Open Thread – Weekend 31 Aug 2024


Barden Tower, John Atkinson Grimshaw, late 1800s

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Diogenes
Diogenes
September 1, 2024 6:48 am

No, BoN. Not you. The government. This is planning authority done by an AI that has been read solely copies of dystopian SF.

I’ve heard of this proposal from friends on the Central Coast. One jokingly said they will use this to justify the Sydney-Newcastle VFT.

calli
calli
September 1, 2024 6:51 am

Thanks Tom. Sadly no one did a Raygun/Kamal interview meme. There’s a Presbyterian joke in there too.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:54 am

Will The Biden-Harris Administration Allow the World’s Leading State Sponsor of Terrorism to Acquire Nuclear Weapons?

  • Iran’s regime that has also repeatedly vowed to annihilate the State of Israel and the United States— after that, presumably, the oil-rich Gulf states. Iran already controls five other countries in the region: Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq. There are flashing neon signs that Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini’s dream of “exporting the Revolution” is steadily extending to America’s backyard. Latin American rogue states allied with Iran could potentially be transformed into nuclear-armed threats.

What will the world do if HAMAS ‘acquires’ a nuke and detonates it over Tel Aviv?

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
September 1, 2024 7:39 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

Probably watch on in amazement with the Mad Mullahs when they see Iran turn to glass along with Lebanon, Syria and a few other gulf states.

In reality, if it gets to that stage, there may be a quite significant event happening that will make them realise their Mahdi is not coming but the true and living God is.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
September 1, 2024 11:39 am

I am always amused when I see this type of “argument” put forward. It reflects the short sightedness of the purveyor, who appears to be living in 1967 or 1973 still.

The situation in the Middle East has changed, drastically.

Do you really believe, that other players in the region, will simply sit back and say, “oh, ….., fair cop!”

Three nukes end Israel, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Dimona.
Turkey, (through Pakistan) and Russia will certainly reply to any “glassing”.
China, already deploying Naval assets to the region, will would certainly assist, though probably not with nukes.

It is indeed possible, that Bibi Pfizer will go down the road of “Total Destruction” of Israel. We shall see.
Anyone who is not insane however, hopes that more prudent heads will prevail.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
September 2, 2024 8:09 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

Hold a demonstration blaming the Israelis.

Bungonia bee
Bungonia bee
September 1, 2024 6:57 am

As I have said before, the USA may be beyond saving because there are too many bad actors in too many places. This post from Gateway pundit is illustrative.
“A complaint filed with the Wisconsin Elections Commission says a town in Rusk County is breaking the law by refusing to make voting machines available to voters with disabilities. Despite a warning from the U.S. Department of Justice, the town allegedly conducted the August primary election using only hand-counted, paper ballots. 
The complaint filed by Disability Rights Wisconsin says the Town of Thornapple violated the federal Help America Vote Act by not making electronic voting machines available to people with disabilities during the April and August primaries.”

Bungonia bee
Bungonia bee
September 1, 2024 6:59 am
m0nty
m0nty
September 1, 2024 6:59 am

Is he stupid? Nope, he’s not, but it’s certainly a blind spot when it comes to imposing across the board tariffs.

Blind spot, huh. A more likely explanation, JC, is that Trump is bullshitting, and doesn’t care if he is right or wrong, just that he likes the sounds coming out of his mouth.

What’s extremely stupid is the idea of taxing unrealised capital gains as it would literally bankrupt the US. That’s the policy you support.

The policy you reference kicks in at $100 million. Anyone actually impacted by this proposed tax has money to burn. My heart does not bleed for them.

calli
calli
September 1, 2024 7:01 am

Happy Fathers’ Day to all Daddy Cats.

First one without mine. I do miss him.

Pogria
Pogria
September 1, 2024 7:26 am
Reply to  calli

Bless, Calli.
I was just thinking of my dad.
He died in January, 1977.
Will have a toast for all Dads today. 😀

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 8:07 am
Reply to  calli

65th without mine.
I don’t miss him.

Enyaw
Enyaw
September 1, 2024 9:04 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

60th without mine. I remember Him often.

Beertruk
September 1, 2024 7:03 am

Bruce of Newcastle
 September 1, 2024 6:31 am

Weird how NSW police having lost respect of the public is now having big problems getting recruits.

The ADF is having the same problems.

DEI in the recruiting policy is a shambles.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 1, 2024 8:27 am
Reply to  Beertruk

Mate tells me infantry is beyond critical at all lower ranks than staff grade. They have a surplus of WO1’s and senior officers though.

Despite the shortages they are also from what he hears culling older SNCO’s by putting them to ceiling rank or putting them to Med Boards for minor ailments. A lot of these guys have served on battlefields in ME and a sizable amount have kept current by accepting postings to battalions/schools/Combat training centres.

This why I don’t think conflict is imminent or that if it happens we will be involved in any significant capacity anyway.

Beertruk
September 1, 2024 10:02 am
Reply to  Rockdoctor

A few weeks ago in a conversation with a still serving WO1, a mate of his in recruiting had gone to rural schools to get school kids to sign up for a gap year in the Army. Got 40 keen school boys all signed up ready to go only to be told ‘you will have to tell them all that they wont be going because we are getting 40 school girls to go instead.’

Also in same conversation, there is a special category for ‘single mothers’ to join the Army. 8am to 16:00 hours Monday to Friday and time off to helicopter kids to and from school/daycare, medical appointments and if the kids get sick. No night or weekend night duties and no deployments. They are eligible for promotion courses however. None of this is available for single dads. The military males have to pickup the slack for this crap.

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Zatara
Zatara
September 1, 2024 11:30 am
Reply to  Beertruk

Cuck Generals who sold their souls for their rank offering their soldiers up for sacrifice at civilian political show trials for “war crimes” will do that.

Every. Single. Time.

That was absolutely unbelievable, and unforgivable. Maybe they can explain why the ADF even has a “Military Justice System” if they refuse to be responsible enough to use it for the purpose it was designed.

It’s called a Court Martial sir. Look it up.

Oh, and the powers that be knew exactly what they were doing when they started crucifying SAS members and VC holders loudly and publicly. Them whining about recruitment numbers now is a sham.

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 7:13 am

Happy Fathers’ Day to all Daddy Cats.

Indeed, but I don’t and won’t wish Happy Father’s Day to fathers who are Nazis.

Gabor
Gabor
September 1, 2024 7:14 am

The policy you reference kicks in at $100 million. Anyone actually impacted by this proposed tax has money to burn. My heart does not bleed for them.

Even if it kicks in at a billion, how do you pay it and get it back if the value goes down?
And pay it yearly if the market is going up, soon there is no value left.

You just invested in a property in Ballarat, are you ready to pay this tax?
I don’t think you have thought this through.

m0nty
m0nty
September 1, 2024 7:27 am
Reply to  Gabor

If you own more than $100 million in assets, I don’t want to hear whining about how you are a poor downtrodden victim of the system. That way lies the guillotine.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 1, 2024 8:20 am
Reply to  m0nty

If you think that the level won’t drop over time until everyone with property is caught by it, you have not been watching.

Or you are even more stupid than you usually seem.

Digger
Digger
September 1, 2024 7:20 am

No power for us here in Tassie since yesterday afternoon. Not expected back until at least tomorrow afternoon. One of our two generators for electric fences and water shut down overnight so trying to sort that out. No end in sight to the current weather event. Fun to be had in the world of renewables…

Pogria
Pogria
September 1, 2024 7:36 am

Father’s Day.
Much celebrating and fun to be had.
BUT!!!
Here is a list of activities that are frowned upon, especially from the aged Cat Dads. You know who you are. 😀 😀 😀

https://x.com/TheLtColUSMC/status/1829485631518736793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1829485631518736793%7Ctwgr%5Eacdc62f472ca7dcd6b72c79d66f13f02b86f5842%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Face.mu.nu%2F

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 7:38 am

That way lies the guillotine.

Please note how our resident Nazi is advocating violence towards those who might have/own more than he does.

Pogria
Pogria
September 1, 2024 7:44 am

One more tribute for Dads today.
A musical piece. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngqqfHPTrHo&t=132s

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 1, 2024 7:49 am

At 8pm last night I posted a full article which is now in today’s Herald Sun.

Headline is :
“Children to be asked pronouns at libraries under new taxpayer funded guidelines”.

Good to see the readers of HS are giving it the comments it deserves with nearly 300 so far.

If you live in VIC might want to think about commenting at HS, contacting MP’s or your local library as this is going to affect your families.

Hopefully Peta Credlin, Rita Panahi, Andrew Bolt, 3AW etc go to town on this story and it gets national attention.

Bazinga
Bazinga
September 1, 2024 8:41 am
Reply to  Bourne1879

Anyone asks, train your children to reply “fcuk of paedo”

Bazinga
Bazinga
September 1, 2024 8:41 am
Reply to  Bazinga

Off

cohenite
September 1, 2024 7:51 am

The policy you reference kicks in at $100 million. Anyone actually impacted by this proposed tax has money to burn. My heart does not bleed for them.

It’s because you have no dick.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 8:16 am
Reply to  cohenite

The idiot hasn’t worked out that just because it’s $100 million this year, doesn’t mean it won’t be $50 million next year, and $10 million the year after.
It won’t be too long before the goose being plucked for feathers starts squawking very loudly.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 1, 2024 8:22 am
Reply to  cohenite

And no blood with which to harden the dick, even if he did have one.

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 8:06 am

If you live in VIC might want to think about commenting at HS, contacting MP’s or your local library as this is going to affect your families.

Except those local MPs generally do nothing, castrated by a fatal combination of weakness, supineness and being too scared to rock the political boat.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 1, 2024 8:31 am

Exactly Cassie family members of mine are in both East Bendigo and Euroa. East Bendigo is a write off but the ones in Euroa reckon Annabelle Cleeland is even more useless than Steph Ryan was. Doesn’t answer correspondence, does nothing and is completely invisible unless the local Ag Shows are on.

Megan
Megan
September 1, 2024 10:53 am

And in the case of Labor, you will vote as you are instructed to do.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 1, 2024 8:15 am

Even if it kicks in at a billion, how do you pay it and get it back if the value goes down?

Businesses drive the economy: they make the products we buy, they provide the jobs and salaries for products? They pay taxes and the people they employ pay taxes – and the government still groans about the private sector not contributing its ‘fair share’ – an infantile turn of phrase more appropriate to a primary school dealing out lollies from a bag.

The people complaining that businesses do not pay their ‘fair share’ produce no wealth. They harvest taxes from businesses and the people they employ and give it to their own dependents in the public service and welfare class – while styling themselves as businesses with ‘clients’, ‘CEOs’, ‘investment’ etc.

Sure there are some things government must do, but that justifiable mission has long since been far exceeded. A bloated, ravenous, sclerotic, unwieldy monster that complains that those that keep it alive are not doing enough.

what do they really think will happen when they carve out $550 billion from profits? Well the next year the haul will go down because of the reduction in investment and lower risk business decisions. Next year there will be less.

However the schemes for how the government will spend money will not decrease. In fact they will grow, a new shortfall will emerge.

Guess how they will combat that.

local oaf
September 1, 2024 8:16 am

Happy Fathers Day

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Boambee John
Boambee John
September 1, 2024 8:17 am

mUnturd at 0659 comes out as a full blown communist, albeit one who owns investment properties and is a Kulak running a business.

If he seems confused, it is because he demonstrably is.

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:23 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:25 am
Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 8:25 am

Oh dear…

Has monty been feeding the crocodile again?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 1, 2024 8:38 am
Reply to  Roger

Given both his bodily and financial (two investment properties, plus own home, plus superannuation, plus business) corpulence, he is unlikely to be successful.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 1, 2024 8:48 am
Reply to  Boambee John

Good morning mUnturd, thanks for reading.

132andBush
132andBush
September 1, 2024 11:12 am
Reply to  Roger

Odd new phrase to describe “masturbating”, Roger, but it fits in this case.

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:27 am

Without Israel’s knowledge? Apart from anything else, there was a serious breakdown in intelligence.
6000 terrorists infiltrated Israel: The real numbers behind the October 7th attack

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:30 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:32 am

WATCH Kamala’s Pastor Talk About Destruction of America
“Greed, bigotry and too many whites with this evil, brutal system, built the American economy”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 8:34 am

More sneaky business from the Vicco government.

‘Dodgiest deal’: Getaway star Catriona Rowntree fumes over renewables project next door (1 Sep)

Catriona Rowntree has slammed the Victorian government over “secretive” plans to build a massive renewable energy battery project next to her farm southwest of Melbourne.

The Getaway presenter, 53, is furious about the proposal to build batteries and solar panels on 770 hectares of land in Little River at the base of the You Yangs Regional Park, just outside Geelong, saying locals were blindsided by the plans and fear it poses a fire risk.

“You are about to learn what many of us across the state of Victoria are being blindsided with — that is in an attempt to go green, we are losing our green,” she told followers on Instagram ahead of an appearance on the ABC.

Rowntree later told the broadcaster the state government was trying to “sneak through” the proposal “and the council did not know”.

“I’m feeling like the canary in the coal mine,” she told ABC Melbourne radio host Raf Epstein. “If you don’t know something’s happening, how can you object? That’s what happened to us.” …

Rowntree, a long-time presenter on the Channel 9 travel program, spoke at Tuesday night’s Geelong Council meeting to voice her concerns about the Sandy Creek Road project, saying she had only found out through press reports days earlier.

“It is currently on prime agricultural land and historically, this property in a fire corridor,” she said, the Geelong Advertiser reported.

I suspect she has a lot of followers, so I hope she keeps on writing about this stupid project.

Megan
Megan
September 1, 2024 8:58 am

It’s different when it’s your backyard that affected, eh Catriona?

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 10:49 am
Reply to  Megan

Damn straight, Megan. I haven’t heard her complaining before. Mind you, “Where is Catriona Rowntree” isn’t listed in my 1,000 favorite search terms.

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:35 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:38 am

Supporting free speech should be a given. How have we reached a point where it needs to be justified?
The Influence of Gunther Eagleman: How This Prominent MAGA Voice is Shaping Discourse on X

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:39 am
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 10:55 am
Reply to  Indolent

40 million is the number of Americans that the Weatherman Leader admitted would need to go into the Re-Education/Concentration Camps in the 70’s when he was interviewed on TV.

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:41 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 8:42 am
Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 8:43 am

I suspect she has a lot of followers, so I hope she keeps on writing about this stupid project.

Mmm…she wants it moved further up the road to a disused quarry site.

So, it’s not an in principle objection to the renewables scam.

It’s more…’Not next to my farm!’

Probably votes Teal.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 8:54 am
Reply to  Roger

A quarry would be better than farmland at least.

Amazing how Lock The Gate has mysteriously vanished from the political landscape lately.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 9:10 am

A quarry would be better than farmland at least.

As Gez has detailed, our stupid governments don’t care.

On a brighter note, in north QLD some genuine conservationists have had victories in the courts against the government and renewables grifters and managed to reduce or halt a couple of large projects in rainforests.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 1, 2024 9:06 am
Reply to  Roger

Exactly my thoughts too. Though Rountree keeps her politics to herself from what I can google which is a rarity for celeb’s.

I have however watched her new show a couple of times. Oozes pretentiousness, I’d agree this is more a NIMBY than objection to these monstrosities that fleece that tax payer.

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 8:47 am

Fatboy

Trump has been warning about American trade since the 90/s. And he’s been consistent.

The proposed tax on unrealised gains is purely envy driven. Not all assets are publicly listed and it would be a total nightmare in the private markets. You fat lesbian.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
September 1, 2024 11:48 am
Reply to  JC

How long until Uncle Mario and dim Jim think this is a good idea?

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 1, 2024 8:49 am

In a Peta Credlin piece in the Telegraph. He has zero phucks about this country as the article will describe.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 8:51 am

Why VPN?
The government can break into any system they want to, so why bother?
I was considering getting a VPN subscription but honestly can’t justify it.
I keep getting scammer emails, but not opening them seems more cost effective than a VPN subscription.
Still tossing it up but what are the costs and benefits?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 9:00 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

Some videos and sites, like Blazing Cat Fur, have been geoblocked – the latter by Telstra and Optus. By using a VPN they don’t know what url you are trying to visit, so they can’t block it.

It’s also a neat way to fox the personalized ad stuff, especially from Goolag. I dislike Goolag collecting masses of information about who I am.

A VPN doesn’t do anything about scam emails – that’s because they have your email address in their database.

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 1, 2024 10:03 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

Anyone who asks “why VPN?” needs one.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 11:07 am
Reply to  alwaysright

My searches on the web prove to me that the only people who say that, alwaysright, are the ones who want to sell me one.

mizaris
mizaris
September 1, 2024 11:26 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

Surfshark – $60 ish for 2 years.

Rabz
September 1, 2024 8:57 am

Explanation for JC – the goil has rather bushy eyebrows.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 8:59 am

I imagine quite a few Brits are now wishing they’d turned out to vote:

Keir Starmer has broken a pre-election promise and scrapped the winter fuel allowance for millions of pensioners as part of an austerity drive to plug a £22 billion “black hole” in the government’s exchequer account at the Bank of England.

But at the same time he’s also found £12 billion to donate to international climate aid.

132andBush
132andBush
September 1, 2024 11:17 am
Reply to  Roger

Democracy, good and hard.

Crossie
Crossie
September 1, 2024 12:04 pm
Reply to  Roger

He needs the money for all those millions of “asylum” seekers who have precedence over old Brits.

John Brumble
John Brumble
September 1, 2024 7:24 pm
Reply to  Roger

Exactly how would it have been any different under the other mob?

another ian
another ian
September 1, 2024 9:01 am

Uses for a VPN

FWIW – In Brasil vs Musk

“Mischief Is Important”

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Millions of people around the world are setting their VPNs to
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Black Ball
Black Ball
September 1, 2024 9:10 am

Peta Credlin:

Consider the big recent moves by the Albanese government. It’s blocked a $1 billion gold mine with a thousand jobs on the basis of secret Aboriginal cultural business – which the official Indigenous representatives say is fictitious. It’s allowed industry-wide bargaining (and strikes), told workers they don’t have to take their bosses’ calls after hours, and made casual work (with its higher pay) more precarious. It has allowed our hospitals to run critically low in essential IV fluids needed for surgery.

Plus, it’s given 3000 people from a terrorist-controlled war zone the right to come to Australia without any serious security vetting.

What sort of government does that?

As Australians, at different times, we’ve prided ourselves on being “the clever country” or “the Lucky Country”. Maybe we still are clever, as a people; and, sure, as a nation, we’re blessed in a way that many other countries are not. But there’s nothing clever about a government that’s eroding our national security, sapping our economic strength and damaging our social cohesion. And sooner or later, with a dumb enough government, even the most fortunate country in the world will run out of luck. As businessman Gerry Harvey warned on Friday, the Lucky Country is being ruined by excessive costs for energy, compliance and regulation.

It’s hard to credit that a relatively new government could get so much so wrong so quickly. But, contrary to the Prime Minister’s pre-election assurances that he represented “safe change”, a great deal has changed, nearly all of it for the worse.

Last Friday, the usually sensible Resources Minister Madeleine King unleashed a huge spray against Australia’s largest corporate taxpayer after BHP had the temerity to complain about a $1.3bn hit to their cost base thanks to the government’s assault on labour hire firms whose workers are rarely unionised.

Then there was the Treasurer Jim Chalmers. Instead of a speech to a big think tank, outlining what Labor might do to address out-of-control government spending, improve sagging productivity, and avoid the energy train wreck, he chose to pursue an undergraduate attack on Peter Dutton, labelling him not just “divisive” but “dangerous”, and of using a “dog whistle” on race. Meanwhile, Chalmers continues to use record high immigration to artificially maintain overall economic growth despite the fact that, in per capita terms, we’ve been negative for five quarters and there’s an acute lack of housing for half a million newcomers every year.

But it’s the government’s failure to deliver its promised cut in power bills of $275 per household per year that remains its most enduring demonstration of incompetence. Two years ago, Energy Minister Chris Bowen said that the “energy transition” would require the installation of 22,000 new solar panels every single day, and 40 large wind turbines every single month, until 2030 – plus at least 10,000km of transmission lines.

Nothing like this is happening yet the minister insists that “there’s nothing to see here” despite repeated warnings of looming blackouts and brownouts as reliable coal-fired power stations continue to close and gas is routinely demonised. Meanwhile, the government tolerates the green activist law-fare designed to shut down the fossil fuel exports on which much of our prosperity depends.

At “bush summit” meetings held around the country last week, locals complained about what the so-called green revolution was doing to their farming properties and communities. The government’s emission obsession is all upside for the inner-city voters whose piddly rooftop solar panels subsidise their power bills but don’t interrupt their views. While regional Australia is told they must be blanketed in thousands of hectares of large-scale solar, and native forests are felled for wind-turbines. And then there’s the massive transmission towers being forced on people’s land to take renewables power from the regions to the cities.

It used to be Labor’s war on our prosperity that disqualified them as a credible party of government. Bad though that is, it’s not as serious as the visas for votes scheme, where the Albanese government has issued tourist visas to people from a place where two-thirds of the population support terrorist group Hamas: without any due process, without security advice, and without, even, any formal announcement. For a fortnight now, the government has refused to say that supporting Hamas makes someone ineligible to come here on character grounds.

Gaza is a place where people have been schooled from early infancy that Jews should be killed and that the West is evil. Almost no one who comes here from Gaza will ever go back. But the notion that everyone Albanese has let in could sincerely make the Australian citizenship pledge is deeply implausible. After all, new citizens are required to declare their allegiance to a country “whose democratic beliefs I share” and “whose rights and liberties I respect”. How many pro-Hamas Gazans could credibly pledge that?

When even Egypt and Jordan refuse to take in Gazans on security grounds, why on earth should we?

A Group One track record of incompetence and wilful destruction.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 9:45 am
Reply to  Black Ball

Great rant!

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 9:13 am

Starmer is more proof that politics attracts psychopaths.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 9:55 am
Reply to  Miltonf

He certainly doesn’t seem to have any qualms about breaking promises.

Meanwhile, old footage of him as Crown Prosecutor has emerged in which he explains why, in a democracy, a high threshold for prosecuting cases that involve free speech must be maintained.

I’m beginning to think he can’t be trusted (sarc).

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 12:02 pm
Reply to  Roger

He’s a shiver looking for a back to run up and down.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 1, 2024 9:17 am

Credlin again on the people monty detests, real women and the Tickle judgement:

I’ve now had the time to read carefully the sixty-page federal court judgment from Justice Robert Bromwich in the case of Tickle versus Giggle, a claim of unlawful discrimination when a females-only online App excluded a biological man who’d had gender reassignment surgery.

It’s clear that Gillard-era changes to the Sex Discrimination Act, billed as no more than “ending discrimination for LGBTIQ people”, have actually ended-up stealing hard-won gains for women and girls to have a “room of one’s own”.

That’s because “gender identity” was added as a ground of unlawful discrimination: Defined as “the gender-related identity, appearance or mannerisms or other gender-related characteristics of a person (whether by way of medical intervention or not), with or without regard to the person’s designated sex at birth”.

Finding in Tickle’s favour, it is sufficient, the judge said that “Ms Tickle is recorded as being female on her updated Queensland birth certificate for her to be, at law, of the female sex”.

No. “Gender” might be something you can decide based on how you want to identify but sex is a matter of biological fact. You either have the XX chromosomes that define your sex as a woman or you do not, and no amount of hormones, surgery or birth certificate updates can change that.

With his judgment, we’re in uncharted territory where Gillard-era changes are trying to undo science because a vociferous and aggressive trans lobby is demanding that biological males claiming to be women should be allowed in our single-sex spaces. This makes a mockery of female equality.

Did this come about because MPs debated the issue and decided that anyone who claims to be a woman really is a woman; or because this question was openly put to voters and decided by an election or at a referendum?

Of course not. What we are saddled with now is something that’s been insinuated into law by stealth and parliament must now fix this mistake.

MatrixTransform
September 1, 2024 11:11 am
Reply to  Black Ball

they’re all mental

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 1, 2024 9:24 am

Is this your idea of a woman monty? You insufferable idiot.
Why the hell would Mr Tickle want to go to ladies only chat rooms, no doubt these women would be late teens/early 20s? What in common does this arsehole have in to talk about with these women? The weather, actions of government?

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hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 1, 2024 10:21 am
Reply to  Black Ball

She wants to chat with you little girl, Monty.

MatrixTransform
September 1, 2024 11:11 am
Reply to  Black Ball

expecially mental

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 12:05 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

Did anyone find a gofundme page for the girls to fight this decision?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 9:26 am

Always fun when the antisemitic Left is insufficiently antisemitic for the antisemites…whereupon the antisemites flock to the Greens instead.

Kamala Harris tied with Green Party candidate Jill Stein among Muslim voters, damning poll reveals (31 Aug)

A poll of 1,159 Muslims released Thursday by the Council on American-Islamic Relations shows Harris and Stein tied at 29%, with 11% of the cohort’s support going to Donald Trump, 4% to Cornel West, and 1% to Libertarian Chase Oliver. A significant 9% say they aren’t voting.

It’s been amazingly revealing to see how the Greens have turned into actual Nazis like this. And how many of the population actually support them.

Beertruk
September 1, 2024 9:40 am

Black Ball
September 1, 2024 9:24 am

If that thing according to the law is allowed to pass and/or identify as a woman, it is one horrid looking woman.

DNA/chromosome test it to remove all doubt.

bons
bons
September 1, 2024 9:41 am

I long held the view that prosecuting women for having sex with under age boys was a nonsense.

I was wrong. Macron demonstrates that the negative effects can be severe and long lasting.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 1, 2024 9:50 am

The problem is that in Qld you can now claim to be other sex and they will give you a new birth certificate to confirm identity. That then leads to passports. You can even change back again.

However the Tickle case has been on the boil for a while. Would be interesting to get a date on when the birth certificate was issued as I thought the legislation was fairly recent. Did she have it when she lodged her complaint?

“Finding in Tickle’s favour, it is sufficient, the judge said that “Ms Tickle is recorded as being female on her updated Queensland birth certificate for her to be, at law, of the female sex”.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 12:12 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

I’m going to identify as asteroid 16 Psyche, and I’m going to charge NASA to land on me.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
September 1, 2024 5:02 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

The passport could get you into a world of hurt o/s if you have to answer questions or be searched……

Delta A
Delta A
September 1, 2024 6:58 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

Tickle is a man. Don’t apply feminine pronouns to him.

Bill P
Bill P
September 1, 2024 10:04 am

Listening to the Kamala word salad, it brought back memories of the 1958 party political speech by Peter Sellers.

Life imitates art.

.. My friends, in the light of present-day developments let me say right away that I do not regard existing conditions likely. On the contrary, I have always regarded them as subjects of the gravest responsibility and shall ever continue to do so. Indeed, I will go further and state quite categorically that I am more than sensible of the (exact) definition of the precise issues which are at this very moment concerning us all. We must build, but we must build surely. Hear, hear! – Let me say just this: If any part of what I am saying is challenged, then I am more than ready to meet such a challenge. For I have no doubt whatsoever that whatever I may have said in the past, or what I am saying now, is the exact, literal and absolute truth as to the state (?) of the case. – Hear, hear! -I put it to you that this is not the time for vague promises of better things to come. For, if I were to convey to you a spirit of false optimism, then I should be neither fair to you nor true to myself. But does this mean, I hear you cry, that we can no longer look forward to the future that is to come? Certainly not! Voice from the audience: What about the workers? “What about the workers?”; indeed sir! Grasp, I beseech you, with both hands [Aside: I’m so sorry, I beg your pardon, madam.] the opportunities that are offered. Let us assume a bold front and go forward together. Let us carry the fight [noise of a blow being struck] against ignorance to the four corners of the earth because it is a fight which concerns us all. Now, finally my friends, in conclusion, let me say just this: [BIG SILENCE !!!]

Worth a listen.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 10:05 am

The problem is that in Qld you can now claim to be other sex and they will give you a new birth certificate to confirm identity. That then leads to passports.

The LNP will rush to reverse this legislation when they form government.

Cough.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 1, 2024 10:11 am

Roger,
Sadly I agree with your “cough”.
Crisafulli does not inspire me with confidence.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 1, 2024 10:12 am

I think there’s more to the story than we are being told. I have come across little harassment on mine sites and camps. If anything some camps are like Melrose Park! The worst I have seen was the possible soliciting of Phillo cleaners in a non affiliated camp at Moranbah and that was never 1st hand just from the signs put up warning guests not to do.

If anything the pendulum has swung so far the other way giants like BHP are entertaining frivolous complaints these days and stories like the daily mail article still being written with no proof, just one sides word:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13779479/FIFO-Brooke-McIntosh-sexual-harassment.html

Personally like a lot of women who try FIFO mining it wasn’t for her and she needed a face saving way out.

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 10:13 am

@MakisMD

NEW ARTICLE: IVERMECTIN should be given to ALL Advanced Breast Cancer patients – outperforms chemo Paclitaxel and kills Cancer Stem Cells!

A 2017 bombshell study by Mexican researchers should have changed how Breast Cancer is treated. Forever.

In the 2017 paper “Ivermectin as an inhibitor of Cancer Stem Cells”, researchers from Mexico City take on a theory that Ivermectin could annihilate Breast Cancer Stem Cells.

How long has it been known that Ivermectin can be used to treat cancer? Since 1996!

What are Cancer Stem Cells?

“Although the largest cell burden of a tumor is formed by the so-called bulk tumor cells, a small subpopulation of cells within the tumor has recently been identified, which presents a stem cell phenotype, due to the similarities to these cells have been called “cancer stem-like cells” (CSCs)”

This cell population generally has the characteristic of unlimited self-renew” and is responsible for metastasis and recurrence

In 2009, MIT and Harvard researchers discovered that an anti-parasitic, Salinomycin, could reduce Breast Cancer Stem Cells by more than 100 fold compared to chemotherapy paclitaxel (Taxol), and inhibit breast tumor growth.

The Mexican researchers in this study searched for the molecule most resembling Salinomycin and after searching 1623 compounds, they found it – it was IVERMECTIN!

Ivermectin preferentially inhibits the viability of Cancer Stem Cell – enriched populations compared with the total cell population. The opposite pattern was observed with paclitaxel treatment.”

Ivermectin also decreased expression of three “stemness genes” reported to be highly expressed in Cancer Stem Cells.

CONCLUSION: “In conclusion, results from the present study demonstrated that ivermectin preferentially targeted the stem cell population in MDA-MB-231 human breast cancer cells.

Ivermectin has been demonstrated to be safe, following treatment of millions of patients with onchocerciasis and other parasitic diseases, which makes it a strong candidate for further studies investigating its potential use as a repurposed drug for cancer therapy.”

The implications are staggering.

1. Ivermectin outperforms chemotherapy (paclitaxel)

2. Ivermectin destroys Cancer Stem Cells which are responsible for Cancer Treatment failure, metastasis and breast cancer recurrence.

3. Ivermectin destroys Cancer Stem Cells at a rate of over 100 fold compared to chemotherapy

4. Ivermectin also downregulates expression of “stemness genes” which are highly expressed in Cancer Stem Cells.

Bottom line: Every Advanced Breast Cancer patient should get Ivermectin to eliminate Cancer Stem Cells and reduce the risks of treatment failure, metastases and recurrence.

So why don’t they? I think we all know the answer.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 1, 2024 12:12 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Wot! Giving horse medicine to cancer patients? Appalling! //Sarc//

Tom
Tom
September 1, 2024 10:16 am

Worth a listen.

Thankfully, the Peter Sellers “party political speech” is available in all its satirical glory on Youtube.com.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 2, 2024 7:49 pm
Reply to  Tom

I grew up with the LP Best Of Sellers, and of course The Goon Show on radio.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 1, 2024 10:26 am

Dr, I don’t know where the idea that Brown was only a tree hugger and not a communist comes from. Brown was always a communist pos. I wouldn’t be splitting hairs in trying to distinguish between Brown and the Bandt.

Brown was (and still is) a serious front and centre environmental activist. Those credentials, combined with his odd gentle outward persona, helped mainstream the Greens by appealing to people who somehow thought that a Senate vote might send a message which would lead to a nicer, cleaner environment – the so-called ‘doctors’ wives vote’.

Bandt, on the other hand, is a caricature hardline urban Marxist, career industrial activist, and all round dead shit. Like the rest of his pack, he wouldn’t know a Thylacene if one bit his arse – although the environment is occasionally a convenient hat to wear in pursuit of other goals.

While the likes of Bandt would never have got the Greens off the ground 30 years ago, in the present era of grievance and identity politics, it appears he is able to haul in young voters, grab agendas, and drive the Greens into third force position. From where the little fakir can cause massive damage.

Simply lumping Brown and Bandt together in the ‘communist POS’ bucket probably doesn’t give a complete picture of what is going on.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 1, 2024 10:28 am

It really really bothers me that hundreds of erstwhile sensible normal bright librarians all over Victoria are suddenly having to turn into gender evangelists around little children. Surely some of them will resign in protest. Or, as with the military and the police, there will be over time a failure to recruit to the profession.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 10:32 am
Reply to  hzhousewife

I expect most will fail to ask the question of any child not showing overt signs of gender confusions.

Non-compliance is the usual result of such silliness.

Megan
Megan
September 1, 2024 10:49 am

Yes, I’d be one of those simply ignoring the command from on high.

But then, for me, t’was ever thus. Idiot orders require total disobedience.

Megan
Megan
September 1, 2024 10:49 am
Reply to  Megan

…or outright cunning.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 12:26 pm

When recruiting for a position, the recruiters will ask the future librarian if they would ask the question/conform to the rule.
You can be assured the people asking that question will take very careful note of the answer, and they will not be randomly picked either.
Entryism – the technique that fills employment positions with just the ‘right’ people, and now filling positions in your local police force.

See how that works?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 10:30 am

“The Call to Action was a strong presentation particularly by Nadine Taylor former UK head of Fathers4Justice – I only wish I were younger but nonetheless I intend help wherever I can.”

Tinta and others interested in this issue, in reply to your comment earlier today I have briefly added my own experiences in seeking justice long ago for my son in his custody battles. I too will help where I can.

Bill P
Bill P
September 1, 2024 10:32 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 1, 2024 10:39 am

“It really really bothers me that hundreds of erstwhile sensible normal bright librarians all over Victoria are suddenly having to turn into gender evangelists”

I think we might see a certain type gravitating towards working in libraries. Naturally it will be considered discrimination to comment negatively towards any staff member who follows the guidelines and asks kids their pronouns.

Expect more drag story time events.

VIC has to fight back on this issue so it does not spread.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 10:54 am
Reply to  Bourne1879

Parents have a role here. If they stay silent, then they are complicit.

So are teachers and teacher librarians.

mem
mem
September 1, 2024 11:12 am
Reply to  Bourne1879

What could go wrong? Libraries will become fishing/phishing grounds for predators.The names, contacts and locations of vulnerable prey will then be leaked and circulated to the creepy rock spiders.

cohenite
September 1, 2024 10:39 am

Muzzies starting to flex their inbred muscles:

Muslim Votes Matter’s election warning to Labor ahead of national launch | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

The liars and the filth have sponsored the influx of inbred muzzies believing they could control the rabid monsters. But just like everywhere else in the world where leftoids have imported muzzie vote herds eventually when a Peter Hammond threshold occurs the designated muzzie victims turns on the leftoids. This first happened when the iranian leftoids led the charge to get rid of the Shah and ushered in the mad mullahs. The first ones on the execution block were the trade unionists, academics and media fukwits who had opposed the Shah.

The West is being destroyed before our eyes by leftoids.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 12:34 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Cohenite, the Iranian Revolution was almost funny in a Ceausescu sort of way.
The Iranian Wukkas Party (MEK) was invited to many, many, Victory Banquets by the Mullahs after the Shah left town.
To their short lived consternation, the first gifts were bullets where the ‘Godless Communists’ were slaughtered in their thousands in multiple locations.
Then the food was served.
Had the GC read history instead of making it, they’d have realised this was a favourite Islamic practice when an enemy was defeated.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 10:39 am

Brown was always a communist pos.

The genuine Marxist Bandt called Brown’s Greens bourgeois.

That was before he joined the party in a classic instance of entryism.

Brown was a useful idiot, not a Communist.

His erstwhile party has now been captured by the hard left, leaving Brown in his Tasmanian retreat muttering in vain about windmills killing birdlife.

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LB2
LB2
September 1, 2024 10:41 am

Overheard at the Olympics:

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Pogria
Pogria
September 1, 2024 10:51 am
Reply to  LB2

Lol, good one.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 1, 2024 10:43 am

Catriona Rowntree has slammed the Victorian government over “secretive” plans to build a massive renewable energy battery project next to her farm southwest of Melbourne.

BoN
Women in our group have contacted Catriona and she’s keen to help us out.
If you piss off country women there’s a world of pain coming. Get ready Jacinta.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 11:13 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

That’s very good news Gez!

She’s always had a lot of energy, so getting her involved could have very positive results. She’s a widely admired lady also.

shatterzzz
September 1, 2024 11:40 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Bit more to the story, apparently, she doesn’t want it next door to her but is happy for it to be moved a few kms up the road to a disused quarry site ..
One of those “celebrity” do good tales leaving out the self-serving details.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 10:44 am

I’ve never thought that Brown was harmless. One of the earlier Marxist wreckers and meja anti-heros. Could never stand that winey sanctimonious voice either.

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
September 1, 2024 10:49 am

Has any journalist investigated any funding behind the pro Palestinine/pro Hamas protests since Oct 7th? Thousand and thousands of Pali flags professional banners etc.

Those from Inner-West Sydney maybe familiar with the footbridge cyclepath that crosses the M4 at Homebush. When I crossed it on Friday evening going home at peak hour a large Free Palestine banner had been put up on the security fencing above the handrails along with two or more Pali flags. The two activists who manned the protest must have scaled the fence illegally to put it up.

I wonder how these buggers get away with it. As I went past I told them “why don’t you release the hostages?” I’m not much of an interventionist with these things but at least they would’ve heard a dissenting voice.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 10:56 am
Reply to  Titus Groates

Every little bit helps, Titus.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 1, 2024 11:06 am
Reply to  Titus Groates

Pali flag isn’t even from that area, actually stolen design from the defunct Hashemite Kingdom of Hejaz on the western side of the Saudi Peninsula.

The name Palestine has descended from Philistines and was dubbed by the Romans on conquest of the area.

After the British mandate had the attached flag, that has a star of David on and is blue/white…

Our Universities are run by idiots, our Government is run by idiots and of course the foot soldiers are the useful idiots.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 11:15 am
Reply to  Titus Groates

One eighth of zakat is for the irregular fighters.
Multiply that by 2 billion and it’s a lot of available dosh.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 12:39 pm
Reply to  Titus Groates

I wonder how these buggers get away with it?

They get away with it because we let them get away with it.

cohenite
September 1, 2024 10:54 am

I’ve never thought that Brown was harmless. One of the earlier Marxist wreckers and meja anti-heros. Could never stand that winey sanctimonious voice either.

Too much swallowing after sucking dick will do that to your voice.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 1, 2024 11:01 am

Breaking news :
Premier of VIC has run a survey which says VIC welcomes more Gazans.

The 156 Palestinians they surveyed all in favour.

However they don’t support the library initiative.

Annie
Annie
September 1, 2024 4:28 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

156? Out of how many Victorians? They didn’t ask us.

Annie
Annie
September 1, 2024 4:29 pm
Reply to  Annie

Oh, on rereading, I misread. Did they ask any Victorians?

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 11:01 am

I’ve never thought that Brown was harmless.

Nobody said he was harmless.

He just wasn’t a Communist.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 11:11 am

Apropos Bandt and his ilk…

After the collapse of the Soviet Union and other Communist regimes, almost all variants of leftism abandoned [pure] Marxism and gathered under the banner of progressivism, especially in Western countries, where they achieved a powerful influence on policy via democratic elections. Indeed, progressivism is far more insidious than Marxism precisely because it rejects class conflict and bloody revolution and fervently embraces democracy as the true path to the perfection of the human race. Progressives view history as an inevitable onward and upward march to a utopian future, an egalitarian socialist state efficiently run by disinterested bureaucrats, intellectuals, and technocrats.

Despite their predilection for socialism, however, contemporary progressives have learned from the collapse of communism that trying to substitute central planning for the market economy leads to poverty, famine, and economic collapse. They, therefore, propose to retain a truncated market economy that is heavily taxed, regulated, and controlled. Capitalists and entrepreneurs will be subject to a blizzard of orders, decrees, and prohibitions and forced to work to support the state apparatus and its cronies and constituencies. In other words, interventionism, not socialism, is the political economy of progressivism.

…Mises was one of the first to explicitly recognize that all progressives were united in their advocacy of the interventionist economic agenda laid out in The Communist Manifesto. This work was written in 1848, when Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were exhorting their fellow communists to destroy capitalism by “establish[ing] democracy,” and well before they adopted the view that socialism would inevitably supersede capitalism via a bloody proletarian revolution. As Mises pointed out, “It is impossible to understand the mentality and the policy of the Progressives if one does not take into account that the Communist Manifesto is for them both manual and holy writ, the only reliable source of information about mankind’s future as well as the ultimate code of political conduct.”

Joseph T. Salerno, The Misesian, 30 August 2024

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Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 1, 2024 11:11 am

State Libraries in WA have long been populated by otherwise unemployable busybodies, with the Queer Qarens easily rising to boss roles.
They opened doors to Men Dressed As Hags And Simpering To Someone Else’s Kids Story Time, and welcomed them in.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 1, 2024 11:25 am

This one’s for military Cats.

Reading “Vietnam: The Complete Story of the Australian War.”

Task Force Routine Orders, December 1968

“All members leaving the theatre on RTA (Return to Australia) or R and R are to be inspected by an Officer of HQ (Headquarters) 1ATF (Australian Task Force). Any member who is improperly dressed or whose dress is not up to standard will be returned to his unit.” (Page 399)

Getting turned back by some pogo, after twelve months of active service because of crumpled greens or dirty boots……

132andBush
132andBush
September 1, 2024 11:30 am

What in common does this arsehole have in to talk about with these women? The weather, actions of government?

Silly you.
It would be about her penis of course!

Surprised Comrade Montgomery hasn’t pointed this out already.

Pogria
Pogria
September 1, 2024 12:15 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Let’s not forget, the Gimp has today free because his sprogs are spending the day with the Milko.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 12:27 pm
Reply to  132andBush

I think he may have had it off, but there will still be the memories to discuss. And discussion of the new equipment, which he will call a ‘hole’. Erk.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 11:31 am

About VPNs
Ok it looks like Proton is ahead by a bit.
Does this have any interaction problems with Telstra Broadband?
It supposedly will list my location in Switzerland, but I can change it to anywhere, yes?
Do they put any unremovable cookies on my computers? And is this a problem?
Thanks for answers.

shatterzzz
September 1, 2024 11:33 am

Forget all this ballyhoo you read about high inflation it’s just a furphy ..!
Feds have come up with inflation/cost of living is a tick over 2% to be reflected in the OAP September pittance renumeration …….
So NSW “Houso” is gonna cop $7/fn of that .. brings it down to $21 and the bloody phone I had to buy ($100) to go from 3 to 4G takes the 1st 10 weeks increase …… Gonna be in clover by New Year … LOL!

 $28.10 a fortnight for singles, and $42.40 a fortnight for couples.

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MatrixTransform
September 1, 2024 11:33 am

written in 1848, when Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were exhorting their fellow communists to destroy capitalism by “establish[ing] democracy,”

from my understanding, back in the late 1800’s ‘democracy’ didn’t quite have the same meaning it has now.

Had a much more revolutionary tinge

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Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 11:37 am

1848 was the year of failed revolutions.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 11:43 am

And apropos nothing in particular…

During their time in Spandau Prison, former admirals Donitz & Raeder were assigned to work in the library.

When they weren’t checking out books and restacking the shelves, they refought naval battles and criticised each other’s wartime performance.

Their fellow prisoners referred to them sardonically as “the naval department.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 11:57 am

Fish and chips!

Why seagulls don’t want your chips as much as you might think (Phys.org, 31 Aug)

It is virtually impossible to figure out what wild gull parents feed their chicks, and test how this influences their chicks’ food preferences, without causing major disturbance in their breeding colonies.

So we investigated this question with rescued herring gull chicks—ones who had been found on the ground by people and brought into a wildlife rehabilitation facility because they could not be reunited with their parents.

Only chicks that a specialist avian vet confirmed were healthy took part in our study. We made sure their participation did not delay their release back into the wild.

We reared these rescued chicks from when they were about five days old until they were about 25 days old on one of two diets: a “marine” diet of sprats, mackerel and mussels, or a “man-made” diet that consisted of cat food and bread. We chose these diets as they are similar to the opposite extremes of the foods provided by gull parents to their chicks in the wild.

We also gave the chicks the alternative diet 20% of the time. Marine chicks were fed the man-made diet several hours a day, and vice versa, to ensure all chicks were familiar with all the types of food before we tested which they fancied.

To test whether the man-made diet chicks would grow up to prefer the foods they were reared on, rather than the marine prey gulls traditionally forage for, we presented each chick with a smorgasbord of foods when they had been in captivity for five days.

They could choose from a bowl of fish, a bowl of mussels, one with cat food and a bowl with diced bread. We recorded which food the chick pecked at first. We found that almost all of the 27 chicks in our study preferred to eat fish first, and avoided bread. Even chicks that had been reared on cat food and bread still preferred fish.

Seagull luxury! Ok yes, given what is in cat food I can see why they might prefer fresh fish. I would too! On the other hand my experience is that when offered food of any sort they will take it. Food, after all, is better than no food.

Currently vast amounts of bread is being fed to the noisies here at the Cafe, they have lots of chicks. Doesn’t seem to harm them. And the only time I tried to get a seagull to accept food from my hand was with bread – which she took with alacrity. The downside of that exchange was the pelican – who having seen the seagull accepting bread became interested also. She nearly took the skin off my hand: I found out that pelicans have a rasp-like structure inside their beaks. Probably to help hold onto slippery fish, but it wasn’t at all good for my hand.

Anders
Anders
September 1, 2024 12:12 pm

What is the point of this research and who the heck is funding it?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 12:22 pm
Reply to  Anders

I’d say 80-90% of the stuff I see in the science news is completely useless. And all of it is funded by taxpayers. Science is dying.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 12:21 pm

They are probably like us evolved humans, Bruce, and can survive quite well on a highly adaptive diet. Eat what’s around and be glad of it.

MatrixTransform
September 1, 2024 12:57 pm
MatrixTransform
September 1, 2024 12:59 pm

and for fun reading … mega sea gulls with (sort of) teeth

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 1, 2024 12:00 pm

More bad news on Chrisifooli. Apparently if the words of the shadow LG minister are true I don’t see administrators coming to Townsville City Council soon even with our version of Tim Walz as part time Mayor. The council is a basket case too.

Also the new part time mayor has more problems on his plate. CCC now looking into developer donations. This city has had enough of developers fleecing ratepayers with Laurence Lancini having hands out to renew the CBD that no-one frequents let alone more their ilk. I do know the Wagner’s slinking around up this way as well. Guess the stench of developer corruption will be studiously avoided for another government…

I suspect Chrisafooli will get elected and spend 4 years doing nothing only to get rolled in 2028 by whoever comes next.

another ian
another ian
September 1, 2024 12:15 pm

FWIW – not a nice Sunday read on how free speech is going

“DEMOCRACY AND SPEECH ? Saturday, August 31, 2024 ? C&C NEWS ?
Special C&C Freedom Edition: how the globalists hope to capture the 2024 elections and what to do about it.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/democracy-and-speech-saturday-august?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 12:50 pm

We watched all seven half-hour episodes of Baby Reindeer (Netflix recently) last nite in a marathon of immediacy because we didn’t think we’d ever pick it up again if we stalled half way. Yes, it is that difficult, that disturbing. It’s a tale of sadness and loss, obsession, stalking, sexual confusion, anal rape, self-destruction and mental illness, all shot in a slightly off-kilter manner with associated creepy music, whic work well to raise hackles on the back of your neck at the weirdness and pity of it all. Irritating too. Grow up, I say to the hero, half way through. You stupid git, get outta town for a while, adds Hairy.

The actor is the man to whom this stalking happened, the stalking female is superbly portrayed, and apparently the IRL role model for this female character has some serious objections to the depiction. All grist to the mill of it. It had certain resonances to me of Saltburn, another strange movie inflected with the new twist on British eccentricism that seems to be all the rage these days. Plenty of black characters in multi-culti Britain, set in London, but nicely exploiting too the gritty northern context of the hero’s origin. Why do people do these things ( re the stalker) and why doesn’t he just get over himself (the hero)? Well, the explanations are there and you just might be convinced. Or not.

Makka
Makka
September 1, 2024 1:01 pm

I have to believe that there is a special place burning in eternal Hell for this disgusting POS and all the smiling leftard clapping bints around him;

https://x.com/leslibless/status/1829362993705975808

Walz repealed the Minnesota “Born Alive Infants Protection Act,” which would’ve required an infant born alive to be recognized as a human person, that requires all reasonable measures to preserve the born alive infant’s life and health.

Seeing these lib women laugh and clap now that they can watch healthy babies die, is sickening.

If there’s even a lower, darker place than Hell, it’s full!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 1, 2024 1:05 pm

Legendary cartoonist Michael Leunig says it’s ‘embarrassing’ to have been associated with The AgeJames Madden and Sophie Elsworth
6 minutes ago

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Legendary cartoonist Michael Leunig says he’s embarrassed to be associated with The Age newspaper after his 55-year career at the Melbourne masthead was terminated last week.
In what he described as a “throat-cutting exercise”, the 79-year-old said he was left gobsmacked after reading Age editor Patrick Elligett’s subscriber email newsletter on Friday night which said the cartoonist had “filed his last editorial illustration for The Age”.
Although Leunig had received a call from Elligett days earlier to tell him his time was up, the cartoonist was stunned when the editor’s note failed to reference the circumstances of his departure.
“There was no mention of the fact that he (Elligett) gave me the axe,” Leunig told Diary.
“I was expecting it, as I have parted ways with The Age philosophically (and) culturally. I don’t read it really, I just scan it. It’s a sad story because I began there when it was a substantial newspaper. 
“It’s almost embarrassing now to say that I worked for The Age, it’s become like a tacky tabloid.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 1:35 pm

Sad. Leunig may be a lefty but he’s always been consistent. And fairly interesting.

This seems to be another sign that Nine/Fairfax is dying. Booting icons like Leunig as a cost cutting exercise isn’t going to return financial viability. GWGB.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 1, 2024 6:00 pm

Not sure about the actual law but Fauxfacts has been through several rounds of redundancies. Well into the old wood by now.

Jock
Jock
September 1, 2024 1:47 pm

Christ only knows what he reads then. The guardian? The socialist worker. Trans today?

Tom
Tom
September 1, 2024 1:55 pm

I worked with Mick Leunig at The Age for years and we got on well.

I even remember when he drew hilarious cartoons for the left-wing weekly Nation Review (for which I also wrote) in the 1970s.

His cartoons were hilarious, naughty and outrageous — the opposite of the soullesss, humorless, factless leftwing wannabe revolution factory The Age eventually became.

It turns out Leunig was hoping the politburo crocodile would eat him last.

I hope he doesn’t get too melancholy and that his new-found artistic freedom reawakens the creative fire within.

.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 1, 2024 5:57 pm

Would be a certain Top10 for Men who Look Like Old Lesbians.

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
September 1, 2024 8:36 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

Right behind David Marr and Michael Moore.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 1:05 pm

There was that very interesting book from the 90s The Revolt of the Elites– it’s happening again on a much larger scale and they’re not even pretending.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 1:11 pm
Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 1:15 pm

It would be about her penis of course!

An oxymoron.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 1, 2024 1:15 pm

“It’s almost embarrassing now to say that I worked for The Age, it’s become like a tacky tabloid.”

It took Leuning 55 years to work this out?

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 1:16 pm

I thought that too

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 1:17 pm

Bob Brown is many things but ‘communist/Marxist’ is not one of them.

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 1:18 pm

Credlin again on the people monty detests, real women and the Tickle judgement:

The Nazi also detests real men.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 1, 2024 1:21 pm

is recorded as being female on her updated Queensland birth certificate for her to be, at law, of the female sex

What’s next in Queensland, the value of pi is equal to 3 by law?

MatrixTransform
September 1, 2024 1:45 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

then 1 + 1 would equal pi (for very large values of 1)

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 1:22 pm

Monty is your typical armchair marxist- I know/have known quite a few of them. Affluent lifestyle while trying to play the hard done by proletarian.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 1, 2024 2:05 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

I’m related to two of said armchair Marxist’s – I don’t have much to say to them.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 1, 2024 4:56 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Self-proclaimed upper middle class (by marriage). A true class enemy.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 1, 2024 1:29 pm

Why seagulls don’t want your chips as much as you might think

Try using chips cooked in beef tallow. The gulls may know about the problems of seed oils.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 1, 2024 1:31 pm

So many bang on about wanting longer terms between elections. I’ll bet five years is feeling like a long time for many Britons now. Four more years felt a long time for me the day after Dandrews won the last Victorian election. Fixed terms, too.

Many push four years as better than three by pointing to the US presidential elections but that ignores the midterms for the whole House of Representatives and a good chunk of senators at two years.

I’m happy with three years to limit the extent of the damage and pleased it’s baked into our constitution.

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Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 1:36 pm

We watched all seven half-hour episodes of Baby Reindeer (Netflix recently) 

Lizzie, my mother, never known for being very diplomatic and becoming less so in her dotage, watched the first episode with me, thought it was dreadful and now refers to it as….Baby Elephant.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 3:34 pm

Did you continue on with it? We were in part appalled, in part fascinated.

I see it doesn’t create much interest here. lol. Says something.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 1, 2024 1:43 pm

Very pleasant sunny morning at the rifle range this morning. Next to no wind.
Scored 372 on two cards. (8 targets 5 rounds in each, max score 50 for total 400).
Mrs Eyrie scored 377. One card each of 192, so there’s that. Worked on the rifles and all the gear and it is working for us. Great fun.

Pogria
Pogria
September 1, 2024 2:00 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

Sounds like a great day!

Makka
Makka
September 1, 2024 1:44 pm

Just perusing the 4 volumes of my Father’s Day gift: A History of the English Speaking Peoples by Churchill. In good nick too from the UK. What a wonderful body of work – looking forward to commencing the task!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 3:35 pm
Reply to  Makka

I read it years ago. I enjoyed it then. Wonder about now.

I think I might still like its solid British ethos.

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 1:46 pm

Simply lumping Brown and Bandt together in the ‘communist POS’ bucket probably doesn’t give a complete picture of what is going on.

I will never forget Brown saying, while still in parliament –

“One world government, one person one vote, what could be fairer.”

I doubt he was that naive. He might have had a gentler personality but he was closer to Bandt than you might think.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 1:57 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Brown will be one of the first against the wall for failure to be enthusiastic about the aims of the party after the Revolution.
Bandt will be one of the firing party.

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 1:49 pm

Douglas Carswell

The EU Is Killing Europe

Makka
Makka
September 1, 2024 1:49 pm

“One world government, one person one vote, what could be fairer.”

The unsaid part – No borders.

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 1:53 pm
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 1, 2024 1:58 pm

Rejected under the HS library article. Merely stating a fact.

“Legislation regarding pronouns was the issue that Professor Jordan Peterson raised a warning about at Toronto University in 2017”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 1, 2024 1:59 pm

To his credit, Bob Brown did rail against the environmental wreckage of hydro dams and bird choppers… but there was that one time when he made a great queen of himself bawling from the parliament mezzanine at Bush Jr because he was literally an election-stealing dictator… and then gushing over the CCP Premier a week later.
So no, he’s not my favourite Earthian.

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 2:06 pm

In news just in…..

The IDF retrieved the bodies of several Israeli hostages in Gaza, including Ori Danino, Eden Yerushalmi and Hersh Goldberg-Polin, the families confirmed on Instagram Sunday morning. The IDF announced on Saturday night that they had found more bodies underground in Gaza, but did not confirm the names.

May the memory of Ori, Eden and Hersh be a blessing for eternity. May their deaths be avenged.

Pogria
Pogria
September 1, 2024 2:13 pm

This is when I do NOT believe in the Christian ethos of vengeance being Gods’.

I believe in Revenge rained on the perps until there is only enough left for a dust pan.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 1, 2024 2:33 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Don’t you think use of atomic weapons a little drastic?

Pogria
Pogria
September 1, 2024 2:36 pm

Not drastic enough.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 5:32 pm

No.
The lesson must be taught. Islam will not heed a few puny HE bombs – in fact their leaders would love to be able to point at the rubble, complete with dust free teddy bears and flowers, as further proof of the Christians ‘barbarity’ toward the innocent Muslims of the Middle East, Inshallah.

I think – according to my calculations – about fifty five 400Kt nukes on the Iranian and Afghanistan’s major population centres would be sufficient to give the Mullahs pause.
But let’s admit it, even if Israel were to drop twenty or so concrete/bacon dummy bombs, that would be enough to send the population running for the hills. It may even be enough to wake up the devout followers of Islam to get rid of their death cult leaders.
Just give them a ‘knock on the roof’ first. The 7.5 million in Tehran will roll over the regimes enforcers. We won’t even need to follow up with the real ones and if we do? It will demonstrate we mean it when we say “Enough.”

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Philby
Philby
September 1, 2024 4:32 pm
Reply to  Pogria

With extreme prejudice

Muddy
Muddy
September 1, 2024 5:46 pm

Fear.
Sometimes FEAR is the only motivator.

calli
calli
September 1, 2024 2:29 pm

I prefer the civilised, exquisite sword of justice to the primitive, blunt instrument of revenge.

As we’ve seen in the past, the Israelis are able to deliver the former in the most remarkable ways. Keep looking over your shoulders and under your beds, you foul and murderous scoundrels. You’ll be grassed up eventually.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 1, 2024 3:01 pm
Reply to  calli

Operation “Wrath of God” showed the way!

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
September 1, 2024 2:44 pm

Vic health minister announces an expansion of abortion availability. On Fathers Day. Yassss queen, you go girl.

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 2:47 pm

Hersh Goldberg-Polin

Just a week ago Hersh’s parents spoke at the DNC. Hersh’s life was taken from him by Gazan Nazis, the same Nazis many in the DNC (and Oz Labor) laud.

There’s a big gaping hole in the heart of every Jew on the planet, and has been since October 7. The only comfort I can take from any of this is that the bodies of Eden, Hersh and Ori will now be treated with love and respect, and they will be given a Jewish funeral. And then their souls can be at peace.

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 2:53 pm
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 5:46 pm
Reply to  Indolent

They’re quite right – Starmer is a demented, miserable, authoritarian, Puritan bastard.
He’d suck all the joy out of our society because “It’s for your own good”.
I’ll bet he wears a cardigan at home.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 5:49 pm
Reply to  Winston Smith

You know, tomorrow I’m going to go to the IGA and buy a packet of smokes, then go to the pub and sit in the “Smokers Gulag” and give one to someone to smoke for me.
(Not going to smoke it myself, it took too much in the withdrawal phase to stop.)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 1, 2024 3:02 pm

‘Extreme’ amount taxpayers spent on didgeridoo performance to open a promotional event for Summer of Cricket

  • The Australian Consulate in Chennai hosted a cricket event
  • It featured a $20,000 didgeridoo performance

Daily Mail.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 1, 2024 3:16 pm

Happy Father’s Day to all fathers.

Rosie
Rosie
September 1, 2024 3:18 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 3:37 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Terrible. These murderers must pay for this in their own blood.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 1, 2024 5:02 pm
Reply to  Rosie

To borrow from leftards in 2017, ‘The walls are closing in.’

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 5:54 pm
Reply to  Rosie

ZK2A:
The hostages were murdered a few days ago.
No, nuking them is letting them off lightly.

Arky
September 1, 2024 3:38 pm

Progressivism is really a freedom movement.
It has freed the ruling classes from even having to pretend to like the peasants.
After all, the peasants are racist, sexist and transphobic.
Also dirty and smelly.

2dogs
September 1, 2024 3:47 pm

I can’t fault the court in the Tickle v Giggle case. It is applying the law as it is written.

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 3:49 pm

Update……
May the memory of Ori, Eden, Hersh, Carmel, Alexander and Almog be a blessing for their families, Israel, and Jews across the world.

May the deaths of Ori, Eden, Hersh, Carmel, Alexander and Almog be AVENGED.

This morning, talking to a group of Jews, we all acknowledged one thing…….we Jews survive.

Am Yisrael Chai.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
September 1, 2024 4:50 pm

I’m sure there are plenty of terrorists in Israeli jails. For every Israeli killed on October the 7th and since, reciprocate.

Vagabond
Vagabond
September 1, 2024 3:57 pm

“It’s almost embarrassing now to say that I worked for The Age, it’s become like a tacky tabloid.”

I have no sympathy for Leunig. He had no problems producing offensive, vicious, snide, envy and racism driven cartoons for Spencer Street Sturmer for many years although I’ll admit some were pretty funny. He complains about not being allowed to draw cartoons about Gaza but we can have no doubt about what side he would have taken. If he had any real moral principles he would have resigned years ago.

In a similar vein I have no sympathy for Michael Gawenda who had a lot to do with transforming the Age into the leftist cesspool it is today. He’s now writhing with guilt and trying to redeem himself but he was a class traitor and has done us all (except for the likes of certain person who infest this blog) a disservice.

Arky
September 1, 2024 3:58 pm

Has anyone studied the role of advertisers in social media censorship?
Large chunks of news and culture only has reach because large companies have advertising dollars to spend.
We hear that advertising is withdrawn from certain kinds of content because of advertisers.
Is this the retailers themselves, or is it the advertising industry that applies that pressure to social media companies? Or a bit of both?

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Tom
Tom
September 1, 2024 6:00 pm
Reply to  Arky

Arky, my assessment is that it’s the advertising staff driving the politicisation of advertisers.

My observation of their output is that advertising “creatives”, who are mostly in their 20s, are 99.9% Greens voters — that is, the ratbag left that, for example, currently supports the mass importation of Hamas terrorists from Gaza, such is their hatred of Australian culture and the free market.

That is, 99.9% of Australian advertising creatives are twentysomething Phillip Adams wannabes, among whom political radicalism is extremely popular and has no downside.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 4:01 pm

I will never forget Brown saying, while still in parliament –
“One world government, one person one vote, what could be fairer.”

I think some here are way too kind to the old turd. I remember too when he announced he was going to bring down the Fraser gubmint.

Last edited 4 months ago by Miltonf
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 5:56 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Miltonf, I have no problem with bringing down the Fraser government. Where the plan went wrong is that it got replaced.

KevinM
KevinM
September 1, 2024 4:05 pm

Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 11:31 am

About VPNs

Ok it looks like Proton is ahead by a bit.

Does this have any interaction problems with Telstra Broadband?

It supposedly will list my location in Switzerland, but I can change it to anywhere, yes?

I use Proton and it works with all network.
I also have Cyber-ghost Proton has more servers by a far margin.

Do they put any unremovable cookies on my computers? And is this a problem?

First, every cookie is removable, second as far as I know they don’t use cookies at all.
What would be the point for a VPN to do that?

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:01 pm
Reply to  KevinM

I’ve no idea. I’m a software illiterate. Most software stuff doesn’t make much sense to me.
I have to really apply myself just to get email working.

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 4:06 pm

Appears they were shot just a few days ago.

Yep, murdered a few days ago.

And Cats, we’re bringing in 3000 of these murderers.

Arky
September 1, 2024 4:08 pm

I just watched an ad for Westpac.
It featured a group led by some fat young Chinese guy strutting along to some music or other noise with I think a voiceover saying stuff.
I have zero idea what service was being advertised and only know it was for Westpac because it ended in their logo.
I’m not sure advertising companies are the ones we should be relying on to decide which topics are valid to be covered in the media, and which are forbidden. They seem slightly retarded.

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 4:25 pm

Roger

September 1, 2024 11:01 am

I’ve never thought that Brown was harmless.

Nobody said he was harmless.

He just wasn’t a Communist.

Two instances of his extreme leftism.

   Brown played a key role in pressuring the lying slapper to have a royal commission in an attempt to restrict speech. Though it didn’t accomplish much, it did open the Overton window for speech restrictions. Australia was perhaps the first taxi to leave the rank. I watched Brown in an interview suggesting the Australian newspaper was breaking the bounds of speech decency by posting opinion pieces on the first page instead of what he believed to be news.

   Brown proposed putting all goods and services through a committee review process prior to being presented for approval. Reducing CO2 was the objective.

Maybe the guy was a Fabian socialist rather than a staunch Stalinist. But we’re debating is the huge difference between the colors red, and (his case) hot pink.

What policies would Brown disagree with that the present Greens Nazi party supports, or Bandt says?

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Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 4:30 pm

A lot of bank propaganda if not all seems to feature all forms of humanity except white guys. Certainly noticed that when I used a Comm Bank ATM yesterday (I don’t bank with them, I just get free withdrawals from big 4 ATMs).

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 4:32 pm

Just to highlight one important aspect of Brown’s philosophy.
The most basic of all rights is the right to free expression. Nothing else about human rights is feasible without free expression.
When it comes down to it, the authoritarian home is where you belong if you’re against free speech. And as someone once described it at the old Cat. Different rooms, but the same house.

Arky
September 1, 2024 5:32 pm
Reply to  JC

You don’t have any rights.
Haven’t you been paying attention the last few years?
The left only banged on about rights for as long as they could undermine traditions, courts and laws by bogging everyone down in lawfare.
Rights only exist if someone enforces them.
If you don’t have the political power to enforce your rights, you have none.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 4:33 pm

Brown actually announced he was going to bring down Fraser because Fraser was going to let Tasmania decide whether or not to build the Franklin dam.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 4:40 pm

A sickening, hysterical chapter in our history. All ALP, Meja, Tasmanian Wilderness Society driven.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 4:45 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

The irony is that stopping the dam prolonged the life of brown coal in eastern VIC.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 4:43 pm

But we’re debating is the huge difference between the colors red, and (his case) hot pink.

Bandt is a Marxist. It goes to how he diagnoses the world’s problems and solutions (see above re Mises on the progressive agenda).

Brown was a useful idiot conservationist who only ever diagnosed a patient.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 1, 2024 4:52 pm

That bloke at the end has serious skills. He was 2 seconds ahead of retaliation. WACK!

Kudos also to the female at the Waffle House. When the ape dropped, she went bang with the fists.

——

Steve Inman:

Non-Essential Fighting Compilation
https://rumble.com/v5csu7f-non-essential-fighting-compilation.html?e9s=rel_v2_pr

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 1, 2024 4:53 pm

H/T Michael Smith.

Doubtful John said…
Q: Have you heard about McDonald’s new Albanese Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 4:54 pm

The most basic of all rights is the right to free expression. Nothing else about human rights is feasible without free expression.

If we’re ranking them I’d suggest life, liberty and security of person morally and logically precede freedom of expression. They are necessary conditions for freedom of expression.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:11 pm
Reply to  Roger

Roger, the right bear arms in self defence trumps them all.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 1, 2024 4:56 pm

Arky the Diageo company is apparently ringleader of a bloc of digital advertizers who throw their weight around alphabet-meta. Apparently pivotal in crippling Parler too.

Arky
September 1, 2024 5:25 pm
Reply to  Wally Dali

In favour of woke, of course.

Cassie of Sydney
September 1, 2024 5:01 pm

Nothing else about human rights is feasible without free expression.

Liberty quote.

If there is no free speech there is no freedom of thought, there is no freedom of religion, there is no individual liberty, there is no free market and there is no freedom of association.

Free speech is the foundation of all of this.

Remember what that goon of a PM, Scott Morrison, once said of free speech…..

‘It doesn’t create one job’

Except it does, and he lost his job because he refused to stand up for basic Menzian principles.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:11 pm

Cassie, the right bear arms in self defence trumps them all.

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 5:05 pm

If we’re ranking them I’d suggest life, liberty and security of person morally and logically precede freedom of expression. They are necessary conditions for freedom of expression.

How are any of those even possible without free expression? It underpins all those basic rights.

Life. Without free expression our lives would be greatly hindered.

Liberty. Talk back against the state and your liberty is extinguished.

Security. How would it be possible to feel secure if free expression is restricted.

Free speech underpins all.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:12 pm
Reply to  JC

JC, the right bear arms in self defence trumps them all.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 1, 2024 5:06 pm

Try hard not to laugh.

—–

Steve Inman:

When you lie on your resume but still get the job.
https://rumble.com/v5d14s9-when-you-lie-on-your-resume-but-still-get-the-job..html?e9s=src_v1_upp

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 5:06 pm

Bandt is a Marxist. It goes to how he diagnoses the world’s problems and solutions (see above re Mises on the progressive agenda).

Brown was a useful idiot conservationist who only ever diagnosed a patient.

Would you be happy if we described Brown as a Fabian socialist then?

cohenite
September 1, 2024 5:13 pm

Lot of talk about whether Bob the poofta was a commie. It’s a meaningless line of thought. Bob the poofta was an elitist who hated average folk. He was responsible for Finkelstein because he thought average folk were too stupid and influenced by denialist propaganda about climate change:

Finkelstein, AGW and the Coalition – On Line Opinion – 24/7/2012

The labels don’t count if the effect on your life is the same; and the effect of bob the poofta’s influence would be indistinguishable from any commie.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:17 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Valid point, Cohenite.
It doesn’t matter if you get run over by a Mack or a Mann.
You’re just as dead.

Makka
Makka
September 1, 2024 5:19 pm

Except it does, and he lost his job because he refused to stand up for basic Menzian principles.

He lost his job through free speech – his own when Scummo said “I don’t hold the hose, mate”. The elitist prick showed himself then for the grub he is. And a lot of Australians were disgusted.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 5:21 pm

Life. Without free expression our lives would be greatly hindered.

Liberty. Talk back against the state and your liberty is extinguished.

Security. How would it be possible to feel secure with free expression is restricted.

Life is pre-eminent because without it freedom of expression cannot be exercised by the individual, nor any other legitimate right for that matter.

This is self-evident.

As an illustration, aborted babies never get to exercise freedom of expression, thought, association and so on; the incipient exercise of those rights was taken from them when their right to life was extinguished.

Talk back against the state and your liberty is extinguished.

In that case your liberty was extinguished at law before you exercised your right to speak against the state. Even the Soviets went to the trouble of formally enacting the legislation that enabled the courts to send people to the gulags.

Thus, liberty and respect for it logically precedes free speech and is a necessary condition for it.

How would it be possible to feel secure with free expression is restricted.

It’s the other way around – security of person means the state can’t impose arbitrary punishments that restrict your liberty, including your liberty to speak. Again, security of person is the necessary condition for the unhindered exercise of free speech.

Arky
September 1, 2024 5:40 pm
Reply to  Roger

All these rights everyone bangs on about for as long as I have been alive.
Where are they?
Where do they reside?
I’ve never seen them.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 5:47 pm
Reply to  Arky

You’ll recognise them when someone tries to take them away.

Arky
September 1, 2024 5:50 pm
Reply to  Roger

So you are saying they reside in me?
There is some property I have that generates these rights?

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 6:11 pm
Reply to  Arky

By virtue of your existence, incipiently.

But only because they exist extra nos, outside of/apart from from your existence, by virtue of natural law.

And then by virtue of positive law where it has been enacted.

Arky
September 1, 2024 6:31 pm
Reply to  Roger

Sounds like crap, in all due respect Roger.
The Lord of the manner has rights over his peasants because the King, who had the power to do so granted him those rights.
And could equally take them away.
Outside of a person or thing with the power to enforce a particular individuals rights over others, (for they are always over another’s) no such thing exists, or if it does, it does so in such an ephemeral way as to be completely meaningless.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:42 pm
Reply to  Roger

Correct, Roger:
 The right to bear arms in self defence trumps them all.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 5:25 pm

Would you be happy if we described Brown as a Fabian socialist then?

I’m not greatly exercised by Bob Brown, but since you ask I don’t think he ever enunciated a coherent socio-economic plan for Australia along the lines of Fabianism.

Bandt is a different sort of creature who is far closer to the levers power than Brown ever was.

And that’s what we should be concerned about.

Last edited 4 months ago by Roger
Muddy
Muddy
September 1, 2024 5:32 pm

Anecdote-o’clock.
I just came back from taking the faithful four-paws for a walk and a swim in the river (I’m pretty sure she has hidden pockets to collect sand for dumping inside when we get home). While standing in the shallows (tide out), largely unaware of the world around me (bliss!), a young(ish) woman sat down on the sand a short distance away. Late 30s maybe, reasonably good looking. What jumped out at me the though, was that she was quite, ummm … hirsute. The hair on both of her shoulders and her upper chest (she was wearing shorts and bikini(ish) top) made me feel a bit feminine by comparison. I said to myself: ‘Muddy, you are so disengaged from the world that this is a THING now, and you had no idea!’

Anyhoo, the dog had finished collecting mud in her armpits, and it was time to go home. We had to walk past this woman (kind of) to get back to the footpath, so as we were almost level with her, I bent down to tie up a loose shoelace and took what I hoped was a quick, sideways glance. Luckily she didn’t notice I was wearing thongs, as her head was stuck in her phone, aaaannnddd … Oh. OH! Tatts. It wasn’t body hair after all. It was inked skin, but on her chest it was so dense that it looked like hair!

I can’t be completely sure, given the brevity of my glance, but I suspect it was a complex scene of enraged citizens tearing apart by hand a politician at a polling booth on election day. There was also a sausage sizzle.

‘How creative (and practical),’ I thought, as I hitched up my four-paws and loped off home. ‘Maybe she’s a childcare worker?’

Last edited 4 months ago by Muddy
Ellie
Ellie
September 1, 2024 6:44 pm
Reply to  Muddy

Don’t you just love old judgemental types. Perve, but the perve turns into disgusting revoltion.

Paint your own world.

Muddy
Muddy
September 1, 2024 7:46 pm
Reply to  Ellie

Have you considered there might have been a degree of artistic license in the telling (pretending to tie invisible shoelaces!), and that the basis was a self-deprecation of my own short-sightedness?

No? Ah, judgemental people, huh? Paint your own world indeed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 8:10 pm
Reply to  Muddy

Ellie’s back? She doesn’t do self-deprecation, Muddy.

Yours was a lovely tale of walking the dog on a sunny arvo.

Muddy
Muddy
September 1, 2024 9:37 pm

Thanks, Lizzie.

Ellie
Ellie
September 1, 2024 8:15 pm
Reply to  Muddy

I liked your story, Muddy. I was responding in my own judgemental way.

Muddy
Muddy
September 1, 2024 9:33 pm
Reply to  Ellie

Five years ago I wouldn’t have cared what a random collection of pixels thought of me (or what I typed). Without seeking sympathy or (hopefully) sounding too weak and pathetic, life isn’t what it used to be.

To wrap up my night, I embarked on a brief nostalgia trip via YouTube. A song that has mystical and unexplainable significance to me is ‘Mayonnaise’ by the Smashing Pumpkins. A viewer comment on a recent live performance of this resonates:

Music is the time machine that takes us back. We all want to go back.

Yes and No and No and … I don’t know.
You do the best you can with what you have.

Night all, and thanks for contributing to this community.

Ellie
Ellie
September 1, 2024 9:45 pm
Reply to  Muddy

I don’t understand your reaction. The fact Delta has chimed in trumps my response.

Last edited 4 months ago by Ellie
Delta A
Delta A
September 1, 2024 9:08 pm
Reply to  Muddy

Love your story, Muddy.

Muddy
Muddy
September 1, 2024 9:36 pm
Reply to  Delta A

Thanks, Delta. I hope you and yours are as happy and healthy as the circumstances permit.

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 5:51 pm

Roger

Life is pre-eminent because without it freedom of expression cannot be exercised by the individual, nor any other legitimate right for that matter.

This is self-evident.

As an illustration, aborted babies never get to exercise freedom of expression, thought, association and so on; the incipient exercise of those rights was taken from them when their right to life was extinguished.

In that case your liberty was extinguished at law before you exercised your right to speak against the state. Even the Soviets went to the trouble of formally enacting the legislation that enabled the courts to send people to the gulags.

Thus, liberty and respect for it logically precedes free speech and is a necessary condition for it.

How would it be possible to feel secure with free expression is restricted.

It’s the other way around – security of person means the state can’t impose arbitrary punishments that restrict your liberty, including your liberty to speak. Again, security of person is the necessary condition for the unhindered exercise of free speech.

Rights are co-dependent. Sure, it’s true that “life, liberty, and security are necessary for free expression to exist, the reverse is also true. For instance, people use freedom of expression to challenge bad laws and practices that threaten life, liberty, and security.

Free speech also acts as a safe guard against state abuse because, without it, as I mentioned above, injustices would go unchallenged.

Liberty and expression can’t be separated because, without being able to express freely, liberty can’t exist. Therefore, the protection of free speech is integral to the protection of liberty.

Why is the right to free expression indispensable and the most important? It’s the tool we have that safeguards life, liberty, and security. There’s a good argument these rights are basically interconnected, but free expression plays the unique role in upholding and protecting these rights.

Lastly, there’s more than enough historical precedent to prove the point. There is enough history to show that when the right to free expression is removed, those other rights are at risk. Free speech is always the first to go,.

Muddy
Muddy
September 1, 2024 6:00 pm
Reply to  JC

I’m loving this exchange. This is one of the reasons I first loitered at SinCat.

Pogria
Pogria
September 1, 2024 6:10 pm
Reply to  Muddy

Ditto.

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 5:56 pm

Bandt is a different sort of creature who is far closer to the levers power than Brown ever was.

Correct me if I’m wrong, as I haven’t checked, but didn’t the Greens under Brown hold part of the balance of power during the Lying Slapper years? That’s far closer to the levers than where Bandt is in a relative sense.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 6:05 pm
Reply to  JC

They signed an alliance, but I’m not sure it ever functioned as intended because its legality was dubious.

Tom
Tom
September 1, 2024 6:16 pm
Reply to  JC

Correct, JC.

We’re currently at the stage in the political cycle we were at immediately before the Lying Slapper was brought down in 2010 by the two NSW “independents”.

Sh*t will get real in 2025 if the Filth and Teals hold the balance of power — that is, if the LNP fails to get a majority in the House of Reps, a Labor minority government will get even more radical than the current Albo circus and Australia will get even less than what it thought it was voting for.

Australia is still paying a terrible price for the Turnbull coup of 2015.

Roger
Roger
September 1, 2024 6:00 pm

Free speech is always the first to go,.

I’d argue that arrogating the right to life is more morally significant.

A state or a culture that approves that has set itself up as a god-like entity which will assert its sovereignty over all other rights.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:47 pm
Reply to  Roger

Roger, the right bear arms in self defence trumps them all.

Arky
September 1, 2024 6:02 pm

There are no rights.
Such a formulation is meaningless.
You could be granted “the right to life” by every government body from your local council to the United Nations, school children could be diligently indoctrinated in these rights, and countless people would still be murdered every day, killed in accidents and wars.
It’s meaningless gibble gabble.
It is the crap that people go on with to avoid the obvious: all the good things you enjoy come through the hard work and diligence of yourself and others.
You are safe from murder, to the extent that you are, because police are prepared to do their duty and keep the scumbags seperate from the citizens, and because you are smart enough to recognise dangerous situations and avoid them.

Last edited 4 months ago by Arky
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:54 pm
Reply to  Arky

Arky:

You are safe from murder, to the extent that you are, because police are prepared to do their duty and keep the scumbags seperate from the citizens,

The Police are now taking their orders from politicians who don’t agree with you. And that is why you are no longer safe in your own house.
You have lost the right to self defence. That’s the major defence against losing all your other rights gone..

Arky
September 1, 2024 7:01 pm
Reply to  Winston Smith

Exactly.
The only remedy is that you have the political power to make the politicians change their view.
Absent that, tough sh*t.

Rabz
September 1, 2024 6:07 pm

BoN

Women in our group have contacted Catriona and she’s keen to help us out

A phenomenon known as bimbyism – “But, in my back yard”?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 6:52 pm
Reply to  Rabz

Red pills are addictive. Don’t knock em! And Ms Catriona has been luminous since doing Bugs Bunny at Nine in the nineties, taking over from the equally luminous Sophie Lee.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 1, 2024 6:12 pm

 The elitist prick showed himself then for the grub he is

Also a spineless coward.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 1, 2024 6:12 pm

upward march to a utopian future, an egalitarian socialist state efficiently run by disinterested bureaucrats, intellectuals, and technocrats.

The problem is that we end up with uninterested examples of these, not disinterested ones.

And too many are actively malevolent.

Rabz
September 1, 2024 6:16 pm

a utopian future, an egalitarian socialist state efficiently run by disinterested bureaucrats, intellectuals, and technocrats

err, is there anyone here who could imagine anything worse? I certainly can, unfortunately:

a utopian future, an egalitarian socialist state efficiently run by disinterested economists … 😕

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 1, 2024 6:16 pm

Jewish man ‘discriminated’ against by Officeworks manager faces down giant’s legal team

  • Officeworks’ manager accused of refusing to serve Jewish man
  • Suing them for discrimination
  • Officeworks hired a top legal team

Daily Mail.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 1, 2024 6:44 pm

Officeworks hired a top legal team

Doubling down on antisemitism is not a good look.
GWGB.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 6:59 pm

You’d think they would have just shutup, paid out the customer and sacked the idiot employee who stepped outside her guidelines.
But nooo, they’ve doubled down.
Now, that’s arrogance and stupidity in one easily digested packet.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 1, 2024 6:16 pm

Can anyone tell me the difference between an ordinary share and a stapled security?
i.e. APA GROUP STAPLED (FULLY PAID UNITS STAPLED SECURITIES)
Thanks in advance.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 1, 2024 6:32 pm
Reply to  Vagabond

All our shares are inside a super fund in retirement phase. No tax.

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 6:19 pm

I’d argue that arrogating the right to life is more morally significant.

A state or a culture that approves that has set itself up as a god-like entity which will assert its sovereignty over all other rights.

And I totally respect where you’re coming from here. But work through what I said earlier. Let’s see this as an injustice. How would you protest against this abuse, protecting human life, without the right to free expression?

Last edited 4 months ago by JC
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 1, 2024 6:27 pm

It wasn’t body hair after all. It was inked skin
Ha! Ha! I’m stealing that Muddy, that’s too good!

Last edited 4 months ago by Wally Dalí
Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 1, 2024 6:29 pm

No “follow up questions” from Andrew Clennell to Amanda Rishworth this evening about either the Plibeserk tailings dam ban or the “divisive and dangerous” spray by Chalmers about Dutton.
There were plenty he could have come up with.
I’ll restrict myself to saying that Albo’s championing of The Voice was hardly something to bring us together, as the 60/40 vote confirmed.

calli
calli
September 1, 2024 6:50 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

I noticed that. Soft, predictable interview.

Loved the “yes or no” question that was answered with a dodgy sermon.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 1, 2024 6:31 pm

Good reform for VCAT, ban lawyers from representing complainants as NSW & Qld don’t allow this. An action I was apart of was hamstrung by the other side using a lawyer, the managers we bought the action against never fronted the tribunal and all sorts of legal chicanery was used. Then the rsole tried billing us for $75K in costs even though we won. LOL he never saw a cent of that.

So digression aside, Officeworks digs in. The anti-semitic bint still works for them and hasn’t apologised. I wish nothing but pestilence and lice on Westfarmers and Chaney. A fish rots from the head:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13801131/Jewish-man-discrimination-Officeworks.html

2dogs
September 1, 2024 6:32 pm

I will never forget Brown saying, while still in parliament –

“One world government, one person one vote, what could be fairer.”

Those who advocate for one world government should be reminded what policies it would democratically adopt: banning homosexuality, for instance.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 1, 2024 6:48 pm

At the Geraldton skate park with little bloke.
One kid just went splat, lay there for a bit so I went over with another adult to check.
Introduced myself as paramedic and could I check…
Busted collarbone clear as day, so triangular bandage and the other chap took him home ( parents a couple of km away).

Seems to be a regular thing for my time off near skate parks..

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 1, 2024 7:25 pm

Cyclists do collar bones fairly frequently. My niece did a collar bone on a self propelled scooter v car crash.

Ellie
Ellie
September 1, 2024 6:55 pm

Not a fan of apricots. An overated fruit.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 1, 2024 7:07 pm
Reply to  Ellie

Don’t let Arky hear that – he’ll go nuts.

Ellie
Ellie
September 1, 2024 7:10 pm
Reply to  Winston Smith

Thank you for taking care of Elsie. Ask RF, I rescued her.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 1, 2024 7:29 pm
Reply to  Ellie

Better stewed, poached, bottled or jam than fresh IMO. We always got roped in for picking duties on a friends hobby farm. Only a few trees but usually a weeks work.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 1, 2024 8:51 pm
Reply to  Ellie

Fresh ripe apricots are excellent.

Don’t mind dried apricots either – but best chewed with schnapps.

Rosie
Rosie
September 1, 2024 6:55 pm

“life, liberty and security of person”
Are intrinsic.
Government doesn’t grant them.
It’s good that the United States constitution recognises the intrinsic right to freedom of speech though.
In Germany you aren’t even allowed to ‘insult’ someone in public.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 1, 2024 7:03 pm
Reply to  Rosie
Last edited 4 months ago by Nelson_Kidd-Players
Rabz
September 1, 2024 6:56 pm

Wow – I never even knew that Belew toured with Bowie as the guitarist in residence in ’78-’79 – Heroes.

Featuring Carlos Alamar as well.

bons
bons
September 1, 2024 6:57 pm

Clennel is a genuine creep. That’s not news, we all know that.

But he excelled himself today tongue bathing Amanda Richworth for endless torturous minutes over Labor’s pre-election social security bribe before switching to Sarah Henderson with – “well this is a real threat to you isn’t it”?

Even CNN wouldn’t take the clown on.

Crossie
Crossie
September 1, 2024 8:51 pm
Reply to  bons

Clennell is another one of the thin-lipped brigade.

Arky
September 1, 2024 6:58 pm

I think what libertarians think of as rights is actually limitations on governments in regards to legislating individuals.
But what leftists see as rights is the unrestricted actions of individuals. Entitlements.
What conservatives see as rights is the rules, conventions and responsibilities that exist between the governed and governing.
These things might have a level of overlap, but are actually coming from three completely different directions.

Last edited 4 months ago by Arky
Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 1, 2024 7:04 pm
Reply to  Arky

Leftist rights become societal obligations.

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 7:04 pm

Ellie

September 1, 2024 6:55 pm

Not a fan of apricots. An overated fruit.

Try home grown ones and see if you come to the same conclusion.

bons
bons
September 1, 2024 7:09 pm
Reply to  JC

Stewed apricots. Stewed apricots. Stewed apricots.

Only another two months. Can’t wait.

Ellie
Ellie
September 1, 2024 7:13 pm
Reply to  JC

Fair challenge.

Ellie
Ellie
September 1, 2024 7:22 pm
Reply to  JC

It’s like with tomatoes. They’ve done something to them that makes them taste bland. Or maybe its since having covid three times, my taste is impacted. I blame that. But the only great tasting tomatoes I purchase are from the farmers market at Kings Cross.

Beertruk
September 1, 2024 7:29 pm
Reply to  Ellie

With tomatoes, I leave them out on the bench for a few days to ripen up.
I should have a go at growing my own one day.

Ellie
Ellie
September 1, 2024 7:42 pm
Reply to  Beertruk

Yep. Ripened on the bench does something to the acidity, I think.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 1, 2024 7:59 pm
Reply to  Ellie

A lot of the summer fruit is hybridised to within an inch of its life. It is quite possible when you go back to the markets in a couple of weeks you are buying a completely different line of trees. Even farmers markets are a bit of a lottery.

vr
vr
September 1, 2024 7:49 pm
Reply to  JC

Prefer the jam to the fruit.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 1, 2024 7:12 pm

Yummy stuff on the menu.

—–

B2B Adventures:

NEVER SEEN SO MANY LOBSTERS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyXJNhIvzSc

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 1, 2024 7:27 pm

Was just reading the Letter from the VIC Minister of Equality posted over at Michael Smith. It is about the Census sexuality issue and asking that it be included.
In 2nd last para she makes a reference to “we” being counted.
VIC residents probably aware but turns out the Minister pushing the library pro noun issue is herself a lesbian. Might explain why zero input from non LGBTQ+.

Arky
September 1, 2024 7:36 pm

…and Christians see rights as the generalisation to earthly rules of God’s divine love.
So that’s four different ways that people think of when anyone mentions “rights”.
So, given the flexibility, ephemeral nature and general worthlessness of the concept and the fact that every totalitarian shithole includes them in their constitution, maybe it’s time to reevaluate the worth of the entire idea.

calli
calli
September 1, 2024 7:45 pm

Gee Joe Hildebrand likes the sound of his own voice.

And he gets to yap aimlessly every single night on Sky. He has no new points to add, simply reinterprets the original comments of others. And then talks over them.

Could they punt him for just one night? Pretty please?

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 7:47 pm

Vote with your wallet and cancel your sub. Why pay to be lectured and insulted? You can have that here free of charge!

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 7:48 pm

Beyond me why people here put up with Sky.

calli
calli
September 1, 2024 7:49 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Milton, I’m regional. I get Sky FTA. 😀

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 7:53 pm
Reply to  calli

Fair enough Calli :)- it just sound obnoxious from what I read here

Crossie
Crossie
September 1, 2024 9:00 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Beyond me why people here put up with Sky.

Because all the other Australian channels are far worse.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 1, 2024 9:12 pm
Reply to  Crossie

Give up TV altogether- glad I have

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 2, 2024 7:56 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Sky at Night is good. Sky daytime is at times infuriating, but we don’t have much of any quality to turn to elsewhere. I record Fox News daily (The Five, Laura, Jesse, Hannity, Gutfeld) to make sure I have other sources, ones that don’t automatically regurgitate the USA MSM like the latest Trump At Cemetary Hoax.

JC
JC
September 1, 2024 7:51 pm

Unfckingreal

Shaun Maguire

Dana Bash who just interviewed Harris and Walz… …turns out her ex-husband is Jeremy Bash, who was one of the 51 Intel officials who signed the letter claiming Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian disinfo This letter was posted two weeks before the 2020 election (and a lie)

Crossie
Crossie
September 1, 2024 9:01 pm
Reply to  JC

Who says aristocracy doesn’t exist in the US?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 1, 2024 7:51 pm

Pay the bill to fix it!

—-

Sail Training Ship Leeuwin Struck by Maersk Shekou in the Port of Fremantle, August 30, 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbWjvWRDrYI

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 1, 2024 8:29 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dvjKsI20pM

Top 10 most stupid Darwin Award winners!

vr
vr
September 1, 2024 8:44 pm

A warm evening calls for some cool jazz.

Here is Jane Monheit singing My Foolish Heart.

Last edited 4 months ago by vr
MatrixTransform
September 1, 2024 8:52 pm

there are no ‘rights’

they are nothing but social artifacts

power is everything

be warned

… as if history taught you nothing

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 1, 2024 9:12 pm

JC,
“Unfckingreal” dude divorced Dana Bash 17 years ago and has three kids with his 2nd wife.
However as one of the 51 Intelligence signatories to the laptop letter BS he does qualify as a total ahole.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 1, 2024 9:27 pm

Love how an apricot post immediately followed Arky’s one. A reminder of times past. Our trees are now the scene of an annual battle between us and the tag team of rainbow lorikeets and fruit bats. The critters seem to have the edge.

Ellie
Ellie
September 1, 2024 10:07 pm

You made me smile.

Arky
September 1, 2024 9:53 pm

Dickhead Joe Biden:
”Those responsible will pay for their crimes”.
As well as:
”We will work around the clock to negotiate”.
I’m sure those responsible are terrified of being negotiated with, you complete and supreme moron.

duncanm
duncanm
September 1, 2024 10:24 pm

Musk is going scorched earth on Alexandre de Moraes.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1830062141744853281

https://x.com/AlexandreFiles

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 10:26 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 10:29 pm

@iluminatibot

?Medical officer reveals Covid Vaccine related HEART ISSUES skyrocketing in active duty Naval officers.

Myocarditis rises 151%

Pulmonary heart disease up 62%

Ischemic heart disease up 69%

Heart Failure increased a whopping 973%

Indolent
Indolent
September 1, 2024 10:31 pm
JC
JC
September 1, 2024 10:40 pm

Good news

Ian Miles Cheong

@stillgray

TAKES THE CROWN AS BBC FADES ? stands tall while the once untouchable BBC might just be signing its own extinction warrant. With half a million households every year saying “no more” to their TV licenses, it’s clear where the power has shifted. The so-called beacon of broadcasting, the BBC, now scrambles for survival, contemplating desperate mergers as its audience flocks to where the real conversations happen—on platforms like ?. Here, where every post can challenge the narrative, where real-time information reigns supreme, ? isn’t just a platform; it’s the new vanguard of media. While the BBC grapples with its identity and financial turmoil, ? users enjoy the unfiltered, the real, the now. The decline of legacy media like the BBC, mired in controversies and fake narratives for too long, isn’t just inevitable; it’s a testament to the rise of ?, where the community notes feature ensures misinformation gets called out, not called news. ? isn’t just leading; it’s redefining the media landscape, proving that the future of information isn’t in the hands of the few, but the voice of the many.

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 1, 2024 10:42 pm

If I were there in person, I would not hesitate to tell those people to stop playing that atrocious “music”

Piss off!

—-

Cash:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane meeting new people in Santa Monica 128

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3dDM-vEmZ4

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 11:07 pm

Muddy, after walking his dog.

“Five years ago I wouldn’t have cared what a random collection of pixels thought of me (or what I typed). Without seeking sympathy or (hopefully) sounding too weak and pathetic, life isn’t what it used to be”

When life gets tougher, older and sader, Muddy, then of course it matters. I’ve broken my heart here at some responses so much that the scars can now deflect any slings and arrows. One simply concludes that here, or elsewhere, outrageous fortune is always going to be outrageous. Happily leavened though by the true reality that goodwill still exists on this site.

My sister, 18 months older than me, was last week given between three and six months to live due to rampaging mesolethioma. We used to jump around busting up fibro on building sites a lot as kids when there wasn’t much else to do and she’s also been a keen renovator of asbestos-ridden Sydney housing in the 70’s and 80’s. In the depths of night, on the new mattress, with Hairy sleeping soundly beside me, i steel myself to lose her, inconceivable as it is, and review my own mortality, as one does.

Good luck to you, Muddy. May you continue to share here those momentary epiphanies with that muddle of a dog, and other daily doings. They’re the stuff of life. Don’t ever get beyond sharing it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 1, 2024 11:12 pm

Too upset even thinking it to type it straight: mesothelioma.

MatrixTransform
September 1, 2024 11:45 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

“stop killing me”, he exclaimed emphatically

Ellie
Ellie
September 3, 2024 8:52 pm

The f@cks are killing Qudrant! Bill Leak all over again.

Ellie
Ellie
September 3, 2024 8:53 pm
Reply to  Ellie

Typos

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