and take over?

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bons
bons
August 25, 2024 10:31 am

Fannie Bay going Green!

That would be true to form. At a time when the NT demands solid conservative management, the public servants and doctors’ wives sail off into fantasy land.

Just as in the South, the privileged class inhabit a bubble of self centered deliberate ignorance and denial.

John H.
John H.
August 25, 2024 10:35 am

Huge payout over wrongful Xmas party ‘thrust’ claim | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

I place this here because, perhaps too optimistically, it is a sign that no longer will courts uncritically believe claims of sexual harassment.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 25, 2024 10:44 am

Sad news.

California fire destroys baseball stadium featured in ‘A League of Their Own’ (23 Aug)

The Jay Littleton Ballpark, in Ontario, California, went up in flames about 11:30 p.m. and is a “a total loss,” city spokesperson Dan Bell said. The cause of the fire is not known, but investigators are on scene, he said Friday, adding that the stadium’s grandstand was wooden and likely burned very quickly.

It’s a nice little movie, with Geena Davis and Madonna. Based on WW2 history too.

cohenite
August 25, 2024 11:07 am

Fox has not dis-endorsed Trump; they merely published a list of RINOs including kinzinger and other shitheads who have. In other news RFK jr’s daffy family including his sister Kerry have dis-endorsed him and stated cackles and tampon tim offer the best hope for the US. I left a message on the shit brain’s X account asking if she felt that way about cackles 2 months ago when she was the most unpopular VP ever.

In other news a really great Week in Culture, focusing on the DNC shit show; lots of clips guaranteed to make you wake up in a cold sweat at 2 am:

THIS WEEK IN CULTURE #200 (rumble.com)

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 25, 2024 11:09 am

Something to be happy about, Joyful in fact!

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 25, 2024 11:23 am

The kinzinger thing with its political science ‘degree’ truly is contemptible. Always looks like its about to cry.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 25, 2024 11:32 am

Who would you pick to debate Candace? Jewish Dr David Adler would be interesting. They would have some common ground on Covid and vaccines.

“Owens is a monumental idiot, propelled way above her lowly pay grade, and she is easy to debate and debunk”.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 25, 2024 11:49 am

I have had many comments at Courier Mail rejected over the years but this one below under today’s article about John Setka is one of the more difficult to understand. It was my second attempt.

“I think there were a few other issues apart from late night suitcase issue that caused his sudden resignation.
The infiltration of bikies into Union roles and the head of AFL referees saga just to name two”.

Purely factual based on multiple recent articles.

shatterzzz
August 25, 2024 11:51 am

Currently reading “THe Last Flight of the Luftwaffe” by Adrian Weir and came across these casualy figures for UK bomber command & USAAF 8th Air Force over Europe .. Never realised there was such a disparity between the two dsepite the US being involved over a shorter period ….
RAF 55 573 … USAAF … 3030 ……..
The RAF figure equates to 12% of all British Empire & Commonwealth losses during WW2 …….

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 25, 2024 12:12 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naulzw-Za6w

Great Britain has just had a communist takeover, and most have still not woken up to it.
You can ‘March On Number 10’, and bake yourselves a great big fancy ‘March On Number 10’ cake, or carry around a truckload of multi coloured ‘March On Number 10’ banners while you go into paroxysms of delight at ‘sticking it to the man’, but once you realise “You can vote yourselves into Communism, but you have to shoot your way out.” isn’t just a fancy slogan, you are just holding your breath like a five year old who wants ice cream instead of meat and 3 vegies.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 25, 2024 12:40 pm

At a gala dinner. Should be horse whipped and have rotten fruit thrown at him.

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Black Ball
Black Ball
August 25, 2024 12:42 pm

I must say the new Chief Minister up norf is rather attractive.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 25, 2024 12:45 pm

BB I assume that’s the Ferral Court judge? As I’ve stated before, I loathe the smug bonhomie of the legal profession.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 25, 2024 12:48 pm

Don Harwin miltonf

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 25, 2024 12:53 pm

Oh right lol

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 25, 2024 12:55 pm

Yes the NSW lieboral party. Have they expelled Trumble yet?

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BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 25, 2024 1:12 pm

Where’s Dot and his mate Kirk Sorensen?
China has built two MSReactors…

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 25, 2024 1:15 pm

Breaking: Israel Launches Preemptive Strikes in Lebanon to Thwart Massive Hezbollah Attack

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/breaking-israel-launches-preemptive-strikes-lebanon-thwart-massive/

Israel announced late Saturday night (US EDT) that it had launched preemptive airstrikes against Hezbollah targets in Lebanon to thwart a massive rocket, missile and drone attack.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 25, 2024 1:15 pm

Does CPV exist in the NT? The internet won’t tell me sends me off to passenger vehicles there & Queensland.

IMO the below is a farce and proves it is worse than FPTP but not quite as bad as MMP. Greens probably wouldn’t be in second place on 2PP if people were given a choice to extinguish their vote.

OPV gives me a chance to ignore people crassly that I wouldn’t urinate on if they were on fire and still have a valid vote. CPV doesn’t.

Fannie Bay Primary votes:

Candidate Votes

Laurie ZIO (CLP) 1,503
Suki DORRAS-WALKER (GRN) 1,106
Brent POTTER (ALP) 1,038
Leonard MAY (Ind) 128

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 25, 2024 1:19 pm

That said great morning watching the juniors play country footy. Slightly cool morning in central Victoria. No sign of stormageddon the news.com kiddies were fulminating about.

One thing I miss in Queensland and my children had little exposure to was the country football/netball clubs.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 25, 2024 1:20 pm

“Fire broke out Friday on a Greek-flagged oil tanker previously attacked by Yemen’s Houthi rebels this week, with the vessel now appearing to be adrift in the Red Sea, authorities said.

[…] A United States defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters, said American officials were aware of the fires and continued to monitor the situation.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/up-flames-houthi-attack-blows-up-greek-oil/
That’s good – the US ‘Authorities’ are monitoring the situation. The Houthis will stop shooting at ships now, won’t they?
So why the sudden attacks on the Western Nations now?
Because our leaders have demonstrated weakness and an inability to contain Islam. That’s why.
Our leaders are collaborating with Islam in demonstrating that we won’t resist them.

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JC
JC
August 25, 2024 1:32 pm

JC, I posted the article in part as evidence that sanctions had failed to dent the Russian economy at all, and more broadly, that they are generally ineffective at changing the relevant policy that was the reason for their enactment. Since you won’t admit to the abject failure of sanctions, you want to talk about military Keynesianism.

You keep bringing up these sanctions like it was the only and major part of the economy. While they didn’t succeed in bringing Russia to its knees, it has caused difficulties. However, I’m not talking sanctions with you, even though you deliberately try to divert any discussions to this blessed topic of yours.
 
 

On that score, the difference between a car and a tank, to use your example above, depends. If a car actually contributes to productivity it is economically useful, but if its simply a status symbol, or one of many that are irregularly used, how is it more productive than a tank?

 

That’s some interesting economic analysis you have going on. Re-direct 20% of the national economy towards an invasion, and you begin talking about Mercedes-Benz cars and Bentely’s.
 
 

And tanks are productive, not in an economic sense, though they are if they generate export sales, but they are useful if they defend a nation’s interests.

Interesting, a tank to be used invading Ukraine and blown up shortly after raises living standards over the medium term. Let’s invade New Zealand and become seriously rich doing so. War causes prosperity.

You’re continually posting propaganda how prosperous Russia has become with the invasion. Perhaps, you could also focus your attention, just one time, on the terrible damage this has done to Ukraine. But because you see Ukraine as your enemy due to this Russia attachment you have, you’re won’t.
 

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 25, 2024 1:33 pm

One thing I miss in Queensland and my children had little exposure to was the country football/netball clubs

Yes.

They are the hearts and souls of little towns.

Zatara
Zatara
August 25, 2024 1:40 pm
JC
JC
August 25, 2024 1:49 pm

Bullseye.

Bill Ackman reposted

JUST IN According to a Western intelligence official, Israel’s preemptive strike targeted missile launchers in Lebanon that were set to fire towards Tel Aviv at 5 a.m. The official confirmed that all targeted launchers were successfully destroyed, and Israel is now bracing for a strong retaliation from Hezbollah, reports the New York Times.

Zatara
Zatara
August 25, 2024 1:52 pm

Telegram messaging app CEO Durov arrested in France

“Durov was travelling aboard his private jet, TF1 said on its website, adding he had been targeted by an arrest warrant in France as part of a preliminary police investigation. TF1 and BFM both said the investigation was focused on a lack of moderators on Telegram, and that police considered that this situation allowed criminal activity to go on undeterred on the messaging app.”

When the EU says you don’t have enough censors on your highly encrypted messaging app you might want to ask how they know that.

Oh, and ask Elon to rent you a room because you really need to stay out of the EU.

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 2:01 pm

This meme was under Zatara’s Jon Stewart link. It really sheets it home.

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 2:06 pm

@DD_Geopolitics

BREAKING: Statement from Hezbollah:

In the name of God, the destroyer of tyrants.

We will surely take revenge on the criminals. At dawn on this Sunday, August 25, 2024, and within the framework of the initial response to the brutal Zionist aggression on the southern suburb of Beirut, which led to the martyrdom of the great jihadist leader, Sayyed Fouad Shukr, may God have mercy on him, and a number of our honorable people, women and children, the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance began an air attack with a large number of marches towards the Zionists

The Islamic Resistance in Lebanon is now and at this moment at its highest level of readiness and will stand strong and vigilant against any Zionist transgression or aggression, especially if civilians are harmed, as the punishment will be very severe and harsh.

Victory comes only from God, the Almighty, the Wise.

chrisl
chrisl
August 25, 2024 2:08 pm

I was on my way from G-town to the G yesterday on the train and sitting opposite me was a bloke drinking a longneck .
It was very strange… I mean who drinks longnecks these days ?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 25, 2024 2:09 pm

Sitting in a noisy Makka’s having lunch after having to do a slow 1.5 hour crawl around the Heathcote bypass of Engadine on way home from Nowra this morning. Stabby attack at Engadine around 9am has interrupted our day significantly. The Princes Highway was completely closed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 25, 2024 2:13 pm

Hairy does not do long crawls in traffic with any show of equanimity. Glad we could find a park in Makka’s nearby as it was full of similarly cranky drivers all seeking similar relief.

He is improving after a Mac-cafe, a Caesar wrap and some chips.

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 2:18 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 2:19 pm
Black Ball
Black Ball
August 25, 2024 2:20 pm

The NSW Commish fronted the cameras today?

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 25, 2024 2:20 pm

The Solingen stabber has been arrested. Der Spiegel identifies him as a Syrian asylum seeker, on the German equivalent of a protection visa.

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 2:24 pm

@runews

Who is Pavel Durov?

Pavel Durov, the founder and owner of Telegram, is a significant figure in the tech world. As of August 24, 2024, his net worth is estimated at $15.5 billion, placing him among the world’s wealthiest individuals, ranked #120.

Durov’s notable achievements began with the creation of VKontakte (VK), Russia’s largest social network, which he co-founded with his brother Nikolai in 2006. VK quickly became a dominant platform in Russia, similar to Facebook. #Durov’s tenure at VK was marked by disputes with Russian authorities over data privacy and content control. In 2014, facing mounting pressure, he was compelled to sell his stake and leave the company.

In 2013, Durov launched Telegram, a cloud-based messaging app renowned for its emphasis on privacy and security. With over 700 million monthly active users, Telegram has become a significant player in the messaging app market, competing with platforms like WhatsApp. The app has gained prominence in various global conflicts, including the ongoing Ukraine war, where it has been a crucial source of information and, at times, disinformation.

Durov relocated to Dubai in 2017 to escape Russian pressures and continue his work with Telegram. In 2021, he obtained French citizenship, a move that has become a central aspect of his current legal status.

Today, #Durov has been arrested in Paris on August 24, 2024, as he disembarked from his private jet at Le Bourget Airport. The arrest was conducted based on a search warrant related to allegations of money laundering, illegal drug trafficking, and the distribution of content linked to child abuse on Telegram. The arrest has raised significant concerns about his future and the potential repercussions for his company.

Despite these challenges, Durov remains a pivotal figure in the technology sector, known for his commitment to digital privacy and innovation. He is also a father of five and balances his high-profile career with family life. His recent legal troubles highlight the complexities of navigating global business and personal security in the digital age.

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 2:26 pm
Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2024 2:29 pm

I must say the new Chief Minister up norf is rather attractive.

Yes, she’s a very pretty gal.

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 2:31 pm

Hard to disagree.

@catturd2

Just so you know …

The Government of France … anti-free speech communists.

The UK … anti-free speech communists.

Australia …. anti-free speech communists.

Canada … anti-free speech communists.

and the USA under Kamala and Joe Biden … anti-free speech communists.

The New World Order is here – WAKE TF UP !!!

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 25, 2024 2:33 pm

Lots of activity in southern Lebanon/ northern Israel

BBC has started a live thread.

Hezbollah fires hundreds of rockets as Israel conducts pre-emptive strikes (BBC live)

Will Paradise run out of virgins?

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 25, 2024 2:37 pm

chrisl

 August 25, 2024 2:08 pm

I was on my way from G-town to the G yesterday on the train and sitting opposite me was a bloke drinking a longneck .

It was very strange… I mean who drinks longnecks these days 

Funny you should say that. I was watching a clip* the other day and almost teared up seeing people selling newspapers on the street.

*The Squires – Going All The Way

Probably Yippies but.

bons
bons
August 25, 2024 2:43 pm

How long before Laughing Boy launches an operation to repatriate ‘Aussies’ ‘trapped’ in Southern Lebanon? That would be the third time. It would be far cheaper to simply withdraw Centerlink payments which would bring them home voluntarily.

Still nothing that Labor may do compares to Scummo’s outrageous operation to repatriate arrogant wealthy medicos from their Antartic tax dodge cruise while refusing repatriation rights to tens of thousands of Aussies who were reduced to penury as a consequence of having to sustain themselves overseas for years.

No matter what evil is visited upon that man, it is insufficient.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 25, 2024 2:45 pm

Pavel Durov, the founder and owner of Telegram

was interviewed by both Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson in last few months.

?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 25, 2024 2:57 pm

I mean who drinks longnecks these days?
Oi Zoomer
We used to call them “bottles” before youse size-shy kids showed up

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 25, 2024 3:15 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 25, 2024 3:48 pm

Do. Not. Change. The. Channel. news (the Tele, and apropos of the Engadine stabbery):

Police have praised the “amazing work” work of those who stepped in to protect a woman when a knife-wielding man went on a stabbing spree following a car crash in Sydney’s south

Bloke driving around, 9.15 on a Sunday morning. Chick in the passenger seat decides to change the radio channel.

Bloke pulls out box cutter and stabs chick.

Crashes.

Bloke continues to stab chick, and also a bystander who comes to her aid.

Bloke gets out of car as jacks arrive. Stabs self in wrist and neck while running away. Is Tasered, yet manages to also stab an imprudent jack who jumps on him perhaps a second or two early.

Just another Sunday.

JC
JC
August 25, 2024 3:49 pm

Since the British bint took over the WSJ, she has improved the newspaper immeasurably with unforgettable articles.

The Wall Street Journal
@WSJ
Mismatched socks are bad, ankle socks dated—and don’t get our writer started on “no-show” styles. Our definitive guide to the rules that apply to men’s socks. https://on.wsj.com/3yNs18y

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 25, 2024 3:54 pm

guide to the rules that apply to men’s socks

Here it is:

Are you wearing shoes? Wear socks.

The End.

cohenite
August 25, 2024 3:58 pm

guide to the rules that apply to men’s socks

In my student days I wore socks as gloves and big ones as beanies. In those days socks were a young bloke’s best friends.

cohenite
August 25, 2024 4:04 pm

Moment Albo’s marriage ended: ‘I never thought I’d find new love’In his most candid interview yet, Anthony Albanese has told of his shock the moment the love of his life ended their 19-year marriage, revealing he never saw it coming.

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Rub and tug got by just fine though:

Albanese “interrogated” on massage parlour visit – “it was therapeutic”
Why I think the Anthony Albanese True Thai Massage story is important and newsworthy – Michael Smith News

JC
JC
August 25, 2024 4:07 pm

cohenite

August 25, 2024 3:58 pm

In my student days I wore socks as gloves and big ones as beanies. In those days socks were a young bloke’s best friends.

Why am I not in the least surprised.

JC
JC
August 25, 2024 4:11 pm

Get a load of Vermont. It’s not just a blue state. In fact, it’s so dark blue, it’s black.

Vermont Senate – Sanders vs. Malloy vs. Schoville vs. Hill

Sanders +41

+41means 41 points ahead.

Roger
Roger
August 25, 2024 4:15 pm

How long before Laughing Boy launches an operation to repatriate ‘Aussies’ ‘trapped’ in Southern Lebanon? That would be the third time. It would be far cheaper to simply withdraw Centerlink payments which would bring them home voluntarily.

But…oh!…the howls of outrage.

Bwahahaha!

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Roger
Roger
August 25, 2024 4:22 pm

One thing I miss in Queensland and my children had little exposure to was the country football/netball clubs.

Then you mustn’t really be in country QLD, RD.

😀

mem
mem
August 25, 2024 4:25 pm

Looking at NT election results and the turnout which was 55% of eligible voters. Is voting compulsory up there? Also can anyone shed some light on what went on in Arafura electorate. It had the lowest turnout at 36% but of the formal votes, the ALP got 71% which seems odd given other trends. Perhaps you got a free beer and a ride to the polling booth if you voted Labor. Or maybe the CLP candidate was a dud? Love to know. https://ntec.nt.gov.au/elections/current-elections/2024-territory-election/results/nt-summary-of-first-preference-votes-by-division

Zatara
Zatara
August 25, 2024 4:34 pm

Lest there be any doubt that the media participated in the DNC Beyonce propaganda effort to create an audience for Harris…

Corporate media help spread DNC’s Beyoncé disinformation

The receipts, as the kids say these days.

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vr
vr
August 25, 2024 4:44 pm

A mate with a Thai mrs attests Centrelink know exactly when she leaves and sometimes has FTB suspended for her Australian born children prematurely when she does her once a year 4 week holiday back to Thailand. You can out of Australia 6 weeks apparently without penalty.

This is true. The clock starts ticking as soon as you leave the country.

With pensions, I believe it is possible to get the pension while living overseas. Cheaper than sending someone to a old age home.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 25, 2024 4:45 pm

Zatara
August 25, 2024 4:34 pm

Lest there be any doubt that the media participated in the DNC Beyonce propaganda effort to create an audience for Harris…
Corporate media help spread DNC’s Beyoncé disinformation
The receipts, as the kids say these days.

——

Who would go and see Beyonce or Swift? Their music is deadset garbage. Perfect for dunderheads.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 25, 2024 4:46 pm

Rather ho hum affair at Docklands with the Saints and Carlton flogs.
Hopefully the status quo remains until the end, then Fremantle defeat Power to tip the Blues out of the finals.

John H.
John H.
August 25, 2024 4:47 pm

Morsie

 August 25, 2024 12:55 pm

 Reply to  Bourne1879

No rhyme or reasonI made a comment on an Oz article on osteoporosis which recommended weight bearing exercise.I asked what if you are in a wheelchair like my wife.Rejected FMD

Raises the question for me: bot moderated?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 25, 2024 4:50 pm

John H.
 August 25, 2024 10:35 am

Huge payout over wrongful Xmas party ‘thrust’ claim | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site
I place this here because, perhaps too optimistically, it is a sign that no longer will courts uncritically believe claims of sexual harassment.

An eminently and unsurprisingly sensible decision by Judge Richard Cavanagh — I’ve known this gentleman for nigh on 40 years an excellent lawyer and all ’round good guy. Well done Judge Cavanagh

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 25, 2024 4:51 pm

Both are okay, but the boat, Salty Dingo, has officially arrived at DESTINATION F*UCKED!

It sucks.

——

B2B Castaways (Strick and Fran)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJfI7PohEx4

johnjjj
johnjjj
August 25, 2024 5:29 pm

Now let me get this straight: Issa is Sunni Muz, bearded, stabs people at event, on a Friday, in the neck ( no too sure on this), claimed by ISIS…. yeah/na I think we can successfully rule out terrorism. His name is Arabic for Jesus.

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Rosie
Rosie
August 25, 2024 5:30 pm

In Navan.
I’m staying in a 1930s end of row house.
The owner is a widow on a pension who’s put her two spare bedrooms and backyard bungalow to good use.
The money she makes goes to home renovations/repairs she otherwise couldn’t afford and she reckons she might quit when it’s all done.
She says the income taxes are ruinous and it’s property taxes that encourage people to leave houses vacant.
She got robbed in an aggravated burglary two weeks ago, just two televisions taken, though they could have taken her handbag and car keys and her car, obviously.
She heard them but assumed it was guests who’d gone downstairs for a snack.
Odd to only take TVs, sounds more like a burglary you would do in 1980.
Only houses on this side of the street, opposite is waste land adjoining the banks of the River Boyne.
I saw three vagrants sitting in the long grass when I went for a walk so I did wonder.
I’m going to day trip to the towns of Trim and Kells.
Had a walk around Navan yesterday evening and attended the vigil mass, Portuguese priest and a sideways interior, and like many Irish churches the Communion rail was never removed.
Very well attended. Two saint Marys a couple of hundred metres apart the Church of Ireland one only offers a single Sunday service against four masses.
Despite the best efforts of various English kings and Lord Protectors and secularism Catholicism isn’t dead in Ireland.
Noticed a grave in the church, linky below there is also a St Oliver Plunkett’s church in Navan, not sure if the bishop is related.
http://www.navanhistory.ie/index.php?page=p-j-plunkett

Rosie
Rosie
August 25, 2024 5:37 pm

Centreline automatically get notified of client passenger movements.
About 15,000 Australians live permanently in Lebanon plus those that enjoy going home for a summer holiday.
I think a lot of Bekaa/Beqaa Valley mansions are owned by Australian Lebanese.

Tom
Tom
August 25, 2024 5:39 pm

Southern Vicco being hit by a hailstorm as we speak, triggering the hysterics trying to convince us something unusual is going on. Um it’s almost spring, you morons, where the arse end of winter is replaced by a stormy season with large temperature swings.

It’ll feel like winter again next week as nature does its thing.

Funny how climate change hysteria aligns perfectly with the left’s cultural self-hatred.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 25, 2024 5:41 pm

90-100km wind gusts just passed through on the SW change.
I was caught out in the open and had to sit down away from trees and watch for any flying sheets of tin. The dog stayed right beside me. Good for both of us.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 25, 2024 5:43 pm

Very interesting Rosie- never been to Ireland

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 25, 2024 5:47 pm

Ireland also the home of the Victorian and S Australian 5′ 3″ railway gauge.

JC
JC
August 25, 2024 5:51 pm

Russian economy doing splendidly reverting back to Soviet economics.

Who needs a new car when you can buy a couple of tanks and artillery

President Vladimir Putin and his authoritarian regime are peddling the false narrative that the Russian economy is strong, and that its war machine is unharmed by western sanctions. This is a lie that must be rebutted. In fact, there are many signs that the Russian war economy is deteriorating. The sanctions and other measures to weaken the Russian economy are effective, but even more can be done. We must continue to increase pressure on Putin’s regime and support Ukraine.

During the Nato summit in Washington DC, western leaders reaffirmed their commitment to Ukraine’s defence. But Russia’s war against Ukraine is not only being fought by soldiers on the ground. It is also a war of information, on which the Kremlin spends an estimated $1.5bn (£1.2bn) a year, and of economic strength. Putin and his authoritarian regime want us to believe that Russia stands unmoved by sanctions and other efforts made to support Ukraine, freedom and democracy. Thus, it is extremely important that politicians, the media and economic institutions in the west do not take the information coming out of the Kremlin at face value. When taking a closer look at the signals, it becomes clear that everything is not as rosy with the Russian economy as Moscow would have us believe.

While Russian GDP may be growing, the economy is increasingly geared towards the war industry, upheld by large fiscal stimulus. This is not an endless source of growth, nor a sign of a stable economy. The Kremlin’s war factories are already at maximum capacity. Unemployment has fallen to the point that there are reports that Vladimir Putin approved the replacement of imprisonment for forced labour. The tight labour market has put upward pressure on wages, while the weaker ruble increases import prices and is contributing to increasingly high inflation, despite Russian central bank efforts to fight it with high interest rates.

To finance the war, the Russian government has tapped into the liquid assets of Russia’s national wealth fund. Estimates by Bloomberg suggest it has almost halved in size since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, as the country sacrifices its future prosperity to wreak havoc abroad. Moscow has also resorted to several extreme interventions to control the Russian economy. Export bans for petrol and sugar have been introduced to secure domestic supply. Strict capital controls have been put in place to prevent the exodus of private funds from the country and keep the ruble from freefalling. Even so, there are still reports of billions of US dollars being transferred out of the country.

For many Russians, the wartime economic policy of the Kremlin must bring about a sense of deja vu. Capital controls, export bans and heavy investments in the war industry are not new policies, but rather a return to the Soviet playbook.

What could be perceived and mistaken as a “boost” to Russian growth is, in fact, the beginning of a re-Sovietisation of the economy.

Many of the hallmarks are there: far-reaching market controls, heavy public spending financed by expropriation of private assets, and a reorientation of the economy towards the war industry, with a total disregard for the social and economic wellbeing of the population. History clearly shows that this is not a successful long-term strategy. The short-term overheating of the economy, fuelled by heavy investments in the war industry and very limited access to technology, will likely hinder productivity gains and result in stagnation of the private sector, even more rampant inflation and increasing pressure on Russian households.

To cover future deficits, Putin will have to use monetary financing, adding more fuel to inflation, and further deplete the Russian cash reserves. If Putin stays on this path, the long-term damage to the Russian economy could be significant and is likely to further erode confidence. However, this also requires patience and resolve from the west. We must maintain and increase pressure, while continuing and strengthening our support to Ukraine. Russian propaganda must not be left unchallenged.

Unlike the story Russia would like to tell, sanctions targeting the Russian war machine are effective and necessary. They have reshaped the geography of Russia’s foreign trade and limited its access to high-priority battlefield items. Between 2022 and 2023, Russian export revenues had decreased by around a third, based on information from the Russian customs service.

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Black Ball
Black Ball
August 25, 2024 5:56 pm

Phuck yes Saints! Come to the party Freo

Pogria
Pogria
August 25, 2024 6:21 pm

Today would have been my mother’s 100th Birthday. She died a few moths after her ninetieth. A pretty good innings.
I will toast her with a couple of shots of Frangelico, her favourite tipple. 😀

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2024 6:28 pm
Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 25, 2024 6:37 pm

Extraordinary light show over Melbourne’s East right now…

Not striking the ground but near-continuous flashes across the sky.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 25, 2024 6:42 pm

I will toast her with a couple of shots of Frangelico, her favourite tipple. https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f600.svg

Mine too Pogria, you dear departed mum had good taste,. Salute

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 25, 2024 6:46 pm

True to Sky News form, Clennell tonight carried water for the Labor/Green/Teal push by asking Susan Ley about the earth tremor in the Hunter Valley and its implications for the coalition’s Nuclear Power Plant plans.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 25, 2024 6:52 pm

Fluffy Annaliese finally does a report which casts some negatives on Democrats. What took her so long?

Rosie
Rosie
August 25, 2024 6:55 pm

If workplace rudeness is actionable the courts are going to be awfully busy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 25, 2024 7:06 pm
Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 25, 2024 7:09 pm

Who do those Democrats think they are, some kind of Joy Division?

calli
calli
August 25, 2024 7:09 pm

Finally. A panel on Sunday Showdown who don’t shriek at each other. Refreshing.

I do like Natalia. She sounds like Natasha Fatale. 😀

Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2024 7:10 pm

I will toast her with a couple of shots of Frangelico, her favourite tipple. 

Enjoy Pogs, and think of Mum.

I like Frangelico though my favourites are Amaretto and Sambuca. I adore licorice.

Speaking of Sambuca, remember how it used to be served with some coffee beans and then set alight with a match? I remember decades ago going to a long lunch, a time when everyone went on long boozy lunches and everyone got roaring drunk. Everyone at this lunch got smashed and then out came the sambucas with coffee beans. I can still remember sitting at the table and a man I know got up to give a speech, the waitress came out with the sambucas, and the man, very drunk, picked up his glass of burning sambuca, went to take a swig, it missed his mouth and instead his glass of burning sambucas landed on his shoulder and his jacket was set alight. We all laughed Luckily there was water on the table!

Those were the days, halcyon days.

JC
JC
August 25, 2024 7:14 pm

dover0beach

August 25, 2024 6:45 pm

President Vladimir Putin and his authoritarian regime…

From the Guardian. I thought the ‘resovietisation’ theme a nice touch.

There we go without a shred of backup. Nice touch.

If you have any counterarguments to those facts presented, then show us, or otherwise we can go with the pic of good looking Russian gals sitting around, pretending some obscure Russian/Soviet propaganda site is revealing about the state of the Russian economy. But then, for someone who thinks an economy dedicated to a war effort, cut off from an economic zone that contributes 45% of global GDP, is doing well, this person would be brainwashed to believe anything.
Hey, look, there’s a bunch of Russian girls enjoying an afternoon coffee. Everything’s fine.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 25, 2024 7:23 pm

The Norhtern Territory’s new chief minister has an interesting nsme == Finocchiaro approximately means — in the end it’s clear or at last clarity — clearly the Northern Territory had had enough of Labor.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 25, 2024 7:23 pm

Joe Hildebrand: The election is more Kamala Harris’s to lose.

JC
JC
August 25, 2024 7:30 pm

The ironic thing is that people showing Putin-love appear to also have the hots for Trump, believing Trump will quickly end the war. He might, or is very likely to, end it. However, that leaves one thing out. After the end of this war, Mr. 87% (Putin) has to contend with an economy focused on the war effort and moving back towards a peace-based economy.

Trump’s big policy is “drill baby drill”, which could very well mean oil&gas prices take a big tumble. There’s also Argentina eyeing off exploiting its very large petroleum reserves, which I believe are tar sands.

This isn’t going to be a walk in the park for Russia.

If I were a Putin lover, I’d be going for Harris.

A war-economy refocused toward peace combined with falling fossil fuel prices is not going to be a walk down the beach on a gorgeous day.
There’s also a likelihood, Russian sanctions remain for a long time, even with Trump.

JC
JC
August 25, 2024 7:32 pm

Joe Hildebrand: The election is more Kamala Harris’s to lose.

Is he including the cheating margin?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 25, 2024 7:52 pm

Anyway, your very good health to all on the Cat.

Mme Zulu and I had lunch at one of our old haunts in the Swan Valley, today.

She calculates it is the most substantial meal she has had, since being diagnosed with this vooking cancer – over two years ago!

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 25, 2024 7:59 pm

Good to hear

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 25, 2024 8:03 pm

support Ukraine, freedom and democracy

LOL! Banned opposition parties, banning churches and a “president” whose term has expired. Some freedom, some democracy. Utter bilge.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 25, 2024 8:16 pm

Senator Rennick resigned from LNP to form his own party called People First.

Below is from the Courier Mail. Story at the Oz already has over 200 comments but Courier article no comments allowed so far. Courier Mail has never given him a fair run, particularly in relation to Covid issues.

He will be fighting for the 6th Senate slot and hopefully beats the LNP candidate who was chosen to replace him.

“Renegade Queensland Senator Gerard Rennick has resigned from the Liberal National Party after he was dumped from preselection in an internal ballot.
Senator Rennick lost his position on the LNP’s senate ticket at the party’s state conference to party treasurer Stuart Fraser in Brisbane last July.
On Sunday, the 53-year-old quit the party to run as an independent in the next federal election, The Australian reported.
He will reportedly seek Australian Electoral Commission approval to establish the Gerard Rennick People First party.
The move comes after a Supreme Court judge rejected a case seeking to force the party to allow an appeal of the preselection process in June”.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 25, 2024 8:21 pm

OK. Is the sound track superimposed, or are the bouncing objects making the noise?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PTiKjpQ-FUE?feature=share

cohenite
August 25, 2024 8:31 pm

Roy Ah-See the relevant 3rd nations spokesperson for the land where plibbers shut down the proposed gold mine in NSW due to a complaint from the lunatic Aunty Nyree, was on Outsiders today. Ah-See got a sympathetic hearing which misses the point: none of these grifters, ratbags and loons should have any say on asset development in this shithole. The Outsiders crew were deferential to Ah-See just because he wanted the gold mine to go ahead but they missed the point that he should have no say either. I kept expecting rowan to say ah-so, Ah-See, but it never happened.

cohenite
August 25, 2024 8:33 pm

In other news, the fuking LNP prove again they are scum:

Senator quits LNP after preselection loss (msn.com)

The senator is Rennick: one of about 6 or 7 in the whole of the LNP worth feeding.

Gabor
Gabor
August 25, 2024 8:44 pm

Eyrie
August 25, 2024 8:03 pm

support Ukraine, freedom and democracy

LOL! Banned opposition parties, banning churches and a “president” whose term has expired. Some freedom, some democracy. Utter bilge.

But, but, it’s not Russia.
Get it?

Zippster
Zippster
August 25, 2024 8:45 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 25, 2024 9:08 pm

Oh man! This is rough.

—-

Peter Santinello:

Inside America’s Largest Open-Air Drug Market –Kensington (Philadelphia) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWGwCbSUECw

Gabor
Gabor
August 25, 2024 9:13 pm

John H.
August 25, 2024 8:59 pm

Reply to  dover0beach

The inflation and interest rate figures I saw were from the Central Bank of Russia. If we all have is conjecture why are you so vigorously arguing your case?

We survived higher interest rates under Keating, in peacetime.
Why do you think the Russians won’t?

I am pushing no barrows here, but others seem to be pro or against for no valid reason other than personal for some, or just because being contrary.

Both China and Russia in one or other political form have been around for a long time.
To a shorter time so is the US, if I were to bet on a major upheaval or even disintegration I’d tip the US as the most likely candidate.

Arky
August 25, 2024 9:19 pm
Gabor
Gabor
August 25, 2024 9:22 pm

Arky

August 25, 2024 8:06 pm

Countries usually delay elections when they’re in the process of being invaded.

So that’s not unusual.

If I recall the UK and AUS did have elections during war time.
Probably a lot of others as well.

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