Open Thread – Thurs 19 Sept 2024


Orchard in Bloom, Claude Monet, 1879

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Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 6:47 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 19, 2024 6:49 pm

Are you joiNing the DOTs yet Sheeple?
Well are you?

The Tartarian Liberation front will not be denied!
From our secret underground lairs we share with the red shoes/lizard people we will take back whats rightfully ours!

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 6:50 pm
mem
mem
September 19, 2024 7:08 pm

Has anyone identified the actual neonayzees who staged that show?

I reckon an enterprising journalist or maybe a lawyer representing MD should put out one of those old fashioned wanted ads, ” Reward for Identifying any of the people in this Photograph” with the incentive of $$$s. I’d be happy to contribute to crowd fund it.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 7:08 pm

What would Payman be saying if dad had stayed in Afghanistan?
https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1836643101609464285?t=Q6DW_ZYXNzk0Ocb5xB54RQ&s=19

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 7:09 pm

Rosie
 September 19, 2024 5:42 am

“This morning, Hezbollah switched their comms from pagers to walkies and then launched dozens of rockets at Israeli civilians.

I see exploding carrier pigeons in their future.
This is a covert operation of epic proportions in it’s planning, technical expertise and execution.
Daylight second.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 7:11 pm

For the first time I have got a new phone without the charger specification changing in the meantime. Possibly coz the battery died so quickly this time.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 19, 2024 7:15 pm

Pulp Fiction news (the Tele):

A batch of killer cocaine has been linked to the deaths of a well known social media personality and a 43-year-old woman, with health authorities warning Sydneysiders of drugs being cut with heroin and other deadly opioids.

Dunka Raymond Caldwell – known on TikTok and Instagram as ‘Humdinger’ – and Angel Mounce-Stephens, who also goes by the name Angela Yazgan, both died on August 30, after overdosing on heroin they believed to be cocaine.

A Mia Wallace moment.

Dot would get this.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 7:31 pm
Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 7:41 pm

Credlin is evidently a right leaning feminist.
That doesn’t necessarily make her a conservative.
Has she ever articulated her political philosophy?

I’m a ‘right leaning feminist’ and a conservative. I think Credlin is the same. Whilst we might disagree on some things, I think most women here on this blog are like me. I don’t think early feminism was such a bad thing. I am the daughter of a very opinionated and strong willed woman who was a founding member of Women’s Electoral Lobby. My mother taught her daughters to be tough but I’m not as tough as my mother because I didn’t drink the water she drank when she was growing up, I really think there was something quite unique in the water of this country from federation to the late 1950s that produced extraordinary women, such as my mother, my grandmothers, my aunts and grand-aunts. They were not shrinking violets.

Credlin is strong on most issues, I rarely disagree with her.

132andBush
132andBush
September 19, 2024 7:45 pm

Ya get the logic, guilt by association, however tenuous, and this is what has been done to Moira Deeming, Ange Jones, Kath Deves and Kellie-Jay Keen. They all attended a rally in Melbourne, some Grampian Nazis turned up uninvited and bingo, they’re now Nazis too!?

It’s well known that rockspiders like to watch kids play sport.

Anyone professing to watch kids play soccer can be deemed a rockspider.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2024 7:53 pm

The Mocker at his finest. Worth cutting out and giving to those described!

THE MOCKER
It ain’t easy being Green — but a strong dose of idiocy helps
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The Mocker

Standing in solidarity with Land Forces Expo protesters in Melbourne last week, Greens senator David Shoebridge masterfully executed an act of Orwellian doublethink while maintaining a straight face. The “core tenets” of his party, he insisted, are “peace and non-violence”.

Could I add a third to that list, David, that being “taking the piss”? The so-called anti-war and pro-Palestinian protesters he defended likewise follow the Greens’ version of peace and non-violence. Rioters spat on police, sprayed acid in their direction, and pelted them with rocks, canned food, and manure. They even attacked police horses.

Twenty-seven officers were injured. So who did Shoebridge condemn? Why, the Victoria Police, of course, accusing them of “extreme violence”. My first thought upon hearing that was to hope he would take the form of a police horse in his next reincarnation. But I immediately dismissed that, given remarks like his prove Shoebridge would not have the requisite intelligence.

Speaking of intelligence, what does it say about those who vote for the Greens? I am not talking about young, impetuous adults. All of us did stupid things in our youth. But what does it say of a middle-aged person who votes for them? Let’s consider a typical case.

You live in the inner-city suburbs of East Melbourne or Sydney’s Inner West. Your partner, Julian, is a high-level public servant, and you are a senior academic responsible for developing new study programs in sociology.

Your vision of an egalitarian society is one in which “the rich pay their fair share”. You purport to speak for “the working class” but the only dealings you have with blue-collar workers is when you need a tradie. You maintain the system is rigged to favour big companies, but you conveniently ignore that Australian businesses have the second-highest corporate tax rate in the developed world.

As with many of your fellow socialists, your financial portfolio is looking a peach. Although you own three investment properties, you write letters to the newspaper demanding the abolition of negative gearing – provided of course that comes with a grandfather clause.

Thanks to your partner’s connections, you have a gun North Sydney accountant. In return for mates rates, he looks after your financial affairs, meaning you have not had to pay net tax for the last few years. And when you retire, you will receive a very tidy pension. That 17 per cent employer superannuation contribution is just one of the many perks of academia.

You went to a private school, but, as you tell your friends, you decided against sending your children to one for their secondary education, because they foster “elitism” and lack “diversity”. You omit telling them you were holding out on that decision until you received confirmation they had been accepted into a state selective school.

You regard with disdain mainstream Australia. September and October feature the worst in plebeian vulgarity, with all those shouty footy fans spoiling your tranquillity. “Bread and circuses,” you tell your circle, thinking your analogy both insightful and original.

You take yourself so seriously you are almost devoid of humour. When you suggested to one of the parents at the local tennis club that it should acknowledge it was on unceded lands, he responded that it had grass courts. You still cannot work out if he was being serious or not.

You try to avoid catch-ups with extended family, for they do not share your tolerant and worldly views, as you repeatedly stress to understanding friends. Your sister Kate is a happy stay-at-home mum, and she rolls her eyes when you explain to her that she lives an “unfulfilled” life. You have not forgiven her husband, Gary, for laughing uproariously last Christmas lunch when Julian proudly spoke of being a “male ally in the roadmap to gender equality”.

That reaction was annoying enough, but what really grates is that Gary is a self-made man. Although you would never admit it, you think it unfair that someone who never went to university has more assets than you do. Also, why would someone wealthy choose to live in the outer suburbs?

As a feminist, you deplore the treatment of women politicians, although you are remarkably selective in your outrage. You claim conservative politics is replete with misogyny. Yet when former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher died, you entertained your colleagues at morning tea the next day by cracking the bubbly and singing ‘The Witch is Dead’.

As an academic, you take pride in your intellectual superiority, but in reality you are incapable of entertaining an opposing view. You become flustered and defensive when you do not control the debate or the setting. At your high school reunion last year, you were shocked to hear women at your table say they would be voting No in the upcoming voice referendum. So distraught were you that you left the event early and had to pop an extra Valium to go to sleep.

Saving the planet, or rather showing others you are saving the planet, is your number one concern. You have just booked your second overseas holiday for this year and are a platinum jetsetter who would never settle for anything less than business class, but that’s okay because you purchase a carbon offset with every trip. You own an electric vehicle and cannot understand why all Australians do not follow suit. Range anxiety is nonsense you say. After all, the furthest you drive is to the airport or to your coastal retreat.

You are vocal about the need to learn from history, otherwise known as disproportionately focusing on the sins of conservative white men. But you would bristle if someone pointed out that the left were the loudest proponents of the White Australia policy, or if one of your students called out Bruce Pascoe’s ‘Dark Emu’ for its farcical conclusions.

Being progressive, you hold that your ideology is one of altruism. You consider the justification for your party’s policies to be self-evident. Accordingly, those who oppose them are either wicked or ignorant. But you have no idea, for example, that progressives were at the forefront of social Darwinism and the eugenics movement during the early twentieth century.

“But the progressives of today have nothing in common with those of that era,” you would reply. Think again. They were convinced of the righteousness of their cause. Their philosophy incorporated the racism of low expectations. And they believed in big government and the intervention of the state to further their ideology.

Your reaction to the October 7 attacks is telling. You acknowledge for the sake of appearances that Hamas murdered Israeli men, women, and children, yet you qualify that by saying “Look, I’m not condoning what happened, but”.

You are not anti-Semitic, you keep telling yourself. In other words, you think the Zionists are fair game. But you have not stopped screeching since learning yesterday Israel had taken out Hezbollah terrorists with exploding pagers.

And finally, you believe you will realise a social utopia in your lifetime. Unlike so many other far-left movements in the last hundred or so years, you are confident yours will not culminate in the mass expropriation of property, a collapse of the economy, and an authoritarian state.

Even if the unthinkable happened and it did, you would be able to prove you have long been on the right side of history, thus meaning they would never come for you. Right?

Oz

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 8:11 pm

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/breaking-20-supporters-seated-behind-trump-onstage-rushed/

BREAKING: Reports Indicate There May Have Been A Third Attempt On Trump’s Life

Approximately 20 patriots who attended Trump’s high-energy rally in Tucson are now reporting having to go to the ER immediately after the rally.

The attendees all suffered from symptoms like… pic.twitter.com/QIBfC2wjsR

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 8:34 pm

“How Israel Built a Modern-Day Trojan Horse: Exploding Pagers
The Israeli government did not tamper with the Hezbollah devices that exploded, defense and intelligence officials say. It manufactured them as part of an elaborate ruse.
The pagers began beeping just after 3:30 in the afternoon in Lebanon on Tuesday, alerting Hezbollah operatives to a message from their leadership in a chorus of chimes, melodies, and buzzes.

But it wasn’t the militants’ leaders. The pages had been sent by Hezbollah’s archenemy, and within seconds the alerts were followed by the sounds of explosions and cries of pain and panic in streets, shops and homes across Lebanon.

Powered by just a few ounces of an explosive compound concealed within the devices, the blasts sent grown men flying off motorcycles and slamming into walls, according to witnesses and video footage.
More at link might be paywalled.
The more Nasrallah panicked about mobile phones the more Hezbollah invested in Israeli technology.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/middleeast/israel-exploding-pagers-hezbollah.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 9:00 pm

Credlin is strong on most issues, I rarely disagree with her.

OK, but is she merely reacting to what’s out there by instinct or does she have a clearly thought through, articulated philosophical base from which she does so.

There’s nothing necessarily wrong with instincts, but without philosophical ballast they can easily be tossed here and there by the challenges of post-modern & post-liberal realities.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 9:05 pm

Dipping into Anthony Beevor’s account of the Battle for Arnhem. Health waning.

“The occupation of the Netherlands was probably the most brutal of all those in Western Europe.

In certain secret places the brutality was far worse Generalleutanant Walter Dornberger, the Inspector of Lon-Range Rocket Troops was later recorded secretly in a British prisoner of war camp, speaking of the activities of his colleague SS – Standartenfuhrer Behr.”In the Netherlands he made Dutchmen build the sites for the V2 ” Dornberger told fellow officers “then he had them herded together and killed by machine gun fire. He opened brothels for his soldiers with twenty Dutch girls. When the girls had been there two weeks, they were shot, and new ones brought along, so they couldn’t divulge anything they might discover from the soldiers.” Page 22.

Story goes that a German ex – serviceman’s association applied for permission to lay a wreath, in memory of their fallen comrades, at the memorial to the battle in the town of Arnhem itself. Permission denied, so they laid the wreath, anyway.

With some ceremony, the wreath was thrown into the Rhine…

John H.
John H.
September 19, 2024 9:28 pm

Cassie of Sydney

 September 19, 2024 7:41 pm

Credlin is evidently a right leaning feminist.

That doesn’t necessarily make her a conservative.

Has she ever articulated her political philosophy?

I’m a ‘right leaning feminist’ and a conservative. I think Credlin is the same. Whilst we might disagree on some things, I think most women here on this blog are like me. I don’t think early feminism was such a bad thing. I am the daughter of a very opinionated and strong willed woman who was a founding member of Women’s Electoral Lobby. My mother taught her daughters to be tough but I’m not as tough as my mother because I didn’t drink the water she drank when she was growing up, I really think there was something quite unique in the water of this country from federation to the late 1950s that produced extraordinary women, such as my mother, my grandmothers, my aunts and grand-aunts. They were not shrinking violets.

The change had to happen. My sister left academia to start a company in a completely different field. She experienced discrimination because women aren’t smart or tough enough to start a business. Her business won consecutive national awards in the category. There was so much winning the following year they went for something completely novel and still came third. She retired young but to this day is still sought out for advice.

Feminism eventually demonstrated irrational positions but initially it opened the door for millions of women to exercise greater freedom. Expecting political purity in this age of diverse opinions and beliefs is irrational. The population now is not like in the 50’s. Voting patterns reveal a widespread discontent with historical positions adopted by political parties. It is going to be a rough ride with many weird ideas being produced. I’d like to think people are searching for a new political philosophy but in these days the voting pattern mostly comes down to Dostoevsky: let me have my tea and the world can go to hell. Dangerous times.

JC
JC
September 19, 2024 9:39 pm

MSNBC watchers are perfectly normal functioning human beings.

Reason given why Putin would be scared shitless of Kamaltoe.

No really.

MSNBC guest says Putin will be deterred by Kamala Harris because she’s the product of a mixed marriage

MSNBC Host: “Wow.”

Don’t believe me.. then watch the vid.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 19, 2024 9:50 pm

This is another excellent channel from Azerbaijan. The other being Wilderness Cooking. No narration, just the sounds of nature and farm life combined withe stunning scenery and excellent videography.

It’s worth your time. Babuska always works like and machine.

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Country Life Vlog:

In today’s video, we’re making a delicious and tangy treat — Stuffed Pickled Green Tomatoes! This unique recipe combines the fresh crunch of green tomatoes with a flavorful stuffing of herbs and spices, all preserved in a brine that brings out their zesty goodness. It’s a year-round delight that adds a burst of flavor to any meal.

Watch as we carefully prepare the green tomatoes, stuff them with a savory mixture, and then pickle them using a traditional method that ensures they stay crisp and tasty for months. This is a perfect way to enjoy the garden’s bounty throughout the year and a wonderful addition to your winter pantry. Whether served as a side dish, appetizer, or snack, these stuffed pickled tomatoes are sure to impress!

Stuffed Pickled Green Tomatoes: A Year-Round Delight

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 9:51 pm

From the Anthony Beevor title on the Battle for Arnhem

General Lewis Brereton, commander of First Allied Airborne Army, a “small, difficult man” was such a compulsive womanizer that his activities provoked a severe rebuke from General George C. Marshall, the American chief of staff and a man of the strictest moral rectitude.”

That would have been an “Officer’s Annual Evaluation Report” worth reading….

“General Brereton is advised to spend more time leading his men, and less time trying to get his willy wet…”

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 9:56 pm

The Mocker at his finest. Worth cutting out and giving to those described!

Yep Top Ender. Cut/Pasted/Saved and shared. Best ever from the Mocker.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 19, 2024 10:07 pm

Audience Members Leave Rally as Trump Gives Incoherent Answers on Manufacturing, Food: A Closer LookLate Night with Seth Meyers

When asked what the main threat to Michigan manufacturing jobs was, he said it was nuclear weapons.

Just reporting this out of a concern for balance. 🙂

John H.
John H.
September 19, 2024 10:33 pm

Attempts to explain this phenomenon typically focus on national policy issues. I don’t understand why so many countries are experiencing this problem. One possible explanation is that modern life presents so many lifestyle choices having children is no longer the only choice approved by the culture.

Russia is encouraging millions to have sex at work to address rapidly tumbling birthrate | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 10:54 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 10:59 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:00 pm

@BreannaMorello

I lost my job at Fox Corp because of the ILLEGAL NYC private sector vaccine mandate.

When I told Fox’s HR this mandate was ILLEGAL and poorly written–they told me they were going to comply anyways.

Here’s the guy behind the mandate saying he was having drug-fueled orgies while locking down the rest of the city.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:03 pm

@TheRabbitHole84

“Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party.”

— O’Brien (1984 by George Orwell)

Misinformation experts largely lean in a single direction politically. This skew can, will, and does impact which information is deemed legitimate or not.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:13 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:15 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:16 pm
Frank
Frank
September 19, 2024 11:24 pm

What happened to dot? I was away for a few weeks and he disappeared.

KevinM
KevinM
September 20, 2024 12:39 am

dover0beach
September 19, 2024 11:53 pm

Israel didn’t tamper with Hezbollah’s exploding pagers, it made them – New York Times

Lots of bullshit stories being put out at the moment about this incident. I wouldn’t believe any of it.

Exactly, I’ve read that link to see what’s behind it, utter rubbish about the Hungarian manufacturer. Besides nobody ever heard of any such factory.

You don’t set up a sophisticated manufacturing facility to make a few thousand units when you have no chance of competing with China, Japan Taiwan etc.

I give my 2 cents worth of opinion, I’d rather tip China, there must be a few corrupt businessmen there, or Israel simply replacing the batteries and a small additional circuit. simple and elegant.

The hardest bit is to make Hetzbolloks to buy them in preference to other brands.

  1. dover0beach September 19, 2024 11:53 pm Israel didn’t tamper with Hezbollah’s exploding pagers, it made them – New York Times…

  2. Holland also produced a substantial number of volunteers for the SS. I had a workmate who told me his Grandfather…

  3. This was a cyber attack similar to the Stuxnet worm that crippled Iran’s nuclear facilities a decade or so ago.…

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